Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Super Bowl matchup, NFL expanding replay assist, Irvin calls Jerry out

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson look ahead to the Supe Bowl matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles, the NFL is expected to expand its replay assist to account for plays that could include the quarterback slide over the offseason, Cowboys legend Michael Irvin calls out Jerry Jones for the Brian Schottenheimer hire and much more!04:00 - Draft Kings13:00 - NFL Slide Adjustments16:00 - Ad - True Classic18:00 - Irvin on Cowboys coaching search37:16 - Men aren’t obsessed with women53:00 - Q&Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ocho, you like that? Is it too high, too low? Just right? I mean, I think it's just right. I think it's just right. But this is what's going to happen. You know, as the days go by, I think the line is going to change, huh? The line is going to change. I don't know

how it changes, you know, and I know the odds are stacked that we're in favor of the Chiefs for obvious reasons. But listen, I don't know who's going to win the game. I don't know who's going to win the game. But based on what we know, based off what we've seen Saquon do, are they going to be able to stop the run? If they can't stop the run, are they going to be able to stop Patrick Mahomes?

Over or under is 49.5 points, so they think it's going to be a very high-scoring game. That's a whole lot of points. Who going to have the ball last? That could be a determining factor. Who going to have the ball last? Well, I don't know the Eagles.

I hope Patrick Mahomes don't have it last. You don't want to be in the one score get one possession game with him ocho he with the ball no absolutely not absolutely not i'm excited i'm excited it is i mean um we kind of saw that like i said and i don't want to you know be the fact but i thought from like week eight week nine on i thought the eagles were the best team in the afc i I was concerned about Kansas City. But if you notice something about Kansas City, Ocho.

Yeah. They haven't turned about. This was their first turnover in nine weeks. Nine games. Yeah. Nine games. Nine, yeah. Okay.

Now, and go back to this. How many times did Mahomes get sacked tonight? Twice. Offensive line, they've done a better job of protecting it. Yeah. So now he's not getting hit. They're not turning the ball over. Right.

So the offensive line did a very good, very, very good. They neutralized, I mean, that one sack, the sack that the guy got, 97, I forget his name, from Buffalo Ocho.

Great move, did a spin, and just basically walked the left guard back and shot him down in the Mahomes' lap. Basically slid him down in his lap. But this is going to be a band. This is going to be a game.

I mean, I can imagine what these tickets are going to cost. Listen, you got this. Oh, let me, you know what? We got a prize yet? It's another thing. This is what I don't like, huh? This is what I don't like. You got Eagles fans that travel well.

They've been to home games. They've been to away games. They've been to Brazil. When the Eagles opened up against the Packers. You got Chiefs fans that travel well. I'm talking about real Chiefs fans that travel well. They've been to home games. They've been to away games.

Now it's time to go to Super Bowl. The real fans that have been to each and every game. Hard-earned money, huh? And this economy. You know how this economy is. Yes. Then you get to the biggest game of them all. The big dance.

You're pricing some of the real fans out. The Super Bowl is pricing some of the real fans out. They can't afford $4,000, $5,000, $6,000, $7,000 a ticket, huh? Well, the cheapest ticket right now currently is $5,346. That's the cheapest. See what I'm talking about? Now, you got to get a hotel. Hotel is normally, Ocho, minimum four nights. Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday night.

Minimum. They've turned the Super Bowl into a corporate event. Duh. Yeah, I understand. It's funny. But it's taken away from the true fans that supported these teams. It ain't taking no money out of them owners' pockets. Yeah, I understand. It's funny. But it's taken away from the true fans that supported these teams. It ain't taking no money out of them owners pockets. Yeah, of course.

I mean, listen, at the end of the day. I'm sorry, Chad, but I'm just going to keep it. I'm going to keep it a stack with you. Yeah. At the end of the day, that's what it's about. All those sponsors, Ocho. You know, Anheuser-Busch and all these, the Marriott or whoever these sponsors are. Ocho, you think I'm about to spend $300, $400, $500 million a year and you're not about to give me no thousand tickets?

Right. Are you lost, you mind? Yeah, I understand. But I just think it's not fair to want. I think it's not fair. I mean, who else? Who's a Bose? I think Bose is the official headset that you see on the sideline.

Right. Nike, the official shoe. Right. I think, well, Pepsi, come on, Verizon. Yeah. Listen, I understand. I know you have to take care of your sponsors, your endorsements. That's all your teachers, don't you? I know, I know. I'm justments. That's all your tinkers, Ocho.

I know. I'm just saying. The Super Bowl... You got people showing up to the Super Bowl, ain't watched football all goddamn year. They ain't watched football all year. Ain't been a damn game. But you in the suite. You in the million-dollar suite.

Don't worry about it. Just come on down anyway. The Mahalia Jackson Theater, February the 6th. Unc'n Ocho live, nightcap live tour. First spring tour stop. There you go. Check us out. Cheap. Cheap.

And we're going to have fun. As a matter of fact, as a matter of fact, if you come watch us live at the Mahalia Jackson, you know, February 6th, I might add, and you want some entertainment, we live might be better than the game itself. I tell you no lie. And definitely cheaper. I tell you no lie. The link is in the chat.

For sure. Whatever you pay, whatever the price admission is, you'll get that plus something. Plus? You'll get your money's worth. I tell you that. And if you don't, I'll refund you. Oh, you'll get your money's worth

because i'll guess what they're gonna be celebs having parties and they're gonna want 2500 for you to get in and you and guess what and you're gonna be so far you won't be able to move you will get one drink come back and once you get a drink and move away from the bar you're not about to get back to the drink it's gonna going to be so, so, so fat. So come on out, check out the nightcap tour. It's our first spring tour stop. Uncannot your live event.

Anybody that's been to the one that we had in Atlanta, Houston or Dallas, ask them about it. You already know what time it is. Yeah, that's what we do. Oh yeah. I have a question.

Yes. Our first stop is New Orleans, right? We have some unbelievable guests lined up. Matter of fact, we have great guests lined up. And I don't even know who the guests are because y'all don't like to tell me because I might tweet it out by accident. No. Yeah, exactly. Are we are we are we allowed to tell the chat the other cities that we're going to be coming to?

Or are we going to wait? Or can we give them some type of excitement? You want to you want to tell them all the cities that we possibly go that we're going to be coming to or are we gonna wait or can we give them some type of excitement you want to you want to tell them oh joe the cities that we possibly go that we're coming to yeah can i can i can i go ahead oh joe can i uh yeah chad y'all listen the cities we're going to y'all listening miami go ahead and give me uh north carolina charlotte charlotte we're going to charlotte chat y'all write these down now we're going on live tour miami charlotte north carolina chicago chicago detroit detroit come on write them down chat philly we're going to philly. Huh? Chat, we going to Philly. L.A. We going, oh, oh, we going to L.A. on bloods. Yeah. Uh-huh.

New York and Baltimore. New York and Baltimore. Woo! Yes. Wait a minute. We might have to add one more. We might have to add one more stop. I'll pay for that one.

Where we going? Cincinnati. Oh, Lord have mercy. Cincinnati. Ocho. Yeah. You do realize, hey,

we're going to be, we're starting in April. Do you realize we're going to be down there every weekend and then that pushes us into the summer tour. We won't be able

to do the summer tour. Hold on. We got a tour in the summer too? Yes. Well, goddamn, we touring like the goddamn Beatles.

Yeah, exactly. I like this. I like this. I like this. Yeah. Yeah. So I got to get my, you know what I'm thinking about? I got to get my outfits together because I got my nightcap stuff.

That's really important. I need to be like, I need a cameraman, too. I need a cameraman. So if anybody's in this chat, I need a cameraman so you know how the NFL players, they get out the car. Yeah. I need a videographer, whatever you call it. And I got to get my outfit. Videographer.

Yeah. We get it, yeah. I'm ready. Let's go. Let's go, Chad. The NFL is expected to expand its replay to assist to account for plays that could include quarterback slide over the offseason, according to Adam Schefter. Additional elements, including the slide, may be added,

especially after the divisional round playoffs as Patrick Mahomes drew a controversial unnecessary roughness penalty on the Texans while sliding in the third quarter of their postseason clash. He did a great job. He got a first down early today. He slid down. He slid down. Look, anything that's going to make it, anything that's going to make it,

get it right. Get it right. But it should, Ocho, hey, you go to the, hey, I go to the monitor. Uh-huh.

I don't need but one or two looks. Yeah. Man, that being that thing like three, four, five minutes, bro, it don't take you that long. I look one time.

That was a catch. Nah, that was a drop. You know what, you know what, sometime I think they doing? What is? I think someone could talk to the rest in their ear too.

Oh, they can. So I think. Yeah, they linked rest of their ear, too. Oh, they can! Yeah, they're linked in to, what you call them? Yeah, yeah, in my lawn. New York, right? I think that's what, and they're headquarters in Jersey. For real? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

I think sometimes they talk to the rest of their ear, I think that's why they're at the monitor so long. Because the call really, in the onus, in the final call, in the say, really isn't on the ref by itself. I'm just saying what I think. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely, they could, yes. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small.

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a shrewd, shrewd businessman. This opportunity, I'm shocked he did not see it. We have two teams in the NFC East in the NFC Championship game that's being played Sunday. All eyes are on them, the Eagles and the Commanders, our enemies on all fronts, and they're in a position that we haven't held in 30 effing years. The longest drought by any

NFC East team, period. Mike Zimmer to retire from coaching. Dallas is looking at Mike Eberflues to be their new DC. You understand? Wasn't he a linebacker coaching one time with the Cowboys? Yeah. Yeah. Ah.

Yes. I mean, the chat can't hear you what'd you say no I mean the chat can't hear you I mean can we get a microphone over there Zim look like he's going to retire what Mike is saying is like look now hold on wait a minute

y'all do realize that there's a rookie in the NFC Championship game. He's only going to get better. Okay, this is the second time in three years. The Eagles have been there. And it seems like Howie Roseman, Jeffrey Lurie, the owner, allows Howie Roseman. Look at what he's done. Yeah.

He goes and gets Saquon. He goes and gets A.J. Brown. He gets Zach Brown. He drafts Quinnian Mitchell. Mitchell. Bro. Cooper DeJohn. Blankenship.

Yep. They excited. No. Hey. Jalen Carter. Nolan Smith III. Jordan Davis. Bro.

Listen. They doing a number. They signed Jordan Maalata. Listen. They do it a number of years. They sign Jordan by a lot. Can I say something real quick? Yes. The NFL, right, Unc, when it comes to playing, when teams are running plays and they see and they watch film, you know, and they see something work on the opponent that you're getting ready to play, you know what the team always does?

The copycat. You put those plays in. Yeah, you put those plays in that you see work. So I'm thinking, well, it's kind of common sense, and it would be common sense. Now you see how Jeffrey Lurie and them are doing things, or you look at the landscape of the NFL, the teams that consistently win, how they draft,

how they bring in off-season acquisitions. It's okay to copy what they may be doing instead of continuously trying to do things your way. I'm not sure why Jerry's not taking that method. Listen, Philadelphia is right down the street. Look what Jeffrey Lurie and Harry Roseman have done. Look at the team that they have created. Year in and year out, they're making sure they put the best players around their quarterback

so they can be in contention every year. This is the second time they're going to the Super Bowl in what, four years? Three years. Come on, man. If anything, the team that's supposed to be making these kind of moves to make sure the status goes with the star symbol would be Jerry, would be the Dallas Cowboys. The Dallas Cowboys are supposed to be doing and making the moves that you see the Eagles making.

It all starts up top. It all starts at the front office and it trickles down, which is why they're having success year in and year out, and all you have to go off of and lean on as your crutch is what you've done 30 years ago. But that's neither here nor there. Maybe I'm wrong. You see Jeffrey Lauer? He's perfectly content.

Howie, I trust you. Build the best team you possibly can. Whatever it's going to take, I want to be able to compete for championships every single year. Not talk about him. Not talk about it. I mean, I think I've heard Jeffrey Luehr talk once, and he did a feature about his brother.

I think he has a feature about his brother. I think he has a brother that has special needs or something. I think that's the only, over the last year or so, that's really the only time I've ever heard Jeffrey Lurie talk. He's talking about his brother and how special his brother is to him. As a matter of fact, I ain't heard Clark Hunt talk. There are a lot of owners I ain't heard talk. I ain't heard Clark Hunt talk. There are a lot of owners I ain't heard talk. I ain't heard Josh Harris talk. I heard Josh Harris talk a little bit about, you know, good people,

let people do their job. Hey, boom, boom, boom. But other than Jerry Jones, Chad, can y'all tell me an owner that you've heard talk this year? Other than Jerry. I'm trying to think. Some owners don't even make themselves available.

Because CJ is not in that big four. I said the big four. Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. Do y'all believe CJ Stroud is in that group? Yes or no? I mentioned C.J.

He's in that next tier with Justin Herbert, with Bo Nix. Some of the other guys. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. Don't be trying to throw it. Don't try to sneak Bo Nix in there. You think he's slick. I heard you.

Bo threw for 29 touchdowns this year, Ocho. The second most ever for a rookie behind Justin Herbert's 31. Calm down. Calm down, little fella. I heard you. Bo threw for 29 touchdowns this year, Ocho. I'm just playing. The second most ever for a rookie behind Justin Herbert's 31. Calm down. Calm down, little fella. I'm just playing. And he made the playoffs. I know Bo Nix made the playoffs. I know a team that didn't make the playoffs.

Who? I ain't going to bring that up. That ain't got nothing to do with me. I don't even know why I'm mentioning it. But one thing about it, that team that didn't make the playoffs, them and Bo Nix and the rest of their team, they in the same place right now. Whoa, whoa, whoa, Joe. I'm just telling you.

We got to answer the check. We got to answer the check. We got to answer the check. Man, y'all stop. Y'all know good and well. Y'all know good and well CJ is not in that group with the big four.

And I think CJ is a great, is a very good player. But he's not, guys. Stop it. It's okay. It's okay. Just like there are certain levels. There are certain receivers and D linemen and so forth and so on.

You can be in a league, Ocho. Everybody in the league is very good to great, exceptional players. But everybody ain't on the same level. No, no, no, no. So let me ask you a question. Do you believe that the Houston Texans, if they say, you know what, we'll take, if the Houston Texans had an opportunity to trade straight up C.J. Stroud for Patrick Mahomes, would they keep C.J. or would they take Patrick Mahomes?

If you had an opportunity to take straight up Lamar Jackson for C.J. Stroud, would the Texans do it? Straight up Josh Allen, straight for CJ Stroud. Would the Texans do it? Straight up, Josh Allen. Straight up, Joe Burrow. Stop playing, chat. Yeah. Stop it. Yeah, chat. Stop playing. No good will. I'm just asking, honestly. Of course.

Of course. Now, I. Of course. Of course. Now, I flip that question. Those guys are untradeable. I don't believe either team would trade their guy. Everybody know, first of all, ain't nobody even calling Kansas City about Mahomes.

They're not calling. They're not calling Baltimore about Mahomes. I wonder how fast they were hanging the phone up if somebody did just out in the blue have you thought about trading for Pat click the first

if a P come out your mouth you better say pass or punt if it ain't pass or punt please If it ain't pass or punt. Please. Hey, that's funny. No, hell nah.

But I think Michael's frustration. And I think Dan Bryant said it also. Yeah, Dan did it. But I think Michael's frustration, though, Joe. He's looking. Jalen Hurst. Oh, yeah, yeah. Dan did it. But I think Michael's frustration though, Joe. He's looking. Jalen Hurst is what, 26, 27? See,

Jaden Daniels, 24. He's like, bro, these guys are young. And look at the success that the Eagles have had. The Eagles have been in the playoffs every year Hurst has been a starter.

This is the second time in three years they've been in the Super Bowl. Here's a rookie quarterback that's gone farther than any quarterback in the last 30 years than the Cowboys,

which is the NFC Championship game. Right. And you keep hiring these guys, Jerry. You keep doing it because you want credit and you're not doing

a great job. You think you are, but you're not. The proof's in the pudding. And look, like Ocho, you're like, you and I,

you know, I play for the Broncos and the Ravens, you play for Cincinnati. We sincerely, genuinely want to see those teams win. Absolutely.

Bro, I played in the division with my home. Man, I'm tired of my home going to the Super Bowl. I want my team to go. Yeah. Yeah. At least tired of Mahomes going to the Super Bowl. I want my team to go. Yeah.

Yeah. At least one of them. Damn. He ball-guarded the Super Bowl. D-Bow in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Straight D-Bow. So, uh... Mike is frustrated. Mike eat it. Yeah. I mean, he should be. He should be. Yeah. I mean, he should be.

He should be. A prominent figure that's a part of that star, part of that organization and his success during his time, voicing his opinion. But will hearing from Mike and his frustration... No. He already hired the man. He ain't 55. Will it change anything?

No. It hasn't changed anything. He ain't 55. Will it change anything? No. It hasn't changed anything. It hasn't changed anything in 30 years. Guess what's not going to change? Them being in the Super Bowl in the next 30, unless somebody else is in charge and do things differently. Get somebody and let them do their job. Jerry doesn't let the coach do their job.

He's already told him. Jason Wynn's going to be on that staff. What is Jason Wynn going to do? You know what's going to happen? He's the coach you their job. He's already told him. Jason Witten's going to be on that staff. What is Jason Witten going to do? You know what's going to happen? He's the coach-in-waiting. Jerry said he's going to be the coach-in-waiting. Man, don't...

And, if I'm not mistaken, he won coach of the year and Jerry's own foundation donated money to the school. Hey, that's legal? Yeah. Okay. It's a donation. Oh, yeah. Now, that's legal? Yeah. Okay. It's a donation.

Oh, yeah. Oh, that's crazy, man. Hey, it's so funny. They find a way into the headlines, huh? Who that? The Cowboys. Oh, yeah. Well, he did that, but it ain't still no headlines.

Because Brian, first of all, he doesn't move the needle. And second of all, he tried to suppress some of that Eagles, two teams in his division. Right. So he's trying to steal some. He's trying to let some of the air out of the bloom. But it didn't work because the Eagles, this is their second time in three years in the Super Bowl.

That's crazy. The Eagles hadn't been, excuse me, the Washington, the Commanders, hadn't been to an NFC Championship game since the last time, if I'm not mistaken, they won the Super Bowl. You know what, the Cowboys. It was 92. Mm-hmm. You know what? 91 season, 92 Super Bowl.

The Cowboys, you know what, Jerry, I know you're going to see this. Dak, I know Dak watched the show too. So just FYI, I'm just letting you know what Jerry I know you're going to see this Dak I know Dak watched the show too so just FYI I'm just letting you know Dak if you see this CD Lamb um I got the perfect scenario got the perfect situation that can counter

the success in all senior acquisitions that the Eagles are getting now I'm going to get this to you right now, live in front of everybody. If you want to win the NFC, East consistently, year in and year out,

there's one dude you can bring in that changes the dynamic for everything, even with what they have in Saquon. This counters that. One thing you can do. Simple. What? Bring me in to play receiver.

That's it. They already got a lot of guys that can't get open. Who can't get open? You. Boy, that's me. You must have forgot. You better. You better.

You must have forgot. That's when that guy put them clamps on you last year. You must have forgot. You better, you better. You must have forgot. I was the only guy putting them clamps on you last year. You must, hey, you must have forgot. That guy put them clamps on you. Hey, I'm still me. Ain't nothing changed. The only thing I lost is opportunity. That's it.

The only thing, the only, that man lost, the only thing he didn't say, you have the right to remain silent. Hey, you heard what I said, right? Anything that you say can and will, you get. Hey, listen. You heard what I said. Hey, hold on. Come get it. Hold on what you said. Hey, uh, come get it. Hold on.

I said, I don't want none of that. Hey, CD Dak, y'all want to make history? Come holler at your boy. Huh? Come holler at your boy. I know I'm a little on the heavy side right now. I'm 6'3", about 240. I can get down quick.

Ocho, can I ask you a question? Talk to me. They keep talking about the NFL is rigged. Why haven't they rigged it for the Cowboys? I mean, the Cowboys is the most popular team, the most valuable franchise. Why haven't they rigged it for the Cowboys? Hey, could you imagine if the Chiefs were the Cowboys

or the roles were reversed? First of all, Ocho, the Cowboys had a chance to be the Chiefs, and Jerry Effort ruined it. What don't people understand about that? Wait, how? He had that. In the 90s when he fired Jimmy.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He had Troy, Emmitt, and Michael. Right. A dominant offensive line. Yeah. A dominant defense. He ruined it. He had the Chiefs and the Patriots before the Chiefs and the Patriots.

Right. Damn. So the NFL, so here's the thing. They got the Cowboys, the most marketable franchise, the most valuable franchise in pro sports, but they have yet to rig it for them. Why? I always

thought to myself, when people say the NFL is rigged, I always thought to myself, you got 53 players on the squad, right? They go to meetings, they go to practice, they got more meetings, they go to play, they go to scripts, 15- more meetings, they go to play, they go through scripts,

15-play script before, you know, at the start of the game. I mean, and then scripted how? How do you get all 11 people on the same page? That's only fans that team doesn't win. That's people that, first of all, that's people that don't know.

You and I both played. We played the game. i i disregard i did you know we we sometimes we have to answer that and i hate that we have to answer that on on first take right but that's people that don't understand do you know how many moving parts that you have to have too many they have to have them go right though at that and then have him go right on that PI that they're calling the end zone you okay with that? the one they call on Marshawn Latimer on AJ Brown on the crossing route against Devontae Smith

no he called, yo Devontae are y'all okay with that? I don't think you should throw a flag in that situation you know what I'm saying? that was PI you see all I'm doing is making a P.I. You see? All I'm doing is making a point.

When a guy P.I. is a P.I., whether it's the first quarter, second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter. They want to look at it at that point in the game is too critical. Bro, it's a pass interference. The guy jumped outside and Oliver jumps outside. You're talking about, oh, what about the holding call? Dumb, dumb. Mm-hmm. The guy, you're talking about,

oh, what about the holding call? Dumb, dumb. If he doesn't jump outside, he doesn't have to hold it. You do realize once you can, once you commit a foul,

Right. It supersedes anything that happens after that. Mm-hmm. I'm like, come on. I get it. You want your team to win. Yeah. I get it. But come on now. Y'all just, y on. I get it. You want your team to win. Yeah.

I get it. But come on now. Y'all just say anything. But you know what, Ocho? I'm not surprised. That's why we in the position. People believe anything. And all that, just like that guy that said,

the guy went on his TikTok video and said, President Trump said, you know what? Child support. The women, it goes to the man. He going to be able to write the tax off. And then he come back and say, President Trump said, you know what? Child support. The women, it goes to the man. He's going to be able to write the tax off. And then he come back and say, and everybody believed it.

He made it up. Yeah. He did. Everybody believed it. Had people talking about, hey, that's what I like to hear. Because if I'm paying,

I should be able to write this. See? You see that? Just like that, Ocho. All you got to do, you know, most of the time when you read stuff,

you can do your research a little bit. You know, Safari, you have Google, you have to do, you know, most of the time when you read stuff, you can do your research a little bit. You know, Safari, you have Google, you have a huge machine behind you that can research facts, and you can fact-check things before you read them. And the fact that what he said caught wind that fast, and so many people believed it, without fact-checking? You don't need facts anymore. You don't, Ocho.

Yeah, they just run with it, huh? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Damn. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you.

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so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action, and that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing.

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And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation

nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you please do to hear the whole story listen to fiasco iran contra on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts also a woman posted a very interesting video this week let's take a look at it

so there's a stat on facebook and basically it says men are not obsessed with women like they used to be y'all don't find that kind of weird and to be honest no i don't find that kind of weird so it seems to me like a lot of y'all are now starting to realize that you're either losing value or have lost value from chasing attention and now that's something that y'all got to deal with and y'all can't face that fact oh joe uh-huh i like? Slightly agree? I mean, it varies. It depends. You know, I think men are a little bit more now focused on just themselves, you know,

focused on work, getting to the bag, and allowing the woman to be the last choice of importance as opposed to how it was before, you know, chasing the woman, chasing, chasing, applying pressure, doing all that. And most of the time,

which you have to understand too, is women put up such a front with the chasing and applying pressure as if there's something that's so different about them as opposed to anyone else that you could deal with. But then when you actually get a hold and you get to learn that individual and you're allowed access, you come to find out, well, goddamn, I've been doing all this chasing for this, but you ain't no different than nobody else. It's all the same.

You know, at the end of the day, i think men's focal point has changed from chasing women the more focusing on themselves work family if if that that comes into play and it just it just it's just different now it's just different now especially in today's era where we have a lot more women that are are in i hate using the word alpha positions but they are the men now does that make sense yeah women women are the men you know they did a lot of women but see when you keep saying i don't need a man i don't need a man, I don't need a man. Yeah. Then you convince yourself. And then you want to be masculine because you think you can talk to, at the end of the day, that's still a man.

Mm-hmm. And I'm not saying, look, I'm old and know how my grandmother and how I saw everybody raised. Right. See, these women today, they talk about, oh, I want to be treated like my mom and my great-grandma got to treat, but y'all don't behave like that. Y'all ain't cooking. Y'all ain't cooking no meal every day. When my grandfather got home at lunch, meal on the table.

He got home at dinner, meal on the table. He ate first. It wasn't no arguing back and forth. Right. When my grandfather said they can, they can, they did. When he said they couldn't, they couldn't.

Yeah. But y'all, oh, I'm going to do me. Okay, we'll do you. I don't have to be a part of it. Yeah.

And so, I think the thing is that they've convinced themselves they don't need a man until they need a man. And then you're 24, now you're 45, now you're 50. Now your're 45. Now you're 50.

Now your options are limited. Right. Yeah. I don't think women understand that the options are limited, especially today, especially for what they want. When you look at their expectations and what they expect and what they're looking for,

it's very hard. It's very hard to get. No, Ocho, it's very hard. It's very hard to get. No, Ocho, it's not hard. But here's the thing. What you want, got to want you. Ooh, that's a good one. See, that's the problem. Okay, you want a guy.

Oh, he needs to be over six foot tall. Oh, he needs to make six figures. Oh, he needs to do this. Well, every time you throw out something that he needs to be, you throw a whoop, a percentage. 15, 20 percent. Whoop. Whoop. Whoop. So now you're down to 5 percent. That 5 percent

of the man that you want, that's over 6 foot tall, that has a nice body, that makes 6 figure, that's well to do, does he want you? Damn. And most of the type of men that they want, you know, is part of the 1%, huh?

Absolutely. So it puts the dudes that are in the 1%, they just get to pick who they want. It's hard. It's hard for something to add value to increase in value yeah that gets that constantly gets used you know this is what i said ocho yeah say it again say it again name something that increase in value that's constantly get used you told me about my ferrari you say buy that ferrari but put it up. A bottle of wine.

Philippe Rothschild, Petrus, Caymus. Right. 1942. They ain't drinking it. I'm just saying. Wait a minute.

I don't even think the chat heard you. Do me a favor. Say, man, let me get my motherfucking pen and paper because that man, hold on.

You're going to have to bring that to me again. Hold on. I'm not going to bring that to me again hold on i'm not gonna use that yeah because i'm gonna have to use that i'm gonna use that at sunday service boy well you just dropped in the gym right there. And I don't even think the chat was paying attention. Yeah, because everything, you know, Ocho, I want somebody at least six foot tall.

I want somebody at least 200 pounds. I want somebody that make at least six figures. I want somebody that go to church. I want somebody that like to travel. So you name six things that you like. Right. Okay. You find that guy, but he's only probably in the 1%. So that 1% of the men that you're looking for, is he looking for the 15 to 20% of the women that's looking for him? So now if he's not, so now you, oh, I'm valuable. Oh, I'm this oh I'm valuable

oh I'm this I'm that huh right right right they know they know they worth they know they worth worth is what someone is willing to pay for something niggas Tom Brady can list his house

for 150 million but after I guarantee you after six months over a year Tom Brady can list his house for $150 million. Come on, man. But I guarantee you after six months over a year, that house ain't sold, I guarantee you he dropped the price. Okay. So now,

if somebody comes in and says, Tom, he want $150 million. I give you $100 million cash. Uh-huh. Okay, I take it. That's what the house was worth. See, you don't get to determine your worth

if somebody's not paying for it. Ooh. Boy. That's what women got to understand. You keep saying, are you buying yourself? Are you purchasing yourself? Mm-hmm.

So where's the value? Value is only, something is only valuable if somebody will purchase it. I want $600,000 for this tube of lip therapy. It's worth $7. They got to stop this notion of, I know my worth I know my worth your worth is what someone is willing to pay for it that's what worth is

look up the dictionary look up worth in the dictionary as a matter of fact I'm gonna google it google it my damn self hey wait you preaching today you what

what you know I you know, it also. When I think about is is in general, women, they put themselves in unwinnable positions at times, you know, they play hard to get. They're very difficult. They create this perception that all the work the man is going to put in in the end you know it's yeah they're just they're just getting this oh my goodness this is so much different than everybody else when when in hindsight once you are gained access to it it's no different than anybody else that's why they play the difficult game in the beginning. That's why they make you jump through hoops and make you jump through

obstacles because there's really nothing at the end of that light or at the end of that tunnel. You know? I don't know what I'm working on. It's not a bad thing. We're all human. What do you do that's so special than the next person? Cook.

Can you cook? Hey, can you cook some oxtails i need to know can you cook oxtails what am i saying can you cook breakfast grits eggs sausage bacon french toast pancakes what can you okay what about uh eggs benedict make hollandaise sauce okay okay you can't do that okay what what what can you do? What's the, this value that you speak of, what is it? Because I just want you to know a little something. Everything that you do, I can pay somebody to do it. Cook, clean, get my dry cleaning.

Hey, I don't pay them to sleep with me. I pay them to leave. So I'm just trying to say, so where's the value? What can you do for me that I can't have somebody do everything that you do so if i'm with you i really want to be with you so if you choose it to so hold on you pay him you sleep with you pay him to leave you're not paying i ain't paying for the sex i'm paying you to get out hold on hold on let me write that down let me write that down so I can use that in my next argument. So I just want to know if I'm with you, I ain't playing

no games with you. Right. Do you understand that I'm not? Mm. I jump on a plane to come see you, you best believe you mean something. Hold on, huh? You flew to somebody before?

Man. So all this stuff, oh, this, I don't, hey, I'm just kidding. I keep a five with y'all. So all this going back and forth, I don't care nothing about that.

Because all I know, you keep saying you're worth this, you're worth that. That property ain't been purchased in a long time, then, huh? Yes. Well, you just have to wait. Look like you're going to have to drop the price on it. But they have to wait for a buyer to come along, huh? You know, that's life. That's the way it works.

I understand. And you know what? Something about our beautiful women, something about our beautiful women in this world, we can't live without them. We can't live without them. There's always somebody for everybody. And just at what point is your person going to come along?

That's willing. That's it. That's willing to buy or pay whatever you feel that worth may be. And my thing is, Ocho, I don't even feel like I'm the prize. I don't tell no woman I'm the prize. No, no. But you better. I don't know who told you that.

It told you wrong if you think you're the prize. That's a great topic, too, Unc. That's a great topic. Women feeling like they are the prize and understanding what they bring to the table, I think some of them might be. What? Despite us being the providers.

What? Some might be the prize. You don't think so? No, we're both the prize. I want to be with you. Hopefully you want to be with me. I think you're special. I wouldn't be with you if I didn't think you were special.

Yeah. I'm not going to waste your time. More importantly than that, I'm not wasting mine. Because you can't get that back. I can't buy it back. Yes. So I just think the thing is sometimes like, man, let's just be real here. I'm going to treat you with the ultimate respect. If you got got a kid i'll treat that kid as if it was mine i'll never be

disrespectful to you i'll never call you out of your name i'll never do anything right but this man these women i mean they they they quit man they quit i'm the prize i know my worth well because you know they be they be looking good huh you know and you know you know do you know how many women look good i know it's so many and you know what i don't like on can can you address it because i don't know how to put in the words why do women always feel because they look good because we base everything off of looks because obviously men because men are very visual visual we base everything off of looks. Because obviously men... Because men are very visual. Visual. We're visual creatures.

We're very visual creatures, yes. Why the first thing, if you do mess up, the first thing people say is, oh, he fumbled me. Huh? No, actually, no, no, no, no.

Fumble is a situation where I'm running and somebody knocks it out of my hand. Right. I punted you. I punted. It wasn't a fumble. Yeah.

Right, right, right. Yeah. Yeah, everything. I realized, like, I realizedted. It wasn't a fun. Yeah. Right, right, right. Yeah. Yeah, everything. I realized, like, I realized I couldn't get any more yards. Right. Let somebody, hey,

let the next guy catch it. Hopefully he fair caught it. But he might have, he might have let it go over his head and into the end zone. I don't know, man. It's just, listen,

we can't live without them. They can't live without us. It's all about finding your person. It's all about finding your person. And if you have, if you, if you sisters, if you have sisters, if you're watching ladies, if you have a standard, whatever that standard may be, whatever that value or worth you may think you have you stick to it you stick to it until your until your guy comes along i don't care how long it takes you know i'm gonna make sure you're gonna you're gonna win matter of fact ladies if you're in the chat you don't have a man right now the holiday is coming up valentine's is coming up send me a message on Twitter. I guarantee you I have you a man and some gifts and dinner

before Valentine's Day. I'm playing matchmaker. Because I know your value. I know your worth. I'm going to make sure you get your man. I hope everybody, like you said, there's somebody for everybody. I hope they find that person.

But I'm just tired of hearing every time I be, oh, I know my value. I'm this and that. Look here. I guarantee you, go scroll on IG. They got on YSL. They got on Tom Ford. Right. They got a Gucci bag.

They got a Louis bag. They got a Chanel bag. They got a Birkin bag. They got a G-Wagon or they got a Range Rover. They got this. So I'll tell you what's the differentiating factor. Whether you got fillers, whether you got a BBL, whether you got booze. I don't, and I'm not judging.

I don't care. That's your body. That's your money. I just ain't paying for it. I'm just saying, you want lip fillers, you want Botox, you want BBL, you want lipo, get it. That's your body. I don't tell nobody what, I've never told a woman what to do with her body.

I just want you to know I'm not paying for it. Right. Because I'm not fattening a frog for another snake to eat. Ooh. I remember that one. Yeah. So I'm just saying, take off. If y'all want whatever you want, whatever that you think is going to enhance.

Right. I go to the gym because I want to feel, I want to, it makes me feel good. Me too. But if y'all want to go, hey, if y'all want to do whatever y'all want to do, I'm all for you ladies. I'm never going to,

oh, I can't believe you did. That is your body. That is, that is, that is your temple. You do whatever as you see fit. Right.

That's just not me. Oh, Joe, now it's time for our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Damn, we leaving already? Man, it's almost not me. Oh, Joe, now it's time for our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. Damn, we leaving already? Man, it's almost two hours. Man, that thing was getting good.

Boy, you were preaching tonight, right? Ooh, that was a good one. That done got me some good notes. Big Mike said, congrats, Kansas City refs. I mean, chief. Come on, Big Mike. Hey, Big Mike, you still on the refs, huh? Yeah. That's funny.

Headhunter said, no, he's absolutely being helped by the refs' calls. No, I'm not saying he's not great, but no other team gets these calls. You're flat wrong with these calls not swaying games. He's getting generational calls. It's obvious. But that's not what the penalty situation says.

Right. He gets fewer calls for the amount of dropbacks than any other quarterback in the league. Yeah. We talked about this the other night. He gets fewer calls going against them in situations than most teams. So y'all said the same thing about Brady. Y'all said the same thing about Brady. Y'all said the same thing about the Patriots.

Y'all said the same thing about Kansas, uh, Joe. We just didn't hear it. But in the barbershop, when you're talking to that man, Kansas, I mean the chief,

I mean the 49ers, how they went all this. You all, when someone is winning, there has to be a trick to why he's winning. Yep. Or why they're winning. I mean,

the guy did hold. It just happened to be at the most inopportune time. Every time. It's just like a turnover. Mahomes turned it over in the first. Now,

let's just say for the sake of argument, they're down or the score is tied and he had that same turnover with four minutes left. You see? Turnovers weigh differently

at different times of the game. Penalties weigh differently. But if there's a chance if I'm beat, I'm going to hold, Ocho. That's what we're taught. Martin Muhammad, hey,

are you talking about past greatness? Don't forget your phrase, 17 of the 20 playoff stars. Can I interest you in that? Also, your dog is big and beautiful. What kind of dog is it? It's a Borbo,

which is a South African Mastiff. It's from the Mastiff breed, but it's a South African Mastiff. It's from the Mastiff breed, but it's a South African Mastiff. It's called a Borbo. Yes. 17 and 20 playoff starts. 17 and 3. That's crazy.

Five Super Bowls in seven years. People don't understand how crazy that is. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say,

hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself

to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news

show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, whyall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull, will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms,

even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.

What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986,

Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. No one was let go. at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafak, co-creator of Slow Burn.

In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin

to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the

iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jura Anthony Rojas,

Chiefs are the best team each year. I wouldn't be surprised if they were victorious against the Eagles. They're without a doubt the most well-prepared, the most well-prepped, well-prepared team for sure. And they've been in these moments, Ocho, so they're not going to beat themselves. No. They're not going to beat themselves.

Mahomes isn't going to beat himself or a team that's in the wrong way. And that's what he's been very, very good at is protecting the ball in the right moments. And when he gets the opportunity, he always makes the play. Always makes the play. The great ones always. That's how you become great. If Brady didn't come through in those moments Ocho

would Brady be the goat would he be what he became it's because he came through in those moments more times than not that's how you get the Jordans, the Birds the Magics, the LeBrons the Steph Currys

the Kobe's that's how you get, that's how you become these mythical figures the Steph Currys, the Kobe's. That's how you become these mythical figures by being when it matters the most, you show up and you complete the mission. Oh, yeah. Kahari Vonson, Uncle Nocho, what do you think about the game for real? No questionable cause.

Do you think the Chiefs still cheat? Andy Reid, I'm a Packers fan, but I love Andy. How do... Help me understand the Chiefs. How do they do it? Once upon a time, Ocho, when the money is not what... What incentive it is for a player.

Now, we saw Tim Donahue. He got caught. I think Michael Porter Jr., brother, he got caught doing some funny business. Could the refs theoretically? Sure, they could. Yeah. Absolutely. But they could do that in every sport.

But see, I noticed when y'all don't like somebody, y'all question it. Ain't nobody ever said Jordan got favorable calls. You ever heard that, Ocho? No. You ever heard that with Kobe? Uh-uh. Never. Never.

Nah, Mahomes that good. Andy Lopez said, Uncle Ocho, KC Nettie said, this part is second to none. I hope the game ended refs in our favor, BS, with it being said, she's by 10 in the bowl.

Ocho, I'll smoke you in FIFA. Man, I don't, hell, the Chiefs ain't won, what, they only won one Super Bowl by 10 that was the first one

31-21 and they were down 21-10 right they were down 21-10 to San Francisco

in their first Super Bowl win and then they rolled up 21 straight I don't know it's hard to see me somebody

beating beating Philly by 10 they're playing way too well. T-Walker, you asked what Josh needs to do. Hi, Tonya Harding.

That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. If Mahomes three-peat, he's the goal. There's no conversation. MJ is considered the goal with six rings, while Bill Russell won 11, seven straight.

Brady won seven. Just means more confidence all time, like BR in the NBA. What you think, Ocho? He three-piece? He the goal? That's what I said. That's what I said to you earlier. I said, maybe we need to have a conversation. You said, no, we can't have a

conversation yet. If he happens to do it for four fourth time in a row, then yes, we do. I think the thing is, Ocho, look, if I like somebody, I'm going to make an argument why he's the GOAT. Right. Because I want him to do, see, if I do something, if he does something, we didn't say, well, join the GOAT because he's free. Well, Bill Russell was 7'8 straight. Oof.

Is that more than a three-peat? Right. But if we, Ocho, if I like you, I'll make a compelling argument. Right. It's just like politics. If I like you, I'm going to vote for you. Right. Damn what you may or may not have done.

Mm-hmm. That's how it works in sports. It always has, always will. Yeah. Revis? I don't know if y'all love what y'all do, but didn't Brady beat Mahomes twice

in the AFC Championship game in Arrowhead? Yes. So let me ask you a question. So is Nick Foles, Nick Foles, so Eli beat Brady twice in the Super Bowl,

the biggest game. So what'd that make Eli? I'm just curious. I mean, y'all want to use the argument. So what does that make Eli if he took Brady down twice? I'm just curious I mean y'all would have used that argument so what does that make Eli if he took Brady down twice

Peyton beat Brady three times in the AFC championship game what does that make Manny Nick Foles beat him Joe Flacco beat you see how y'all make the argument you see how your argument falls apart Manning. Nick Foles beat him. Joe Flacco beat him. You see how y'all make the argument? You see how your argument falls apart? If that's the criteria y'all using?

Eli beat Tom Brady twice in the Super Bowl with an undefeated team. Mm-hmm. Mm. Mm. hmm hmm talking about what has Eli done beat Brady twice in the Super Bowl

uh gentlemen player Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen have one victory combined versus Pat Mahomes in the playoffs what does that say about those three quarterbacks? What does that say about Pat Mahomes? You know what it says. You're asking a question.

You asked a question and answered it at the same time. You know what it says. He's great. Ain't no denying that. Ain't a whole lot of people. Hey, look. Seven years, he's 20, he's 17 and three. He's played unbelievable.

Just because he's great, that doesn't mean that they're not. Yeah. Because they are. They're good. And that's what I always say. Ocho. Really good. Eli beating Tom Brady doesn't take away from Brady.

Mm-mm. It accentuates him. Give him credit. Give Nick Foles credit. Give Joe Flacco credit. It's okay. Mm-hmm. Two things can be true.

They can be great and not beat Patrick Mahomes. I mean, what? Two things can be true. They can be great and not beat Patrick Mahomes. I mean, what? Slime God say Burr has missed the playoffs and or not finished the season in three or five years. He's played. He can't be in Mahomes, Allen, Lamar conversation. Joe Burr went to a Super Bowl. Other than Mahomes, which one of Lam. Joe Burrow went to a Super Bowl. Other than Mahomes,

which one of Lamar or Allen has been to the Super Bowl? Joe Burrow has played in two AFC Championship games. Has Allen played in two AFC Championship games? Or one? I think he's played two.

He lost. He lost. So this is his second. No, that year Mahomes lost to Cincinnati. They beat the Titans one year. They beat Buffalo one year. They beat Buffalo one year. They beat Cincinnati and they beat Baltimore.

So they beat Buffalo twice, Cincinnati once, Baltimore. Right. So they lost Buffalo, they beaten Buffalo they beaten Buffalo twice they beat

Cincinnati once they beat Tennessee and they beat Baltimore right Baltimore twice

Buffalo Cincinnati Tennessee five five championship game uh

Jeton Justice chat what are the Giants thinking right now the LCS championship game. Jaton Justice, chat. What are the Giants thinking right now? Don't look. I ain't got no problem with you. You wanted to move on.

But I don't like is what that GM did. Yeah. And he put it on hard knocks. Do you know how pompous and arrogant, bro? Yeah. And then you gonna talk about,

oh, you know, knowing. They know, they offered him something that he knew he wasn't gonna take. Yeah, on purpose. They knew that. Purpose.

And then, you know, we feel we owe you that. You owe me? And then you have the nerve to talk about, oh, you know, circle back, you know, give us a chance. Man, please. Right. The one thing I can

say about Saquon, Saquon is very, very professional. He handles everything with class. I kind of hear like, bro, he said, I've made it clear where I wanted to be. But that's not where y'all want me. Because the thing is, is that when my brother told me when I left Denver, he said, Shannon, when they want you, you never become a free agent.

Ever. Laura and Christy Buffenmeier, we love you guys. We are so curious to see Ash in the background and maybe get her mic'd up and watch Ocho say 37-11 podcast, but Nightcap is the best. Ash likes being a producer. She likes being behind the scenes. What's good, Nightcap? Question for Uncle Ocho.

Do y'all have a favorite player who was underrated in the past or present? Players like Herman Moore Jr., Seau, Vinson Jackson, to me were good players, but overlooked. What do y'all think? Not Jr. I was in the era with Jr. And rest his soul, he was phenomenal.

You never knew where he was going to be. He was one of the hardest guys because he's supposed to be in pass coverage and he's in the backfield. Bro, what are you doing? What are we doing? That is so unsound. I used to hear the stories.

Shannon Crowder used to tell me the stories about when he was with the Dolphins. It was so funny, man. No rhyme or reason. And we know. And the defense, what the defense calls for. Yeah. He doing his own thing. Own.

Own thing. I played against Herman. Herman was, Herman had some great years. Oh, yeah. He just happened to play in the era with my brother, Chris Carter, Jerry. He was in the NFC. Yeah. And you had Andre Risen.

Yeah, it was Herman Moore, Johnny Morton. Remember Johnny Morton? Yeah. Johnny Morton. Brett Perriman. Brett Perriman, yeah. With Barry

in the backfield. Doc Morrison, as far as NFL owners talking, you know, like David Tepper wants to be Jerry Jones. Look at the track record of teams

and his wife control as head of Tepper Sports, eight, seven NFL coaches and six MLS coaches in seven years. Yeah. I mean, they really trying to run it like a business where you change the CEO and you might get some instant success. But when you change coaches like that, you don't. Because when you change coaches, you change systems. I just thought about something.

What is that? He said six different head coaches. Is Charlotte FC, David Tepper owns Charlotte FC? Yep. Why did I know? They just signed a very good friend of mine, Wilfred Zaha. Very good player. Played in the Premier League for a very long time,

from Crystal Palace, played at Galatasaray. Now he's down here in the States. You know, a good move for MLS. Wait a minute, I didn't know David Tepper owned Charlotte FC. Who do you think owned it? I had no idea. How many people in Charlotte do you think got $10 billion enough to put $125 million into a soccer team?

Damn. That's dope. That's dope. Frey Palomero said, Cowboys need to get Miles Garrett, but they're too cheap and stupid. How they gonna pay? That's impossible. Because he wants a new contract. And they gotta pay

Micah. J213 said, what's your favorite cartoon back in the day Tom and Jerry always had me rolling much love both always

will you ever do nightcap tour in Boston what's your favorite cartoon growing up Ocho oh man

I probably had to say probably Fragger Rock and that's not even a cartoon well it is it's sort of a cartoon I don't know if you remember Fraggle Rock I don't even know if anybody in the chat is young enough to remember Fraggle Rock you mean old enough I mean I'm sorry old enough to remember Fraggle Rock

man Fraggle Rock was my that was my thing and it's really not even the cartoon but probably Fraggle Rock and the Jetsons I like the Jetsons too hell they might not even remember the Jetsons probably not that was a 70s cartoon uh man I used to want I always wanted the coyote to beat the hell out of Bugs Bunny though man I wanted I said man and you just catch him one time and just beat his ass

one time Leona Rose said what's up what's up do you guys remember your very first pet what would you guys remember

what would you guys recommend so what would you guys recommend someone to get love the show yeah i mean my first pet i remember my first pet clear it wasn't mine it was we i mean we didn't get pets as individuals you got you know in a family pet right my but you know we had hogs i had we had a hog named sunny I had hogs named Sonny, had one named Bruce, had one named Marvin, had one named Bill. Damn. Yeah, it was a pet. You think you can pet and let it walk and ride?

That was a pet. A pet? Yeah. Oh, Kelly, we had a Duroc, a Duroc male named Kelly. Duroc, he's the red. Right. Kelly ain't play. Kelly ain't play.

Kelly cut butt. We had to put Kelly up. Kelly fighting all the males. Really? Oh, hell yeah. You can't have a couple of males. We had a half shot. Sonny was the biggest one we had.

Sonny probably weighed about 600 pounds. But we had two Yorkshire, Bill and had one named Bill, one named Marvin. They were all white. Average size, probably about 250, 300. Right. But Kelly, that do rock. I remember my uncles had to catch him, and my grandfather clipped his,

because his tusks had started to grow, and took boat cutters and cut his tusks. Dang. So, yeah, hogs, but we had dogs. We had a Joe boy. We had, you know, my grandfather used to have hunting dogs before. Then my uncles and them all had hunting dogs. But probably my first dog that I had that I can say that's mine,

I had two Rottweilers named Kane and Killian. I remember my first dog. My first dog, obviously, it was my grandmother's choice. It wasn't my choice. We had a Bichon Frise named Studley. Bichon Frise. Bichon Frise named Studley. I'll never forget. Bijan Frise. Bijan Frise. Name,

name studly. I, I never forget. I never forget. That, that was, I was the first dog and, you know,

he passed away and all. That, that was enough for me. Oh, that, that was, that was enough for me. And I, I had the nerve to,

to try again. And I, I gave, I gave, I gave, I had, um, two knee, you gave away? Yeah, I had two Neapolitan. You gave away?

Yeah, I had two Neapolitan Mastiffs. Yeah. I said, you know what, y'all will be in better hands with someone else. And I gave them to someone responsible. I think EJ. I think Edrin James,

if I'm not mistaken. And I knew he would be in good hands with EJ, I just couldn't do it. I couldn't, I couldn't bear to deal with that kind of thing. That pain, boy.

No, man. No, man. No. Tiger Five Stripes. What's up, Ocho? My birthday is tomorrow. I'll be 27 on the 27th. Can I get a birthday shout-out?

Ocho, any advice for a single man my age with no kids who recently moved to Texas? P.S. Saquon MVP. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You a single man talking about you just moved to Texas and you ain't got no kids? I'll get you to the end of the year. Ah!

Boy, you a single man talking about you just moved to Texas? Boy, have you seen the material in Texas? Boy, what you talking about? Let me ask you a question. Is it going to be one or two or two for two? Girl and kid or just one or the other? Two for two. Man, please.

Boy, for one, for one, hey, happy birthday, young boy. Happy birthday. Yeah, happy birthday, bro. I don't even know what part of Texas you in, but it don't matter because they all over the place. You hear me? They all over the place.

I've been to Texas maybe three, one, two, three, maybe four times in the entirety of my life. And the last time I've been there, I don't got to be there no more to understand, to have a great understanding. That's not where I belong.

It's not where I belong. And I know if you move to Texas, you ain't got no kids, you just got there, that means you fresh meat for them, which also means you're a fresh face. I give you by December, she's going to be pregnant.

And she's going to have a short haircut too. They down there. Oh, they down there, boy. Little Ninja 24, hey, Uncle Nocho, just want to say I love you guys. Can you give me and my wife a shout-out? We just had a baby 11 days ago.

I appreciate y'all. Great night. Absolutely. Congratulations, Little Ninja 24, to you and your wife and the baby. Hopefully, mom and baby are happy and safe and healthy. Yeah. That's a big accomplishment. Hey, your child, the child might not know they know. It's nothing but Super Bowls and healthy. Yeah. That's a big accomplishment. Hey, your child, the child might not only know,

it's nothing but Super Bowls and winning. I mean, just think, just think if you were a five-year-old, you don't know nothing but winning. That's it. Like if you was born in 2000, your whole career, you born in Boston, Massachusetts, you're a Patriots fan, all you know is winning the Super Bowl. That's it, yeah.

That's crazy. But congratulations, bro. Appreciate that, man. Thanks for the support. Ben 10, hey, Uncle Nocho, love to show my birthday is Tuesday. Can I get a shout out? Ben 10, happy early birthday, man. Hope you got something fun planned.

Don't get in any trouble. Yeah. But, bro, we thank you for watching us. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for your support and your continued support. So, thank you for that. That concludes...

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