Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Sam Darnold signs with Seahawks, Commanders trade for Tunsil, and Cooper Kupp might get released!

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to a bunch of free agency moves that happened today! Sam Darnold signs with the Seahawks, Broncos make a bunch of moves early, and Zach Wilson signs with the Dolphins and much more!06:15 - Sam Darnold to Seahawks21:48 - Broncos offseason moves26:38 - Commanders and Texans trade32:10 - Cowboys break offseason silence 35:30 - Josh Sweat to Cardinals37:36 - Zach Wilson to Dolphins42:45 - Rams set to release Cooper Kupp if no trade52:00 - Q&Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I like the move because I don't like the move for Seattle. I like the move for Sam Darnold, though. I like the move for Sam Darnold. I like the move for Sam Donald. We saw a small sample size of Sam Donald in New York. Okay? He didn't really have nothing to ride in. We saw a small sample size of Sam Donald in Carolina.

He didn't really have nothing to ride in. Boy, you put goddamn Sam Donald over there on the Minnesota Vikings, boy, he look like Joe Montana. Boy, he look like Joe Montana. Boy, he look like Joe Montana. You hear me? He ain't got that in Seattle, though. Can I tell you why he look like that, though?

They got a young boy over there named, last name Hawkinson. Huh? Yeah. They got a young boy over there, probably the best, the best receiver in the NFL outside of Jamal Chase and Justin Jefferson.

They got Addison, young boy, crazy, giving you crazy work. So that's how he was able to get paid like that. So now he get that money down now. Now you got to come and show up. You have certain quarterbacks that elevate the receivers around him. You have certain quarterbacks that need the receivers around them to elevate the quarterback play. So now you got to come in and show out right now all they have right now is jsn i like jsn i like him you know they got to get something else over there you

know let tyler lockett go you know let dk metcalfcalf go. I'm not sure what kind of rebuilding stage they in, but they playing with Legos. They done started over from scratch. For me, I don't think that Sam Darnold is better than Geno. Now, maybe you didn't want to give Geno an extension. Geno's going to make $31 million this year. He probably going to look for something north of $40. You get Sam Darnold for about $33 million.

But go back and look the last two to three years. Geno has outplayed it. Now, maybe, hey, you want to move on? We've let Lockett go. We've let DK go. Hey, we're going to start fresh. We're going to get all that up. All that Pete Carroll, we're going to get that up out of here.

Right. But I don't think Sam Darnold is better than Geno. Well, you know he's not better than Geno, huh? You know he's not better than Geno. But I'm just saying we have to understand why Sam Darnold was able to do what he did in Minnesota. I always say a quarterback is only as good as his opponent cast. There are very few quarterbacks in the NFL right now that can go to any team

and regardless of what's around them, they can excel. Regardless of who's around them. Lamar Jackson's one of them. Josh Allen is another one who did more with less. There's a few others. I'm not going to say no names. There's a few others. They can not going to say no names. There's a few others.

They can go on any team. I don't care what you put around me. I'm going to get the job no matter what. I don't care how much talent, how much skill I got around. It's because of the onus in what I can do.

And that's why I'm special. Hell, that's why Josh Allen just got the deal he got. Sick for 330. That's why he got the deal he just got. That's why the quarterbacks like Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow make the big money.

Some people say, well, Joe Burrow's only doing what he's doing because he had Jamar Chase. Put him anywhere. Put him anywhere. The skill set doesn't change. You being able to throw the ball doesn't change. All you need is the players' value to get the job done. Somebody said in the chat,

they offered Geno the same contract they offered Donald. Why would I take, why would I? So you mean to tell me I played the way I played, I've gone to Pro Bowls, and you're going to give me a $2 million raise? Child, please. Screw you. Child, please. I mean, I wish I might mean i wish i might i like that i like

that for geno too yeah that's all right you know uh oh miami miami's one of miami's finest you know smith sam donald won't rank 14th in qbr the set which was seven spots ahead of smith en route to the pro bowl but donald also hadsack debacle in their wildcard playoff loss to the Rams. If you look at it, the last two games, I think they played Detroit and they played the Rams. Yeah. Hold on. They played Detroit? Yeah, they played Detroit because they had that comfort behind win.

Then they played Detroit and Detroit mopped them. And then they went to the playoffs and the Rams crushed him. So, he is, his play is very, very receiver eccentric, which means he really needs quality players around him to elevate him. I don't believe he can elevate, they need to elevate him, and that's

what you got with Jetta, that's what you got with Hawkinson, that's what you got with an Aaron Jones, that's what you got with an Addison. Now, it got with Hawkinson. That's what you got with an Aaron Jones. That's what you got with an Addison. Now, it's going to be very interesting to see what they put around him. He only has Jackson, Smith, and Jigba that's still there. Yeah. Or they have Noah Fant who's still there. But what are the other receivers that you're going to put?

No DK, no Tyler Lockett. So what are you going to surround him with in order to, and hope you get the production this year that he gave Minnesota last year? I mean, listen, I'm not sure who the owners are in Seattle, but I think they understand. They've been watching football. It's Paul, rest his soul, Paul Allen's sister. Mr. Paul Allen?

His sister. Paul Allen, yeah, he passed away and left everything to his sister. They have enough scouts and people in place to understand why he played as well as he did. You know why. You know, I understand it's a business. I understand you have to pay him his money. But if you want to see him be as productive as he was, you need to get the same type of pieces. You won't get... Yeah, for sure.

You ain't going to get the Justin Jefferson. You ain't going to find that. But there are some quality rivalry scenes you can get to put around him, to put with J.S. in. They got a nice running back in Kenneth Walker III, right? Kenneth Walker, yeah, and Charbonneau.

They nice. Well, they nice. Mm-hmm. They nice. So I think they're going to be all right. But that's just very questionable about some of the moves they made. For one, Lockett. How you let the preacher go? I call Lockett the preacher's wife.

You can't let the preacher's wife go. You know? That goes against everything God stands for. Now, DK, he won this deal. They weren't going to pay. Now, I understood that move. But, hey, man, hey, the business, the NFL is crazy. Sometimes they make you sit there and scratch your head. But it's the nature of the business.

You've been around it for so long. You play it and you see how they operate. Nothing should surprise you. Ocho, I love what Jamar posted on IG. Know your worth, then add tax. Oh yeah, he don't play.

But when he posted on there, Ocho. I saw it. He don't play. You don't listen to me. I saw it. You don't play? Oh, you don't. Man, you're not listening to me. Give me me. Give me, give me, give me me. Oh, they played with him last year. Mm-hmm.

There's certain players that love the game, and you know you can play with them, right? You can play. You know, when the NFL knows you love the game so much that you'll come and play, they'll take advantage of you. Now, you got somebody like this who showed you,

all right, man, I'm going to sit down. I ain't cutting no deals. At all. Now, you played with me last year, this year? Nuh-uh. Yesterday's price ain't today's price. Nuh-uh. I need all that. Today's price ain't today's price nah i need all that today's price is two years from that price i'm charging i know the economy i know hey i know we wiped out a lot of games over the

last couple of days the dial and the nasdaq is down but i need i need that back. I need all that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All that. Hey, for what y'all did to me, I cut nothing. I'm charging. I remember when I was growing up and my grandfather would take me and my brother,

we'd go close, get Easter shopping. We'd buy one of them, you know, buy two suits. You get two suits for $99. They throw the tie in the pocket square for free. Right. Jamar say I'm charging everything

a la carte. It's $15 million for I led the league in receiving yards. It's $15 million I led the league in touchdowns. It's $15 million I led the league in catches. We're about $45. Make it right. Make the money right. Tobin, you and Mike Brown, make the money

right. Hold on. Hold on. And if it ain't what it and it ain't what it should be I ain't touching the field oh no I'm not touching the field I'm not touching the field until week 8

cause I wanna make sure I get my credit this season not playing I'm not gonna do that oh but y'all gonna pay me I'm not cutting hey T

I will really love you but I ain't gonna save no money now I'm just you, but I ain't going to save no money now. I'm just letting you know I ain't saving no money. Ain't going to be no scraps. Mm-hmm. Oh, that's funny, man. That's funny. They don't ever cut.

They don't cut these networks no slides. They don't cut them no breaks. They can pay top dollar. So I need that. They ain't got no choice breaks. They can make a bank top dollar. So, I need that. They ain't got no choice. I need that. Oh, and plus, you already told me

you were going to make me the highest paid. Yeah. You got to be careful. Hey, Ojo, you know, we're going to stay together and you don't promise your girl I'm going to...

Hey. Hold on, hold on. Don't forget, they done lied to me once already now. Yeah. They said they told me they were going to pay me last year. Don't worry about it. Now you're worried your word i really can't i really can't stand on your word because you told me one thing last year and then you bumped the system on me you bumped me

so i don't know what to believe now so now you get it you get a post like that that now it's strictly business oh that's all it's ever been. Because y'all told me y'all was going to take care of me. Now I look at y'all, you say your promises are like pie crust, thin and easily broken. I can't believe nothing you tell me. That's a good one. Yeah, I can't believe nothing you tell me, Ocho. I wrote that one down before.

I remember that one. That's a good one. Yeah. So I need all that. Mm-hmm. I want everything I was promised yesterday and everything y'all took in today. Yeah. You remember Harlem Night?

We used to say we'd show you the night. Yeah. The dude, Snagga 2? Snagga 2? Yeah. Mama need a dress. Baby need new heels. And you need teeth.

Now roll the dice, folks. I don't roll. I don't roll them. I told you kids give me bad luck. I told you kids give me bad luck. He's going to get that kid out of here. It's my place.

It's my place. Kid ain't going nowhere. He ain't bothering nobody. Because I'm going to stick you and I'm definitely going to stick you. And I'm going to stick that. And I'm gonna stick that slow-walking grammar boy's face. Oh! That he crapped out. Hold on, bro. Had you won,

we'd have paid you. I paid a man on by the day, and I ain't selling, punk. But, uh, Jamar Chase want that bread, don't you? Yeah. I need that. Get choke yeah i need that get your money chase get your money chase was oh yo check this out last year he was open to a deal average around 36 million if structured right bingos couldn't get it done now triple crown crown. Triple the price. Crazy. Money, money, yeah, yeah.

Money, money, yeah, yeah. Get them, Chase. The highest paid non-quarterback is $40 million. Chase said, I need, give me, give me. Hey, I need $41 me, give me, hey, I need 41. I need my five years. Anyway, they got, you see, hey, the first three years,

I need 100 piece. Make it, make it 105. 100 piece. Make it, make it 105. Just a, just, just a good measure. As a matter of fact you know what I had to take out a Lords of London policy

just in case I get hurt that can replace the value that I was going to lose I need that money back too so throw that in there throw that in there absolutely absolutely throw that in there absolutely absolutely

hey it's been a good time it's been a good time it's been a good day for me for the NFL uh had they this is what the

uh the Bengals because they waited till the last minutes they could have had Jesse Bates for 12 million they didn't do it he leaves gets 15-16 from the Falcons T. Higgins they could have had Jesse Bates for $12 million. They didn't do it. He leaves,

gets $15, $16 from the Falcons. Tee Higgins. They could have had Tee Higgins for about $23 million a year. Now they're going to have to pay him north of $30. Jamar Chase,

you could have had it for $35, $36. Say $36. Now you're going to have to pay him $40 plus. Trey Hendrickson could have had it for $25. Now you're going to have

to sandwich him somewhere between 30. He wants north of 30. Yeah. To a back-to-back season with 17.5 sacks, I can't say I disagree with it. Yeah. And I look at what Philly's been able to do with Devontae Smith, with A.J. Brown, obviously Saquon, Jalen Hurts,

and being able to pay everybody? Do you think they were able to do it because they paid early? Yes. They struck before it got hot, which we understand, and what would happen if they waited too long? Bro, you see these guys practice every day. You see how these guys meet.

You see them play. They don't get in trouble. What are you waiting for if the longer you wait it's almost like you're you're betting against them yeah basically they're gonna have a down year they're gonna get injured decrease the value well there's a chance that happens but what happens when it doesn't doesn't right i never looked at it like that you know hey the the betting against your own players by not paying yes yeah when you when you when your franchise when your franchise tagged me that's basically what you bet against me yes you're betting against you that's crazy i've never heard it i've never heard it said like that i just i just saw it as I don't value you long term.

I didn't even think about the concept of, you know what, I'm betting against you because I don't think you can do it again. So you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to tag you. Right. I ain't going to give you the long term. I'm going to make you prove it again. And guess what, T. Higgins?

I believe that was a fluke the last three years. I'm going to tag you again. That's heavy. That's heavy. That's heavy work. Man, where's my chapstick? Man, my lips are dry as hell. Damn. Mm-hmm.

The Denver Broncos were busy today. They reached a three-year deal. Hafanga. Hafanga. The deal is worth $45 million includes $20 million in guaranteed money Hufanga has played

he played his entire four year career with the 49ers and was named All-Pro in 2022 hours later news broke

that his now former 49ers teammate Drake Greenlaw will be joining him Greenlaw will sign a three year $35 million deal the addition of Greenlaw and H a three-year, $35 million deal.

The addition of Greenlaw and Hufanga, Denver Bulls are already stout Broncos defense that rank third in points allowed and features Defensive Player of the Year, Pat Sertan II. I like it. Yeah. Hufanga? Absolutely.

He's coming off ACL, right? Is that him? Who that? With the long hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Hafonda? Absolutely. He's coming off ACL, right? Is that him? Who that? Drake? With the long hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I call him little Paulo Malo.

Yeah. I think he went to USC, too. Yeah. And Greenlaw coming off of... Achilles. Coming off Achilles. Mary Jordan Achilles in the Super Bowl. Running on the field.

And obviously, when he came back, young Bull got upset and walked off the field. So I'm glad to see him come back and, you know, go get paid. And it's always a dope thing to see, you know, players get hurt. And you understand how ownership really feels about you after an injury like that. That magnitude, but to see him come back and get his money is a good thing. Yeah, I'm so glad that Greenlaw's back. But Greenlaw has an injury like that, that magnitude, but to see him come back and get his money is a good thing. Yeah, I'm so glad that Greenlaw's back,

but Greenlaw has an injury history. I don't think he's played but one season in this totality. What? He's been nicked. Yeah, he's been nicked pretty much his entire career.

Jeez. So, the Broncos bolsters their defense. They got a run-stuffing linebacker, a rangy safety to pair him with a the Broncos bolsters their defense. Uh, they got a run stuffing linebacker, uh, a range, a safety to pair him with, uh, uh,

PS2. Uh, the Broncos, they, they talk to Sean Payton briefly. Say, give us a little time. We're going to be okay.

They make it moves. You can tell who's serious. You can tell who's serious about winning. Huh? Who? What was Huh? Who? What was that? Yeah, I see. What was 22?

He only played two games in 24. How many games did he play in 21 and 22? 15 and 22. Mm-hmm. and 22. 15 and 22. 3. Mm-hmm. So it's kind of hit or miss. Hopefully he's healthy. Yeah.

Because he can play. Oh, he can go now. I think he came from Houston, didn't he? Was he always, was he a 49ers draft deal? Okay. Oh,

I'm sure the one that went to the Texans was started out at the 49ers. He's the one. Okay. Okay. Okay. But hopefully,

hopefully, he can stay healthy and him and Hufanga can have some depth and some leadership and the Broncos, a Bronco country, are going to be in good hands.

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The commanders are not messing around with quarterback Jayden Daniels' rookie contract. Apparently not satisfied with Brandon Coleman as their left tackle, the Commanders swung for one of the league's most established tackles, a Laramie Tunsil. In the trade, the Commanders get Laramie Tunsil and a 2025 fourth-round pick.

The Texans get 2025 third-round, a 2025 seventh round pick, a 2026 second round pick, and a 2026 fourth round pick. Tunsell is coming off a season in which he graded 93% pass block win rate, which is 10th best, and a 75% run block win rate,

which was 39. Obviously, he's a better passer, pass protector than a run block win rate which was 39. Obviously, he's a better passer, pass protector than a run blocker, but hey, Jane Daniels, get some help at the left tackle position and you see Ocho, they're going for it. Yeah. Well, listen, that's

what you call going all in. You think about it, Larry Metunzel, right? Why would you let one of your better better tackles obviously you let him go oh joe do you remember how many times uh what's called that sack last year last man why would you why i was just going to say that i was just going to say look how many times cd shroud was sack so when i look at when i look at the numbers that we're talking about with him being better when it comes to path protection,

I mean, what do the commanders do most of the time anyway? Pass the ball. I think I like, I like the move. I think it's a good pick, a good pickup. I'm not sure if I listen,

I wouldn't have no problem going from Houston to the chocolate city either. So, you know, going from one French, going from one franchise is headed in the right, right direction to another franchise that's headed in the right direction. Yes, sir.

I ain't got no issues or problem with that. He gonna, he gonna miss the, the, the, the state income tax, but he'll be okay. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you remember he out, I mean in Miami, he gonna miss those state income tax but he'll be okay okay yeah I mean in Miami he goes from Miami to Houston yeah because wasn't he at Miami I think Miami drafted him he got drafted yeah with the mask

yeah but I like I look I'm confused by what now maybe the Texans are going to take a tackle in the draft. I don't know. I don't, you know, mainly I look at the skill position and corners and linebacker things of that nature. So I'm not really too familiar with the offensive line. Right.

I'm confused by what the Texans are doing, considering CJ, one of the most sack quarterbacks in the NFL, and his best protector, you're moving on. Okay, maybe it was a deal that was too good to pass up because you get a, let me see,

you get a 2020, you get a 2025 third round pick and a 2025 seventh round pick, and 26, you get a second round pick and a 2026. Now, maybe you're going to package that if there's something in the draft that you want to get. Don't know,

but I love what the commanders are doing. We got, we got two more years with, with Jane Daniels on this rookie contract contract. You got to take advantage of it. You, you, you say where the money going60 million is the highest paid.

So what's that number going to be in two years? $65, $68, $70. Where are we going? That's crazy. Crazy work.

Hell yeah. So, I'm taking you, you like the move. Let me ask you this yeah what do you think that what do you think the command what do you think the commander's ceiling are now given they're in the same division they're in the same division as the eagles you got the rams uh-huh um who has made the playoffs uh last year who made uh playoffs at oh det oh Detroit do you see a bounce back

season for the 49ers if they get some of their players back healthy I'm not sure about a bounce back season for

the 49ers because they had too many too many pieces missing Debo going to the commanders now

Brandon is coming off a ACL injury then you got Ricky

Purcell I think I said his name right he showed flashes of what he could do Coming off an ACL injury. Then you got Ricky Purcell. I think I said his name right. He showed flashes of what he could do. Brandon Jennings, who is also a really, really, really good player. Very good player. So I'm not sure what they're going to look like with those two. They're not proven as of yet. Hey, the Commandos, they ain't playing.

You got Terry McLaurin. You got Debo Samuels. They went to the NFC Championship last year. Larry Tucker wasn't there. You add that to your offensive line. The Bulls, everything up. You got Brian Robinson in the backfield.

I mean, shoot. Everything's on up and up. Yeah. To me, to be able to compete with the Eagles, the only team in the nfc west and that nfc excuse me that's not doing that is the goddamn cowboys they made one move they made one move yet well look the cowboys don't believe in in free agency ocho they haven't paid big money for a free agent since this greg hardy remember they got greg hardy ocho yeah They haven't paid big money for a free agent since Greg Hardy.

Remember they got Greg Hardy, Ocho? Yeah. Oh, my bad. What happened? Let's take it on the divisional rivals, the Dallas Cowboys. Jerry Jones has not made a splash today. First, he re-signed long snapper Trent Sieg. Okay, there we go.

There we go. That's a start. Three-year extension. That's there we go. There we go. That's the start. To a three-year extension. That's the start. The long snapper. Then he signed Javante Williams, one year, $3 million. Javante's stats, 139 carries. That was tied for 35th. 513 yards, tied for 42nd.

Four touchdowns, tied for 40th. 3.7 for 40th. 3.7 yard average. That man signed a long snapper. Two or three year extension. And like, yeah, we got better today. It's a start, huh? It's a start. Listen, you gotta crawl before you walk. And anything that you do.

Well, damn, you must be a snake because you don't do nothing but crawl. When you going to start walking? The Cowboys have not signed a free agent over $6 million since Greg Hardy in 2015. That was 11 years ago. Oh, so they have. Oh, yeah. Ain't nothing changing. Ain't nothing changing. Ain't nothing changing.

It's not going to change. Back to the 49ers. Yeah. Ward went to Indy. He gone to Indy. Him and... Hufanga. The Broncos.

Broncos. Greenlaw. The Broncos. They just released Kyle Juszczyk. Damn. For real? Debo got traded. Yeah. It almost seemed like they had to let everybody go because they

get ready to pay, what you call it? Ocho. You keep going for it. And so if you pay it off, it's okay because you keep kicking the can down the road it's like during the recession when they had this thing called interest-only loans now interest-only loans you're gonna have a balloon payment that's gonna come due now hopefully you don't hit it big

or you find somebody else to take that house over but if you don't, you got to let it go. They kept spending and spending and spending. They kept getting close, but they couldn't close the deal. So now I got to blow it up and start all over again because I got to pay the quarterback. And see, they went for it as long as they had that quarterback on that rookie contract. Now he's

no longer on that rookie contract. He's going to want $35-40 million. But if I'm them, hey bro, you're going to get this Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald, 100 mil, three years for 100 mil. If you don't want it, listen, if you don't want that, I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, I mean, it's bad out there, Ocho. It's bad.

It's hard to find a quarterback, huh? It's hard to find a quarterback. If you find a good one that's a rookie, you know you got a three-year window. You got a three-year window to do as much as you can, offensively and defensively, putting the pieces around him to see if you can make a run. Heck, but Jaden almost did it in his first year. Almost.

He was one game away. One game. Man, man, please. Ojo, the Cardinals are signing past rusher Josh Sweat to a four-year deal worth $76.4 million. Sweat is reunited with former Eagles

defensive coordinator and current cardinals head coach jonathan gallen in the desert is this the sign the eagles are drafting a dn or trading for a specific dn in dallas because remember ojo uh what's williams williams just went to oh he went to uh new england did he Yes, he's in New England. Yeah. So now they still have Carter. They still have Jordan Davis. They still have, what's the other guy? I think Brandon Graham is going to retire.

He retoured his tricep. What's the other guy? They had another guy. Oh, they have Nolan Smith III, excuse me, Jr. But look, clearly, everybody thought they had a chance to get Miles Garrett. That's not happening. So now

we got to redirect our focus and hey, if we got to go in the draft, we go in the draft. That's what we normally do. That's how we got Jalen Carter. That's how we got Jordan Davis. That's how we go in the draft. That's what we normally do. That's how we got Jalen Carter. That's how we got Jordan Davis. That's how we got Nolan Smith Jr. That's how we got all the players that we got. We drafted them.

Howard said, hey, trust me. In Howie, I trust. That's his name, Hunt. He had a big game in the Super Bowl. Hell, what D-Lyman didn he had a big game in the Super Bowl hell what D. Lattman didn't have a big game in the Super Bowl hell they went hunting

they were taking turns but you know Ocho you know how this is bro they gonna come rob you they gonna come rob your chicken house and get the

they gonna get find the chicken that's low in the best eggs uh huh you taking two premium pass rushes hey we gonna take them take them up off you

you couldn't hold on to Slade because his contract was kind of cost prohibitive. Right. But we feel, hey, we thought we drafted your replacement last year, Cooper Dejean. The nature of the business, baby.

That's absolutely correct. Zach Wilson signs a one-year deal with Miami. Yeah. You buying Zach Wilson to the... you getting a Zach Wilson jersey? What you talking about, man? I'm going to get me a Zach Wilson jersey. Listen, you saw me. I wore two jerseys on this show.

I got every soccer jersey you could think of. I wore Jamar Chain jersey. And what's the other jersey I wore on the show? Wear it out. How many Wilson jerseys you got? That one green one I had on that time on the show? Wear it out. When you get back to your car

you'll have four more. They found somebody like Zach Wilson so they's like, hey. Hey, listen, don't talk about my dog. Listen, you know who had a better season in New York than Aaron Rodgers? Zach. Zach Wilson.

Listen, hey, Zach, I know you're going to see this, baby. I love you. I'm glad to have you in the city. If you need someone to show you around, I'm the perfect tour guide. I don't go out. I'm in bed by 9 o'clock, but we got to go. We got to go hit tootsies. Zach, we got to hit tootsies. I'm sure you're probably married. You have a wife, but it's okay. I just want to talk football. I want to talk football. They got chicken wings, seafood, rice, and lobster tail. They got chocolate cake, and we can use our peripheral vision to make sure we

focus, but still see what's around us. You hear me? You got to be aware of your surroundings. So I'll let you boy, Zach. My number's still the same. You said they got chocolate tail. What you say they got? Chocolate cake, Unc. I be talking bad. Oh, yeah, I know you chocolate cake. I know the cakes you talking about chocolate. Yeah, okay. Let you tell it. Oh, nah, nah. Not like that.

Not like that. Just like that. And I'm really talking about food. If you've never been to Tootsie's, you got to go to Tootsie's for the food. Listen, try the food. Okay. Shrimp Alfredo. Chicken and shrimp. I'm allergic to shellfish.

Oh, my bad. My bad. So you can't eat seafood, right? You can't eat lobster either, huh? No. Damn. Only calamari. And you can't eat seafood, right? You can't eat lobster either, huh? No. Damn. Only calamari. And you can't eat salmon?

I guess that's a fish. Yeah, damn. You can't eat nothing. Shellfish, mullocks, oyster, scallop, lobster, crab. None of that? No. Jesus. Anything that has iodine in it.

Can I ask you a question? I can't do betadine on my skin. Anything that has betadine in it will burn my skin. Burn? You mean like itch, itching? No, it'll burn the skin. I can't put betadine on my skin. It instantly discolors my skin.

So I have to use like Fiber Clean or something like that. Okay, okay. Hey, how do you find something out like how do you find something like that out when they put it on my black ass and my skin discolored

the same way you found out that you put bleach in your washing machine when you get colored and they spotty that's how I found out I didn't know well I knew I was allergic

to shellfish but I didn't it didn't really dawn on me that okay betadine has iodine in it. Right, right. Like, after trying. And then he told me a couple of times, I'm like, well, damn, why am I... Oh, see, you did it multiple times.

Yeah. Okay. But I was like, why am I skin just coloring? Right. You're like, well, Sharpie, uh... And then, you know, went to that, like, well, it has iodine. If you're allergic to shellfish, you're probably allergic to iodine

because that's the, what people, what they've said, what they told me is that that's probably the common ingredient because there's iodine in shellfish, there's iodine in betadine. So we recommend that you

obviously, clearly, don't eat shellfish, but stay away from betadine and find another cleansing solution. I mean, that's what I did. The Panthers. Cornerback J.C. Horn agreed to a four-year, $100 million extension worth $70 million guaranteed, making him the highest-paid DB in NFL history.

I like it. I like it. Listen, I'm a huge fan. I'm a huge fan of DB play. Those of you in the chat that have watched the Carolina Panthers play, those of you in the chat that are fans of defensive quarterbacks, I know J.C. Horn is one that you like. Pat Sertain might be the best, one who doesn't get the credit he deserves based on his play, whether it be man-to-man, whether it be man-to-man, bump and run, or off in J.C. Horn. I think he's one of the few that allows his defensive coordinator to do much more that they

want to do defensively because of how well he can play man-to-man. I love J.C. Horn. He's technically sound, doesn't get the credit he deserves, is not showcased because of where he plays football at. There's a reason why they paid him what he did. There's a reason why they paid him what he did. There's a reason why they paid him what he did. I've been watching him. I've been watching him all these years. And he's the real deal. He's the real deal.

He just doesn't get the credit he deserves because of where he's playing at. He don't talk much either. He ain't going to talk much. But he's going to go out there and play. And he's going to walk it every time. He's real nice. And the fact that he hurt his foot. I forgot. I think it was maybe last year nice and the fact that he hurt his foot i forgot i think but maybe last year year before last he hurt his foot oh joe yeah the rams are going to release cooper cup if they cannot find a trade partner what is the best landing spot for cooper cup

oh hey that's a good one right there boy i. I like that. That's a good question. A good landing spot for Cooper Cup. Pittsburgh? Uh, oh, that's not fair. DK Metcalf, George Pickens, and Cooper Cup? Mm-hmm. I like

that, huh? Mm-hmm. Hey, you cooking. That's a good one. Listen, I'm not about improving teams in AFC North unless it has to do with the Bengals, but just the thought of that, huh? Hey, you cooking. That's a good one. Listen, I'm not about improving teams in the AFC North unless it has to do with the Bengals, but just the thought of that is nice. I like that. How about a veteran presence over in Green Bay?

Another route runner. Yeah, I can see that as a slot. Yeah, for sure. You know, he can play on the outside. He can play on the inside. They can move around. He can play multiple positions. Why not? I like that. A similar offense to what he just left.

Hold on. Debo is gone. Why not Cooper Cup? Right down the road to San Francisco. You ain't even got to go that far. How much is it going to cost us? Considering they're trying to, it seems like they're going to a cost-cutting move in Green Bay.

Right. They let Juszczyk go. They traded Debo. They let Greenlaw. They let Hufanga. Unc, you need a dog, Unc. Yeah, I get it. You need a dog.

Don't leave your quarterback out there to dry. Now, Josh Allen is one of the few who can do it. I don't have no superstars around me I got Amari Cooper but we're not using Amari Cooper the way he should be used when he was young, when he was in his prime you hear me? they got Khalil Shakir, they got Coleman

what'd you call him just left and went to New England Max, what's his name? Mac Hollis, he just signed two years I just saw that I'm talking about that boy. Every quarterback needs that boy.

Unless you're a quarterback that can elevate your team without one of them boys like a Josh Allen. Like a Lamar Jackson. You need your number one. If you tell me to hike the ball and I'm blindfolded and there's a receiver that I can count on, it's Cooper Cup.

Let me get that over here with Brock Purdy so we have something that he can count on every single down if there's somewhere I need to go with the ball. Are you going to – what about the Houston Texans? Oh, that's a good one. Nico Collins is back. Tank Dale is probably going to miss this season. They just signed somebody. No, he's not going one. Nico Collins is back. Tank Dale is probably going to miss this season. They just signed somebody.

No, he's not going to be able to come back. Didn't the Texans just sign a receiver? I don't know. Did they? I could have swore they just signed somebody. Or maybe I'm tripping. Chat, talk to me, chat. Didn't the Texans just sign somebody?

Braxton Berrios. Braxton Berrios Braxton Berrios the fast guy that he was at the Jets he was at the Patriots too right that listen that's a good pickup

but I do like the Cooper Cup move also the boast of that offensive that offensive receiving room I like that

actually honestly I like I like that. Actually, honestly, I like the 49ers better, though. Yeah. Christian Kirk is going to be available if he's not already available because there are reports that he's going to get released.

He's kind of been nicked the last couple of years. Yeah. And so that contract is called for here. Yeah, he can run, too, boy. Oh, yeah, Kirk can run. He'll be nice over there

in Houston. It's all about fits and understanding the type of offense you put these players into. Oh, he was traded to the Texans, okay. But the A, that team, they don't really think much about you. They trade you to a division opponent? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Most teams, they're like, look, I'm not trading you in a division.

I'm really trying to get you out of the AFC. Well, it depends on the player. You got to be that boy. You have to be a difference maker. They're not trading difference makers in the division. That's what I tried to tell you. That shows you what Jacksonville thinks of him. They trade him to a division.

Damn the AFC. They traded him to within the division. Right. Steph Curry has accepted a role with his alma mater, Davidson College, as an assistant general manager for basketball program. Steph becomes the first active player in the U.S., major professional sports, to take an administrative job with the NCAA team.

When asked about Steph's new job, Steve Kerr had some jokes. Well, if he asked to leave the game to go scout college, I'll probably say no. But it is Steph Curry, so I'll probably say yes. I just hope he doesn't ask. I like it. I mean, it's cool. What if they made you general manager of Oregon State? That would be nice.

No, what if they made you general manager of FAMU? Okay, now we cooking. Now we cooking. You, hey, now we talking. You hear me? You make me anything

having to do with FAMU, I'm gone. I'm gone. I'm out. I'm out. Oh, so I have to find me a new partner, huh? No, no, no. I can do the show from Tallahassee. You ain out. I'm out. So I got to have to find me a new partner, huh? No, no, no.

I can do the show from Tallahassee. You ain't got to find nothing. And the Wi-Fi work just... Do Wi-Fi work just fine in Tallahassee. Ain't nothing wrong with it. Huh? Go on, man. Yeah.

Listen, I will pick up and relocate to Tallahassee right now. If the president called me, anybody of the governing body that has anything to do with FAMU want me in Tallahassee to be anything. I don't care what it is. I'm packing up and I'm leaving. Right now. Man, please. Damn. What?

Guess you, uh, guess you want to be general manager, fam, you? Hey, hey, hey. Listen, you mean to tell me I get to put on a suit and tie? Fam, you don't have to wear no suit and tie. But if I'm the general manager, boy, I'm going to be a fool.

What general manager do you know wear a suit and tie? This one? Every time you see me step out, I'm going to be in a suit and tie. I'm going to have an orange suit. I'm going to have a green suit. I'm going to have a rattler pin,

a FAMU pin. That green suit, you're going to be looking like the Grinch. Who? Hey, Unc, one thing about it. When it comes to fashion, I don't play. So if I have on a suit, I'm going to look sharp. I'm going to be sharp in the number two pencil.

I'm going to be cleaner than the border health. I'm going to be casket sharp. That's what I like. And you got me excited with that idea too, man. Golly. Just the thought of that. Being able to address the governing body, the students,

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baby, my bad. This man out here auditioning, sending out his resume on my company computer. Okay, that was funny. That was funny. Here for Norwood Jr. My question is, why did the Steelers have to choose Wilson over Fields?

I would have gone with Fields over Wilson. I would have too. Because look at where you are now. You're about to be your third, fourth quarterback in the last four years. Yeah. I do believe Fields could have done, I'm excuse me, Fields could have done some of the things.

And I thought that was your future. Why did you trade for him only for a year? Well, you only got two, three games out of it. Because like when Russ got healthy, he went to the backup and Russ went to the starting lineup. So I don't know if you really gave Wilson an opportunity to show you what he can do. What do you think?

Honestly, if I was Mike Tomlin, I would have gone with a veteran presence as well. Simply because of what they had done in the past. Super Bowl champion, knows what it takes to win, and that's not taking anything away from Fields. Fields was good when he was in until Russell Wilson was healthy. He took the Steelers to a 4-2 record,

played extremely well, extremely well. That's why I'm excited to see what he's going to do in New York as well, because if he can get a jump start out, get a jump start like that in New York once the season does start, I think things are going to be very, very, very good for him. And that two-year deal, they can tear that up real quick, depending on how well— If he plays well, they'll tear it up next year.

Oh, yeah. Man, listen. I'm excited for him. Ryan Gordon, what are your thoughts on Pittsburgh Steelers' choices so far? Well, I mean, I like the DK. The only thing they've done, they've done DK. They've gotten DK. I mean, what else have they done to that with that, oh, they signed Slate? You got to get a quarterback.

I don't care. They've had good defense. They've had skilled positions all that before. Without a quarterback, you ain't going nowhere. Yeah, at all. Especially not in that division. Not in that division. Hell in that division. Hell, the Steelers and the Browns. Big Blue,

why aren't you guys including Jameer Gibbs in the top five backs? He is. We just overlooked it, bro. You do realize we're going off the top of our dome. We got notes here like, okay, guys, let me explain how Ocho and I work. Like, okay, we have got notes here that are like, okay, guys, let me explain how Ocho and I work. Like, okay, we have the list of the rundown.

But when you hear me start naming our players, that's not on there. That's just off the top of my head. Off the top of the head, yeah. That's off the top of Ocho's head. We have a rundown in which the topics we're going to talk about. I know y'all was talking about, well, hey, Ash is probably feeding him information because I was going back and I was telling you we was talking about the Yankees,

and I was giving you different eras in which the players played. They were like, well, he recalls. Oh, he got it. No, I don't because I didn't even know we were going to talk about that until you brought up the Yankees and what made them special. And then, okay, we go into this field. Okay, we talk NASCAR. I have no idea we're going to talk NASCAR.

And then I just because if you're from the South, which I was, NASCAR's in you. You watched it. You watched all of them because NASCAR is not like it was. I think NASCAR used to come on CBS, if I'm not mistaken. And you know, Darren Earnhardt Jr. used

to drive the number two Wrangler car before he got the black Monte Carlo, the three and had the guyagor shades. And Darryl Waltrip drove the Tide 88 before he got the 11 car. And you have Buddy Baker, you had Bobby and Donnie Allison, all those guys, Buddy Baker,

all those guys, you know, I watched them, Harry Gant, the Skull Bandit, Neil Bonnet, Austin Bill from Dawsonville. This was before Jeff Gordon and Jimmy Johnson and Dale Earnhardt Jr. and all these guys.

That was before them. So that's why, you know, and I remember I used to sit down, what else you gonna watch? You had three channels, on, off, and don't mess with me. So it wasn't like you just, like it is now, or you got 500 channels to choose from. Please.

But no, we do not have every back. No, I didn't even know we was going to talk about this. But the backs came up and don't you like, hey, so I'm just,

we just rattled names off the top of my head. Right. It's an honest mistake. It's not like we know what Jameer Gibbs is. He's special. He can run and catch.

Mm-hmm. Boy, you're about the closest thing we done seen toameer Gibbs is. He's a special sensation. He can run and catch. Mm-hmm. Boy, you're about the closest thing we done seen to Chris Johnson, boy. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy says, fast break, pump fake, big mistake. No Lakers in five. Doc!

What you said today had me dying, boy. PGA? USA. USA. Well, I was in tears. That was funny. Kevin Brooks, I'll get on to you.

Build a starting offense and defense using NFL football players that are in the media or used to be in the media. Well, that's easy. Me, Strahan, Gronk, Brady. Moss. media well that's easy me straight hand grump brady uh moss ocho moss uh uh fred taylor ryan clark whoa sorry deal You ain't made the cut. First of all, you're not beating out Brady or Troy. And because of the money,

we're limited to only two quarterbacks on the roster, so I'm sorry. Who else? Let me try to think. Hold on. Who else? Who else am I missing? Oh, Charles Woodson. See what?

Yeah, Woody. Whatever. Who else come on there? I guess we got to put a, what'd you call him on there? Uh, Damian Woody. We need somebody. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. We need somebody to block. Oh, Joe. Oh, JJ. I mean, Hey, deal. Don't feel bad. Matt Ryan didn't make it either. So.

So. Now. Huh? Yeah, Kelsey. Playmaker. Mm-hmm. Playmaker. They aren't in the media.

They're a football coach. Is Fitz? Is Fitzgerald, does Fitzgerald do anything for the I guess you take Sherm, Smitty. Oh, I'm sorry about Sherm. Yeah. Jason Whitworth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Big wit. Big wit.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Saturday. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Saturday. Greg Olsen. Gonzo. Hey. Yeah, I'll be saying, how many tight ends are we playing with? You got me, too.

I know I'm going to be one of the tight ends. I don't know who else is going to be one, but I'm going to be one. Well, you already said Gronk, so you got to go between Gronk and what you call it? Gronk and Gonzo. Okay. I'm going to be one of the tight ends. I don't know who else is going to be one, but I'm going to be one. Well, you already said Gronk, so you got to go between Gronk and what you call it? Gronk and Gonzo. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Greg. It's a good one, Ocho.

Yeah. Shannon Ocho who wins Brady Unk and the 85 Bears Ocho my homeboy

Ray Lewis and the Ravens defense shit Ravens defense I ain't even got to think about that I ain't even got to listen I ain't got to think about that twice I don't think people understand how good that Ravens defense was man

man that's not even fair not even not even fair not even not's not even fair. Not even, not even fair. Not even, not even, not even fair. I think we will get y'all, Ocho.

I got Brady. J213 said, hey, Ocho, two questions. Do you have any plans to come to Boston for a signing?

Also, which NFL team do you think won day one of free agency? Whoever won day one of free agency going to be some crap this year NFL team do you think won day one of free agency? Whoever won day one of free agency, going to be some crap this year. So whoever you think won,

say please don't let it be us that we think we won day one of free agency. Because everybody that wins day one of signing of free agency, don't be nothing until the coming regular season. Yes. I don't know if I'm coming to Boston, but we do have distribution in Massachusetts. So I will be coming to a store. I'm not sure in what area of Boston, but I will be coming. Aaron Owen says, the Bengals make me want to pull my damn hair out.

Well, at least I got the calves. True? Yeah. Listen, at some point we're going to make moves. I'm the Cavs. True? Yeah. Listen, at some point we're going to make moves. I'm not sure when. I'm curious to see how long they're going to take. We're not the type of team that really waits to the last minute, you know, to do things. If they're going to do it, they get it done. When it came to Joe Burrow, they didn't play no games.

They didn't play no games. So I'm assuming, you know, when it comes to Chase and T, if we're going to sign T, it needs to be done now. There's no need in waiting. There's no point in waiting. I understand what they have to do. They have to think about the future and the books, the way the money's spread out. They got to do all that stuff first. But, you know, let's get it done in adequate time

so we can have the gang back together if it's going to be possible. Pretty much it. Isaiah Lancaster. What's good, Uncle Nocho? Two questions. Do you feel you and Stephen A have the best chemistry out of previous colleagues you work with,

and who are your five quarterbacks with the best arm talent? Are they talking about currently or best arm talent ever? Ever? Marino, Rogers. Elway. Elway. by currently or best arm talent ever ever uh marino rogers elway elway uh brett farve i mean my my vic i'm to our arm arm. Man, you know how Vic don't even step into the ball and flick his 70. True. I'm talking about flicking. I'm like, man, what the? I think the thing is that what you have to understand is that

first take for me is different than was Undisputed. Undisputed was basically Shannon versus Skip. The topics were what we talked about, and this was not on purpose, but he was a Jordan, I was LeBron. He was Brady, I was Mahomes. He was this, I was that. So it set up perfect.

He liked the Cowboys, I didn't. I mean, just being honest. He didn't think Luka was good. I did. He didn't think Jokic was that good. I did. It was actually a debate format. If you look at today, how we do on first take,

it's more of a conversation. So I had to adapt because I'm used to coming out there. This was a prize fight. And I'm trying to win. I'm trying to win all two hours and 30 minutes adapt because I'm used to coming out there. This was a prize fight and I'm trying to win. I'm trying to win all two hours and 30 minutes in which I'm on the air. So it's different. Um, skipping out,

we were unbelievable. And it's not easy to do that every single day because I was the energy I always had to be on yeah it wasn't no you know easing into it because I only got I only got a small amount of time to grab someone's attention and hold it and hold it yeah so I'm coming out I'm Usain Bolt I'm coming out the blocks and I'm running hard as I possibly canain Bolt. I'm coming out the blocks, and I'm running hard as I possibly can for as long as I can. So it's just different.

I think the thing is that now I'm starting to get like, hey, and Stephen A.G., I mean, Stephen A. has always told me, hey, just be you. Okay. So I didn't want to come and right out the gate dunk all of the undisputed Shannon on the desk. Right.

You know, I'm starting to get back, you know, have the Lakers in five and things like that, the one-liners and things of that nature, and dating this and that. So I think Steve and I, but you got to realize, I mean, Skip and I, we started, boom, boom, boom, and slowly build. And this is on the Steve and I. We've only been together a year. Skip it, I was together seven years. We don't get it. That concludes this episode of Nightcap brought to you by Boost Mobile.

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