Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Travis Hunter believes he can play both sides, Dolphins tired of Tyreek antics, & Geno Smith speaks on Seahawks departure!
Episode Date: April 8, 2025Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Travis Hunter believing he can play both sides of the ball, Dolphins tired of Tyreek’s antics, & Geno Smith on the disrespect in... Seattle! We also discuss a man facing charges for trying to kill over his ex & much more!04:25 - Travis Hunter on playing two positions24:12 - Dolphins worried about Tyreek Hill trade33:46 - Geno Smith on respect37:10 - CJ Gardner-Johnson on being traded40:18 - Every QB drafted in 2021 is on there third team, except one43:17 - Man facing charges for trying to kill over ex57:15 - Q&Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Travis Hunter says he can play every snap
in an NFL game if given a chance.
Let's take a listen to what Trav had to say.
Talk that talk, boy.
What are you at the next level?
Both, just like you saw me play.
You want to do both.
How many snaps in a football game can you play?
All of them.
If they give me the chance and the opportunity to do it.
So we were talking about the challenges that come with it.
You've got to be in offensive meetings.
You've got to be in defensive meetings.
You've got to be in wide receiver meetings.
You've got to be in defensive back meetings.
How is there enough time to do all that?
How did you prepare for that when you played college?
Well, we kind of got 24 hours in a day.
We probably sleep for about eight of those.
So we probably got 16 more.
And all of them dedicated to those.. And all of them dedicated to those.
Yeah, all of them dedicated to football.
Ocho.
Yeah.
The issue is not playing both of them.
Right.
Can you play both of them well?
Yeah, right, right.
Because I can put anybody out there
to play both sides,
but how well can they play?
You can play them, yeah.
There's a difference.
There's levels.
There have been great guys in college
that couldn't play at that next level.
Right.
And you're asking,
because see, for me,
it don't do him no good.
For me, for him to go out there,
like, oh, he playing both sides of the ball.
Right.
How well will he play both sides of the ball?
Right.
That's the question.
Do I believe he gonna play every snap?
No. No. He's not.. Do I believe he's going to play every snap? No.
No.
He's not.
You know what I like?
What?
I like the belief.
I like the fact that he believes he can actually do it.
Most of the time, that's where it all starts.
In anything you do in life, believing that you can do it, manifesting, not only doing that, not only believing it and manifesting it, then working your way into actually being able to do it.
Has it been done before?
Absolutely not.
Which is why you and I—
They used to play both ways back in the 50s, the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s.
I think Chuck McNerrick, rest his soul, was the last two-way player.
He was a middle linebacker and a center for the Eagles.
He was the last full-time two-way player.
Concrete Charlie.
Yeah.
And I think one of the reasons why me and you and everyone else is debunking
his ability to play full-time on both sides of the ball is because of how much
extreme, what's the word I'm looking for here?
It's a physical grind.
Because guess what, Ocho?
He plays both sides of the ball.
He gets hurt and miss a game.
Guess what I've got?
Right.
I'm down two players.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
That too.
But listen.
I'm down two players, Ocho.
Yeah.
Listen, I like the confidence, though.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
I like the confidence.
That's part of it.
That's half the battle is believing.
In everything you do. Believe believing you can do it.
What I would love for him to do is you got to focus on one thing.
You got to be great at one thing.
You're not going to be able to be great at both.
You can't be great at DB and great at receiver.
You have to become a craftsman at one or the other.
Now, I don't know which one it's going to be.
Me, personally, I like him playing both.
I enjoy it.
I enjoy watching him play both sides of the ball.
Will he be able to do it at that level, at an elite level, at the next level?
I don't know.
That's very, very difficult.
When you look at the level of talent, you're going to have to see week in and week out.
That's the hard part.
Yes. Because the level, the level, the level,
the level field evens.
Yeah. Because there are a lot
of guys that are just as talented as he is.
Wait, say it again?
I said there are guys that are just as talented as
he is. Oh yeah, just as talented. he is. Oh, yeah, just as talented.
And there'll be some that are even more talented.
Everyone is just as fast.
Everyone just as quick.
Ladder movement, short-air quickness, no matter what you do.
Everything, everybody is exactly the same.
There's one thing that separates everybody.
Your technique and up here.
It becomes a mental game at that point. that separates everybody. Your technique and up here. Yep.
It becomes a mental game
at that point.
I like it though.
It's exciting.
I'm curious.
I'm curious to see
where he goes
and not only where he goes
but what they allow him to do.
How are they going to use him?
People talking about
they don't hit in the NFL.
Yeah, they do.
They do.
Man, please.
Listen, I know
the rules have changed a little bit.
You know, they can't hit like they did during our day.
But they're still hitting that.
Yeah.
They're still hitting.
You know what?
I wish all the fans that say they don't hit,
they would sign a waiver and go out there and say,
okay, Brad Warner.
Okay, who's a safety?
Okay, G.J. W no. Brad Warner. No, no, no, no. Okay, who's a safety? Okay, TJ Watt.
And see.
No.
No, no, no, Joe.
No, no, no, no, no.
They said they don't hit.
So I want them to go out there and see.
It's one thing to watch the game from the stands.
It's one thing to watch the game of football from TV.
Yes.
But to put on some pads as a fan
and not understand
how fast the game is
and how fast
them mofos
is moving?
Man, don't do that.
You'll preach it
to the choir.
Man, don't do that.
You played 11 years.
I played 14 years.
I understand
the collisions.
Man.
And people,
see,
everybody thinks
something easy if you've never done it but yeah
or maybe maybe they have done it um but we talk about peewee high school college
but it's different it's different there's levels to this as you go up you play flag
you play pop one or peewee pop one or whatever you want to call it.
Then you go to JV, you go to high school,
you go to college. Now, there is
no higher level
than the NFL.
So, all the people say, look,
the NFL, hey,
we'll allow you to play. We want you to sign
this waiver. Whatever position you
want to play. If you want to play
running back, you want to play wide receiver, you want to play. If you want to play running back, you want to play wide receiver,
you want to play quarterback.
If they want to play it.
Man, please.
Not again. We're going to have
practice. Okay. Who you want
to go up against?
So, you want
Fran Warner? You want Zaire Franklin?
You want Roquan Smith? No.
Okay. You want Pat Sartain? You want J Warner? You want Zaire Franklin? You want Roquan Smith? No. Okay. You want Pat Sartain?
No.
You want Jalen Ramsey?
You want Stingley?
I'm talking about who do you want?
Who do you want to guard?
Who do you want to go up against?
Now, just one time, and we'll say, okay, now, tell me what you think.
You think they're still hitting the NFL?
Nope.
And you know what?
People's perspective on the game won't change until they're actually
in that situation it's a situation hypothetically speaking they will never be in therefore that's
why they comment the way they do from the outside looking in of course that's why they talk down on
players the way they do because they've never been in that position they don't understand how
difficult it is so it's easy to talk, you know, from the couch,
or if you watch the game and you study the game
and have never actually played it,
don't understand how difficult it is.
I don't think people really understand
how great Saquon Barkley is.
Forget the number he's putting up.
I don't think they get it.
They don't understand how good Lamar Jackson
and Josh Allen, all these dudes that they talk about,
you know, on Twitter and X, and they don't understand how good these dudes
are. Oh, I'm not saying
that you can't catch, but I'm saying
catch the ball when a dude gonna drill you.
We
have to focus.
We have to lock in on the ball.
Bring it in. Man,
come on, man. There's so many that
man. Hey, Ocho, they don't hit no more. Man, come on, man. There's so many that may, man.
Hey, Ocho, they don't hit no more.
I tell you what, we're going to hand the ball off,
and we're going to block it just like we would if that was Derrick Henry
or Saquon running the football.
We're not going to turn him loose on you.
We're going to block it all the same.
And, man, you remember this.
And when they block it all the same, there's always one free man
that the running back has to beat. because the quarterback is not blocking anybody yeah always one man at the court
that the running back has to be and that's your man you got to beat him on your own
it's different man and you got on pads i mean you you're not used to juking nobody
hey as a matter of fact you see the guy from the Hawks?
They had two guys that he went to lay the ball up and he ended up tearing his knee.
For real?
Yes.
You talking about like a halftime?
Yes.
You know how they have a competition.
You got to make so many points.
One guy on one end, one guy on the other end.
They gave him five, four, three.
He got the ball, went to lay it up.
Reel him up out of the wheelchair.
But that's funny.
Once the thing is, I don't think people realize when people like, well, damn, man, you're bigger than I thought.
You don't look that big on TV.
Right.
Hell, I'm small compared to a tight end.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And then you multiply that.
I got run at full speed.
If you ain't never been used to taking no hit or you haven't taken a hit in a while.
You're not taking the blows.
No, not at all. As I got older, I didn't want to look. I was a guy. I would take a lick. I're not taking the blows. No, not at all. Because as I got older,
I didn't want to,
look, I was a guy,
I would take a lick.
I would, hey,
okay, I'm cool.
And bounce right back up.
If I got older,
I started getting year 12, 13, 14,
I put that blink on,
little Joe.
Blink on, blink on. You don't know what I'm talking about.
Hey, little Joe,
I hear right on the bottom.
I ain't taking that lick no more.
Yeah.
I'm good.
Listen, as you get older, you get by the year 10 and on,
you make business decisions.
Absolutely.
Hey.
Put that blink on, hit on out of bounds.
Hey, turn it up.
No, I'm good.
Hey, Ocho, it's second and one.
If we can't get second and one, third to one, I don't know the team.
I laid the ball, okay,
pour them down, something like that, okay, I get you.
Right.
Hey, back in the day, Ocho, two guys
coming. Okay, you over here, you over here.
Okay, I split you. You split them?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think you're the lesser of the danger.
Let me get you.
Let me get you.
I will get you.
Back inside, that's a problem.
You, not a problem.
Right.
But I'm really anxious to see Travis give it a go, playing both sides.
It's important where he goes.
It's very, very, very, very important where he goes.
I hope the team that drafts him understand his beliefs,
understands his wants, and they use him in that manner
because he's an exciting player he's a generational talent
and they need to be able to use him in a manner so he's able to display that at the next level
the same way he did at Colorado I'm not so sure it's not more of a mental than a physical focus
because you have to be on your a game all the time especially Especially on defense. Because, you know, sometimes
the wide receiver, you're not getting the ball, so I ain't really
got to focus. They ain't throwing me the ball. I'm lasting
the progression. But as a
defensive player, as a corner,
you lie.
You have
one slip, Ocho. You
hesitate a little bit.
You got to smell the deodorant.
Oh, yeah. Strike up the band.
That's it.
And now you're coming.
Hey,
hey,
and what everybody do
after they get a touchdown,
what they do, Ocho?
They look up at the jump,
Ocho, yeah, that's you.
That's you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We just saw that.
Yeah, when you look at him,
yeah, that's you.
Mm-hmm.
But I'm anxious
to see what he can do.
He believes he can do it yeah do i believe
he can play every snap offensive defense i don't do i think he can play one side and then they have
packages i believe it's easier if he's a db for them to install packages at the wide receiver
position i believe that's easier but let him try it yeah Yeah. I like it.
And you're drafting him knowing that's what he wants to do.
One of the reasons he went with time, time told him he would let him do it.
I'll let you do whatever you can do.
He showed time he could do it.
He did it.
He won the Heisman Trophy.
One of the great seasons of the wide receiver.
He had, what, 13, 14 under yards? A DB.
He had a bunch of pass breakups.
Had a forced fumble.
Key interceptions.
Good tackler.
Oh, he going to come up and tackle.
Let's see what he can do.
No problem whatsoever.
I think you have to give him that.
Deep down, he's going to feel some type of way.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
Let me see what he got.
Listen, you knew what I wanted before I got here.
I expressed my interest in it. I've said it over and over and over countless times.
And you bring me in.
You draft me this high, wherever it may be.
And then when I get here, you tell me, well, we don't think you.
You know how they play that game, Monk.
Well, we don't think you.
Well, we think you're better suited at. on now don't don't don't play that game
somebody tell me he would love that opportunity
so where do you think he goes on show yeah where do you think trav goes i don't know cleveland
the giants i don't know listen when you the Giants, I don't know.
Listen, when you talk about Cleveland,
they need a quarterback.
When you talk about the Giants,
they need a quarterback.
So I don't think any of those two teams
are not passing up on Shador
or Cam Ward.
Now, listen,
somebody might come up from low
and surprise us on draft day
and come and grab a quarterback early and
then it frees up the door somewhere else we keep forgetting we're not even talking about abdul
carter hell who's to say he don't go first you know i it's you just don't know especially with
those four ain't no telling how it's gonna go but i know he's gonna go in the top five i just don't
know where and who knows what's
going to happen on draft day with some other team and some conversation that they might feel a player
is up there that might be a generational talent and a franchise-changing player to them. And they
go up and snatch him and chain the draft all the way up. According to Adam Schefter, the Browns
are more likely to pick Travis Hunter at two in the draft.
He impressed Cleveland at his pro day.
The Browns are exploring a potential taking Travis Hunter at two,
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don't like when they bring players in and have
them sitting there like that all day and
ain't no telling where you're going to go. It's not
for certain you're going in the first round.
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I would be cautious.
Right. And let me tell
you why I'm cautious. I'm cautious
because I watch Anthony Richardson.
And I watch a supremely guy that size run 4'5", 4'4", whatever he ran, jump out of the gym.
Well, he's a 50 plus percent completion guy in college.
College NFL is harder to get completions than the end of the,
than college.
Right.
If you're 50 in college,
you see he was 46.
Richardson was 46.
There are times I'm looking at mirror.
I'm like,
bro,
what are,
what was that?
Now I'm not saying that with some time,
but how much time are you going to give it?
Right.
Cause you're going to Cleveland, bro. They're going to need you to be at least by year two.
You got to go.
You're going to need to be ready to go.
You got to go.
Because Jimmy and Dee Haslam, they look, look, we bit the bullet on this one.
Mm-hmm.
With Deshaun.
We gave up three first-round picks.
One of them was C.J. Stroud.
One of them was Will Anderson Jr.
And the other one was Tank Dale.
That's crazy.
Oh, that's crazy.
One was offensive rookie of the year. The other was
defensive rookie of the year. And they both
gone to the Pro Bowl.
Now,
we bit the bullet on them.
We signed off on Deshaun.
But you brought that to us.
Now,
we just gave,
what you call them,
140 million,
160 million,
whatever we gave Miles Garrett.
We took Trav.
We traded back into the first round,
which means that we're possibly
going to have to give up
next year's first round.
Okay.
Listen, the Browns have been missing for a long time on their first round picks.
They've been missing for a long time.
I know one thing.
They can't miss if they go with Travis Hunter.
You can't miss.
No.
You won't miss. Now, they miss with quarterbacks, but you can't you can't miss no you won't miss now they miss they miss
the quarterbacks but you're not gonna miss there so it's i i'm ready for it to say i'm ready for
to see how this thing play i'm trying to i'm trying i'm tired of trying to play expert and
like oh he's going here he's going there because you don't know you don't like you said somebody
might come zooming up the draft board
because somebody's like, oh, he ain't get selected.
Oh, I can get him here.
Right.
We're about to find out.
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about the culture he's creating in the locker room they have begun to hear teams out potential
trade scenarios but will only act on a deal where they feel they're getting fair value in the return
right i tried to tell you this ocho you didn't in the return. Right. I tried to tell you this, Ocho.
You didn't want to hear me. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You tried to tell me what? About Tyreek.
They were getting tired of that.
We talked about it. Listen, I think
Tyreek ain't slow.
He's pretty smart.
If you know they're tired of it and you keep on
doing it, what does that tell you?
He doing it on what?
He doing it on what? He doing it on what?
You think he doing it on purpose?
Yeah.
Absolutely, at this point.
Absolutely.
TikTok, you know, some of the stuff he's doing.
Well, he's the one that's talking about,
oh, define that your team trying to trade him.
You're the one, the last game of the season,
you talk about your peace side,
you got to go do what's best for you.
I don't like when people become a victim in their own story.
Right. Be a victim in someone else's
story. You can't be a victim in a story
that you created.
You created this.
You wanted out of Kansas City
a situation that you...
Wait, he wanted to get paid.
He wanted to get paid. That's all.
They were going to pay him, but you got to realize
Tyreek had years left on the contract.
Yeah.
Now, when they came to him and they asked him when he restructured, he said, no, I don't believe it.
I signed the contract.
Then the next year, he wanted to redo his contract.
Right.
Even though he had said the year before he signed the contract.
I got no problem with that.
Yes, sir.
You go to a guy that was injury prone.
Ocho, tell the people at home, how did Tua come into the league?
He limped into the league.
Remember, he fractured
his hip his last year. In college,
yes, sir. He was injury prone in college.
Right.
They're not nearly as physical as they are
in the NFL. So what do you think
is going to happen, Ocho?
You're going to deal with some injuries here at the next
level.
So now, and then you go look
I get it you know you A
but you tried to sell us
ain't nobody believe
that Tua was on the home level
not his accuracy
not his being able to throw none of that
okay you want to hype your quarterback up
you're like hey I believe in him we get all of that
you played the wide receiver position I started You're like, hey, I believe in him. We get all of that.
You played the wide receiver position.
I started wide receiver with the tight end.
I get it.
I want to give my guy confidence, let you know I believe in him.
But I'm trying to figure out, Ocho, what is it?
Like you said, his first year there, he was second in the league in receiving.
The second year there, first year there, he was second in the league in receiving league receiving the next year there he was one of the few guys
that's ever had
1800 receiving yards
last year
he was Nick
it got up to a bad start
he started the first game
of the season Ocho
with the traffic stopping
so forth and so on
I don't really know
what happened
but hey
bro I
oh lord
I just don't get these guys on show
I don't get them
hey listen
you never know what's going to happen
all that stuff is going on
you know Tyreek is not happy
obviously he's
continues to do
what he does on social media
probably
trying to egg on a trade
in that manner
in a fun entertaining way
you know using TikTok
then you have the draft coming up
ain't no telling
what's going to happen draft day ain't no telling so you know something might happen there you know, using TikTok. Then you have the draft coming up, huh? Ain't no telling what's going to happen draft day.
Ain't no telling. So, you know, something
might happen there. You know,
it changed things up. I'm just, like,
that's what's so exciting to me
because you just don't know.
Yeah. You just don't know.
There's nobody for certain. You
know what? He was so great in
college. He's absolutely
going number one.
You just don't know yeah uh who who are you talking about going number one oh joe i man oh you talking about
oh you oh yeah i'm saying yeah you just you just you don't know it could be Listen Tennessee Tennessee need a quarterback Don't they
Yes
I mean
I don't know man
Ain't no telling
I think the thing is Ocho
This is what we see
Yeah
No matter how great you are
They'll move your ass
Oh yeah
And they'll
Because they're not gonna let you
Become bigger than the team
Not only bigger than the team
They won't let you become Bigger the team. Not only bigger than the team, they won't let you become bigger than the game itself.
No.
No.
Because Kansas City,
they traded Tyreek and went to three straight Super Bowls.
Yeah.
They won two.
You got to understand why they went to three.
They got that special dude over there too.
So what did that tell you?
Why receivers ain't doing nothing without what?
No matter who he is.
Quarterback.
Tyreek had 1,800 yards.
Waddle had another 1,200.
Did they win a playoff game?
Mm-mm.
I was just talking about the Super Bowl factor, but I got you.
No, you better have that guy to pull that trigger.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
You better have him.
Mm-hmm.
It's L.O.
Because think about it.
All those years, New England, how many Pro Bowl wide receivers they had?
If you take Randy Moss out of the equation, Wes Welker,
I think Troy Brown went to one.
But I don't think Troy, I could be wrong.
I don't know if Troy went with Brady.
I think he went maybe a year before Brady.
Maybe I'm wrong.
But if you go back and study it, Ojo,
they have a whole lot of Pro Bowl wide receivers.
That's why people really fell in love with Tom.
They're like, they've been going to all these Super Bowls,
and they got all these stuff,
wide receiver here,
wide receiver here,
wide receiver over there,
Pro Bowl, All-Pro,
and he doing that.
You better have that guy.
Yeah.
You better have him.
It makes a difference.
It's the reason they make the big bucks.
It makes a big difference.
Oh, yeah.
He's the foundation.
If you get him, Ocho,
I can build. If I got a solid
foundation, I can put whatever I want on it.
If I got a great foundation,
I can put a 20,000 square foot
home or I can put a thousand square
foot home. My foundation's solid
and it can hold it all.
Well, foundation is
so important in all aspects of life.
It is.
Huh?
Well, you just said a word there
and don't even know you said it.
I get Gronk was there,
but y'all do realize that Brady went to
how many Super Bowls before Gronk arrived?
Mm.
Don't do that.
Don't minimize that, man.
Gronk is, hey,
Gronk for me is one of the two best tight ends.
Some people got Gronk one.
Some people got Kelsey.
I got Kelsey.
Hey, I'll debate you.
Look at the regular season.
Look at the postseason.
Blah, blah, blah, so forth and so on.
But, Tom, come on now.
All I know is Deion Branch won Super Bowl MVP.
Yeah.
He went to Seattle, and we never heard from him.
David Patton.
Y'all know where David Patton went after he left New England?
Nobody look at the receivers that he had early in his career.
Yes, he hasn't. When they left New england did you ever hear from them again he take it undrafted y'all do realize wes worker was an undrafted guy
y'all do realize edelman was a seventh roundround guy. What round did Amendola get drafted in?
Because I think he went to the Rams first, Ocho, if I'm not mistaken.
I think Amendola was with the Rams first, if I'm not mistaken.
That man was really turning.
Look, they were good players, but I don't know if they're going to be what they became.
Without being there.
Wow.
So he was an undrafted free agent.
Who?
Amendola.
Hey, Amendola was nice too, huh?
He was the Cowboys, then the Eagles, then the Rams.
He was nice.
Get David Gibbons.
Do y'all remember what David Gibbons went once he left New England?
What about David Patton?
Deion Branch was a Super Bowl MVP.
He went to Seattle.
Did y'all ever hear from him again?
Yeah.
Edelman was a quarterback, Ocho.
Oh, yeah.
At Kent State.
Kent State, yeah.
I just look.
I don't.
Ocho.
7-11.
Chris Hogan.
Your guy.
Oh, always open. Buffalo Bills. Yeah, 7-11.ven. Chris Hogan. Yo guy. Oh, always open.
Buffalo Bills.
Yeah, 7-Eleven.
Yeah, he ain't with the Dolphins.
What, he undrafted?
He was like a lacrosse or a field hockey player or something.
Hey, he was nice.
He was nice.
He was nice when he got with Brady.
He was nice.
Goddamn Chris Hogan.
That's a good one now.
Undrafted.
Undrafted Wes Welker.
Undrafted Julian Edelman.
Undrafted Chris Hogan.
Seventh-round draft pick Julian Edelman.
Quarterback makes a big difference.
Yeah.
New Raiders quarterback Geno Smith spoke about leaving Seattle. He said said you're talking about a quarterback who wants not only to get paid every player wants to get paid but to be
respected that's the most important thing that's the respect it's the respect factor and I just
felt like there was a disconnect there I'm curious what that was because whatever it was, they kept that internally.
I want to get paid.
We don't want to pay you. That's the disconnect.
Okay. That's a good one.
That's a good one. Hey, listen.
That's the best way to put it, but
the fact that he conducted himself
like a pro, like you just
said, we didn't hear people
about it. And most of the time when it comes to quarterbacks,
you never do hear about it because they always conduct themselves in the right manner because they
don't want to mess up the bag somewhere else oh joe she wants to get married you don't want to
get married there's a disconnect yeah what's the disconnect she want to get married i didn't i
didn't yeah there's a disconnect money seems you know what? Money seems to have a lot of disconnect.
It does.
Man, I just had a disconnect at the job.
I wanted to raise.
They didn't want to give it to me.
They didn't raise, yeah.
So what?
What are we doing, Ocho?
Yeah, you're right.
Hey, but like I said, I'm confused by this.
Because for me, you look at it.
I think Geno's better than Sam Darnold.
Me, that's me personally.
Look at his body of work.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
You could have had Geno for the same price,
but you'd rather have somebody, an unproven guy.
Now, I get it.
If I'm not mistaken, I think they hired Clint Kubiak
to be the coordinator in Seattle.
Right.
Clint. I mean, hey. I think they hired Clint Kubiak to be the coordinator in Seattle. Right. Clint?
I mean, hey.
I think they did hire Clint.
Hold on.
Because they got two sons, both of them OCs, Clint and Klein.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I don't care.
I don't care who you got calling the plays.
I don't care about who you brought in.
I know who you didn't bring in.
You ain't bringing number 18 and number three from Minnesota.
You ain't got that.
I guess this, Ocho, they said, look,
we brought in the same offense.
A guy that he used to hear in his ear.
You get rid of DK.
You release Lockett.
So you only got JSN.
JSN.
Maybe they're going to take a receiver, Ocho.
I don't know.
They got Noah Fant.
They got K-9.
Hold on.
What receiver you've seen in the draft this year coming up
that is even close to that of Jordan Addison or Justin Jefferson?
Now, we got some good ones now.
We got some good ones.
Do we have franchise-changing receivers coming in the draft?
Wherever you are, he's the first or second best receiver in football.
Okay, most people are going to have Chase based on what he's done, he did last
year. But Jefferson, you look at his body of work,
he's no worse than two right now.
He's no worse than two, Ochoa.
Right, right.
You got Chase, I just saw Chase
this weekend.
But I, hey,
but you're right, Ochoa,
but you know how it is. Yeah.
Just like players believe the grass is greener, teams do too.
Teams believe that they can just plug anybody in there
or we can get the same results.
No, absolutely not.
They do.
I understand that they do, but it doesn't work.
It doesn't work half the time.
No, it doesn't.
So, guess what?
We'll find out.
Mm-hmm.
CJ Gardner-Johnson. That's my guy. Mm-hmm. CJ Gardner Johnson.
That's my guy.
Talks about being traded from Philly.
Nephew.
People showed me their true colors when I got traded.
Bro.
Yeah.
You know how fans are.
Fans are...
Hold on.
Oh, sure.
What you mean?
The fans ain't traded?
How we did?
Yeah.
Well, you know how the fans... How we... And guess what? The fans ain't traded? Howie did. Yeah. But you know how to pay me.
And guess what?
The fans are not going to be upset.
Because look at Howie's track record.
Look at how he's drafted.
Look at the free agents that he's brought in.
Right.
So, they're going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
If you're trying to sway public opinion against Harry Roseman, that man…
Oh, look up. You're going to lose that. against Harry Roseman, that man, oh, look up.
You're going to lose that.
He brought in Saquon.
He traded for A.J. Brown.
He got Devontae.
He drafted Jalen Hurts.
He drafted Landon Dickerson.
He's read Ma Lada.
Bro, you're not finna win that battle.
Yeah.
Braun, who was a pass rushing guy at New Orleans.
He brought him in and he's an all pro and he got paid.
Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Blankenship, DeJuan.
Bro, what's his name?
Mitchell.
What is it?
Mitchell?
What's the cornerback name?
Keon.
Keon.
Keon.
Keon Mitchell.
Keon Mitchell.
Yeah.
He's nice.
Bro, I get it.
I get it.
Look, you came back and you played really well, bro.
Very well.
Kudos, bro.
You got to look at it like this, bro.
You're still in the league and you're getting a check.
Mm-hmm.
Listen, and for the most part, the fans and family, they show them love.
They show them love because they understand what he's done,
you know, for that organization and how well he's played. So they've always shown him love. They show him love because they understand what he's done, what he's done, you know, for that organization
and how well he's played.
So they've always shown him love.
So, listen,
I'm happy for my nephew, man.
He's going to be all right.
He's going to be all right.
Hold on.
I need some drinks.
You know it's tough, Ocho.
You there.
You know you're going to win.
They're in a great situation.
And then,
what did they trade him to?
They trade him to Houston?
What did they trade him to?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, he over there with Stroud, man.
Yeah. Listen, he over there with Stroud, man. Yeah, okay.
Listen, he over there with, listen, he, to me,
now I'm not going to say he went to a better defensive team,
but you ain't over there with no slouches.
You got Stingley.
That young.
Will Anderson Jr., you got Danell Hunter.
What's the young boy, the DB, the rookie from last year?
DB? Yes.
Boy, he the real deal.
I can't remember his first
and last name. He was the real
deal. He was cutting a fool in training camp
and cutting a fool all season
long. Man, be
balling. I think he was number 14
or he was number four.
I can't remember what number he was. Okay, I know what you're talking about.
Man. He made some plays. Yeah, he made some
plays. I don't know his name, Ochoa, off the top of my head,
but I know what you're talking about. Hey, boy, he is nice.
And I promise you, after today, I won't forget his
name. I'm parched.
Let me get something to drink real quick. Hold on.
They say Lasseter.
Yeah, that's him. Lasseter.
He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he. Yeah, that's the lesson.
Wow.
Every quarterback in the 2021 first round, besides Trevor Lawrence,
is on their third NFL team.
Zach Wilson, Jets, Broncos, Dolphins.
Trey Lance, 49ers, Cowboys, Chargers.
Justin Fields, Bears, Steelers, Jets.
Mack Jones, Patriots, Jags, 49ers.
It was 2021, the worst draft class in NFL history.
It's up there, Ocho.
It is up there, but also, listen, again, I'm going to say it again,
like you always say, it's very important where you go.
Look at the situation Zach Wilson went into.
I mean, who could have lost? I don't think Zach Wilson had one good year.
And the Jets had their mind made up they're taking him.
Right.
Trey Lance had one good year.
Right.
He had that at FCS.
Mm-hmm.
I think I'm going to need to see a little bit more.
More?
Right.
Okay.
Justin Fields.
I think Justin Fields' situation, I think Justin being at the Bears,
I just like when, it's tough, Ocho,
because when guys come in,
you want somebody to protect them.
Defensive coaches normally going to run the football
and play to their defense,
but if that's what you're going to do,
get somebody that understands what a talent
that Justin Fields is.
Yes, sir. And then Matt
Jones, I think Coach
Belichick did him a huge disservice. Right.
The second year.
Because the first year when
he had Josh
McDaniel, he
was sensational. They went to the playoffs.
He went to the Pro Bowl. And then
you bring in, you get Matt Patricia
and you get Joe Judge in
his ear. Neither has ever called plays
for an offensive player. Neither has
really worked on that side of the football.
So I thought they did him a huge disservice. I
really did. Now, I thought he
played some good moments with
the Jags. I think he'll
be really good with the
49ers because
that offense
is tailored to him.
Get the ball out of your head
because I don't think his arm, he's not
the strongest arm, but I don't think Brock Purdy has a
cannon. And that
offense is all about precision.
Brock Purdy, very accurate.
Very accurate.
So, but it's a bad draft class, Ocho.
I mean, Ocho, that's just 21, 22, 23, 24.
That's five years.
And the quarterbacks.
Three different teams.
Damn.
Three different teams.
But guess what?
Yeah.
They're still getting checks.
Listen, those checks are not as big as they want, but they're still coming in.
That's all that matters.
Ocho, check this out.
Uh-huh.
A man in the U.S. has been arrested and charged with six counts of attempted homicide
after allegedly traveling more than 1,000 miles
and setting fire to the home of a man who had been communicating with his ex-girlfriend.
Hold on.
He's supposed to check the girl?
He ain't supposed to check nothing.
Ex.
Ex.
Oh, ex.
Yeah, you ain't supposed to check nothing.
Man, listen, man.
I'm going about my business, man.
I'm going about your business, man.
I don't understand man I don't understand
I don't understand
I don't understand how people be crashing out by people
Whether they be long
Even if you with somebody
Yeah
And a guy has the ability to gain access
To the person that you with
What does that tell you?
Why am I crashing out
About
Her allowing you to have access That lets me know where i'm staying
it's easy move on that's it's not hard i don't understand why it's so hard to wrap that around
our head because every time we start dealing with people we add a title to it we add relationship
we add marriage uh situationship no matter what it is and for to it we add relationship we add marriage uh situation
ship no matter what it is and for some reason we as men we view that as my property or ownership
that individual miles oh joe huh do you know how far a thousand miles is man you ain't got to tell
me that i don't own you i you're not my property if we're together i appreciate that and i'm moving based off how you
move yeah it's pretty easy when things look funny to you make it a comedy show it's simple
that's how you keep from getting yourself hurt so other words, when they start acting funny,
I might as well,
hey, get me a big nose and some red shoes
because I'm going to be a clown too.
Make it a comedy show
because they will make a fool of you
and then play victim.
Hey, you remember the song
Michelle and Dagocello
in Love and Basketball?
Oh, yeah.
You make a fool of me.
Tell me why you say that.
Wait.
But we made love just last night.
She sing that song?
Yes.
Wait a minute.
Oh, hell.
Why you tell me that?
Hold on, huh?
What's the name of the song?
I want to kiss you.
I'm going to put that in my library.
Just want you with the pain that I do.
I smell you in my dreams.
Ooh.
But now when we're face to face, you won't look me in the eye.
Come on.
No more friendship.
No more love.
You say I can't touch you.
Uh-huh.
I can't touch you.
No more.
Yeah. Oh, man. Listen can't touch you no more.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Listen.
What's the title?
What's the title of the song? You Make a Fool of Me.
Huh?
Love and Basketball.
You Make a Fool of Me?
Yes.
Michelle and Diego Cello.
Hold on, hold on.
There it is.
Fool of Me right there.
I'm finna add it to my library right now.
Does she want you with the pain that I do? I'm going to add it to my library right now.
Does she want you with the pain that I do?
Let that sink in, Ocho.
Does this person that you want to be with, does she want you with the pain that I do?
Because I can smell you in my dreams.
Hey, if you take it slow when you listen to what you said, you got to feel that.
You got to feel that.
That's, Ocho, every song that this woman sings, it resonates with me because I know I'm a very passionate person.
Yes, sir.
With.
I know how you feel. Take your time now. Yes, sir. With. Woo.
I know how you feel.
Take your time, man.
Take your time.
I told you when.
When old girl played that song for me, Ocho.
Uh-huh.
Trust. That's how you get to me. You play a song and I'm never going to forget it. Right, right. trust.
That's how you get to me.
You play a song and I'm never going to forget it.
Right, right.
I just,
and when I,
the first time I heard
that woman's voice
and every time
that she's close to me,
I go see her.
I went to see her
at the Tabernacle.
I went to see her
like twice at the Tabernacle.
I've seen her in LA. I've seen her in Colorado. I i've seen it in i've seen it three or four times in atlanta
and a lot of times i'm probably the only straight male there is a lot of a lot of women that that
that love that that love yes yes sir yes sir it's like that huh oh man Oh, man And she The soundtrack
Love drones
Uh-huh
She on there too?
Yes
If you feel the way
I feel for you
Rush over the name
Of the song
Her and Marcus Miller
Right
She got a song
With John Cougar
Man, look at
Chat, y'all will know
So I'm telling y'all now
If y'all say Man, who's Shelly'all now if y'all say man who's
sharing a shot ain't no question don't even ask michelle and daniel cello that's live
if you feel the way i feel i'll rush over there's no reason to be alone my thoughts for you
patiently i wait for an invitation
I often imagine you
come on now
a picture
that you're no more
a voice than on my
telephone that I find
myself rushing home to
oh man
hey
by all that mercy
hey
man don't talk
man don't give me
so much
yeah
you're gonna have
me fly
I can hear
I can hear the
passion
I can hear the enthusiasm in your voice
It sounds like you're hurting
You're not hurting are you?
No
Music make you think about certain people
Yes
So who do you think about?
Beautiful
Bitter
Dead End Boulevard
Faithful Mary Magdalene yeah uh come on man take i gotta
take your time man look here take your time man oh i'm telling you a lot of times i would and
people like man what you do i'm listening to michelle and
dago cello i'm listening to maxwell silently it's probably my favorite song from maxwell uh
this woman's work uh
i'm trying to think of the song hold on what's the name of the song symptoms unknown by maxwell uh-huh
symptoms unknown symptoms are symptoms unknown symptoms unknown
symptoms unknown what movie what movie is that? Is that from a soundtrack?
No.
Actually, I said that many, many years ago.
I tried to win her back.
You know what I'm saying?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I tried to win her back.
I tried to win her back.
I tried to win her back.
Hold on, hold on.
You ain't tell us this story.
I tried to win her back.
I tried to win her back.
You lost somebody?
Was it something that you did and you tried to win a back?
No, it wasn't something that I did.
Right, right.
I was just bull-jobbing around.
Oh, you playing a game?
You playing a game?
And what happened was, I was just dribbling.
Dude stole the ball and shot it.
And it went in.
Got me.
So, this song, I said,
look,
I went and bought her a CD,
I saw her someplace,
I bought her a CD,
and I handed it to her.
I said,
there are two songs
I want you to listen to.
I want you to listen to it silently,
and I want you to listen
to Symptoms Unknown.
Okay.
She said,
Shannon,
I'm getting married. Oh! Oh! She say, Shanna? Mm-hmm.
I'm getting married.
Oh!
Oh! Oh!
Hey.
Hey, uh, that hurt me, and that wasn't even me.
So. She was bad, too. She was bad. I know that hurt me, and that wasn't even me. So, she was bad, too.
I know that hurt, huh?
That hurt?
How that made you feel, huh?
I know that hurt.
I can't get mad at results I didn't get for the work I didn't put in.
Don't do that.
Don't you do that.
Don't you?
Hold on.
I'm going to throw you up, baby.
Y'all know how I am.
I cue it to you straight. Hold on. I'm 1,000. Don't you do that. Don't you hold on. I'm afraid y'all know how I am. I cue it to you straight.
Hold on.
I'm 1,000.
I'm honest with you.
Now, do give it to me.
Hey, Chad, Chad, do me a favor.
Somebody listen to what he says real quick and then type and write it to me on Twitter.
Bring that to me one more time.
Yeah.
I can't get mad at the results I didn't get for the work I didn't put in.
Had I done what he had done, maybe the situation, who knows?
But I didn't do what I was supposed to do.
Ocho, y'all know me, chat.
Y'all follow me, anything.
If y'all know anything about Shannon Sharp, I'm going to accept responsibility.
That's all I know how to do.
If I'm wrong, I got to be mad enough to say that.
That's one thing Mary Porter believed in that.
My grandfather believed in that.
I believe they did a great job of raising their nine and raising their mom.
My graph,
my mom's three.
I can never be mad.
I'm never going to be mad.
At results.
I didn't get for the work.
I didn't put in.
That's why I do this. i do now oh joe and i
tell i tell people when i go talk and i say hard work doesn't guarantee you anything but without
it you don't have a chance at all you see if i don't put it see if i don't if i put the hard
work in and i don't get the result that i'm hoping for okay that wasn't for me but i never want to
have regrets it man if i had just worked harder, if I had just done this,
you'll never
meet anybody. You won't meet one person
that will tell you Shannon Sharp didn't work hard.
God, I love that
quote, boy.
That's all.
That was good. That's all I know how to do.
But I do.
I spend a lot of time with Ocho.
Sometimes I'll just start cleaning up.
And I'll put Michelle and Diego Chelo on,
and I'll just play.
Just go.
I'll listen to Maxwell.
I'll listen to Sade.
I'll just listen to Atlantic Star.
I mean, I just like, and it just like, okay.
It's going to be okay.
Hey, I got a question.
Do you have a playlist already with some of your favorite songs when you're cleaning up?
I do.
You got to send me that playlist, man.
I got to check this out.
I got to check this out.
That's good.
That's some good music, man.
That's some good music.
Oh, yeah.
I just, like I said
I'm just
I'm just a guy
look
if I'm wrong
I'm wrong
and I missed
opportunities
I mean
I see people now
that you know
gotten married
and some women
be honest
women say
Shannon look
you good to have fun with
you're not the
marrying type
so you
they viewed you
as the fun guy
because they know
they say
Shannon work is way more important than any relationship is gonna be for you okay So you, hey, they viewed you as the fun guy. Because they know, they say, Shannon,
work is way more important than any relationship is going to be for you.
Okay.
Yeah,
but that's,
that's,
that's.
Your greatest enjoyment comes from work.
Nothing brings you pleasure like work.
Right.
But that doesn't even put you in the category of the fun guy too.
That's not.
Ocho,
they look at me, I'm aesthetically, you category of the fun guy, too. That's not the category. Ocho, they look at me
aesthetically, you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm built like a centaur.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying, Ocho?
I'm built like that.
All they be, they know when they get on shit.
Yeah.
I mean, two of the possible ain't bad.
As long as you know you got the big joker,
the little joker, little joker,
you're cut.
I'm going to get that.
But, uh...
Oh, that's a good one.
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it's time
for our final segment
Q and A
hey I enjoyed it
I enjoyed that night
that was good
that was good
that was really good
god damn that was good
Kipper Norwood Jr. said uh i disagree with dan olavsky with this take on first take this morning about cowboys they won't be in the playoffs next season and psa usa florida uh you at ps
us florida bay go away lake of the five okay psa usa florida bay go away lakeakers and five. Okay. PSA, USA, Florida Bay, go away. Lakers and five. Dio said he
believed the Cowboys are going to be better than what they were last year. And my question,
Stephen, a question to him. Okay. What do you mean better? Are they going to win a game?
Are they going to be in the playoffs? Are they going to make a deep run in the playoffs?
What do you mean better? Don't just say better. What do you mean better don't just say better what do you mean by better because i'm looking at it what do they do that's gonna put them in front of the eagles what are they
gonna do that's gonna put them in front of the uh uh the commanders right now that's two teams
that's in your division now unless you tell me three teams are going from that division
i said not but he said uh he said the Eagles are better,
the Commanders are better,
Tampa is better,
Detroit's better,
Green Bay is better,
the Rams are better.
Yeah.
I said, bro,
that's six teams right there.
Yeah.
Only takes seven?
Mm-hmm.
And the funny thing about
all the teams you've named about all the teams you've named,
all the teams you've named made immediate changes last year
to improve on both sides of the ball.
Can I ask you what the Cowboys have done to improve
on both sides of the ball since last year?
Nothing.
They done nothing to improve.
Being honest, they ain't done anything. King's Journey, Ocho. done nothing to prove it. Be it odd or dead,
it done anything.
King's Journey,
Ocho,
can I hold one of them cigars
K-Mart been to send you?
Go Gators.
Hey,
boy, listen,
I can't wait to get them.
What you want,
one of them lunatics?
Listen,
them Daniel Marshall cigars?
I want them on them
$300 cigars.
No, no, no,
you can't do that.
You can't do that.
Come on, Ocho,
let your boy smoke.
You don't even smoke cigars.
I tell you what,
don't worry about it. Send me my money. Let me go upstairs right quick. I got something for you. Okay, I got you can't do that. You can't do that. Come on, Charlie. I spoke. You don't even smoke cigars.
Don't worry about it.
Send me my money.
Let me go upstairs right quick.
I got something for you. Okay, I got you.
I got you.
Hey, listen.
This man owe me $5,200.
I ask him for a $300 cigar.
He go to my...
Okay, okay.
I got you.
Listen, listen.
I had to buy furniture today from a new place.
I had to buy furniture today.
So I'm going to get you $5,200, right?
I'm going to get it to you.
Where we at?
We in April?
Yeah.
Before we start a live show, I promise you the live show in Baltimore,
I'm going to play you live on stage.
You said that in New Orleans.
I know.
I did.
First of all, you were supposed to send me the money
before we even got to the live show.
But you didn't want to get no Apple Pay or Cash App
or Zelle or Venmo.
I told you, you could have had it right there.
You could have had it right there on the spot,
but you wanted to be difficult.
Ocho, I don't have that.
I don't have that on my phone.
Download the app. It takes two
seconds. I could have been sent your money.
You ain't really want it.
I want it.
Cash.
Oh, okay. You want cash?
Money talk. Cash screams.
Okay. Ah! Ocho,
pay me!
I promise you.
Hey, Baltimore, live show. Before the show starts, I'm going to pay you $5,200. okay I want your baby I promise you hey Baltimore
live show
before the show starts
I want to pay you
$5,200
I want
I want to smoke
I want to smoke
uh
uh
what they call
what are they called
Daniel Marshall
Daniel Marshall
Daniel Marshall
24 karat
24 karat
all gold cigar
beautiful too
so Penny Marshall was on Laverne and Laverne and Shirley.
Let me tell you something.
When the ashes, when they burn, the ashes be gold.
What?
Man, it's a beautiful thing, huh?
Yeah, I want one of them.
It's the reason they cost $300 a pop.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, they say Zell shut down, so I wouldn't have been able to get my money.
Yeah, if Zell ain't shut down, what are they talking about?
Ain't nothing wrong with Zelle.
I thought one of them cash apps had a...
Are them cash apps still going?
Cash app, Zelle, Venmo, PayPal, Apple Pay, cash app.
I want OchoPay.
Where is that?
How can I download that app
Hey where is that app
Hey well that's funny that boy
Chat y'all heard this man
This man say I asked this man
For a $300 cigar
Nah I said okay
Nah that ain't what you said at first.
I didn't hear you at first.
Man, I'm about to run up on this man and get my money, man.
Oh, Chad.
Hey, y'all, it's already day to day.
This man bought $21,000 worth of furniture
and put it on social media.
He's throwing his nose up at me.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. You are.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I was telling people that moving is expensive
and getting furniture.
Now, that was just
my living room set.
So I still got to finish
the rest of the house.
Ocho,
chat,
don't y'all think
Ocho's throwing his nose up at me?
Nah.
This man,
this man buying furniture.
He said he just spent $21,000 on living room.
No bedroom, no dinette, no kitchen.
He owe me $5,200.
Hold on, but that's what-
But he got $21,000 to spend?
But you got to understand, that's what's prolonging me sending your money because I have to make sure my kids have somewhere to go when they come to me.
When they come into Miami, I got to make sure all their rooms is done and everything is you know you know so i'm sure
you understand my money the cemetery is gonna be one of the places they could possibly go
i need to get my 5200
hey listen yeah he throwing his nose up up at you No I ain't do that
But listen
Due to unfortunate
Circumstances
You know
I had to move
I had to give me a place
I had to start over
I'm sure you're
Understanding of that
And you should be
Supporting me
During this awesome time
You should be happy
I'm supporting you
Yeah you should be
You should be happy
You know
Yeah man
Shoot
Yeah you should be happy Yeah man shoot Yeah you should be happy
If I show my gun
No okay
Let me go get this
Okay
You gonna flash a pistol at me
We just talked about John Morant
Flashing the fingers
I'm going to go
get his hair off from upstairs.
Adrian said,
who's your guys Mount Rushmore
of offensive linemen?
Offensive
linemen? Yep.
Anthony Munoz
Willie Anderson
Jonathan Ogden
Tony Buscelli
You ain't got no but tackles
Can I throw
It's so many man
Lee is so many
I'm taking Larry Allen
I'm going Larry Allen.
I'm going to take J.O.
Mike Webster got to be the center.
Boy, it's too
many. That's a good one though. It is. That's a good
question. I'm going to leave out
Walter Jones. You leave out
Garrett Zimmerman. You leave out Garrett Zimmerman.
You leave out Munoz, Art Shell, Gene Upshaw, John Hanna.
There's too many.
Too many greats.
Trying to think.
I should have just went by position, huh?
So left tackle, I'm going to go Jonathan Alden.
Willie Anderson at right tackle.
Okay.
My center, give me Jeff Saturday at the center.
Okay.
I need a right guard and a left guard.
Ah, God.
Larry Allen?
Larry Allen is the right guard.
And my left guard... Richmond Webb.
Richmond Webb was a left tackle.
He was a left tackle, right?
Okay, never mind.
I mean, you got Bruce Matthews.
You got Dwight Stevenson.
I go back and forth a little bit further
with offensive linemen than you.
But Mike Webster is probably the
Pittsburgh center.
Zach Martin just retired.
So I would take Larry Allen and John Hannah as my guards.
Right.
I would take Mike Webster as my center.
I put J.O. at left tackle.
I put Walter Jones at right tackle.
Cedric Pace at Okonoclo.
Today is my birthday.
Can I get a shout out?
Cedric, you absolutely can.
Happy birthday.
Hopefully you did something fun.
Enjoyed your day.
Maybe you got a lady or wife or whatever,
but hopefully you were able to celebrate
with family, friends, and loved ones.
Happy birthday and
many more to come.
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