Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Russell Westbrook makes history, Shaq feels disrespected, KeKe Palmer on Club Shay Shay

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and J.R. Smith react to Denver Nuggets’ Russell Westbrook being the first NBA player to record 200 triple-doubles. Later, Unc, Ocho and J.R. discuss Shaq feeling disrespected for never being included in the GOAT conversation, the guys react to KeKe Palmer joining Unc on Club Shay Shay and saying her parents split the finances 50/50 and much more!03:13 - Russell Westbrook 1st player in history to record 200 triple doubles12:55 - Lebron on DK16:30 - Shaq being excluded from GOAT debate32:15 - Taylor Knibb wins triathlon poops pants36:17 - Keke Palmer on Club Shay Shay51:11 - Woman starts viral debate about bathing1:01:30 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But, like, I don't think people talk about his intensity that he brings to the game, even still right now. Like, when he first came into the league, he was able to make an impression just because he was so athletic and he was like he obviously had kd but like his intensity that he played with he's one of the smartest players i've played against he's in your face he's guarding he's taking on the challenge one-on-one whoever the next person is he ain't really passing it off like even when him and dame used to have it back and forth, he's guarding Dane.

It ain't like, oh, all right, so-and-so, go guard him, and then on the other end, somebody going to guard me, so our matchup is get your numbers against somebody else opposed to your matchup. No, he's taking the matchup head on. So for me, man, he's one of the greatest of all time. I love Russ, dog. He's got a great heart, like more than anything.

He's just a great person, man. Russ is like, honestly, man, he's one of those rare people who really have a true balance of who they are on the court and who they are off the court. Because you can lose who you are in between the media line and, and in real life or, and just on like, for me,

I lose it. And in the sense of, I, I'm always aware of where I am and who I'm with and what I'm doing, because people already anticipate me to be on some, some bull jump. Like they got a perception of me that I'm already on some BS.

So in my mind, I'm wearing a tuxedo. I'm here. So it's a different, it's a fine line, but for him, I really love his balance between his normal life with his kids and his wife and his ability to play basketball and flourish.

Yeah. I mean, I, I, I like, I like Russ. I like Russ a lot, you know,

just watching him. And like, like JR said, I like the fact that the person you see on the court is exactly the same person you see off the court. He's authentic. There's something, there's something about Russell man is, is, is aura, the way he plays, the energy he plays with, the, the exactly the same person you see off the court he's authentic there's something there's something about russell man is is or the way he plays the energy he plays with the the passion

it just it reminds me of of a comparison and i'm gonna use football for better context for those that are watching he reminds me of steve smith senior he plays with a chip on his shoulder he plays angry he plays violent he. He just plays hard. Every play he thinks is his last. He goes all out. Yeah, it's like somebody pissed him off. He played like somebody pissed him off. And I have an appreciation for him and a love for his game.

He doesn't get a lot of credit. You know, the credit I think he deserves. A lot of people, you know, make fun of him. Maybe, you know, by his shooting, he's not shooting. And when he has an off night, they're picking at him based on what he's accomplished. Obviously, he's a great player.

The scrutiny is a little bit harsh more than others because they expect more from him. Two-time MVP, by the way. Yeah, he won the MVP with a triple. Nobody thought it could be done again after Oscar did it. Yeah, he won the MVP with a triple. He won the average. Nobody thought it could be done again after Oscar did it.

And Russ did it for an entire. As a matter of fact, he did it like three or four times. Four times? Yeah, he did it three or four times. And so it just goes to show. I mean, the thing that I can say about him, man, that joker played hard every effing game. Every game? Every game of his entire NBA career.

I saw him, I think it was his freshman year when they went to the NCAA. They went to the title game. I think that was it. They played in Indy. I think they played in Indy. I think that was his freshman year or maybe his sophomore year. Maybe his freshman year. Oh, UCLA, yeah? Yeah, UCLA.

Yeah. No, I think he came out as a sophomore. Did he? Yeah, I think so. It's crazy because when I was working out with him, and I can see now in the best thought or thing that I can put to mind, what it was like when Marshawn was saying, I just want to like,

if I hit you in the face, I hit you on this play, then I hit you again. Then I hit you again. And then I hit you again. Eventually you're going to fold, but I'm going to hit you again. And then I'm like,

that's how I think about Russ. Like, it ain't no, there's no, I'm going through you. A lot of people can go around you, can go over you, can go do this and that, I'm going through you. A lot of people can go around you, can go over you, can go do this and that. I'm going through you. And I love that. I love that shit.

Yeah. He's a generational talent too. For sure. Is his career, do we think of him different had he stayed in OKC? I think going to what he went to Houston, then he went to Washington, then he came to the Lakers, then he went to the Clippers.

Now Denver. Now somebody bought him out. Didn't he go to Utah? Yeah, he went to Utah. Utah bought him out. Then he went to Denver. Now. Right.

Yeah. No, I don't think I'd take away from him because it's like Melo. I don't think I'd take away from his credibility. I mean, I know he doesn't – I know Melo don't have the stats and awards or whatever, but, like, when you start jumping around from team to team at the end of your career. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's kind of like Shaq at the tail end.

Yeah. Like, I don't think I'd take away from him. Yeah. I don't think so because it's not like he's... To me, it's not like... For a person like Russ or a player like Russ, I don't think he's searching

for a championship. He's searching to play for the genuine love of the game. He genuinely loves the game. He loves the atmosphere. He, like... There's nothing more that he's really looking for

on an accolade standpoint to, like, oh, I gotta... Or for the outside approval to like, I got to I got to feel I got to fill this void within myself about how y'all feel about me. He ain't that type of person. So for him, I feel like it's a different look at it from other people's in their careers and where they're at in certain conversations. Think about what OKC had. They had a guy that got 200 triple doubles. Every guy that they had won an MVP, be it an OKC or somewhere else. You got James Harden, got 3,000 threes. You got Kevin Durant is about to hit 30,000 points. And you had them all on the same team under the age of 25. But you couldn't keep but two.

They should have went ahead and gave that other $5 million to Jay. It was basically a $5 million a year difference. And they kept what? You're going to the luxury tax. But you keep Serge? Hell no. Serge? I'm going to make a Serge to get James Harden. That's the only Serge I know. That's what I'm saying though.

But that's the person they kept, right? They kept Serge. Yeah. Bro, you lose. You aren't winning. So you have three MVPs. You get it all the way right except for the last move and and you keep the surge. Yeah. No.

Damn. That's Sam Presley, isn't it? Yep. Poor management. Because he can pick them. Nah, you can't say it's poor management. He picked three MVPs now. You can't let them go.

You don't let them go. I mean, I. You can't let him go. I mean, I get you can't let him go, but you got to make one mistake within the... How many years you said? Six, huh? Yeah. You draft KD, you draft Russ, then you draft Harden. That's crazy. And Jeff Green

with KD here. You know what? Do you think they would have won a championship at any point if they had stayed together I believe they would have I think their best opportunity would have been when Brown's first year back in Cleveland what year that was what 14 15

15 no 14 14 that's when James had just went to Houston it would have been his second year in Houston yeah that's when James was like really like oh my god oh my god

he came out the gate 45 50, 55 oh my god but that just goes to show you he needed his own team coming off the bench He needed his own team. He was coming off the bench. He needed his own team.

Yeah. It was not you can do without him, though. It was a snowball effect for not last. Who they lost to? Miami? Yeah. After that series, well, who didn't beat Dallas before they got to Miami? And Miami beat them. In that series, you could really tell he really came into his own.

He didn't have that good of a series because I think Miami had a great game plan. They jumped screens really hard, and it was hard for them to pass out a double team at the time. But that next year, it was perfect timing for him. Ooh. After rookie Dawn Connect's 37 37 point performance last night, LeBron talked about the Lakers front office draft and don't connect. They didn't find DK.

They didn't find DK. The other 16 teams amped it up. Hmm. He can shoot it. He can shoot it. And he's perfect because LeBron can find him anywhere. He can find it from the cross court. He can hit him with the hammer pass.

You know, hey, LeBron drives and can kick from one side to the other. So he couldn't have gone to a better place, and he's a scorer because he can do more than shoot the three. I watch him put the ball on the floor and flush it. I watch him get all the way to the rim on people's switch. I watch him put the ball on the floor. By no means, and Caleb, I love you, but by no

means I'm comparing you to him, but from a shooting aspect and being able to space the floor, that's a great addition for the Lakers and LeBron. You got a four or five

that can space the floor set screens um can you pick and pop get open like that's the recipe for disaster because then you leave a opportunity for him to get downhill or if if worse kind of worse he's shoulder on shoulder against somebody in a great position to where he's usually getting fouled shooting free throws if they do double he kicking back to a dead-eye shooter. And for them, that's what they need. They need way more dead-eye shooters than streaky shooters. Right. Yes, and that's what he is.

Because prior to him, they were streaky. LeBron can get hot. Colby at the Ozarks, Austin Reeves can get hot. D-Lo can get hot. AD can make a couple. But they didn't have a guy that really, when he shoot it, you expected to go in. That's the kind of reputation

Swish and Ocho that he's built up for himself, that he's not streaky. He can shoot the ball. But he's more than just a three-point shoot. That's a lot of pressure. When you get that ball more than just a three-point shooter. That's a lot of pressure. When you get that ball and everybody, all you hear in the crowd is, oh, like they are in anticipation to make shots. There we go.

Oh, yeah. And that's a ball game. And that's what we're playing. And, bro, you ain't just playing alongside anybody. No, sir. Oh, yeah. No, sir. Ringling Brothers. First of sir. Ringling Brothers.

First of all, Ringling Brothers. We're going to bring on the whole shebang coming in. Yes, yes. You playing with a historic franchise alongside a historic player. And we know what the expectations are. Even LeBron playing with us right now, Switch. Me, you, Ocho, Jordan, and Ash. They still expect that man to win

45, 50 games and make a deep run in the playoffs. And no matter who his teammates is, they're going to talk trash, man. You should have got him there. I don't care. Ocho shot 25% from three. I don't care. You were supposed to influence him to make him 38.

Hypothetical. I know you got a better shot than that. Yeah, I know. Listen, I shot 62% from three in high school, though. I'm just throwing that out there. Are you going to let us lie, or? Hey, you'll learn how to just, you know,

just like, okay. Just keep it moving I let him have his moment I give him like a couple times a week I let him have his moment like yeah Ocho that seems about right and then other times I just keep it moving okay Shaq being excluded

it's on YouTube Shaq being Shaq on being excluded from the GOAT debate that ish eats me alive shack's illustrious career has cemented him as one of the most dominant forces in nba history yet for all the accolades four championships three finals mvp a 15-time all-star shack finds himself notably absent from the goat debate on a recent episode of the big podcast, Shaq expressed frustration that lingers after his retirement. You know what eats me?

Not having five, not having six, not being in the conversation for the greatest of all time. Yeah, you're the most dominant big man when y'all talk about the greatest of all time. You're not even mentioned. That eats me alive. I have a question. Yes. Hypothetically speaking, Jay, either one of y'all, if Shaq has six titles in the same end-of-season accolades as he has, do you think he ranks or would be in the GOAT debate?

If he has six titles, three finals MVPs, two… He'd be 15-time All-Star. But he has zero… Hold on. Shaquille O'Neal has zero MVP's seasonal? One. One. Yes.

Damn, that's crazy. But he has six titles. Hypothetically speaking. I think 2,000. I think he won it in 2,000. Because I think Iverson won it in no one. If I'm not mistaken. Shaq has one MVP?

That's impressive. That's impressive. Wow. Does it change if he has six titles? He won the MVP in 99. No. I don't think it changes. He's still not in the gold debate. Ouch. How? Because you got

Kareem with six and six. You got Mike with six and six. What do you want me to do? Mike got six titlesareem with 6-6. You got Mike with 6-6. What do you want me to do? Mike got six titles, got five regular season MVP. You got Bron with four and four. He has six finals MVPs. He has six finals MVPs, five regular season. Kareem

got six regular season MVPs, five championships. I mean, he got six regular season MVPs, he got six titles, and he got two finals MVPs. Kareem titles. And he got two finals MVPs. Kareem won the finals MVP at like 37-38. Wait, he only got two out of the seven? Who that?

Kareem got two out of the six. He got two out of the six? Yeah, because James Worthy got one and Magic got the other three. So he got two, Worthy got one, Magic got three. I didn't know that. Magic was cold. Oh, yeah, for sure. You got to realize, we'll never see another Magic Johnson.

Magic won the finals MVP as a rookie. 20 years old. I didn't know he won three when Cat was on the team, though. That's tough. I didn't know that. Yes. That's cold. Yeah, absolutely, yes. I knew when he won, Cat was hurt.

I knew that for sure. But that's tough. You got Bill Russell, guys. Bill Russell won five regular season MVPs. He won 11 championships. Damn. You got Will. He got four regular season MVPs. I think he got two championships.

How many Russell finals MVPs? Do they keep giving him the koozie? No, no, because here's the thing. The finals MVP didn't become a part of it until 1969. Jerry West won it. He was the first finals MVP, but he won it on a losing team. Jerry West was cold as mud, though. Yes.

Damn. Oh, yeah, Shaq. I don't know, though. I don't think Shaq should be. Me, personally, I wouldn't list him in the GOAT conversation. How? Like, I would put Kareem up there. I mean, not Kareem.

I mean, yeah, Kareem. Yeah, you gotta put Kareem. I was gonna say that. I would put Hakeem up there. I wouldn't put Shaq. I'm just starting, like, centers. Like, trying to put more comparable people. Like, Hakeem?

First of all, Hakeem dominated Shaq. Two chips. I mean, he had two finals MVPs in both. Defensive player of the year. He cooked every big. You remember that year that they gave the finals MVP? They gave the regular season MVP to David Robinson

and they met in the semifinals and he cooked. No, he cooked him, Ocho. Wheninals and he cooked no, he cooked him, Ocho. When I say he cooked him Yeah. He tore him up. Yes. Yeah, yes.

Yes. Kareem Biggs have never gotten the credit they deserve because they say, well, you need somebody to get you the ball. So Kareem doesn't get the credit that he deserves. No. People don't realize how good Kareem was because prior to 1980, the players voted for the regular season MVP.

So that season that Will averaged 50 and 25, he didn't win the MVP. Bill Russell did. So prior to that, and they're like, hold on, wait a minute, something didn't win the MVP. Bill Russell did. So proud of that. And they're like, hold on, wait a minute. Something ain't right. Because you know how it is. Player don't like somebody. I ain't vote for it.

So they took it from the players and gave it to the media. Now the media say, well, media be hating too. Because, Ocho, you know how it is. Because we vote, we get a third of the vote for the Pro Bowl. So it's us, the fans and the coaches but

Shaq was unbelievable and that's the problem I just wish Shaq would have taken it and said you know what I'm going to get into shape I'm going to stay in shape for a decade and I'm going to work on my free throws

yes I'm going to expand my game because you're never going to see a guy like Shaq you're never going to see a guy that big that athletic, can run like he can run that can jump like he can jump you're never going to see that again in your lifetime you saw Haley's comment

that's what Shaq was I'm going to put it in an astronomy turn. You saw Haley's Comet. Once every 75 to 79 years, it comes around. You just hope you're old enough to when you see it, you remember it.

That's what Shaq was. 100%. That's what he was. To be able to run. He's in B's size, but in B, you couldn't touch him in athleticism. The way Shaq could get up%. That's what he was. To be able to run. He's Embiid's size, but Embiid couldn't touch him in athleticism. The way Shaq can get up and down the court. I don't think it's a big right now.

And true athleticism and size that can mess with him. I haven't seen it since Dwight, but Dwight was built different. Yeah. Like, honestly, like, Dwight

just didn't have the weight behind him that Shaq had. He didn't have the weight, but Shaq didn't have the lift that Dwight had. No, no, no, no, no, no. Dwight had, you know. Dwight was over top of everything. He could jump over the top of the box. Shaq had that weight to where, like, if I get up over here here and you go

and your shit is right here, it might come off. Yeah, he gonna break it. I don't know why anybody would ever try to block Shaq though. He gonna hurt you. Rest in peace to Kimbae, man. When he did the deke, that was disrespectful, man.

When he did the deke in the finals, man, that was crazy. And that's what eats at it because he knows he left some food on the plate. That's what eats at it, Mocho. Got to be. That's what eats at it. And that's why I'm saying you put all of them

because once it's over, it's over, Ocho. That's why I can lay my head on a pillow. I got everything out of my God-given ability. I exhausted everything. Whatever, you know, I couldn't have done anything else with what God gave me. Let me ask you this, bro. So you think that

04, that keeps Shaq up at night every night. That Detroit team, Ben Wallace, like he thinking, man, if I was Shaq then, I could have put an extra 15 minutes in here and there and we could have dominated them. It wouldn't even be no question.

That little beat me and Kobe had wasn't nothing. I think, Swish, is that he looks at it and he says, yes, Kobe and I got three, but we should have had five. Right. I should have had more MVPs. I feel that.

Now, I go to my grave believing that his year in Miami, he should have been the MVP. Yeah. But they gave it to Steve Nash. Steve Nash did what, like 65 games? They were high-flying. I mean, he led the league in assists, but Shaq knows it.

That's why it keeps him up. That's why it bothers him. He's supposed to be in the conversation. Because guess what? You know who's going to be in that conversation? If he keeps playing like this? Nikola Jokic. Jokic, yeah.

He got three in four years. Wait, hold on. If who keep up playing like what? Jokic. He wins another, a couple of championships. He passed them. What you mean? No, but I'm saying, no, in the GOAT conversation.

Against, compared to who? Shaq? No, I think people are going to say, no, he's going to be in the conversation when we talk about the GOAT, the the five whatever, the five best players. For sure. I don't know people this man is averaging 30,

13, no 30, 14 and 12. That's what I thought you were saying, comparison to Shaq. He passed Shaq to me. No disrespect to Shaq. He's light years past that. With a man who can't get off the, who can't jump over No disrespect to Shaq. He's light years past that. What's up, man? Who can't jump over this phone? Come on, you better get out of here.

This man over here, a horse jockey in the summertime. Man, you better stop it. I don't think he's past Shaq yet. I think if he gets another finals MVP, because for the next three years, he's going to be in the running for MVP, regular season MVP. It's lunch meat. Like how you talk about Shaq, when he plays as any other big,

including Joel Embiid, it's lunch meat. He's hitting people with Kareem shit. Fake here, fake there, fake there. One-legged three, cash, nothing but net. Not even a rim. His threes, late shot clock, I don't know if anybody realized it, that shit hit all draws.

He killed the Lakers that year, that championship. How many of those he hit against the Lakers with? Come on, man. I'm just sitting watching them. Two, one, slingshot, cash. But look, Sha slingshot. Cash. But look, Shaq had an unbelievable career. Because when you

saw him at LSU, you was like, damn, that man, he that big? 7'1", 300 pounds, and he's moving like that? Now that's the Shaq was jumping out the building. No, for sure. I mean, that skinny Shaq, the skinny Shaack was still

300. Yeah, oh for sure. Boy, could he move. Hey, he fazed the Knicks. Give me a Okay, so modern day best two right well, let me say second best two because I guess MJ was the best two back then.

So second best two. You go between Devin Booker and Anthony Edwards. Put them in. Ant-Man? Yeah. He the second best two? No, you say the two best twos right now, Ant-Man and Book. Okay.

Okay, so back in the day, you say MJ or Kobe or best two man. Maybe some people will say Clyde back in the day. Clyde, yeah. Clyde, when Joy was in his prime in the 80s and early 90s, most people would say it was Clyde. It was Clyde and Mike.

So just to say Ant or D-Book with Buddy Jokic. Woo! with Buddy Jokic. That'd be a problem. I don't know. I like that a lot. I mean, obviously, Kobe

is Kobe, but if Jokic and Ant versus... Only because I know Ant is going to step up as a competitor against Cole, I like my chances. Yeah, I think because Jokic is

a better passer, I'm not breaking news here because here's the guy that can average. He'd probably be the next guy to average the triple-double because he can pass out of the double. I mean, he can hand off. He can slip. I mean, he can pick and pop. I mean, he really doesn't have –

offensively, Yoke doesn't have a weakness. He can shoot the three well enough that you got to guard it. He can put the ball on the floor. He up fake you, put the ball on the floor, and teardrop you off the glass. Hey, he can post you and spin. He's going to make 80% of his free throws. I just, like I said, I just, you know, and I know.

And that's the thing. And I feel that's what I always try to tell people, Ocho, maximize it. Because when it's over, it's over. It's over. And then you have to deal with the what ifs. Man, if I had just, that's why I didn i had just that's why i didn't do that's why i didn't do the things that i did when i played ocho because now when i walked away what nothing's going to change the perception if i came back for another year i go to another

pro bowl that's not going to change the way people think of me at all but i just knew that hey i did everything i possibly could i'm gone and i think I think that bothers Shaq. And I feel bad for him because a lot of times, stuff like that haunts you. It does. Even as accomplished as Shaq is, Shaq's probably worth $700, $800 million. But he remembers what got away. For sure.

Not what he actually had. Hell yeah. Right. I played so many finals, man. We lost. Oh, my God. One, if Kyrie and Kev don't get hurt, we win that one. KD did what he did.

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questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafak, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.

To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Olympic triathlete Taylor Nib won the inaugural T100 Triathlon World Championship Finals this past Saturday. There was one small problem she had as she neared the finish line.

In a viral video making the rounds online, she noticed the cameraman next to her and she says I just pooped myself so can you not get a picture of my ass? Thank you. Sorry. The cameraman agreed and she made her way to the finish

line with a poopy boot. Well, you know, obviously running a triathlon, you don't have a time to take a break. You don't have time to take a break. There's really no rest if you're actually trying to win. She probably ate something she shouldn't have before she did the race. Obviously, in order to compete at a level

like that to be able to run a triathlon, you have to eat. Probably them gel packs, Ocho. Them gel packs will get you. When you run it, the gel packs. Yeah, man, them gel packs, man. I'm telling you, leave them alone. If I don't have someone to spin by, I'll be taking a three-hour spin class.

You said three-hour spin class. You said three-hour spin class. Yeah. Yeah. They had a class where they would have two teachers. So the lady, one person would go for an hour and a half, and then the next lady would come in and go, and the next person would come in and go for an hour and a half.

But hey, them jail packs will get you, Ocho. I ain't gonna lie to you, Ocho. They'll get you. I know what you're talking about. I've never had them before, but I know what you're talking about. What the hell kind of workouts you doing three-hour spin class? Man, I got to get it in. What kind of days you got to spend three hours on the bike? Oh, man.

Swish, I would take six spin classes a day. Oh, my God. Oh, Swish.ish. I would take six spin classes a day. Oh, my God. Oh, Swish. Man, I could burn. I was burning in a day. I was burning 4,000, 5,000 calories. That's why y'all eat like that. I eat four or five times a day.

Full course, big ass Thanksgiving meals and shit. And she won 210,000. I don't know if that's enough to keep me running with booty, with a dookie in my booty. Nah, that's out. I bet. Oh, I was like, alright, they gotta behave. I get the next one. Nah, man.

I mean, I hate hopping for you. You out of toilet paper, you gotta hop. God dang! Yeah. Pants down by your ankle. So are you going to keep running Ocho? Oh yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. You call me shitty all you want. Yeah, I'm shitty. That's exactly what I call you. Shitty booty. I be shitty with this Oakley deal. He's talking about, hey, y'all dirty, boy. I can't believe y'all.

Jack, can you believe Ocho? Hey, man, listen, man. I've been through worse. Nah. But congratulations, Taylor. Job well done. Hey, sometimes it happens. Gotta go. Sometimes it happens.

I like that she has the respect. Yeah, but because a lot of times sometimes you don't know it because you think you let some wind go. You're like, oh, damn. Oh, yeah.

She's like, ah, nah. It's real loose back there it's real squishy mhm hey oh 79% of y'all well y'all sub count and y'all want me to come to my house for Thanksgiving oh hell nah

nah I'm good I can't have a bad nah nah nah hell no he gonna keep it going Kiki Palmer

I had on the podcast I don't know if you saw. Kiki Palmer, I had on the podcast, Ocho, I don't know if you saw it. Kiki Palmer revealed that on Club Shea Shea that her mom and her dad went 50-50. Fire. I like that. I like that. But obviously, Unc, you got to understand, depending on who you deal with,

we're in different times now. A lot of women aren't really looking for partners. A lot of women are looking't really looking for partners a lot of women looking for sponsors yeah many many won't agree with the 50 50 thing now there there are some you know that that come with the understanding and will pull their end of the stick you know some some are willing to go 60 40. so you know some men really want to be 80-20. And then there are some men that want to be full providers as well, where they want to be able to keep whatever money she makes.

So she's able to do what she wants to do. And then if you're not in that type of situation, every man you meet won't be in a position to be able to go 80-20. Sometimes you might have to meet someone half way where you go 50-50 and you make it a little easy for yourself. And some women don't even want that.

Well, they'd rather pay everything 100% and take their chances and find someone that's willing to pick up the heavy load of whatever it is you know that they come with whatever that may be but I mean sometimes in in in some cases women are a little bit I hate using this word a little bit delusional understanding and thinking they're going to find a man that's going to take everything. All the time, though. That ain't happening. No, it's happening. No, it's definitely happening. I don't mind it.

Look here. I'm old fashioned. It depends on who the woman is. Oh, sure. I'm old fashioned. I'll take care of it. But sometimes, like, hey, Shannon, I want to take you to dinner. Shannon, I want to pay for this. Shannon, I

want to pay for that. Just offer. I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no. Now, I have had a situation where I took a young lady out and she knew I always paid for

everything. She had already taken care of it. So when I went to pay for it, the service said, Mr. Sharp, it's already been taken care of. I'm like, you dirty. I love it. But I was like, okay. I love that.

Yeah. First of all, you gotta let a lady take you out now. you gotta let a lady take you out now you gotta let it you gotta let them pamper you too dog you gotta let them give you 20 dollars get your hair cut down you know i'm saying you know me go get your 15 get your nails done and shit like come on it's just hard it's just hard it's just honestly guys it's just hard for me to relax like that because that's just not the way I was brought up. You know, we you know, I'm from that school that, you know, the man took care of everything.

You did everything. And, you know, even when it's like, you know, I want to I just it's just hard for me to relax. But I appreciate the gesture. Like I said, just sometimes they would say, you know what? I want to do this. I want to do that. I mean, yeah, I've had, you know, I go to the same person to get my nails done and Mr. Shannon, somebody

is already taking care of it. I ain't know somebody. I know who did it because that's the only person that know where I get my nails done. But I guess that works for them. I mean, sometimes 50-50 switch, 50-50, 60-40, it might not work. Yeah.

My mom and my dad have been married 44 years. My dad took care of all the bills and everything. My mom and my house mom did her thing and held her thing down. Whether my mom was paying 50 or my mom was still not paying nothing like she's doing now,

she was going to talk anyway. So regardless of what we're paying or what we're not paying, they're going She was going to talk anyway. So regardless of what we paying or what we not paying, they're going to say they're lying anyway. So you might as well get through with that. Yeah. Go ahead, Ocho. I'm going to say another

thing. Women can't really relinquish all their power, all their leverage. If you have a guy that's going 80-20 or a Swiss, like you you said there's some dudes out here depending on who the woman is and those are those tier one women where they have men that are taking care of 100 of everything then they have no leverage on they have no power you're at their mercy you're being controlled because they are the means in which you're able to survive

and live i don't think they want no power. I don't think they want no power. It's too much. It's too much accountability. I'm not that big of a control freak. I don't like having a situation where I take care of everything and then all of a sudden you feel that I'm the king and you got to accu-west everything. I'll say, no, I want you

look, I want you to say your piece. I might not agree with it and I might not do it. But I just don't ever want you to say your piece I might not agree with it and I might not do it but I just don't ever want you to feel and I hate that that because I pay for everything I'm taking you know I'm taking on the responsibility of taking care of you

that you feel that you can't say or you don't have no say in the house now still I might not listen I might not do it but I still want to hear what you got to say. And then I might, because I want you to have, this is not a dictatorship. Somebody once told me,

I'll preserve democracy. I don't practice it here. This is a dictatorship. I ain't like that. Because I want everybody to have their say. Because I know what it's like when you, you know, my grandfather ran with an iron fist he paid all the bills, you did exactly what he

said or he like don't grumble and stay, grumble and leave I don't ever want a woman to feel that way with me but it's different though we're in a different era them boys

I mean, them big boys that can everything. Everything. Everything. Everything. Yeah, because, hold on. I was, you know,

I try to break up a little hair. Hair $250 for the hair. Hair is another $150 for the nail. $400. They talking about, you need to invest in the LLC. LLC? I got a homeboy in Glivio named LC. That's the only C.

You can drop that other L because there ain't no LLC. The only LLC, that's going to be 84 Incorporated. It's a different world out there, man. It is. Oh Incorporated. It's a different world out there, man. Oh, I see. It's a different world. But guys, tell me what I'm getting. If I'm doing all that, what do I get? Doing all what?

Paying everything? Yeah. What I'm getting? The same thing you get if you was paying 50-50. Right. If not even less. Dang, though. No, for real. Because you got to think, like, modern day, they don't know how to cook. They don't want to clean.

They don't want to do nothing. That's the thing. But then, so you do all of this. Then you got to get a maid. Then you got to get a chef. And then you got to get a nanny. And then you got to get this. And then you got to go get that.

It's like, dog, by the time I did all this, I could've fell in love with the right person that could've been a Swiss Army Knight. But that has happened to me, though. I had a lady talk, because like you said, what you just said, Swish,

I had somebody clean the house, had somebody come in and cook the meals. Somebody, the laundry, take the laundry. The groomers, she didn't have to wash the pet. The groomers come to the house, wash the pets twice a month. Somebody clean, somebody cook, somebody did the laundry. She didn't did. And I remember one day she came home and she's like,

Jenna, what exactly do you need me for? I'm like, what are you talking about? So now I'm out of jumping. What are you talking about? She's like, Shannon, you have somebody to cook. You have somebody to clean. You have somebody to run the errands. I don't do anything with i don't

have to uh you walk the dogs the dogs get groomed you have somebody pick up the dry cleaning dry cleaning you literally could pay somebody just to have sex because that's really all that i do and it really never i'm thinking oh joe that I'm like hey she really like this she got it you know she got it made right right right that is what she wanted she wanted to feel like I had it she wanted to feel she had a purpose

she wanted to feel useful you might need to find her in a black book you better find her in a black book. You better find her. I'm spitting that block. Spitting that block. Nah.

Nah. They don't make it like that no more. Nah. You ain't got nothing for me to do. What? Who? You know what you can do over here?

Y'all great. Like I said, I've never gone 50-50 with a woman. I've always taken up everything. Even, guys, I'm 56. I've never had a key. Even, guys, I'm 56. I've never had a key to a woman's apartment.

She had a key to yours? Yeah. Did you get it back? Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, I'll tell that story another time, Wachov. Hold on, hold on. But no, I've never had a've never, I've never had a key

and I've, even she's never left me the key. I've never gone to my place of employment and picked up the key and was there. I've never,

I've never showed up unannounced at a woman's home. I ain't, I ain't never showed up unannounced, but the key situation, I done,

I done had a key. I've never had a key. Oh, so you never had a key. I never had a key. Ocho, you never had a key? Who, me? You had a key, dog. I got a key right now. I'm not sure that motherfucker works. I ain't gonna lie.

Don't do that, Ocho. Real got military training. Don't do that. Real got military training. No, no, no. I got my bulletproof vest. Hold on. So we using names and we talking?

I seen the comments and shit. Ultra, what's going on, man? Talk to me, dog. Oh, no. We good. That shit so goddamn fake. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Keep working on himself

he working on himself and hey that's what need to happen and that shit so god damn fake saying no more yeah man I was gonna say something but I said you know what I ain't finna give a table legs you shouldn't

yeah yeah you better go get that plate. Oh, yeah. I talked to Sister Day. I know you did. And I was like, hey, what you think about Thanksgiving? Can I come get a plate?

Yeah, you can come see your child. You can come see your child. I don't know if I'm going to feed you. You get a plate. That one thing I know about my niece, she's going to make sure you fed. You get your bald, black bald head,

you know what about it. She ain't going to let you go way up the head. Yeah, but that was some bullshit. But in all honesty, do women in today's society, do they still cling?

No. They straighten up. That's different, dog. Man, I heard that term a long time. That's an old ass term there. Yeah, they straighten up. They don't cling. I ain't got a lot of them. Man, I got that turn a long time. That's an old ass turn there. Yeah, they straight up. They don't clean. I ain't got a lot of them.

Man, I got a solid one. She be throwing down. Like, we still got a little thing in the service and shit. But like, for her background and where she come from, it's a humbling experience for her and me. So it's like, it's an appreciation level on both sides to be like oh damn like i know you're not this is you out of your realm and you out of your element but you

pick up the slack here and i feel like it works both ways so it's like it's hard to find that hey ain't nothing wrong with that bro hey because i've never i mean I'm trying to think I've never not had someone to like clean yeah so I have a service that comes in three times a week normally had a service come in two times a week um they wash they iron they fold yeah you know I have I have I if if I didn't tell you you wouldn't know that I have animals because everything is so clean and so in place, so forth and so on. But I can get how someone that's in my life would feel useless.

I've never booked a hotel room. I've never booked a reservation. I've never booked a rental car. Somebody's always done that for me. People don't understand that. they don't get that logic or like understanding of like wait what nobody's ever like no like i've never done that yeah like so i wouldn't even know i wouldn't even know how to get on i wouldn't even know how to get on the thing and get a ticket i'll be done

paid ten thousand dollars to go from here to go from LA to Atlanta. And I'll be done getting on the wrong flight because I'm like, oh, I thought I... But hey, I'm going to get back. You know what? I'm going to book myself a ticket. I'm going to book myself my own flight, my own ticket, but I got to get... Hold on.

How would I... I got to get on that... I have to go to like delta.com or something, huh? I just can't... Nah, spirit. Spirit.com or something. I just can't. Nah, Spirit. How would I book a hotel? Oh, there's an app? What about hotel? How do I book a hotel?

Expedia. That's obvious. Oh, okay. I'm going to do that. I'm going to book my own flight. I don't need nobody to book my flight. There you go. That ain'm going to do that. I'm going to book my own flight. I don't need nobody to book my flight. There you go. That ain't going to go well.

Ash already knows. He's going to show up, no car. He's got no bags packed. He's going to put the wrong day in. That's what I'm afraid of, Ocho. Get there and I'm going to be mad. Boy? That's December 31st.

Nah, I'm going to let Shelly handle that. A woman started a very intense debate on Twitter this week. When y'all wash y'all body, do y'all Oh, hold on, no, no. When y'all wash y'all booty, ain't nobody booty. Do y'all... Oh, hold on, hold on. When y'all wash your booty, ain't no body. Booty.

Do y'all wipe up and down? Or do you stick your... Oh, whoa! That's aggressive. What you talking about, man? There it is right there on your screen, though, Joe. That sound aggressive.

Yeah, that's real aggressive. It's very personal. But it's always front to back. Now, you know that. You know that. You're always front to back. Do you use the same. You know that. You're always front to back. Do you use the same cloth to wipe your butt

where you wash your face with? You have two washcloths on. I'm not sure. My ass is my face. One of them. I ain't got but one. That's too much laundry. I don't wash my face

with a washcloth, though. What you washing with? Your hands? You got them gloves? The loofah? No, I got the gloves and then I got an exfoliant that I also put in my hand

and do the exfoliant shit. I don't do all of the wash because that's too wild for my face. Yeah. For me, obviously, when you say it's too much laundry, every time when I travel, I only bring one outfit no matter where I'm going.

Sometimes if I'm in more than three days, I'm going to wear that bitch every goddamn day because I leave room in my suitcase because I steal all my hotel towels. So it keeps me from having to buy towels because when you buy towels from Walmart, you buy towels from Target, they never dry you off the right way. So I always steal the hotel towels because they're already broken in. Yeah. So I always have two towels. The dermatologist told me I needed to stop that.

And wanted to wash my body. Yeah, the dermatologist told me I needed to stop using the cloth that I wash my body with. She said I didn't need to use that on my face. Yeah, you're not supposed to. What are you doing? You talking about a dry cloth?

Hold on. So you thought we had two towels? You thought we had two face cloths? Oh, you're talking about back then. I'm talking about a dry call? Hold on. So you thought we had two towels? You thought we had two face clothes? Oh, you talking about back then. I'm talking about now. I just stopped doing that about five years ago. Oh, yeah. You tripping, man. So you wipe your ass and wipe your face, too? My ass is my face. Nah,

dog. You make it feel like, oh, hold on. Ocho, you want to do all that, but you buried faith nose deep in somebody's booty. But you worried about how clean your face is? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I be buried face nose deep in one booty. Okay, but it's still a booty.

It's clean. Oh, for sure. I clean it. Wait, what you talking about? Your lady? Yeah. Yeah, I'm scuba diving for sure but y'all worried about

you with the face closed that you wash your butt with and put it on your face but you got your face implanted yeah 100% that's different nah man I'm not talking about fresh out of the shower I'm not talking about she done walked around all day and

she done walked around all day she Yeah, she done walked around all day. She done spin class. She done worked out. Nah, she done done three-hour spin class. She done did loop ridges, lunge, all that. Shot. You catch it. Swing.

Hey, listen. Hey, hey, hey. Ocho, swing. Catch it straight out the car. No, sir. Hey, yeah. Hey, hey., catch it straight out the car. No, sir. Hey, yeah. Hey, that's natural. That's natural.

You said that's natural? Yeah, that's natural, man. That's that natural order. That natural order. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. See, Ocho, you see how you do too much? You see how I'm saying? You see how I'm saying?

He do too much. I'm I'm saying he do too much I'm just being honest and I hate that we had to go in this direction but it's okay I respect your honesty yeah man you know one day I say AJR Uncle living in the 50s man I told him he gonna have to evolve at some point

everybody use an Apple he on IBM wait what it's 2024 at some point you gonna have an Apple. He on IBM. It's 2024. At some point, you're going to have to put on your school video. I'm done with computers. Last time I tried to do something, I effed that up. So even

in my TVs, I be having to call Ash. Ash have to come over here and straighten the TVs out because all the passcodes in her name. So Ash have to drive over to my house and sit everything straight. Because I'm like, Ash, are you on the TV right now? Because there's too many TVs on.

You're not an app guy, huh? Nah, hell no. So you ain't subscribing or nothing? I ain't got nothing. I ain't got no Uber Eats, no DoorDash. You got a chef. What you need that for? No, I'm saying I ain't got no Uber.

I ain't got no ride share. I ain't got nothing. I ain't got no Venmo. Whatever cash. I ain't got no email. I ain't got nothing. You ain't got no email. Call me. Bro,

when I was at CBS, they tried to have sent me, they said, well, you need to get an email. They sent me up an email account and then they would call and tell me what was on the email. So I never opened the email. I said, you just told me, so I don't need to check it.

You just told me. We sent you an email that's telling that we changed itinerary, we changed the schedule. I said, okay. Shelly has an email. Shelly will get it. Shelly, what does it say? But I need you to, hey, screenshot it, send it to me in text form. Boom, we good.

I ain't got no credit card on my phone. You got an app? I ain't got, look, I can't. Oh, so you had an assistant and everything your whole career? Pretty much, yeah yeah how much money was y'all making

no no no see my brother had a travel agency so she booked all the flights she booked all the hotels so man check this out I have my girlfriend that I was with

for the longest when she left shut down everything because everything was on her computer and she had all the passcodes I didn't know nothing oh hell nah you ain't ask for them you know she she

text them to me and you know and then I had to get yeah she did yeah she text them to me and and you know are you a good guy yeah she did yeah she text them to me because I couldn't get anything I couldn't I couldn't control the heat I couldn't get into the computers because I didn't know the password to get into computers I couldn't get into anything

I couldn't control the lights I couldn't control the sound in the house I couldn't control nothing I mean I just need better context why she left what you did wrong ah nah nah nah nah nah we broke up I know? What you did wrong? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. We broke up. I know, but what you did wrong? I ain't do anything wrong. Ocho, we done talked about this situation.

She said she wasn't happy. She moved on. It's okay. I ain't the first guy. Is she really happy, though? I don't know. I haven't talked to her in five, six, five years, four and a half years. But why don't you call her back? No, I'm good.

You sure? Yeah, I'm positive. One thousand percent. We're rolling in it right now. He good. He don't know the opinions other than what he got going on. Swish, that's what I do. I got to drive.

Hey, when I need to go somewhere, I ain't driving nowhere. The only place I'm driving is to the gym. If I got anything that I got to do in an apartment, hey, Kobe, you busy today? Nah, Mr. Shaw, what you need? I need you to come scoop me. I ain't doing nothing. I respect that.

You travel with security, too? I don't. You got a detail? I don't. Ash and Jordan. What? And they be walking. And they be walking.

Well, Jordan walks so slow. Ash walks slow. You remember the first time we went to New York? And guys slowed down. You could sweat. I'm like. No, I don't. No, I don't. I don't travel with security. Are you an on-time guy or are you like

right before the flight guy? I'm on time. So you're like two hours before the flight. Two and a half hours before the flight. I ain't doing all that. I'd be there an hour before the flight. There you go. I'd give you an hour. But normally,

but normally I'll fly down to one of the private suites. So I go to the thing before. And so I really, unless, you know, if they have that service, I'll get that. I really don't go inside

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Now it's time for our last segment of the day and it's time for Q&A. And plus, when that travel, they be leaving, Ash gonna start and get something to eat. She gonna get some coffee. You want anything? I'm like, she gonna start and get coffee. Even if she already had a cup on the way to the airport, she gonna get

another cup when we get through the security. She gonna go into one of those stores and get something. Anybody want anything? We just ate. You want anything? Oh, I know you want something. Here you go. I brought you a ginger ale. Joy, I do. I do

drink it. Jordan, he already got like six bags of candy. I don't know where he got them from, but he got six bags in his bag. I'm rocking with Jordan. Skittles. Jonathan said, I'm an ex-marathoner and runners trot

are for real. I guess that's what you get when you run a marathon and you kind of lose. I mean, I've seen people lose control of their body, Ocho, and you lose control of your body. That's a muscle. Controls being the ability to go to the bathroom.

If you lose control of that, you lose control of your bowel movement. And there you go. Understandable. I think that's why I'm assuming it should be imperative before you run anything long, especially a marathon or before you do a triathlon, you have to be careful of what you put in your stomach before you run. Runner's trot is also known as runner's diarrhea or runner's colitis is a condition that causes frequent

loose bowel movements during or after a run so you know this is going to happen not to everybody but chances are high yeah I'm not doing that.

That's a sport. I'm not going to play. You got to find something else. It's kind of like ultra marathon. When you talk about you running 75, a hundred miles, or you're running 24 hours, things like that.

Yeah. I need to find me a different hobby. That is a point. I can prove myself and then continue to like them myself and then continue to, like, proceed? Nah, dog. Nah, dog. I thought y'all was wild when I heard Cassius DePio and all that. Like, all right, you know what?

I can still play. Yeah. Nah, I can't do that. Nah. Casey Taylor said, yo, Swish, remember when you were untying player shoes? I would do it to my teammates and say, J.R. Smith did it twice in the regular season game against Ops. Second time, I got a tick.

Yeah, I need that bread back. Straight up. They fined the shit out of me for that shit. $50,000 for some shoe strings. God damn, that. The richest pair of shoes I ever non-wore. Yeah, you could have bought some

dance-stop something. I swear, I could have bought a business with that and created my own shoes. Ocho, JJ Carver said, Ocho, live from Harry Potter Stairs Storage Room. Oh, you're talking about the toilet?

Yeah, yeah. You're sitting on the toilet? No, I'm sitting in the bathroom. That's normally where the toilet is, Ocho. No, I'm saying I'm sitting in the bathroom on the outside, so the computer and the camera is set up on the sink. And this is the closet behind me.

To my right, right here is the bathroom. The toilet right here, I can see and touch the toilet. And the bed is right here to my left. A little tiny-ass boutique hotel. Very nice, though. Very nice. How are two people supposed to sleep in that bed? It ain't gonna be no two people, so it just me. Oh, it's just you? Okay.

Not on Thanksgiving, though. Yeah, he gonna try to go over there. He gonna try to go over there and sweet talk real. What's up, S-Pod, baby? Stand your ground real. It's too soon. It's too soon, bud. Yeah.

Stand your ground real. That's right. He gonna try to sweet talk you and make you bring a gift. Who signed you on, huh? Hey, listen. It's too soon. You know what? I'm in the middle.

I'm going to wait until the 25th of December. Oh, boy, you dirty, Ocho. Yeah, there's going to be an opportunity and a chance. It'll be that day. It'll be that day, huh? Yeah, it's going to be that day.

Boy, you bringing out the big gun. I swear, boy. I ain't got no choice. Look at me. I hear you. Might as well. I can't wait. Switch, we're going to let you answer this one. 4KT said, start, bench,

cut, bust edition. Darko Milicic, Hasim Thabit, or Anthony Bennett? Darko. So you got to start one, bench one, cut one. Darko Milicic, Hasim Thabit, Anthony Bennett. I guess Darko

is the only one who really actually played. So Darko was the only one who really actually played. So Darko, Sheen, that was my New York boy, and Canadian last, Anthony Bennett. So you're going to start Darko, you're going to bench the beat, and you're cutting Anthony Bennett.

Yeah. I mean, Darko was number two pick, man. Yeah, he was three. Yeah, he was three. No, he was two. Anthony Bennett was number one. Anthony Bennett was trash. Yeah. What you mean was?

He was trash. He was bad. The Beat was number two, though, right? Was he? The Beat? I thought he was like seven or nine or something. What pick did The Beat go? I feel like he dropped.

Hashim? Second. UConn? He went second. Yeah. Yes. To the Grizzlies. Yeah, that's a bad pick.

Who else was in that draft? Who else? Who went first in that pick? That ain't Blake Gry Blake's draft, is it? Yeah, it is. It is. Blake was one. So they had an opportunity to draft Steph?

Hey, yo. Yeah, hey. And they had an opportunity to get Harden. Oh, my God. DeMar DeRozan, Steph Curry. Holiday Teague. Yep. Yep. Wow.

The beat it was. Mikael Brock said, hey, guys, I'm a big fan from London, and I'm coming to Miami today for the first time. What food spots would you recommend, Ocho? Hey, listen, if you're going to Miami, you got to try, write this down real quick. If you're going to Miami, listen to me. I mean, we don't get the tussies.

Kayvon Webster, very good friend of mine, had a spot called Smith and Webster. Write that down. Then there's a friend of mine that I grew up with, childhood friend who also has a place in Liberty City. You don't have to worry about anything. Liberty City is gentrified now. It's called iCrave.

You'll like that. Try I Crave. Another spot that I frequent is a Cuban spot that you might like. It's called Havana Cuban Cuisine. Okay. And after that, there are a bunch of five-star

restaurants that I'd never go to that you will love that are on South Beach and those I put that I'm sure you're probably going with the Missus or something you can enjoy those Miles Prime the three I gave you are for me the price point is

cost efficient for the way I like to spend outside of that the rest of the restaurants the five star stuff you own oh must love cash hey hey Shannon Ocho seems like you're interested in a younger woman would a mature

successful millennial who can cook be your type she would pass gas in private at all times asking for a friend. Okay. She asking for herself. She's shooting that shot. Wait, hold on.

Why she say pass gas in private? Because he say women can't pass gas in front of him? No, you got to go to the bathroom. You ain't finna do that in front of me. I hear you. I'm old school, Swish. I hear you. No, school Swish I hear you it's hard man I seen I seen some

things come out of these things man and they about something about 7 15 at this point it's just like two months like I was there for the whole thing. I caught

little homie. So for you to let go... Yeah, I was there too. But he ain't smell. He didn't smell my bed. I don't know where he was at. That shit was in there rocking. I don't know. I don't... Hold on.

Let me get this right Ocho a woman can ask that a man be six foot or above right 200 or above right right make X amount

right gotta be a provider gotta be a provider I say just don't pass gas oh man I can't die see

you want a man to be over six foot you want him to be over 200 pounds you want him to be able foot. You want him to be over 200 pounds. You want him to be able to travel. You want him to make six figures. You want all that. But if I say a lady, just go to the bathroom and pass gas.

I'm confused. It seems like when we have stipulations, that's out of the realm of possibility. But that's a little harsh, though. Like, to me, if they asking all of possibility. That's a little harsh though. To me, if they're asking all of that, to me, it's like, okay, if you're asking all of that, just don't complain when I got

marathon shape. When I'm in marathon shape and I work like an athlete and my appetite is built like an athlete, just make sure you can provide an athlete's meal consistently. If you can provide an athlete's meal consistently. If you can't do that, then it's complaints and like, I've got a headache.

I'm tired. I don't care if you cook like Bobby Flay and Gordon Ramsay. You're not passing gas around me. So that's off the table. I don't care if you make $10 million a year. You can out-earn me. That ain't happening. Oh, nah.

If you got to check, I put the wig on, I make the bacon, I put the eggs. What's happening? That's got to be... They tripping, huh? Switch, they got to be aligned. They got to be aligned.

Switch, I don't think that's asking too much. Just to go to the bathroom to pass gas? Man, if it had no context, you'd drop in the boat. What? What if it's silent, though? That ain't happening, Switch. Because I'm going to listen. So you're going to let yours rip, though?

No, no. You won't find a woman that'll tell you that I've done that in front of her. You can't find a woman to tell you I'm going to the bathroom in front of her. When I go to the bathroom and pee, I turn the water on so you can't hear it. I ain't going to lie. I go all the way in the back. I go to a whole other bathroom. I go upstairs.

I go to. Listen, and I understand, Shannon, that's just, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go,

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I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, oven until you can use the bathroom with your partner right there. I ain't never had it. I ain't gonna have it. I ain't gonna have it.

My grandma and my granddaddy always said, man, when you're comfortable enough to use the bathroom with the door open, you can hold a conversation with your partner. That is the definition of true love. Ain't what we talking about. Whatever that's important, you wait till you get your snake ass up out the bathroom. I'ma wait till I

get my ass out the bathroom. We not fit to talk. Let me listen to me. Stay with me now. Some of the greatest conversations are had when you're using the bathroom. I don't know when you use the bathroom. I'm on there about 30-40 minutes. That's a perfect time

where I can't run and I can engage and listen to whatever it is you need to say. That's the best time to get whatever you need to get off your chest. It's a window. It's a nice window for you. Perfect window. Listen, a lot of times they don't even know.

We don't even know. We got all these rooms in this house. We ain't got any. Oh, you got money. Oh, you got money. I mean, at first, normally, when I first start dating, man, please.

I said, hey, you know, man, I sure could use some orange juice. Can you go to the store and get some orange juice? Anything else you need, I go get some. Ain't no way. Ain't no way. You sending her out back outside? Yeah. Or I would go or i go i would

go to the guest house i'm like i'm gonna go true story i had a guest house and and i had a gym i had to turn the it was a three-car garage but i turned it into a gym i would put my workout clothes and everything i'm gonna go work. I would go to the guest house, go use the bathroom, and come back in. I was like, nah, I didn't feel like it today. In Denver or Baltimore? Because, god damn, that's a...

In Denver. I mean, no, I was in L.A. Oh, this is recent. Oh, yeah, in L.A., when I was in L.A. Oh, but when I was in Denver, no, no, no, no, no. You're not gonna find one. Because I don't do that. I., when I was in L.A. Oh, but when I was in Denver, when I was in Denver, no, no, no, no, no. You ain't gonna, you're not gonna find one. Because I don't do that. I don't do that in front of them. I go to, like I said, we got three, four,

we got three, four bathrooms. Hey, I'm gone. Hmm. I don't know how you pull that one off. That's a tough one. That's like Superman stepping in the damn phone booth. Nah, I can't, I. Nah, I can't.

I can't. I can't. You know what it is, guys? My turnaround ain't that fast, dog. I gotta sit there for a minute. But you have to understand, Switch, I grew up around women. And so me and my brother was the only ones in the house. That's why I always wear shirts.

You know, I'm from the shower. I put lotion on. I got my clothes back on. I don't, you know, I'm in the shower. From the shower, I put lotion on. I got my clothes back on. I don't walk around. I don't walk through my house naked. I don't walk through my house barefooted because that's how we grew up. And I remember I was about 10 years old. And my grandma said, boy, you know, I have my under, just jockey. We called them jockey shorts.

My grandma said, boy, put some shorts on over there and put a T-shirt on. And from that point on, in front of women, I just felt like, okay, I'm not supposed to be walking around like that. And I don't. I respect that. I respect the hell out of that. Mine's ain't ready. Look at Ocho.

Ocho looking at me like, I'll be at that thing, butt ball. Nah, I swear, brother. Right across the kitchen table. Nah, I swear, brother. Right across the kitchen table, like, man. Nah. Earl C. said, JR, how hard is it chasing around Steph and Clay in the finals? Did you prepare differently?

If so, what did you do? Nah, I didn't prepare differently. For me, it was, I already had it, like, by the time I was coming off of guard and them, I was already playing DeMar in the Eastern Conference Finals, so I kind of had, like, a deny the ball aspect with him. With, like, D. Rose and Jimmy is kind of, like, similar. So, for me, it was always like,

try to make, make it hard for them to even catch the ball. Cause if they catch the ball, that's when they most dangerous. So if I don't let them catch it, that's when that's the only way I honestly used to play it. So for me, my biggest thing,

I used to run about six, seven miles a game, which is a lot for an NBA game. Yeah. Yeah. Just, just miles a game, which is a lot for an NBA game. Yeah. Just on trying to, I used to try to focus on beating every, beating a person to their spot more than anything. Because by the time you counter and he, you know, the person make a lob pass or whatever else I can make,

at that point I'm relying on athletic ability. But if I'm smart enough to know y'all plays and beat you to the spot, then everything else I can adjust on. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. That concludes this edition of Nightcap. We want to thank you for joining us for a very special Nightcap basketball style. I am your

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