Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: The Miz joins the show, Cowboys kicker has jury duty, Purdy doesn’t audible

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are joined by WWE Superstar The Miz to promote Wrestlemania 41 in Las Vegas. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Dallas Cowboys kicker Brandon Aubrey being selected for jury duty, San Francisco 49ers QB Brock Purdy doesn’t call audibles at the line of scrimmage and much more!03:19 - The Miz Joins34:10 - Brandon Aubrey37:55 - DHop traded40:30 - Q and Aye(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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terms, and responsible gaming resources. Oh, there he is. We got the guy in the chat. What it do, Miz? Man, we're unbelievable. No, thank you for coming on. We understand that you're very, very busy. So talk to us tonight.

You getting ready to hype up? They got a big event that's happening in 25. WrestleMania. It's going to be bigger because they seem to get bigger and bigger and better and better every single year. So talk to us about it. Yeah, WrestleMania 41 tickets are on sale tomorrow for April 19th and 20th. Legion Stadium, Las Vegas, we're taking it over. Not only does WWE go to Las Vegas for just WrestleMania, it's literally SmackDown on Friday. And then Saturday is WrestleMania. Sunday is WrestleMania. It's literally SmackDown on Friday, and then Saturday is WrestleMania,

Sunday is WrestleMania, two nights, and then Monday is Raw. Not only do we have that, we have NXT stand and deliver, WWE Hall of Fame, WWE World, which is very interactive. The Super Bowl was in Las Vegas last year. We saw that platform and what it did and what kind of party that city knows how to do. And WrestleMania said, you know what? Super Bowl bowl can do it we can do it twice so it's going to be

something special it's going to be something to remember and you're not going to want to miss it yeah most definitely miss you and i we had our little interaction you know little quarrel a few years ago but the miss character has always been large in life everything you do the way you carry yourself your aura your energy has always been large in life how much of that is real and how much of it is in is is performance uh a lot of its performance to be honest like my kids don't look at me and go you know actually you know it was weird yeah my uh my daughter unfortunately uh broke her ankle and she had me like sign her her cast and i was like what do you want me to sign it do you

want me to sign it daddy or mike right she's like the mids and i'm like my daughter like my daughter doesn't really watch right she's she's six you know what i mean so she doesn't she understands the lights i'll let her watch the entrances or if I actually win because she only likes it if I win. So it's interesting to see them start to get into it. And then my other daughter saw my action figures and she wanted them. And I was like, oh, she doesn't want Barbies. She wants daddy action figures. And I was like, this is amazing.

So my daughter was wrestling myself with two action figures. It was pretty incredible. So at home, I would say that my wife, my daughters don't really look at me as the Miz. But once I get out there, once I hear my entrance music, you guys know how it is. When you're on the football field, it's the same way. You turn it on. You're 100%. You're locked in.

You're loaded. You're focused on what the job is at hand. And my job in the middle of the ring is to entertain an audience, to make sure an audience has a moment that will stand the test of time, that they will remember for the rest of their life, that 20 years from right now, when they're watching that moment, that they go with their, maybe their mom or their dad or whoever, they're going. Remember that time we had that moment where the Miz locked eyes with me and he started yelling at me out in the crowd. And I started yelling him back. Remember that? Yeah. Like that's,

those are the little things that you can do to make sure that people have the moment that they should, I feel like they should deserve. Right. How special is it? Like when you guys were on the football field, don't you think you turned on like a character? Oh, yeah. Like almost. Oh, yeah. There's something more to it than just, you know, Chad. He was Ocho. Miz, how special is it for your daughters to be old enough to know what you do?

And they kind of appreciate it because your daughter says, I don't want you to sign it as daddy. I don't want you to sign it as Mike. I want you to sign it as the Miz. And your daughter older, the other one that liked the action figures? No, she's younger. She's a year younger. So they're five and six.

But to see and to know what daddy does, that has to have a special place in your heart because your kids are old enough to know what you do. It does. Whenever my song will come on, of your heart because your kids are old enough to know what you do it does it uh when whenever like my song will come on like say if we're in the in in the car and then my i'm on shuffle and my song comes on she goes daddy's song i'm like yeah that's my entrance music yeah it's mine it

is there's something about like your daughters i don't know not necessarily like i guess looking up to you and you know you're you're their model, right? You're the person that they look at as a man and how you treat my wife, how I treat other people, they're going to emulate that. And so it's nice to like, like today I had, um, I had media all day, but I made sure that I had time to go. We had a teacher's conference and you know, I had to make sure that I wanted to be there. Cause had a teacher's conference and, you know, I had to make sure that I wanted to be there because I want to ask questions. I want to know what my daughter's like in school. You know, she, she doesn't really like to tell me like after school, I'm like, you know, what was your favorite part of the day? What was the most fun thing you had? And they

don't want to talk about anything. So I just let it be until they're ready to tell me. So to hear a teacher say that she is so helpful, she is amazing. She she's learning well. And it's in there here received. And one time, you know, a girl was looking for a pink pen. She had no idea. Maddie didn't even talk. She just went and got the pink pen and gave it to the girl. It was the sweetest thing. I was like, that's my girl. That's my girl. I'm doing something right. Cause as a dad, you never know if you're doing it right. You always, to be honest, I always feel like I'm doing it right. Yeah. Because as a dad, you never know if you're doing it right. You always, to be honest, I always feel like I'm doing it wrong.

Right. I always sit there and go, man, am I, I like him as his kid's life. I'm like, oh, I didn't mean to, I didn't, I didn't mean to,

to use my big boy voice, but you were, you were kind of just digging and digging. I was like, no, stop it. Yeah. Please.

Oh my God. But you do know this, try not to do that. Miz, you're the first man that your daughters will will ever love there'll be some after you but you'll be the first it's it's crazy huh yeah it is it really is it's something like when when when i first when they first were born it's like a new piece of your heart opens up like everyone always says like you know you don't know what it's like until you have kids you don't know what it's like a new piece of your heart opens up. Like everyone always says, like, you know, you don't know what it's like until you have kids. You don't know what it's like

until you have kids. And it's so true because you can sit there and say, no, I get it. I get it. It's like, no, you don't. Like if you're not watching them constantly, they will do something that will hurt, harm them. And you have to keep an eye on them at all times. And then everything you do, they will emulate. So if you're rude to someone or if you're mean to someone, they're going to pick that up. So you kind of watch and check yourself at all times. Now, I don't think they should watch my character in WWE because the Miz is very egotistical, arrogant, and a little cocky, if you will. Yeah. Matter of fact, speaking of your character, listen, you've played both the face and you've played the

heel throughout your career. Now, I'm curious to know, being that you've done both, which role do you prefer? Are you kidding me? What would you guys rather be? A good guy smiling and shaking hands and kissing babies, signing autographs, or the big, bad heel?

The bad guy that walks in, that's the villain. I was always the villain guy that walks in that's the villain i was the i was always the villain and i enjoyed i embraced that role of being the villain you know not being like always being the bad boy being the bad guy i enjoyed it but for the most of the part when it comes to wrestling what do you think is better i didn't look at you as the villain by the way i looked at you as the star when i saw you on hard knocks and saying, child, please, I was like, star, that guy bonafide star. When you're cutting and dicing people up and making touchdown catches, star. I don't see a bad guy. I don't see a villain. And I don't see a villain

in myself. The audience sees a villain and they can see all the villain that they want. But I always look at myself as the hero, as the person that is to triumph. I'm the ultimate underdog. I'm, I'm six foot nothing. I'm 200, nothing pound from Parma, Ohio. I should not be a WWE superstar and one of the most decorated WWE superstars. But here I sit the first ever two-time Grand Slam champion in WWE history. Not Hogan, not Austin, not Rock, The Miz. Talk it. Talk it. Yeah, I guess I like being the bad guy, even though I don't consider myself the bad guy. So when will they release the lineup, or when will you know who's going to be on the card at WrestleMania?

We always start releasing lineups more towards the Royal Rumble. And that's usually around January, February. Usually our tickets go on sale. Everyone knows that every WrestleMania is bigger than the next. Last year was the biggest WrestleMania ever. I believe there was 145,000 in attendance both nights and the most watched WrestleMania ever. I think, in my opinion, it was the best main event WrestleMania ever.

Seeing Cody Rhodes win the WWE Championship, finishing his story, the story that the late, great Dusty Rhodes was never, ever to get, the title he was never, ever to get the title. He's never ever to get his family finally got it. It was a beautiful story. And Cody's been doing a tremendous job. Uh, we have tons of huge superstars now. Like it's, it feels like, I don't know if you guys remember this, but for me, the attitude era was everything, you know, growing up in high school, Austin, rock, the D-Generation X.

It was awesome. Everyone always talked about it, right? And I've been in WWE for 20 years, and I didn't get to experience that. This feels, the way the energy is in the locker room, the way the energy is out in the crowd, it feels like a New Day attitude era, and I'm having a blast with it. Because it feels like, as we call it everyone's over which meaning every time a person walks out they get a huge reaction I mean you know how it is some teams get like crickets like the Carolina Panthers are getting crickets right now they can

even get people in the building like nobody wants to watch them right so there are superstars or have been superstars that would walk out maybe people didn't know them really well people didn't like them and didn't didn't even care it's like a bathroom break now there are so many superstars that we call quote-unquote over that it's it's very hard to get on a wrestlemania card right uh and so you asked who will be on the card we know this this it will be john cena's last wrestleman yes and this isn't like like motley crew saying this is our last final tour and then a year later they're doing another stadium tour right this is when john cena says something you better believe it and john cena has been a staple in wwe for a very long. He has been world champion almost, I think he's second in number of times

he's held the title. And he is the poster child. And he is the example that you want to be as a WWE superstar. He's a person that's first on the list to do all the media. He's number one in Make-A-Wishes. And he literally is the hardest worker, dedicated, amazing in the ring, amazing on the he's number one in make-a-wishes and he literally is the hardest worker dedicated

amazing in the ring amazing on the mic and even our our fans would critique him at times and be like oh cena's overrated cena's overrated i've been in the ring with him there's no one better there's a reason we call him the goat and superstars call him the goat right you headlined your first wrestle against John Cena. What was that moment like? Because you're headlining WrestleMania. That is your Super Bowl. It doesn't get any bigger in wrestling than WrestleMania,

and you're headlining against what many believe is the greatest wrestler of all time in John Cena. And in that moment, so I was the WWE champion. John Cena was the fighting baby face, right? And then the rock comes in for the first time ever, like has like in, in like nine years,

hasn't been seen in WWE, hasn't talked about WWE. And when I become WWE champion and I get the headline WrestleMania, the rock comes in and he's feuding with John Cena. Now, these are two huge megastars that have had time to really be the biggest they possibly can as a superstar. And then there's me who's trying to get up to that level.

Like I needed time. I needed effort. I got the WWE championship. But luckily, like I felt my promo skills and my ability to gain heat really exemplified what that main event could be and was. And it was, it was incredible. And I beat John Cena.

So yeah, like I'm putting my name in the hat as a person that would love to face John Cena at WrestleMania in Las Vegas because I'm 1-0 in main events against John Cena at WrestleMania. Now, will that happen? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Listen, when you think about all you've accomplished, when you think about all The Rock has accomplished, you think about all that John Cena has accomplished. What would you say to the young wrestlers or the entertainers who are looking to make a name for themselves

and do and follow in the footsteps and the path that you three have done? What do you tell the young wrestlers and entertainers? The best advice I've ever gotten was from a superstar named Billy Kidman. It was interesting. So I saw him at a party in L.A la and i was an up and coming like i was in the independent wrestling circuit which is like the the double a of like that's what it is it's the minor leagues right right and so i was training and trying to become a superstar and i went up to him i said what's your best advice and his his advice was stick with it, and it sounds so easy.

And when I said stick with it, he goes, yeah, think about it. Think about all the things that can take you away from becoming a WWE superstar. Relationships, money, area, you know, all these different things are all in your mind, and they play tricks on you, You know, when you're sitting there and you're in these minor leagues. And by the, at that time I was on the real world and I was doing challenges. And so I was like on TV and I felt like, and then I was also doing that. I was doing improv classes, acting classes. I was like, why isn't WWE taking me? I don't understand if they're not going to take me now, then when are they, maybe they'll never will. Maybe I'm not big enough.

Maybe, maybe I need to grow my muscles. So I got a nutritionist. I got, I had, I had a, um, a trainer and it just enough. Everything I did doesn't feel, didn't feel like enough. Didn't feel like enough until. And so there's so many ways, like you're just going to go, you know what? Maybe I find another Avenue. Maybe, maybe I find a different find a different job or a different thing

or something takes you away from your passion, from your love. So stick with it was the best advice I've ever gotten. That and then for younger like kids, when they come up to me, I want to be a superstar. I always tell them, find a character. Find a character that you think can relate to an audience, that an audience can react to. And then also start cutting promos.

And I don't care what you cut promos on. Go in the then also start cutting promos. And I don't care what you cut promos on. Go in the mirror and start cutting promos on yourself. When you're stuck in traffic and if you're a kid and you're in the backseat and mom's up there, you can start cutting promos on people in traffic, on anything and everyone. So I always say practice, practice, practice because I'm a person of habit. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you.

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Everything you just said, it all comes down to discipline. Obviously, the same concept of sticking with it, but you don't have no choice but to stick with it. As a rookie, in order that once you get in that door, the process of trying to be great at something, it starts all over. It starts all over. You're starting from scratch. Is it with wide receivers? Is it speed that they fail or not

knowing the plays or is it not being able to cut? What is it that if a first rounder, I remember Corey Coleman was a first rounder for Cleveland Browns. I was like, oh, that one, yeah. The next year he was gone. I was like, oh, that one, yeah. The next year he was gone. And I was like, how does this happen? Listen, the transition is very difficult. The transition is very difficult, even regardless of where you go

from a first round to an eighth round. There's an expectation for you and to live up to those expectations are very difficult because once you make it to the next level, you're part of the 1%. When you're part of the 1%, everybody is good. Everybody's good. You know, so what did you do? Like, so you were

in, in the wide receiver room, obviously, what did you do that separated you from everyone else? And obviously there's God given talent, right? But also I feel like there's something more that both of you did that everyone else wouldn't or couldn't do. Is that safe to say? Yes. In a sense, I think for me, there was God-given talent, but there was hard work, a lot of hard work that I also put in that was overshadowed by the fun and the antics and the celebrations,

and that was okay. So you obviously, for able to be able to pull some of the stuff off that i did the extracurricular activities i had to work my ass off to be able to pull it off the talking and be able to walk it every sunday for a decade straight and then obviously when it came to my route running that was what i was known for so i i when it comes to receivers you have to have one niche you have to have one niche that makes you special and separates you from everybody else so my niche was my footwork and my ability to run routes to run very very fast and stop on a dime and be able to transition and accelerate in less than two steps

and that that was always my thing yeah i think the thing is what i tell them is i said never never mistake habit for hard work because people sometimes think because you do something over and over, you're working hard. And so never mistake those two because there were two separate things. And the analogy that I like to use, I say, you see people go to the gym for 10, 15 years and their body never changes. They're going to the gym out of habit because they're not hardworking because we know we've seen the transition that when you work hard, working hard doesn't guarantee you anything. But without it, you got no chance.

And I also tell them there's no balance between greatness. There's no balance in greatness because either you want to be great or you don't. Because you're going to have to sacrifice something, man. You got to sacrifice something. You write down your goals on one side and then you write down what you're willing to sacrifice in order to reach those goals on the side. And if you're not if you're not willing to sacrifice to reach those goals. So whose fault is that? That's that's yours. And the Ocho said, you know, you got to be willing in order to do what others can't.

You have to be willing to do what others won't or can't. That's how you become that, because you have to be willing to do what others won't or can't. That's how you become that because you have to be, be willing to do something to set yourself apart. Ocho said, yeah, I had God given ability, but Ocho worked on that. He worked on his footwork.

He worked on being able to transition to get in and out of breaks. Therefore, he became the player that he became. But a lot of people just think like Ocho said, you're at the 1%, but everybody's good. Everybody got talent. God blessed everybody at that he became. But a lot of people just think, like Ocho said, you're at the 1%. But everybody's good. Everybody got talent. God blessed everybody at that next level.

I mean, you talk about 8 billion people, there are 1,500 people that do what we do. So you've got to set yourself apart in order to stay, to get, not only get there, that's the start of the journey. People think that's the end of the journey once they make a professional sport, make it to the WWE. That's the start of the journey. People think that's the end of the journey once they make a professional sport. Make it to the WWE. That's the start of it. The easy part is getting there. The hardest part is staying.

You know what the hardest part was? Being WWE champion and trying to get it back again. Yes. When you reach the top of the mountain and you feel like you're untouchable, and then literally the next few years, I got a reality check of like, Oh, Oh, I, uh, I have to elevate everyone else around me as well. People just don't elevate me. I need to learn how to elevate everyone else around me. So now it's, it's a whole nother responsibility that I had no idea I needed to have.

And you're like, Oh, okay. I guess I wasn't prepared for that. And now you gotta, and it's always learning. Like even at 44 years old, 20 years in the business, I'm still learning. And I'm learning from the younger guys as well, because some of them are very fast, very, very agile can, can do certain things. And maybe they don't know where the particular place is to place those things to get the biggest reaction from the crowd. And so that's where my knowledge can come in. But they keep me going. Like, I'm like, ooh, I can keep up with this kid.

I can keep up with this kid. Like, there's some people, some new talent coming into WWE that I look at and I go, man, I can't wait to wrestle this guy. Miz, you mentioned the Browns. So you're a Browns fan. What do you think about the Browns this season? You know, I started off with going on Rich Eisen's show and saying, we're going to be undefeated the entire year and we're going to the Super Bowl and we're going to win. And the first game in, I texted Rich and I go, yeah, um, I was a little off on that

because they have not, they just haven't looked like a team. They just, there's something off about them and I'm hoping, and I don't know if I'm hoping that Chubb coming back last game, he got the rust off. And I really feel that Chubb is the heart of that the heartbeat of that offense and everything goes through chubb and so with the defense that they have which i think they have amazing cornerbacks they have very good miles garrett one of the greatest ever in defensive players ever in in my opinion. And then you get Chubb back in there. I think they can start making a run.

And I went on Eisen today, and I said that we're going to go undefeated from now on. So that's the type of Browns fan you have right here. I am always positively optimistic. Well, if you ever leave the Browns, you can go join the Cowboy fans because they're delusional like you are. If you think y'all go undefeated and win the Super, you can go join the Cowboy fans because they're delusional like you are if you think y'all going to go undefeated and win the Super Bowl.

What happened to the Cowboys? They just don't have a running back. Is that what it is? It's a lot of things. Not a running back. They're not very good on either side of the ball. I think the thing is, if they weren't the Cowboys, we'd be like, oh, okay, they're a bad team.

But because they're the Cowboys, we kind of make excuses for them for why they're bad instead of just saying they are bad. Yeah. All right, who's a good team? Like a solid team? The Ravens, the Lions, the Chiefs. Chiefs. You know what's weird?

Mahomes hasn't even played like – everyone's been saying he hasn't played that well. But they're undefeated. He hasn't. Yes. Is that a culture that they can play like okay like travis travis hasn't been blowing people out of the water either and they just win they have is that a culture is that what the browns are missing they have an outstanding defense and they have a quarterback that when he has to make a play and he has to play good in a particular drive he does so he picks his he picks the best moments to play his

best football we absolutely got to have a drive he'll go get a drive together they'll go to touchdown to take the lead or they'll get him actually think you're out there right now that are like that that can do that maybe not at a patrick mahomes level but at least I can work with this. This guy can do it. Lamar. Lamar. Lamar Jackson. If I had to take, I would take Lamar behind Patrick Holmes. And then I would probably take

right now this year, I would take Jared Goff next. Then I would take Josh Allen. Those would probably be right now if I had to take someone. What do you think the Jets' problem is? They're depending on a guy that is not what he once was

and they pinned all their hopes. See, he has to be great in order for them to win because they were counting on him like their defense is going to hold people to 10 points, 13 points. but what happens when they don't and so they can't consistently put drive together and he's turning the ball over at a rate that we've never seen aaron rogers turn the ball over it hit wilson on the really chess like one of his i mean i was like how does that even his fault like yeah it's so interesting

football it's like it's like inches like today like thursday night game i mean i literally watched uh donald get a face mask yes and they take him down and there's no foul yeah and then the game's over and i went no we have a minute and two seconds left left. They can go down. Like, I'm not even a Vikings fan, but I was ready for a two-minute, like, drill and see if they can actually make a comeback. And he was standing right there. The ref was literally three feet away. How do you miss that?

You can't. You can't. But he did. He did. I mean, honestly, he was going to get, you know, they get judged just like, you know, obviously when you're wrestling, you get scouted, you get judged. I'm sure the official that the WWE said, oh, Amish, you probably should have done this when you did that and so forth and so on.

So officials get judged. And if they get judged, obviously you want to make the playoffs and potentially make the Super Bowl. But if you make too many of those egregious calls, you're not going to be in the NFL for long. I don't think Cubs getting traded either anymore. You can't trade them. They're three and four. They're one game out. There's been talk all week.

Pittsburgh's been excited. I said the same thing earlier. I think if they went to two and five or something like that, then the trade would have still been on. Even though that's like Stanford's best friend? Yeah. It's business. Business. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I mean, the Jets literally brought everyone from Green Bay for Aaron, you know, and they can't keep Stanford's great wide receiver? Nah, the cost, they don't care about no best friends. Not in that situation. Now, you do think that you want to get a player. Obviously, they wanted Aaron, and so, you know, they signed Laz obviously they wanted Aaron and so you know they signed Lazard they've signed you know they went and got Randall Cobb also

then you see they traded for Devontae, Tay Adams but in this situation they're like nah and I still believe if somebody comes along with a high enough draft pick Ocho and I was discussing this earlier Miz I think if somebody comes along with a high enough draft pick I still think they I was discussing this earlier, Miz. I think if somebody comes along with a high enough draft pick, I still

think they move it. Move Cup? Yeah. Second round? Well, I heard they wanted a third for him. So now you're thinking if someone comes and says, we'll give you a third, you think they would do it or you think it's got to be a second? Yeah. Third.

They would do it on a third? No way! It's Cooper Cup! Yeah. But he got a big prize. They would do it on a third? No way! It's Cooper Cup! Yeah, but he got a big prize. They want a high draft pick and the team, you know, they're going to want somebody to take the entire salary. They don't want to pay anything. Is a third round draft pick really that high anymore

with the NIL? Like, everyone's staying in college. Nah. NIL don't pay the kind of money that the NFL pay. Remember Caleb Williams, his dad, talking about where he might stay in college. They ain't got no $40, NIL don't pay the kind of money that the NFL pay. Remember Caleb Williams, his dad, talking about where he might stay in college. They ain't got no $40 million NIL deal. Well, Miz, man, thank you for joining

us. Congratulations on everything that you've accomplished. Good luck. Hopefully, we see you at WrestleMania. It's going to be in Vegas this year. Hopefully, Ocho and I get a chance to go check it out. I look forward. I've never been to a WrestleMania. You guys have an open invite. Please come down.

We'll see you guys. Thank you guys very much for having me on the show. I appreciate it. Appreciate you, bro. Enjoy the rest of the year. Later, guys. Man, that was great. We had Busta Rhymes on Busta.

The Miz. Man, that's unbelievable, man. It's great, Ocho, to talk to people outside of kind of what we do you know we're we're we know we're football players and we love talking to football players but when we get busted that's in the music and that's that's you know in the in the hip-hop culture rap we get me as that's in wwe or we get a a basketball player we get our uh next next week we're gonna have a griffey on because we're gonna talk a little bit of the world series so we're going to have Griffey on because we're going to talk a little bit in the World Series. So we're going to have Griffey Jr. on. And so

the thing that we try to do, Ocho, we try to give you, obviously we talk sports, but we're not as versed in baseball as Griffey will be. So he can tell us the things that we should look for, what's transpiring, why the Yankees are up, why the Dodgers are up, why the series

is tied. Because I don't know if we've had a world series. I can't remember the last time that we had a world that we had, but we had the two best players in the game. Right. Right. You got Shohei. You got Aaron judge. You got Soto.

You got Mookie bets. You got Brady Freeman. You got Garrett Cole. You, you got two iconic historic franchises giancarlo yeah yeah so it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't really get any better than this yeah so it would you know probably like when when the celtics were playing and you had bird and magic facing each other you had the two best players and the two most iconic franchises

going head to head right And so that's what we're asking for. That's what we ask for. So it's always great to talk to people outside of the sport of football. Hold on. I'm plugging my charge up because my computer going dead. All right. Cowboys kicker Brandon Aubrey

mispracticed on Wednesday with an unprecedented injury report designation. Jury duty. Aubrey is serving on a 12-person jury in a felony assault case in Tarrant County, Texas. The Cowboys reportedly tried to get Aubrey excused, but he insisted on doing it. Ocho, have you ever had a teammate miss practice or game due to jury duty? I have not because normally they get out of it because of, you know, you who you are being.

Everybody has a civic duty to do that, but normally a lot of times they'll excuse the person from jury duty because they're so high profile. Now, you know, obviously there have been high profile people to serve on jury duty, but a lot of times what the team, they'll hire someone, hire an attorney to go down there and speak on the player's behalf. And the court system will normally allow them to like,

okay, you're off this. But, you know, obviously he wanted to do it. He wanted to be a part of, he wanted to be a part of he wanted to be a part of a jury that that uh of this felony assault case uh which is you know uh i like i said i haven't i've never had a teammate to miss practice or miss a game because like i said normally team hires an attorney to go down there and speak on the player's behalf and the player gets off jury duty so have you ever had a teammate to miss practice or game because of jury duty oh absolutely not absolutely not that that has never happened you know during

during obviously during my tenure in the nfl uh nothing to that magnitude anytime players have missed practice um it's been because of personal reasons uh with family um birth of a child yeah but that's that's pretty much it. I've never had anybody actually miss a game in general during my time. But it's always been a family emergency, death in the family, or someone having a child. And it was always during the week when that happened,

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That is what's going to happen with D-Hop. D-Hop can catch everything under the sun. D-Hop can catch everything under the sun, and with the creativity and the scheming that andy reed does with that offense and putting players in position to make plays to continue to move the ball up and down the field right my home's accuracy man it's going it's going to get ugly it's going to be ugly and we're going to see the deandre hopkins of old we're going to see flashes of what he was able to do in arizona we're going to see flashes what he was able to do in Arizona. We're going to see flashes of what he was able

to do when he was in Houston. And he's going to put everybody on notice and let them know, regardless of his age, he can still play ball if put in the right situation, and he's given the opportunities to make those plays. Brock Purdy says he doesn't call audibles at the line of scrimmage.

He said the answer to what the defense may present is already built into the play. That is true. When he says it like that, that is true. Whatever the set is, based on what the defense does, there's always an open man. There's always an open man on every

single play, but that's a testament to Brock Purdy in knowing what the defense is running and what he sees pre-snap and what they do post-snap. And knowing where the ball has to go. That's a lot you got to work on.

Most of the time when you come out the huddle, you got two plays anyway. You got two plays anyway, and based on what you see in front of you, you got to make a check. Sometimes you hit your helmet like this, you got to make a check. There has to be a check. What do you mean you don't get audibles? You have to audible.

Well, I agree with you, but I think sometimes I think if because he was a Mr. Relevant, it's hard for me to see now as he gets a little older, I think they'll allow him to check at the line of scrimmage.

You don't think he has the freedom to check at the line of scrimmage. Right. Oh, I see what you mean. You don't think he has the freedom to do so yet? No, no, no, no. Whatever they call it, you just got to stay with it. Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. That's understandable, too.

Or when he goes to his helmet to do this right here, that's the audible. Yeah. That's what I said. Why are you saying the audible? I've seen you do it countless times. Right. Listen, if you got a run call play in the defense that they have presented, knowing you can't run the ball, what's the first thing you do?

You checking up out of it to whatever the second play is, you call it an auto. All right, Ocho, now it's time for our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. Hey, that's crazy. You know, I got a, what you call it? What? I done went from Miami to Philly.

Filmed Wednesday. Went from Philly Wednesday to Houston yesterday for my daughter's coronation. And went from Houston to LA today to do the Rams-Vikings game. I'm on the red eye tonight. I'm on the red eye tonight to do the MLS game in whatchamacallit. Matter of fact, you know

what? I forgot to say that. I forgot to talk about that too. Well, Nyser, did we all... Ocho, check this out. Nyser said, hello, Shannon Ocho. Ocho, please reconsider pulling up on Busta Rhymes. You don't know what you're getting yourself into. Ash wanted me to pass along.

She just gave you a number to Busta Rhymes. That's good. Because my red eye, my flight is at 1.30. 1.30 in the morning back to Miami. So I'm finna pull up on Busta. Busta don't know me. We know each other. He knows me very well.

He doesn't know the lyricist that I am. He's never seen that side of me. So I'm going to surprise him when he sees that side of me. And, you know, he's going to get his work. Danny Littlejohn says, Sharp Ocho, why doesn't the Steelers get the respect they deserve? They're tied with the Ravens for first place in the AFC North. Ocho, why don't the Steelers get the respect they deserve? They're tied with the Ravens for first place in the AFC North. Ocho, why don't the Steelers get the respect they deserve?

I mean, I think they do get the respect. They do get the respect they deserve. But I think all the noise and the talk about the Steelers has always been the quarterback controversy. Yes. The quarterback carousel, that's where all the attention has been going on. Obviously, the Ravens, they started very slow at 0-2, and it went on a goddamn tear since then,

and it looked like the best team in the NFL. Yeah. And so I think as Russell Wilson continues to look and do what he did last week, then I think the tension to the Steelers will transition from the quarterback to a low. They're second in the AFC North, and that's probably when the conversation will change,

and they will get the credit they deserve. I agree. Billy Skywalker, Ocho, you were more comfortable outside because you knew Ray Lewis was on the inside. I like that. I like where you went with that. What you don't, what you further realize is all my catches were in the inside. I just didn't prefer lining up in there.

I preferred coming in there from the outside in. You see? You see where I went with that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dominic Grantana, hey, Uncle, I've always wanted to know your opinion on John Mobley back in the day.

Mo was great. Mo didn't have the name of some of those other linebackers that played in his era, but he was sound. He could play the pass. Obviously, he was great against the run. Granted, showed up, did what he was supposed to do. Mo was great. I love being his teammate.

I think he made All-Pro one year, had over 150 tackles. John was a good player. He was a very good player. Edgar Rojas said, great show tonight. Thank you. Thank you to the guests and team tonight as well. Can you please wish my brother Jose

happy birthday? It's his 32nd birthday. He's a massive fan. My question is what's your favorite Halloween candy? Well, my favorite Halloween candy is candy corn. That's some bullshit. It's his 32nd birthday. He's a massive fan. My question is, what's your favorite Halloween candy? Well, my favorite Halloween candy, that's some bullshit. That's whack. Let's wish Jose Jr. a happy 32nd birthday.

Jose Jr., your brother Edgar wanted to wish you a very happy birthday. Happy 32nd birthday from the nightcap. Uncle Nocho, hopefully you had a great birthday today or if it's tomorrow, hopefully you're with family and friends celebrating, doing something great. So, Jose Jr.,

happy 32nd birthday. Happy 32nd. I'm just... I'll do the little bite-sized Snickers. I'll do Reese's Cup. I'll do Almond Joy. Anything except that wax, that candle wax, which is candy corn and damn licorice. Boy, you tripping.

What, candy corn the real deal? I bet you eat black licorice, huh? No. Hell no. Okay, okay. Yeah, I love me some candy corn, boy. No. That's wax.

That ain't nothing but candle wax. Melt it down and watch you to get the candle stick a wick a stick a wick in it hey nah hell nah who eat candy corn nobody but old people and kids ain't nobody in between eat no damn candy corn you gotta be between the ages of 18 months and six years old to eat candy corn or Or you got to be 72 to 105. I've been eating candy corn since 1983, boss. Every Halloween. I look forward to it.

Roberto Guapo, Yo Ogunochow, who are y'all favorite wrestlers growing up? My HBK, Y2J, Rey Mysterio, Jeff Hardy, my bad. Y'all already got these questions.

I've been in and out man I grew up with old school look I don't really know I mean I know a little bit about the WWE guys now obviously you know I knew The Rock wrestled and I know Roman Reigns and I know Cody Rose and Cena obviously Miz

but I grew up way way back when wrestling was regional Georgia Championship Wrestling, you had Mid-Atlantic, you had Florida, you had... I grew up with that. So I grew up with the old guys, the Dusty Rhodes, the Bobo Brazils,

the Ox Bakers, Sgt. Slaughter, Baron Von Raskin. Sgt. Slaughter. Yeah, man, I grew up Mr. Wrestling 1 and 2, Andre the Giant, Crusher Blackwell. I grew up Ricky Steen, and 2 Andre the Giant Crusher Blackwell I grew up Ricky Steam all those guys that's what Gordon Soley who's the greatest host ever

it is not even close my favorite wrestlers during my tenure or my day obviously Hacksaw Jim Duggan Jimmy Super Flash Snooker the Ultimate Warrior Yeah. Jimmy, Super Flash, Snooker. Yep. The Ultimate Warrior.

Mm-hmm. I mean, that's three off the top of the head. I could go with Andre DeDrian and Hulk Hogan. You know, the names that everybody knows. But those three were three of my favorites. Yeah, see, I'm going back. I'll go back with Mr. Fuji, Taro Tanaka. Oh, I'm talking about Pac Song. That's the man. Look here. Junkyard Dog. I'm telling you, man, Pac Song. That's the man.

Look here. Junkyard Dog. I used to love... Junkyard Dog. Yeah. You know, like I said, Ox Baker with the hard punch.

Yeah. Man, hey, my grandparents used to drag us all around. We went to Vidalia, Baxley, all the shows. We used to go to Savannah

because they all came to the Civic Center in Savannah, Georgia. And then, like I said, wrestling wasn't big like it is now. So they came to the little local... I, Georgia. And then, like I said, wrestling wasn't big like it is now, so they came to the little local. I mean, you see somebody like Andre the Giant, and you see some of your favorite wrestlers in Baxley, Georgia,

or Vidalia. They come to the Civic Center in Savannah. But my grandfather was a big wrestling fan. My brother and I, we were big wrestling fans. We tried to move on each other. It was great, but I loved wrestling. I don't watch it as much. I don't have time. I don't really watch ish now because I'm so

busy, Ocho. Now we got five days a week. I got two shows a night, Cap. First take a week, and I'm still taping one to two shows a week with Club Shea Shea. Matter of fact, I'm tripping. I forgot to tell you about tomorrow. What about tomorrow? That's why

the reason I even got to take a red eye and get up out of here tonight because I got to do the broadcast tomorrow for Messi's first playoff appearance. Yeah. Matter of fact, everybody in the chat, listen, I promise I'm not going to get emotional. I know I'm always on here crying

and stuff, man, but I want to thank all of you. Obviously, I want to thank everyone at Apple for giving me this opportunity and giving me this chance with this gig being my 57th, 11th job. As you know, tomorrow, October 25th, is the MLS Cup playoffs, the start of it.

Messi, you know, arguably or probably is one of the greatest players to ever play. He's making his first MLS postseason match against Atlanta United tomorrow, and I'll be making an appearance on the broadcast. So I'm making an appearance on the broadcast during the game. So listen, this is small steps. You got to crawl before you walk. So with me making a small appearance, hopefully it's turned into bigger appearances down the line, but I need all of you to make sure you download Apple TV and watch.

Download Apple TV and watch. It's free. You know how I am. I love free stuff, so it's free. So make sure you watch your boy on the broadcast tomorrow and let me know who you got winning the cup. All right? Tweet me and let me know. Appreciate y'all, and I'll see y'all tomorrow during the game. Enter Miami versus Atlanta United. Okay? G-Duran X-10.

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in the open free becoming one with orca or um they can turn on me and things don't go well you look like a seal and that that's fine that's fine and if there's if there was a way that i would want to go out and you can tell that story of all the things i've done and you know what chad went out in a way that only he could. And that is being eaten and killed by something that he is enthusiastic and passionate about. And that would be one way to go. I want to go out and do it to Frayla Hunter.

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Tay said what up 85 y'all have any haunted house memories damn I ain't been to the haunted house in years man

you know right now in Orlando you know they have all Halloween horror nights I haven't been able to enjoy Halloween horror nights because I'm always, you know, on the go doing football. Yeah. And so I haven't been to the haunted house in years. And when I was able to go, I don't even remember.

I don't even remember. I'm just being honest, man. Yeah, I haven't been to a haunted house. I have never been to a haunted house. So, all right, guys. Thank you for joining us. That concludes our episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for joining us.

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