Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Travis Hunter believes he can play both sides, Dolphins tired of Tyreek antics, & Geno Smith speaks on Seahawks departure!

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Travis Hunter believing he can play both sides of the ball, Dolphins tired of Tyreek’s antics, & Geno Smith on the disrespect in... Seattle! We also discuss a man facing charges for trying to kill over his ex & much more!04:25 - Travis Hunter on playing two positions24:12 - Dolphins worried about Tyreek Hill trade33:46 - Geno Smith on respect37:10 - CJ Gardner-Johnson on being traded40:18 - Every QB drafted in 2021 is on there third team, except one43:17 - Man facing charges for trying to kill over ex57:15 - Q&Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:46 Let's take a listen to what Trav had to say. Talk that talk, boy. What are you at the next level? Both, just like you saw me play. You want to do both. How many snaps in a football game can you play? All of them. If they give me the chance and the opportunity to do it.
Starting point is 00:05:03 So we were talking about the challenges that come with it. You've got to be in offensive meetings. You've got to be in defensive meetings. You've got to be in wide receiver meetings. You've got to be in defensive back meetings. How is there enough time to do all that? How did you prepare for that when you played college? Well, we kind of got 24 hours in a day.
Starting point is 00:05:19 We probably sleep for about eight of those. So we probably got 16 more. And all of them dedicated to those.. And all of them dedicated to those. Yeah, all of them dedicated to football. Ocho. Yeah. The issue is not playing both of them. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Can you play both of them well? Yeah, right, right. Because I can put anybody out there to play both sides, but how well can they play? You can play them, yeah. There's a difference. There's levels.
Starting point is 00:05:43 There have been great guys in college that couldn't play at that next level. Right. And you're asking, because see, for me, it don't do him no good. For me, for him to go out there, like, oh, he playing both sides of the ball.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Right. How well will he play both sides of the ball? Right. That's the question. Do I believe he gonna play every snap? No. No. He's not.. Do I believe he's going to play every snap? No. No. He's not.
Starting point is 00:06:08 You know what I like? What? I like the belief. I like the fact that he believes he can actually do it. Most of the time, that's where it all starts. In anything you do in life, believing that you can do it, manifesting, not only doing that, not only believing it and manifesting it, then working your way into actually being able to do it. Has it been done before? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Which is why you and I— They used to play both ways back in the 50s, the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s. I think Chuck McNerrick, rest his soul, was the last two-way player. He was a middle linebacker and a center for the Eagles. He was the last full-time two-way player. Concrete Charlie. Yeah. And I think one of the reasons why me and you and everyone else is debunking
Starting point is 00:06:51 his ability to play full-time on both sides of the ball is because of how much extreme, what's the word I'm looking for here? It's a physical grind. Because guess what, Ocho? He plays both sides of the ball. He gets hurt and miss a game. Guess what I've got? Right.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I'm down two players. Right. Oh, yeah. That too. But listen. I'm down two players, Ocho. Yeah. Listen, I like the confidence, though.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Oh, yeah, for sure. I like the confidence. That's part of it. That's half the battle is believing. In everything you do. Believe believing you can do it. What I would love for him to do is you got to focus on one thing. You got to be great at one thing. You're not going to be able to be great at both.
Starting point is 00:07:36 You can't be great at DB and great at receiver. You have to become a craftsman at one or the other. Now, I don't know which one it's going to be. Me, personally, I like him playing both. I enjoy it. I enjoy watching him play both sides of the ball. Will he be able to do it at that level, at an elite level, at the next level? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:57 That's very, very difficult. When you look at the level of talent, you're going to have to see week in and week out. That's the hard part. Yes. Because the level, the level, the level, the level field evens. Yeah. Because there are a lot of guys that are just as talented as he is. Wait, say it again?
Starting point is 00:08:21 I said there are guys that are just as talented as he is. Oh yeah, just as talented. he is. Oh, yeah, just as talented. And there'll be some that are even more talented. Everyone is just as fast. Everyone just as quick. Ladder movement, short-air quickness, no matter what you do. Everything, everybody is exactly the same. There's one thing that separates everybody.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Your technique and up here. It becomes a mental game at that point. that separates everybody. Your technique and up here. Yep. It becomes a mental game at that point. I like it though. It's exciting. I'm curious. I'm curious to see
Starting point is 00:08:52 where he goes and not only where he goes but what they allow him to do. How are they going to use him? People talking about they don't hit in the NFL. Yeah, they do. They do.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Man, please. Listen, I know the rules have changed a little bit. You know, they can't hit like they did during our day. But they're still hitting that. Yeah. They're still hitting. You know what?
Starting point is 00:09:13 I wish all the fans that say they don't hit, they would sign a waiver and go out there and say, okay, Brad Warner. Okay, who's a safety? Okay, G.J. W no. Brad Warner. No, no, no, no. Okay, who's a safety? Okay, TJ Watt. And see. No. No, no, no, Joe.
Starting point is 00:09:30 No, no, no, no, no. They said they don't hit. So I want them to go out there and see. It's one thing to watch the game from the stands. It's one thing to watch the game of football from TV. Yes. But to put on some pads as a fan and not understand
Starting point is 00:09:46 how fast the game is and how fast them mofos is moving? Man, don't do that. You'll preach it to the choir. Man, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:09:55 You played 11 years. I played 14 years. I understand the collisions. Man. And people, see, everybody thinks
Starting point is 00:10:04 something easy if you've never done it but yeah or maybe maybe they have done it um but we talk about peewee high school college but it's different it's different there's levels to this as you go up you play flag you play pop one or peewee pop one or whatever you want to call it. Then you go to JV, you go to high school, you go to college. Now, there is no higher level than the NFL.
Starting point is 00:10:34 So, all the people say, look, the NFL, hey, we'll allow you to play. We want you to sign this waiver. Whatever position you want to play. If you want to play running back, you want to play wide receiver, you want to play. If you want to play running back, you want to play wide receiver, you want to play quarterback. If they want to play it.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Man, please. Not again. We're going to have practice. Okay. Who you want to go up against? So, you want Fran Warner? You want Zaire Franklin? You want Roquan Smith? No. Okay. You want Pat Sartain? You want J Warner? You want Zaire Franklin? You want Roquan Smith? No. Okay. You want Pat Sartain?
Starting point is 00:11:06 No. You want Jalen Ramsey? You want Stingley? I'm talking about who do you want? Who do you want to guard? Who do you want to go up against? Now, just one time, and we'll say, okay, now, tell me what you think. You think they're still hitting the NFL?
Starting point is 00:11:20 Nope. And you know what? People's perspective on the game won't change until they're actually in that situation it's a situation hypothetically speaking they will never be in therefore that's why they comment the way they do from the outside looking in of course that's why they talk down on players the way they do because they've never been in that position they don't understand how difficult it is so it's easy to talk, you know, from the couch, or if you watch the game and you study the game
Starting point is 00:11:46 and have never actually played it, don't understand how difficult it is. I don't think people really understand how great Saquon Barkley is. Forget the number he's putting up. I don't think they get it. They don't understand how good Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, all these dudes that they talk about,
Starting point is 00:12:06 you know, on Twitter and X, and they don't understand how good these dudes are. Oh, I'm not saying that you can't catch, but I'm saying catch the ball when a dude gonna drill you. We have to focus. We have to lock in on the ball. Bring it in. Man,
Starting point is 00:12:22 come on, man. There's so many that man. Hey, Ocho, they don't hit no more. Man, come on, man. There's so many that may, man. Hey, Ocho, they don't hit no more. I tell you what, we're going to hand the ball off, and we're going to block it just like we would if that was Derrick Henry or Saquon running the football. We're not going to turn him loose on you. We're going to block it all the same.
Starting point is 00:12:39 And, man, you remember this. And when they block it all the same, there's always one free man that the running back has to beat. because the quarterback is not blocking anybody yeah always one man at the court that the running back has to be and that's your man you got to beat him on your own it's different man and you got on pads i mean you you're not used to juking nobody hey as a matter of fact you see the guy from the Hawks? They had two guys that he went to lay the ball up and he ended up tearing his knee. For real?
Starting point is 00:13:13 Yes. You talking about like a halftime? Yes. You know how they have a competition. You got to make so many points. One guy on one end, one guy on the other end. They gave him five, four, three. He got the ball, went to lay it up.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Reel him up out of the wheelchair. But that's funny. Once the thing is, I don't think people realize when people like, well, damn, man, you're bigger than I thought. You don't look that big on TV. Right. Hell, I'm small compared to a tight end. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And then you multiply that. I got run at full speed. If you ain't never been used to taking no hit or you haven't taken a hit in a while. You're not taking the blows. No, not at all. As I got older, I didn't want to look. I was a guy. I would take a lick. I're not taking the blows. No, not at all. Because as I got older, I didn't want to, look, I was a guy, I would take a lick.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I would, hey, okay, I'm cool. And bounce right back up. If I got older, I started getting year 12, 13, 14, I put that blink on, little Joe. Blink on, blink on. You don't know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Hey, little Joe, I hear right on the bottom. I ain't taking that lick no more. Yeah. I'm good. Listen, as you get older, you get by the year 10 and on, you make business decisions. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Hey. Put that blink on, hit on out of bounds. Hey, turn it up. No, I'm good. Hey, Ocho, it's second and one. If we can't get second and one, third to one, I don't know the team. I laid the ball, okay, pour them down, something like that, okay, I get you.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Right. Hey, back in the day, Ocho, two guys coming. Okay, you over here, you over here. Okay, I split you. You split them? Yeah. Yeah. I think you're the lesser of the danger. Let me get you.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Let me get you. I will get you. Back inside, that's a problem. You, not a problem. Right. But I'm really anxious to see Travis give it a go, playing both sides. It's important where he goes. It's very, very, very, very important where he goes.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I hope the team that drafts him understand his beliefs, understands his wants, and they use him in that manner because he's an exciting player he's a generational talent and they need to be able to use him in a manner so he's able to display that at the next level the same way he did at Colorado I'm not so sure it's not more of a mental than a physical focus because you have to be on your a game all the time especially Especially on defense. Because, you know, sometimes the wide receiver, you're not getting the ball, so I ain't really got to focus. They ain't throwing me the ball. I'm lasting
Starting point is 00:16:09 the progression. But as a defensive player, as a corner, you lie. You have one slip, Ocho. You hesitate a little bit. You got to smell the deodorant. Oh, yeah. Strike up the band.
Starting point is 00:16:26 That's it. And now you're coming. Hey, hey, and what everybody do after they get a touchdown, what they do, Ocho? They look up at the jump,
Starting point is 00:16:34 Ocho, yeah, that's you. That's you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We just saw that. Yeah, when you look at him, yeah, that's you. Mm-hmm. But I'm anxious
Starting point is 00:16:42 to see what he can do. He believes he can do it yeah do i believe he can play every snap offensive defense i don't do i think he can play one side and then they have packages i believe it's easier if he's a db for them to install packages at the wide receiver position i believe that's easier but let him try it yeah Yeah. I like it. And you're drafting him knowing that's what he wants to do. One of the reasons he went with time, time told him he would let him do it. I'll let you do whatever you can do.
Starting point is 00:17:17 He showed time he could do it. He did it. He won the Heisman Trophy. One of the great seasons of the wide receiver. He had, what, 13, 14 under yards? A DB. He had a bunch of pass breakups. Had a forced fumble. Key interceptions.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Good tackler. Oh, he going to come up and tackle. Let's see what he can do. No problem whatsoever. I think you have to give him that. Deep down, he's going to feel some type of way. Right. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Let me see what he got. Listen, you knew what I wanted before I got here. I expressed my interest in it. I've said it over and over and over countless times. And you bring me in. You draft me this high, wherever it may be. And then when I get here, you tell me, well, we don't think you. You know how they play that game, Monk. Well, we don't think you.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Well, we think you're better suited at. on now don't don't don't play that game somebody tell me he would love that opportunity so where do you think he goes on show yeah where do you think trav goes i don't know cleveland the giants i don't know listen when you the Giants, I don't know. Listen, when you talk about Cleveland, they need a quarterback. When you talk about the Giants, they need a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:18:29 So I don't think any of those two teams are not passing up on Shador or Cam Ward. Now, listen, somebody might come up from low and surprise us on draft day and come and grab a quarterback early and then it frees up the door somewhere else we keep forgetting we're not even talking about abdul
Starting point is 00:18:50 carter hell who's to say he don't go first you know i it's you just don't know especially with those four ain't no telling how it's gonna go but i know he's gonna go in the top five i just don't know where and who knows what's going to happen on draft day with some other team and some conversation that they might feel a player is up there that might be a generational talent and a franchise-changing player to them. And they go up and snatch him and chain the draft all the way up. According to Adam Schefter, the Browns are more likely to pick Travis Hunter at two in the draft. He impressed Cleveland at his pro day.
Starting point is 00:19:29 The Browns are exploring a potential taking Travis Hunter at two, then trading back into the first round to land Jalen Milrow. It's possible that Milrow could be picked around with their second pick, but it would be gambling. Enter the season with Kenny Pick kenny pickett fqb1 milrow was invited and he has accepted an invitation to the nfl draft you think is is he milrow had the chance to go in the first round you think that's what they're saying oh joey just i don't i don't like that man i don't like when they i
Starting point is 00:20:04 don't like when they bring players in and have them sitting there like that all day and ain't no telling where you're going to go. It's not for certain you're going in the first round. They put the camera on you while everybody's getting picked. I don't like that. That's embarrassing to me, man. I would be cautious. Right. And let me tell
Starting point is 00:20:22 you why I'm cautious. I'm cautious because I watch Anthony Richardson. And I watch a supremely guy that size run 4'5", 4'4", whatever he ran, jump out of the gym. Well, he's a 50 plus percent completion guy in college. College NFL is harder to get completions than the end of the, than college. Right. If you're 50 in college,
Starting point is 00:20:50 you see he was 46. Richardson was 46. There are times I'm looking at mirror. I'm like, bro, what are, what was that? Now I'm not saying that with some time,
Starting point is 00:21:01 but how much time are you going to give it? Right. Cause you're going to Cleveland, bro. They're going to need you to be at least by year two. You got to go. You're going to need to be ready to go. You got to go. Because Jimmy and Dee Haslam, they look, look, we bit the bullet on this one. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:21:19 With Deshaun. We gave up three first-round picks. One of them was C.J. Stroud. One of them was Will Anderson Jr. And the other one was Tank Dale. That's crazy. Oh, that's crazy. One was offensive rookie of the year. The other was
Starting point is 00:21:35 defensive rookie of the year. And they both gone to the Pro Bowl. Now, we bit the bullet on them. We signed off on Deshaun. But you brought that to us. Now, we just gave,
Starting point is 00:21:51 what you call them, 140 million, 160 million, whatever we gave Miles Garrett. We took Trav. We traded back into the first round, which means that we're possibly going to have to give up
Starting point is 00:22:03 next year's first round. Okay. Listen, the Browns have been missing for a long time on their first round picks. They've been missing for a long time. I know one thing. They can't miss if they go with Travis Hunter. You can't miss. No.
Starting point is 00:22:24 You won't miss. Now, they miss with quarterbacks, but you can't you can't miss no you won't miss now they miss they miss the quarterbacks but you're not gonna miss there so it's i i'm ready for it to say i'm ready for to see how this thing play i'm trying to i'm trying i'm tired of trying to play expert and like oh he's going here he's going there because you don't know you don't like you said somebody might come zooming up the draft board because somebody's like, oh, he ain't get selected. Oh, I can get him here. Right.
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Starting point is 00:27:50 They were getting tired of that. We talked about it. Listen, I think Tyreek ain't slow. He's pretty smart. If you know they're tired of it and you keep on doing it, what does that tell you? He doing it on what? He doing it on what? He doing it on what?
Starting point is 00:28:06 You think he doing it on purpose? Yeah. Absolutely, at this point. Absolutely. TikTok, you know, some of the stuff he's doing. Well, he's the one that's talking about, oh, define that your team trying to trade him. You're the one, the last game of the season,
Starting point is 00:28:19 you talk about your peace side, you got to go do what's best for you. I don't like when people become a victim in their own story. Right. Be a victim in someone else's story. You can't be a victim in a story that you created. You created this. You wanted out of Kansas City
Starting point is 00:28:35 a situation that you... Wait, he wanted to get paid. He wanted to get paid. That's all. They were going to pay him, but you got to realize Tyreek had years left on the contract. Yeah. Now, when they came to him and they asked him when he restructured, he said, no, I don't believe it. I signed the contract.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Then the next year, he wanted to redo his contract. Right. Even though he had said the year before he signed the contract. I got no problem with that. Yes, sir. You go to a guy that was injury prone. Ocho, tell the people at home, how did Tua come into the league? He limped into the league.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Remember, he fractured his hip his last year. In college, yes, sir. He was injury prone in college. Right. They're not nearly as physical as they are in the NFL. So what do you think is going to happen, Ocho? You're going to deal with some injuries here at the next
Starting point is 00:29:24 level. So now, and then you go look I get it you know you A but you tried to sell us ain't nobody believe that Tua was on the home level not his accuracy not his being able to throw none of that
Starting point is 00:29:40 okay you want to hype your quarterback up you're like hey I believe in him we get all of that you played the wide receiver position I started You're like, hey, I believe in him. We get all of that. You played the wide receiver position. I started wide receiver with the tight end. I get it. I want to give my guy confidence, let you know I believe in him. But I'm trying to figure out, Ocho, what is it?
Starting point is 00:29:59 Like you said, his first year there, he was second in the league in receiving. The second year there, first year there, he was second in the league in receiving league receiving the next year there he was one of the few guys that's ever had 1800 receiving yards last year he was Nick it got up to a bad start he started the first game
Starting point is 00:30:12 of the season Ocho with the traffic stopping so forth and so on I don't really know what happened but hey bro I oh lord
Starting point is 00:30:21 I just don't get these guys on show I don't get them hey listen you never know what's going to happen all that stuff is going on you know Tyreek is not happy obviously he's continues to do
Starting point is 00:30:33 what he does on social media probably trying to egg on a trade in that manner in a fun entertaining way you know using TikTok then you have the draft coming up ain't no telling
Starting point is 00:30:44 what's going to happen draft day ain't no telling so you know something might happen there you know, using TikTok. Then you have the draft coming up, huh? Ain't no telling what's going to happen draft day. Ain't no telling. So, you know, something might happen there. You know, it changed things up. I'm just, like, that's what's so exciting to me because you just don't know. Yeah. You just don't know. There's nobody for certain. You
Starting point is 00:30:59 know what? He was so great in college. He's absolutely going number one. You just don't know yeah uh who who are you talking about going number one oh joe i man oh you talking about oh you oh yeah i'm saying yeah you just you just you don't know it could be Listen Tennessee Tennessee need a quarterback Don't they Yes I mean I don't know man
Starting point is 00:31:30 Ain't no telling I think the thing is Ocho This is what we see Yeah No matter how great you are They'll move your ass Oh yeah And they'll
Starting point is 00:31:39 Because they're not gonna let you Become bigger than the team Not only bigger than the team They won't let you become Bigger the team. Not only bigger than the team, they won't let you become bigger than the game itself. No. No. Because Kansas City, they traded Tyreek and went to three straight Super Bowls.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Yeah. They won two. You got to understand why they went to three. They got that special dude over there too. So what did that tell you? Why receivers ain't doing nothing without what? No matter who he is. Quarterback.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Tyreek had 1,800 yards. Waddle had another 1,200. Did they win a playoff game? Mm-mm. I was just talking about the Super Bowl factor, but I got you. No, you better have that guy to pull that trigger. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:25 You better have him. Mm-hmm. It's L.O. Because think about it. All those years, New England, how many Pro Bowl wide receivers they had? If you take Randy Moss out of the equation, Wes Welker, I think Troy Brown went to one. But I don't think Troy, I could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I don't know if Troy went with Brady. I think he went maybe a year before Brady. Maybe I'm wrong. But if you go back and study it, Ojo, they have a whole lot of Pro Bowl wide receivers. That's why people really fell in love with Tom. They're like, they've been going to all these Super Bowls, and they got all these stuff,
Starting point is 00:33:07 wide receiver here, wide receiver here, wide receiver over there, Pro Bowl, All-Pro, and he doing that. You better have that guy. Yeah. You better have him.
Starting point is 00:33:16 It makes a difference. It's the reason they make the big bucks. It makes a big difference. Oh, yeah. He's the foundation. If you get him, Ocho, I can build. If I got a solid foundation, I can put whatever I want on it.
Starting point is 00:33:32 If I got a great foundation, I can put a 20,000 square foot home or I can put a thousand square foot home. My foundation's solid and it can hold it all. Well, foundation is so important in all aspects of life. It is.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Huh? Well, you just said a word there and don't even know you said it. I get Gronk was there, but y'all do realize that Brady went to how many Super Bowls before Gronk arrived? Mm. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Don't minimize that, man. Gronk is, hey, Gronk for me is one of the two best tight ends. Some people got Gronk one. Some people got Kelsey. I got Kelsey. Hey, I'll debate you. Look at the regular season.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Look at the postseason. Blah, blah, blah, so forth and so on. But, Tom, come on now. All I know is Deion Branch won Super Bowl MVP. Yeah. He went to Seattle, and we never heard from him. David Patton. Y'all know where David Patton went after he left New England?
Starting point is 00:34:42 Nobody look at the receivers that he had early in his career. Yes, he hasn't. When they left New england did you ever hear from them again he take it undrafted y'all do realize wes worker was an undrafted guy y'all do realize edelman was a seventh roundround guy. What round did Amendola get drafted in? Because I think he went to the Rams first, Ocho, if I'm not mistaken. I think Amendola was with the Rams first, if I'm not mistaken. That man was really turning. Look, they were good players, but I don't know if they're going to be what they became. Without being there.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Wow. So he was an undrafted free agent. Who? Amendola. Hey, Amendola was nice too, huh? He was the Cowboys, then the Eagles, then the Rams. He was nice. Get David Gibbons.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Do y'all remember what David Gibbons went once he left New England? What about David Patton? Deion Branch was a Super Bowl MVP. He went to Seattle. Did y'all ever hear from him again? Yeah. Edelman was a quarterback, Ocho. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:16 At Kent State. Kent State, yeah. I just look. I don't. Ocho. 7-11. Chris Hogan. Your guy.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Oh, always open. Buffalo Bills. Yeah, 7-11.ven. Chris Hogan. Yo guy. Oh, always open. Buffalo Bills. Yeah, 7-Eleven. Yeah, he ain't with the Dolphins. What, he undrafted? He was like a lacrosse or a field hockey player or something. Hey, he was nice. He was nice.
Starting point is 00:36:37 He was nice when he got with Brady. He was nice. Goddamn Chris Hogan. That's a good one now. Undrafted. Undrafted Wes Welker. Undrafted Julian Edelman. Undrafted Chris Hogan.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Seventh-round draft pick Julian Edelman. Quarterback makes a big difference. Yeah. New Raiders quarterback Geno Smith spoke about leaving Seattle. He said said you're talking about a quarterback who wants not only to get paid every player wants to get paid but to be respected that's the most important thing that's the respect it's the respect factor and I just felt like there was a disconnect there I'm curious what that was because whatever it was, they kept that internally. I want to get paid. We don't want to pay you. That's the disconnect.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Okay. That's a good one. That's a good one. Hey, listen. That's the best way to put it, but the fact that he conducted himself like a pro, like you just said, we didn't hear people about it. And most of the time when it comes to quarterbacks, you never do hear about it because they always conduct themselves in the right manner because they
Starting point is 00:37:47 don't want to mess up the bag somewhere else oh joe she wants to get married you don't want to get married there's a disconnect yeah what's the disconnect she want to get married i didn't i didn't yeah there's a disconnect money seems you know what? Money seems to have a lot of disconnect. It does. Man, I just had a disconnect at the job. I wanted to raise. They didn't want to give it to me. They didn't raise, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:13 So what? What are we doing, Ocho? Yeah, you're right. Hey, but like I said, I'm confused by this. Because for me, you look at it. I think Geno's better than Sam Darnold. Me, that's me personally. Look at his body of work.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Yeah. Mm-hmm. You could have had Geno for the same price, but you'd rather have somebody, an unproven guy. Now, I get it. If I'm not mistaken, I think they hired Clint Kubiak to be the coordinator in Seattle. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Clint. I mean, hey. I think they hired Clint Kubiak to be the coordinator in Seattle. Right. Clint? I mean, hey. I think they did hire Clint. Hold on. Because they got two sons, both of them OCs, Clint and Klein. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I don't care. I don't care who you got calling the plays.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I don't care about who you brought in. I know who you didn't bring in. You ain't bringing number 18 and number three from Minnesota. You ain't got that. I guess this, Ocho, they said, look, we brought in the same offense. A guy that he used to hear in his ear. You get rid of DK.
Starting point is 00:39:12 You release Lockett. So you only got JSN. JSN. Maybe they're going to take a receiver, Ocho. I don't know. They got Noah Fant. They got K-9. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:39:23 What receiver you've seen in the draft this year coming up that is even close to that of Jordan Addison or Justin Jefferson? Now, we got some good ones now. We got some good ones. Do we have franchise-changing receivers coming in the draft? Wherever you are, he's the first or second best receiver in football. Okay, most people are going to have Chase based on what he's done, he did last year. But Jefferson, you look at his body of work,
Starting point is 00:39:48 he's no worse than two right now. He's no worse than two, Ochoa. Right, right. You got Chase, I just saw Chase this weekend. But I, hey, but you're right, Ochoa, but you know how it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Just like players believe the grass is greener, teams do too. Teams believe that they can just plug anybody in there or we can get the same results. No, absolutely not. They do. I understand that they do, but it doesn't work. It doesn't work half the time. No, it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:40:19 So, guess what? We'll find out. Mm-hmm. CJ Gardner-Johnson. That's my guy. Mm-hmm. CJ Gardner Johnson. That's my guy. Talks about being traded from Philly. Nephew. People showed me their true colors when I got traded.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Bro. Yeah. You know how fans are. Fans are... Hold on. Oh, sure. What you mean? The fans ain't traded?
Starting point is 00:40:43 How we did? Yeah. Well, you know how the fans... How we... And guess what? The fans ain't traded? Howie did. Yeah. But you know how to pay me. And guess what? The fans are not going to be upset. Because look at Howie's track record. Look at how he's drafted. Look at the free agents that he's brought in.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Right. So, they're going to give him the benefit of the doubt. If you're trying to sway public opinion against Harry Roseman, that man… Oh, look up. You're going to lose that. against Harry Roseman, that man, oh, look up. You're going to lose that. He brought in Saquon. He traded for A.J. Brown. He got Devontae.
Starting point is 00:41:14 He drafted Jalen Hurts. He drafted Landon Dickerson. He's read Ma Lada. Bro, you're not finna win that battle. Yeah. Braun, who was a pass rushing guy at New Orleans. He brought him in and he's an all pro and he got paid. Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Blankenship, DeJuan.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Bro, what's his name? Mitchell. What is it? Mitchell? What's the cornerback name? Keon. Keon. Keon.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Keon Mitchell. Keon Mitchell. Yeah. He's nice. Bro, I get it. I get it. Look, you came back and you played really well, bro. Very well.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Kudos, bro. You got to look at it like this, bro. You're still in the league and you're getting a check. Mm-hmm. Listen, and for the most part, the fans and family, they show them love. They show them love because they understand what he's done, you know, for that organization and how well he's played. So they've always shown him love. They show him love because they understand what he's done, what he's done, you know, for that organization and how well he's played.
Starting point is 00:42:06 So they've always shown him love. So, listen, I'm happy for my nephew, man. He's going to be all right. He's going to be all right. Hold on. I need some drinks. You know it's tough, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:42:16 You there. You know you're going to win. They're in a great situation. And then, what did they trade him to? They trade him to Houston? What did they trade him to? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Oh, he over there with Stroud, man. Yeah. Listen, he over there with Stroud, man. Yeah, okay. Listen, he over there with, listen, he, to me, now I'm not going to say he went to a better defensive team, but you ain't over there with no slouches. You got Stingley. That young. Will Anderson Jr., you got Danell Hunter.
Starting point is 00:42:40 What's the young boy, the DB, the rookie from last year? DB? Yes. Boy, he the real deal. I can't remember his first and last name. He was the real deal. He was cutting a fool in training camp and cutting a fool all season long. Man, be
Starting point is 00:42:59 balling. I think he was number 14 or he was number four. I can't remember what number he was. Okay, I know what you're talking about. Man. He made some plays. Yeah, he made some plays. I don't know his name, Ochoa, off the top of my head, but I know what you're talking about. Hey, boy, he is nice. And I promise you, after today, I won't forget his name. I'm parched.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Let me get something to drink real quick. Hold on. They say Lasseter. Yeah, that's him. Lasseter. He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he. Yeah, that's the lesson. Wow. Every quarterback in the 2021 first round, besides Trevor Lawrence, is on their third NFL team. Zach Wilson, Jets, Broncos, Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Trey Lance, 49ers, Cowboys, Chargers. Justin Fields, Bears, Steelers, Jets. Mack Jones, Patriots, Jags, 49ers. It was 2021, the worst draft class in NFL history. It's up there, Ocho. It is up there, but also, listen, again, I'm going to say it again, like you always say, it's very important where you go. Look at the situation Zach Wilson went into.
Starting point is 00:44:21 I mean, who could have lost? I don't think Zach Wilson had one good year. And the Jets had their mind made up they're taking him. Right. Trey Lance had one good year. Right. He had that at FCS. Mm-hmm. I think I'm going to need to see a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:44:38 More? Right. Okay. Justin Fields. I think Justin Fields' situation, I think Justin being at the Bears, I just like when, it's tough, Ocho, because when guys come in, you want somebody to protect them.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Defensive coaches normally going to run the football and play to their defense, but if that's what you're going to do, get somebody that understands what a talent that Justin Fields is. Yes, sir. And then Matt Jones, I think Coach Belichick did him a huge disservice. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:12 The second year. Because the first year when he had Josh McDaniel, he was sensational. They went to the playoffs. He went to the Pro Bowl. And then you bring in, you get Matt Patricia and you get Joe Judge in
Starting point is 00:45:28 his ear. Neither has ever called plays for an offensive player. Neither has really worked on that side of the football. So I thought they did him a huge disservice. I really did. Now, I thought he played some good moments with the Jags. I think he'll be really good with the
Starting point is 00:45:43 49ers because that offense is tailored to him. Get the ball out of your head because I don't think his arm, he's not the strongest arm, but I don't think Brock Purdy has a cannon. And that offense is all about precision.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Brock Purdy, very accurate. Very accurate. So, but it's a bad draft class, Ocho. I mean, Ocho, that's just 21, 22, 23, 24. That's five years. And the quarterbacks. Three different teams. Damn.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Three different teams. But guess what? Yeah. They're still getting checks. Listen, those checks are not as big as they want, but they're still coming in. That's all that matters. Ocho, check this out. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:46:33 A man in the U.S. has been arrested and charged with six counts of attempted homicide after allegedly traveling more than 1,000 miles and setting fire to the home of a man who had been communicating with his ex-girlfriend. Hold on. He's supposed to check the girl? He ain't supposed to check nothing. Ex. Ex.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Oh, ex. Yeah, you ain't supposed to check nothing. Man, listen, man. I'm going about my business, man. I'm going about your business, man. I don't understand man I don't understand I don't understand I don't understand how people be crashing out by people
Starting point is 00:47:09 Whether they be long Even if you with somebody Yeah And a guy has the ability to gain access To the person that you with What does that tell you? Why am I crashing out About
Starting point is 00:47:23 Her allowing you to have access That lets me know where i'm staying it's easy move on that's it's not hard i don't understand why it's so hard to wrap that around our head because every time we start dealing with people we add a title to it we add relationship we add marriage uh situationship no matter what it is and for to it we add relationship we add marriage uh situation ship no matter what it is and for some reason we as men we view that as my property or ownership that individual miles oh joe huh do you know how far a thousand miles is man you ain't got to tell me that i don't own you i you're not my property if we're together i appreciate that and i'm moving based off how you move yeah it's pretty easy when things look funny to you make it a comedy show it's simple
Starting point is 00:48:18 that's how you keep from getting yourself hurt so other words, when they start acting funny, I might as well, hey, get me a big nose and some red shoes because I'm going to be a clown too. Make it a comedy show because they will make a fool of you and then play victim. Hey, you remember the song
Starting point is 00:48:39 Michelle and Dagocello in Love and Basketball? Oh, yeah. You make a fool of me. Tell me why you say that. Wait. But we made love just last night. She sing that song?
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yes. Wait a minute. Oh, hell. Why you tell me that? Hold on, huh? What's the name of the song? I want to kiss you. I'm going to put that in my library.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Just want you with the pain that I do. I smell you in my dreams. Ooh. But now when we're face to face, you won't look me in the eye. Come on. No more friendship. No more love. You say I can't touch you.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Uh-huh. I can't touch you. No more. Yeah. Oh, man. Listen can't touch you no more. Yeah. Oh, man. Listen. What's the title?
Starting point is 00:49:28 What's the title of the song? You Make a Fool of Me. Huh? Love and Basketball. You Make a Fool of Me? Yes. Michelle and Diego Cello. Hold on, hold on. There it is.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Fool of Me right there. I'm finna add it to my library right now. Does she want you with the pain that I do? I'm going to add it to my library right now. Does she want you with the pain that I do? Let that sink in, Ocho. Does this person that you want to be with, does she want you with the pain that I do? Because I can smell you in my dreams. Hey, if you take it slow when you listen to what you said, you got to feel that.
Starting point is 00:50:11 You got to feel that. That's, Ocho, every song that this woman sings, it resonates with me because I know I'm a very passionate person. Yes, sir. With. I know how you feel. Take your time now. Yes, sir. With. Woo. I know how you feel. Take your time, man. Take your time.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I told you when. When old girl played that song for me, Ocho. Uh-huh. Trust. That's how you get to me. You play a song and I'm never going to forget it. Right, right. trust. That's how you get to me. You play a song and I'm never going to forget it. Right, right. I just,
Starting point is 00:50:52 and when I, the first time I heard that woman's voice and every time that she's close to me, I go see her. I went to see her at the Tabernacle.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I went to see her like twice at the Tabernacle. I've seen her in LA. I've seen her in Colorado. I i've seen it in i've seen it three or four times in atlanta and a lot of times i'm probably the only straight male there is a lot of a lot of women that that that love that that love yes yes sir yes sir it's like that huh oh man Oh, man And she The soundtrack Love drones Uh-huh She on there too?
Starting point is 00:51:29 Yes If you feel the way I feel for you Rush over the name Of the song Her and Marcus Miller Right She got a song
Starting point is 00:51:38 With John Cougar Man, look at Chat, y'all will know So I'm telling y'all now If y'all say Man, who's Shelly'all now if y'all say man who's sharing a shot ain't no question don't even ask michelle and daniel cello that's live if you feel the way i feel i'll rush over there's no reason to be alone my thoughts for you patiently i wait for an invitation
Starting point is 00:52:05 I often imagine you come on now a picture that you're no more a voice than on my telephone that I find myself rushing home to oh man
Starting point is 00:52:15 hey by all that mercy hey man don't talk man don't give me so much yeah you're gonna have
Starting point is 00:52:21 me fly I can hear I can hear the passion I can hear the enthusiasm in your voice It sounds like you're hurting You're not hurting are you? No
Starting point is 00:52:29 Music make you think about certain people Yes So who do you think about? Beautiful Bitter Dead End Boulevard Faithful Mary Magdalene yeah uh come on man take i gotta take your time man look here take your time man oh i'm telling you a lot of times i would and
Starting point is 00:53:02 people like man what you do i'm listening to michelle and dago cello i'm listening to maxwell silently it's probably my favorite song from maxwell uh this woman's work uh i'm trying to think of the song hold on what's the name of the song symptoms unknown by maxwell uh-huh symptoms unknown symptoms are symptoms unknown symptoms unknown symptoms unknown what movie what movie is that? Is that from a soundtrack? No. Actually, I said that many, many years ago.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I tried to win her back. You know what I'm saying? Whoa, whoa, whoa. I tried to win her back. I tried to win her back. I tried to win her back. Hold on, hold on. You ain't tell us this story.
Starting point is 00:54:01 I tried to win her back. I tried to win her back. You lost somebody? Was it something that you did and you tried to win a back? No, it wasn't something that I did. Right, right. I was just bull-jobbing around. Oh, you playing a game?
Starting point is 00:54:13 You playing a game? And what happened was, I was just dribbling. Dude stole the ball and shot it. And it went in. Got me. So, this song, I said, look, I went and bought her a CD,
Starting point is 00:54:27 I saw her someplace, I bought her a CD, and I handed it to her. I said, there are two songs I want you to listen to. I want you to listen to it silently, and I want you to listen
Starting point is 00:54:36 to Symptoms Unknown. Okay. She said, Shannon, I'm getting married. Oh! Oh! She say, Shanna? Mm-hmm. I'm getting married. Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 00:54:57 Hey. Hey, uh, that hurt me, and that wasn't even me. So. She was bad, too. She was bad. I know that hurt me, and that wasn't even me. So, she was bad, too. I know that hurt, huh? That hurt? How that made you feel, huh? I know that hurt. I can't get mad at results I didn't get for the work I didn't put in.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Don't do that. Don't you do that. Don't you? Hold on. I'm going to throw you up, baby. Y'all know how I am. I cue it to you straight. Hold on. I'm 1,000. Don't you do that. Don't you hold on. I'm afraid y'all know how I am. I cue it to you straight. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I'm 1,000. I'm honest with you. Now, do give it to me. Hey, Chad, Chad, do me a favor. Somebody listen to what he says real quick and then type and write it to me on Twitter. Bring that to me one more time. Yeah. I can't get mad at the results I didn't get for the work I didn't put in.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Had I done what he had done, maybe the situation, who knows? But I didn't do what I was supposed to do. Ocho, y'all know me, chat. Y'all follow me, anything. If y'all know anything about Shannon Sharp, I'm going to accept responsibility. That's all I know how to do. If I'm wrong, I got to be mad enough to say that. That's one thing Mary Porter believed in that.
Starting point is 00:56:07 My grandfather believed in that. I believe they did a great job of raising their nine and raising their mom. My graph, my mom's three. I can never be mad. I'm never going to be mad. At results. I didn't get for the work.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I didn't put in. That's why I do this. i do now oh joe and i tell i tell people when i go talk and i say hard work doesn't guarantee you anything but without it you don't have a chance at all you see if i don't put it see if i don't if i put the hard work in and i don't get the result that i'm hoping for okay that wasn't for me but i never want to have regrets it man if i had just worked harder, if I had just done this, you'll never meet anybody. You won't meet one person
Starting point is 00:56:49 that will tell you Shannon Sharp didn't work hard. God, I love that quote, boy. That's all. That was good. That's all I know how to do. But I do. I spend a lot of time with Ocho. Sometimes I'll just start cleaning up.
Starting point is 00:57:09 And I'll put Michelle and Diego Chelo on, and I'll just play. Just go. I'll listen to Maxwell. I'll listen to Sade. I'll just listen to Atlantic Star. I mean, I just like, and it just like, okay. It's going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Hey, I got a question. Do you have a playlist already with some of your favorite songs when you're cleaning up? I do. You got to send me that playlist, man. I got to check this out. I got to check this out. That's good. That's some good music, man.
Starting point is 00:57:40 That's some good music. Oh, yeah. I just, like I said I'm just I'm just a guy look if I'm wrong I'm wrong
Starting point is 00:57:48 and I missed opportunities I mean I see people now that you know gotten married and some women be honest
Starting point is 00:57:54 women say Shannon look you good to have fun with you're not the marrying type so you they viewed you as the fun guy
Starting point is 00:58:02 because they know they say Shannon work is way more important than any relationship is gonna be for you okay So you, hey, they viewed you as the fun guy. Because they know, they say, Shannon, work is way more important than any relationship is going to be for you. Okay. Yeah, but that's, that's,
Starting point is 00:58:13 that's. Your greatest enjoyment comes from work. Nothing brings you pleasure like work. Right. But that doesn't even put you in the category of the fun guy too. That's not. Ocho, they look at me, I'm aesthetically, you category of the fun guy, too. That's not the category. Ocho, they look at me
Starting point is 00:58:25 aesthetically, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm built like a centaur. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I'm built like that. All they be, they know when they get on shit. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:02:06 As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.
Starting point is 01:03:12 To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. all right Ocho it's time for our final segment Q and A hey I enjoyed it
Starting point is 01:03:34 I enjoyed that night that was good that was good that was really good god damn that was good Kipper Norwood Jr. said uh i disagree with dan olavsky with this take on first take this morning about cowboys they won't be in the playoffs next season and psa usa florida uh you at ps us florida bay go away lake of the five okay psa usa florida bay go away lakeakers and five. Okay. PSA, USA, Florida Bay, go away. Lakers and five. Dio said he believed the Cowboys are going to be better than what they were last year. And my question,
Starting point is 01:04:13 Stephen, a question to him. Okay. What do you mean better? Are they going to win a game? Are they going to be in the playoffs? Are they going to make a deep run in the playoffs? What do you mean better? Don't just say better. What do you mean better don't just say better what do you mean by better because i'm looking at it what do they do that's gonna put them in front of the eagles what are they gonna do that's gonna put them in front of the uh uh the commanders right now that's two teams that's in your division now unless you tell me three teams are going from that division i said not but he said uh he said the Eagles are better, the Commanders are better, Tampa is better,
Starting point is 01:04:50 Detroit's better, Green Bay is better, the Rams are better. Yeah. I said, bro, that's six teams right there. Yeah. Only takes seven?
Starting point is 01:05:00 Mm-hmm. And the funny thing about all the teams you've named about all the teams you've named, all the teams you've named made immediate changes last year to improve on both sides of the ball. Can I ask you what the Cowboys have done to improve on both sides of the ball since last year? Nothing.
Starting point is 01:05:19 They done nothing to improve. Being honest, they ain't done anything. King's Journey, Ocho. done nothing to prove it. Be it odd or dead, it done anything. King's Journey, Ocho, can I hold one of them cigars K-Mart been to send you? Go Gators.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Hey, boy, listen, I can't wait to get them. What you want, one of them lunatics? Listen, them Daniel Marshall cigars? I want them on them
Starting point is 01:05:38 $300 cigars. No, no, no, you can't do that. You can't do that. Come on, Ocho, let your boy smoke. You don't even smoke cigars. I tell you what,
Starting point is 01:05:45 don't worry about it. Send me my money. Let me go upstairs right quick. I got something for you. Okay, I got you can't do that. You can't do that. Come on, Charlie. I spoke. You don't even smoke cigars. Don't worry about it. Send me my money. Let me go upstairs right quick. I got something for you. Okay, I got you. I got you. Hey, listen. This man owe me $5,200.
Starting point is 01:05:56 I ask him for a $300 cigar. He go to my... Okay, okay. I got you. Listen, listen. I had to buy furniture today from a new place. I had to buy furniture today. So I'm going to get you $5,200, right?
Starting point is 01:06:07 I'm going to get it to you. Where we at? We in April? Yeah. Before we start a live show, I promise you the live show in Baltimore, I'm going to play you live on stage. You said that in New Orleans. I know.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I did. First of all, you were supposed to send me the money before we even got to the live show. But you didn't want to get no Apple Pay or Cash App or Zelle or Venmo. I told you, you could have had it right there. You could have had it right there on the spot, but you wanted to be difficult.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Ocho, I don't have that. I don't have that on my phone. Download the app. It takes two seconds. I could have been sent your money. You ain't really want it. I want it. Cash. Oh, okay. You want cash?
Starting point is 01:06:57 Money talk. Cash screams. Okay. Ah! Ocho, pay me! I promise you. Hey, Baltimore, live show. Before the show starts, I'm going to pay you $5,200. okay I want your baby I promise you hey Baltimore live show before the show starts I want to pay you
Starting point is 01:07:09 $5,200 I want I want to smoke I want to smoke uh uh what they call what are they called
Starting point is 01:07:17 Daniel Marshall Daniel Marshall Daniel Marshall 24 karat 24 karat all gold cigar beautiful too so Penny Marshall was on Laverne and Laverne and Shirley.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Let me tell you something. When the ashes, when they burn, the ashes be gold. What? Man, it's a beautiful thing, huh? Yeah, I want one of them. It's the reason they cost $300 a pop. Yeah, yeah. Hey, they say Zell shut down, so I wouldn't have been able to get my money.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Yeah, if Zell ain't shut down, what are they talking about? Ain't nothing wrong with Zelle. I thought one of them cash apps had a... Are them cash apps still going? Cash app, Zelle, Venmo, PayPal, Apple Pay, cash app. I want OchoPay. Where is that? How can I download that app
Starting point is 01:08:05 Hey where is that app Hey well that's funny that boy Chat y'all heard this man This man say I asked this man For a $300 cigar Nah I said okay Nah that ain't what you said at first. I didn't hear you at first.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Man, I'm about to run up on this man and get my money, man. Oh, Chad. Hey, y'all, it's already day to day. This man bought $21,000 worth of furniture and put it on social media. He's throwing his nose up at me. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You are.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Hold on, hold on, hold on. I was telling people that moving is expensive and getting furniture. Now, that was just my living room set. So I still got to finish the rest of the house. Ocho,
Starting point is 01:08:59 chat, don't y'all think Ocho's throwing his nose up at me? Nah. This man, this man buying furniture. He said he just spent $21,000 on living room. No bedroom, no dinette, no kitchen.
Starting point is 01:09:12 He owe me $5,200. Hold on, but that's what- But he got $21,000 to spend? But you got to understand, that's what's prolonging me sending your money because I have to make sure my kids have somewhere to go when they come to me. When they come into Miami, I got to make sure all their rooms is done and everything is you know you know so i'm sure you understand my money the cemetery is gonna be one of the places they could possibly go i need to get my 5200 hey listen yeah he throwing his nose up up at you No I ain't do that
Starting point is 01:09:46 But listen Due to unfortunate Circumstances You know I had to move I had to give me a place I had to start over I'm sure you're
Starting point is 01:09:53 Understanding of that And you should be Supporting me During this awesome time You should be happy I'm supporting you Yeah you should be You should be happy
Starting point is 01:10:01 You know Yeah man Shoot Yeah you should be happy Yeah man shoot Yeah you should be happy If I show my gun No okay Let me go get this Okay
Starting point is 01:10:17 You gonna flash a pistol at me We just talked about John Morant Flashing the fingers I'm going to go get his hair off from upstairs. Adrian said, who's your guys Mount Rushmore of offensive linemen?
Starting point is 01:10:41 Offensive linemen? Yep. Anthony Munoz Willie Anderson Jonathan Ogden Tony Buscelli You ain't got no but tackles Can I throw
Starting point is 01:10:54 It's so many man Lee is so many I'm taking Larry Allen I'm going Larry Allen. I'm going to take J.O. Mike Webster got to be the center. Boy, it's too many. That's a good one though. It is. That's a good
Starting point is 01:11:20 question. I'm going to leave out Walter Jones. You leave out Garrett Zimmerman. You leave out Garrett Zimmerman. You leave out Munoz, Art Shell, Gene Upshaw, John Hanna. There's too many. Too many greats. Trying to think. I should have just went by position, huh?
Starting point is 01:11:46 So left tackle, I'm going to go Jonathan Alden. Willie Anderson at right tackle. Okay. My center, give me Jeff Saturday at the center. Okay. I need a right guard and a left guard. Ah, God. Larry Allen?
Starting point is 01:12:02 Larry Allen is the right guard. And my left guard... Richmond Webb. Richmond Webb was a left tackle. He was a left tackle, right? Okay, never mind. I mean, you got Bruce Matthews. You got Dwight Stevenson. I go back and forth a little bit further
Starting point is 01:12:20 with offensive linemen than you. But Mike Webster is probably the Pittsburgh center. Zach Martin just retired. So I would take Larry Allen and John Hannah as my guards. Right. I would take Mike Webster as my center. I put J.O. at left tackle.
Starting point is 01:12:44 I put Walter Jones at right tackle. Cedric Pace at Okonoclo. Today is my birthday. Can I get a shout out? Cedric, you absolutely can. Happy birthday. Hopefully you did something fun. Enjoyed your day.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Maybe you got a lady or wife or whatever, but hopefully you were able to celebrate with family, friends, and loved ones. Happy birthday and many more to come. That concludes this episode of Night Count. The Florida Gators
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Starting point is 01:14:55 two weeks ago now. Eight stops, Baltimore, Philly, Charlotte, L.A., Miami, New York, Chicago, and Detroit. Tickets can be found at shaveShaveMedia.com slash tour. The link is pinned in the chat. Our guest lineups are shaping up nice, so guys, you don't want to miss that. We're trying to hit all the cities
Starting point is 01:15:14 and who knows, we might have a surprise sit in there when it's all said and done. Go get your tickets now. Thank you, DC Young Fly for joining us. What happened? Yeah, we might have a little surprise what Cincinnati
Starting point is 01:15:30 no not Cincinnati Cincinnati is probably 26 2026 yeah okay okay okay okay thank you DC Young Fly for joining us bro we really appreciate that. You know, we got a big press release tomorrow, Ocho, about Nightcap.
Starting point is 01:15:53 All episodes, because we're going to do his show and the Atlanta Hawks. So you see them up there, but we got a big press release that's going to come out tomorrow. So I appreciate you and Atlanta Hawks for believing in us. Shay Shay Media allowed us to be a part of you, Atlanta Hawks, for believing in us. Shae Shae Media allowed us to be a part of this. DC Young Fly, look forward to you. Thank you for believing in us also. Just goes to show a lot of the hard work that the team is
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