Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Tony Baker joins the show, LeBron James on Pat McAfee and the nose gesture has been banned by the NFL!

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson welcome Tony Baker to nightcap to talk about his comedy career! They also talk about LeBron James on Pat McAfee and discuss his beef with Stephen A Smith & much more!!06:14 - Tony Baker joins the show39:25 - LeBron James on Pat McAfee con’t55:45 - Nose gesture now finable in NFL1:00:10 - Q&Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Got his start on social media. And here he is blowing up. Tony Baker. Great comedian. Voiceover. Tony, what's going on, bro? What's up, y'all? Can y'all hear me and see me?

Yeah, I can see you. I can see you. Thanks for having me, y'all. Hey, boy, you me and see me? Yeah, I can see you. I can see you. Thanks for having me, yo. I look like you got a flip phone, but it's okay. The light's too bright? I got the space shovel. I got the beam me up, the helium joints. You know what I'm saying?

I can dim it if you need me. Nah, you good. You good. You good, bro. How's everything? Everything good, though? I ain't got no complaints, man. golden i'm back on tour so you know yeah getting getting my pockets replenished just bought a house there you go hey listen hey every every morning ask ask the man upstairs man to make sure that cup continue to run it over you're gonna be all right come on man i bought my first house so i need every dollar oh did you like yeah man I bought my first house, so I need every dollar. Oh, did you?

Yeah, man. I just bought my first house in Southern California, so you know they're going to charge you $8 million for one and a half bedroom, zero bath. Congratulations. Congratulations. Thanks, Jeff.

Tony, did you always want to be a comedian? Were you a class clown? Were you funny always? When did you decide to say, you know what, I'm want to be a comedian? Were you a class clown? Were you funny always? When did you decide to say, you know what, I'm going to be a stand-up? You know what, man? I was always funny and didn't realize it because I'm the youngest of three boys. So I'm trying to crack jokes at the house, but my brothers would never laugh. They gave me nothing, man.

So I would go to school thinking I wasn't funny. So I'm making the kids laugh, but it didn't even register because I was like, man, I ain't funny at home, though. And then, you know, when we young and we teens and we in the girls,

you don't want to be funny. You trying to be all smooth and cool. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You got the Jodeci boots on. You just like, yeah, girl. They'd be like, you funny. I'd be like, nah, nah. I ain't trying to be funny. You know what I'm saying? You got the Jodeci boots on. You just like, yeah, girl. They'd be like, you funny.

I'd be like, no, no. I ain't trying to be funny. You know what I'm saying? And so I never really paid attention to my funny until I got to college. And then that's when it clicked. Right. But you know women like guys that are funny. One of the things that they say are sense of humor.

Yeah. I found that out later. I guys that are funny. One of the things that they say, a sense of humor. Yeah. I found that out later. Laughing right about the straws. I found that out later. Let me ask you this. When did you get into the voiceover? Because that's kind of how I stumbled upon you. You were doing voiceover, Cash, Dawg.

I forget. What's the... Scotty. Scotty. Curtis and Scotty, man. curtis and scotty how did you get into the voiceover you know what it was uh we always had pets growing up so you know i never lived without a animal in the house somewhere until i went to college and so i was always wondering what they was thinking about just looking at cats and dogs and like what y'all thinking about?

And so I did this. I did two videos. It was one of this goat in Brazil just harassing the hell out of everybody, man. Just just cramming people on the motorcycle. Oh, Cramilton. Cramilton, man. He just knocked this lady over. He had grocery bags and this dude tried to save him. So that was the very first one I did. And then I did this lady over. He had grocery bags, and this dude tried to save him. So that was the very first one I did. And then I did this second one. This fracoon was eating out of a cat food dish,

and the cats was surrounding him, looking at him like he crazy, like, yo, man, who's the man right here? And he's looking at them. And then he dip off, and they come back for one last scoop, and then he run off. That's the one that went viral and stuff. I was like, let me just do these for real and i just kept doing them ever since right that's live hey you you had a comedy special scaredy cat yeah can

you walk us through the creative process and the prep you had behind the special and how everything came about okay so uh i started doing stand-up in 2008. So really, my voice, though, was just a vehicle to get you to come see me live. So I've been doing stand-up since then. So, you know, I'm just doing, when I started doing stand-up, I'm doing everything I can get my hands on. Every show, every competition, every bringer show, I'm just doing whatever. And so I'm just accumulating all this material i'm getting up every night though i'm like doing multiple stages a night and so by the time i saw scaredy cat and i met these cats and i still worked with brennan and tony at a transit pictures

and he was like yo let us shoot you a special and i was like all right you know and so they put it together because they do dynamite work and so we went to uh new mexico state that's where uh that's why i went to college we shot the special there uh you know low budget guerrilla style independent just shot them love and then uh so that's like years worth of material that we just culminated right there started who are you who is your inspiration when you grow up when you like you're like okay take a little bit of this take a little bit of that who are you who are some of your inspirations in the comedic space well when i was growing up uh i'm 47 so know, Delirious was the first comedy special that just blew my head off. Hey, what you know about that? Man, come on, man.

Oh, Delirious. Man, anybody that knows that was around at that time, that special just blew everybody's head off. And so that's when I first took in a comedy special for real. And then as time went on, you know, I was called Raw,

but then I started watching like comedy and I was like Damon Wayans, Sinbad and Jerry Steinfeld are my three influences with a sprinkler Bernie Mac so those are like those are my influences right there and so I feel like I'm a combination of those

three that I mentioned and because I feel my mom don't like a lot of customs so we we can watch Thin Bad together, you know? Right. And then that's what I was about to ask you. Cause I don't hear a lot of, I don't hear a lot of cursing in your comedy. Yeah.

I try to keep it PG 13 for the most part. Like I don't want to, I don't want to get too clean cause I don't want to get stuck in that box. But, um, you know, so I try to keep it PG 13 so my mom won't cringe up. So, um, but yeah, so I try to keep it PG-13 so my mom won't cringe up. So, but yeah, Sinbad, Damon Wayans, the way he would just like storytell and do the character act outs. And then the way Seinfeld just details every like little basic human experience

that we have, talking about socks for like 15 minutes, talking about toothpaste, talking about cereal. I could do that type of stuff too. So those are my three influences right there. That's dope. I don't think people understand how difficult, how difficult standup comedy is. I think they think people are funny. You just stand on stage in front of a crowd and it just works.

Not understanding that the material has to hit. You have to engage with the crowd. You have to have stage presence. There's so many factors and variables that go in for a comedian to be able to stand up in front of people. Yeah. Have said material. Remember said material. And the delivery to be on point.

Yes. So my question is, how different is your approach when it comes to doing stand-up versus the content you put on social media? Or do you just approach both the same way? Well, the way I write is, like, I think of a premise. Like, I'll be like, I'll be at the grocery store tonight. I'll be like, man, look at this lady right here. And then next time I get on stage, I'll be like, man, I was in Whole Foods and seen this lady right here. And so I write it in real time like that. I keep the premise in team is late right here and so i i write it in

real time like that i keep the premise in mind all right i'm gonna say this and then then i start i keep doing it the more i go up and then i edit add in stuff okay okay do it like that and so uh because like the way my mind works i'll forget it if i don't if i don't like write it down or do it right and so uh that's my approach to like stand up my voiceovers and like the content it'd be in the moment man like when people people used to send me before i kind of stopped doing voiceovers because instagram keep pulling them off my page and i want to get my page deleted but people would send me videos all day long they still do and so they'd be like hey man hey so man this and so i'll look at the video maybe once twice and then i'll just think of the whole scenario like like the i got a voiceover where it's these two cats there's one outside the

window and one is yeah yeah hey curtis yeah i'll let you right quick yeah because the one outside the window and one inside. Yeah. Hey, Curtis. Yeah. Let me holler at you right quick. Because the one outside look like he been about that life. He in the streets. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He want Curtis to come outside so they can give him the excrety pap.

Really? Yeah. And so when I'm looking at that, I'm like, oh, I got the conversation right here. It's going to be like, hey, Curtis, man, why don't you step outside? Let me holler at you real quick. And then he disappeared for a little bit. He's like, oh, Curtis. Remember, he failed.

Oh, I'm hurt. I'm in, man. I failed. Then you come back. Why you ain't hear me, Curtis? So he just told me that quick. You freaking me out. You freaking me out, Scotty.

You freaking me out. Yeah, out scotty you freaking me out yeah man and so and i like production value too so like if i do a voiceover of a giraffe running from a lion i'll be outside running when i record it that way so you get the effect you like it like it's really like that's what's really happening yeah like you can hear me running outside and be like oh man it's not like he's really running. So, some people appreciate those little nuances. Right. Yeah, that's dope.

That's dope. Tony, give me your Mount Rushmore comedians. Okay. I'm going to give you... Okay, I'm going to give you two of the ones I just named. I'm going to give you

Stembad. Okay. This is my personal. I can give you a comedy Mount Rushmore or I can give you my personal. Hey, I want yours. Who are your Mount Rushmore comedians? Okay. Tony Baker's Mount Rushmore.

Gotcha. Damon Wayne. I feel like his HBO specials are underrated. We know Damon is the legend, but I feel like his comedy specials don't get talked about enough, man. It's crazy. So I'm going to give you Damon Wayans.

I'm going to give you Sinbad as well. I feel like Sinbad don't get talked about enough to be that funny and that clean and that consistent. It's crazy. And his crowd work is bananas. So I got them two on there. I'm going to give you dang man because I want to throw Eddie on there

but he only got two specials but they was monumental though Eddie Griffin? Eddie Murphy he only got two of those I'm going to be like I'm going to slide him off I'm going to slide him off. I'm going to put him

on the legendary Mount Rushmore, but since he only got two, I'm going to slide him off. And then I want to put George Carlin on there because... That's my boy. George Carlin, man. I can listen to him all day and the way he breaks up down is just...

Hey, I have all his specials. Oh, man. All of them. That dude was crazy, man. Listen, there are very few comedians that you go and see where you have to think. Yeah. He makes you think. He forces you to think.

Yeah. And then not only that, not only thinking, you're going to walk away having learned some stuff. It's just like, yo. Yes. He's very socially conscious. Yes. He's very socially conscious. He's going to talk about things in real life that you're dealing with.

And you think like, damn, he put that in perspective. You know who I think one of the greatest storytellers, especially of this generation? Who that? Chappelle. Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. Man, that joker. And he can take the way he can diffuse our audience and talk about things that you shouldn't be talking about.

Yeah. And before you know it, his SNL, when he did SNL a couple years ago, it might have been the greatest monologue in Saturday Night Live history. Ocho, if you haven't seen it, go back and look at his monologue. You know what's dope about Smithale? The way his comedy

transformed. If you go back and look at Killing Them Softly or his early specials, there was more rapid fires, more jokes, but then he developed into like this monumental storyteller where you just like listening. He just like, man, this dude. Yes. Bringing it all the way down to where the jokes sneak up on you now.

It's like, yes. It's like, I don't know. I don't know if success made it more comfortable in his approach to where he could just be like, y'all gonna rock with me anyways. Let me just sit down, smoke this cigarette. And take my time. Yeah, you don't understand, but his transition is just crazy. Patrice O'Neal is another dude that I feel like.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Classic. If he didn't pass away, oh, man. No telling where he would have went. What about Pryor? What do you think about Pryor? You know what I feel about Pryor? What do you think about Pryor? You know what I feel about Pryor? I would put him on the Mount Rushmore of the best comedians that ever exists

because when you look at deaf comedy, Dan, it was 27, 35 Richard Pryors on that thing. He birthed so many comedians that if you were young and didn't catch Richard Pryor and his Pryor, you would go back and look at a Richard Pryor special and be like, yo, this reminds me of Def Jam. That's because they were born from him. So it's like, you know, his style of comedy is just essential to the whole game because it changed everything. So I would put him right on the Mount Rushmore of the best comedians to ever do it. I think he's the most important comedian

that ever exists. But you see a lot of these stand-up, and he was probably one of the first that did stand-up and transitioned to movies. Yeah. And then you got Gene Wilder, and you got Murphy, and you got you got a Kevin Hart. You got a lot of these rock rock. You get a lot of these guys that started off as stand up.

And it seemed like the if that a natural transition to go from stand up to go into the big screen. I feel like a lot of times because because what happened was with Richard and Eddie, you had that blueprint of like, all right, I'm going to do stand-up and then I'm going to do movies like Richard Pryor,

Robin Williams, Eddie Murphy, because that's what happened to me. Like, I always wanted to act. And so I was like, yo, let me try stand-up as a way to get exposure.

But then what happened to me was I fell in love with stand-up as soon as I did it. So now, when I get an acting role, I'd be like, cool, cool. But I don't be like excited, like developing like a dope set. Because, you know, when you act, so much other stuff is out of your control. But with stand-up, I control everything.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, if I'm in a movie, I'm at the mercy of the cast and director. Then once I get past that, you know, I got to work with the director, the writers, the producers, they might edit my thing out.

So you never know. And then before standup is I'm, I'm in more control of everything. Like it's me. So as far as the transitions go, that was the move. It was like, it turned into the move.

It was just like, all right, man, this stand-up comedian is so popular and so large. Let's throw him in a movie or two, man, because he's funny and he might stand out.

And then the next thing you know, you just got this wave of cats that like started on stage. And then we're going to get them in movies and stuff like that. Now, mind you, everything ain't going to click. Like when they do get movies,

they be tanking and you only get a few tanks before they do. All right, all right, everything ain't going to click. Like, when they do get movies, they be tanking, and you only get a few tanks. All right, man, look out. But if you look at Bernie Mac, Bernie Mac is the only guy that you watch his mannerisms in the movie. That's just his mannerisms on stage. The way he did Blue, Blue, don't make me raise up. It's going to be trouble.

You know what I'm saying? If you watch him at a house party. You watch him on Friday. His mannerisms on the screen is his mannerisms on stage. He was one of the few guys that when you watch him, you're like, he doing stand-up. He acting. Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. He was able to do that transition on his times. You know, we had already seen him. If his times like you know we had already seen him if he was in the know you already seen him at like house party and like these movies before the real comedians yeah then by the time real comedians came out and a lot of people saw him do a stand-up for the first time they just like oh my god that's why he got his tv show and he got like higher profile gigs like opens's Eleven and stuff like that. It was like, because every time he was there before, he was still in scenes all the time.

Everything he was there, he was still in the show every time. I know I knew you. I know I knew you. They used to call you Joe. They used to call you Joe. You know what I'm talking about. Here, it's all alright. House Party 3, man, I'm talking about. Yeah. He and his daughter, right?

House Party 3, man. I'm telling you, every time he showed up, for him to be able to stand out in life. That movie had a dope ensemble. Oh, yeah. Oh, J.K. Layne, J.K. Layne, J.K. Layne. J.K. Layne, J.K. Layne. Hey. J.K. Layne.

And you go back and look at Harlem Nights. When they had the smorgasbord. Oh, yeah. You had the OGs, you had Red Fox, you had Richard, you had Eddie, you had Ronaldo Ray. I mean, you had them all. And the same thing is life. I don't know if we'll ever see another cast like what we had in life. Not like that.

It was great. Hey, you know, when you talk about cast, right, and movies that are classics based on the people that were casted, life, life of Harlem

Night could be on, it don't matter where you watch it or where you catch it on TV, you won't stop and watch it. And there's one more

movie. You stop and watch it. Absolutely. There's one more movie where it was casted perfectly and they would never be able to replicate it. They tried, but there was nothing close to it, and that was Coming to America.

Coming to America. I knew you was going to say that, man. Yeah. Coming to America. Man, Coming to America is like one of the best comedies ever made. Top of the body. Top of the body. You can't replicate it.

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get Della Reese, and you get that scene with Red Fox and you get Pryor and you get Murphy and you get Arsenio and you get that cast. I think, what's the guy you said passed? Robin Harris. Yeah. You get all of those guys. That's the cream of the crop. Yeah, man. I don't know.

We'll never get another. We'll never get. I hate to say never because never is always. But I don't know if we're going to ever get a cast like that again, Tony. We could. We could. Like, once we get, like, you know, once we get a Dave Chappelle together, Kevin Hart together, like the Giants of now,

if we can get them in the right project. That's the thing, though. Right, right. Now we're oversaturated with movies and TV shows and stuff like that. So it's harder for us to get that classic because we're so oversaturated. When Harlem Nights came out, that was a movement, man. I remember going to, I remember I was in Chicago. It was Evergreen Plaza opening weekend.

That movie theater was packed. And what I'm talking about, when them jokes, when them jokes was hidden, you couldn't even hear what they said after the joke because that theater was so loud. You had to go back and watch it because you missed the jokes because people were still laughing and they was going on. That's how it was with life Yeah, I ended up having to buy the DVD because I couldn't hear anything because everybody laughing in the theater I'm like damn

You go back and listen to it. You realize what you actually missed like Oh Joe said though Are some things like they're classics even Friday when you go back and look at the cast that was in Friday Yeah, do OG Friday. The OG Friday? Yeah, for real. And it's hard making... I wish... Comedy sequels are the toughest sequels to make, man. Like an action sequel, all you gotta do

is ramp up the action and you good to go. But like with comedy sequels, they be trying to relive the magic and then they just be feeling forced now. Once I feel like you trying to relive the magic and then they just be feeling forced now. Once I feel like you trying to make me laugh I'll be losing the will to do it. I'll be like nah

you kind of forced me now. And the funny thing about it you can tell you can tell when they trying to make you laugh when someone is authentic and organically funny they're not even trying. The funniest people are not even trying it just is there's a certain if factor that you're just born with right you can't teach it you can't coach it you know it just either you got it or you don't because friday

but bank you know the problem is is that when the first one does so well and it makes so much money you got to bring it back just cause for no other reason you got to bring it back when you see these like man they man that's a good old movie movie did five half a billion a movie does a billion you get a you get a two or three and maybe a damn four it's like the faster the furious we done got 10 we on the 10 now yeah we. We in outer space. Once Ludacris and Tyrese was sitting in the vehicle, outer space, I was like, you know what? Y'all got it. Y'all got it.

They sitting in the car in outer space, though. They racing space. They racing space shuttles. So, I mean, where we going with that? Man. Let me ask you this. Yes. What's your favorite city to tour in? Where do you like to go?

Give me your top five cities that you like to go perform. Top five, man. I love the fact that you always do top five because I love doing top five anything. You can ask me a top five anything. I'm going to give it to you. So this is in any order. This is out of order. So I'm going off energy.

New York. I'm going to go with, this is a ringer right here. I don't know how many comedians going to say this, but Louisville, Kentucky. Damn.

That's a good one. Kentucky got fire energy. Do it. Every time I'm going there. I'm going to throw in. I'm going to give you. Who got that good energy? I really like performing in Chicago.

I know I could be biased because I'm from there, but Chicago energy be fire. I'm going to go with. Let's see, there's three right there. Let me throw that Baltimore in there, man. Baltimore. Okay, yeah, yeah. Okay. Baltimore good.

Can I cuss on here? Yeah. Baltimore good-ass time, though. And, man, I'm going to round it out with, shoot, Philly is dope. I might round it out with D.C., man. D.C. D.C. got them heavyweights now. They got Quake.

They got Chappelle. They got Wanda Sykes. Yes. Who else? Oh, Darnell Rollins. Yeah. Dominique. Yeah, D.C. got someanda Sykes. Yes. Who else? Oh, Donnell Rollins. Yeah, Dominique. Yeah, DC got some fire comedians.

Chico from DC, ain't it? Chico Bean? Yeah, I think he's from DC, too. I think he is. Yeah, man. I'm rocked with DC heavy, just as the city as a whole, but those shows be fun out there. Hey, when you guys started heavy, have you ever gotten booed? I got booed one time.

I was at a casino. This was a casino in Southern California. And it was a casino. The land factory used to book. And Tiffany Haddish was the host. So we out there. I make the drive out there. Tiffany hosting, doing her thing.

I get up there. I'm on stage for probably about 15 minutes. And one dude was like, boo! I was like, dog, man. Boo! So it was one boo. I didn't get the community boo, but it was one strong boo that he sat in. And so that's my only

actual boo, though. That's a boo, though. Hey, Frank, how you get booed? Dude playing the slot and booing you from my player this July. Boo! Boo, y'all. It was a strong boo too. I felt like he had

his spirit off when he did it, man. I felt like his chest was out. I was like, man, you gonna boo me? Then he was like, boo! He doubled down. I know you're a sports fan. Let me ask you this. Who you go? Basketball go.

MJ, LeBron, Kobe. Where you want to go? Who you go? You know, I'm from Chicago. So you already know this door. MJ? I got to give it to MJ, MJ man because he just changed everything he did

he changed the whole he shifted the whole thing so I'm gonna go with MJ not only for that not only because he played for the Bulls but the stuff they was doing was just monumental and I feel like you know the what if is like what if he never went to play baseball

and you know what I'm saying the what if on that we could have got seven right you know maybe not eight we could have got seven because he used to rock his cold but um I'm gonna go MJ I feel like LeBron is one of the best to ever do it I don't like how people hate on him all the time and I feel like I feel like LeBron is the best player with the cleanest image of all time. Yeah. Because when you think about LeBron's image to be that great, it ain't been no scandals, man. He a family man.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He stayed out of trouble. He ain't got no DUIs. He ain't no Gabby. He don't have nothing. He didn't have to go to court. You know what I'm saying? With no charges. I'm like, yo, man. Yeah. He stayed out of trouble. He ain't got no DUIs. He ain't no guy. Yeah, yeah. He don't have nothing. He had to go to court. You know what I'm saying?

With no charges. I'm like, yo, man. Yeah. This is a good dude right here, man. Because he could have been a mess. He ain't got no Elf in college. Man. He ain't got no Elf in college.

He ain't got no college. He could have been a mess in the game. But he was like, nah, man. My family, me, and I'm going to be doing stuff on the side. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to be good with my money. I'm going to take care of my body, man. He is like the blueprint I feel like the youth

should follow in terms of how to manage being an athlete and whatever else you want to be at a high level and still keep your head on straight. And I feel like what Kobe is, Kobe is the Terminator. Like, you know, he out there, Jordan Clawson, just like,

I'm going to fast and my job is to kill. He John Wick on the court. He like, yo, man. Yo, y'all kill my puppy before the game. And then he going to go in there and make sure the job's not done. So, yeah. Babe, we got a fight coming up next year it's going to be in

San Francisco James Harrison in an MMA fight taking on Ocho who you got what you really doing this Ocho man I'm finna beat the brakes off him man I feel like Ocho been waiting to fight somebody for a long

time man he. He has. He has. Listen, Tony, I just want to show my skill set, man. I want to show my skills. I want to show all the work I've been doing behind the scenes. Everybody sees me as a jokester. They see the entertainment. They see the laughs and, you know, the hee-hee, ha-ha-ha.

But there's another side that nobody gets to see. Okay. And I'm waiting to preview that, you know, on whatever night we do have this bout. And I need people of smaller size and stature to understand you don't have to be scared. Yeah. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. And at times, if you stand up to those that you think are intimidating, you will see that. Hey, anybody can get knocked out, man. Anybody can get it. You know what I'm saying? Thank you will see that. Yeah. Hey, anybody can get knocked out,

man. Anybody can get it. You know what I'm saying? Thank you. Thank you. What's your record off the court, out the ring?

What's your record? Right now, in the ring, 1-0. On the street, 5-2. Okay. I respect that. Yeah, I lost twice. I ain't gonna say anything. I. Okay. I respect that.

Yeah, I lost twice. I ain't going to say anything. I lost twice. I respect it. Now, let me ask you this. Did you lose the first two and then come back with the five straight?

Or was the two losses in the middle in the seven? Yeah, I lost the first one. And I went on like a winning streak. Yeah. I got caught on

I got caught on the back end on the back end? so your last street fight was an L? yeah oh man you had to go to sleep on that L looking at the ceiling fan

yeah it's all good it's all good I'm going to redeem myself I'm going to redeem myself though you going to take it out on Devo? yeah you can't listen you can't win them all. I don't care who you are.

Yeah, that's real. Hey, if you fight enough, you ain't going to get you. Now, eventually, they'll get you. They'll get you. Hey, they're going to get you. Yo, you know. That's why I quit while I was ahead. I'm like 3-0.

I'm good. Are you 3-0 on this thing? I'm 3-0. Hey, I'm 3-0. Hey, I'm done. I don't got too old to fight now that's how you tap out

you're like you know what yeah yeah yeah I ain't had a fight since I was 25 so but this is what I tell people hey Bank this is what I tell people

I say I don't even know if I can fight anymore but you probably don't want to find out hell no man that's a long way to happen you be like

but if you do lose you can be like it was Shannon though that's a long way to happen. You'd be like, but if you do lose to Chattanooga, you'd be like, it was Chattanooga. That's a good one. That's funny. We appreciate it, man. Best of luck, man.

Congratulations on all your success. Hey, anytime. I'm going to catch you. I'm going to catch you at one of these shows. Hopefully we're somewhere in the same area and I can get out

to one of your shows, man, because I really love what you're doing, man. And so congratulations. Thanks for joining us. And we're going to check you out down the road. All right, man. I appreciate y'all, man of your shows, man, because I really love what you're doing, man. And so congratulations. Thanks for joining us. And we're going to check you out down the road. All right, man. I appreciate y'all, man.

Thank you, man. Thanks for the shout out. Thank you, bro. It's been a long time ago too, bro. Yes, sir. Hey, plug your podcast. You want to plug your pod? Oh, absolutely.

So I got two podcasts. I got two podcasts. I got a solo joint called Verbal Cardio. You can catch that wherever you get your podcast or Tony Baker Comedy on YouTube. And I got my other podcast, the Ball Brothers podcast that I do with my bro Kev on stage.

We do that together. So, we drop those every Tuesday and that's everywhere you get your podcast from as well. Y'all should have Kev on here, man. He was killing on here too, man. Bet we gonna look to do that. All right, y'all. Appreciate it, bro right for sure no i don't know how to get off of here though

leave the chat okay all right i'm trying yeah hey that was that was that was dope that. I mean, the guests that we had, TJ and Bake, they were unbelievable. But back to this LeBron and Pat McAfee. Like you said, Ocho, we're not used to seeing LeBron James sit down for an extended period of time. Normally, when he's in the finals or he's in the playoff, he would sit down. That's like 10 minutes. And it's always basketball related too, huh? It's always basketball related.

He's literally talking about other stuff going on in life. He's being vulnerable, letting people in, something he's never, never, ever done before. Players like that of his magnitude, of his status, that allows the world and the public to see what he wants you to, to actually sit down for a change, I guarantee you, if they were to do the numbers

on how many people watched that Pat Bakery show, I bet it's astronomical. Mm-hmm. Crazy. Yeah. Because it's something he's never done. Right. And, you know,

and to see, like you said, to see him, but that just lets you know that he he for me, looking at him, considering that he had ever, ever done anything like this before. The thing about how many people have criticized him. Yeah. And he's never, ever done it before. So that lets you know he had gotten to a place that he's like, I've had it up to here. Yeah. And I don't know if he knew. I don't think he knew Stephen A was going to come to the game. But he had it in his mind if he ever saw Stephen A, he was going to step to him.

But he got Stephen A number. He got a text to call him. If there was an issue, you got a text to call him. They communicate with each other. Obviously, they have some sort of relationship. No, they don't. You don't think so? No.

Okay. Well, my bad. No. But like you said, I mean, what do you mean? No, they don't now as opposed to before. I don't think they've ever had an relationship where they pick up the phone and they talk to each other like that.

Oh, I don't think they've ever had that type of relationship. Do I think they've been cordial to each other? Uh, I remember, I think I saw something on, uh, an old clip,

maybe with YouTube where Stephen, they actually sat down and he interviewed LeBron. But I don't think they're in a situation where they, like, pick up the phone, they have each other, they can call each other like that. I don't know if LeBron is maybe teammates. And it could. I could be wrong. I could be wrong.

I could be totally wrong. But I don't know if LeBron has his number or he has LeBron's number. LeBron is, you know, very, very, very. LeBron rocked with who he rocked with. And I think once you get to this level, if you haven't developed a friend by now, LeBron James ain't letting you in his circle. Right. It's really that simple. So he got his friends.

You know, Rich is his agent. Maverick is his chief of staff. Mav is one of his business partners. I'm trying to think who else he runs. Chris Paul. He's very close to Chris Paul. I think he's the grandfather to run a CP3 that I think advice burns the same thing with CP. But other than that, I don't think LeBron has a whole lot of what we call.

I look at those guys like I look at Bucket and Burns. Right. He ain't got a whole lot of Bucket and Burns in his life. You ain't got a whole lot of, you know, TJ, your boy. You rock with TJ or T.O. You ain't got a whole lot of them. Yeah, nah. And I look at LeBron, and i think lebron is kind of like

that but uh hopefully hopefully hopefully hopefully everybody's made their point yeah lebron was upset what he said steven they said what i was trying to say sometimes things get lost in translation it is what it is but at the end of the day i think we've got a we've got a lot of juice i think both have kind of squeezed that orange ojo yeah and got a lot of juice out of and then lebron took a uh amy wendy brian winhorse said this guy says he's my best effing friend. These guys are just weird. I don't know if Wendy's ever said it. I think Wendy went to the same school he went to, Ocho.

I don't think Wendy. I've never heard. I could be wrong. Guys, hell, I was undisputed for seven years. I didn't hear everything Wendy said. As a matter of fact, I didn't watch anything on anywhere. All I watched was the games that were on ESPN. I don't watch any other debate shows. I don't watch anything on anywhere. All I watched was the games that were on ESPN. I don't watch any other debate shows.

I don't watch any other shows that do what I do when I'm going to be talking about something because I don't want what they say to creep in what I'm going to say. So I don't watch it. So Wendy, Chad, if he said that he was LeBron's best friend, I apologize. But I don't recall. And if I misspeak, I apologize to you guys. But I don't believe Wendy has said that he's LeBron's best friend. I think because he's covered LeBron for so long,

and I think they went to the same school, St. Vincent, St. Mary. He says, I think he said, I might probably know him better than anyone else. But I don't get why, I mean, he would say that about Wendy. Man, you never know. I think, like I said, LeBron is probably, LeBron is fed up. He's on,

I'm not saying he's on the way out the door, but he's on the tail end of everything. And now he's opening up a little bit more, doing things out of character that he normally wouldn't do, which is giving the people what they want. Letting us in, You know, giving us a glimpse of what's inside the world and mind of LeBron

King James. And I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I hope he does more of it. I hope other athletes do more of it. You know what? I wish LeBron would like Jeff T. Have you ever sat and listened to Jeff T tell stories? Yeah. Do more of it. You know what? I wish LeBron would like Jeff Teague. Have you ever sat and listened to Jeff Teague tell stories?

Yeah. LeBron, it would be an honor for him to take a page out of Jeff Teague's book and be that bone open and open and just give it to stories. I would love that. Yeah. LeBron talked about his relationship with mj while he still has a missed respect for jordan the pair don't talk much these days i think that would change when he retires from nba saying jordan intense competitive spirit is why the two don't talk much now we all know mj even if you don't know him personally he's one of the most ruthless competitors there is and until i'm done and he doesn't have to look at me, run up and down that court wearing

the 23, every time my name is mentioned, it's mentioned with his, he's like, I don't want to F and talk to you. Do you agree? I mean, that's dope. That's dope. Listen, that's the competitor, the competitor nature in MJ. I think, uh, as understandable, especially when it comes to him. I think he's not closed

off, but MJ and Kobe are alike in a sense. MJ and Kobe are alike in a sense. I think their relationship will be much better and a lot closer once LeBron is done playing. They go play golf together, go play golf together, smoke cigars,

have a little wine, whatever it is that they do. But right now, while LeBron is actively playing, they go play golf together go play golf together smoke cigars you know have a little have a little wine whatever it is that they do but right now while LeBron is actively playing I don't think him and MJ just outside of

playing the game of basketball and being successful businessmen there's not much for them to talk about right now the only friend I know Jordan got is Oak I mean Oak is his guy

now I've been around Jordan a little bit and he is ultra ultra competitive first thing I bet I mean Oak is his guy now I've been around Jordan a little bit and he is ultra ultra competitive first thing I bet I mean I want hey

you want to play cards no I don't want to play cards because you know Jordan games you got to come down with at least a hundred

a hundred a hundred grand two hundred grand in cash oh yeah he don't play he do not play no I say bro

you're not going to have me you're not finna have me living on the streets. I love my house. It ain't short. But I ain't trying to keep up with you. No. No, I don't play no $5,000, no $50,000 a hand. Hell no. No, bro.

Bro, guess what? As long as they make shoes with that logo, you got money coming in. I ain't in the NFL no more. I ain't got no more money coming in. You know, I was 35 then. I can draw my pension at 62. So I got another five years before I can get that on show before I take a penalty.

Hell, no, I ain't gambling with you. As a matter of fact, I'm mad you asked me that. You know damn well I ain't got no money. No, I'm going to let you in, I'm going to let you in. I'm going to let you in. Because I think they play guts. It's kind of like Boo Ray. You ever play Boo Ray?

No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. Or in between. But no, hell no. He also, LeBron talked about Giannis on P-Mac. You tried to tell me Giannis wouldn't be able to play in the NBA games in the 70s. Giannis would have had 250 points in a game in the 70s.

But let me ask you. See, you're transporting Giannis today back then. Right. Do y'all really know what they did? Did y'all see those fights? How many people got to go down the lane? See, the stuff that they called foul now, that wasn't no foul. There was nobody getting suspended for slapping the ish out of somebody.

There was no, I mean, there was no, I mean, what did Carl Malone put 44 stitches in Isaiah's head? You still think you want to come down the lane? Do y'all remember the finals in 84? When Larry Burt, who was that? Kevin McHale snatched Kurt Ramsey inside the sky? It wasn't a playground, it wasn't nothing. If nobody was suspended,

you can't take the modern play because Ocho, you're talking about technology, and you talk about the modernization. Yes, if you transform Giannis today and put him back then, look at that. Yeah. What player couldn't?

What player, if I take Ocho, if I take you today, you know what you know in the technology that you've been able to develop and put you back in the 70s. Man, Ocho will kill it. Yes. Yeah. Modernization. That's unfair.

Yeah, I think from LeBron... It's just like it's unfair. One more thing, Ocho, just like it's unfair to say, oh, man, the Jordan played today, he averaged 50. How about this? Let's leave everybody in the era in which they played.

Giannis plays in the 2010s and 2020s. LeBron has been in the 2000s, the 2010s, and now the 2020s. Let's leave everybody in that because it's unfair. It's unfair. Look, I get it. It's a conversation, but come on. Because we're not being fair to the guys that played in that era. That was great.

Right. Because it's almost like if you talk about these guys like you're trying to minimize them, and I get mad at the old guys for trying to minimize the current players. Guys, you were great. Nobody's trying to rob you of that. You were great.'s trying to rob you of that you were great these guys are great the guys in the 60s that were great the guys in the 70s were great guys in the 80s right but it's unfair Ocho yeah I mean I mean listen I understand what LeBron was saying obviously he is

exaggerated a little bit. But if you look at the players from back then, I know just being honest, from a technical standpoint, from a physical standpoint, I know what they did in between the lane and being physical and slapping and punching and all that. But you're thinking about Giannis and Giannis today. Oh, my goodness. It's called technology, Ocho.

You got an opportunity to work on things. Guys didn't have modern medicine. They didn't have technology. Think about when you ruptured Achilles. You were done. You tore a knee. You were done. You had that big-ass bulky knee brace, that big dunjoy on.

It's different now. We got modern medicine. We know how to eat. We know how to train. We have personal trainers and physio. Those guys in the 60s and 70s and 80s didn't have the money to have all of this stuff. Right. LeBron, when you're making $50 million in basketball and another $75, $80 million off the court, you could have a chef that prepares every meal to your specifications. You can have a physio. You can have a Mike Macias as LeBron,

as, excuse me, as Jordan had Tim Grover, Tim and I, Tim and I, we still, we text a lot now, but it's different.

It's not fair that you try to compare this era to that era or that era to this era. You're right. You're right. Oh boy. Damian Lillard was diagnosed with blood clots in his right calf. He's the third player this year to have blood clot issues. In 2022,

the playoffs, no Chris Middleton. In 2023, Giannis plays two out of five games. In 2024, Dame and Giannis both were injured. Dame is out indefinitely. Should the Bucs be thankful that Giannis had all-time finals run in 2022? I mean, 2021. Because it seems like ever since then, at some point in time,

a key player has been injured. Chris Middleton was injured. Then there was a couple of years that Giannis was injured, and then you had Giannis and Dame both injured, and now Dame is injured. And the Bucs are not going anywhere with just Giannis. First of all, he's not going to be at the Cavs without him, and he's not going to be able to beat the Celtics.

Damn, he wasn't going to probably be able to beat the Celtics with Dame. With Dame. Let alone with him. I'm not so sure they can beat the Knics with Dame. With Dame. Let alone with it. Without him, I'm not so sure they can beat the Knicks without Dame. The days of one guy dominating a series and winning the whole,

that's over. You forget all about that. Yeah. I mean, it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. Obviously, it's very,

very serious. When Miyama has something similar to this, if I'm not mistaken, I don't know if the diagnosis is exactly the same, but obviously, it's a blood clot.

I'm glad they were able to catch it it sucks it sucks for the Bucks it sucks for the organization and it most definitely sucks for Damian Lillard and his family I'm hoping a speedy recovery for him especially something like this is very very serious especially when it comes

to the blood thinners you'll probably be on blood thinners the rest of your life man that sucks man I hope when it comes to the blood. Oh, yeah, you'll blood thin us. And you probably go, you'll be on blood thin the rest of his life. Man. Yeah, that sucks, man. I hope he gets better fast, man. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company.

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So every time you got it, CD and all the guys like to... You know what? I'm not even going to upset myself. I'm not even going to upset myself because whatever the competition committee or whoever is responsible for this and making the rules, still, they all about control. Taking away our NFL. NFL stands for no fun league.

And they continue to strike and continue to find ways to take fun away from the game and allow players not to be them individual selves. But, you know, attendance was down, right? If I'm not mistaken. But y'all go ahead and do it your way. Hey, Ocho. They give me $60 million. I go out there in a tuxedo.

I mean, Ocho, I mean, you think about it. That money, Ocho, you made good money. Ocho, them jokers making six, seven times what you made. Oh, yeah. You think about what you made

and not just six exit. Yeah. Okay. Hey, Ocho, I'm going to have oh job everything i'm gonna have everything all nice and deal with took a shirt in pull them socks up nice hey i don't have no problems i don't have no problems in there for you i tell you one thing if i was playing in the day's era all the stuff i was doing back then i still be doing it now. You still do it? Oh, man. Plus some. I ain't going to get no penalty. I ain't going to do nothing to get my team a penalty. But you don't.

I never got my team no penalty. I'm going to talk ish now. But then now you can't say the N-word, Ocho. Yeah, I know. Can you imagine if we was playing during the social media era? You know how many times we done said the N-word on that field? Oh, yeah. You heard me? Can you imagine if we was playing during the social media era? You know how many times we done said the N-word on that field? Oh, yeah. You heard me?

Can you imagine if we was playing during the social media era? Oh, Lord. Man, listen. Boy. Oh, Lord. Not me. Mind you, I got in trouble for tweeting on the sideline. We played Philly.

I got in trouble for tweeting on the sideline. We played Philly. I got in trouble for tweeting on the sideline in the middle of a preseason game. That was the beginning of social media era for me in 2009. Can you imagine? Man, listen, I'll score a touchdown and go live on Instagram. Oh, you, who? I told you. Who told you?

Because you told me. I'm going to take that fine. But see, I did the celebration where I pretended like I had a phone. I'm going to take that fine but see I did the celebration while pretending like I had a phone Joe Horn actually went and hid a phone pulled the phone out I said pretty soon somebody go hey

I ain't going to lie one time I'm going to say look here I'm going to send $100,000 I'm going to call Uber Eats Uber Eats is going to bring me a piece on the sideline I ain't lying hey one thing about it Who is going to bring me a pizza on the sideline? Hey, one thing about it. Hey, I would say, look here. I would tell my agent, my financial people, I'm sending $100,000 aside because I know I'm going to get fined.

Who is going to bring me a pizza? Hey, that's a good one right there. Listen, today's game, I would push the envelope. I really, they allow everybody to celebrate. They allow group celebrations. But everybody doing the same stuff. Nothing is authentic. Nothing is organic.

They're doing stuff they see on TV. They're doing stuff they see on TikTok. You get that. Oh, the NFL is all about fan engagement, right? Well, this is what y'all want.

You want the fans to enjoy the game and have fun? No, we tell y'all how to engage the fans. Don't you try to come up with something OG. Oh, no, no. I'm coming up with something. I'm going to push the fans. Don't you try to come up with something OG. Oh, no, no. I'm coming up

with something. I'm going to push the envelope. Don't let me score in the north or south end zone. Don't let me be playing away. Man, I'm pulling the fan out of the end zone, man. We're going to sit there and do the kid and play. And we'll put him right back in the stand. Can you imagine? Man, you're going to get the fan thrown out. You know the fan can't step on

the field, man. You're going to get him thrown out. That is a memory. I promise you, if I was playing today, whatever game I score, I'm telling you, I will pull a fan out the stands in the north or south end zone,

pull him down, and do the kid and play. That will be iconic because it's something that's never been done before. Everybody's doing stuff. Now that you can celebrate, they just repeating

the same stuff over and over. Somebody has to push the envelope and make it fun. Make it fun. All right, Ocho, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. Matthew Tessify asked is it still the Lakers and Fire though? Yeah!

We ain't running, we ain't dunking no smoke we got something for the Bulls too we gonna pay the Bulls back all I think that's Friday night, is it Friday night? When they pay the Bulls Ash? Friday night or tomorrow night? I don't know when Bulls, Ash? Friday night or tomorrow night? I don't know when. It's tomorrow?

Oh, damn. Oh, maybe I spoke too quick. Now, we got something for the Bulls. We're going to play Kobe White back. Man, Kobe White, Josh Getty, and Brazillas, man, they did something bad to us. We owe y'all. We owe y'all. We owe y'all a book. So we coming to the house at Jordanville.

Going to try to drop by 130 on y'all. LeBron going to go for about 40, 40, 10, and 6. Oh, Joe, Fruits for Life say, Chad Johnson, Magic Johnson, Johnson and Johnson. Liggers and fire.

Yeah. Chad Johnson, Magic Johnson, Johnson & Johnson. Lakers in five. Triple X, Cubsanity, Indy, Cindy, Wendy. Lakers in five. Whoa, said, no one wants to see my Clippers in the West For seven games though Clippers

Thank you Hey for real Leona Rose said What's up Alcanocho What's a dream vacation for both of you And where would you go Dream vacation for me Why y'all keep trying to get me to go on vacation with Ocho why y'all keep trying to get me to go on

vacation with Prime they are bad influences on me what is it that y'all don't understand I'm not a bad influence I can't be a bad influence I think they were asking individually no as a matter of fact hey chat

I had a he called you too cause he called you before he called me yeah he called me first yeah yeah I talked to him cause he could get

I was actually I was doing I was doing first take when he called me asked me say you talking to Pratt I'm like nah and he had called me

but I talked to him yesterday I ain't gonna say what he said well you know what he's saying cause he told you the same thing I ain't to say what he said. Well, you know what he's saying because he told you the same thing. I ain't going to say what he said. What's the dream vacation?

Where we going on, Joe? Listen, from an individual standpoint, we are polar opposites in the things we like. I want to go to Norway and I want to go to New Zealand. I want to swim with killer whales in the wild. You're not going to get in the water. You're not going to get in the water.

I'm not going to get in the water. I ain't gotten to the bathtub in 35 years. What, you just take showers? Yeah, I take showers. I ain't going to sit in that dirty road and that water be dirty back on you. Hell, you got to get in the shower to get the, nah, get the scum up off you. No.

Hell nah. Yeah. I mean, that's my dream. That's my dream. People in the chat, I don't know if you don't know, if you do know me, if you know me, you follow me for a while, you know how much I love killer whales. That's my spirit animal. My entire right leg from the waist to my ankle is tattooed with killer whales. And the last thing on my bucket list to do, you know, I do anything once, but last thing on my bucket list to do you know i do anything once my last thing on my bucket list to do is to go to norway and new zealand and swim with killer whales in the wild and i'm gonna do it i don't know at what point um but that that's after about when i talk about a dream of mine oh lord have mercy ocho what what What happened? Look what LeBron posted. Who was that fighting?

That's Steve and they boxing. Oh, LeBron. That puke. He posted that for real? Yeah, he just posted like eight minutes ago. Oh, see, oh, see, he, he, he,

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Hey, this is a good thing. Oh, Lord have mercy. Oh, LeBron followed the kid, man. Okay. Yeah. I didn't know he followed the boy. Okay. Appreciate that. Man, bro. Come on, LeBron. Come on, stall him out, LeBron. Man, okay. I didn't know he followed the boy okay appreciate that man bro come on Bron

come on stall him out Bron man okay man he got a rotator cuff and you see the caption womp womp womp first of all man Steven ain't got a rotator cuff he got bad rotator cuff

that's why he swagger like that he ain't fluid in the show okay come on Bron got bad rotator cuff. That's why he's swinging like that. He ain't fluid in the show. Okay. Come on, Bron. Hey, Bron, shout out. What? Yeah, he just

posted that like 10 minutes ago. Yeah. Hey, Chad, I don't know if y'all know. I'm sure y'all watch the show. Ever since Bron sent me that 50,000 point ball, man. Even acting different, man. Long have mercy, Braun.

Do you like this new LeBron? Yeah, I like the new LeBron we're seeing right now. He probably watching. He probably in the chat. Ocho, J213 said, hey, Uncle Ocho Pick one to survive against For two minutes On a football field An elephant

A grizzly bear A silverback Or a hippo That's easy Which one? The elephant Yeah Elephant or the hippo

Cause they ain't got no lateral movement I'm just gonna dodge Yeah But The elephant Forget that I don't even want a chance to hippo naughty fam yo tj uh uh still got that good hair uh he's uh what what is what is TJ? Iranian? What is TJ? TJ is Iranian, isn't he?

God, dog, I can't even remember. I know, because he came, well, he told me one time, because he used to come on, he used to come on all the time on Undisputed in the early days. I forget. Yeah, that's what I told him. TJ said, when TJ said, we still look the same. Nah, God blessed us. I said, nah, God gave you still got your hair.

Ocho, he ain't been blessed like that. Nah, nah. Do you want me to go? My hair growing out right now, huh? Don't you let that thing grow out. Matter of fact, you know what? I'm going to let it grow out and I'm going to just get it tapered. I'm going to get it tapered.

Ocho. Ocho. That man going to start edging you up at the 50-yard line. You're talking back. You're back here. I mean, I need to pay Ocho. We need to go out to your boy job. We need to go to Turkey.

Hey, hold on. Wait a minute. I can go to get it. Matter of fact, you know what I should do for one of the live shows, huh? What? Get the man unit with the waves you know what but see you can do that

cause you gotta shave your hair so it stays stick down so you could I can't do that I ain't shaving mine off cause it might not come back you remember when Audra Agassi had that hair and then when he shaved it off it ain't come back no more. Yep.

Check Hook says, James Harrison finna fold Ocho like a vacuum cord. And you know what? Matter of fact, whoever just said that, I'm going to see you in person. I'm going to see you in person. I'm going to see you. I'm going to see you.

Big Blue. Ocho, best receiver duo Matthew Stafford has played with, Megatron and Tate or Devontae and Puka? Well, Megatron and Tate because we haven't seen Devontae and Puka yet. We know what Devontae is. We know what he can do. We know what he's done in the past.

We haven't seen it yet with the Rams. Yeah. Just to say, oh, for 50 million, I go to hell. I said that, I said that, oh, oh,

first take. We was talking about something. Like, I was like, yeah. 50 million, a lot of bread, Ocho.

Don't DG say, what's up, Uncle Ocho? Ocho and Ash, with WrestleMania approaching, you should ask, uh, some wrestling, wrestling and WrestleMania questions.

Dunk on that? You and that would stump him. Yeah. I mean, I know a little WrestleMania, but I know like before it became the WWL or the WWE. We go back to the Georgia Championship. But I'll brush up on it. Me, myself, and I said,

oh, should have known a sports trivia expert was going to discuss playing. Glennon Lyle Blackwood played in 81 Dolphins from 81 to 86. Dunk on, uh. You remember that? The no-name defense. That's what they would call the no-name defense.

No-name defense? Yeah. Glennonname defense? Yeah. Glenn and Lyle Blackwood. My car, no one. Flying Spirit tomorrow, not by choice. Any advice or anything I should expect, never flown with him. Ocho, what should he expect? Listen, I fly with Spirit all the time.

What you expect, you can expect good service. You can expect great service. You can also expect Wi-Fi. Okay? Alright, let me know how it is on tomorrow's show. Huh? I get that on the airline I fly. Yeah, but

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