Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Tua speaks out, Tom Brady's high praise

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Miami Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa calling out former coach Brian Flores, Tom Brady praising the Los Angeles Rams offense.03:05 - Dame doesnt think he gets the credit he desreved20:15 - Paul George Deflects question24:10 - Tua goes off on former coach33:45 - ESPN releases NFL power rankings37:05 - Tom Brady calls Rams the #1 threat to Chiefs38:46 - Former NFL player allegedly urinates on passenger44:20 - Q and Ayyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Good job. Ocho, now we're back. Damon Lillard thinks he doesn't get the credit he deserves. Let's take a listen to what Dame had to say on Club 520. Let's take a listen. For real. I'm just saying, it's like my time in the league, when I think about how many people have been very good over that time,

and then it's been more people very good, and more people very good for over that time and then it's been more people very good and more people very good for a couple years like it ain't been that many people that have been here

the whole time like since I've been in the league that just been doing it like over and over and over but I think people just get bored

with consistency and I ain't loud but like should I been doing it that long and winning like it ain't like I've been doing it and I'm winning? Like, it ain't like I've been doing it

and I'm playing 14 and just never playing the playoffs. Hey, well, look, you know, Ocho, I've been a Dame Lillard fan since he came into the league. Yes, sir. Came into the league in 2012, rookie of the year. He's a phenomenal player. Yes, sir. But what he's

running to is like if you're a quarterback and you played in the Tom Brady era. Right. You're going to get he came up LeBron, Steph Curry, KD, then later Giannis Jokic. Right. And

Luka. Do you think it has anything to do with the market he was in as well? The visibility, not being able to see him as much as a LeBron, not being able to see him as much as a LeBron, not being able to see him as much as... Hell, we don't see Giannis. We didn't see Giannis. Milwaukee. Ain't nobody looking at Denver.

You don't think that plays a factor, though, Unc? You see Denver all the time. You see Jokic all the time. No, you see Denver now all the time. You didn't see him all the time before. You see him all the time now. They had Melo. But I think the thing is that you have to understand the era that he's playing in.

He's playing with LeBron. KD is in his era. Smackdown. Steph Curry. I can make a case that Dame Lillard is the second greatest shooter ever. But he happens to be playing in the era with the greatest shooter ever. Right. but he happens to be playing in the era with the greatest shooter ever. Think about all the people that played from 2008 until 2022.

Think about all the quarterbacks. But that smack dab in the middle of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Yeah, that's true. But when he talks about not getting the credit that he deserves, I mean, what does he mean? because his peers give him the credit and i've heard the media they do also give him his credit so what exactly is he does he mean by who would he want the credit from well based on what i've heard he only gets his credit you give credit. You know, being one of the better shooters outside of Steph Curry in the NFL. I mean, I'm talking about NFL. In the NBA.

You know, I've given his credit before because he's one of the best right now. I just really thought playing in Portland all those years might have hurt, obviously, the visibility. And, you know, others giving him the notoriety that he deserves in being one of the great ones. Outside of, obviously, the Steph Curry, the LeBrons, and the KDs. Even if you are in this era, I think if you made a little bit more noise. All the players that you mentioned, what do they have? Championships, MVPs, LeBron got four.

Jokic got three. Giannis got two. Steph got two. KD has one. Okay? The MVPs. So that's like 10, 12 MVPs between the four guys I mentioned.

Okay? Championships. KD has two. Steph has four. LeBron has four. Giannis has one. Jokic has one I mean see that's not fair man

you think he stayed in Portland too long yes yes the same thing happened to Kevin Garnett he was loyal to the soil he didn't want to go chase I want somebody to come here there's nobody coming and I said that to come here. There's nobody coming.

Right. And I said that a long, long time ago. Ain't nobody coming to Portland. Right. Just like with nobody going to Kevin. And after they tried to do that backhanded deal, Joe Smith had a deal in place. And what happened was he ended up firing his agent. Well, his agent told the commissioner that they had a deal in place when they weren't supposed to.

And he took three first round picks for him and he doomed him. So now Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant, Kevin Garnett stayed far too long. He should have been left. But he wised up. He was able to get a championship, get a defensive player of the year. And it changed the trajectory of Kevin Garnett. Because had he stayed there for its entirety, and he doesn't get that championship,

we're not looking at Kevin Garnett the exact same way. And so, yes. And I said the same thing. I said, Dame is going to stay too long. So you think he gets the championship with Giannis? It's going to be tough because everybody got better. Philly got Paul George. Boston comes back with a young

squad. The Knicks saying, hold on. We're going to be good. If our guys stay healthy, remember Julius Randles didn't play. Mitchell Robinson got hurt. Bogdanovich got hurt.

Whatchacup ended up breaking his hand. Jalen Brunson ended up breaking his hand. Jimmy Butler got hurt. So, the East is a beast. They don't really have a chance then, huh? They got a chance because you got Dame, one of the better players in the NBA, and you got Giannis.

Yes, they got a chance. Get Chris Middleton back healthy. But, I mean, what they had to give up because in order to get a guy like Dame, you got to give up Holiday. And then what you did is that you made Celtics stronger by giving up Holiday because he goes to Portland, they make a trade. Now they get a defense. So now you got Derek White and Holiday,

two defensive guys that can hound on the perimeter. Now you got JB and JT. Both of those guys can guard JBA. JB did an outstanding job on Luka. 6'7", long, plus got an offensive game. So in the process of getting Dane, you took Drew, but you strengthened the Celtics.

Yeah. But also you strengthened yourself offensively too with Dame. Yes, but you took some of the defense away. Huh? But you took a lot of the defense away. Right. How was the Bucs bench?

Bobby Fortis is good. Oh yeah, I like Bobby. Bobby nice. Bobby nice. Yeah. They got Coddington. They got you. Look, there's a give and take because you get a guy like Dame

and there's not a whole lot of Dame Lillards. But I still believe he waited. He probably waited four years too long to leave. Should have been left. Dang. Should have been left. Yeah. Dang. Should have been left.

Dang, I know you're going to see this, boy. You're the real deal, boy. You hear me? Yeah, he legit. Whether you win a championship or not, you're the real deal, boy. You're a legend. You can't beat me. Yeah, I believe you.

You're a legend. But, you know, this notion, I don't want to go link up with nobody. I want, man, look here. They're going to criticize you and judge you anyway. Go be happy. Right. Go be happy. Damn what people say.

Because they're going to talk about you anyway. Always. Because, I tell you what. Ocho. Yes, sir. I'd rather be sad than a Rolls Royce than riding a bus. So talk about me when I got a ring on my finger. Because then I can put one of them in my ear and drown you out.

I like that. So that's what guys got to understand. If you don't got no ring, first thing they're going to throw in your face, you ain't got no ring? Mm-hmm. Okay. Go say, well, I teamed up. I don't got no ring, first thing they're going to throw at your face, you ain't got no ring? Okay. Go say, well, I teamed, I don't care what you say. I got it. I got it. I got it. But Dame is a phenomenal player.

I think it goes without saying, my record, being on record and what I think of Dame, speaks for itself. But I think the thing is that he just happens to be in an era that's kind of loaded. Like I said, you got Braun, you got Steph, you got KD, now you got Jokic, you got Giannis.

All those guys got MVPs. Like, with the exception of KD, he's the only one that got one MVP. All the rest of them got multiple. Braun got four. Jokic got three. Steph has two. Giannis has two.

And a championship. And a finals MVP. So if we adding it up, do we put him in? Do we put him in front of any of those guys, Ocho? No, but he's right there in that group. Jesse doesn't have. No, he's not in that group. No, Ocho, don't do that.

He's not in that group. The type of player he is. Is he in that group? The guys that I just named, is he in that group? Because I think that's the group that he wants to a basketball standpoint not the accolades you just named from a basketball standpoint you're not putting him in that group of those players no oh so you take away the accolades you just named as a basketball players are rated so so in other words if accolades didn't matter you could put anybody in a group with patrick mahomes That's why accolades don't matter.

No, I'm just saying from a basketball standpoint, playing the game basketball. From a football standpoint, accolades don't matter. What quarterback you want to put in the category with Mahomes. Accolades don't matter because that's what you just said. You're not understanding what I'm saying. I'm talking about from a skill perspective, like just playing straight

basketball. There's a lot of skilled guys, but what separates them are championship and accolades. Oh, Joe. So let me ask you a question. You don't understand what I'm saying. Let me ask you a question. If skilled as Jordan and Kobe was

without the accolades, would we hold them in such high regards okay I I hear what you're saying but maybe I'm maybe I'm wording it the wrong way maybe I'm wording through maybe I'm wording it the wrong way and I can't find the words to kind of explain what I'm trying to say but I'm just seeing it he's just as good as those guys but he doesn't have the team achievement that allows them to to garner that's what it's about oh joe that's what it's about what are we doing here we can't't change the rule. See the problem that a lot of times what people try to do, they try to change the rules for people that they like.

I like Dane. I'm on record. My record speaks for itself about talking about Dane, but you can't put him with LeBron, Steph and KD and Giannis and Yoke. You can't. Am I missing something? there's a reason it upsets me a little bit

because now you're answering this question on why they don't talk about him more often as good as he is and that's why no, they talk about him I think the thing is for him is that if he were to win a championship, I think he'd shoot something right. Like I said, you can make a case that he's the second greatest shooter ever,

but he happens to be playing in the era with the greatest shooter. The greatest. Right. All right. the greatest just imagine how we would look at Peyton and Rodgers had they not been smacked down you're probably talking about the first and second greatest quarterbacks

probably the first and second greatest without Brady but there is a Brady first and second grade without Brady. But there is a Brady. There is Brady. And so that's the thing. You talk about skill. Jordan and Kobe are two of the most

skilled guys to ever lace up shoes and dribble a basketball. But without the accolades, what are we talking about here? Yeah. I got you. I got you. You can't have one without the other. I got it. It comes

into... I think the thing... Look, I think his peers have the utmost respect Absolutely. for Dane. And rightfully so. I think for the most part, I mean, he's been a multiple-time All-Star. I mean, how many All-Star games

has Dame been in? Like 10? Probably been an All-Star 10 times. He's probably been an All-NBA selection multiple times. He's an eight-time All-Star. Seven-time All-NBA. He has accolades.

But just not the one that will cause you to be revered. MVPs, championships, finals MVPs. And the five guys that I named, look at LeBron, four titles, four finals MVPs, four MVPs, 10 final appearances. Steph, same thing.

Six appearances, four titles, two regular season MVPs, a finals MVP. Kevin Durant, four finals appearances, two titles, two finals MVP. Nikola Jokic, three MVPs, one final appearance, Two finals MVP. Nikola Jokic. Three MVPs. One final appearance. One finals MVP. Giannis. Two MVPs. A defensive player of the year.

One finals. One finals MVP. It's just hard. Now, I guess, look. If we just talk about... And these are the lead dogs. They're the lead dogs of the slate. Yeah.

So we're not talking about guys that, okay, he won a ring, but he wasn't the lead dog. And that's what Dame has been. Dame has been the lead dog in Portland. Right. But I just don't know how you put him in that same category as those guys with the accomplishment those guys have. Is he going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer? Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm just seeing it from a different lens. I just don't know how to regurgitate it out to where it would make sense. I understand the accolades that all the other players have, but just speaking from a basketball perspective and what I get to see on the court, he is just as great as those individuals, despite them having all the hardware they have to go with them.

I don't know if it makes sense. It might make sense to some. Some might not get it. But I got you. Again, I got a long way to go with this basketball shit. So that's all. break free from the chains of trauma and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you.

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Hey. Okay. I don't know. That's a good one. How many plays can you call up with a game on the line and you got to inbound the ball for your center? Think about it. Even though he has a great three and he's great for mid-range if he yeah he gets the ball there's only so much he can do no the thing is what makes him so unique is that he can put the ball on the floor and get

to his spot yeah Yeah. Okay. He ain't the typical big man that we're used to seeing. Yeah, yeah. As you said, he got three. He got mid. He can put the ball on the floor and get to the basket. Nobody shot more free throws over the last three to four years than Joel Embiid. He can get to the line.

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You can't tell PG had anything happen to him. Damn. That's a good one, though. Nick Nurse, who you gonna draw it up for? Ocho! Yeah.

Tua has played for two different head coaches during his four-year NFL career. And if you want to know which one he likes better, well, it's pretty clear. Let's take a listen to what Tua had to say on the Dan Levitard's podcast. Tua. Can you explain to us the difference in practical terms between having a coach who did believe in you the way that he did and the difference between that and what was happening with Flores?

Yeah, well. if you woke up every morning and I told you you suck at what you did that you don't belong doing what you do that you shouldn't be here that this guy should be here that you haven't earned this right and then you have somebody else come in and tell you dude you are the best fit for this. Hey, it's very important for coaches to understand their players. Yeah. Understand the type of coaching, the type of motivating tactics that you use. Understand who you're dealing with. That's very important. It's very, very important.

Now, some players will respond to that differently. Well, you tell me something like that. Well, that's motivating. I don't belong. Well, she nigga who? Oh, my bad. I'm sorry. My bad.

You got me. Got me getting got their Liberty City. But yeah. Oh, I don't belong. What? Okay. I'm gonna show you. I like that some coaches have to coach

hard but they have to know the player that they talking to some don't some don't respond well to that no some don't respond well to that it's all it's all about knowing your player and I you can't you can't talk to your players like that, especially not your quarterback. You don't tell your quarterback that. Don't tell your quarterback that. If he's built for that, if he's built, again, know your personnel as a coach. If he's built like that, and that's your way of getting to him,

to get what you want out of him, I see it. But Tua's not that kind of player. He's not mentally built like that for you to be criticizing who he is as a player and taking shots at him. That's not how you get him to respond and to get the best out of him. And Mr. Flores should have known that. I think, look, everybody tries to, maybe that's something that Coach Belichick would tell Tom Brady because there's been reports he's like,

hey, I can go get a guy from the high school team that can do that, Tommy. What are we doing here? But like you said, the mark of a great coach is to understand his players and to communicate and to get the best out of them without the player feeling like he's being demeaned. Because I don't care how strong, I don't care if Tom Brady is repeatedly told every single

day, you ain't nothing. You a seventh and sixth round draft pick, that's why you were in the sixth round. It starts to eat at you. It does. It does. If your position coach, no matter what you did you have a great game he's like that was

alright but when you have a bad game he beat you down it's gonna wear on you that's just the way that's because somebody can tell you something great 50 great comments but you'll see that one that one negative one so imagine

more negative 50 50 negative, but one positive. But look, I think it's been on record that Brian Flores wanted Justin Herbert. Stephen Ross overruled him and took two of them.

You look at big, strong Herbert, 6'4", 6'5", foot four, six, five rocket arm. You can make every single throw. Right. Do a more athletic than you would think. But like you said, McDaniels came in and said, bro, you perfect for the system.

Most definitely. And he is process. You can get the ball out of your hand. Hey, you look at these feasters. You got, you got waddle. Yeah, most definitely. It is. Process, you can get the ball out of your hand. Hey, look at these feasters you got. You got Waddle. You got Reek. We got Runnaby. We got A-Chain. We got

guys in the backfield that you can hand it to. It's a tough situation, man. Look, I've been very fortunate to know you. I don't know about you, but I've been fortunate that coaches

always gave me positive. I didn't do well. Like I said, I didn't do well with the cursing. I want to be coached hard. If I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong. You're different from me. I do well with the cursing. I do well with the cursing. When Hugh was there, when Hugh Jackson

was my coach, those were my best years in Cincinnati when Hugh was my coach Marvin I did well with the curse and they knew how to talk to me it's okay pretend like we not here

pretend we in the barbershop I respond well to that it just it's just who I was it's what I'm used to it's the way I was it was the way i was coaching when i was growing up so and and they we understood that and we had that type of relationship

where it didn't it didn't i didn't take it personal i understood in order they knew what they needed to do to get me going to get the best out of me yeah and i think that's the thing that's what a coach job is is to find out what motivates the player how could i how can i reach into a player and pull out the absolute best of it right and you know what now that you just said that and that's another reason why marvin and hugh allowed me to be myself when it came to the antics whether it be the media whether it be through sending the secondaries each week a gift or whatever it may be, because that is the stuff that motivated me and then forced

me to have to play, huh? Because I already put myself out there. I had no choice but to show up every week. I had no choice. I got a goddamn list of all the DBs in my goddamn locker before week one, and everybody named got a check by it, and they

trying to knock my head off every goddamn week i had no choice but to show up but that motivated me it motivated me it made me get up i mean it's it's the goddamn nfl you got to be ready you got to get up you got to play hard you got to practice whatever it may be but i just needed that extra edge so i got i'm talking shit for a reason right I had to it's weird but I just needed it I don't know people say you're adding too much pressure

just approach the game quietly I can't I need people trying to hurt me I need people trying to knock my head off I need it it gets me going and it takes all the pressure off the other 52 guys. It's a weird thing.

I don't know how to explain it. Yeah, I just, they're each his own. Like I said, I think my coaches, I did a great job of relaying to my coaches. Even when I went to Baltimore, I went to Brian's office. I talked to him. He's like, you know, I said said i don't mind you yelling at me you just can't curse me right you ain't play that shit no no because i wasn't gonna let you call me something my grandmother that was the only person that could talk to me sideways right right ain't about it i mean hey no no you, you're not. No, I understand.

And I get it. I know you're the head coach. I know you can fire me. I know you can trade me. I get all of that. Right. But if you think you can talk to me sideways before you trade me, before you cut me, I tear your ass up before you do any of that.

So, no, my thing is, I'm big on respect. Yes. Because I go out of my way to give someone respect yeah and now if you don't respect me okay let's just you know hey let's just go on our separate ways and we cool yeah because sometimes but look here my grandfather used to always say he said boy don't be a slave to loyalty sometimes people become a slave to loyalty because someone has done something for you right and you cut and they constantly feel they know they've done something for you but they feel they can talk to you less than now you know what i appreciate

that right i'll always hold you in very high regards but you know what let's just go on our separate ways because this is the disrespect is starting to get out of hand and i'm i'm big on respect i i think everybody deserves a level of respect that's just me yeah and i go out of my way to give it to people anybody that's ever come in contact with me that's how i am but nah you're not finna talk you're not finna talk to me, man. That's crazy. Nah, nah. Yeah, I don't know.

It's just I had a different relationship with Hugh, especially. Matter of fact, Hugh say he gonna be at the show too. Which one? Atlanta. Atlanta? Yeah. He coaching at Georgia. Where did I see Hugh? I saw Hugh. Coaching at Georgia State. Okay, but I saw him

a couple months. I used to bump into him all the time in L.A. Yeah. I hadn't seen him in a while, so that's probably why. But I did bump into him when Atlanta was home

and I saw him in Atlanta. Yeah. But Ocho, ESPN released their NFL Power Rankings today. Number one, Chiefs, number two Ravens number three Niners, number four Lions, number five Eagles, number six Texans

number seven Bills, number eight Dolphins, number nine Bengals number ten Packers and last, outside of the top ten I mean we ain't gonna mention them, we only go to ten hold on now, hold on, hold on hold on uh, Ravens top 10. I mean, we ain't going to mention them. We only go to 10. Hold on now. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Ravens for the A's.

You know, I like this. I can't really... I do too. This is just about right. Somebody got this right. I'm not sure who at ESPN made this list. This is spot on. I'm not so sure. I wouldn't put the Texans over the Eagles. Man, I don't trust the Eagles defense, Ocho.

I just don't. Well, based on what they did last year. Now, I know they got Devin White. Came from Tampa. Right. With something to prove. Right. But, man.

Listen, based off last year, this is perfectly, this is a perfect list for everybody to use going into this season. Yeah. See, Dolphins, yeah. Bengals, you know, the injury to Joe Burrow, that's why we're at nine, so I understand that. That's right. The Packers, eh? Cowboys at 11. Yeah, because

there's no other team you can replace. You can take out and put the Cowboys there. So the 11 is a good spot. And I think there's a priding team this year that ain't on that goddamn list. And just because, as a matter of fact, two teams. Sanders

and the Bears. It'll shock a lot of people now. Simply because of the matter of fact, two teams, Anders and the bears. Okay. We'll shock a lot of people now simply because of the quarterback play. They open up, they open up the playbook. You can do so many more things offensively because of them. First pass first quarterbacks, but have the ability to run if need be and extend plays,

they're going to surprise a lot of people. All right. We're going to see. ESPN also say Jerry Jones is on the hot seat. You agree? Jerry Jones? Yeah. Who the hell going to fire Jerry? Hey, they get off to a slow start because CDA didn't count. Listen, they get off to a slow start because CDA didn't count.

Listen, man. They say Jerry on the hot seat. I just want to know who's going to fire Jerry. Ain't nobody going to fire him. Jerry, look, Jerry's convinced the fans in Dallas, because he tell them every year this is the most talented team.

This team reminds me of those Super Bowl teams. And everybody get excited all over again because they know how talented those teams were. And they said, well, Jerry got to know what he's talking about because he was so close. And every year, what happened? Don't get me started. You get from in front of that mic

and let them boys do what they need to do. Get from in front of that mic and let them boys do what they need to do. Get from in front of that mic and get them players paid. He ain't trying to do that. He's trying to get his shine. He don't want nobody stealing his shine. Yeah. Tom Brady went on Stephen A's podcast and praised the Rams as potentially being the number one threat to the Chiefs this season.

Do you agree, Ocho? Huh? The Rams? How? And how is this an underrated defense and he's only seen them in shorts? In shirts? Joint practices? That don't count.

That don't count? Because when the time comes, when it's time to actually play, it's going to be different. It's going to be different. Hey, we got Xavier Worthy, Travis Kelsey. You got, wait, Rashid Rice. Okay, Rashid Rice. Hold on. We got his's messed up

but he'll be back Hollywood Brown Man, things are different Things are different over there in Kansas City, man Nah, I know you might It's just tough, man Listen, I know Tom

Tom probably saw him at practice Defense flying around, Defense looking good. They might have been looking good in shorts. Hell, they might have been looking good in pads. They might have been looking good in the joint practice. But hell, it's a different ballgame. Being the biggest threat to the Chiefs, I don't even think they have the personnel to match up with the Chiefs.

Who? The Rams. The Rams. It's all about matchups. It's all about personnel. Mm-hmm. Who you putting out there? Who's stopping who?

Who's covering who? It ain't just, shh, man, all right. This ain't Madden. Former first-round pick, offensive tackle, Gosner Cherilice was arrested this weekend after allegedly urinating on a passenger during a Delta flight during a

Delta Airlines flight. Police were called to Logan Airport at 2 a.m. Chalice released a statement in the situation. I'd like to address the media reports about me that surfaced today regarding a situation that occurred on board a flight to Ireland this past weekend.

The flight was unexpectedly delayed approximately four hours, and it did not take off until 12.30 a.m. In preparation for the unexpected overnight flight, I took a sleeping medication that I don't normally use, which resulted in behavior that is not representative of my character.

I would like to apologize to the passengers and the flight crew. Ooh, that's tough. That's tough. Them sleeping pills get you, man. You got to be careful with them things, Ocho. Wait, what was it? Sleeping pill. Oh, man.

It make you do stuff like that, though, Unc? We don't know what you do. Yeah, yeah. You be sleepwalking, sleeptalking, yeah. Serious? That's why I don't take them on. I don't take them on no flight. Damn.

Never have me on the no-fly list. I need to fly. Yeah, I don't even know how to comment on that one, but obviously he was not in his right state of mind because of the sleeping pills he took and didn't understand the effects that it would have after taking them, but I didn't know it would make you do something like that where you don't know

where you're not in your right state of mind. I mean, I don't call no name of sleeping medication, but some of you have to be careful. You have to be extremely careful. Yes, sir. Yes. Yes. That's crazy. oh damn yeah but lord that's why i always get me out that's why i don't take no sleeping pills

i ain't got no problem sleeping when When I'm tired, I'm going to bed, right? Yeah. Me and them overnight. I mean, when we flew to France, I ain't sleep not once. I was aggravating the hell out of Ash. Ash was like, you're not going to go to sleep? Nah. And I ain't going to let you go to sleep either.

So I was up, what, eight, nine hours? Yeah. I was up the whole flight. I was like, what, eight, nine hours? Yeah. I was up the whole flight. I was like, what y'all doing? Because she was sitting with Shelly. I was like, what y'all doing back here? Wait, you stayed the whole nine hours? I stayed up the whole time.

Hey, I wait good. I see Ash Head do this. I come get on the back of the seat. What y'all doing? What y'all doing? Wait, listen. I come get on the back of the seat. What y'all doing? I could be flying from here to Orlando, here to Tampa.

Flight might be 30 minutes. I'm going to get me 20 minutes of sleep. I'm going to sleep. Three hour flight, two hour flight, five hour flight, six hour. I'm going to sleep.

And I purposely leave at night. Because you know I like... I don't like the red eyes, Ocho. See, normally, the only time I'm up late at night is when we started doing the show. Before the show started, before this was created, 9.30, boy, I'm asleep. I'm up 5 a.m.

Yeah, we had to be asleep too. We had to be to work at 4 a.m. Okay, okay. So what time you think I was going to bed? I got to get up. I got to shower. I got to take the dogs out before I'm up at 3. I don't see how you do it, bro. And then LeBron James and then Bron move come to L.A.

It was fine. Long as LeBron was on the East Coast, we got the game. This man gonna mess around and come to L.A. L.A., yeah. Them games coming on at 7.30. Mm-hmm. Ain't going to end until 10. Right.

I'm in the bed at 11, back up at 3. Mm-hmm. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify.

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It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with

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Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal

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through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction. Those convictions never wavered. Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life

through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me me now on Audible. Alright, Ocho, time for our last segment, and it's Q&A.

Q&A! Q&A! Kimber Northwood Jr. said, uh, who's the best quarterback in NFC West? I would take Stafford. Stafford? Yep. NFC West?

Hold on. You get Purdy, you get the guy, or whoever is at Seattle, you get Kyler, or you get Stafford. I'll take Stafford. I'm going with Geno Smith.

I'm going with Geno. Stop playing with Geno Top now. I'll take Stafford. Okay, yeah, I mean, listen, you can't go wrong with that. Super Bowl champion, but I'm just going with Geno because he's from goddamn Florida. Oh, okay. Aaron Owens says,

what current receiver reminds you of Ocho? Ocho, what current tight end reminds you of Ocho? I mean, there's no current receiver that is like myself. And I mean that in the most respectful way. A tight end that reminds me of Ocho. Maybe, what about, he doesn't get the ball as much as he should.

He kind of did when Flacco stepped in. Unjoku. What you think? No? No, he's a little bit, he's not as fluid as I am. Kelsey reminds me of me. You like Kelsey? He's a big, he's a big fluid guy. Kelsey reminds me of me. You like Kelsey? He's a

big fluid guy. He can drop his hips. Great change of direction. He plays. He got wiggle to him. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Joku got that too.

Hold on now. Joku more of an inline guy. He ain't got no songs. Like, like, Kelsey's gonna run whip routes, option routes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Joku is more of a guy that seems seven routes, stuff like that, he can build up a head of steam. Kelsey gonna kill you with finesse on the inside. He's shaking you up. Okay.

I like it. I like it. I like it. Probably Kenan doesn't have the speed that you had, but Kenan Allen kind of reminds me of you. He doesn't have the speed that you had but Kenan Allen kind of reminds me of you he doesn't have

Kenan is more of a slot you played more outside the numbers he definitely don't have the foot speed that you have my lateral movement in my feet was all I had not all I had I'm just saying that was my specialty.

Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said, Hey, guys, what's more critical to a team's success, top-tier quarterback or lockdown corner? Quarterback. Get you a guy that can score points. Quarterback. Quarterback, of course. Get you a guy that can score points quarterback quarterback of course get you a guy that can score points

quarterback of course because I can go away from the lockdown corner how you gonna keep the ball out of my hand you touching it every time three downs you can do about it I ain't got a fool with Rebus

I ain't got a fool with Debus I ain't got a fool with Deion in the top corner I just bomb him like your other guys so C Hill said what's good 84-85 Ocho how did it feel here at Adam Schefter name drop you today when Lil Wayne shouted you

in a hustle hard remix one of his legendary bars, keep stepping for CC2. What you think? Wayne put you in a trap? I don't know. I ain't hear it. I ain't hear it. Man, listen, I've been

this has been going on for years and years and years, just being in people's lyrics, being in people's lyrics. So it's been cool, but I didn't know he dropped anything, anything new. What'd you call him?

Say, uh, uh, uh, Justin Jefferson, remind them of you. No, no,

he's, uh, he's, he's he's a a long stride i i don't know how to explain it man i used to you know it's funny depending on the route i would change my gait too the way i'm running yeah and you wouldn't even tell i get the illusion that i'm moving i give the illusion that i'm running full speed, but I'm really not. Just by exaggerating my gait and making it look like I'm moving. But no, no.

Nah. It's nobody. Because with the footwork alone or the route running alone, it's nobody. Nobody. Ain't nobody running full speed and stopping on the dime. Lanny Ray says hey guys thanks for keeping us entertained as usual

if you could trade places with anyone for a day who would it be and what would you do trade places with one person for a day you know what Places for one person for a day. You know what? Who is the current sitting president?

It's still Biden, right? Yeah. I'd be the I'd be I'm going to be the president. I don't want that job. It's only for a day. I don't want that. It's only for a day I don't want that it's only for a day it's only for a day you let me be president for a day

but we gonna have a ball we gonna have a ball I'm gonna take my motorcade whatever you call the whole we gonna be in the city we finna pull up at Toosties go to the dolphins practice, doing all types of shit.

A president ain't supposed to be doing. You know what? Don't you? What? I wouldn't want to trade with nobody. No, it's only one day. Oh,

I'm good. Yeah. That's all right. there's only one day, huh? I'm good. Yeah, that's all right. Cause then they're going to know all the secrets. They don't come back. Then I trade with somebody and then they're going to know all my secrets. They're going to tell all my business. Okay.

I see what you mean. Well, I do it. I'm I'm, I want to be in the white house. You go visit. No, no, no, no. I'm going to be in the White House. You go visit? No, no, no, no. I want to be hypothetical.

Oh, you want to sit in the Oval Office? Yeah, yeah. Hypothetically speaking, I want to be president one day. Matter of fact, I just want to address America. Because I'd be the first sitting president that curses. Nah, there have been some curse on hot mics just not yeah there's hot mic no I'm hello to the American people

I've always wanted to tell you this I fucking love all you fuckers that's how I'm addressing the people what I listen I have America jumping man that's what they need they need something different they need a change

of pace you know a custom have you ever seen the videos of the cursing pastor I think I did he's funny as hell he's funny as hell Rod870 says Uncle Nocho He funny as hell. He funny as hell. Rod 870 says, Uncle Nocho, could you guys wish my wife Tamara, oh, Tamara Beth McGee from Westwood in Memphis, happy birthday.

Tamara, happy birthday. Happy birthday. Your hubby said he wanted to wish you a happy birthday today. Say he hope you enjoyed your day and many, many more to come. And he's happy that he got a chance to celebrate it with you. So, Rod, you and Tamara Best, wish you guys the best up in Memphis. And when we come to

Memphis, I want some, what are we going to get? Some dry rub ribs. That's what I want. Dry rub? Yeah, I want that dry rub. I mean, I like them wet too, but I want that, you know want that dry rub I mean I like wet I like them wet too but I want that you know you ever had them

like rib tips them dry rub rib tip I know about rib tips now I know yeah yeah yeah man that's what I be wanting Ocho

air underscore Rico Ocho just turned 28. Let these ladies know I'm trying to settle down. But this weekend, I'm doing something for two something. Stay with me now. Bro, how you going to talk about you ready to settle down but then talk about just weekend you trying to do something for two something? I got to steal that.

Hey. Enjoy yourself, boy. Enjoy yourself. You ain't ready yeah enjoy yourself man nah man I want to look you everybody can't do a dry rub you know what I'm saying don't you

everybody can't do dry rub ribs why not you been to Kansas City yeah Kansas City is known for it his ribs right if i'm not mistaken yes okay so yeah what is memphis known for ribs oh same same thing okay okay yeah okay uh dry rub baby back the rib tips hey you know what speaking of ribs now i know people might laugh at me because you know i ain't really with the high-end shit you ever had the baby back rear from tony romers or you don't know what tony romers is i know tony romers is yeah i had him i used to get

a full a full rack of baby back rear from tony romers with the french fries though them shits used to fall off the bone now i know it's nothing compared to the ribs in Kansas City or the ribs in Memphis, but it was good to me. Because the simple things make me happy, but God damn them ribs, man. Hey, I need somebody to go get and fetch me Williams Brothers.

Because when I go home, when I go to Atlanta, you know, I normally get, I go to Fat Matt's, I go to, when I go, when I go to Atlanta, you know, I normally get, I go to fat mats. I go to Fox brothers. And then I get my homeboy, grab some, uh, Williams brothers.

They up in Marietta. So I don't feel like driving there. So I was like, Hey man, you up that way. Oh, Charlie Barrows in Memphis. Rendezvous.

He's a rendezvous in there. Charlie Barrows in Memphis. Or is that the same thing? Is Charlie Barrows and rendezvous the say rendezvous isn't there a charlie barrow in memphis or is that the same thing is charlie barrow and rendezvous the same thing i don't know i don't know huh i'm thinking about them damn ribs man

yeah i want some good i would like to have some too I don't know. Huh? I was just thinking about them damn ribs, man. Yeah, I want some good. I would like to have some, too. Ocho, T-Y Fly Guy said, Ocho, you going to retire from them 486 jobs if you have Bezos cash? Hell no. I'm going to have 100,000 diamonds in Magic City. No, I'm going to get them Sparks. You know what I'm saying? They got a spark, got a little flame on it, too, Ocho. I already know. I'm going to get them Sparks. You know what I'm saying?

They got a little flame on it, you know. I already know. I'm going to do a five. Hey, if I ain't retiring nothing, I got that kind of money. I'm going to do something. I got what you call it, Mocho. I got you a couple samples. Of what?

Them Sparks. What's a Spark? I'm lost now. You got to kiss me on the feet. I just told you. It's ready when you're ready. Okay.

Okay. Okay. All right. Walk around there with something they short on if you want to. One of my old t-shirts if you want to. Okay. All right. Walk around there with something they showed on if you want to and one of my old t-shirts if you want to. Okay. I'm Oh, man.

You know, hey, it is what it is. Yeah. Listen, one thing about it, but I'm with you when you're right. Yeah, man. Yeah, I'm on a I'm on a spiritual I'm on a spiritual journey. I'm on a spiritual journey right now.

A spiritual journey? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, we're about to start up, so I'm trying to cleanse myself. I'm trying to lock in. I'm trying to focus. Okay, okay. I'm understanding the task at hand. I got an important six months ahead of me, and I need to be here.

Just straight ahead. I'm going to go blind and mess with them Sparks. Stevie Wonder got about eight kids. I don't need to see. It'll see just fine. Hell no. I don't need to see it'll see just fine hell no now I got 30 vision Ocho hey

shit see if you want to get 8 for real I don't know how many kids we got but you know we got a bunch of them though I think he do got like 6 or 7 kids I don't know if he got 8 but I think he got 6 or 7 ok ok I ain't know how many kids he got, but you know, he got a bunch of them though. I think he do got like six or seven kids. I don't know if he got eight, but I think he got six or seven. Okay. Okay.

I ain't know. I ain't know that. Yeah. Damn. Is I, he, he ain't nothing wrong with it. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Yeah. Just cause you can't see that.

I don't see some Ray Charles had kids. How do they decide who to talk to? How can you tell? You see Ray, you see Ray, that movie, Ray, Jamie Foxx, you feel the... But what a feeling the British come from. That don't tell you how somebody look, though.

I mean, you feel, I mean, obviously, I mean, look, when you lose one of your senses the other senses become heightened right so taste

smell hearing lose your sight whatever the case may be so clearly he could touch like ooh yeah ooh

ooh yeah ooh you know back then they touch you know they touch all that hey best ride to get me too now if you're blind and try to do somebody like that they don't play that so yeah

somebody said black yeah ain't nothing wrong with that ray me ray me ray me hey ray was touching them all that oh do you remember that one that once you was a little heavy? Ray's like, oh, no. Ray let that one go. But see, you know what I'm saying? That was a good move. You know, they come with that thing. They come with a little tight wrist like, yeah, you go to the side. Move on.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You feel like you about 210. Come on in. Yeah, there it is. 210. 210. Yeah, yeah. 210, 210.

I've been working. I've been working. I've been getting my bitch up. I got to get up to my full five. 210, I'm all in. 230, we can get dirty. You never know. Ocho, you never know.

230, we get dirty. Mm-hmm. Somebody might be, hey, somebody hit me up talking about, I'm uh, I saw a message. Somebody's like, they uh, they like 5'8", 250. I'm like, I don't know about that one, man.

But you said, you said I didn't say that. No, no. You remember you sent me that photo? No, I said 5'2". No, you sent me that photo? I said five, two. No, you sent me a photo. You sent me the photo of the one. You remember the photo you sent me? I did.

To my aunt, just right up your alley. Oh, yeah. You didn't like that? Nah, bro. Okay. And plus, that was 350, 400. Yeah, but she had a little height to her, though. Nah, well, she need to be eight foot tall.

I'm just trying to find you. Hell nah. Hell nah. Come on, man. I'm just trying to find you. I mean, you got to have some standards. Huh? 250. I ain't going over 250.

Man, she was about 230. Perfect. No, she's three. No, she was proportionate no she wasn't come on man nah she was shaped like a garment bag i couldn't do that one a what a garment bag well you know what you could do with a garment bag it's the same size all the way down i can't do nothing but put clothes in it man leave me alone on show hey mill jay said it's my birthday love y'all content appreciate y'all can i get a birthday shout out milton odom jr 33 two days from brian okay college station home of the aggies uh milton happy birthday bro happy 33rd enjoy this day

hopefully you had fun what you call him Berger I had a home I played with a guy Rob Bernstein we call him Berger he from my brand so we got no more questions that's it Ocho

that's it that's it Ocho yo uh that's it that's it see you on Thursday be ready to go hey I see you in Atlanta live show

Thursday night bro we coming we got a nice show for you guys uh great entertainment great conversation

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the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.

It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.