Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Unc loves raccoon, Christmas movie debate, greatest nicknames in sports

Episode Date: January 3, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the best pop culture moments of the week. Top stories include Unc’s preferred way to prepare raccoon, Unc and Ocho debate their t...op Christmas movies in the holiday edition of Rough Draft, the guys breakdown the greatest nicknames in sports and much more!03:18 - Unc would eat raccoon and then some15:37 - Unc and Ocho aren’t concerned about the robot rumors18:24 - Rough Draft: Christmas Movies23:20 - Ocho and Unc reflect on their family27:19 - Unc unpacks what he did on Christmas Day31:40 - Greatest nicknames in sports(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:05 everybody that I know that I've ever seen prepare raccoon. Normally they cut him up, they get a nice medium-sized raccoon. You don't want him too big. You're going to put him in vinegar anyway and soak him overnight. But anyway, so you're going to chop him up. You're going to get you a pan with aluminum foil. Y'all call it tin foil.
Starting point is 00:04:22 We call it aluminum foil. And you cut him up, Ocho. You get your bell peppers. You get your onion. You get you some celery. You put him down in there. Hey, okay, you put that tin foil over the top of him. And you let him stand in that oven for an hour or so. Probably about an hour, about 90 minutes.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Let him bake. Now, you want to put some barbecue sauce on him? Put that barbecue sauce on him. Slap his ass back in that oven for about another 15 minutes. Now you got some. I've never seen it like that with rice. I've never seen it. I'm not saying you can't prepare it like that.
Starting point is 00:04:53 But growing up, and I've seen a lot of people prepare it, I've never seen it prepared like that. Now, maybe that's a South Carolina thing. Maybe that's specific to that region. But I've never seen it like that. Now, with squirrel, I've seen it squirrel fried, smothered fried. I've never seen squirrel baked. I've only seen it
Starting point is 00:05:13 fried and smothered fried. Raccoon, I've only seen it baked. I've never seen it like chicken and rice. It's almost like, because it looked like he had it with rice. Now, but I've never seen it like that. I'm not saying you can't eat it like that, but my grandmother, all the times I saw my grandmother prepare it,
Starting point is 00:05:29 my great-grandmother prepare it, my aunts prepare it, my sister prepare it, I've never seen it prepared like that. Now, I'm not saying I wouldn't eat it. I'll try it just to see what it tastes like. But I know the way that I've eaten it growing up, I like that way better. I can already tell. But that doesn't mean it almost looks like
Starting point is 00:05:48 boudin. Boudin? Boudin. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. You gotta pronounce that out. B-O-U-D-I-N. Boudin.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Okay. Nah, hell nah nah so but hey like I said it's been a while but I tried I mean I've been trying to you know look guys you have to understand when you grow up and I think his situation is kind of similar to mine
Starting point is 00:06:22 he probably didn't have a whole lot guys you not getting no ribs. You're not getting I was just talking to my sister the other night. We got fried chicken on Sunday. That's the only time I've ever eaten fried chicken. I've never had fried chicken on a Monday or Tuesday. Now,
Starting point is 00:06:37 if it was left over, my grandmother was going to smother fry it. You're going to get that flour and water and make and smother fry it. But on Tuesday get that flour with water and smother fry. But on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, I never had fried chicken on those days unless you got it from
Starting point is 00:06:52 the hen house. That was the place after I had graduated and went off to college, they had what they call a crispy chick. But as far as eating at home, we didn't get that. You got chitlins. You got raccoons. Somebody come by, hey, boys, y'all want a raccoon? All they wanted was the hide, the fur. So they'd
Starting point is 00:07:10 already have the raccoon cased out. That's what they call it when they take the hide off Ocho, have him bust out but they make you leave a foot on him so you can tell that's not a puppy, that's a raccoon. So he would already be dressed by the time you get him.
Starting point is 00:07:26 That's what they call it when they gutting him, take the head off, take the fur off. They call it a bust down? Yeah, we'll take it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When they've already got the hide off him,
Starting point is 00:07:40 they take the hide off him because that's really the only valuable part that the trappers want because they trap them. You trap them or you get dogs to go hunt them and tree them. So you had a black and tan, you had red bones, you had blue ticks, you had bloodhounds, you had
Starting point is 00:07:56 a tree and walker, you had dogs that go hunt. And so you turn the dogs loose and that's why you hear them they got some trees now you go hey you get your rifle because you couldn't shoot him with a shotgun because you messed the hide up so what you want is a 22 rifle small caliber hit him in his head boom you don't punch you the fur the hide so that's now a squirrel ain't no value in the squirrel hide so a raccoon
Starting point is 00:08:28 a squirrel you use shotgun or 410 12 gauge 10 whatever the case may be you get that you know you hurt quail you know you use bird shot something that spray because once you hit a flock of them
Starting point is 00:08:43 they gonna scare the hell out of you but they gone so you gotta you gotta turn and fire so you won't shots that spread now if you hunting deer you use a shotgun but you're gonna use you know you might use a slug or you might use buckshot how you gonna use a shotgun on a deer you gotta you're not close you gotta get for that to hit oh that's right a lot of times people hunt from a stand. So you up at a tree stand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or you use a 30-30, 30-06. You know, you use rifle.
Starting point is 00:09:13 You know how to do the process of seeing how the process it takes. My brother can. No, I was young. My brother watched my uncles do it and so he would go hunting and and he do it he kill a cool he coming case him out himself yeah he could do it oh yeah my brother my brother my brother killed a deer an eight point buck yeah with a sick with a single shot rifle he came home he came home running he was huffing and puffing my uncle
Starting point is 00:09:44 didn't believe him he said uh he said james i killed a deer he said home running he was huffing and puffing my uncle didn't believe him he said uh he said james i killed a deer he said man you he said what you killing with he had he had a single shot rifle my uncle said bro you ain't killed no deer he said come on let me show you went back there man we call hell dragging that deer out of there they'll probably weigh you know that's a big boy 150 pounds that's a big boy yeah but but that's what
Starting point is 00:10:09 Ocho you ate those things when you got hog somebody might come home and they're like Mary we got so they bring you the feet they bring you the tail
Starting point is 00:10:18 they bring you the head now oh you thought you was gonna get the ribs you thought you was gonna get the shoulder you got the hog maw you got the chitlins now, oh, you thought you was going to get the ribs? You thought you was going to get the shoulder? You got the hog maw, you got the chitlins, you got the heart, you got
Starting point is 00:10:31 the liver, you got the feet, you got the tail, you got the head. You cut the ears off, and you can make pig ear sandwiches. That's what you got. With the cow, you got the tail. You got the tongue. You wasn't getting no good cuts of meat so what y'all thought we was gonna eat now think about oxtail and oxtails are delicacy no no people
Starting point is 00:10:56 wouldn't eat oxtails like that back in the day not not our counterparts they eat it now. You can't be, you can't, you try to go into, you try to go to the soul food restaurant, they ordering up all the oxtails. Man, stop playing. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:13 I know how expensive they are. Stop playing. Yeah. But that's what you ate, but that's what you ate growing up. So you ate alligator, I don't know, alligator turtle.
Starting point is 00:11:26 They look like they got a tail like a little alligator. And they got the ridge on the back. So we catch them as big as a number two wash tub. We call them wash tubs. Some people call them tin tubs. It all depends on where you grew up at. But if you're in the South, you know exactly what I'm talking about. A number two wash tub or tin tub. As big as that is the bottom. It all depends on where you grew up at, but if you're in the South, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:11:46 A number two watchtower or a tenter. As big as that is the bottom. You're talking about something like 85, even 100 pounds. Oh, you're coming home. My granny was going to cook you. For sure. Even the soft-shell turtles. Like I said, if you're from the South, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:12:04 But, oh, yeah, I don't know what y'all thought we was going to eat. You ate possum. You ate raccoon. I had a great uncle. He ate armadillo. I know I'm drawing a line, but see, that's why I draw the line now, Ocho. I mean, I got some pride. Sometimes you just got to say no. Hey, like Cam said, sometimes you got to
Starting point is 00:12:19 tell him no. What's wrong? Now, I'll tell you this, Ocho. Now, you're talking about some pretty white meat. A possum got some of the prettiest white meat you'll see when you get him dressed. But, hey, them old folks eat 10 months. You think somebody's snapping his... Hey, you think somebody's snapping his finger. That's milk popping.
Starting point is 00:12:40 You can have that. You know what? You didn't eat it. what you gonna do if those my circumstances were like that like you then I wouldn't have no choice
Starting point is 00:12:51 but he did and I would be used to it but the fact that I didn't grow up like that the chances of me eating now you have to say I'm eating it
Starting point is 00:12:58 nah that ain't that ain't that ain't happening hey let me tell you what my grandma let me tell you hey my grandma ain't really telling what we eating my grandma just said plate on the table you ain't happening. Hey, let me tell you what my grandma, let me tell you. Hey, my grandma ain't really telling what we eat.
Starting point is 00:13:07 My grandma just said plate on the table. You ain't got to eat it. You ain't got to eat it. Hey, Grant, I don't want this. Okay, do without. Yeah. Man, part of it is do without. There are people across the river, when they say across the river,
Starting point is 00:13:21 that means overseas. They ain't got nothing to eat. Hey, chicken, you got the neck. You ate everything on the chicken, though, Joseph, the first and last part to get over the fence, the beak and the butt. You ain't eat the beak, but some people eat that little fatty part.
Starting point is 00:13:36 If you're from the South, again, you know what I'm talking about. That little fatty part right there, people eat that right there. But you got the back, you ate the back. There ain't nothing. Chicken necks, you ate the gills, you got the back. You ate the back. There ain't nothing. Chicken necks. You ate the gills. You ate the livers. I mean, everybody want the breast
Starting point is 00:13:50 and the wing. Ooh. No, no, no, no, no, no. You better get them necks and them backs and get on up out of here. What? But I would. To make a long story short, Ocho, I definitely would try that raccoon. I would try it that way because. I would try it that way
Starting point is 00:14:05 because I've never had it that way. It'd be interesting to taste, but I know my sister had that thing to age. Put that thing in that pan with them onions and celery and bell pepper. Man, cover that thing up. That thing
Starting point is 00:14:21 fall over. Now you got me hyped. You talk about that guy. You just mentioned o over it. Now you got me hyped, man. You talking about, you talking about, you talking about that guy that, you just mentioned Oxtail. I'm thinking about Oxtail now. I'm thinking about two of my, two of my favorite. I got some, I got some in the freezer right now.
Starting point is 00:14:36 It's two. Yeah. I got me a best up in the, I'm talking about the old, sometimes, sometimes you got to go to the butcher because at the butcher, they'll cut it like you want about the old... Look, sometimes you got to go to the butcher because at the butcher, they'll cut it like you want it. They be get... Sometimes you go to the store,
Starting point is 00:14:48 they get a little one that's like, no, no, no, I want to be like this. I want to be like this. See, you don't come to mind the office, right? Yeah, man. Remember Kayvon Webster? Kayvon Webster played for the Bronx. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Yeah. Kayvon got a spot out here, right? Yeah. Real nice spot. Real nice spot called Smith and Webster. Now, when I go to Smith and Webster, I get the goddamn oxtail. Okay. You look like a goddamn
Starting point is 00:15:11 fish. Yeah. There's another spot. My homeboy out there in the city. Man, listen. He sell the goddamn oxtail. What do you got? You hear me? Hey, call iCrave. You can get... Hey, listen. You got... Man, listen. You can get... I love me some grits. You get the oxtail and iCrave. You can get... Hey, listen.
Starting point is 00:15:26 You got... Man, listen. You can get... I love me some grits. You get the shrimp, you get the waffle, you get the pancake, you get the chicken wings.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Listen. I love some grits, man. If I go somewhere, if I go somewhere, I'm trying to find they got some grits. Man, I love me some grits, Ocho. Now, if I go to a soul food restaurant,
Starting point is 00:15:49 I'm looking up there. If they got oxtail, I'm probably going to get the oxtail. But if they got some grits i man i love me some grits on show now if i go to a soul food restaurant i'm looking up there they got oxtail i'm probably gonna get the oxtail but if they got neck bones i'm probably gonna try the neck bone if they got pork chop fried or some other fry i will get those turkey wings okay how you got the turkey i will get that you got some dressing probably go get that too i like to go right and i might not have but a bite or two bites but I want to try it all that's how I am that's in the morning that's where I'm going you done amped me up I'm going in the morning I'm going to give you some oxalic grits in the morning
Starting point is 00:16:16 yeah I love some grits grits and eggs bacon scientists predict Yeah. I love some grits. Grits and eggs, bacon. Ocho, check this out. Scientists predict women will be having more sex with robots than men by 2050.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I sure won't either. I won't know nothing about it. I'm going to be in the upper room. I won't know nothing about it. I won't know a thing about it. There ain't no sense in me lying to you. And besides, by the time I get that age, it won't work either way, so it won't know a thing about it. Ain't no sense in me lying to you. And besides, by the time I get that age, it won't work anyway,
Starting point is 00:16:45 so it won't matter. But that's the only way I'm going to quit. I ain't going to quit until it quits. How old will I be in 2050? It all depends. What, you what?
Starting point is 00:16:59 You 44 now? Are you 46 now? So you add 25 years to that, Ocho. You're going to be 71. Well, I'm going to still be up, right? Yeah. Knocking her down. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:17:18 You know, O'Shea, O'Shea B, hey, boy, we had a good run. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? We had to hang O'Shea, had'Shea B, hey, boy, we had a good run. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? We had to hang O'Shea, had to hang it up. Hey, all I'm going to do is, because at that point in time, what I'll be, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:35 hey, I'll be 25, I'll be 81. So at that point in time, Ocho, ain't no more memories. Oh, yeah, it is. Ain't nothing going on. I don't even know a rope. I don't even know a rope
Starting point is 00:17:50 that could help me by then. I don't know a rope that could help your boy by then. You have to understand that advancement in technologies to help men in that specific area will probably be I'm in the IV
Starting point is 00:18:07 I need that thing to go right into my vein we gonna be alright alright come on I'll be in that wheelchair come here come on come on now come here now oh hey hey Come on out. Don't go there. Come on out. Oh.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Hey. My daughter going to have to come get me. They're going to say, uh-uh, uh-uh. Call my daughter and say, you're going to have to come get your father. Hey. My kid better not put me in no home, boy. They better not put me in no home. boy. They better not put me in no home. They put me in a home when I get home.
Starting point is 00:18:48 But whoever in that home, not hospice. Hospice, no? No, no. It's the assisted living facility. I'm running through everything in that bitch, boy. Hey, that's what I'm telling you. They're going to have to come get you. Hey, you have what I'm telling you. Hey, you have to come get your daddy.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yeah. Now it's time for Rough Draft Christmas Movies. Whoa, Christmas Movies? Yeah. Oh, Joe, you go first. Listen, you finna lose this and I'm starting off with the greatest movie
Starting point is 00:19:24 of all time, right? when it comes to Christmas. Yeah. I'm starting off with Home Alone, so it's over. Oh, man. It's over. And watch what I hit you with next. Yeah. Hey, ain't no more Home Alone 2.
Starting point is 00:19:38 It's Home Alone. You done. I'm going die hard. Okay. That's a good one. Now, I went home alone. I'm going to go with something a little bit more serious, depending for the older crowd.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I'm going with the preacher's wife for number two. Oh, that's what I was about to go with. No, you weren't. No, you weren't. Yes, I was. So you've been preparing for this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it sprung this on me.
Starting point is 00:20:09 The loss now. You might as well hang it up. Oh, I'm going to go Elf with Will Ferrell. Oh, my goodness. You definitely finna lose now. Hey, the Grinch Who Stole Christmas with Jim Carrey. The greatest. Yes.
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Starting point is 00:20:40 I love you. You're struggling over there, huh? I am. You know what? F it. I got to go animation. I'm going Frozen. Yeah. He got home alone preaching W in the grinch I'm stuck
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Starting point is 00:21:22 that's it uh I guess I gotta go Polar Express what the BB gun. He just wanted his BB gun. That's it. I guess I gotta go Polar Express. What? Just because you ain't seen the movie, that don't mean it ain't good. I mean, but, listen, last one I'm going with, this is the last one, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:42 For a few laughs, I'm going with National Lampoon's I'm going national lampoon vacation yeah I'm going with I'm going with our Angelina Angelina Jolie's ex-husband Billy Bob Thornton bad Santa nah you know I got one more is that it you do honorable mention we We'll go a couple honorable mentions. Honorable mention. Best man holiday. You might as well.
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Starting point is 00:28:12 That's it. Um, obviously my dad, my dad, I did. Uh, my dad was, wasn't around.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Um, he would call, um, and people have to ask why you don't really talk about your dad. I was like, I love my dad. Hell, I named my son after my dad
Starting point is 00:28:26 and I know my dad loved me my brother my sister but I think my dad was embarrassed because I don't think he became what he thought he could become. And he thought that we would be embarrassed of him. My dad drank a lot. And my dad died at the age of 39.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And he had brothers that two of them didn't make it. If they made it to 50, they barely made it to 50. And so I think for me to see, I would want to take my dad to the game because he wasn't a part of that celebration, but I would want my dad to go to a game. I would like for him to go to a game
Starting point is 00:29:22 when I became the player that I became, Ocho. Even though that's not a family moment, I would like for him to go to a game and be on the sidelines to see his son, his baby boy, who looks like, I look exactly like my dad.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Just see, let him see that. But for my grandfather to be there to that raised and instill what he instilled in my brother and myself and to and to like right yeah i could just imagine hey i could just imagine i don't think he gonna treat us different because we got some money on you okay that ain't happening yeah Barney Porter doesn't care. He didn't care about no money. He didn't care about nothing. He was built on respect. He was built on that. And, you know, hey, he
Starting point is 00:30:11 called you, hey, boy. Yes, sir. Hey, come turn this TV. Huh? We be outside playing basketball, Ocho. Hey, one of you fellas come turn the TV. You mean to tell me you can't get up and take three steps and turn the TV?
Starting point is 00:30:31 I had that opportunity. I missed that, Ocho. It's so funny. I missed that. You mentioned having the opportunity to have him come to a game. My old boy did 23 years in the feds. So he was never there when i was a child never there in the child and you know the chat is social media it's really good i can't remember what he went
Starting point is 00:30:50 in for chat if y'all can refresh my memory because i was a child my father's name sam brown senior i think he got out maybe if i'm not mistaken 2009. And my grandma and my mama was like, why are you trying to reconcile? Why are you even trying to meet whoever your father may be? I say, listen, I just want to know who he is. I want to sit down and talk to him. You know, I want him to come check out a game. I want him to see what his son has become. I don't want to hold that hatred that you guys might have for him.
Starting point is 00:31:24 And I'm not like that. You wasn't here. They want me to hold that same disdain and distaste that they have for them. It just wasn't in me. It wasn't in me because I was so curious. I was so curious as to who my father was.
Starting point is 00:31:40 He got out of the feds, man. Had an opportunity to meet him. Had an opportunity to meet him. Had an opportunity to sit down with him. I learned that he likes cigars. He liked tobacco. Liked smoking out of a pipe. He came and watched me in New England when I was in New England.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I think that was 2011. And he passed away. He passed away from prostate cancer. Bryce Young talks about the gift that he wants. He talks about what he wanted for Christmas as a kid. Nike Elite Sox. I don't even know. What are those?
Starting point is 00:32:16 I'm not sure. That's part of the younger generation. I wonder if that's Nike Elite Sox, the ones that had the grip on it. I don't know. Oh. Oh. Oh, I wanted something with a grip to it, too, but it wasn't no socks. It wasn't no damn socks.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Out of the way. Maybe that's a Cali thing. But we wanted something else different. I can tell me and Bryce cut from two different clothes. The grip I wanted, it wasn't no socks on, Joe. Now, as a matter of fact, we need to go. I got to see that guy and see where I can get them grippy socks. He was talking about it in Houston.
Starting point is 00:32:59 You remember he was talking about them? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I need to get me a pair of those. Yeah, I got a pair of them. I got a pair of them. I got a pair of them. Yeah. But I don't think Santa was bringing me what I wanted with the grip on it when I was little. He wasn't bringing it up to the house.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Nah, you don't want none of that. You don't want none of that. What you mean I don't want none of that? Yeah, I did. Come on, you was young, man. Come on, what you going to do with them? I want it now. Okay, what about now?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Well, hold on. Christmas was the day. You could have asked for that from somebody. I guess I was on the naughty list. So I better add that. You know, I ain't nobody. You know what? I ain't even get the chance.
Starting point is 00:33:44 How was your Christmas today, man? Hey, look here. I got up. I walked the dog. I got up this morning. I walked the dog. Me and Tight Man went for a walk. I went to Denny's. Hey, Denny's. Shout you boy out. Got me a breakfast.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I got some hash browns. I got the Grand Slam. And with bacon. You know, coming with two strips of bacon and sausage. I didn't want the sausage. I got the bacon crispy and the biscuits and gravy wasn't that good. The biscuits need to be cooked
Starting point is 00:34:17 along. The biscuits were a little doughy. I'm sorry. I got to give my honest assessment. There it is. The biscuits were a little doughy. I didn't get enough of the gray. I mean, normally when I was in, you know, normally Dan would do a good job with the biscuits and gravy. Now, it's not like somebody that, you know, really specializes in biscuits and gravy.
Starting point is 00:34:37 But it was good. You know, watched the game. The kids called, got their gifts. Everybody's excited. My grandson, he got a little motorized G-Wagon truck. That's the only thing that his dad said he wants to play with. He was crying. He didn't want to go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:34:53 He wanted to stay in that truck. My daughter's called. They got their gifts. Everybody's happy. My mom hit me up. My sister, my brother, obviously my homeboys. But everything, it was great. I got some t-shirts
Starting point is 00:35:05 and you can see one of my t-shirts right here. I don't know if y'all can see it. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So I got a bunch of t-shirts. That's about that. Look, what you want? T-shirts. Give me some t-shirts. Something I'm going to wear because a lot of times when people say,
Starting point is 00:35:22 well, what do you get the person to have? Everything. More of everything. But I don't worry about it. Just give me some tea. Just give me some t-shirts. I'm good. I'm good. I don't, I don't need anything.
Starting point is 00:35:30 I don't need a whole lot of this and that. I'm very, very simple. I'm, I'm the gift giver, gift giver. Uh, I like to give gifts. I like to buy things. I like to see. Cause me, I mean, half the stuff I'm not going to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:43 So I'm, I'm really, I'm really, I'm really simple in that approach. Like I said, my sister, my brother, I have the stuff. I'm not going to. Yeah. So I'm really simple in that approach. Like I said, my sister, my brother, everybody, my mom. I got my mom a little gift, but she ain't watching. I'm going to get her something else. It's time my mom to get a new whip. So I'm going to get her right. Yeah, I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I like that. I like that. Something, you know, because my mom, you don't know my mom. My mom would tell me, ooh, I love this Maybach. I bet you do. Mama, you live in Chicago. Ain't nobody driving no 82-year-old driving no Maybach, mama. Man, you don't know my mama.
Starting point is 00:36:22 My mama be over, man. I'm trying to think who who has the best who has the uh the greatest you talk about i guess we talk about football who has the greatest nickname of all time for an nfl player mean are you looking at him he's your co-host i mean he's you know i might be i mean i might be late sometimes but i have the greatest name of all time. My name is so great. It's so crazy. I'm so loony. I changed my name to a number for marketing and
Starting point is 00:36:52 branding purposes and still to this day, I'm known by that name, by people all over the world that don't even watch the goddamn sport. Yes. I was going to go like Megatron.
Starting point is 00:37:10 That's a good one. Sweetness with Walter Payton. Sweetness was a good one, boy. Beastmode, Marshawn Lynch. There was a guy named played linebacker for the Patriots. Vincent, they called him
Starting point is 00:37:25 the undertaker he got that name in college at mississippi valley state uh prime time reggie white was the minister of defense because we know he was very very religious uh he didn't play about that he met urban frvin Frye. It was like that, too. Irvin did that after the career. Yeah, Irvin was a minister, but, you know, he had to go to Club Med for a little while. What's Club Med, Coach? He went to the gated community, but he couldn't leave when he wanted to. Really? Yeah. The fridge.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I didn't know that oh the fridge that's a good one the fridge is a good one fridge who else Night Train Lane yeah Night Train
Starting point is 00:38:17 Cheetah yeah Cheetah Cheetah is a good one that's a really good one Mean Joe Green everybody and people still don't nobody call I mean everybody big... Mean Joe Green. Everybody... And people still... Don't nobody call...
Starting point is 00:38:26 I mean... Everybody call him Mean Joe. I mean, we call him Mean Joe. Oh, hold on. I mean, I think some of his peers might call him Joe. But all the young... All the youngers... All the ones that's younger than him,
Starting point is 00:38:39 they call him Mean Joe. What about Deacon Jones? Deacon... Oh, yeah, Deacon. Deacon Jones, that's a good one. He wasn't even no Deacon, was he? No, hell no. His name was David.
Starting point is 00:38:49 His name was David Jones. He said, don't nobody come see David play, but they pay money to see Deacon. So that's why he went by Deacon. Peyton Manning was the sheriff. Brady didn't really have no nickname. No. If anything, they just called him 12. Oh, Goose. Yeah, Goose.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Sugar Ray. The Juice. Yeah. He was the first player that I really like. I'm old enough to remember that had a nickname. Like Juice and then Mean Joe because all of them was right in the 70s. They didn't have a nickname, huh?
Starting point is 00:39:25 If he did, it wouldn't want to have stuck. Uh-uh. Michael Earnwood, the playmaker. Oh, hell, we forgot Revis. Revis Island. Yeah, Revis Island, yeah. That's a really good one.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Man, it's been some it's been some uh Billy White Shoes Billy White Shoes Billy White Shoes and you know hey he still wear white shoes
Starting point is 00:39:53 to this day oh what about you will never see him without white shoes oh remember um Pac-Man yeah Adam Jones Pac-Man
Starting point is 00:40:02 yep the bus oh that's right I forgot about the bus oh that's right I forgot about the bus man oh Dante Hall the human joystick the human joystick I was in bad that dude that dude was electric
Starting point is 00:40:17 Honey Badger Honey Badger that's a cool name there that's a cool name there. That's a cool name. But NFL got some players. They got some real good names. Yeah. Moose Johnson.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Moose? Oh, Darryl. Darryl? Yeah. Darryl Moose Johnson. Air McNair. Oh, I forgot about it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:40:46 That's right. Steve McNair's name was Air. Mahone Boy. And hey, what you call him? You see what State Farm did? They took it? They call him Mahomey. Oh, so they changed it up a little bit?
Starting point is 00:41:01 Yeah, because they didn't want to give me, they didn't want to break bread with me. All they do, I mean a state farm do the right thing but uh yeah they've been some good ones man they've been some good ones but who's the best one again who's the honey bad oh, I just saw Scary Terry. Who was Scary Terry? Terry McLaurin. Oh.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I thought, but what you call him got that name too. Terry Rozier. Oh, okay. That's right. That's right. That's right. No, I mean, you got like the Mamba. Can't nobody beat Mamba but Kobe. Rest his soul. You got, I mean, you got like the Mamba. Can't nobody be the Mamba but Kobe. Rest his soul.
Starting point is 00:41:47 You got, I mean, Aaron started with Mike, but Mike, I mean, people either call him Mike or they call him MJ. Nobody really calls him Aaron. They call him Mike or MJ. Braun or King, Chef
Starting point is 00:42:04 with Steph Curry. The Big Fundamental. Shaq with Diesel. Oh, Chris Johnson. CJK2. CJ2K. Yeah. Gary Payton with the glove.
Starting point is 00:42:19 That's right. Defense. Yeah. Chuck is the round mound and rebound. Mailman. The mail, the round mound, the rebound. Mailman, the mail car, the mailman. Grandma. The greatest nickname ever. Grandma. Grandma, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:37 The greatest nickname ever. What do you mean? I just told you. I mean, you can keep thinking all you want. Nobody took it to the extreme like I did. Oh, we.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Unless you got white chocolate with Jason Williams. Hey, boy, Jason Williams and them handles and passes. Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, what you call the metal world piece? Because nobody called it Rod anymore. They call it meta world peace cause nobody call it Rod anymore they don't call it world peace they just call it meta
Starting point is 00:43:11 the greatest nickname ever I guess you know what Ocho I guess we gotta put you in there I thank you with Megatron Black Mamba, Air Jordan, and Prime.
Starting point is 00:43:39 What you call him got a great one too. Paul Pierce. Yeah. Allen Iverson, the answer. That's another. Yeah. Yeah. Allen Iverson. The answer. That's another good one. KG, the big ticket. That's a good one.
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