Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Son of Falcons DC behind Draft Prank Call + Celtics & Knicks take 3-1 leads in Playoffs

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson and NBA Legend Gary Payton react to Round 1 of the NBA Playoffs featuring, Jalen Brunson and the Knicks beating the Pistons in Game 4, Jayson Tatum and the Celtics going up 3-1 on the Magic, the latest on Shedeur Sanders being prank called during the NFL Draft & more!1:47 - Knicks vs Pistons10:14 - Celtics vs Magic19:44 - Draymond Green and Jalen Green24:00 - Sheduer Sanders’ draft day prank43:00 - Abdul Carter responds to No. 1156:00 - 82-year-old man runs a 16.02 100M59:30 - Q&Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The volume. The Knicks escape with a 94-93 victory and the 3-1 lead in the best of seven in the first round series against the Pistons. The refs screwed the Pistons out of game-winning free throws.

Officials acknowledged after the game that one huge was missed today on the final play. With the Knicks leading by one, Tim Hardaway Jr. drew contact from Josh Hart as Hardaway went up for the potential game-winning shot with.03 seconds. Three-point attempt misfired. Even Josh Hart admits he made contact. Jalen Brunson, 32 points, 11 assists.

Cat, 27 points, 9 rebounds. Outscored the Pistons, those two, 23-22 in the fourth quarter. And they combined for the Knicks' final seven buckets. I don't know. The official was standing right there, GP. Not only did he get it with his body, he got it on his arm. Yeah. See, Shad, I hate this.

You can't call that? No, no, no. No calling after the game. Call it during the game. I hate when they go and they look at it and they say, we made a mistake. Why are you telling me now? Right. I lost the game call the door of the game see I hate when they go and they look at it and they say we made a mistake why are you telling me now

I lost the game you should have you should have played today that's why I hate this replay crap and all that man and these challenges

because y'all understand y'all missed the play and you missed the call so don't tip after the game over because you lost the game

if you make this call I go and make two free throws and we win the game you feel me that's. So don't tip after the game over because you lost the game. If you make this call, I go and make two free throws and we win the game. You feel me? That's why I don't like this basketball, man. Y'all got to make the... The NBA has to get better

on these games, man. They got to. They got to give these coaches and everybody more challenges. You got to get more challenges because you're losing games. And you're going to tell me now, I'm sorry.

You're sorry? What? I'm down 3-1. I'm sorry? What are you talking about? And it's supposed to be 2-2. And it's a change of whole the domains of this whole game and all this thing. So now you talking about now I got to go home and say, oh, I'm sorry.

And then you're going to admit to me after the game. They have to change this, man. They got to change this game, man. And they say, man, when you want to challenge, challenge it. You feel me? And that's just the way it got to be. And you just tell me i missed it ah man now what i'm supposed to do is say okay i'm sorry okay you cool okay man you missed it

no you're crazy you lost me the game and that's what it is. So they got to be more consistent. They got to be more there. And the NBA got to figure it out, man. You cannot keep missing calls and letting these referees dictate these games. Because these young fellas is playing hard. And that Detroit team didn't deserve that. They didn't deserve it. Right. Cat. Man, Cat down the stretch.

That shot that Cat hit from the baseline, falling out of the final GP, that might have been Cat's best shot of his career. Unreal. It reminds you of Kawhi Leonard at Toronto. Make that big shot to win the basketball game. You know what I'm saying? He made a hell of a shot, man.

And it is what it is. He's the type of player. Swish is. He's a type of player. Swish it. He's a type of player who makes shots like that and ready for it. It is what it is, man. But I just say I hate losing a game on a call from a referee. I just don't like that. I don't like that.

Let me clear. I don't either. Don't tell me about it. Let social media, let everybody say they missed that call. But don't you come. Let me hear. I don't either. Don't tell me about it. Hey, let everybody, let social media, let everybody say they missed that call. But don't you come out with that report. Hey, that wasn't even too important. That was the pool reporter. He's like, yeah, we missed it.

Man, I hate that. See, and then you come back after the game and say, I missed it. Man, you going to make me mad more mad. You know what I'm saying? You make me more mad. You know what I'm saying? I'm mad because I lost, but I know I got fouled. And then you're going to tell me I missed?

Come on. And come on. Yeah. It reminds me of that perfect game that Jim Joyce blew. Andres Galarraga had a perfect game. He beat the guy to the bag, Ocho. Jim Joyce called him safe, had him out, and… And I'm probably never the same.

He cried. And he was like, hey, I cost this kid a perfect game. Yes, sir. And he did. Same thing in the 85 World Series, St. Louis Cardinals. I think Donnie Durkin was the official. He blew the call. Roy's goal, score, and win the World Series.

I mean, you know, you hate things like that. You're like, well, Shannon, they are human. And they are. They are. But, boy, as the team that's on the losing side of that, man, damn it, I ain't trying to hear that. I don't want to. I ain't trying to hear none of that.

But you got to give it a look. Jalen Brunson was clutch before him the other year. You see why. You see why he deserved that award. Cat, this is what I'm talking about. We get frustrated with Cat because we see a guy seven foot tall with so much ability. And sometimes he's settled, GP. He wants to hang around the three.

Cat, get your seven foot, big butt down on that block and post up and shoot that turnaround or put the ball on the floor because you have that kind of ability and finish at the rim. And see, Chad, that's why I'm so biased, man, because my arrow was our weapon was the big thing. Put your big butt down there and make the food. Thank you, man. You feel me? If they double you, kick it. We do what we want to.

And look how effective he is when he's down there. Stop being a strength and shooting all these threes, man. I hate this game. Because when you're running three on one and everybody running to the three-point line and they miss it, well, we can make a difference if we get a bucket and put pressure on these dudes, man.

And that's what I like about him. He's starting to now say, forget it, let me go get a bucket and put pressure on these dudes and make them be accountable and say, yo, you don't have to come down here and score again because if you don't, I'm going to go back down here and score a bucket and get me two.

It don't matter. It ain't number one point. Two or three. Get it. Go get it. Because if I go down the floor five times and I score two buckets and they shoot five threes and miss, what am I? Nothing.

It's going to be hard for you to come back. And I'm playing D. So that's what I don't... But they don't play D no more. They don't play D no more, G.P. That's why I don't like doing these games. I hate that because I be like, I'm going to get a steal.

I'm going to play D. I'm going to do this. And it's crazy to play deep. I'm going to do this. And it's crazy to me that y'all don't want to play defense. It's crazy. Nah. Ain't nobody. I mean, back then you had guys known for defense. Now everybody tried to put it in the bucket.

Everybody tried to get max contract by scoring a bunch of points. And I get it. I ain't mad at them because I see what these salaries. And GP, guys make it 40, 50, 60. Joker about to sign a contract three years, 218, 219 million. He's going to get

222. 222, okay. 70 million a year. You look at Butler. He just got two-year deal for 120. Two for 120. That's $60 million a year. So, you know, I get it. We set the foundation for them to get all this

bread. It is what it is. We think about it. Be like, Mama, why you didn't have me later on? You know what I'm saying? I tell my mama that all the time. But it's good for it, man. But I'm just saying, I see dudes making $18, $19 million and only average six points or four points a game,

and they ain't never made an All-League, an All-Star, or nothing. You know what I'm saying? But we in that era. We in that era. But go and do something

when you get in the game. Show me that you can play. You know what I'm saying? Don't just get this money, man. Just show me you can play. Give me something that you can show me you can play. You know what I'm saying? Don't just be like, oh, I'll make this money and it's good. Show me me you can play give me something that you that need showing me you can play you know what i'm saying don't just be like oh i make this money and it's good show me that you can play

the boston celtics go up 3-1 with a 107 98 victory over the orlando magic jason tatum was sensational 37 points 14 rebounds three assists three steals jalen brown chipped in with 21 points 14 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals. Jalen Brown chipped in with 21 points, 11 rebounds. Derek White had 18 and 7. Christoph Brzingas had 19 points, 5 rebounds. Played really well. Ben Carroll had 31. Franz Wagner had 24. Corey Joseph had 12.

But it wasn't nearly enough. It was too much JT. It was too much JB. And like you said, the others, when you get a Przingis, give me a 19. When you get a Derek White, give me a 18. Your big guns go off, and then you get your role players doing exactly

what they're supposed to do. It makes it very, very difficult for you to beat this team, and JT had it going tonight. Perfect from the free throw line. JB was 9 of 10 from the free throw line. Now, Tatum wasn't the most efficient. He's only 10 of 25.

Yeah. But he was putting pressure on them by getting to the free throw line. They were 30 of 32 from the free throw line. Orlando was 14 of 20. Ocho. Yeah.

You watched the Celtics and the only game they lost, I think, is the game that JT didn't play. He hurt his wrist, I think, at the first game. He didn't play and he didn't play. But if you look at them now, they seem to have it rolling. You think

the Celtics can come out of the East? I mean, obviously, you know, they can. I mean, the Celtics are one of the fortunate teams outside of the Cavs. Are they going to come out of the East? I mean, obviously, you know, they can. I mean, the Celtics are one of the fortunate teams outside of the Cavs. Aren't they going to come out of the East? They're absolutely coming out of the East. And I said if it wasn't them, it was going to be my heat. But we know how that went. But the bench, we already know what they could do.

We already know a white Tatum and Porzingis. It's the bench, the contribution that they're getting from the bench that's helping them also along the way. So, I mean, it's almost unfair in a sense because I see not only them coming out to the East, I see them winning again. Because of the depth, because of what they have, and it's almost unfair to a sense, which is why yesterday we had Antoine on the show. We talk about they have new ownership in Boston. But why would you want to break up something like that? And, you know, you're going to win consistently year in and year out.

Because I still want to make it. Yeah, I want to win championships and make money. I mean, think about it. You got two guys that's making $300 million. You got another two guys that make over $100 million. And you got another guy that's making $40 million. That's a lot of money, Ocho, even for a championship. Ocho, that's almost a billion dollars.

So, what you're doing is, Ocho, that team, Boston, is very, very talented. And for me, and all of them, and White, and Ian, they didn't even have a holiday. They didn't have a holiday.

So they're very talented. Even they got the kid off the bench coming Peyton, who was pretty good. Peyton Pritchard, nice. They're very, very talented. You know what I'm saying? So if they can stay together and that's what you want, that's what we talked about. You have to have the

role players that can do it, and then you need to. With Brown and Taylor, if do it. And then you're playing two. Right. With Brown and Taylor. If they play well and then you get some support, it's going to be good. I think Cleveland can match them. I really do. I think Cleveland can match them. They went through two with each other. And if Cleveland plays the way they're supposed to play,

and they get it from Mobley and all them guys. And then Garland. Garland and Mitchell. And everybody, Mitchell going to be him. If they play and match them, they got enough talent to match with them. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. But then when you come, even if they make it out of the East,

this year is not going to be easy. You're not playing Dallas. You're playing a full, strong team from the West. Like an OKC. Even a Clipper team will match up with them really well. You know what I'm saying? You got teams that can match up with them as talent-wise. What to give them something.

Dallas didn't have nothing for them last year. No, no. Dallas just surprisingly got into that because of what? Everybody them something. Dallas didn't have nothing for them last year. No, no. Dallas just surprised they got into that because of what? Everybody got hurt. You know what I'm saying? In the West. And all the top teams got hurt.

Even Denver will match up with them very well. You know, with Joker and all of them. So it'll be a good, it'll be a better challenge this year. But I think Boston and Cleveland is going to make it hard. Nobody else can compete with them in the East. It's going to be Boston or Cleveland. And then in the West, it's wide open.

Whoever playing well in the West is going to win. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of good teams in the West Coast that's really, really good. You know what I'm saying it's a lot of good teams in the west coast that's really really good you know what I'm saying so it'll be interesting but I wouldn't break up my Boston team I guarantee that I don't care I'll run it out

I'll be like um Bill Russell and all I'm a witch I don't care man I don't give a shit. I'm going to put a billion and a half up. You know what I'm saying?

Let me just wait. Hey, hey, hey, but back then, that owner was paying Bill Russell to buy this pocket. He just spent six billion. You know, what's his name? What was his coach? A red armband. A red ar the coach? A red armband. A red armband.

Red armband was doing his thing, man. He was running everything. He didn't care about none of that. And they was playing for pennies. They was only playing for like 15,000, 15,000. You know what I'm saying? So you had that, and they was winning championships. So you got to stay that way and stay on course.

And then, both of you just got stay that way and stay on course. You know what I'm saying? And then, Pofi just got sold for $6.2 billion. Exactly. So I ain't tried to buy, I ain't spend $6 billion and then he put,

got another billion down there in contract. Yeah, you got a billion. $6 billion. So that owner coming up in there with a $7 billion debt already.

Get off his stand. So they got money. You know what I'm saying? So they're going to keep it apart, man. I think they're not going to break that up because they got to get through especially if they went two and one. They ain't breaking that up. They're just going to add pieces and get better. With

37 points in this game, Jason Tatum ties Charles Barkley and Tim Duncan with 11 career, 35 point playoff games. John Moran says he had, he had thunder figured out and Memphis would have tied the series. If he didn't get hurt. You remember two couple of years ago,

he said he was fine in the West. They haven't won another, they haven't won a series since years ago, he said he was fine in the West. They haven't won a series since he said that. Now, do I believe they would have won that game? That he got hurt? They were up 27 playing well? I believe

they'd win that game. But I don't believe they'd win a series. They're not going to win a series against that talented OKC team. I don't care. That team was too talented. They got, and we look at it, you guys. They got 10, 11 guys that's talented. Yeah.

Talented. Come off there and get it. You know what I'm saying? And Memphis don't have that type of team. No. They don't have that type of team. I get it. Morant, before he did all the things that he did

and got in trouble, was probably the best basketball player in the NBA. And he said this. But they got to get somebody that's going to help them more than Jackson and Bang. You know what I'm saying? To compete with these dudes in the West. I get it.

I like Morant's mentality. You shouldn't say that. You shouldn't say, if I'm on the floor, I get it. I like Morant's mentality. You shouldn't say that. You shouldn't say, if I'm on the floor, I'm a weak. But, they wasn't equal

to this OKC team. They didn't lose no games for nothing. You know what I'm saying? They didn't lose no games. But you got to understand, Morant played to it. You feel what I'm saying?

So, I don't believe in that i i just think they weren't as talented as okc they wasn't no not at all i mean listen like and i'm listening uh and ngp i'm just trying to throw little nuggets out there you know y'all really not listening to me i'm not saying i'm not woesh i'm not shams but what i told y'all early in the show when it does happen i just want y'all to be like you know what ocho well you was right you was right yeah you're coming to miami and y'all is coming to miami too i'm telling you i sat down and i talked with these folk you know they confided me when it

comes to situations like this even though i I didn't play, you know, at an NBA level, but they understand I know the game and I know the players and they know I can take care of people when they come to Miami

and make sure I keep them aligned and focused on what they need to do when they're here. Ted, I'm with you, baby. I'm with you, baby.

Man, if you get them too, I'm a, you know, I'm gonna come to Miami And be with you man And holla at you a lot of times Cause if you get two of them two You're gonna be something else

Yeah I'm telling you I'm telling you you'll see Listen I lied for you before I lied to you man Jalen Green Jalen Green spoke about the exchange Between him and Draymond at the end of the game when Draymond told Jalen Green, go paint your nails. Jalen said, just talking. He can't really do much anything else.

So talking is his only way. Hey, GPD, y'all, hey. Because now, I mean, now they throw a tick on you. You guys used to be at each other's face, spit blood everywhere. Now you say one thing, you look at the guy for a tick. This is weak basketball,

man. Let these dudes play, man. Let them talk crazy, man. I'm with it. I was right there when I seen all of that and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, these dudes ain't some really, I'm telling y'all, Shannon and Chad,

get outside, man, go outside to the restaurant and see them one-on-one. That ain't gonna work. That, that, that, that,

get out of here, man. That ain't happening. You know what I'm saying? Y'all can talk all that, man, and be whatever. Just,

just prove it on the basketball court. To me, we're on the floor. You, you want, Don't get mad at what somebody else say. You know what I'm saying? I don't care. Stop him from doing it and he won't say it no more. That's what I did. That's why I talk trash.

I can back it up. If you say something to me, I'm going to give you a 40. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to give you a 40, 10, 8, whatever. And then I'm going to be like, yeah, we won. What's happening? Stop all that wop, wop, wop, man. Because ain't none of them tough like that.

Them dudes ain't no gangsters, man. Ain't nobody shot no pistols and did all that the rest of their life, man. Them dudes ain't even on that. You know what I'm saying? Stop being like you Billy Bane. You ain't Billy Bane, man. Because if we get to one-on-one somewhere, man, we knuckle up.

Them dudes ain't going to be like that. They ain't going to be like that, man. So, man, just go on and prove it on the floor, man, and go on about your business. You know what I'm saying? It is what it is. You know, it was legit. It's just like if somebody say, man, I was with your

wife last night. Yeah, I was with yours last night, too. That's why I wasn't home. You feel what I'm saying? I ain't tripping. Yeah, you was with her. Don't be with her. You feel what I'm saying? Because I was with yours last night, too.

And while you was thinking about me, you feel what I'm saying? So I'm with it, man. I ain't on that, man. All that woo, woo, woo. He say he with the edge. Yeah, man, I ain't with that woo, woo, woo. Man, go ahead and prove it on the basketball court, man. And that's what I'm talking about.

Prove it tomorrow. Thank you, man. Go get it. Go get it. You feel me? So that's all I got to say about that. Go get it. Made for This Mountain is a podcast

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the 21-year-old son of defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich, unintentionally came across the draft contact phone number for Shador Sanders off an output iPad while visiting his parents' home and wrote the number down and later conducted a prank

call. Jeff Ulbrich was unaware of the data exposure and any facet of the prank and was made aware of the above only after the fact. Atlanta Falcons do not condone this behavior and send our sincere apologies to Shadur Sanders and his family, who we've been in contact with to apologize to, as well as facilitate an apology directly

from Jack to the Sanders family. We have also been in contact with the NFL and will continue to cooperate fully with any inquiries we may receive from the NFL League office. We are thoroughly reviewing all protocols and updating if necessary to help prevent an incident like this from happening again. Falcons. Falcons. Jack posted an apology.

On Friday night, I made a tremendous mistake. Shador, what I did was completely inexcusable, embarrassing, and shameful. I'm so sorry. I took away from your moment. It was selfish and childish. I could never imagine getting ready to celebrate one of the greatest moments of your life, and I made a terrible mistake, and I messed

with that moment. Thank you for accepting my call earlier today. I hope you can find it in your heart. So forgive me. At Shador Sanders. Ocho, is this apology enough or should the Falcons punish,

well, I don't know who, I don't know how they can punish the Sun. They might punish the Dead. Yeah. You didn't get Dr. Drapik. So if you were to punish the Falcons,

how do you punish them? And should, should they be punished first? And if you are going to punish the Falcons, how do you punish them? And should they be punished first? And if you are going to punish them, what should the punishment be? I mean, listen, I say if you're going to punish them to some extent, I would say it would have to come from the dad. Obviously, it was the son. It was the son that made the call.

Obviously, dad, I'm not sure how the son got the number. Who knows? But the punishment should come with the dad. Maybe a fine of some sort. I think draft picks would be a little bit too much because the team itself as a whole shouldn't have to suffer for what the son decided to do. Outside of that, the apology, I mean, at that moment, at that point. Seems sincere. It seems sincere, especially being that it was written from someone else, and it's

no. It's just a bunch of you-know-what. Did he really mean it? No. The fact that he got caught is the only reason he's apologizing. Bro, how do you, Ojo, you came, and you let him record you. Oh. They're not sorry. They know what they

were doing. They're young. It was a prank. We're in the era of pranks, and like you say, everybody, everybody don't play the same. They're playing too much, Ojo. They play not sorry. They know what they were doing. They're young. It was a prank. We're in the era of pranks. And like you say, everybody don't play the same. They're playing too much, Ocho. They play too much. Listen, they thought it was a funny moment. They thought it was a funny moment when it really wasn't. It really wasn't.

Before you go, JP, other players also reportedly had prank calls. Tyler Warren had a prank call. There were several other players. And you see that, like you said, Ocho, we're in that era. Everything is about a prank. Everybody want to do a pull or something. A viral moment. Want to touch somebody, want to do something,

dump something on their head. Everybody, like GP, like you've been saying the whole night, everybody don't play how you play. Yeah. Now, when somebody fire you up, then, well, he didn't have to do that. Well, you didn't have to do that. Leave people alone. Especially people

you don't have a relationship with. You going out there in some mall or you walking down the street, you don't know that person from a hill of beans. And that's why this social media has messed us up. About life and everything

about this crazy stuff. That little kid knew what he was doing because he went in his daddy's phone and got that phone number. He did that on purpose. So, I hate saying punish your dad because your dad

is trusting in you as my son and I'm trusting you that you won't go do stuff that's just like almost stealing though y'all that's almost like stealing yeah it's almost like he's stealing from your peoples and your dad has to take the blame for what you have done because i can't punish you because you're not in a atlantic atlanta falcons um organization So I have to punish your daddy because of the situation, because it hurts that person who you did it to. And these young kids today, man,

and I tell you, this generation is different. These kids are different. They think that's funny, and they think that's something to do. And somebody else is expensive expensive they think this is funny and then when you get caught like Chad said and boy ain't sorry cause if he was sorry

he would have said he did it from day one and he would have been like man I did it but he got caught and when he got caught he hadn't said the right thing to make his daddy be okay and look a little bit better. Yeah.

And you look at it. Here's the thing, Ocho. Yeah. Shador Sanders' phone number wasn't the only one in there. But he was the one that was having a precipitous fall. So now, which prank is going to generate the most buzz? Knowing Shador is on eggshells. He's on pins and needles waiting to have an NFL team call him and say,

hey, we're going to select you in the fourth round. We're going to select you in the fifth round. So check this out. He got the number from an iPad that he shouldn't have been using. He waited days because it didn't just happen. And then he made the prank call. He filmed himself while making the prank calls, waited days to make the apology.

He wanted a viral moment. Everything ain't mentioned. Like you said, in this day and age, Ocho, everything is about clicks, like, mentioned. And a viral moment. That's what it's all about, man.

That's why I like my era. We didn't have all that crap. No, man, it ain't like that. We didn't get out of that. Nah. See, I tell you all the time. I say, I came up, I don't remember me playing no practical jokes on nobody.

Boy, you better scrap it up. You can't do that because next time we see you, we're going to knock you out. You feel what I'm saying? It ain't going to be about, man, okay, man, I'm going to take this court date, man. No, man, I'm going to knock you smooth out. Because we ain't talking about all that because you messing with my livelihood. About all this social media, all that crap, man.

We ain't doing that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm glad I didn't come up in that area. I'm glad. Now, look, I would have loved to made the money

that these cats make. Yeah. But, GP, I wouldn't want to be in this era. It's too much. I wouldn't want to be in the social media era. I wouldn't.

I'm going to tell y'all, I don't want to be in the social media era because I would have been divorced way earlier than what I did and all that stuff. I would have been all bad, man. You're stupid. I would have been divorced way earlier than what I did. And all that stuff. I would have been all bad, man. You're stupid.

I would have been, man, I would have been viral all the time. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? But, man, every day you walk out, man, you're going to see, man, there's a camera, man, all, man. And you look at that, man, man, I ain't on that, man. What is a like to me? I don't care about no likes, man. I'm already popular.

You know what I'm saying? I don't care if you give me a million likes. A million people are already looking at me. So what? I don't care about all that, man. You messing up my life, man. And I'm not dealing with that, though. It's crazy to me that you can sit on the phone

and watch people do what they do, and they're silly. You just told me, and I ain't surprised, that boy got in that eye bag and then filmed himself doing it. How stupid is that?

How you think that we ain't gonna figure that out? Yeah. How you think we ain't gonna get that? That's how dudes get caught killing people, murdering people, whatever they're doing. Man, they go back to y'all phone. Doing foolishness. Go back to your phone and

you got the pistol showing it and doing this and that and that. That's how they catch you. You're silly. So that's why I tell a lot of kids that I talk to now, that social media killing y'all, man. It's hurting y'all.

It's hurting y'all life, man. Because all y'all think about is likes. And who gonna like you on there? That's how people get robbed and do stuff. You feel the thing? Talk about I'm here, I'm there. And then all of a sudden they look in the back, oh man, he got Centennial Park.

Let me ride up on him right now. Let me ride up on that. That's crazy to me, man, that you do that. That's just silly. That's just silly stuff to me. Dang. Should do her. Penn is first, both on NFL X and IG accounts.

If you go to both NFL and Brown's official websites, click shop. Who's the first Cleveland Brown jersey you can preorder? Shador's. Many NFL fans on TikTok have pledged to purchase Shador's jersey and merchandise exclusively from his official website rather than from the NFL shop to support him after being drafted in the fifth round. They believe the league blackballed Shador.

Shador could potentially make millions of dollars from this trend. And you'll probably see other players you know, Ocho, you got it. I'm proud of you doing what you know, Ocho. You'd have had your little cap. You'd have had the Ocho gear going. And that's good.

Look, both of y'all. And look at you guys. Look, look, both of y'all. Y'all know it's daddy. Daddy going to make that up. You know what I'm saying? Deion did that, man. And that's what they're going to do. They're going to just show up, everybody, what they did to him.

Y'all know that boy shouldn't have got drafted in no fifth round. He shouldn't have been 144K. No, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. You go from projected to be number nine, 144. That's crazy.

Yeah. And then the teams that were supposed to draft you, pass you. And then the team who drafted, he had it at the 33rd pick in the second round. And they didn't pick it. You see? It's got to be a black ball thing. We ain't going to never know why, what happened, or why it happened, but it

happened. But to me, I just tell my little young nephew, man, go out there and kill them. And win the job. Get out with them, man. Be one of them special ones like Marino, like Brent Favre out with them, man. Be one of them special ones like Marino, like Brett Favre, man. Do that, man.

They got drafted like that and then become a Hall of Famer and become one of them dudes. That's all you got to do, man. Forget it. And then make your bread, man, the way you is because he popular, man.

This social media got him popular. He going to be popular no matter what. He going to be popular no matter what. He's going to be popular. So just do it. I think it's a blessing in disguise. Obviously, going into the fifth round and the pick he went is not the blessing I'm talking about. I'm just saying the situation he's going to, Flacco, is just there on the one-year deal.

Deshaun Watson's not going to be able to play this year. So I'm assuming the way I'm thinking and thinking it's going to play out, I think he will be able to beat out Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel. And I think he's going to get his shot. He's going to get his shot to play. I'm not sure if it's this year. Maybe it's next year. But that's something he's going to get his shot. And I think it's going to be magical for him.

And seeing it as a blessing in disguise and finally being... It's not, Ocho. You know why? Because look how much pressure they put on Bronny James.ames bradley bradley james you thought bradley james was the first pick in the draft right the way they talk about him until my oh he did he was the he was the 55th pick they got with five picks left gp yeah make it seem like they took the man but because of that last name you gotta understand if his name was shidur jones maybe you're right. Right. But we know who his dad is. Right.

And we know what that dad, that aura around his dad. I can't agree with you. I got to agree with Chad on this one. Because that's a little bit of different talent. My little nephew, Ronnie, wasn't really, really ready

for that situation, for that athletic ability, right? He had to grow into that. He forgot. He missed the whole college thing. Oh, yeah, yeah. With the heart thing, you know, what happened or whatever. But Shakur is ready.

He got the talent to do that right now. And if you think of Roddy right now, Roddy killing the G League. He had to get himself into that situation to do it. Roddy going to be good in two, three years. I think Shador is going to be ready now. I was saying because of the names. What I was just saying because of the names and the expectations. Even though he's a fifth-round pick.

And, Ojo, you know we don't have no expectations for no fifth round pick yeah right but you do because your last name just like we got expectations now for the 55th pick it's just like yokich when yokich got drafted ain't no if they're lying if they told they well i knew yoki was gonna be this if you knew he was gonna be this you took it with the number one overall pick. Right. So you a D-line saying you knew Nikola Yoki was going to turn out to be what he was going to be. Because he was a second round pick.

I think he was like 40 something. It's the same thing. So you put pressure. You say it should do it, should do it, should do it. Here's a fifth round pick. You're going to bypass that and say, well, look at his last name. I thought y'all said he was all this. Brian is going to be the fifth.

If he all that, he should be able to do like his dad. We don't have all those picks. Now, we went back to our fourth round, five round two, like the NFL. Then he got picked like that. Then it's a little different. He only got six picks. So he can pick because the simple

fact is, is the lakers had that pick and it wasn't for lebron being on the lakers and they making that pick he probably wouldn't got drafted which would have been no problem you know what i'm saying but we only got two rounds you know what i'm saying they got it happened to have to figure out gp don't even make it so it's a little different of what we're saying it see what I'm saying so it's a little different of what we're saying you know what I'm saying

we don't know if he would've got drafted if the Lakers didn't have that 52th pick you feel what I'm saying right but

they did pick him which was a blessing because he is talented right he is very very talented and he's gotta give him a chance

football players got seven rounds they gotta they gonna do that He is very, very talented. And he's got to give him a chance. Football players got seven rounds. They got to, they're going to do that. They're going to do that. So we happy that they do got these type of rounds. But if basketball would have had five or six, seven rounds, and he got drafted in the fifth or sixth round, we wouldn't be expecting to be nothing.

What you said, he might not even make the team. But here's the thing, GP. Once you start getting Ocho, you don't know anything about this because you're a second-rounder. You start getting fifth, sixth, fifth and sixth, seventh round, you can't buy it. Hey, Ocho, we just need enough

to fill the roster. It ain't no guarantee when you start getting them later on. In the NFL, y'all know y'all first three rounds is almost like first round picks with us. Yeah, basically, yeah. You want it in the NFL, the first three rounds, you start. You start in the NFL. You feel what I'm saying? You basically going to start in the NFL if you get picked in the first three rounds.

You know what I'm saying? In basketball, if you pick 50-60, you're in a G League, 10-day contract or whatever, you're going to G League, 2-way. We're going to give you a deal and you got to look at Bronny. He got a heck of a deal.

Oh, he got a money guarantee. But he's not the first second rounder To get money guaranteed, though, GP No, no, no, no, no They're right Because people believe In other things But then you think about it

Like this, Shannon What if I don't pick you And then pick you up in the 3-8 And then still give you Some guaranteed money That's all No, I want the guaranteed money Right here

You weren't going to pick me up And give me that kind of guaranteed money So I go ahead and take this right here Hey, hey, hey Hey, hey, hey. You heard me? Yeah, what you saying with Joe? I don't think you're seeing it from the same lens I'm seeing it at.

I'm looking at the situation in its totality, right? Okay. Okay, you went fifth round. Now, I look at it. I look at the landscape of what they got. They got Flacco. Flacco's not going to be that long. Deshaun, Deshaun is hurt.

He's coming off of an Achilles injury. I see, I think, no disrespect to Kenny Pickett, no disrespect to Dylan Gabriel. I see him beating them out. So I see Shador as the number two quarterback with Flacco playing. Now, depending on how Flacco plays

throughout the entirety of the season, there's a chance that Shador, he goes to the helm. I say it's a blessing in disguise. So what happens? We look at the quarterback, the quarterback carousel, the quarterbacks that the Browns have had

throughout the entirety of their franchise. The last decent quarterback there, a lot of them. The last good one that was consistent was Bernie Kosar. Yes. So I'm looking long term. And before that, it was Otto Graham.

Yeah. Hey, I'm looking long term. This might be a blessing in disguise yeah for sure despite so i'm just looking at it like that and knowing him and knowing the competitor that shidur is understanding the background and where he's come from he's able to deal with this adversity and again hurdle this option as well. And this situation, this situation for him, a GP, delayed, not denied. Chad, I'm on your side.

I think Shador is going to be their quarterback for the next six, seven years. And he's going to be good. Yeah. I'm going to say decade, decade.

I can say 10 too. Because I think he's going to go in there and show up. He's going to go in there and show up. He's going to go in there and show up. And I think he's got a chip on his shoulder now

that him and his daddy done talked about it. Go in there and get out with what you're going to get out with. And I'm guaranteed he's going to go in there. And I don't even care

about Flacco. Flacco, oh. Man, if you fool around and be moving and doing what you do, man, and pass that thing, get first down or whatever, them Cleveland Browns ain't been nothing in a long time anyway. If you can get some people in them stands and getting people high,

Chatter, you just said it. His jersey is the number one in Cleveland right now, man. What y'all think? Yeah. What y'all think, what y'all think man that that's gonna happen i think he gonna show up and that's what he should do he should go in there and show up show up yep yeah and it's oh joe yeah abdul carter responded to us on twitter this afternoon i wore number 11 i have shoes. I've filled big shoes before.

If you know football, you know who also wore the stick, which means 11. It's not about the number. It's about the player. The number, just a legacy. It's iconic, something cool. Look at the legacy of the stick. I came to Penn State and not only lived up to that number, but I made it even more legendary.

That's how I see it. I shot. If he says no, cool. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Yes, sir. But I spoke to LT on the phone yesterday. She'll do. Don't speak it with the goat.

And no for certain, 56 or not, I'll build my own legacy. I don't, Allah, I think he said, I think he said praise to God or something like that right Abdul we said that I mean

when we had you on the couch we appreciate it again I don't think Ocho and I and Nightcap the family thank you enough for coming by yes sir

I appreciate hey Bailey thank you Drew we appreciate that because I Bailey I played with Bailey

yeah for two years at B-Board and Drew Rosenhaus probably probably his first start, he was down at the East Blue-Grey game in Montgomery, Alabama, Ocho, in 1989. So it goes back. So, Abdul, I want to thank you for coming on. Ocho, I want to thank you.

Thank you, Drew Rosenhaus and Bailey, Robert Bailey, for making that happen. Yes, we highlighted. That number was made famous by LeVar Arrington. That number was then followed by Michael Parsons, and then you took it. As great as those players were, wearing that number 11 at Penn State. Yes, sir. You can't even fathom. Because let me tell you what happened.

Every outside linebacker you see is because of LT. The Von Millers, the TJ Watts, the Derek Thomases, the Cornelius Bennets, all these, the Leonard Flores, you name an outside edge rusher. He's the only player in NFL history to make two positions famous. He made the left tackle famous. He made the outside linebacker famous. Two. When we talk about who's

the greatest quarterback you get some debate some people say payton some people say montana some people say brady yeah i'm gonna fight you that's not what we're here to do today if we say who's the greatest wide receiver you get some people say jerry some people say randy moss some people say teo if we say who's the best running back? Some people say Jim Brown. Some people say Walter Payton. Barry Sanders. When you say, who is the greatest defensive NFL player ever? There's one name that comes out of

everybody's mouth first. LT. And he goes by initials. They don't call him Lawrence. They call him LT. That's all we're saying. So I get the sticks. But 5'6"? In New York?

It was Kyle. And that's my OG. That's my OG. Every time I see him, I'm with him. I just saw him a couple of weeks ago. He had the autograph sign. I've been seeing him all the time. That's my dude, man. I just saw him a couple of weeks ago and had the autograph sign. I'll be seeing him on the top now.

That's my dude, man. That was the greatest defensive player ever in the NFL. And there's been some great ones. And I'm fortunate enough to play in the era. I played in the era with Reggie at his prime. Bruce Smith at his prime. Ray Lewis at his prime. Deion, Coach Prime at his prime.

I'm talking about guys that won defensive player of the year multiples. He's it. He made two positions famous. Yeah. I think it's different. I think it's different, but this is what I do like about Abdul.

The confidence. I feel. The belief. I feel I can wear that 56 and do it justice, despite LT being the greatest defensive player of all time. That's what makes Abdul who he is right now. That's why he was drafted where he was drafted, when he wore the sticks, when he was at Penn State.

The belief, the confidence on not only that, in between them lines, the skill set to be able to pull it off. So the mere fact that he's coming in with that kind of cash-in attitude, I feel like I could wear that 56 in New York and do right by it. That's how I feel about myself and my skill set.

I don't even want it. As a matter of fact, I ain't even going to get a 50 number. Because they might say I'm close to 56. I might be close to it. I don't want it. I'm going to get me a I'm going to go back and get that number. I go back and get a single digit number zero. This is what Shannon say, man. Look at it, man. I don't even want that number, man.

I don't even want to live up to none of that, man. Let me go on number, man. Get out. He's legendary. You can't do it on a legendary number, man. Don't even mess with that. Don't even be talking about all that, man. Put yourself in that situation, man. Just go even mess with that. Don't even be talking about all that, man, to put yourself in that situation, man. Just go on the world level, do what you did, and get out.

You feel what I'm saying? And get out. You know what I'm saying? If you hear the story about LT, LT late for the plane. LT gets out the car, throws his keys to the valet, says, I'll be back here Sunday. Pick me up. And the guy picks him up on Sunday.

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NLT, he's driving a New York Ocho. He's driving. He's like, damn, they got the last on the Giants. Damn, he driving a New York Ocho. He driving. He like, damn. They got the last one in John's stadium. He's supposed to be playing. Hey, on NFL film, man, Bill Belichick told a story one day about starting a meeting. Starting a meeting. And the head, I don't remember who the head coach was at the time.

Parcells was the head coach. Okay, Parcells was the head coach. So, Bill Belichick, I think Bill must have went to Parcells and said something about, you know what, well, LT, you know, he showed up late to a meeting and he wasn't there. And so Parcells asked him, well, did you start the meeting on time or did you wait for him to get there? He said, no, I just waited for him to get there.

Well, that's a good thing. Because the meeting don't start until LT get there. I mean, what are we talking about here? Like, what? It's like now, Ocho, guys, you got an opportunity to see Tom Brady. If you're old enough, you get an opportunity to see Tom Brady. If you weren't old enough, you didn't see Joe and those come-from-behind victories, and you didn't see Elway and Marino and Blake.

So I don't think people realize because they see TJY and they see Aaron. Think about it. This man won the MVP of the league as a defensive player. Of the league. Different, man. He was LT. What was LT? Like a 10-time All-Pro.

Like eight or nine first team. Jesus. Do you know how hard it is to beat that? A first team. I think Brady has three first-team All-Pros over the season that he won the MVP. Let that sink in for a second. Aaron Donald was, I think,

an eight-time first-team All-Pro in 10 seasons. I think LT had that many, but LT had like, I think he went like six or seven in a row. Carl Banks, somebody beat him out, and then he went to another two or three. How many first-team All-Pros did LT have? Eight first-team?

How many consecutive? Seven? He was eight first team. And how many second team? One or two. But look, Abdul, I think you're going to be a phenomenal player. Go strike, y'all. Go get y'all.

Go build your own legacy. Because you're there. I mean, think about it. I don't care what corner. You think Joe Brown going to go to New England and say, hey, let me get that 12. But, Shannon,

we shouldn't even be talking about this and the Giants would be like, man, you can't have that number. Hey, listen. Hey, GP. You can't even have that number. GP, in that media market, you know how New York media is is you know they don't play

you don't play you you yeah listen you don that 56 and understand what comes behind that or even having it on your having it on i don't want that i don't listen i listen i'm and you know how i am gp um you know how i am i don't care what nobody say, especially the media, because I'm an actor fool. But I wouldn't even, I'm just saying, if, hypothetically speaking, I don't want what comes behind that 56 when it every Sunday at one o'clock.

Uh-uh. No, sir. No, sir. Like I said, they shouldn't even think about giving it to me. This man going here, man. This is your jersey, man. This is your locker.

You wear those and mix it up. They already got it hanging up, GP. This man gets a jersey up in This is in your locker. You wear it. I'm going to shut up. They already got a hand up, GP. This man gets a jersey up in his locker room and say, you got a level. Here's what it is, man. Don't even come to my office. I'll talk about 56. And then I send LT and bring him to the thing and say, boy,

you know better than that. I don't do more. You know what I'm saying? Let's talk. LT good. LT like, yeah, I appreciate it, but I mean, like, you've been around LT. I've been around LT. I don't know how much you've been around LT, Ocho.

Hey, hold on. Hey, that's a good one. Me and LT, we be at Twin Peaks. I'm saying you can see the pictures. I see him all the time. He coming off the golf course. Coming there, smoking a cigar with his buddies. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. That's him. That's him. That's all he want to do is golf and smoke a cigar. And I see him in about two weeks. Anthony Anderson is a golf benefit, man. So, yeah. I see him all the time.

With signings and everything. That's my guy. So, you know what I'm saying, man? LT ain't worried about that. LT, we're was gonna tell that boy You ain't gonna never Compare to me Everybody gotta understand

Put your name Or your picture next to me It ain't gonna never be another LT I don't care Nobody's saying it You know what I'm saying Just put your picture next to us And we be good

You know The Josh You know what I do like You know what I do like Hold on before we go Before you go I just wanna say this About Abdul Carter You know, the job, you know, that situation, you know, that I do like all of them before we go, before you go, I just want to

say this about Abdul Carter. You know what I do like though, GP and all the confidence though. Yeah. Oh,

I love that. Hey, there's, there's, there's something in players that they don't have that we had

back in the day. GP, you talked about it earlier, you know, as far as supporting cash, you know,

role players and all that young bull got confidence for the mere fact he even had a goal in the ball to say, I don't want to even wear that 56.

Think about this, Ocho. What did that tell you? What did that tell you about him? Aaron Donald won three defensive players a year. So did J.J. Watt. Yeah.

And ain't nobody said they're better than LT. And we watching them in this era. Yeah. So now remember now, when LT played, they didn't throw the football like they in this era. Yeah. So now remember now when LT played, they didn't throw the football like they throw it now. Right.

He didn't have the chances to go to hunt the quarterback like they do now. Mm-hmm. They put a special, Joe Gibbs put a special office in just to deal with LT. He put the H back in. He said, I want to put somebody over here with the left tackle so they can help on LT.

That's when you know, when they design a special offense to deal with you, if you couldn't block him, you couldn't beat the Giants. Go back and look at the 80s and look at the left tackles that got drafted in the first round.

Right. Jim Lachey, and they go get Herb Eatman, they go get Gary Zimmerman, they get Steve Wallace. Go back and look and see what they did just to deal with this man. An 82-year-old man runs a 16.0200 meters. Let's check out the video, Ojo. Let's go, boy. Let's go. He's rolling. Hey, do me a favor now. Do me a favor.

Like, I'm not trying to be funny. Even at 57 right now, me at 57 right now, I'm still faster than 87% of the NFL. And they in their 20s. Don't do me like that. That man dust you. What? That man kick dust up in your face. Oh, man, please, man. Shannon, you saying that O2 slow down?

That man, what, he 80? He's not slow. That 82-year-old. If you let that man beat you, I'll diss on you. Man, listen. Man, listen. Or whatever you bet. Never talk.

Nah, listen. I give, I'm not sure who that is. Listen, congratulations being able to run a 16, 16, whatever in 100 meters. I give him 30 meters and come get him. Are you crazy?

I give him 30 meters and come get him. Don't joke. I'm like that. Don't joke. You can't give him five meters and come get him. Man, stop. Five. that. Ocho. You can't get five minutes and come get him. Man, stop.

Stop. Five. Don't be disrespectful. I got five on it. He can beat you. Hey, Shannon. I take that bet. Huh?

I like that. I Ocho go get him. I Ocho go get him. Hey, he can beat you. Oh, yeah. He got me. I ain't ran it 16 years. Yeah, he get up. Oh, yeah, he got me. I ain't ran in 16 years. Yeah, he get me.

Absolutely. Yeah. Hell, that ain't 90-year-old number to get me. Yeah. Ain't no shame in my... Hey, y'all about to get me out there to pull my hamstring at 57, bear on key leaves, or blow somebody. Nah, I'm good.

I done ran my last race. You hit me. You ain't told me to talk about going right. I said, man, y'all crazy. Y'all want me to be lippin' for the next year? I ain't dealin' with nothin'. I don't go with nobody. No.

Hey, GP, y'all play no basketball? Y'all hoop at all no more? Absolutely not. Okay, my man. I'm out there, man. I'm banging them. If it's two seconds or three seconds, I'm... Coach now, I show up, tell me I might run like two, three seconds, and I'm done.

I ain't doing none of that. I ain't doing none of that. Okay, okay. I was going to see if you wanted to play one-on-one, because that got me a nice little hit list. Absolutely not. That got me a nice little hit list. You're going to keep watching them Googles. Google me. Google me, baby. Google me. You ain't getting nothing from me. Google me.

You said me. Get me when it was that time. You said me. I tell them all, hey, Shannon, I do like this, man. Look here, man. In my day, it was 30 teams. There was 29 of them jerseys that you can go get. If you would have got one of them, I would have gave it to you every day. You know what I'm saying? I ain't giving you nothing.

No. I ain't got that for you. All right, we're we gonna get y'all we gonna get out of here on this now it's time for our final segment of the evening it's time for Q and A

that was a good one bro that nigga said Google me 10-1-7 boogie Luca Chalupa Bazooka Wolves in fire

run it back said Lakers in eight. In eight? How many guys? That's going to be next year, too. True Ember for 73, Austin Reeves, Mac and Cheese, Striptease, Lakers in Cancun. They on you, Uncle. Lady Ray, Cocker Spaniel, Randall McDaniel, Jay McDaniels

wolves in fire LeBron legs, Bionic legs turkey legs wolves in fire y'all laughing now but we got something for you King K.O. 2.0 full moon, afternoon

Lakers going to Cancun Wolves in five Big dollar 201 Demi Wolf Werewolf, Timberwolf Don't matter Lakers in seven There you go, that's what I'm talking about right there

There you go Adav Smith messed up not resting his starters, but the Wolves are a better team. Series is over. Laker can't play no better than that. Adab, I don't think they can play any better than that, but maybe they can play defense better than that. Pat Dubb, GP, when you were playing in Miami,

did you really scratch Pat Riley's plays because you didn't feel like running them? I didn't. I didn't run nothing. I wasn't listening to nobody. I was the only one on the team that didn't feel like running them. I didn't. I didn't run nothing. I wasn't listening to nobody. I was the only one on the team. Look at him. When he let me take over that basketball team

and talk to all the players, I went to Shaq and I said, Shaq, look at him. We got a young cooter down here, man. Let that boy do what he got to do. And look what happened. We won a championship, man. We ain't listening to all that, man.

We got a championship. Pat knew what it was missing all that, man. We got a championship. Pat knew what it was. He let me do what I got to do. We won a championship, and that was all. Jason Bourne said, Glove, what were you and Malone barking at each other during the 2000 playoffs? Your cousin from Richmond. We all played Utah.

We all played Utah. Y'all play Utah? Will y'all play Utah? Y'all play Utah that year? Or I'll play... The GP pros. We'll come back. We're asking that. Just there, Uncle Nocho and GP. Hey, GP, I don't know how much

about players from the older NBA. Is there any guards that. Just to say, Uncle Nocho and GP, hey, GP, I don't know how much about players from the older NBA. Is there any guards from the 80s and 90s that you played like you? Thanks. He froze again, right? GP on that AOL, that dial-up.

OUSS 2004. Uncle Nocho moving away from what happened is there any truth okay okay he's like you and Malone

barking at each other during the 2000 playoffs your cousin from Richmond no we was just barking with him man you know calling my boy you know what I'm saying

I ain't gonna back down from nobody he say something crazy I'm gonna say something back to him man we just doing what we do I told him I was going to bust his a-a-a, and he

said he was going to get back at me, so I said it is what it is. It is what it is. Yeah. GP say, I don't know much about the players from older NBA. Is there any guards from the 80s and 90s that played like you? Thanks.

Ain't nobody played like me. I'm only the original one. I was a two-way guard. I was a big guard. It was all good. If we're going to say this year, during this era, I'd say Drew Holiday played just like me.

You know what I mean? He could score. He played on the defensive end. He was one of them dudes. But in my era, nobody played like me. But you know what, GP? I will say this.

In the 80s and 90s, all them guards posted your ass up. Except John Stockton. Yeah, yeah. But you know what? But, Sam, I was the big guard. You remember? I was the one that hit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Then they started putting Mitch Richmond on me with his big old strong butt. And I was getting all bad during that time. And I had to start spitting off on me. And then they put this on me. He was too big, but it was good, man. I used to like going to every arena because we had a guard that could

deal with each other. We had a guard on every team that was really, really good. OUSS2004 Uncle Ocho Moving away from basketball Is there any truth To Shador answering

FaceTime calls During the draft process Interviews A former GM Said this today Man they just Why they making up this stuff man Players don't even have

Their phone in them In them meetings man When they doing that man All this bullshit No man You don't even have your phone When you go in the meeting, man, when they're doing that, man. All this bullshit. No, man. You don't even have your phone when you go in the meeting rooms. No. Florence said,

do you prefer quarterback 7 or 18? GP, could James Harrison make Ocho tap out? I play with 7, so I appreciate what Peyton came to do and I appreciate I love Peyton, but I ain't taking nobody over 7. Yeah, James is going to make Ocho tap out. I appreciate it. I love Peyton, but I ain't taking nobody over seven. Yeah, James

is going to make Ocho tap out. I'm going to beat James Harrison's ass, man. Don't play me, man. Don't play me, man. I'm on whatever you're on, man. I'm going with Chad. That's my running back, baby. He'll keep him, man. I'm good with him.

I'll put my little bit of money left, a little bit of money on James Harrison you see you want me to pay you back but then you do stuff like this I gotta put a bounty out on your head you hate my money you hate my money that's fine

I'm gonna let James knock his ass out then I'm gonna go in his pockets and get my money oh you talking about my money on the karate tag knock you out I'm going to go in his pockets and get my money. All right. Oh, you're talking about my money. Listen. Oh, the karate tag, man. Knock you out, man, and then call the spots and tell them I'm dead. I'm dead. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy said, oh, you ever notice when someone owe you money, every word they say is, huh?

How was your day? Huh? What did you eat for lunch? Where is my money? Yeah, that's Ocho. Oh, man. Oh, my goodness. Yeah.

He owe me $5,980 American dollars. Yeah, yeah. And listen, you know, time's hard in this economy, boy. I'm going to get it to you. I'm going to get it to you. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know me. I'm your favorite uncle. My partner. My co-host.

Liberty City's own. Being a ring of fame. I'm going to read the pro bowler. That's Chad Ochocico Johnson. And joining us tonight for Basketball Topic. And we threw a little football in there. The Oregon State Beaver. Seattle Supersonic. Great. His jersey is retired. Hey. If Seattle come back and they get a team, Oregon State Beaver. Seattle Supersonic, great.

His jersey is retired. Hey, if Seattle come back and they get a team, and if somebody come and say, hey, GP, let me get that number 20, what's up? Man, they crazy as heck. Man, I ain't even put it. You ain't going to even try to get it on my number, man. That's over. You know what I'm saying?

I mean, no, you ain't getting it. No, go somewhere else. You know what I'm saying? I ain't doing that. I, go somewhere else. You know what I'm saying? I ain't doing that. I'm going to put you on this. Super Sonic, great. Miami, he won a chip with the heat. Won a gold medal.

One of the 75th greatest players in NBA history. GP, Gary Payton. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah, you went 96th and 2000, right? Man, I got two of them things, Shannon. I got two of them medals, man. You know what I'm saying, man? I got two of them things. Two-time gold medal winner, NBA champ, Gary Payton.

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