Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Prime to NFL?, Falcons fire DC, Pickens post game
Episode Date: January 12, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders expressing interest in the Las Vegas Raiders head coaching vacancy. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss... The Atlanta Falcons firing defensive coordinator Jimmy Lake after a disappointing season on that side of the ball, George Pickens runs his mouth yet again and much more!03:19 - Coach Prime has hc interest with Raiders09:38 - George Pickens still talking24:46 - Man tries to bring croc skull on flight38:43 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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terms, and responsible gaming resources. Coach O, according to reports, Coach Prime expresses interest in the Raiders' head coaching position.
According to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, associates of Coach Prime have reached out to the franchise to express Sanders' interest in the opening, Tom Brady is spearheading the search for a coach and general manager after the dismissal of Tom Telesco, general manager and head coach Antonio Pierce.
Brady will have a significant voice in the Raiders decision.
Hmm.
What you thinking, Ochoa?
I like it.
It sound good.
It sound real good.
But I understand and Prime knows Prime knows best.
Prime has been around the game of football for a very long time.
You also know, even if you do have interest in that quarterback job,
even if you do have interest in that head coaching job,
you will also have a short leash unless you have a goddamn quarterback.
True.
Unless you have a quarterback.
You, the greatest, the GOAT, Prime Time, will have a very short lease and mark
davis will also fire you as
well even with the
understanding you have
nothing to work with if you
have no quarterback true
now if he if the if the
situation revolved i mean if
the situation is resolved and
they have a if they have a
veteran presence or maybe
just so happen the raiders
find a way to go all the way up and get your door now we talking now we talking now now i understand
okay maybe with prime playing that seat out there to put it out there maybe he didn't say it the way
it's being reported i would love to coach my sons.
You know, you never know how the draft may happen.
But, you know, seeing Prime at the NFL level and him always saying, I would never want to coach NFL players.
Yeah.
You know, it would change, you know, because he had Prime had a song.
Must be the money.
And the money will be what it should be.
And I think I think it would be great for him. You know, everywhere he's gone.
High school in Dallas.
Jackson State.
Colorado.
He has turned those programs around.
And I'm sure he can do the same thing at the NFL level,
giving time, giving time.
You're not bringing prime in there and saying he can't have the power
to make the decisions, to build the type of team he needs to build,
to be able to compete week to week, especially in that division,
against the Chiefs, against the
Chargers.
You got to get in against the Broncos.
You got to have a quarterback.
You got to have a quarterback.
Because those teams have quarterbacks. They find their quarterbacks.
You got to have a quarterback. In order to
compete in a quarterback
league, you got to have a quarterback.
It's
really that simple. it's not it's
you know let's not make it more complicated uh complex than what it needs to be it's a
quarterback driven league and you need a quarterback to compete yeah yeah hold on
i i didn't drink too much water chad give me a minute. I got a pee-pee.
What y'all think, guys? Y'all like
Coach Prime to in Vegas?
Or y'all want him to stay at CU?
Green Blade play Philly tomorrow, right?
Is that the
early game?
Oh, yeah, the Broncos.
The Broncos, Buffalo's at one, and they're going to play.
Oh, wow.
So they got three games tomorrow, huh?
Wow.
So game starts at one.
Oh, so it's going to be like a regular Sunday, one, four,
and then eight, you know, 8 o'clock game, 8.30 game.
Okay?
Everybody want him to stay at CU?
I think, for me personally, I think the only reason,
I mean, this is consideration that he gets an opportunity
to coach his son.
It'd be interesting to see because I don't think Shador has,
the only voice that he's ever heard as a head coach is his dad.
That's time.
And so it'd be interesting.
I know that that's something that he would want.
And maybe the only position, the only team that's in position
to make that happen, the Giants kept Brian Dayball.
It seemed like for all intents and purposes,
the ink is about to be dry on that deal with Mike Brable in New England,
even though Gerard Mayo's wife had a lot to say on IG today.
Did we hear?
Did you see that? I guess she's not
she's not happy
with her husband
losing his job
after one season.
But
I think that's the only way
I think that's the only thing
that that's the only reason
he would have considered
this job Ocho
is that they're in position.
But you don't know
the Raiders
choose what six man to go up to go up that high is that they're in position. But you don't know. The Raiders choose, what, six?
Man, to go up that high?
Yeah.
Listen, they're going to have to, huh?
They're going to have to.
They have a need.
They have a need.
There are two quarterbacks
that are good that are coming out.
Ham Ward and Shandor Sanders,
then there's everybody else.
Yep. This is not a good draft class this out. Pam Ward and Shandor Sanders, then there's everybody else. Yep.
This is not a good draft class this year.
It's just not.
It's not a good draft class.
You've got to go and gamble and get what your team needs,
and the Raiders need a quarterback.
There might be a situation where they might pull in a situation where
they might pull it at what Atlanta did
draft a quarterback
bring a veteran in
and hope to have him for a year or two
right
and then the
understudy could step in
and go to work
I like it
I like it O I like it.
Oh, Joe.
George Pickens
had a lot to say
after the post game.
If we're playing it,
it's probably not good.
Let's take a listen
to what he had to say.
What have you done
with this offense
now for three years?
Have you seen
the sign of the
relationship moments
in the organization
still in the
offense?
Yeah, I've seen
signs of growth girl for sure.
From past, you know, the first year I've been here,
just way more girl for sure.
Does that make you optimistic going forward?
Uh, no.
No. but listen listen hey hey chat chat listen to me now i'm sure y'all just heard just heard what
pickens had to say but would you be optimistic if you were him would you be optimistic okay you
know you can't say that i know i know i know you should be optimistic but you're like hey
i say i said look we're getting better i've seen growth from my first year to my second year to my
third year right hopefully this is something that we can build on but in the back of my mind well
we good and terrible yeah yeah and then listen um you got you got to get the young bull involved i
know he's had his issues i know he's had his issues. I know he's had his problems.
You know, the effort, the being lazy, the loafing, you know, the not blocking, the penalties.
I know that. I know that.
But he has no reason to be optimistic with understanding what you just saw tonight.
This is the biggest game.
Why are you allowing the Ravens to dictate
you getting your
best offensive weapon involved
in the game and when you do get involved
it's too late you're already down two scores
that doesn't make
me optimistic there's no reason
why they can't the same way they use
Ladd-McConkie the same way
they use Cooper Cup or the way they use
Puginacua or the way they use
Jamar Chase or the way they use Cooper Cup or the way they use Puka Nakua or the way they use Jamar Chase
or the way they use
Justin Jefferson.
He has the exact same type of talent.
But he don't give you
the same type of effort.
Oh, come on.
Oh, Joe, you see it.
That's the first thing
I just talked about.
Yes.
I didn't talk about it,
but I'm understanding
what he's capable of doing.
When he wants to do it.
That's why he's not optimistic.
You think Jamar Chase don't loaf because they throw the ball to T. Higgins?
Puka Nakua doesn't loaf because they're throwing the ball to Cooper Cub?
Hold on.
Do you know everybody you just named know the ball is coming?
They know the ball is coming. George Spens go two quarters with no goddamn ball. No catches, no opportunities. Part of being professional is like, sometimes you got to just like, Hey, you got to bite your tongue.
You don't always,
you don't always have to tell the truth.
Considering,
considering your past record and what you've been doing on the field.
You're right.
He's the wrong guy.
He's the wrong guy.
I'm not saying he's wrong.
What he said,
I'm just saying he's the wrong message.
How about this?
Right message, wrong messenger. How about this? Right message,
wrong messenger.
Okay.
True.
We're leaving it at that.
Yes.
Yes.
But I kind of like
what players are now
starting to tell the truth
instead of being PC.
I kind of like it.
So I guess,
so I guess,
you know,
the Dolphins should come out
and tell the truth about the guys
that have been late for practice
and not missing meetings, huh?
Well, no, no, no, no, no way out.
You say you like to tell the truth,
so we just can't tell the truth
on one side and not tell the truth
on the other.
No, what I did say,
I say I like the fact that players
now at times are starting
to just be honest instead of being...
So can teams be honest also?
So can Mike Tomlin be honest about George Pickens?
Can Russell Wilson be honest about George Pickens and his effort?
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, you don't see the hair of the fan.
We address it, though. We address it ourselves.
No, no, no. We. I'm talking about team.
You say the player i want
players to be honest you say you want players to be honest so i want to be honest i don't want
russell to say i have the utmost confidence in him when he quit on the ball when he quit on the
ball and it caused me to get an interception i don't want him to be honest with that i want him
to say george pickett's quit on the ball had he not quit on that ball the safety would have got
wide and i could have had a hole shot.
That's what I want. You see, Knight, you're going to the extreme with it.
You just said you want players to be honest,
but not when it's honest with another player.
No, he was asked a question about his personal belief.
Is he optimistic about the offense?
No.
Why is he not optimistic about the offense?
Because they don't use the motherfucker.
Well, I'm not optimistic that he's going to ever be anything but a pouting diva that doesn't give effort on every play.
So can I be honest?
Yeah, you have every right to say that based on what we've seen.
You have every right to say that.
I'm just making sure because I don't want it to be one-sided that the players get to tell the truth,
but the team and other players don't get to tell the truth
about said player.
Right, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
I just think the thing is, in that situation,
it would have showed a lot of growth and a lot of maturity.
He'd have just framed it and said,
yeah, oh, yeah, I see.
From my first year to my second year,
you know, we get Russ in here.
We got a proven guy, a guy that's won a lot
of games in this league that's won a super bowl that's been to a super bowl that's been a start
of his entire career so i see the growth in this offense and hey i'm a young player myself there's
some things that i need to do better but i'm growing right along with it all the while in the
back of my mind this offense ain't really for me it doesn't really showcase what i do right you can
think that also we all think a lot of things that we don't say yeah we're not supposed to say it
yeah i understand that's just like i'm saying but like i said i just think the thing is is that
somebody just needs to get with george sit down and talk to him, and explain to him, like George,
is that you make it really hard
for fans to put their arms around you
when they see you quit on plays,
when they see you give a lackadaisical effort,
when they see you're not hustling,
when you're not getting the ball.
It's really hard to embrace you
because the one thing, look,
Steve has a hard hat and lunch pad. They want guys
to give effort. That's why they love
Hines Ward might be their favorite receiver.
Of all of them,
Swan, Star Wars, all
of them, Hines Ward might be their favorite.
Whoa, no.
Their favorite receiver
wears 84 and he's from Dade County.
No way.
I guarantee you, I guarantee you, if you talk a poll with Steelers fans, I guarantee you.
Take a poll right now in the chat.
No, no.
I said we need to take a span with Steelers, with the Steelers fans.
I guarantee you, I guarantee you, Hines Ward is their favorite player. They're picking 84. I guarantee you, I guarantee you Hines Ward is their favorite player.
They're picking 84, boy.
I guarantee you that.
I'm telling you.
I'm not telling you what I heard.
I'm telling you what I know.
I'm telling you what I know.
Because you know why?
Yes, A.B. had way more talent.
But the one thing you know about Hines,
Hines gave you everything he had when he was on the field
and he was a model citizen.
Whoa, and so, and so, listen, we're not talking about model citizens and stuff. We ain't talking about that. We're he was on the field and he was a model citizen. And so, listen, we're not talking
about model citizens and stuff. We ain't talking about that. We're talking about
on the field. Ocho, did you not see
the man throw the trash can on the
field?
Did you not see the man come late to
practice? Did you not see? Mike Tomlin
bitched in his last game, Ocho. Come on,
man. I'm not saying
AB wasn't talented. I'm saying
the fans.
Pittsburgh is a blue collar town
I know what Pittsburgh is
I had to deal with them twice a year
I know what they were
but you know that's a conversation
for another day
and
that joker gave you effort
the blocking
hey he was mean And, hey, that Joker gave you effort. The blocking.
Oh, hey, he was mean, that blocking boy.
Hey, when he used to go out to everybody.
He went out to everybody.
It wasn't just everybody.
Granted, Ocho, you know, hey, there's no love lost between the Steelers and the Ravens.
Yeah. We saw the intro with Big Ben and Sugar did that.
But boy,
Hyde went after everybody.
Oh, yeah, always.
Oh, Hyde's looking to get you now.
That's why they changed the rules.
That's why they can't...
Keith Rivers.
Remember when he booked...
What's his name, John?
Keith Rivers.
Keith Rivers, yeah.
Yeah, Cincinnati.
I remember that.
Yes.
And they changed the rules.
He is the reason why you can't do the blindside block anymore.
Crackback.
You can't crackback anymore.
Yes, he's the reason.
He was absolutely the reason.
But like I said, Ocho, George is a young player.
But at some point in time, we got to stop using age as an excuse.
He has to mature.
He has to be an adult
he has to do the right things
a part of doing the right things is saying the right
things when to say what to say
how to say it it's like I said
Ocho we think a lot of things
but we know we can't say
everything that comes up
comes out
especially after
the week that he just had last week that's the last thing that
he should want to like no i ain't i ain't got nothing to say i i ain't got i ain't got absolutely
nothing to say but but he was doing so good yes he's seen growth in the offense year one year two
year three different quarterback russ pro bowl quarterback super bowl quarterback
a lot of stars up on his belt a lot of touchdowns on his belt and hey this is my first year playing
with a proven quarterback like a russ that understands i understand him he understands me
oh this was hey there's a lot of i see it i see the growth but there's a lot of I see it. I see the growth, but there's a lot more room for improvement.
Right. Oh, everybody's like,
man, you hear Pick? Man, he
growing. Hey, he
matured right before our eyes.
And he's like, nah.
Hey, he's going to be all right, though. He's going to be all though you're going to be alright
I hope they have the choice
yeah
does he have to stay there
after this year
pick was the same
round pick so this is his third year right yeah
yeah
so he's got a three year deal so yeah
he's in line for a contract
yeah
I think it'd be good
for him to
probably go somewhere else.
They could transition.
They could franchise it.
For real? Yeah.
Damn.
Yeah.
But they own his rights.
Right. Okay.
They just can't give him that
fifth year option because he wasn't a
first round pick. Right. right, right, right, right.
So he's in the same situation as Brock Purdy.
A later draft pick, signed the deal.
He probably signed a three-year deal.
Did he sign a three-year or a four-year deal?
He signed a four-year?
So they got it for another year, Ocho.
They're going nowhere
and they're probably
they're going to probably
offer up a contract
yeah
I just read today
I think he's in line
for a contract
somewhere around
27 to 28 million dollars a year
yes sir
what you think
I mean listen
getting 27, 28
I would hope you use it the way it-28 I would hope
you use it the way it should be
I would hope you would do
that you know
and I'm not going to say it again
I'm not going to repeat myself I don't want to be redundant
but you know
despite
the flaws
and the red flags
what he can be
his full potential man The flaws and the red flags. What he can be.
His full potential.
Mesh.
He can play with the best. He can play with the best of them.
Yeah.
Oh, he can play with the best of them.
One thing we can't do is deny his ability.
Yeah.
He's the only playmaker that they got on that side of the ball.
He's the only onemaker that they got on that side of the ball.
He's the only one.
And you the night.
But that's neither here nor there.
But.
Well.
I'm sure.
Coach Tom is going to talk to him like he has every year after the season.
Tell him some of the things that he needs and want him to improve upon.
And we'll see if it resonates.
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Yeah.
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Ocho, what's the wildest thing
you've tried to bring into your carry-on?
Hey, that's a good question.
I'm trying to think. The wildest thing I've tried to bring into my carry-on.
I ain't really had nothing like this.
I'm just going to be honest with you, too, because I travel real light.
I travel real light now. I know people might laugh at me and
make fun of me, but
I purposely pack light when I'm traveling.
One of the things that I always
do, and I mean no
disrespect, and I'm
getting better with time as I get older,
but I always
steal hotel towels
when I come back home. When I travel
and I go places,
I take two sets of hotel towels.
To build up my collection.
At my place here.
And that would be the way.
I don't know.
I don't even know if you think.
You would consider that really being weird.
But.
I mean that's something I do.
I've never had any.
Any type of memorabilia.
Or.
Or.
Or artifacts.
Or anything of that.
Of that.
Of that nature.
But that.
That's.
That's.
That's the only thing i can think of that i
do especially when traveling you know i pack i pack one outfit no i pack one pair of shoes when
i go places for maybe more than two or three days and i just have multiple pairs of t-shirts socks
and underwear to be able to change but i just rotate the same outfit over and over but the
weirdest thing i do is i I still set the hotel towers.
I'm trying to think. Maybe $100,000.
Well, if you got $100,000,
what do I got to pay you that $4,000 for? That's what you owe. The bank got a lot of money.
They still want the money that you owe them.
Now, run me that.
And that was a long time ago.
And they're like, excuse excuse me whose bag is this
I'm like why
can we go through it
yeah but I will be
looking at you
while you do
yeah that's the damn joke
hold on
I thought you can't
you can't
I thought you can't
go through TSA
with that kind of money though
isn't there a limit
no there ain't no limit
look
when they
when they nab people,
somebody done tipped them off.
Right.
Because look, sometimes you go through there,
you got a full tube of toothpaste.
Sometimes you got mouthwash and don't nothing.
I've seen people like, oh my gosh,
I got through here with this bottle of water.
It happened.
But they just ask you know where you going
I'm going home
right
I ain't know
I ain't know that huh
yes
yeah I ain't know
you guys go through the airport
with that kind of money
oh yeah for sure
I ain't have it on my body
Ocho you make it seem
like I have a hundred thousand
strapped to me
I mean just
even even TSA
it would alarm the agents
why is this individual
carrying that kind of cash
going through
the check?
I mean,
I don't think I'm going to sit up any suspicions, do you?
Yeah, you're black.
With $100,000.
I'm still sharing the charm, too.
Oh.
Okay.
They recognize you.
They're like, okay, yeah.
You probably would have that kind of money
okay yeah i said a hundred thousand not a hundred million okay pop pop pop pop your a pop pop talk
your talk your talk man well let me ask you this oncho yes sir i want to go through i want to go
through the uh airport with my four thousand dollars in buffalo nickels you think i might
be able to make that happen four $4,000 of who?
Buffalo nickels.
You know what? It's really no point.
We in 2025, right?
And if you paid attention,
technology is so advanced,
they've made transactions very
easy where you can use apps and you can
transfer people money instantly.
Oh, Joe.
Yeah.
I really don't,
I don't feel comfortable
doing anything.
I mean, last time I tried
to do something with technology,
you see what it got me?
So I've,
I've stayed away from technology.
I've been on drain
my entire bank account
and put all my money
in somebody else's account.
So, uh,
no. So, me
and apps,
I'm done with apps.
Well, listen, I'll tell you what.
I'll tell you what.
I'll tell you what.
You have a team of people
that you can trust. You said, I can't send it to Ash,
I can't send it to Jordan, I can't send it to
anybody else on your team.
How about you tell Michelle
let me send Michelle
a 4,000.
I send Michelle a 4,000 and
she'll give it to you.
Nah.
You know what? I'm going to see if Shelly got
cash out.
There we go. Or Apple Pay. Either one. 4lly got cash out. Oh, there we go.
Or Apple Pay.
Either one.
$4,000.
And it'd be over there like this. No, no, no, no.
$5,200.
What?
$5,200?
What?
OBJ didn't get a thousand-yard receiver from Tampa.
I mean, from Miami.
Oh, so you're going to Tampa?
No, for the Dolphins.
And I want $200.
I want $200 in I want 200 in interest
oh yeah
that was my idea
yeah
well thank you
I appreciate that
yeah that was my idea
okay cool
bet
oh I got it
I got it George
I got it
bet
no problem
you know
that ain't nothing
that ain't nothing to it boss
man you know
Ocho
Steelers fans
bet
who's your favorite player
Hines Ward or AB
right now
Hines Ward is winning
55% to 45%
hold on
wait a minute
wait
wait
wait a minute
hold on
now
first off
I need to understand
how many Steelers fans
we have in the chat.
You went and said, put it to the chat.
I told you let's have Steelers fans.
But you said, no, we have a multitude of fan bases in the chat.
So it might not be enough.
Ocho, see, you looking at it from a different lens.
You think I'm saying who's the better player.
I said who's your favorite player, Hines Ward or AB?
And I guarantee you,
if you took a poll of just Steelers fans,
I guarantee you Hines Ward will win.
Okay.
Listen,
there's one thing about Steelers fans.
Matter of fact,
if you ask Steelers fans
who their favorite receiver
between AB, Hines Ward, and Ocho,
they're going to pick Ocho.
You know why?
Because they love me and and I love them,
and I've always been respectful,
and I gave them entertainment.
Look, they love Hines, boy.
Because Hines is the embodiment of a stealer.
Oh, yeah.
He had to be a fan.
Yeah.
He'll be hardworking.
Yeah.
Everything, lunch, wear a hard hat,
go to work, work long hours. That's him. And he lunch, wear a hard hat, go to work,
work long hours.
That's him.
And he did everything
with a smile.
He did,
he did everything
with that goddamn smile.
With that two little
ass helmet on his head.
Squeezing the shit,
squeezing the you know what
out of his face.
But I tell you what,
boy,
I would thump the hell out of you
right
knock you clean out
I don't know
hold up bro
did he not think
Ocho
that
you put this thing
they not gonna see
that crocodile thing
in his back
the whole skull
in the backpack
but when you think about it
we just talk about
we talk about
what do you call that when you have the deer and the antelope, the stuff?
Yeah.
What do you call that?
Yeah.
I mean, is there anything wrong with traveling with something like this?
Yes, because that's an endangered species and it's protected and you shouldn't have it.
They sell those in stores. Yeah, but that's not so that was a live gator that he probably killed
and chopped his head off and he's protected and you don't they don't have endangered species
in the store okay well i i didn't know that i don't i didn't know it's like certain birds
it's certain mammals.
It's certain things that are endangered and protected
and normal and a regular civilian can't possess it.
I wonder where this was at.
I wonder where this is at.
Because, listen, I could walk outside right now.
Oh, okay.
You were going to Canada.
Or India.
Oh, it was in India.
So, you know, they got an abundance of crocodiles.
Okay, now that's understandable.
That's understandable.
Now, I'm thinking about here in Miami, alligators.
I'm not sure what we have here.
Alligators or crocodiles.
Oh, they're everywhere.
Yeah, but alligators used to be on the endangered species list.
And they protected them.
And see, now they have an abundance of them.
Yeah, now they're everywhere.
The reason why they're not everywhere
is because as you expand the land,
you expand it encroaching on the habitat.
Where the hell are they going to go?
Y'all keep building on marshland
and keep building and building and building.
That's why they're in your swimming pool.
That's why they're in your front yard
eating your pets
and doing all that other stuff.
They ain't got no choice.
What'd you say, eating your pets? Yes, if if you keep if you keep it's just like anything if i build keep building further
and further in the woods eventually i'm gonna run into bear and bobcat and all that other kind of
stuff it's just i would love that man love what i would i think i think one time be you should
allow me to experience what it's like to be in the
country i think you and i we should we should take some take a video and go out in the woods
and record you and i out in the woods you know with with dangerous animals bears and coyotes
lions all that i grew up in the country and saw Bobcats and saw
all that stuff and rattlesnakes. I'm good,
Ocho. I'm good on that. No, I'm just
saying that would be great content for us.
Like, Unc and Ocho
take on the wilderness.
Like,
I'm going to give you a camera and I'll let you do it.
And then Ocho, and then Unc
edits Ocho in the wilderness.
You got to live, man. You gotta live, man.
You not living, man.
Up, you alive,
but you ain't living.
Chat, when y'all tell this, man,
I grew up in...
See, here's the thing.
You want me to do stuff
I've already done
for the first 20 years of my life.
That's what you not understand.
It is you can go back
to what you know.
You can pass on your expertise to me
and your experience when we are in the wood we're in the wilderness like me and you we
could be perched up in a tree we can see a grizzly bear you realize bears can climb trees right
right that's the exciting part about it ain't nothing exciting about that
listen we in a tree and a grizzly bear can get up there
so what do we do next
well I'm going to have a gun I'm going to shoot him
that's what I'm going to do
that's the whole point
that is great content
look if you are threatened
I mean a lot of places
the bear is protected
now they do have places where you can hunt
you have a certain time of year I think that you can hunt
but nah I ain't really trying to I ain't really trying to go back oh man you
not man that we could have a whole we could have a whole nature show man think about it
uncle no joke it takes on the will i'm like i'm telling you man, that'd be crazy gold. You teach me how to fish.
Okay, now we can do that.
I can do that.
No, you teach me how to skin it.
And, you know, we hunt squirrels and raccoons and stuff like that.
And then we work our way up to bigger animals.
Right.
Well, all you got to do, look, all you got to do if you're going to dress the animal, you hang the animal upside down.
I mean, look, ain't nobody casing out no squirrel. So you basically
you split him down the back and you pull.
Just like you're taking off
your shirt and you pull your
pants down, you take your shirt off. That's how you do
a squirrel down the back. Now, if you
casing out an animal...
And it's the capture. Not only are we
stuck in the woods, we don't get
to eat unless we catch it.
You are not the person I want to be stuck in the woods we don't get to eat unless we catch it we got it you are not the
person i want to be stuck in the woods because you don't know ish so i don't want to be stuck
in the woods with you you just said you have 20 years of experience being in the country but you
don't know how to make a fire you don't know how to build nothing whoa whoa time out i smoke cigars
i don't need to know how to make a fire if I have my goddamn lighter on me.
I thought the whole point
that you wanted to go into fame,
that you wanted to experience nature.
You're not allowed to have a lighter.
I want to hunt.
I was a Cub Scout.
No.
I was a Cub Scout.
You see what happened in LA?
I was a Cub Scout.
I know how to start a fire.
Some jack leg,
some jack leg thought it would be a great idea.
No, I'm not going nowhere with you with no lighter.
Look, we could go.
We'll take a rock.
We'll take a what you call them?
A flint.
We'll get it started.
Yeah.
We'll do that.
Well, you listen.
I don't need a flint.
I know how to do it with two rocks.
Two rocks and a twig.
Two rocks and a twig. Two rocks and a twig.
Now, I was a league Cub scout.
I was a league Cub scout.
Scouts honor.
Scouts honor.
You're about to play for a baseball team named the Cubs.
That's about the extent of it.
No, listen, I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
Oh, I like that quote. that oh you didn't win the question
okay all right all right don't show now it's time for our final signal of the evening it's time for
q and a god damn we leave it already i'm feeling good tonight boy hey chat y'all good
we need to go down to coach prime lake and beat truck coach prime fishing
yeah like you gotta throw them back.
You don't get to keep them now.
That's fine. That's fine.
As a matter of fact, we can have a contest.
We can weigh them. Whoever has the heaviest
one, we have
a little challenge. Put a little
money in the pot. You don't even know how to fish.
Who? I know I don't.
Oh, Lord.
Man.
Lord. Call. Lord.
Adam Yoncourt said,
what's up, Uncle Nocho?
Call me AD.
Just want to let y'all know
I received my rope package.
Just popped one by
to get busy soon.
My wife in trouble.
She said, what's that?
I said, don't worry.
Y'all what I'm talking about.
Don't even worry about it.
Don't nobody move
with me though, baby.
That's it.
That's it.
Order the Times of 29. That's it. That's it. Part of the
time of the 29th.
October 24th,
1929.
Looking up, it was a Thursday.
Woo!
That's what I'm
talking about. That's what I'm talking about.
But you're not supposed to let her know you
got it. You got to...
Yeah. One's supposed to let her know you got it. You got to pop. Yeah. Wasn't supposed to say nothing.
Nothing at all.
Just give it that work.
Take a house your baby.
You do anything for it?
You know what I'm saying?
Don't even talk to me.
I'm going to catch you in a minute.
You're going to
touch every corner in this house.
Every corner.
Make you think I was 17 again.
Yo, DG, shout out to the
Bingus for winning the Triple Crown flight.
Yeah, Bingus for winning the Triple Crown.
Flight, hotel, rental car. Block also. Take care of your butt. for winning the Triple Crown. Fly. You got people winning the Triple Crown. Fly.
Hotel.
Rent-a-car.
Block also.
Take care of your butt.
Take your butt out with your check
like the NFL.
He's used to it.
We'll talk.
We'll see about them.
In fact,
let me look at the schedule.
Let me see what time
they play tomorrow.
Oh, so you got flocking
that Raven. You. That's Raven.
You're not a Raven.
This man be hating.
I'm not hating.
I'm just telling you.
I'm just telling you.
Absolutely.
Keep talking with your ears, Jay.
Ocho, I am a Raven.
I was.
Buffalo.
Huh?
No, you was there for two years. come on man was it not a good two years
if you was married you were married for 12 years right then y'all get divorced and you go date this
other chick for two years?
Nah. I'm a part of what started the culture for the Ravens.
Nah, you are a
Denver Bronco.
And I mean that with the utmost respect.
But it better.
I'm just telling you.
I think I'm going to wear my Raven Super Bowl ring
at the Super Bowl.
Why would you do that?
Because that would signify that I was Raven.
Don't you have a Broncos Super Bowl ring?
I got two.
I got one.
I gave one to my brother.
Okay.
So, you know, you got extra.
You give stuff away.
You know what I'm saying?
I got an extra pair of shoes.
I give one to somebody That's in me
That's what little brothers do
They take care of you know
Cool
Well since
Okay
How about you cancel my debt
And pretend you said it
Hey didn't you hear
President Biden
say he's abandoning
paying off student loans
yeah
you gotta run me that
oh so
so they
oh so they lied to everybody
hey
they were the first round
that got taken care of
it's this other round
that ain't gonna get
taken care of
yeah
they probably
they probably
picking chose
who they took care of I don't know what it is.
I'm picking and choosing too. You owe me.
Play up, Pook. That's fine.
Devin Jones say, once a
Ravens, always a Raven. It's about
Raven history and up in it.
Yeah, alright.
You got your little fans in the chat supporting
you. You know, even
though you was there for such a short amount of
time.
That's cool. on you. Even though you was there for such a short amount of time. Ocho, you can snap a look at me.
That's cool.
Raven's got a great memory. You know that?
Raven's got a great memory, Ocho.
Somebody might do something to a raven and the raven won't forget it
and he passes it along to the other ravens.
Right.
Okay.
Honestly, I think I'm more Raven to you though
huh
I'm more Raven to you
you're blacker than me but that's about it
I ain't even play for the Ravens
I'm more Raven to you
how you figure
because just
the rivalry and the fun
and the entertainment in which I
was able to give the Raven fans,
I'm more Raven than you.
I gotta figure out how you figure
I actually played for the Ravens.
I actually won a championship with the Ravens.
And somehow you played for the...
I played for the Bengals,
but I'm still
so Raven because of just
what I brought to those...
No, no, no. Mm-mm. Mm- no no no no you're not a raven i'm sorry
no and we're not gonna even adopt you uh tony br said sharp oh you got two teams any team uh
on uh oh that's your team even if it's a practice squad. Yeah, I played with two teams, the Broncos and the Ravens.
All right, I'm going to let you have it.
You got it.
How you going to let me have it?
I did.
You're a Raven.
You know, the chat agrees with you.
That's fine.
That's fine.
So let me ask you a question.
So is Deion a Falcon or a Cowboy?
That's a good one.
Okay, well, give me a good answer? That's a good one. Okay, well,
give me a good answer.
That's a good one.
I think,
based on where he played,
what in the amount of years
he played on each team,
like, somewhat the same?
And he went to San Francisco
and won a championship
in San Francisco.
So is he not a 49er too?
Listen, man,
we talking about you.
They put all the teams
you play for on the plat
alright you're a raven
thank you
you're a raven with a little
asterisk right by it
uh
uh
said hey uh I got my grip
socks from the hospital
hey
hey you got the hospital oh you know them socks they give you at the hospital and abolish it. Hey, you got the hospital grip on
them.
Oh, you know them socks they give you at the hospital?
So you stand up and don't slip?
They got the grip on them.
I got some of them upstairs.
Upstairs?
I do.
But when I had my surgery on my hips.
Oh, you still got them?
Yeah.
I told them to get an extra pair. I knew they were going to come in handy. my surgery on my hips. Oh, you still got her? Yeah. Okay.
I told them to get an extra pair.
I knew they were going to come in handy.
And plus, for $125,000,
they should have gave me
a case of them.
Dab Smith said,
I believe Ravens are going
to the Super Bowl
with this version of Lamar
and because they have
a close in Henry,
he can win a game by himself.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Look,
they get the last four minutes of the ball game, this is what
you got Derrick Henry for.
Don't let him get the ball back.
He can run the air out of it.
Yeah.
And when
they start gearing up putting eight
men on the line of scrimmage lamar kevin and come out the back side so we got a counter to your
counter we're just gonna see how y'all playing it okay lamar read it. They crashed, take Derek Henry away to the backside for that inside zone read,
pull it.
You saw them,
they read it like four times
in a row.
They pulled it each time
because the end kept crashing.
And when they hesitated,
Henry hit his head
on the goalpost
right up the middle.
Isaiah Lancaster said, Uncle Nocho, where would you rank all time if you won a third
MVP and a Super Bowl
with Super Bowl MVP
and for the media labor
Herbert as elite
and he was never
and he was off for the day
three MVPs
Super Bowl MVP high five He was off for the day. Three MVPs.
Super Bowl MVP.
Top five.
Top five.
Probably so.
Yeah.
Top five.
Probably so, Ocho.
It's going to be nothing else.
It's going to be close to five because you'd have Brady.
You'd have Montana.
You'd have Mahomes. you'd have Payton,
you'd have Rodgers.
So I don't know if he'd be six.
I don't know if you'd put him in the top five because you got Manny with five MVPs, two Super Bowls,
and a Seabull MVP.
You got Rodgers with four MVPs, a Super Bowl MVP.
You got Joe with three and three.
Brady's seven.
And you got Mahomes.
So he knocking at the door.
Oh, yeah.
He goes from maybe 10, 11, all the way to right near the top five quarterbacks of all time.
Yeah.
And he's 28 years of age.
With more to do.
That's great.
Jones was saying,
can we talk about the Texas
where beating the Chiefs is going to happen?
Possible.
You're going to have to play better than you played.
I mean, if you played like you played the second half, you got chance it'll make a good game that's a different animal now yeah different
animal different defense that's a the playoff chiefs are different than the chiefs that you
faced in the regular season that guy that's a big game One five, he knows how to get it done.
Andy, he knows how to call plays.
Spags knows how to attack your quarterback.
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Buffs Basement says Steelers organization got to look at themselves and ask if mediocrity enough, because that's what they are.
I move on from Tomlin.
Enough is enough.
Ocho.
That's tough.
That's tough that's tough I mean 17-18 years
of consistency
of winning seasons
that's tough
and
listen a situation like that
when it comes to the police
and what Mike Tomlin has done
and been for the Steelers in general
I would let him make that decision
I would let Mike Tomlin make done and been for the Steelers in general, I would let him make that decision. You know,
I would,
I would let Mike Tomlin make that decision.
Yeah.
I mean,
I just,
just,
just based on the question,
the question that was asked,
you know,
Oh,
can I ask you a question?
Yes,
sir.
Uh,
is there,
is there Henry Raven?
He's a Tennessee tightener.
Okay.
You check it.
I know he's having a phenomenal season.
He's having, I'm just checking.
I'm just checking.
When he, when he, when he, when he hangs it up, he's a Tennessee type.
So that man go there, he run for 1900 yards, all pro, uh, help get a team to the Superbowl.
He could easily be, he on the bar.
That had nothing to do with the
tenure that he had in Tennessee
all those years.
So if a guy works at one organization
for 10 years and works at another organization
so if I work at Apple
for 10 years and then I go work at Google
for three years, I'm not a Google employee.
I mean, do you really count that?
No, you're an Apple employee
okay
AJ Zabor said Ocho is definitely
my favorite receiver between Hyde and AB
some people speculating if
Pickens even knows
what optimistic means lol
did the media ever use
unfamiliar words with you as a player
nah I mean obviously with the media I was the one using the big words unfamiliar words with you as a player? No.
Obviously with the media, I was the one using
the big words.
If you haven't noticed, if you've seen my
spelling,
that was
my expertise.
How many
years will Saquon need to be
at the Eagles to be considered an Eagle
he's a New York Giant
okay
I'm just checking
I'm just
I'm just making a show
because I listen
continuity
he's a New York Giant
they didn't want him though
I mean listen
I've been in situations
where people didn't want me
okay Nate Harper said hey Uncle Nocho what do you think I mean, listen, I've been in situations where people didn't want me.
Okay.
Nate Harper said, hey, Elgin Ocho, what do you think of a wedding blueprint for the Eagles against the Packers tomorrow?
Love you guys.
It's going to be a good game, boy.
Yeah.
That's going to be.
And the blueprint for the Eagles is put the ball in 26 belly.
And when you do throw the ball,
get it to AJ Brown and get it to Devontae Smith.
Allow the run game to open up the pass game.
Now that's something you really wouldn't say in today's game
because it's the pass-happy league.
Take some of the pressure off Hurts.
Let's say Kwon do what he does.
At some point, they're going to have to bring that safety on down
and it's going to be one-on-one on the outside.
You got two receivers that can
be man-to-man, whether it's
press or whether it's off.
Just
make throws.
Make throws. That's it.
Simple.
Filthy McNasty, your Uncle Nocho,
grabs to the Texans and Ravens. Question,
how did you deal with fear before a game?
Also, any chance we can see Jordan and Ash?
Thanks for all you and Ocho do.
Fly, Eagles, fly.
I don't think with fear.
I mean, obviously, you'll have nerves.
I mean, you get a queezing in your stomach,
and you're like, look.
You're like, whoo.
That's a big game.
I mean, it happens.
If you don't feel nerves, the game ain't big enough.
Nah.
Matter of fact, if you don't feel nerves at all,
that means your love for the game is gone.
Yep.
Those butterflies before kickoff.
And I got them in preseason.
Always.
Always.
Nerves as hell. And then I don't calm down
until I touch the ball.
I don't calm down until I touch
the ball. So there's a certain
nervousness and
ah, that's weird. It's such a crazy
feeling that I haven't had
since I left the game.
Nothing replaces the game.
Nothing replaces the game. There's nothing
that, I mean, you try, I mean, that's why guys,
you know, they try to play golf.
They gamble.
They, you know, they pick up hobbies,
but ain't nothing that
competitive that you've been doing. Think about
how long you played the sport.
Right. I mean,
even if you only
picked it up in high school,
you didn't play like I played.
I started playing when I was nine.
I played competitive tackle football for 26 years.
I retired at 35.
What was I going to do?
Think about it.
I had played football, damn it, as long as I've been alive.
Five, yeah.
What am I going to replace that with?
Doing what?
Nathaniel. No. five yeah what am i gonna replace that with doing what nathaniel no it even even if i'm playing golf it's competitive but that guy ain't trying to hit me over his head
with his club he's not trying to block me my ball from going in the hole yeah in the football field
that guy was stopping trying to stop me from doing my job right Right. So it's hard.
You have to catch us
in the airport.
And you got to be real fast because I have to be running.
Cal Simpson said,
Sup, Uncle Nocho. Been a
fan since Uncle Goose
I knew by restitution.
Would y'all rather see my homeboy win the first
ever three-peat or the amazing
win his
first one? I'm pulling for Lamar.
I'm pulling for Lamar, too.
I've said it multiple
times. I only want Lamar
if he goes through my home to do it.
I don't care who he go through. I just want to see
him win. He got to go through the big dog.
I don't want somebody to knock... I don't want my home go through. I just want to see him win. He got to go through the big dog. I don't want Mahomes to get knocked out before.
And as they will see, he ain't have to face Mahomes
because you know Mahomes is cripped tonight.
Yeah.
I mean, think about it.
And all this time, the man knocked you out last year.
That means you would have to go to get your revenge.
You'd have to go to his house.
Right. I got to go to get your revenge. You'd have to go to his house. Right.
I got to go to your house, Ocho.
That's what
that's what, uh, think about it.
That's what my homeboy did.
Lamar was the MVP last year.
He went to his home.
Did that.
That's what made Brady, think about Brady.
Brady's going to people's
home
and did this
he went to my home
boy home
and did that
he went to Rogers home
and did that
yeah
yeah he did
it's a little
something special
when you go to you
and you take your show
hey
we used to say
they got to take this
show on the road
but oh man Hey, we used to say, they got to take this show on the road.
Oh, man.
Repeat.
Probably won't ever see it again.
I don't think you'll ever see it again, Ocho.
If it don't happen now,
because like I said,
the 49ers got the closest.
They won back-to-back, lost an NFC Championship game to the Giants with Roger Craig fumbling the football, and they kick a field goal.
You know what, Cal?
I'm going to answer this when they play.
If they lock horns in two weeks, I got your answer.
Hey.
Hey.
Yeah. I got something funny. Hey. Hey. Yeah.
I got something funny.
What's that? You want to hear it? Yeah.
Hey, chat, y'all listening?
Pay attention when I say this, okay? You ready, huh?
Yeah. Y'all hear me, Jordan?
Why is 69
afraid of 70?
Why, Ocho?
Because they fought
in 71.
Lord have mercy.
Huh? Yeah, I can tell you got a nap
today, huh?
Hey, chat, don't let Ocho sleep no more y'all call
and wake his ass up
Patterson Yanzi said Uncle Ocho
it's been 10 years
to the day since Dan's caught it
we still haven't recovered
Ocho did Dan catch it?
That was a catch against the Cowboys.
He made two steps, two steps,
and if anything, it would have been a fumble and a touchdown
because he rolled into the end zone.
By the letter of the law,
that was the Megatron.
Because remember, Megatron caught the same play against the Bears, and was the Megatron. Because remember,
Megatron caught the same play
against the Bears.
And he tried to get up.
He caught it and tried to get up.
And tried to get up using the ball.
Using the ball.
And they said no.
So once they said,
once he replayed it,
and I saw,
I said no,
because in the rule,
the way the rule is written,
don't you know,
if you leave your feet
and go to the ground right you
must maintain possession of the ball through the entirety of the act in other words get your ass
off the guy that had the ball to the rim they later reworked the rule because hold on hold on
who caught the ball today oh durbin james James interception. Oh, Cho, I'm thinking, what's the
difference between that interception and the one the Rams
had last week?
I didn't see the ball hit the ground anyway.
I didn't either.
I didn't either.
But, hey.
So,
Don Mines Mines
Hey Uncle Note, y'all heard the
convo about Ed Reed and Troy
as an Eagle fan, what do y'all rank
B-Dog during that era?
That's a good one
I know Troy and Ed is
1A, 1B, depending on, you can switch it either way
depending on what you want, whatever your preference
may be, but those two are at the top
now I'm not sure
that was a good era for football because you had John Lynch
in that era, you had
Darren Woodson in that era
you had B-Dog, obviously you had
Ed and Troy
that was really a golden era for
for the safety position
yeah
I would put B-Dog behind
like I said Ed for me
is the greatest safety I've ever seen
greatest safety I ever broke down
but I would put him behind there.
I wouldn't put B-Dog in front of Ronnie.
People forget about Ronnie Locke.
Ronnie first year, Ronnie played corner.
Ronnie played corner.
Yeah.
And I think he had,
Ronnie might have had 10 picks.
I think he was an all pro at corner.
We have to look that up.
Because Ronnie came out in 81.
Ronnie was in that draft with,
uh,
uh,
uh,
Kenny easily,
uh,
uh,
Dennis Smith,
Lawrence Taylor,
single Terry,
all of them was in a Ricky Jack.
All of them was in that 81 draft.
Yeah.
And that's crazy.
So Singletary was defensive player
of the year. Kenny Eason was defensive player of the year.
Ronnie was defensive player of the year.
Obviously LT was three-time defensive
player of the year.
Right.
You looking it up?
Oh, you did.
Q March 22nd. I just want to shout my wife out
Roshanna Marshall
I love her and couldn't do this journey
called life without her
Roshanna
Q wanted to shout you out
said you know what
he wouldn't want to do this journey with anybody else
other than you
so you've been walking with him side by side.
And there's sometimes he saw two sets of footprints,
you and God,
because he was not carrying himself.
So Roshana,
thank you for being down.
We appreciate you.
I like that,
huh?
I like how you added that in there.
Two sets of footprints,
yours and God.
I like that.
I'm going to use that.
I'm going to use that.
Oh, thank you
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