Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Steelers choose Russell Wilson, Bill Belichick BLASTS Jets

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the hottest stories from week 6 of the NFL season including the Pittsburgh Steelers QB Russell Wilson taking 1st-team reps, Bill Belichick crushin...g the New York Jets for firing Robert Saleh, and much more!03:52 - Raiders need to tank05:37 - Bears cook Jaguars10:00 - Cowboys aren't good19:30 - Drew Brees over Tom Brady?23:31 - Drake Maye's high school sweetheart27:58 - Bill Belichick blasts Jets33:00 - Russell Wilson is back(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:39 with number one overall draft pick Joe Burrow. He beat him. He went head-to-head with number one overall draft pick Kyler Murrayrow. He beat him. He went head-to-head with number one overall draft pick, Kyler Murray. He beat him. He lost to Lamar. But look, he ain't got nothing to hold his head down because he played well. He played well. Lamar is just Lamar.
Starting point is 00:03:56 He's just Lamar. And so, like, hey, maybe next time. But the Ravens, with that offense, when they can run the football like they can run it and they can throw it, Lamar is dealing like he's dealing, they're going to be awful difficult to beat Ochoa. So basically what you're saying is you're tanking the whole season in Las Vegas and you're starting over from scratch.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Yep. With the possibility of getting Shadur Sanders and I'm going to have the Lions draft pick. You know what? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. But, hey, you cooking, huh? You cooking. Okay, you cooking. I like what? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. But hey, you cooking, huh? You cooking. Okay, you cooking. I like
Starting point is 00:04:27 what you're putting down and I'm finna pick it up. I like that. Ooh, that's a good one. Uh-huh, see? So Crosby, Crosby, Crosby to the Lions.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Raiders ain't going nowhere. Hey, what? First round draft pick? Crosby worth Crosby, Crosby to the Lions Raiders ain't going nowhere first round draft pick, Crosby worth the first right they probably for a second I would trade the first because I know where I'm going to be picking, it's going to be way down can you imagine that Aiden Hutchinson going down and Matt Crosby coming in
Starting point is 00:05:02 and picking up right where Aiden left off right going down and Matt Crosby coming in and picking up right where Aiden left off? Right. Man, complete hellraiser. He's a hellraiser. He's disruptive. But what would happen next year when Aiden comes back, though? I put his ass on the other side. Hey, other side. I'll worry about that next year.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Let me worry about that next year. I'm going to sue, let me worry about that next year. Hey, you worried about, you worried about too much right now. That's a good one though. I like that. Just fire sale. But then how you think
Starting point is 00:05:34 that make the players that are on the Raiders field, man, about you just saying, you know what, okay, we give up. We call it this season. We done. We done.
Starting point is 00:05:44 We don't have a chance to compete. We don't have a chance to compete. We don't have a chance to win. So we're going to make some moves. They don't, and they should. Bears beat the Jags in London. The Bears are 4-2 after beating 1-3 Titans, 1-4 Rams, 1-4 Panthers, 1-5 Jags. Are the Bears contenders, or they're just beating on them beating up on not
Starting point is 00:06:05 particularly good teams they're not beating on they're not beating up they're beating up on bad teams but i think it's good for them it's good for the morale of the team it's good for caleb williams to get himself in rhythm you know um i think to help his confidence as his confidence continues to grow it's not to matter who they plan. He's always going to be consistent. The fact that if we can get a consistent Caleb Williams week in and week out and not turn the ball over and always give your team a chance to win, man, he's going to be one of them boys because he has all the intangible.
Starting point is 00:06:39 He has all the tools to be just like a Jaden Daniels, just like a CJ Stroud. He was drafted number one to change that franchise around. And he has the ability to do that despite the inconsistencies that we saw in the preseason and a little bit earlier in the season since it started. But he looked pretty good today. I have one question, and I have a question for the chat too, for those that are watching.
Starting point is 00:07:03 How long are we going to give Trevor Lawrence a pass I mean god damn I mean shit man he been bad he been real bad
Starting point is 00:07:20 he making 55 a year dude that's a lot what the point of making that kind of money He making $55 a year. Dude, that's a lot, boy. The point of making that kind of money is I'm saying, I know you have to touch the ball all the time, and we feel you give us our best chance to win consistently every time we put the ball in your hands. And that is not what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And he got some weapons. Some good ones. He got Christian Kirk. He got Gabe Davis. He got Evan Ingram. Some good ones. He got some weapons. They got ATN and Big Lee in the backfield.
Starting point is 00:07:56 ATN is hurt right now, but. Yeah, but there's no reason for him to be playing as bad as he's playing that's the problem um yeah at some point in time we got to hold him accountable we hold everybody accountable we don't we don't make excuses right either you're doing it or you're not. Now, we gave you a pass the first year because Urban was there. I'm not so sure that Urban's style works in the NFL. But, hey, we gave you a pass for that one.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And you get Doug Peterson, and the first year was kind of okay. But, bro, bro, right now. Wait, what kind? Kind of look like what? He's looking like a stir fry. A stir fry? He ain't looking good, Ocho. He ain't looking good. And you look at this.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Since the realignment in 2002, you got four teams all above 500. And with four wins. No team, I don't think any division has had that since 2002. 5-0 Minnesota, 4-1 Detroit, 4-2 Green Bay, 4-2 Chicago. Damn, man. Yeah. And, yeah, Trevor Lawrence, he has to play better. I mean, it's stillars that he has to play better i mean it's still early he has to play better it's still early in the season he's just not playing well right now now if this continues
Starting point is 00:09:34 i'm sure he's he's the type of player based on what i've seen in the past huh you remember he dropped off a cliff last year oh yeah he did he did he dropped off a cliff last year i think they lost their last what last four last five games yeah they were the number one seed in the whole afc and then dropped the last four that confidence that confidence oh man i mean i'm not even gonna mention that because you the the starter, he don't have nobody peeping over his shoulder. He's already gotten paid now. So his leash is up. Listen, they ain't put no Mac Jones in there,
Starting point is 00:10:12 and they just paid Young Bull before the season started. Or was that last year he got paid? No, that was this offseason. Yeah, he ain't got nothing to worry about right now. Too much money. Too much money to put on the bench. Well, Chad, anyway, like I was saying, I don't think that you look at it, you think about all the other teams that unk just name
Starting point is 00:10:33 and look at the weaponry that they have at their disposal. I think the Cowboys have some good players. They don't have that oomph. You know, you got CeeDee, and you need something else that that really that commands that kind of, you know, that kind of attention that. That kind of alleviates the pressure off of that, alleviates some of the pressure off of CD. It's hard to explain, but most of the teams do have that. Shit, I don't know how to say it. I'm trying to say it without being disrespectful to the players that are there.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I mean, they're good, you know, it's OK, but there's levels and there's different how to say it. I'm trying to say it without being disrespectful to the players that are there. I mean, they're good. You know, it's okay. But there's levels and there's different tiers to this shit. And I think that's what the Cowboys might be missing a little bit, especially offensively. Because if your defense is bad, your identity has to be somewhere. Your identity got to be somewhere. Either your identity is on offense or your identity is on fucking defense. It can't be on both sides of the ball. If your defense is bad, that means your offense has to be just that much better.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And they just need more. They just need more. That's it. And we need Jerry to sit down. And I'm talking about we because I feel bad for the Cowboys fans. Hell, I feel bad for the Cowboys players. You know?
Starting point is 00:11:44 Now I understand what Suge Knight was talking about. That same speech he gave at whatever the war show that was, is pertaining to Jerry. Same thing. Same thing. Let us play. Let the coaches coach.
Starting point is 00:12:02 A great team, somebody say, Ocho, a great team needs both sides no it doesn't a great team doesn't need both sides and you'll never get that you'll never get that a team is always lopsided even the team that have won Super Bowls it's always lopsided at some point somewhere you can't have a great defense and a great offense that's like impossible you think about the Ravens when they won the Super Bowl. Defense let up 10 points the entire game.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Yeah, a game. You're better at explaining it to me or to them as opposed to someone saying you need a great team on both sides of the ball to win. No. Bingo.
Starting point is 00:12:45 You need to play complimentary football. Because I think the mark of any good team, Ocho, is can you get done what you need to get done when you absolutely have to. Go back and look at the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Look how they played bad all last year. But in the playoffs, when they needed to get a key third down, what did they do? They got it. When they needed to get a stop,
Starting point is 00:13:06 the defense was consistent all year. But when they needed to get a key third down, what did they do? They got it. When they needed to get a stop, the defense was consistent all year. But when they needed to get off the field, they got off the field. When they needed to force a turnover, when Zay Flowers was about to get the ball, what did his knee do? Punch it out, they get on it. So you need to be able to play complementary football. You need to be really good in
Starting point is 00:13:21 two or three phases. But at the other phase, can you complement that? Can you get timely turnovers? Can you get a timely third down? Can your punter pin him down? Can your kicker make a big kick? Dallas has a kicker that has a cannon for a leg. I mean, he's damn near automatic.
Starting point is 00:13:43 But they're so bad on both sides, on the other side, offensively and defensively. They can't look at that. They couldn't protect him. The best, I mean, Hutchinson, hopefully he can make a comeback next year because he had a compound tibia fibula. Yeah. And you see that injury a lot of times, Ocho, in MMA.
Starting point is 00:14:05 When they kick and the guy checks him. Yeah. And you see that injury a lot of times, Ocho, in MMA. When they kick and the guy checks him, we saw Anderson Silver break his leg like that. I think we saw Rockwell break his leg. Break his leg like that. It might not have been the same thing, but his ankle snapped in half. He kicked. Remember he went back to step and it
Starting point is 00:14:21 snapped in half? Yeah. And the guy checks it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've seen that. We see Anderson Silver broke his leg. I think Anderson Silver did that.
Starting point is 00:14:32 We've seen a loop. Was it Rockhold? One of those, another guy. Who was it? Made for this mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma,
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Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah. Chris Weidman. Chris Weidman. That's what it was. Chris Weidman. Kick. Guy checked him. Snaps it in half. He's making a play. Ocho. That's what it was. Chris Weidman. Kick. Guy checked him. Snaps it in half.
Starting point is 00:19:25 He's making a play. Ocho. His leg whips around. We saw RG3. His leg whipped like that, but he tore everything in his knee. He has later like a compound fracture. So hopefully he gets back next year because he was having an unbelievable season. They couldn't block him.
Starting point is 00:19:44 They did a great job of stunning. gets back next year because he was having an unbelievable season. They couldn't block him. They did a great job of stunning. And the offensive line, though, Joe, is not what it once was. We were saying when D-Hop was a free agent, that's when I thought the Chiefs would go after him. But what the Chiefs had on the table versus what Tennessee had on the table was two different. I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I'm saying had D-Hop, if the numbers were comparable, 12 million versus 15-16, with a chance to win and have Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid calling plays, Patrick Mahomes throwing me the ball versus Tennessee and Will Levis or Malik Willis, well, it seems like it's a no-brainer to me considering D-Hoff is
Starting point is 00:20:26 probably made north of $100 million. But hey, I don't count no man's pockets. He wants to take the money. I get it. But I don't know if Kansas City had a comparable offer on the table. But Ocho, Tony Brown Jr. says
Starting point is 00:20:41 Daniel Jones is officially a part of the ski mask all-time. That's a good Jones is officially a part of the Ski Mask All-Star. That's a good one. Look at Ocho. He's stealing money. Ski Mask All-Star. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:20:52 I like that. Hey. Yeah. The timing was impeccable. The timing was impeccable for him to get paid, though. He got the ski mask on. Timing was impeccable. There was no quarterback.
Starting point is 00:21:03 There was nowhere else for him to go. They had no choice. Their hands were behind their back. What else were they going to do? Easy. But you know, listen, you got to understand the value of the position.
Starting point is 00:21:18 That's all it was. The value of the position. Oh, absolutely. Is Darren Henry providing value? Absolutely. That was a good one. Absolutely. Because at the end of the day, look at Christian McCaffrey.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yeah. Is he value? Oh, yeah. You come out better with Saquon and a lesser tier quarterback that doesn't make the mistakes that Daniel Jones. You're not winning anything with Daniel Jones. You're just not, Ocho. You're not.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And I think a lot of people believe, know, that if David Cutcliffe was not Daniel Jones' head coach, offensive coordinator, he ain't going where he's going. But he coached Eli. He coached Peyton. He's probably telling this guy is more athletic than Peyton and Eli combined. It take more than that, though. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Cam Jordan believes that the greatest quarterback of all time is Drew Brees, not Tom Brady. Jordan shared his hot take on Armond St. Brown's podcast saying, Drew Brees is the best quarterback of all time. There's nobody who has the completion percentage that Drew has. There's nobody that has the most 5,000-yard season that Drew has. It took Tom Brady an extra two years to break Bree's record. If you're talking about accomplishments, yes, Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:22:53 But if you want to look at stats, pat your stats. Okay, put your stats because Drew got those. When he left, there were so many records, so many that he owned. Now after Tom retired, Tom Brady played another two years and broke most of them, I believe. I like the argument. I like the argument. You taking Drew over Peyton?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Hell no. I mean, listen, I love the argument. This is Cam Jordan. He's going to take up for his quarterback. I like the argument. Then we talk about Drew B. Still one of the best. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:27 One of the best all time. No matter what. But now we're comparing him to the greatest of all time. So now you got a little bit too much dip on your chip. Cam, I love you. I love you. I love you. I love how you can find ways to try to put your quarterback
Starting point is 00:23:46 in shed of light to where you feel he's better than Tom Brady. But that's just not the case, no matter how you try to splice it. No matter what numbers you use, no matter what percentages you may use, Tom Brady's the best to ever play. I don't know if there's ever going to be a situation where Right. Boulders people
Starting point is 00:24:11 put Drew over Tom Wood. If it's about Boulders people, who else would? Now I'm just saying, I don't see a scenario where, you know, you're like And it's not a bad thing. We're talking about Drew. Drew's still one of the best of all time. No.
Starting point is 00:24:29 But then you're comparing him to the greatest of all time. Yes, I agree. So then there's a little bit of disconnect. Your Wi-Fi, it ain't got all the goddamn bars. Right. Right. I agree. But I think... Had... Right. right i agree but i i think had right and you look at drew's completion percentage you look
Starting point is 00:24:50 at those 5 000 yard season yeah had he had more super bowl appearances now we can have an argument he has to he has an mvp now we can have an argument. But with one Super Bowl appearance, one Super Bowl MVP, yeah, I don't know how we get there, Ocho. And he had, like I said, the completion percentage, I think when he completes 70% of his passes, he had four, five, 5,000-yard seasons. And, you know, yeah, he did have, what, passing yards. I think he might have had the touchdown record.
Starting point is 00:25:27 But you needed a few more. I mean, let's just say he has three or he has two or three. Let's just say he has two Super Bowls, three MVPs. I was like, okay. I don't think he quite did that, Ocho, but I can see what people say. It's kind of like Tom has seven Super Bowls, five Super Bowl MVPs. He has five, yeah, five. And three regular season MVPs.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Peyton has five regular season MVPs, two Super Bowl appearances with two different teams, and a Super Bowl MVP. But he has four appearances. So he went two with the Colts, two with the Broncos. So you're like, okay. I think Drew
Starting point is 00:26:21 would need something like that in order. Would need something like that. But I get looked. Yeah, always. That's your teammate. I got to rock my teammate. Because they ask me, well, who do you want to be your quarterback, John?
Starting point is 00:26:39 Man, why do you say it? Because I got Super Bowls with John and I got a gold jacket with John. Right. I mean, what y'all want me to say? The Patriots rookie Drake May and his girlfriend, Anna Michael Hudson, started dating when they were 12 years old. Ten years later, they're still dating. Ocho, do you remember your girlfriend from when you were 12 years old?
Starting point is 00:27:00 Remember, I told a story. I told a story. I thought she was my girl at the time. I let her get my crayons out of my 64 crayon box. I let her get the red shades and I went to PE and she was playing with somebody else at PE. I thought she was my girl at the time. I think probably if she was loyal during those days,
Starting point is 00:27:28 we would probably still be together today. No, I think we would because I loved her. I don't think you understand the importance of having a 64 box of Crayola crayons back in them days. That was like having a Ferrari or a Lamborghini for us as kids. 64 box of Crayola crayons?
Starting point is 00:27:51 I gave you three of my red color shades, three different shades of red. I let you use them because you need to use them. When you go to PE, you playing with Timothy. Well, Timothy said he needed a shade of red. Hey, boy, after that,
Starting point is 00:28:09 when they came back to class, I took my goddamn crayons back. I ain't speak to everybody. I ain't speak to everybody in about two months. Don't even look my way, you ugly lad. That's okay. That's all right. Timothy was talking to her. Timothy couldn't do nothing
Starting point is 00:28:25 because he had a he only had a pack of crayons yeah his parents didn't give him the 64 box so that's the same as you just talked about that message about 80 20 she left she left the 80 for the 20 yeah but guess what said, you know what? Timothy said, I got eight pack and her, you got 64 pack and nothing. I take eight pack of her. Hey, listen.
Starting point is 00:28:54 One thing about it, if she did it to me, she gonna do it to you. That's okay. I'm trying to think. Twelve?'t get don't give me don't give me the line uh eight seven seven eight don't give me the line probably seventh grade yeah i ain't saying nothing because i already told you my casket gonna wear a lot because i'm taking a lot of ish to my grave. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:25 I just want y'all to know, I'm going to need some strong brothers. I'm going to need six of the strongest brothers y'all got because my casket is going to be extra heavy, Ocho. I'm taking ish to my grave. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify.
Starting point is 00:29:56 The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold,
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Starting point is 00:31:32 in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.
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Starting point is 00:33:49 As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. Oh, Joe, count former head coach, six-time Super Bowl winning head coach, Bill Belichick, among those who are confused with the just decision to fire coach Robert Sala after just five games. It is a little bit puzzling. It is what it is, and everybody has
Starting point is 00:34:28 to move forward. It's an owner's prerogative to make that decision, and clearly, that's what he decided to do. But there have been a lot of things that have been kind of confusing. It hasn't been a great situation for the Jets this year. You can kind of feel that this has been kind of a chill. And Woody Johnson know damn well that wasn't his goddamn
Starting point is 00:34:44 call. Come on now. The Jets are 2-3. We all know. Listen, they both had a book. Robert Sala had a book, and Aaron Rodgers had a book. Neither one of them was on the same page. We know that. We can see the body language, the mannerisms.
Starting point is 00:34:58 They weren't on the same page. When they did the press conference talking about the cadence, they weren't on the same page. A quarterback and head coach are always on the same page at all times. They did not get along. Aaron Rodgers needs to take accountability, which he has done, for his play. The Jets are 2-3 right now. The goddamn Jets was 2-3 with Zach Wilson last year at the same time,
Starting point is 00:35:20 at the week five point. Yeah, hold on. Stay with me now. I know you want to jump on me by that, but I'm just saying. So, hey, based off that, you might as well have stuck with Zach. Aaron Rodgers has to play better.
Starting point is 00:35:34 The defense is playing well. They're playing okay. I'm not saying they're playing lights out like they were last year, but it is early in the season. I'm sure they're going to get better as the season goes on. But we need a little bit more
Starting point is 00:35:44 of the Aaron Rodgers of old. That on. But we need a little bit more of the Aaron Rodgers of old. That's it. We need a little bit more. The mistakes. Yeah. The interceptions. You can't do it. You're killing your team.
Starting point is 00:35:55 You're killing your team. When has he gotten along with any coaches? I don't know. You know what's funny? When I think about it, this is the first time I've seen him outside of Green Bay, and I'm not sure if him and Matt LaFleur didn't get along. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Oh, you really? When he went on there and told that, when he let Matt LaFleur kick the field goal on fourth down, and he said, oh, and the tirade, what he had on the sideline, you thought he got along with Matt LaFleur kick the field goal on fourth down? And he said, oh, and the tirade, what he had on the sideline, you thought he got along with Matt LaFleur? But I saw Salah try to hug him after throwing a touchdown and push him off and give him that look. And I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:36:35 Oh, he don't like him. Oh, he definitely don't like him. I knew there was a lack of respect for his coach. But I thought. Let me skip that goddamn minicamp why are we making a big deal about that all I know is the people told me that was not a big deal
Starting point is 00:36:54 your ass would have got cut your ass would have got cut hold on what happened to the problem with the minicamp mandatory minicamp. Go ahead. Mandatory minicamp. Mandatory? Come on, now.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Stay with me. All right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm just listening. I'm just throwing it out there for a little bit of context. Just a little bit of context and understanding. I don't need no context. I've been saying it.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Oh, Shannon, you hate that man. You hate that man. When I've been one of Estancia's defenders, his ability to throw the football is unquestioned. I question some of the things that he does that are not conducive to winning and leadership. You cannot have that guy on a mandatory minicamp unless it is an absolute emergency.
Starting point is 00:37:48 You go into Egypt. I mean, what are you, a dignitary? You trying to bring peace to the Middle East? We can say, is he a what? That's the only reason I will excuse that. If he's a dignitary, yes. If he can bring peace to the Middle East, by all means, go. Take as much time as you need
Starting point is 00:38:06 but mandatory means that is required volunteer means you volunteer if you come if you want to it's just like when you volunteer to do charity work you volunteered now if you do something they will uh the just the criminal justice system will demand you do community service you see you see how they do that he's required hired to do 50 hours 100 hours community service oh she had a volunteer that goodwill she had a volunteer that at the homeless mission you see the difference but everybody made excuses see what y'all – this is what I was like, fans. Y'all make excuses. When O'Shea – I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Let me take that back, Coach. I'm sorry. It's the messenger. Y'all ain't got no – it's the messenger that's giving you the message. Because had Coach Belichick, had anybody else said exactly what I've been saying, nobody would have had a problem with it. But it's because O'Shea said it. And y'all don't like when Shea be right.
Starting point is 00:39:05 And I don't want to pat myself on the back. But Mary Porter once told me, said, boy, you got two good hands. You don't need nobody to pat you on the damn back. Pat yourself on the back. I've been trying to tell y'all for the longest. Y'all see what y'all want to do. Y'all try to see what a lot of times what they'll try to do, Ocho, is that they'll try to undercut you
Starting point is 00:39:22 and try to make it about something else. Yeah. That's what they try to do. But y'all can't fool O'Shea because I've been in the locker room. I've been a leader in locker rooms. Well, Sheldon, you ain't in that locker room. And then when it comes out,
Starting point is 00:39:36 oh, oh, oh, no, no. When I said that, it wasn't a problem. It was a problem. Now, what's being said everywhere. You know what? It's always a head coach always needs
Starting point is 00:39:51 this quarterback, not just as a leader, but to actually lead by example. He got to be the one to buy in. If he doesn't buy in, then everything else is fragmented. Everything else is fragmented. Everything else is fragmented. That's why the quarterback position is so important
Starting point is 00:40:09 and him doing all the right things because as he goes, everybody else goes. Oh, Joe, Russell Wilson is optimistic about potentially playing on Sunday for the first time during the 2024 season. I feel confident that I'd be ready to play and ready to play at a high level. I think we're being really smart, too, and trying to understand how it feels. It's my first week really back with the guys, and I feel really confident about that.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Mike Tomlin said earlier in the week that there are multiple variables. He's weighed the decision throughout the week of practice, but the door is ajar, which means ajar, Ocho, which means slightly open. Wilson to be active on Sunday. You always want me to use the word in the sentence.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Russ, I've played a lot of football games, and there have been a lot of moments. I don't fear them. Get ready to go back. I like Russ getting the opportunity to play. I know Justin Fields has played somewhat good this year. They started 3-0. only lost the last two. But offensively, it's not like they've been this awesome juggernaut of an offense that's top three in the NFL, putting up outstanding,
Starting point is 00:41:15 crazy numbers, where a change in the quarterback position would really affect the Steelers. Again, I like Russell Wilson. My personal preference, even though I'm not a Steeler fan, for that offense, based on his resume, his last year endeavor was not that bad. Chad, if you look at the stats, you look at his numbers, his last year endeavor, it wasn't that bad. It was good. It was decent. Maybe not the rush that led the goddamn Seahawks to the Super Bowl, but if we can get a Russ of old, anywhere near the Russ of old, where you don't turn the ball over and you just do what we ask of you and not
Starting point is 00:41:52 put the ball in the hands of the other team, they will be just fine. They will be just fine. And get George picking the goddamn ball. Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see what okay, and get George Pickens the goddamn ball. It's going to be interesting to see what...
Starting point is 00:42:06 Okay, well, since you go there, speaking for the first time since Sunday night lost to the Cowboys, George Pickens just misquested about his explicit message on his eye black in the postgame incident with Jordan Lewis. Pickens wore eye black that read open effing always for the game.
Starting point is 00:42:24 And after the game ended ended failed hook and lateral attempt pickens yanked down lewis by his face mask as lewis ran by him and appeared to say something pickens said he was unaware of the policy never seen it before he said have you seen it before yes when it was pointed out that cameron hayward had been fined in 2015 for writing on his late father's name when his eye black. Pickens was dismissive. Years ago, he said, when I wasn't in the league, so nah. And asked what happened with Lewis after the game.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Pickens said, nothing. Hey, it wasn't nothing. Little big deal. You know, Lewis went by him, you know, talking to the trash. He snatched him up real quick by the face mask. You know, sometimes people, you know, they like to step on your toe because they know you really can't do nothing. So I ain't do nothing, you know, too bad to him.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Just, man, stop playing with me, man. But, you know, I didn't know that either. You heard the eye black thing? It's not something that I would do, but the curse, I never knew that. Is much cursing be going on out there, boy? When we playing? I didn't know that. Is much cursing be going on out there, boy? When we playing? I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:43:27 You can curse, but you can't display it. I didn't get a chance to see it. Sometimes. Lord have mercy. Sometimes I wanted these kids. I'm like, bro, y'all graduated high school and went to college. Yeah, yeah. Bro, you know the NFL ain't letting you write nothing on no eye black.
Starting point is 00:43:54 They don't let you write no thing or nothing. How did I think about it? How the hell, if I did something or I was dressed, my dress code was inappropriate, you know the NFL officers would call down and tell me, even in-game, they would come to me on the sideline and tell me to change it. Remember the long streamer towels y'all used to wear in college? I would wear streamer towels, not the NFL-issue towel. I had a long towel.
Starting point is 00:44:18 I cut the towel in the bathroom. Yeah, man. You got to be regular. You got to be about this low. That's how the NFL tower about that low. You can't have that thing. Remember when I used to put on
Starting point is 00:44:29 the black chin strap or the orange chin strap? Man, they called on that. Yeah. Man, tell Ocho, man. It had to be white. So I'm surprised they didn't even let him
Starting point is 00:44:38 play the whole game with the damn eye black. Yeah. Well, yeah, I think you're right. You're right. I right i think the thing is ocho is that when you look at it is that yeah not to do it you would think a person would be smart enough not to use an explicit on it that that i mean come on bro the volume the made for this mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain.
Starting point is 00:45:18 You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there,
Starting point is 00:45:54 and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
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