Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Soccercap, Bill Belichick can't get a job

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss Wednesday's Champions League action, reports that Bill Belichick wasn't widely considered for a new head coaching job and a never before told story about the legendary Katt Williams interview. 00:40 Ocho talks UEFA Champions League07:20 Robert Kraft reportedly warned Arthur Blank not to trust Bill Belichick42:50 Q and Ayyyyy #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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because we got a special. Yeah. Ocho, it's all you. My good people, we're going to talk about Champions League today. Obviously, you know, we had Arsenal, Bayern Munich,

Real Madrid, and Man City. I'm sure everybody, I'm sure everybody got all my soccer people in the chat. I know y'all watched the game tonight, just earlier this afternoon. We had a very, very good game. Obviously, we'll start with Bayern Munich and Arsenal. Bayern Munich wins 1-0 versus Arsenal. Obviously, soccer didn't play. I would love, I would love it. And I hate to say this, Saka and company, Martinelli and everybody else, didn't play the game that we think they should have played. Obviously, it's why they didn't win. Bayern Munich winning 1-0.

Finally, reaching the semifinals, which they haven't reached in the past four years. It was a great game for them. Obviously, for Arsenal, they still have the epl which they can win but they cannot bottle it i'm hoping they don't bother this year i want to see arteta and the gunners win and hoist that trophy this year obviously champions league is out for them they're out of it so byron goes through winning one nil but the game for me chat for me um you got we got to get you watching soccer because you missed a great one today. I watched it. I watched

the Real Madrid man send it. I thought Havlin had a couple of chances and some headers that hit the crossbar. Holland, okay. He had a great run at it. Those headers that he had Ocho, he came close. Yeah, he hit the crossbar.

I don't know what to do. That second to do the tip to that PK, they kicked it he hit the crossbar. But man, on the PK, I don't know what dude, that second dude attempted that PK, they kicked it right to the goalie. I could have kicked him in his ass. That was Bruno. I'm sorry, I could have kicked him. That was Bruno. I think he did it by accident. I think he was trying to hit it over in the corner.

He kicked it right to the guy. I know, he was trying. I'm sure he was trying to hit it. You got to pick a side. You either pick left, you pick right. You can't never go right down the middle. Right. And he approached it so goddamn...

I hate to say this. Yeah, you can't. Come on, Cho. He approached it so casual. That's how I know he was trying to place it. But instead of placing it, he kicked it right to the dude. And the dude just added like, okay, thanks. Yeah, and he got it right away.

Listen, the game, the first half was decent. You had a few chances from both sides. Yeah, yeah. But once Rodrigo scored for Real Madrid, once Rodrigo scored, it seemed like all the momentum went straight to Man City. Yeah. Straight to Man City, and they were putting pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure. And finally, De Bruyne scores.

And when he scores, it goes it goes into overtime extra time excuse me it goes into extra time and then obviously we go to penalties and we know how the PKs went Real Madrid winning

and God God dog it that last PK Ocho it barely freaked oh that man was close from Ruger it hit the pole

it hit the pole and went in but he had to make sure he listen the goalie can't get to that Listen The goalie can't get to that Yeah The goalie can't get to the corners

He guessed right Yeah he guessed right But he can't get to it He just couldn't get that far Yeah You listen You have to I went to the final

In Real Madrid Played Liverpool In Paris I have to get you I have to get you to a game To get you to understand It's one thing Watching from TV and not being in the atmosphere to understand the experience.

And you could tell by how fast I'm talking and messing up what I'm trying to say. Yeah. How passionate I am about the game. If I could just give you an atmosphere, you will understand how it puts all our sporting events. All our sporting events here in the States, even our biggest one, the Super Bowl, a regular game. And, it puts us to shame. I need some scoring, Ocho. This one nil, and then all that extra time. I'm like, okay, the game over. Hey, 90 minutes, the game over. Nah, we got 80 minutes of extra time. Yeah, but you got to understand the beautiful game.

It's just art. It's art. It's more than just running around. If you understand the game of soccer, if I can get you in the atmosphere, then I'll explain the game to you, and then you'll understand why it's so difficult to score. I understand. Matter of fact, Holland, in basketball terms, the equivalent of Holland, that would be who missed the headers, that would be like Giannis. Yeah. Powerful, straight downhill. Oh, yeah.

If he gets the ball, if he gets the break, oh, he's gone. You're not stopping him. Oh, yeah. You know, I mean, he just, dude, we gotta watch some more games. I like that. You know, I was on Paramount+.

I was simulcasting. Yeah. And, you know, so I was like, okay, I think this game is going to be a little more interesting. Yeah, it was. It was.

Irregulate, what you calling me? So now, okay, I was like, okay, extra time. Ain't nobody doing the extra time. I'm like, okay. That's what I like. PK, come on now.

PK, yeah. Yeah, PK is nerve-wracking. Very nerve-wracking. Especially for the playoffs. So Bayern Munich beats Arsenal 1-0. Advances 3-2 on the aggregate. Real Madrid beats Man City 4-3 on PKs. And here we go.

So you happy you got your soccer in? Yeah. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Don't give it to me one night now. Pause. Let's continue, let's continue Let's continue, obviously we have the semifinals Coming up, I think maybe in two weeks if I'm not mistaken

We can talk about, and then I'm going To the finals, I'm going to the finals So I'll do the finals From wherever I'm at in the world Okay And yeah, I like this, yeah Yeah, maybe we can get Thierry Maybe we can get theory on re.

Terry. Terry. Terry on re. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or Zinedine Zidane. We'll get somebody on here.

Hey, we can get Zidane. Yeah. I got everybody's number on my phone. You remember this? Let me know. But the time difference, that's the only thing. They six, seven hours ahead. Oh, all right.

Ocho. Robert Kraft, Mr. Kraft, owner of the New England Pagers, reportedly warned Falcons owner Arthur Blake not to trust Bill Belichick during the head coach interview. According to ESPN reports, Don Van Nata Jr., Seth Wickersham, and Jeremy Fowler, a conversation Mr. Kraus had with Mr. Blank was the main reason the Falcons passed on Coach Belichick as the head coach. And yet in 2024, the NFL season is starting. OTAs underway. And Coach Belichick remains unemployed through the NFL.

He did, or is being reported, he's signing with Omaha Productions, Peyton Manning's company, and he's going to do the draft special with P. Mack McAfee. But another quote from, another quote, another key quote from the article, Falcon executive were concerned about the staff Belichick would bring with him, including assistants who had worked with him in New England and struggled on their own. Josh McDaniel, Joe Judge, Jack Easterby, Matt Patricia. At one point, Mr. Blank asked Coach Belichick why his charge. Well. Why his his coaches, his assistant coaches had failed elsewhere. Coach Belichick replied that he thought they were better soldiers than generals. Oh, that's a good that's a good one. That's a good one.

What are your thoughts about what are your thoughts about what's being reported? Now, I will say this. Don Van Adder Jr., Seth Wickersham, and Jeremy Fowler, when Don Van Adder get on it, they don't miss. Yeah. They don't miss.

It's unfortunate. Obviously, Bill Belichick being one of the greatest coaches to ever coach in general is awesome. But again, in today's time, today's era, today's players, I don't think his coaching style, his coaching philosophy, it would resonate with the younger players and the younger generation. I just don't think so. I think that's why you see teams going into more of coach friendly. How do I say this the right way? Avoid that resonance with the younger.

The Jim Harbaugh's. The Harbaugh's, the like the Pete Carroll types, even though Pete Carroll is not there anymore. They're going with the young coaches, the younger coaches that can resonate with the players more. I don't think the Patriot way philosophy would even work in Atlanta. I don't think the players would respond to that. It would if you got Brady. Oh, now you got a Patrick Mahomes.

Yeah, exactly. As long as you have the quarterback in place to do it, I think it would work. But, you know, the whole wearing your pads on Wednesday, wearing your pads on Thursday, wearing your pads on Friday, that stuff, it ain't going to cut it. It ain't going to cut it. It's unfortunate that things ended this way between Belichick and Kraft. And I think Mr. Robert Kraft gave him so much control because they were so successful because they had the Tom Brady in place that let everything else flow smoothly. Everything went haywire once

Brady was gone and you couldn't just be as stern as you wanted to. Do you blame him? Look how much control Apple gave Steve Jobs because he didn't miss. Yeah. The iPhone,

the, what was that little thing? The little iPod. He didn't miss. Yeah. iPad. So one, two, three, four, five, six,

AFC Championship, AFC Championship, AFC Championship. Super Bowl. I think he earned the right to have that kind of control. Now, if the reports are true, I don't know why Mr. Kraft would ever say anything bad about Coach Belichick. You do realize the value of your franchise increased tenfold. Right. It's not that valuable without those rings.

Without those Super Bowls. I mean, but you have to understand, we don't know, we don't know publicly how their relationship ended. And obviously, if he's going to say anything like this, that made it end as good as we thought.

Ocho, let me ask you a question. You have a, let's just say you and Rel not together. Let's just say you and Rel. Y'all go y'all separate ways, but she makes... Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't even like

that hypothetical. But it got to resonate so the people will understand. Okay, okay, okay. Me and her went separate ways. She gone. Boom. Let's go. But in the process, you worth 500 million now. I sure am.

What you got to say bad about Ray? Oh, nothing. There it is. Nothing. Why would Mr. Kraft ever have to say anything considering what he had done for your organization? But you got to

think. You heard what you just said? So when we, we both played the game, we both played in the NFL. Yes. You got to update your resume, what? Oh yeah, for sure. Every year. So you speaking past tense on what Bill Belichick has done for Mr. Robert Kraft and that organization. Yes. So he's not worried about what you did in the past. What have you done for me lately? That same accountability is held for the head coach as well.

I understand that. So his comments are based on what he's done for me lately. And that's how he feels. So under that theory, so you and Real not together, what has she done for you lately? Well, she gave me some foreclosure.

So that's all I'm saying. For me. Right. That's a good one, though. I'm forever indebted. Now, I get it. You know, hey. Your girl said, boy, don't be a slave to loyalty.

Ooh. Come on, hey. Girl said, boy, don't be a slave to loyalty. Ooh, come on now. I just think for me in that situation, you'd help me so much. I ain't got nothing. You know what I'm going to say? I would rather not say anything. At all. As opposed to saying something negative. Right.

And then you can deduce by me not saying anything good or bad. You can take your own inference from that. Right. I don't know. But listen, I think Robert Kraft, even though he is the owner, he's human just like the rest of us. And if you gave him that power. I know.

I understand what you're saying, but I'm just saying he's human just like the rest of us. And the fact that he gave him that power and what you did those years, those 20 plus years when Tom Brady was there, it was beautiful. But I can only remember sometimes when you date women and things go wrong, they don't remember none of the good. Oh, but they remember that they remember the bad. They remember the bad, even if the good outweighs the bad. For some reason, they resonate with the bad more than the good. And I think Robert Kraft is feeling the same way based on the last, what, two, three years?

But I'm just trying to figure out, how you gonna say I'm an SOB and you got $50 million? How you gonna say I'm an SOB and you got a $10 million mansion and you got the vacation home in Vail? How you gonna say I was terrible?

Right. And I put you in a situation you would have never been had it not been for me. Yeah. Well, was it him or was it Tom Brady? Which one?

They go hand in hand. Yeah, that they do. That they do. I'm not even going to discredit. You're right about that. Oh, I got a question for you. Wait a minute. Sure.

Wait a minute. How about we still have Tom Brady and you take Bill Belichick out of the head coaching job and you just, you implement another head coach. Are the Patriots still the Patriots? Do they still win those Super Bowls?

Do they still win those AFC championships? I'm not going to say they don't. I don't, because I think Coach Belichick, what Coach Belichick was able to do. Defensively. Defensively. Defensively.

He could tell Tom, Tom, this is where you're vulnerable. And if this was me, if you came out in this set, this is how I would attack you. But Coach Belichick, what's my counter? Where would you be weak at? Right. If you know that it was really hard to trap Tom because he was ahead of you. Yeah. Because you're talking about the greatest,

the arguably one of the two or three greatest defensive minds. Minds, yeah. And you're talking about a quarterback that can process information like Big Blue. Right. So you fed him all that information. He knows where he's weak. He knows where you're strong. He knows where you're weak

and he can process it like that right I think it was a listen I'm not saying Michael Jackson wouldn't have had hits but would he have had the hits that he had early on without Quincy Jones

that's a good one Quincy Jones produced off the wall Quincy Jones produced bad, that's a good one. Because Quincy Jones produced Off the Wall. Quincy Jones produced Bad. I mean, excuse me, Thriller. So, McCartney. Are they the same? Leonard and McCartney? If they're not together?

Ah. You'll never know. Yeah, you'll never know. I mean, it's a good hypothetical though i mean because listen i would if i'm if i'm if i'm uh uh mr blank now i know mr blank he's one of the few owners that he's one of the few owners when you see you he'll hug you yeah he you know i'm from atlanta he's like hey when you're in a when you're in town let's go to lunch let's do this because i used to see him all the time right um um jogging um and so every time i run into him he's like he's one of those like hey how you doing

ask how your family doing you're doing a great job i see you from time to time um i wouldn't have been concerned the coaches coach bellocheck You know why? Because they do great when they're with him. Right. If you're not going to hire one of those guys to run your organization, why do you care who he hires? Because Josh McDaniel performed well when he was with Coach Belichick.

He's just the crap when he's with someone else. Matt Patricia did well when he was with Coach Belichick on the defensive side, not the offensive side. Joe Judge did a great job with the special teams. When they're

with him, it's that the failures seem to have occurred outside the purview of New England and Coach Belichick. Now, I don't know if you can fail as miserably as Josh McDaniels and get another job.

Yeah. He was awful in Denver. Now, this is the second time that he's gotten fired. Wait, wait, wait. He started 6-0 in Denver first now, or maybe 8-0. Yes, but he got fired halfway through his second season. Right, right, right, right, right. That's right.

For trying to do what happened in New England. New England, yeah. Okay. He turns, first of all, who you know get to turn down a head coaching job via fax and get another job? The indie job. Yes.

That's right, that's right. I forgot all about that. I forgot about that. And then he gets the job at Oakland and gets fired through the season halfway through another season. Damn. Doug Marone

resigned. He resigned a job in Buffalo and went and got a job in Jacksonville. Yeah. So for me, look, obviously there are a job in Jacksonville. Yeah. So for me, look, obviously there are a lot of moving pieces. And the coach and the owner

has a lot of responsibility. He's got to make sure he gets the right job, gets the right head coach, and if you're not giving him total control that he can work with the general manager. I just thought it would be very hard with Coach Belichick that he's been a general for so long. He's had

total control for two decades and now all of a sudden he doesn't have final say. That's hard, Ocho. That's hard. The only way it would have continued is you would have had to find that special piece

and that's the most difficult part for maybe 25, 27 NFL teams is finding that special piece where everything works. Once you have that special piece at the quarterback position, it makes everything else so much easier because all you have to do is build around that. Right. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.

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All the success lets me know what's capable. Yeah. I'm with you. Listen. I'm with you when you're right let me know what cable out there you notice though hey and it's being reported that the uh the kelsey's about to sign a hundred million dollar deal oh yeah you know what i was saying i was like hold on oberham productions yeah just signed a nine- deal with the ESPN.

Now, I don't know if you know how these deals work, but nine years, that's at least half a billion. I don't know what the numbers, but I'm saying half a billion. Yes, sir. PMAC reported got over 100 million. The Kelsey's are about to sign 100 million dollars. That's what's being reported. Yes, sir. I can't wait to see the white comedians that come out there and start talking bad about them. I can't wait to see the other white podcasters start talking bad about them

like they did us. They ain't gonna do that. Why not? Because they never do that. Hold on. No, that's a part of it. You shouldn't get in this business if you don't expect people to talk

negative about you. That's what we say in our community. So what you mean, that's a part of it, Ocho. Yeah, you right. But most of the time when it comes to stuff like that, when they are winning, it's more applauses as opposed to... Why?

I don't know. That's just... Why are they not going to attack them? That's the way they always been. My bad. Why? I know, know. That's just the way. Why are they not going to attack them? That's the way they always been. My bad. I know. Like you always ask me, you better at this than I am, Ocho. So I need you to tell me why. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure about that, sir. It's just the way the cookie crumbles. It's something that you really can't explain. It's just the way it is. And it's always been that way. As a matter of fact, it might be one or two that may disagree, but they don't make the noise that we make. You know, we make noise. We make noise noise. It's the difference when we like to display our displeasure with something.

As opposed to there may be one or two that, but they like to see each other winning. It's different. It's different. Hold on i'll look this up i think they said like 90 90 to 95 percent of the money that's in circulation has been printed since 2020 so what that tell you there's enough money for everybody everybody i had a great conversation with Cam and Cam and I we're gonna do some we he got some great ideas I had some great ideas I said bro let's get this thing let's work together

mm-hmm there's no money out here for everybody mm-hmm he's like you I'm for real bro yeah the ideas that you that you and I combined let's work it yeah let's work it. Yeah. Let's work it.

Let's do it. And the funny thing about it, the funny thing about it is our time is coming too. Oh, for sure. Listen, you... For sure. I'm telling you right now,

you might as well buckle up. You might as well buckle up. You might as well buckle up because our time is coming. It might be 90, it might be 100, it might be 150 million. But it's coming. And when it does, I need you to make sure you ignore everything coming your way.

And ignore everything coming your way. Man, look here. I take it from now. I take it from now. I take it from them. I got you. The last month, like, it took me, Ocho, honestly,

it took me, even doing that video that went viral, because I think we was in Jersey. Weren't we in Jersey? We was in Jersey. Yeah, I was in Jersey. The people that were,

Ocho, it was pouring rain. Yeah. And for the people to show up in the rain and the brain gives, Hey, I just, Hey, I just bought you a card.

I just want to say, I appreciate you for the women to like, we love you, blah, blah, blah. And it took me being out and to see, to go to other events and it,

and to have my sister say, Shannon, do you think what's possible, the way the success of Nightcap and Club Che Che and La Portia, you think that's possible if you got more haters than supporters? Is it possible?

Because I really never looked at it like that. Because I just looked at it as my own people attacking me when I had done nothing. And when I went back and look listened to what cat said cat said it cat said you about to be in another dimension i'm like man stop but he told me some other things that that that we didn't talk about on the pod. And I'm like, he's like, Shannon,

this is about to take off. He knew it. Oh yeah. He knew it. Oh yeah. I had no idea. I thought I'd get 15, 20 million views.

I was hoping. I was like, man, if I get 15, 20 million views, that's a band. Oh yeah. Oh,

Joe, we're about two million views. We're about one. We're about two million views. We're about one by two million views. Right. From being the most watched interview in the history of YouTube. Yeah. In three months. Hey. I thought he's one of the few guests that I've interviewed that I have a relationship with, so I call.

And I remember him having a conversation. And I say, I said, Cat, why everybody beating me up and ain't doing nothing? I said, you talk.

I said, I just gave you a platform. I provided a camera and a microphone. Right. He said, because they know you can't do anything. He said, that was just a brushback.

He said, if I come back. I said, nah, we don't want you to come back. I said, nah, hell nah, I can't. You ain't coming back. You ain't coming back. He said, that was a brushback. Right. He said, it's easy.

He said, it's easy to jump on you because they know you limited in with your response. And what you could do, right. He said, but he said, they know me. But. Ocho, man,

the love, man. I didn't know Ocho because, like I said, I was good. I think I was a pretty good football player. People told me love was in Denver. When I was in Denver in Baltimore, but Ocho,

the love that I get. Yeah. Man, I'm talking about security guard. Everybody's like, hey, can I call you up? Man, that cat with you, that Marshawn. Man, you an Ocho, man. Ocho crazy. Man, Ocho really think he can beat Holloway?

I said, yeah, unfortunately he can't. Man, I'm telling people stopping me. Hey, I'm walking my dog. People rolling out in the winter talking. Man, we love that. But Cat's like, hey. Cat was like, hey, we got a part.

Hey, I said, no, that's a cat. Let him wait a couple of years. Let him let it build up. But man, he's like, he's really, really, like I said, he's like a really great dude. He's a really humble dude. He really tries to do well. He helps a lot of people. Yeah.

And you know, he don't really talk about it. I heard the stories. He doesn't really talk about it. Nah. But there have been a lot of people that I've talked to. They're like, man, cat. Cat good it. Nah. But there have been a lot of people that I've talked to that like, man, cat, cat good people.

Yeah. But don't let that five foot five, 165, I ain't fool you. Yeah. Cause he will, oh man.

Yeah, he a fool. He a fool with that. He a fool with it. I think, I think you have a special coming out here for Netflix. Oh, I'm definitely going to be up. What is this special?

Isn't you? Oh, I'm definitely going to be there. I'm going to be front row and center. But it was great. But you know what, Ochoa? I tell people, look, understand that what cat did he kind of like club club shea shea was was good we did solid interviews right but like he said he put us in another rail oh yeah he took us to he took us to it's may 4th what the hell 4th, that's in two weeks.

Ain't it? No, she graduate that Friday. She graduate the following Friday. Shit, I might have to go to my daughter's graduation, be on Zoom. I can't miss Kat. Friday the 10th? Okay. Yeah. Oh, I got to see. Oh, yeah. I'm definitely going to be there. I'm definitely going to be there

for Kat. But that was unbelievable. And people, like I said, Ocho, people ask, like, do you know? And that's what everybody knows. Shannon, did you know? No! How could you possibly know, O know no how could you possibly know oh joe how could i possibly know in three months that thing will be doing 66 and a half million views how it's done over a hundred we're i think we're probably like out

a hundred and a hundred and ten million views on youtube alone right oh A billion impressions. It's done a billion impressions. How could you know something like that, Ocho? That's like, Tom, did you know you was going to win seven Super Bowls and go have the most passes? No. Hell no. You couldn't possibly know. You knew it was going to be some movement

though. It was going to be some movement. Ocho, Ocho, I remember getting up. Because because now mind you ocho you know i got all these i still got 20 minutes worth of questions mind you if i promise you i promise i put i don't like this but i put my right hand to god if we had started that camera the moment he touched the door, I guarantee you it would have done 100 million views. If you'd have asked me how many

views you think it'll do, I'd say it's going to do 100 million. It wouldn't have been better than that. The funny thing, I bet as soon as he hit the door, I bet he started talking right away and just energy from there. Immediately. Yeah. Oh, Joe. So he started talking. Hey, we got to go. Yeah. We got to go. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Joe. That's what, so he started talking. Hey, we got to go.

Yeah. We got to go. Yeah. Yeah, Cat wanted to hear him. If we had started the cameras, if we, if I'd have had, if we'd had the cameras from the time he got out of his vehicle to the time we got mic'd up, if we could like, he'd have had it, if we could have had him mic'd up in his vehicle and he got out

and he's in there and we going back and forth it would have done a hundred million views right I guarantee you it would have done a hundred million views

in a week yeah he was on one so I know people talking about well he was drinking I promise you this was before

he had one sip of portier. And listen, if you got that lick in your system, it makes everything even better. It would have done 100 million views. Yeah. Had I got to the other 20,

the other 20 minutes of questions, we'd have been at 75 right now. Right. But I was like, man, I knew, I was like, I was like, man, we got to be. I said, this thing got to be approaching three hours. So now.

Hey, remember you had to throw me out. Oh, no. Yeah. I said, hold on. I said, hold on. Wait a minute. So I remember what I said. No, I said, no, we uh nah I said nah we good

I said we good we good Cat so you know we talking to you like we good I said yeah we good so we get done with the interview CJ sitting behind me CJ always sits back in the corner

and I was like alright hey Cat Williams ladies and gentlemen. And I turned to look at CJ. CJ shaking his head. I said, what? Did I say something? Did he say something? He said, it's going to break the internet.

I said, really, CJ? He said, Shannon, he said, nothing is going to touch this in 24. I said, really? he said, nothing is going to touch this in 24. I said, really? I said, you think we're going to do 15? He said, we're going to do more than 15.

I said, more than 15, CJ? Because at that time, Steve Harvey was the most at about 8 million. Right. I said, more than Steve? He's like, we're going to do more than Steve in a day. Right. I say, more than Steve? He's like, we're going to do more than Steve in a day or two. I say, what? Dang. After the first date, I say, CJ, honestly,

how many do you think we're going to do? He says, Sean, they're going to do 50 million. Hmm. So now I'm trying to look to see who does 50 million interviews. Right. Basically, it's all Joe Rogan. Yeah, take it right down the rabbit hole. So now I'm trying to look to see who does 50 million interviews. Right. Basically, it's all Joe Rogan. Yeah, take it right down a rabbit hole.

CJ knew immediately because CJ's shaking his head. I'm thinking I done said something. I'm like, because I'm always mindful. Yeah, it's my platform, but I don't want YouTube to kick me off because now if I ain't got YouTube, what the hell are we going to go, Ocho? What am I going to do? Right. Because it's not like they kick off. I mean, with me, they're going to probably take both channels off.

So I'm like, CJ said, Shannon, you about to break the internet. I'm still with Larry. I was like, I don't know, CJ. I was like, excuse me. I'm like 15, 20 million. 15, 20 million. I'm good, Ocho. I was like, yo, boy, got me 20. I got me something. I'm like 15, 20 million. 15, 20 million. I'm good. I was like, yo boy, got me

something. I got me something. And I remember and we got like 120 something in the chat. I called 111, 114,000. And I remember calling CJ. I said, CJ, you see how many people in the chat watching it live? He's like,

I told you. Jordan called me. He's like, boss, boss bro you see all these people in the chat but i'm like ocho i promise you on everything i put this on my granny if we'd have had chad williams mic'd up in his truck and when he hit the, and the 15 minutes we talked before, it would have done 100 million views. Yeah. I get out of bed,

whatever I got, out of bed. I know he walked in there on fire, too. What? I know he walked in there on fire. So by that time, that's why I said, hey,

so now I'm doing this. That means let's roll. We got to get, because I'm already mic'd up. Right, because I'm already mic'd up. Right. So I'm already mic'd up. I'm like, oh, man. So I'm just like,

because, you know, he chill, but he on one. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I just let it go. I just let it go. Let's go. Hey, let's go.

Let's go. Because I knew, but still, Ocho, 15, 20 million views is a lot of views. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Ocho, you was a solid, hold on, you was a solid third for a minute, Ocho. Damn. You still top five. You still top five.

Okay, yeah. Listen, long as I'm in the running. I don't need to be number one. Long is somewhere in there. Long is somewhere in the area. But listen, I could come back. I could come back with some controversy and I could probably challenge Cat real quick, man.

Man, that dude, man. I said, man, hey, I can't thank him enough uh so uh I did you know I had uh I had a case I said in my case

on the 48 I said bro that's the least I could do but he don't want nothing I said can't bro mm-mm he said I'll tell y'all a fair what he told me but he don't want nothing. I said, can't, bro. He said, he said, I'll tell y'all a fair what he told me,

why he came when he came. Let me tell you, I've never told this story. Let me tell you the story how it happened. My agent, I went to my agent's office on a Friday. I'm getting off the elevator. A black lady's getting on. She said, hey, Shannon, I've never seen you here.

What are you doing here? I said, my attorney's here. My attorney's been here for like five, six years. She said, that's funny. I've never bumped into you. She said, today is my last day. I said, really? What are you going to do?

She said, I'm taking over Cat Williams' tour. I said, really? What are you going to do? She said, I'm taking over Cat Williams' tour. I said, really? She said, yeah. I said, I've been trying to get Cat for a year. I said, I done did him. I said, I done had my people reach out. That was a Friday. Right. The next Friday, Cat Williams

sitting in my chair. See how God works. God won't do it. Won't he my chair. See how God works. Tell me God won't do it. Won't he do it? See how God works. Won't he do it? I've never seen that lady before in my life. All the time.

She worked in there for years. I've been in my, how many times have I been to my agent's office? Never saw her. I'm getting off the elevator. She's about to get on. This was her very last day of work. Hmm. I said, I've been trying to get Kat.

I have been trying to get Kat for over a year. Next Friday, Kat Williams on the couch. That's live. That's live. That's live. And like he said, my life hasn't been the same since. Mm-hmm. And you know, sometimes

when I'm alone. In my room, I look at the wall. I thought you were finishing LL Cool J, man. Ocho, when I'm alone and I spend a lot of time alone, I'm in my... Come on now, take your time i ask i say god what did i do to deserve this favor because you've been so good to me you bought me from such a long wait and i'm very appreciative and thankful for everything that you've ever done but this what did i do to deserve this?

And I think back. A lot of times when people have wronged me in my life, I didn't retaliate. People have taken things from me. And I didn't retaliate. Women have taken things from me and I could have pressed charges and I did. And I just remember always my agent, I've had my same agent says, he said, Shannon, anytime, he said, anytime someone takes something from you, write it down. In the next contract we get, we'll make them pay it back. Hmm. And the next contract we get, we'll make them pay it back.

I think about all the times that I'm able to do for people. See, me, if I ever do something, I do so much anonymously. There's like, well, we won't. Shelly handles all that. No, Mr. Mr. Sharp says he doesn't want anybody to know what he's doing, how much he's giving you and for how long. And I think back to all the times that I've done it. Yeah.

I said, I guess this was God's reward. I guess this is what it was. Because I... Because this... This... This... Ocho, this? That cat? Right.

Ocho, that put us... That put us... Not only did it bring eyes To Club Shea Shea But Nightcap Bruh Hey, sometimes I shoot them a text Bruh, thank you

Yeah, it's out of the blue Out of the blue I say, bro, if you ever need anything A Super Bowl ticket, a jersey, hey, whatever, you good. Hey, whatever an event, sporting event you want to go to, can't win if they ain't got to buy no ticket. And I still don't. And I still don't. I still don't ticket. And I still don't. And I still don't. I still don't believe it.

I still don't. I still don't believe it. But boy, hey, if somebody try to tell me God ain't good. Listen, that man up there don't make no mistakes, man. He don't make no mistakes. Man, Ocho, bro, hey. But we

go here. Hell yeah. We go here. Man, Ocho, bro. Hey. But we gonna hear it. Hell yeah. We gonna hear it. It coming, Ocho. I feel it. Oh, yeah. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood,

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listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, Joe, it's time. Uh-uh. Oh, where is that? What you call him? Out the dark.

How long we been going? How long we been going? Oh, we good. Where at? Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. We got to get a couple of those in the ass. Couple of what? These, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. We got to get a couple of those. They're bad. Couple of what? These are...

Hold on. Nightcap, I need your help. I ran the Boston Marathon on Monday in 2 hours and 41 minutes and 13 seconds. Bro, you book it. I kissed a girl at mile 12. She's from Wesley College. She held up a kiss me sign, and I did.

I have to find her. Can we find this woman? Patterson. How are we going to find her? Yeah. He's supposed to be using Twitter. Okay, young lady, if you're watching Nightcap,

you held up a sign that said kiss me at mile 12. You were at mile station at mile 12. You held up a sign and the gentleman that kissed you he would like to get in contact with you. He's looking for you. You left an impression on him.

I don't know about anybody that knows that anytime you can run a marathon under three hours, you booking it. Oh yeah. You booking it. That's good pace. So, young lady,

if you were at the Boston Marathon and you had a sign that said, kiss me. Hey, you know what, Patterson? Now that I think about it, you might not have been the only one that kissed her. I mean, she got a sign up saying kiss her. Hey, it was like 25,000 people running. So, I...

Hey, that's that hurt. You ain't had to say that. You ain't had to say that. Don't crush Patterson's dreams like that. Well, he should that's that hurt. You ain't had to say that. You ain't had to say that. Don't crush Patterson's dreams like that. Well, he should have got a number. You can't stop him and get a number if you're running the marathon. You can't stop the chester. But that takes a split second.

Boom, and you gone. Hey, you lying to me. I dropped my chapstick. You lying to me. Boss lady. Hey, guys. I thought of your advice, Shannon, this week. Shannon, do you accompany me for a day-date note? I don't

hear no often, but I know we enjoy ourselves. Your birthday, perhaps? Or Ocho's? To shoot it myself. What'd they say? Oh, she asking me out? Oh, there you go. You got your little hot date there, boy.

I better not do that. Go ahead and go. You can go. No, no, no. My grandma said that I couldn't go meet no strangers. Frank the Tank, M. Trey said, I love what you guys are doing.

Keep up the good work. The bottles I ordered for my brother's birthday will be in tomorrow. Thank you for doing what you did to make sure we got them, bro. I do the best I can. I want to thank you guys for your patience. And I understand, look, I'm the least patient mofo I know. For you guys to show the patience, you got the patience,

Joe. So I thank you guys. I didn't expect the demand. We did not expect the demand, but we're doing, trust me, we're doing everything we possibly can to get you your bottles. What up, Ocho? Y'all got to sing off between Mariah Carey, Beyonce, Whitney Houston, or Fantasia. Who you got?

I got Whitney. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Who? Mariah Carey, Beyonce, Whitney, and Fantasia. Who you got? Whitney? I got Whitney first. I got Fantasia. And then I'm gonna put Jennifer Hudson.

And then I'm going Beyonce. Then Mariah. I'm going to put Jennifer Hudson. And then I'm going Beyonce. Then Mariah. I'm going Whitney. Adele. Man, y'all be sleeping on Mariah. Y'all don't be wanting to give Mariah no credit. I just put her. She was just fifth.

Fifth? Yeah, I like the, listen. For me, for me, for me, I like the Listen For me For me For me I like the soulful Church voices Fantasia Jennifer Hudson Kiki Wyatt

Now I know Beyonce Is one of the greatest Of all time Maybe the greatest Of all time But I'm just saying For me I prefer

That I want to feel like I'm back home at church. That's all. No disrespect. I'm going Whitney. I put Whitney first, too, so. Lady Ray, hey, guys, let's hear the best impression of someone famous.

Can you do impressions of De Niro, Denzel, or what? Or who can you imitate? Nobody? Yeah, I can't Or who can you imitate? Nobody? Yeah, I can't do no imitations. Nah. But it seems like everybody can do an imitation of me. Especially O'Goffrey. Yep. Jay Pharoah. And Jamie Foxx, too.

Don't think I forgot that, Jamie Foxx. Guys, we went long tonight, but we have a great nightcap after dark for you I hate you and guys we went long tonight I am so sorry but trust me Saturday we got a very very special nightcap after dark after a special episode of the Lakers game so please make sure you guys tune in. So I know we went a little long tonight.

We were having some fun. Ocho got his soccer in. He wanted to do soccer. Yeah. So that's his thing. So we're going to try to incorporate that whenever we can to make sure Ocho gets an opportunity to show the love for that great sport. Please, please, guys, make sure you hit that like button.

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to Apple Podcasts and leave a comment. Please make sure you subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed. You can get it through the Club Shay Shay feed, but we would greatly greatly appreciate it if you got it through the Nightcap feed. Thank you guys for selling out Shay by La Portilla. We're going to have it back it back we got it in stock but we're just taking pre-orders because we don't want to we made that mistake one time before we didn't have it and then you

got the orders came in but we're only taking pre-orders now um and so guys thank you for the patience again i cannot say that enough please make sure you go out and vote for us. We're nominated for a Webby Award. Best sports podcast. We're nominated for a Webby Award. Nightcap is nominated for a Webby Award. And we're nominated for two awards. I think best feature guest and best interview. Cat Williams, best feature guest, best interview, Marshawn Lynch, Beast Mode. Two podcasts, three awards, nominees. Hey, let's try to get the sweepstakes. Where? Okay, and just finding out the Shorty Awards, which is another

award for a podcast, Club Nightcap is nominated for two awards, Club Shea Shea is nominated for three awards. So please make sure you go vote for the Shorty Awards, Nightcap, and Club Shea Shea. Man. We need all that. Better, better, better, better than I could possibly imagine. We need all that. Need all better, better, better than I could possibly imagine. We need all that. Need all that.

Yes, we do. So please make sure you guys go vote for the Webby. Make sure you guys go vote for the Shorty Awards. And hey, niece, Angel, thank you so much for the jacket. I will wear it with pride. So thank you very much for the jacket. Ocho, you're going to get yours soon. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, route runner extraordinaire, Bengal ring of fame honoree, pro bowler, all pro, Liberty City's own, Mr. Real Risotto himself. That's Chad Ocho Cinco Real Risotto Hyphen Johnson. See you Saturday. Thanks.

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