Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Reaction to Lamont Roach vs. Tank Davis + comedy legend Earthquake joins

Episode Date: March 9, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Lamont Roach Jr.'s draw decision vs. Gervonta "Tank" Davis, Comedy legend Earthquake joining the show, and much more!04:00 - Tank vs. R...oach fight23:50 - Man clowned for gifting Honda Civic to woman28:33 - Comedian Earthquake joins the show44:15 - Reward for being a good father?(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:10 knockdown however the fight continued without Roach being credited with knocking Davis down Davis said during the post-fight interview in the ring that he got a hair uh he got his hair done Thursday and the grease from the hair was burning his eyes hairstylist denies putting a lot of grease on the hair especially i did his hair wednesday it's saturday he did press jim wait that's not an excuse how much grease did how much grease did i use damn she's like uh-uh you're in for the mess of my business yeah yeah you got you got hey listen you had to be careful with that with that answer because obviously because she's the one that does this here her clientele has shot up because she's the one that does this here now you come out and say something like that you're the reason why now that's gonna mess up business up so she
Starting point is 00:04:58 got to come out and defend herself absolutely right away she has to now obviously watching the fight watching the punch i don't think think, I think he surprised him. I think he surprised him with the punch and hit him in the wrong spot, the wrong place, and they caught him by surprise and they called him to go down. I'm just saying, honestly. Who, Roach? Yeah, Roach caught him by surprise. I didn't see, I didn't think he got hit. You don't think so?
Starting point is 00:05:24 He got hit? Yeah. I don't see I didn't think he got hit. You don't think he got hit? I don't think so. But regardless, when you take a knee, if you go back and look at when Floyd Mayweather fought Cruz, I think what was it 2001? And he hit him on the button and he hurt his hand and he took a knee. Yeah. And he started he's like, no, I just started to take the 10 count. Yeah, you can't take a knee. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:44 So if they give him that point, he wins the fight. He's like, no, I just started to count. Yeah, you can't take a knee. Yeah. So if they give him that point, he wins the fight. Yeah. He wins the fight. Hey, listen, them boys were going at it, boy. Them boys were going at it. I think it was a part that I really enjoyed. Obviously, you know, boxing is about, you know, moving around. And there was a point where Tank and Roach decided, you know what?
Starting point is 00:06:10 We tied right now. We finna sit here in the pocket and we finna bang. Man. I mean, just exchange. Boy, them boys were throwing, boy. Roach didn't back down. At all. At all.
Starting point is 00:06:23 And did you see the size difference in the ring? Obviously, Roach being, you know. At all. At all. And did you see the size difference in the ring? Obviously, Roach being the bigger man. Roach came up. Roach normally fights at 130. He came up to 135. What? They look huge in the ring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Either way. Listen, they got a rematch. They got a rematch. That fight was good. And obviously, a lot of people, I've seen a lot of boxers come out and say, they got a rematch. They got a rematch. That fight was good. And obviously a lot of people, I've seen a lot of boxers come out and say, you know, Tank lost that fight. I think the fight was good. I think when I looked at the scorecard, I think maybe going into round seven,
Starting point is 00:06:56 maybe seven or eight, maybe seven, I think Tank was up on the scorecard for that matter. But Lamar Rose, he had always Lamont Roach had always been good. He had always been good. And he had the right style. The styles make fights. And Lamont Roach's style made that fight what it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:15 What it is. It's a... And he made no mistakes, too, all night. Yeah. I mean, look, Tank was trying to... Tank hit it with good couple of good shots yeah but he moved hey and he started countering yeah he would count it right back right back right back and you know the straight right through the uh the guard uh through a a southpaw because
Starting point is 00:07:39 that's what tank is a southpaw fighter yeah hey that jab hey he kept him up off him he didn't back down and you know normally tank starts slow comes on yeah yeah i'm here to stay yeah he said i'm here for a long time and a good time i ain't going nowhere i'm not sure what kind of conditioning lamont rose did but whatever it is i salute. Because everyone else at some point past round seven, normally when fighting Tank, they die down. They die down. Their volume of punching decreases. Everybody gets tired after round seven and on.
Starting point is 00:08:16 But his condition was up to par. They went to war all 12 rounds. That was a really weird thing. But me, I thought Roach won the fight. I did, Ocho. If they count that knockdown, yes. I thought even without the knockdown, I thought he won it. I thought he had, I mean, look, I know Tank landed punches,
Starting point is 00:08:42 but Roach was the more aggressive fighter. Yeah, I mean, being the aggressive fighter, did you see the scorecard, though? Yeah, I saw the scorecard. Yeah, so, I mean, it's tough. It's tough. Listen, a great fight from both fighters. Now, to me, fight next, I would like to see them rematch at some point.
Starting point is 00:09:09 I'm not sure if that's in the foreseeable future. I mean, it should be, obviously, if it was a draw. I would love to see Tank. What do the numbers say? The pay-per-view numbers are going to tell you if people want to see a rematch. Because if they came out and bought the fight, yeah, they'll get a rematch.
Starting point is 00:09:23 If it didn't do the numbers, I don't know. I think it did the numbers. If they didn't do the numbers, Ocho, no. I think it did the numbers. I think it definitely did the numbers. I mean, listen, it's Tank, huh? He's the draw. He's the draw. They coming to watch.
Starting point is 00:09:37 They coming to watch. I mean, listen, I'm excited. I can't wait to see him fight Shakur. But everybody had a lot to say. But everybody had a lot to say. Shakur had a lot to say. What's his name? Tank. Haney had a lot to say. Bud.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Bud had a lot to say. Yeah. But I think you do realize, Ocho, what this does is that it gives fighters like Eric, because everybody knows Tank got power. Now they're like, okay, I want to fight him. Shakur's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:10:12 let's make this fight happen. He's talking about Bud looking at Canelo. Bud ain't looking to drop no weight. The only fight Bud can make is Canelo. That's a big jump to go up three three weight classes huge jump that's huge i mean normally somebody go up a weight class maybe two right because uh uh roy jones yeah roy was super middle but Roy was fighting at was fighting at a
Starting point is 00:10:45 light heavy so he went up from cruiser to heavy but that's going to be a good one though that's going to be good I mean but I just I thought Tank when you know you got to the
Starting point is 00:11:01 middle round don't you you got around like four and five like okay here come Tank here come well he steps on the gas after round four he normally steps on the gas that comes forward just in general but also you got to understand at this level of elite boxing like that you got to be careful especially when you're exchanging one shot boy you gone yeah hey listen one shot, boy, you're gone. Yeah. Hey, listen, one shot, you're gone. So us as fans watching from the outside looking in, you know, you want them to just get in there and just throw and just – but, hey, it's a chess match.
Starting point is 00:11:34 You got to be careful. You make one mistake, you're going to sleep. You're going to sleep. Well, the little guys, what they do is they put – but see, that's – they put punches together yeah as you go up in weight class them the ones that turn the lights out with one fight now still even at the smaller weight class they catch you with a punch you don't see they can turn your lights out yeah oh you can't you can't be punches or it's a wrap yeah they catch you throwing a punch you throw one, and they get through quick.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Or the one hitter quitted the overhand that you don't see until it's too late. Yeah. Or the uppercut that you never see because it's coming from the blind spot. Blind spot. So that's why, you know, you look at Tyson. Tyson was always to the body. Ah, pop, and he coming through. He coming through the guard.
Starting point is 00:12:24 He coming through the guard. Tyson going to bang the body. You know it's going to come. You know it's coming. Stop it if you can. But it was a good fight, Ocho. I don't normally pay for fights, but I said, you know what? Let me see what's really going on.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Because I know we're going to talk about it. I want to see Tank. I want to see Roach. Tank bet him a quarter of a mil that he was going to get him out of there. Roach said, no, you won't. So it's going to be interesting to see if they have a rematch. Yeah, I mean, they have to, huh? But look, there's enough fighters
Starting point is 00:12:58 in that class. You got Lomachenko. You got Shakur. You got Haney. You got Garcia. You got Tank. You got Roach. Come on, man. Make these damn fights happen. Stop ducking and dodging each other. What the?
Starting point is 00:13:10 They got some good ones coming up now. There's a whole card with T.O., T.O., Ryan Garcia, and Devin Haney coming up. Yeah. There's a whole card. No, they should be fighting each other. See, that's why people don't give the credit. Because you remember back in the 80s when they had the Four Kings? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Hearns fought Leonard. He fought Hagler. He fought Duran. Duran fought those guys. And then you've got the Fifth Horseman. You had Iran Barkley. Those guys fight. Go back and look at the 70s.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And you look at the heavyweights. When you had Norton. You had Frazier. You had Foreman, you had Ernie Shavers, you had all those guys. They fought. Right. I love Floyd, but I hate what Floyd did to the game of boxing
Starting point is 00:13:57 because everybody's trying to protect that O. Ain't nobody want to take no chances because they feel now if I take a chance, I lose. Ocho, my career. Bro, stop it. But Floyd fought everybody. He fought everybody on his term. This is the point.
Starting point is 00:14:14 When you're winning like that, you get to call your shots on your term. Everybody ain't going to beat Floyd. Even if you end up undefeated, you're not going to beat Floyd. Yeah. That's what they're thinking. I'm trying to think. Then all the fights. All the fights, too.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Obviously, you want to see all the fighters fight each other. But also, they have to keep building it up to maximize the person which they can get. You can't just fight just to fight just because everybody wants to see you fight. You got to wait. You got to build it up. You got to get some fights in. You got to create some type of chaos, some type of the goddamn turmoil. Lomachenko has done
Starting point is 00:14:48 enough. Shakur Stevens has done enough that they should be able to get in the ring with Devontae, with Devontae, with Tate. Hey, it's not that easy, though. It ain't that easy. I mean, the way you say it, you know, for us on the outside looking in, like,
Starting point is 00:15:04 forget it. Make it happen. But the money got to be right. The money right, Ocho. The fact of the matter is, this is what Camilo, this is what guys do. Instead of taking a risk at $20 million, they rather fight somebody they know they can beat for $10. That's how they doing it, Ocho. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:19 People see what they doing. That's why UFC has surpassed them. Because Dana White ain't let you dunk nobody. And see, you got the WBA. You got the Ring Magazine. The WBO. The IBF. You got all these sanctioning bodies.
Starting point is 00:15:37 You got too many belts. Man, fight. What you getting the sport for? I mean think about ojo if sports if sports was really like that you know what you know camp says like nah we don't want to play philly y'all send somebody else to the super bowl over that hey that's that's that's what these guys doing they ducking i like you put it that way but um at that level, at the elite level, you have to be careful. You have to build your resume. You want to maximize the title.
Starting point is 00:16:13 You don't think Lopez don't have the resume to be able to fight Tank? Torfiba? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so what you're saying, build a resume. So he don't have a resume right now that's impeccable enough to fight it what about your course stevens his record ain't good enough but again we talk about purse you got to think about how they thinking they think about that bag they think about that money i don't want to fight you right now because financially it
Starting point is 00:16:40 doesn't make sense it doesn't it doesn't no all i'm saying't. It doesn't. No, all I'm saying is, man, you got to fight what people loved about Sugar Ray. This is why boxers today don't get the love and the adulation that the old guys, because they fought, Ocho. Yeah, for no money, yeah. But look, go back and look at it. They are prize fighters.
Starting point is 00:17:07 That's what they are. Yes. We could want them to fight as much as you want, but I'm telling you what it come down to. What is my purse looking like? Ocho. Your purse looking like because you not fight nobody. They not getting no $1 million.
Starting point is 00:17:22 They not getting a million buys. They not getting 1.5 million buys like Floyd. So stop trying to think that you're going to beat Floyd. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, yeah. Well, you ain't going to never beat that because everybody was tuning in to watch Floyd lose. There's a difference. That's how he even got to that point. But look at Tyson.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I mean, go back and look at those guys. Those guys fought. You got to fight. At the end of the day, you gotta fight. You gotta fight. I want you to get your money. Ain't nobody gonna be tuning in to watch you box somebody.
Starting point is 00:17:54 They wanna see Lopez and Shakur. They wanna see Tank and Shakur or Lopez. Evan Haney, Ryan Garcia. Yeah, they wanna see fights like that. All those are great matches. But again, why is it so hard?
Starting point is 00:18:11 I see some people in the chat complaining, stop making excuses. Why is it so hard to get fights? Why do you think people don't want to send contracts? And when they do send a contract, they look at it and be like, I ain't fucking signing that shit. You ain't even paying me.
Starting point is 00:18:22 It all comes down to one thing at the end of the goddamn day, no matter what y'all say in the chat. I ain't fucking signing that shit. You ain't even paying me. It all comes down to one thing at the end of the goddamn day, no matter what y'all say in the chat. I ain't making no excuses. The purse ain't where it need to be. Why the purse isn't where it need to be? Because they don't want to see them jokers fight nobody. They want to see them fight the best,
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Starting point is 00:23:27 He fought Benitez. He fought Hagler. He fought Hearns. He fought Duran. Yeah. I mean, it's different. Hearns fought Hearns, Hagler. They fought.
Starting point is 00:23:38 You talk about in the 80s, the four kings. Yeah. The best. Go back and look at the 70s and look at those guys they fought yeah foreman ollie frazier norton shavers uh uh what's the uh the other guy there's another guy that george foreman just went and they went like eight rounds but they were just it wasn't it wasn't aesthetically pleasing yeah but Ocho they was throwing atomic bombs yeah isn't that trying to kill each other yes yes I'm speaking you have to think about it too now when I'm sitting here talking I'm listening to people in the chat but then you got to think about
Starting point is 00:24:22 I'm in camp with some of these folk man I'm listening to the conversations I'm in there literally you know why certain fights are getting made I'm in there with boots I've been in there with Kayla Plant Benavidez I done been in the camp with Taint the same I done been in the camp with Shakur
Starting point is 00:24:40 it's the same conversation the same thing over and over so when I'm saying stuff like this people say say, no, I'm not making excuses. I'm sitting there listening with my own two ears. I'm listening to what the issues are. Well, we can't make this fight because the money ain't what it should be. And why am I getting in, risking myself or risking the L or O or whatever it may be for every case? Because you in the fight game. Why get in the fight game? Every time you step in the fight game. Why get in the fight game every time you step in
Starting point is 00:25:06 the ring? There's a chance. There's always a puncher's chance, but I'm still telling you what it is. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Look here, until they start and that's why people just stop watching. You got to go all the
Starting point is 00:25:21 Saudis. They try to make fights in Saudi and in Dubai because the joke won't fight over here fight hmm it's so funny I see people in the chat about my I mean it was well documented everything I'm saying all you got to do it just type it in it's there but anyway any, it's all good. Man, I just want to see a fight. I just want to see good fights. Give me a high.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Man, Ocho, man, look. I done been to prize fights. Ain't nothing like it. No. Oh, man, that atmosphere. But ain't no, I mean, when the last time we had a, I mean, we got to go back to when Bud fought Earl Spence Jr. Ooh, that was nice. Jr. That was nice. Yes. I remember going
Starting point is 00:26:07 to see Tyson fight. Ain't nothing like a heavyweight now. Oh, no. Big time. Boy, Tyson back in his prime. Everybody came out. The world stopped. You hear me? But you better not go to the bathroom or get concession. You're going to miss it.
Starting point is 00:26:22 You're going to miss the fight. Oh, you missed it. You just spent 10 grand for nothing. Oh, yeah. But I want to see these guys fight. I think the chat want to see them fight, too. A man goes viral for buying his girl a Honda Civic for her birthday and gets clowned on social media.
Starting point is 00:26:42 A man goes viral buying his girl a honda civic for a birthday and gets clowned oh joe why are you alone honda civic is a good car i mean look at the y'all making seem like y'all making seem like the man on the athlete damn forget a hundred exhibit being a good car i mean you're getting the vehicle to give him point a to point b obviously you want to stay within your financial lane you don't want to get something that you're getting the vehicle to get from point A to point B. Obviously, you want to stay within your financial lane. You don't want to get something that you're not able to afford. You don't want to get something that you can't pay for. You can't make payments.
Starting point is 00:27:12 It's not that difficult, people. The man got something based on his salary and what he makes where he's comfortable helping his young lady out. That ain't hard. That ain't difficult to understand. It ain't. And the people,
Starting point is 00:27:26 the people, most of the time, the people making fun of it probably couldn't even do it themselves. They ain't got no car. They ain't got no car, Ocho. Man, don't get me started on that. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:27:35 but, but, and see, that's, that's why I know, that's why, you know, I've been talking to a lot of people. They say, the internet ain't real. Because, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:27:43 the internet will have you thinking like man i really need to get me another job look how these motherfucking living man they taking pictures you feel a thousand dollars just to go take a picture on a private jet you renting cars you renting home they got people thinking that's your creole for what just so you can impress somebody or you try to impress somebody that you never met yeah that guess what they don't care about you it's all about it's all about portraying a certain image on yes i mean that i mean they're not a whole lot of guys that that would be willing to buy their girl a car, even if it was a Honda Civic.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And she seemed just as happy because it was better than what she had, which was nothing. Nothing. It'd be better than catching a bus. Yeah, absolutely. They're going to try to shame the man, tell him I clowned the man on social media. Bro, put your arm around your lady.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Because a lot of jokers out there, man, I'm surprised they didn't call him a simp. Because you know you can't do nothing for your lady. For taking care of your lady? Yeah. Who does not be. Bro, you ain't got no girl. You simple because you ain't even got no girl.
Starting point is 00:29:09 But because you, man, I wouldn't do that for my lady. Y'all ain't going to tell me what to do for my lady. I'm going to do what the hell with her if I want. Absolutely. Every time. So, man, you a simp. Okay, and your point is? Y'all think they be thinking
Starting point is 00:29:27 they be hurting your feelings talking about that bro y'all ain't got no money and matter of fact y'all ain't got no you might have money and when you talk about I don't got to do all that
Starting point is 00:29:35 for my girl guess what somebody else is oh oh I don't even want to break no bad news I don't come to break no bad don't do that
Starting point is 00:29:42 I ain't gonna break no bad news to nobody with you all it take is you know Un, the funny thing about it, all it takes for her is to experience it from one person. Yes. Yes. One time. Oh, this is what it's like.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Oh, this is what I've been missing out on. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yes. Okay. Ocho, I mean, if I didn't play in the NFL, took care of my money, let's just say I'm a hardworking guy.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I work at a regular 9 to 5. 9 to 5, blue collar. Yeah, and I ain't blue collar, real, real blue. Yes, sir. But collar black because it's dirty because I'm working my ass off with you. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Yes, sir. I'm with you now.
Starting point is 00:30:20 And if I, yeah, I'm going to take care of my lady for sure. That's a part of it. always has been that's me now everybody everybody wired like you and I that we believe that that you know we should take care of those because you got to I won't yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna take care of mine damn what somebody else do I don't care what somebody else do for their lady. I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do for mine. Mine. So what you do, I'm cool. You don't want to take your girl, do this,
Starting point is 00:30:54 or you don't want to do that. I ain't finna judge you. I ain't finna look down at you. But I'm not going to make you feel bad because I can and you can't do for yours. Because that's what it comes down to, Ocho. A lot of guys can't do anything for their lady. And since they can't, they're going to try to make you feel bad that you can't do for yours. Because that's what it comes down to, Ocho. A lot of guys can't do anything for their lady. And since they can't, they're going to try to make you feel bad that you can. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Exactly. As a matter of fact, they're using the word simp. They're using it out of context. They're using it totally out of context. Now the guy that's in here talking, that's my dog right there. The one, the only, uh, I'll be real name.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Mama called him Nathaniel, but we call him earthquake. Great. What it do? Hey, what up? Oh, Joe,
Starting point is 00:31:35 what's up? What's up, baby? How you doing? Right. So blessed and highly favored. See, I had to put my real name because there. Because Trump is deporting people.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I had to let him know I'm fracking. I'm looking. I'm like, Nathaniel? Who the hell? Yeah. There ain't no time to be earthquake right now. It's hot in these streets. You got to keep your passport with you saying your real name.
Starting point is 00:32:01 You can't say, man, get deported, man. Can't get back in here. Wait, what's going on, bro? How you doing? Man, I'm so blessed. Holy favorite, man. I love the show, too, man. I appreciate it. Y'all do. Y'all have great chemistry. Man, look at it. And I'm proud of you. You know I'm proud of you.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Oh, yeah, man. We talk. I am proud of you. I don't really have a whole lot of close friends and people that I communicate with that I didn't play sports with. But Quake is one of the ones. I mean, I met Quake. I mean, I used to see him in Atlanta and come to his shows. But then I met him probably about nine years ago in the airport.
Starting point is 00:32:36 We fly to Red, I'm back to Atlanta. And we was in the Sky Club. And, man, we struck up a conversation. And, man, we've been down ever since, man. I mean, he's a good dude, real dude. Hey, there have been some times I had to call him up. I said, man, look here, let that go, man. Let that go.
Starting point is 00:32:55 He had to talk me off a cliff. He had to talk me off a cliff, Ocho. I tell him all the time, Ocho, laughing hates from the chief. Oh, yeah. I got it. Because I ain't coming off of this hill. I can't do it. I can't do it. That pole is hard on them.
Starting point is 00:33:10 They're going to have to do it by themselves. Oh, man. That's crazy. Craig, I wanted to ask you, man. Listen, I've been watching you over the years, man. You've been in comedy, man. You've been in the game for a long time, boss man. And I'm a fan.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I'm a huge fan. How has your comedic style evolved over the years, being that through each era, you know, you're not, what do you call it, your set, your sets have to change
Starting point is 00:33:37 based on your audience. Well, I always think as a true artist, your comedy should reflect the era that you're in. And that's why I'm saying it's so important now that everything we're going through, you can't have knock-knock jokes. This is the time to be the Richard Brat,
Starting point is 00:33:56 James Carlin, to be able to reflect. So you can have this longevity if you're relevant in the times that you're living. You know what I mean? So that's always been my key. I'm quick with it. I don't take a long time. And then I have a different delivery side, much like a preacher.
Starting point is 00:34:16 And I'm rapid fire. So, you know, I'm like McDonald's. I'm over a billion jokes told. So you just, you don't get no time to wait for me. I ain't got them long stories and waiting for earn pride type. You know what I mean? Just keep punching to the bell.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Quake, I remember you said one time what a true comic's job is, is to take real life events and make them funny. Oh yeah. A lot of times you talking about your prostate. You had to get your prostate checked. You take real life events, be it a dating situation.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Now, I think you're about to get... You done got married yet? Wait. I don't mean to put you... No, August 21st, man. I'm done. I'm going to send you an invite. We walk through the valley of death. A tree is no evil. With it.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Gotta get out them streets, bro. Hey, man. It's too dangerous, man. I'm following up right behind you. It's time to get out them streets, man. These old players better realize that's what they make sidewalks for. Get out the road. Get out the road. Get out the road.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Ain't like seeing an old man get hit by a car. Quake, let me ask you this. When you first started doing comedy shows and you're on the Chitlin circuit and you're going to leave small club and you're making 50 and they're paying you $100, did you ever think comedy
Starting point is 00:35:41 would be as mainstream and you could make the money that you're making right now when you first started? Yeah, because, see, I own my own club. And Steve Harvey came. Yeah, and Steve Harvey came. And this is 93. And Steve Harvey came, did three shows on Friday, three on Sunday. And I wrote him a check for $72,000 on a Saturday.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I said, man, I didn't know that kind of money. Yes. I said, yeah, I can stay here for an hour just for the stuff that you utter. Oh, man, yes, Lord. I knew. It's a beautiful thing if you can draw them people to come in. Quaker, you was in the military. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:36:26 When did you know that, you know what, comedy is the avenue I'm going to pursue? Because you went to the military and you could have been, you know, been a civil servant or you're like, nah, military, military, they don't make no money. They don't make no money. I might as well go ahead and make this real money
Starting point is 00:36:40 out here being a comedian. When did you start taking comedy serious? Well, I wish I did have a good, to be quite honest with you, a story like that. I was going to do 20 years in the military, but the war broke out. And I said, I don't mind practicing for war, but y'all fighting for real, man. I just came here to get away from my mama. Y'all need some real soldiers. You can drop me off at the crib, man. I ain't no real soldier, man.
Starting point is 00:37:11 It's time to tap out. So I went to Atlanta and just tried comedy out, just as a man just tried it, and ain't nothing better came. That's why I got the name Earthquake, because if it didn't work out, I didn't want my family to be joking on me talking about, do you know he got out of the military trying to be Richard Pryor? I used Earthquake
Starting point is 00:37:34 so it worked out. So, you know, that's it. I didn't want to mess up my good name. So somebody said, Earthquake, you're born. I'm like, I don't know Earthquake. My name is Nathaniel. Hey, who were some of the comedians that inspired you when you first started out? You know, your Richard Pryor and names of that sort.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I got in the game after Pryor, Paul Lever, just into the game of the occupation of it. But all the greats such as D.L., Sted, Steve, Bernie, all of them, you got to understand, I own my own club. So all the comics that you see now came through my club. The Chris Tucker's, the Arnaz J's, all of us were in this club. This was a trading field for us. And, you know, the other ones was the big stars like the George Wallace and stuff like that. So that's how
Starting point is 00:38:27 it was. Yeah, George bad boy. George is the first brother that taught me how to do a door deal. He said, you need 85, 90% of this dough and some of the food and the liquor. I said, okay, George. Hey, how do you feel about
Starting point is 00:38:44 the state of stand-up comedy today as opposed to how it was, you know, in our younger days? And I'm saying in our younger days because I'm right up there with y'all. Well, the only thing I would say personally as a comedian is be a comedian. Right. You know, I don't mind you doing anything, doing your format or sitting down here or Twitter, dude, but where's the jokes?
Starting point is 00:39:08 I want to hear the jokes. If you're going to be something else, and you're going to be a provocateur or whatever, okay, do that. But if you're going to fly out of this, bat them as a comedian, you need to be funner. And you can't bring what you did last year. Just like your game. Your last year has nothing to do with this year when you step on the field.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And you still living off of stuff you did in the past. You know what I'm saying? I used to be the 1997 Super Bowl champion in 2005. 2025. You know what I mean? And you sitting down here and you running an 8-4. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:43 You know, you used to run a 4-2, man. Get out of my face. I ain't got nothing to say to you. So I feel it would just be funny. Put a joke to it. Quake, when you look at where we are now, because it seems like a lot of these comedians are popping up through social media.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Oh, yeah. And when your day, you didn't have social media. Like you said, you had to be funny. Were they guys doing a whole lot of skits back then? I remember Flip Wilson. You remember Flip Wilson had the Variety Show, Caravanette, Tim Conway. There were a few that had the skit,
Starting point is 00:40:13 the skit comedy. But for the most part, guys stand up on stage and women stood up on stage with that microphone and they walked, paced back and forth and they told jokes. And now it seems like social media, guys blow up, guys and men and women blow up back and forth, and they told jokes. And now it seems like social media, guys blow up, guys and men and women blow up overnight. Quake?
Starting point is 00:40:31 Yeah, but see, it's just like your profession. Whatever it means you need to get seen by the scouts, you still better be able to play. It's true. Because ain't nothing going to help you when you get on that stage. Now, you might get them the first time, sell all out, because you was great on the internet, but in our profession, they
Starting point is 00:40:47 won't spend another dollar. The word will get around. He sucks, and they'll let you know, boo. I'm telling you, you find out just how long a minute is when you sell all that stuff. It's different up there. It's a hard job, but I love it.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I know you're cool with Chappelle um you're one of the few comics that that chappelle allowed to get close to him you donnell rollins i had donnell alone i tore it i tore him up quake i got me some jokes off quick i got me some jokes off on it i'll listen to you quake quake say hey they come up here and get you a few jokes off on them i got i got me a few i got me a few up on it. When I hear he's one of the few, like George Carlin could do this, that he could tell a joke while all the while providing social commentary. And that's a very, very unique ability to have.
Starting point is 00:41:40 He can take real-life events. He can make them funny, but tell them in such a way that it disarms the crowd. He's a genius, man. I have the privilege. I just worked with him on All-Star Weekend in Oakland. And when I tell you the set he has now, it's just as funny as any one that he had. And he's God-given for this.
Starting point is 00:42:04 This is what he's here for. You know what I mean? To interpret it is very relevant back to what I'm saying. These are the times and comedians, true comedians, have the obligation to tell the world and tell truth to power through your jokes and educate you through the laughter. Same as the people you said, George Carlin, the Richard Pryor. These people stood when we was going through even worse things and were able to
Starting point is 00:42:29 articulate where we is and he's there doing it for us now and it's brilliant. And I'm just privileged to be his friend. So what is the next? Are you on tour right now, Quake? Yeah, I'm getting ready for this.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Your boy is ready for this. Another Netflix special. Dave Spell is going to produce it for me. I'm coming to Atlanta. When? When? Because I'm going to be there. We're going to be in it.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I'll say within the next two months. We're going to do it. This one is going to be great. I'm ready. I'll tell you what. Let me have to find out from somebody other than you. I'm heckling. I'm coming to do it. This one's going to be great. I'm ready. I'm going to tell you what. Let me have to find out from somebody other than you. I'm heckling. I'm coming to heckling.
Starting point is 00:43:09 You know you don't want to do that to me. I got you. I got a couple of bullets for you already. They already got you. Hey, Quake, I'm your boy. I was like, Quake, I'm your boy. Don't give me quakes. Yeah, you my boy.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I talk about my mama. You know I'm going to talk about't give me Quake. Yeah, you my boy. I talk about my mama. You know I'm talking about you. And you. And you. These ain't jokes. And I can't see it now because we didn't put the ink on it, but your boy going to be on TV on the network. So I'm going to have him on my own TV show.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Oh, man, I'm mad. Hey, I'm happy. Like I said, man, you're one of the few people outside of sports that I communicate on a regular basis. And, man, I really appreciate you joining us tonight. But, man, you know, I've seen your show. I've always thought you've always been one of my favorite comedians. And after getting an opportunity to really know you and talk,
Starting point is 00:43:59 and even before you sat down with me on Club Shea Shea, having an opportunity to talk to you on the reg, man, you're just a good dude. You're a real good dude, bro. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Ocho, you my man, man. You know it, brother. Still don't spend none of that money. Let's keep it. Keep that money, man. Don't let
Starting point is 00:44:18 them rich shame you. Do not let them rich shame you. We ain't going back being broke. We know how it is. I ain't going back being broke. We know how it is. I ain't spent nothing 37 years, man. Listen, I've been enjoying the fruits of my labor this year. I told myself I'm going to treat myself 2025. So this year
Starting point is 00:44:34 I'm going to act up, Quake. This year I'm going to act up. But 2026, I'm going to go ahead and shut it back down. Give yourself a year, but don't let a rich shaming, man. Keep this money on you. I'll be rooting for you. Don't spend nothing. Hey, Quake, let a rich shame you, man. Keep this money on you. I'll be rooting for you. Don't spend nothing. Hey, Quake, man, appreciate your time,
Starting point is 00:44:49 man. Enjoy. I look forward to it. Like I say, hit me up and let me know because I'm definitely coming through the show, bro. Oh, no. I'm going to show that too and I'm going to also see you and show an invitation to the wedding, man. It's going to be huge. Everybody going to be there and I'm going to love it.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Don't have no vegan food, Quake. I know you eating healthy. Not going with that blue jive. Uh-uh, uh-uh. I got, I got, listen, I got you. I got you. I got real people food. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I promise. Quake, I appreciate that, man. Thanks for joining us tonight on Nightcap, bro. Love you, man. Love you. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma,
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Starting point is 00:49:57 Cheers to not being a bitter baby mama. Yes, I'm bragging because DJ really do have a great daddy. Out of the four years our son's been here, he's never skipped a beat in my boy life. I like that. I mean, that's dope. That's dope. That's dope.
Starting point is 00:50:14 I like it. I like it. Yeah. I mean, because sometimes, though, Cho, you know, hey. I mean, I'm not sure. I don't know about reward, what we're supposed to already be doing. I mean, you're not supposed to get a reward for what you're supposed to do. He's not supposed to misbeat.
Starting point is 00:50:27 You know, that's his child. Yeah, well, we're not supposed to argue. You're not supposed to get mad if I date somebody else and I move on, right? Okay, okay. Yeah, okay. I'm with you. I'm with you on that, right? I agree.
Starting point is 00:50:41 I don't believe, but, I mean, I don't know if I would have sent my child my co-parent. I don't want to say because, hey, Shannon Caldwell, my co-parent money for doing what they're supposed to, but... You wouldn't do that? What?
Starting point is 00:51:01 You don't send money just if they need an extra, you don't send money just... If they need an extra you wouldn't... And I'm not even... I'm not speaking on the part on... In context of her sending because he's doing a good job. Listen, just the fact that they have a child for me you always good.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Or you don't operate... I mean, I'm just saying that's how I operate. If you have a child for me you're always good and always will be for the simple fact that you do have my child. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Regardless of your circumstances, regardless of who you're dealing with, regardless of who you're seeing, you know, every time depending on who you see, they might not be as... You already know what I'm trying to say. I don't check nobody's pockets.
Starting point is 00:51:44 But if there's something that you need regarding the child, sometimes maybe not regarding the child, depending on the importance of it or the situation. Okay, you good, you know. I ain't nasty. Yeah, I think my kids,
Starting point is 00:52:01 I think my co-parent understands the situation and not. Right. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Look, we were young. We had kids young, first-time parents.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I'm in my career, you know, they wanted things that I'm not, I didn't think I could give at the time. Right. Looking back on it, probably should have handled things a lot different. I'm not saying that I would have changed anything about my career. I'm still going, but I probably could have squeezed some time in. But you don't know what you don't know. And you're feeling that that's going to hinder,
Starting point is 00:52:38 it's going to hamper my ability to be the player that I want to be. And so that was, you know, hey. But I didn't make peace with them. I made peace with the kids. Right. That's who I owed it to, was the kids. And I think, you know, I had a conversation with the kids, and they understood, or they told me they understood.
Starting point is 00:52:59 I don't know what's inside their head. I just go by what they tell me, Ocho. And so that was what I was able to do. But hey, kudos to her for not being bitter. Maybe he's moved on. Maybe she's moved on. And sometimes, Ocho, you have a kid with someone, and
Starting point is 00:53:15 they're bitter, you're bitter, and all you do is bicker, and the only person that suffers is the child or the children. So I'm glad we can agree to get along. Ocho, the $30 lunch debate is still going on. Bunny said,
Starting point is 00:53:32 I hate cheap ends. I'm no greedy woman, but if I want a seafood bowl for lunch, oh, as if plate from Shea. Yeah, $30 is not enough. Itch, please tell me $30 is not enough. Cry please tell me $30 is not enough crying I'm not getting McDonald's for lunch boo
Starting point is 00:53:50 what's up Ojo I mean hey listen I mean it's it will go on and on and on and on and on it's one of those it's one of those what I like to call black twitter topics yeah and it comes through every so often. The same thing, same conversation.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Listen, depending on who it is, depending on who the guy is, giving you $30, you're going to take that $30. Yeah. You're going to take that $30. Ocho, now maybe if it's a guy and you're in that situation, maybe you're like, well, damn, baby, that's why you got $30?
Starting point is 00:54:29 But you're talking about, but everybody ain't got it like that. Yeah. Everybody can't just, what? What is it, cash out? Yeah, okay. See your $1,000, see your $1,500. Okay, yeah. No, everybody can't do that.
Starting point is 00:54:41 So it's called cash outs. Yeah. Okay. Everybody ain't got, can't afford to cash app you $200. And who the hell eating $200 for lunch? One person. A $200 lunch, Ocho? I mean, listen,
Starting point is 00:54:56 when I look at some of the meals, I look at some of the prices, the way people like to eat, all this healthy food, you know, different restaurants that people like to go to, these nice restaurants. Don't your one person know for $200?
Starting point is 00:55:09 One person? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, the way they moving, it seems like so because the topic of the discourse... Man, they're going to stop trying to impress people. The topic of the discourse about that $30,
Starting point is 00:55:20 hey, women ain't playing that. But, you know, honestly, women's expectations and thinking they gonna have somebody or thinking you're going to find someone that's gonna be going crazy with it
Starting point is 00:55:33 and having the having the pockets to have that kind of what I call that kind of money um god I don't know what the word is
Starting point is 00:55:40 FU money oh yeah FU money disposable income disposable income where regardless of how much it is you need I don't know about the word. FU money? Oh, yeah. FU money. Disposable income, Monk. Disposable income where, regardless of how much it is you need, or you're good right here on the dot. This ain't no movie.
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