Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Shedeur Sanders & Travis Hunter jerseys retired + Suns fire Mike Budenholzer

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Suns firing coach Mike Budenholzer after a disappointing season, Colorado retiring Shedeur Sanders & Travis Hunter's jersey num...bers, the Dolphins parting ways with Jalen Ramsey, and much more!04:52 - Suns fire Mike Budenholzer17:00 - OKC Thunder Rookie hazing19:45 - Colorado retiring Shedeur Sanders & Travis Hunter jersey numbers33:46 - Cam Ward confirms No. 1 pick in NFL Draft?36:00 - Dolphins parting ways with Jalen Ramsey40:10 - HS Baseball Players facing charges for prank1:01:00 - Q&Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:48 And now I get back to my boring old day job. Head over to your nearest Boost Mobile store and make the most out of your tax refund. Oh, Joe. Ocho. Yo. Phoenix Sun 5, Boone holds them. Yeah. The Suns became the third team in NBA history to start the season 8-1 or better and miss the playoffs. They joined the 1970 Detroit Pistons and the 2001-02 Milwaukee Bucks. KD is looking to lead the Suns.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Ocho, who should be held accountable for the Suns' failures? But you look at before KD got there, were the Suns playing well? Were they failing before KD got there? Prior to he got there, what day? They was in the NBA finals. NBA finals when? They lost to 21. They lost to the Bucs.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And the NBA finals. And then they lost in the what? They beat the Clippers one year. That was the year they went to the finals. The next year they beat the Lakers and then they lose to the Suns. I mean, the Nuggets. They lost to Luka. To Dallas?
Starting point is 00:05:24 They were the number one seed that ended up losing to Luka. To Dallas? They were the number one seed that ended up losing to Luka. You know what? When it comes down to it, I'm assuming you can. Some of the blame does go on the players. Some of the blame can go on Kevin Durant. I'm not sure how much of it you can put on one individual player when collectively, obviously, there is a group of five that have to play and have to gel together.
Starting point is 00:05:44 You think, obviously, when you have these super teams where Bradley Beal and Devin Booker and Kevin Durant coming together, you expect the results to obviously show on the court. Obviously, the match racing, it didn't work. The relationship between him and Buden, how do you say the coach's name? Budenhoser. Budenhoser. Obviously, things didn't work, especially the way it started out. It started out really good. Obviously, 8 didn't work, especially the way it started out. It started out really good, obviously 8-1,
Starting point is 00:06:09 but not making the playoffs or playing, for that matter. I mean, it's horrible. Everybody has to be held accountable. Obviously, most of the criticism and the critiquing will go to the superstar players, especially one of the greatest scorers of all time. So I guess he can take that criticism. Obviously, them not making the playoffs, he would be a part of the time. So I guess he can take that criticism. Obviously, them not making the playoffs, he would be a part of the problem
Starting point is 00:06:28 if he wasn't part of the goddamn solution for that matter. I mean, this is the fourth coach in four years. They fired Monte Williams. They fired the Lakers coach. Vogel. Vogel. Vogel. They fired Vogel they fired Bud
Starting point is 00:06:46 they fired Bud they're about to be on their fourth coaches now Bud got three more years at 10 million Vogel had several years at like 8 million and I know it has
Starting point is 00:07:02 tons of money but you gotta might have tons of money, but you got to stay the course a little longer than a year. Yeah, but that's the problem. When it comes to owners, obviously, in life, in life, the way they fix things, most of the time,
Starting point is 00:07:20 when you see a pattern like this, where you keep firing coach after coach after coach after coach, it's sometimes you just throw money at it and you think it fixed the problem. That's how it works in the business world. When it comes to the sports world, you throw your money at it and then you allow it time to manifest. You let it marinate for a little bit until it can gel, until it all works out. I believe all, I think the only player that's going to be there is Devin Booker. He's the player that started there.
Starting point is 00:07:49 I think KD's going to be gone. Bradley Beal's going to be gone. Bradley Beal is a little bit more tougher than KD for the simple fact Bradley Beal has no trade clause. So he has to sign off on where you're going to send it yeah kd you know they're going to be a lot of teams but you got to replace what you gave up yeah you gave up a bunch of first round picks and players well you you're saying replace you won't you will never get the value of what you got for kd but you can't get something yeah well you got to get you what you got to
Starting point is 00:08:21 refill the coffers up you got to get draft capital back. Right. It's tough, man. It's tough. Mm-hmm. Because KD played for all. Now, he came half the year with money. They fired money after the season. Hired Vogel.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Fired Vogel. Hired Budenhoser. Fired him. Now they're about to be on their fourth coach, but KD won't be there up under him. I think Book stays. I think Book is the only piece that stays. They're going to try to move, but that's what happens.
Starting point is 00:08:54 People just think it's more to building a team than putting three guys that can put the ball in the basket. Right. And that's what everybody say. Just, oh, oh, KD, oh, Book, man. KD going to give you 27? Book going to give you 27? Bradley Beal going to give you 27? Okay, that's what everybody say. Just, oh, oh, KD. Oh, man, KD going to give you 27. Book going to give you 27. Bradley Bill going to give you 27.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Okay, that's fine, well and good. Until they don't do that. Yeah. Because they don't fit. The pieces don't fit, old Joe. Right. And, you know, when you think about it, obviously, you say those names.
Starting point is 00:09:20 You say those names and understanding what they can do. You know, being able to score at all three levels, put the ball on the floor, catch and shoot, pop and shoot, whatever it may be. I'm thinking, well, hell,
Starting point is 00:09:31 man, they finna be, boy, they gonna be, they gonna be animals. It'll be the same thing if you put Chase, Jefferson, and Tyreek all on the same team.
Starting point is 00:09:39 You got one ball. One ball. Hey, listen, just the thought of that. Yeah. Just the thought of that. Strike up the band. And see, you look at the Patriots, the pieces always fit. One guy got a lot of, mostly the catches,
Starting point is 00:10:00 and then everybody fit in after that. Right. Look, you get KD, who's KD. He's an MVP, finals MVP, four-time scoring champ. Right. Okay, he really doesn't need the ball. Mm-mm. Bradley, Bill, and Booker, they need the ball.
Starting point is 00:10:15 But what they needed, see, they put, they shifted Book to the point. He can play it, but Book's a two. He don't need to be initiating the offense. If you look at Book, he had his best years. He had CP3. CP3 was a facilitator. CP3 knew how to get everybody where they wanted the ball, where they needed the ball to be the most impactful.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Right. But when you have all this, you got $150 million in payroll with three guys. Oh, Joe, something got to go. Yeah. You got, you got, Hey, you got this big fancy house.
Starting point is 00:10:50 You buy a big fancy house and you on a budget. Well, guess what? Be like, Oh, Shannon sharp. I had nothing but a TV and then the bed in the bedroom. Come to the house.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Hey, you'll be sitting on the floor. Like Indian style. That's all I got. But that's what I had. That's, that's all I had. I overextended myself. I got atin' That's what I had That's all I had I overextended myself I got a house That was outside
Starting point is 00:11:09 Of my budget Right So It wasn't no sense Of me going more Over budget And putting furniture A whole bunch of
Starting point is 00:11:15 Furniture in there I got a bed And I got a TV That's it Let me tell you How long ago This been though Cho
Starting point is 00:11:20 I know you didn't Know this But Mr. Bishy Used to make TVs I remember that. I had a Mitsubishi. Joe did. Got a Mitsubishi.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Yep. I ain't heard that in a long time, either. It was a tube TV. I ain't had the money to put no... With the knobs. TVs that went on the wall were $10,000, $15,000, $20,000, baby. I said, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Put this thing up on a little, put this thing up on a chair. I can see. Because, you know, we growing up, we put it on a chair, phone, but we had a little TV. Or you had the big floor model. That's what they call the floor models. Yeah, we put our TVs, obviously, at Grandma's place, we had the crates. Remember the crates?
Starting point is 00:12:04 The crates that you came in? Yeah, yeah. Milk's place. We had the crates. Remember the crates? Yeah, yeah. Milk crates. Yeah, milk crates. Yeah, we put all right on the crates. Oh, you had a floor model TV, Ocho. Yeah. Floor model TV. Oh, that was big.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah, but it had no sound. The little one had the sound. See how we do that, Ocho? See how we did that right there? Give us all one more floor model TV. Y'all remember Sony, Sylvania, Xena?
Starting point is 00:12:28 That was a big flow model TV. Hey, Xena. My grandma had the big Xena. RCA. Remember the RCA with the megaphone with the dog? Yeah. Hey, that's so bad. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I bet you don't remember the satellites, though. The big satellites in your yard. Yes. Yeah, my granddaddy had one of them big old satellites. Yes. I remember that like yesterday. Oh, that's so bad. Yeah, my granddaddy had one of them big old satellites. Yes. I remember that like yesterday.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Oh, that's so bad. But it is because, I mean, if you go back and look at the beginning of the year, the Suns were 20 to 1 odds to win the NBA title. They had better odds
Starting point is 00:12:56 than everybody, damn near everybody, except probably Boston. Boston. Yeah. Ah, that's crazy. Mm, mm, mm. Austin. Yeah. That's crazy. It's just, it's a bad, it's a, it's, I don't know. But where does KD go?
Starting point is 00:13:16 Miami. Because you know I'm always, you know I'm always saying Miami. Now, obviously they're going to have to give him. What are y'all going to give up to get him? I don't know. That's not my, that's up to Pat Riley and Mickey Harrison. I'm not sure what that looks like. But as long as we keep Bam, we're going to be all right, I think.
Starting point is 00:13:31 And finding some other pieces that we can get from somewhere else, we got to have some. But I think it would be great. It would be a great place. I think KD might have a house down here. I'm not sure. I've seen him down here numerous times. Man, you got that kind of money.
Starting point is 00:13:43 You got a house everywhere. Yeah. Can he do it quite well for himself? Yeah, yeah. I just listen. We need a star. We need to do what the Lakers do. Always find a way to pull one out our—
Starting point is 00:13:59 I was getting ready to curse. I'm not going to curse. Pull one out our hat. We need to do that. Our hat rally needs to do that. Have you seen the attendance at the games? It's not what it should be. First of all, they don't come
Starting point is 00:14:12 till late anyway. Y'all don't be there to talk. Look, I done been to Miami Heat games. I went for the championship game. And at the start of the game, I'm like, well, damn. Do y'all really know this is the NBA finals? Yeah, yeah, you right. You right. And remember, they were leaving in that game six before Ray hit the shot. They all have the arena empty.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah, and they tried to come running back in. Tried to come back in, nah. Mm-hmm. No, that ain't gonna happen. I'm trying to say, first of all, there are only a handful of teams that have the draft capital that they're going to need to get KD. And the question is, are they willing to break it up?
Starting point is 00:14:45 OKC has the capital. Who? OKC Thunder. They got like 13 first-round picks. Hey, can you imagine? Can you imagine SGA and Kevin Durant? Yeah. We said the same thing about Devin Booker and Kevin Durant.
Starting point is 00:14:58 OK, I see. There you go. We said that. There you go. We said the same thing about James Harden and Joel Embiid. Right. Can you imagine? Now James Harden has found the fountain of youth.
Starting point is 00:15:12 He's playing. He look like the James Harden of old. Yes. That he does. Kawhi's got those knees healthy. He looks phenomenal. I just. I don't think KD doesn't strike me as a guy that lives with regret or looks back on,
Starting point is 00:15:30 but probably maybe a better move would probably have been going to the Knicks. Hey, like you should have done the first time instead of going to Brooklyn? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Maybe going to the Knicks from the jump. I don't know. Oh, okay, okay. It's too late. It's too late now. Right. They might be an option. I don't know. Oh, okay, okay. It's too late. It's too late now.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Right. They might be an option. I don't know. I'm just saying. Instead of going to Brooklyn, maybe go to the Knicks. Maybe things would have been different. We'll never know. We'll never know.
Starting point is 00:15:56 We just know this has gone horribly wrong. There's no way around it. Look, we don't have to blame anybody, but we can say this unequivocally. This was terrible. Yeah, it was. It was. Thunder filled Dylan Jones' car with packing peanuts
Starting point is 00:16:19 because he failed his rookie duties keeping the team speaker charged. Ocho, check out the video. Yo, Dylan. Popcorn? Yeah. Eat it. Pack of peanuts.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Damn. Damn! Damn! Yo! Yo! Yo! Yo! That's it.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Make sure the speaker's charged. What is that? That came out of the... Packin' peanuts. You know, like when you go to UPS store and stuff like that. Oh, okay, okay. Hey, do your rookie duties, Rook.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Do your duties, bro. Hold on, girl. He better have a service crew Come detail And get that out of there He better be glad They ain't put that
Starting point is 00:17:12 I ain't doing that Better be glad They ain't put that Popcorn in there Yo Jody You know they used to Put popcorn in there Hey that
Starting point is 00:17:22 Boy that's gonna mess up Yo I'm not sure What type of interior He would've had If they had put popcorn That's another styrofoam thing that's cool that's not bad that's not hard to get out obviously it's um it's gonna be a pain he's not gonna do it himself obviously but still oh man they they got me by accident didn't know my windows were down when i was a rookie with the bangles i can't i don't know who did it still to this day but they took the fire extinguisher and they they did it on the outside not realizing my windows was down because it was nighttime they had snuck out there
Starting point is 00:17:55 they had snuck out the i forgot where we were at we were in kentucky at um training camp and they snuck outside and sprayed my whole car up, didn't realize my windows was down, my whole inside. They had the IS300, the little Lexus. Yeah. With the suede interior. Yeah. They done messed up all my interior, man.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Messing around with the fire extinguisher. Yeah. Oh, they get you. They take them rookie duties serious. Yeah, very, very, very, very serious. Donuts, breakfast sandwich, chicken to the plane. Yeah, when it's time to leave, when you travel, don't forget that Popeye's. The lineman, I never forget.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Don't forget that Popeye's. Popeye's. Hey, they send you all over the damn place. Got you bringing ribs and sweating up, sweating, hanging off. Hey, I don't think you'll make that mistake again, but it's almost over. Yeah. It's almost over. You only got like another month and a half until you run into the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:18:58 They seem to be over with. That'll be the end of that. Colorado is retiring Shador's number two and Travis Hunter's number 12. The school announced number two and 12 will officially be untouchable. The haters are out in full force. Many pointed out that Florida hasn't even tied Tebow, and he wants two national championships. Anna Heisman, I played with 15 at Texas Tech, nine at LSU,
Starting point is 00:19:25 two of the most historic quarterbacks in college football, and neither had their jersey retired. See? You basing what somebody else got based on what somebody else didn't get. Gets you in trouble every time. All the time.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Gets you in trouble every time. I can't worry about who's jersey. Hey, I did what I did. Savannah State was thought enough for me. They retired my jersey. I'm humble. I'm honored. But if they had, what was I going to do?
Starting point is 00:19:56 I mean, I'm just trying to figure out, okay. I don't, but why? Who cares, Ocho right right I mean listen they decided to retire what LSU does
Starting point is 00:20:12 at LSU what Florida does at Florida how did that impact Colorado it doesn't it doesn't at all but I know one thing
Starting point is 00:20:19 when you think about schools like LSU think about schools like Florida but more so LSU in that matter if they get to retire in jerseys they run out of jerseys they wouldn't have thinking about schools like LSU, thinking about schools like Florida, but more so LSU in that matter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:27 If they get to retire in jerseys. They run out of jerseys. They wouldn't have no jerseys. Right. They don't have no jerseys. Yes. When you think about it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Yes. I mean, I understand, you know, Savannah State only had a handful, you know, even Grambling. All the great players just came out of Grambling. You were tired of those. Come on, man. Some good ones.
Starting point is 00:20:50 It's so funny. A Southern, because, you know, back in the day, that's where all the black players came from. Came from. Because they were doing great. Before they were integrated, you had to go get a guy from black college football if that's what you. But I was like, bro, come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:04 It is what it is. Again i i will always say it now will always be my favorite line which is why i never compare any anything anything anything ever ever i've always been this way i've never compared myself to anyone yeah worry about what they're doing worry about what they're gonna do because comparison is a thief of joy if you live your life comparing it with other people have going on, boy, you're going to always be sad. You're always going to be mad because they're going to always, they're trying to always be someone
Starting point is 00:21:29 doing better than you. Always, no matter what, focus on yourself. Put them blinders on like a horse in a Kentucky Derby. Right. Just you, that shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:40 One lane. Stay out of other people's lane. Well, you see, sometimes when you start looking and then when it doesn't go, okay, that's how they feel about him over there. Right. Right. I don't know his situation over there. Clearly, they hold him in very high regard.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Yes, sir. Just because they hold him in high regard, oh, you automatically assume that they're supposed to hold you like that? No, baby, you don't have that relationship. It's different. It's very different. Jerry said Zach Martin, I think he's going to put Zach Martin in the ring of fame
Starting point is 00:22:18 next year. Huh? For what? I mean, there are a lot of great blue cowboys there are a lot of guys in the hall of fame right bob lilly randy white roger stallback it was more than a year before they got their number put up in the stadium okay that's jerry decision that's somebody else decision yeah somebody else might have to wait five ten fifteen years but you know anything when it come to jerry now you got to take whatever you Okay, that's Jerry's decision. That's somebody else's decision. Somebody else might have to wait five, 10, 15 years.
Starting point is 00:22:46 You know, anything when it comes to Jerry. Now you got to take whatever you say with a grain of salt in there. Right. Okay. Alabama ain't retired. Okay, I get it. Alabama, probably I don't think of anybody, nobody I can think of off the top of my head retired in Alabama.
Starting point is 00:23:00 They've had some great ones. Joe Namath. They had Joe Namath. They had Bart Starr they had Derek Thomas they've had some unbelievable players
Starting point is 00:23:11 come out of there hold on and that's another school now you get to retire some of the greats that came out of Alabama and they won't have no football team
Starting point is 00:23:17 or jerseys USC Notre Dame that's another school Ohio State Michigan what are they going to say oh dang he retired
Starting point is 00:23:25 Tom Brady, Jersey, and Michigan. Yeah, come on now. Look, Tom was good, but Tom wasn't like Tebow or like Cham in college. Right. Now, you get to the NFL, I mean,
Starting point is 00:23:42 if anybody comes to New England and asks for that number, if they even ask to take a picture of it, you should cut them on the spot. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming,
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Starting point is 00:27:53 I'm old enough to remember Isaac Curtis. That's why. Oh, yeah. Listen, Isaac changed the game, man. I know about Isaac. I watched the film. I watched the film. Downtown Freddie Brown.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Oh, man, what you know about downtown? Downtown, you from the crib, man. Yeah, but nobody went to the U. Yeah, Eddie Brown from down here. Yeah. And plus, now, Oklahoma with all them Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks. It is what it is. Each school is different.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Each school has a different criteria. My brother had his number two retired in South Carolina. The year after, I mean, he stopped, retired it. I don't know a whole lot of people that got the number. I think George Rogers, he won the Heisman Trophy. I think George has his retired. I don't know if –'m trying to thank anybody else. I don't know if Jadavion
Starting point is 00:28:49 might have his number retired. Clowning. Okay. I know joy see okay okay yeah
Starting point is 00:29:13 so they ain't got a whole lot nobody well I don't know but no like I mean sometimes people like when Deshaun went to Clemson Steve Fuller wore number four
Starting point is 00:29:32 that number was retired Deshaun reached out they pulled he gave him his blessing yes same thing with Peyton when he went to Denver 18 with Frank Chepuka had it reached out to his family they said it'd be on if he'd award boom put it back
Starting point is 00:29:49 so classic okay yeah yeah what I I don't know like I, I don't know. Like I said, I promise you, I'm going to go upstairs and I'm going to go to sleep. This time. Dope.
Starting point is 00:30:19 And later daytime. And I don't think about stuff like this, Ocho. I mean, I don't know why people get mad at stuff like this right no reason to no reason to at all i mean they're really they're really i mean they're really mad about this oh yeah absolutely absolutely because you you know why you know why we don't need to get into why but obviously they're again comparing these players, we feel they were much greater at these institutions and these entities when they played and their jerseys aren't retired. But why do you deserve to have, why does it matter? For one, you didn't like those individuals in the first place. And the same people complaining, the same people complaining during season and in season.
Starting point is 00:31:03 And you ain't even go to school there. How do you complain about somebody else school when you ain't go there there you go now i would like with them you know to give my number to somebody really good to make it look good put that too long when they put when they put that uh 84 no you can't get two two two is enough that ain't happening before I left, they retired number three. Me and my brother were three in high school. You couldn't get that number either. So, but no, two, no, that ain't happening. Why would you even want that?
Starting point is 00:31:36 Listen, if I was a youngster, like coming up, coming in right now, and, you know, going to Savannah State, you might want to let me wear that too. I'm not going to do it. Who? What you mean? What you mean you might want to not? What you talking about? Man listen, I'd make that too look better
Starting point is 00:31:58 the way, I mean listen, you were that boy. But I'm just saying a young me coming up, going to Savannah State during this time right now, well, you might want to have me because I'd be out there. 40 touchdowns in 39 games.
Starting point is 00:32:14 How many? 40. But, so, that's back then. I might get 60 with what I know now. Yeah. Oh, what? Man, I think, man, if I like, hold on. Man, if Noah were after my rookie year, I was like, man, Noah what I know now.
Starting point is 00:32:32 If I could go back to college, I'd average 25 touchdowns a season. Boy. It's amazing. If only, if only we knew what we knew now and were able to play again like we were in our prime, our younger days. Man, please. Plus, I think didn't Mahomes, they got the stadium or something named after Mahomes
Starting point is 00:32:52 at Texas Tech or something. They were his paraphrase, Adidas, Mahomes. Right. That makes sense. I know no one can complain and say anything about anything regarding Mahomes. Yeah, I don't care who came by the Texas team.
Starting point is 00:33:08 They're not better than Mahomes, boy. I don't know who came before him or after him, but he the greatest. Unless you're the Jesus of Nazareth, unless you're the Jesus of Nazareth and you don't win the Texas second-play quarterback, there will be no comparison. His logo is on the field, Ocho. I think they got a deal now. They got a deal with Adidas, right?
Starting point is 00:33:30 Okay, yeah. It's not a 10-year deal. Ocho, Travis Hunter says he would quit football if he can't play both sides. He said an NFL team told him he had to focus on wide receiver or quarterback and not play both. it would be game
Starting point is 00:33:45 over for him. It's never playing football again because I've been doing this my whole life, and I love being on the football field. I feel like I can dominate on each side of the ball, so I really enjoy doing it. Listen, he's made it clear. He's made it abundantly clear. Yep. If a team is willing to draft him, you understand what he wants. He't let there be any confusion. Don't let there be any confusion. He already told you what his wishes are. What he's always done. If you want a player that's going to
Starting point is 00:34:33 focus on one particular position, then draft one that can only focus on one particular position. I think he's going to give him... I don't think he's going to play both sides of the ball as much as he played it in college. No, probably not. I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think I think
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Starting point is 00:35:04 I think I think I think I think I think playing it. Oh, Joe, Cam Ward basically confirms that he's going to be drafted by the Titans while playing Fortnite. Chad asked him, who's your top four running backs in the league right now? He said Tony Pollard and TyJ Spears. Ward is clearly about Team Titan. Yeah, that was a good one. That was a good one. That was a good one.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Yeah, look, they've canceled their workouts for the next two, three, four drop top prospects. Yeah. So. They ain't give away. They ain't give away. Caleb Williams admits he cried at the games this season.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Losing Chicago was brutal. I'll be honest with you. I've never lost this much. When I got home, I got my bed. I just dropped tears. I was just so beat up mentally, spiritually. He later said,
Starting point is 00:35:54 I think the NFL game has become very friendly, and I don't necessarily want to be friends because I want to keep that competitive advantage. Ocho? Yeah. What do you think? I mean, I like it. Man, we've seen the cry in the stands After a USC game
Starting point is 00:36:07 On how much it meant to him Obviously they've won so much At USC He was used to winning And now coming to a structured environment At the highest level With the one percenters It's not as easy as it was in college
Starting point is 00:36:18 You're going to have your ups and downs Right Now the difference is What he has to understand Is most of the wins Are going to be in his hands He can be responsible For them winning all the time because he has the ball most of the time. So it's based on his decision making and what he decides to do with the ball.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Now, with a coach like Ben Johnson and having DJ Moore and the rest of that group collectively, you can do some great things because I think Caleb Williams is special. I think he's special. I do too. I agree with you, Joe. Huh? I agree. Oh yeah. He's special in some of the things that he can do,
Starting point is 00:36:49 you know, as a quarterback, he's, he's very gifted. And I think he has the right, right person in Ben Johnson and the rest of their staff to get the most out of, uh, out of him and the potential that he possesses.
Starting point is 00:37:01 So I don't think there will be that many tears this coming season. That's a very, very, very difficult division that the Bears are in. So we'll see what happens. Yes. Ocho, the Dolphins are looking to trade Jalen Ramsey. Chris Greer said he thinks it's time for them both to move on separately. Okay. I have no problem with that.
Starting point is 00:37:32 The only reason they want to move on is because of salary. They just want to get that money off their books. They think they slick. Well, what they should do, if they knew what they were doing, and I love Jalen Ramsey. Jalen Ramsey, to me, is still a top five, top five corner in this NFL, especially when it comes to playing man-to-man, bump and run, off, whatever it may be. Very, very adequate and still good at what he does.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I think he should make a move to safety. I think it would be dope, especially going into the back end. I think the McCourty did it as well. The McCourty started out as corners, and then as they got into their 30s, they went to the safety position. I think it can be a very viable option on another team somewhere else playing the safety position. I don't know. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:38:14 Charles Woodson, Rod Woodson, Aeneas Williams. Yes. All those were started out at corner and eventually moving to safety. I mean, look, they signed Tyreek. And it worked out for a while, but I don't know. I'm still not believing that they potentially might move him on draft night, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:38:32 He had one down. I get it, but I think, Ocho, I think it's kind of the drama that comes along with Tyreek. Yeah. You drafted Minkah Fitzpatrick. You traded him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Miami Tunsil. You traded him. Yes, sir. You're looking to move on, potentially, with Jalen Ramsey. Mm-hmm. I mean, Vince is one of the best safeties in the league.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Tunsil's one of the best left tackles in the league. You can use both of them right now you could where did Tulsa go he's not in Houston no more now he just went to Washington oh that's a good one
Starting point is 00:39:13 that's a good move yeah that's a good move Mike Gesicki is now in Cincinnati. He's up there with Joey B. Catching passes. I'm confused. I don't really know what the Dolphins are doing. I have no
Starting point is 00:39:35 idea either because I also saw the quote earlier to the write-up about if a team came to us with two first-round picks, we'll consider moving Tyreek Hill. I saw that one. And then right after that, I saw the Jalen Ramsey news as well. And so, okay, I'm like, what are we doing? Are we trying to compete? Are we trying to do anything in the AFC East? Or are we just trying to give it to Buffalo? Are we just trying to give it to Buffalo
Starting point is 00:40:01 each and every year? So obviously what I see going on now is it's going to be years and years and years before we can rebuild. And I'm saying we because I'm from Miami. Years and years before we can rebuild and collectively get a team, whether it be through the draft, whether it be through offseason acquisitions that can compete with the Buffalo Bills. So obviously all over again. So it goes New England dominating the AFCs for a very long time. Now all of a sudden it's going to be the Buffalo Bills. So obviously, all over again, so it goes New England dominating the AFCs for a very long time. Now all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:40:27 it's going to be the Buffalo Bills dominating the AFCs for a very long time. When is it going to be our turn? And this is coming from a Dolphin fan since 1968. When is it going to be our turn? It ain't going to be our turn this year, that's for damn sure. Nah, it's just showing.
Starting point is 00:40:44 So wait, not the way they moving. Yeah, I don't know. And, you know, I think Terran Armstead, didn't he just retire? Y'all left tackle, he was injured last year. I think he just retired.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And what's the other, what's the other left tackle? Oh, that's the one from the Cowboys. Oh, you talking about Tyron Smith? Yeah, he's retiring too, ain't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:06 He signed a ceremonial contract, I think, tomorrow. Yeah. Okay. But I think Tyron Armstead, I think he retired. Oh, man. That ain't good. It's not getting better. No, it's not looking good for you guys.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Ocho, high school baseball player who peed in the opponent's water jug is now facing 15 counts of battery. It is then believed that the 15 players drank the pee-tainted water. This has led to a Rio Rancho player to be reported to juvenile probation and parole with law enforcement officials believing there is cause to charge the boy
Starting point is 00:41:43 with 15 counts of battery, one for each who drank the tainted water. The players facing charges saying it simply meant that, bro, see? Now, see, no. This is all they're playing. It's just a prank, Ocho. You know, kids being kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, the pranks have gotten very extensive, especially this day and age.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Stop playing. People don't. Oh, Joe. Everybody don't play the same. I know. You say it all the time. People don't play the same. They don't.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Somebody see. Especially something like that. I can tell you right now there's a good chance he don't look like us. Oh, absolutely not. Not playing like that. There's certain things you can hear based on games that are being played and you can hear what the person did and you know it's not us you know that because we don't play like that that's not the kind of plan we that's what see ocho and people wonder why you don't play
Starting point is 00:42:39 that's why i don't play because you see because see you know i, Ocho? You do a little something, they go to the extreme. Right. The best way to do that is just don't play. You don't have to worry about it. Right. Man, somebody get hurt. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I know one thing about you. You don't play by that money. I don't care nobody that money. He did that. Boy, look here. But see, it would have been easy back then because when I was growing up, guys drank behind each other all the time. It ain't like it is now.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Everybody got their own water bottle. Everybody got their own cup. It was nothing. But you, hey man, let me guess where you're at. Alright, here you go. And pass it. Now everybody got their own water bottle of their own, you know, got their name some of that. All right, here you go. And pass it. Now everybody got their own water bottle of their own, you know, got their name on it, they drank their special concoction, and everybody drank out of the cup and they throw it in the trash.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Man, people, y'all need to stop playing all the time. I see these touching somebody girl in the mall and doing all this other stuff and running up on people. Okay? Oh, yeah. With the cameras. Those are the content creators of the day. The content creators. Now the content creators, they go
Starting point is 00:43:47 a little overboard to create their content. So you never know how people are going to react. You never know. You got to be careful. That's why I don't know why people feel like to do stuff like that. I've never
Starting point is 00:44:03 No. I don never... No. I don't know. And when I think about it, when you think about it, like, in hindsight, when I see it and think about, wait a minute, you kind of peed in the water bottle
Starting point is 00:44:16 and mixed it with water. Yeah, there was a guy that did that. He got, like, years. He did this at work. And he got, like, 15 years, I think. Not enough time. Right. And, you know, that's the same thing if you
Starting point is 00:44:26 ever would have no man i don't want to i'm often going left field with it but don't worry about it for me i mean in order for for like i said oh joe we had a group it was me burns dude named uh alan all the rest his soul calling roscoe. Yeah. House and foot. It was five of us. Mm-hmm. Okay. We had, you know, but I was like, man,
Starting point is 00:44:52 this stuff is getting out of hand. I said, hey, bro, let's go ahead and end this. So we ended it. But I got to, for me, Ocho, I got to know you. Don't just be,
Starting point is 00:45:01 oh, man, let's go pray. Come on, man. First of all, I'm a granddad. Right. Two times now. I ain't got time to be playing no foolies,
Starting point is 00:45:10 no childish games. Mm-hmm. They be playing all this stuff. I mean, that ain't, come on. I get it,
Starting point is 00:45:19 though, Joe. Dropping, putting water on somebody, you know. Right. And loosening the salt or the pepper shaker. Okay, that's one thing. Bro, you peeing somebody water and they drank it
Starting point is 00:45:30 and you talking about that's a joke? Yeah, yeah. And speaking of that, you know, you ain't never, hey, listen, I don't mean to go in left field. I'm just thinking about it, right? Yeah. You ain't never, like, and then, you know, and then it, like, it surprised you and it hits you and you
Starting point is 00:45:46 taste it like no like no no no you know what i'm talking about yeah i was trying to give you context clues without really saying it because i don't want to i don't i don't want us to get flagged but you know what i'm talking about i call it i call it i call it the arnold palmer i don't call it that yeah there are a few women you meet like that and it's a mixture of both fluids. No? No. You don't ever taste it? I sure don't.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Okay, I'm just asking. Okay, I'm just asking. Ocho, the incident was filmed by his friends and uploaded to Snapchat. You see? We don't play like that.
Starting point is 00:46:28 We don't play like that. You know it's not us. Nah. Nah. We don't play like that. There needs to be a limit on the jokes. Like I said, my grandfather
Starting point is 00:46:41 wasn't like that. And I think me growing up around grown folks, so-and-so, that, you know what I'm saying? Like, my grandfather be like, okay,
Starting point is 00:46:51 we played, but it wasn't no playing in the house. My grandfather didn't play that. No. It wasn't no playing in the house. It wasn't no running. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:46:59 hell, it was only a thousand square foot, so you wouldn't run it, but so far. Hey, you have to be laughing hey it run out the door boy stop slamming that screen door yeah yeah you run out the whole show and you miss writing you think you
Starting point is 00:47:15 will hit the door and you hit the screen and you push the screen out oh lord have mercy man the whooping you finna get there boy what I remember them days close my god damn door letting in all them god damn flies man the whooping you finna get there boy what i remember them days but all my goddamn dope letting in all them goddamn flies yep running up my electricity what are you talking about what the electricity got to do with the dope being open
Starting point is 00:47:38 but all those things and oh joe all those things that they said that we took for granted yeah but we didn't have those centuries we had a fan and it had we had that box we had that box fan
Starting point is 00:47:51 Ocho I don't know if they still make them but the fan we had you get it at Walmart the iron blade they had the iron blades I don't know do they still make fans
Starting point is 00:48:00 with iron blades cause now they got plastic blades but with the blades it broke off and it'd be dancing so we had to put a big uh uh uh a cinder block only to keep it from dancing because because three blades is over two it was unbalanced yeah yeah they still make them they still make them but close the door you know do all this but when you start
Starting point is 00:48:26 paying for stuff my brother used to say all the time I leave the door open leave this open he said man and then one day he said
Starting point is 00:48:32 I ain't gonna say nothing he said when you get your own place you'll see you'll understand and Unc you don't understand until you have kids
Starting point is 00:48:39 Unc you don't understand the things your grandma and your granddad used to tell you back in the days or your mom used to say back in the days when you were used to say Back in the days
Starting point is 00:48:45 When you were younger And it doesn't resonate to you Until you have kids Then you get a better understanding Oh this is why You always used to say that Oh this is why Hey
Starting point is 00:48:54 Bro We had to go in the refrigerator We had to already know What we was going to get You couldn't open the refrigerator And be looking And sit there waiting Boy close that fridge
Starting point is 00:49:04 It wasn't like the refrigerator and be looking. And sit there waiting. Boy, close that refrigerator. It wasn't like unless you wanted some baking soda. The one thing I know is going to be in that refrigerator is baking soda. Every time. Whether it's empty or not. It might not be. Some tea. Some tea. And you couldn't drink that. Only my grandfather and grandmother could drink the tea. I don't know why the hell you make it.
Starting point is 00:49:23 So you got all these kids in here, and they can't drink no tea. Tea just for y'all two. But just open the refrigerator and just be looking. My kids be in the You don't know you went to the refrigerator for something. You know in the head you want it. Now all of a sudden you like you had the grocery out, you just walking up, you just
Starting point is 00:49:39 looking. Oh, it was a good day. There was a day though, Joe. Yeah, it was. there was a day though joe yeah it was there was a day but hey this dude i don't know your name bro if this is true that you peed in this bottle yeah that's okay Hey. Hey. See, that's too much. See, because see, that's the thing, Ocho. That's why, hey.
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Starting point is 00:53:57 You see? Now somebody got to try to one-up a prank. You did this, Ochoa. I got to do that. I got to get you back. I got to extend it. I got to try to one-up a prank. Oh, yeah. You did this, Ocho. I got to do that. I got to get you back. I got to extend it. I got to keep it going.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I got to get you back. Delete that. Delete that. Just delete that right there. All right, Ocho. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Y'all donated. He said, can the fellas get some Big 3 advice? What advice you want, bro? He said Big 3. Huh? He talking about basketball? I know he want no one of those big three. I mean, you trying to play in the big three?
Starting point is 00:54:50 You should have... You got to be an NBA player, don't you? No? I guess. Yeah, I mean... Are there people, are there casual... Are there civilians that play on the big three teams? Or is everybody retired NBA players?
Starting point is 00:55:02 Everybody played in the NBA. I think that's the rule. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bosque, the Tempest, three things in life is certain. Death taxes
Starting point is 00:55:11 in 84, 85 always going to be open. That's true. That's fact. League of the Five. Everybody love, everybody love, everybody night.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Hey, somebody said I got on a stripper jersey. You got a fishnet on that fishnet? Nah, this Tyron Taylor brand. Oh, is it? Yeah, Diallo. That was funny.
Starting point is 00:55:34 You know, Tyron Taylor got a nice, really dope brand. Good stuff, man. Nice casual stuff. Yeah, yeah. Astro said Ice Cube, Inner Tube, Delta Blues. Legos Empire. Yeah. Yeah. Astro said, Ice Cube, Inner Tube, Delta Blues. Legos in fire. Legos in fire. The Great Brow said,
Starting point is 00:55:50 the Nuggets got rid of their coach and GM instead of the best player, instead of their best player. At least the Nuggets did, did that right. Go Broncos. Yeah. Look,
Starting point is 00:56:03 sometimes, sometimes you can, look, they went the nba finals and for whatever reason deandre ayton and monty williams could not get along yeah for whatever reasons i don't know but it seemed maybe it was uh uh da his motor didn't one run hot all the time or as well as Monty was thinking. But for whatever reason, they had a nice team. You had a big. You had D-Book. You had Chris Paul facilitating.
Starting point is 00:56:37 You had a nice. Hey, you have Mikael Bridges that could defend, could knock down shots. You had Cameron Johnson. You had a nice backup and campaign. And they just blew it up. And where's DeAndre Aiden at now?
Starting point is 00:56:55 Portland. Dab Smith said Katie DeDenver makes the most sense since Jokic needs an all-star. We got Jamal Murray.'s an all-star. We got Jamal Murray. Not an all-star. I mean, not an all-star. But he's an all-star caliber player.
Starting point is 00:57:14 But he's a goddamn all-star. I think the thing is what makes them, look, they gave up all their defense. No KCP, no Bruce Brown, guys that could defend and do all the dirty work. Now you got guys that want to score. You know, I mean, as a defense, who you got to play deep? That's not Yoker's thing. That's not Murray's thing. That's not MPJ, Michael Porter Jr. That's not what he's known for.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Gordon is a defender. But, I mean, he's a big-body guy. But I'm just trying to figure, where are you guys that are going to defend? They gave all that up. I don't see KD going to Denver. I don't know if they have the draft picks. I mean, who are you going to get? Who are you going to give up? You going to get Murray? They're not going to give you Murray.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Right. I mean, you got to go somewhere that somebody have draft compensation to give you. Because, yeah, you want a few good players, but you want that draft pick. You want that draft capital. You got to restock what you gave up. Brea Carter says,
Starting point is 00:58:29 I feel like they should skip the ads especially when we get a show this late. This show started at 1 a.m. How you think the show started? Because of the ads. You know, there are people here. There are producers. Ocho got a producer
Starting point is 00:58:45 I got a producer we got graphics we got editors we got social media team they don't work because they like 84 and 85 they work for money
Starting point is 00:58:55 yeah I don't think I don't think people understand that they don't understand that I mean when y'all watch the games how y'all think think about
Starting point is 00:59:02 the Super Bowl how many commercials does Super Bowl have how many sports how many name the sporting event that you've seen that don't run any ads as a matter of fact tell me the event that you've seen on television that haven't run ads I can only think of one the Masters that time when they uh they was everybody was boycotting because they didn't uh admit a a woman into the thing and they ran the commercial free But I just want y'all to tell me, so what are we supposed to do?
Starting point is 00:59:30 You're right. Come on, man. I just care. I mean, Chad, I just want y'all tell us a way that we're able to do this pay the 15 people that we have that works on just nightcap alone.
Starting point is 00:59:52 When you say, what do you need a producer for? That lets me know, you know, nothing about television, which is why we have ads. But I'm just saying, tell me your favorite program, your favorite TV show. Tell me the one that you seen it in its entirety. And they played, no, they had no commercials.
Starting point is 01:00:13 They've all, all my favorites have commercials. Good times. Sam for this son, all in the family, small wonder, punky Brewster. I could keep going.
Starting point is 01:00:23 15. They all have commercials. Y'all do realize that an hour of programming, when you see an hour of programming, the show is actually only 32 minutes long. The other 28 minutes are commercials. Commercials, yeah. The bills got to be paid, huh?
Starting point is 01:00:40 The bills got to be paid. The bills are paid because of the commercials. Yeah. We did because of the commercials. Yeah. We did start with zero commercials. We, and we was basically, and I was basically playing people out of my pocket. Oh, speaking of, I owe you, I forgot I owe you too.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I'm glad you said that. But I've stopped, I look. Yes, the first zero, that's the whole point. The whole point. Listen, we're not a nonprofit people.
Starting point is 01:01:15 It requires money to do this. It does. I mean, I don't, I don't know really, really want to tell people. So I don't, I don't know really, really what to tell people. So I'm sorry, guys,
Starting point is 01:01:30 we got, we got to have commercials and, uh, hopefully we can get some more. Uh, Casey Taylor, yo, uh,
Starting point is 01:01:39 is there a story behind how grinding all my life became the intro for club Shay Shay. Also, we've got baby, the rock or my homes are in intro for Club Shay Shay. Also, Weezy, El Baby, The Rock, or Mahomes are in the future lineup. The Rock, yes.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I can try to get Mahomes. I can't guarantee it. I think I can get Weezy. Yeah. I think I can get Wheezy. Rocky's going to be a little bit more difficult because, you know, between the movies and all the
Starting point is 01:02:12 stuff that he has going on, basically you're going to have to fly to him. I'm going to have to fly to Hawaii or one of the 15 places that he calls home. That's a simple call. Simple call. Right here. Simple call. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Hey,
Starting point is 01:02:27 fam. Unc, I saw my other Unc Sterling yesterday. He was cool as always. We had a good time. Oh, must be down there at Myrtle Beach. Was it Myrtle Beach? I think it was Myrtle Beach. Because they normally have a tournament after
Starting point is 01:02:43 the Masters, the Monday after the Masters. They normally have a tournament down there. All right, Doc. I appreciate that. PC said, love from Toronto, Canada. Almost 3 a.m. here, but I'm rocking with you guys. Random question. What do you do when you're low on motivation or life gets overwhelming?
Starting point is 01:03:01 I.e., how do you manage tough emotions since you're both athletes? Compartmentalized? Mm-hmm. I.e., how do you manage tough emotions since you're both athletes? Compartmentalized? Mm-hmm. I got a job to do. Let me do this job. And then once the job is over, I go think about how I need to get done what I needed to get done. Whatever those emotions are. If I'm dealing with something personal in my life, if I'm dealing with kids or somebody, whatever the case may be, the job's got to get done.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Only people, Ocho, only people that work a nine to five have work-life balance. When you run your company, there is no work-life balance because you're always on the clock because you're responsible for what comes out. Everything. So I don't get that luxury like, oh, somebody else will figure it out. No, it doesn't work like that. Now, if you want work-life balance, have at it. I got no problem.
Starting point is 01:03:59 So I don't want y'all to come in here throwing shade at people to work 9 to 5. No, you work nine to five to fulfill somebody else's dreams but in this situation no joe everybody's gonna go through something yeah something always but i can't stop i got a job to do i can't i couldn't call it the broncos or the ravens i can't call it couldn't call it cbs or fox the Ravens. I couldn't call it CBS or Fox or ESPN. I can do that job because I don't think in the two hours that it requires me to do my job, I don't really think there's much I can do about it, especially from where I am. That's just me.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Everybody deals with situations how they choose to, but this is how I choose to deal with mine. I'm going to do what I need to do, and then I'm going to take care of what I need to take care of, to each his own. You know, the first half of this question, too, I never understood how people lack motivation in general. I never understood that part, especially when there's a... Well, you're not doing something that you like if you like motivation.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Yeah, that just... I never understood that. Never. The smallest goal, short-term, long-term, whatever it may be, to accomplish anything in life, you got to be motivated to do it. You got to be. You got to be motivated about something. Something got to get you going. And you shouldn't have to rely on other people doing it for you to do it.
Starting point is 01:05:26 You shouldn't have to rely on your friends to get up and go to the gym. What are you passionate about? Because if you're passionate about something, when you're passionate about Ocho, you need very little motivation. What makes you jump out of bed? That's the question. Because when you're passionate about something,
Starting point is 01:05:48 oh, you're going to put your all into it. Hey, everything. And you're going to be really good at it. Everything. Listen, when I'm motivated, whatever it is I'm locked in on,
Starting point is 01:05:58 it becomes my purpose. Yes. It becomes my purpose. It's almost as if I'm living for just that specific thing whatever it may be at that time that has me motivated right man i don't play i don't i don't play i don't worry about that i you know what you know what intentional means when you're intentional when you do something man you worked man. You worked all your life.
Starting point is 01:06:25 We worked all our life to get in this position. Now, I'm supposed to relax now. Shit. All right. I don't... I've always been one of those guys, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:06:36 No matter the goal, no matter what I accomplish, what's the next goal to accomplish? Mm-hmm. What can I, I don't, I don't stand on the mountain like,
Starting point is 01:06:49 yes, yes, I might get to the top, but I'm going to look at, don't look on the rise and then see if there's another summit that I can scale. I'm, I'm just a mode.
Starting point is 01:07:00 I'm a very motivated and driven person. I've always, I always, I've always been that way. Yes, sir. And so I don't know why people be surprised when they see me have success when you know how motivated I am. I'm all in on stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:15 I don't – this is my focus. And it's one thing to be motivated, but you also put the work in. Oh, Joe, think about how motivated you were to do for the bingles or the CW you can't be that motivated for yourself that's what I don't give to people
Starting point is 01:07:38 people show up and need people's jobs and don't miss a day for 10 years, 15 years but after they do something for themselves it's like job and don't miss a day for 10 years, 15 years. But after you do something for yourself, it's like... See? You see, I like that you just went there. Now you're leading me right into my next thing. Now you see why I'm enjoying myself?
Starting point is 01:07:56 You see why I'm doing stuff for myself right now? I like that. I like that. So now you get... I want you to do something for me. Do something for me. I am. I got you. Remember I told you in June, Baltimore show, I'm going to pay you live get to do something for me. Huh? Do something for me. I am. I got you.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Remember I told you in June, Baltimore show, I'm going to pay you live and personally in front of everybody. 50s, you want it. What you want? 100s, 50s, or 20s.
Starting point is 01:08:13 I got to wait till then? That ain't too far. That's right behind the corner. No. I mean, Uncle Sam. Who? Uncle Sam.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Touch your boy up today. The only Sam I know is Cook. That would be important talking about Uncle Sam, won't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what you get, Uncle Sam. Guys, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap
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