Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Rodgers returning for 2025, Anthony Richardson gets start, man fakes death

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to New York Jets QB Aaron Rodgers saying he wants to return to play in the NFL for the 2025 season. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Indianapolis Colts QB Anthony Richardson getting the start vs. the New York Jets, a viral story of a man faking his own death, taking out a $375K life insurance policy and allegedly fleeing to Eastern Europe, leaving his wife and kids behind and much more!13:10 - Hurts the Ohtani of football22:49 - Houston denies pooping his pants28:00 - Man fakes death to leave family53:00 - Dine and Dashers01:01:10 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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terms, and responsible gaming resources. Aaron Rodgers would like to return for the 2025 season. He told reporters the 40-year-old Rodgers has one year remaining on his contract enduring a disappointing season with the 3-7 Jets. Rodgers, Ocho, he's been below average compared to, forget his standard. He looked below average for any quarterback.

25th in QBR, his 62% completion rate, ranks 29th. His 6.4 yards per attempt, it's 25th. What'd you think of it, Ocho? Listen, I told you, you know, that Achilles injury, for one, I said he was coming back anyway. I said he was coming back regardless.

There is no other option. If he does decide to come back, that the Jets have, as far as maybe drafting the quarterback, getting somebody in free agency that you would think would give you the hopes and the chance that someone of the caliber of Aaron Rodgers would, this season has been abysmal for them.

From a quarterback standpoint, from a defensive standpoint, hell, offensively. The firing of Robert Sala, I think it affected them especially defensively because they look nothing like they did they weren't defensively since they let sala go exactly so the funny thing about it is what their what once was their identity is not even that anymore and that's defense and it makes it even worse is not only is the defense playing bad

hell the offense playing bad too and you you've added someone like Aaron Rodgers that's the hell. So I think him coming back and trying to run it back one more time to see if they can get things together, it'd be good. It'd be good. Because there is no other option.

There is no better option than him. Maybe not the option, not the quarterback we're seeing today. But there ain't no better option than him. Shit. You know how the landscape for the quarterback position is. There is no better option. Maybe not the way he looks right now, but he'll

show flashes of brilliance. If he can find any kind of consistency of what we used to see back in the days when he was with Green Bay, they'll be okay. Just give me a look. We just talked about as you get older, you remember Tom Brady. Do you remember Tom Brady,

his last year in Tampa? Go back and look at numbers. Yeah. You remember Peyton Manning, his last year in Denver? Mm-hmm. Yeah. You don't get better than getting older, Ocho.

Yeah, you're right. We haven't seen a quarterback or a player take a dip and then pick back up, especially at this age we're not talking about a guy 26, 27 we're not talking about a guy 31 we're talking about a guy that's going to be 41 that man said

what what did he say we got to play for pride or something? I didn't hear that quote. He probably did. I mean, he say so much stuff, but it don't normally, normally the stuff he's saying, he got nothing to do with football.

That's how you know, Ocho. You want to collect the check. Okay. You want to get the money, bro. You go on there. You ain't talking about no football. You talking about this and that. You trying to take little pot shots here and there.

Not invested. I don't see the steps that it takes to be a leader to galvanize a team. People automatically assume, well, he's a great player. Nobody will ever argue that one of the historically great players but there's more to that there's more to being a great player when it comes to leader and leading

leading a team and leading men and asking them to follow you right Right. You're right. You know what? When I think about it as well, is when Aaron Rodgers is playing bad and the fact that the team is constructed offensively, they haven't been together long enough. They're not good offensively to overcome his bad struggles or his bad quarterback play.

No. I think that's more the issue. So to be 41, to be coming off an Achilles heel injury, everyone around you has to be that much better than you when you're playing bad. Yes. They got to be able to save you. But you're under the impression.

I mean, Tay got a, what's his base? Tay got like what's his base Tay got like 34 million dollars I don't think the Jets gonna pick that up you think they're picking up that 34 million dollar option on Tay well I think they would probably work something in restructuring because you know

Aaron Rodgers if he is coming back you know he's gonna want that number one target I don't know if Aaron Rodgers have the same pool as the way he played. Why am I listening to you? You're the one that got him here. Oh, there's no other option. The same way Daniel Jones got that goddamn money. Yeah, you say there was no other option with Daniel Jones.

Let's see what he got you. It wasn't. Again, it ain't no other option with the 41-year-old Aaron Rodgers. So you mean to tell me I got to pay a guy $45-$50 million in order So you mean to tell me I got to pay a guy $45, $50 million in order to go 3-7 and I can't pay a guy $10 million to have that same record?

You know how valuable that quarterback position is. How valuable is he at 3-7? Tell me the value of that. You right. Hey, that's the gamble. Listen, that's why we not GM. I'm just asking.

Somebody say, oh, last time you told the truth about Tom Brady, you ended up at ESPN. But I'm just trying to say, I mean, value. I mean, so what exactly are we getting? So what are we going to get at 41 that we didn't? Okay, at 39, we understand Achilles injury. So what are we going to get at 41 that we didn't? Okay, at 39, we understand Achilles injury.

So what are we going to get at 41 that we didn't get at 40? Hmm. You know something I don't? No, no, no. I just understand it. Again, like you did say, when you were great, when you were young, you know, sometimes you say you don't dip.

And all of a sudden become what you once were. But I know even when even his dipped as a quarterback, when he dips, it's still better than most. No, Ojo, you watched him this year. You think he's a top 10 quarterback? You think he's top 15? Come on, man. You say he's still better than most.

So where would you rank? If I gave you a choice of the quarterback, the 32-star quarterback, where are you taking Aaron Rodgers? Okay. I ain't talking about his resume. I ain't talking about his resume. I'm talking about this year. All right.

Listen to me. We got 32 teams, right? Think about the team that have starting quarterback that you would not replace. That you would not place Aaron Rodgers with. Obviously, Kansas City, Buffalo. Lamar, Green Bay. Lamar, Justin Herbert. Trevor Lawrence.

Joe Burrow. I mean, yeah, Joey. Joey, of course. Okay. Now, after that, now think about other teams. I'm not replacing him. I'm not replacing Russ with him.

No, hells. Not with the way them motherfuckers playing. Hell no. That's what I'm saying. Hold on, hold on. That ain't number 17, man. It with the way them motherfuckers playing. Hell nah. That's what I'm saying. Hold on, hold on. That ain't number 17, man. It's 32 of them. See? Let me ask you this. You replacing

CJ? Oh, no. Jane Daniels? Jane Daniels? No. You replacing Brock Purdy? With Aaron Rodgers? Hey, can I ask you a question? Yes.

Okay, you're saying, hey, listen to me, listen to me, listen to me. The way Brock Purdy get that ball out of his hands in that offense, the way Shanahan run that offense, you don't think with the arm that goddamn Aaron Rodgers got, when you don't got to hold on to the goddamn ball and everything is running like this in that West Coast offense? A lot of it, oh joe is the quarterback i think he knows more than the coach oh yeah i know what you're talking about i know what you're talking about i know i know exactly what you're talking about but a quarterback of that magnitude know just as much as the coach don't you think

especially being i'm not replacing Purdy. What about Arizona? The way Kyler Murray plays? No. Excuse my language. I'm sorry. The Rams. Matthew Stafford. No. No. Geno Smith. No.

So that's four right there. Okay. Let's go to the NFC South. Yeah. Cousins. In Atlanta. Eh. Eh.

Because here's the thing, Ocho. Right. Given the talent that some of these teams have, if I put them in Carolina, how much better is Carolina with Aaron Rodgers than they are with Bryce Young, given what they got? See? You see what I'm doing now? Where it used to be

he could elevate. Now he needs someone to elevate him. That's what we're getting at. So, I like that. getting at. So. I like that. A fan on Twitter wrote, Jalen Hurts will be the first member of the NFL's 2020 club.

20 pass TDs, 20 rush TDs. He's the Shohei Otani of football. What you think, Ocho? The Shohei Otani of football? Because Shohei did 50-50 before it used to be the 40-40 club

you know A-Rod was in it Barry Bonds was in it Jose Canseco was the first to do it Ronald Acuna Jr. I think did it trying to think if there's somebody else at the top of my head that did it but that's a Teddy Bear what you doing

I like it I like it 2020 that's a good feat has it been done before at the quarterback position no I don't know no no no no no hell no what quarterback can throw for 20 plus touchdowns in russia you understand 20 rush touchdowns how many touchdowns that is russian yeah there's a

lot of quarterback that can throw i don't even think cam has ever rushed for that many touchdowns in a season season and that's that's dope not not as you think about it. Hell yeah. That's bad. Would you compare it to the... No, no, no. Because hitting a baseball is a lot harder than running. I was going to say. Yeah.

No, but it would be... It would be huge. would be, it'd be a huge, it would be huge. I mean, anytime you could do, you could be the first to do something in any particular sport, don't you? That's on a positive note. Obviously, you don't want to strike out the most times or you don't want to, you know, have the most drops or the most interceptions or the most fumbles, something like that. But when you could do something, throw for 20 touchdowns, rush for 20 touchdowns in the same season. Yeah, that's

an unbelievable honor. And to see where he's come from, not being a very good thrower of the football and he's turned himself into a very good thrower of the football. Because remember, he lost his job at Alabama because he wasn't proficient at throwing the football.

He's worked. He's put time in, and he's gotten better. And that's okay. People are like, oh. It's okay to say someone wasn't good at something, they got better, and they became better at said task. That's Jalen Hurts. That's Lamar Jackson.

It's okay. That's a huge compliment. That's kudos that you weren't particularly great at something and you've turned yourself, Jalen Hurts has turned himself into a super, a guy that went to the Super Bowl. Lamar Jackson is a multiple-time MVP.

That's unbelievable the work ethic that it took Lamar Jackson could throw for possibly 5,000 yards who had that on their bingo card the guy that you wanted to turn into a wide receiver or a running back could possibly

throw for 5k in a season the guy that they say was very quarterbacky whatever the hell that shit means for 5K in a season. Mm-hmm. Yeah. The guy that they say was very quarterbacky, whatever the hell that shit means. But, Ocho, whose side are you on?

Is that Jalen special? Did somebody ask that question? Hello. And I can name 20 better dual threat quarterbacks all time to hurt. Is he the fourth best dual threat quarterback to wear Eagles jersey? I mean, what are you going big? I guess they go with Randall Cunningham. Randall Cunningham. Donovan McNabb?

I guess that's what they're saying. Vic vick and i guess they say hertz is four hertz okay i mean that's only that's only four i only only ones i can think of yeah i like it i mean you know cam season um cam went to the uh super bowl in 2015 you know, Cam's season, Cam went to the Super Bowl in 2015. They were 15-1. What did Cam have, 25? What did Cam have, 20, 35 passing touchdowns, 10 rushing touchdowns? who was Cam numbers in his MVP season 35 and 10 yeah

hey why i take uh yeah so when you look at cam's number he was 35 and 10 the year he went to the soup bowl um and lamar jackson won the mvp with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions last year he's 24-2. Passing touchdowns. Probably has another, what, three or four rushing touchdowns. That's crazy. Yes! The Colts, Ocho, going back to

Anthony Richardson, the 2023 number four pick will regain the spot as the team starting quarterback Sunday against the Jets. And for the rest of the pick, will regain the spot as the team's starting quarterback Sunday against the Jets. And for the rest of the season, Shane Steichen said, it's the attention to detail in everything Richardson does. It's got to be higher standard. Over the last two weeks, he's made strides in those areas.

The decision comes on the heels of Joe Flacco's worst performance of the season. Flacco had four turnovers, three picks and a fumble, and a loss to the Bills. Ocho, you like the move? Yeah, absolutely like the move. Obviously, I think they

went into the direction of going with Joe Flacco because we think they thought he gives us our best chance to win right now. If I'm not mistaken, when the move was made, I think the Colts might've been four and four. You know what? Boom. There's a chance that we can continue to go where we need to go with Joe

Flacco, the helm. They felt he gives us a better chance. Obviously not after, you know, back-to-back losses. And then Colts comes out and says, oh, Anthony Richardson has made these unbelievable strides in a two-week span. Now we're going to put him back at the starter. Shut the man if you don't stop. And again, like you said, we were talking about Bronny.

In order for a quarterback to get better, he has to play. You got to go through the ups and downs. It's not going to be, Especially after this is basically his rookie season because he was hurt. He messed up his shoulder his rookie season. You got to be on the field, man. It's the only way

things are going to get better for him. And listen, I'm happy for him and his team. He's the future of that team unless they decide to go in another direction.

Maybe not after this year, but maybe after next year things don't turn around. But I'm happy for brother Ant man you need it it's good for his confidence too it's good for his confidence so whoever's calling the plays

brother Shane Steichen you know find a way to get that young brother in the rhythm so he gets some goddamn confidence and once that confidence gets built back up but Ocho

ain't no way Ocho when you look at the talent that he got he got Jonathan Taylor in his backfield. He got Pittman Jr. He got Oli Cox. He got Doolin.

What's the other receiver name? Last name? I can't remember his name. He went number 10, I think, if I'm not mistaken. Hey, well, he nice. Yes. A young boy. Nice. What's his name?

I can't think of his last name. No, no, no. Well, no, that's Moe Alleycott. He's a tight end. What's the other wide receiver on the court? Alex Pierce? Alex Pierce. Yeah, yeah.

Pierce. Yeah. Oh, Joe. He ain't the boy of the talent now they can run it they got a decent offensive line they got two outstanding receivers more Alec Cox now I'm not saying he's Kelsey he's not Laporta

he's not McBride any of that but he's a solid tight end he gotta be bad bro yeah he gotta be bad hopefully it's really that simple who the Colts

play this weekend the Jets see there it is the perfect game the perfect game for him to have a resurgence horrible defense horrible offense but say you know the NFL is funny man to have a resurgence.

Horrible defense, horrible offense. But so you know, the NFL is funny, man. The NFL is fickle. Ain't no telling what team you're going to get. Ain't no telling what Aaron Rodgers

you're going to get. That's what makes it, that's what makes it. I hope we don't get the one that showed up the last three weeks. You see, I mean, let's be real, Ocho. Outside

of that Jets game, I mean, but think about the Jets game. Think about it took two one-handed catches from Garrett, from uh, uh, uh, uh, Garrett Wilson. Yeah. James yeah James Houston denies pooping his pants on Sunday Night Football but Jason Kelsey

says he's lying Houston posted hey y'all I sat on some Gatorade just chill with that Jason said he has no doubt that Houston did in fact poop his pants and he knows from personal experience, he told Trav on New Heights,

that's why I hate white pants. That's the first time that's... This is not the first time this has happened. I know many players that had that happen to them. Travis said, you and I both know he didn't sit in no Gatorade. And not the exact specific spot. We all know.

Damn. Whew, know. Damn. Lord have mercy. I know nothing to be ashamed. Yeah it is. A grown man took a dump. Sometimes you can't hold your movements out there on that field.

It's different. Before you go out there. Yeah. It depends on what you eat pre-game it don't even matter I already know I'm going I have a pile in there so high

they hop down off ain't nothing to be on show plus I ain't never huh I ain't never had no issues you know now having to

having to you know piddle which is is probably the only thing I've ever had to do never had to do number two especially not when it's time not when i'm not in the middle of competing yeah i ain't got nothing i ain't got nothing i ain't got nothing in my stomach because

i first of all i've already eaten i've eaten five hours before the game and i've already had to go to the bathroom so you know i mean know, I mean, my stomach, I mean, me, my stomach is... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just rumbling. So... Nah. So I'm good. Now, have I seen guys do it? Yeah, I've had guys

going out to the field. I said, bro, you got to change now. For real? Yes. Absolutely. do it yeah i've had guys going out to the lot going out to the field i said bro you got to change them for real yes absolutely i ain't never seen yeah i remember you know uh and uh uh i don't know if people there's this drug they used to be called this weight loss drug called xenocal um and it worked because it it uh helped your body not store fat so if you ate but you couldn't eat more than 10% of your diet from fat because if you did if you did

you're going to have a blowout I'm just telling you if you did you having a blowout trust me trust me man you having a blowout. Right. Trust me. Trust me. Man. Man, them jokers be up on,

they be up on the, men and women. Right. Be up on the treadmill and they got on, you know, back then, you know, bodybuilders,

you wear white and women used to wear white. They passing gas if you want to. Yeah. You don't see how many, hey, they be on the treadmill and all of a sudden they got their sweatshirt tied around their waist ain't fooling me

don't play hell nah damn bro I feel bad for them I mean I saw the picture I'm sorry guys that we can't show you a picture, but we on copyright probation right now. We're in the copyright halfway house. And we ain't trying to go back to the big house right now. Nah.

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Listen to Ali and Me me now on Audible. A Wisconsin man apparently took out a $375,000 life insurance policy, faked his own drowning so he could abandon his family and flee to Europe. Ocho, would you fake your own death? Absolutely not. I mean, he faked his death, tried to get away from his wife, get away from his kids. For one, I'm not faking my death because I love my kids. I want to be here.

You know, I had too much fun with them. But he must have been miserable. He must have been really miserable. You know how bad it has to be as a family man with kids and a wife to fake your death and want to leave and use insurance money?

Like, think, like, logically think about that. It has to be really bad. I'm trying to figure out how long he thought, Ocho, how long he thought $375,000. Were you going to get another job or something? Well, it depends on his lifestyle. It depends on how he lived. You know, $375,000 could be a fortune to some people,

especially if you live way below your means or you're not a spender like that. Well, you got to pay rent. Does he have a place already paid for? Is he going to get a car? You got to understand, everybody don't move like that. You feel me?

So how are you going to get around? You just going to walk? I mean, you're going to the UK. He in Europe, huh? He was moving somewhere in Europe. Bro. You get your little moped, you good. Okay, but what you going to eat?

Where you going to live? Some of the people don't even make $375,000 in their lifetime. I'm sure he was going to be straight now. Come on now. Yeah.

Somebody that works a minimum wage job. Yeah. If you work at a fast food chain, probably, maybe not. But I'm just saying. I don't know how old he is. I don't know how old.

How old was he at? Let's just say for the sake of argument he spends $20,000 a year he's in his mid 40s he spends $20,000 a year in 20 years it's gone that's if he just spends $20,000 can you live off $20,000 a year

who? Ocho Cinco shit yeah I make that bitch stressed Can you live off $20,000 a year? Who? Ocho Cinco. Shit, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I can make that bitch stretch. I can make it. You cannot.

You want to bet? You cannot. Did you hear what I just said? You cannot live off $20,000 a year, Ocho. Stop it. Did you just hear what I just said? Lord have mercy. I can stretch $100 for a month. How you going to tell me?

So where you living? So how much is that apartment you got right now? This ain't my place. The apartment that you've been flashing, all the apartments you're looking at, how much they're going to cost? Oh, that? I can't disclose how much that is.

I'm just going to say for the sake, let's just say, I'm going to say, Ocho, I'm concerned, Miami concerned, I'm just gonna say for the same let's just say let's just say i'm gonna say ocho it's gonna i'm concerned miami concern i'm gonna say it's gonna cost you three thousand a month that's 36 000 right there without like without anything you got a cell phone that's got no huh you got a cell phone yeah my cell phone free i'm with at&t okay Hey, you have to understand, you're thinking from your perspective, too.

No, I'm thinking from a logical perspective. Hold on. Middle-aged white man, you know, married, three kids, you know, he ain't living like that, man. He ain't living like that. Ocho, $375,000 is not a lot of money for a lifetime, bro. You comparing these regular folks

to you. People are going to make $375,000 in their lifetime. How are you going to tell them that? The average person makes $50,000 a year. What are you talking about? What? You out of touch with reality. What's the average salary for an American?

In this goddamn economy? The economy doesn't matter. It costs more, but people still make you $48,000, $50,000 a year. Oh, Joe. No, they are not. No, they are not. Watch. Tell Ash to look it up real quick.

Boy, people out here struggling, boy. $50,000 a year. Hold on. Hold on. hold on. What is it? Man, you tripping. According to the U.S. Department of Labor,

the average... Now you don't want to listen. Okay, go ahead. I'm going to let you finish. I'm going to let you finish and I want you to read the chat with the people that are actually living the real life. The average salary, the average salary for, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor, the average U.S. salary in 2023 was $59,384.

That's average. Now, granted, that factors in the LeBron James, the Shohei Otani, and that factors in the people that's making $20,000. But even if you made $20,000 a year, in 20 years, that's more than $375,000. So everybody motherfucking struggling but because the u.s department said this is what everybody makes this is minimum oh now everybody's great now we got all the goddamn financial issues

in the goddamn economy but you listen to what that goddamn truck got to say listen just because you make 60 000 yes it costs more to live. Yes, groceries are higher. Grass prices are higher. Rent is higher. That doesn't diminish what you make. Yes, it costs more to live. Yes.

So that means we're not making enough, right? So you agree. That's besides the point. You said they're not making it. All I'm saying is it costs more to live so yes it's gonna cost more the point of the matter was you said 375 wouldn't lie

so we don't know how this man lives he's going to Europe for one right stay with me now he's going to Europe to live so if he's swimming so how He's going to Europe to live. So he's swimming? So how does he get to Europe? Come on, man.

Because you say he's going to live modestly, so I'm just trying to figure out how he gets to Europe. You got to stop throwing out all these hypotheticals, man, trying to spend the man money now. I just want to know how he gets. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe he just. I don't know how you're going to do it.

I just listen. Three seventy five is a lot of goddamn money. I don't care how you spice. For a lifetime. For a lifetime. Hey, you know, some people in this world won't even see a million dollars.

That ain't a, that's three. I said 375. I didn't say no million. A million, 375, 500,000. Well,

you, you got to touch for reality, man. Come on,000. But you, you out of touch with reality, man. Come on, man. God, I leave, man. Ocho, you out of touch. Now you acting like 375 ain't no goddamn money because you've been making millions all these years. Ocho, I'm saying for- People not seeing that kind of money

in the regular world. Ocho, I'm saying 375 to last you a lifetime. Yes, if he gets a job and live modestly, that's one thing. You said the man can have 375 and he going to be straight. Where?

If you got people that would never see 375, you got somebody that gets a lump sum of 375 that lives below his means and lives the right way. In this economy? He's going to Europe. Not here.

Their economy is worse than ours. What are you talking about? Where? In Europe? We don't live over there how you know I read oh don't you can't listen you can't listen you can't listen nothing they put out you can't listen nothing they put out hold on hold on let me do

my little homework real quick hold on I'm looking right now. Hold on. Okay. No. All right. What you looking okay for? I'm just saying. Hold on.

$375,000 is not a lot of money. I know one thing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to let okay for? I'm just saying, hold on. $375,000 is not a lot of money. I know one thing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to let you brush that off. I'm not going to let you brush that off. It ain't no money. Don't brush that off, Ocho. No, no, no, no, no.

I want you to cut a chat with a green with Ocho. Read what you just said. Read you said oh no it's just certain people I'm just I'm just I'm reading certain people talking about that ain't no money no okay read what the cost of living is in Europe oh I couldn't find it because you say okay you're right no no no read

it read it come on Ocho don't do that I'm gonna tell you right now I'm gonna tell you right now hold on hold on boy hey listen some but y'all it. Read it. Come on, don't you? Don't do that. I'm going to tell you right now. I'm going to tell you right now. Hold on. Boy, hey, listen. Y'all. Hold on. Watch this. The cheapest cost of living in Europe.

Damn. damn damn what they don't tell you the numbers they just tell you where the cheapest places to go in europe to live is i mean portugal poland romania estonia see that they athens greece they're not they're not giving me numbers on what you would need to live in these places. That's something I would need to see. We need to come back to this topic because this is a great topic. This is the great topic. What is the average?

What part of Europe, okay, what part of Europe are you talking about? I don't know. Eastern Europe. I don't know. Eastern Europe. We don't know what I mean. So that's what I mean.

So hold on. So that's 30. So that's thirty seven thousand five hundred dollars a year. Now, you said he's not. You said he could live off that. That means he's not getting a job and he's living a thirty seven five a year. Why wouldn't he get a job? Why wouldn't he have a job?

Because that was the argument. Oh, Joe, I said that's not a lot of money. Now, if he's going to get a job, yes. He's going to get a job. He ain't going to Europe like he's some damn. He just robbed a goddamn bank. Ocho. Of course he don't work.

Ocho, let me see. The man faked his death. So you think he's going to go get a job? Yes. Do you know how they do that? Yes. Do you know how they get caught? You don't think you know how to create a new identity? Do you know how they get caught? Yes. Do you know how to create a new identity? You don't think you know how to create a new

identity? Do you know how they get caught? Did you see Ocean's Eleven? Ocho. Yeah. There's a man looking for him. He's not dead. Ain't nobody looking for him. How do you think we're having a conversation, Ocho?

His wife's nished on him. But you said ain't nobody looking for him. I said his wife snitched on him. So how you think we having the conversation? So he gonna go get a job? Mate, you don't understand. We got it.

Come on down here, man, to the real world with us. Ocho, you talking to somebody that grew up. I understand. I do. But I also understand how I was living. How many people wants to live in a thousand twelve hundred square foot with no end to it with men with minimal. Necessities.

That's that's back. That's back way back in the 50s, man. But you also have to understand, Ocho, think about what you were accustomed to. That's what I'm saying. This man is on the run. If you on the run,

how you going to go get a job, Ocho? Do you know that you know how all the things that you can do on the black market to change your identity and be a completely new person in a new place? I shouldn't,

let me stop before I get myself in trouble. I ain't finished. I'm not sitting here and talking about that stuff on here because I really shouldn't know nothing about it. But it's possible.

It's very possible. You can do it all the time. It's possible. But you got to make it, but Ocho, think about it. Yeah. Think about very possible. It's possible, but you got to make it, but Ocho, think about it. Think about all the people that did things and went to countries. Hell, they caught a guy that

killed, he killed two police officers in D.C. They found him in a hut in Africa. Man. Man, please, Ocho. Yes. Yeah, if he wants if he wants a menial job yes but I'm saying but you said

375 is a lot of money to do what to do nothing I mean you're talking to the cheapest dude in the world man so to me but we just had a conversation. When you have no money coming in and it's going out. Right.

That's... All right. And I think with understanding, he knows he would have to have a job. Doing... How you gonna... Well, he's... Yes. If he gets a job that doesn't...

Maybe he gets a job that doesn't require information. They're gonna pay you under the table table, but okay, your identity. They post that because you know they're going to post it. Have you seen this guy? You know what? I work with a guy that looks just like him at the butcher mart. Or I work at a guy with him in the factory. Then what? then what that's a good topic

I like that a good topic one thing about it we'll never know yeah hell nah I damn sure don't want to know how to live off

oh I already know I'm not fit to have to live off no 375 for the rest of my life hell nah and then Ocho live off no 375 for the rest of my life. Hell no! And then, Ocho, what happens when they freeze that well, hopefully he got the check, because they put, where you gonna cash your American check

at in the UK? Man, listen. He must be the cash to check. Hey, you saw the movie Catch Me If You Can? Yeah, I do. Frank Abagnale. Yeah, I watched the movie. Oh, man.

Boy, there's so many things you can do with that identity, man. I'm trying to figure out how y'all, like, I'm trying to figure out how y'all talk about I moved to Gold Post. It's $375 for the rest of your life. I'm just trying to figure out how I'm moving the

goalpost. So where you living at? What's your rent? Even the dingiest place, go charge you what? Let you go get what you go get on me. You know somebody that got a section that you gonna pay a five what you gonna pay? Let's just say, Ocho, you get one of these

thousand dollar a month. Okay. That means you can only spend $37,500, Ocho. Yeah. You ain't about to have no power. You ain't gonna have no air conditioning. You ain't gonna have no lights.

What you gonna eat? There's a way, because before you fake a death, you already have a format and a plan out. You got everything already planned out before you do all that. So, I don't know what his plan was.

I'm not sure if he made it. I'm not sure if he made it. I'm not sure how he got caught. But it's something that happens all the time. This just happened to be the one who did get caught. Man, I'm just trying to figure it out. I'm just trying to figure it out. Look, I understand. Yeah, I'm trying to think. if you lived in miss i'm trying to think

if you lived in mississippi but still i mean the i understand the cost of everything is elevated so when you factor the cost of everything is elevated and you weigh that by making 37 500 a year that's the problem where people are struggling ocho is that it's not the fact that okay we're not because they say people that make 150 000 is basically living check to check in america because eggs and bread and everything is elevated price of gas is elevated the cost to buy the home is elevated the price to rent a home or an apartment is elevated. So if everything is elevated, it's not that people aren't making money. It's just it costs more to live. So if it's costing you $150,000 and to have some people, and I'm not saying all.

I don't, you know, obviously you're probably living in some place like San Francisco or New York or someplace like that, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? Where rent, you're paying $3,000, $4,000, $5,000 a month in rent. Yeah. Just imagine if you're paying $5,000 a month in rent. UK ain't cheap, Ocho. It's not.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know I don't know because everybody living in the UK ain't living like goddamn no everybody in America ain't living Ocho why you think people complaining I'm just saying

Ocho if I made $50,000 a year and gas was $1.33 a gallon and I could get three loaves of bread, that's something entirely different. Think about what it cost to buy a house back in the 60s. Think about what it cost to buy a car in the 60s. You could buy a house. I mean, now a house is a car. Yeah.

Yeah. You ain't buy no three-bedroom, two-bath house for those 60 grand. That's what it costs. And your monthly payment will probably

$75, $80 a month. You got to live within your means. Yeah. Live within your means and act your wage. I see it all the time.

If you got a certain amount coming in, if you have lump sum coming in, you have a plan to live within that means and make that bitch stretch. All I'm saying is, people, if I gave you guys $300,000, let's just say somebody gave you $375,000, you retiring?

Because if that's a lot of money, you can retire. Kick your feet off like I'm good. People in the chat, they rich because everybody said $375,000 ain't no goddamn money. Ocho, you talking about for the rest of your life.

See, I think you're getting confused talking about $375,000 a year. I'm talking about for the rest of your life. The rest of your natural life. Somebody told me I'm going to flip it. Bro, you're going to be back to work tomorrow. You're going to be back to work tomorrow because if that's all your money you got

and you're willing to risk it, I already know what you're about to do. Somebody said he... We ain't gonna be at tomorrow. Back working. Ain't no... Ocho, who taking...

Ocho, who taking their last and try to flip it? Man. What? and try to flip it. Man. Hey, hey, well, y'all here, boy.

75% of the people say no, they couldn't live off 375 for the rest of their life. Hey, Ocho, hey, what they gonna do? They gonna play our parlays? They gonna play our draft kick parlay? Like, look,

I mean, the thing was, Ocho, if you look at it, the way we grew up in the house we had, we didn't have to pay rent on it. But you know, my grandmother living off $197 every two months, you're going to have to eat, you're going to have to do something. Because I remember, man, I ain't eat no...

So, if your mom or your grandma bringing in $197 every two weeks, you tell me what steak and ribs you think you eating? Right. Oh, man. That was funny.

Bro. People forget, Ocho. I think people forget. I think people look at us now and what they see is they see Shannon now. I know what it's like to make $25. I know what it's like to make $25

I know what it's like to make $100 a week I do I know that's not a lot of money and I know what the cost of things now I'm like well damn and that's what people are having a problem with it's not that they're not making more money

it's that the cost of living is going up and it's eating into the money that they're not making more money is that the cost of living is going up and it's eating into the money that they're making. So if I'm making this, Ocho, I don't want prices to stuff that I need to do this also. I need my money to go this way and I need

like, y'all be gradual with bread and gas and food prices. I need to creep. Hell, let's move it up at the same pace. Oh, I got to get some tissue. Y'all got me crying, man. Man, I just... Somebody talk about move to Uganda.

Hey, what do you say, old boy? You you say if he go flip it you ain't gonna be right back right back to work tomorrow yeah okay flip okay man please man I've been looking please. I know what stuff costs.

I'm not naive. I got a lot of households to fill. Oh, man. I needed that laugh. Next time my boy needs a raise, I'm like,

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like they were getting up to leave, like they were getting ready to go to the bathroom or something like that. And each one, they left. Why y'all do that? I wish I'd see. Man, listen. And you wonder why I tip the way I do when I go out,

when I do happen to go places. See? Stuff like this. Like, that's the point. If you don't have the money to eat, if you don't have the money to tip, you know, at least leave something, man. But don't dine and dance.

Yeah, come on. The service, these people rely on these tips, man. These people rely on these tips. man. These people rely on these tips because they don't. Even if you don't tip, pay for the ish that you ate. Pay for the stuff that you drank. Okay, you don't want to leave a tip, but, you know, hey, it's normally on the thing. Parties of six or more, you got to go charge you 18%, so forth and so on. Okay, I get that.

Let's just say it's two people. Don't do that. If you don't want a tip and it's two of you guys, three of you guys, that's fine. But don't you take your ass to these people's restaurant and eat their food and then run up out of there. $26 a piece.

On a $400 tab. Really, people? Really? Really? See what I mean? See how bad times are? See what I mean? Great story. That ain't about no times.

That's people just being jackasses. See? You're right. They was being jackasses. I bet they had some kids, huh? No, them grown ass people Ocho it was

yes grown ass you already know I don't even need to tell you you know yeah oh us

you know damn damn damn damn $26 Ocho yeah you right you right you right you right

you right you right and that's not something that you decide you made a when you walked into that restaurant you already know

you were gonna eat them people's ears and you were gonna do what you did I just hate that around, you already know you were going to eat them people's ears and you were going to do what you did. I just hate that. I really do, Ojo. I hate... I mean,

I've been in a situation like, been in the Whole Foods and the guy, homeless guy, come in there, bro, I'm like, bro, and he all, I say, bro, don't talk. I say, what you need? I get it for you. Pay for the stuff. They grab stuff. They chase somebody. I pay for it. Just let them have it. Let them go. Don't do

this. Don't do people stuff like that. Come on, people. I'm not going to say we're better than that because we're not. We are who we are, Ocho. What we see, that's who we are as a society. We've got to stop thinking that this is so beneath us as a society. No, thischo. What we see, that's who we are as a society. We've got to stop thinking that this is so beneath us as a

society. No, this is exactly who we are as a society. It is. It is sad. Times haven't got that hard that 16 people decide to go out to eat, and each one of you guys say, you know what?

Nah, I ain't gonna pay even if I'm with a party Ocho and we go out I'll pay for it before I let somebody do that bull job but I used to go out with the guys like alright hey check this out bro

you did that bull job last time yeah not this time go in your back pocket bro bro. Bring your ass. Right. Every time we go out, all of a sudden, you get... All of a sudden,

you got to go to the bathroom. It can wait. Come on. That's embarrassing. That's embarrassing. I wouldn't even... I couldn't even in good conscience do that Ocho cause it's not like

that's probably not a chain restaurant it's not like they like one of these big they doing 30 million in revenue you know a lot of these places Ocho they just making just enough just enough yeah and then somebody I just hate it man

I hate somebody I just hate it man I hate it I just it was at Memphis at a Mexican restaurant let's find a restaurant I'll send them something we're going to find out a restaurant I'm going to send them something I'll take care of it We're going to find out the restaurant. I'm going to send him something.

I'll take care of it. That's a shame. I just, I hate people. I just hate people to pray. I just hate people to pray on the week. Oh, Joe, that's always been a pet people.

Man. Yeah. See, can you see how you be getting on me by tipping like that? Now you see why. I don't care if you didn't have anything but water to drink. Leave something, huh?

Yeah, come on. Just pay for your meal. If you didn't want to leave the tip, like I said, normally, I ain't been to every restaurant, but normally, when they say parties of six or more it's already 18% gratuity built in you got 16 people

y'all eat them people food I'm sure everybody didn't drink water right and you just eat the people food and just walk up out of there and y'all thought that was okay y'all thought that was cute. Dang.

I was premeditated. For sure. For sure. Premeditated. I mean, I was at Target, and the guys. Tarjay. Yeah. And, you know, he had stuff.

I mean, he had more... I think he had like some coupons and stuff like that. But anyway, he didn't have enough. And I said, bro, I ain't got time for you to take that back. Don't even worry about it. Just take your money. I'll pay for it. Just put the stuff in the bag. I'll pay for it, man. Just keep running up and put it on mine.

Right. Man, I appreciate it. Bro, just get the stuff and go, man. Come for you, take your bag. I ain't got that kind of time. You know, hey, I'm going from point A to point B. I don't do no...

You know how some people go to the grocery store and they just like... No, I know exactly what I'm going to get. And get up out of there. And get up out of there. And when I get to the thing... I hate... You know what I hate?

Huh? I don't know if I'm going to get these, but how much... Put it in the bag. Put it in the bag. Just put it in the bag put it in the bag just put it in the bag I got you oh just

I gotta go I forgot something I gotta oh no shoot at Target as big as that goddamn place is oh lord have mercy

talk about I'll be right back but I've done that one time Ocho I can't lie I did done that. I one time, Ocho. I can't lie. I did that one time. I forgot my wallet.

Hmm. You ain't got the app on your phone? You ain't got your cars on your phone? No, you know you got the app where you can have your cars on your phone virtually and you tap it. You ain't know that? No, I know exactly that. Ain't nothing on your phone virtually and you tap it. You ain't know that? No, I know exactly that.

Ain't nothing on my phone. Oh, that's right. My bad. Steal my phone, my screen saver, the middle finger. That's what I got for you. Soon as you tap on it, that's what you gonna see. I got something for you. That's funny. Now, Ocho, now it's time

for Q and A. Hey, boys, three o'clock out of here. What? Holy shit. SWG Ray Z said, pay for my Uber Eats. I'm hungry. It costs $375,000.

Yeah, that ain't no money. Send it to him. Hey, you must be trying to buy a McDonald's or something. Shoot 10XL, Uncle Nocho, you guys have helped me through some of my darkest times. I appreciate you guys for being you. Don't ever change. Thank you.

Thank you for your support. Thank you for being you, bro. And always remember, sunshine follows rain, but we're glad Thank you for your support. Thank you for being you, bro. And always remember, sunshine follows rain, but we're glad that you pulled through that. LB Cool said, why isn't Steve McNair ever mentioned? Do you think he needs a statue or jersey to be

retired? Man, Steve was great. I played against Steve when I was in Baltimore. Actually, we were in the same division. It used to be the AFC Central. It was Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, and Tennessee. It was six teams in that division.

And so we, you know, I played Steve McNair four times. Well, actually we played them five because we played them twice in the regular season. And then the first year I was there, we beat them in the divisional round to advance to the AFC championship. Yeah, I think I think I think he I think he gets forgotten because of his tragic passing. And, you know, you know, Heidi is out of sight, out of mind. Yeah, we see Michael Vick.

Obviously, we see Cam. Cam just retired. You know, I don't know if he's officially retired but stepped away from the game a couple years ago obviously we see Vic doing his thing on Fox in the morning but

yeah another guy to do a threat guy Steve Young don't get any credit either people got that Steve had wheels before he turned into a prolific passer. Steve Young was a mobile quarterback, athletic quarterback, scrambling around. But you're absolutely right.

Steve McNair does not get the credit that he deserved. He did win an MVP. He did lead a team to the Super Bowl, led a team to the playoffs multiple times, but you're right. You're absolutely right. He does not get the love and attention that he deserved. David said, please show the film where you guys played

in the games on Saturdays and Sundays. Wait, what did he say? Nah, why would I why would we show knowing that we haven't paid the licensing fee from the NFL, why would we show get NFL games?

I thought I elaborately laid out what it would cost for 10 minutes of NFL footage or NBA footage or any other footage like that. But nice try, David. Vaughn H said, Okanocho, love the the show been supporting you guys from day one just want to give you a shout out uh just want you guys to give a shout out to my wife Erin coming up on our 11 year and a marriage uh

11 years of marriage in a few months oh appreciate it Erin congratulations bro 11 years that's a long time decade plus congrats 11 years. That's a long time. Decade plus. Congrats. 11 years. That's it.

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three straight triple doubles. He had 35.12 rebounds, 14 assists. He had 9.7 rebounds, 5 assists in the fourth quarter alone as the Lakers stayed undefeated at home and moved, or they're 6-0 at home now, and first time since

where they're 5-0 at home and 6-0 in 2011. Lakers made 23. They're 6-0 now? They're 6-0 at home and they stayed undefeated 7-4 in the Western Conference. What else happened? Giannis dropped 59 points in a 127-120 win over the Pistons in overtime.

Giannis had it going tonight. He became the third player. He has the third most 50-10 rebound games in NBA history, only trailing Wilt and Elgin Baylor. I think Wilt is safe for right now. The Cavs continue their undefeated season. They hold on to beat the Sixers without Joel Embiid and Paul George, 114-106.

The previous five teams to start 13-0, four made the NBA Finals, but only the Rockets won the NBA titles. Pop is recovering from a mild stroke. He hopes to be back soon. Pop, the Nightcap crew, and all our fans and friends are praying for you. Return to the Spurs. We want to see you on the sidelines soon. Mean mugging reporters and not telling them ish.

Victor Wimanyama had a career high, Ocho. He scored 50 points in a 139-130 win over the Wizards as he became the fourth youngest player ever to score 50 points in a game. Brandon Jennings holds the record. He was 20 years and 52 days. LeBron is second at 20 years and 80 days. Devin Booker is third with 20 years and 145 days. And Wimby is 20 years, 314 days.

LeBron James also had another 50-point game at 20 years and 345 days. So that concludes this edition of Nightcap. I'm Unc. He's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow after Thursday Night Football. Good night. The volume. The Made for This Mountain podcast Good night. and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify.

The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators

shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.

Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.