Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2: Unc and Ocho are joined by track phenom Kenny Bednarek to talk the World Championships in Japan
Episode Date: September 21, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are joined by track phenom Kenny Bednarek to discuss him winning the silver medal in the World Championships in Japan, Bleacher report releases ...their Franchise QB list, and the Atlanta Falcons cut Younghoe Koo and much more!00:00 - Bleacher Report's Franchise QB List5:35 - Kenny Bednarek11:55 - Play or Fade58:50 - Falcons cut kicker Younghoe Koo55:50 - Q & Ayyyyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Oh, Joe, you're not going to like this.
Bleacher Report.
Just released the list saying only four NFL quarterbacks are true franchise quarterbacks.
Number one, my homeboy.
Number two, Josh Allen.
Number three, Lamar Jackson.
Number four, Matthew Stafford.
They said the following player just missed the cut.
Joe Burrow, for the most, for the most,
Joe Burrow already finds himself among the top tier.
However, he needs to be on the field to truly earn that designation.
Multiple injuries throughout the years have blunted this standing,
despite one of the best, the game's best and most efficient passers.
Jalen Hertz, when nitpicking over the actual, the best game,
game is important position, he's still difficult to envision
hurts, shouldering the entire Eagles offense with a less
talented around him and still being as successful.
Joy and Love has as long as he minimized
turnovers and helped push the young receiver's targets found
on the Packers roster, the fifth year quarterback has a chance to be
counted among the league's best.
Jay and Daniels, Daniels has quite a good start to a
sophomore campaign.
Daniel has every tool to be successful to succeed.
He just needs to, on a consistent basis.
Baker Mayfield, his competitiveness and enthusiasm are infectious.
Though in the 2019, 2018, the number one overall pick does benefit from an awesome wide receiver
core and good offensive line when healthy.
He also doesn't have quite the same playmaking capabilities as others did that made the list.
Ocho, they say they got four.
They got Mahon boy, Josh Allen, Lamar, Matthew Stafford.
They say the next tier was Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurst,
Jordan Love, Jane Daniels, and Baker Mayfield.
You got a problem with that four.
I don't have a problem with that four,
but the whole point of the list was teams
that have franchise quarterbacks, I thought, right?
Fruit try, yes.
Yeah, well, they can't,
They can't choose the tiers based on franchise quarterbacks.
We're not talking about who's the best.
We're just talking about teams that have franchise quarterbacks.
The bankers have a franchise quarterback, whether he gets hurt or not.
Where you got to be on the field.
Come on.
Oh, come on.
Don't do that because he heard.
But that's what I'm saying.
That's why they docked it.
Okay, okay.
Because think about, Ocho, first year, what did you do?
First year, ACL.
Right, right, right.
What, the third year, it was, what was his hand or his shoulder?
Yeah, I think it's wrist.
His wrist.
Yeah, it's risk.
Now, if, hold on, what is it now?
Oh, what are you hurting that?
Remember his toe, his toe.
His toe, yeah, turthole.
Yeah.
So there's a possibility, Ocho, he can miss.
He's coming back in December.
He'll be back in December.
That's if everything goes perfect.
Oh, it's definitely going well.
It's going to go well.
I'm not talking about he's going to be fine,
especially with technology and stuff.
But brother Jake Browning, you're going to see tomorrow.
I don't mean this.
I'm going to speak things in existence.
You know, my grandma always told me anything you want.
All you have to do is speaking into existence.
Well, we're from to beat the brakes off Minnesota, man.
We're from the beat, breaks off Minnesota and Carson wins.
Huh?
But now, back to the topic of hand,
there are the small selection of quarterbacks teams that have franchise
quarterbacks.
Justin Herbert is a franchise quarterback.
Jalen Hurst is a franchise quarterback.
They're going on specific.
based on the way they win
as Knox. Oh, because he doesn't
pass well, because they didn't have a lot. No,
they had nothing to do with it. There are teams
that have quarterback that you can build around
Jay Daniels, C.J. Straub,
these are franchise altering quarterbacks.
For the next 10 years, these
teams don't have to do anything except build
around those quarterbacks.
So I agree
with the four, but there are
others that belong
in that category. And if we talk about
the best quarterbacks, then you can put
them in tears. You can
do that. You can nitpick
when we talk about tears and who's better
but the topic was
what teams have franchise quarterbacks
and those are quarterbacks that you don't
have to touch or be worried about
and just have to build around them.
I think
plus you've got to look at the franchise quarterback.
If I took
if I took Jayne, if I took
Jaylon Hurts and I gave him
Patrick Mahomes
offense, could he get that team?
into a Super Bowl. Could he do what he did and feel it?
Oh, that's different. That's different.
I like that. Because that's what
they're saying. When they look at a franchise
quarterback, they said if
it's kind of like the Joe's situation,
if we remove the hedge,
which is the greatness of
that offensive line, if we removed that
running game, we took A.J. Brown, we took
Devonte, and let's just say we
gave you Kansas City's offense.
Right. Okay. Let's just
say we gave you Buffalo's
offense. Could you still
be, could you still get that team
to the playoffs? Could you still go win a
Super Bowl? I see, I like, I like that
you did that. Now, when you did that, that changes
the whole dynamic. That changes
everything. Because you can put Mahomes on any
team and he'll have success. You can put
Lamar Jackson on. So what would my home look like
with that, with a Philly's
offensive line, that running game, and those
receivers?
That wouldn't be fair.
Oh, you put Josh, put Josh Allen
in that, to put Josh Allen in that sister.
Put Lamar Jackson in it.
Put Lamar in there, okay, if I turn around, if I take Patrick Mahomes and I put him in Lamar system, it's going to be the same thing.
If I put Josh, if I took Matthew Stafford and put him in Philly.
Hey, listen, and you got to think, everybody you mentioned in, you talk about gunslingers.
Yes.
Just having the addition of a running back and an officer line like that, if you put any of those quarterbacks in Philly, it's almost unfair.
Right.
It's almost unfair when you think about it.
So, look, I understand, because I think the thing is, oh, Joe, you're like, oh, he's really good.
Yeah.
There's always only been, like, like, franchise altering.
Yeah.
There's only been a handful of them.
Mm-hmm.
In every, in the 80s you go back, you go back, look at the 90s, you go back, you look at the 2000s, you look at the tens.
And there's only been a handful of them.
There's never been 10 franchise quarterbacks.
We just now, anybody that has a good, a good year, they're a franchise quarterback now.
where we used to make guys play three, four good years
before we bestowed that title on.
That's where we used to be, Ocho, with any position,
not just the quarterback.
Right.
Bro, you couldn't just go to the Pro Bowl
and then all of a sudden say,
I'm a top flight, a Y receiver or X, Y, Z.
Oh, Ocho, we got a very special guest joining us today.
Hey, this guy won the silver medal
in the 200 meters in Tokyo.
The World, in Tokyo, the Olympic game,
in 2024, he backed up.
again he won the silver medal again
and the world championships in Eugene
in 24 he won the silver medal
in the 200. In Tokyo, just the
other day, he won the silver medal
and the 200 meters. At some point
in time he says, I keep knocking on the door
I'm going to be the first one to be
the first one to get in the house.
Kenny, your fourth championship
you get silver. How
difficult, because I know you're in great
condition, you drop down to the 100,
everything was perfect. You got great
endurance, you got great speed, you're
built that. I know you please look. You got on the podium. And at the end of the day, yeah,
hey, I podium. But the goal, what you got to do to get the goal, Katie? And I just got to work
on the small little things. I mean, like you said before, I'm in really good shape. I have the
endurance. I got the speed. I got everything. I just got to figure out how to get that last 10 meters
because that's where it seems like it's been, you know, just getting away from me. Right there, right there.
You're right there.
Yeah.
Because, hey, this last race, kid, I thought, I said, oh, damn, look at Kitty.
Hey, he pulled up on you.
You're like, okay, you pulled ahead.
And like you said, it was that last 10 meters.
I was like, damn, Kenny.
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I would say for this championship,
this was the best second half I ever had in a while.
Because usually I always tend to get in the lead and I kind of give it away.
But, yeah, as soon as LaVelle kind of got right next to me is just,
hey, make sure not to panic.
I already know that I'm in good shape.
Just keep on going.
And, you know, doing that from Lane 8, that's all I can ask for.
So, I mean, yeah, it's like a little bittersweet moment right now for me
because I've always been knocking on that door.
But, you know, eventually I'm going to get it because every single year.
You go kick the door in, huh?
I'm going to put my foot in that door.
Hey, first off, I want to say congratulations.
And I wanted to take me through what is like that moment before you get in the blocks.
What's that feeling like crowd?
Is it quiet?
Or do you hear the noise?
Do you have butterflies? Are you nervous?
I'm curious what that feeling is like before that gun goes off of you.
I feel like younger me, the nerves are really there.
But now, you know, I'm a vet now and I've been here for a very long time.
But yeah, I just embrace the moment.
I mean, the crowd doesn't get too big for me.
I literally stare at the crowd right before the race and like, okay, it's go time.
And as soon as, you know, they stay set, you know, everything is ready to go.
I'm in that flow state.
So just trying to execute my race and go.
Okay, okay.
I like it.
Kenny, man, all I want to know is, man, look, we got all these fast 100-meter guys.
Can we get the baton around the track?
That's all I want to know, Kenney.
Can we get, can we look, I mean, far too many times on the global stage, Kenny, we got the fastest men, but somehow the baton end up on the track or we get out, we get out of our passing lanes.
Can we get it around the track tomorrow?
Hey, we for sure going to do it.
I mean, well, we got eight more hours to go, so I'm getting ready for that.
But we've been practicing hard and we're ready to go.
I mean, like you said before, we always have the foot speed,
but it's more so the precision of the baton and just making sure to do our job, man.
We're going to get the job done this time.
Okay.
Let me see if I get this right.
Okay.
Kristen Coleman is going to start it off.
He's the greatest starter in American history.
Yeah.
Are you still at second leg or did they move you to third?
I think I'm still in second.
I mean, that's where I feel like I'm best utilized and, you know,
I'm going to make sure to do my job.
So we're going to handle our business.
in it comes to that.
Obviously, no one's going to be on the anchor.
And when he's been anchor, we have yet to lose.
Yeah.
So who goes third?
I think Courtney Lindsay, my training partner.
So, yeah, I think, you know, the good thing about this relay squad is, you know,
Christian's my teammate, Courtney's my teammate.
So we already have that chemistry.
So I think everything's going to.
Okay, okay.
Just keep it close.
Just keep it close.
Because you know, Canada, they piled in their chair, the garage.
He pided his chair and he do it all there.
I don't want to see none of that.
I always be none of that tomorrow.
Like I said, we're going to handle business.
I mean, Canada, you know, they always kind of, they always get things right.
They're sneaky.
I want to say they're sneaky, but I mean, they've been using the same squad for the last, what, eight years or something like that?
So they got, they got those handoffs down.
So we just got to make sure to do our job when we do that, then we're good.
You're one of the few guys that's ever been able to run, you know, sub 20.
You know, you run sub 45.
It was really shaky.
It was really shaky for the 400 meters.
We had to run against, I think it was the Kenyans or somebody,
it was just two people, just two teams.
And it was basically whoever finished first.
Ah, I saw the Botswana team.
Hey, they're looking good.
I'm scared.
I ain't going to lie to you, Kitty, Katie, I'm scared.
They go one, three, five, and they didn't even have Tobogo.
If they bring Tobolgo, they ran 257 without Tobol.
go. I'm nervous, Kenney. I'm like a long-tailed dog on a porch full of rocket chairs.
I'm nervous like that, Kenny.
Hey, I mean, I trust that they're going to handle their business.
I mean, last year it was a very close race, and it's going to be wired or wired for this one, too.
So they just got to make sure to do their job.
And, you know, we're going to see who finished first.
Can we get, they're going to let Vern? They're going to let the old man.
I mean, because y'all know, Vern is a gamer.
They call them an old man.
Byrne is a gamer. Verne is a gamer.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I haven't spoken to the coaches.
I don't really know what team they're going to put up,
but, you know, they're going to put the best players down,
and like I said, it's going to be wire to wire.
So it's going to be a blast to watch that race.
The only thing I'm certain of is Rod running anchor leg.
He said something very interesting yesterday.
I don't know if you heard him.
Did you hear what he said?
He's not going to run very many hurdles.
He's looking at him coming down to the four and the two.
Oh, you said that?
That's your tarot.
Yeah, that's what Ryan said.
Now, if it's a lie, he told it.
Man, he don't want to come.
He don't want to come down to the two.
We got too many people.
He says, I'm not going to run as many hurdle races.
I'm doing four and the two.
That's what he said.
You can step into the Lions Den, but he ain't going to do anything there.
Oh, I'm just too.
Now, you know, hey, now I'm going to broach this.
That's what you said.
I'm going to say, right?
We had Kung Fuong, and he said, you can come to the Lions Den if you want to.
He said, you're okay, but it ain't nothing pop it down here now.
you guys will go ahead and stay with the hurdles
deal with Dos Santos, deal with
Warholme, deal with Samba.
Don't come fooling with me.
Me and no, don't do that.
Hey, yeah, don't do that.
You can stick with the floor, but don't
come down to that too.
And it's sweet.
Hey, Kenny, outside of track,
I mean, I know you guys are busy,
obviously when you're locked in, when you're in season.
We like to be outside of track.
Do you have any hobbies? Do you have anything else
that you're passionate about, that you like to spend your time,
pack time doing?
I like to do anything
that just requires me
to be outdoors.
It can be simple things
just like ATV,
just sitting by a bonfire
being with friends and family.
I like skiing,
playing basketball.
I like playing video games.
Oh, whoa, whoa.
What do you play?
I've been playing Madden,
2K every now and then.
Okay.
Well, you play Madden?
I'm the best Madden playing the world.
What do you mean do I play Madden?
Man, I probably could beat you right now.
Can you probably not even that good?
Can I tell you something?
What?
Can you can't even beat me in the 200 if we race, Kenny?
What'd you say?
Hey, you better bring your spikes right now.
Hey, my spikes right here in the trunk.
Yeah, you better put those on right now.
I'll see you soon.
Okay, let me know.
Whenever you're in Miami.
Matter of fact, I can come to you.
Yeah, come to me.
Okay.
No problem.
We can do that.
We can film.
You can probably, like, 22, 23 seconds?
23.
Eight, nine.
You know what I ran at, when I ran in high school?
What did you run at high school?
19-2.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, I ran 19-2 in high school.
Hey, another thing I was going to say, I also, I also started picking up some kung fu stuff, you know, because my whole thing is Kung Fu Kenny.
So this year, this year I started doing a little bit of that.
But I had to be careful because obviously, you know, being a sprinter and everything, there's a lot of things I can do, can't do.
But you ski and you ain't thinking about you being a sprinter, you ski and you're riding ATVs.
You're doing a lot of stuff that can really, that's really detrimental to somebody that needs their legs.
Yeah, I know.
My girlfriend, Lydia, she'd be telling me not to do these things, but I'm like, bro, I need to do something to let my brain kind of be at ease because, you know, I do track as a job.
I used to, you know, it used to be just for love and now it's a job.
So I got to do something outside to go back to be, okay, I can do what I can do again.
but yeah it's just hard to you know figure out what exactly i want to do outside so i'll do things
i'm really not supposed to every now and then but you know just one time there's nothing wrong
with one time yeah so let me look we saw the net we saw the USA's and we saw the 200 and you said
hey this is a this is going to be the day that i get it done and we thought and you were so close
and then no kind of nipped yet at the tape and then kind of gave you a shove uh you
So what happened?
Yeah, you shoved him.
Yeah, I shugged him.
So I'm just trying to figure out what happened.
We just had a little beef that was kind of going on.
Did it start before the race or do it started after he looked at you like some kind of he looked at you sideways?
It started before the race.
So then, you know, once, you know, we crossed the finish line and I saw that, you know, I gave him that shove.
And, you know, we both could have handled the situation a little bit different.
We both have mutual respect.
for each other, but, you know, I don't, I don't play when it comes to stuff like that.
Right.
And all I can say is that, you know, every single time I step on track, you know, I want to
whoop his ass.
That's what I'm going to say.
He'll stop looking at you.
If you beat him, Katie, you got to beat him.
Yeah, I know.
Like I said, he's been getting the better to me for years.
So, like I said, I'm just trying to improve myself every single time I step on the track,
every single year.
I've been getting better, stronger, faster.
And that time is coming soon.
Yeah.
And Kenny, there's really nothing wrong with a little friendly competition.
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely good for the sport.
I mean, the fact that everything, you mean, when I did, I didn't think anything of it.
And then, you know, it was all over the news.
I was like, oh, okay, I guess this happened.
You didn't think nothing of it.
You sure the man in the back and you ain't think nothing of it.
Hey, I said, it's spur of the moment.
But like I said, we discussed about it.
And, you know, we're on the same page and we got that mutual respect for each other.
But, yeah, it's definitely good for a sport.
We need healthy rivalries right that.
So every single time we, you know, like I said, I stepped down in the 100.
You know, I didn't do what I wanted to do when it came to the finals.
But, you know, I was in really good shape to do something crazy in that 100 finals.
So, you know, I'm just excited for the next years, you know.
Oh, yeah.
There are the rumors swirling that that burner count trackspice, that that might be you.
No, that's not me.
Hey, all I can say about that is that me, my social media team, we don't.
what, we don't handle that account at all.
I mean, when it comes to that, that's just noise.
And I just try to ignore that.
I mean, that's all drama.
For me, I just focus on on track.
And, you know, people are going to say what are going to say.
They're going to believe me, whether they believe me or not, it doesn't really matter
to me.
Let me ask you something.
You witnessed this.
You saw Sid, one year, who, she took the 400 meters.
She said, you know what?
I'm going to sit the hurdles aside.
And I'm just going to focus my attention on the 400.
And we see in one year, not only.
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Did she win the USA's?
She goes on the global stage and runs the second fastest time that's ever been run.
A lot of people like, I mean,
Think about how many women have run 40, they're like, nobody's going to do it.
I didn't think I was going to see a woman be able to, because really when you think about it,
no one has really come close.
I mean, think about nobody, nobody has come within a half a second of Coke's record until Sid,
when she ran 48, 29, I said, well, knowing that who's in this race, because you know,
Kenny, in order to get a fast time or world record or championship record, you need two things.
You need competition in the race
And you need conditions
Now, she didn't get the conditions
But she got Paulino
And she got Nasser
And when she got them, she knew
Because when Paulino got Lane 8
She knew
And Pauline did something she normally
She don't normally go out like that
NASA's always going to take it out
So if I'm sitting there, I'm thinking
Bobby Kersey probably told her NASA's going to take it out
Attach yourself to Nassar
Let her pull you to Paulino
you're strong enough in the last 100 to bring it home.
When you saw her run, when you saw her get out and she was smooth
and you saw that time, what went through your mind
when you saw 4778?
I was a surprise.
I mean, after seeing Cindy do what she did in the previous race,
I was just like, world record?
I think she can hit it.
Wow.
Sydney, Sydney's a gamer.
Like, she's a dog.
I mean, you know, we've seen what she's done in the hurdles.
I wasn't sure exactly what she was going to do when she was.
She came down to the four.
You know, the first race she ran, I was like, okay, that looked pretty good.
But, yeah, she's a hard worker.
And, I mean, yeah, that's insane.
Yeah, I don't know what she's going to do after this year.
But I feel like, hey, you should just go after that world record.
You're so close.
You might as well just go after it.
I mean, the hurdles right now for her just, you know, that's her main event.
And it's easy for her.
So, you know, just test yourself what she did this year and just try to get that world record next year.
I think the thing, what she really wants to do, Kenny, she wants to take that.
She wants to take the hurdles under 50.
because she knows that she said
she puts that record under 50
that record might be like Flojo 100 meters
it might be like Flojo's 200 meters
that's what she wants
it might be like Coke's 400 meter
record because something that like
when you think about it
ain't I mean you can say
well what's it call them at 1050
1054
Elaine Thompson ran 1054
Flojo ran 1049
I'm like
I mean she had everything perfect
I mean wasn't nobody close to Flojo
when she was really
those times. But you really, you really think you think in the next year, because I think
Bobby is positioning her, he's going to position the committee, we'll do the 4-4, because
that's all there is left. There's really nothing left. She runs the hurdle. Can't nobody beat
unless she hits her hurdle and falls down. But as far as just like, okay, there's a competition
somebody lined up, Femke can't see her because Femke doesn't have the foot speed. I understand
Femke, she's unbelievable, and she can beat everybody.
else, but it's kind of like being in
an era with Usain. There were some
fast guys in Usain era. It just
weren't Usain. There's some great
hurdles in Sydney's era.
It's just not Sydney. Yeah, she's
just a different breed. I mean,
like so next year's, next year's an off year.
We got ultimate championships, so I don't
know what's in store for her, but
I mean, like I said, she definitely can just
go after that whenever she wants to.
So we'll see. Tell me what the ultimate
championships is. So is that just the USA's
because the world's, like every odd,
year. So we had 25, we had the world's. We're going to have the worlds again in 27 and then you
got the Olympics in 28. So as an off year in 26, what's the ultimate championships? Explain that
to us. So the ultimate championships is just some like new event that World Athletics is, you know,
having in September. It's kind of, it's kind of similar like world championships, but it's not,
it's not exactly the same thing because, you know, usually you bring every country that qualified
with the standard and all that. World, the ultimate championship is like the best of the best.
So I think you either go off a ranking or, you know,
what you've done previously.
And it's only two races, so semifinals and finals.
Oh, yeah, and the prize.
So you can have something in the tank.
You have something left in the tank.
You ain't got to go all these four rounds.
Yeah.
I mean, honestly, me personally, I was like, I wasn't sure if I wanted to do it for the next year.
But then after what happened this year, I was like, yeah,
I'm definitely motivated to go there, get that price purse because the price purse,
I think is like $150K or $100K at least, which is something that, you know,
For a win to win?
Yeah.
Damn.
I might start training for something.
Well, listen.
Hey, hey, as a matter of fact, we can really solidify and kind of already put that money already in your pocket if you allow me to be your training partner.
Because if you allow me to train on the side of you, I'm going to get you where you need to be.
Man, you've got to race me first before you're trying to be my training partner.
You want to race?
You got to race me first if you want to, if you want to be my training partner.
But listen, I don't want to take your confidence a way.
because that's what's going to happen if we race.
So I'd rather you just allow me to come in the camp
and be a training partner.
I can be like the master.
I'll allow you to come into the camp
and be my training partner.
Right.
First of all, you got to go through my coach.
Dennis Mitchell, he's a, I don't know.
Hey, hold on.
I beat Dennis running back in the day,
so he really got no say-so.
Y'all got a nice little group down there
at, you know, where y'all trained out of gamesville?
Orlando.
we're pretty much in Orlando.
Yeah.
Y'all got a good group.
Y'all got Caleb.
Shakir.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We got Coleman, me,
Aaron Brown,
we got B. Stu.
We got a bunch of people.
We got Kyrie as well,
Courtney Lindsay.
I mean,
every,
Brendan Hickland,
like every freaking,
every freaking practice day
just seems like it's a race.
It's intense.
I mean, you know,
for me in particular,
having those guys in the group
has really helped me
perform at a higher level.
Well, damn,
You're also basically the women's team is team Dennis Mitchell
because everybody that's on the day of relay running Dennis Mitchell
and y'all got three of the four guys that all them dead.
Hey, like I said, that's a hard work that we all put in.
Oh, yeah.
That's a hard work.
If y'all don't come away with that gold medal,
I'm going to feel some type of way.
Hey, I told you, we got it.
We got it.
And I'll be on here talking, hey, kidding.
I don't know if you'd be seeing it,
but I'd be on here talking crazy to the Jamaican.
That'd be something feeling some type of way.
I didn't be feeling some type of way
because they ain't got you saying no more
and it ain't no short thing
because we won the gold and silver
in the hundred meters.
I say we repaid y'all.
We got to go.
And we got the fastest woman in the world.
Can't nobody see MJ.
Yeah.
And we got the gold and the silver.
And guess what?
We was about to spank y'all in the relay.
But we ain't got to worry about that now.
We about to put something all you in the relay.
But we got something for you.
Yeah.
When you say you were in shape, what's an ideal weight for you, Kenny?
What do you weigh?
60, 65?
Oh, hell, no.
I weigh way more than that.
I'm 190 right now.
I'm 190.
What?
Okay.
Yeah, so you're not the first person that's ever underrested me to my weight.
I had a teammate of mine a couple years ago.
He's like, what are you, 160?
I said, no, I'm 1 to 85.
And it's like, no way.
I just think most of my, I have a lot of muscle.
And you probably seen photos of me, like, I don't have that much fat on me.
I think most of my muscle is in my.
my legs. I don't know. But yeah, I wait 190. 192. I think last year was the heaviest I've ran
at and that just gave me way more power. Well, see, I was thinking like, I was thinking like
Fred. I was thinking Fred Curley because he's so tall that he's about 190. But I was like
I was like somewhere between 60 and 70. For you, I didn't, I would have never guessed you with
that. Yeah. So when I came into the group originally in 2020, 2019, I was like 180 and I, you know,
I was a 4-2 guy, but every single year, like, I've been getting faster and stronger,
and yeah, I guess was just, you know, getting older, too, just gained a lot more muscle.
The muscle maturity.
And it just makes it, honestly, it makes everything feel so much easier, too.
I mean, Ricky mechanics and all that, from the block starts to everything, like,
it feels so much easier.
How tall are you?
Six-two.
Okay, okay, okay.
Damn.
Yeah.
And that's another thing.
I mean, when I, you know, looking at you on television, you know, television,
television normally as size
I would have never
guess you are as big as you are
as far as 6 to 190 pounds
that's big for 100 meter sprinter
Is it so?
Yes
Yeah
I guess I'm different
Yeah
I would I would think it like
I mean
Like Coleman
What's Coleman
Like height wise or weight wise
Well height wise
He can't be no more than 5, 6, 5, 7
Okay
on a good day I give him eight but I'm thinking five seven I don't know how much he weighs
I would say maybe around like 160 170 yeah that would make sense yeah that's why but you feel but you
like you mentioned when you got when you got the team Mitch uh you've 180 but you feel the extra
10 pounds of muscle gave you the power to thrust out of the blocks and it gave you the
and the top, they'll be able to hold it into 200.
Because you're a 200 special.
And a lot of times we see this, 200 specialists.
We saw, you saying, who those 200 meter specialists?
Drop down.
I think it was, I think also with me running the four,
I pretty much ran the four my whole life.
And then, you know, I ran 44-7 in college,
and then I went to Dennis group.
And then after that, he made me run the two
and the one pretty much permanently.
I think that was just,
the endurance was just instilled in my body, you know,
just growing up, running long distance,
I also used to run cross country as well,
used to run some...
What the hell?
Yeah, so I ran cross country in elementary
all the way to, what,
six, seventh grade.
So I think once they got a little bit
up in distance,
I was like, yeah, this ain't for me, you know?
I just went into football
and then just did track.
But I think just doing that
in my development stages,
that just really helped me bring that endurance
and just made everything easier.
So, yeah, I would say one,
90, 190, 192.
If I go any higher, then maybe I'll be a little
suit heavy, but right now everything feels easy.
You had a very unconventional
route to where you became.
You went to a community college.
You didn't go to Texas or Tennessee
or one of these powerhouse, LSU, Texas, A&M.
That's not the route that you took.
How were you able to stay focused
taking this route?
Because, you know, most of the guys that, you know,
you didn't turn pro right out of high school.
I mean, I wasn't, I honestly, I wasn't that fast in high school, but I think just my mom, you know, just, you know, I'm adopted as well. So, you know, being a young kid being adopted at four, you know, just had to work just to be where I was. I mean, she instilled good values in me every single day. I mean, she was a single mother adopting four kids. Like she, she was kind of the blueprint for me just to work hard every single day. And, you know, I was.
recruited by all the top schools at one point
but I was one of those kids where I was kind of
like oh I don't really care about school let me just have fun
and do sports didn't realize
that you know hey GPA matters when the schools want to come
after you I mean I think that was the question where
junior year they're like what's your GPA I'm like ah shit
so then you know I had my 40
it wasn't my 40 time
you said what was your 40 time
no yours wasn't your 40 time because you got a 4-2
You'd be a big, you'd be Gucci.
Yeah, so, you know, I had to go for a junior college in the middle of Iowa called Indian Hills
and, you know, the program brand, brand new program.
Why you could buy the War Weather City to go to run track?
How do you go to Iowa to run track?
I didn't think about stuff like that.
I mean, I'm from Wisconsin, so I've already ran in the cold.
Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, toochet.
Yeah, so, you know, I went to there for a year, did my,
thing, went pro, and yeah, I mean, just being from an adopted kid, going into
foster care, like my whole life, the route just to get here was unconventional. And, you know,
I get thanks to my mom on why I was able to, you know, be here where I am today and accomplish
my dreams.
That's dope.
So when it finally does happen, you beat Noah in the 200. I mean, what are you going to do
to celebrate? You're going to have a beer, you're going to have a piece of cake. I mean, what's
I mean, that's, I mean, have you ever beat Noah in the two?
I mean, I have, but it's the fact of, hey, I beat him while getting silver and somebody
else got me, you know?
Oh, yeah, you beat him at the liver.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
Yeah, so.
He got the bronze both times.
It's not really just about beating him.
It's just about getting that gold medal because, you know, my first year at the Olympics in
2021 here at Tokyo, you know, I beat, I beat him, but then Andre de Gras got me.
So it's the same.
with this you know it's the same with paris beat him but then tobogo got me you know and like i said
that's why it's just kind of frustrating because i'm not focusing on just him i'm focusing on just that
gold medal because i know what i can do but it always seems like there's something and uh like said
running running from lane eight not saying his excuse it's just it's just tough because you're on
the island you know you got one person ahead of you and you just got to make sure that be mentally strong
and just think about yourself you can't think about nobody else because you're out there running by
yourself. You running blind. Yeah, pretty much. But, I mean, you look at
Wade Van Neekert when he run, in Rio, he's in the farthest lane, and he knows he
has LaShawn there, and he had, what's the guy from, uh, uh, I remember watching that. I
don't remember his name, though. I just remember Lassan. He went from Alabama. Oh, my
goodness, I can't think of his name. But anyway, he knew they were back there. And he knew those guys
with sub-44 guys.
Both had already won a gold medal into 400.
Mm-hmm.
And he just took, he was the last qualifier.
And he just took off.
And he ran 40, 40, I had no idea.
I remember watching that when I was a kid.
I just like, oh, he's going to burn out.
And he just kept running.
I said, oh, my gosh.
That was the thing.
He didn't burn out.
Yeah, he just kept going.
And, I mean, honestly, that's the mentality I have when I get a lane draw like,
hey, I'm just like, hey, I just got to go.
all gas
and just execute my race
and see what happens.
Oh, breaks.
So after the championships,
how much time do you take off?
Are you done for the rest of the year
and just start,
because I don't think you do the indoor season.
So now, okay, so now when will you start back?
Okay, you're not going to let yourself
or say you say ideal shaping somewhere between 1.9 and 192.
Well, if you're not working out,
you might get up to 195, maybe even 200.
it.
No, I don't.
I don't even do that.
You don't?
I don't gain weight.
I don't gain weight like that.
I usually, so usually we have, what, a month and a half to two months,
depending on what coach wants.
Sometimes I'll maybe take a week or two more.
But what I do, you know, I do a lot of preventative stuff.
So, you know, I give myself a week or two just to kind of do whatever I want to do.
And then after that, I'm in the gym or with my physio, you know,
working on like strengthening small ligaments here and there because you know body's always
compensating with especially when we're redlining every single time for the whole year um
for vacation you know I like to go to Thailand like last year or two years ago I went to
Sapu Philippines I always just like to travel just see new things um you know I'm out here
in Tokyo right now so once you know the relay's done with I'm going to stay here for extra
three to four days go sight seeing because I I'm not one to go out and about when we're
you know, in the midst of the meat and everything.
And then after that, you know, I got to do some stuff back home.
And then I'm trying to figure out if I wanted to just go do a cruise.
But, yeah, I just love to travel and just see the world.
Karani James.
That's his name.
Karani James.
Oh, yeah.
Grenada.
Hey, he's still running, too.
Yes.
Went to the University of Alabama.
He won the NCAA championships into 400 meters, turned pro LaShawn Merritt won.
I think LaShawn won in 08.
he won in 12. Van Neekert won in 16 and Fast TV.
Yeah.
But it's so hard. I mean, why is it so hard for 400 meters to repeat?
Because if you go back and look at it, Michael Johnson is the only one to double up.
No other man has ever won back-to-back 400-meter titles.
Why is it so hard for men to repeat the 400 meters?
I mean, you're seeing the times right now
There's always somebody that's coming up coming into the fold
Somebody else is running 43 seconds
Running 43-5s or whatever you mean
You got these Botswana kids like
Yeah, Chippy
Chippy just ran 43-5
What did he come from?
Hey, there's just a lot of talented people in the world
And, you know, they just need the right coach
And right program
So these kids are finally finding the right circumstances
The right system and all that
And they're ready to go
And they, you know, I mean, that's why it's hard
I mean, even look at this 200.
I think this is the fastest 200 I've ever been in.
It is.
You know, when Bolt was running, well, it was him, maybe one other person
and everybody else is not running that fast.
Now we've got four or five guys that are running under some 20.
I think it's the most time, the most that we've had guys under, I think, what, 197?
You had four guys that run.
Yeah, in one race.
Yeah, sub-197.
We've never had that many run.
And we had four.
We had two guys on the 19, well, in the 19-6, and we had two guys on
the 197 so we had four guys that run sub 197 which which like you said unheard of i mean i mean
go ahead like i said just shoes are getting better surface are getting better training programs
are getting better you're finding the right talents like there's a lot of people in the world yeah
yeah and you and you're getting the right because a lot of things have to go right um i was talking
we have um j on melissa and we were saying she had to write people in the
race to go really fast.
If she gets a plus one tailwind, she's going sub 106 because she got Alfred in there,
she got Tia Clayton, she got Tina Clayton, she got Toulouse Smith in there.
So she has the people.
You need the competition, you need a track, and you need conditions.
She had everything except the conditions.
If you get a plus one, she's going to sub 106.
Yeah, it's over with.
Yeah.
Melissa, Melissa, she's been putting in so much work.
I mean, from seeing her last year into going to this year, yeah, she's got stronger.
She got way stronger, mechanics, everything has gotten so much better.
It's just awesome to see what she's done this year.
And I definitely feel like, you know, she can repeat this.
You know, it is, it is hard to do it, but she's one of those athletes that can repeat
and be a double champion again.
Man, I want, man, I, I mean, I wish it was 2027.
I wish we had the world and the next year was the 27 because it's, I mean, to stay on top,
it's hard because, like you said, you got.
You got 200 countries, and you got some 17, 18, 19, 20-year-old that we ain't even heard of yet.
And all of a sudden, they pop up out of this.
That's why it's important.
You got to find the right people.
I mean, for me, I invest so much in my body.
I mean, you got people, you know, even with Tobogo, you know, he was Olympic champ last year.
This year, he didn't come out with anything.
And, you know, there's just a lot of things that you need to do in order to stay on top.
I mean, I got a physio, a massage therapist, chiropractor.
You know, I invest in a lot of my body.
I mean, I got a cold plunge sauna at my house, red light therapy.
Like, it's a lot of hard work.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm looking at the women and the hurdles.
Hell, where do kombuchi come from?
How did she live like that?
She's always been there.
But I mean, look at what we got.
We got Russell.
We got Stark.
We got all them.
I'm like, damn.
Yeah, I mean, the women's hurdles has always been tough.
I mean, you go watch the Diamond League.
There's always three or four of them in that race.
So they never get a break.
And it's hard.
I don't know if we've ever had a repeat champion in the women's hurdle.
Because you get one and then the next year, boom, here comes somebody else.
And then here comes somebody else.
I mean, you had Joanna Hayes and you had Don Harper and then you come Brianna Rawlins.
And then you get a Camacho.
I'm like, hey, that's what makes track.
That's what makes track inciting because you don't know what's going to happen.
Except when it came to the 100 meters back from 2008, 12, and 16, we knew.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It wasn't.
Hey, he showed up.
Who got second?
Who wouldn't get to silver?
You already, you know.
Yeah, he's just looking like, all right, who's going with?
Did you ever get a chance to race against boat?
Nah, no, I'm too young.
Way too young.
So when you retired, 2017, I didn't become a pro until 2019, 2020.
Oh, yeah, but you're stupid.
Yeah, because I'm only, I'm only 26, so.
Ooh, you got some good year left.
You, you about a year and a half away from Prime.
So you should be real good by the time 28 roll around.
It's in L.A.
Hey, that's perfect.
It's L.A.
Look, and they ain't coming back.
Last time they was in L.A. was 1984.
for. So
home soil. We need some home cooking
kitty. We need home cooking. That's the
perfect time. Well, I'm expecting you.
All I know is I'm going to be watching 2026
Ultimate Championships. Are they going to be
normal races like they normally would be
you know, what is the Drake and
and the sack? So they're going to be... I would say
yeah. You know, Drake
Relays, I actually like going to that.
but usually when they have that,
I'm always overseas running somewhere.
But yeah, they'll have that, Mount Sac, you know,
still Diamond League, like all those things are going to be there.
I still think, I still think we have our nationals as well,
so that would be going on.
So we have a full season of a lot of meets and everything else.
So, like I said, time-wise,
I'm just focused on just,
I'm focused on just executing my race next year.
And time-goal-wise, I got-
What you're looking at for at 100 meters?
What's your goal?
So, what's your goal for the 100?
What's your goal for the 200?
So how I felt this year and what I was doing at practice, you know, I was talking about my coach.
I definitely could have ran 9-7 mid or 9-7 low.
So I feel like next year, if, you know, coach wants to do it with me,
I feel like I want to go off the American record for the 100 meters.
968?
It's 69.
Well, you got to run 968.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
Hold on.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Have you been under, have you been under 9-8?
Yeah, I went 9-79 at our trial at our trials, yeah.
Do you understand how much, Kenny?
I understand it, but like I said.
Hey, this is Matt Jones.
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That was my other big takeaway from that game.
What was that?
Looks like something that should not be sold.
Oh, my.
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They sold that?
Yes.
Might want to go back to the...
At the Colts Stadium.
Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that.
Yeah.
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with the shape that I'm in right now
and the practices that I've had
like leading up to the 100
and that's why it stung so much more for me
when I didn't cross the finish line
even getting a medal because of my
mishads.
Right.
I could have done something dangerous
and now I've got to wait two years
but I'm just like hey, screw it.
You know, if coach wants to do this next year
that's one of the goals that I want to hit
because I definitely feel like I'm capable of doing it.
I finally have a start.
That took about what, four years?
I mean, my teammates were kicking my ass
for four years straight in the blocks.
It was so bad.
to where we were just like, hey, man, screw the blocks.
Let me just do the workout right now and just roll y'all up.
Like, that's what I wanted.
Because they were embarrassing me, but, you know, I feel great.
And every rate, even running the 985 in the semifinals,
like that's the easiest 95 I ever ran.
You know, no tensing up or anything.
So I knew that the finals, I could have done something crazy.
And then obviously you guys saw what happened, had a late reaction.
And then, yeah, I'm like, well, damn, can you?
Yeah.
That was a 200-meter reaction.
Yeah.
Like I said, I let it slip away,
and that's why it stung so much more
because I knew that I was in really good shape.
So now I got to wait.
You ran 979.
Where do you feel you can make up that kind of time?
Because that's a lot of time.
From 979 to 968, that ain't no step.
That's more than a step.
So where are you going to make up the time at the start,
the transition,
Decelebration?
It's in the start.
So usually when I, in the 100, especially when I get up,
just stay relaxed and just hold on to what I build up.
So for me, it's in the first, you know, 20, 30, 40 meters.
If I can set up perfectly, then I can get it.
Man, you train with Christian.
Can't you get that start?
Can't you let that rub off on you?
It has, actually.
I mean, that's why my, that's why the start has actually been way better.
I mean, the addition to having him, also with the other teammates of mine,
it just really helped like something just clicked this year and then hey I finally got to start and that just built confidence and you know going into Grand Slam as well just really helped uh I just really needed reps in the hundred because that was the biggest thing that I was lacking in previous years like I was like hey can I get in a hundred and it's like nah you're a 200 guy let's run it too so I'm like ah damn this is like my 10th 200 of the year let me get in 100 so this year really helped me out just to kind of understand the the mechanics you know I think also just being older and just maturing as an athlete I
actually understanding what my coach was trying to teach me the previous years.
Everything just started just makes sense, became way easier.
And like I said, I'm confident that, you know, I can get around that area next year.
But that's what coach wants to do, if that's what coach wants to do.
Because I know everything's about a plan.
You know, you could go crazy next year, but then you got, you know, another world world championships in the Olympics.
So, you know, if it's not part of his blueprint, then we'll see.
Let me as how different is the training from 100?
I would assume that 100, you do in 150s and twos.
So for a two, are you doing 250s, 3s?
How different is the training?
It depends on the coach.
For us in particular, we, if we're training for a 200, you know, we do like 250s, 300s, 150s, 150s, a lot of speed work.
And then he's where, he wants to hone, make us hone on the technical side of the race.
Because, like, okay, you can build all this speed, but it don't mean anything if you're not technically, you know, sound.
So when it comes to the 100, you know, 60, 80s, 6080s, 6080s, just a lot of 6080s and then 120s.
But I mean, it's working.
Like every coach is different.
You know, another coach can say something completely different.
But that's what we do.
A lot of sled training as well.
We do a lot of 1080 stuff.
Like, we do a bunch of stuff.
Wow.
And weight training.
plios, a lot of
cleans, a lot of partial squats,
a lot of box jumps, I mean, a lot of explosive stuff
because you can't be explosive if you don't train explosive.
Yeah, it's like stuff like that.
I mean, you know, I can't give too much detail.
You get mad at me.
I got you. I got you.
Man, Kenny, thanks for your time, man.
Appreciate it.
Good luck tomorrow.
Bro, it's been a while since we had.
we've been atop the podium on a global stage
and the relay man.
Caney, don't let us down, Kenny.
Don't let us down.
Hey, I said, we got you.
We got a good squad.
We've been practicing hard.
We'll get it done.
It would be out here.
Y'all hear that Jamaicans?
Do y'all hear that?
Don't be bad.
Don't be bad because we're about to get both of them, sweepstakes.
Men and women.
America flag.
I got to find me.
American flag tomorrow because I'm going to be flying it
high.
I'm a sufferable kid. I ain't going to lie.
I'm a I'm a I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a worst
winner.
They hate you.
They do.
They do.
When y'all win this race tomorrow, I will give them something to hate.
All right.
I'm cowed on it.
Kenny Benarick, Silver medalist, and back-to-back Olympics and in the world championship.
Kenny, congratulations.
Good luck tomorrow.
come back and talk to us again soon, man.
All right. Thank you. Thanks for having me on.
Appreciate you, babe.
All right, bye.
Oh, Joe.
Do we got graphics for this?
We got a new game.
Our newest segment is back.
It's called Play or Fade.
It's presented by prize picks, and this is how it works.
The nightcap staff has made a slip of their picks,
and we either play their slip or make some changes,
choosing more or less.
See, I felt pretty good.
I got to her right.
Two of it was right.
So let me see what we got here.
Jordan Love, more one,
1.5 touchdown passes.
Well, Lamar Jackson threw for like 12,
so he'll have at least two more, 0.5, more, more, more.
You like that?
You like that, Ocho?
Because you cost me last time
because you told me James Cook
was going to have, oh yeah,
he's going to have like 30 yards receiving
and didn't.
Well, I mean, they didn't have to.
But most of the time they-
Bro, I tried to win money.
You told my day ain't.
have to. I mean, no, we don't know what the game plan in, but most of the time,
he catches the ball out of the back field as well. So I thought that,
that would have been a smart play. I'm betting money.
I'm trying to win money. I'm trying to get, I've tried to win $59,000 that you owe me.
So I'm trying to do stuff to get that. Okay, okay. I see. I see. I see.
Oh, well, how about this here? Bejohn Robinson, more than 110.5 rush yards
and receiving yards combined against Carolina. Absolutely. Come on that.
Okay. I'll say go more.
Tyler Warren, 47 and a half receiving yards against Tennessee.
That's the tight end from the Colts.
Hey, listen, the way Danny Dimes is dishing, man.
The way Danny Dimes is dishing, what you think?
Oh, oh, I'm going to, I...
Oh, Lord, that mercy.
Damn.
You ain't got no confidence in 17 over there with the horseshoe?
on the helmet.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
I will go.
Okay.
Yeah.
Jake Elliott, more than 1.5 field goal against the rate.
They're playing the Raiders?
No, that's the Rams.
Rams.
Jake Elliott, that's the Eagles, right?
One point, oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Absolutely.
He's going to two, two, two, two, two, two.
I'm taking the staff slip.
But I tell you what, y'all better be right on.
The only one I'm really concerned about is Tyler Warren,
the 47 and a half receiving yards.
But I, uh, I got to go against you, Ocho.
My gut tells me to go against you.
See?
One thing, one thing you never do.
Never bet against the house.
Oh, you're the house now?
Yeah, I'm the house.
Never bet against the house.
Well, when the house is going to pay some money?
My money.
When the house goes down to pay my buddy.
Download the app today.
Use Coach Shannon to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5
lineups.
So go on out there and play, you know, we're going to win some money tomorrow.
Ocho, Atlanta Falcons Cut Kicker, Young Way, Co.
After seven years with a team, signed new starter Parker Romo to a two-year deal.
And Arnold Coe, the fans have asked us to bring the viral clip with Coach Prime
and the pronunciation of his name back.
Y'all did be dirty, Ocho.
Hey, that was classic, bro.
But y'all had me rolling, but.
Here it is.
Here's the clip.
I don't know that nigga hear it.
Young Hoku kicks the five to win over the same.
What?
What was it that?
Young way?
Young way,
Young way,
what you said, though.
You're talking about saying.
I say, I say Young Hoku.
No, you can't.
That's not their name.
That was his name.
Who you was talking about?
The kicker for the father.
What's the name?
Young.
Young way.
You see what I'm saying?
Don't try to change that, though.
You got to stop that, man.
Oh.
But look how it was, hold on.
How does it spell?
Hey, Joe.
How do you spell young?
How they spell it young?
No, they, they, they, they, they don't spell it young like we spell it.
They, I think they spell it why you.
So how you know how to spell that and you know how to spell it over?
No, I know, she, she, oh, I spelled it.
Oh, it's a shone hoot.
I get, but you said, um, you said, um, you said, um,
You said young hole.
That's what he said, didn't he?
He said, young hole.
Hey, Doug.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
You have a flashback.
Hold on.
You have a flashback, though.
Oh, Cho.
Okay, what does this spell?
Y-O-U-N-G-H-O-E-D-O-O-O-W-O-W-O.
Who wrote that for you?
Ain't nobody, that ain't nobody named.
That ain't nobody's name, though.
That is nobody's name.
That is.
That is.
That is nobody's real name.
And you're going to say it.
That ain't nobody name.
Oh, Joe.
That is his name.
Nobody's name spelled like that.
You know that ain't nobody named spelled like that.
Actually, that is his name.
That's the well it's, that is pronounced young way.
Why you say young weight?
But it's spelled because, no, she put it on there as young weight.
But if you go look at it, it's Y-O-N-G-H-O-E.
G-H-O-E don't make that sound.
Go-go.
Go.
That makes it go.
There you go.
See, man.
You're not saying that.
You're always saying you got flashbacks.
You got to stop that, though, man.
The Falcons defensive special teams make big plays and thrilling with.
That's what he said, yeah?
You know, boy.
I was going on.
So she was y'all?
Oh, I know what you're talking about two weeks ago.
I ain't know what you're talking about.
I ain't know what you're talking about, don't.
Man, I ain't know.
No, you did.
No, you did.
Hey, boy, that was classic, but.
Say, D.V. Palsing, Edible.
Edible.
Hey, that was classic.
Man, that's time by our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and A.
Hey, boy, that was classic, boy.
That was, that's fun.
We're going to be able to listen to 10 years from night and it's still last the same way.
Y'all got jokes, huh?
Yeah, that was fun.
Bad facts, can we show Ocho skateboard video, please?
But that was from years ago.
You saw that?
You and that skateboard flew out from under your ass?
I saw that.
It was so long ago, but I could actually skate.
Now, I compete.
I compete.
I'd be at the skate park and all now.
Astroo said,
Uncan Ocho, when y'all weren't partying or outside in college,
What do you guys do?
Love the show.
Much love.
Well, I ain't party.
I went to one party in four years of college.
I was in my room reading GQ,
thinking about what I was going to be doing
in four years, five years,
what my NFL career is going to look like.
That's what I was doing.
Doing homework.
Yeah.
Honestly, for those that know me,
those in the chat,
if you follow me long enough,
as long as I've been on social media,
you know I don't party,
you know I don't club,
you know I don't drink.
Gaming.
High school gaming.
college I was gaming yeah I just yeah probably at clubbing I don't drink so therefore I don't
want to be around people that do drink because people that drink they like to have conversations
on maybe talk about stuff they asked all three conversations I'm like and I don't want to
I ain't interested in none of them in none of it I just now and then the music be too loud and then
people step on your shoes and crowd I don't I don't like that yeah I mean obviously you couldn't
party during the season because you was in your room to have bed check at on Friday and then
Saturday game.
And so once the season was over, I mean,
I got a girlfriend my junior year and senior year.
So we went to, once the season was over,
we'd go to the movies.
You know, I had a little bread, Ocho, you know.
I go out camping a little room.
Yeah, you know, I was, you know, bro makes sure I was straight,
but I was not a party of my man.
Timber Norwood Jr. said, oh, I can't believe Ocho
got an iPhone 17.
Hold on!
Ocho got an iPhone 17, but won't pay you a $59,000.
The next time you're in.
for a bottle siding. I'm coming
to see. Ocho. Who got
an iPhone 17? You did?
No, I didn't. Let me see it, Ocho. Hold your phone up.
My phone? I don't got no.
This man, this man really do.
Hey, um, let me tell you something. I was eligible
for upgrade. I still had the iPhone
12. I had the iPhone 12, so
I had the iPhone 12. Chat, I need y'all to tell
chat. What should I
do to Ocho.
Chad, come on, Chad.
Y'all keep on saying, man,
oh, man, let Ocho live.
Ocho trying to get endorsement deal.
What did I got to do with my $59?00?
Listen, you're not, you're not listening to me.
I didn't have the iPhone 12 for the longest.
So I went to go pay my cell phone bill.
And they told me about, um, about me being able to,
oh, you got to upgrade.
You ain't, you haven't got a new phone a long time.
Like, well, you mean I ain't got to pay nothing?
So they say, yeah, if you pay your phone bill, you can, you can switch out the phone.
So I ain't really pay nothing.
Yeah, you pay something.
You got to pay, ask about a dollar.
You can get an upgrade, but you got to pay for it.
No, I don't, I had the iPhone 12.
I went from the 12 to the 17 and I have to pay nothing.
You got to pay something.
Yeah, I had to pay my phone bill.
My phone bill was like $120.
No, and you're going to have to pay $100 because they put the new upgrade in your phone bill.
No, no, not, that's not.
Yeah, it's a $23 a month.
That's okay, Ocho.
I mean, chat, chat.
Chat, as you start a poll,
what should Uncle do to Ocho
after Ocho refuses to give him his money?
I'm not refusing.
I'm just, I'm waiting for my money to get right.
Hello.
You don't got LV. Tracksuit.
You don't got a new iPhone.
You don't got all this new stuff.
You got a new house.
You got all this stuff.
Me?
I got you.
I got you.
I got you.
Cereo P.
said, can we get a shout out
to Ocho's college quarterback,
Jay Smith,
and my daughter's Michigan State Spartans
as we battle USC tonight
at 11.
Go green.
Wait, that game ain't starts yet?
Yeah, it should have started.
Yeah, Jonathan Smith, that's my high school quarterback.
He coached?
Yeah, he the head coach of Michigan State.
Is it?
Yeah, yeah.
He left Oregon State.
Now he's at Michigan State.
Well, I didn't know that.
Congratulations.
Ocho, Tornanis Green.
Who goes 0 in three?
Who go O in three tomorrow?
Who goes one and two?
Oh, and three.
I guess you're looking at the cheese.
Wait, who's got?
They play the Giants.
Who else?
Hasn't won a game yet.
Oh, it can get ugly for the Chiefs, boy.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah.
You're taking the Chief to go one and two or O and three?
Honestly, I mean, my home's going to figure it out.
I don't see them going to O and three.
And if they go to O'N3, it's the time to hit the panic button.
I don't know.
Do you hit the panic button with a quarterback like Mahomes
and what he's done in the past?
I don't know.
I don't know.
That's a good one.
That's going to be, that might be the best game of the day, honestly.
That might be the best game of the day.
Who else had won a game that we were suspected to win a game?
God damn Colts.
The Colts play tomorrow?
Yeah, they play Tennessee.
That's who I want to see.
I mean, Colts, Tennessee is really not an exciting game
that the game that people want to see.
I want to see a goddamn Daniel Jones, it's for real.
Or is it a situation like Baker Mayfield or a situation like Sam Donald.
You know, Sam Donald goes to Minnesota.
all of a sudden, all world.
Baker Mayfield goes to Tampa Bay.
All of a sudden, all world.
It's just the right situation.
I want to see if the Indianapolis coach
just happened to be the right situation for Daniel Jones.
It might be.
But guess who else had that exact situation?
Who?
Anthony Richardson.
They had that exact situation.
Yeah, you're right.
And guess who you got that exact situation
that J.J. McCarthy got,
that Sam Donald, J.J. McCarthy.
Mm-hmm.
Jason said, what's up, Ocanocho?
My birthday's tomorrow.
Can I get a shot?
I also go Caves.
Yes, Jason, happy birthday.
Happy birthday, twin.
Enjoy.
Spitted with family, friends, and loved ones.
Tell them you love them.
Hopefully they tell you they love you, and you got something real nice.
Dr. Frank El Bellamy said, hey, fam, unc.
That Shay by LaPorte is so smooth.
From now, you should be known as the Cognac King.
You're welcome.
Thank you, Doc.
I appreciate the support.
You've been supporting Nightcap Club, Shee,
and LaPorte.
all things 84 we appreciate that doc because you've been one of the very first ones to follow
nightcap you've been a mod for a long time and every time ocho and i show up uh Atlanta you were
here in Atlanta you was here in and and at new Orleans you came to uh the very first one in
Las Vegas so doc ocho and I the nightcap family we can't thank you enough we appreciate the
support ohcho yo here's a skateboard video
This is Ocho on the skateboard.
Yeah, this is old. I forgot what year this was, too, huh?
You see I got, you see that, you see I got my cigar on my mouth, too.
See, I can skate.
No, you can't.
No, I mean, no, I mean, I can skate for real.
I mean, I can skate for real.
I was just trying to, I was trying to do some damn trick.
And the cigar on mouth is the reason why I failed.
What that trick?
Gladdy got to rob up.
Ocho.
Yes.
Why the birthday hit?
I was good, though.
I was good, I was good, though.
I was good, though. I was good.
But see, the funny thing, that's about,
that might be, that might be six, seven years old.
Now, now, you know, I ride in the skate bar
down here in downtown, downtown Miami.
Oh, Joe, six or seven years later, it's still hurt.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm good.
I'm a real skater, though.
I'm a real skater, though.
I don't got to do everything.
Do everything.
You're a real,
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The Miami Hurricanes.
The Florida Gators 26 to 7.
Billy Meyer,
excuse me, Billy Napier
is really, really
on thin ice. He's going to have to get this thing
turned around if he wants to stay
head coach of the University of Florida.
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