Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: T.O. wants to return to the NFL & Coach Prime's mistake

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” react to Terrell Owens saying he wants to play for the 49ers this season, Coach Prime saying he tweeted at former players because he was "bored" and much more! ...02:50 - Tyreek wants to Retire in Miami05:25 - TO wants to join his son in SF20:47 - Johnny WIlson Eagles29:16 - Nabers vs Daniels ROY bet33:07 - Deion Sanders38:14 - Q and Ayyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:35 I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:03:17 I love Miami. I love every bit of it. My wife loves it. My kids loves it. My mom loves it. And it's just a beautiful city to live in. There's so much stuff to do. Obviously, I would like to retire in Miami.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I don't see why it can't happen. I don't see why it can't happen. I know how I would like to see him finish. When? I would like to see him finish in Kansas City. Do me one favor. Can you go back and find a player in
Starting point is 00:03:43 any sport that said he wouldn't like to retire from the team? Ocho Cinco said, I want to retire Bingo. Carson Palmer, Burrow, Collegeworth, Boomer Sison, yada, yada, yada. Every Bronco, every Cowboy, every Packer, every Viking.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Who says, nah, I think I want to play about seven, eight years here, then I'm going to move it on down the road. What's he supposed to say? Yeah, I think that I guarantee you, I'm not sure how it's going to happen. I'm not sure when it's going to happen because Tyreek
Starting point is 00:04:18 got a lot of tread left on the tires to play. He got a lot to play. But for some reason, I think when things end here in Miami, I have a feeling he teams up with Pat Mahomes one more time. He teams up with Pat Mahomes one more time and they make
Starting point is 00:04:34 another run at it together. Let me ask you a question. You think Tom Brady wanted to retire in New England? Yes or no? Oh, that's a good one, Unc. That's a good one. You he did that's a good one you think Brett Favre you think Favre
Starting point is 00:04:47 and all those guys before it soured before the team soured on them did they want to leave no no yeah they wanted
Starting point is 00:04:53 yeah quarterback situation a little different too I mean most cousins he wanted to stay in Washington
Starting point is 00:05:01 he wanted to stay in Minnesota it's reported one of the reasons why he didn't want to stay in Minnesota they were very upfront we're going to take a quarterback. And lo and behold, remember the old
Starting point is 00:05:11 adage, sometimes you can make your destiny on the very road you took to avoid it. Why did he go to Atlanta? Because Minnesota told him they were going to take a quarterback. And on his road, he made his destiny on the very road he took to avoid it. Atlanta took a quarterback earlier than what Minnesota did.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah. Yeah. A man can make his destiny on the very road he took to avoid it. I like that. I like that. Sometimes, listen, it's inevitable. You can't play the game forever and you're coming off injury. So they needed some insurance. They needed some security because the sample size of what they saw from the quarterbacks they already had there, it wasn't enough. you. We're going to gamble on that end, but if you go down, we're not gambling and leaving this quarterback on the table. We're not leaving this quarterback on the table, and there's an opportunity to get
Starting point is 00:06:10 him. Terrell Owens says he wants to join his son, Tariq, on the 49ers. Compared to LeBron and Bronny. Terrell Owens is 50 years old, hadn't played in the NFL since 2010.
Starting point is 00:06:26 He wants the San Francisco to have an open mind when it comes to reviving his career. That's especially true in the NFC West team signed his son Tyreek as an undrafted free agent. During an appearance on 95.7 The Game, he said, if anything, like LeBron James and his son, LeBronny, play on the same team in the same area, sign me up. I told Jed York, I'm telling John Lynch,
Starting point is 00:06:48 trust me, I'm a viable option on third down to the red zone. I can still get the job done. And I absolutely can. Man, stop this. Hey, absolutely can. This is one of those situations
Starting point is 00:07:00 with me as well. With me as well. There are certain people, you know, age is nothing but a number. There are people that are just freakish athletes regardless of age.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Tara Owens is one of them. Tara Owens is one of them. I vouch for my dog. I'm telling you right now. Never stop working out to this day. In shape. In shape. Still catching.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Still training. So let me get this right. He last played in 2010. in shape, still catching, still training with the current NFL players. He last played in 2010. Nobody called in 2011, 2012, 2013, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19. So now they're going to
Starting point is 00:07:38 call in 2024. Listen, nobody was calling to date me for about seven, eight years too. And all of a sudden, a call came out of nowhere, and boom, I've been dating ever since. But all it takes is one. Your dating doesn't rely on your athletic ability. Rel ain't going to call your ass if you in a wheelchair.
Starting point is 00:08:02 If you can't walk, you on crutches. She calling you? What, is she betterutches, she calling you? What, she better? She calling you. Be for real. Since you went there hypothetical, she calling you. Yes or no? No. So, and that's what I'm saying. T.O., bro,
Starting point is 00:08:18 I love you to death, bro, but give this up. It's over. It's over. It ain't never over. You know what? It is over. It's over. It ain't never over. It is over. It's over when the fat ladies sing. When the fat ladies sing, that's when it's over. She's 700 pounds.
Starting point is 00:08:34 It's over. She on my 600 pounds. That's it. I like it. I like the vision though. I like the vision. LeBron. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:08:47 So let's just say for the sake of argument, LeBron James had been retired 14 years. Right. So now he's 50. He let's just say 10 years. He's on LeBron is 50 years old. Right. You think somebody going to sign LeBron James as great as he was? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:04 To let him come back and play with his son? Yeah. No, it's not going to happen. It's realistic for LeBron because LeBron is currently playing. His son is in the NBA draft. They weren't going to do that for Ken Griffith Sr. He asked to play with his son. If I'm not mistaken, I think he was with the Rangers. Was he
Starting point is 00:09:26 with the Rangers? And they end up releasing him. They gave him the opportunity, but he was still an active player. He wasn't retired for a decade plus. Yeah. When I look at the game today and where the game
Starting point is 00:09:42 is going and where the game has come, the rules of the game is going and where the game has come. The rules of the game. The nature of the game. And I think about T.O. obviously being one of the greatest to ever play. Top two.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Top three. He hasn't played in 15 years! There are a lot of things I haven't done in 15 years that if I had to do it tomorrow. And you can't do it with the same. Ocho, so you believe you can run a set? You can run a 40. You can run a 40 in 4-4.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Oh, whoa, whoa. Don't you? Listen, I'm not the one to challenge when it comes to anything athletic right now. As a matter of fact, as a matter of fact, that guy that you challenged last night, the one to 100 and 200 in Texas, he hit me up. He said, put it on the line.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Tell him drop it on the floor. Yeah, he said, put it on the line. Tell him drop it on the floor. Tell him drop it on the floor. I got him. Tell him drop it on the floor. I got all my money. I got all my money on him. He'll spot you 10 yards and beat you in 100. We'll hit lose. You do realize I still
Starting point is 00:10:42 train as if I'm playing. I don't care. Wait, let me finish let me finish you do understand i play in a soccer league so i'm in i'm in elite shape right now running every day you do realize that right i do you do i train as if i'm still playing because i play on a team where i have to be at my best weekend and week out. You in 46-year-old shape. You ain't in 26-year-old shape. My 46-year-old shape is better than some of the 20-year-olds. Don't go there. No, it ain't.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Shit me. No, it ain't. See, I'm going to make you a believer. That's what I'm going to do. No, you ain't. No, you ain't going to make me a believer. Matter of fact, me and T.O. are going to make you a believer because the Bengals called me today.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Zach Taylor said they're going to bring me in a training camp. Hey, they called you to say how you doing, and they got a reunion coming up, and they ask, do you want to come back? Hey, no, but all jokes aside, all jokes aside, all jokes aside, even a 50-year-old Tara Owens can go out there and be productive in today's game. And I will die on that hill.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Oh, Joe, the thing is that you know the first thing to go is what? Your lateral movement. Guys can still run straight ahead. Oh, straight ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know the game ain't played like that. Oh, yeah. It never has been. Yeah. Never has been. But listen, hey, man,
Starting point is 00:11:58 T, man, these corners, man, they won't stand a chance, man. Man, Ocho. They won't stand a chance. 50, bro. 50. Yes, it it does oh joe so let me ask you a question how many people how many 50 old jerry rice wasn't as good was he the physical specimen most jerry jerry was the only one and he caught passes at 42 so terror orders eight years remote he hadn't played in the NFL in 15 years. But he's eight years older than
Starting point is 00:12:28 Jerry and Jerry was playing every year for 20 straight. Come on, Ocho, man. Damn. Listen, let me ask you a question. It's 32 NFL teams, right? Yes. How many receivers you think are on each team? At least five.
Starting point is 00:12:44 At least five on each team. Five times 32. What's that? I'm not a math major, so I'm going to let you figure it out. 160. So you think there are 160? No, 190. So out of that 190, you think all 190 receivers on these
Starting point is 00:13:00 NFL teams are better than T.O.? 160. 35 times two is 160, right? 160. Let's put is 160, right? 160. 160, yeah. Let's put things in perspective. Okay. You think there are 160 players
Starting point is 00:13:12 better than T.O. right now? At the age of 50, yes. Man, shit. Hey, you remember the wire? Remember doing it from the wire? Shit. Man, you tripping, man. Yeah. Hey. At 50, yeah. You. Man, you tripping, man. At 50? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:28 You, man, alright. Okay, you know, chat. Chat, there are 160 people in the NFL right now. Young gongs, young bulls. Do you think every last one of them is better than T.O. right now at 50? Yeah. Shit.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Hell no. Man, T. Yeah. Shit. Hell no. Man, Tio would run circles around some of them dudes right now. Could he outrun some of them in a 40? Yes. All of them. Except the top. Except the top runners. Except the top boys.
Starting point is 00:14:00 See the hyperbole. See, you guys, you don't know how to take a compliment. You guys go overboard. I didn't go overboard what did i say yes you did the man so what okay so i wish i i wish i had a list of people right now and just what person chad what person y'all believe? I mean, think about how Jordan looked. Now he let himself go. He didn't let himself go the year and a half he was out. But imagine had Jordan waited 15 years and tried to do it.
Starting point is 00:14:36 So instead of coming back and playing, he would have waited. So he left in 93. He didn't play 94, 95, he played half of 95. So now he comes back in 93. He didn't play 94, 95. He played half of 95. So now he comes back in 2009. Y'all still believe Jordan could have competed? Man, stop, Ocho. UK, how you going to tell Jordan what he can do? If he believes in himself and believes he can do it,
Starting point is 00:14:58 how you going to tell him what he can do? It's not about believing, but it's about a level of expectation because you got to realize, what is T.O. set? See, coming out there, oh, he can make a couple of thirds. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what people remember T.O. for. Right. T.O. has the third most receiving touchdown.
Starting point is 00:15:16 T.O. has the third most receiving yards. So he can't come back and play a third down or a red zone. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Why he can't? Because that's not the expectation that the people have for him well listen expectations out the window when you're given an opportunity to do a certain thing whoa you just said to was gonna be to now you want to lower the bar because you said why would you lower the bar? He lowered the bar. Did you notice he personally said,
Starting point is 00:15:45 I can come in and do certain things on third down? That's why he said that. Man, he 50. In a pro sport like football, he not going to take those licks like that anymore, Ochoa. What licks are we taking in these days anyway? We damn near playing flag football. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Ask Kareem Johnson, I mean Kareem Jackson about licks. these days anyway. We damn near playing flag football. Yeah. Do they? Ask Kareem Johnson. I mean, Kareem Jackson about licks. Ain't no licks going on. At all. In a minute, I'm telling you, we're going to be playing two-hand touch. Oh, Lord have mercy.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah. T.O. can play right now. I'm standing on that hill. Play what? T.O. Anything. Nah. Flag who? Nah. 49ers. T. Anything. Nah. Flag who?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Nah. 49ers. T gonna be like. Let's go, T. Boy, y'all get bad people say anything. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say,
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Starting point is 00:18:55 that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
Starting point is 00:19:28 The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But I just tried to figure out in a pro sport, nobody called you for 15 years. Well, in 15 years, your son hadn't been... Your son being there ain't got nothing to do with you. You aging. Well, that's what this is talking about.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Him wanting to play with his son, even if it's in just training camp. I like the idea. I like the vision. I like where he's going with it. So let me ask you a question. If that's the case, if teams thought T.O. could play,
Starting point is 00:20:26 why didn't they call him in 2011? He can play in 2011. Well, why didn't they call him in 2012? Okay, why didn't he play in 2012? I don't know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But you said he could still play. So I need you to tell me
Starting point is 00:20:39 which one of these 32 teams, because there were 32 teams back then too. In 2010, there were 32 teams. So I'm just trying to figure out, I just want you to tell me why didn't they call him 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22,
Starting point is 00:20:56 23? I mean, Tio has ventured off and doing other things. I know he ventured off. He probably didn't answer, honestly. Man, Tio has been talking about getting back in the league every year since he last got played in the league. So stop doing that. He does this every year.
Starting point is 00:21:14 So don't do that, Ocho. Don't do that now. I don't know. I didn't hear that. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. Pull up the articles, Ash. Because when I was on What You Call Him,
Starting point is 00:21:24 he was talking about somebody calling him during the season. You do it every year. So you still haven't told me why they haven't called him in 15 years. Well, when I think about this, I'm glad you brought that up.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Because I've received a few calls that come back and play as well, but I didn't answer them. Ocho, stop it. Ocho, I'm not going to let you tell people that. Because I... Tell me who it was.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And I'll call them and ask. Oh, it was the Bengals, but I couldn't make it. No, no, no. Don't worry. Don't say no more. Don't say no more. I'll call them tomorrow and ask. I'll get back to the chat on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:21:54 All right. Ask them. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I couldn't make it. No, no, no. I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I'm going to ask them. Right. I'm going to have somebody very close to Mike Brown. Very close. I can call Mike right now. You don't need to do that. I need to call him for myself. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Because what I'm going to do, oh, yeah, we did call. No, no, no. Ain't going to be no joke, joke. Nah. I'm going to have somebody very close. Yeah. I'll get back to y'all on Wednesday chat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah. Yeah. I'll get back to y'all on Wednesday chat. Yeah. I didn't got. Because I ain't going to let you put that. I can't let you put that out there for the chat. Yeah, yeah. I'll get back to y'all on Wednesday, chat. Because I can't let you put that out there for the chat. I can't let you put that out there now. If it's real, I'm going to come back and tell the chat.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yes, they reached out. You said last year? Huh? You said last year. No, I forgot what year that was. Okay, okay. That's what I thought. Yeah, but the call came. Okay, now we moving on.
Starting point is 00:22:42 We moving on, chat. Johnny Wilson. Suck out. Johnny Wilson stuck out like a sore thumb in Eagles rookie practice. Listed at 6'6", 231 pounds. There weren't very many wideouts to match Wilson's height. A six-rounder
Starting point is 00:23:00 out of Florida State admitted he modeled his game after Harold Carmichael, who was listed at 6'8", 225 pounds when he played for the Eagles. Wilson Hite led to speculation he could switch position from wide receiver to tight end. The Eagles are thin at the position behind Dallas Gardner and C.J. Uzama. But the position switch isn't going to happen in Philly at the moment. I play receiver.
Starting point is 00:23:24 A lot of people have an opinion on what I should be. I'm on the team. I play for the Eagles. There's been no talk about me being a tight end. Do you remember Harold Carmichael? He was tall as hell. I used Harold Carmichael on my
Starting point is 00:23:39 ultimate team on Madden. I think Harold went to Jackson. Did Harold go to Jackson or Southern? I think he went to Southern. Because I had a... I had a friend. I think Harold Carmichael went to Southern. Because he went to Southern as a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:23:57 He went to Southern as a quarterback. And the coach told him, he said, nah, you ain't play no quarterback here. Right. They put him at wide receiver. Yeah. When I was going to, I used to see him a lot of times
Starting point is 00:24:08 when I was going to the, going to Super Bowls and stuff, but I hadn't seen Harold in a minute. But yeah. How tall is he? 6'6". Harold was 6'8". No, not Harold.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I know Harold was 6'. This guy is 6'6". 6'6", what? By what? 2'31". So he got the frame.". 6'6", what? By what? 6'6", 231. So he got the frame. He can put on a little 10, 15 pounds and be, I mean, he can be Gonzalez. He could be Grant.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Hell, Grant. Grant 6'6". Yeah. I mean, I like him playing receiver at 6'6", but again, as long as you have the tools, as long as you have the tools, even though you're 6'6", to be efficient within the offense, within the timing of the offense. Obviously, you're very tall. You know, being able to get off the ball.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Can you get off the ball? Can you beat press? Can you beat man-to-man? Like all those small things. Now, if you struggle in those areas because you're playing against smaller guys that are much quicker than you that are going to challenge you that's going to try to disrupt
Starting point is 00:25:11 the timing of the offense because you are 6'6", you know, then it might be time if you struggle in that area to bring yourself inside to give you a better chance at creating separation and getting open. Finding spaces, finding holes.
Starting point is 00:25:24 That's a big-ass target. Yes. You remember Matt Jones? You remember Matt Jones was a quarterback. A big target to run fast. They drafted him as a wide receiver. Yeah. There's more to playing a wide receiver than running fast.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Yeah. They found that out. Quick. And to move him to tight end, now granted, it'll be a little easier transition now because they block less. Right. For me, move to tight end, Ocho, it was a mindset.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Right. You know, because here I am, they move me to tight end, I'm 215 pounds. Mm-hmm. But I'm just like, nah, you're not going to whip my ass all day. I'm going to win some of these. I'm going to get me a couple of leagues. I might have to run after with Ocho,
Starting point is 00:26:01 but I'm going to get me a couple of leagues in. Right. Oh, no, you're not going to beat me up all day. Oh, dude. And so the thing is, it's mine. Like I said, I think they're going to start him out. We'll see what he can do. How does he get against press? How does he release?
Starting point is 00:26:16 Does he run the circle? Because, son, I can't have you running wide. You need to take as narrow a stem as possible. You have to press, stack him, because if all you do is run the loop, Duke going to run you out of bounds. Every time. Every time.
Starting point is 00:26:31 That's what guys don't understand. See, they think it's college. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I got speed. I just release without running. Oh, no. Everybody is just as fast as you, if not faster.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And riding right out of bounds. Yes. And you know they're going to arm bar him. Put that arm out there. Riding right on up out of bounds. Come on, son. You got to get off press. And you know what most of the people are going to do
Starting point is 00:26:55 because he's so damn big? They're going to jump jam him. I'm going to press the ish out of him. That big ass target. Yes. They're going to jump jam him. Yes. And know when you're that tall, your quick twitch fibers ain't really like that.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Because guess what, Ocho? When you're that tall, what you got to do? You got to sink down and start getting up. You got to sink down. Yeah. If anything, you better start low. Hey, listen, don't start high to come low just to get off the ball. You better start low with your shoulders already down,
Starting point is 00:27:23 like you're coming out the goddamn blocks or something. Now that you mentioned it, now I'm curious. Now I want to see him run routes. I want to see him do one-on-one now. That's a big, that's a big, like I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:27:34 like, okay, you look at Randy. Randy was 6'4". Yeah. So he's two inches taller. But Randy, Randy was slender. Randy, what, Randy,
Starting point is 00:27:42 you think Randy, what was Randy? Two, 200, 210 maybe? Wait, but don't forget now, Randy Moss also ran a damn 4'1", 4'2". Yes, he ran 4'2". But that's what I'm saying. The angular frame. Dude's 231.
Starting point is 00:27:55 That's a big, even though he's 6'6", that's still a big-ass kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a big boy. That's a big-ass target, Ochoa. Big boy. Yeah. Hey, unless he got 4'3 speed, I'm pressing. Yeah. that's a big ass target on Joe boy hey unless he got 4-3 speed I'm pressing
Starting point is 00:28:08 yeah hell he might be strong as hell now if he's good at the point of attack he might be able to pull and tug like Brandon Marshall used to do real well damn Brandon Marshall T.O. they would welcome contact man
Starting point is 00:28:24 pull and tug and get through and stay right within the timing of the offense every time. I still don't know how they do that shit. Bro, you got to realize how big they were. You look at Megatron's what, 6'3", 6'4", 241. Brandon Marshall, Julio. Those guys, you know, yeah, they want
Starting point is 00:28:40 to play. Now, hey, Red Zone? I'll put his ass out wide. I'll back shoulder fade his all day long. Like Jimmy Graham? I got a role for you, son. Son, if you can just get off press just a little bit, we can use you in the red zone because that's a big-ass target.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I ain't got to be perfect, Ocho. Just throw it up. Just throw it up. Put it in the vicinity and let him do the rest because I'm sure he has a basketball background anyway as well if he's 6'6". I hope so. Because how Randy make his name? Well, he mossed him. Randy going up
Starting point is 00:29:12 over the top. Over the top. Every time. So at 6'6", hey, even with a little 35-inch vertical, you getting on up there because you already got, you're going to be, you're four inches, five inches taller than the average corner in the NFL anyway. Right. So you already the NFL anyway. Right. So you already had an advantage.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Right. So, I mean, I like it. I'm going to check him out. I'm going to check him out, Ochoa. I'm going to pay attention to him. I'm going to watch him get an opportunity to see what he can do. And I'm going to pay close attention to him in the preseason.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Preseason. Because I want to see. Yeah, I'm going to see. 6'6 at receiver? I ain't really... Have we seen anything like that? It ain't been that tall in a long time.
Starting point is 00:29:53 6'4, yes. 6'5, yes. Tight end, 6'6, yes. We've seen Jimmy Graham. Wrong. Wrong. Jimmy Graham. 6'5.
Starting point is 00:30:01 What was... How tall is... Kelsey? No, Kelsey about 6'4. Yeah six four yeah who oh you know who was tall as hell but he was a tight end martellus bennett that's no okay yeah martellus was tall tell us like six seven yeah um play play play with the jaguars a while ago oh oh you talking about a mercedes mercedes mercedes lewis yeah mercedes mercedes tall i don't know i like it i like it i wish him well i wish him well i i hope during this time if
Starting point is 00:30:34 he really wants to play receiver especially at that height he gets with a coach that can help with the with the intangibles and all the all the nuances because of his height so he can excel at the position so they don't try to change him or move him to tight end. Man, look here. They're going to move me to anything. I'm in the NFL. I said I wanted to play in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I didn't say what position. I left that open. I left that open. Yeah. TBD, to be determined. To be determined. Yeah, hey. Hey, Ochoa, I ain't have no pain.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Whatever you need, coach. I'm here. I'm available. Even if it was just special teams, I'm in the lead. Yeah, I got you. Malik Nabors had a huge rookie of the year bet with Jayden Daniels. Malik Nabors and Jayden Daniels are going from teammates to rivals, and there's a lot on the line.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Nabors was selected sixth overall and said he and Daniels, who was selected two overall, have a massive bet when it comes to Rookie of the Year. We're going to bet Rookie of the Year, whoever loses has to pay $10,000 in cash. I like it. I like that. I like it. I like competition. That's a good, healthy competition at that.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Yeah. Good, healthy competition. Malik, you're at a disadvantage because you play a dependent position. Yeah. Malik Davis, I mean, Jay ain't going to have the ball in his hands all the time. Yeah. He can throw it and run it. I think it's a good bet.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Malik Davis, if he's anything like what we've seen at LSU, even though he's in New York, even though there's unsurity at the quarterback position. He's so good. I think he can overcome the inconsistencies at the quarterback position because they're going to put him in position to make the plays they can make. I'm not saying he's Odell Beckham. I think he has the potential to be just as good.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Maybe not his rookie year. But Odell Beckham. I think he has the potential to be just as good. Maybe not his rookie year. But Odell had Eli. Yeah. You think Daniel Jones, Eli? No, no, I'm not. Let's not do that. Let's not disrespect Eli. The great manning.
Starting point is 00:32:37 But Malik Nabors has that type of talent. And so I'm hoping that I'm open. He gets an opportunity to get a chance at winning this bet. But Jaden Daniels, obviously being the quarterback of the Washington Commanders, is going to have the ball in his hands all the time. And it's definitely going to have an advantage. Because think about it. Think about this.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Look at the season Puka Ntukua had. And he lost that war to CJj stroud right yeah look at the year justin jefferson hey yeah he lost that to justin herbert yeah so quarterback of that advantage man i mean puka the most receiving yards by a rookie in nfl history yeah and overhunt and the most catches for rookie. And he lost the award to CJ. Man, the quarterback got the advantage. It is what it is. Always. The Heisman Trophy winner.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Man, now the running back got to rush for like 2,500 yards to get a Heisman. Mm-hmm. Because the quarterback, he's going to throw for 4,000. He's going to probably rush for another 1,000. They're going to have 40 to 50 touchdowns. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:45 When you were a rookie in the league, you had any bets? I bet my brother one year. For real? Yeah, I bet I was going to catch more passes than he did. I called 53, he called 108. He called 108. We will close on y'all then I came back the next year
Starting point is 00:34:11 I caught 81 he caught 112 and then the closest I got the closest I got I caught 80 his last year in the league I caught 87 he caught 94
Starting point is 00:34:20 yeah Brett was slinging that thing what yeah so I was I was close I was close that's funny he caught 94. Brett was slinging that thing, boy. Yeah. So I was close. I was close. That's funny. Oh, man. What?
Starting point is 00:34:39 Okay, guys, it looks like people have been following the wrong 84. It's 84 spelled out. So you have to look at 84 C-L-O. It's 84 spelled out. So you have to look at 84 CLO. It's in my bio, right? So just go look at the bio and you can see it. 84 is actually spelled out, not at the number 84. The 84 is actually spelled out CLO as in 84 clothing. Coach Prime defends his recent tweets
Starting point is 00:35:06 about former players by saying, I was bored. Prime, I gotta do better and not ride with it. But I was bored. I was bored. I didn't say nothing hurtful. I don't attack people. That's too bad.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Man, give me your phone, Ty. As a matter of fact i should go out there i think i think i think you back home i didn't come out there fishing hey he told me he told me i can't i can't keep the fish and you gotta put yeah you gotta throw the fish back now yeah yeah he got a bad he got a bass i think he got a bad pond he got a crappy pond i don't know if he got a bass. I think he got a bass pond. He got a crappie pond. I don't know if he got a catfish pond. I know he got a bass and a crappie pond. But I throw the bass back, but the crappie, you know, we got a good old mess of fish. K by four or five, about the size of your hand
Starting point is 00:35:56 right there. Right there, that's a good old eating. You going to cook them? Yeah. If you cook them, ain't going to be no fish left in the damn pond. I ain't trying to catch all the fish., ain't going to be no fish left in the damn pond. I ain't trying to catch all the fish. I ain't trying to be like Bootsy, go out there and catch 200 fish every time. 200 fish.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Right. Yeah. But see, when you used to go bass fishing, they had tournament fish. That's what they did. They let you catch as many fish as you can. Now,
Starting point is 00:36:20 you got a five fish limit. Yeah. And you have to have an aeration system got a five fish limit. Yeah. And you have to have an aeration system to keep the fish alive. Before, people were catching 50, 60, 70 fish.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Yeah. Well, you got 40 fishermen. You clean out a couple of times, you're going to clean the lake out. So, now, if you notice, they got a five bass limit. But you know me i'm the black kevin van damme i go out there i'm gonna wipe them out you wipe them out yeah you're better than me obviously listen i live in miami fishing is huge it's big here and i ain't never been on
Starting point is 00:36:59 i ain't never been on no boat man as far as fishing is concerned because i just don't have the patience if i have to sit down anywhere if i have to sit down anywhere for hours it's going to be playing fifa or call of duty when you grow up in the country you're gonna be so guys the clothing brand is e-i-g-t-y f-o-r-c- L O. So 84 is actually spelled out 80 at 84 C L O clothing. So hopefully that, uh, that helps you guys out. No, but see, you had to go fish. You had to go fishing. Like my grandmother worked at, uh, at a nursing home. Right. So she's like, okay, you know, we go in fishing.
Starting point is 00:37:42 So I would have to go dig bait. i go and i'll go in the uh i would go in the uh uh where water was in the ditch i dig baits we had kind of like a bait bed where we'd have throw like like slop and stuff and and uh and throw slats of wood over it right keep it moist and the base was there we go i'd go dig the base there. My grandfather actually had a refrigerator. The refrigerator, once it wasn't no good, my grandfather Reesville, he put dirt in there and he had
Starting point is 00:38:14 like, I think he had red wigglers. I think he had red wigglers. Might have been Louisiana pink. But they're only certain. Like red wigglers, Louisiana pink, night crawlers, jumping jacks, what they call. Had crickets. We had a thing.
Starting point is 00:38:29 We had crickets. Bless you. We had a thing that had crickets. You know, we fed them moist bread. They ate that. Oh, yeah. Moist bread? Yeah, we fed the crickets.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yeah, we had a big old thing that, you know, that we had my grandfather go to the cricket farm, buy crickets, they hatch, and you know, we put a thing in there, that's what you fed them. We put water in there, they drank water, they ate the bread. Yeah. Well, that's my first time hearing about that. As they say,
Starting point is 00:39:00 pin it in the chat. Can you pin it in the chat? Okay. Yeah, but I used to go fishing all the time. I don't go as much. Since my grandmother passed, I hadn't really gone. I went one time, went deep sea fishing.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I went to the Big Island of Kona. it ain't the same. I mean, I would go again same I mean I would go again I mean if you know somebody wanted to go I would go but I need to go with I need to go with some guys so I can talk ish
Starting point is 00:39:34 yeah listen if you go let me know when you're going I'm going man she always talk about she want to do something I'm going to I want to know what it's like to fish knowing you you'll fall in the lake hell no
Starting point is 00:39:51 I ain't taking you nowhere she got the worst look all you hear is blue shoot what is that Ash fell in the lake everybody already know Ash fall in the lake so no we're not taking you
Starting point is 00:40:06 we damn sure ain't taking you on no boat cause I ain't finna jump in the ocean now it's time Ocho for Q and A Q and A
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Starting point is 00:40:50 I'll see what I can do, Ocho. I appreciate you, man. I appreciate you. If the sunshine and the water don't rise, I'll get it to you. That's a good one. Hey, hold on now.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Hold on. Hold on. Hell no. I'm for the you that way. Hey, that's a good line in the argument, right? That's a good line in the argument to throw off.
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Starting point is 00:44:48 Shit me. Don't send it to mine because I don't know. Don't do that. Ocho. If the sun. If the sun shines and the water don't rise, I'll send it to you. Okay. But it look like the water going to rise.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I'm going to change the end of that. So I'm gonna change the end of that. I'm gonna change the end of that during the argument. If the sun's shining the water right. Okay. I like that.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Uh, Ocho, tell Rel to DM Ash your address. Ash already got my address. Ash said she don't got it. She got it
Starting point is 00:45:24 because the same address y'all use to send my plaques. The volume said the plaque. Huh? The volume said that. The volume got my address then. Oh, okay. Are you part of the volume?
Starting point is 00:45:36 They got Colin, Colin, Colin got my address. I turned it down, so I don't, I don't. Yeah, we're getting... We got... How many do you need? A mug? Yeah. One. I'm the only one drink coffee in here.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Okay. Rel don't need one? Nah, nah. She don't drink no goddamn... I'm going to say Rel got to get one. So I send two okay I appreciate it hey well you're
Starting point is 00:46:07 you're a good dude man you're a good matter of fact that to me that's romantic me and Rel early morning getting up
Starting point is 00:46:14 I'm making man Rel ain't getting up to drink no coffee sitting on the back porch with you yes she will cause I play my jazz I play my jazz
Starting point is 00:46:20 I play my you know my goddamn Jizzy Gillespie you know my Louis Armstrong. She'll come out there with me in the morning on Saturday mornings. She'll come out there with me, listen to my music while I smoke. All right, Lainey Ray said, not trying to cause trouble,
Starting point is 00:46:37 but I got to know what you guys think. People always do that. They say, I don't mean to bother you, but I'm going to bother you anyway. Yeah. Now, she don't want to cause no trouble but she gonna cause it anyway it's just like anytime somebody say hey i don't mean no disrespect what's about to come out their mouth is gonna be disrespectful not trying to cause trouble but i gotta know what you guys think a guilt take on goldberg shouldn't have missed the game for the birth of his child me Me, let me take it from my perspective.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Yeah. My child is going to be born. Uh-huh. But I got a different mindset, so I'm probably the wrong guy. Because it all depends. If it's a playoff game, we're going to have another baby. I don't know if I'm going to be able to make it to the playoffs. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:22 If it's the Super Bowl, I'm damn sure I ain't missing that. Missing that, right. Now, in Rudy's case, the baby was born, and I'm assuming, I'm hoping, that mother and child was okay. Okay, yeah. Once I find out mother and child is okay. I'm out of there. I'm gone.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I'm gone. That's just me. Now, I'm not going to beat Rudy up. Hey, if I'm not mistaken, I me now I'm not finna beat Rudy up hey that's just if I'm not mistaken I think I think it's his first child so he
Starting point is 00:47:49 different mindset yeah everything let him get the number two he might FaceTime the whole he might Zoom the whole thing yeah it's different
Starting point is 00:48:02 the first one you know how y'all with your first one yeah doing everything right once baby once baby and mama good yeah it's different the first one you know how y'all with your first one yeah but what's baby what's baby and mama good man i'm out like a scout on a new route oh yeah where you going to the game but but ocho that's something that you need to have discussed right beforehand so therefore when it happens nobody's surprised by what by what the party does right so i'm maybe they didn't have that discussion but i'm gonna have that discussion said look regular season game right hey that you know what that's a great question now that i think about it
Starting point is 00:48:43 because there's so many players and I wonder what would happen if circumstances like this has happened to you. What would you do? That's a good question to ask players, especially players that are active right now. I'm trying to think what I would do. You know, I'm playing. I ain't missing no game. Yeah. I ain't missing no game yeah I ain't missing no game listen in delivery room
Starting point is 00:49:08 in whoever I'm having a child from would understand they wouldn't even want me to miss a game that type of part they wouldn't want me to miss no game
Starting point is 00:49:16 well if you don't get your ass out there and go play I'm trying to watch you I'm trying to watch you on TV that's that's my people hey I'm trying
Starting point is 00:49:23 I'm trying to make sure that thing happen you know I'm trying to hey sure that thing happens. You know, I'm going to try to get it in July. So guess what? The offseason, the baby come out in the offseason. You got to plan. Y'all got to plan a little better. Common sense. I like it. You know what I'm saying? But like I said,
Starting point is 00:49:38 I'm going to have that discussion once he find out, okay, man, I think I might have a baby in like May, June. Okay. Okay, just what we're going to do. I'm going to be there for the birth. Once you okay, I'm gone.
Starting point is 00:49:56 We good? Okay. Long as you there. Just know, NBA finals. Push, baby. Push. Come on push baby push come on baby you doing so good that's beautiful you gotta breathe
Starting point is 00:50:13 relax that's just me look everybody some people like hey my child I'm gonna be the first, second, third. I want to be there. I ain't finna beat you up about it. Me, I already know how I am.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I'm going to already have discussed it with her. We're going to be in agreement. Hey, you going, hey. Yeah. And see, I'm just thinking about, I can see Rhea right now. If I was playing and she was delivering. Man, I can can see real right now. If I was, if I was playing and she was delivering, man,
Starting point is 00:50:47 I can hear, I can hear real right now, man. If you don't get your motherfucking ass out there and go play some ball. So me and your child can watch you on TV. We'll see you when the game is over. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's just everybody, everybody handles that situation differently differently yeah just like some people like when brett farve's father died brett played in the game yeah some people would have been on bereavement and took off but brett says he knew his dad would have wanted him to play play Likewise, if my grandmother
Starting point is 00:51:25 something, perhaps, Lord forbid it didn't, my grandmother would want me to play. She's like, you coming home, I'm already gone. So what are you going to do? That's how my grandmother was. So I already know what she would have wanted
Starting point is 00:51:41 my brother and I to do because she made it abundantly clear. My grandfather passed. We didn't miss a whole bunch of days. We missed the day of the funeral. That was the only day we missed. The day of the funeral. My grandma was like, what y'all staying home for?
Starting point is 00:51:56 Y'all can't do nothing? I'm just saying. That's the way old people thought back then. Oh, yeah. But like I i said to each his own everybody handles a situation i'm not gonna say that person is right i'm not gonna say that person is wrong all i can speak to how i would have handled the situation you could speak to how you would have handled the situation and how rail would have wanted you to handle the
Starting point is 00:52:21 situation yeah i got it so i can hear that ass not cursing though. Man, if you don't get your ass out of here, man. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said, hey guys, describe a favorite childhood toy or game that brings back fond memories for you. Oh, Tonka. Tonka Trucks. We don't got no Tonka Trucks.
Starting point is 00:52:42 You remember Tonka Trucks? Yeah. Atari. Remember the game, remember Qbert? Or you didn't have Atari? We trucks? Yeah. Atari. Remember the game, remember Qbert or you didn't have Atari? We didn't have no Atari. We didn't have no video. I had a handheld football game. You remember the handheld football games? That was in
Starting point is 00:52:56 the late 70s. That was before your time. Okay, yeah. Oh, Atari 10-yard fight, Excitebike. Remember TurboGrafx-16? No. Oh, man. Oh, hey, she done brought back memories now. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:53:15 I'm trying to think. Like Big Wheel? You had a Big Wheel? Yeah, I had a Big Wheel. Right? Yeah, yeah. Big, I'm trying to say. Oh, that's a good one.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Big Wheel, what else we had? We had, you know, Simon Says. Remember Simon Says? And you speed up. We had that. We had the Viewmaster
Starting point is 00:53:45 where you put the little card in there and you could see it. Yeah, it was red and you could decide. You could decide. Yeah. I remember that. I had that.
Starting point is 00:53:53 We had that. I had that. What else did I have? I can't remember. What else was big back then? Man, we got clothes and stuff. We didn't really get a whole lot of toys. Yeah, I got toys. We didn't have no a whole lot of toys. Yeah, I got toys.
Starting point is 00:54:06 We didn't have no video games. I had an extensive He-Man collection where they had the figurines. Yeah. I had an extensive He-Man collection. But yeah, those are the ones that I can remember. I remember my aunt brought me a
Starting point is 00:54:21 piggy bank. It was a smiling face piggy bank. I had that piggy bank. And I don't know why. But Ocho, it went with me. So from 72, 82, 92. Don't tell me you broke it and took the money out. My sister.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I put it on a shelf. And my sister grabbed something. And it fell. Oh, yeah. Damn. Well, all the,
Starting point is 00:54:51 all the, uh, I mean, I asked like, I mean, it was just the fact that it was like, it was so old. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Uh, I'm, I'm very, I'm very nostalgic. Like when people give me things like I used to collect money and I had a girlfriend and she gave me coins.
Starting point is 00:55:12 She went to the bank and she gave me coins and she wrote on it. I still have them. They're in safe deposit box. I don't go look at them every day. But if somebody gives me something, I keep it. Or at least I try to. At least I try to.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Somebody, you know, a lot of times they come in, where you get this from? You start, it's gone. Because they know somebody gave it to you, it's out of there. Like, damn, I think my brother gave me that. No, he didn't. You lied.
Starting point is 00:55:44 She is nasty. Mr Mr. Sharp riddle me this please explain Red Grant being at Savannah State with you with your 10 years his senior I heard you mention this before actually I'm not 10 years his senior I was a
Starting point is 00:55:59 Red is two years under me so if I'm not mistaken I think Red got there in think Red got there in 87. Red got there in 87 or 88. How old is Red Grant? Look it up. Red ain't no Red. Red old.
Starting point is 00:56:16 He just look young because he's red. Red Grant. Red Red 2D's or the GRT he doesn't you can't google him yeah man nah Red Red's with me in Savannah State
Starting point is 00:56:42 yeah Red was with me in Savannah State. Yeah. Red was a fullback. I still can't believe Red was a fullback. He's so little. Old Red Grant. Red funny, man. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I think he was running for office in D.C. Yeah, they say Red 45. Red must have been smart. Because he was with me, yeah. Red was with me at Savannah State. Did he post a picture? Yeah. I just took a picture with Red.
Starting point is 00:57:31 As a matter of fact, here, Ash, I'm going to send it to you. Hold on. Do I got that picture? Oh, CJ sent it to me. Hold on. I think it's too late to get up now. But as a matter of fact, I just took a picture with Red. I sent it to you.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Yeah, but Red was a... I'm trying to think. Was Red a... Red was a... I think Red might be lying in his bio. Red in the damn 40s. That's it. I think Red might be lying in his bio yeah no but uh Red was good man Red was great Red was great. Red was great.
Starting point is 00:58:30 It's always good to go back. Because that was my first time seeing Red when I saw him at Cats thing. That's probably my first time seeing Red since I left Savannah State. I hadn't seen him since. Man, that's a long time. Because Red from D.C. Okay. So, and Red didn't get back.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Because I didn't get a chance to get back much. I mean mean i think i went back to a couple of homecomings right i was back in 20 in 2009 um i was back in 20 2011 and that's really the only time and then i came back in um last year when we had the uh they went to my album first take went to my album. The first take went to Savannah state. And then we went to, uh, Winston Salem, but I don't get a chance. I don't,
Starting point is 00:59:09 I don't, I don't get back. Okay. What's up? Roberta, Georgia. Kenny Walker from Roberta Crawford County. Um,
Starting point is 00:59:20 yeah, we're right back. There was, there was some days. I mean, riding the bus. Cause we rode the bus everywhere. Oh,
Starting point is 00:59:24 Joe. So we, yeah, we rode the bus. I mean, riding the bus, because we rode the bus everywhere, Ocho. The bus? Yeah, we rode the bus. We go to Tuskegee. We go to, you know, wherever we went, we rode the bus. Fort Valley, we're going to Atlanta. Man, we stopped at a convenience store. We stopped at Morrison.
Starting point is 00:59:40 You remember Morrison's? Morrison was like a... Morrison's like Eckers, right? No, Morrison is like Piccadilly. Oh, no. I don't know about that. Yeah, Morrison used to be... I think Piccadilly bought Morrison's, but they used
Starting point is 00:59:56 to be a Southern thing. Anybody in the chat from the South remember Piccadilly? I mean, Morrison's. Yeah, I know about Piccadilly. I know about Piccadilly a lot. We used to stop at Piccad's what we you know we had like a six dollar a six dollar seven dollar limit so you can get a meat you get a meat a veggie stuff like that a drink for like six dollars and you know i was the only one allowed to get i had to get dessert i said coach
Starting point is 01:00:22 i need to get dessert coach man that was the day though allowed to get, I had to get dessert. I said, coach, I need to get dessert, coach. But that was the day, though. I wouldn't trade that experience, Ocho. I wouldn't trade that for anything. And I think that's why the football, I mean, sports, being with sports and being around the guys and being on the bus ride, being on the planes. Right. Man, that's when you learn so much about your teammates. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:44 You know, talking in the room, like training camp. Because, like I said, Club Shea Shea started in training camp. We rolling dice. They playing video games. We playing cards. You know, guys, you know, smoking cigars, guys drinking beer. Hey, see, that's being read. That's being read.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Saturday. Goddamn read. That's what Mark Curry was back there Mark Curry says man how the hell you play with him yo little ass I said nah red red cause people ask me cause a lot of time man you know red red I said yeah we play ball together man he said
Starting point is 01:01:18 that are you man I'm gonna lie yeah he played he played on the team. He had real with the fullback. Derrick Stingley Jr. Pick one. Al Green, James Brown. James Brown.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Al Green? James. Okay. Let me teach his own. I like Al. James is phenomenal, but Al Green. I mean... Can't remember James. What can't remember James James started what do you think
Starting point is 01:01:47 Prince and them learned out there what do you think how them Prince be moving and Chris Brown and Usher what do you think they learned that from yeah yeah James Brown
Starting point is 01:01:55 but I love and happiness this is a man's world but it wouldn't be nothing but don't get me you know what I ain't gonna sing I don't want no copyright infringement please thank you all three winners have been
Starting point is 01:02:16 DM make sure you guys check your DM so all the winners of the three Ocho Cup mugs nah of the three Ocho Cup mugs. Nah, nah. Have been deal.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I need my mug, man. Thank you. Thank you guys for playing along. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. We should have put that to the thing do you guys believe to and ocho can play in the nfl right now at the age of 46 and 50 i mean well we we know we know i can play right now that ain't no question and anybody in the chat anybody in the chat no i can play in no i can play i can play right. Don't tell me what I can't do. I know what I can do.
Starting point is 01:03:06 I believe in me. And the chat better believe in me. If the chat don't believe in me, that lets me know y'all are the enemy. If you don't believe in me, you are the enemy. They don't believe in it, no enemy.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Oh, no. Please make sure y'all hit that like button. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. It's up there? It's up there. Love and happiness. We put it up there, so I'm going to take my time reading this. You see it?
Starting point is 01:03:37 Hey, somebody just said the NFL has passed them by. You know what? I'm going to pass your ass by too. Let me just say that in the chat. I see everything y'all see. All right? by. You know what? I'm going to pass your ass by too. I saw I see everything y'all say. All right? Yeah. The NFL has passed me by.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Don't play with me. Please make sure you hit that like button. Guys, we had 20,000 in the chat tonight. We had 22,000. I know good and well all y'all 22,000 hadn't hit that subscribe button. Help your boys out. Hook us up. We greatly, greatly
Starting point is 01:04:08 appreciate it because and go to Apple and leave comments. Are they still leaving comments, Ash? Okay. We appreciate that. Ash, read the comments. I don't read because I'm too sensitive. Please make sure you hit that like button. Please make sure you hit
Starting point is 01:04:28 the subscribe button. Thank you guys for selling out Shade by LaPortier. I really really appreciate your patience. We had it pinned in the chat, but we had to take it down because we put the 84 clothing at 84 clothing. We're only able to put one thing at a time up there. So thank you for your patience. We're going to make sure moving forward, we get all orders shipped out in a timely manner. But again,
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Starting point is 01:05:35 slash shop. That's 85 cigars.com slash shops. The Nuggets lose at home, held to 80 points. They lose 106 to 80. They get beat by 26.
Starting point is 01:05:53 New York behind Jalen Brunson's 43. They win a close game over the Pacers, 121 to 117. What's the results of the chat? 45% says yes. 55% says no. Those 45%, y'all are delusional. You know what? That 45%,
Starting point is 01:06:15 I love y'all. I love y'all. And you are the reason why I'm still going today. Yeah. Ocho don't run no 4. Ocho didn't run a 4.5 at 22.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Ocho ain't running no 4.5 at no 46. I could cry the fact that y'all believe in me still. And you can see my eyes tearing up. It means a lot. So, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite unk, Shannon Sharp.
Starting point is 01:06:52 He's your favorite number 85, rock runner extraordinaire, Bengals Ring of Fame honoree, Liberty City's own, pro bowler, all pro, all he call it, Mr. Dave Cotting. From the bottom, Chad Ocho Cinco Ros, Rosado, Johnson.
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