Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2: Rory McIlroy STARTING To CRACK at the Masters + Eagles TRADE for Dontayvion Wicks + Play OR Fade + O’Shea Jackson Jr. DEFENDS his DAD

Episode Date: April 12, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Rory Mcliroy being tied with Cameron Young going into the final day of the Masters, Eagles add Dontayvion Wicks to the wide receiver co...re and O’Shea Jackson defends his dad movies post 90s on X and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Rory McIlroy tied for Masters lead 7:15 - Steelers still awaiting on Aaron Rodgers' decision21:10 - Eagles add Dontayvion Wicks to receivers corps27:36 - Play or Fade with PrizePicks32:29 - O’Shea Jackson Jr comes to the defense of his dad’s post 90s movie35:06 - Q & Aaayyy Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:47 Never makes it either, special at Augusta National. On Friday, he has six birdies in his final seven holes, and the narrative shifted to the talk of him pulling a secretary or Tiger Woods type, you know, hey. But, today, Roy, six-stroke advantage. The largest 36-hold in Masters history was gone by the time he bogied the 12-hole.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Maca-Roy now shared the 54-hole lead with Cameron Young, but the 90s Masters is wide open with 11 players are within five-stroke. Rory will become the fourth player to repeat. Jack did it, 65-66, Nick Faldo did it, 89-90, Tiger did it, 0-1-0-2, and Roy has an opportunity to do it now. So this the masters, right? Yeah. What year was that when, was 90 the year that Nick Fowdo tracked down Greg Norman?
Starting point is 00:03:42 Greg Norman had a six-hole, had a six-shot lead, and Fowto tracked them down, Sir Nick now. I think that's, I think that might have been 90. It might have been 90. I mean, they still got rounds to play tomorrow, too, yeah? One round left. The final round of tomorrow. Okay. The company green jacket.
Starting point is 00:04:05 How far back is Scotty Sheffler? I think Scottie might be four or five back. Okay. That ain't bad. But you gotta be careful now, Big Scotty. You come and get you, huh? Yeah, yeah. Come on, Cam.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Come on Cam Young, when now. But like I said, hey, I think the thing is is that the go out early put pressure on them. Because they see when by the time they get there. Yeah. They're going to see them. God, damn, look at that leaderboard. I'm putting some pressure.
Starting point is 00:04:39 on you. I'll put that pressure. That's what I'm going to do. I'm let you see, hey, and don't let me start five back and here I am. I'm on 15 and I'm 12, 13 under. Or I'm in the clubhouse and I'm even or one stroke above you. I'm in the clubhouse.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I'm sitting pretty. I'm just throwing my golf ball up in there. I ain't worry about me. Do you even think they feel pressure at that level? Hell yeah. At that pressure? I don't. I mean, I mean, at that level, though. I'm in the clubhouse with the lead.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Yes, absolutely. And then they come off that thing, A man, corner? Mm-hmm. Hey, you thought they felt pressure today when you saw them scores, them scores, they climbing? Yeah. Four. Hey, somebody going to come get hulked down like a track meet.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I don't know who, I don't know who it's going to be. Mm-hmm. Cameron Young was minus seven. Roar was plus. everybody went low today except Rory. Cameron Young, minus seven. Sam Burns, minus four. Shane Lowry, minus four.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Jason Day, minus four. Justin Rose, minus three. Scotty Sheffler, minus seven. Lee, minus three. Patrick Canterley, minus six. Henley, minus six. Everybody shot, everybody shot, even par or below par, except Rory.
Starting point is 00:06:18 When the last time you've been on the golf course, huh? When I beat you and Joe in New York? No, I'm talking about, like, playing, like, you know, playing 90s ago. But I don't play no golf, man. Huh? I ain't play no golf. I'm trying to think, maybe like 2000, 2002, 2003. The NFL used to have a golf put on a golf thing.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And some of some of the level, like Samuel Jackson and Matthew McConaughey. and JT, Justin Timberlake, a lot of celebs would come and play. They don't do it anymore. As a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, it used to be in San Diego, maybe at Riviera, I think.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Riviera. So who you got winning tomorrow? Huh? Who you got winning tomorrow? Me? Scottie's fourback, huh? Yeah, I mean, Scotty Sheff, the only one I know. You know, I've been on the green with Scottie a few times.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I don't, I can't get in the golf. I don't know what it is, man. It's a slow game. I mean, they say you play it, you get bit by it. You see LeBron started playing, he got bit by it. My brother never played around in golf, and then he retired and he's addicted to it. Yeah. You see, and I think the thing is just like anything, once you get good at it, you just want to play and try to get better.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Right. That's one sport. If you didn't really start when you was young, unk, man, it's difficult. You can get good. And from what I... You ain't good like they are, though. Nah, hey, man, please. They can hit shot.
Starting point is 00:08:01 They can fade it. They can draw it. Mm-hmm. Man, hey, they hit them stingers, man. They hit, man, come on. The only thing I like about golf is the fact that you can smoke your cigars on the course. Yeah. You can smoke on a goddamn course, but I just, I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:08:17 It's expensive. But you see how much clubs are? Yeah. Man, I'm good. I pass. Yeah. I mean, I got some clubs. TD bought him some golfing clubs when he rushed for 2000.
Starting point is 00:08:30 He brought him some golfing clubs. He did for 2000 to win in the MVP. Got a name, got my name on the bag and everything. Got nice clubs. You want to be using it? They ain't been at that bag and they ain't been out in my closet. I can't do it. They ain't out.
Starting point is 00:08:49 No, hell, no. Yeah, I think I would have to be extremely old with no ability to run or be active, you know, doing the things I like to do now before I even get into golf. I'll take lessons then. I take my lesson I'm doing. I got too much muscle.
Starting point is 00:09:11 It's hard to lift weights. I mean, you're doing band work. Right. Because you can't have nothing up here. Right. Because all they're going to do is getting away. I mean, I can't play then. That's why, that's why.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Who are really good, quarterbacks? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basketball players. Mm-hmm. Hockey players. People that don't have pictures, they don't have anything going on up here.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Look at the show. Look at quarterback's shoulders. Mm-hmm. Ain't got no muscle tone. Right. We'll be too stiff, huh? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Yes. Got to give it up. So what you want to do? You want a six-pack or you want to be good at golf? Six-pack. Okay, see, there you go. Six-pack. one of the remaining
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Starting point is 00:12:27 This is my favorite part of the calendar. Yeah, mine too, Greg, free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, Pro Days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future. This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money. On 40s and free agents, we break down every move that actually matters. From my draft evaluations, mock drafts, and team fits. To my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts, and all the tough decisions included.
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Starting point is 00:14:32 team's top offensive players. Jalen Warren said he's not making any bans about whether Rogers will play or retire at this point. You know, I'm not really expecting anything. Whatever happens, happens. I'm rocking with whoever that quarterback at the quarterback position. But if he comes back, great. If he doesn't, then we'll miss it.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Hey, I know Aaron Rogers is loving this. I think any quarterback is loving this. got we can have a team by the balls being for what 42 wait how old is it yeah for yeah 42 yeah yeah yeah you know you know and this this lets people know those in the chat that are watching or those that are fans of the NFL game on how important the quarterback position is because they understand how valuable and roders is even though he's not the same and roders of old yes the other options that you do have aren't the answer they don't have no options i mean that too well will how Will Howard is there.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I'm not sure Will Howard is the answer for the foreseeable future. But, I mean, Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers, even though he's not the same one. He still gives you your best chance to win. I mean, he just does. That's why he can pull the shenanigans that he does. And you know what? I'll let y'all know when I'm ready to come back.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Knowing good and well, you know you're coming back. Why even play this game? But even if he's not, let them have an opportunity to go get somebody in free agency. ain't nobody to get. There was somebody. Maybe they want to make a trade for somebody, Ocho. No. Because they're making a trade for somebody.
Starting point is 00:16:04 They're making a trade for somebody. What about Kurt Cousins? Kirk Couss was available. Where did Kurt go? Kirk signed somewhere. To Vegas. To Las Vegas. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:16:14 That's right. That's right. He's going to mentor Mendoza. Maybe, hey, hey. He could have mentored Will Howard. Listen, I don't know why Aaron Rodel. was playing these games, but it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:16:27 He did it last year. He's doing it again this year. And he'll probably do it again next year as well if the Steelers don't find, you know, his successor. He's going to keep doing it. You know the one team that he didn't do it with? Green Bay.
Starting point is 00:16:40 The Jets. The Jets said, now, we're good. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. A.G wasn't playing that. No. Because he's done it. They've seen this for far too long. Even Green Bay.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Green Bay. Green Bay said, nah. But he should have known. saw it play out with Roger, I mean, with Brett Farb. Right. They got tired of playing Brett Farms game. You thought because he was a three-time league MVP, won a Super Bowl. Right. You thought they weren't going to get tired of your shenanigans?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Oh, yeah. It's like they drafted you to replace him. Why do you think they drafted Jordan Love? This is it on the bench for the next 10 years? Yeah, you're right. But listen, this is the hard part. This is the hard part for the Steelers. When Ben Rothensburg was there, they didn't draft a Jordan Love.
Starting point is 00:17:25 They didn't drag anyone even as close because they didn't want to piss Ben off. Now you're stuck in quarterback purgatory. Look at somebody else where you have to rely on a 42-year-old, 43-old quarterback to let you know when he wants to come back and let you know if he's going to come back. And if he does come back, what you got for another year? And all you did is kick, all you did was kick the can down the road.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And you're still having to address the issue, which is finding your long-term quarterback for the future. Yep. All you did was delay it. It's like, hey, hey, man, look here. This tire. Well, we can patch it. They don't even patch tires anymore.
Starting point is 00:17:59 But hey, they put the little donut on. He did a little donut. The donut tied to a little donut tie? They say drive at a slow rate of speed and you probably got 50, 60 miles of distance in it. And then you see people drive around two, three weeks on that tire. And when they put him down outside the road, well, I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Well, what happened was this was a temporary fix. Yeah. No matter how great Aaron Rogers was, and he was great, he was his story. Historically great. Historically, yeah. He is a temporary fix for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And if somebody sees them as anything other than that, they're sadly mistaken.
Starting point is 00:18:35 If the Steelers, but I don't know why and because I don't know why teams are so afraid, you've got to, I mean, especially when a quarterback get to like year 15, oh, Joe. Yeah. Come on now, man. We got to have, we got to start having serious discussions. Right. About the future. There's really nothing to talk about.
Starting point is 00:18:53 There's no discussion to be had. No, I'm talking about as an organization. organization. We got to have a serious discussion. I ain't discussing it with you. The hell? What decision your grandparents made that involved you? Not one.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Here's the list of what we think about by what you're in on this. Oh, here's what we think about putting in the house. Right. Grown of don't make no. My girlfriend used to always say, boy, don't brash you with a child. You tell the child what to do. Do. So at a situation like that, I'm not informing
Starting point is 00:19:28 Aaron Roger, I'm going to say, look. Now, I will say this, so we don't get them all blindside because, you know, the most sensitive, the most sensitive players on a football field are the quarterbacks. Always. Okay, we're at agreement. Always.
Starting point is 00:19:46 We're looking to draft the quarterback. How high is to determine whether or not somebody falls. But I say within the first three rounds, we're going to take a quarterback. Boom, that's it. That's it. You're going to be going to pissing, off. That's all right. He'd be okay. He still
Starting point is 00:20:06 want to cast him checks. Because guess what? You don't imagine if Green Bay didn't have a Jordan love, how pissed off they would be. Look at the teams that waited. Look at what Miami did because they didn't have a succession plan with Danny. And they didn't have a succession plan. And so everybody doesn't have a Green Bay situation. where you go Bradford, Aaron Rogers, Jordan Love.
Starting point is 00:20:39 That's luck. But that's because the quarterback put them in a situation. They had no choice. They didn't have a choice, Ocho. Brett kept jockeying them around. Aaron Rogers, well, I'm thinking about retiring. I don't know, you know, I just want to be in a quiet, dark room.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Right. And I just, you know, uh, and so the team didn't have a choice. They got tired of that. Yes. And that's the only position, depending on who you are or you could play them
Starting point is 00:21:06 damn games like that. Yeah, you ain't, you ain't playing that game at no other position. They get you up out of there. I don't care how great you are. Other than that guy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:17 That position, not a said, not he said guy, that guy. Because first of all, you're going to be that guy to play those type of games. No average guy ain't playing those type of games. No.
Starting point is 00:21:27 But to be that guy, and you know you have the leeway you are an MVP or you've won MVP or you're that level of quarterback, You get a lot of leeway. A lot of leeway that other players and other positions don't get. No. But I understood that.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Mm-hmm. Who didn't know that? I didn't take advantage of it. No. I didn't take advantage of it. Quarterbacks have a privilege and the star players have a privileges, and I'm like you. I didn't take advantage of it.
Starting point is 00:21:57 No. That's the whole part of being a leader, is not taking advantage of the privilege that you've been given. Oh, and. Well, you know, you're coming back, man. Because if he decides not to come back, oh, my goodness. Boy, they're going to be in a heap of trouble over there. Yeah, they're going to be in a heap of trouble.
Starting point is 00:22:20 But it's our own fault. Because when they could have did something about this, they saw Ben wasn't the same guy. He had taken too much punishment. And he was starting to slow down. You saw it right before your eyes. but not to tick him off. Okay, he's still happy with it.
Starting point is 00:22:40 They ain't really replaced me. Now look at you. Dang. Pending all your hopes on a 42-year-old that probably by this is his last year. Yeah. Or you might try to keep hitting them one for ones because you have to think about it.
Starting point is 00:22:59 No, I'm moving on after this year. I've got to find me a long-term fix, Ocho. Where's the long-term fix, huh? If I got to go into the draft, then draft one. Man, I got me. I feel you. I feel you. So what?
Starting point is 00:23:20 Just keep going. So just keep going these one-year deals with Aaron Rogers and not get the future. And then when he decides to retire, what about, where am I? Hey, you find that successor now. You go into the draft. You can't. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but ain't, ain't nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Franchise quarterback? Have we seen anything like that? Look. Mm-mm. Just because I, you don't. think a guy right now looks like that. Ocho, I got to try. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:48 You seen Aaron Rogers at Cal? Yes. He looked like that. You seen Matt Mahoney at Texas Tech? He looked like that. Let me ask you question. If they brought Aaron Rogers in right away immediately and played him, how do you think he looking?
Starting point is 00:24:03 Nah. It's a good thing he sat behind, Brett. Exactly. And my homeboy, my homeboy, sometimes it's great to come in and get a the bird's eye view and see how people do think how, how that position is played, how you're supposed to play the position. And who don't? Maybe Aaron Rogers is still that guy, but I think he benefited from having an opportunity
Starting point is 00:24:28 to sit behind Bradford for three years and learn. I think my homeboy had an opportunity to sit behind Alex Smith for a year and learn. Some guys, hey, they get to sit. Carson got to sit. Yeah, but they make it too much money now. They let, they're not letting you fly to sit. Yeah. The rookies are making too much money, especially if you draft them high,
Starting point is 00:24:48 anything pick one through five is not sitting. We paying you, what, 30, 35? Probably 40 billion. Yeah, the high you're probably 40, 40 plus million dollars be guaranteed this year. They throwing your ass out there to the sharks. You better figure it out because I'm paying your money, not sit down and sit behind a veteran quarterback. Absolutely not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:09 You're right. You're right. And it's ruining them because you saw it did Anthony Richardson. Oh, yeah. He was a top five pick. You said he was a project. And instead of developing in that project, building that project built with a strong foundation,
Starting point is 00:25:22 you threw him out there. Yeah, there's no patience, huh? They want instant gratification. These owners and GMs want instant gratification and instant success right away, especially if we pick you high. You're the person supposed to change our franchise. That's why we went and got you.
Starting point is 00:25:39 You are our answer. You are our future. You are our 10-year future. We don't have to worry by any position we're supposed to build around you. That's basically what it means. It does,
Starting point is 00:25:52 but have you set me up for success? What do you look like from an offensive line standpoint? What do my receivers look like from a receiver standpoint? What is the system or the coaches have you set me up to success with the structure in which I'm going to be in? Most of the time, no.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Right. No. They just think guys are supposed to come in. Everybody and Andrew Reed. Everybody doesn't, everybody doesn't, because in order to do some things, you have to have solid footing.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Kyle Shannon has, how many quarterbacks you think could have made up, and you give up all those draft picks for the number three pick in the draft, and he gone after a year. Oh, Trey Lance. Yeah. See, you got to have strong footing
Starting point is 00:26:42 in order to do that. that. Right. I mean, you think about it, you take, you got Alex Smith, when's the playoff game? Mm-hmm. And then you're like, you know what? Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we take it a quarter.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I mean, Alex Smith is playing well. But Andy just felt this office could be so much more dynamic if I have a stronger armed quarterback. And those are the decisions that you have to make. See, it's not that, it's a lot of times it's the decision, those decisions that really to define GM, head coaches and things like that. It's the tough decision.
Starting point is 00:27:20 You win a no, Joe. You're like, man, hey, we winning, we winning 10, 11 games a year. But there's something that's deep inside of you said, we can be so much more, though. And seven AFC championship games later, five Super Bowl appearances later, three wins later, it's hard to argue.
Starting point is 00:27:45 It's hard to argue. And so we'll see what they do, but I think they have to. I think the Steelers are going to have to get a quarterback. Now, maybe you're right. Maybe they believe in Will Howard. But they believe in Cody Pickett, and they believe in Mason Rudolph. Okay. With AJ Brown future uncertain, the Philadelphia Eagles have added to the receiving
Starting point is 00:28:11 core head of the 2026 draft, Ocho. I'm Luke Wilson. Join me each week for Film Never Lies. Since retiring from the NFL, I've had a lot of my mind. and now got my own show. So if you're tired of lazy takes, if you want honest conversations, join us each week. Film Never Lies, available on all TSN platforms
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Starting point is 00:28:46 Wouldn't you know it? Michael Schumacher is also. a Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. The story of the sports most consequential driver's strike. We have one man who, upon hearing that he was going to be fired, freaked out, and apparently climbed out the window of the bathroom. And was Daniel Ricardo's illustrious F1 career, a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both?
Starting point is 00:29:07 He started getting all this attention, and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better, and plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent, dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault and Our Stars, and now I guess also is the co-host of the away end, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game, and I fell in love on our new podcast the away end we'll share with you the magic of international football all leading up to the
Starting point is 00:29:53 twenty twenty six world cup for us soccer football is a story we've shared for over 30 years since daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team very debatable and i was there most loyal and sometimes only fan i love this game i love its history it's hope it's heartbreak and above all it's beauty together we'll find out why of all the unimportant things that we'll find out why of all the unimportant things things, football, soccer is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Auerkone and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Jeremiah.
Starting point is 00:30:33 And I'm Greg Rosenthal. And this is 40s and free agents. The games may be over, but the NFL never stopped. This is my favorite part of the calendar. Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine. The NFL draft, Pro Days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future.
Starting point is 00:30:49 This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money. On 40s and free agents, we break down every move that actually matters. From my draft evaluations, mock drafts, and team fits to my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts, and all the tough decisions included. You got quarterbacks on the move? We got teams rebuilding its hope season. Yeah, absolutely. It's hope season.
Starting point is 00:31:13 We'll tell you what's real, what's noise, and what it means for your favorite team. Smart analysis. real conversations every week. I'm not about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you are a founder or a freelancer or the friend who always says, hey, you know what, what if I started that?
Starting point is 00:31:36 This is for you. I'm telling you I had nothing to my name. I didn't know a single person in New York. And somehow I'm dressed by Oscar de Lorenta walking down that red carpet. This month, we sit down with entrepreneurs and creators. who actually did it, who turned the scary leave into a business, a paycheck, and a life they are proud of. Direct center of our happiness or our regrets is whether or not we're taking action on the things that matter to us. They're not selfish. They're so important. They actually lead to our greatest contributions because when we're living fulfilled, we actually show up better everywhere.
Starting point is 00:32:09 We lead better. We're better friends. We're better relationships and collaborators and all those things because we have passion about the things we're doing. If you're trying to build something of your own this year, join us in these conversations that will make you braver and smarter with your money. Listen to Dos Amigos as part of the Michael Tutta podcast network available on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Eagles are sitting Green Bay Packers, a 2026 fifth round pick and a 27th round pick in exchange for Dante Wix, Wix, who's signing, who's going into the final year of his rookie contract, will reportedly sign a one-year contract extension for $12.5 million.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Wicks 25 was a fifth round draft picking 2023 draft. During his three seasons with the Green Bay Packers, WIC has caught 108 passes on 180 targets, 1328 yards, 11 touchdown, and averages 12.3 yards per catch. I mean, the writing is on the wall. Can we see it now? Huh? Maybe it's in hieroglyphics. the writing is on the wall.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I mean, it's been that way. It's been that way. And I said it last year. I said it during the season. I said it in the off season. Anytime we do talk about it, you know, the Eagles are planning to make a move. And there's a certain situation that's going on. And people are talking about integrity and talk about ethics and talk about this person.
Starting point is 00:33:38 I mean, blah, blah, blah. And listen, nobody moved the needle or make decisions outside of the GM and the owner. They are not influenced by any. by anybody else. Man, y'all put out there. You and Ocho talking about it. You and this person talking about it. Yes, the media.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Man, you think the monos give a damn what the media say? They don't care. They don't care what me or Ocho or what anybody say. They're going to do what they're going to do. Always. Always. I mean, we talk about franchise. We talk about billion-dollar entities.
Starting point is 00:34:09 You really think anyone outside of that has influence on their decision-making? Like, come on, let's be serious. people. Come on. They don't even let the players that's playing for them influence what the hell they do. How do they're going to let somebody outside the building that's not even inside the building influence it? Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:34:25 But outside of that, you, I mean, it's been enough. I think it's time to move on. I think AJ doesn't want to be there. We've seen enough, enough of that. He was frustrated this season. The second year in a row, he was frustrated even after he won the Super Bowl and he was frustrated. So he's even frustrated, more frustrated now because guess what? He's seen what those guys.
Starting point is 00:34:47 guys do it. He said, change don't miss a beat. He said, JSA and then come on now. Look at Pooka. Man, DeBonte Adams come over there to a whole new team. Yeah. And lead the league in touchdown passing. Somehow, all these great guys, these coordinators can find ways and their quarterback can find ways. I call the play and they can get me the ball. Somehow here, we still haven't found a way to consistently get me the ball. Now, I ain't putting it on nobody. I'm not saying it's the coordinator. I'm not saying it's the quarterback. But all I do know is that I play a dependent position and I'm dependent on my quarterback and my coordinator,
Starting point is 00:35:21 putting me in the situation and the other guy throwing me the ball. And I bet damn, if we can't do that consistently. Yeah, I mean, I understand. He was, I mean, frustrated, frustrated. Yeah, for sure. Year before that, he was reading the book to keep himself calm, put himself relaxed. So this year, I mean, same thing again.
Starting point is 00:35:39 So that's two years in a row. You think he didn't go sit around for a third year of the same? Absolutely not. It got so bad. Absolutely not. The owner had a conversation with it. And people like to say that, and that got out. Had it not gotten out, how would you have known that Jeffrey Lurie and A.J. had a conversation.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Somebody always leaking it, huh? Of course. But it had gotten to the point that Mr. Lurie didn't, it was, felt some type of way about it. Probably said, you know what AJ. Hey, let's try to make the both of the best. to this situation what we have currently. I understand your frustrations. How he's explained it to me, X, Y, and Z.
Starting point is 00:36:26 He don't know no plays, but anyway. Howie's explained it to me? Yeah. And let's try to make the most of this season. And then after the year, we'll try to make a decision that works best for both of us. Yeah. I think this is the second move.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I think they've made at the receiving position, if I'm not mistaken. even with AJ Brown not there, I think they'll be able to make up for some of the production, maybe not all of it, but the Eagles will still be a dominant team. They still,
Starting point is 00:37:00 and the NFCEs, wait, no, it is NFCEs, ain't it? NFCs. Yeah, Dallas, Washington and the Eagles. The Eagles, yeah, they still, they still gonna make their head. They still gonna do what they want to do. But, I mean, AJ Brown,
Starting point is 00:37:14 And he just, he needs a change of scenery. I said long ago, before all the, you know what was going on, I said it would be the Patriots. I said it would be very well because of the situation in the relationship that they had when he was in Tennessee. So he just made the most sense, him going to New England. So, hey, we'll see what happens June 1st or is it June 20th? June 1st.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Yeah, June 1st. That way you can spread it out over two years. Yes. The cap here is not as significant as it is. Right. Yeah. So I look, I just think the thing is, Ocho, we've been talking about it. I just think everybody, everybody just want to just move on, want a fresh start.
Starting point is 00:37:59 It's okay. There are irreconcilable differences, and we choose the part on amicable terms. Yeah. Not a bad thing. Illreconcilable differences and the split is amicable. I don't know. Them boys good, though, man. Them boys good.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I ain't happy. Have you seen the situation? Oh, I'm telling you. How have we seen men and women in a situation? They got everything. Fly private and you got diamonds and you get cars. You get XYZ. And I'm just not happy.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yeah, it happens. All that at the end of the day, what about my happiness? I mean, hey, no crime from the yacht. But, hey, some people. Mm-hmm. it happens. You can get everything you ask for. And it's still not enough.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Not enough. Fly, eagles fly. I don't know the rest of the song, but I love that thing. I just, I just won't look. I just hope AJ gets somewhere he could be to give him an opportunity to play like he thinks he can play and then go from there. Because right now he's not happy.
Starting point is 00:39:15 No. And I don't think, I don't think he's the best. he can be. And it's hard to be when you don't know. I mean, you go from one game you might catch nine, the next ball you might get three balls thrown at you and catch one. It's hard to play like that.
Starting point is 00:39:33 It's time to play a fade presented by prize picks. Miles Bridges. Excuse me, the Knicks play the Hornets tomorrow. Miles Bridges will have 0.5,000. three points. So he'll make one. That means he'll make or he'll attempt. I'm going more. He's going to make one. Then he'll make one. Because they shoot, they shoot 50 a game. So Mello's going to get his. Canipo's going to get his. The guy that you like from Alabama going is going to get his. Miles Bridges going to go, going to get one. All right. Indiana,
Starting point is 00:40:24 Detroit. A so, Thompson, four and a half rebound. Hey, four and a half, four and a half sounds so goddamn easy. It sound easy. More. The Lakers in Utah. DeAndre Aiton under seven rebounds. More. Lord, how much is that?
Starting point is 00:40:59 He ain't, I don't know. I don't know what Aiton I'm going to get. Hey, well, hell, you know where Aiton you go get. He ain't got no choice but the, but insert himself. Insert himself and do what? Everybody hurt, um? Crash the glass. You're going to cause me to crash out tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Probably what he's going to call me to do. That's the only crash you're going to happen. Should I go more or less than seven? How many rebounds he have last game against Phoenix? I have to go more. I might need to give him, you know, give him a jump again. Oh, Lord, have mercy. It may have played 20 minutes, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:41:53 I think he played like 24 minutes. Yeah, we're going low. We go on less. You going less? Yeah, man. Yeah, we're going less, Ocho. Last two games, 31 minutes, five rebounds both games. LeBron James, points, rebounds, and assists.
Starting point is 00:42:21 More than 43. 43? Oh, you mean all together? All together, yes. Yeah. I don't know. Did you see him? Have you seen him since Luke and A, R been out?
Starting point is 00:42:33 Yeah. Average in 28, 12, and 8. 28, 12, and 8. six eight rebounds. I mean, it's expected. I mean, it's LeBron. Joe, you realize he's 41 right. Yeah, yeah, he's 41.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I mean, but it's still LeBron. And father time, for the time hasn't caught up yet. Now, we, we husband posing him right now, Ocho. But plus, you got to realize he has the ball, he has the ball in his hand. His left arm right.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Wait, oh, is, wait, huh? Is it his left arm? The husband guy got the ball in his left arm and he do it like this. Oh, my bad. Man, I don't know. I ain't never win it. $25 to win $125 to win $125.
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Starting point is 00:43:44 So Ice Cube, son, isn't letting anyone diss his dad post 1990 movies. Cube namesake came to his father's defense on Twitter when someone wrote, no offense, but why hasn't your dad been in a good movie since the 90s? Like straight garbage since the 90. This is what Junior said. I could say the 21 Jump Street series.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I like 21 Jump Street. All about the Benjamin. Good. Fist fight. Lottery ticket, not good. Teenage Mutual Turtle, not good. It's been four franchises since 2000 began. Barbershop trilogy. Are we done yet?
Starting point is 00:44:20 The sequel TV show, Ride Along. It looks like Ride Along is getting done again with Ice Cube and Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart. Yeah. Two more Fridays, technically. It's five. You know, we're not going through this. Man, we're not going to let y'all do this to Cube.
Starting point is 00:44:35 He doesn't do it too. Man, you look, no, no. And Cube, hold on, Cube, have been in some good movies, huh? Yes. You know, he didn't have to show his range, you know, he can get serious. Yes. You know, I'm not, I'm not sure somebody being goddamn picky. You know, somebody tried to rage bait.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Because when you look at, look at it, like, I don't know. I love barbershop. Barbershop, funny as hell, man. Barbershop. I like Eddie. I like Eddie. Eddie by guy. Are we done yet?
Starting point is 00:45:07 Are we done? It was good with the kids. A nice little. Ride along. A ride along. Hilarious. Kevin Hart crazy ass again. 21 Drum Street was good.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I didn't see that. I didn't see 21 Jump Street. with a I think it was isn't that one with Chan and Tatum? I think so. What else we got?
Starting point is 00:45:36 It's Fridays. Friday's iconic. Friday is a movie that you can watch no matter where you see it if you catch it on TV you watch him from right there at that spot.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Friday's up there with boys in the hood. Oh, the first Friday is a classic. It's got to be in your rotation. Oh, easily. Easily. It's got to be in your rotation. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:45:59 If I'm flipping the channels and I see Friday, If I'm flipping the channel, I see Harlem nights. If I'm flipping the channels, I see life. I ain't going no further, and I'm going to watch it. Oh, yeah. Every time. So, A, Jr.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Pops on his thing. Don't worry about that, bro. Don't even worry about that. Because, you know, you know how they be doing, man. They're trying to get you, they're trying to get you raging and don't follow for it. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening, Ocho. It's time for Q and A. Ice Q was in 21 Jump Street.
Starting point is 00:47:07 All right, before we get to our super chat, we got five video voicemails. Let's take a listen from our Discord. Let's take a listen at the first one. What's going on, Nightcap family? Unc, Ocho Joe. My one question of y'all is, who do y'all think will be a sleeper in the draft at the wire receiver position? My personal opinion, I think a guy like Dionne,
Starting point is 00:47:34 Burks, you know, a gadget guy that can play multiple positions. I think he'll be a sleeper in the draft. It just all depends on where he goes, but he'll be somebody like how Wondell was, my boy Wondale, you know, my boy Rondale, guys who can get the ball in space and get it quick, you know, on bubble screens and intermediate shorter routes, you know, the drag routes and the crossing routes. but who do y'all think will be a sleeper in the draft at the wide receiver position? Because that's the position I like the most every year. I like the little kid from Georgia.
Starting point is 00:48:17 I think he ran like 4-3-Ocho. And you know Georgia receivers, they're better in the league than they are in college. Yeah. Because their offense in college is really simplistic. Very. If you look at Ladd-McConkie, you look at Pick, you look at a lot of these guys that come out of Georgia, and you look at them once they get to the league and look how they flourish.
Starting point is 00:48:36 So I like the little kid from George. I think it's Branch. I think his last name is Branch. I'm not sure. But I like him. For me, probably Casey Conception. Am I saying? Okay, Texas A&M.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Yeah, I think it all comes down to where you go. All the receivers are good. They're good. They're not great. They don't pop out. It's not your Jamar Chase. It's not your Justin Jefferson type receivers. So situations matter most.
Starting point is 00:49:06 you know, for these players, I mean, where they will go, for them to be able to flourish. I think in the right system, there can be a jewel, there can be a gym that can surprise a lot of people, especially depending on how fast they learn and pass that learning curve. Okay. Here's our second one. Let's take a listen. What did that say? He ain't Glibbill, Georgia.
Starting point is 00:49:36 NFL great, Sterling, shattered and Sterly Sharp. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That was dope. Yeah, you ain't got one in Liberty City, do you? I do. I'm getting my name. You can't put it up there your damn self, dope.
Starting point is 00:49:50 No, no, I ain't going to put it up there. You see, it's coming. It's coming. I mean, matter of fact, when we do do that, we need to have nightcap there alive. Oh, Lord, have grace. Yeah, that's going to be nice. Here's our third one. Let's take a listen.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Oh, Ocho, Iso, man, y'all, keep up the good work. When y' y'all are going to have time back on there? I always go watch their beat. again when he said he was at a porter y'all tripping you out that whole episode Ocho this a video or kabee when y'all was talking about a it was a video of Kabid was a video of Kabir when he was like five years old and I saw I work from FedEx so I see the post office trucks all the time the new ones that you're referring to the damn windshield about seven foot tall on
Starting point is 00:50:32 it looks like the alien head of aliens but y'all keep on the good work appreciate it that's exactly what I thought what I saw today I'm like, well, damn. That thing, look at that look like Marvin, that Marvin the Martian, a windshield, big-ass Helman. All right. Here it is on four.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Let's take a listen. Yo, what's up, Nightcap? What's up, Unk? What's up, Ocho? What's up, I, So Joe. I just want to say, man, y'all are, like, wonderful, bro. I've been watching Unleputed since he did,
Starting point is 00:51:04 like, undisputed since he did the little episode of him eating, like, raccoon and stuff. So, man, I just want to say, man, y'all are, like, doing something, like, phenomenal. Not only for like our young generation, but for older people as well. But my one question for Uncun Ocho and for Ice Ojo will be,
Starting point is 00:51:23 what do y'all think about the Lane Kiffin and the Pete Golden matchup week two of this upcoming college football season here in Austin, Mississippi, with Lane Kiffin going to LSU and Pete Golden being the new old Miss head coach. I don't hear y'all thoughts. W. Nightcap Man and keep doing what y'all guys doing. Love y'all. Appreciate you. Look, anytime a coach leaves and leave how Lane left,
Starting point is 00:51:53 there's going to be some tensions. It didn't seem to me that the players are going to miss Lane because they were very, very supportive of Pete Golden. Pete Golding is always going to be appreciative of what Lane did, they gave him an opportunity. But Pete Golden, they're going to try to put Bill up the ass. Chambers is coming back. He appealed to the Mississippi Supreme Court,
Starting point is 00:52:16 so he's going to get a sixth season. He's, I can use this little, I could use this little three, four million dollars that I'm going to pick up, not a little, but anyway, I just, you know, make a lot of the situation. But that's going to be a great game. Because that might be the inside track, you know, who's going to get one of those playoffs,
Starting point is 00:52:33 playoffers, or give them the inside track, Ocho, for guess what, the SEC? See, that's going to be dope. That's going to be a really good. good game. I mean, if there was any bad blood issue, it is now. Yeah. Because you hear the report that Ole Miss had to say, had
Starting point is 00:52:52 to say, you know, was willing to go to what LSU, but, you know, they made promise LSUs like, look, we got 20, 25 million, we're going to get you X, Y, and Z, we're going to bring the coaches in it in whatever we want to do. And so, but I think clearly for whatever reason,
Starting point is 00:53:11 Lane, I mean, you got to the college football playoff. So it's not like you're devoid of talent at Ole Miss. Now, are you going to consistently get the level of talent at Ole Miss that you get the LSU? No. No. No. But we'll find out. that's going to be a game. I can't wait to watch it. Here's our fifth and final one. Let's take a listen. What's up, Nightcap family? Sending love from England. My name's Bonds. I have a couple questions for you guys. Unk, I want to ask you from the UK. We don't watch a lot of American football. If I was trying to get into it, how would you recommend me starting because the rules and the stops, the players don't make much sense to me?
Starting point is 00:53:50 Question about boxing for Ocho. Ocho, what is the most controversial or worse decision made in boxing? Is it GGG versus Canelo 2 or 1? What is your opinion on that? And another question for I-Sojo or Unk, who would you compare Steph Curry, LeBron James, Perry Irving to you in the NFL? What would you, what would be their comparison? Let me know. Again, appreciate you guys for keeping us entertained. I've been watching you guys for a while since your inception, really. Well, it all depends on what position you want to play. I don't know
Starting point is 00:54:21 what you play, but if you knew what you played or how much you weighed or how tall you were, I can tell you what position I think you're suited for. Being honest, I mean, you look like you're fairly big guys, so I'm going to say Ocho proud of the offensive, defensive line. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:37 And defensive line is a lot easier to play than offensive line, because guess what? get the man with the football. Whoever has the man with whoever has the football, go tackle him. Simple. You see, you're here. You got a guy lying in front of you.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Now, either the quarterback's going to have the ball and he's trying to throw it to somebody down the field or he's going to hand the ball out to that guy. Whichever the case may be. If the quarterback has the ball, go knock hell out of him. If the running back has the ball, go knock hell out of him. Now, if you're an offensive lineman,
Starting point is 00:55:10 you see that guy that I just told you, was just trying to knock the hell out of, your job is to protect him. Whether he's the quarterback or the running back, your job is not let the guy knock hell out of either one of them. So for me, I think defense is a little easier to play because of, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:30 defensive line and go get the quarterback. Offensive line, you've got a lot of checks. It might be a combination block. It might be a slip block. You know, might pull. You know, you might change the line protection, no, show. Liz, we go on left.
Starting point is 00:55:41 No, no, rip that, rip that. Now we go right. So me, I would say probably defense. Yeah. And that boxing question, that's a really good one on decisions that could have gone either way. I don't remember exactly which fight it was with Triple G and Canelo. I don't know if it was one or two where I think Triple G actually won that fight. I give you one even better.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Floyd Mayweather Jr. When he fought Jose Luis Castillo. I'm not sure if you remember that in 2002. That fight was so goddamn good and could have gone. either goddamn way and um god damn it was one more i had it on i had it on tip of my tongue that was very very controversial oh my goodness oh when canello fought edithelius laundra laura i'm i'm i'm not how to say it you know laura you know i'm talking about right now when when canello fought laura if you go back and watch that fight i don't know what the judge was looking at that is
Starting point is 00:56:36 also another fight that canela could have lost when he fought laura and that those those are my three thinking, Milrick Taylor and Julio Chavez, senior. When Richard Steele stopped the damn fight. Man,
Starting point is 00:56:57 man, they robbed. They robbed it. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. They robbed it. J. Delfer Bacron. Hey,
Starting point is 00:57:04 I've been slacking. I'm about to roll with you down to the 240s. What's there a goal date? Man, they sent me back. He sent me back. Oh, joy, thank you.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Joy, me getting up going, going to the gym. I'm going to have him to close the gym on and tell him he's not allowed in there. I charge him $100 for a day pass. My birthday, June 26th, I'm going to be down. Be down. I'm be down. You see that on Joe? Hey, hey, hey, oh, we about the same size, huh?
Starting point is 00:57:46 Y'all see that? We about the same size. Matching. at. Y'all ain't never seen that. What did I say, Nick? Incredible Hulk.
Starting point is 00:57:58 What I say, what I is goddamn eye ain't doing me no good. Merkie eye? Barton's five. Orjo, what's a decision
Starting point is 00:58:10 you made in your career that you, that looked like a mistake at the time but actually shaped you into who you are today? Oh, that's a good one. A mistake.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Damn good one. It looked like a mistake. Hell, it was a mistake. And it shaped me for the player I am. I turned out to be, maybe not off the field. But I dropped that goddamn ball on four down against the Indianapolis coach. I think it might have been 2002, maybe 2001.
Starting point is 00:58:40 No, 2002. Then I dropped the ball to keep the drive going to give us a chance to actually win the game. So ain't no telling what would have happened if I caught the ball. I turned the ball over. I dropped the ball. Boy, from that point on, boy, I hadn't dropped a ball in a very long time. and I told myself, I will never be responsible
Starting point is 00:58:59 for being the reason we lose another game. Oh, my goodness. That hurt. In my career, having kids out of way a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Because it puts you in a frame of mind because now, Ocho, I ain't just responsible for shaming anymore. Got my up to feed. I got people, I got real, I got now I got somebody that I'm literally,
Starting point is 00:59:28 responsible for that I didn't ask to come. That I helped create them and bring them into a situation they didn't ask to be in. Right. Man. You're talking about locking in? Yeah. You ain't had no choice.
Starting point is 00:59:44 I didn't know, Joe. You had no choice. Because I already got responsibility. I got, you know, my grandma, my sister, my mom. But now I got, I got really namesakes. Like, damn. Man, how did I get my into this.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Right. And then how did I get myself into this this many times? What the hell? I know how it did. But it was the best decision, Ocho, because I don't know how many of your kids got an opportunity to see you play. All of them, except obviously the last three didn't. They was there front center.
Starting point is 01:00:24 See, that's the thing. All my kids got an opportunity to see me play. They got to see everything. They got to go to Super Bowl. they got to be a part of it, you know. So, who, responsibility, man. Responsibility, man.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Kids make you grow up real fast. Even if you're not ready to grow up. You even got no choice. I have some kids. What's up, Unka-Ocho? Can y'all wish my mom, Anita, Delbridge, a speed of recovery. She's recently had a knee.
Starting point is 01:01:00 replaced. Thanks a lot. Michaela and Jacori. Absolutely. Anita, speed of recovery. Happy birthday. From what I've heard, from what I've heard, the first three to four weeks, so the first three to four weeks of the knee is that it's going to be painful, but you've got to get that range of motion because that's the one thing because it's different than hips. Now, I've heard, I've had hips bilateral, both for my replace.
Starting point is 01:01:25 They say hips are easy and it was, but they say that knee. So you're going to have to stay on top of it. than need them because hey got to get you back out there hey quality of life being able to go and do things with the grand and do things with the kids so we got to get that
Starting point is 01:01:42 knee healthy and strong so happy birthday enjoy this very very special no she just wanted a speedy recovery she didn't want no birthday she had no birthday I told you oh my bad a speedy recovery but hey the first three to four weeks bite down grit down
Starting point is 01:01:59 Hey, and get this thing done. And you know what? I might be having to join you here in the next 6 to 7 months and need to get mine done. But hey, you in the meantime, keep your head up, speedy recovery, and hey, thank you guys for watching. Roger Ward 6.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Hey, Uncle Ocho, do you guys think it's better to be a boxer that can fight or a fighter that can box? Congrats on 2 million. Love the show. Ocho, what is it better? Boy, you got to have a little bit of both. depending on who you fight because if you get in there
Starting point is 01:02:34 if you're boxing you get in there with a pressure fighter that's constantly pressuring you boxing ain't going to work he's going to force you to fight even to force you to fight
Starting point is 01:02:43 so it's good to have a little bit of both or you'll be overwhelmed and all you're taking them goddamn deep waters if you can't fight you think you're going to out box somebody man that's not going to happen that ain't going to happen Hey Quinn SB
Starting point is 01:02:59 A A-Ocho Wish my woman Happy 37th birthday Jill Quinn. This will really make her day when she see this. Absolutely Jill. Happy 3-7. Happy birthday to you.
Starting point is 01:03:16 37 times around the sun. To you. Happy birthday. Dear Jill, who went up the hill. Happy birthday to you. Yeah. Jill, hopefully you had a very
Starting point is 01:03:33 very blessed day. Hopefully you, Quetta, hopefully you did something special for you, lady. But sometimes I think we don't really appreciate know how lucky we are to see another day that we woke up this morning. We were in our right mind. We had use of our limbs and the blood
Starting point is 01:03:52 was still running warm in our veins because somebody had an appointment they couldn't reschedule. Somebody didn't get, not going to get an opportunity to see their birthday. But, Jill, you were very, very special that the man allowed you to open your eyes and know that you have someone that loves you
Starting point is 01:04:09 and cares about you that wanted to share this special day with you. And hopefully you guys did something fun. You went probably got breakfasts, got lunch and dinner. Maybe he took you out for a great dinner, birthday dinner. But I want to thank you guys for supporting nightcap, sending in questions like this.
Starting point is 01:04:26 And Jill, hopefully you had the very best birthday that you had on this earth. Happy 30th, 7th, Jill. Sean underscore show, North Carolina, a sleep on basketball state. We got MJ Worthy, Dominique, Curry, CP3, Wall, Stackhouse. Put some respect on North Carolina. Curry was born in Ohio. Same hospital as LeBron James, so y'all can't claim him.
Starting point is 01:05:03 But of other three, yeah. MJ Worthy, neat, all in the Hall of Fame. Our courage, going to be in the Hall of Fame. CP3, going to be in the Hall of Fame. Now, North Carolina is a state that gets slept on in basketball. They've got some, you know, obviously, you know, you think of basketball, you think of New York or you think in California, things like that. But, no, you guys have put some really good guys into the NBA.
Starting point is 01:05:28 And like I said, MJ Worthy and Dominique, and Currie CP3 were all the top of 75. So I think that goes without saying. North Carolina slept on. Andy Lopez. Ocho, pay that $11,000 in soccer jerse or something, bro. Also switched teams 85 to Bungles trash. Nah, I want a damn no jersey, no soccer jails.
Starting point is 01:05:54 What are you guys going to do to me? I mean, what? Hey, hey, yeah, yeah. It's a lot of them in that. I want cold hard cash. I got by 1,500,500 jerse you can choose. You can keep them all. I want the money.
Starting point is 01:06:11 You sure? I'm 1,000%. I've never been more sure or something in my life. Just let me know you need it. Just break the emergency glass. I got you. I'll be more sure of everything in my life. Black Moses, Cube Living Ledger, all those movies, and his catalog.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Hey, now we know Q music like that. Oh, yeah. In the NWA doing a lot of writing for them. Hey, that was the, you got to realize that's what gangster rap, I mean, that was it. Mm-hmm. I mean, they went hard.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Foxy Mama 4321, Ocho, you never answered my question about bringing your podcast to the FIFA World Cup. Also, I would love for you to interview, excuse me, Creighton Waters on Club. Shee, that would be an awesome interview. Ocho?
Starting point is 01:07:13 She said you ain't answered her question. Man, I'm going to already be at the FIFA World Cup. I mean, we're already going to be there. Matter of fact, hey, Unk, speaking of FIFA World Cup, I'm not sure who that was asked that question. I sat right next to Gianni tonight, the FIFA president. Oh, did you?
Starting point is 01:07:29 Yeah, I was sitting right next to him. So it was cool. We sat there. We chopped it up for a little bit. Of course, me, I couldn't help myself. I asked him to come on the podcast. I mean, listen, somebody like that of that. All he can do is say no. Yeah. Someone of that magnitude.
Starting point is 01:07:44 I mean, I, if he told me no, I mean, it is. I would probably cry right there on the spot. But he said he's going to see what he can do. And that, that was, just hearing that was enough for me. Right. I don't know who Crayton Waters is. Let me look up Crate Waters. Because you know who that is, I'm at you?
Starting point is 01:08:05 Creighton? No. South Carolina, the Attorney General of South Carolina? I guess that's what we are. Like Ocho said, we'll see what we can do. Calvin, 3163. What would he call for if Shannon Sharp stole a rocket from NASA? Wait, who?
Starting point is 01:08:46 What would he call it if Shannon Sharp stole a rocket from NASA? Somebody's trying to be fun. I don't even know. Edgar, 0.55. Yo, Ocho, I wasn't watching football in 2010. But what exactly caused your bingles to decline from 10 and 6 to 4 and 12? Can we get Tio on the show? I mean, that's a good question on what causes decline.
Starting point is 01:09:13 I mean, especially with me and me and T. Offensively, I mean, we just weren't winning. We just weren't winning. I don't, defense is bad, offense is bad. Even with me, T, even with me and T, I mean, the offense is pretty good. I think defense was the problem. I mean, defense is still the problem. I don't gain it.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Was that Tio first year there with you? Yeah, and we went four and 12. Damn. Went four and 12. Damn. Yeah. I don't know what I have. I thought we, I thought, well, offensive, we were pretty good still.
Starting point is 01:09:50 But defensively, if I'm not mistaken, I think we were, we were pretty bad. Yeah. I'm sorry, Ocho, y'all, been bad for a while. We'd be all right. You all going to be good this year? We was good last year And just Joe got hurt No, no, you weren't good though
Starting point is 01:10:11 We was good in 2021 We went to the Super Bowl Oh, Joe, do you know how long ago that's been? How long it's been? You was in your fall You was in your late 30s Oh, my bad My bad
Starting point is 01:10:31 To where you're gonna score, be honest If you lined up against each other In your prime, who's winning that matchup? We play the same, we play basically the same position We play offense How are we going to line up against each other? He'd get me now because, you know, my own knee got bad. Not to help, my knee.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Damn, my knee be hurting. Can't even do all the things I'd be wanting to do, Ocho. What's that? Who bobblehead is that? That's you? Yep. You got hair. They ain't give me no part, though.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Hey, where my Funko at? I don't know. I'm in, I'm in, uh, I'm in, uh, I'm in the A. I got a beanie baby. Hey, you send me, hey, you see me, You see my fun call, I've seen you this. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Okay. Let's see what I got for Yocho. I got something for you, Ocho. I got something for you, something. My jerseys? No, I ain't in. What you call them? I'm in the A.
Starting point is 01:11:58 I trade you. I don't want that. I ain't got nothing, Ocho. I ain't got nothing, man. I'm sorry. I'm worried about it. I'll give you, I got an automatic Uno Shuffler. See?
Starting point is 01:12:31 And then you just pull it off the top. There ain't no cheating. Nah, I don't like that. I like that. Because you be trying to cheat. I like to suffer myself. Nah, because you be trying to. I ain't going to cheat.
Starting point is 01:12:45 I ain't going to cheat. Like I'm going to take your word for that. I ain't going to cheat. Yeah, you know, I don't cheat, man. Yeah, I do know. I do know. Yes, yes, yes. Unfortunately, yes, yes, we do.
Starting point is 01:12:55 know. Thank you guys for joining us. We really, really appreciate that tonight. Great night for fighting, UFC and boxing. Tyson Fury makes his return, but there was some great fights in the UFC. Thank you guys. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite. That's my partner and co-host. Being a ring of fame honorary, a former pro bowler and an all pro, that is Chad Ocho Sinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the nightcap podcast feet wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by Laporteur,
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Starting point is 01:13:53 That concludes this episode of Nightcap. y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc and that is my partner and co-host. We will be back tomorrow with ISO. So thank you guys again. I'm up. He's Ocho. We're out for tonight.
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