Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Stephen A. Smith, Sterling Sharpe HOF, Jayden Daniels ROTY

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

From Radio Row and the Mahalia Jackson Theater in New Orleans, Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson recap the best moments from Super Bowl week. Top stories include Stephen A. Smith joins, Unc's brother, Sterling Sharpe, is officially elected to the NFL Hall of Fame, ROTY Jayden Daniels recaps his rookie season with the Washington Commanders and more!03:48 - Matt Patricia joins the show10:00 - Stephen A Smith predicted Eagles win16:10 - Sterling and Shannon Sharpe rejoice over Hall of Fame induction35:23 - Unc and Ocho put on a masterclass for Michael Pittman Jr.42:35 - Jayden Daniels recaps his rookie season46:16 - Fred Warner talks next steps for the 49ers(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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God, coach drawing him like Wally Oskar. Coach, you all right? Hey, coach. How we doing? Doing good, coach. It's good to see you. You're? Hey, Cole. How we doing? Doing good, Coach. It's good to see you. You're looking great, man. Thanks. Trying.

Great. I had to get all that off. You look good. Thank you. You look darn good. Go ahead. You can take it off, Ty. Go ahead.

You want to start it off? You want me? Well, you look good. You did zombies. Let's talk about zombies. Yeah. Cole, I mean, what's really going on? Yeah. Just mean, what's really going on? Yeah.

Just an interesting year. You know, kind of Coach Belichick and I doing a little coaching on YouTube, which was fun. Right.

Wrote a TV show that, you know, that we got to get out and kind of do some fundamentals, all that stuff that we like to talk about.

So, you know, it was a lot of fun. I got to see Chad every week, which is great. Get his McDonald's every single day and make sure we get you fed. Right. Absolutely. Coach, what's what's next as far as coaching is concerned? Is there anything that you'd like to do? Is there anything on the table from a coaching perspective? Yeah. You know, right now I'm kind of just I'm I'm trying to be dad.

You know, I got three kids and I spent last year in Philly and that was great. My family was not with me. And my oldest son, he went from like here to here between Thanksgiving and Christmas. And I was like, I kind of, I need to be home. So, you know, I'm doing this, which is great. You know, get to hang out and talk football, which I love to do. And get to see a lot of people that I haven't seen in a long time, so it's a lot of fun. Coaches at heart. One question before you go.

MVP tonight. Yeah. They gave it to Josh Allen. Yeah. With the numbers and the stats that Lamar Jackson put up this season. Yeah. Your thoughts? You know, I'm going to go the other direction. I'm going Saquon Barkley. MVP? Saquon Barkley.

I mean, this guy was doing stuff i saw i sat with my son and he ran you know defensive guys right so we appreciate this right so he ran and i saw him do a reverse leapfrog over another human like a professional athlete yeah and i looked at my son i said you will never see that again that is the most amazing thing i've ever seen and i think his yeah i, he has been unbelievable, right? And I think everything that he's brought and you guys can appreciate, you guys are great. You guys are, I mean, obviously like I'm humbled to be even sitting with you

guys are unbelievably great players and you all did this on your teams. And we know what great players look like, right? Those are the guys that elevate everyone around them. You know, they're the guys that take good players and make them great players. The guys that are average players and make them good players and bring that team together. And I think he's done that in Philly. I think his humility and his excitement, his general joy that he has to watch his team succeed. I mean, I love it.

I love that. Coach, how do you build trust with a player? Because they say, you know know this is a player's league yeah and the players seemingly are getting younger and younger and that is different i mean you can't coach players like they could in time we talk about this all the time you can't coach players like we got coached when we were in the league and when we were growing up so but how do you build that trust with players yeah you know i kind of look at like i'm on like my fourth generation of nfl player you know my old heads when i coached linebackers was like Teddy Bruschi,

Mike Vrabel, Junior Seau, Willie McGinnis, Roosevelt Colvin, Larry Izzo, Chad Bratt, my room, I'd walk in my room. I wasn't sure if we were going to coach or fight. I didn't know. Cause it was like alpha dog central. But I think the biggest thing that everybody wants, they just, they want to know that you're going to help them get better. They want to know that you're trying to do everything you can to elevate their play and do everything you can to, you know, grow them as young men. And I think that's what we got to do. And, you know, look,

you got to make sure you go in and tell them how much you appreciate them, how much you respect what they do. You know, you guys are different. Like I didn't, I can't play. So I, you know, I can coach, but I'm not in between those white lines, you know, so I need to do everything I can do. And this is what kept me up late to make sure that you can go out and perform your best. And that's why I didn't sleep every week. Cause I was like, there's no way I'm going to let, you know, you go in between those white lines and do everything that you do at an unbelievable level and risk everything that you risk and make sure that I didn't give you every tool possible. I could to make you be successful because I just want to see the joy in your face when you get that done. Right.

Sunday, we got a big game, Super Bowl 59. Yes. You've been around the game of football for a very long time. Yes. Offensive side of the ball, defensive side of the ball. If I'm a bet man, who I put my money on? Yeah. I am Eagles all the way.

I'll say this. So there's two teams right now in NFL Super Bowl history Ooh, I put my money on. Yeah. I am Eagles all the way. I'll say this. So there's two teams right now in NFL Super Bowl history that have had the number one defense and the NFL's leading rusher. Philadelphia has won right now. The other one was the 92 Cowboys, and they won. So, you know, look, defense wins championships. I'm on the couch with the defensive guy, so I'm okay.

But, you know, I think this is where the defense comes through. And, look, Kansas City, Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, like those are guys keeping me up late at night. But I like where Philly's at right now. I like their physicality, the toughness. I think it's going to be a great game. It's going to be a good one. How do you think, Coach, we just presented NFL Coach of the Year together.

How do you think Coach Belichick is going to do at the college level? Well, I'll tell you what, I know North Carolina is excited and I know those kids are excited. I think those kids are going to be coached in a way that, you know, look, he's going to teach, he's going to take the extreme complex and he's going to boil it all the way down into something really simple that they can understand and he's going to pair those guys for the next level, you know, and I think that'll be a tremendous, amazing opportunity for those guys to learn from him.

I just told him when we were just chit-chatting, I said, Coach, I saw that you went on the road and you went to the home visits. I said, you know, I don't do home visits, but he said, I've been on the road for a minute. Yeah. So I just, it's just hard for me to think about Coach Belichick doing home visits with kids in high school. That is crazy. I mean, imagine you're in that home and here comes Coach Belichick

walking through the door. So, you know, that's got to be a great experience for all of them. Coach, thanks for joining us. Yeah. Thanks so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. And now.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm going to the stage Stephen A. Smith I feel like he's a stripper or something the way y'all call him you see the wall you see the wall

that's that money wall what they do baby y'all hire him y'all hire him say Y'all hire him? Say what? I want to be on First Take. We got the people here in front of you, so I want to get us out.

Oh, you've been working out too. My dog's been working. What day? I want to make sure y'all hear this. What day can I join First Take? What day you join First Take? What day? The day I tell you.

Okay, okay, okay. We're getting somewhere. That's enough. Is there anything you want to share? No, not yet. I'm good. Life is good. Life is good.

I can't complain. It's good to see y'all. Thank y'all for coming out with my boys. It don't get no better than what they're doing, and we know what the hell he been doing. So it's all good. I'm in good company tonight. We've been talking about this

and we've been going back and forth. Right. Josh Allen won the MVP. Yep. Lamar Jackson was first team All-Pro quarterback. Yep.

Which is, I'm surprised, I'm shocked that it happened. What are your thoughts? I'm kind of glad Lamar didn't win it. Really? What do you got to add? Let me explain.

It's the setup. That's the setup. You got two league MVPs. Every other individual in NFL history who's had two league MVPs have won the Super Bowl championship. Lamar, if you will be quiet and let me explain, I will make sure you understand my explanation.

What I'm saying is if he had won three, then the heat on him next year would have intensified even more. And we'd highlight his failures more instead of appreciating his greatness more. Josh Allen went winning the MVP. Well, congratulations. Now what you going to do? Because we going to talk about you the same way we talked about Lamar Jackson now.

Because now you are MVP. Where's your chip? And if we're not going to talk about him not having the chip, we can't do that to Lamar Jackson either. That's why. I like it, but I don't love it. I understand it. I like it, but I don't love it. I understand it. I like it, but I don't love it. I understand your philosophy.

I understand how you flip that. Brilliant. That's what I expect from you. But nevertheless, we can't look down the street and condemn a man about what may happen tomorrow and not applaud what he's done today

because that man deserves his flowers right now regardless of what may happen tomorrow and how we think about him he was the most valuable quarterback in the NFL to his team to our league to

his offense am I right or wrong Mr. Stephen A. Smith NFL to his team, to our league, to his offense. Am I right or wrong, Mr. Stephen A. Smith? I'll give that to you, but allow me to retort. We walked into this season and we looked at Baltimore and the acquisition of

Derrick Henry and we said, they're monsters. They're going to win the AFC. We saw Josh Allen. He lost Stephon Diggs. He lost Gabe Davis. He had a rookie wide out in Keon Coleman. He didn't get Amari Cooper until the middle of the season, and he was balling out.

Up until the last week of the season or so, Shannon and I, along with everybody else who was debating who was the MVP, we were leaning towards Lamar Jackson, but it wasn't like we had summarily dismissed Josh Allen because he had played on an elite level and he didn't have as much to work with. So you're absolutely right with what you're saying. If we're able to look at Lamar Jackson and say, there ain't no need to discuss nobody else

because nobody else was even close. But we know that wasn't the case with Josh Allen because of the personnel that he was working with, the absence of expectations, how he had exceeded expectations. And because of that is why I feel the way that I feel. Looking at this game, Kansas City going for an unprecedented three-peat. You got the Philadelphia Eagles that were here just three years ago.

This is the second time they're here in three years. We know what's at stake. We got Saquon, who had an unbelievable season, offensive player of the year. You got Jalen Hurst who played unbelievable had the one turnover uh and they end up losing that ball game if you had to bet your money who do you like in this game on Sunday well you don't bet against Patrick Mahomes you don't bet against Patrick Mahomes however if you want to roll the dice and take chances because there's more money out there to get if you take a risk you look at philly philly collectively is the better team they are you look at and then we talk about saquon barkley 2005 yards russian he's been electrifying. But we didn't mention this enough. Do y'all know

their offensive line averages 6'6", 300 and like 28 pounds? I mean, these brothers plug holes as wide as Broadway on a Sunday morning. If you can do that against Kansas

City's defense, Philadelphia Eagles are going to win the championship. But I think you've got to do that because Patrick Mahomes is on the other side. You're going to have to do that in order to win this game. Hold on.

He really answered the question now. If you were a bad man, who are you putting your money on? I would bet on Philly. I would take a chance to bet on Philly. Okay. But I recognize that I'm taking a chance. But I would still bet on Philly. Right would take a chance to bet on Philly. But I recognize that I'm taking a

chance, but I would still bet on Philly. Look at your brother. Where? Right there. Hey! What they do, Hall of Famer? What? Man. What they do, baby?

You know what? I'm going to see you. No, no, no. Get back to where you were. Yes, my knees bad. No, my knees bad. Thank you very much.

It's been a long day and even longer trying to get here from over there, but thank you for staying. Hopefully we can get here from over there. But thank you for staying. Hopefully we can get you out of here shortly because I got to get up early in the morning again. But a tremendous day. It's an honor and a pleasure to follow that guy for a change. and and being the first brothers

inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Don't you cry up here. Don't do that. I want to know, you have to tell me, tell the people out here understanding and knowing all you've been through, where y'all come from, what it took to make it to the NFL, the struggles having to lead a game early, what this night means to you. It's kind of interesting, Oates, because I never wanted to be in the Hall of Fame. I never wanted to be in the hall of fame. I never expected to be in the hall of fame.

This is not something I asked for. This is not something I wish for. This is not something I prayed for because when I left the game, the only thing anybody ever talked about is what I didn't do. Now I'm okay with that. I am. I'm okay with what I put on film Now I'm okay with that. I am. I'm okay with what I put on film. I'm okay with that. But so I never had any expectations. This is not like Christmas to where, you know, you want a skateboard or you want a bike or you want them pair of Jordans.

This isn't like that. So for me today is kind of interestingly surreal because I didn't want this. This is not something I wished on myself. But, you know, being there and seeing my friends that are in the Hall of Fame that were more excited than seem like I am right now, but they were genuinely happy. My good friend, Terrell Owens, I hope I'm not. I hope I'm not doing anything wrong by putting Terrell's business in the street. But T.O. Crock, T.O. and I go way, way, way back to the before he even got in the league. He was so happy for me that he and I had about a good 45-second moment

to where we just kind of got wrapped up in each other and the history and the time and all that. It's been a really good day, Oach. Let me tell you, I haven't gotten there yet. It's going to take a little more day, Oach. But let me tell you, I haven't gotten there yet. It's going to take a little more time to get there.

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the only man that he's ever hoped to be to measure up to because he knows he couldn't do it and anybody that knows you and anybody that knows him knows how he feels about you me personally you know how much love I've always had for you we need some tissue up here for those of you who might be too young to remember

we religiously talk about Jerry Rice being the greatest receiver in NFL history. Those who know football before T.O., before Randy Moss, we would all mention him because he was that sensational of a wide receiver. He was big time. And so to then watch you transition into the business before your brother did, you did a hell of a job talking the game of football, teaching the game of football, working with cats in the industry

and showing us the way as well and had that pedigree. There's so many people that followed that played in the NFL and now doing television. You were doing it before most and you were doing exceptionally well. And so to me, to see you have this day, thank you.

Thank you. It's well-deserved. And I'm just happy for you. It's long overdue. Thank you. But it's here. Congratulations. Congratulations.

I think the thing is why I get so emotional when people ask why I say, because I had GPS to get to where I'm going because I had to follow him. You see, he did what he did with no navigational system. He had no map quest. He had no Google. He had no instructional manual. I had all of that because I got to walk in his footsteps. A lot of what I learned, almost everything that I learned, I learned from him. My grandfather was very, very hard on my brother. And I didn't understand why until my grandmother said, Barney, why are you so hard on Spanky? That's what we call him. He said, Mary, everything why are you so hard on Spanky? That's what we call him.

He said, Mary, everything that little one is going to learn, he's going to learn it from him. It's his job because we're not going to be around Mary alone. It's his job to teach him how to be a man. It's his job to teach him right from wrong. He's going to follow everything that he does because that's what he sees all the time. For my brother to do what he's done with no guidance, with no instruction manual, to get to where he got, to get me to where I got.

You guys had heard me say, the only man I've ever wanted to be was him. He was my hero. He was my role model. He taught me to shoot a basketball. He taught me to throw a football. He taught me how to catch. He taught me how to tie my shoes.

I'm not the man that's sitting before you today. I watched everything that he did. I hung on everything that he said. And then you heard me tell this story that he's only three years older than I, but he's more like my father. My sister is eight years older. She's more like my mother because everything that they did was what a mother and a father would do for a child. I'm not here. I'm not the man that I am. I'm not the person that I am. I'm not the friend that I am.

I'm not the father that I am without seeing how he did things. We're brothers. We're a lot alike, but we're very different because I've always had to fight. Everything came so easy to him. I was so small. They called me Pee Wee. And I just, I could never understood.

I never understood why I couldn't beat him in certain things. He was always prouder of things that I did as opposed to what he accomplished. He was much more happy when I got drafted than he did when he went first pick in the seventh round. I mean, first, the seventh pick in the first

round. I went seventh round 192. He was so excited. He would just call and say, I mean, he just had, y'all don't know what this moment means. Not just to our family. My mom is going to be extremely excited.

I'm extremely excited. Our high school coach who coached my mom, who also coached he and I. This is a and God heard prayers I didn't even know he was listening to there'll be a time

that you and I'll have a conversation we'll talk mapping everything out guests that you want to bring and the party and the entertainment that you want bro I've said it before I've said it before I would give every dime

take myself out of the hall just for you to be in I measure my life in summers I don't say years say how big I pretty got hopefully pretty healthy got 20 20 summers big I'm pretty, got hopefully pretty healthy. I got 20 summers left.

I'm good now. I'm good. Love you. There's only two men, guys, I've ever told that I love. My son. My brother. God damn it.

It was so hard to keep this a secret, Stephen A. But I got the call. And I had to get him to come to my home. And they wanted to go do it in Glenville. I said, bro, I haven't been to Glenville in 13 years. He going to know something up if I tell him to come down there. Yeah. So I lured him to the house. Still, he hadn't seen me in my home in six years.

So if I call and I tell him to meet me somewhere, he's going to think something's wrong. Like, bro, what's up, bro? He's like, what's up? I said, man, just come to the house. He's like, I'm in town. He's like, you all right? I said, yeah, bro, I'm good. I'm good. I just, you know, I'm in town and you know, you close by.

And he had surgery on his eye. He had a detached retina. He had a bubble placed in his eye. He almost lost the vision in his eye about three months ago and said he had some, some blurred vision in his eye. And he went to the, and the doctor said, we got to perform surgery. They couldn't perform surgery that afternoon because he had already eaten,

so they got him in the next morning. So that's what we've been dealing with. Had a lot on my plate dealing with that because I worry. I'm the warrior of the family. I think that's my responsibility now. But, bro, I'm so happy. I'm so proud of you.

I'm getting there it's it's hard to explain because you don't want to put your emotions on someone else but you you know and i think that the easiest way to explain it is we've all experienced, I think, Christmas. You have a list and you're hoping that you could get two, three or four of those things. I never wished for this. I never wanted this. And I said it tonight out loud for the first time. And the reporter was like, what do you mean you never? I'm like, man, you don't understand. I only wanted to do one thing. And that was play.

I didn't want to be an all pro or pro bowler or all that. I just wanted to play. And I got to do that for seven years and I'm good. And then the hall of fame comes around and they're like, okay, you've been out five years. You know, Sterling sharp is on the list of 25. You know, it would be, he would be a shoe in if he played longer, but they never talked about what I did.

And I was like, if it wasn't enough, wasn't enough. I'm okay with that. I slept real good before I found out I was going to the Hall of Fame and I slept good after finding out, but, but I really didn't have any, any aspirations on wanting this. It is a tremendous honor. I know exactly what that means. I went through it with him and that was the greatest athletic achievement of my entire life

was going on that journey with him through the Hall of Fame. Me going in will not exceed when he went in. It won't do it. It's not going to come close. That was probably the happiest I'd ever been

because I knew where he came from going to Savannah State, a college he said he wasn't going to go. That's one of the times that I told him what he was going to do. So I knew how hard he fought. And I mean, there's not a lot of opportunities for us in sports to where I know what Stephen A's journey was like to get here, or I know what Chad's journey was like to get here. I know what his journey was like. And all my prayers were for him. I'll embarrass him about one story. I paid all his bills. He was in the NFL. I paid all his bills until my daughter was born because that was mine because I wanted him to always have better than what I had. He had a Mercedes before I did. He couldn't afford one, but he was driving one. And then he wanted to go to a beach party and he drove my new one and wrecked it.

A junkyard. Yeah, that's what he said. A junkyard, you carved out. Wait, what? So you have to understand that we are brothers, but we are one side of the same coin. We'll say different things differently and we'll do different things differently, but we think alike. And God is truly, you know, and I will tell you this story and I'm going to be quiet. A guy said to me, if you go in the hall of fame, are you going to do like everybody else? And thank God, because you think God wanted you to be a hall of famer. If there is a guy. And I said this, I said, my own brother stood up and said,

if you would have played longer, there is no question in my mind that we would be the first brothers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. That was in 2011. Since he said that, I have not had one catch, I have not gained one yard, and I should give him some glory. And so, you know,

for me, that, that is what I'm, I'm, I'm probably most proud of is everybody used to say, you know, Shannon, stop trying to be like him.

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Congratulations on a great season. Individually, not the season that you wanted to have team-wise. What do you guys need to do in order to have success when you're in the playoffs and you're contending

for a championship? Yeah. I mean, that's a really, really tough question, but... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Be honest.

Don't be politically correct. Not here. Okay, okay. okay be straight up like we in the barbershop now yeah all right so we have to have those tough conversations as you know like just like as men right and and we need to call guys up right like just like not like calling them out i just like call them up to to like like our standard. We expect more. Yeah. And, and that starts with everybody.

Like that starts with me. That starts with every single person. And we just got to find ways to close that gap because there's so many games that like, you know, like just that we were so close and we just let it slip. Now I got a question. Now you speak about that gap,

right? And, and obviously everyone's goal at the beginning of the season is you want to compete to be in San Francisco this year coming up. Next year, obviously.

Yeah. What gaps do you think need to be filled in from an acquisition standpoint, offensively or defensively, that can help you guys get to that end goal? Honestly, I think that we have

a lot of our core guys. um and and like before i can focus on anybody else like i gotta focus on everything that i gotta do like i didn't have my best season i mean now there are some things that happen but just just like focusing like all myself like i have to do things to um produce in any type of situation injury like just like you know like just like guys are out there hurt too. There was a lot made of the situation. I think it was the Texans game.

Your quarterback scrambled. He ended up taking himself out of the game. I guess there was a team meeting. There were conversations that were had. The coach ended up benching him for a couple of games. He got benched one game, a couple of games, and then week, a couple of, he got benched one game, a couple of games. And then I think Blacko filled in or whomever came in for him.

What was those conversations like? Because I'm telling you, as a player, have been in the locker room, has been a leader that's frowned upon when we feel a guy left us out there to dry. Because the one thing is, it's kind of like we adopted, it's nothing compared to the military. So military folks, don't get me wrong, but it's like, we leave leave no man behind is that we're out here together we're gonna fight together we're gonna win together we're gonna lose together but the one thing we're not gonna do is leave the other guys behind what was that conversation that you had to have with your quarterback

because i believe he's gonna be there for an extended period of time michael pittman jr and you know you guys are going to need him yeah um had a, so we actually had all of our team. So all of our team leaders from every single position group and we kind of had a hour long meeting and we talked about everything. Like it wasn't just centered around that. Like it was everybody. But I think that was a good um

learning experience for him to know that that is not the standard and that he can't do that and stuff like that so it's all just learning and i think that he handled that period of time well um because everybody was like crashing on him right so. So, um, we saw him show up earlier. We saw him put in more work and, and like kind of do the things necessary to kind of earn everybody's trust that. I like that. I like that.

Did you notice the difference from that time that before that to the time that happened to after that, did you notice a noticeable improvement in him? Absolutely. Like, like from like, just like after that benching, I noticeable improvement in him absolutely like like from like just like after that benching i felt like he came out and he really was playing a lot better you know i got a question people at home people are watching we always get to see the finished product

right the finished product of a player and what they do you get to see them on sundays what do you think you need to work on as far as your game is concerned and how you can better being a better receiver yeah i know you're not where you want to be oh yeah yeah yeah absolutely um i think that my next step is being able to recognize coverage at a level that a quarterback can right uh because like i mean like i can see coverage but but I see half of the field. Right. And I'm not as good as just like a Patrick Mahomes, obviously, because he can read the entire field quickly.

So just getting to that point. Yeah. Anytime, before you go, anytime, if you get to that point, the game slows down tremendously. No matter how many bluffs, no matter how many disguises they do, you already know what's coming based off tendencies and down and distance. But when you get to that point,

boy, you're going to love it. Yeah. Let me ask you a question. When you go outside and you line up, are you looking across the field at the other side to see what's going on over there? No. So, well, I mean,

I'm really focused on corner, nickel, safety. Okay. Right. And then like if it's corner, backer, safety and then like if it's corner backer safety and like if it's nickel dime or right or like if that backers like are like mugged up like it's going to be pressure but i rarely do i ever get to scan the whole field because like i'm thinking about hey like i'm gonna give them like this right here and if he brings his hands up like i'm gonna do this if that doesn't work then i gotta do that right so yeah let me ask you a question like we broke it down okay down in distance

area of the field uh for who they have on the field and what did take count of the coverage now they might switch it up but down in distance where we on the field we know 85 of the time they like to run this uh down in distance area, the field where we are. We backed up. We had midfield. We have plus territory. We're in the red zone. So that gave me a little bit of an insight.

Now I was different because I learned as a tight end, because I'm looking at, I'm looking at fronts. They're going to play certain fronts. They're going to play certain coverages behind certain fronts. Yeah. Now you're not really looking at that. So now if I can just,

if you like, take a look back, like, okay, they got four down linemen. Okay. Blah, blah, blah. They got, they're playing nickel four, two. So now, if you take a look back, like, okay, they got four down linemen, okay? Blah, blah, blah. They're playing nickel, 4-2-5, okay? They're playing dime.

They're playing 4-1-6, okay? It'll give you a tip. It'll give you a heads up of what the potential is. Not always. Don't go chasing ghosts. But you'll have just that extra step. And you know sometime a half an inch is all it takes between you being open. Oh, yeah. That's all it is. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. Thank you for that extra step. And you know, sometime I happen it is all it takes between you being open. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. That's all it is. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well, definitely. Thank you for that. Yeah. So what you're doing down to a Superbowl, what are you promoting?

Yeah. So I'm here with Toyota. I've actually been working with them for a whole year now. So we're down here supporting the future generation of athletes. And then they also have something for fans here at the Super Bowl experience where they can go sit in cars with team Toyota athletes.

So it's a really cool deal. That's dope. Hey, Michael, appreciate you. Tell your dad I said hello. Absolutely. Glad you're doing well, man. Congratulations. Continue success.

Oh, yeah. And good luck next year, man. Hey, better win the Colts in the playoffs. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Jane Daniels, who's going to be the runaway rookie of the year after an outstanding season.

He did something very, very unique that very few rookies have ever done. He's led his team to two road playoff wins as the de facto leader. He wasn't relying on his defense. They put a lot on his plate and he ate everything. I expect to see big things from this young man in the future. Congratulations on a great seeding, Jaden. Jaden, when you look at what

you've done, the expectations now, you have to improve and build on what you've done. You can't become complacent because you understand what is expected of you now. Because they're talking about this guy, who's to say he's not a top five quarterback as we sit here and speak currently? What does Jaden Daniels need to do to improve to make sure this year wasn't a fluke? Man, I just think, like you said, don't get complacent.

And I think the veterans that I have, like one person I really lean on a lot is Bobby Wagner. Okay, he wags. So that's my guy, man. We have conversations. He just teaches me little things. I remember like, shout out to him.

I remember like we played a couple games and at road game, we'd get back late. You know, you're tired and everything. And he pulled me aside like, man, let's go get

in these tubs. So we're out there like three o'clock in the morning. Wow. Making sure your body's back right. But just little stuff like out there like three o'clock in the morning, making sure your body's back, right? But just little stuff

like that is like never thinking that you know too much. There's always room to grow. So, I mean, outside you always

get better technically and stuff like that. It's a blessing. I get to be in the system that I was in Cliff another year. Yes. So I can improve on that

within that system, but just learning how to be a pro, you know, it's my first full off season. So I was like, okay, I got to figure out,

have a schedule like this. What I'm going to do is my ramp up period, OTA, stuff like that. And just, I always had a hunger to get better. How do you block out the noise? Because obviously there's going to be a lot that comes along with what you've

been able to do. Yeah. You're a quarterback in the NFL. We know what comes along with the most important position in all of pro sports. So now the endorsements are going to come. Now more fame, more adulation, more praise. Everybody

Hey, Cone, what's up? Everybody's a friend now. Everybody's a family member now. And as your mom said, she's like, look, I know the women are coming, but I hey, my son got a husband post. I got one too. I'm still following them all out the way. How do you keep a level head and to understand that, yes,

I understand what comes along with me and James Daniels, but I don't get outside of who I am. I just think it comes, like you said, support system, mom, dad, friends, family. Everybody knows me for me, and it's not here. Like, okay, let me ride his coattail and stuff like that. So that's a big part. But also, this is a time to play for everything.

It's going to be a time to have fun. Right. It's going to be a time to go out there and party, you know, make some money, do this, that's a big part. But also, this is a time to play for everything. It's going to be a time to have fun. Right. It's going to be a time to go out there and party, you know, make some money, do this, that,

and the third. But the main thing, man, none of this happened if you don't ball on the field. Right. So that's the main thing. Like,

how do I get better to continue the success and knowing like, all right, first year is that. Like, everybody's going to have a full off season

to watch a film for year two so like man I gotta improve on different things and get better at myself listen though when you talk about

that improvement right you guys were able to make the NFC championship what pieces to the puzzle do you think you guys need to add to make your job

a little easier so the bulk or the weight of getting things done isn't always on your shoulders yeah man I think for us it's like

if you look at I think I've seen some we like, if you look at it, I think I've seen some, we got like 20 some free agents like that on the team. So, I mean, we got to bring some people back. So I think overall, just in general,

man, we got to get some people in. We got to bring people back. But I focus on my job. My job is to get better whoever they bring in. We hold them to the standard that we set with DQ and let the front office do what they do.

Go to the stage right now is a San Francisco 49ers all-pro linebacker, one of the best defensive players in all of football, Fred Warner. What happened this year? Because you guys were in this situation just last year. This year, some injuries. What happened? What does the 49ers need to do to get back in this position and what happened this year yeah i mean everybody talks about the injuries right i think it just when you go when you go through the whole year things just unraveled at the exact wrong time i think you

call it right um we thought we had a chance to really get back on track mid-season we get christian back right you know we went a big game on the road against buccaneers buffalo we think we can come bounce back after a bad game against green bay he gets hurt we lose guys on the d-line we lose tramp lose ba like all these all these injuries kind of just happened at the wrong time and we just weren't able to continue to compete at a high level so we got to get back man we got to get back on track this offseason get guys healthy and get that, get that dog back in us. Now, when you,

when you think about the off season, right. Are there any pieces, any acquisitions that you see fit that can help and bolster the defensive side of the ball, the offensive side? Are you, are you happy with the core guys you guys have?

I mean, I see miles gear asking for a trade. I'm like, Hey, we're just jumping up at the Pro Bowl. I don't know, man.

I love my team. I love who we have, right? You're always looking for more pieces, you know, more improvement. Of course,

you know, we need improvement going into the next season, of course, based on the season we have, but I love everybody that we got in our locker room. It's going to take everybody

just taking a look in the mirror and just taking that next step going into next season. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-beingbeing and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain.

This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there.

And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.