Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: pay or tag Purdy?, onside kick rule change, Hue Jackson headed to GSU

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the San Francisco 49ers saying they are motivated to get a deal done with QB Brock Purdy and debate if they should pay or tag him. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss the NFL will consider replacing the onside kick with an alternative proposal where teams would get one down to convert a 4th-and-20, and if they get 20 yards, then they would maintain possession of the ball, Hue Jackson headed to Georgia State as their new OC and much more!03:13 - 49ers11:41 - Joe Milton III responds to angry Pats fans15:05 - NFL looking into onside kick rules change28:20 - Hugh Jackson to Georgia St31:36 - Spell-O-Cinco41:14 - Dunk on Unc49:50 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's already been playing on minimum waves. I hate saying it like that because it is it. Hell, Baltimore upset. They didn't care about upsetting Lamar. I mean, I... I'm just saying, Ocho, they upset him. No, they didn't, though. But they franchised it.

He played on the franchise tag. Oh, that was a best ride. He sure did. Yeah, but you know, they have to pay. I know a lot of teams kicking themselves in the butt. Yeah. Hey, Atlanta Falcons, that $180,000 that you gave, what you call them, you could put another $40 million

that gave that to Lamar Jackson. Now, can you imagine Lamar Jackson in Atlanta? Oh, my goodness. We'll never know. We'll never know. We'll never know. Unless you're playing...

That would have been the second coming of Michael B. Oh, yeah. That would have been the second... Oh, can you imagine him on that turf? In that building? Man, that's...

Man, there'd have been so many eights. There'd have been just as many eights jerseys as there were seven. Yeah. At the apex of Mike B. Yeah. That city, this is Lamar Jackson in Atlanta. They would have been cooking, boy. They would have been cooking.

That's need to hear it, though, because he is a Raven. And he's only going to be a Raven. He ain't being it. He's going to have a statue out front just like Ray Lewis. He's going to be the greatest Raven in NFL and Raven history. And they've had some great ones. You know, you got Ray and you got Ogden and you got Reed and you got Suggs. But Lamar Jackson is going to go down as the greatest Raven ever.

Yeah. But the thing, back to the Purdy situation, you know good and well they franchising Purdy. You know that? You don't think so? Okay. You know,

come on now, come on now. You know, I'm not trying to, I'm trying to keep it cute here. You know good and well they're not franchising Purdy. You know,

they're going to take care of it. They're going to take care of it. I'm going to just leave itdy. Maybe they're going to take care of it. They're going to take care of it. I'm going to just leave it at that. They're going to take care of it. And they should. But the question though, Joe, the question. Yeah. He's been to an NFC Championship. He's been to two NFC Championship games. He's been to a Super Bowl.

This year had a lot of injuries. What's the number are we putting them at 55 to 60 million or are we somewhere between 35 and 45 million let's ask the question I don't think the question is the deal

I think it's the number in the deal right I say 30-45 30-45 range you know I'm not sure you know

what his agent may be thinking of what his agent wants to do but knowing an agent the agent wants to get as much as possible oh yeah

they trying to because everybody's trying to reset the market I'm sure they're trying to like hey whoa whoa whoa let's slow down a little bit

now we talk about Brock Perdue we ain't talking about reset the market type quarterback now. All I know is, hold on. He's done something Dak Prescott has never done. Been to an NFC Championship game. Gone to the Super Bowl. Dak got 60.

So what's your argument for Purdy not to get 62? I just want to hear it. Hey, listen. When it comes to negotiations, if they go in there with Dak and put it on the table and say it just like that write that on paper and slap that down slap that down on brother lynch's desk and who else got to see it well you ain't got no argument you you have the argument but listen as as a football person as a football person that understands the game and understand the different positions, you know, Brock Prudy is not a $60 million quarterback.

And I mean that with no disrespect. All I know is the market says I am. Okay. Look at all the guys that got $55 million and above. Right. How many of them have been to an NFC championship game? That guy's $60 million. He's never had. What's the guy in Jacksonville?

Trevor Lawrence. He never had. Tua, he never had. When you think about a quarterback making that kind of money, 60 million or above, you're looking at a quarterback that you say to yourself, well, you know what,

even with the injuries that have happened around me, my quarterback, his play can elevate everybody else. Yes. When everybody is here, his play is still playing at that elevated level. So what goes on around him

doesn't matter because we're paying him $60 million. He can do what Patrick Mahomes would do. Let me ask you a question. He can play well in moments when it matters. No, no, no, no. You can't. But let me ask you this.

If I took Chase from Burrow, you still believe he can get him to the AFC Championship game? I'm going to leave him T. Higgins. I'm going to leave him everybody else, but I'm taking Chase. It'd be a little bit more difficult. It'd be a little bit more difficult because where are you going to leave him T. Higgins. I'm going to leave him everybody else, but I'm taking Chase. It'd be a little bit more difficult. It'd be a little bit more difficult because where are you going to get the production from?

You have to be that more creative offensively in trying to fill out the production that Chase would give you if he was on the field. So how do you get that off of the court? That makes his job that much more difficult. You've got to get the production from somewhere that Chase would give you on the offense. And that's the hard part he said part he said well while

you're trying to tell me i didn't elevate my play tell me other than patrick mahomes who could i've reached my case i mean because that's my argument if i'm his agent right i'm saying you telling me well you know this guy uh he lost juwan jennings he inings. Jennings was out for a game or two, I think. Aiyuk went down early in the season. He was lost for a season. We lost McCaffrey. We lost Mason. We lost Berendo for a game.

Okay. Deebo was inconsistent this year. Yeah. We ended up losing McTrent. So I'm just trying to figure out other than my homes. Now, Josh Allen makes a compelling place because he lost his two top receivers. And you see where he got them in the playoff.

Yeah. Yeah. So Josh Allen agent, and they're about to do a big deal with him. He's probably going to get two 85, 300 million. Josh Allen. He just got paid. He about to get $285 million, $300 million. Who? Josh Allen. He just got paid, huh?

He about to get paid again. Already? Yes. He got paid two years ago, three years ago. It's time's up. That's quarterback. We don't let them get too far into the deal, Ochoa. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

That's everybody else we let get far into the deal, not the quarterback. Right, okay, okay. That's everybody else we let get far into the deal. Not the quarterback. Right, okay, I got you. I got you. Okay, let me take that back. Not certain quarterbacks. Yeah, I... I'm glad you cleared that up.

That's Ash back there laughing. Jordan. Oh. You got my trash can full of, uh, beer cans. Oh. You got my trash can full of beer cans. No. It's beer.

It's beer. You know Ash from the South. She got a pickup truck. She be throwing the cans right in the back. But look, they say they're motivated. Yeah. You don't want to have this thing lingering, Ocho. You want to get it done sooner rather than later.

Let's get a number. They're going to lose some people, though. Would I be surprised if Trent left? No. You got Bosa. Yeah. You got Bosa making big dollars. Think about it. Hufanga

is up. There's Ward. It's up. Yeah. Wentzicum is going to probably want to re-note. I don't know when the last time Fred Warner went in. He's probably going to want to do something with his deal. Right. Very nice, bro. You got Debo. You got Ayuk. You got Kittle. And now you're about to pay a guy 50 mil

right I say 40 45 45 is a good number Trent go I'm gonna tell you who gonna pay Trent top dollar who? the Chiefs

absolutely absolutely because the the left and right tackle played when the Chiefs has been abysmal all season long. Ocho, check this out. Yeah. Joe Milton III responds to angry Patriots fans on IG Live

who are mad about not getting the first overall pick. He says, I ain't played football since preseason. If y'all was in my shoes, y'all would give me an opportunity to play. Would y'all go out there and not show up and not show out so y'all was in my shoes, y'all would give me an opportunity to play. Would y'all go out there and not show up and not show out so y'all can talk all about me if I lose? I don't blame him. That's what I'm saying. Look, that ain't got

nothing to do with me. That's an organization thing. That's y'all mindset. No, athletes aren't wired like that. We're programmed. Man, you think I got to lift all those damn weights out here practicing in the cold to try to lose?

Nah. Not at all. Not at all. You're putting too much work, too much sacrifice to even get to that point to get to your childhood dream in the NFL. You know,

we're doing it on purpose. And I'm trying to show, I'm trying to show that, hey, if they want to move on, then I can build a solid backup somewhere. I'm trying to stay in the league. Most definitely. Because if I go out there and bull job, guess what? I'm going to become just like y'all, fans.

That's a good one, boy. That's a good one. That's exactly what's going to happen. You listen to the fans too long you'll be up in the stands just like they are right along with them because the mentality the mentality is different as a fan they'll never have yeah they have to understand they're looking out for the best interest of the team i'm trying to win a game because guess what i'm if they get i might not be here right they get good I'm not here to benefit from it.

Oh, yeah, we appreciate what y'all going to do for Milton. Ain't nobody going to pay no salary. That man out in the league. Oh, no. Joe, do your thing. Do what you do. You did right. You showed the Patriots that you can be a serviceable backup.

Excuse me. You also opened some other teams' eyes to let them know, oh, he can play a little bit. I like it. Yeah. I bit my damn lip.

Cover your mouth. Don't do that, Ocho. I did cover my mouth. I mean, look, Ocho, I covered my mouth. You saw that, Ocho. See, he's trying to get No, no. Well, I ain't got, I did cover my mouth. I mean, look, Ocho, I covered my mouth. You saw that, Ocho. See, he's trying to get you.

No, no. Well, I ain't got, I need some spray. I need some disinfectant. I mean, there you go. Oh, God. But, hey, Joe, you acquitted yourself well. You didn't get an opportunity to play much, but in the last game of the season, you showed up.

You did your thing, bro. And congratulations. You showed the Patriots. Whoever the coach coming in there, they're like, hey, we got a nice little backup. Hey, you're going to be on the roster next year to make yourself a little money. Go make yourself a little money.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, but don't listen to the fans joe they did they fans for a reason let them cheer and boo and do whatever they want to do but you're going out there you ain't hey it ain't your job your job is to go out there and play play well that's your ability keep you keep and to be gainfully employed that is your job jo, Joe. And you did that. And I believe you're going to have a job next year with the Patriots. And if you don't, you showed that you could play in this league.

You showed that. You're going to be somewhere. Absolutely. And not up in the stands cheering like they are. So I ain't got no problem with what he did. Oh, Joe, the NFL will consider replacing the onside kick with an alternative proposal that has been mentioned in the years past. Instead of attempting the onside kick,

teams would get one down to convert fourth and 20. And if they get 20 yards, they would maintain possession of the ball. Ocho, how many times have you seen a team pick up for a 20 yard? That ain't nothing. get 20 yards, they would maintain possession of the ball. Buncho! How many times have you seen a team pick up for 20 yards? That ain't nothing! Hey, but I'm just saying the difficulty in getting 20 yards in one shot is very,

very, very rare. So you ain't never seen nobody get a 20-yard game? I'm saying it's very, very rare. It can happen. It happens. How many? Come on, now. It happens. How many? How many? Come on, now. Get off.

You know how many plays? You know how many plays in the playbook for 40? Yeah, how many? Well, we finna find out. On average, how many 20-yard plays happen in an NFL game?

I know one thing. It ain't gonna be many. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Elcho, guess what happened? You get a penalty.

You get a penalty? What? You get a holding penalty. Incidental contact. Illegal hands to the face. That's a first down. That's a first down, but you have to rely on the pass. They get the ball. You have to hope that happens.

You have to hope that happens. Let me ask you a question. Did we not see penalties tonight? Yeah. You saw two of them. Guess what? Indicated interceptions. Hold on, hold on hold on we're saying more than 20 eliminate the onside kickoff in hopes that there's a penalty on the

play what if you don't get the penalty okay oh oh joe think about what you just said what if you don't get the play but what think about it the call what if there's no holding call? I'd rather... What I'm saying, do you think the onside kick, the conventional onside kick, is more or less difficult than a fourth and 20 play? Which is more difficult to happen? Fourth and 20.

Than an onside kick? Yes, if you got a kicker that knows how to kick the goddamn ball and they have the third bounce go up in the air. You know what the problem is? The goddamn kickerser that knows how to kick the goddamn ball and they have the third bounce go up in the air. You know what the problem is? The goddamn kickers don't know how to make the goddamn ball bounce. Listen, let me say something, especially to the chat. People need to understand what the onside kick is supposed to look like.

The kicker is supposed to kick the ball. It's supposed to hit the ground. On the third bounce, the ball is supposed to bounce and go up. Nobody has perfected that yet for some guy. I don't know why. It's an onside kick. It's supposed to be basically. Before you do that, what's the onside conversion rate?

Give me the onside conversion rate. Hey, you know what I'm talking about. I know you've seen the onside kick. You got the right way, right? Yes, yes. I know you take that bounce. It hits that and it goes all the way up. And it basically becomes a junk ball.

But nobody's been able to do it. I'm not sure what the kickers are doing these days. The onside kick is 4%. 4%. Right. Now, how many times do you think there's a 20?

I guarantee you there are more than 4% 20-yard plays in the NFL in a game. No, not 4 than 20. Oh, Joe. But if it's a No, not four than 20. Ocho. But if it's a penalty, there's so many things can happen. Yeah, that's a hypothetical. What if it ain't?

Okay, you don't get it. I think the percentage is just as low. But see, you just gave a hypothetical. If it hit that perfect bounce, then get it. That's a hypothetical. It's really not hitting the perfect bounce. It's a technique to it. It's a technique that the perfect bounce. It's a technique to it. It's a technique that I've mastered.

It still doesn't matter. If I lock it up perfectly, I still going to recover it. If my guys block the guys because you got one guy that's going to try to end my third bounce, he's running the edge to try to get it. Now, I get my guys up front to lock it. Now, Green Bay messed it up against Seattle because what was supposed to happen, the tight end was supposed to block and Jordy Nelson was supposed

to field it. But what he did is he blocked back up. So, now, I'm going to coach it up. I believe there's a greater chance of converting 4th and 20 than it is actually getting an onside kick. Absolutely not. I think the percentage is the same

or maybe even lower than the onside kick. 4% if it's 4% for the onside kick. The Ravens have 85 plays of 20 yards or more. 85. So guess what, Ocho? Wait, wait, wait.

They have 85 plays of 20 yards or more on first, second, and third down. Not fourth. Ocho, but... No, Ocho. It doesn't matter. You just looking at the down. I'm looking at 20 yards.

What difference does it make? So that's at least, so in 17 games, in 17 games, guess what, Ocho? How many is that? That's like four games, isn't it? No, it's not happening. That's almost five a game. You got to think about it. This is situational. That's almost five a game. You got to think about it. This is a situation.

That's almost five a game. It's a situational football. This is an onside kick. And instead of doing an onside kick. How many onside kicks did the Ravens recover this year? You won't have one shot at fourth and 20. You are not getting that as often as you think. It's not happening.

Ocho, you're going to pick up fourth and 20 more than you're going to get an onside kick. I can assure you of that. No, absolutely not. It's not happening. You're making it sound like they're out there playing flag football. This ain't flag football. You're not just. Ocho.

No. Ocho, you looking at first, second, or third. I'm looking at 20 yards. It's 20 yards. You know how hard it is to get 20 yards? Yes. It's even harder to get an onside kick recovery. That's my point.

The difficulty is about the same. I'm telling you. Ocho, this man out his mind, Chad. You tripping. And if the Chaddies agree, would you have something wrong with them too? I know how difficult it is to get 20 damn yards. It is not more difficult to get 20 yards than it is

on the onside recovery, Ocho. Man, I'm telling you. That's why it's only 4%. It's equivalent. It's equivalent. It is not equivalent. It's about 4% as well. Do you understand? I wish I had a defensive player that was in the chat that actually plays in the NFL right now so they can tell you

how difficult it is to get 20 yards. And listen, all the things you can do defensively to make sure a team doesn't get 20 yards. You need Ocho. But there's so many Ocho. But see, here's the thing. What can the defenders, when he's trying to recover it, there's

a lot of things that he can't really do anything wrong. All he can do is mess up recovery. You on fourth and 20, you, guess what? You can jump outside now it's fourth and 15.

You can illegal hands to the face. That's first down. You can illegal contact. That's first down. You can face mask. That's first down. Guess what else you can do, Ocho? How many rough in the passes

you've seen that went to a first down? Right. Now that's hoping for a penalty. Everything you just did is hoping that something else goes wrong so we can get the first down. But what are you hoping for on the old side?

You're hoping for the ball to pop up so it gets you to get it. So you're hoping. It's not, it's not likely. Neither one of us. Oh, Joe, there were only three onside kicks recovered all year.

So there are 32 teams. They play 17 games each. Right. Only three onside were recovered. Now, how many 20 yard games? How many third and twenties? How many third and 20s? How many second and 20s?

How many first and 20s do you think they got? Forget fourth. I'm looking at 20 yards. You're looking at the down. 20 yards is 20 yards, whether it's first down, second down, third down, or fourth down. You have to understand the situation

and the circumstance. I'm opting out of the on-side, and we're trying to have one shot at 20 yards instead of an onside field, I mean, instead of an onside kick. It's the chances decrease significantly in making it in that one circumstance in the situation.

I'm trying to tell you, listen. Ocho, that's why you just throw the ball because there's so many things that the defense can do to give you a first down. You can incidental contact. You can PI. You can hold. You can illegal hands to the face. You can face mask.

You can unnecessary roughness on the quarterback. There are six things. Now tell me six things that the offense, that you can do other than recover the ball that will get you the ball on an onside. Even on that onside, not having those six things as a possibility that can happen on onside is

still significantly low. Your chance is still significantly low. Still, either way. I'm just being honest. We're making it where you're making it sound too... Ocho, the conversion rate on 4th and 15

or more is 15%. The conversion rate is less than 4% on the onside. Now, I don't know who your math teacher was. Wait a minute. Let's go back a little bit. Now, I don't know who your math teacher was. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Let's go back. Let's go back a little bit. Now, I've already said something.

I made it very clear from the beginning is the fact that the kickers don't even know how to do the onside kick. Oh, Joe. See, I was going to say, not quarterbacks don't know how to throw the ball. You see what you did? You did another caveat. The onside kick. I'm telling you the onside kick, there's a certain technique to it that the goddamn kicker...

There's a certain technique to pick up on 20 yards. You see how I can do that? I can keep playing that game with you. It's not a game. I'm just telling you. The chances increase when the kicker knows what the hell he's doing. The chances increase when the quarterback knows what he's doing. All right.

I'm just playing. I'm playing your game you want to do hypothetical I'm going to give it back to you let's go you up next I don't challenge you

it ain't no changing the goal post y'all it is tougher to recover an onside kick than it is to pick 20 yards

you looking at four I'm looking at 20 yards so No. You're looking at four. I'm looking at 20 yards. So let me ask you a question. Yes, sir. Chad, what's the difference between first and 20, second and 20,

third and 20, fourth and 20? 20 yards is 20 yards. But ain't nobody getting it in one lump. It's hard to get 20 yards in one lump sum. It's not, it's not.

It's harder to recover an onside than to pick up 20 yards. Both of them are equally as difficult is what I'm trying to tell you. No, Ocho. What's equally as difficult is which weighs the more. Which weighs more? A ton of bricks or a ton of feathers? It's not that complicated, Ocho. Which weighs more, a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers?

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Hugh Jackson is headed to Georgia State as the OC. Ocho. Yeah. Your old wide receiver. Hugh Jackson! Huge!

Congrats. Congrats. Ocho, what you think? You like it? I love it. I love it. Listen, I was... You going to coach

the wide receivers? No, no, no, no, no. I can't coach no receivers. I can't coach... I got too many jobs. I got too many jobs. I got too many jobs right now. Hey, you have one job, coaching. No, they don't pay enough.

They don't pay enough. They don't pay enough, you know? You know, listen, I don't think people understand. I'm making better than NFL, NFL better minimum wage times 10, having 50, 11 jobs. I ain't going to Georgia state.

They can't, they can't afford me. I don't know if that makes sense, but it may, it makes sense to me. But yeah, listen, you,

you, you did one of this for me in my career and my growth as a player, not only as a player that as, as, as a man, as a man as well, man, I think he, he's a great think he's a great leader of men,

somebody that means a lot, especially to me and my career and what he was able to do for me as my head coach in Cincinnati during those years and that tenure I had with him. Man, I'm happy for him. I'm going to go down there and visit him, though. I come down there and intern when I got a little break, put my cleats on, run a few routes, lock up a few receivers

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He's a great offensive mind. I like him. I met Hugh when he was a receivers coach in Baltimore. Yeah. And so, I like Hugh.

Talked to him. I hadn't talked to him in a minute. Actually, when he was the head coach at Cleveland. So I like Hugh Jack a lot. It's a great opportunity. Hopefully, he gets an opportunity to parlay that into another head coach because I think he deserves to be a head coach somewhere. Listen, if you ever have the

opportunity, but I know the chat wouldn't have the opportunity but you just said it to bring your mind. If you ever have the opportunity to sit down with you and talk football, I'm talking about X's and O's, it'll blow your mind. Oh yeah. And I think, you know what, Joe? I think you better as an offensive coordinator

than a head coach. Right. Okay. Okay. The two are different. The two are very different. In fact, all I got to do is worry about this offense. I ain't got to worry about the defense.

I ain't got to worry about the special team. I ain't got to coach the coaches. I ain't got to worry about nothing. I ain't got to worry about somebody showing up late. I ain't got to worry about any of this. All I worry about is the offense. Right. Yeah.

I like it. And that's the most difficult thing a lot of times, though, as a head coach, is being able to delegate. Being able to delegate, having the right people. Right. To make sure your generals get your message out. But that's not easy. That's not easy. But that's not easy. That's not easy. But congratulations to you, Jack.

Congratulations to you, Jackson, headed to Georgia State as the OC. That's live. I thought you was going to be... Oh, Ocho. Now, see, we got a little extra time Ocho we got your segment coming back oh yeah

Spello Cinco you doing it right now hold on hold on yeah I gotta make my entrance gotta make my entrance yeah gotta make my answers. Yeah.

Gotta make my answers. Let's go. Let's go chat. Let's go. Ocho. The first word is flummoxed. Wait. Flummoxed. Flummoxed. Yes. The last discussion

between the onside and fourth and 20 had Ocho completely flummoxed. Flummoxed? Yes. That could be wrong, but I'm flummoxed. Flummoxed. F-L-U-M-I-X-E-D?

No. What? F-L-U-M-M-O-X-E-D. Flummoxed. It means confused. Wait a minute. Well, now, listen. Listen, I need you to do me a favor.

On these next words, I need you to pronounce and sound the words all the way out. Because that... Flummoxed. I said flummoxed. And I even gave you the definition. I even gave you the definition. The definition has nothing to do with what you're saying. Because usually... Flummoxed. I said flummoxed. And I even gave you the definition. I even gave you the definition. The definition has nothing to do with what you're saying because you had two M's. Flummoxed.

You had two M's, right? Yes. When you say it, you say flummoxed. No, no. Let me know that two M's. Nobody said flummoxed. They say flummoxed. That lets me know I had two M's, so I didn't know that now. Okay, come on.

Okay, your next word is Billingsgate. Billingsgate. A word used to describe coarse language. Billingsgate. Billingsgate. B-I-L-L-I N-G-S-G-A-T-E Correct. We saw him look down, Jack.

I'm playing with him. Don't play with him. The next word is Octothorpe. Huh? Octothorpe huh octothorpe octothorpe octothorpe auto autothorpe octothorpe ain't no so auto hello are you saying auto as an automobile no don't do that i'm'm asking you. You heard what I said. I said Ock. Ock. Ock-o-thorpe.

Hey, hey, don't. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, Ocho. Look at the camera. Straight ahead. Thank you. There you go. Ocho.

Ocho. Look at me. Thank you. Ock-o-thorpe. Are you trying to say Ock-o-thorpe? There ain't no Ock-o. Ock-o-thorpe.pe? There ain't no Octo. Octothorpe. I'm confused.

Octo. Octo. So Octopus starts with O-C. So I'm assuming Octo as well starts with O-C, right? Octothorpe? Hey, hello? Yeah. Octothorpe. Yes. i'm taking a guess here uh oct octo octo thorpe t-h-o-r-p-e octothorpe i know i'm wrong this man look at that chat well y'all stop putting

the word in there y'all see cheating? Damn. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Talking about it. Did I get it right? Yeah, you got it right. I ain't writing it. We got it. Matter of fact, you talking about it. You talking about it being in the chat. My chat ain't even up. Matter of fact, hold on. Let me show you. Oh, no, wait. Don't

say that. Don't say that. Look at my camera. Look what's on my camera. You got a computer. Hold on. Thank you. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. The next word is festoon. You said I got my computer up. This is what's up with my computer. Man, Ocho, stop it. Festoon.

Yeah. Apologize. Festoon. Apologize. Festoon. Festoon. Are you going to apologize? Apologize. Apologize. Apologize. Fast. Fast. Tune. Are you going to apologize? Please apologize.

Fast. Tune. Okay, hold on. Are you going to apologize for being wrong? Absolutely not. All right, what's the word? Fast. Tune.

What? Fast. Tune. Fast. Fast. Fast. All right, what's the word? Festoon. Who? Festoon. Fest, fest. Like when you fest up to something, right? Yes. I fest up to it. It starts with F-E-S. So I'm assuming festoon.

I know it's probably some weirdo, some weirdo butchering of the English language, the way this is spelled. Festoon, F-E-S. Now, when you say tune, is it like tune like the radio when you tune into something? Is it T-O-O-N

or T-U-N-E? Festoon. Huh? Festoon. I don't like that we're not in grants and you trying to be on my side and help me figure this out festoon can I get

can I get um describe decor and how a place is decorated festoon festoon you know I'm gonna take a wing at it F-E-S-T-O-O-N. I know it's wrong.

Correct. Best tune. You serious? Are you just bullshitting? No, that's right. The next word. Accubation. What?

Accubation. Now, I've never... Accubation. I've never heard accubation, butubation now i've never accubation i've never heard accubation but i've heard accusation it's described a person who eats or drinks laying down accubation right accubation accubation okay accu accu accubation A-C-U B-A-T-I-O-N I know it's wrong It's A-C-C Ah

U-B A-T-I-O-N Accubation Describes a person Who eats a drink While laying down You not gonna give me that? No

Cause you had one C The other C was're not going to give me that? No, because you had one C. The other C was silent. You're not going to give me that? Well, I needed you to whisper it. Hey, listen, you could have gave me that, man. If you go to script spelling bee and you spell the word wrong, they're not going to give it to you. I'm just saying, for the sake of things and for how well I'm doing tonight, you could have gave me that.

Your boldest word is Biblioclip. Biblioclip. Hey, that's a good one. The word, Ocho, listen to me, listen closely. Okay. The word is Biblioclip. Hey, that's a good one. The word, oh, Cho, listen to me. Listen closely. Okay. The word is biblioclip, a person who steals books. I mean, why didn't you say spell thief?

No. All right. Because a biblioclip and a thief. Biblioclip. Biblioclip. Bibli. Bibli. I know B-I-B. L.

Biblio. Biblio. B-I-B-L. Biblio. B-I-B-L-O. B-I-B-L-O? No, no, no, no, no. B-I-B-L-O. B-I-B-L-O.

Hey, I don't like this word. Why? Because I'm getting stumped. I don't know if it's B-L-O. No, it can't be B-L-O. Biblio clip. A person who steals books. Biblio.

B-I-B-L-E-O clip. K-L-E-P-T. I know that's wrong. B-I-B-L-I-O-K-L-E-P-T. Biblio clip. I was off by a little bit. I was off byoclip. I was off by a little bit. I was off by a little bit. I was off by a little bit.

You got two right. What? Billingsgate. No, you got three right. Billingsgate. What are you trying to cheat, man? No, he didn't get Billingsgate. Yes, I did.

Yeah, you did. You did. You got Billingsgate. Oh, you were trying to cheat me. No, you got Octothorpe. I didn't cheat Billingsgate. Yes, I did. Yeah, you did. You did. You got Billingsgate. Oh, you're trying to cheat me. No, you got Octothorne. I didn't cheat. You got Festoon. And you got Billingsgate.

No, no. You got three. You was three of six. I was four of six. You missed Flummox. Hey, yo, boy. You missed Accubation. And you missed Biblioclip.

What are you trying to cheat me biblio clip are you trying to cheat me boy that boy you trying to see me it's all good oh joe that the biblio clip was a bonus so actually you were you were three for five you but you missed the bonus three for six so the bonus gets in there so all right oh joe now it's time for dunk on up no i'm going up and that's exactly what we get ready to do. We get ready to dunk. We're going to dunk like nine-hours. Okay?

Here we go. Chat, y'all ready? Chat, do not put the answers in the chat, please. Don't do that. Okay, you ready? Yes. Yes. After trailing 24-7 in the fourth quarter of the 1979 Cotton Bowl against Houston,

the Fighting Irish rallied for a 35-34 win behind this future NFL Hall of Fame. Joe Montana, they gave him soup on the sideline. I ain't going to waste your time. I ain't going to hold you. Okay. All right. Y'all see that? I ain't going to hold you. I ain't gonna waste your time. I ain't gonna hold you. Okay. Alright. I ain't gonna hold you. I ain't gonna hold you. I ain't gonna hold you. I ain't gonna hold you. Okay. You ready?

Yes. Hired in 1918. Okay. Okay. He led Notre Dame to five undefeated seasons won the four pass of football and holds the highest winning percentage

in FBS history with.881 who is this I believe it was the great Frank Leahy that is absolutely wrong and you said who was it

that's conviction like you thought it was right. I thought it was. Who was it? No, it's Newt Rockne. Rockne. Rockne. I can't believe I missed that bullet, John. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You gonna miss this too. I gonna miss this one. Oh, trust me. You gonna miss this one. You ready? Yes. This Penn State quarterback was the runner-up

to the Oklahoma Billy Sims for the 1978 Heisman Trophy, then later played in the USFL for the Philadelphia Baltimore Stars. Chuck Fasano? God damn it. Stop playing. I ain't gonna hold you, Ocho.

I ain't gonna hold you. I ain't gonna hold you. I ain't gonna hold you. Okay. ain't gonna hold you I ain't gonna hold you I ain't gonna hold you okay www.email.com I'm logged on y'all got me logged on right now I'm logged on now

that was a good one that was a good one I miss your head Ocho Ocho when I got me when me and Teddy bear sleep like that

I'm dreaming okay I'm thinking a question that Ocho could possibly answer. So now I got to go through, I got to go through Shugo, not Google, Shugo, which is Shannon, Google, Shugo.

Right. Well, let me tell you, I'm going to tell you one thing. If you and Teddy sleep, you're off on a wake up on this right here then. Nickname linebacker you. Penn State has produced

many great linebackers. Does this stand out? Yes. 1999 team won the Buckus Award that season. Who is that? linebacker you. Penn State has produced many great linebackers. This standout 2019 won the Buckus Award that season. Who is that? LeVar Arrington. They also had

Chris Billman, Shane Connelly. Hey, remember that play where LeVar jumped over the line of scrimmage? Mm-hmm. I remember that. I remember that. All right, I'm going to let you have it. Hey, I just want y'all to know, I'm logged on. I'm plugged in. I mean, listen.

Listen, I mean, Helen Keller would have known to answer that. See, I'm going to go ahead and give you the answer because I don't want to hold you. Because the chat told me, oh, you. Now, the chat told me, oh, he's looking at the computer. How can I look at the computer? I don't know what Ochoa going to ask me. And I'll spit it out as soon as he come out with it. Come on, chat.

Give me some credit. Okay, here we go. Here we go. Chat, y'all pay attention to him over there now because he tried to say I was cheating and I turned my camera and my computer around and you can see there was no chat up. This one for you, Teddy. This one for Teddy. Here we go.

Here we go. Drafted second overall by the Seattle Seahawks in 1993, this Notre Dame quarterback was selected right after Drew Bledsoe. Rick Meyer. How long gone? How long gone? What now? Chad,'m long gone What now? Chat, what now?

What now? Y'all ain't even got it up in the chat yet Come on, Ocho Okay Last one You ain't gonna get this one right In 1994 This Penn State quarterback Led a record-setting offense

To an undefeated season And a Rose Bowl win before going fifth overall in the 1995 NFL Draft. Kerry Collins, I ain't gonna hold you. He and Keijon Carter was in the same backfield. I don't even want to hold you. Hey, Chad, what y'all think about that? How'd I do, Chad? Chad, how'd I do, Chad? Hey, you... How'd I do? Chad? Chad, how'd I do, Chad? Hey, you...

How'd I do? You must have got breezed before this. You must have got breezed. Nah, you... I'm long gone. Nah. I'm long gone, though, Chad. I'm going to make sure all my answers is from the...

I'm going to make sure all my questions next time is from the 1900s man why you got to go back to 1918 hey man listen I knew the answer before I even asked it again five or six

and the winner I was long known tonight Ocho that was a good one I was long known I wasn't gonna even hold you Ocho I wasn't gonna pretend

like I was like because you look at the ride so I just go ahead and read it out alright Ocho now it's time for our final right ocho now it's time for our final segment of the evening it's time for you cheated man i'm just thinking about it man

hi chiocho listen like the questions i was asking weren't as difficult as the words I had to spell. Ocho, you asking me stuff. Who finished running up to Billy Sims in the 1978 Heisman? Now, if you'd have asked me who won the 1977 Heisman, I'd have had to stumble a little bit, pretend like I didn't know, and say the Tyler Rose, which is Earl Campbell. Now, if you'd have went to 76, I'd have said Tony Dorsett.

Now, since you went to 78, it was Billy Sims. And then 79 would have been, who would have been in 79? White from USC. 80 would have been George Rogers. 81 would have been Marcus Allen. 82 would have been Herschel Walker. 83 would have been Mike Ruggier. But go ahead, I get your point.

And then I'd have said Doug Flutie. Okay, okay. And then I went have said Doug Flutie. Okay. And then I would have went Bo Jackson. Okay. I see you. I see you. I see you. I'm going to let you have that.

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What? Who? Yeah. Huh? I can't hear you. All right. Yeah. See, what time is it?

One o'clock. You see? Why are you calling my phone this time of night? Making sure you're where you're supposed to be. No, no. What she's trying to do is she thinks I'm a booty call. And that's what I'm not going to be. I'm not going to be your little boy.

I bet you drag your tired lady black ass over there. I bet. I guarantee you. I guarantee you. Because what you're not going to do, you're not going to disrespect me little boy. I bet you drag your tie and leave the black ass over there. I bet. I guarantee you. I guarantee you. I don't. Because what you're not going to do, you're not going to disrespect me and think you're just going to use me, you know, for my parts, you know. This is not what you wanted. You didn't want to continue to build with me. Then, listen, I ain't

no talk. Oh, then 86, you know 86 Benny Chester Birdie went to Hodgman? Hey, come on, man. Oh, my bad. You know 86? Benny Chester-Burton won the Heisman? Hey, come on, man. Oh, my bad. You didn't know that? Nah. Tim Brown won in 87. And then Barry. And then Audrey Ward.

Okay, let's go. Ty Detmer. Okay, but I get what you're saying. Then Desmond Howard. But okay. Aaron Owens says, what's're saying. Didn't Desmond Howard, but okay. Aaron Owens says, what's up, Uncle Nocho? When you first got to the league, what was the first DB to shut you down?

He's talking to you. Yeah, what's up, Uncle Nocho? When you got to the league, who was the first DB who shut you down? Ain't nobody shut me down when I first got there. On the back end, Revis had the day. That was about it. I'm trying to think.

When I first got in the league, I didn't get a whole lot of playing time, so I didn't get my 15 plays. A lot of people shut me down because I wasn't getting no passes. Mainly it was Coach Reed because he wasn't getting no passes. Mainly, it was Coach Reed because he ain't called no plays for me. But, man, you know, back then on children, they, DBs were physical.

Oh, yeah. It wasn't no incidental contact. It wasn't none of that stuff. Man, look here. Man, them jerks put paws on you, man. You wasn't going nowhere. They was strong as hell. Man, shoot for Adele Carter

yeah DC him and uh he was in um with James Hasty he was in uh James Hasty he was there with Hasty uh the Raiders you know the Raiders always had DB they play straight man coverage though

I love playing the Raiders cause it wasn't look They played straight man covers, though. Yeah. I love playing the Raiders. Because it wasn't, look. You know what you did? It wasn't no secret. It wasn't no, oh, they're going to play cover four. They're going to play cover two. They're going to play 25.

They're playing straight man. First down, second down, third down. They're playing man. Hey, right there in front of you you go in motion he gonna follow your formation it ain't no secret what they were doing so I love the Raiders because

it wasn't a whole lot of studying right and then that was when you know hey look DB and Mike was like hey do whatever you want to do you can hold them oh man come on bro come on now And Mike was like, hey, do whatever you want to do. You can hold them. Oh, man. Come on, bro.

Come on now. They're grabbing you around the rest. Come on now. They're going to call that. But it definitely prepared us to get open. Isaiah Lancaster says, Uncle Nocho, which quarterback in the NFC for the playoffs do you trust the most? And who's more clutch in their sport as two great players Mahomes or Michael Jordan? Ooh, that Mahomes question. I'm going to come back to that. But the quarterback I trust most in the NFC would probably, would probably have to be golf, huh? I agree. That's what I

would say. I would say Jerry golf. Probably have to be golf. And listen, there would be nothing wrong with me saying Stafford as well, being that Stafford has already won a Super Bowl. So somebody I also trust, especially what he he has to work with offensively. I don't think he has as much around him like Detroit. Right. Because they're already going to be at a disadvantage on you, not to cut you off, because now the game's going to be played in Arizona.

So you've lost home field advantage. Whatever home field advantage you have, it's not like they really have one, because everybody in L.A. is a transplant. So there's not like, oh, man, I'm a die-hard Rams fan. No, it's not like they really have one because everybody in LA is a transplant. So there's not like, oh, man, I'm a die-hard Rams fan. No, it ain't like that. You know, like, you go to Detroit,

they're going to have a true home field advantage. You know, you go to Pittsburgh, you go to Baltimore, you go to Kansas City or Tampa, you're going to have a true home field advantage. Why don't you play at a neutral site? And it's not like the Rams have this overwhelming fan base to begin with.

They do travel, but they don't travel like a Steelers. They don't travel like an Eagles fan base. They don't travel like that now. I would not be surprised. The Eagles are going to play in goddamn Alaska. Yeah. Man, listen. Everybody from Philly is going to be in Alaska. Man, listen. Everybody from Philly

going to be in Alaska. Oh, yeah. The Eagles and the Steelers, they don't play. I wouldn't be surprised, Ocho, if the Vikings have more fans in Arizona than the Rams.

Well, you don't... Now it's the playoffs now, so I would think the Rams fans even those who haven't been fans throughout the year I think they will travel well I would hope especially now that they've made it to the playoffs Ocho I don't know if you've ever been to a Rams

home game there's always more visiting fans than the Rams fans yeah when they played the Vikings earlier in the season I was there there's more man I went to when they played the vikings earlier in the season i was there there's more i mean i went to i went to when they played the champion when they played sam fran ralph played sam fran in the championship game right there was more 49ers there was more red and gold right than it was blue and silver i mean blue and uh yellow yellow yeah i wonder why it's it's crazy.

You think maybe LA, is LA like Miami? They ain't coming. Yeah, it's a transplant. Yeah, ain't no natives. Right. They ain't coming to the game unless you winning. Right.

Most of the fans, they grew up, they were Steelers fans, they were Packers fans, they were Cowboys fans, they were this fans, they were that fans. Right.

And so they moved here. And like, oh fans, they were that thing. Right. And so they moved here. Oh, our team's coming. Rams ain't really happy. Think about it. The Rams, they were in Anaheim, and they were in St. Louis. Right, right, right. No.

Miguel Ortiz says, Bo, the AFC West and the NFC North has three teams in the playoffs if you were to make a division versus division matchup mixing up all the players of the division to make a team wow that'd be really good

we ain't got no running backs I mean look if you take my homeboy and say he's your quarterback, let's just say you take Lamar. Man, they got Derrick Henry. They got Chase. Yeah.

They're cheating. Yeah, it is. They're cheating. They got, I mean, look, they got Hendrickson they got uh uh uh T.J. Watt oh yeah they got Roquan Smith I mean first of all the Ravens had nine pro bowlers and boy them boys stack the shit, man. And then you had Hendrickson made the pro bowl,

Chase made the pro bowl, and Joe made the pro bowl. Now, we might get y'all on linemen, because, you know, we got Creed Humphrey as the center, Tooney, the left guard.

Try to think. Left tackle, probably be Slater right tackle probably be Joe Alt yeah I think the FC North might win it every time

it'd be good I mean hey we got two tight ends I mean we got Kelsey and Brock Bauer which all got Andrews and likely.

But that'd be a good matchup. Dippington McGee, sup, Ocho, miss you guys. Live had to say those calling the bingo the team to beat were right. They got beat. Sorry, Ocho had to. Simmer down, simmer down, simmer down. Simmer down. Sorry, Ocho had to. Simmer down, simmer down, simmer down.

Simmer down. Yeah, Ocho, y'all was... Listen, we out of it. I don't want to talk no more about Bengals. Yeah, what they talk about? We're just going to focus on the teams that are in the playoffs. Yeah, that's what we need to focus on.

Yeah, but it won't be the Broncos after Saturday, but go ahead. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why are you talking about Broncos? focus on. Yeah, but it won't be the Broncos after Saturday, but go ahead. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up. Why are you talking about Broncos? I didn't. I said we won't have to talk about them after Saturday. Well, we got to talk about them up until Saturday. Guess who we don't got to talk about?

We haven't had to talk about them since Sunday. Whoa. And since you want to be nasty about it, where's my money? Since you want to be nasty about it where my money since you want to be nasty where my money chat y'all see that he being nasty and then got me my bread andrew said to your shame recent fires in la have impacted myself and my family. I would like to say thanks for providing an escape of reality. Muchas gracias, guys. Adrian, hey, bro, I appreciate the hard work that you do, man. We really appreciate that, man.

I am so sorry that your family, friends, and loved ones has been impacted by these forest fires. I've talked to some people that's lost everything, Ocho. It's bad. I was there in 17 and 18 when they had the forest fires and they say it's 10 times worse than that and I can just oof and a lot of people had their fire

insurance canceled so they had no coverage why oh it's a I don't know what to get I don't even want to talk about it but hey it's a, it's a, it's a, I don't know what he gets. I don't even want to talk about it, but Hey, it's just tough, bro. But I'll, I'll just hopefully you and your family and friends and some loved ones, everybody.

Um, um, I, I mean, I'm just, you just watching and you're like, wow. You just, I mean, you just, wow. I mean, I don't really, really know what else to say. I mean, I wish there was something I mean, I don't really, really know what else to say. I mean, I wish there was something I could do. That's crazy. But, uh,

but thank you, uh, Adrian, for all you do. J two, one, three, say,

uh, uh, happy birthday. Oh, Joe, my question for you all, the most, uh,

most thoughtful gift you've ever received. Love you both. My wife says, thank you for helping me get through this thoughtful gift you've ever received. Love you both. My wife says thank you for helping me get through the long nights. Oh, most thoughtful gift. Ocho, what's the most thoughtful gift you've ever received? The most thoughtful gift I've ever

received? I think my kids. Kids? Kids, yeah. I think my kids kids? kids yeah oh lord yeah yeah cause they didn't

I'm trying to think about gifts cause I'm I'm really not into gifts I'm very very very very simple very simple when it comes to gift giving

because the things that I like and I enjoy that bring me pleasure are like stupid stuff that people would laugh at. Like, who cares about that? Like, but. You know. Damn, that's a good one, Uncle.

This picture, I don't know if you can see it but it's a picture of my brother and I at the Hall of Fame with my grandmother in the backdrop that's a good one it's on the wall in my bedroom fortunately I'm not in Cali currently but that would probably be the first thing.

Other than the dogs, that would be the first thing that I grab. Everything else, I mean, the trophies, the jerseys, all that stuff, Hall of Fame jacket. I mean, I can't replace the jerseys. I mean, I get replicas, but they're not the actual jerseys that I played in the game with. That's fine. But that picture, Teddy and Titus,

I'm getting them and then all this other ish. It is what it is. It is what it is. Hey, I got a question. Yeah. I mean, back to the LA Fires, I'm curious. Why were the fire insurances or whatever it may be, why were they canceled when fires always happen up in the hills like that anyway? If it's a recurrent thing, not very common.

The same reason that you guys, that Florida canceled a lot of flood insurance because hurricanes happen, floods going to happen. So if we know something's going to happen, we don't want to ensure the most likely thing to happen. It's tough, man. It's tough. Damn. Man, it's crazy. It is. It's crazy. is it's crazy it absolutely is

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What up, Angelo? Y'all wish my girlfriend Maria happy birthday. She's 21. Hopefully you 22. We're huge fans of the podcast. God bless. Nothing but blessings. Success in 25. Maria. hopefully you 22 we're huge fans of the podcast god bless nothing less than 25 uh maria erica wants to wish you a happy birthday happy 21st birthday the big two one there hey i know

y'all had to celebrate this one y'all got to celebrate this thing and blow it out because you're never going to be 21 again and there's nothing like turning 21. So happy birthday Maria. Elmer, go do something special for your lady. Darius Allen, is it true now that you're faster shipping? I love the merch but don't want to wait 20 days again. No, you're good.

Matter of fact, what we've done is officially we've switched the fulfillment centers. So now it's not going to take that long but thank you for supporting a small business like look when you first start out bro you know there's a lot of technical things you got to get a there's a lot of stuff that gets lost uh we lost a lot of merchandise because we see people uh two uh they only ordered one and they ordered two and we shipped three or four but there's a lot of kinks and bugs that you got to get worked out and that's a part of it that's a part of the growing pains but bro deris i really thank you for your support bro but i promise you

you won't have to wait 20 days again hey i just ordered you know i ordered uh i want who get to see the emails ask to see the emails when they come through no yeah ask yeah i don't see the emails yeah i just i ordered um the one with the what you call it the nightcap shirt with the um underneath under this oh yeah with the thermal yeah i ordered out of the thermal today i ordered like some earlier today and i looked at my email again it said order shipped out already i'm like well god damn yeah we own it dog don't have affairs yes yeah bro we're gonna turn it around i mean once we get the handle of it yay appreciate it hey yeah yeah i mean uh it took us a little time to get everything situated but bro i uh i appreciate the support

guys uh but hopefully yeah i think we got it worked out now that the shipment will not take as long. We'll get it out to you ASAP. Hopefully, everybody's received their original orders, especially from the new merch. And as you order it now, we can get it to you right away. So thank you guys again for the support. That concludes this edition of Nightcap.

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