Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Steve Smith Sr.'s affair, Hooters bankruptcy, $30 lunch debate
Episode Date: March 2, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best pop culture moments of the week including NFL legend Steve Smith Sr. for cheating with his wife, Hooter announcing they're filing... for bankruptcy, the trending $30 lunch twitter debate, and much more!04:00 - Is $30 enough to gift for lunch? 09:37 - Hooters is going out of business 18:23 - Unpacking the Steve Smith affair 39:30 - Things that old people do 41:17 - You only need $200 to go shopping ladies(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ocho Woman says
a man giving low effort after he sends
money for a lunch. Good morning, good
morning. Cash out to $30. I know
it ain't much, but lunch on me.
Honestly, I'm so over these
low efforts. Just keep effing.
You don't have to do that.
Thanks, though.
See, that's the problem.
Just ungrateful.
She sent it back to him, Mocho.
She sent it back to him?
Yeah.
Yeah, so listen.
That's $30 less than she had.
She ain't even had $30.
She ain't had no money.
Well, you know what?
She might have had money anyway.
She might have had money anyway.
But again, that comes from the men.
That comes from the men that lead with money.
It's easy to attract a woman and get what you want much faster when you lead with money.
It's very, very easy.
Very easy.
That's why most of the men with the money get all the goddamn women.
You hear me?
Because of situations like that.
Women don't appreciate a man's generosity.
Listen, I don't have much, baby.
But if you're hungry, here goes $30.
Here goes $30 out my check.
I don't make much every two weeks.
But I'm going to give you $30 because I want to make money.
What about this tube steak?
Huh?
What about this tube steak you can eat?
Tube steak?
Oh.
You can't do that.
You can't do that.
You can't approach like that.
I ain't been approached with no money.
Oh, okay.
You think I'm going to send you money out the rip for lunch?
I see what you're saying.
But, I mean,
you right,
Uncle.
I mean, come on, Ocho.
I mean,
how you open up a conversation and send money?
Well, you have to understand, you're going to pay indirectly anyway, so you might as well start off.
I ain't got no cash yet, so how am I going to get you the money?
You tell her to come get it.
Can I?
I told you,
hey, listen, let me tell you something before you go.
Remember what my bio on Twitter says, right?
What does it say?
Let me read it to you one more time. Chat, y'all listen
to me.
McDonald's is cheaper than therapy.
And never forget,
you're paying for sex
indirectly.
Key words, indirectly.
But the word relationship or marriage changes the narrative.
Huh?
Let that sink in.
I'm not a therapist.
I'm not a counselor.
But I know what the hell I'm talking about through experience.
Nothing in life is free.
No.
In love, don't pay the bills.
That was a good one right there i need to write
i'm gonna write that down yeah but don't you i mean i mean
the thing that ticks me off the most is being ungrateful
i don't care how big or how small it is right let me know that you appreciate my gesture
because i didn't have to i did i didn't have to do ish. At all.
And it's with men also.
Men, you got to understand, no matter how much you want to give, stay within your financial lane.
Stay within your financial lane.
I don't care who it is.
Don't allow these women to be a salary cap casualty.
Stay within your financial lane.
If you scroll through
her Instagrams, look at her Instagrams.
If you look at her pictures and you
see that you can't
maintain the image that she's trying
to portray, keep scrolling.
Let it go, yeah. If you can't afford it,
don't even send no message.
It's okay to win the shop.
When I have no bread, I'm looking
like, man, I sure wish one
day I could go into the hair Winston or Tiffany or XYZ yes sir you look at these women bro you
know you know so she got a Birkin bag which is more than you make in three months yeah what she
yeah yeah and matter of fact even if the Birkin bag ain't real which it isn't half the time Which is more than you make in three months. Yeah. What? Yeah. Can't stop.
Yeah.
And matter of fact, even if the Birkin bag ain't real, which it isn't half the time because
you have to, you have, there's a line.
There's a line for Birkins.
I'm not.
Oh, you ain't just walking in no Birkin store getting it.
He's walking in there buying no Birkin anyway.
So that's a whole nother story.
But fellas, learn to act your wage.
It's simple.
Learn to act your wage.
It's okay.
There are simple women out there that will enjoy
and be happy and grateful that you send them $30 for lunch. Grateful. Now remember, stay in your
financial lane. Don't allow these women to be a salary cap casualty. Act your wage. Simple.
Okay. You ain't got it. I ain't got it, baby. I'm sorry. I ain't got Okay. You ain't got it.
I ain't got it,
baby.
I'm sorry.
I ain't got it.
I ain't got it.
Hey,
you,
they go,
they go guilt you.
I thought,
I thought you was old high roller.
I thought you was a big baller.
I thought you was a real,
a real N I,
a real Ninja.
Oh,
I thought you were a rider.
Huh?
Don't fall for that manipulation.
Don't fall for that.. Don't fall for that.
That ain't me.
I ain't got it.
My money jumped funny last week.
Matter of fact, I got it.
I got it and I ain't sending it.
You got to wait
till the interest rate come down.
Right now, the interest rate's a little high.
Right now, the interest is too high. I got to wait till the interest rate drop down. Once right now the interest too high i gotta wait till
the interest rate drop down once you get under three percent i'll let your boy hold on i'm gonna
write you a check but don't cash it till this date now i want you to cash your check early
the money ain't gonna be there march 2nd 20 never That's what I'm supposed to date the check for. That's
where you can cash it.
But I can honestly say I don't know when the last time I wrote
a check.
Ocho, check this one out.
That's funny. Ocho, check this out.
Hooters announced bankruptcy
yesterday, much to the sadness of
a few NBA players. Kevin Love
posted on Instagram a photo of himself
at Hooters when he was younger with the caption
As you
can see, I was swimming
I was swimming in it back then.
Sad to see the fall of
an absolute institution. If anyone
can save it,
it's the two on the table. Next
slide. Who do you
got?
Kevin Love, he got? Kevin Love.
He got Katie and Book.
Hey, that's fucked.
That's a good one.
Because Book said,
Book, please don't go at Hooters.
You ever had their wings?
Oh, yeah.
I used to go to Hooters back in the days.
I never forget. Now, ever since Twin Peaks came about, You ever had their wings? Oh, yeah. I used to go to Hooters back in the days.
I'll never forget.
Now, ever since Twin Peaks came about, obviously when I'm in Miami,
any time I don't frequent Atlanta often, but the few times I have been to Atlanta,
which I can count on two hands even after all these years,
I like Hooters, but I prefer Twin Peaks better.
I prefer Twin Peaks better.
I don't know if it's the food, but the fact that I can sit on the patio, I can smoke.
They always have my soccer games.
You know how much I love soccer.
They have my soccer games on
at Twin Peaks in Pines, Twin Peaks in
Doral. They make my coffee for me.
I get my cafe con leche. I get my latte.
It's something Hooters
has never been able to
do for me
outside of going to eat the food
you know the aesthetic
who's got better wings, Wingstop or Hooters
probably Wingstop
Wingstop has a variety of wings you can choose from
yeah Wingstop got about 40 different flavors
huh
I said Wingstop got about 40 different flavors
yeah they got
I don't want no sauce on my
I mean if I were to get sauce I'm probably going to get lemon pepper but for the most part I don't want no sauce I don't want no sauce on my, I mean, if I were to get sauce, I'm probably going to get lemon pepper,
but for the most part, I don't want no sauce.
I don't want no buffalo sauce. I don't want
no hot. I don't want anything. Just
give me wings.
Flats.
If I'm getting a dozen wings, give me 10
flats and two drumettes.
That's it? Two drums?
Yeah. Okay. That's about right.
It's too
difficult. Yeah, Okay, that's about right. It's too difficult.
Yeah, I like that.
Ocho, you going to miss Hooters?
Listen, I'm not even going to say I lied to you.
I ain't been to Hooters in so long.
I told you.
I ain't either.
Ever since I learned about Twin Peaks, but I ain't been to Hooters in years.
I don't even...
Listen, Hooters right there on 27th Avenue.
27th Avenue, right off, yeah, right off of, wait, right off of Pines.
Right off of Pines and Flamingo, I think something like that.
Man, I go right to Twin Peaks.
I'm not going to lie to you.
I'm not going to lie, just Twin Peaks has more to offer aesthetically. I look straight ahead, but I use them for peripheral vision, if you understand what I'm not gonna just just Twin Peaks has more to offer aesthetically no I look straight ahead
but I use them a peripheral vision if you understand what I'm talking about yeah I think
I think Ocho I think that's what it was it was iconic it was those t-shirts yes cropped and
there was the orange shorts right and I think that that that was the allure of it yes it's fast food
I mean look I you're not going there expecting to get a five-course meal,
something that, oh, my God, this is the best whatever, whatever, whatever.
But it was the view.
It was the ambiance.
You got to go with your buddies, and you watch sporting events,
things of that nature.
Yes, sir.
So if it is to close, I mean, how long would it open?
It had to be open about 40 years, 50 years, 40, 50 years.
Oh, it did not.
I mean, hell, when I was a kid, it was.
Yeah.
Hey, Unc, when you down in Atlanta,
you ain't been to the Twin Peaks in Atlanta?
Uh-uh.
And they got the game.
1983, so 42 years.
Okay.
No.
Out your man looking, bro. Check it out. Hey, so 42 years. Okay. No. Ocho Man, look here, bro.
Check it out.
It's a sporting event.
We're sporting games on, boxing matches, MMA, basketball.
I enjoy it.
I only go there for soccer.
You know, they have my EPL games on.
You know, I want to watch La Liga.
I want to watch Champions League.
I go right in Pines.
I go right in Doral.
Man, it's perfect.
The food, phenomenal.
Well, the thing is for me, I'm trying to watch because I'm probably going to have to critique or analyze these games.
Oh, so you ain't trying to.
So I need to be able to focus.
Okay, okay, okay.
And, you know, especially football.
Man, what do you think?
Was that a hold it?
Should they have called it?
You like that?
Man, I'm trying to watch the game, man.
But it don't care what you're up to.
Okay, yeah, you're right.
You're right.
I got you.
I got you.
I mean, I don't stop wearing headphones.
I'll be at the airport.
They take my headphones.
They take my headphones.
Ask me, ask me, did he just take your headphones?
Yeah, you took them off and asked me a question.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hold on.
Somebody actually pull your headphones off?
Oh, they do it all the time.
What you mean?
Somebody all the time.
So if. actually pull your headphones off? Oh, they do it all the time. What you mean? Somebody. All the time. So,
if...
Hey,
I can't imagine that,
but I know you'd be ready to snap, huh?
I like, I mean,
I mean, sometimes I do wish I
got the grace that other
people that had headphones on were walking
through the airport or wherever, in the gym,
and they didn't get tapped on the shoulder, or they didn't get the headphones lifted off the ear
but you know the situation like that ocho you know you have to be on all the time i mean yeah
celebs and entertainers and athletes we never get to have an off day we got to be on all the
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A lot of airlines having unfortunate circumstances, you know, aerial.
You know, I don't want to say it, you know, falling out the air, having incidents, you know, tumbling over, doing flips on the runway.
You know, an airline hasn't had any issues on?
What airline?
Spirit.
They've been grounded.
You know what airline hasn't had any issues in chat?
None at all.
Now, listen.
Now, we might fight.
We might fight on the plane.
Oh, what you mean, might? Stay with me now. We might fight on the plane. Oh, what you mean, might?
Stay with me now.
We might fight on the plane.
You might have our receptionist cuss you out.
Yeah.
That might happen.
But one thing about it, we're going to get you where you got to get to,
and we're going to get you back home safe.
We ain't having no issues.
We're going to get you.
We might fight.
You know, we might talk a little bit.
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This is what
have been eating up the chat
and everybody been wanting to talk about it.
Now, the most requested
topic of the night.
What?
Steve Smith Sr. was caught having an affair with another man's wife.
First, a Facebook post appeared that was clearly written by the husband.
I mean, you guys can see it.
It's like, hey, I'm Nicole Martinez, though.
I won't be Martinez much longer. You see, I've been cheating on my husband and been doing so with the very famous Steve Smith Sr.
Picked a tax for reference.
I had hidden under three,
but that's been fixed. My husband
brought me a house. He stood by
my side after I'd been arrested twice for
domestic violence, and this is how I
repay him and our son.
Three's plenty of messages here. Steve's
crazy.
The kind of revealing messages a celebrity will send.
Baltimore Ravens.
I'm also a member of your team band.
I believe I violated some fraternization rules by hooking up with Steve at the training facility.
Oh, Lord have mercy.
Dad, when is it happening?
I've been out here in the Bahamas.
I ain't hear nothing about this.
Hold on, Ocho.
And then the husband called Smitty
and posted the video.
Now, I don't know if there is some kind of like,
don't you have to record someone?
Don't you have to have,
it's state by state.
In Vegas, it's only one party.
So the party that's recording,
they know it, the other party don't.
California, I think it's a two state. uh but anyway ocho the husband called smitty and posted the video
let's take a listen to what what was said hey yo steve
yes sir yeah you've been my wife, bro.
What you got to say for yourself?
I'm sorry.
You're sorry? Well, listen
He said he's sorry
He said he's sorry, Unc
Now listen, this is what you don't do
As a man
Understanding, you know, that's my wife
Girlfriend
Someone you're seeing, someone you're talking to
You never confront the individual
because Steve Smith Sr. owes
you no loyalty. Steve Smith ain't married
to you, bro. She's not married.
Steve is not married to you. You talk
to your wife. You check your wife. And that goes
for any and everybody. I know a lot of people you
want to crash out about your woman and
all this stuff, man. Or your man.
Or your man. Listen,
it goes both ways. It always comes down
to me. Again, understand who you're marrying. Understand. Understand human nature. Human nature
is undefeated. I'm going to say that as well. I don't care how people come off. I don't care
how innocent they may seem. I don't care how much they tell you they love you. When certain opportunities present themselves, they're going to go.
When certain opportunities with certain individuals that are convenient and they feel they can get away with it, they're going to go.
I don't care how much love there is.
I don't care how much money you got.
It doesn't matter understand who you're dealing with
and move accordingly I mean I say I say it all the time I say it all the time listen had a family
kids husband he's doing everything he's doing this and you upset there's no reason to call Steve
that's not doing nothing you take that up nothing. You take that up with the wife.
You take that up with the missus.
Well, I think the thing is what
the gentleman was doing
is that like, okay,
if I'm going to get a divorce, I'm going to try to mess your
home up also.
That's what this was about. I ain't answering.
First of all, that ain't my M.O.
That's not me.
You married?
Oh, this ain't nothing.
It's something.
You know what you're saying?
No, just keep it a buck with me.
You married?
And I'm a firm believer in this.
A man might not want his wife,
but the moment another man shows interest, all of a sudden it gets rekindled.
And like you just said at the top, people crash out about certain situations.
That crime of passion and juries are very sympathetic.
They're very sympathetic in situations like this.
Crime of passion.
Leave it alone, guys.
If they're married, just let it go.
Smitty, my guy, I've known Smitty 20 years.
Same.
Great.
Just saw him.
He was just at my party at the Super Bowl.
Had a great conversation with him.
Had a great conversation with him. Had a great conversation with him.
I love the guy.
Hard-nosed the way he played, X, Y, and Z.
But, bro, you need to take that up with your wife.
Smitty owes you no loyalty.
He's under no obligation.
Now, he's going to have to deal with the issue
at home,
his own situation.
But this,
I don't know the gentleman's name.
That's the situation
you got to handle with your wife.
She has the loyalty clause.
She's the one
that has an obligation to you.
To you.
Go ahead, Ocho.
I ain't been around too long, man.
I ain't been around too long.
Too much experience.
It ain't even worth it.
It ain't even worth it.
I'm not even talking about Smitty's part.
I love Smitty. Me and Smitty go about Smitty's part. I love Smitty.
Me and Smitty go way back to Santa Monica.
Forget the Smitty part. I'm just talking about the individual who's married to the young lady.
You know what time it is.
You see something like that, you're going about
your business. And this ain't the first time.
The signs had to be there.
The signs had to be there. Something like this doesn't just happen
all of a sudden. Oh my God. Oh my goodness.
I go through my wife's phone and all of a sudden she's sleeping with somebody else no this is happening man they joke releasing text man bro yes that's they like that'd
be lame man hey cat cat get pack your bag and start f over you know what time it was you know
what you you know what you married. Understand what you're marrying.
And even if you got you a good girl.
I would never forget.
I'd never forget.
A very wise man once told me
depending on the circumstance
and opportunity, whoever you're dealing with
will take the chance if they know you won't find out.
They will take the chance depending on who it is.
It doesn't matter.
But you just can't, Ocho, but I'm, listen, no matter what,
I'm not calling no one about someone.
Hold on.
You think I'm embarrassed?
You think I'm embarrassed myself?
Yes. Because now he's going to be like, man, I had, I'm embarrassed? You think I'm embarrassed myself?
Could not.
He going to be like,
man, I had,
I had,
I had a boy.
Cause that's happened to me.
That's happened to me.
Dude confronted me.
Bro,
you ain't got no issue with her?
How you think I got here?
Right.
How you think I knew when she stayed?
You ain't say that. You ain't say that you ain't say that
in your mind you're saying I understand what you mean
I wanted
to whip him
nah don't do that
but he was a teammate
god damn
I ain't know
you ain't know
bro if you were Burns.
If you was on Rima time, boy, you like that, okay.
Ocho, Ocho, no, if you weren't Keith Burns,
when you was with the Broncos,
I didn't know what the hell you was doing, I didn't care.
Once I found out, I'm cool.
Yeah.
Because I don't want it to become an issue.
Once I found out, I'm good.
You good?
You got me?
Hey, bro, my bad.
Okay, three times, don't you? You know what I'm saying?
Don't you three times.
Don't you three times.
Damn.
Boy, you was an animal.
Boy, golly.
Okay, I see you. I mean, don't you? I couldn't just leave. Don't you? You know what I'm saying? Don't go three times right now. Well, you was an animal. Boy, golly. OK, I see you.
I mean, don't you know, I couldn't just leave.
Don't you know what I'm saying?
When the club about to close, how many people say,
OK, the club closing, they get up and start walking out?
They linger around.
They're like, hey, let me get another drink, bartender.
You know, so I had to linger around.
Hey, right.
I understand.
I understand.
Hey, that's why, you know, when it happened once,
when it happened once,
pack your bags and go. I don't know what you're arguing for. What you're arguing for?
What you fussing for? What you releasing text messages
for? But one, it's not going to stop.
Because once you're going to do it again,
it ain't like a light switch hit on and all of a
sudden, you know what? Oh, I ain't going to do this no more.
I ain't going to.
Nah, that's exactly who he is. Once someone
shows you, once somebody shows you who they are,
that's what it is.
Yeah.
I mean,
like I said to Ocho, I didn't know.
I didn't know until he rolled up on us.
I told you the story Ocho had to do rolled up
on us. Oh, yeah, yeah. You was on Demon Time
that long. Yeah.
Now,
now,
now that I think about it, Oh, yeah, yeah, you was on demon time that long. Yeah
Now now that I think about it in order for him to find out where we were he had she had to have taken him there, too. Ah
Cuz they know ain't no way ain't no way
I'm just gonna you just gonna go somewhere and also, you know what?
They might be here cuz he wasn't from there and I wasn't from there. And for him to
go to that spot, he had to
have gone there before.
See, you know what that tell me?
She done took more than just you two
there as well, too, huh?
That ain't got nothing to do with me. I'm just saying.
Hey, that song, I don't care about them other
men. Just be good to me.
That ain't got nothing to do with me.
What you did before Shannon,
what you do after Shannon
ain't got nothing to do with me.
It does have something to do with you.
What you do while you're with Shannon.
That's what matters.
I would let that go.
Hey, look, I ain't
finna hold you.
Clearly, that's what you want to be with. That's where you want to be at.
I'm going to let you go ahead and do that yeah hey man oh joe man what look yeah that's the
a lot of behavior is just like just like animals yeah what and i grew up on a farm once we had a
hog and that joker got out yeah my grandfather wasn't gonna keep him much longer because he already knows what it's like on the outside so no matter how much feed and slop you
gave him on the inside he knows is something out there and he needs to get to it so once they
started getting out it wasn't long before my grandfather load the ass up in the truck and
take him to the market once they get outside on Joe just like just
like a dog let a dog can break out especially if he he or she is intact
right one or two things you either go get that fixed yeah but you're not gonna
be able to keep me in now I tell you what somebody told you I'm telling what
I know you talk about somebody grew up on a farm that had hogs that had dogs I'm telling you and I look I look I'm not saying I'm
just saying the behavior I ain't calling no woman no dog and no hog and nothing
like that I'm just saying the behavior humans are animals yeah they have very
very similar behavior a lot of times territory animals mark their territory then
kick if you notice the dog go poop he'll kick if he he got sick glands in his paws in the back he
let him know a big dog here now don't let me catch you over here I'm gonna do something bad to you
hey hey you know what I think it is it funny. When you think about the experience, I think that the
chat, there's a huge disconnect and not understanding the amount of, all right, how do I
say this without getting in trouble? The chat has a huge disconnect with the amount of women we've
dealt with during those days. I'm say it i don't give a who i
get in trouble with especially right now you don't understand the amount of women i've dealt with
during that day you know it's about 20 25 years worth so i know what it looks like what buddy
going through i've been on one end of the spectrum and I've been on the other side of the spectrum.
Absolutely.
But I've been number two way more times than I've been number one.
So I know the game.
I know the tricks.
I know the trade.
And like at that point, so you become numb to it.
As soon as you see any signs, boom, okay, you know what time it is.
You lock in and you move accordingly.
It's really easy to
experience over time that's why that's that for me i'm just saying for me that's why it's so easy
i always tell you that's why i always tell you i see one thing wrong boom it's easy for me to be
able to compartmentalize and know what's going on i'm dealing with it. Yeah. Oh, look, and I think the thing is a lot of times.
Men and women are not as forthcoming
as they as they need to be.
My grandfather always say he say, boy, everybody has
somebody is just to what extent a wife, a significant other,
a girlfriend.
Maybe you see them casually.
The likelihood of you finding somebody scott free now even if
you find somebody she or he's seeing somebody and they might be willing to it's easy for them
to cut it off because it's not that extensive whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa wait a minute
now i told you this before this is when i when our earlier shows when we first started yeah
like when you meet somebody right and and and the women in the chat, they can attest to this.
You know, most of the time, the person you with right now is really not who you want to be with.
Ninety eight percent of marriages, the women that are married to certain men, you're not married to the man you really want to be with.
You're married to your safe. You're married to your safe place and the one that made the most sense.
Women that have men that have girlfriends right now.
Ask your girlfriend.
Ask your girlfriend who's the dude.
That left that mark in her life.
That will always have access to her.
For the rest of her life.
And see if she tell you the truth.
See if she tell you the truth.
Everybody got one.
Every woman has one.
No matter who it is.
Always.
They all got one.
And if she tell you it isn't everybody,
everybody in my life, not one.
Just had that one place in that one spot. Man, please.
It's a dirty game.
But the mentality has changed, don don't you because women have adopted a lot of the mentality that a man has man
yeah man man have that mentality do boo boo you do it I'm gonna do it too yeah
yeah and sometimes they go get the lick back they go get your best friend they
go to work whatever the case may be that's your hoo-ha oh no damn I know it ain't no I know that's hers
oh you think oh you get no you you can't get that you you hey that follows you that's on you
that follows you I can't keep it one thing I think one of the things we confuse especially
when we get in relationships we get get in relationships, even marriages like this individual here.
We have this feeling or notion that, okay, that's my property.
Ownership.
Even in relationships.
Once that title comes about, where men continue to crash out about is they feel as if they own that woman and her body and what she's doing with her body parts.
At no point ever, no matter how much money you pour into that individual, at no point ever does she belong to you.
Ever.
I don't care what she say.
Even through her horizontal activity, when she tell you this is your you know what, it still ain't yours.
Because at some point, it belongs to somebody else.
It's yours right now.
Yeah, at that very moment. That's all I'm worried about. I don't know where you're at some point it belonged to somebody else it's yours right now yeah at that at that very that's all i'm worried about i don't know is it
oh hey oh joe yeah if you spend a lot of time worried about and remember i told you like when
i went to work and i tell my i used to tell my I said I can't worry about you.
I said I can't spend one moment while I'm at work worrying about what you're doing.
Because if I do, I got to let you go. Hmm. I got to let you go.
If I got to think about what you're doing, where you are, if you're talking to someone, I got to let you go.
It ain't gonna make no sense. So it's ready to put him.
I mean, I hate this. Smitty got himself in a situation like this knowing his situation
But buddy was wrong for this, but I believe okay. Let's just say for sake of our you get one
He oh come out just by the way. He's moving just by the way. He's moving. He ain't gonna wear let's start there
He ain't gonna wear
He ain't gonna wear
He let me go. Oh hell hell. He ain't going nowhere. He ain't letting go. You don't think so? No, hell no.
He ain't even that type.
He done got the woman account.
Listen, ain't nobody going through all that that's leaving.
Ain't nobody going through all that that's leaving.
You're not doing all that if you're leaving.
You know what?
I'm going to save myself an embarrassment,
there you go,
just walk away,
just walk away,
ain't nobody going to know,
three people going to know,
me, her, and the good man upstairs,
that's it,
yeah, it's a dirty game,
and it's been that way for a long time,
that's why you got to learn to play it,
got to learn to play it,
and bow out with grace.
Yeah, man.
You hurt the Ocho. That's hurt.
I mean, Ocho.
You hurt by yourself.
You know how you get over hurt?
Get under somebody else.
That's how you get over hurt.
Get under somebody else. Consistently.
You will be fine.
When I said that, you told me, you ain't going to't gonna heal i said that you told me i needed to heal oh this is
different circumstances you wasn't married yeah there's different always remember chat you know
write this down you know get your notepad out she's not yours it's just a bad try to die by
ain't there some kind of fraternization? Bro, stop it.
You ain't no military.
Steve Smith is not no superior
to her. Hey, a fraternization who?
Fraternization.
Man, you don't go on about
your business, man.
Hey, pack your bag, boy. Start over,
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Bocho, a question went viral on Twitter.
What old person thing do you do?
Oh, this is a good one.
This is a good one.
You know what?
Old person thing that I do, probably go to bed early.
You know, outside at night, we have nightcap.
I'm asleep by 9 o'clock, 9 p.m.
I'm up at 5 a.m.
And I'm not sure if you would consider sitting on the porch
and people watching an old person thing because everybody people's watch everyone watches in general.
But I like I make it a thing to actually do when I go places like it's people watching is an extreme sport.
It passed by so much time depending on where you are at the airport.
Oh, amazing.
At the mall.
Amazing. You can you can pass by. You can airport, oh, amazing. At the mall, amazing. You can
pass by, you can kill a lot
of time people watching. I'm not sure if you consider
that an old people thing, being that they love sitting out
on the porch and just being nosy in general.
I consider that a form of people
watching as well. I don't sit out on my porch.
I don't do nothing.
Ocho, I work
out of my garage and people just walk up.
Hey, I thought that was you.
How you doing? If you don't get your ass out of my garage and people just walk up hey I thought that was you how you doing if you don't get your ass out of my garage okay oh Joe listen people think I'm like people don't have no field they don't put they
don't have no nothing people just walk I'm talking about I'm in my garage
working out and people who just walk up in the yard, walk up in the garage. I thought that was you.
What you mean?
You know, you're
a good dude, man. People feel that you're
approachable. Don't worry about it. I am approachable.
I got A. They're constructing a fence
right now. I got to get
a fence building and casing the whole property.
Really? Y'all can't just walk up
and be open. Come on now.
You got to be accessible, be accessible man you gotta be a
people's person you know
invite them in for tea
you gotta do like they used to do back in the days
you know when you meet your neighbors
you invite your neighbors in for tea
it's a different time now
Ocho it's a different time
it ain't like it was when you and I grew up
it's different you and I grew up.
It's different.
You gotta move different.
But you live in an area where you ain't got to worry about that.
Nah, bro, I ain't trusting nobody.
So if I walk in your driveway, you're not gonna trust me?
No.
First of all, you better hurry up because the fence is gonna be done in a couple of weeks. cuz the fence gonna be done in a couple of weeks
The gate go be up in a couple of I'm not even sure because I hop the gate. I'm not tripping. Don't worry about it
Hey, you definitely be hopping I promise you'll be hopping
You definitely will be hopping I promise you yeah, you going to shoot at me? Oh, yeah.
You'll be hopping.
A ninja sent me $20 and told me to go shopping.
I must be fitting on a shine card or something, child.
I don't know what the F I'm going to do with that.
What?
It's $200 to go shopping, don't you?
$200?
Yeah.
You know how many outfits a woman can get with $200
on Shine, on Fashion Nova?
If you can dress, the key
words, do you know how many outfits you can
get on Shine or Fashion
Nova for $200
if you can dress? All you need is a
pair of heels. All you need is a
pair of heels and a purse and a clutch.
That's it. That's it. For women
it don't take much. You don't have to have on designer. You don't have to have a purse and a clutch. That's it. That's it. For women that don't take much, you don't have to have
a designer. You don't have to have
a nice $1 outfit.
If you know how to piece things together,
an outfit with $200
from Shine and Fashion Nova,
you can kill them.
You can kill them. I've seen women do it.
Okay, here's the piece they want to put.
They want you to send $500, $500
to $1,000 for shoes. They want you to send another five hundred to a thousand for the hair they want
you to send another 250 for their nails and they want you to put another five another two thousand
for the outfit that's the piecing together they want you to do um certain women need to be self
you know self-aware self-awareness is very important you need to be self-aware are you
really that girl to be able to attract those type of men that are doing those type of things?
If you know you're not, like, why even think about it?
Why even think about it?
You know, look in the mirror.
Be honest with yourself.
What is it?
Is she in?
Hey, how y'all say that?
What is it?
She in?
Shine, shine.
Is she?
She.
Is she?
Oh.
Yeah, she.
Listen, am I really going to attract the kind of man that's
going to change my lifestyle with one check am i going to attract one of those men that can change
my life at the drop of a hat you know probably not there's a very small percentage of women that
are going to meet those type of individuals so get that out your head it's okay 200 is enough
it's enough to get what you need to do.
It's enough.
I'm telling you. I done seen women in $5 dresses with heels
and a clutch look like a million dollars.
Yeah. I don't know.
You're right. I don't know.
I don't know anything about
no shopping where women shop at.
I do.
What did they say?
I do. Where do they say? I do.
What are women by the shoes at?
I mean,
what shoes you talking about?
No, there's a web,
there's a site. Hold on.
It's so many.
Sophia Webster, YSL.
No, it's,
hold on. It's like when you,
if you can't find it, hold on. It's like where you, if you can't find it, if you can't find it, hold on.
Hell no.
What they say back there?
Talking about Zappos.
What's that?
What's Zappos?
I guess that's where you buy stuff from.
Okay.
Okay.
What is that?
Net, Net-A-Porter. Y'all ever heard of metal Porter mr. Porter she definitely
was shopping there hey when women got to understand where a $200 you know she
could do it $200 on if you this woman couldn't do anything with it but that um if you dress what about is Pasha a sight Pasha mark Oh
man I don't know man get up here ball none hey man please look y'all got me looking good.
And I ain't bought anything.
I ain't ordered nothing up nowhere.
Only thing my credit card did is pay for food.
I don't think I've ever used my credit card, but I've never ordered anything offline.
Oh, I don't.
But listen, I don't play, but I've been ordering offline,
especially on Instagram.
Sometimes, scrolling through the
explore page, you come across some of those
really dope sites that sell
clothes. Most of the time, it's in the UK
too. There's a line
called, I really enjoy
this brand called St. Perry.
The price point
ain't crazy. Real nice, casual looking stuff, man.
You got to start going online.
Hey, let me shop for you.
Let me be your personal shopper.
No, I'm good.
I got Shelly for that.
Okay, okay.
So you're trying to say you think Shelly has the same vision
when it comes to fashion as me?
No.
Okay, okay, okay.
But, uh.
Let me style you one time.
Just one time.
That's what I do, you know?
This year, 2025, I'm Mr. Put That Shit On.
Oh, damn it.
I've been doing good all show, my bad.
You've been doing good. You've been doing better.
Yeah.
Yeah, let me get off this.
I ain't ordering...
Because it ain't like
I could order something.
Hey, but.
Man, you didn't learn how to do stuff for yourself. Why?
If I learn how to do stuff for myself, I'm putting somebody out of work.
That's a good one. I like that. That's a good one.
I got to, you know.
That's a good one.
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