Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: The Darvin Ham problem, Reggie Bush's Heisman returned

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Gilbert Arenas discuss if the Lakers have any chance of coming back against the Denver Nuggets, Reggie Bush getting his Heisman Trophy back, and whether or not Unc should date Jeff Bezos' ex-wife. 00:00 Darvin Ham on AD comments10:00 Jokic Brothers16:30 Reggie Bush Gets Heisman Back30:00 Charlie Villanueva Reveals Illinois Recruited Him With 5 Girls And Private Jet #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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that the Lakers have stretches when they don't know what they're doing as frustration, and he'll agree to disagree ham said the Lakers coaching staff prides itself on being organized does darvin ham ever take accountability for anything is he right obviously we don't think he's the right coach but do you think that game was on d ham on on the other night deal absolutely not no okay absolutely all right listen d ham is not on the other night Absolutely not Absolutely not Listen, D-Ham is not on the court He's not on the court When you're up by 20

As players, I don't care what substitutions are being made, you gotta hold yourself accountable and play goddamn basketball True Come on now, we can't continue to say, oh you know what we don't know what we're doing sometimes on the court the hell you goddamn say you don't boy it's the NBA this is the playoffs you know what you got to do you already know what time it is the fact that you throw your coach

under the bus even though you might not have meant for it to mean that can't throw your coach under the bus like that come on AD and you you had a hell of a game you had a hell of a game. You had a hell of a game. The Lakers can't play any better than what they just played the other night. Sometimes, the team you're playing just happens to be better than you when there's nothing you can do about it. You got to blame, the only person they got to blame is

Jokic. That's it. That's all you can blame. He decided to turn it on. What quarter is it? Y'all ready? I got 12 good minutes. Let's get on out of here. But here's the thing. This is what people don't realize. You think about this.

Anthony Davis is a premier defender. It's a joke that he wasn't the finest defensive player of the year. Jokic walked him down under the basket and get anything that he wasn't the finest defensive player of the year. Jokic walked him down under the basket and get anything that he want when it matters. But that's not fair. Look at the size difference.

You know what I look at is when I'm watching Jokic and he has go-to moves, right? He's trying to get to his right hand. No matter what he does, he's coming back to his right. Just like a left-handed person. They're trying to get, no matter what they do over here, they're trying. So the fact that he can still get to his right

lets me know you're not studying the man himself. There's team defenses, but sometimes you have to study him, his mannerisms, his tics. This is when you sit at home. He's done beat you so bad.

You should just have Jokic on your replay, watching what he does when he shoots. What is this telltale sign? Like a boxer, right? There's little things that they do to let you know they're about to throw a jab or throw a hook. Same thing in basketball.

There's things that Jokic does that let you know when he's trying to go right. And the fact that he can still fake left and get back to the right just amazes me. But he still has such great touch with his left hand around the basket because the moment he shows you this left

and you go for it, he's up and under you. He's up and under you right there. So I'm going to get the ball out of his hands. I'm going to rotate. I'm going to say KCP and Aaron Gordon in the fourth quarter is going to have because you know what they want to get to. They're going to rotate. I'm going to say KCP and Aaron Gordon in the fourth quarter is going to have because you know what they want to get to. They're going to get put in pick and roll

and they're going to dribble drive, dribble handoff or they're going to swing it to Michael Porter Jr. That's it. If you look at who touched the ball in the fourth quarter is Jokic and is Murray and they're going to swing it if one of those guys don't have something. The play of the game was

the Lakers go up three and Jokic almost turns it over. Aaron Gordon goes over at Austin Reeves, stays in bounds, saves it. Michael Porter Jr. hits a three. Three. It goes

from a situation where you almost have a turnover. The Lakers got the ball up three they're gonna burn what run it down at least 24 seconds i mean at least 20 seconds before they get a shot that was the that was the play of the game that was the play of the game. But Yoke, man, I mean, you don't really stop. He had 27-20-10. See, I'm not... Anthony, see, for the most part, Anthony Davis

has held his own against Jokic. It's the assists that is killing him because, remember, every assist is damn near 2.2, you know know and they're shooting three yes the assist alone he is producing about 20 at the lowest end 20 to 30 points yes that's what's killing you yeah yeah you know it's one of those things where we, I played against LeBron and same,

we treated LeBron the same way. All right, let's just let the man go for 50, right? Everybody stay home. He goes for 50. We lose. All right.

All right. All right. We're going to double them, make them pass it to players. He gets his tennis this and 30, right? So it's one of those things where he got his 50, just did a different way.

He's going to get it. He's going to get it no matter what. Now, when you're saying, all right, we've done tried every scheme against this guy. He's untouchable. Let's focus on Murray now. Can we shut Murray down? Because we know Jokic needs Murray the last five minutes of the game. Because if Murray is off the pick and roll is a problem.

Yeah. So I will try to focus on Murray as much as possible. Now the other players they're not dummies. They're not sitting in the corners just standing there looking like atmosphere. Right? Right?

Right? We can say passer to Gordon, but when he passes to Gordon, Gordon's going for the lob. Right? That's where that passer... It's not Gordon sitting in there shooting, checking threes up. No, no, no.

Well, as long as he... If I ever see Gordon in the dunker spot, I'm not... I can't help off because I know he's coming. I know they're going to put him in that spot and he's one.

Boom. He's there. But if he's out, I'm not helping off a Murray, and I'm not helping off Michael Porter Jr. KCP is going to have to have 30. Aaron Gordon is going to have to have 25. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, no. Soon as Brown gets in the game and KCP and even Peyton Watson. Yeah. Y'all shoot. And that goes back to what we said earlier. It becomes practice basketball. Yes. But Gil, you went on here the other night. I don't know what the Lakers can do.

Because I had told Stephen A. I said, D-Lo will hit at least five threes tonight. He hit seven. Anthony Davis goes and gives you another 32-11-5 with a couple of blocks. LeBron gives you 26-12-8. D-Lo. D-Lo had eight threes in four games last year.

He has eight threes in two games this year he goes 7-4-11 from the three point line and you still lose after having a 20 point lead so now I know what the Lakers are saying hey they did what they were supposed to do they're a good team they're the defending champ but that messes

with you Ocho you know when you play like I was explaining to you, Ocho, you go off. Carson go off. The running back go off. You had a 14-point lead, and you end up losing. You're like, damn, what we need to do?

So if they had a game like that where they played so well offensively and they were so efficient from the field, well, what's the answer? Obviously, how the hell you stop the goddamn Jokic and Murray pick and roll? Turnovers. Turnovers, you look at, they had more turnovers than they had assists.

Turnover, that's the difference. Because now, you don't even get a, you don't even give yourself a chance to get fouled. You don't give yourself the chance to get the ball up and maybe hit a three, hit a two. You turn the ball over. If you look at it, they shot better from the floor, but the Nuggets had 10 more shot attempts.

10 more. Because the Lakers turned the ball over more. And I think Nuggets went eight for nine in their last nine shots, right? And you said it. You said, Jokic and Murray, we know what they're going to do the last five minutes.

There's been a problem with the Lakers. We don't know who's touching that ball in the last five minutes. You know, Rui might take three shots in that last five minutes. He shouldn't take. He took three, two minutes. Reeves might come down and do five minutes. He shouldn't take. He took three too many. Reeves might come down and do some chips. We don't know

what's going to happen in the last... LeBron and AD. LeBron and AD. Did we see what they were doing early? Put him in the freaking row. AD dived to the basket. He was hitting that little floater. LeBron driving all the way. But then in the third quarter, you see they switched it up.

Jokic didn't have any answer for AD. He was 14 or 15. They switched Gordon on him. So now LeBron has KCP. I'm saying, AD, we're going to continue to do what we do or instead of LeBron trying to get for the call for the ball at the top of the key, get down the block. See, and that's called

genius basketball. We can't stop AD, no matter if Gordon is on him. You go get LeBron, LeBron's going to be triggered like, oh, I got a mouse in the house. Soon as LeBron says

this, thank God. They fell for the okie doke. The okie doke is, he's killing us, now we want you to shoot the ball, so we're going to give you the advantage because you ain't on fire. And that's what ended up happening.

Yep, they definitely bid it because they didn't go back, they didn't give the ball to AD. AD missed a couple, kind of got, my thing is, look, I understand you thought you got five. But while you back there arguing with the official, they pushing it up the court.

Now they got a five on four. So is this series over or the Lakers still got a chance? Okay, not a chance to win the series, but do they even have a chance to extend it to make sure the NBA get their money? This series ain't even starting. Hey, the way they got whooped, they still in 2023, yo. Lakers is still in 2023.

They don't know it's 2024. Right. The NBA is looking into an altercation between Nicola Jokic's brothers. The video showed this oldest brother, I ain't gonna even say his name, attempt to climbing over a rail to confront a fan. The brother then punched the fan in the face

at the other brother and not gonna say his name either. Followed behind him. The TikTok user captured the video Jokic brothers going wild. The video also caught the attention of the Denver yokich brothers going wild the video also caught the attention of the police which is investigating the incident although a victim has not yet come forward i mean from what i heard obviously what was written from the tiktok and some of the fans

that were in the area is if maybe it was yokich's wife maybe a girlfriend girlfriend and child the fan must have been heckling a family member of theirs and continue to heckle them until she had to be escorted off with the child and the person kept on egging on. Obviously, the brother being a former MMA guy, if I'm not mistaken, he's undefeated.

He hauled off any game he was looking for. That's what happened. You have a little alcohol in your system. You get beside little bit... You get beside yourself. Hey, Gil. Uh-huh.

Hey, Ocho. When me and my lawyer show up, he ain't gonna hit nobody else. Who you gonna sue? I don't know what kind of lawyer you got, but I can tell you... He gonna hit somebody else on because you ain't getting shit from him.

I will get stuff from him. I will get stuff from him. Or he gonna get some time. That ain't, that's okay. That's okay. He got somebody. Yeah, don't worry about it. Well, he'll pay to get him out of jail.

Hey, hey, hey. You're gonna lose. You're gonna spend money thinking, thinking Jokic is gonna pay. No, no, no. Do your time. I'll bail you out. Hey.

No, because Jokic gonna want, Jok'll bill you. Nah, because Yogi's going to want to be able to protect the wife. He's going to want to be able to protect the wife. All we're going to do is this. You're going to be sitting there spending your money. Whatever time they get back to Serbia, good luck. Have fun.

Oh, no. We know he ain't going back for anytime soon, so we're going to hold him. We're going to hold him over here. Or we'll make it so he can't come back. We don't need him. We need him without a plan. Hey, but you know how to... There's a reason why they travel.

Every game he go, the Yonkers play that, their brother's in the same deal. Listen, I don't blame him. It was one of those things. They was just mimicking what was going on on the court. He played that? Their brother's in the same deal. Listen, I don't blame him. Like, it was one of those things. They was just mimicking what was going on on the court. Whooping AD ass. I'm up here whooping the fan.

Yeah, I would whip somebody. I would whip somebody. But help me out. What was Rui doing? What was Rui doing the other night, Gil? Besides trying to play basketball? Trying to find his rhythm. Trying to find his besides trying to play basketball trying to find his rhythm trying to find his rhythm you gotta find your rhythm

it's only one way to find your rhythm in any sport that you play when it comes to basketball you gotta keep on shooting not in this not against them do that in practice tomorrow when we get back home to L.A. We don't have time for you to be trying to find your rhythm

against the Denver Nuggets. We don't have that kind of leverage over here. We need you to have that rhythm. We need you to have the rhythm and sit down, and we can work on that in off days. Ocho, he missing layups, though. That's the thing. I can see. Yeah, that would have been nice of me to hit that corner three. That's fine. But Ocho, he missing layups, though. That's the thing. I can see. Yeah, that would have been nice

of me to hit that corner three. That's fine. But Ocho, them layups, he missed the dunk, and then he hanging on the rim, and the rim bouncing. AD tried to lay it back in, and the rim in the basket spit it out. I'm like, bro! Hey, when you having a bad day, you having a bad day. That's all.

It does. It does. It does. It go back. It go back. God. back. It go back. Oh, Joe, you know, you had one of them days, like, you ain't seeing the ball well. You're like, oh, I'm finna grab this one. Then the ball hit you, go right through your head, hit you in the head, and pop up in the air, and somebody pick it. I hate that. I hate that.

I hate that. I like, damn. Can it get any worse? Can it get any worse? It's always the easiest pass to catch. Easiest pass to catch, and it get right through? Can it get any worse? That's all you... It's always the easiest pass to catch. Easiest pass to catch, and it goes right through your hand. Yes. Video of the going viral of Joel Embiid's eye.

What do y'all think is going on here? A sports medicine doctor tweeted, the image makes some type of nerve injury damage for Embiid, very likely. See how he left his forehead doesn't wrinkle, but the right one does. That means the left side isn't getting nerve intervention in it in it and that's what you're saying what's that inner innervation is that ash i don't know what he spelled but he must be a doctor yeah he got md by his name like right, right? Think Bell's Palsy phenomenon? I have a teammate that had Bell's Palsy. Seems isolated

to the upper branch of the cranial nerve, not the whole thing. Otherwise his mouth would be dropped. You ever seen anybody with Bell's Palsy? I mean, it's like a person has a stroke, and it's like the mouth is crooked. But he's saying

it with his eyes because his eyes are doing something funky, but his forehead is moving. You see? You ever heard of duct tape? Hold that eye open. Better duct tape it back here. Nobody got time to be worried about

what's going on with your eye, man. You better duct tape that eye back to that forehead and get out there. What's wrong with him? Hey, but you think about it. We're athletes and we thinking like, okay, we had to do everything. That's how

fans think. Fans don't care about that man that ain't got no eye. You ain't got, hey, don't worry about it. You don't need but one eye to see the basketball anyway. They don't care. They don't care nothing be one out to shoot the basketball anyway. You know what I'm saying? Hey, they don't care. They don't care nothing about that because all they see is that dead jersey number and a bead on the back. That's all they see.

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Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Reggie Bush will be getting back his 2005 Heisman Trophy after forfeiting it in 2010 as part of the NCAA sanction placed on USC. On Wednesday, the Heisman Trophy Trust decided that Bush would get his trophy back after it monitored the enormous, enormous or erroneous, enormous change in college football landscape. Oh, so in other words, they started getting out of NIL. Reggie just was ahead of his time.

Okay. Bush had forfeited the trophy in connection with the NCAA sanctions against USC for several violations, including Bush receiving improper benefits when he attended school. Bush will be getting the actual trophy while USC will receive a replica. And starting with 2024 season, he will be invited to all future Heisman Trophy ceremonies. Yeah, he should have never gave it away.

I mean, he didn't have a choice but to give it back. I did not. You come get it. But it's a good thing. It's a good thing they gave it back. Obviously, Reggie Bush, to me, is one of the top two collegiate football players I've ever seen play. The most electric.

One of the most electric. And outside of him was Peter Warrick, who also should have won the Heisman his year. But Reggie Bush, man, what he did for USC was un... The best non-quarterback that I ever saw was Barry Sanders. Yeah, okay. Barry had...

He had 2,600 rush yards in 12 games. He had 225 touchdowns, and that didn't count towards his total. He had 2,800 yards rushing in 1,300 games. He had 220 and five touchdowns, and that didn't count towards his total. He had 2,800 yards rushing in 1,300 games. I don't know.

Those numbers are staggering, but it's something about... Just stay with me real quick on these three names when it comes to college football that have played. Obviously, Reggie Bush. And for me, I'm all about receivers. But with Tavon Austin, Randy Moss,

and Peter Wark is my number one. To me, I think Peter Wark is the greatest collegiate receiver to ever play the game. Despite some of the great names that have played in college, what Peter Wark did for FSU that senior year, I've never seen anything like that, ever. Whether it was punt return, whether it was catching,

it's like those moments, you remember when Michael Vick dropped back and you would hold your breath because you don't know what the hell's going to happen? You don't know what's going to happen. That's how I felt when I watched P-Dub play, man. Same thing with Reggie Bush. When Reggie got the ball, ain't no telling what,

he gonna reverse field, he gonna make two, three, four, five people miss. And that's what Dub was able to do. But I'm happy for Reggie, man. I'm happy. Oh, Joe. Do you remember Barry in the NFL? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So if he was doing NFL, that's the best of the best Right So what would you think He was like in college Probably 10 times

10 times worse 10 times I mean not worse In a bad way I'm saying You know Just better Because the level of talent

In college Was nothing like the NFL So if you made the NFL Players look the way You did in the NFL I can just imagine In college It was

It was nasty work. I've seen the highlights, though. He had – hold on. Can you pull up Barry's numbers in college? I'm sorry. I thought you said Dion. Was it Dion Ward, the lady? Oh, what about Dion Ward?

That's who you're talking about, Joe. I'm like, damn, ain't they allowed females to play college football? Nah, man. You don't know who Peter Ward is? Nah. Come on, Gil. No. Man, do me a favor, man.

When you get some time in your free time tomorrow, your downtime tomorrow, you two, Peter Ward highlights when he was at Florida State. Okay. And you'll understand. Just watch his highlights. Ocho. Yes, sir. Ocho. I got it. Here's Barry Sanders' game by

game. He went 178, 157, 304, 174, 189, 154 154 320 215 312 293 332 for a grand whopping total of 2628 yards 39 touchdowns he averaged 239 yards rushing per game in the one game his last game of his career, he rushed for 222 yards on 29 carries for five touchdowns. That season, he finished with 2,850 yards, 44 touchdowns, and 106 yards receiving, and 515 yards rushing. What are they trying to tackle him?

What are we doing? You thought they tried to tackle me. The numbers you just said, you can't even replicate on a video game. You can't even do that on a video game. That's what I'm saying. His numbers don't seem real.

Now, think about this. He backed up Thurman Thomas. He backed up Thurman? He was the backup to Thurman. Yes. Okay, now that's news to me. I didn't know that. Yes. He backed up Thurman.

I didn't know that. Barry Switzer told his team, he said, don't hurt the starter because the backup will come in the game, which was Barry. Right, right, right. Barry was mainly a return guy. Can you imagine trying to tackle him?

They had Barry as a return guy and he was that special? Yes. You got to realize Thurman was a starter. Hey, you know what? There was no type of controversy being that, I mean, Thurman Thomas was great as well. So I don't want to take anything away from Thurman.

But you would assume someone with Barry's talent and skill level would come in and take Thurman's spot. Or seniority rule. Yeah, Thurman was like that. Thurman in the hall too. Yes. Yes. Yes. When, um, at USC with, yeah.

Who was the running back with, um, Reggie Bush. Lindale White. Went to Tennessee. Wasn't he good? Yeah. Big back.

But it wasn't, it wasn't like, it wasn't like Thurman. It wasn't like Thurman and Barry. It wasn't even like Craig James and E.D. I know you don't remember the Pony Express, SMU. The best team money could buy. E.D. was E.D. and Roger and Craig James.

Craig James was a, whew, that white dude could run it. He could run it. Yes. Yes. Yes. A white it yes yes they called him they called himself the pony express up and down the field you know ED because ED was the 100 and 200 meter

champ in the state of Texas you know they run in the state of Texas if you went 100 meters 200 meters in Florida in Georgia in in Texas, in California, oh, you can scoop. Oh, you can scoop. Oh, you can scoop, scoop.

Yeah, ain't no bull jive. No, but Barry had the greatest season. And like I said, I'm only a year younger than Barry. So I saw it. Ocho, in a lot of the games, he didn't finish the game. He was on the sidelines. He could have, yes. Yes.

We have probably never seen nothing like that again, huh? At the running back position? No. The man had 18 carries for 178. He had 33 carries for 304. 24 for 174. 35. I mean, he had 344 carries. Now, go look at all the guys

that rushed for like 2,000 yards. Look how many carries they got. He's averaging 7, 8 yards a carry. Yeah. I think... Oh, you got to watch his highlights. You got to watch his highlights. You gotta watch his highlights. You'll never see anything like it.

We'll never see... Look, Shady McCoy had mood. There are a lot of running backs that have mood, but you're never gonna see anything. The guy playing with both feet. You know you're not supposed to jump and stop with both feet. He come to balance like no other, boy.

He come to balance like no other and boy. He come to balance like no other and get up out of there quick. They talking about throw. Uh-uh. You ain't finna have me on this highlight reel talking about throw. Hey, so y'all hear me more. And then I come close the door. Peter Ward and Barry Sanders.

That's who I'm Googling. Wait, wait, wait. Add Tavon Austin to that. Tavon? Yeah. Add Tavon Alston to that. Tavon? Yeah, add Tavon Alston, college highlight tape, and boy, let me tell you, get you some popcorn and watch them three and watch what happens. All right.

I'm on it. Ocho, he had 100. He played 11 games, Furman senior year. He had 105 rushes for 603 yards nine touchdowns he had four receptions for 58 yards but he had 109 plays from scrimmage for 10 with 10 touchdowns and then he came back his senior year 344 attempts 28 2628 yards 7.6 yards of rush 37 touchdowns he caught nine paths for 106 yards and then he had uh what he had him receiving so that's great that's crazy i mean return no he was that's that's crazy he was you had to see i mean all y'all think we're running what i don't think

anybody thinks now i mean we got some great christ Christian McCaffrey, you know, the Taylor young man from Indy, and King Henry. He was different, though. He was different. Different. Different. Different. We never going to see anything like that.

Hell, one of the greatest in goddamn Adrian Peterson, one of the greatest collegiate running backs ever, and Reggie Bush as well, but Barry Sanders still sits alone. He was just different. I don't know if they, I don't, maybe, were they that bad at tackling back then

or were the teams they were playing with, were they that bad? Well, first of all, you know they tackled way better back then than they do now. So what you think they're going to do with all this space on the field?

What you think they're going to do with Barry now? Wait, hold on. Barry might have, he might have two or three seasons think they're going to do with all this space on the field? What do you think they're going to do with Barry now? Barry might have, he might have two or three seasons with 2,000 yards rushing. He's 55. He's 55. That means he was in college around what? 86?

Yeah, he came out in 90. He came out in 89. Berman came out in 88. They was on that good stuff back in the 80s, boy. They was high as a kite over there. But, you know, back then, you know, the running back, you know, USC, you know, Marcus, Marcus, Marcus Marcus block for Charles White. Charles White won the Heisman in 79.

Marcus won it in 81. I mean, think about it. And Ronnie, you talk about USC had a squad back then. They had Ronnie Lott. They had Marcus Allen. They had who else was on that team?

Joey Brown or, Dennis Smith that 81 you go look at that 81 squad they were loaded loaded the Browner brothers they won the national championship that year? they sure did

they sure did they were loaded they were loaded loaded Charlie Villanueva reveals his university of illinois recruited him with five girls and a private jet charlie said one of the top ranked prospects in the nation in 2003 and a number of colleges was interested in having him on board on our run your race podcast bill and the waiver will reveal how the University of Illinois recruited him. My first village to align. I loved it. Loved it. Off the bat.

First of all, I'm 17 years old. They're picking me up in a private jet. I ain't never been on a private jet in my life. So I get to Canva. They got five girls with Charlie's Angels t-shirts on them following me around wherever I go. I like it. I like it. I like it. Only five?

You know me. Five ain't enough? I'm going to shut down Kona. I'm a one-on-one type of guy myself. One-on-one, bro. One-on-one. Wait, hold on. Come on. Ojo, what did they do to you?

Nah, he didn't do nothing to me, but I'm saying if you go, if you go, if you, I mean. First of all, Ocho wasn't that heavy to recruit him. They promised Ocho a six-pack and an orange soda.

Me? Nah, nah, nah. A six wings and an orange soda got him to Oregon State. I'm putting myself in his shoes because when it was time for me to get recruited, I ain't had the grades no way.

I'm just saying if you're going to do it, do it right. If I have five, that's an odd number. Why five? Why not eight? Why not four? It just makes no sense because there's somebody that's going to be odd. Somebody's going to be out.

There's an odd person out. I ain't the only one on that recruiting trip. I'm sure they had other players coming in there. That's for them. Why are we snitching on ourselves anyway? I ain't the only one on that recruiting trip. I'm sure they had other players coming in there. That's for them. I ain't even one. Why are we snitching on ourselves anyway? I said I don't want to want it. Ocho, I already told you.

I'm like, man, I want to win. I'm curious. Why is he? I'm a singles player. Why is he telling? Why are you willingly letting people know about that anyway? There's some things you're supposed to be able to take to your grave. That wasn't... He ain't doing nothing with them.

They just had Charlie's Angels shirt on. Ain't nothing... He ain't got to bring that up because now they're going to go investigate from way back 40 years ago. Man, they ain't investigating nothing. They don't investigate nothing. And that was better than my recruiting trip.

What you did? What you have? I had a hotel room. I was left in it. I had Luke Walton and Richard Jefferson. Right? I had Luke Walton and Richard Jefferson as the people that were supposed to take me out.

They just sent me in the hotel so I didn't go nowhere. So the only person that I, the only female I didn't go nowhere so the only person that I the only female I seen was room service lady and I had to pay for that they didn't take you out

nowhere? no no they didn't want me there they said nah we don't want you here so yeah we gonna make sure

this is a bad experience for you damn which made me wanna come so I can be like you know what when I come here I ain't passing you the ball

and I did hey girls which made me want to come. So I can be like, you know what? When I come here, I ain't passing you the ball. And I did. Girls? Oh, man. All right, guys. It's time for Q and A. Lord, they said, Amanda was on your ass in that interview.

Did y'all see the interview with Amanda Seals? I missed it. I missed it. I keep seeing all the tweets and all the tweets are the same. I can't believe I agree with Amanda Seals.

So does everyone not like Amanda Seals or something? I don't know the backstory, but for some reason, whatever she said, it must have been good because everybody agrees with her. Whatever the topic was.

Yeah, she was. Hollywood, especially black Hollywood, is kind of shunned. And, you know, everybody is kind of shaped. Through their childhood and their personal experience. So you see things, you see your life through your prism, your prism and so she's had some things happen in her life that kind of makes her ultra defensive

she's a highly intelligent woman very intelligent very well read but I think sometimes she thinks everybody's out together and so until she's comfortable with you

she's going to keep that guard up she's going to keep the guard up because I asked her for a hug earlier, she's like, nah I don't hug, I asked her I said, give me some doubt, she ain't want to give me no doubt but once I told her I said, Amanda, this is a safe space.

You can tell your story. She saw it back. She paused. She's like, can I have a hug? And then she was cool. I think a lot of things that, and people like, I was trying to invalidate her experience. No, I was trying to invalidate her experience. No, I wasn't.

It's the same thing I told Monique when Monique said, I try, you know, I was trying to get this role and Oprah told me to go blah, blah, blah for, and she ended up getting the role. I said, well, Monique, did you ever think that they were looking for a black heavyset woman?

And there were two, probably the only two in Hollywood. And she said, oh, okay, that makes sense. And so when she said the white lady had her teacher, I said, Amanda, did it ever cross your mind that, I don't know where you're from, but where I grew up, Ocho, kids never corrected a parent or an adult. Yes. And that's what I said. I said,

Amanda, did you think maybe because you were a child, even though you were right, the mere fact that a child corrected an adult. Now, maybe in today's time, that's fine. Maybe we're in some place we grew up, but I don't ever remember

being in a situation a child couldn't even interrupt an adult conversation you couldn't pull on your parents or your grandparents leg and say hey hey hey hey hey i'm like huh no so that's what i was saying i said maybe maybe amanda it wasn't racism maybe it was the fact that a child was corrected than an adult. But that was her experience. That's what, that's what, and like I said, I mean, that's how she felt about it. But I enjoyed the interview.

I enjoy talking to people. Yeah, I mean, everybody. And I try not I do my research, but I try to go in with as clean a slate as I possibly can, because I don't want what someone else has said about her to influence what I think of her. Yeah, I'm going to come up. I'm going to ask the questions. And then at the end of the day, hopefully she when she sees it, she'll be pleased with the finished product.

But I ain't got no problem with Amanda Seales. She was great. She's very funny. She has... And I do believe some of the people have done it wrong. And I think a lot of... Because that's what you deal with. We all go through it.

Dealing with men or women, you're not dating them, you're dating their childhood, their past traumas. That's what you got to get past. So, I'm excited. I was excited to have her. She was great. She taught me a lot of things.

But she, oh, she's highly, highly, highly, highly educated. She's real versed. She can sing. She's a comedian she's a writer is she married no she's not married I mean yes I'm

listening to you list all the qualities that she has and I'm just curious if she was married because that I mean that sounds like that that's a great kiss for someone yeah yeah yeah no that sounds like that's a great kiss for someone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that sounds like some flaws for someone. That sounds like a flaw for me. Because as educated as she is,

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I'm Leon Nafak, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. She wants someone that's versed. She wants someone that's inquisitive. She wants someone that wants to travel.

I mean, look, to each his own. Ocho, I'm not everybody's cup of tea. I understand that. Gil's not everybody's cup of tea. Even with the kind of money, even with the kind of finances, you found your mate, Ray. Even with Gil's and our finance, we understand that some people are like,

I don't care how much. He can have a billion dollars. I ain't rocking with him. And that's much. He can have a billion dollars. I ain't rocking with him. And that's okay. I can have a different perspective than Amanda. That's okay. I don't think any less of her. I don't think any more of myself.

But people are like, well, just because I didn't agree with everything she said, oh, you're trying to invalidate her. No, probably ain't nobody trying to invalidate her experience. You know, I think about it. Gil, are you single too? No, probably ain't nobody trying to validate her experience. You know, I think about it. Gil, you single too? No, no, no. Oh, you... No, I got a lot of ladies.

A lot? Yeah. Like I heard you say, you got on a refrigerator, you got sex dates. Oh, yeah, yeah. With the missus, yeah. We have a schedule. I mean, she can't just jump. She can't mount me when she want to. We got to stay.

We got to stick to that schedule because I'm not available every day. I got a schedule too. Just who's coming over which day, which week. That's live. That's live. I like that.

I like that. I like that. Well, I'm still working on Uncle. I'm trying to get Uncle. I'm trying to get Uncle Woman. He done turned down everybody out in the office. Hey, hey, hey. My schedule is anything to end Uncle Wilmer. He done turned down everybody out in the office. Hey, my schedule is

anything to end with a Y. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, that's the schedule. Oh, you woke up in the morning? Because that's what you do. You ask them early. I'm a morning person. Okay? Oh, you remember what you do you ask them early i'm a morning person okay now oh you remember what you

say so two or three o'clock in the morning when we try to hey we try to get it in you said you was a morning person that's all see they don't even take much of the toll that that's all i'm asking it for it's not like i'm gonna ask you to go walk the dog. I'm just trying to see. They got to put up. So, you know, when I'm over there, don't be doing this. Don't do it. Oh, I ain't no mosquito. I ain't no mosquito. Oh, no.

He need to be on that. Seeking sister wives. Multiple. He won't want to go through all that gruesome pain. Now, nobody can do that five days a week, three times a week. No, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I just, no, no, that ain't what I'm, it's not every day, but I'm

just saying, cause just like when you ask me for something, I might not get it for you every time, but more times than not you ask, you shall receive. Yeah. So when I come, when more times than not, you ask, you shall receive. Yeah. So, when I come, when I say, hey,

yeah, that's all I'm saying. Nobody your age got time for all that, all right? He said, he don't date in his age bracket, man. I mean, I told him he needs to date women

like in their 50s three or four of them and we're going to just rotate them it's going to cost you just about $250 $250 I think an hour or a night I'm probably throwing something

$250 $250 for the night $250 for the night? Yeah, $250 for the night. That ain't bad. What? That's a good deal. I need to get... I need to have something here.

I got too much over here. I got a sister. I got a brother. I got a mom. I got three kids, a grandkid. Plus, I got a staff. Oh.

Nah, man. I ain't got that kind of money. Yeah. You're down to 35, but I don't know if you want them. I don't know if you want them. No, they cost 35. I don't know if you... Oh, I thought you said it's 35. I said, okay,

now you in my sweet spot. Now you in my sweet spot. No, no. They might come in there coughing. Nah, you don't. No, no. No. They might come in there coughing. You don't want those. Oh, no. You don't think what that is?

Hey, hey. Hey, you get me? That's what I'm saying. Y'all shut up, man. Y'all shut up. Hey, man. I'm telling you. You talking about

it's just allergies? I'm like, hold on. What you mean allergies? Man, there ain't just allergies. I'm like, hold on. What you mean allergies? Man, ain't no allergies in January. I'm going to make sure y'all, you got to understand right now, y'all walking to y'all purpose, right? You're comfortable being alone right now.

You got everything in the world going on. Like Gil, you're comfortable being alone, even though you got everything in the world going on. Like, Gil, you're comfortable being alone even though you got to, you know, you got to rotation whatever you got going on. So right now,

y'all walking to y'all purpose, authentically yourselves, y'all are 80%. Y'all are 80%. You can't get no higher than 80%, right? God said, a man that findeth a wife, findeth a good

thing. Your other 20% to complete you as a man is your wife. And you ain't gonna never have grace and favor until you get a wife. So I'm finna find somebody for y'all. That's my message for the day. That's it. Ocho, that was very touching.

Thank you. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I got y'all though. I got you. I appreciate it. I got y'all, though. I got you. I got you. As long as you cost about $250, Ocho, I'm in. But in my situation, Ocho, is that everything that you do, Ocho, is that you do, Ocho,

is that you do to have options. You want to be able to situation, if I want to go, I don't want to be relegated to have a vacation where I got to stay in the States. I want to have options. If I want to go to Italy, if I want to go to Africa, if I want to go to Europe, I want to be able to do that. Gil,

same thing. Who says you can't? You can do that. I put myself... I... So don't try to just say, hey, Shannon, you got to have a 50-year-old. I want options. Okay. I see what you're saying. You could get a car

with no options, but I want all the bells and whistles. I want a little refrigerator in the back. You know what I'm saying? Yep, I sure do. I sure do. I want that. I don't need it.

But I want it. I want all the options on my car. When was the last time you bought a car that didn't have all the options? I bet you got all the options on a real car. I mean, I don't know what she got on there. She paid for that. But yeah, you know. You bought it.

She paid for that. Listen, I'm not even a breadwinner, so I'm trying to understand why you think I even pay for it when she's the one making the money. I'm just here doing nightcap. That's it. Don't worry about it. I know what I pay you. And I need to be able to hold you. And I know as we

start to get go further and further, you're going to be like, what's up? I'm like, huh? I was like, hey, you got to get you a guy to find you. You got to bring up some more people, Ocho. You got to find somebody else to get a podcast so we can get some money. Hey, Gil, what you saying, Gil?

I ain't hear you. You a house husband? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's the only reason I settled down. I wasn't playing. Hey, Gil, but it's different when you find when they got some money. It's different.

Like, I don't even know how to ask. Like, what you mean you don't need nothing this month? Are you good? Look, you give it. I'm getting allowance, Gil. I ain't never been in no situation where I get allowance. What? I've been trying to get some of them,

you know, they get divorced and they take half the money. Right. I've been trying. Yeah, you try to find you want to be a father. What? Yeah, you know what would be perfect for you, Gil? Miss McKenzie.

Jeff Bezos ex. Huh? Jeff Bezos ex-wife. Miss McKenzie. She don't have no ass. She don't have no ass, though. But she got money. That's all the money. I got a little Sanders. I got a little Sanders. Right?

Ass little. I got it. Okay, I'm good. You know what? But that ain't really how we... That's not how we're wired. They're normally wired like that. I mean, you're wired like that now.

I think that trauma that you go through because you said that $40,000 a month, you see things different now. I'm past that storm. Ocho, he's about to come out of that storm. You still smack dab in it. You smack dab in that storm. So it definitely changes your way of thinking.

I think she would be perfect for you though, Gil. She'd be perfect. I mean, you're different than what she's used to dealing with. I think you could bring a little bit of excitement to her life as opposed to what she's used to dealing with. I think that would be good. I'm not sure how to hook y'all up. I mean, I don't even know how you even

get in contact with someone of that type of status, but I mean, I'm sure she might see this, so good luck. All right. I'll probably DM her. She probably don't check her DMs. Okay. Lanny Ray says if you three were if three of you competed in the bar Olympics

pool darts beer pong I don't drink I know I'm gonna win darts and pool I'm not losing no no no pool don't do that I'm the only man to be Efron Reyes, the magician. So you don't even know who Efron Reyes is. So you're going to talk about Minnesota Fast?

I know about Minnesota Fast. You're going to talk about... No, I'm talking about Efron Reyes, the magician. I beat him. Sure, where the foot is at? Where the foot is at? Where the foot is at? Yeah.

You got your own pool stick? They call you boy Georgia Slim. He lying. He just mean. He lying. Where your pool stick at? Show me your pool. If you ain't got your own pool stick, I know you can't play no pool.

I'll beat you with a moon stick. That's what I'll beat you with a moon stick. That's what I'll beat you with while you're rubbing your gums. For one, I had a dart board growing up in the house. I had a pool table growing up in the house, and I had a ping pong table. Them three games ain't none of you, nobody in the

chat, nobody beat me. Period. I'll beat you in dart. Now, beer pong? I don't drink, so I'm out. Well. I beat you in darts. Now, beer pong... I don't drink, so I'm out. Well, Gil, you have to put Gil looking to win beer pong, but pool and darts, I already know I win. That's a little basketball to me right there.

Boom. Boom. Darts? Nah, I'm sorry. I'm not that good at aiming like that. It's always dark in my room. I hit number bulls. I'm not that good at aiming like that. I am. Because it's always dark in my room. I hit number bulls. I mean. Hey,

I'm the best two ball champ in the nation. Think about that. You seek in for a second you heard what i said you know you can play eight ball nine ball five ball but don't worry about it i mean you i mean you'll be driving your car tomorrow you're like damn i know i'm with you when you're right i'm with you when you're right hey can there be a special edition of Spell Ocho where Ocho tries to spell the names of some of these European basketball players? I don't want no smoke. We already did that.

We already did that. I couldn't spell nobody except Pascal Siakam. Yeah. Faith said, hello, gentlemen. I have a bet for Ocho. Ocho, buy a plain hamburger and a small fry from McDonald's. Don't eat it. Leave it on your counter for 30 days if it decomposes i'll cash out you 200 if it does not you have to quit

mcdonald's for 30 days i'm not doing that and if i buy mcdonald's i'm gonna eat it right there on the spot whether it decomposes or not the body the stomach has acids that can break down a rubber tire if necessary. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. I ain't trying to see. I ain't trying to eat no tires. I'm just trying to

give her a better understanding on what the stomach has and possesses inside that can break down any and everything. No matter what research or no matter what they put out there, no matter what you watch on YouTube, child, it don't mean you know nothing. Because if it can pass the FDA,

you can eat it. Yeah, a lot of things you eat. I ain't trying to, that ain't pass the FDA. I know something you eat all the time but it ain't pass the FDA. Oh, yeah. You eat all the time. It ain't past the FDA. Oh, yeah. I went to go get my teeth cleaned. I went to go get my teeth...

This is why women just... They just ain't right. I went to clean today. Got a deep cleanse, right? I told the girl, hey, man, just got out, got my teeth cleaned. And then, you know what she tried to ask me? So what you going to do tonight?

What? Huh? Didn't I just tell you I spent about two grand cleaning my teeth? Damn, $2,000? You have to have a clean mouth. Boy, I got money. With you, Gil, you mean to tell me I can't have a clean mouth for 24 hours? God damn it.

10 days when this plaque builds back up. I need something to fight all that ginger bite that you got down going on down there. I just got them clean. 2,000. What? Hey. Ocho. Ocho, you remember we used to get our car clean?

And you got to, hey, you can't drive it that day. You got to let it sit for a minute. You got to keep it clean for at least two, three days. And you're going to stare at it. You're going to stare at it for a minute, too. Yes. Because I put the armor on the tires. Then we have to say,

shot it, put the armor on the tires. And I say, glitz. I'm like, hold on. I got to, just let me, just let me, just let it keep the seat clean for like one day, two days. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I'm cheesing like y'all.

Just, y'all. Y'all showing them all. Trying to mess up the whole thing. I don't know about y'all, but you know what? This was really fun tonight. Chad, I hope y'all really like this. I hope y'all

like this. Because it was a rarity that we were able to get all three of us on. If y'all like it, y'all like this because it was a rarity that we were able we were able to get a uh get all three of us on but it's there's some if y'all like it y'all need to comment so y'all like this so we can do this again please make sure you subscribe hit that like button please make sure you hit that subscribe button and thank you thank you for uh uh for sticking with us for so long please make sure you go vote for the short award we won the iHeart we've been we've been racking up on the awards guys we've been really good which tells us We won the iHeart. We've been racking up on the awards, guys. We've been really good, which tells us that you

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and we should have cleared out a lot of the back orders. We had about, well, they said we cleared about 12 a lot of the back order. We had about, well, they said we cleared about 12,000 of the back order. Damn. You selling like that? Man, I'm

That's what they say. I need to create me a new product. You got Ziggur. They all sold out. People bought them all. So I got to wait. Well, you better go get some more.

It's coming. Listen, when they order, I start rolling. So now supply and demand, now I got to do it by bulk. So I got to do it right. Yeah, that's it. Thank you guys. Again, you can listen to the nightcap podcast feed through the uh club shea shea but we would greatly appreciate it if you

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go on the road, go into Boston and win by 10, 1-11 to 1-1. That series is now headed back to Miami, tied 1-1. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85,

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