Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho CALL OUT Jets Owners for the FAILURES at QB + Anthony Davis INJURED with ACHILLES TENDONITIS

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Joe Iso Johnson react to Ocho’s new idea of going hunting on stream with Unc! The Jets owner Woody Johnson should be getting some of the blame for the Jets woes, and Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billups will not be paid while they are on leave during this gambling investigation and much more! 0:00 - Jets Owner Woody Johnson15:16 - Michael Jordan on Load management21:59 - Terry Rozier & Chauncey Billups will not be paid while on leave34:00 - Anthony Davis has achilles tendonitis42:54 - Play or Fade with PrizePicks46:05 - Q & Ayyyyyeeee (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He gave it by Justin Fields. Johnson is hard when you have a quarterback with a rating that we got. If we could just complete a pass, it would look good. According to former judge quarterback Jordan Travis, these aren't the only troubling comments Johnson has made to one of the team's quarterbacks. Despite dealing with serious leg injury, Travis remembers Johnson asking him, are you ever going to get healthy?

Travis, there were things that were said to me, not obviously to that point because I never got on the field of play about my leg. Just slick comments. I don't know if he was trying to be slick about it or you know how some older men just say whatever comes to their mind. And that kind of made me feel a certain type of way. Now how you feel it?

Never that. There was always comments like that. It's easy to point a finger at Justin Fields or Aaron Glenn for the Jets troubles. But Robert Salas seems to be the coached defense really well for the 49ers. Aaron Rogers looked pretty good at Pittsburgh. Sam Donald, too.

Ocho, Joe. How much blame? should we place on ownership led by Woody Johnson for the long, long history of Jets failure? I mean, listen, similar to the quarterback situation with the Chicago Bears for the long, long history of failures at that position as well, I mean, management is to blame as well for the long, long failures for the quarterback position with the Jets.

Most of the time, the identity for the Jets has always been their defense. That has always been the better part of the successful part of their team. obviously not this year and obviously offense not this year as ill but i thought i really thought this was when justin field's year yeah i thought it would have been his year he had nothing to worry about he had nobody eyeing over his shoulder it was his team his team to win and his team to lose uh they're one and seven obviously beating my bangles uh but it is what it is but i think at some point they will turn it around i think he can be the future for the new york jets is he going to get that opportunity to be after woody johnson

and came out and said some of the things he said publicly that most owners would say to themselves or people upstairs you don't yeah yeah you never say anything like that publicly but it seemed like since Jerry Jones said what he need to say other owners are now having the

the onus and the with all to say you know what forget it I'm just going to say how I'm feeling and let them know and it has to it has to hurt to know that your owner feels that way and I still got to go out there and play for him What did you think of Joe?

Hey, look, I kind of, I agree kind of with Justin Fields. I mean, you got other guys who can play for their franchise, man, quarterbacks, and they won off and, you know, play for other organizations. And they've been playing pretty exceeding. So therefore, yeah, you got to start up top with the organization and how things have been ran because for whatever reason, they hadn't been getting, you know, great outcomes. Obviously, Justin Fields played great this past week.

But, man, you hope he can beat. build confidence from that and try to, you know, continue to, you know, play at an elite level. They got to improve the roster overall, Lojo. I mean. Yeah. But that's hard, huh? You know how much time that takes? Well, hey.

They've had 30 years. Would they give Aaron Glenn the time to improve the roster? I think because AG played there, I think he'll probably have a little long. I think he'll have a little longer. Right. Leeway than most. I don't want to say what we would normally say along the liege because everybody's saying we just try to be politically correct.

I think he'll have a longer opportunity to stay than probably most because of his history with the organization and how well he's played for the organization and what he knows him personally. So yes, I do think he'll have a, but look, I don't care who you are. If your quarterback doesn't play well, it's hard for you to win in this league. it's hard very but hey um hey jo situations matter the situations on where you play it does it does surrounding you is very very important joe yeah i can't think of it in basketball terms but maybe unc and joe you could you could probably probably relate to it who would

be daniel jones on the new york giants in basketball terms and then all of us he's daniel joan that player actually leaving said team and going to where else and succeeding the way daniel jones is succeeding in Indianapolis. Who would that be in basketball terms? Who would there be the Dania Jones

balling? I'm talking about killing it. Yeah, I'm trying to think. Let me see. The only thing is that Brunson didn't, I mean, he left the Mavericks

and went to New York and he balling in New York. But that's his own team. Okay. But that was, yeah. He was back, you know what I mean? Ain't nobody, ain't nobody who overshyed Luca.

Not now. Yeah, he was, yeah, he was, backing up Luca, but he went off and, you know, obviously, you know what he's doing in New York right now. But, uh, I'm trying to think. Who? Because I mean, they let Daniel Jones go. They just, they, they, they let him walk on about that, didn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he ended up with, he went to, uh, wasn't he, didn't he go to Minnesota for a year? What did he, he was the backup? He was the backup in Minnesota. Yeah. Went to Minnesota. They went on down to Indy.

Basketball, I don't know, man. No, but he played. He was good in Chicago. Who was that? Jimmy Butler. Yeah, Jimmy was good in Chicago. Jimmy's been good everywhere he went on. Chicago, Philly.

He's always been consistent. I mean, what he does well. See, the thing is that we thought, we thought we thought if you go back and look at brunson when luca was out he showed you what he can do if he had his own team yeah yeah go back and look at when lucca missed that time and look at what brunson was doing so now he got his own team he's going to be the primary ball handler he's going to be the primary shot taker i don't think anybody surprised by this now maybe maybe the guy averaged 26 27 points a game and as many 30 point games he's had but i thought he would be really well

Now, did I think he'd be an all-N-B-A selection? I wouldn't go that far, but I thought he could make the all-star team. I thought he could make an all-star team. Because the guy that's playing that well in spurts when he has the ball in his hand, and they say, okay, and kids like, okay, we need you to do more of a role and not be so, boom, we saw that. But look, yeah, James Hardin, we saw what he was. Remember, he was six men of the year?

Where he was. I'm sure if people thought he could be good but not averaging 36 point a night good not changing the game good with that step back no no who else was like that now with Shay just didn't get a chance

to play if Shade got a chance to play and plus look he was not going to do that with the clear not with Kauai you had just gave you had just think about what you got with Kauai Kauai was going to be the main ball handler. Shea's in a situation.

Shade knows he can get as many shots as he won't, and he ain't stepping on nobody's toes. Yeah. The clippers, they weren't going to wait for his development. No, no. They couldn't because Kauai, you bring in Kauai, and Kauai wants to win now. And he basically said,

if you don't get me, Paul George, I'm going with the Lakers. Can you imagine Kauai, LeBron, and A.D, and then you playing in the basement with that? No, they had to. They had to do it, Ocho. I mean, hold on, hold on. I have a question, Joe, Joe went on. If the clippers knew what they knew now about saying how he would, they would never trade it. They would never trade. Yeah. So how do you not see, how do you not see that? Because, because he wasn't, how do you not see that? He was a rookie,

and no rookie, because you got to realize he wasn't the first pick in the draft. He wasn't AD. He wasn't Zion that you're running your offense through. so now he's in a situation he's the office so you there's no possible way just like james hardin now people thought james could be good because he was a great iso player when the sick when they when kd and russ went to the bench james hard right was sensational but sensational is averaging 16 points a game he averaged 36 he had games where he went like 30 40 games he's average getting 30 a night 60 point triple doubles 50 point triple doubles but he knows it's a lot easy to play ohcho if you're the number one and you know you're going to get 12 13 14 targets

a game right but I understand that right but the basketball heads that are in the clippers organization those that have been watching the game scouts and GMs and understanding you have an eye for talent there's a certain thing that we can see it's called the it factor it's called the eye test even if it's not his team. You can tell when the player is going to be special. You can look at them, their game, their skill set, what they can and what they can do. And when you look at Shea's game on both ends of the court,

that's somebody that you say, this MF is special. Hey, Ocho. I'm not letting him go. I think the Clippers knew he was special. I seen Doc Rivers. Yeah, he's coaching the clip. He said that was the hardest thing to put in the trade was to add Shea into that trade

because he knew that Shea was going to be pretty good. Now, I don't know if he thought he was going to be MVP good. But he knew he was going to be good. And then on top of that, Uncle Ocho, you never know. Like, for Shea, maybe that was great for his career because it probably put a little fire in him. He's going to show you. You know what I mean? And be like, all right, they got rid of me.

I'm going to show him. You know what I mean? And now he's playing at a level to where I don't think nobody's seen this, bro. He's a bucket. He's 30 points every night, give or take. I don't care. I don't care. What happened?

He's going to have 30. And plus, Ocho. The biggest free agent available was Kauai. Kauai said if you don't get me Paul George, I'm going to sign with the Lakers. Do you really want LeBron James, Kauai Leonard, and AD in the building that you play in? Do you really want that to happen?

Was that even possible? Yes, it was possible. Oh, yeah. Was that realistic? He was going home. He was going, Kauai was going back to L.A. I don't know what team yet, but he was going back to L.A.

for sure. Okay. That's crazy how players, especially NBA players, can control where they want to go. They can pick and choose where they want to go. If they say, I want to trade, I don't want to be here more. The team had no choice but the move on. Superstars. Well, you have to because if a guy only has one year left on his deal, Ocho, and he's telling you, you know, he ain't signing back in so many words, then you got to, you got to trade them to get something back. You know what doomed okay C was Kevin Durant walked out the door and didn't get nothing for it. Yeah. Imagine if you could have traded him before.

See, he walked out the door and you didn't get anything. Nothing. KD. at his prime walks out of your door and you don't get anything for him. The same thing. The clippers could have tried to play. I mean, he's got the clippers. The hornet, not the hornets.

The pelicans could have tried to play hardball. But AT contract was coming up. Do you really want Anthony Davis to walk out of there and you don't get nothing for him? And you're the pelicans. Okay, okay. Ain't nobody coming to New Orleans. I'm sorry.

It's a great city. I mean, the jazz and the food is amazing. But you're not getting superstars to come down to New Orleans. You're just not. So you have to, you don't have a choice. Right. So what do I do, what do I do, O'Chel? And like I said, yes, I think Doc really.

realize that Shade was going to be good. But I don't know if Doc thought he'd be this good. Coach Belichick, the reason why they kept Tom Brady, they kept four quarterbacks that year, Coach Belichick said with a little work, he thought he could be good. You thought he's going to be seven Super Bowls good, 15 four goals?

You thought he was going to be the all-time leader and passes, touchdowns, wins, Super Bowl wins, Super Bowl MVP. You thought he's going to be that good. Because if you did, you would have took him in the first round. You wouldn't have him in the sixth round. And you guess what, you'd have started them from day one. So you didn't know.

You thought it could be good. Everybody's like, oh, yeah, we knew Shedd, bro, I was my draft pick. Me making the team was a feat in and of itself, let alone being able to play 14 years and having the accomplishments. Everybody gets to say that after the fact, Ocho. Yeah, I knew that boy was going to make it. Oh, I knew. Oh, I saw him his high school.

I told such a son and that boy going to make it. Right. Hey, it's a lot that has to transpire and a lot has to happen along that journey, man. You know what I mean? The things that mold us and to becoming professional athletes, the things that we go through, man, it's ultimately it determines pretty much your longevity in the game or how you, you know, approach the game. So when you look at Shea, it's just like, when I look at Shea, I'm like,

can you imagine him in L.A. in that new arena they got over there? And think about it. That was another reason. They're getting better to build a new arena. What do you need to go into a new arena, Joe? Superstars. Yes, sir. People would tell him, oh, Kauai ain't better than SGA.

Maybe not now. If you think SGA in his first or second year was better than Kauai, y'all a damn fool. Y'all let your damn mind. That man was a two-time defensive player of the year and a two-time finals MVP. The man is one of the 75th, 75 greatest players of all time. what do you mean okay if you want to say he's not better than she now i'm not been to fight you

as a matter of fact i'm put my hand behind the chair i ain't i ain't you know what i'm saying joe i ain't go fight him but come on now y'all make it seem like kawai was above him and he was far from he's still not is the injury prone yes has injury robbed him of some of his best years yes but to say that he was sGA was better at that time it's just not true Because I remember before Jaja Pachit shot, stuck his foot up under Kauai, they had to go to state down by like 18. Yeah, yeah.

Kauai was a really, Kauai was a great player. There's a reason why he's a two-time champion. He's a two-time defensive player of the year. He can play both ends of the court, and he can play it well. But injuries have robbed him of some of his best years. Hey, I'll tell us quite. I'm quite like six, seven.

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Michael Jordan had his thoughts on Lodge Management in today's game. He called out players sitting out games to rest, saying that he would never miss a game if he could avoid it because of his duty to the fans. It shouldn't be needed, first and foremost. I never wanted to miss a game because it was an opportunity to play. prove it was something that I felt like you know the fans were that like they're watching me play and I want to impress the guys up top who obviously worked their ass off to get a ticket and or get money to buy a ticket Jordan also referenced his iconic blue game against the Utah Jazz in

1997 NBA finals where he pushed through illness in a pivotal game five I was going to find a way to get out there even if I was a decoy once I got out there pushing yourself you never know what happens, right? Absolutely. Yeah, I agree with. Hey, look, I agree with him too. Man, I think that's why we, that's why we love them so much, man. Just to see him sit there and kind of, you know, let people know that low,

load management wasn't cool back there. No, hell not. They weren't doing that, man. I mean, even in the DVDs I used to watch with the come fly with me's and all that, he'll tell you like his thing was showing up for the fans for the guy who may who may only get to see him play one time that's all the money he could save up he was going to show up and show out so that's my goal bro uh man i just i enjoy seeing him break the game down i know people thought it was going to probably be a much live setting yeah yeah

they thought he'll be actually talking about current players but he's talking right right from his standpoint of his mindset of what he's thinking he ain't going to be actually talking about a player in particular. Like Barclay and Shaq and Ken and them, they actually break down the game. Perkins, these other guys, they break down the game. That's not what he's doing.

He's looking at it from a champion's mindset, the mindset that you have to have. And he said, I just couldn't do it. I couldn't miss no time. I couldn't miss a game because somebody paid a boatload of money to watch me. He said, even the people that were booing me,

I wanted them to see why you booing me? Right. Because I'm cutting your team, you know what. Right. Right. Oh, Joe, you're going to football. We could never, first of all, I don't know how you guys thought Joe, but in football, we already know NFL not for long.

You sit out of the game and you might not, hey, you miss a game, somebody comes in and you might not get that job back. Right. Hey. Hey. You get Tom Brady. Tom, you see what Tom Brady did? He got in and 23 years later.

yeah yeah NFL you can't you can't you can't do that I mean I I yeah I hated missing the game we had we'd have the thing play of me my 96 we had we had the division sold up we had home field throughout and Mike says 84 I'm thinking about you know you've been dealing with some ankle injuries because at that time what you I had had nerves in my ankle had them frozen dead and so I wouldn't feel the pain if I twist my ankle or something like that so he's like You've been dealing with stuff 84. You know, I just want you to sit out. Selfishly, I wanted to play, Ocho.

Man, I'm trying to get 1100 yards. I'm trying to get another touchdown. But, you know, I saw the bigger pitcher. But in a rich, no, no, no, no, no. But you only got to understand, Ocho. We only play in 16. 16 games in the NFL is like one game in the NFL is like five in the NBA. Yeah.

Yeah. Hey, look, that fire, that fire, that fire really don't die, though. Like, if you're a competitor, you're a competitor. Always. And think about it, you heard MJ say, man, if I could take a magic piece right now. You see what I'm saying?

Like, he still love to compete. He's probably still wish he could get out there and play. You know what I mean? But, I mean, like he said, he ain't willing to risk popping his Achilles to get out there. Duh. He's competing just on the golf course and cards. He's still competing.

Don't let it fool you that. You can't. Listen, a competitor. it is always going to find a way to compete it might not be it his profession or as respective craft that he used to do but you're going to find it through other avenues when it comes to life and the funny thing also about the low management thing and michael jordan saying some of the things he said you have to think about the game that they played back then mentally where they were back then it's completely different than the game is now not only the game but the players

and the way they think everything's a bit a little bit different they want to rest they want to take time off. They don't have the same mentality the players had back there. Back then, you know, excuse me. Less distraction. It's just different all the way around. And with the money where it is, Joe, if I can set out a couple of games and that's going to give me a couple extra years, I mean, look at it now.

I mean, by the time Shea is done, Shea and Jason Tatum and Luca, they're going to be that made a billion dollars in the NBA. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. A bill. Well, I for show. Hey, look, I'll for show know when we're going to get Oh, man, Wimby next contract might be a billion.

If he could stay, the thing, look, his height is always like, because there ain't nothing he can't do, man. That joke, he can handle the ball. He's sham guarding people. He's going behind the back, any out here, he's pulling up from 28. Obviously, he can put it on the forefitt. I pretty fed the rim. He barely, he barely jumping and ducking on people here.

Man, listen. Ojo, the eyes that big is not supposed to be moving like that. Yeah, now, yeah, yeah. He, hold on. To be that tall, Joe, he's twitchy as hell. Yeah. He twitchy. I'm talking about like Kevin Durant twitchy.

He's five inches taller than KD. Hey, come on out here to the top of the key. Let me show you something real quick. Hey, listen, so now a big guy, when we, I can't even say a big guy his size because ain't many people his size, but a big guy who has to guard him, man, he has no chance. I'm watching them how they play now. He's gotten stronger. His mentality is different.

He's going at his man. and at his man, bro. He, hey, San Antonio, like five and old. Oh, yeah, got a nice squad. They got Dylan Harper coming off the bench. They got Castle, they got Vassel. They got a nice squad.

Fox ain't even play yet. What we do. Now, you know, we like to talk, you know, in basketball, you know, you can't really lose your spot off of injury. Yeah, you can. Fox ain't play yet. But not him because he got a max deal, Joe. That's what I'm saying.

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Rozier's salary, which is about $26.6 million this season, paid in installments will be held in escrow. If Rozier is cleared and allowed to return the NBA, which placed him on leave hours after his October 23rd arrest, he will receive the held payments in full. Excuse me. Chonsie Billups will also not be paid while on leave. Billups' salaries $7 million this season and won't be held in escrow.

He'll just lose it until the out of money. outcome of the FBI case. Joe, when the story broke, what were your initial thoughts? Man, it was hard for me to believe with, you know, with Chonzie because I know him to a degree. You know, I know same people, same circle, you know, me and T. Lou, good friends when T. Liu played here in Atlanta with me, he was a point guard here in Atlanta. When I first got here, Ocho, for like three years, my men, we used to hang out. And to see all this come out, I'm like, you know, it's just, it's unfortunate, bro.

But if it's true, yeah, I agree with the harsh penalties, man. There's nowhere in the game, whether it's Rozier or whether it's Billups, you know, if you're betting on the games, bro, if you're doing the stuff they say you're doing or cheating people, cheating your partners in them out of their money, yeah, man. I mean, I don't know what's the maximum fine you can get or what's going to happen. If you're doing it, yeah, it ain't a place. If you have to find, you go to jail. Define, that's the list of your words.

Yeah, well, hey, unfortunately, if you do, if you, if you're doing what they say you're doing, then you probably deserve a little jail time. I'm like, man. It's, it's hard, though. I hate it, man. I just, I just hate it. I hate it. Yeah.

Because I think the thing is, look, I mean, I, I just in good conscience, I can't. like people work hard for that money yeah and to cheat somebody out of their money joe i ain't i ain't never i ain't never been like that guys i couldn't i couldn't me neither bro i couldn't it's tough that's you know it's it's it's hard watching it unfold because i'm like you're saying you got x-ray you you got these rigs poker games x-ray tables x-ray glasses face down on joe so now i can see what you got so i'm betting they say guys betting a hundred blinds and the gutty. So you know, you know what's coming.

So that's why you bet, and dude thinking, he got, somebody thinking they gotta win their hand. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, hey, I got a pair of kings. I got two rockets up under here. Oh, man, the whole time. A, you know, and it's bigger, it's really bigger than what people understand it, right? When you end with them people like that,

when you end with them people, and it gets to that point, where you're the one bringing in the clients to use illegal stuff to get them, where you end over your head, man. You really ain't got no choice at that point. No. Honestly.

So the only way out is for coming to an end like this. This is the best thing to happen, honestly. That's why I don't really talk about. Once you in over your head like that. I don't talk. That's why you got to be careful talking with you. And they got you got to be careful who you talk to. You type, you have an innocent conversation,

but they're getting all the information that they need. Man, Carson, man, Carson. I don't even think cars are going to play this week. Carson ain't, man, ain't practice yet. You just have an innocent conversation. Man, man, shh. Man, I don't, man, I don't face smooth. Man, smooth ankle this morning.

And that thing was big, man, big as a ball. Man. That's why, hey, I don't play around like that. I had a dude asked me, say, man, look here, man. I want to get this car. I'll give you the cash. You go pay for a put in your name. She...

When he gets squeezed, what are you going to do? Right. You know what he going to do. No, I'm good, cool. Yeah. But look, I ain't no gambling like that. Like, I like the friendly competition gambling, but, man, when it get to the point to where you, you having the old people are all... No.

No. And I read the paper. They said, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, had a lean on his house. how you're going to lean on your house and they say at this point in time you had made $169 million in NBA salary but you got to lean on your property

you can't lean on nothing you better lean on this coffee table because they got books up on it that's the only thing you can lean on it's going to fall but you ain't going to put no lead come on man man listen

the NBA did an investigation now what we don't know they said but like out of I'm silver said they don't have subpoena power they don't have the ability to threaten somebody to send you away for a long period of time you got a wife right got kids a your kids will be graduated by the time you get out is your wife going to really wait for you for another six seven eight nine years you really you you you you're willing to trust that now this

Oh, oh, man, I don't know what, I don't know how you, I know you in the NBA, but we might think you got this month, some of this money by ill-gotten means. So we're going to seize it. We're going to put a freeze on all of it. Uh-oh. And they can do it? Hell yeah. They're the government.

Absolutely. Absolutely. They can do what the hell they want to do. Yeah, man. It's this, the timing of all of it is, it's kind of crazy, too. It's like, right before the season, it's like, hold on. I don't know. I don't know, man.

That was the best time to do it. When you got everybody attention? When can you get everybody attention? During the season. The season start. When everybody watching, everybody tuned in. Why do you think the sports are so popular? Football is so popular.

They think, oh, that's my team. They betting on these games. I got a vested interest. You know what, Ocho, you watch something a little bit. And Joe, you watch something a little bit more closely when you got a vested interest in it, don't you? Yeah Be it your fantasy

Be it I'm betting of You know Who's going to win How many catches How many yards Right How many touchdowns

How many sacks X Y and Z I'm watching this thing A little bit more closely Because I got money on it Yes And look It's hard for you to enjoy the game

When you got money on the game Yeah That's sorry Man this game Now Ocho Now Joe You understand What people always say

If they lose, man, they're game fixed. Yeah, yeah. That's the first time to go shop. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Man, it's, I hate, I hate it for people. I hate it. I just, I hate, like I said, I know Chaunce, I've known Chauncey since he was in high school.

Yeah, I don't, I don't know, I don't know Rozier, know him as a player, good solid player met Damon one time but it's it's tough it's tough because boy look here the government but I just say what did they say this is a three four year investigation yeah oh they don't come and get you to your you hold on unc most of the time when you talk about the feds now the feds don't come and get you to to year five until they got some a joke when they knock on that dough you best to believe they don't doubt it Every eye had crossed every tea before they came and got you. Yeah.

Normally when them people come, Bocho, they knock on your door. You open the door. Yeah. Invite them in. You'd like something to drink. You know, I'm saying I'm trying to be as hospitable as possible. Yeah. Would you like something to drink?

What would you like to know? It's a, hey. man. Those people don't play, man. And guess what? Because they can see everything, Ocho. They see all your money.

They see how much you got. How much you in debt? It used to be like, I don't know if it still is, but teams, oh, he can't hold out too much longer. He's in debt.

Actually, he's a month behind on his mortgage payment. And he got two kids in private school. And I heard him and his wife's not getting along. Don't even worry about it. He made back. Hold on.

They know all that anyway. they know all that anyway they know how much we spend a chat NFL teams I mean obviously I'm not playing I'm just saying the players now especially ones to make the big money they know how much they got in the bank they know they know how much they spend it they know exactly who you hang with they know where you like to go they know what clubs you be at man they know everything huh hell they know who you're dating they know who you're messing with when they invest that kind of money in you Joe back they know everything It's crazy

Hey, it's funny It's funny in the off-season I'm down here in Miami, I have no contact with the Cincinnati Bengals when I'm in the off-season None at all But Marvin Lewis can call and tell me

Where I've been and what I've done And this is before I got on social media All the M.B. All the retired FBI agents they got Man, boy, they don't play They got to keep eyes on that investment, Joe. Oh, well, you know, Hey, listen, I, hey, Joe, I was one year

you ain't never had to worry about, Joe. Well, they're going to make sure. They didn't worry about you. You know what I find funny when they say, well, you know, we understand, but we're going to let this process play out. You already do what he was doing. You probably tried to warn him. Oh, that might have been like a, hey, they own you?

I'm just saying, hey. He ain't stopped, though, huh? I don't know what it is, but they know. But do you know how many, do you know how much? Do you know how many retired? What did Mercedes say? When he starts traveling, he's going to ask the NFL to get him security.

To give him security. Yeah. And they'll do that. They'll do that for you. So you mean to tell me all these worth billions and billions of dollars, they got money tied up in these athletes, they're not going to know what y'all doing. You know everything, boy.

It's crazy. And listen. really they don't play if they want if they want you but they put Martha Stewart in jail that inside of truth that inside of yes and she should have just held on to the stock because she sold the stock and it would work more after she sold it she should have kept it right they put leona helmsley in jail she was worth more money than Martha Stewart she's the only poor people pay taxes.

They don't worry about it. Well, you pour now. Come on down here. Hey, the people don't pull. They go, hey. They go, when they want you, they get you. Yes, sir. Yeah, man.

I pay them their money. I overpay them. Send me a little something back. Send me a little something back. I don't want to be short. Anthony Davis came into the game against the Paces with a reported, with a reported bilateral Achilles tendinopathy.

He has Achilles tendinitis. A who? Achilles tendinitis. Hold on. Who is that again? What they said? Hey, not LA Laker former L.A. Yeah, the Mavre inexplicably let him play.

Aidy looked like he stepped hard on the ground and started limping instantly towards the bench. He exited the game, went to the locker room, and did not return. Hey, them type of. Look, them type of injuries there, man. You don't play with. Killies, calves, them little knick-knacks.

You don't play with that? Yeah. You don't play with them. Nah, at all. They get all these fancy names. Joe, instead of saying, tendin-night, and they get all these names. Tendonap-a-k...

That's what Kua had. He had quad tendinopathy. Yeah. Yeah, okay. That must be that, that's the scientific name, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, I'm telling you I can work with all them boys, Joe. They wouldn't be going through none of this.

but don't nobody want to listen to me. Don't anybody want to listen to me? Yeah, they don't want to show. They don't want to. It's all good. It's all good. You just, I mean. They say he was grabbing the bad, say it looked, it didn't look good.

Well, normally, he leapt off. I don't think he, I don't think, well, not. Probably strained it, but. Damn. Maybe a strain. But what, what, what, what we in, game what? Six, five, six, six, game four, five. I was dumb

I ain't know no better man I had tendinitis I let them shoot it up in my Achilles in college oh no damn huh nah

I had it I called Achilles tendinitis I was playing in Miami oh Joe first round if they told me Joe if they told me

you know hey we can put some medicine in it put it in there It wasn't nothing to shoot that thing. Hey, there was not a body part that I would not let them shoot up, Joe, to play. I'm going to tell you the worst one though. Oh, to play. I thought you were talking about, okay, my bad.

Yeah, to play. I had to play. I had, I caught turf toe to where I couldn't practice. I couldn't do nothing, okay, Ocho. Like the only thing I could do was play and I had to get shot up in my big toe before every game. Oh my God. Yeah. The worst pain.

every game? Before every game. It was in the playoffs, Ocho. We won seven games. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Seven games I had to get shot in their foot. Oh, man. That's the worst pain. My brother had that same thing. He ended up having to have surgery on his though, Joe. He got, had to get, he did practice. He ended up having to put a plate

in there so it wouldn't, it wouldn't bend. Because it normally told Ben, so they put that steel plate in there so it wouldn't been. But he ended up, he had to get it shot up every game, and then after the season, he ended up having surgery. Basically, same surgery that uh joe burrow had

and joe burrow missing that time my brother had that exact that exact yeah but that's painful oh yeah that's pain but that's painful that's that's pain but that's people the people like man what bro because i don't had shoulders and ribs and and ankles and achilles like i said i joe i ain't know no better yeah i know man you you know what and you learn how to take care of through your own but i'm trying to play that's why i'm trying to keep Maryport out of poverty. I'm trying to keep making sure my kids. I'm, man, look here.

I'm shooting. Damn, dad, I'm shooting it up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, AD, that time, that was the first time I had ever been, because I had never been injured. This was in college. I had never, I had never been injured before. So, and this is my senior year.

Man, scouts coming out, coming, Ocho, and I'm sitting up in, I'm sitting up on the bleachers. Yeah. Man, shh. Doctor said, well, we won't go in there, but we can put some medicine in it, and it'll calm it down. He's like,

Let me get that. I'm with it. Shoulders, ribs, like torn some rib college. What is I said? Right here. Went to catch a pass over the middle, Ocho. And the brace, because I knew the hit was coming. It popped, my real popped out.

Oh. He didn't even hit me. Is that I brace so hard because I knew it was coming? Yeah. Man, you talk about painful. I let them shoot up for like two weeks. Then I said, no, I can't do that.

You couldn't take it anymore. That thing, it hurt so bad, man. Hey, all right, hey, take a deep, Sharpie, take a deep breath. Hey, hey. Because they're the drilling. It's only going to get you so long. It's only going to get you so far.

Yeah, bad. And once it comes down, It's over the way. Absolutely. Both shoulders shot both my shoulders up, Ocho, for like three weeks. I'm talking about during the week, Ocho, I couldn't even lift my shoulders up like this. They put that medicine in there by 10 minutes later. You do a jump, a jack.

Hey, hey, what? Hey, man, well, everything was wrong with you. Oh, Ocho. Anchored, knees, hips, shoulders. tell you I had the nerves dead to my ankle so I wouldn't feel no pain so I could go out there and play they told me they say look they say uh shiana you know

might be some you might have some issues right I don't want no issues now I deal with that issue later I deal with I'm 50 and 60 I deal with that then but right now Mary and Porter got to eat I got kids got to eat so

if I ate yeah some days a another some days i can pop up out of bed and everything feel good and other days they feel like i got hit by bus yesterday so that's what a aid they be in the aid how did i need about this long oh cho who ooh getting your knees drained i get my knees like two hours before the game oh oh oh well i'm i told you about my bruce sack i had to get both of the my knee drain. I'm talking about like 40 and 50 cc's drawled off of them.

God damn, mom, what's what I'm doing? On Sunday and then go get it to get done Tuesday. Damn, oh man. Especially in season, it's hard to keep it down. It is. It is. Because you're running on it, you falling on your knees. Yes. And then I had, I think it's my left knee.

I could, if I fell on that knee. Right. Oh, oh, they're getting, they're getting. coming they're getting 50 cc's Monday morning off yeah and it it's so funny I don't I don't know if it I don't know what happened on I had the birth of sack from when I played in the flag football game I didn't yeah and yeah because I hit the ground to I hit the ground yeah hard and two days later it looked like it got to about huge it was huge and it was it was still been going down it's been two weeks now I got on the plane to go to Atlanta day before

yesterday and it was it was fat that morning it was still it was still it was still a lot left. I got on the plane and touched my leg and half of it was gone. It's on your knee? Yeah. So I thought I'm not sure listen. I don't know. I don't know if it had to do with anything with being in flight or

altitude or anything, but most of it was gone. So now it's just a little bit left. Sometimes they'll take it out Ocho. The Bursa. They didn't take it out. Nah. I had I had one

that got somewhat infected Cut a pass in Kansas City hit it split my elbow open I ain't know I ain't know we're playing I'm just playing I said Greek I got a little

I got a little hit my elbow he's like come back here let me take a look at it to Sharpie this ain't good so they cleaned it out they put they packed it with

and then the next day they are a good thing that uh we ended up having a bye week couldn't go nowhere damn but maybe they had to keep it flush to because this like Sharpe if that thing gets infected that ain't what you want you don't you don't want no staff infection sharp and that I ain't no staff infection what I had never heard of a staff infection yeah but man yeah I I've been some stuff to get on That's why people are, oh, you don't know what you do. Yeah, I don't put my body through some stuff. All right, Ocho and Joe, time to play or fade presented by prize picks.

Joe, I need you to help me out. Cole Anthony, more than four and a half assists against the Warriors. Cole Anthony to play for the books. Hold on, is he starred, no? It don't matter. He's going to just feed the ball to Giannis. I know, but I think he's been playing well. He had Taylor Sister other night.

Yeah, I know. That's how they get you, too. Hey, that's how they get you. He's starting, Joe. He starts. Oh, you're starting? Yeah. I give him, I give him.

So he basically got to get five or six in order to win. Talking about that's it. Like five or six. Between. and Snell and Miles Turner? I know it sounds good, it sound real good. Who they playing? Golden State, when is this?

Thursday, Golden State. Yeah, I'm going to give them the over. Devon A. Chay, 58 and a half rush yards against the Ravens, Ocho. Tomorrow night, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely, he's getting 58. I'm going to be there. Everybody's been running up and down and through him, like a hallway.

Up and down through him. That's what it's going to be like tomorrow. So he'll get 59 yards rushing. Yeah. All right. We're going to take the Ovo that. Rashad Bateman, 31 and a half yards receiving. I don't know where he's been.

They ain't been throwing him the ball worth of. Damn. Lamont been hurt, huh? LaMah been hurt. But Lamar's in there, then the offense, the offense is able to function, you know, in the right way. Everybody get to touch the ball. So he's going to get 32 yards. Now, I don't know about all that, but that's on you.

You know what? I'm going to say he's going to do it because Lamar going to scramble around. He's going to get a couple of broken plays. I'm going to give him 32. This is what's going to be hard, Joe, Dylan Harper, more than 22. more than 22 and a half combined points, rebounds, and assists. Excuse me, versus the heat. Yeah.

Hey, man, I don't know if y'all been paying attention. Oh, he bawled. I know we talk about Wimby, but this rookie, this rookie right here, Dylan Harper, man, he, nice. And he, you know what it is, Uncle Ocho? He ain't forcing an issue. He's been super efficient and he's getting numbers, what, 14, 15 a game, probably about five, six, or six, or six. Like, he's bowling. Yeah.

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All right, we're going to get out of here on this one. It's time for our final segment. The evening is time for Q and A. man the lake is losing let me see yeah they're down by one with ten seconds ago they was winning they was up big yeah they ain't minnesota dr frank el bellamy hey fam it's almost Halloween what were y'alloyne costumes as kids and which ones were your favorite. Man, I'm in the country.

We ain't have no Halloween costume. Everybody was a ghost. Cutting that shit, cut the, cut, cut them sheets. Cut the eyes out there. Everybody was a ghost. They ain't had no damn colloquy. What costume? Hey, hold on.

Speaking of that, hey, can Ash hear me? Yeah. You got, Ash got to, Ash got to put this Halloween costume up for me real quick if you can. Hold on. I'm gonna send it to it. Hey, I was beauty and the beast with my daughter, Joe, and Unk.

When was there? It was here in Miami, but it was the full, it was the full, how do I say? It was the full costume, like the full character costume. Oh, it was so raw. Well, I'm gonna see in the ass

and see if asking how long it took ass to put it up if she can. My daughter was so little. She was beauty and I was the beast, but it was the actual costume as if I worked that, Disney World or something. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Ash, you got that? Yeah, she's like, give a second. Hey. Yeah, hey, a, uh, I'm talking about the, it's about the, the costume was about seven feet tall. So when I put it on, you know, Joe, I look at it from around, around the neck, around the neck area, there was a place for me to be

able to see you out. Yeah. It looked like, it was seven feet tall and my daughter was so, she was so short. It was, it was baby Kennedy. She was so short a time. She might have been maybe, maybe three. Maybe three, three or four. That was my favorite costume.

It was so dope. It's a place down here in Pompano called Costum World. And you can buy every character costume, like the stuff they wear at Disney World, like the real costume. I ain't talking about no target or order an online. I'm talking about the real thing you got to get in it. Like it's going to be hot. Yeah. It got everything you're looking for.

I don't even, I don't even remember dressing up. I'm going to be honest with you. I ain't never, I ain't never had no costume until I got to, till I was 30. So there, there go right there. I see. You did Joe? Yeah. Yeah.

Come on. Don't do me like that. Don't do me like that. Lord, have mercy. That's, that's the beast costume, man. That thing was nice, boy. I was about seven feet tall. And that thing.

Lakers one. One 16, 115, Joe. All right, okay I tell you what that boy A-R over there putting it down You hear me? Yes, sir You say he's going to be an awesome up

He'll get voted in You know, he can First of all, You got Luca, Steph, Shea, and aunt That might be, I don't think they're going to take five guards Hold on, hold on

So you don't, you must don't think Brian coming back to them But that's what I'm saying But LeBron would be classified as a front court because, you know, they go front court or back court now, Joe. So, what about Luke? Luca back court, Ant-Man back court, stealth back court, and Shea back court. So you think the Lakers are going to have three guys in the All-Star?

How good is their record going to be? That's what's going to be to tell. But, man, like, I'm talking about for negotiation purposes at the end of the season. Oh, he's getting whatever he won't at the end of the game. It doesn't matter All-Star or not. He's going to get what he won't, Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, look, this is important, though.

Austin Reeve, this is impressive what he's doing. Yeah. And I just saw that. You saw, you saw the last shot he just shot, Joe? Who? Austin Reeve. Nah, uh-uh. He didn't, you know what? It's like tonight he didn't have a great shoot night.

He was nine for 24, but he had 28 points, but he had 16 or six. And he was eight of 23. Last shot. Now he's nine to 24 because he made the last shot. Oh, did it? Yeah. win the game for him with 6.6 seconds ago. But my thing is, if your shot ain't falling, man, can you do something else?

The man out here, he dropped 16 dimes, bro. You know, that's why I tell a lot of these young cats who want to improve on their game. And you can't just be no score, bro, because if your shot ain't falling in the night, what else can you do for us? The man, dropped 16 assists. Sheldon Pope said, I just read Alan Arsson book. And I saw you played in the league with him. how was it seeing what he went through with the media

and how did you feel when they changed the dress code for the NBA? Man, I hated to change in the dress code. You know, man, we used to pull up to the plane. I'm talking about you get right off the bus, step right on to the plane. You ain't have to do no security check. They didn't do none of that. When I first came to league, you can wear your warm-up suit. And then all of a sudden, man, they were searching for everything.

Now you got to wear a suit coat or a suit. Like, the change was, it was pretty dressing, man. But AI paved the way for all of us, you know what I mean? Like, you can still see his imprint in the league now. I mean, in some of our megastars, you know, like Shea, who was, you know, who looked up to AI, got the cornrows, you know what I mean? Like, it's, he left for, he left for me in bed. AI started with the sleeve.

That guy ain't, eh, I had this burst, had a bursor. That's why he wore the sleeve. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Everybody else got the sleeve. Don't you because they look cool. Yeah, yeah. They don't know he had, he really had to have surgery on his elbow.

Yeah, he did. He went to, uh, I had elbow surgery, too. He went to Andrews. James Andrews down in, uh, uh, what, Birmingham? Alabama. Burm, yeah. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, he changed, I mean, tattoos.

Everybody got tattoos now. Everybody got tattoos, cornrows, or tattoos and dreads. You got one. I'm trying to think. Right. I'm trying to think of a brother that don't have no tattoos. It ain't many of them. And if you ain't got those tattoos, you got cornrows or dreds, a lot, or whatever.

Right, right. You got one and the other. But David Stern, hey, David Sterren said, nah, y'all are in the scale of these advertising sponsors. Y'all be to put some, y'all be to put, y'all be to dress like y'all business people. We are business. We are not going to let you guys mess up this money. Yeah. So, hey, look, so it was one all-star game.

I played with AI, and that's the all-star game. He came in. He had his du rag on, but he had to cut his hair, and nobody knew. So he took that du rag off. We weren't crazy. He had a big split in between his head from wearing the braids for so long. I couldn't even believe. I'm like, man, this ain't the dude.

I grew up watching. What does happen? I saw that clip. Y'all was in the locker room, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I saw that clip. But he, man, he's great dude. I bet the dude, man, he's a good dude.

Yeah, bro. Robert Gomez, hey, fellas, did you ever get in so much trouble as a kid that you started planning or running away so you wouldn't get a whippet? I ain't had no way to go. I ain't had no money. Shit, where I'm going. You could run. I hear in the tree.

Catch him, spanky. Spanky ain't catching nothing today. I'm going to run away. I wish I would. Hey, you know, back then, where you run away, your mama locked your ass out of the house now. You play games as you want to. Yeah, hey, you got in trouble, though, when she came home, you had that house clean over there.

Everything clean up. Hey, hold up. Hey, hey, uncle Joe, you clean up everything to hope she gave you some grace. I don't get into trouble. Hey, hey, and when she come in there, you make like you sleep. Boy, please, get up. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, by grab my cup hall for working. Grady, you want to go fishing?

I don't Doug basing everything, Joe, Joe. Man, please. But you know what the worst was, Joe? You get a whipping and then your grandma tell everybody, yeah, I had to tell that boy ass up. Ain't nobody asking you that gritty? Why are you telling my business? She got on the fault and tell everybody.

She called my uncle. She called her friends. Yeah, I had to cut that boy ass today. He ended up being married. Hey, you don't want nobody. You don't want nobody know you got to go up. Grady, why you dry snitcher? Ain't nobody ask you, did you whip Shannon today?

You volunteered that. Yeah, I tell that boy ass up. You never, I'm not sure Joe how it was when y'all grew up, but when we had a family function of people came to my grandma house, she had those Eastern Star meetings. Yeah. My grandma was Eastern Stars. He had them Eastern Star meetings and everybody come over.

and here she go calling me to come out here. And you do, boy, show them the little dance you used to do. Show him the little dance you learned. And I'm like, come on, Grandma. And she, you know, she's talking nice. And I'm like, I'm rejecting wanting to do the dance. And she gets like, boy, if you don't show these people to dance you've been working on.

Yeah, hey, talking with a teeth shirt. Oh, yeah. Oh, bitch, that we call bitch with me talking. My grandma, hey, be talking and don't move. Not one, don't, nothing move. At all. How you treat me like I'm some little. He got me out here in front of all these ladies, man.

They got on the all white, man. Talk about I showed them to dance. You know what about we start talking between, when they talk between their teeth? I'm gonna cut your ass when you get home. I'll just start crying. Hey, look, that's my grandma in church, boy. Hey, yeah.

Game play. El Prey said, Joey, how was your mental experience during your recovery? What were the adjustments you had to make to incorporate yoga into the healing process? Well, so when I got, is he asking how did I get in the yoga? No, he said now that, you know, you went through it and everything, so how you get ingratiating yourself back into the process. Oh, well, I go to, I go to yoga three times a week because I'm trying to get that range of motion back in my leg.

So I let that, I got to let that heat penetrate it and loosen it up. But I'll be back in business, man, probably by the first of the year, meaning like, I already got, I'm at about a hundred and twenty-five degrees. We walk around at like 130, 140 degrees. So I'm at like 125, so I'm close to normal. So I think the yoga's definitely helping. Like, I got red light therapy and cryote therapy in my studio, Uncle Ocho. So I use it on the regular.

Yeah, I ain't playing. Hold on. You got that in your house? Nah, I said that at my yoga studio. Oh, you got in the yoga studio? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Joe, well, you got a little money, well?

Look, look, look, hello, chill out. So I took what I used to do in, when I played in the NBA, I used to do the red light there, but I used to do the cryo therapy. I just took it into the yoga world. And, you know, it's just kind of work for me. Oh, okay. You got that, you got that cryo, huh? Come on, man.

Come on, I got to get back right. Yeah, that cryo, man. That's a little two, three, that little two minutes, that's a, hey. Three minutes. In the three minutes? Yeah, you can go a minute and a half. You can go two, two and a half. Like, it's got different things, but yeah, it's the three minutes.

You do that three minutes, I feel like you're enough of 15, right? Joe, I did, let me tell you what I did. I did that, I did it twice. You know you're only supposed to do it once a day. I did it twice. Yeah. Joe, my body locked up. Yes, because you burn, no, it didn't burn calories.

But I'm saying, it was like I was dehydrated. Yeah, what I'm saying is, so when you do cryotherapy, all the blood rushes to the center of your chest. All your blood rush to the center of your chest. And it's like a workout. You burn calories. You can burn crazy calories. Because it's trying to heat up.

That's why you burn more calories in the winter than you do it in summer because your body is trying, your body is rushing so hard to keep you warm. If you notice, Ocho, when people get cold, what do they start doing? Shivering. That's your body trying to generate heat to warm you up. So that thing is minus 180. man, I said, you know what, I did it like it, I did it like it, 10 o'clock, 10.30,

then went back at like six. Never. That thing ain't no joke, what? J213 said, glad to finally catch you all. Law school has been a lot of fun, but God is carrying me through. What foods did you ever not touch again after you saw how they made some money.

I can't touch spam ever again. Chitlins. Sardines. Pig feet. I eat pig feet again. I fry some spams. Hey, I'll let somebody get some toes. You make some toast.

Fry that ham. That spam? I eat spam right now. I ain't messing with no sardines. I ain't messing with nobody's chitlins. Well, you ain't. Hold on. You won't eat no chilling, but you'll eat raccoon? I sure will. And you, and you're going to eat some, too.

Because I got a guy, I don't found a guy in New Orleans that's going to make us a raccoon stew. Me, you and Joe. Oh, listen, I'm eating, I'm, um, listen, I eat anything. You got to worry about me. I'm going to try it. That's all we got to do, Joe. We got to try it. Joe, um, uh, uh, uh, Ocho, and Iso adventure. We got to eat everything. We got to eat Mount Norseusk.

Ocho, Ocho, you and Joe got to try bull, dick, and onions. Y'all got to try all that pig. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Time, time, out, time, time, time, time, time. Time out. Time out. Hey, what's going on. Hey, listen, I try the onions.

No, Ocho. I ain't even trying that. Listen, man, come on now. Hey, people thought I was mine. Go Google it right now, Ocho. Type in on Google. and see what come up, you go see it.

And this people eat it. I ain't heard of this one. I'm from some country. I know some country folks, man. As your grandma, your grandma still lied, Joe? Ask her. My grandma, 84.

Yeah. Absolutely. I see how you try to slide that one in. Yeah. Would you eat pig ear, pig tail? No, I don't eat pig ears. Oh, you ain't never had no pig ear sandwich? I had, I had them.

Okay, I just can't, like, I, like, I don't know if it's how they was cooked, but I could, I can't get, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, let me get, let me get, oh, Joe, yeah. It's kind of like, it's kind of, it's kind of like the, the, what's the, what's the, the, the, uh, the pig intestine stuff? Oh, yeah, you're talking about, a hog mow? No, the stuff we were just talking about. I can't even get past the smell. Yeah, you got to smell bad of that.

Oh, what about, what about, you ever had the hoghead cheese? I ain't had that on it. So I guess, I guess you were able to try it. What about, what about, what about tongue? You ever had the cow tongue? Oh, Lord have mercy. Yeah, I had a little cow tongue. I had a little cow tongue, a little chocolate cup of ants.

What? Yeah, so yeah, we go, we go get that. We go ahead. We eat all, we eat all. Yeah. Everything. Everything. Everything.

Everything. Joe, say, Ocho, let me be your tech guy. I'm being serious. Hey, hey, boy, listen, man. If you know anything about computers and Sony cameras, I can show you use it because I can't, I can't get my, I'm using my laptop camera right now. Hey, Joe, it's still clear? It's clear a little bit. I mean, you make it do.

We make it do. Okay, but yeah, man, I don't know. And I don't know, but I spent, I was the best by the geek squad, they know what to do. The lady, the lady working in the camera section, she sat there with me for three hours, Joe, sat there for three hours. I bought a new 13-inch computer, because I thought maybe if I had a new computer, new camera. No, they still, it still didn't recognize it until they tried something called a cam link. And we did the cam link and the computer was able to recognize the camera with the cam link once I plugged it into the port. then the Elgado, it keeps shutting off the night.

So now I'm still right back at square one. We're gonna have chicken feet, chicken neck, chicken gizzleses. Okay, gizzes. I know some gizzes. I like, I like gizze too. Gizzis good. Jay just said, oh, how do you deal with Ocho, man? What happened?

Everything. JT. 513 is Ocho. You from Miami. You can't load that clip. and can't. Who can't load that clip? I load my clip with my elbow, too. Whatever.

What is he? Nah, you said, Ash, please set up eight ball street and fishing street. First of all, Joe probably had been fishing in 25 years.

Ocho ain't really never been fishing. Who ain't never fished? It's been a couple years. Hey, why don't me throwing a raw, huh? It's been a couple years. Lord, have worse. Boy, don't you, you ain't going nowhere throwing no rod like that.

I don't think that boy can do nothing. I'm going to keep it rid of. First of all, why are you throwing it with both hands? What you mean? I'm throwing it with one hand. Oh, you, first of all, if you go in deep sea fishing, Ocho, I get it. And you want to get spinning well out there. But if you're sharp, if you fish, if you're fishing, let's just say you're fishing in the pond

or you're fishing in the lake, you just whip it out there like that, Ocho. Oh, yeah, could it. Yeah, because that's a little pole, but I got the big pole because I'm thinking we were deep-sea fishing. Oh, he's doing that big boy out there. Yeah, yeah. I really know.

And you see the extension? You see how you throw it? Oh, Lord. Hey, you got to wind it up. Oh, T.C.'s 215. Once you turn 30 in professional sports, what do you do differently than you did your rookie year? Shoot, countdown the time before they're going to let you go.

No, you, you, you're, well, I think that's where a lot of your eating habits, you know, you start to change them. You start to change them eating. When you get about 30, man, you got to change them eating habits. You can't wake up eating them chips and zoosos and whamwell. You got to get some real protein, start, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, you got to really fuel that body.

That was probably the biggest change for me. Well, I started, I started out about 25 eating. Then I started bringing my food. I was eating, you know, chicken breads, rice. broccoli, blackout peas, and then I would have a steak a couple of times a week. I'd have eight-ounce fillet, stuff like that. But you're absolutely right. I mean, my first couple of years, I was fast food every, I mean, Dairy Queen, Burger King, and McDonald's.

Man, look, I could be headed to the game with a honey bun and some tips. I kept that mini-made juice. Honey bun and chip, I had about four cards or that. Hey, bad, please. Hey, you just don't know no better when you're young. You don't. DeJorge Rockavik said, Uncle Ocho, y'all played a vicious sport,

but do y'all think y'all could make it through seal training and hell week. Hell no. It all depends. See, that isn't really something I really aspired to do. Now, what I aspired to do, Ocho, was be a professional football player. So now, if you say, okay, Shadda,

that's not an option, you know, footballing the option. And I sent my mind to it, you damn right. Because it's more mental than physical. Because there've been guys that was on the swim team can't make it through seal training because mentally they're not strong enough. So that's what it comes down to. But, I mean, being sleep deprived, man, you know how grouchy you are when you're sleeping? Man.

And they, I mean, they got you going on two, three hours of sleep a day. Hey, I'll be, hey, Ocho, I'll be walking in and ringing that bell. I see y'all. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Ding, ding. I'll let you all later. Yeah, hey, I ain't much of a swimmer either. You can't swim up?

I can, but you got, hey, man, they got your hands behind your back and you got to stand that water for an hour, Ocho, you just, You just got to. Hey, you got to relax, huh? You got to relax. Yeah, you know, I did a little Navy SEAL. Yeah, you can't. You can't.

Yeah, you can't. You got to relax. That's why, hey, remember we had a discussion by being tied up. Yeah. The whole bedposts coming down. Hell, half your apartment coming down. Hell, nah.

I do not like being restraint. Hell to the nose. Hey, that's some king of stuff down, man, please. Eagle Fan 78, Anthony R are a home in ending after this season. If not, where to. He's asking if Anthony Richardson will remain in ending after this season. As a backup, they're going to get rid of them? I think they'll try to probably move.

If this season keeps progressing the way it does, he has more value to them being traded than sitting on your team on your bench. Because you're not going to guarantee that fifth your option, Ocho. That's not. You're not doing that.

Obviously not for that kind of money, no. Tino Davis said, Uncle Ocho, my uncle passed away today due to congestive heart failure. He loved y'all to death from the NFL to night camp. days, any words would be helpful. Tino, I'm sorry, bro, about your uncle passing, man.

My condolences. So, yeah, death is never really easy to deal with and someone that cared about you. We appreciate the support. We appreciate him following our NFL career. We appreciate him follow us at nightcap. But hopefully you have peace and understanding and comfort in your troubled times.

So thank you, man. Thank you for the message. Thanks. But our thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family and anyone impacted by the passing of your uncle. that that concludes this episode of nightcap I want to thank each and every one of you guys for joining us tonight as you saw AR Kobe of the Ozarks

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Joe, how many years you played the NBA? 17, 18. They count the 18 because of the 10-day that I did with Boston, but I said okay so that's a lot you understand that's a long long time to play and he had the point of contact so uh he ain't backside on nothing he having to deal with those defensive ends he's having a combo block he's doing wham he's doing scooping he's setting the edge so congratulations mercedes on a on a on a great career um do well broncos good looking cap. We'll see you tomorrow night after the Ravens Miami Dolphins game in which the Ravens

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