Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Unc, Ocho and Iso Joe react to Magic Johnson on Luka and LeBron winning a title!

Episode Date: June 14, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Iso Joe Johnson react to Magic Johnson’s comments on Luka Doncic being in shape, Tracy McGrady says Jamal Tinsley has better handles than Kyrie Irving, and Carmelo Anthony responds to Michael Beasley’s 1 on 1 challenge and much more!01:47 - Magic on Luka and Lebron winning a title18:28 - Ocho lifting again26:00 - T-Mac on best handles36:22 - Melo responds to Beasley’s challenge39:10 - Tyler Herro said he doesnt believe any history before 195042:00 - Tyreke Hill54:12 - Cam responds to Ocho56:55 - Dak Prescott1:04:30 - Man drops 200k watch in the ocean1:07:11 - Q & Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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There are so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or The Volume. Magic Johnson spoke about what Luca and LeBron must do to win a title and he had this to say about Luca. Luca gotta understand, this is not Dallas. We shouldn't have to tell you to be in shape. You should have already been about that, right?

Especially when you are a superstar. La la land, baby. They don't play that. No, they ain't about nothing but championships, Ochoa. Yeah. Yeah. So they, in every superstar, every superstar that's come there has given themchoa. Yeah. So they, in every superstar, every superstar that's come there has given them a championship.

Yeah. Wilt, Kareem. LeBron. Shaq. Colby. LeBron, Anthony Davis. Yeah. Every superstar that they've gotten

has delivered them a championship. I'm not talking to the guys that they drafted, obviously, you know, Magic got them a championship, Colby got them a championship, but they didn't trade. Obviously Shaq was a free agent, but every, every superstar that's come. And if we want to classify AD as a superstar, so be it. I don't want to nitpick about that, but I'm just saying every big, big time player, free agent that's come to the Lakers has delivered a championship.

I mean, what's Lucas got to deliver? You think Luca has a chance to deliver? Yeah, if he can stay in shape, stay healthy, you gotta stay out. And I think that's the biggest thing. I wouldn't even say the stay in shape part. I say the stay healthy part. I mean, we're...

Gotta be in shape. What caused you to get injured when you were out of shape? Because when you're out of shape, guess what happens? You pull things. You can be in shape and still get hurt now. You can. But why does he look every year he looks like he's dragging a piano behind his back?

You're right. You're right. It's because he'd be bogged down. His injuries, his body wears down on him. Yeah. He's a phenomenal. And I'm not saying that, and people see sometimes Ocho,

people just look at the end result. We're looking at the numbers that he's putting up. But why does it look like, I mean, you see he got kinesio tape all on his back, all on his shoulders, everything. He's getting hold, yeah. With chicken wide mesh tape. Yeah, we chicken why I messed a yeah No, I have a question to you know, yes lose weight in your game weight

Does it change his game? Will it change the game in the style of play the way he plays a game not having that extra weight? Will he still be able to do some of the things that he does as far as using his body? You know to play or you think everything no I don't I don't think so or Joe because you know why because mean the man's 25 26 Oh Joe, I can see when you get look you start getting in your 30 you get that old man spread Oh Joe, you know it get harder when you in your 20s, man. You should be able to just like that there Yeah, but but I'm saying I'm talking about his style of play. Will he still be able to use his body the same? Wait, oh Joe if he trained properly, you know what I mean?

You train properly, you train for that, you prepare yourself for the upcoming season, whatever type of workout you're doing. Yeah. I don't think it'll hurt him. I think it'll help him. Okay. Because when you get late in the season, when you get to February, March, April, man, your body still feels strong.

Now, I think the one thing guys have to understand, it ain't just the offseason that you get better, but during the season, you have to maintain that. Right. Maintain what you build. Yeah, because that's the hardest thing, because when you playing every night, every other night, you know, it's hard to be like, man, I gotta go in this weight room. I gotta throw these weights around the day. You know what I mean? I think that's the main thing, bro.

Like, for me, Uncle Ocho, when I play, man, I love working out before the game. Like literally before we played, two hours before, I go up there and get me a nice little lift, total body, you know, just to keep my body strong. So when I did get out there on the floor, you know, I felt good, you know what I mean? I agree.

I agree. Like I said, and look, when you're dealing with that kind of money, everybody got private chefs, everybody, everybody got personal trainers, everybody got physios and Lucas, a guy, his trainer can travel with the team. I bet you they let it just like they let Bob LeBron, Mike Macias probably travels with the team. Hey, y'all know that thing. It comes down to one thing, bro. That's having discipline. That's it. That's it.. Having the, that's it. That's it.

Hey, you gotta put some of them beers down. I ain't saying you gotta go cold turkey, but you can't be drinking beers every night, Ocho. How about this, Ojo, six pack, not a case. That's all I'm saying, get you a nice little six pack. Hey, don't do the case. I'm just, hey, hey, the hookah, don't get the big thing of hookah,

get in love with a hookah, you know what I'm saying? Don't get the one that like six to eight people can tug on it. Some of those habits for him are probably going to be hard to break, especially depending on who he has around him. Those habits that he's been doing for a very long time. We all have our vices. You know, my vice is cigars.

But if it came down to it, if I had to stop, I could stop cold turkey. When it comes to alcohol. Lemme ask you a question. Who could all let you? Could you stop smoking cigars during the season for $60 million? Huh?

Could you stop smoking cigars during the season for $60 million? Hey, hey, good. Yeah, I mean, as I'm... And I'll be a dog, that don't say I mean, I'm just asking yes or no. Could you stop smoking cigars? Of course, I'm addicted to it, of course, yeah. But that's the thing.

Look, Michael Jordan smoked cigars during the season. But Michael Jordan was in tip-top peak shape. You look at the caps on his shoulders, you look at his body. Now if Luca, hey, if Luca wasn't gonna wear down at the end of the year, as a matter of fact, hell, I bring him cigars. What do them cigars you say? I got Tampa Nuggets right now. I got some Tampa Nuggets upstairs.

Or Swishies. Whatever, whatever, okay. Hey, I'll bring him a six pack. I'll bring him a six pack. I'll bring him a six pack. What you drinking? Michelon? Hey, look. Coors?

Anheuser-Bud? What you drinking? Bud Light? Mc Light? What you want? Hey, I know he ain't drinking no boo, no sliz ball, no Luka, no old E. Hey, Liz.

So he probably drinking some Mitch beer. I think he gonna come back in much better shape, but I think he's gonna have to maintain that throughout the season. That's the toughest part, man. I've been seeing him working out this summer, Ocho and Unk, so I know he hears the whispers. Believe me, he hear the whispers. He gonna come back a different player, for sure.

Working out in the off season is the easiest thing you can do. Because you got nothing but time. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Hey, you said that two hours a day, thing you can do. I know. Because you got nothing but time. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? On your own. You got, hey, you said that two hours a day, but it gets difficult. I mean, it gets hard. Man, you getting beat up, my shoulders getting sore, but I still got to find a way to go

in there and lift. I got to bench. I got to do shoulder work. I got to do leg work. I got to do calf work. I got to do core work because that beating that I'm taking and the last thing you want is the man you trying to ward off injury as long as you possibly can. And you know once you get on show you get nicked during the season, it's hard to get

healthy because you can't get no rest. You can't get proper rest. They got your ass up in the wee hours of the morning. You can't train because you're rehabbing. You do it all this training after, after practice, you there two hours before meeting, getting all with you, then you get out, then you train, uh, you rehab, uh, icing and STEM during lunch break. Okay. You go out there and try to do some little walkthroughs and then you

got two hours after practice. Yeah. So you get treatment five hours a day. I remember them days. Yeah. See, I know you remember them days. I remember them days. Yeah, I know you remember them days. I remember them days, too. Far too long. In football, I know you can't make it through no season without lifting weights every week, right?

Well, especially, Joe and Unk. I mean, Unk's body type is a little different. I was small. I was scrawny as hell. So I had no choice but to lift weights to maintain my strength. It wasn't about me, no muscle Joe, you know? I wasn't physically imposing, but I needed because the wear and tear on my body and I was so small, I had no choice.

I had no choice but the lift weights throughout the entirety of the season because I would wear down if I didn't. I just wanted to maintain my strength and not maintain my strength to be strong, but to be able to withstand the punishment I was taking because I played reckless as hell like a goddamn ragdoll. And the position y'all playing here, y'all pretty much running wind sprints the entire

week. Yeah, base, base. I was already undersized. I only weighed 228. Yeah. I weighed 228. So I had to be, I had to be strong, base. I was already undersized. I only weighed 228. Yeah. I weighed 228. So I had to be, I had to be strong, strong. And I held on till about week 13.

After a while, that thing started coming down. All of a sudden, whoo. Hey, like I said, I fought it long as I could, Joe. Hey, it's the same thing with basketball, though. Think about it. When you got back to backs and you playing four games and five nights, man, you still got a five time.

I ain't saying you got to go in there and squat no 400 pounds, but you got to go in there and keep the body strong, you know? Because when you go through that rigorous season for six to eight months, bro, if you're not lifting weights every week, your body is going to break down. That's just the way it is. Yeah. Yep. And as you get's just the way it is. Yeah, yep.

And as you get older, the thing that I like that, you know, Mike was like, hey, don't worry. Hey, I was only on one of day practices, Ocho. Yeah. Mike said, hey, go get your lift in. I was able to get my, hey, practice in the morning, lift in the afternoon, kept me good and fresh. Hey, make sure I got my workout Monday after the game.

Got Tuesday, was all about me, what I want to do Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I was off. I ain't do no. Once Thursday was rolled around. Yeah. Ain't no more lifting for the kid. Yeah. Cause I go, I go Monday through Thursday. Yeah. Four days. Four straight days, Ocho. Boy, shit.

Hey, the one good thing. The devil is alive. Oh straight days, oh Joe boy shit One good thing I found out this when I was playing in Brooklyn Playing with Kevin Garnett man. We used to get these lifts in after the game right after the game It may be a one-setter, but your one-setter may be like 15 20 reps It may be like four or five exercises that way, you know, you don't went through that game. Now you lift that weight, them weights. So in the morning, when you wake up, you don't have that lactic acid just sit there. You know what I mean? You have a little pop to you. Kevin Garnett told me that he said he got it from Dennis Rodman. And ever since, bro, I had been doing it. And I left Brooklyn. And when I got to Miami, hell, everybody was in the weight room after the game.

D-Way, UD, everybody's in there. I said, man, hell, everybody was in the weight room after the game. D-Way, UD, everybody was in there. I said, man, listen, it was just a great environment to be in. But if that's one thing I can give athletes, bro, especially hoopers, after game, you should get you a good a good lift. And it ain't got to be heavy, just something nice to keep the body toned and strong. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, Joe, after, that Monday morning, I'm so as a mother. I'm so bad, my shoulders, my shoulders aching so bad, bad, my elbows, my knees. Especially if you come out playing on that turf.

So Joe, I don't know if you had, if y'all, when you got to the league, did everybody have astroturf? Because by that time they had started to transition to field turf. But but I was playing when they had that real that cement with that. Yeah Yeah Understand me y'all playing a gladiator sport the contact that y'all got that's like a car rig Yeah, you know I'm saying every time you collide with somebody like that's gotta be rigorous I know they so after y'all play on Sunday what what y'all probably don't have to report to practice to win, Arkin Ocho. Yeah, Monday, Monday you go and watch,

you watch film on Monday, and then sometime they give you a victory, victory Monday where you don't gotta go in. So you play Sunday. Right, you don't have to, yeah, you just go get your own lift. You know, you do your own thing. Own thing.

That's what, but I was, it didn't matter. I'm always, I remember we played Miami on the Monday night, Ocho. Yeah. We got back at, We got back at like five, like 5.30 in the morning. I was like, I'm gonna get me a workout. Yeah, and get it out of the way, huh? I got it out of the way. Yeah.

That's really the only time that I didn't come back over there that Tuesday. I got my workout in. Always Tuesday was my workout day and clean my locker out. Yeah. So our Lysol, get all the dirt out my shoes And stuff vacuum it out. I did that we're home. That was it for the day But uh, I had to get that work. I had to get that work in man

I just I just had to I didn't feel right if I didn't lift I got to get try to get some of that Soreness out because like you said that West Coast offense the tight ends He does a lot of running and you know, sometimes you catch more passes than the other, but hey, you gonna get that blocking in, cause TD back there, TD gonna get his touch. TD gonna get 25, 30 carats a game. Hey, hey listen, so in basketball, it's about equivalent to about a little over three miles,

right, a game, especially if you want them heavy hitters and you playing top minutes. In football, cause y'all playing wide receiver tight end, it's a bunch of sprints, how many sprints you think y'all playing wide receiver tight end, it's a bunch of sprints, how many sprints you think y'all running a game? Ooh, Lord. That's a good question. Probably, let's see.

Let's just say, Ocho, you catch 10 passes. If you caught 10, it all depends on how many players plays we have. We might have 25, we might have 30, we might have 35. Now some, you running a shallow cross. Some, you running a flat route have 30, we might have 35. Now some, you run in a shallow cross. Some, you run in a flat route. Some, you run in a stick. Some, you run in a scene.

So for me, I would say... probably... 20 hundred yards, Brett. That's a lot, man. Yeah, but you gotta think, it That's a lot man. Yeah, but you gotta think it sounds like a lot, but you gotta think yes each play is three seconds full speed three to five seconds three seconds full speed, right? Seconds full speed rest

So it is a continuous It's especially if especially if you in shape and shape, but you mean you good. And even if you in shape and shape, guess what? You ready that two minute drill? And let me throw you a couple of passes in a row. Hey, I'm going right into that fella. Hey, get in there. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles,

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Welcome to the You Versus You podcast. I'm Lex Berero, and every week we sit down with some of the biggest names in entertainment to talk about the real stuff. The struggles, the doubts, and the breakthroughs that made them who they are. We go deep, flowing childhood trauma, family, overcoming loss, and the moments that shape their journey. These honest conversations are meant to take the cape off our heroes with the hope that their humanity inspires you to become a better you and therefore set you free to live the life of your dreams.

Here's a sneak peek. I'm trained to go compete. I'm trained to be like harder, but sometimes that mentality stops you from stopping and smelling the flowers in your own garden. Is it wrong to want more? We migrated, our family migrated here. I'm like second generation. Who's not going to have a trauma coming from a foreign country and coming to the United

States? You don't speak English? Oh, check this out. Speaking of lifting, Joe, we got to talk about the video Ocho posted this morning. Where he pose, bruh? Oh, Clement. Oh, I forgot, forgot about that this morning, man. If the bar touching his chest. Nah, it ain't touching his chest. Nah, it ain't touching his chest. It don't count. What don't count?

If the bar does not touch your chest, it ain't touching his chest. Nah, it ain't touching his chest. It don't count. What don't count? If the bar does not touch your chest, it does not count. Hey, don't nobody touch my chest but my woman. Oh. If that bar does not touch your chest, it does not count. Says who? Says the bench press. Look, Google, hey, look up the definition of a bench press.

No, no, no, I don't care what the definition of the bench press is. I'm a bench. You ain't finna change it. Oh, no, no, I don't care what the definition of a bench press is. I'm bench... You ain't fit to change your oath just because you don't do it to who said. Nobody. Hold on. That's a no rep. I'm benching how I see fit and why I look the way I do.

No rep. No rep. Hey, you saw how easy... Yeah. Hey, listen, they stay with me. You see how slow, how easy and slow? I'm going to do 315 next week for you, too. I bet you don't. how easy and slow. I'm gonna do 315 next week for you too.

I bet you don't. And listen, I'm, oh, I can do 315, what you talking about? Did you see the idea there? You ain't do but like three, four reps. I only did five, that's all I wanna do. I just wanna talk to you about it. Touch your chest. I just wanna see if I still had it.

Hey, my titty's too big, I can't tell you, I can't tell you my chest, I just want to see if I still had a my titties too big. I can't I can't I can't tell me just I got I just got them done uh Uh, kalil zabar says shannon sharp nightcat. Tell him doesn't count as a full rep bar needs to get to the chair This is how I know those dumbbells you were lifted the other day had to be fake struggling with 225 agree You gotta touch that bar to your chest or it don't count 85. I don't have to do nothing. I was supposed to follow the NFL rules. I ain't following NN1, so I ain't, I'm the guard not touching my chest.

Y'all just mad y'all not stronger than me. How about that? I don't know, they might not be. I don't know, you're not talking to me. We lift the same amount of weight. What are you talking about? Whatever you do, I can do. I tell you what I do. I tell you what I do.

I tell you what I do. I bet you $5,900, whatever you max, I'll rep it. Mm. We're going to- Whatever you max, I'll rep it. Matter of fact, double or nothing. Double, let's double that. Triple or nothing. OK, bet.

Whatever you max, I'll rep it. This is what you fail to realize. I just look like this. I don't give a damn what you look like. I'm just as strong as you are. Whatever you max, I will rep it. All right, all right, all right, okay. Because you saw me with two chains.

I'll tell you about with no warm-up, I just went in there and did 225 15 times. Well, that's what I just did. That's what I just did. I just walked in the gym and did 225. But if I rep it, didn't touch your chest. Huh? All I'm saying is, whatever you max, 315, 350, whatever you max, I'll rep it.

Man, you don't want no smoke, yo. Yeah, I do. I want all the air. You don't want no smoke? As a matter of fact, I want Joe. I want Joe $100 on top of that, too. Yes. Yeah. I'm gonna cover Joe. Hey. Hey, I promise you, when it come to the weight room,

this ain't what you want. It is. This ain't what you want. It is. I just look like this. You think because I'm small in stature, I can't lift what you lift. I can do the exact same thing you can do. I'm telling you.

Ask the chat. Ask the chat, do they think you could bitch with me? I don't care what the chat think. We got to have a what the Chad thing We gotta have a lift off. We gotta have a Close I can hold on. Let me tell you something. Let me say this. I'm not cocky. I'm convinced. You hear me? I'm not cocky. I'm convinced And Joe you can't beat me whoopin Oh Joe this what I do I bet'll tell you what I do, Ocho. Ocho, this is what I do. I bet my salary to your salary. Wait, which job?

Any job you want. You take ESPN, you take night camp, you take club shesheh, whatever job you want. Okay, I like that. I like that. I hope my kids watching, we gonna have a good Christmas. Hey, Dan, wait! No, you not. Hey, I'm giving you the same day. Hey, Joe, when I'm done, boy, I'm gonna have me a property. You hear me?

Ocho, I'm begging you to. Hey, you know what? Hey, move your, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I though. I just look like, hey, what you saying? I just look like this. I just look like this. Hey, I don't even, first of all, 84% said me 16. I don't know who those 16% is. I don't know who they are. That's what's wrong with society. We are visual creatures. So anything of size, they just assume it's stronger.

That's just the way we are as society and in people So anything of size, they just assume it's stronger. That's just the way we are in society and in people and as humans. Not understanding, hey Joe, if I'm not all yoked up and big, then I'm not strong. Then you have people that are foolish and saying I'm doing 120s and the weights are fake. That's how you know, well he's so small, we don't expect him to be able to do that eight times. I'm very strong for my size when people don't understand.

Joe, that's why I know if me and Uncle, it was a tussle, I'ma fold him like a lawn chair. What? He ain't even bling. He had to laugh at that one on me. Bad Ocho. I'm not the confidence. I definitely love to have you as a teammate because I know we're going to go out there, even if we go get our ass beat, Ocho'scho gonna have us convinced that we can win this game. Every time, every time.

He is not lacking in that department. Cause boy, he ain't lacking no confidence. Cause boy, if you think for one second, you got a chance to beat me in some basketball, boy, you lost your mind. All right. You lost it. Listen, I'm not Michael Beezy, boy.

I don't care who you is. I ain't Michael Beezy, boy. This is Ocho nowasley. I don't care who you is. I ain't Michael Beasley, boy. This is Ocho now. This is me, this is what I do. Ocho. Check my resume. And I bet you won't even score no more than two points. See, you might get lucky and throw up a Hail Mary.

You might make a Hail Mary. You look like one of them type throw up a Hail Mary. But outside of that, you didn't score no more than two points, man. Bad joke, Ocho's over here, he gonna lift board at me. Lord have mercy. It's than two points, man. Right. That's a joke. You owe it to somebody. He gonna lift a board at me. Lord have mercy. It's what I do, man.

I can tell by that little form you just did right there. I can tell. Oh, no. Hey, hey, you see me. Hey, listen. You see me. Hey, look. Watch my wrist break.

I'm not gay, but I know how to break the wrist. You hear me? Hey, Joe. Hey, hold on. Let me turn to the side so you can see it, Joe. Hey, that goose neck, you got that goose neck? Yeah. Yeah.

Man, please. How much is on there? Oh, man. How many times I do it? I'm feeling good tonight, bro. I feel, hey, I don't know if you see the chat earlier a John nobody's either chat earlier but well I was about to cry behind these goddamn glasses boy what the chat well y'all some funny people man yo you could can you see the chat Joe earlier yeah yeah man listen

many I would try which I'm a I would hold it in so bad, man. Dude, they're posting that chat so fucking. By Twan. I can't see, I don't see, I can't see your chat. Hey. As you was over here crying, I was with everybody, Jordan laughing. I'm like, man, I gotta keep it together. I'm like, what's funny?

Man, man. As she get in here and tell about, she got a, oh. Hey, that got damn chat was funny. Yeah, they don't play. Man, I was like, man. Dude, I caught on. Yeah. Uh, I put in something for you, Ocho.

What is that? Tracy McGrady had a take this week. He went on the young man in the three podcasts and said, I don't think nobody had better handles than Jamal Tinsley, even Kyrie. Joe. Jamal Tinsley was in my draft class, 01. Wait, Jamal Tinsley? You mean Jamal Crawford? No, Jamal Tinsley. Jamal Tinsley, he played with, he played in Indiana.

Yeah, I think he went to Iowa State if I'm not mistaken. Iowa State he did. He got handles like that, Joe? He had handles, Ocho. He had some handles, but I don't, I ain't, ain't nobody got no handles like Kyrie. His was tight though. He had a tight handle, but it wasn't no Kyrie.

Time out, time out, time out. I don't, and I mean no disrespect to the sport of basketball chat, I apologize. Jamal Tinsley. Yeah. That's a name we knew you probably weren't going to know that one, Ocho. Don't worry about that.

Yeah. But if McGrady say he's better than Kyrie Irvin. He just said handles. He just said handles. He said handles. Oh, okay, okay. So he had the same type of creativity. Yeah, yeah.

He had a nice bag with him. Same layer package and everything. I don't know if he was, ampedxion is like Kyrie, but he had a nice bag with him. Same layer package and everything. I don't know if he was ever as good as Kyrie, but he had a nice handle. He had a nice handle. He was a big point guard, too. He would post stuff from time to time, but to say his handle was better than Kyrie's, that's a stretch, bro. Okay, okay. Yeah, big stretch. Hey Kyrie, and for me, I relate everything in soccer terms.

To me, Kyrie's creativity is similar to that of Neymar and Ronaldinho. You know, he's a magician with the ball. They are magicians with the ball. And not in the gym playing around. I'm talking about in game, where you can't make a mistake where you try to pull certain moves off. You have to execute it and every time they do do it, man, they do it with just, I mean, effortlessly.

Hey, look, because it's really read and react. Some of the stuff that them dudes do, or even us as athletes that we do in a game, a lot of times you read and react, and so you may pull something off that you've never practiced before. You know what I'm saying? I'm just keeping it real be you may pull something off that you've never practiced before Yeah, you know I'm saying I'm just keeping it real you may pull something off you've never practiced before but it's just read and react So, you know just kind of come to you

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like I said, I hey he played against him But it's hard for me to bleep and I've seen a lot of guys having a ball. Yeah, Isaiah Thomas could pat the rock Isaiah Thomas was the first guy I'm talking about. I'm talking about Isaiah of guys having the ball. Isaiah Thomas could pat the rock. Isaiah Thomas was the first guy, I'm talking about Isaiah would come up to court, you literally doing this right here, da da da da. Watch him in the All-Star game. Yeah. White Chocolate had handles.

I've never seen anybody have handles like Kyle Rito. Hey, Jason Williams was very entertaining with that ball in his hands, boy. Yeah, for sure. Very entertaining with that ball in his hands. Hey. Yeah, for sure. Very entertaining with that ball in his hands. Hey, you can't be worried about having no turnovers or making no mistake playing like that, though. Yeah.

Them dudes come out, they play free, they have fun. Hey, they let loose. You know, a lot of guys ain't willing to take them chances, some of them chances those dudes, some of them chances those dudes take doing the game, man. You gotta be real. Hell nah. You can get your ass snatched up during the game, man. You gotta be real. Hell nah. You can get your ass smashed up out the game.

Absolutely. There you go. They'll pull you out? Hell yeah. I'm talking about in the NBA, huh? Yeah, if you ain't out there and you ain't him and you out there trying stuff and you turn the ball up, man, you gonna come sit next to me. Oh, well, you gotta understand,

at the NBA level, dudes, if you really not like that, there would be no level of comfort to pull that shit off anyway in a real game. Man, there's some dudes out there who got some handles, they just scared to pull it out. They scared to try some of that stuff in a real game. Like, you see some of these bigs, you watch some of these dudes play in the summertime,

you would, you, hold on, man, why you ain't doing that during the regular season doing okay? Okay? Okay? Okay? Okay? I mean yeah No, they pull it off and get a cup of turn over boy. You gonna be sitting down Hmm. Oh, yeah for sure you know you can't they're nothing let you just just Arbitrarily just and turn in a, Ocho, where it matters. Okay. You want to be in practice and you try some stuff like that, but you get in the game where wins and losses matter. Yeah.

It's, Hey, it's just like, you might try some stuff in the warmup line, pat and go. Ocho. Yeah. Look what's on the bar, Ocho. Where it is. When that is four plates, is that, four plates? What's that, four or five? Mm-hmm.

Why you struggling? Why you struggling? Hey, I bet you can't tell, I tell you what. You can't even hold it. That's three reps with four or five. You ain't never done four or five. You ain't never done, man, what you talking about? Yeah, you gonna say you squat it

Yeah, as a matter of fact, I probably can bitch what you squat Don't do that. Why why you bump? Why you bumping up? You might you might want to pump your brakes a little bit and talk to some of my teammates and asking that's full fire right there Joe Oh Joe, don't kid no right there Joe. Oh Joe don't catch no. With no spas and a suicide grip. Oh Joe don't catch no hernia out here trying to let no 405 man. Hey Joe, Joe I was doing 405 when I was in the league Joe. I was squatted 650 when I was in the league Joe. I worked out with Lyman Joe. You can't squat 650 with a two-ply suit. Hold on Joe. See that's why I know you don't know

if you know you have you ever been in a two-ply suit Hey, Joe Joe you see have you ever been in a two-ply suit? No, I only I want to read three piece Every time every time I say I do something right he never believed me until I have people that come on and play with me Ain't nobody gonna come on. I can call Chip. I can call Chip. Call Chip, call Ray. Chip or Chip Martin, he'll tell you. Yes, Ochoa, Ochoa worked out the linemen. I worked out with the linemen. All I know, pound for pound, when I was in the league,

I was the second strongest player. I was 225 pounds with a max of 470. You was the second strongest player. I was 225 pounds with a max of 470. You was the second strongest player on your team, maybe. No, in the league, body weight, pound for pound. Man. Hey, Ar, you did that with no, with no Spiderman. No, I, no, by myself, yeah. Hey, he probably, listen, hey, that was, it was probably elevated. They probably had some help. Ain't no elevating.

Hey, you see, pull it back. You can see what's back there. You can see what's back there. Hey, you see these arms? Look, I take it down slow and controlled, low chow. By myself. Touching my chest. That is a bitch.

Hey, that's a magic trick. I don't believe that. Hey, look, look. I gotta see that for myself. That's my, hey, hey, hey, Joe, that's AI, trick. I don't believe that. Hey, look, look. I gotta see that for myself. That's my, hey, Joe, that's AI, Joe. That's AI, that ain't real. Yo, okay, AI. AI.

Hey, chat, that's AI, I don't believe that. Hey, I ain't gonna lie to you. That's one thing, the chat, no. Hey, look, I ain't gonna lie to you. That ain't nothing but some squad waiting for me, boy. 405? I ain't gonna sit here and lie to you. I ain't even trying to get under that lift no 405. Boy, please. Hey, Joe, it ain't gonna say that lie to you. I ain't finna try to get under that lift no four or five.

Boy, please. Hey, Joe, it ain't that hard, Joe. He just look like that. You know, y'all got, you know, football players have different bills from basketball players, for sure. I do, Joe, look at me, Joe. I do, I do. Look at my arms, bro.

Here you go, here you go. Look at my arms, Joe. Hey, I'm being. But, I tell you what, Ocho, give me six weeks. What you gonna do in six? What you, what you, you said give me six weeks. What you talking about? Okay.

You want to do, Ocho, you really want to do this? You know I work out every day, uh? No, I'm saying, you really want to do this? I work out every day. I ain't played football in 12 years. I work out every day like I'm finna get a hello You think it's been since I played football. Damn you think I'm retired yesterday I'm there. I'm there tell you I work out every day like I'm finna get a phone call. You just never know Just you I've been I've been retired 22 years, okay

Okay, we're double here what you want to do I I've been retired 22 years. Okay. Okay. With double hip. What you wanna do? I mean, what you wanna do? You know what, Ocho? I'll beat you, I wouldn't even put my feet on the floor. Man, listen, six weeks, what you wanna do? I can hold my feet up too, what you saying?

Hey, Ocho, Ocho, I'll beat you with my feet up like this here. I can do the same thing. Ocho, I'll put my feet up. It's all about core at that point. Hey, you see how I wiggle up my feet? I love to be wiggling my feet on the bench with you. I want to know what's up with this six week challenge. What you trying to do?

Because I love a good competition. I thought you were wasting my time with you, man. I thought because you know what's up. You don't want no smoke with me. You know better. You know what it's worth a lot. Ocho, don't let him get your blood pressure up. I'm good Joe.

Joe, I'm good Joe. But when it come to competing, can't nobody see me in nothing. I don't care who it is or what it is. Joe, this is what I do Joe. Bad. Ocho, I don't even really live like that no more, old Joe. But for you,

it lost its bite over there. Yeah. I mean, oh Joe, you can't even do 315. How you gonna tell me what I can do? I'll do it tomorrow, uncle, before my flight. I'll do it before my flight tomorrow to show you, unk. Hey, lifting weight ain't nothing to me, unk. I been-

Hold on, I'm trying to think. Hold on, where we go, hold on. Listen, let me finish. I been pushing weights since the 80s. I been lifting weights since the 80s. All right, now. What you talking about? I ain't know.

Huh? I ain't know. Hey, Joe, Joe, I done done it all, Joe. Why I was a mule for the cartel Joe? What you talking about? This what I do. Hey, um, look at this Look at that. Let me put it in the camera for you so you can see. Joe, you see that? That's 30 inches, boy That's 30 That's half of that

Hey, I don't know about y'all I ain't been wasting my time, but I love you, Ochoa. Hey, Joe, I took a nap today, Joe. Yeah, I tell. I took a nap today, so I'm... You must be had something to drink, too, thinking you could out... You could outbid me. I ain't drink nothing but this Avian.

You... It's spiked with something. Mello responded to Michael Beasley's challenge to play one-on-one. I'm not losing one-on-one game, bro. I've never lost a one-on-one game. I'm not saying I'm going out there playing. What I'm saying, I got ridiculed for doing this ish at the highest level for being a one-on-one Ian.

Joe, our DMs are flooded with people telling me to ask you if you'd beat Mello one-on-one. I mean, I think I'd beat anybody. Okay, Ochoa, I think I'd beat anybody. Here's why I tell y'all, I think the one-on-one game is very different versus, you know, playing in a five-on-five setting of ice-o-station. You know, one-on-one at the top, at the top. That's how you got the name, Ice-O-Joe. Hey man, I've been doing it for a long time now. I've been doing it for a long time.

That's how you got it. they not understand what I so mean? Yeah, but you know, you know as athletes, man, everybody feel like, you know, they can't be beat. But I tell you what, I tell y'all what's gonna happen. I think all these matchups, I do think they gonna happen. I think they may happen under, you know, different conditions, meaning, you know, we gonna have to get it together, you know,

get the sponsors right, you know, but they definitely probably, more than likely gonna happen, for sure. Because I know the fans want to see it. Look, anywhere I go, since we brought this topic up or since Lance and Beasley has played, this is all the talk has been about. So I know the people, I know the chat want to see it,

I know everybody want to see it, so I'm sure it's gonna happen. Yeah. I think that's dope, too. A different dynamic, you know, for those that are playing in a structured environment, 5-by-5 anymore, and have a competition, a one-on-one competition, and it's something that can continue to... This can be big, too, boy.

That's what I'm saying, Ocho. That's what I'm saying. It can become very, very big, and somebody sitting on the meal tickets, somebody sitting on the Golden Oose, a golden egg, whatever you want to call it for NBA players. And this can also falter into other sports too. In any, any- What?

What you talking about one-on-one sitting? Yeah, one-on-one sitting. They can, listen, it could be football, it could be basketball. I'm not sure if there's anything else outside of that that would be interesting to us culturally that people wouldn't wanna see, but football and then basketball

would be really, really dope. Yeah. I know everybody wanna see these basketball matchups, man. And they gon', it'll be fun, it'll be interesting as well. It's something I'm very intrigued about, so it's gon' happen. We gon' do it for the culture,. We gonna do it for the culture. We gonna do it for the fans for sure.

You gotta make sense first now. We ain't just, hey, we ain't just getting out there. Just get out there now. Hello, hello. There you go. No, hell no. You gotta make, if you make dollars, it makes sense. There we go.

There we go. Hey. Tyler Hero says he doesn't believe in history before 1950. I don't believe anything that happened before 1950, for real. Like, how do we know? When did Christopher Columbus come to America?

The land, whatever. They said 1492, how do we know? I think these young kids just be saying stuff to say stuff. And we're in a different area, Uncle Ocho. Everybody want to have a viral moment now. Everybody has a platform. Everybody speak their mind. So it's a lot different now. And think about it, Ocho, guys, they taking history out of the schools.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, whose idea was that? That was Trump, huh? Changing the curriculum and stuff? Trying to erase history so we don't know things that happened before we were here? And that's crazy, I understand. I mean, he got grandparents?

So if they tell him something, I'm sure his grandparents was born before 1950. He from, Tyler Hero, not from the crib. Is he from Miami? Nah, nah. I don't know where he from, but I mean, so anything that his grandparents tell him, he don't believe. His grandparents were born before 1950.

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Tyreek Hill runs a 10-1-5 to win the 100 meters of the last chance sprint series. Joe, take a look at this. And he's out of five, counting in four. Somebody right there with him now. Who was that? Who was that came in second next to Reek? Well, he was moving. I don't know. Hold on, hold on. Who was that he was racing against? He was, uh, it's called the 100 meters at the last chance sprint series. That boy got some wheels on him, man.

Yeah, he can, he can run. But you gotta understand, Tyreke is still heavy for a sprinter. In order for Tyreek to be like a legit sprinter, Tyreek needs to be somewhere between 150 and 165. Tyreek weighs about 185. Tyreek's big, bro. Yes. Noah Lyles weighed like 160, 165 tops.

Yeah. Sprinters are, I don't know if you've ever seen them, but they especially, they are small. Very small. Hey, but- Tyree got too much muscle. Yeah, you know what? And he said it on the show, he said he got too muscle bound.

He dropped, he said he dropped like a 10, so he's like 185. Hey, that's it. And P look, and, uh, people like, well, they got high school guys running, but you got to realize Tyreek is not especially in track. Right. Tyreek is a football player. He's a football player. So let me ask you a question.

How many of those guys in high school that can bet run 10 one or nine, nine, two can run a stop route? To run a speed out to run a dig to run over to go run a comeback See you take zero anybody that can do something that they don't normally do and do it at an elite level I take my hat off. Yeah, I Take my hat off you know if Ant-man come out there and he ran a comeback

and he run like damn, that's boy, that's pretty good for a guy that ain't ran a round in seven, eight years. Tyreek don't really Tyreek trains to be a football player. Now those guys that run that nine, nine, two, how many of them going to go cross the mill and catch that ball? They didn't have alligator arms. I see like, I see guys, I've seen guys faster than that. Ask Reynaldo O'Neil my what it's like to catch a football.

He ran that shallow cross. It was zoned. He ran it like a man. He went right back to track. Go back and pull it up. Google it. I remember he was fast as hell. Yeah. Hey, hold on.

Oh, did y'all see the dude Speed and, uh, uh, what's the, yeah. Y'all seen him? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Speed ain't beating Tyreek. The one thing Tyreek got is get out. Yeah.

He ain't beat him in a 40. He, hey, in a 40, Tyreek really is get out. Yeah. He ain't beat him in a 40. In a 40, Tyreek really might beat Noah Lyles. He can't beat him in a hundred. No. But in a 40. Yeah. But look, Noah Lyles' strength is the back half of the race.

Yes. Because he legit, he turned himself into a hundred meter runner. Yes sir. But he's a 200 meter runner. A 200 meter runner. That's why Usain was so good. Usain Bolt was a 200 meter runner. That's why Usain was so good. Usain Bolt was a 200 meter runner.

So he got strength. If he could ever get out there, if he could ever, if he's even with you after 10 meters, bye. Is it rap? Bye. And so he's a long strider. So once he gets unwound, oh man. That's why I still believe believe had he run through the tape

in Beijing in 2008, I still believe that might have been 9-5-5 or below. Because you got to think about it, the last 10 meters on Joe, he's doing this, he's pounding his chest sideways and he still read sub nine seven. Yeah. And boy, he ran a time celebrating the last 10 meters that nobody in the history has ever run running through the tape. I'm gonna lose Tyson gay and a Johann Blake. They got the second fastest time.

Nice six at nine six nine. He ran nine six eight and celebrated the second fastest time. 96 South. At 969. Yeah. He ran 968 and celebrated the last 10 meters. Yeah. Now you're special, man. Oh, man. It was something to watch too. You got, I mean, it's always great to see somebody, see a professional do what they do professionally.

Yeah. I saw Michael Johnson run to 200 meters and run to 400 meters at the Olympic trials because in 96 the Olympic trials were in Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah. So I saw him break the world record and I saw him run sub 44 into 400 meters. To see them guys, to see them in their element,

just like to see Steph or LeBron or Luca, to see somebody in their element. What is that training like for something like that? The track? Yeah. Well, you don't want no part of that. Yeah, cause they run it because, see the thing, Michael was very unique.

Michael, he had it like, okay, my goal is, he wanted to have both world records, but he knew he couldn't break them at the simultaneously. So he focused on one, he went and got the two. So he got the 200 record, and so now he set his sight on the 400. Because Lee Evans, Lee Evans' dad, Lee Evans Sr., had the world record, he ran that at Mexico City,

above altitude in 1968. The record held until Butch Reynolds broke it. He ran 43, I think Butch ran 43.29, 43.27. And then Michael broke it at the world championships in 1999 in Seville at 43.18. And then Wade Van Niekert broke it in the Olympics in 2016 in Rio, He ran 4303 Yeah, I'm asking because I know both of y'all ran track, right?

No, no, no, I read track I read track Do watch oh I play soccer, you know soccer's my love man. I'm gonna track That's why when you asked by when the tracks raining like, you should explain and I'd be watching. It's hell, Joe. I don't know that. Especially if like, like for 400 meters, they run a lot of, they run a lot of 600 meters.

Yeah. They do, I mean, they run a lot of six, 400 meters. See, the thing what Michael had is that Michael had 400 meters so when he dropped down to 200 he had to speed. So but when he go to 400 he had this turnover so he could, so Michael could run it any kind of way you wanted to. His style was very unique. You might not ever see that again.

A guy that could run sub, I mean he a run sub 20, a sub 20. You're at 1932. Yeah. From lane three. Now put him out in there and like, cause there, if you go back and look at it now, look at it all the fast times in the 200, they come from lays five, six or seven. If he'd have been out there, cause we didn't used to think middle of the track with the best lanes three, four, five.

Now it's like five, six, seven. But that endurance, that work that they put in, uh, Joe, is regular. Cause when I, when I run, when we run, we would run, we would run 21 10s, Joe, you had 14 seconds to make it. And then you get 45 seconds rest. Yeah. And I, I didn't see my daughter run them two fifties. Them three. Yeah. We read a lot of two hundred.

We run two hundreds. We have you run two hundreds. We have 32. So we like 32 seconds. And then we walk back across and then we take off again. So we run 20 of those. We run 15, 150. Oh, then Jumbo Day was Friday. So we run three, four hundred, threes, three 200s, three 150s.

And you had to make all the hun- you had to make the 400s in under a minute. So you couldn't- you had to run at least a minute. And then when you do the 400, you get to walk that one lap and when you get back to the- when you get back to the top, you start. But you can only take, you only got four minutes though, Joe. So you ain't no taking no 10 minutes. You had four minutes to recover. That was your recovery time. See, I ran the 400 in high school. That wasn't my event, but I ran it.

But so it was cool for me. I could easily make a minute, no strain whatsoever. Well, let's do it right now. Race me to 400, man. Race me to 400, huh? for me I could I could easily I could easily make a minute no strain whatsoever let's do it right now race me to 400 man race me to 400 huh you want a basic band with artificial heel pump I ain't trying to hear you oh excuse you got excuse race me to 400 you retired after I stopped running I ain't trying to hear all that race me to 400 I ain't even want to take advantage of a man that ain't got no real Hey, listen, man, a handicap or not. Everybody can get it with that 5900 What?

No, we got triple we got like we got like salary bed on this bench press. Okay. Hold on Why we do why I gotta just be bench press let's compete in everything Let Ben do what you want to do. Oh Joe. I want to race. I want to play paintball. Let's compete in everything. Let's bend. That's what you want to do, Ocho. I want to race. I want to play paintball. Let's do basketball. I want to do all type of stuff. Ocho, I got artificial heel. I'm not running.

We can make a car out of it. I tell y'all what. I tell y'all what we can do. We can bet on this ping pong table. Now, Joe, don't. Look, look, look, look, look, look. You claim the Chinese people come over there and train with you. That's a good bet that's a good bet for all through the month.

Why I tell y'all love something cat raggedy hear me? Yo don't play with me on the ping pong table. I ain't played in a while. I know I play around a lot Joe. You don't see me play tennis. Do not do not play with me on the ping pong table, Joe. Oh Joe, oh Joe, oh Joe. I'm telling you, hey, hey, oh Joe. You got that cushion, you got that padded paddles, don't you Joe? I mean, I got the wood paddles, the padded paddles,

I got whatever you need. Yeah, I ain't played, I ain't played a whole lot with the padded paddles. We normally play with the sandpaper. You remember the sandpaper, Joe? I got whatever you need. Yeah, I play I play I only played a whole lot with them Oh the padded paddles. I do we normally play with the sandpaper They see them pattern ones you got you put that little spin on that boy Oh, you ain't no returning it you better keep that little wooden paddle you got no that that ain't what you want Joe Okay. Yeah Ask about me ask about me, ask about me.

Man, come on, man. Ask about me in overtime, man. Ask my homeboy Buckwheat, I know Buckwheat might see this. Ask him about me on the ping pong battles, man. That's what I do, man. At Hadley Park and Overtown at Gibson, when it come to ping pong on the table at Mo Park, that's what I do.

I'm telling you, Joe, you don't wanna do that, man. You don't do that to yourself, Joe. Ocho, Ocho, I'm gonna be in Miami in a couple weeks, brother. Oh, man, how's that your boy? I'll come back, listen, I fly to the south of France in the morning, right? I'm there till the 20th.

And when I get back, I'm here. All right. Y'all practicing and stuff here? We playing, practicing, I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna come to the practice. I'm gonna take y'all boys to Tussies. No, no, Jo. This ain't gonna be that type of party. No, no, no. We not like that. Just to go eat.

We just going to eat. We got plenty of places we can go eat. Thank you. Yeah, we got plenty of places we can go eat now. I know, I know. I just, you know, it's like a little fellowship. Yeah, I got you. I got you. I got you. Yeah, know, you you know y'all come with me. You gotta pay everything free It's how we watch this game tomorrow. It's gonna be on CBS. Oh, yeah. Yeah on CBS 4 o'clock man The Detroit Amps we play at 4 o'clock

We play against the triplets the team that I play with, you know my entirety time playing here big three. So it's gonna be a good one, man. Make sure y'all tuned in. Hey, Ocho, Cam heard your response to his Madden criticism and this is how he responded. Let's take a listen to what Cam had to say. Okay, let's nip this in the bud right now. And it just hit my spirit. now and it just hit my spirit. Mr. Chad Johnson, Chad Ocho-Sinko. I got a good bet for you. He's taking too long, man. Come on, man, get it out. Since I got respect for you and your platforms with Nightcap,

I know you got respect for me and my platform with 4th and 1. How about this? We play a best two out of three, mad at match with 85 or less teams, and the loser gets to sacrifice their platform for a night or a week. So 4th to 1, if you win, nightcap takes over. If I win, nightcap is taking over by fourth to one. Oh, I see what you mean.

Okay, okay, okay. I like that, I like that. That's a good one, that's a good one. That's a good one. I like that bet. I like that bet. I don't like his bet though. That's nice.

I go for best out of three though. Teams. Listen, I play with the Dolphins. I don't know what you're talking about. I play with the Dolphins. I always have played with the Dolphins. Obviously that's hometown. But Cam, I know you're going to see this, boy. You know I love you, boy. You hear me? You know how I feel about you. But I'm going to whoop your ass. I'm going to whoop your ass in Madden. You know, you know how I am when it comes to competing Hmm. So whenever you do I fly to Atlanta matter of fact cam I'm coming to fellowship I want you to hook I want you to hook the Xbox your PlayStation up at your cigar bar in Atlanta at

Fellowship because I'm a smoke. I'm gonna smoke you and I'm gonna smoke smokers of God at the same time Now I'll let you know I'm at. Joe, you ever been to Fellowship? Nah, I ain't been, I ain't never been. They got some good ass food. Yeah. Hey, what? Yeah, man. I'm about to go check them out.

Yeah. Hey, Joe, they got them wings, boy. They like that? Wings, lamb chops. Lamb lisp. They got like tacos, those brisket tacos. No, short ribs, tacos. Yeah. they got some

real good food yeah they got real good food I want to go check him out this upcoming week man. Oh you smoke the cigars Joe? Oh yeah the grits. Joe you smoke cigars? No. Yeah but I'm waiting for you to send me mine. Huh? I'm waiting for you to send me my cigars man you been telling me you gonna send me cigars for two months, man. I don't want your smoke, no anything. Okay, I got you. I got you. I got you.

Dak has a two and five postseason record and has never advanced past the divisional round despite being the number one seed in 2016. The franchise won its last championship in 1995. Dak says winning a championship is personal. I want to win a championship. The legacy, whatever comes after I finish playing, will take care of itself. I want to win a championship.

Being damn just for my legacy, or if that's the team, it's for my personal being and for my sanity. The legacy will take care of itself. Hey, them boys, hey, we're going to be ready this year, Uncle Ocho. We? You a Cowboys fan? Man, I done told you that already, man.

Stop acting like that, all right? You did, you did. Stop acting like that. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. Yeah, hey, hey, I like to hear Dak talk like that, man. It lets me know he's preparing the right way and he looking forward to the season, man. He looking to shut a lot of you guys up.

Yeah. Listen, listen, I don't, I don't never say nothing bad about the Cowboys. I try to support every play as much as possible until I just can't defend you anymore. Listen, um, I like Jerry. I like the move that Jerry made this season in adding another weapon, you know, alongside C.D. Lamb and bringing George Pickens in. Um, outside of that, it of that, the onus is all on Dak now. No, there are no excuses from off in the standpoint. You got the weaponry around you to get it done, especially to be able to compete in that NFC East. We ready, baby.

Hey, when you got your main guy talking like that, expect good things to come. Yeah. You hear me? Hold on, but he also need to take care of sticks too. Jerry need to go ahead and pay the man, stop waiting till the last goddamn minute, number 11. Yeah, yeah. Okay, you go ahead and pay Michael man.

You know Jerry, he like to wait last minute, man. He gonna get him take care. You know how he act, Ocho. Ain't no need for that. Ain't no need to keep dragging it out. We know you control, we know you run the show. We know you cut the checks. There's no need to drag it out.

It don't have to be a circus. You know, there be no theatrics every time, or fireworks. Just pay the man, let the man focus, and then do what he needs to do so he can prepare for the season. Yeah, it's the mental game he play. It's the mental game. He let it build up, you know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand. I understand. Yeah, but you know, he gonna take care of Michael, man, for the season game he play. It's the mental game. He let it build up, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand. I understand. Yeah, but you know, he gonna take care of Michael, man, for the season to jump off. Michael, just keep working hard, baby. Keep prepared, because we gotta make some noise this year, man. I ain't gonna lie, Ocho,

I almost jumped off the bandwagon. I was holding on. I almost jumped off. Why, what happened? The Cowboys, man. You frustrated, huh? Yeah. Yeah, man. Frustrated, huh? Yeah. Yeah, it be like that all the time, bro.

I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna tell you no lie. Ain't gonna tell you a lie. Listen, I'm, my bangles, man. Boy. We got y'all this year. We play the bingles this year. I would hope not, because this ain't what you want.

Huh? I would hope not, because this ain't what y'all want. We'll put a 55 on y'all, don't do that. You got it, here you go. Yeah, act like you know we got the best receiver in the game over there in Cincinnati, huh? Yeah, y'all got a bad one. Yeah, two of them, yeah.

Act like you know. I ain't worried about that. Cowboys play the bingles and shit, huh? I don't think so. Y'all beat y'all, the Bengals beat them last year, Joe. Yeah, I know that's last year. That's old news. Trying to move forward. I'm saying, if they had been probably yesterday, I don't really remember it. So let's move forward now. Oh, you remember it.

You remember that ass cutting y'all to it. Y'all, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling

you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm telling yesterday, I don't really remember it. So let's move on now. Oh, you remember that ass cutting y'all to it. Yo, y'all gotta do something, man. Y'all gotta do something about this. Y'all looking real bad, Joe. We getting together.

You see, you're our quarterback. You hear how he talking? He gonna shit some of y'all up, man. Y'all talking about the NFC, all this thing. Yeah. All right. Wait, you do talk to- So what y'all love man. Y'all talking about the NFC all this thing. Yeah. All right Wait, you do Hey Joe, you do know who in your division, right? I do man. I know I know okay I'm just checking you know, you got a super bowl chance, right? I know I know You do understand how how much the commanders have improved right? I understand that old Joe. Okay. Okay

I'm but you gotta take it one year at a time and just because you done that last year They don't mean he's gonna carry over you're gonna do the exact same thing the next year Oh, I can it's been carried over y'all y'all been sucking off for the last 30 years Come on, you gotta chill now. Come on now. Come on now Hey, and uh, he was looking at jaya alexander, oh Joe What? So they gonna have Keyon on one side, Jai Alexander, and then Cooper DeGene in the slot? And guess what?

There been some rumblings that Washington's trying to get TJ White from Steelers. What? Oh my God. I mean, the Eagles won him, but Washington, Washington and the Eagles. Hey man, hey Howie, man I salute you man. Jeffery, man I salute you man. That's ownership. That'd be crazy.

Yeah, why would they give him up though? Who? He won't, I mean, TJ won't, he won't that, what you call him, he won't that Miles Garrett. He won't that type money. He won't that Jamar Chase. Why the stealer won't pay him? Man, the stealer's cheap, man.

They not cheap, but you know, they don't. How old is TJ? After like a couple of contracts, they ain't really trying to play nobody but the quarterback. How old is TJ now though, huh? TJ about 31? Yeah.

But the man, he gave you 11 and a half slacks. You know how to bend his work? I do. I absolutely know how to. Mm, mm, mm. Huh? He's 30, he'll be 31 this year. I hope he don't go to Washington.

I bet you do. Well, hey, the Eagles are trying to get him too. Yeah, he don't need to go to neither one of them. Hey, if he go to the Eagles, that's not fair, man. It's over. that's not fair, man. It's over. That's not fair. Couldn't nobody do nothing with that front fold last year. Now you add TJ Watt over there and Philly like, come on man.

With Carter collapsing the pocket inside and him on the edge. Stop playing. No, yeah, that'd be, ooh. Now I can see him over in Washington now, especially right before they haven't had to pay Jayden Danes yet, they got the money to do so. They need to take care of Terry McLaurin first.

Then you can think about, brother, TJ what? Man, TJ, man, they need to go and pay that man their money. Go on and give him $80 million to sign. Yeah, I don't know why you even wanna lose a guy like that. Cause they, Ocho, if you really think about it, they ain't really paying nobody but DK. Who else they paying? What, Cam? The quarterback, your quarterback can't make it but 10 million, make up to 20 million.

He can make up to 20 million. Ain't nobody really making no money but him. That's why it don't make no sense to me. Oh no. I mean that was a good, I mean, he making 28 million, he probably like 10th or 11th on highest paid. And he wanted, he wanted the two or three best outside linebackers when you talk about him and Micah.

Yeah, and Miles, yeah. What Miles got, 40? What happens, see, I look at this. Now they got, they got, they got O.L.B., they got Rush Inns. It used to be either you were in or you were an outside backer, Ocho. Now they got Rush Inns, they got rush in right it used to be either you were in or you were an outside backer Now they got rushing they got so now hold on now, you know

Depending on the definitive definition of your position. It does change the money know that right? Yeah, okay. All these says I got a defensive player of the year I've led the league in sacks numerous times sir break me off. That's it That's the evil is that if you don't want to somebody else will made for this mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify.

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available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho, a man dropped his $200,000 watch in the ocean. Check this out, Ocho. Joe. POV, you dropped a $200,000 watch in the ocean. What color was green? It has a green strap and it's like titanium, like stainless steel kind of. $200,000 watch in the ocean It has a green strap and it's like titanium like stainless steel kind of Richard Mill pretty light. It's pretty light and he has a green rubber band Oh Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Hey, I think that if it was green, that was probably Richard Milly 1102. About 195, about 200,000. The first thing I was going to say, he had to break that man off, man.

Lee 5, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. What? Oh, 10%, you gotta give him 10% father's fee. I didn't even get off his wrist anyway. Man, water, man. I mean, we had a guy, he was out there on jet skis,

lost his Superbowl rig. Why you wanna jet? Okay. The same reason why you wear the $200,000 watch with me. Yeah, that's the stunt. See? All right, Ocho, it's time for our final segment. Ocho and Joe, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A.

But I... What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?

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What? What? What? What? What? to do Ocho bitch in 300 plus pounds. Well, you know what? That's, you know what? Okay, back. Appreciate that. But let Beetlejuice balance your checkbook then. And let me know why that turns out. John and Kira will say, what's up fucking Ocho Joe? It's Elliot. Love this show. Ocho, you ain't even stronger than me.

And I'm only 140, or 185. And those 140 for nine, you couldn't get a rep, laugh my, you know what off, up, is gonna smoke you on the bench. I am, and Ocho, I don't believe you, bruh. That's fine. You know what, Ocho, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna make it easy.

Nah, don't make it easy, keep it how it is. No, no, no, I won't dinner at a restaurant of my choosing for up to 10 people, and then I'll send you to poppies I want dinner at a restaurant of my choosing for up to 10 people. And then I'll send you to Poppy's for up to 10 people. Poppy what? The steakhouse. I eat free there, that don't count? Nah.

Well, wherever you want to eat at in Miami. Okay, okay, back. You got right back. Hey, hey, hey, why y'all speaking restaurant? Oh, don't forget now. Yeah, you still owe me. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. What I owe you, Joe? Yeah, dinner, we, why y'all speaking restaurant? Oh, don't forget now. Yeah, you still owe me. Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho. What owe you, Joe?

Yeah, dinner. We had better than dinner. You lost. What up, man? What we bet on, Joe? And here he goes. Hey, there you go. I'm sorry.

Joe, you need to chill. Joe, you need to chill, Joe. You need to chill with that. Oh, he go now. I need to chill. Hey, Joe, he hit it with your line, Joe. You see how he act, don't you? Hey, oh, Joe, Joe need to chill, man, I need to chill. Hey, Joey, it's with your wife, Joey. You see how he act, old Joe? Hey, old Joe, Joe need to chill, man.

Oh, man, look out. Man, what? See? Who you bad or who? What be bad on Joe? Man, we better. Damn, I'm out of the thing. But we bad.

You lost, and you lost the dinner, man. So we talk about restaurants and all that. Yeah, you down too. When I come to Atlanta, where you wanna go? You wanna go to Chopps? What you wanna go? Yeah, that's what we say, we go to Chopps. Okay, we go to Chopps, done.

Done. Done. What the hell is Chopps? Wait, look, if I don't remind y'all every time we get on here, boy, I ain't gonna, y'all gonna forget. I be forgetting for real, Joe. I'm old now, man.

You ain't crazy, you just play crazy. I know that for real, Joe. I'm old now, man. You ain't crazy. You just play crazy. I know this thing about you, boy. I don't... Yeah. Great time, Saul. Say what's good, Unkin, Ocho? Joe Beth night time show for sure.

Keep up the great work. Y'all got me and my friends laughing. Give it to Harper, say, Ocho, I'll school you on the pool table. Put something on it. Pool table? I know y'all know that. Oh, Joe. Hold on. Pool table? I'm at Ferreyes. I'm in the pool table, put something on it. Ooh, I know y'all. Pool table? Yeah. Oh, Joe. Hold on.

Pool table? I'm at Ferreira's. I'm the magician. Oh, man. I'll be Fats. I'll be Moscone. I'll be Mr. Rat. Man, listen, man.

I'll be the Black Widow. I'll be Vivian Rill, Vivian O'Reil. I'll be, uh-huh, come on, Alison Fisher. I'll be in a ball. What you talkin' about, man? You startin' to act like Ocho without. I'm trying to be Ocho. Listen, he named, listen.

The best of the house of Harvard, there. Listen, they, hey, I played pool for real, Joe. Like, I played at the amateur level. They called me the Black Widow. I don't know what the hell, I don't know what the fuck they call me about. Nah, they just called you Black. You heard me? I played pool at the professional level, Joe. That's all I had to do. I couldn't know what the hell I don't know. No, they just call you black. You heard me. I played pool at the professional level.

Joe, that's all I had to do. I couldn't do nothing. You know, Joe, where I'm from, out here in the city, all I could do was play sports. When there wasn't no football season, that's what we did. We went swimming, we played ping pong, we played pool. And we went bowling. Oh, let me ask you a question.

What we play, Joe, what we playing? Are we playing eight ball, we playing nine ball we well Joe what we play if we play eight ball We play a nine ball what we play man. We play a ball. We play a bar We play like you normally play look now. I think that them two games I think we us three can battle out ping pong and pool. I don't think y'all got a chance in hell to beat me I'm just gonna keep it 100 I got a pool table to crib I'm just gonna keep it 100. I'm gonna keep it 100.

I got a pool table in the crib. Okay, I got one too. I mean, I got a ping pong table in the pool table here. So what you put in? Guess what? And the pool table cover, if I flip it up, it's a ping pong table. So whatever you wanna do, Joe, make a lot of yourself.

Okay. All right, hey, hey. Now you got the elementary table. I ain't playing on that elementary table. I got the professional table. Nine foot, you got a nine foot? We playing that big, nine foot. Yeah, I got the professional table.

We ain't playing no six foot, no seven foot table. Don't worry about that. The only foot, I'm gonna put foot senior, both of y'all. That's the only foot. That's the only foot, I'm gonna put a foot senior. Both of y'all. That's the only foot. That's the only foot. Good thing. David Jance and Ocho, you don't want this man work in South Beach when 26 drops.

Damn, well, if you're on South Beach, boy, holler at your boy, bro. I'd be there, I'd be there. Hey, send me your address. I'd come to your house. There's one thing about it. If you know me, Chad, I don't know if you follow me throughout my life and career.

You know, I show all the people house to play. I don't play when it come to games, don't challenge me. That's why I understand why Cam even think he can beat me. And I show the people houses. Like that's what I do. I'm on that. Cam ain't on that. What's up, baby?

The Dab Smith said, be saying, can you get done when you need to get it done, when you absolutely have to have it? The MVP showed up down the stretch and he got it done. Okay. Seeing six. Okay. You think okay.

See you six. Okay. See you seven Joe or Andy. Man, listen, Andy been fighting, but don't you going to switch up on me? Joe, you gonna switch up on me? Right. Switched up on you. I've been on okay. See okay see the whole time okay I'm just making sure all right I think it but but yeah I'm gonna say six oh I'm gonna say six so they go with the next three next to JJ JJ Carver said bailed out by the refs.

I just don't like all these free throws. I don't like 71 free throws. That's too much, Joe. It is, there's a lot of free throws. They ain't selling no man. Like I said, they were three for 17 from the three. They shot 17 threes, man. Guys know the taste. Teams tripling that.

Right. Oh yeah, for sure. I think, you know, OKC had the onus tonight, meaning that, you know, they wasn't gonna settle for too many jump shots. They was gonna put the onus on the ref that, you know, they wasn't gonna settle for too many jump shots. They was gonna put the onus on the refs. They was gonna attack the basket. And tonight they did that, man.

The refs, you know, gave them a good whistle. Marco Polo TV said, SGA MVP, J.Wild a thrill, Caruso is heaven, OKC in seven. Dewayne Lockhart said, Thunder had three terrible shootings, turnover game and a tie. If they clean it up,

turnovers and make at least 30% of the threes, OKC takes game five and six easy. I don't know about that. Pamadu Diba said, Isojo, two questions. Do you remember the last time you referred to as Joe Jesus? Are you and Ocho still linking up in the Hamptons for the pickleball game?

Listen, the last time I referred to as Joe Jesus, I was playing in Brooklyn. Kevin Garnett gave me that name, man. I had to, hey look, I had to pull KG to the side, say look, we're gonna have to chill out on this Joe Jesus thing. This thing ain't getting out of hand. People walking around calling you Jesus, that's a little different, you know what I mean? to the side say look we're gonna have to chill out on this Joe Jesus thing. This thing ain't getting out of hand.

People walking around calling you Jesus. That's a little different. You know what I mean? We gotta chill out on something. This KG probably was one of the best in giving out nicknames. Ocho, I want you to stay tuned with me on that Hampton's trip now. I'm still working. Well, I'm ready. I'm working the logistics out.

I need to know if you can get some good lateral movement though, Ocho. Okay. Okay. Y'all been dis-straightening me all night tonight, man. First cam. I ain't saying you didn't have it. I just mean, I ain't never seen you play pickleball. That's all I'm saying.

No, I have the best lateral movement and feet in any sport ever. Across the South? No, in the world, still to this day. Yes, and I'm saying that with straight confidence. Okay, all right. I'm ready, hey, when is this? When is this? It's supposed to be the end of July.

Okay. Baby! We going to the handfuls with the rich people. Wow, cheese bro. So two questions for Joe Johnson. How was the chemistry on the Hawks teams when you played and how tough were the seven game series versus the Celtics in 2008? The chemistry on the Hawks team is always great, bro. We's like brothers, man. We had a great vibe, not just on the court, but off the court as well. We hung out.

I mean, we did everything together. I think how tough it was playing against them Celtics, it was very tough, because at the time, they was the best defensive team in the NBA. Yep. They were the best defensive team in the NBA. So, you know, we talk about Shay and how they should double him.

Man, I would come across half court, Arka Ocho. KG was doubling me. He was coming out for his man. I'm talking about I wasn't even a threat. One dribble across half court, they was doubling me. Yeah, go look it up. Go watch him. Kevin said, would KD or Yonas be a better fit for the Spurs?

KD. KD. KD. Because you got a great point guard and Dan Fox who's going to do a lot of the ball handling and stripping. Yep. And if you got a guy like KD next to him, KD going to have so many wide open jump shots because Fox is going to put a lot of pressure on that.

Cause he break you down. Man what? Man they, hey, and Yannis needs the ball. Yeah. And you got De'Aaron Fox. KD you're really, KD can get you 30 with 15 to 17 shots. Yeah. Yeah. Really a question.

Pat Dove said with old school trends coming back, which haircut from your younger days would you guys bring back? I wanna get, I wanna get, I wanna get a Gary Curl. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it.

I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it.

I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it.

I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do a jerry curl, Joe. You do a jerry curl, I have a jerry curl. I ain't playing, I'd be the first one to do it. Hey man, everybody had jerry curls, they done gone bald now, I don't know how you kept your hair, Joe. Hey look, God took care of me, took his time on me, don't worry about it. Hey listen, you better whip the turkey. Let me find out you whip the turkey.

Hey, hey, I might bring the flattop back, I don't know man, I don't know, man. I don't know right now what go my little light throw I got. Hey, hey, hey, can I go to Turkey? Can they fill my beard in so it don't grow impachi? Where they gonna get the hair from? Because you know the facial hair is different than the hair on your head. I have no idea.

I just know everybody goes to Turkey to fix whatever hair situation they have. I just want to know if they can get a beard. Well, let them put some pubic hair on you. Hahaha. My beard! Joe! That bad guy has a pubic hair for a beard. But Joe, let it go, Joe. It ain't worth it, brother. I'm just thinking about it because I know the women, not that the women, it matters what the women want and just what mine want, but I want my beard like James Hardwick and growing full.

That ain't for everybody. It ain't going to. Yours ain't going to grow like that. No. That shit, yours going to be splotchy. It be a little patchy. A little patchy. I thought the people in Turkey can fix that situation.

That's what I thought. Ocho, where they going to get the hair from? That's, I mean, I don't know. I don't- They gotta take your hair, Ocho, so what you want a blonde, a blonde beard? Nah, nah, I just, I just, I don't know, unc. You ain't got no hair.

Hold up, hold up. Y'all know, y'all know they got them little man units you can put on your head. Yeah. So you can get you a little man. They got, they got, they got beard man units, Ocho. I get one of like a lace wig, like a lace, a lace. Yeah.

Okay, okay. We gonna talk about you, but you can get your one. Yeah, you know, they talk about Jesus. So, you know, I ain't really tripping about that. They sure did. They sure did. And I'm gonna talk about you. I wasn't there to talk about him.

So I got you. Mike Carley said we need Nightcap Game Night Live. You know what, that might be something we do next year. We all get together and watch the game live and stream that live. Oh man, that'll be fire. That'll be fire, hey, hey, that'll be fire. I like that.

But we need to get the feed like we had in the bubble when I watched the game. You have to get the live feed so you can actually, so it's not delayed because it'd be delayed. It's delayed if you don't have that live feed. We can do that. There ain't be no problem. Yeah. I like that. That concludes this episode of Nightcap.

The series is tied 2-2. OKC go on the road, do what they needed to do, get at least one game to go back for game five at OKC tied 2-2. Thanks to a 111-104 victory. Shay 35 points, Jaylin Williams had 27. Shay had eight points in the final four minutes on free throws as they pull away in the end and win 111 to 104. Series is tied.

Going back to OKC Sunday. Game five is Sunday night. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. My partner and co-host, Liberty City's own bingo ringer fame honoree, the pro bowler, Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson and the third member of the team, Arkansas native University of Arkansas

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