Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Shedeur Sanders visits the Steelers; Belichick regrets NOT drafting Lamar Jackson.

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top NFL stories of the week, including Shedeur Sanders’s visit with the Steelers before the NFL Draft, Bill Belichick admitting regrets about skipping drafting Lamar Jackson in the NFL Draft, & much more!04:16 - Shedeur Sanders visits with Steelers15:40 - Belichick admits skipping Lamar Jackson in the draft34:00 - Kyler Murray wants to run the ball more(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Steelers was great. I understand why they win so much, why Mike Tomlin is the way he is. He resembles my dad a little bit. They have the same principles. Shador reportedly does not want to be taken top three per NBC. I believe ideally he would like to go to New Orleans. I believe that's where he would really like to go. Of all places, New Orleans?

Yep. Can you explain why he would want to go to New Orleans? Just curious. You look at the receiver core they got. Chris Olave. Chris Olave. 22, what's the name? What's the name?

The speed? Rasheed, no. Rasheed, yes. Yes. Yes. I said it right? Yes. Yes. Yes. I said it right? Yes.

Yeah. Hey, that young bull can run, boy. You hear me? Yep. Yeah, he can run. Juwan Johnson. I think that's the tight end. Alvin Kamara is still there.

Ooh, that's nice. That's nice. Okay, I'll tell you. Now you're cooking. Now you're making sense you're making sense to me he's not going to be there the Saints pick what?

nine he's not going to be that nine but here's the thing once he gets past the top three nobody needs a quarterback he's not getting past the top three Ocho Jacksonville is not going to take a quarterback.

Tennessee is a quarterback. The Giants need a quarterback. Tennessee take a Cam Ward. Tennessee has canceled. They canceled Shador. They canceled Travis Hunter. What does that tell you? They canceled the visit.

They reached out to the agency and said, we're going to respectfully decline. Hopefully you guys understand. What does that tell you? Who are they taking? They're taking Cam Ward. And what happens if they pull a belly flop and take Abdul Carter? Listen, you know how the NFL works.

They have you thinking one thing and they do another. Let me ask you a question. Does Abdul Carter make them better right now? Or does a quarterback makes them? Remember, we just talked about what do you need in that division? Quarterback. Yeah, absolutely. Lawrence Stroud, you said you believe Anthony Richardson is going to be better. Okay, you're right. You're right. But listen, you know what? I look at Abdul Carter and I see him similar to that of a Von Miller, similar to that of a Micah Parsons.

Being able to change and impact the game tremendously, a play right now type of player. That's a good one, because I'm not talking about just know any type of player. I see Abdul Carter as a transcending talent, a generational talent similar to the two players that I just named. But Cam Ward, you're right. You're right. You can't go against that. I believe they canceled all visits.

Okay. Excuse me. Bless you. It's hard for me to believe, Ocho, that you're going to take a guy with the first overall pick and you don't have an individual meeting with him. Right. You're right.

Now, there might be a situation on down the line, somebody going to first round, and they're like, I didn't even meet with these guys. But you talk about a top three pick and you don't meet with them? Okay, you're right. Listen, but I just – I'm not saying it can't happen. Right.

But the likelihood – because guess what? Ocho, you know the first pick in the draft gets $40 million to $45 million fully guaranteed. His contract is fully guaranteed the first four years. It's fully guaranteed. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Listen, I mean, listen, I'm wishing both of those young bulls luck obviously um whether they

get Abdul Carter whether they get Cam Ward Cam Ward is going to be a tremendous tremendous talent you know being able to carry carry over what he was able to do at UM and come into a program and not revitalizing them offensively and they they almost look like the U of O from the early 2000s. So I'm sure he's going to do his due diligence in trying to revive the Tennessee Titans and some of the mistakes they've had to deal with, with brother Will Levis and Malik Willis and some of those guys. It's been a miracle. Malik Levis doesn't look competent in Green Bay.

He looks competent in Green Bay. He doesn't look very good. When Jordan Love was out, he was balling. Yes. He look competent in Green Bay. He look very good. When Jordan Love was out, when Jordan Love was out, he was balling. Yes. He was balling. But listen,

it's easy to ball when you got Reed and Hicks and Watson and Romeo Dubs and all those dudes around you. So, I like it.

Tennessee had the first pick. Cleveland, the Giants, the Patriots, Jacksonville, Vegas, Jets, Carolina, New Orleans, Chicago, San Fran, Dallas. We know the top three teams could use a quarterback. Yes, sir. It seems Cleveland is leaning towards Travis or Abdul Carter.

The question is, the Giants really controls it. What does the Giants do at three? They need a quarterback. They don't have a choice. They don't have a choice. And not a quarterback to come in and play right now, a quarterback to sit behind Russell Wilson and James Winston and Danny Vito and learn the game. You need a quarterback to sit behind Russell Wilson and James Winston and Danny Vito and learn the game.

You need a quarterback for the future. You have two quarterbacks on one-year deals. You need a quarterback for the foreseeable future. Look, I've given Jackson, look, I've given Will Levis. Will Levis had Calvin Ridley

and he had DeHart. And he had number 85. I can't even pronounce his last name. They need a quarterback. Right. Damn. So I can see that. I can see them taking a quarterback,

have him learn for a year with Russ. Russ did a one-year deal. I like it. Yeah. The Giants are going to be the key. Yeah. The Giants are going to be the key. You know what's funny?

Is it funny? You just mentioned the draft order. Ain't no telling what's going to happen the day of the draft. Ain't no telling. There might be a player that's someone that's picking seven, eight, or nine, and they sneak up and make sure they grab the actual individual I want, and it changes up everything on who and who goes where. True.

That's possible. That's very possible. You never know. We've seen that happen. Yeah. But it's going to be interesting. I think for me, what are the odds? What are the odds?

What's DraftKings giving us on Tennessee taking Cam Ward? They got the odds out already? Oh, yeah. Hell, yeah. Wait, when is the draft? What day? I mean, yeah. Hell, yeah. Wait, when is the draft? What day? I mean, April what? 24th. Okay, we still got two weeks. Okay.

They don't have it out yet? I was going to say, well, it's kind of early. I'm thinking that, uh, considering they see everybody done cancel those workouts, they're probably not going to even give you no odds. Probably minus 2,000. Does anybody have odds out?

Draft Kings, y'all wanted to talk about it. Y'all need to put some odds out. I'll chat like odds. Bro, you're joking here? What's up what what you're talking to you it's come on down here to miami boy i got plenty of room for you now hey you see if he buying tvs he talking about what type of car should i get should i get a mclaren i would just think about it i would just think about it you know mclaren right just think about it. I would just think about it. You know, McLaren right here. Think about paying me though, huh?

No, I'm going to pay you. I told you I'm going to pay you. The money ain't the problem. The money ain't the problem. I'm going to pay you. Cam Ward being the first quarterback selected is minus 20,000. Jesus. Thank you. Thank you.

You'd be a fool to take that. Right. So, we shall see in a couple of weeks. Yeah. But I think the key is at three Ocho I think because I think Cleveland I think Cleveland is going to take one of those defenders

what Abdul or Travis yep because you know what I can put Travis at wide receiver and pair him with Jerry Judy that's nasty and have some packages for him at DB. Yep. Can you imagine

Denzel Ward on one side and Greg Newsome and Travis coming in at the nickel on certain man. Put Newsome in the slot. Let Trav

go outside. That's slot. Let Trav. Go outside. Go outside, yeah. That's nasty. I like that. I like that combination. I like that combination. So it's going to be we shall see.

We shall see. I think the key is that the Giants at three. New England not taking a quarterback. Jacksonville's not taking a at three. New England not taking a quarterback. Jacksonville's not taking a quarterback. New England's not taking a quarterback. They just took a quarterback at three. And they really like this kid. Brayman has been abundantly clear.

One of the reasons he took the job, you know, they always say that because of the quarterback. No, it was a head coaching job, and they gave you a lot of money. That's why he took the job. But, hey, it sounds good at the time. Hey, I'm going to rock with it. Right. My dog, my homie want his shine, boy.

Man, I swear. I need to get you a podcast, come on. Come on, come on. I need to get you a podcast. What can you do? Can you do anything? Can you do anything? Can you do anything? Bro.

Nah, bro. My dog. What? I see you. I love you too, buddy. I love you too. I love you too. You did a good job today.

You ate all your farmer's dog. So yeah, so you have a little down here to buy me man you get a turkey i like chicken and turkey chicken in the turkey it's my favorite i give him some chicks at the dog park out here man you have that man he ain't fixed he can't go to no dog park. That's the whole point. Man, they take – You have my dog, they even put my dog down. Man, hell no. Bill Belichick admitted not drafting Lamar Jackson in 2018 was a major mistake. Belichick said took Sonny Michelle, one pick before Lamar was selected, with the 32nd pick in the overall draft.

I mean, that ain't the only, I mean, there have been plenty of mistakes. Hell, all 28 teams that didn't draft Randy Moss, that was a mistake too. It's hindsight. It's a magnificent sight. It's easy to say. But hold on. If they thought Lamar Jackson was going to be this, then it took him number one. It'd be magnificent sight. It's easy to say but hello if they thought Lamar Jackson was gonna be this then it took him number One would be number one

Yes Ocho, it's easy to look back. I should I should have put 500,000 to a million in Netflix. I should have put 500,000 to a million in Google It's easy to look back now. They threw the roof. Yeah. Yeah, never know that's why i call taking a chance of taking a gamble what about those stocks that we thought what about the blockbuster stock that i had can i sell your blockbuster right now joe what the hell or aol anybody interested in aol yeah come on man coach is easy i mean hindsight is a magnificent science because you have the luxury of knowing now what you didn't know then yeah well who could live their

life like that who could live their life like that we go back so you know what ocho think about it just think okay we go to a bigger school hey Hey, with our talent, we'd probably be a top 10 pick. We're going to get a quarter. Hey, now we got millions coming out. We'll get to a contract even sooner. We got more. Come on, man. You make yourself sick doing that.

As a scout and as a GM, how do you look at Lamar Jackson at Louisville and college and pass on that based on what you see? I don't care what the people say. I don't care what the media say about him being a running back. How do you pass on that, and pass on based on what you see. I don't care what the people say. I don't care what the media say about him being a running back. How do you pass on that, understanding how dynamic he can be, how dynamic he was? Because they didn't view him as a quarterback. Man, they wanted a man to work out as a wide receiver, Ocho.

What does that tell you? You had some prominent GMs that drafted great, historically great players, said, I see him as a wide receiver. Remember, they wanted Tim Tebow to work out at tight end so you can understand why i mean it's just like the guy that took yokich in the second round if they knew that then it took yokich in the first overall pick if you know he's gonna be a three-time mvp yeah but i'm just, you have an eye for football. I have an eye for football. I could see how dynamic he was in college. I can see how the shift in the game and which way it was headed.

Right. Okay, this is what I need. But I did say, I thought the Ravens should take him. What pick did the Ravens, because the Ravens had two first-round picks. Yeah. I thought, I just knew the Ravens were going to take him with their first, first-round pick. I said, oh, perfect.

The Ravens are perfect. Yeah. Yeah. And then when they pass, I'm like, oh, shucks. Hey, you win some, you lose some. Who was the 25th pick? Who did they take? Okay, tight end.

They took a tight end. He had some good years for the Broncos. I think he's still playing. He was at – no, he's in New England, isn't he? Who that? Hayden Hurst. Oh, okay, okay. But – He might be a free agent.

Okay. But, Ocho, that's the thing. Right. When you don't – when you can't see, like, oh, he can't play. I'm like, bro. And my thing was, I'm like, bro, somebody threw for all them yards. Somebody, y'all make it seem like the man rushed for 3,000 yards. The man passed for 3,000.

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I just knew, I knew, I said the Ravens, I think the Ravens are going to take him. I said that would be a good pick. They're in the right situation. What? Stop. I got some bad-ass kids today. Okay. That's why I'm getting you a brother, bro. What's

Tidy saying? Where's Tidy at? Oh, there you go. Yes. What, they was in there arguing? No, he turned stuff off the box. And they're arguing. They've been fighting

over cloth the whole night get it so I called a lady today so I'm gonna get I'm gonna get I'm gonna get another one you don't get another one another one of these not this one no No, not him. How do you think they're going to be accepting of a new dog? They're going to be great. They're going to be great. Are you going to get another male? Yes.

I've only had male dogs. We've only had male dogs. In my family, we've only had male dogs. All this going back to my grandfather had hunting dogs riley and skimp uh to us having joe boy and and homer and champ only hold on now you've had teddy and titus how are you so sure they're going to be accepting of a new male dog coming in i'm the pack leader I determined how everything goes okay okay okay I like that yes yes yeah I bought no I had for at one point time I had I had Tarzan and Taz, and I had Titan and Tonka. So I had four at one time.

Right. And then I had three. I had an Akita named Samson, but we called him Bo. And I had Taz and Tarzan. Where are all these dogs at, man? Well, I got these two right here. I'm getting another one probably in a month. He got papers. He's all

vaccinated. He got a passport. I just talked to the lady. We're going to ride her money and then when she brings him over, I'll give her the rest of the money in cash. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. What kind of dog are we talking about? Another one of these, a palm. Whoa. Oh, hell. Oh, heck.

How much are we talking? How much it costs same 10 10 what yeah because you got oh joe he's coming from overseas hold on 10 what 10 bands so that's why i need that 5200 it's only 4800 so once i get my $5,200... Hold on. So you're paying $10,000 American dollars in this economy for a dog when you already... You just spent $21,000 on one bedroom set. That was my living room furniture.

Okay, living room. Man, people furnish your whole house for 10 bands. Hold on. Wait a minute. This is a different house. Hold on. Hold on. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. This is a different house. I'm doing all white. This is different.

This is a different type of fabric that comes all the way from Ethiopia. You can't get this white just anywhere. Oh, Lord have mercy. Huh? Then my rug is alpaca. I got alpaca rug. Yeah, this is different. All white.

I'm going to pack you in that same rug and throw your ass in there. Hey, listen. I could have got you a dog. I got a homeboy right now in Liberty City. Could have got you, what's that, a Pomeranian? Yes. Could have got you a Pomeranian, five-star Pomeranian for $200. See, and I'm going to beat the tariffs.

I don't want to buy, you know what I'm saying, because they try to put tariffs on everything. So you know what I'm saying? Cuz they tried putting tariffs on everything. So you don't know what I'm saying, Ocho? No, we got a 90 day suspension on the tariff, so we good right now. Well, we getting all that stuff before, you never know, you might change his mind. Yeah. So yeah, so I gotta get one from him cuz he and Titus don't realize how big he is.

So Titus be picking him up, walking around, because he pick him up by his shirt and be walking around with him. Yeah. Hey, but listen, listen, that's a whole lot of money for a dog, man. I'm just looking out for you. I've never heard of, I've heard the first time you spent 10 on that one and spending 10 on another one bro there's a dog that just sold for five million dollars no it's not yes it is google it i think it's a tibetan master that that story might not be real i doubt that's real oh sure the bloodlines go i mean the top of the bloodlines they go for 600 000 on average yeah i know i'm in the dogs oh me too you know i love dog too that's a bit massive it's huge you know I love dog to that it's a bit massive is huge you know it's

a big dog it's not too many of me in the States though I know because I mean the bloodlines I mean right when you do the top of the line bloodline but there's some you can find them oh okay okay I'm just saying you know 10,000 a little steep now for a dog and I got I mean fact that I can get you one for $200 that looks just like that. Look, I was about to buy me a car, but they talk about them tariffs. I ain't getting a car until 28. You've got a $10,000 dog, you're about to buy a car, and you're complaining because I'm going to go get a McLaren tomorrow. With $5,200 of my dollars, that's why I'm complaining.

If it's all your money, I don't give a damn about that. You're buying stuff with my money. Chad, what's wrong with this man? Time out. Time out. Listen, I'm not getting to McLaren with your money. That's not what I'm using. I got 50 of them jobs.

I got 50 of them jobs. World's most expensive dog. Breeder pays $5 dollars for a rare wolf dog That's part wild beast part pooch and eat three kilograms of raw meat daily. Here's its new owner five million a Wolf a wolf dog. Yes now go look up Tibetan Mastiff and get no pure bloodlines 600,000, million, 2 million. Top.

Even dogs that you see at the Westminster. Those dogs go on average for 5 to 10. Now they expensive. I know that. Them show dogs. That's a different ball game. Okay. The most expensive vet mastiff ever sold

is a red golden puppy named Big Splash. A guy by the name of Hong Dong which is Hong Dong in Chinese paid 1.5 million, 10 million in 2011 for a Chinese Hey, these are beautiful. They look like an oversized chow chow.

Chow chow. Dogs are expensive, bro. I wanted to get a B Shawn actually matter of fact I went to be Sean I went to Houston Texas Scott summer huh if y'all don't believe it you can call him up and ask I went out there they had one name JR he's the first B Shawn to win he's won again he's one with another B Shawn and he also won with a cumbersome spaniel named Stump. I went out there and looked at him. Man, that man told me what that thing was going to cost. Oh, no,

bro. I'm sorry I wasted your time. A Bichon Frise. Yes. How much? Like $30,000 and then they wanted to trade him because they wanted to put him in a show. $30,000? Yeah. And then he wanted the show.

Because the thing is, he's the trainer. He's the owner. As a matter of fact, y'all know I'm talking about Cal Ruggles was the owner. Go look up Cal Ruggles. Man.

Boy. Boy, stop. Ooh, but that's expensive way yeah but hey this I don't spend a whole lot of money on a whole lot of stuff but dogs I'm gonna make sure they have the best care I'm gonna make sure they have the best food I'm gonna make sure they have the best attention and they get sick hey like I said I'm always gonna give my dog at least a chance I'm gonna give them a week even if the vet tells me mr. shark I'm gonna give him a week right and I know it sets me back sometimes it cost me 15 20 bands

but I'm gonna give them a week I'm a if you can pull it through I'm gonna give you a chance right and then I just have to make it I have to make the tough decision right they're not gonna be able to pull it through I don't want them to suffer because at some point time it gets to a point where Ocho are you keeping him alive for you or you keeping him alive for him because he has no quality of life right well listen I listen I love that you love dogs I have I I hear the passion in your voice. But if you ever want to save some money, I got a homeboy named Dewberry in Liberty City right now. He's a booster.

He can get you anything. Oh, I got a homeboy, too. As a matter of fact, I just saw it. I said, man, what my damn pressure washer did I get you $200 for? He got some expensive ass cologne. I said of them cologne oh I won't that pressure watch it that you promised me hey no that's crazy 30,000 10,000 whoo that's that's jewelry that's you like you buy like you got your a like you got that rolex and you got them chrome hard jeans that you sitting on there smoking them cigars

how much a prayer hey chad chrome hard jeans 10 12 15 000 the belt 5 000 no yeah bull jive you know i'm a you know I'm a booster, man. A booster? I don't know what you are, but I'm just saying. Can I get my $5,200 so I can send this woman the money? I got you. I got you. No, you don't got me. Hold on. When you gonna get the dog? When you gonna get the dog so I can send the money over?

I got a wire to month half of it tomorrow. Oh, tomorrow? So you gonna send your half and then when the dog come, I'll give you the rest of it. What you mean mean my half? You got That man That man You go ahead and send your half

and when it come I'll give you my half All of it's my half You got my money This man This man, this man talking about buying a McLaren. This man talking about mandum ball. All kind of stuff. Got seven.

Y'all saw it. Seven is TV. Hey, hold on. Hey, listen. I'm in my winning season. Whistle round sound. I'm in my winning season, Unc. I told you 2025, I'm not playing.

Well, I want to win. I'm losing right now. Oh, you ain't losing. You just bought a $10,000 dog. How you losing? You was finna buy a car yesterday, but the tariffs made you stop. I wasn't buying. No, I was thinking about buying a car in 26.

I wasn't buying no car this year. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I just got the extended warranty. Oh, no. Okay, so are you. As a matter of fact, I'm going to push it all the way back to 28. I'm just going to get me just got to extend the warranty. Oh, no. Hey, so As a matter of fact, I'm gonna push it all the way back to 28 I'm just gonna get give me a two-year extended warranty my warranty or will be up in January 26 so I'm gonna get 26 27. I get me a new car in 28. Okay. Well, I'm gonna wait till 28 then to get it

No, you ain't gonna wait nothing. No If you can wait if you can wait that long go ahead. If you could die what I be throwing at you good luck. Chat y'all see this man? Oh

oh hey but that's funny yeah that's but that's funny. Yeah, that's funny. That's funny, boy. That's funny. No, I'm chilling, though. I ain't gonna buy nothing.

I ain't gonna buy nothing. I ain't gonna buy nothing. I'm chilling. I'm just glad to be in my new place, man. This thing look real. Now, I will give you the tour. I will give you the tour, but I don't know how to work the camera. Don't worry about it.

I'll tell you what, Ocho. If you don't give me my money i'm gonna come visit you and i'm gonna take me a duke on the alpaca no no don't do that hey bump you know how much i paid for that guess how much you're gonna play to get it clean nah nah i'm gonna drink me some chocolate milk and i'm gonna eat my three four apples hey listen you know you come to miami you know there's a whole lot of people you got to deal with. You mess around with me down here now. I'm talking about a complete blowout. All right, let's transition, get to some football. Kyler Murray says he wants to run the football more next season.

Let's take a listen to what Kyler had to say, Ocho. I mean, like the people out there, they're like, Kyler doesn't want to run or he wants to. Like, how do you dispel that? Because I just look at it as just part of the offense. Yeah, I actually, you know, conversations, and I don't want to get too scheme-based about it, but, like, I do feel like I have to run more next year.

You know, I'm open to running more next year just because it's such a weapon. You know, it's such a weapon. It's, you know, defense is, it's like when I hand the ball off, obviously I hand the ball off to James. So it's not like, you know, I hand the ball off to Trey. I hand, you know, we're a very good rushing team, which is a great thing. But when Lamar hands the ball off, everybody's like, oh, like, you know,

you take it, you can relax, you know. Josh hands the ball off. Ah, you know what I mean? So I think for us um part of the emphasis going into the next season is um conceptually on time i feel like i'm one of the best in the league i like that i like that now remember we had we uh there was some coach that played that said he didn't want to run now he he said, and he's right. The most dangerous player, the most dangerous is when he has the ball in his hands.

Lamar is the most dangerous when he has the ball in his hands. When you don't know what he's going to do. You pray he throws it. You pray Josh Allen throws it. You ain't trying to get, you're not trying to get, see any of those guys. Josh Allen, 6'6", 250. Lam see any of those guys. Josh Allen, six, six, two 50 Lamar Jackson. Oh man.

Ain't no telling. Yes. I like it. I like it. Cause when, when you think about what Kyler Murray is able to do, I think he's also become a quarterback that, you know, he's,

he's a dual threat. You know, you, you know, he can, he can play off script. He can pull the ball down and use his legs, but he's one of those quarterbacks who also wants to throw first.

He wants to hurt you with his arm first. And then if I have no choice, then I use my legs after. I think he wants to be seen and viewed in the same light as your Lamar Jacksons, as your Josh Allens, and the other dual threat quarterbacks around the NFL. I think that he hasn't had the team success that they have, being able to reach the playoffs consistently year in and year out. But I think allowing him to do that more and being able to use his legs a little bit more to help them out offensively would be

tremendous, you know, for Arizona. I agree. I agree. into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.