Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Shedeur Sanders responds to critics + Unc & Ocho talk NFL rookie contracts

Episode Date: May 11, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Cleveland Browns rookie Shedeur Sanders' comments on critics, discuss their rookie signing bonuses, and much more!01:47 - Shedeur Sanders on Critics14:25 - Shedeur on if he’ll buy #2 from teammate24:17 - Jets rookie on signing bonus41:35 - Bengals rookies sitting while unsigned53:50 - Q & Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Shadur spoke to the media today and had a couple of notable soundbites. Listen to what Shadur on critics saying that he didn't have the talent to be selected at the top of the draft. Let's take a listen to what Shadur had to say, Ocho. Mm-hmm. I mean, thank you for saying that because I don't – like, my job here isn't to prove people wrong. Like, I prove myself right. That's – and I fully have self-belief, you know,

and what those people say, that's just their opinion. So I don't truly care. They don't really live in my mental space about that type of stuff. So it really doesn't do anything for me. I like that. And that's what I tell people. Your job is not to prove somebody wrong.

It's your job to prove yourself right. And if you prove yourself right in the process of proving you right, you'll prove them wrong. Oh, yeah. And that's the thing that, you know, you have to learn. And it's been a process.

Stop worrying about what people that don't know you think. Think. Stop worrying about what people that don't know you think think stop worrying about that because i'll tell you heard me say this all i want people to love i would just i just need the people that i love to love me come on see you trying to see you you're trying to and and and and you know obviously the elephant is not in the room he outside but everybody knows what I'm going through a lot of people had a lot to say come on now but as my brother been calling me

a lot I met a lot of people and thank you all everybody that's reached out and the thoughts and prayers I sincerely appreciate that but but when you think about it

Ocho man 50% 50% of the people don't care that you got problems. The other 50% glad you got them. Come on, Pastor. Come on, Pastor. Take your time.

I agree with you, Doran. I'm not worried about, look, I'm where I am. This is why I'm in Cleveland. 30 other teams, 31 other teams that didn't select me, and I understand that there's some teams, you know, Cincinnati and Baltimore, and certain teams weren't in the realm for a quarterback.

I'm not talking about those. Thank you, Cleveland, for giving me an opportunity. Sometimes all you need is an opportunity. And now, what you do with that opportunity will tell us who and what you are. Yeah.

But the thing is, Ocho, is that, you know, you have to learn that I'm learning. It is still a learning process. Is that you got to drown out the noise, man. You can't be concerned with everybody. Because everybody's going to have an opinion. Everybody thinks they know you. They really do. Everybody thinks they know you when They really do. Everybody thinks they know you

when they really don't. They heard this or they heard that. Have you ever talked to Shannon? Have you ever been around with Shannon? Have you been around Ocho? Have you been in Ocho's present? So what makes you think you know him? How well do you know him? So Shador, just go do your thing.

That's all he can do now, Ocho. Now it's about playing at some point in time the talking will stop yeah the playing will start yeah the cream will rise

to the top and then we'll have something to talk about but right now I don't really yeah they keep I think

sometimes I think they keep they want to make him frustrated they want to make him lash out yeah I should have been this yeah I should have been that he's too well schooled he's not like that I think sometimes I think they want to make him frustrated. They want to make him lash out. Yeah, I should have been this. Yeah, I should have been that. He's too well-schooled.

He's not like that. He's too well-schooled. I call it he's seasoned. Even though he's just getting here, based on where he's coming from, he's seasoned. He's already prepared, mentally prepared for this. He's going to be fine. And the one thing I do like is I want to prove me wrong. I want to prove me wrong. I want to prove me wrong.

We have too many people today, especially in today's society, we're in a social media era where everybody is worried about looking a certain way, dressing a certain way, looking at the part, looking like I have it,

because they're so worried about what everybody else is going to say. Every morning you get up and you look in that mirror, that's the person you're in competition with. Yep.

That's it. I just need to beat him from yesterday, Ocho. Every time. Honestly, I just need to be better today than that guy was yesterday. Yeah.

I'm good. Yeah, every time. And every time you look in the mirror, right, and you have to understand I'm competing against me. Yes. And anytime you compare yourself

to somebody else, comparison is a thief of joy. Yep. You're going to be sad every time depending on who you compare yourself to somebody else, comparison is a thief of joy. Yep. You're going to be sad every time depending on who you compare yourself to. Man, shit. You better put them

goddamn horse binders on like at the Kentucky Derby. Put your head down and just go straight forward. That's it. At your own pace. Because you don't know, you don't know nothing

about nobody else's story. No. You don't know nothing about nobody else's story. Focus on your food right there in front of you and stop trying to pick off what other people play.

Man, you're going to be all right, man. Too many people, they lose like that, huh? They lose like that. Worried about everybody else and you drive yourself crazy trying to please everybody too. You do.

You do. Because at the end of the day, are you happy? Because there have been times, Ocho, where in the process of trying to please somebody, I was trying to please

everybody else, but the one person that was unhappy was me. So in the process, everybody else is happy. Everybody's ecstatic. They do what I'm giving them. They're doing this,

they're doing that, and I'm miserable. I'm asking myself, is it enough? What else do I need to do? Because I'm trying to make sure everybody else is happy. Yeah. And deep down inside, I'm asking myself, is it enough? What else do I need to do? Because I'm trying to make sure everybody else is happy. Yeah.

And deep down inside, I'm dying. That's a... It's one thing to be alone. It's something else entirely different to be lonely. See, there are two different things, alone and lonely. See, you can be alone and be content with that. You can

be with someone and be lonely. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey, what he said is something else. Yeah, right. It's just there, boy. I took a nap. It's, uh... That's a very fine line, Ocho.

That's a very, very fine line. Boy, you just said something just there, boy. Hey, alone and lonely. You could be alone, but it don't mean you lonely. Correct. Absolutely correct.

Hey, that juicy. That juicy. Next time I get, when I get in my next argument, I get in my next argument with Shan, I'm going to use that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to use that. It's, but a lot of times, Ocho, and the thing is, is that like, when you've been alone for a long period of time. Right.

You realize. Mm-hmm. That you really don't have time for BS. Mm. But, but, you know, we talk about humans though huh yes you know we all come with a little baggage now yes now when you're alone for a very long period of time depending on how long that period may be you go into it with understanding at some point even though you don't want to deal with no bs it come with something yeah Ocho. I think the thing is that what I've learned in my life

is that you're dating a person's past and all the trauma that's in that past. And people don't understand that. And the thing is that people don't put on their resume

because if I have to fill out something, you think I'm going to put my worst attributes on that resume? I'm going to put my best foot forward. And I'm going to tell you all the reasons why I should have this job, not the reasons why I shouldn't. So if a person wants to be in a relationship, they're going to tell you all the things and show you all the things, the reasons why you should select he or her in that relationship. I like that. I like that. I like that. It's not what you know that hurts you.

It's what you find out that hurts you. I'm done, Ocho. I ain't finished. Ocho, I'm done. I'm done, Ocho. I'm done. I'm done.

I'm done. Hey, Pastor Sharp, don't do the congregation like that. I know the chat. I know I'm not do the congregation like that. I know the chat. I know I'm not the only one taking notes. I know the chat. I know y'all taking notes. Don't lie to me now.

But take your time now. I think that's the thing. People are like, what I don't know won't hurt me. But what you find out later could hurt you. Yeah. See, that's what I love. I love starting. I love starting.

And for us and for people that are known where it's what I love. I love starting. I love starting. And for us and for people that are known where it's a simple Google. We talk about people filling out their resumes and always putting their best foot forward when they meet people. You know, for those that don't like to be honest, like, listen, I come with baggage. I come with A, B, C and D. But I'm going to check the boxes and what you need done for you in your life and me helping you. I'm also going to provide D, E, and F. So can we counter or can we balance and come to a happy medium where you understand what baggage I do have? And bitch, can you unpack it? Right.

That's it? Because you're not going to meet anybody where everything is, oh, my God, it's a piece of cream. No, no, no, no, no, no. Right? That's not reality. But we love to make it seem like you're the greatest thing. Women, all the time. Oh, he fumbled me.

You mean to tell me everybody you came across fumbled you? Must have been raining. Must have been raining. You must be real slippery. He can't hold on to you. Hold on. You that much of slippery. You can't hold on to you. Hold on. You that much of a catch? Damn, no marriage?

Every relationship? It's because we're all human at the end of the day. No matter what we may think about ourselves, you got to feel highly about yourself. You have to. Oh, yeah, you're supposed to. Listen, we're just regular folk at the end of the day. You know, you put your stuff on, your aesthetics and your jewelry, your makeup.

When you take all that shit off, that's the real you. You're still just you. You're just human. I think at the end of the day, Ocho, is that what I wanted to say. I wanted to say, I forgot my train of thought. I was going to say something. I don't know if it was profound or not,

but I wanted to say it. I wanted to say it. It'll come back to me. Come on, take your time. Take your time, man. What I wanted to say, it was on the tip of my tongue. And I don't let it slip my mind.

I'm going to go upstairs tonight and I'll be thinking about it. That's what I wanted to tell Ocho. That's exactly. Oh, I know what this young lady told me one time. She said, Shannon, you got a lot of scar tissue.

She said, but let me love you with all those scars. She said, Shannon, the thing is with you, you don't know how to receive love. I don't know if you've ever been loved, but I do know you don't know how to receive it. She said, I'll love you don't know how to receive it she said I'll love you past all those scars if you just allow it

I wanted to put my head on the shoulder and cry with you that's what I wanted to do but you know at that stage pride wouldn't let me it wouldn't let me.

It wouldn't let me. So I think that's the thing that we all want. We want to be loved. We want to be appreciated. Boy, you got me about to tear up, boy. You don't see my eyes. Boy, you got... But say that one more time. Say the line

about the scars. Say the line she told you about the scars. She wanted to love me in spite of my scars. She said, I see the scar tissue. She said,

I see the hurt in your heart. I hear the way you talk. I see the way you look. She said, I see it and I hear all scar tissue. She said, I see the hurt in your heart. I hear the way you talk. I see the way you look. She said, I see it and I hear all of that. She said, but I could love you past all that. She said, I just need you to receive the love that I'm trying to give you. Boy, that's deep.

Yeah, boy. People don't understand. Is it? Shador had a hilarious response after being asked if he was going to buy number two off DeAndre Carter. Let's take a listen to what Shador had to say about number two jersey. You try to buy two from DeAndre? No, I'm not trying to buy anything. My signing bonus ain't that high right now.

Yeah. I don't blame you, Shador You gotta have some bread Like I said Yeah When I went to Baltimore, Ocho I didn't want no I didn't want a odd number

I didn't want 81 or 83 85, something like that I didn't want that I wanted an even number I went to Jermaine Lewis Who had number 84 at the time. Yeah, I remember Jermaine. I offered him.

I said, I'll buy you and your wife matching Rolex. You get a his, she get a hers. Woo! He said, nah, I want to keep it. So I ain't never really liked that. The 88 number just didn't seem well with me. 82 sat well. 82 was cool.

Frank Wainwright had it. And I was like, I hit him up. I said, Freaky Frank, man, what you want for that number? He was with,

if I'm not mistaken, I think he was with me a couple of, like in 99, he ended up getting released. He was with me in Denver. So I kind of knew him a little bit.

I said, Freaky Frank, man, what you want for 82? He's like, Sharpie, I don't want anything. You can have it. I said, nah,. I said, freaking Frank, man, what you want for 82? He's like, Sharpie, I don't want anything. You can have it.

I said, nah, nah, nah, freaking Frank, that's your number. You got to give me something. And I want to give you something.

I said, what you like to do? What's your hobbies? He said, man, Sharpie, I don't like to do anything but fish. Yeah.

Man, I said, here. I said, how much does a bass boat cost? He said, uh, you don't have to do that.

I said, uh-huh. You bought a boat? I bought him a bass boat. Damn. do that. I said, uh-huh. You bought him a boat? I bought him a bass boat. Damn. I did. I bought him a bass boat. Hey, if I was willing to give, you know, back then Rolex was probably his and hers probably

been about $30,000. If I was willing to do that to get that, get 84, I'm going to pay you like 14 grand for it. Oh, that's it? Oh, okay, okay, okay. So you got off much better. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

So, and plus, Ozzie kind of had that number. I said, but Ozzie, it ain't the same. It ain't Cleveland. I said, if it was Cleveland, it'd be one thing. You ain't, this ain't Cleveland. So, but it was good. It worked out. And so I don't blame you, dude. I ain't paying that money. I ain't, this ain't Cleveland. But it was good. It worked out. And so I don't blame you.

I ain't paying that money. I ain't paying nothing either. A fifth round draft pick. Now, when I got 84, cause I was 81 my first two years, Ocho.

And then Ricky Natil ended up going to, I think he went to Tampa or something. Man, when I found out he wasn't coming back, man,

I called Dan so quick. I said, Dan, can I get 84? He's like, Dan so quick. I said, Dan, can I get 84? He's like, absolutely, Shark. I said, hey. Hey, I called the equipment guy. What was his name?

Bill. Bill something. Ronnie Bill. No, Ronnie Bill was the uncle. But anyway, his nephew was the equipment guy at the time. I said, bro, you might as well go ahead and take that sharp off 81 and put it on the back of 84. I already called Dan.

Yeah. Boy, you talking about happy? I feel, ah, damn, 84, this is neat. Hey, having the number you want, it just do something to you. It does, Ojo. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. DeAndre Carter.

Yeah. What position young boy play? I don't? Yeah. DeAndre Carter. Yeah. What position did Young Bull play? I don't know. What position did DeAndre Carter play? Probably offense. I'm going to think it. Receiver. What was he in college?

He had to be a higher draft pick than Shadur Wesley. So he's a rookie? He's a rookie coming in? He's not a rookie. He already had it. Oh, he might've came in free agency, Ocho.

And why me? Why wouldn't he give, hold on. Now, when you have a single digit number, right? Yeah. When you wear that single digit number,

you understand what comes, you understand what come you understand what comes with that whether it be pop warner middle school high school wow in the nfl everybody with a single digit number is that boy deandre carter he's been number 16 number 14 number 19 he's been one twice he's been 82 he's been three he's been 11 now he's number two why you named so many numbers because he's been on that many teams all right no disrespect to him i hope young bull has a phenomenal season and show that you know what out with that number two on handy your business but hey number two hey you got any hey anytime anything from one to nine, you got to be special.

You cannot wear no single digit number if you're not like that. That's what I said. Why would, okay, but I hope young people. Yeah. I mean, period. Certain things are just mandatory. That is mandatory. It's an unwritten rule, too, at that.

Yes. HBCUs, any college. I mean, NFL, single-digit numbers are for those who are like that. Like that. And they put butts in the seats. But that's neither here nor there. Yeah, for sure. I was single-digit ever since because I took the number three from my brother.

So I went three all the way through high school, and I went two all the way through college. So, yeah. I wish we could have had single-digit numbers because I definitely would have gotten number two. Well, Mike Horan had it. Oh, back then? Yes.

Oh, yeah. I definitely would have got number two. Well, Mike Horan had it. Oh, back then? Yes. Oh, yeah. I definitely would have got number two. Well, Mike Horan, the punter, had it. But as soon as he left, I'd have got it. Because back then, Ocho, it wasn't like it is now. You got a number, and if you change numbers, you got to buy all the other jerseys and circulations and all that. They just...

I had to do that, yeah. Oh, did you? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Listen, I had no problem doing it because I understood what that name change had done. Ocho, we know how the media likes to critique any misstep

time sons to paint a false narrative. I bet they won't highlight how respectful they are. Watch the video of Shiloh shaking every media member hand before start of first availability. Let's take a listen, Ocho. My new media team

here. There you go. That's all we got. Logan, let's meet Shiloh. How are you? Rock, pleasure, man. Brandon. Jenna. Scott. Nice to meet you. Lee, please meet you. Rob. There. Scott. Nice to meet you. Love you, too. Lee, please meet you.

Rob. There you go. Rob, thanks for that. Oh, my God. We're going to go home right here. There you go. Appreciate you, my guy. Nice, nice.

All right, I'll just stand right here. Yeah. According to Jenna Lane, Shiloh was the only player who's done that this week. He said Bucs were the first team to call. He's forever grateful that they gave him a chance. Hey, listen, you might want

to make friends with them now because they're going to be right there. They're going to be like Nats. They're going to be like Knicks and they're going to be fair. That's all we ask. Yeah, they're going to be fair. Everything is up to you. You might as well be nice to them yeah. They're going to be fair. Everything is up to you. You might as well be nice to them because they're going to be in your face

for a very, very long time. I'd be so good that when I have a bad game, it's like, hey, this is an aberration. This is not how he normally plays. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, I was very, very fortunate. I think the thing is, Ocho,

when you come in as a low draft pick, you get a lot more grace because there's not the expectation of a first, second, third-round pick on you. So he's an undrafted free agent, so he'll get more benefit of the doubt than someone that was a first, second, or third-round pick or a veteran player that's played for a number of years. Kind of like, I was second-round pick, Ocho.

What are they going to say? Oh, he's not very good? I was second-round pick. But when I got good, it was like, hey, I remember this guy was special teams. We saw how hard he worked, blah, blah, blah, X, Y, and Z. He'll give him the grace, but he will have earned it. He will have earned it.

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Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jeff rookie Armand Mimbo didn't realize he would be rich after signing his rookie contract. Ocho, take a listen to what he had to say. What was yesterday like for you signing your first contract? It was pretty cool, especially once. I looked at all them zeros on the page. I didn't realize how much money I was getting, but now it's definitely a blessing for sure.

Yeah, them zeros. Hey, boy, look at them zeros. And the funny thing about it is he got drafted. He went through the whole process and didn't know how much you were getting paid until you looked at the goddamn check which lets me know that young boy is strictly about the game of football mm-hmm well how you don't know no what what pick because he probably oh sure because you know a lot of them guys that contract guarantee

oh yeah yeah yeah yeah depending on how you go yeah absolutely he's the seventh pick of the draft oh his contract fully guaranteed oh he's number seven yeah yeah he's fully guaranteed oh yeah boy you got that money 32 mil Ocho

ooh 32 Oh, yeah, boy. You got that money. 32 mil. 32 mil, Locho. Oh. 32. They probably gave him a good 15 signing bonus. Yeah. Different. I know he feeling good. Feeling real good. Hey, it's funny how your life changed just like that, man, in a matter of 24 hours.

Just like that. 24 hours. All the work you put in, all the ups, the downs, the obstacles. Oh my goodness. That, that, that, I remember that feeling like it was, like it was yesterday.

Well, I don't, that, that didn't happen to me. Mr. Boulder got his back pocket. Hey, I got,

uh, I made 60, my, my, my, my rookie contract, my base salary, my rookie year was $63,000.

Dang. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. 73. I made 73 the next year. Damn. Oh, you only had a $10,000 raise? $10,000. Oh, I got another $10,000 if I led special teams.

If I got $10,000 if I led special teams and tackle, I got $7,500 if I got second, and I got 5,000. So I picked up five one year, picked up that 10 the next. Right, right, right, right. And the 10 come in handy, you know what I'm saying? No joke.

Yeah. It's so funny. Back then, if you think about the times we're in now, look at the prices of everything now, the economy we're in now. Back then, $63,000. That was a lot of goddamn money.

I was a good high-end banker. Yeah, that was a lot of good money, boy. Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, that was when I had incentives. That's why I was upset, Ocho, because remember I told you I had $100,000 if I got 1,000 yards receiving. Right. And I had $9.95 at the half and didn't catch another pass, didn't get another pass

thrown my way. Why didn't you tell the quarterback? I went to the pro. I was the first team all pro and made 325. Hmm. I made the Pro Bowl my third year. I made 225. Go back,

made the Pro Bowl again, led all the tight ends and catches, touchdowns, and yards. First team all pro. Me and my brother were first team all pros.

325. That's crazy. That 100 would have came in good, don't you? Yeah, it would have came in real, real nice. It's funny, my how times have changed. Now times have changed. What was the first thing you bought?

You got your signing bonus. You probably got half a mil, 750. What was the first thing you bought? Oh my goodness. I remember signing that check and leaving Mike Brown's office. I will never forget. And I'm not sure the signing bonus had anything to do with the purchase or anything. But I went to McDonald's right in Covington, right over the bridge, next to the Waffle House.

And I celebrated signing my first deal. And the first thing I bought or purchased... Golly, huh? It might have been I got my first Chevy. Yeah, it probably wasn't nothing I got during the season. I think it might have been in the off-season. I bought my first Donk. For those that are in the chat, they're from Miami. Oh, you bought a Don in the off season. I bought my first donk for those that are in the chat. They're from Miami.

Yeah. I bought my first donk. Um, and I never forget, I'm sure Van Dyke could probably see this, uh, Van Dyke. You're probably remember that day,

a friend of mine, he owns a restaurant called I crave here in Miami. Very good soul food spot. So if you ever come down here to, um, to Miami, you got to check out. I crave,

I bought my first Chevyvy from van dyke remember i bought him uh i forgot how much it was but i bought him a cash and a little envelope and that that was my first car that was always a dream car of mine it was always something i looked at some of the the older the older you know uh dudes had in my area in liberty city and i was like you know what grandma one day i want And she said, boy, you'll never have no guy that you won't be driving. All that noise and dripping oil in my driveway. And that was my first person. I was like, finally, I made it.

I can get one for myself. Well, I went to Dairy Queen, got a bacon double cheeseburger, large fry, vanilla milkshake, and Oreo Blizzard. Wait, where? Dairy Queen? Dairy Queen. You said a burger. A bacon double cheeseburger? Dairy Queen? Dairy Queen. You said a burger. A bacon double cheeseburger. Dairy Queen sell things outside of just ice cream?

Yeah. The hell? I ain't know that. Yeah, fish sandwiches, yeah. Well, hold on. Actually, they got steak fingers now. Well, there's no, there can't be no Dairy Queen in Miami

because I'd never heard of an ice cream place that's known for ice cream selling anything outside ice cream. Nah. I mean, they do burgers. 31 Flavors, where you at? Huh? 31 Flavors?

Baskin-Robbins. Oh, that's Baskin-Robbins? Yes. Dairy Queen and Baskin-Robbins is something entirely different. Baskin-Robbins only sell ice cream. Dairy Queen sell other stuff too. Okay, I never knew that.

They sell hot dogs. They sell chicken tenders. They sell fish filet, fish sandwiches. They have a single cheeseburger, a double, and a triple. Right. But I got the bacon double cheeseburger, huh? You ever been to Jumbo's? They got Jumbo's?

They got Jumbo's where you from? No. What about White Castle? Not where I'm from, a small town. We had Dairy Queen and we had Hardee's. Oh, see, that's why you from, okay, okay, okay. I didn't know about no White Castle until maybe I got to Colorado. They had crystals like in Savannah.

I was on the road. I think I might have been to Daytona. Crystals in Daytona, right, if I'm not mistaken. I went to NASCAR and I went to Crystals with some folks. It was cool. It was cool. I enjoyed it. My first time having in North Carolina,

I had a cookout. I ain't never heard of that. What? You never heard of cookout? Nope. Oh, man. I stopped outside the road driving home and ate a Cracker Barrel, though. Oh, hey. Cracker Barrel good, man.

Some people don't like it. I hear all the chirps. If you could get in there, it would seem like everybody else would be stopping to try to get Cracker Barrel good, man. It is. Some people don't like it. I hear all the chirps. If you can get in there, it seems like everybody else be stopping trying to get Cracker Barrel too. Right? Hey, the mama's breakfast from Cracker Barrel,

the pancakes with the egg scramble, with the sausage, and I have them warm a syrup up. So it come out hot, man, stop playing. Yeah. What we talking about? Yeah.

So, yeah, bro, you straight now but uh i tell people all the time it ain't how much you make it's how much you keep oh yeah all the time hey look if there's something that you always wanted hey get your mom a little crab you a crib you ain't got to get your mom no twenty thousand ten thousand square feet get your mom mom mom something that she can keep you know she can keep up herself um and you know you wanted something i know you there's something that you wanted a special type of car i mean considering that you're in new york you're probably gonna get an suv you need something that you can drive all the time so whether it's a g wagon or a range rover something that you know that you a stylish in the spring and summer but also it gets cold

it gets snow on the ground in new york so you're gonna have to you need it needs to be have a dual purpose now unlike uh you know if you're in tampa you're in miami hey it ain't gonna snow you can get you you can get you you know rose or bitly i'm saying if you're a high draft high round draft pick if that's what you want whatever it is that i've always wanted, you get that. But yeah, just, but after that, bro, like, hey, stock that money. Yeah, most definitely. Stock it. Yeah.

Oh, matter of fact, matter of fact, before we keep on, before we keep going, for all the mothers that are in the chat, um, if you're on the, if you're on the East coast, uh, happy mother's day to all of you, uh, to my baby. I know you probably sleep when you're watching happy mother's day to you as well. Uh, and that's pretty,

that's pretty much it. Yeah. Happy mother's day. Um, obviously we're, we're not on tomorrow. Yeah. Let me go and get it down.

Cause we're not on tomorrow. So happy mother's day to everybody that's on the East coast. Even if you're not on the East Yeah. Let me go and get it down because we're not on tomorrow. So happy Mother's Day to everybody that's on the East Coast. Even if you're not on the East Coast, happy Mother's Day. This is your day. Enjoy. Enjoy this day and many, many more to come because you've earned it. You've earned this day. Brunch, whatever the case may be, bottomless mimosas,

whatever the case you and your girls or your mimosas, whatever the case, you and your girls or your mimosas, whatever it is, drink to your heart content, whether it's you and your girls, you and your hubby, your boyfriend, your significant other, or it's just a family outing to all the mothers out there. Congratulations for the job that you do. And hopefully you enjoy your day because you've earned this day. Man, they don't do nothing like that for us. Oh, it's your old father's day. Huh? Hey, listen.

You know, look at what do all the athletes say when they get the camera in them? Hey, mom. Hey, dad. Ain't nobody holding no sign saying, hey, dad. Hey, mom. I'm a notorious for, hey, dad, hey, mom, I'm a notorious for, hey, granny.

At that time, my grandmother was the only one alive. All my other, my grandparents had passed away. So, uh, no, but,

uh, to all the moms out there, sincerely from the bottom of our heart here at nightcap, Ocho and I, we want to wish you a very, very special day and hopefully you enjoy this day. Basically, I mean,

you basically can celebrate to all the great mothers out there that's doing a wonderful job. You really should have every day as Mother's Day because it's a huge undertaking to raise kids, to raise a family,

to be that person, that rock, that foundation. So, we just want to say thank you for the job that you do. I'm going,

I'm going to, I'm going to the, to the grave site early in the morning. I think they open at eight, eight, nine o'clock. I'm going out there.

Call that the old girl and my grandma. Sit down, sit down there with them, them for a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

You are, you going out there, you going to eat with them? Yeah, you know, but I don't, I don't eat. I got my coffee and my cigar and I got a little chair in it.

I got a little chair in the back of my truck. Yeah. I sit in the little chair out there, you know, and I play, I play some of the old school Mississippi Mass Choir. Right. Uh, you know, had a song. Yeah, Jay, Reverend Jay in Cleveland, Reverend Jay's boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

My grandfather loved him. Hey, man, listen, man. Five blind boys. What you know about the five blind boys, man? I'll never forget that. I always think about, I always question life after death. And where do people go once they pass on it, they transition. I always say it all the time.

Every blue moon, even I think on here before, I always look for signs. If you loved me the way you said you did when you were alive, how come you never talked to me once you left? I'd never get any signs. People say, well, signs are always there. They're always there. You just never pay attention. So I started paying attention to everything that was not normal that went along or went on in my life. And still to this day, grandma passed away in 2018 my grandma i mean yeah my

mama been gone now since 2021 and i just been waiting on a sign of some sort you know the whisper sometimes you know you hear people say um my mama came to me and my grandma came to me or so and so came to me in my dream and i could hear her voice i just haven't gotten that sign yet and i can't wait i can't wait for that day where I can get that sign just to know that they're okay. Are they doing well? Or just, let's put it that way. I think sometimes, Ocho, when we're looking for signs, I think you say, speak to us. You're looking for them like you and I are talking right now.

And it doesn't happen like that. I mean, sometimes it does. It comes to you in your dream. I mean, you know, people say, man. And it would just seem like just yesterday I was just talking, you know, to my mom or my dad or somebody, a significant other in your dream. I mean, you know, people say, man, and it would just seem like just yesterday I was just talking, you know, to my mom or my dad or somebody, a significant other in my family

that I've lost and they were having a conversation. Right. And that's happened. I've actually, you know, been in a dream and I tell my sister I was having a conversation

with Granny and it just seemed like it was just so real. Mm. But yeah, that's tough. Yeah, man. That's tough because you want you... I mean, I think Ocho, for me, my grandmother saw a lot of what I've accomplished.

I mean, she was there going to college. And I was telling somebody, she was there, you know, going to college. And I was talking, I was telling somebody, I was like, probably the proudest that I probably, that I think I've been, my grandmother came

to see my last college game. Last college game I played at Savannah State, my grandmother came. She had never seen me play before that. They brought my sister, they brought her out on the field. You know, it's like,

hey, you know, no, no. Boy, I gave a look, Ocho. My grandma came on the field and then she came to see me graduate in college. Man. That's live. To see that, to see that

to see a baby catch a touchdown in his final game at Savannah State to see a baby get that degree because I told people I tell this story all the time on show my grandmother sent me to Savannah State for two reasons to get a degree and go to the NFL I didn't know which one was going to happen first but they were both going to happen

my grandma didn't send me there to you know bull job around like I'm here which one was going to happen first, but they were both going to happen. Yeah. My grandma didn't see me around there to, you know, bull jive around. I'm like, I'm here. If I'm here, and I've never understood that,

that some people go to college for four years and they're further from graduating than when they got there. How the hell did that happen? Bro, I'm here. And I started in developmental studies oh joe yeah developmental studies

man i wasn't embarrassed they couldn't embarrass me all them guys they didn't want to go to class man they gonna think i'm dumb well theoretically you're about about uh about a little along you are but the objective is not to stay that way man the joke was flunked out because he wouldn't go to school what i'm going up in the old show go right to that trailer i'm first one in sitting in class i'm gonna get that good old get them biscuits sausage biscuits scrabbled eggs yeah uh orange juice belly full go sit up there and learn. I'm not embarrassed. I'm not embarrassed for the results I didn't

get for the work that I didn't put in. I know I didn't do what I was supposed to do in high school, so how could I expect exemplary results when I gave bull jive effort? I put the work in, I put the effort in, the results came.

It's really that simple. It really is. It's not the Pythagorean theorem. It's not this overly complex situation, Ocho. Hard work doesn't guarantee you anything, but I believe without it, you don't really have a chance. See, sometimes, like, man, I work hard. Hard work doesn't guarantee that you're going to get what you set out to get. I just believe that without it, you don't have a chance.

Right. And that's all I've ever wanted was a chance. I'll let the chips fall where they may, don't you know? Mm-hmm. Wherever they may, wherever they may. I'm going to get, because I never, I never wanted to be one of those guys that look back and say, man, if I'd have, man, I think if I'd have did this a little better,, if I did it a little harder, if I hadn't gone to the club, if I had just trained a little harder, Ocho, ain't no telling.

Right. That ain't it for me. I got everything I could out of this God-given ability. And I got the scars to prove it. Because I pushed myself beyond probably what I should have. Or, no, I shouldn't say that because you don't know how far you can go until you go that far. Yes, sir. But you got to be willing to risk going that far to possibly know how far you can go.

That's what Edmund Hillary said when he's the first man to scale Mount Everest. He says only the man willing to risk going too far can possibly know how far he can go. Bengals first round pick Shamar Stewart isn't participating in any on-field work until his contract is finalized. Even with the standard injury waiver for rookies, let's take a listen to what Shamar had to say. Participate in minicamp today? I just decided not to sign those papers. Do you anticipate signing your contract before Monday to join the team, or you're not sure when that's going to come together?

I would hope so. I mean, I would love to be part of the team. I'd be on the sideline just looking at everybody else do work. How tough is it for you? Yeah, especially on the first day. It was kind of tough on me. Are you part of the meetings? Are you doing other things as part of this?

Oh, yeah, I'm doing everything else. I'm just like on the field stuff. I'm not doing that. Bengals' first and second round picks, Jamar Stewart and Demetrius Knight, are refusing to partake in off field uh on field work until they get their rookie deal signed stewart and knight are the only rookies refuse refusing to do field work until they sign despite having injury protection ocho what's going on in sensei yeah i'm not sure i mean if you have injury protection i'm sure the language in there despite having that clause in it there might be some some some verbiage that doesn't sit well

with not just them but their representation as well which is why they're not which is why they're not participating that's the only thing i could think of um i don't know what the severity of it is but it's enough to where they've been told not to participate just in case something happens. Normally, if you get a 10% bump, unless you're a quarterback, to what the slot got last year, so you get 10% quick. You get injured, you're going to get that. That's what you're going to get. I'm confused.

I really am, Ocho. I really am. Yeah, this is a situation that's really unfamiliar to me. I haven't done a deep dive into it. So, I mean, hopefully, listen. Hopefully, young boy. What selection was he? 12, 13?

Yeah, he was up there now. Yeah, I'm confused by this. Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on 17th can we see what the 17th pick got last year because normally you get a 10% raise unless you're a quarterback quarterback normally that spot he's gonna probably get 15 20% raise over what that because he's a premium position. Right. What?

$15 million? Maybe more. Maybe $20 million. I've been interested. Who was 17th pick last year? Yeah, I'm surprised that they're taking this stance. I mean,

think it, you get off on the wrong foot with the team already. Wait, who's on the wrong foot here? The player or the team? I mean, the team is what it is. I mean, the thing is, that's

why they put it in there because they didn't want a rookie to go hurt and then all of a sudden it decreases value well the value is there you get protections right okay yeah and i'm not sure in a situation like micah micah i totally agree with micah micah parsons right right they picked up a 50-yard option. He's like, no, I'm not getting on the field until I get this deal done. I get that. I totally get that. Oh, yeah.

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So you're looking at $21 million, don't you? Right. Okay. Understandable. Rams head coach, Sean McVay introduced newly acquired Devontae Adams to his teammates by showing his film. Let's watch the special intro, but

Sean McVay. Glad to be able to have Devontae Adams. He's got a lot of respect. He's earned it with the way that he works over the course of his career, but it's always good to be able to see some of the cool guys that put on tape. Looking forward to being able to see you guys partner

up with Tay. Up top, recognizing man coverage. And you can appreciate it from this angle, all right? The over the shoulder, but when you see it from the end zone, talk about being able to win ISO, sideline awareness. That, yes, we're always ranking up with Tay on that. And I thought you had, we got a couple more. One of the things that guys have seen about Devontae,

you can tell he was a hooper, can get parallel, can work edges on people. These are the things that you love to be able to see, all right? Isolation fades. This is going to make us better collectively on both sides, all right? Being able to add a great player like Devontae Adams, and he's got the ability to be able to finish and make plays. Very excited to add him, more importantly because of the person that he is. He is also a total G on the field. Give it up for Devon. Yeah, that's loud.

That's dope. That's dope. That's that boy. That's that boy. The greatest. One of the greatest rock runners to ever play this game. And honestly, I know he doesn't put up the numbers that we're all used to seeing. And people will say, you know, Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson and all the young bulls, Terry McLaurin.

But nobody run no routes like Devontae Adams, man. Can't nobody put him up and put him down like he can and create this kind of separation he can even steal, if given the right opportunities at his age now. So much respect to him. I'm excited to see what he's going to do alongside Tuka Nakua. Yeah. They should be nice. They should be real nice.

I think so, too. And Matthew Stafford can still flat-out throw it. He can throw it. Jesus Christ, he got a strong arm. What do you think the Rams' ceiling is this year, Ocho? Ooh. With that defense, man. That defense, that front man. That defense.

That front four. Be good. That D-end and that young bull. I can't remember. The verse is the D-end. The D-end verse. He got a D-tackle. I think he out of Florida State. Yeah.

Ain't no telling. Maybe. If they can protect Florida State. Yeah. Hey, ain't no telling. I, maybe, maybe, maybe. If they can protect, if they can protect, uh, Stafford.

Mm-hmm. I like Williams running the football. Right. I like him. I like him a lot. Can they protect Stafford? Because we know he can make all the throws. I'd say nine,

10 win season. Yeah, I can see 10. I can see 10. Yeah. I can see ten. I can see ten. I can see ten in that division. Ten and six, eleven and five. Nah, let me take that back. Ten and seven, eleven and six.

Six, right. Yeah, something around that. Something around that. Bryce Young was confused why Panthers media members weren't in the building Ocho let's take a look at this yep all good

all good what was the occasion for the y'all didn't feel like coming into work today it was we were invited that's not our call we were invited yeah we'd like to be there oh yeah

there's a half mile perimeter around the facility. They won't let us near you guys. Oh, man. Cold world. Wait, is he doing that Zoom or something? Yes. What, they had an incident out there or something? No, I think the team can allow media members or they can't.

You see Tampa had this situation where media members were allowed to be there. In this situation, they weren't. Okay, okay, okay. So I guess it just varies. Right, right, right. Depending on the place. Team to team. That sucks.

Ocho, an addict returns stolen money five years later. It says, about five and a half years ago, I did something very terrible to you. I stole your wallet out of your purse, and I was a drug addict, wanted to take money from whoever I could get my next high. I didn't even know you.

I picked pocket of you and took it right out of your purse. I took the Best Buy card, had it, whatever the cash was in it, I threw the wallet in the trash can next to the store. Not long after that, Atlanta treatment facility got sober. Been sober four years now and just recently returned, just recently found your best buy card and the bad old stuff. I looked up your name and found that you were at work. And so I hear, I am. Can't imagine the frustration and despair I put you through not to mention the time and effort looking for getting all your new stuff it is an unforgivable for what I've done but I would like to pay you a small amount of money for it I'll also never hurt

some I've also would also never hurt someone and that way ever again and will continue to live an honest life I wish you nothing but happiness, prosperity, and good health. How much is that? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Boy, that's a good old gesture, man. What's my interest on that thing? Oh, what, four-year interest? Yeah, a little interest.

I mean, the gold rate's about, stock market returned about 8% last year. On average, it turns about 4.5% to 5%. So let's just split the difference. Let's say 6% over five years, Ash.

Probably take on enough faulting. Yeah, you should have said that two, should have said 180, 200. Yeah. I mean, listen,

the fact that even- And it could be because you had to go get all the new stuff, had to go to the DMV, you know what I'm saying, had to replace all the credit200. Yeah. Listen, the fact that he had to go get all the new stuff, had to go to the DMV, had to replace all the credit cards. Yeah. I mean, just the fact that he was even willing to do this. That's also nice. You know, it's also nice.

That's a great gesture, bro. Changing your life around. That's dope. That's live. That's live. I like that. The greatest apology is change behavior. To say that he was sorry for doing this and not change, you're not sorry.

Right. He said he's been sober for over four years. Say he's not that person that he once was back then. That's all you can ask for. The greatest apology is change behavior. All right, Ocho. Now, it's time for our final segment of the evening.

It's time for Q&A. No chill will said should rings define greatness or impact bigger than hardware. No. No. Because rings are a collective team accomplishment, not individual no we use rings

and other things to define greatness greatness can be defined without rings barry bond doesn't have a ring he's great carl malone charles barkley doesn't have rings they're great yeah dan marino warren moon don't have rings they're great bruce smith doesn't have a ring he's great but we're trying to get est ocho now we have to bring that and other things into play but i don't believe rings should be the only determining factor whether someone is great or not. Absolutely not. We finally agree on something. Underscore 39 2Q. Who had better career? Who was a better player, Westbrook or Kyrie?

I mean, both are still playing. I mean... Was an MVP. What All-Star? Well, how'd the All-Star shape up? How'd the All-NBA selections shape up? I think Westbrook and Kyrie. I think Westbrook has probably been the more All-Star games,

probably been first team All-NBA more. I think he had three or four seasons where he's averaged a triple-double. I would say Westbrook. I think Westbrook has had a better career. Nine-time both, nine-time All-Star. Russ. Russ is a nine-time All-Star. Russ.

Russ is a nine-time All-NBA selection. And he's a member of the 75th anniversary team, one of the 75 greatest players to ever play in the NBA. Yeah, Russ. Fins, New Jersey. Ocho, correct. We're New Jersey, Ocho correct. We're all human. We make mistakes. But problem none bigger than the Giants letting Saquon Walt,

Dallas trading Luka, teams passing Shador. Oh, man. Well, it's not the fact that they let Saquon go. It was the flippant behavior of the general manager. Now, you know, you hear things like they wanted that removed, but the NFL said no, blah, blah, blah. That's why teams don't want to do it. If you say we have creative control of what's been done there,

you shouldn't be able to usurp that because you know that's going to put me on a negative light. Right. And so that's why to put me on a negative light. Right. And so that's why teams don't want to do it. It's intrusive, it's invasive and no. Some things that are said, Ocho, should remain

behind closed doors. That should have never made the light of day. Yes, he said it, but I guarantee he wouldn't have said it if he thought it was going to be on hard knocks never made the light of day. Yes, he said it. But I guarantee he wouldn't have said it if he thought it was going to be on hard knocks for all the world to see. And it shouldn't have been.

It's about time. How about this here? Let's put cameras in the owners meeting. You don't want to do that. Let that be hard knocks. You don't want to do that. Why not?

Let's hear what's being said. They want the fans to hear what's being said by the general managers and owners and all that stuff. Head coaches. Owners meeting. When they meet with Roger Goodell. Let's put that in there. Ray Jan, if you

want that. Exactly. I didn't think you want that. Exactly. I didn't think so. Rugby, Millie Z Vlogs, Unc, you love, you got,

you got love in Harlem. Unc, tell a man we need your game card in there. Thank you, Harlem. I don't, you got to talk to Ocho

about that man stuff. I don't know nothing about man. What's a man card, Ocho? Man card. I'm going to get you one. I'm't know nothing about Madden. What's a Madden card, Ocho? Madden card. I'm going to get you one. I'm going to make sure we're going to get you one this year. What do you do?

Madden card. Like, you know, you're a legend. You beat it so they can play with you in the game. I ain't got no card? Nah. Hold on. I got to have something. I'm in the hall.

I got to have some kind of card. Nah, you ain't in there, man. I'm going to get you in there, though. Whatever. Hey, what the hell is wrong with my mic? PJP11 said, my 10-year-old nephew signed up for football this summer. I grew up with a basketball kid,

so I'm not really familiar with workout drills. As the two Hall of Fame pass catchers. What should I start as far as working with him? He wants to play wide receiver. Well, you got to test out his hand-eye coordination. Yeah. Line him up five yards, throw him the ball. As he catches it, back him up.

Then you have him go down there and try to catch the ball over his shoulder. You tell him to go down there, you tell him to break out. you tell him to break in. But the biggest thing, hand-eye coordination. He has to be able to catch the ball. He has to be able to track the ball.

And you'll know fairly early what's his hand-eye coordination look like. What you thinking, Ocho? Dude, you too, Ocho? Dude, YouTube, what? YouTube. It shows you everything you need to know, especially regardless of age. Four, five, six, seven.

Teenagers, high school, you know? And once you get a little advanced, they got something for that too real carter said uncle nocho which car game causes more fights uno spades spades spades that's without question because i'll be your face you know the answer to that spades oh oh oh you thought that was gonna won't no it ain Oh, you think you had another one. No, you didn't. Give me that.

Give me that. Give me, give me, give me, give me. Hey, boy, Spades, man, the Wright family? The Wright family. Here's what I'm going to do right here. I take that big jumper. That's your set book. It ain't going nowhere.

I don't want you to see it a whole while. Your whole while, because I knew you. You see what I mean? That's your set book right there. It ain't going nowhere. We't want you to say it a whole while Your whole while Cause I knew you You knew you did That's the set book right there It ain't going nowhere We'll go here What you got? Oh man

Boy, space game, man Oh yeah Oh yeah Ain't nothing like it Ain't nothing like it Especially out of Especially out of family function What?

Oh yeah Get a bunch of Oh yeah Get a bunch of I told him family function. What? Oh, yeah. What? Get a bunch of... Oh, yeah. Get a bunch of... I told him... I told... How many you been? You been four more

than what you had. Ha! Be with the four car. Ha! Get back. Hey. And don't get nobody who gonna talk to you

the whole game, too, while you're playing now. Talking trash the whole game. Or spades. I need me a good old spade or something. David D. Cruz, they're unking Ocho big love tonight, Cap. Can't wait to meet and request it if possible. Can I get a signed jersey?

Ocho ain't got no jerseys. Hey, I think I just broke my mic What you do? Man it just broke off the arm I'm holding it up The whole arm just broke Well you had the worst luck with the equipment God damn it Von Julio said Uncle Oio Long time listener here.

Been listening before early giveaways. Today is my wife's three year anniversary. Any way I can get a shout out, happy Mother's Day please. Absolutely, Von. Happy Mother's Day to the beautiful missus. Congratulations on three years. Happy Mother's Day. Now you gotta

do something very, very special. Three year anniversary and Mother's Day. Now, you got to do something very, very special. Three-year anniversary and Mother's Day. That means gift, flowers, and brunch. All that. You got to do all that.

All that. So, absolutely. So, thank you for your support. You and your wife. Wish you the best on your anniversary. Hopefully she has a very, very, very, very special Mother's Day. Let her know, Vaughn, how much you love her and how much you appreciate her.

And that you are who you are because she is who she is. Rugby Billy Vogue said, Which Super Bowl was the best and why was the most memorable game y'all played? The first Super Bowl. Ain't nothing like the first. We broke the NFC street. NFC had won 14 straight Super Bowls until we beat them in 19,

until we beat the Packers. 14 straight. And we were 11-point underdogs. Brett Favre was the MVP. They had just won the Super Bowl the year before. That mattered to us. We needed that. So that first Super Bowl was the best for me.

Most memorable game y'all played. Yeah. best for me um most memorable game y'all played i look i've had better games no look the game that i broke the record against kansas city ocho obviously you know i had 214 that game yeah But I don't think I played that well. I caught the ball well, but I didn't play overall as far as blocking total. Maybe the best game I played probably was either the Ravens in 96 or the Chargers in 96. Because it's like back to back. I went for like 12 for one 53 and three touchdowns. And I went for nine for one 68,

but it was, they were complete games. Right. So. But. Hmm. What I game against the saints. That was your memorable,

memorable game. Uh, they, matter of fact, the, the Chargers game and then the saints game. the Saints, that was your memorable game? Matter of fact, the Chargers game and then the Saints game, that was actually the next game. So I went 260 and went 190 back-to-back. Damn near 500 yards in just two games. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. And you let what you call break your record. Who? Chase. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's okay. That's okay. Listen, if there's anybody going to break a record, you know, that young boy that can do it.

Hey, he's going to break some moja, Ocho. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely, boy. Yeah, he's on his way to being one of them all-time greats. Real deal. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know me. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, and my partner, the Liberty City's legend.

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