Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: UConn takes down South Carolina, Rodgers pleads with Jets, dicey gifting situation

Episode Date: February 17, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the #7 UConn Huskies ending #4 South Carolina’s 71-game home winning streak with an 87-58 victory. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss reports that Aaron Rodgers allegedly pleaded to stay with the New York Jets, a husband throws away his wife’s Valentine’s Day gift from her boss and much more!06:16 - Anthony Edwards on Luka’s weight09:10 - Azzi Fudd and UConn Huskies beat South Carolina11:55 - Rodgers wanted to stay with Jets29:22 - Money Moves35:53 - Texas A&M Uniforms could be worse in history37:36 - Husband throws away wife’s Valentine’s Day from boss49:46 - Q&Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ant-Man, he that big? He look that big in person? He's 6'4". So when you tall, Ocho, you can put some weight on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was, never mind. So that's why tall guys, seven-foot guys, they got to be careful. Right. If you look at Kareem Kareem has stayed

relatively thin cause what is it like after you get after like you get like seven feet tall it's like cut like every year it cuts like five years off your life

whoa it does it's some kind of stat that I saw but it was years ago for every inch over it's like six six six seven It does. It's some kind of stat that I saw, but it was years ago. For every inch over, it's like six, six, six, seven.

What is it? No, but, uh, Luke is what, six, seven? Is that true? As far as, I mean, the taller you are, it takes years off your life. You think that's true, Uncle? Is that just a saying? Heightened?

Yes, yes. Okay. Hold on, Hold on. Hold on. Damn, that's scary, boy. That's scary, boy. That's scary. You think maybe it's health issues, health problems as you get older?

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I'll find it all as if Fudd scored 28 points for the number 7 UConn Huskies as they enter South Carolina the lady game caught 71 game home winning streak they triumphed them by 29

87-58 UConn had lost their home winning streak. They trounced them by 29. 87-58. UConn had lost their past four to the Gamecocks. Paige Beckers had 12 points, 10 assists, 7 rebounds. UConn took control late in the opening quarter and was up 22 by halftime. Uncharacteristically, the

defending champ, South Carolina, did not respond and lost for the first time at home since North Carolina State beat them 54-46 December 3rd 2020 that ended the fourth longest home winning streak ever for women's division one basketball

history obviously UConn have the longest UConn won like 112 games straight and then they got another 90 and then I think it was Tennessee might have the longest. UConn won like 112 games straight. And then they got another 90. And then I think it was Tennessee might have the third longest. Because, you know, the Lady Balls

with Coach Summit, I had an opportunity to meet her. I love Coach Summit. She used to have, they used to have that stank stank in the 80s and early 90s.

Did you watch this game, Ocho? I watched it. I was like, they had Coach Staley, I missed that one. I missed that one. I saw, I saw the highlights.

I saw at halftime where they were down by, by so much. Yeah. I was, I was shocked obviously, because I didn't expect him to perform like that, especially after winning 71 home games, you know,

in a row. But again, it is UConn despite UConn having, I mean, maybe three or four losses. Maybe it might've been three before coming into this game, you know in a row but again it is UConn despite UConn having I mean maybe three or four losses maybe it might have been three before coming into this game you know UConn always plays well obviously despite the losses they did have I didn't expect them to win this game but when it was that kind of deficit at the half I didn't think I didn't think South Carolina would

be able to recover they uh the Gamecocks did not did not shoot the ball well uh Johnson didn't think South Carolina would be able to recover. The Gamecocks did not shoot the ball well. Johnson didn't shoot the ball well. Popow didn't shoot the ball well. They were 18% from three, three of 17. They were 38% from the floor, 23 of 61. You're not going to beat UConn. And considering Paige Beckers did not score, it was Fudd that did a number on them.

But Strong had 16. Fudd had 28. Chen had 10. Beckers had... Yeah. If anything, I know it's really nice to go undefeated.

It's a great feeling to go undefeated. But if you're going to lose one, let's lose it early. Let's lose it early and get it out the way. Yeah. But uh

Oh man. Coach bounce back. They just got to get better play. They got to get better play out of their guards. Johnson played 24 minutes. She's a starter and she had zero points. I mean they wanted to have 17, 21. They had 27

points from the starters. Your starters give you 21, 27 points. You ain, they wanted to have 17, 21. They had 27 points from the starters. Your starters give you 27 points, you ain't winning. Yeah. Because they're eating up so many minutes. Right. Ah. Oh, Joe. According to reports, Aaron Rodgers apparently pleaded to stay with the Jets. Before the Jets announced this week they are moving on from Aaron Rodgers

after two seasons with the team, Rodgers reportedly tried to make his case for why the Jets should keep him. According to the New York from Aaron Rodgers after two seasons with the team. Rodgers reportedly tried to make his case for why the Jets should keep him. According to the New York Post, Rodgers pleaded with the Jets to give him one more, one or two more years as the starter during his final conversation with the team. Rodgers aggressively urged the Jets to keep him,

but once the decision was made to part ways, Rodgers accepted it. Yeah. I mean, that's tough. That's tough. Rogers accepted it. Yeah. I mean, I'm, uh, that, that, that's, that's tough. That's tough.

I think Aaron Rogers can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Obviously you got into a point where you've always been great and the team has actually needed you. And you're always in a position of power, you know, where you always had the leverage and now being on the other side of things, the other side of the fence now seeing, okay,

you know what? Well, we don't need you. Things are different now. As great as he once was. What am I saying, Ocho? What do I say? What they'll do?

What they'll do? They'll tolerate you until they get... Now, I want you to tell me one thing. One thing Aaron Rodgers did in his two years there that could justify the Jets keeping for another year or two.

Not a damn thing. So not showing up Dominican. Think about it, Ocho. Yes, sir. They said that if you were to come back, you'd have to be to everything. Yeah. So that told them, number one, you're not invested. Okay.

How does going on Pat McAfee every single week? And I love P-Man. And hey, great platform. But for the Jets, how does that help them? It doesn't at all. And it definitely doesn't help because of the fact that you weren't winning.

Not only were you losing and getting your butt kicked every goddamn week, you're still, you're going on the show and then you're creating controversy with some of the things that you're saying on Pat McAfee's show. Yes.

You can't have it both ways. show. Yes, you can't, you can't have, you can't have it both ways. Yeah. Now, now all of a sudden he want to be about a team when he's never been about the team. And he won't be, if they were to bring them back,

you don't, you don't change overnight. A leopard spots, never change. A zebra stripes, never change. They never change. They just go about doing things differently

until they get you where they want you. Then they go right back to the normal program. Always. It's always been that way. Yeah. But a lot of this had to do with, I fought the Jets because when y'all got your butt on that plane

and flew out there. Yeah. Yes. And when y'all got your butt on that plane and flew out there yeah yes and when y'all i won't ram the car i won't alan lazard i won't i won't nathaniel hackett what the hell do you think he thinks he thinks he's the king of the palace yeah but also not only does he think he's the king of the palace but he understands he needs those that's already been around him, that he understands, that he trusts, that he knows he can. That didn't work out for him.

It didn't work out the way he wanted. Tell me, tell me, tell me. So you paying guys, you gave Al Nassar three years, $33 million. Uh-huh. Now, congratulations.

Now, hey, the one thing you can say about him, now, hey, if he likes you, he likes you. Oh, yeah. If he don't, he don't. Yeah. You right. Now, he likes you. Oh, yeah. If he don't, he don't. Yeah. You right.

Now, but I'm just saying, when you try to ingratiate yourself to a team, if that's what you truly want to do, you become, you adopt the team aspect, the team concept. You need me to be here for minicamp? You need me to be here for OTAs? I'm there. I'm here. Yeah.

I'm just trying to figure out why was he so big that Peyton Manning never missed those. Tom Brady didn't miss that. Tom Brady, when he went to Tampa, where was he? This man was breaking protocol throwing the book and congregating with his receivers in the park. At the high school field. You see the difference? Yeah.

You see the difference when guys are bought in? See, a lot of guys talk about tea. But you see, if I were to remove that A and that T, what is it, Ocho? Me? Oh, man, that's funny. That's the thing. Yeah. It's hard for me to see.

And I'm on the outside. I'm looking for the peripheral. Right. But all I know is what's being reported. I don't think he's done anything to ingratiate himself to the team that says I'm a team guy. Yes, we are. I want to be a part of this team.

Yeah, we all know that. I hear Ray Charles can see that. You haven't done nothing. You haven't done nothing to come back. You know good and well. Pleading. Like, like listen if you had something to fall back on when you do do when you do the plea then you have a case yes i mean we should go you ain't got nothing to fall back on how what what is like oh you and then you come up with this cockamamie well you know mandatory means different things different different people. Stop playing.

You know what? Hold on. So I'm gonna look up the definition of mandatory because I thought mandatory was what it was, but. Uh-huh. Man, why are you looking at that,

man? Shout out, shout out to the homie. We got, we got, we got new subscriber, good friend of mine, Cam down in Boston watching,

man. I salute you. Appreciate it. Appreciate the support, homie. Mandatory. Required by it. Appreciate the support. Homie. Mandatory. Required by law. Uh-huh.

Wearing helmets were made mandatory for cyclists, which means you're required to do it. Mandatory attendance is required, which means, Ocho, you're required to be there. I knew it, right. So I don't know who, what mandatory, maybe it means different things to different people. Right. Who? Somebody that doesn't know the, what mandatory, maybe it means different things to different people. Who?

Somebody that doesn't know the definition of mandatory, it might mean something. But if you understand, and Aaron Rodgers is highly intelligent, if you just listen to him,

he'll tell you. He's highly intelligent. So the team like, maybe we made a mistake. We're here. And remember Ocho, I kept telling you. I said, Ocho, I kept telling you. I said, Ocho, he and Garrett Wilson on that sideline in training camp.

Oh, it's your training camp. Listen, let me tell you why I said that. Because, listen, me and Carson were just like that, too, in training camp. That's all. Me and Carson were like that in training camp. Let me ask you a question. How many years did you play with Carson? How many years did you play with Carson? During the season. How many years did you play with Carson?

10. Okay. How many years had him and Garrett Wilson played together? Okay, you're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah, it was early. But that's that fire though, huh?

All I know is Garrett Wilson. That's the one too. How Garrett Wilson, when an offensive rookie of the year of the entire league, is Garrett Wilson. How Garrett Wilson win offensive rookie of the year of the entire league with Zach Wilson. Right.

Yeah. Zach Wilson was a better quarterback. FYI. And I said, I told you that. He a better quarterback than who? Huh? Better quarterback than who? Aaron Rodgers.

Oh, okay. Yeah. I'm not talking about the old Aaron Rodgers. I'm talking about the new Aaron Rodgers I'm talking about the new Aaron Rodgers now that's a whole another story no

the old Aaron Rodgers or just an old Aaron Rodgers that's the I mean look here Robert Sala got fired I mean and Ocho I wish

I wish we could pull this up if I do we talking about this because I didn't really doubt them that we were going to talk about it. But I say, pretty soon, they're going to run out of people to fire.

Oh, yeah. They're going to run out of people to demote. Uh-huh. Now, Ronald Sala got fired. Nathaniel Hackett got demoted. Well, damn. Yeah. One, two.

Who the next person the production oh shit look at this bro stop it how many games they won six six how many games they won six right they won six can I ask you a question

how many games they won with Zach Wilson ask Ash I think they won what 7-10 or 8 they won with Zach Wilson? Ask Ash. I think it was what? What were they? Seven and ten? Or eight and nine with Zach Wilson? Seven and ten. Okay.

So who was the better quarterback again for the Jets? Okay. Numbers don't lie. I said, look, if you're a defensive-based football team. Yes, sir. And you believe you bring in one guy and he's going to change your fortunes, your defense better not drop off.

They dropped off tremendously. But here's the thing. They were saying if the defense drops off, what's he supposed to do? Overcome that drop-off. But he wasn't there for the bowl to be able to overcome that drop-off. There you't there to overcome that drop off.

There you go. There you go. And that didn't happen. I just, look, I don't think he did him any favors in that building with his attitude,

the missed many camps, and to blow it off and pretend like it was nothing. The continuous going on the PMAC show, I don't think that helped. I don't think that helped their situation at all. But at the end of the day,

he made a decision that he felt that was in the best interest of him, and that's what he did. And so the Jets have no choice but to do what's in the best interest of them. And they didn't feel bringing him back was going to change anything. Because sometimes, Ocho, it's more than just on field. Sometimes the locker room,

look at, everybody talks about Jalen Hurts and what he is in the locker room. Everybody, look at when they talk about these quarterbacks, how they talk about Hurts, how they talk about and look, let's just go take Manning and take Brady, put them to the side.

Yes, sir. Look at how they talk about some of these other quarterbacks. I hurt. I'm going to put my homes to the side. But I'm going to talk about some of those guys that when we think about a pantheon that's going to be with a historically all-time great. Look at how his teammates in the organization talk about him. Yeah. About him.

All I know, there are a lot of talk coming out of Green Bay that, that they didn't involve him when it came to picking a new coach.

Right. They didn't involve him, but it's been reported that the CEO picked up the phone and says, don't you be the problem. Hmm.

We need a solution. problem. Your solution. It's just, it's going to be very interesting to see where it goes. Cause I think the thing is, look, we, we, we mentioned places.

The Raiders need a quarterback. Potentially new Orleans need a quarterback. Potentially New Orleans need a quarterback. Potentially Cleveland needs a quarterback. I like that. Jerry, Rodgers to Judy. Rodgers to Njoku. I like that. So I'm trying to think. I'm trying to, what other place?

Tennessee seems, they might take, I don't think, I think Tennessee's going to potentially trade down. But if you trade down, Rodgers is going to be available. Not going to cost you anything. Right. You take Rodgers, have Will Levis learn under him. That's a good move. That's a good move. Rodgers to Calvin Ridley?

I just don't get it. First of all, I don't know what the Tennessee is doing. What do you mean? First of all, they traded A.J. because they drafted Traylon Burns. The dude has one touchdown in two years. Three years, maybe. Okay, now you release Derrick Henry.

And I think Tony Pollard had an unbelievable season. But you trying to tell me you think Pollard was a better running back than Derrick Henry? We're not doing that, Ojo. We're not going to do that. So I don't, you know, and after what? After one season, two seasons, they fired their general manager, ran a car-a-thon, and they got somebody.

So I don't really kind of know what they're doing. Could I see them trading that pick, potentially? Right. But I think Aaron Rodgers fits there. He fits in Vegas, Cleveland. I'm trying to think where else. The Giants? The Giants are potentially looking at, remember,

we talked about the other day, Matthew Stafford. Going from Jersey to New York. If you can get Aaron Rodgers for free, just pick him up. You do that,

keep your pick. You keep that third pick in the draft. What are you thinking? That's tough. That's tough.

I just think it's going to be an issue wherever he goes. I think it's going to be an issue wherever he goes. Look at what he had with the Jets, and he only won six games. I'm just speaking from an offensive standpoint. Pittsburgh? Is Pittsburgh in play? I don't like the Pittsburgh look. Okay. I don't like the Pittsburgh look. Okay.

I don't like the Pittsburgh look. I just, nah. Listen, Tomlin ain't playing that. Tomlin is not playing that. I'm just saying, don't you? I mean, I'm just trying to throw out some places that could potentially use a quarterback. And I don't have to give up draft capital to get him. Right.

I mean, you said the best two. The best two was Cleveland and the Raiders. You don't like the Giants? Who needs them most? I mean, you know what? I like that. I like the Giants. I said that last week like the Giants.

I said that last week when we were on the show. Goddamn Aaron Rodgers to Malik Nabors. Malik Nabors had a great year. You get a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers in there, you never know. Then you got... Think about the Aaron Rodgers you're getting. You're getting maybe a humble Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is understanding my leash is very short now.

I can't get away with some of the things I used to be able to get away with because I don't have that leverage anymore. So I don't have a choice but to walk on eggshells because I'm already walking on a thin line on thin ice. You never know. I hope so. I mean, look, I think the thing is

I like to see guys play as long as they want to play, especially if they can contribute. I don't know if we're ever going to see the MVP Aaron Rodgers again. Do I think he can help a team?

Right. But what's your goals? You have to have a real strong... I mean, you know, a lot of times, those guys used to be guys to elevate. As they start to get aged, now you need to elevate them. Yeah. You see where Peyton Manning

went? He went to the Broncos. Yeah. Demarius Thomas, rest his soul. Eric Decker, Julius Thomas, no Sean Romino, outstanding... no Sean Rominoan Marino, outstanding defense. Offensive line was solidified. They had Clady, they had Basquez. Nice offensive line.

Okay, Tom, what did Tom do? Edelman and those guys started to get beat up. He goes to Tampa. What Tampa got, Ocho? Mike Evans, Chris Godwin. Yeah, you see? And they get grump. He goes to Tampa. What Tampa got, Ocho? Mike Evans. Chris Godwin. Yeah, you see? And they get grump to come out of retirement. Uh-huh.

You see? Defense. Hungry. Carl Bowles doing it. So now, where they can always elevate, now they need elevating. Right. Damn.

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Give me that money. Give me that money. Give me that money. Two weeks ago, Myle Garrett made it known his desire to leave Cleveland. The Browns reportedly won't do it, but Garrett apparently won't abandon his desire to go to a contender. The current odds at DraftKings have the Commanders as the betting favorite to land him. Next are the Eagles at plus 450, the Browns at plus 500 to keep him, the Bills plus 550, the Lions plus 650, the Bears plus 900.

For one, who has the money? Let's start there. Because he's going to want a contract extension. Yes, he's going to want a contract extension. Let's start there. Now, when it comes to bolstering the defense, I like him down there to the commanders. Oh, yeah, for sure.

I like it. Ocho, you're going to have to give up one of those D tackles. You're going to have to give up Allen. Allen. Well, listen. What's the other one named? 94? Yeah.

This is the thing. Think about it. The Commanders, you get that young bull over there with the Commanders. And let's say you do have one of your D-tackles. You're still going to get twice

or maybe three times the production your D-tackle would give you if you get Miles Garrett. And the Commanders have the third most salary cap space. Man, there it is. And you got a rookie contract, so you ain't got nothing to worry about for another two years.

For another two years, yeah. Man, it only makes sense. And with a quarterback like that, one of the things Myles Garrett was fussing about, I just want a chance. I just want an opportunity. With the quarterback they have over there and jayden daniels you're gonna always be in contention in that nfc you i love contention i love i love this so joe if i'm washington i'll give you two first

rounders on a young player yeah yeah absolutely absolutely Absolutely. Absolutely. And Josh Harris, I don't think you have a problem doing that. I give up this year's first, next year's first, and a third, and a young player. Absolutely. Yeah, I like it. I definitely like it. I also like to the Eagles as well. But again again what I don't like is the Eagles have such a great young core

defensively you don't want to mess it up you don't want to mess it up because the Eagles have opportunity and they have a chance to make a run like the Chiefs did they got a chance to make a run like the Chiefs did they go back and get another one

they can be on the verge of also having being in the same position that the Chiefs did, they go back and get another one. They can be on the verge of also being in the same position that the Chiefs were and having a three-peat. Yep. They got everybody locked up. Yeah. You know, they're probably going to lose sweat. You understand that?

Yeah. Somebody going to throw a boatload of money at them, old Joe. Listen, if sweat goes on the market Chance Hassan Reddick gets the opportunity to come on back I think the way he left See, that's what I'm saying, Ochoa

I understand the way he left but I know what he left on that field before he left though. I know what he can do on that field I know what he gives me at the defensive end I know what he did for that field before he left them. I know what he can do on that field. I know what he gives me at the defensive end. I know what he did for the Philadelphia Eagles. Howie knows that. Jeffrey Lurie knows that. This is business.

You know what? Sometimes you and your girl. Your girlfriend do you wrong. You taking a bat? Even though she was great in bed? You know what she do? You know how she treated you. Okay. That's a whole different sometimes you forget also i think sometimes you forget these men are human yeah they have feelings they have

emotion yes sir he quit he wouldn't come to camp remember yeah they end up having to trade him and then he did the same thing to green he did the same thing to jazz he held out for how long they understood that he was only he was he was getting traded in hopes of getting a new deal. Hell, that's why he wouldn't come to camp for the Eagles. So why would you trade him and not give him a goddamn deal? Understand? And that's why. I agree.

Yeah. You know, they wanted to play a hard ball. Another reason why they weren't successful. Not because of that, but just in general on how they run in the goddamn organization. Yeah. First of all, if you know a guy is holding out because he won a contract, if you trade for him, you better be willing to give him a contract. Easy. If you're not going to be willing to give him a contract, why the hell are you trading for him?

That made no sense to me. Oh, oh. When you come into camp and practice, we'll talk to you. That's a losing mind. Man, don't play at me. But, Ocho, he saw that team. They were loaded. Yeah.

They were loaded. Yeah. I trust Howie. I think the thing is, Howie's going to probably go to the draft. Yeah. Look, you might have to give up first. Hey, I know Howard Roseman to give up two first round draft picks. Hell, he gave up

what he gave up to get AJ. Mm-hmm. So, but I can see the commanders, the Bills need to try to move heaven and earth. They would. Yeah.

I mean, the Lions, the Lions definitely need to give up. Can you imagine him and Hutchinson? That ain't fair. That is absolutely not fair. It'll be very, very interesting to see what happens with Miles Garrett. I know they say they're not,

but somebody come in there and blow him away, Ocho. Now, I'm really trying to keep him out of the AFC, Ocho. So Buffalo is really down on my list. You know, all these other teams in the NFC, Ocho. If I see him, I'm going to have to see him in the Super Bowl, and I'm okay with that. But I don't want to see him any other time. We might have to play at some point, but I'm saying,

I don't want to have to deal with him. I'm definitely not trading him within my division. Right, right. But Bears in the NFC, Lions in the NFC, Eagles in the NFC, and the Commanders. So all things being equal,

if I do move him, I'm going to move him to the NFC. Hopefully they got a nice little package for me. Mm-hmm. Ocho, to move him to the NFC. Yeah. Hopefully they got something. Got a nice little package for me. Mm-hmm. Ocho, people are calling the Texas A&M, the Aggies, uniforms the worst in history.

What is this? A t-shirt with a t-shirt? What the hell is this? Basketball units? You know what? Somebody trying to do something different. I don't know who it was. I don't know who something different. I don't know who it was. I don't know who designed it. I don't know who designed it. Is that...

Ocho, you remember those jerseys they used to have in the NBA? Yeah. Those tight-fitting jerseys that they have? Yeah. I think that was like in 2015-16

because of LeBron. Yeah, LeBron. LeBron was living in his sleeve. Yeah, LeBron was living in his sleeve. Remember LeBron living in his sleeve? What is... That just looked like A compression

T Yeah A compression T With a T on it They trying to do Something different Be a little creative And thought it was

Going to hit But that ain't it That I'm all for doing Things different I'm all for doing Things different But come on now

Men look like skims Come on. How did it say? Oh, what they call that Nike Pro, that Nike Pro stuff? Oh, Tony, the guy be having all, that's what that is. That look like stuff you work out in.

Like you're supposed to look better and not an actual game uniform. They got to do better. They got to do better. Yeah, but you can't shoot with, I mean mean everybody complained about having those tight jerseys nobody really liked them that's why they ain't

last for the year in the NBA you don't want anything restricting anywhere around the shoulder part no or you want that free yeah those are

I don't know what y'all think of Texas A&M I don't think y'all gonna sell a lot of them either uh uh I don't know what y'all think it takes to send him. I don't think y'all gonna sell a lot of them either. Ocho, a husband threw away a wife's Valentine gifts that her boss got her. Let's take a look at the video, Ocho. You, but where you gonna sleep tonight?

I wonder where you gonna sleep tonight. Where are going to sleep tonight? I wonder where you going to sleep tonight. Where are you going to sleep tonight? Because you're not going to sleep here because you're not going to be throwing my gift that I received from my boss. Hold on. No, sir. No, I don't think so. Now. No, you need to leave.

Mesh. Hold on. I'm going to play this picture. Let's chat. Y'all want to play this picture? Let's Mesh. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm going to play this picture. Hey, chat, y'all want to play this picture? Let's just say. Come on, man. Rail works in corporate America. She come home, balloons, a couple of gifts, flowers.

Hey, Rail, where you getting that from? My boss got this for me. The floor is yours. We wouldn't be together? Oh, Joe, that could be innocent. That's innocent. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Come on.

Listen. Let me take my glasses off real quick. Hold on. I know I play around a lot. You know, I play around a lot. I make a lot of jokes. There's a lot of things that I don't play about, right? An individual that I'm dealing with

on how you move when you're attached to my name. Okay. I don't play them games. It's a certain thing about respect. And if you respect me, if you know your boss gave you something at work, you ain't even bringing that home just out of respect.

Whether it was anything. That's going in the trash. By the nearest gas station. It's going in the trash. And that's gas station. It's going in the trash. And that's just out of respect. I don't play them games. And the fact, let's say if you do bring them goddamn gifts in a house

where I'm probably paying them up for the bills and you trying to be funny, because that's what I'm considering. I'm considering you trying to be funny with it, I'm going to make it a comedy show. I'm not even going to say nothing. You want to be funny. I'm going to make it a comedy show. And that's just the way I've always been. You know right from wrong. You know about respect. You know what you should and shouldn't do. I'm not your guardian. I'm not your parents.

I'm not going to, I'm not going to scold you. I ain't going to say nothing. I just move accordingly to how you operate. Whatever you do, I'm doing the same too. But I got a better question. Talk to me now. I'm trying to figure out what have you been doing at work to make your boss feel comfortable enough to buy you something. Wait a minute. To get you flowers, to get you something? Wait a minute. To get you flowers?

To get you balloons? Wait a minute. That's where my head is. Yeah, wait. Not even that part, but did he do it for everybody or did he just do it for you? That's what I'm saying. First of all, you know he ain't buying everybody no gifts. Bosses are cheap. I ain't cheap,

but I damn sure nobody know Valentine's. I ain't cheap, but you ain't getting no Valentine's. As a matter of fact, I ain't even telling nobody happy Valentine's. What the hell is that? So that's what, I'm being, and Chad, I think y'all gonna back me up on this. For somebody to feel comfortable

enough to get your girl or your, and women, this applies to you, his boss or a co-worker feel comfortable enough to get your man flowers, to get your man balloons, to get your man a gift. A gift in general.

And you know what else that means? That means she's already put her boss in a comfortable position where he feels it's okay to do so. There you go. And see, I ain't got no problem with the boss. Because I ain't in no relationship with the boss. At all.

I'd never check a guy about somebody I'm dealing with. Never. That's your job. Ever. Ever. Never. I ain't never approached no... Hey, a i i got a question for you yes and i'll chat y'all stay with me real quick and i'm there's a couple of fellas fellas in here and it just goes

back to just the thought about respect and other guys doing things and women trying to move and just, just, it's, you can be honest with me. Have you ever been the side dude at any point in your life? Be honest. I mean, we family, we could talk and I break a hell fellas in the chat. Have you ever been the side dude? I'm just,

I just, just be, you can be honest on, you can talk to me. We family. Bro, I'm about to be 57. I'm pretty sure I have. No, I'm just, I just, just be, you can be honest on, you can talk to me. We family. Bro, I'm about to be 57. I'm pretty sure I have.

No, I'm saying, have you knowingly been inside dude with understanding how things work, how women lie, how women are sneaky. Just, you can be honest. I mean,

it ain't. Okay. Okay. But here's the thing. Okay. It's for me, but then I just, I did. I just remember like, you know what?

I just have to remove myself. Because the longer you're in a situation, Ocho, man, I mean, it's hard. It's hard. Things are going to get involved. You start talking to that person. You spend time with that person. You be intimate with that person. It's hard to just keep, okay,

you got him, I got... Nah. Eventually somebody gonna break. It ain't hard. It ain't hard. It ain't hard. Because why would you, with a great understanding as number two,

you get all the fun. You ain't got no responsibilities. You get the best version of her. Why the hell would I want to be promoted to number one and I'm living the life? He got to deal with winning. He got to deal with closing.

I don't get that though, Ocho. You know I don't get that. Women sleep with 700 guys. They want to settle down with me. You and I I asked the Lord to send me somebody and he damn sure wasn't me hey

I'm just like the other guys I'm just dropping this package off to you baby oh no it ain't me he ain't send me to you he sent me to drop off what the other ones dropped off and I'm about out of here. But I'm just,

I'm saying that and using that analogy for better context with the whole boss thing and the company. And feeling comfortable enough to bring a package that someone else gave you

and bring it home into a house where I'm assuming the man, you know, pays the bills. If she's that comfortable, she already doesn't respect you. She already doesn't.

And then you got to hear her say, well, when you go to sleep. What? Yeah, that's why I never, I never, like, after I heard my grandmother say how when she was living on somebody else's property, how those people would come by and bring five, six, seven loads of clothes on Sunday after they get back from church, Ocho. Right.

And they would have to have those clothes washed. So now you got to start a fire and put those clothes in that pot to get the hot water. Yeah. And you got to have those clothes ready by Monday. Yeah. And they say, well, Lou, if you don't have these clothes ready, you're going to have to move on. I say, oh, no,

I'm never going to let somebody put me in that situation. Sheesh. Hey, that's one of the worst feelings ever, boy. Nah, hell nah. That's why you always hit me when I say something that I've always mastered. I've always, and I've mastered it to a t with the kind of discipline i had when it came to being great at the game of football managing my expectations because i was on the other side of the fence for so long because i was on the other

side of the fence for so long i have great understanding that it can happen to me so when it does happen to me it's easy for me to compartmentalize and remove myself it's easy now you on the other hand we rethink differently but i i already go into i'm not i'm just speaking in general i already go into situations with great understanding well hell if i was on the other side of the fence well who the hell am i to have the motherfucking ego and pride to think it can't happen to me. For sure. Oh, I'm not no fool. I ain't no goddamn dummy.

Yeah. But anyway, I just can't believe she actually brought the gifts home and had the nerve to record it. Do you think that was Throw that in his face.

You think that was a skit or that was real? Ain't no telling. I think the thing is for me, Ocho, hey, back in the day, if you saw

a UPS in your girl phone, that was me. I was dropping off a package once a week. Hold on, UPS? Yeah. I was dropping off a package once a week. That's all, Ocho. That's it. That was the call, Scylla.

Hey, you know what's funny? What can Brown do for you? You know what's funny? Just for better context, too, you were your UPS package off once a week. How long did it take to deliver something? Not long. Because I'm on the clock. Man, listen.

You see UPS? They get under the truck, they're running. FedEx, they're running. As soon as they hit the seat, step on the gas, the car goes. That's how it was. The car running. I leave my car running. And for better context, that's as long as it take. Yeah.

That's as long as it take. What's that jiffy loop slogan? In nine, ten minutes, you get an all change. Hey. A-double-O-P-S-A. You been in NASCAR, you see them P-S-T-O-C-K. Yeah. They dragging a whoop-whoop. No. Like-S-A. You pay the NASCAR, you see them Pistons. Yeah. They dragging them.

On the way. I'm gone. Like I always say, the famous saying, the game is the game. And it will always be the same. That's why you got to learn how to play it. Yeah. It's, uh... Yeah, don't bring that back no more. Don't bring that, uh, lady, don't bring that back no more.

Don't bring that, uh, lady, don't bring the packages home. Somebody give you something? Listen. Where'd it work? If someone gives you a package and you bring it home, she don't respect you. Yeah. She don't respect you.

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All right, Ochoa, it's time for our final segment of the evening. Let's start with Q&A. I enjoyed this tonight, boy. This was a good one, bro. Hey, you ain't say nothing about my Bocelli jacket, man. We ain't even talking about the concert. Andre Bocelli? Yeah, man. That thing was beautiful, boy. Isn't he blind? Yeah, he can't see.

He had an accident as a child. Okay. I thought so. Beautiful concert, man. Well, ain't nothing wrong with his voice. Oh, absolutely not. Aaron Owen says, what's up, Uncle Docho? Mack McClung versus Zach Levine, Aaron

Gordon, all three best in the dunk contest. Who you taking? Well, why you left out Ja Morant? Because I got Ja Ovala. Boy, that'll be a good one yes sir Matt

Zach Aaron Gordon I still got I still got McClung winning I still got McClung winning because I know

he can do more from a creative standpoint yeah and it just but I mean having seen Zach Levine and some of the dunks he did, and seeing Aaron Gordon and some of the dunks he did,

man, hey. What you think? I think, Ocho, for me, it's going to be all about who's judging. Because what you like, Ocho, you like creativity. Creativity. If you think about it, Ocho, all these guys right here don't miss a lot of dunks. So you're going to get a lot of first dunks. Yeah.

First make attempts. Yeah. Ooh, ooh. I think it's going to be McClung against Levine. I thought, wait, Levine is what, 6'7"? 6'6". Okay, oh, so he's Jordan Height, like Kobe. Yeah. Nah, I still got

I still got McClung boy you got McClung yeah he can do more and the fact that he's only 6'2 when he execute these dunks it just looks different it looks better and the thing you know what it is Ocho he's a 2 foot jumper yeah so he's getting

maximum elevation now if you look at Levine, Levine is more of a one-foot dunker. Aaron Gordon is a two-foot dunker. Dominique was a two-foot dunker. Jordan is a one-foot dunker. Yeah. So they're going to glide.

McClung is going to elevate you like that. Yeah. And you know who else was real springy too that played for the Lakers? Remember Shannon Brown? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Man, effortlessly. Bouncing. Yeah. Yeah, he had crazy ups. Mm-hmm. Rude broadcast.

NFL 13-minute halftime show was better than the NBA as we can corner celebrity game busted Saturday night Adam Silver better start thinking with his M&M shape I don't I don't really know I don't really know Ocho what they can do so they got to leave it in the players' hands. Nah, that's what got them in this position. That's what got them in this position. I don't know.

Listen, when we did the segment earlier in the show, I was thinking really hard, and I'm one creative son of a gun. And I couldn't think of nothing. Dexter Jones said, keep it a buck up. This is all LeBron James' fault. That's a good one.

That's a good one. That's a good one. Dexter, I'm'm gonna have to disagree Dark said there's no format change That will make players give an F All it takes is them trying I totally agree They stop trying

And they game with the ish The only way it's gonna come back up Is they start trying again And it's only one way to get them to try I don't care how much money they make If you add a little to the pot They gonna play That's the world we live in Only one way to get them to try. I don't care how much money they make. If you add a little to the pot, they going to play. That's the world we live in.

Listen. Hey, uh, M said, I think it's because the players don't hate each other. They like, uh, like they did back in the day.

Well, everybody didn't hate each other back then. It was just a select few. Yeah. It was just a select few. Yeah. It was just a select few back then. But it's not like it is now. I mean, a lot of these guys played on the same AAU team.

They've been knowing each other since they were 9 or 10. A lot of these guys, Magic said he knew about Bird, but this was like when they was trying out for the, what, the 80 before the 80s got boycotted the 80 Olympics. But they wasn't playing no AAU ball, no traveling teams

like it is now, Ocho. Yeah, but even if they did play AAU ball, when it's time, when they in regular season, they actually play. They actually play because they're competing. Now you get to the All-Star game, there's no competing. this is our but Ocho

this is PT but the thing about Ocho a lot of these guys you know Zion and John Marant playing on the same traveling team

yeah mom bringing cookies and milk y'all riding the bus together y'all riding the cars together right

a lot of these guys been knowing each other since they were 9 or 10 it's hard to build up animosity with someone that you know personally for that length of time. Yeah. You know,

and you don't really need animosity. I'm just saying, to my point, is you don't need animosity to be able to go out there and compete and say, you know what,

I'm from the bus show, you know what. I don't want to curse so bad, but anyway, I'm from the bus show, you know what. Now, I don't care how long

we play together, you're not going to embarrass me in a game of basketball that's competitive with the back of my jersey with millions of people watching. I'm coming to show up and show out. Right. Dexter Jones says it's leadership. You say you don't know when it happened.

Look at all the All-Star games after Kobe left. So what about the other guys? So LeBron got together and said, okay, guys, we ain't going to play hard today. But you know LeBron could be the one. You know what LeBron got to do? You know what Kobe did? Kobe went out there and played like it was

a regular season game. What happens if LeBron goes out there and plays hard? What do you think everybody else is going to do? They're going to follow what they've been doing. They're going to follow. Nah, shh, nah. Will LeBron go out there

and go balls to the wall or everybody's going to follow? Mmm, no. Baby Jesus 4-4 says the NBA should take notes from NHL. Split the teams by nation and maybe they'll play for pride.

I usually don't watch hockey, but I have these past few days and it's been exciting. I agree. What was it? It was the U.S., Canada, Finland, and Sweden. Hmm. I think that was the nation's...

No, because I think the U.S. beat Canada last night, and I think Finland beat Sweden. I like hockey. Well, they need to try something cause this uh this what they had the last 4 or 5 years and this format tonight that wasn't it

big uh big Mike big Mike said someone broke it down in total in the minutes played for the 3 games it was a total of 30 minutes

41 seconds 2 hours and 26 minutes of everything else man it is entertaining but 41 seconds, 2 hours and 26 minutes of everything else. Man. It is entertaining, but sometimes you can do too much. Maybe I'm a Browns fan, but I believe Rodgers would have the same or better with Stefanski offense and elevate like Joe Flacco could. Yeah, he knows the offense.

It's the West Coast offense. I agree. NFL matchup highlights. What's up, Uncle Ocho? Love the show. I got a question for Ocho. Ocho, I know Rivas, a champ, two of the best DBs you faced. You also faced Crow,

Antonio Cromartie, Nnamdi Asamoah, and Al Harris. How great were those guys in their prime? Oh, man, they were good. They were the real deal. They were the real deal, especially Al. Al was the real deal, especially in bump and run. Al and Mike McKenzie, they ain't playing at all. They right in your face.

They right in your grill. They going to talk to you. Al going to talk to you. Crow was really good. Crow had that long stride. Really good in transition. You know, he had okay technique. Nnamdi, long. Very know, he had okay technique. Nnamdi,

long, very lengthy, very lengthy, longs. He was good with his hands. He was a player that played man to man, especially with the Raiders.

You know, I don't know what happened to him when he went to Philly. When he went to Philly, I don't know what happened either, but when he was with Oakland, man, listen,

he was nice up there. I had the opportunity to play with him once out there in the black hole Revis obviously Revis technician everything ball skills everything he needs I mean everything Revis

reminds me of what Derek Stingley is right now not the quick twitch and all that I think Revis is a little bit more patient when it comes to playing the position but as far as everything else Revis is a little bit more patient when it comes to playing the position. But as far as everything else... Revis ain't never going for the first move.

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. And I say it all the time. When I talk about Revis, I say Revis had the patience of Sally Mae. Because think about all the people that owe loans.

Sally Mae ain't getting them loans no time soon. And that's how patient goddamn Revis was at that line. And he always played bum. Had a nice arm bar. And as soon as the arm bars, once you pass maybe eight or seven yards,

eight or nine yards, he getting his eyes right back. Yep. He getting his eyes behind him to make sure to locate the ball to see what it is. And he had elite ball skills where most DVs panic. He never panicked. Never panicked. Yeah. If you don't stack him, you ain't catching it.

Yeah, you ain't catching it. If you don't stack Rivas, he't catching it. Yeah, you ain't catching it. If you don't stack Revis, he going to run your ass right out of bounds. He going to be hip to hip with you. Every time. And you know what? And he wasn't fast, huh? He wasn't no speed merchant. His technique was so good, he was always in position to make a play,

and he had a smooth-ass armbar. Damn, I curse. Oh, yeah. He had a smooth armbar just to make sure he kept himself in position to make a play, and usually he had a smooth-ass armbar. Damn, I curse. Oh, yeah. He had a smooth armbar just to make sure he kept himself in position. Yep. Vivian Ekime Ogunocho, just say thanks a lot for all you do. I received my beanie.

I'm wearing it now. Thank you, Vivian. Greatly appreciate that. What's my beanie? It's Finland. Yes, it's Finland and Sweden. What am I being? I was like, U.S. and Canada, Finland and Sweden. Did I say that, Jordan?

Oh, you're saying they're players. I don't know if Finland is. I mean, a player could be named Finland or Sweden or Canada. Is there a person named Canada? I don't think there's a player named USA. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said, hey fam, people always talk about pressure making diamonds. Do you think pressure

reveals who you really are or creates who you become? Love y'all. Pressure make diamonds. Everybody can't take that pressure off. You can't. In all different facets of life, whether it be work, whether it be sports, you know, whether it be relationships, you know, pressure bust pipes. Yeah.

The time pressure make you fold. Pressure is what you feel when you're not prepared or you don't know what the hell you're doing. I said, man, man, hold on. Oh, I didn't let him know that. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. What? Bring that back home to me now mmhmm

pressure when you're not prepared or you don't know what the hell you're doing like that I like that I like that but also due to the circumstance of a situation

that also brings pressure as well even if you are prepared what could they do in a game that you practice all week what could they do prepare it all week you watch the tape

you know down in distance you know area of the field you know what they like to do on second first and ten second and five third and three

one to three third and five to seven third and long nickel dime yep doesn't matter all you gotta do is execute.

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