Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Raja Jackson violent attack on Syko Stu

Episode Date: August 25, 2025

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you get your podcasts brought to you by novartis founding partner of i heart women's sports network oh our special guests has joined us win four-time gramie award winning artists author actor activist his 10th studio album reconstruction just released the album features t i killer mike john bellin and friday here he is la craye how you doing bro what's going on with y'all man how y'all doing man i'm doing good I'm doing good. So help me understand this. You blended faith with hip hop.

I mean, I mean, growing up, I'm sure you, with this, you probably came up in the church, but you also listened to rap. So how did you come up with the combination? Like, you know what? I'm a blended, too. I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't grow up in church.

You didn't? What? No, I didn't grow up in church. Okay. Oh, man. I like this. Yeah. So how do we get this?

Yeah, I grew up, you know, just love and rap. I grew up loving rap. I really wasn't, I would look at church kids. I thought that was lame. I thought it was corny. I didn't grow up in church. I was a free thinker. My mama was, you know, she was fed by the Black Panthers.

She just was like, hey, don't get caught up in all that religion. And, you know, they got too many rules. You can't wear pants. He can't wear lipstick. So for me, I just didn't, we didn't go to church, for real. So I got to explore on my own and just kind of like see what was real. I tried out all kind of stuff. And, you know, I love hip hop.

I love rap music. That was my thing. And so when I did meet the Lord, I had a spiritual transformation, you know, like as a grown man. Yes. It was already there. It was like, all right, how do I combine what I already know in this new revelation? you did what I'm saying so yes that's kind of what it was for me yeah so I relate I relate to people who you know are on the fringes you know the churches the greenhouse

I like the jungle I like that listen would you being a fan of hip hop what do you think about where the current state of hip hop is right now truth truthfully yeah I mean so hip hop if i consider myself a part of hip hop if i'm healthy is healthy but this what i say uh you got a lot of youngians out there who don't don't know about what what it used to be right so they're not learning from the past in order to make the present better you did what i'm saying so a lot of it is disposable music a lot of it is just hot takes and just a lot of stuff so you know I like when you can mix the two. I like when you can take the old

and mix it with the new and then you got something good. So there's some stuff that's out there that I dig that I like, and then there's some stuff that I'm like, man, y'all ain't going to be here in two years. You know what I mean? Like, y'all going to be gone. So when you're growing up

and you're talking about you listen to rap, so who are some of the influences? Yeah, I listen to everything. So you got to understand. I grew up single parent household. You know, no, role model. Daddy ran with the Compton Crips, uncles gang members. I don't, I don't have no healthy male influences. So to me, rappers were like my mom and dad. So I grew up listening to

everything. I listened to, I mean, you name it, I listened to it. Old school, new school. I would go back to before I was born. I would listen to Houdini, EZ, then I go to Tupac, and then I go to Lil Wayne, then I go to DMX and Jay-Z, like everything. I listen to it all. So do you feel like that Christian hip-hop has it broken into mainstream, or is there still more work for you and others to do? I think it's breaking now because people are tired of the same-on, same-old music-wise. And so I came in, I come kicking the door in, you know what I mean?

So when I first got started, everybody looked at me like I was crazy. They looked at me like an alien. I would come to interviews and they would touch me in that. be like, so where your choir roll bat? You know what I mean? Where your choir roll at? And what is this? And what, you know, what do you rap about?

Jesus is God. And ha, ha, ha. Come on, bro. Like, come on, man. Get out of here. So, you know, once I had to, you know, I did the, you know, the BT Cipher. And when I did that, they didn't even know what category to put me in. So they put me with the international people.

So then I, when I get on there and I start cutting up, then they're like, man, dude is raw. Like, you know, then hip hop start people. paying attention. And they, you know, so now I'm, you know, the rapper rappers are like, man, I like buddy, you know, the game and Royster 5-9 and, you know, Beyonce even was like, man, she saw my video. Like, man, you know, so then people was like, okay, he's nice. And now I think because I had to take all them lashes, this younger group of dudes behind me, it's easy for them. Yeah. They just, they just got to be dope. And they got to know how to, you know,

don't know what I don't I don't I don't nobody wants you to come in condemning people you know what I'm saying like we may not condone but we do not condemn yes yes you did what I'm saying but we don't judge you did what I'm saying like listen that's you and God got to have some conversations I came to tell you my journey my story tell you what the Lord had told me you know if it if it hits you it hits you if it don't it don't you know what I'm saying like that's how I move was it was it difficult for you especially when you think about hip hop now and the sound hip hop is completely different as opposed to how it was 10 years ago when it comes to you and making your music

and your sound. Were you ever, what's the word I'm looking for? Was there any discomfort and wanting to stay true to your normal sound and what you do? Being, today's era of music sounds completely different than what it used to be.

Yeah, I think I'm a bridge, you know? Like, I'm a, I'm in the middle. Like, I'm a little. to the old school, but I'm big bro to the new school. I'm in the middle of two generations, like Jay Cole would say. You know what I mean, that Kendrick, Drake, Cole, like, space. And so for me, it's like I learn from them, but I learn from, but I learn from them and I live with them too.

So I just feel like I'm comfortable in both worlds. You know what I'm saying? I'm comfortable. I'm like, yeah, I'm like Travis Hunter on the field. You did what I'm saying? I'm offense defense. Yeah, yeah, that's what's up. You know what I'm saying?

I'm fit in both spaces. I like that. Yeah. Let me ask you this. I think I'm very interested in this. What do you think of the biggest misconception is that people still have about you, the man, versus you, the Christian rapper? Come on. I know you, I know you, I know.

I was a junior deacon. I sang in a junior choir. Oh, Lord, God. That makes so much sense. That's why you, that's why you are mess now. That makes perfect sense. Yeah, he's definitely a mess. He's definitely a mess.

The ones who grow up in it, be like, yeah, man, I'm out here. You know what I'm saying? No, for me, you know, you got to think, like, like for a lot of folks who grew up in church, I don't have the same baggage. I don't have the same trauma.

I don't have, like, seeing, like, the, you know, people doing one thing on Sunday, another thing on Monday. Like, I don't, I grew up seeing all of that stuff. So I don't have the trauma. I don't have the baggage that a lot of people have grown up. Now, I got different stuff from being a rapper in the church having some issues with me. I got different stuff for being a black man and, like, standing up for the rights of black people in church having some issues with that. But I don't have a lot of that church trauma. My mama got a lot of that.

But I just don't have it. So for me, the misconceptions, people come in expecting me to know the hymns. And I don't know the hymns. I didn't grow up listening to the gospel. I only like, like, Kirk Franklin and Fred Hammond. I only got a couple that I really grew up that I know. Right. So the misconceptions don't, like I'm like, bro, I'm not what you think I am.

I'm probably more like you than you know. Right. You know what I mean? So you did grow up with James Cleveland and Shirley Seas and the Mississippi Math Choir. Alabama, Alabama, the five ball and boys. Mighty clouds of joy. Body clouds of joy. Bro, when I tell you, bro, I'll be with my wife.

My wife grew up in church. And she'd be like, that's a James Cleveland. I'm like, I don't know who you're talking about. I had a day asked me to do this tour and McDonald's gospel tour. I'm on the tour and I'm like, they're like, man, you're up there with the legends. I'm like, I don't know, none of these people. I never heard none of their music. I ain't going to lie to you.

You know what I'm saying? I'm going to marry, Mary, Mary. You know, so every night I'm getting on stage and all the church moms just got their arms folded up looking at me like, what you're doing here? And then I just get to tell them. I say, hey, you may not like what I do, but you got a son in jail. You got a grandson who, you know what I'm saying, who needs something different to listen to. I speak their language. You dig what I'm saying?

It's like, when David tried to put that armor on that didn't fit, he's like, this don't fit me. You know, give me a sling and some stones. I'm going to get the jar. And that's me. I'm like, just give me the sling and a stone. The choir robe don't fit me. I like that. You know what I'm saying?

Where you grew up at? Where you from originally? So, originally I'm Houston, Texas. Okay. And then over the years, I moved to the West Coast. And now I'm in Atlanta. So, you know, I got that little hybrid of South and West. Okay.

Well, you pretty much stayed in the Bible Belt, because you know the South, that's the Bible Belt. Yeah. No, for sure. For sure. When I left to the West Coast, that's when I was a little freer. Right. But I get it.

I got a lot of homeboys who grew up in church and I'd be like, in my mind I'm like you know why do you what is you doing is you in or you out like when I'm smoking I'm smoking I'm not smoking and going to Sunday school like this weird I just didn't understand it like it was a weird concept for me you know what I'm saying like yeah it's like man we've been to go on this church trip I'm going to get with Sarita I'm like why are you going a church trip to get with a girl why just go to the club I don't understand what's it's like foreign concept to me hey I go ahead Ocho Now, we're going to say, I really enjoyed that.

I was able to listen to the album earlier today. I enjoyed the new album, Reconstruction, you know, life, due for the part, the H-2, holidays. How long, how long normally does it take you to have a vision and would you be great when it comes to making an album? How long does it actually take? Yeah, if I'm not inspired, the music going to be, it's not going to hit a nerve. Right.

You know what I mean? It's just I'm dialing it in. Yes, sir. So it's got to be the instant. inspiration. See, I think y'all could probably relate to this. Like, it's the reason why people like y'all. So the reason why people connect with y'all is because they feel like y'all connected to the culture. Y'all don't feel so high and mighty, even though I know Shannon be on his private jets eating sandwiches in the whole nine. You know what I'm saying? Like, I owe Delta.

You don't feel what I'm saying? I know you be on your private jet vibe. I'm more like Ocho. They mad at me because I don't spend enough money. You know what I'm saying? That's, that's my My boy was mad at me today. He said, come on, man. Just, you know, spend another $56 and upgrade the vehicle when you go to the rental car. I'm saying, I'm just going from A to B. It don't make a difference to me. You did what I'm saying?

Right. But, you know, I didn't forgot what I was, what you asked me again. Oh, I want to take the big out of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what I was going to say is when I'm connected to the people, I feel like I'm, I can talk about issues that are relevant. You know, if my pastor says something that. was dope. He said, you know, I was going through the motions and just, you know, he said, hey, man, you smell like Cologne and green rooms. He said, you need to get some, some sheep stuff

on your feet, man. You don't, you need to smell like, it's like the sheep. And what he was saying was you need to be connected to the people who need help and who, who, who, you know what I'm saying, you're in the green rooms and you on the private jets and you ain't really connected to the people. So for me, it's like, man, I got to ride the public transportation on one day. You know, I need to go to McDonald's and just pull up and I'm going to dab everybody up up and I'm, you know what I'm saying. And then I get in the studio and I'm writing for that kid who, you know, is 28 and he's still working at McDonald's and he's trying to figure out what his life going to look like. And you did what I'm saying. So then I get in the studio. Then it

get real for me. Then I start coming up with some good concepts and that's how you get that album. So it took me a little over a year and a half. Okay. Because I had to live some life, man. I like that. I like that. I like that. You realize in any aspect, when you become outspoken, it potentially cost you opportunities. You've spoken openly about your faith. Do you feel that's cost you some opportunities? It did early

on. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I think people are more open to spirituality nowadays. Like even Gen Z, like they open to it. It's not like taboo like it used to be. You know what I'm saying? So early on it was like, I couldn't get a sponsorship or

you know, like, oh man, I got the number one out of in the country. I beat Maroon 5. You know what I'm saying? And I can't get a Verizon deal. Like, come on Verizon. Like, holl at me. You know what I mean? But it's like, well, we don't want to offend nobody.

And I'm like, bro. You got to be right down the middle. I'm like, bro, you got rappers who are literally junkies, rapping about being junkies. And you're giving them deals. You know what I'm saying? I'm sitting here giving people hope and talking about relevant matters. And, you know, me, T.I.

Killam Mike, we got a song grieving the loved ones that we lost. I'm like, come on, man. What are we doing here? So, yes, I caught flack for that early on. And then I just, you know, just hate because people was like gospel rap, Christian rap. I remember, I'll never forget, bro. I went my, shout out to Bobby Jackson when he was coach of the Sacramento Kings. You know, he loved the Lord.

He said, hey, man, why don't you come to a practice? I said, for sure, man, I'll be honored. You know, so I'm in a practice, you know, players shooting around. He pulled all the players together. He's like, hey, y'all. I had my little, my boxes back when I had mixtape when we listened to CDs, you know what I'm saying? My box and mixtapes and Bobby Jackson said,

Hey, y'all, y'all, gather around, gather around. Y'all, we got us a gospel rapper here today. And I was like, oh, no, Bobby, you shouldn't have said that. You should have just said a rapper. Rapper. You know what I'm saying? You should have, ah, you know, not that I don't love the Lord, but I just knew what their brain was going to think when they heard that.

So soon as he said that, you could just see everybody be like, man and so then i got my little mixtape i'm like trying to pass out my mixtape it's free and then i heard and one of the players man i ain't gonna say his name but you know boogie took my cd and said i don't want no gospel rep you did what i'm saying and i was like wow wow you know so uh you know it was it was it was wild man that's that's the type of stuff i used to have to deal with now it was cool but back in the day man it was rough who do you think judge you harder Pastors are rappers. Is that a question?

Yeah. What? Who killed Jesus? The religious people. What? They say you play it with the Lord. Man, the religious people will, boy? Yeah.

Boy? Yeah. They will crucify you, boy? Listen. And behind. You can make a case more people don't die behind religion than any other. The funny thing about it, the most. religious, the most religious that condemn everything else outside of what their beliefs

may be, they do the first things behind closed doors. And that's, you see, so that's why I tell people, you know, I got a song on the album called Erase Me. I don't push religion or push relationship. You did what I'm saying? Because let's just, let's look at it like my wife, for instance. If I'm, if I'm, religion is rules and duty. If I come home at night and I'm not going to bedroom door, I say, hey, baby, it's my duty to get

you these flowers so here you go I'm sleeping on the couch you know what I'm saying right but if I come home and I if it's about relationship then I say you know what girl I was thinking about you all day I love the relationship that we got and I was just thinking about how awesome you are how much I appreciate you and I got you these flowers just to show you my my love for you that's relationship okay and it's going to be a good night yeah I see what I see what you put down I see what you put down I see what you put down. I see what you put down. And so does she. Okay. And so here's the thing.

All I'm saying is, if you treating God like it's religion, like duty, that ain't, all you doing is following orders. And as soon as you feel like he ain't looking, you're going to while out. But if you got a good relationship with him, then you're going to do stuff because you're like, man, I love you, man. I just want to do what you want me to do. It ain't me following rule so that's what I'm saying I don't rock with the legalistic rule following religious folk I'm with people who got such a good relationship with God they don't want to do nothing stupid because it's like man I got a good relationship that's what I'm on how were you when you when the Lord spoke to you or you got that say you know what this is my calling I I went to high school with a guy

we call him preacher his name here McNeil and he's a pastor and everybody knew because as long as I can remember he carried a Bible I mean he had to be he probably was like 11, 12 years old, and he carried that Bible. And we called him Preacher. I don't think anybody called him his real name, except the schoolteacher. Everybody called him preaching. And sure enough, to this day, he's a pastor. How old were you when you received the word, when you received the call and said,

you know what? This is what I want you. This is the page I'm about to be on. Yeah. I think I was 1920. I started getting real sick because, you know, 1920, I was like, all right, I met God. This is real. want to change but you know how it is when anybody when they have an awakening they be real

passionate it's like when your friend first become a vegan he like man don't eat no meat right you don't need to eat meat meat meat is bad I got a vegan spot over here you know you just on fire like it's an awakening so I have my awakening but then you know real life hits you and you realize It's like, okay, wait a minute, this excitement is great, but I still got to live real life. And then you start having problems, and then the temptations come along. And then, you know, when you mess up, which I did, because, you know, the ladies was a struggle for me. You did what I'm saying? I'm 20 years old.

So you did what I'm saying. So for me, I was like, well, I'm messed up so bad. I can't really go back out. You feel what I'm saying? Because I don't want to be no hypocrite. But the reality was, you know, a lot of times that shame keeps us from growing. It's like a baby taking steps. Like when a baby fall, you don't say, you're stupid baby.

Why are you falling? You say, it's all right, get it up, keep walking. So that's what I needed to get up and keep walking. And so about 23, I was real serious. But I wasn't like, your man, what's his name, that she was just talking about, the preacher, preacher man. Kurt Freightly? No, you man that did you went to school with

Oh, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, Carrie, Carrie, MacNeill, you're preaching. I wasn't like him. Okay. You did what I'm saying? I was just, because I had models of dudes who was, they still kept their sauce, but they love God. You see what I'm saying?

If I'm being honest with you, I don't know your brother that well, but I feel like I was probably like your brother, because when your brother got up to do his Hall of Fame speech, man, that was, that to me is the way you, you walk your faith out. it ain't it what it didn't feel like he was like now everybody open up to the book of 32 song you did what I'm saying yeah he just was like being real was a real moment he shared his love for his brother he talked about what God did you know what I'm saying I'm like man you got to love that

you got to respect that yeah you wouldn't know that if you just met him you wouldn't know that yeah and I don't remember when he actually became but he was always you know you know we like Ocho said, we were actually junior deacons. We had to lead devotional service. We had to lead prayer. So it wasn't just, and you know, we couldn't get up there and say no happy Easter day. We had to say this long, long speech that took at least a minute, minute and a half. Or we had to pray or we had to do something.

So our grandfather, you know, kept us very, very involved in the church. And, but like you said, I kind of went away from that because it's like when you make somebody do something all the time. So we had to go to Bible study. We had to go to choir practice. We got to go to this. And we at church, you know, every single Sunday. And we at Bible study and we at devotional.

And we add all this stuff. I'm like, man, as soon as I ain't got to go, I ain't going. He kept like, when I went to college, I was like, well, I ain't got no church. Even though there's a church right across the street from the school. Yeah. Yeah. He, like, went to college and found the church. And still, and went.

Wow. And went. and went and i remember i remember i remember i remember well yeah he got me he got me a gift had in a had in a nice little box and everything i was like oh brodo hook it up we both in the lead yeah um he left it at my house at at the house in glibber at my grandmother's house in and liby say uh my sister liby called liby'll call a buck she say spanky left your uh your your birthday grift on in the room i was like okay it was a bible you thought it was going to be you thought you're going to put you with some ice he's some to this day as a matter of fact i still and then

what i thought about it's like man bible Denver broncos shana sharp number 80 got all the stuff on it i mean it's like it's one of my it's one of my most prized possession because i know he gave it to me the sincerity in which he gave it to me that's what that's what meant the most he could have bought me anything could have bought me a car could have bought me a chain but it was this like this and uh that that bible means that bible means a lot to me and i he still he still calls he's like to the day he'll call out of the blue and i don't know how he knows god is giving him an especial ability because when i really need it because he can man he can he can He can get through to me when a lot of other people can't.

And he's just like, hey, get in your Bible. Yeah. But he gave you what was precious to him. You know what I'm saying? He gave you what's pressure to him. And now I have to just take a pause for a second because you said something and it hit me. You said, you said buck and spanky, right? Yeah.

Yeah. It hit me. Y'all countryed in a month. We grow. We definitely grew up, I grew up in rural South Georgia. We had about, we had 3,500 people. We had about 300 people, 350 people in my high school. It has, I think, 58, 59 people in my graduating class.

So, yeah, we, we, we, Well, you got somebody, somebody black walk around. You're still calling them Buck in the 1900s. Bro, I mean, you get a nickname. If you're in the South, you got a nickname. Oh, that's your name. That's your name for life. A lie.

Even in your obituary, they're going to put your real name, but they're going to put your nickname in parentheses. What was your nickname? I didn't have, I mean, I didn't really, my, they called me, no, no, no, most of the time they call me, they called me Chateau. Why? Because I like to find a thing when I was growing up. I was all my money on the Iza shirt, yeah, I was spent all my money on the Aiz shirt. I might have $30. dollars my brother would go get like three shirts i'm gonna get one shirt so they started calling

be chateau but uh but you know what it's funny that it's it's it's funny that you say that and your experience because everybody how they how they they receive god when they receive god everybody goes through everybody goes through goes through something and you not to have gone through anything traumatic you said hey you just felt it was that it was that time he had spoke through you earlier you kind of like started trying like you all gung-ho like nah i'm put that aside because i'm i'm i'm back i'm wild and out so he ain't pleased with me right now but guess what you came right back yeah came back had to i you know i had my season you know what i mean my childhood was crazy you know my mama was great but i just did a bunch of stupid stuff you know

growing up and and so i had a lot of trauma i hadn't processed anyway right so for For me, it was like trying to work through that. And it was like, some stuff is like, yes, you need God, you need the Bible, you need prayer, but you also need therapy, my dog. You know what I'm saying? You need some extra help to process some of the stuff that I was going through. And the music was a therapy for me for a season, just like I had to get this stuff off my chest and just, you know what I mean, let people, you know, let me, it helped heal.

It was healing for me. So that's why, you know, but that was my outlet, you know what I'm saying? And it was kind of like, you know, I never had, now the crazy part, I'm 6'4, you know what I mean? My dad is 6, 6, 5, my brother's 6, 7, and, you know, we didn't grow up my pops. If we would have grew up my pops, I feel like if I would have had, he was like a playground all-star. If I would have had him, I felt like somebody would have pushed me towards. My mama didn't know sports.

The coach was like, well, you should let me take him. She's like, no, I don't like that. I feel like, you know, I might have had a different path, a different life. You may not have heard my music. You may, you know what I'm saying. You may have seen me, you know. That ain't what God intended for you, bro. Exactly.

You did what I'm saying? Exactly. So he's going to put you on the road where you need to be when you need to be there. Yeah. All right. With me. Yeah. I've been in the studio.

You know, I have a background in gospel as well. I was, I sang in the junior choir. I sang with the senior choir. So if at any point, you know, you want to work together and, I mean, I'm here. I'm here. Let me tell you so, man. I know hip hop and I know gospel. And we can.

We heard. Yeah, we can intertwine it too. And we can do some, we could do God's work. I'm a, I'm a pray about that. Because, you know what I'm saying? Let me pray about that. Please, please pray for it. I mean, I'm going to pray about that.

I could, I could. Let's just start off on just you being like my financial advisor. Okay. You didn't get what I'm saying? We can start there. See, that's why I love you. That's why I love you because it's about baby steps. It's about people you walk.

So I can help you in the area of being financially savvy and financially conscious, my brother. That's right. And then we can go on tour. Because God gave me the money to be a good steward with it. You know what I'm saying? No. And if I don't, you got to have, you see, everybody need coaches. Yes.

You know what I'm saying? So I did, it's like, you can coach me on how to not spend the bag. Right. You know what I mean? Hey, listen, I'm going to tell you one thing. Yep. I got a sister named Ruth, and I'm going to tell you the truth. Hey, we're going to make magic, right?

We're going to make magic. I'm with you, man. I'll wish you. Because, listen, I, you know what I'm saying? I'm tight. And then I'll be, you know, sometimes I'll be hanging with rappers and rappers be wanting to spend money. And I'm like, man, y'all are really. just be out here. I just,

I didn't, I need to hold on to my. You feel me? Hey, as a matter of fact, this is, all right, I'm going to get a little serious now. I'm not even playing. All right. By finances. Okay. That's my area expertise. Uh-huh.

I'm brilliant in that area when it comes to saving and finding deals and stuff like that. But then I'm going to need you to talk to me. Okay. Okay. Come on. Listen, marriage. And you're 20. Not having the discipline you had. So, you could, boom, coach your boy up in that area because I'm trying to get to the

promised land. Yeah, I think I can help you, bro. Yeah, I think I can help you, bro. I'm not even, yeah, your problem is you don't been to the promised land far too many times. Right. You get what I put down. Now you, you wandering in the desert right now, my brother, you got to get out the desert. You see what I'm saying?

You got to get out the day. You got to quit striking the rock to get water out of it. You did what I'm saying. let the Lord bring you the living water. Right. You dig what I'm saying. Well, he bought it to me, but this time I want to make sure I'm drinking it the right way.

Okay. Stay with me. Stay with you. I'm with you. You know what I help me understand this, because I think it's, I think it's going to, it's extremely hard. If you think the, if you've really never been monogamous in a relationship, you think the first time that you're going to be monogamous is when you get married.

I think that's that you're seeing yourself up for failure yeah yeah go ahead go yeah I'm gonna let you take it away because you know I'm gonna say you need some training wheels you need some training wheels yeah no real talk yeah I know this from experience yes because I think people think that marriage solves but it does not no no because you if you look in to find wholeness in another person you're gonna fail every time. You know what I'm saying? People will be saying, oh, I want somebody to complete me. Well, if you don't feel like you're a complete person, you don't need to be getting nobody else. No, you feel what I'm saying? You are half a person right now? You need to chill and get yourself

whole. Happiness is not something, it's not something you find. Happens is something you create. Yeah, man. I think not someone else or found in someone else. Yeah. Like, like, you know, know, I got married young because I knew I was like, I didn't have all the answers. I didn't know exactly everything. I knew I wanted to follow God. I wanted to do it the right way. I was blessed, you know what I'm saying? I was young and I made, you know, a decision based off of what I knew at the time.

I was blessed to get somebody who's amazing. But I will say from coming from being a young, but listen, I was a, I pledged Kappa Alpha Versailles at Middle Tennessee State University, it was, it's a wild situation. I can imagine. Yeah, it was a wild situation. You did what I'm saying. We're going to TSU. We're going to Fisk.

I'm going to Texas. I'm going to Prairie View. I was like, it was kind of crazy. So what I had to do was I had to develop some discipline as a single man before I could really jump into a relationship. You know what I'm saying? you got to get it under control yeah that's right that's right yeah so i had to develop some discipline as a single man and realize hey i can chill i can let me just be you know uh uh uh uh abstain and learn to

just uh let me walk with god and i felt like you know i was running my race and then i start running my race i'm running after the lord i'm just doing what i'm supposed to do get my my life together my finance together i'm focused i'm running and then I hear somebody running next and I said, oh shoot, she's trying and she fast. You know what I'm saying? See, that's how it happened to me.

That's just like that because I were running. You hear me? And before I looked up, I looked up, you know, somebody was running with me. So what I did right away, what I did right away is that when it got baptized because the last one started weighing off.

This man is crazy. I'm just telling you. So it was, for me, it was a, it was a mental reset. It was a mental reset. So I've been on point for, you know, for some time since this person, like, join massage. So I'm like, boom, I want to, I want to go to the promised land where you at, though. Okay. Okay.

So, boom, that's my little therapy. Now my man said it started wearing off, like the water started drying up on. Yeah, yeah. I had to take another dip. This man is wild. What do you, what do you think thus far? You're still it. You're still young man.

What do you think your greatest accomplishment is thus far? Is it your faith? Your walk with God, the studio album, the success. What do you think your greatest accomplishment? He goes, it sure ain't my walk with God. My walk with God, boy, boy, I'm going to make it to heaven limping. He didn't have to carry me.

You know what I say? I always tell people, listen, I ain't a Christian because I got it all together. I'm a Christian because I'm weak and I need a savior, boy. Yeah, boy, he didn't have to carry me in there, boy. So those footprints, those set of footprints, that's him carrying you. That's not you walking alone. Facts, big facts.

Yeah. I mean, you know, you get. a renewed mind you get a new nature you know you you you start following in as he leads and guys but you know you're still human and you got to wrestle through your humanity but for me you know I didn't have all of the things number one albums uh success all the trappings of success I didn't have all them things and and I thought that was going to make me feel accomplished I thought that was going to bring me a sense of satisfaction. What I realize is, it's never enough. You only climb a mountain, get to the top to realize, oh, there's another mountain. You know what I'm

saying? It's like, oh, man, it's just, and then you get to the top of one, and now you fighting everybody else trying to get up there so you can keep your spot. Like, you know what I mean? And it's just kind of like, think about it. If you think about, you get yourself a Super Bowl ring, as soon as the next season start, what you're doing? Trying to get another one. You know what I'm saying? chasing another one. So I feel like the greatest accomplishment for me, if I'm being honest, is being a present father in my kids' lives

because I never had that. Right. That's the, that's, it's breaking a cycle. I don't know, my mama don't know her dad, or she knows her dad, she didn't grow up with her dad. I don't know if he grew up with his dad. My dad didn't grow up with his dad. I didn't grow up with my dad.

So for me, it's breaking that cycle. And now, my, kids are being raised with a father present in their lives. You know what I mean? Like, I'm going to be the first grandfather that's going to exist. Like, I never knew a grandfather, like a biological grandfather. I never knew that. My mama ain't never knew a grandfather.

So I'm going to be the first grandfather that any generation in our family has seen in generations. Wow. It's crazy. Yeah. Man, Lecrae, thank you for stopping by, man. We really appreciate your time. Much continued success.

Four-time Grammy Award-winning artist. He's an author. He's an activist. He's an actor. His 10th studio album, Reconstruction with album features from T.I. Killamack, John Bellin, and Friday. Man, continue success. Congratulations on your walk with God.

We all can use that. And trust me. Trust me. Amen. I know you know. So listen, man, before you dip, I just going to say that, I was going to say that, man. Listen, I always tell people this. I say it all time, and I'm telling y'all as well, man.

Man, be encouraged because if you woke up today, that mean God ain't done right in your story. So, man, you know, keep pressing, bro. Keep pressing. Like, we ain't no, like, people throw people away. God don't throw nobody away. That's why my album called Reconstruction. You know what I'm saying?

God don't throw people away. God figure out how to reconstruct them into something better than they was. So, man, I just want to tell you that, man, be encouraged. Like, you know, you're valuable. You got worth purpose. And man, listen, you know, we're going to continue rocking with you supporting you praying for you and man you know I love y'all man appreciate y'all thank y'all for having me on the nightcap you did thank you bro I appreciate that man continue success yeah much love

look great chat man that was that was unbelievable conversation oh cho oh that's one of the best conversations I think we've had we've had a lot of people come on here and have a conversation but I think that's one of our better conversations I know I definitely needed to hear a lot of what he was saying yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm Dan, he's Ty. Hello. And we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast. College football season is here, and you know what that means.

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needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community. When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier, and we watched Ottawa against Chile, pouring rain, just watching the fans jumping up and down. I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life.

Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow. Now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Ocho, the big news of the day when a video emerged this morning, Roger Jackson unleashed a violent attack on a psycho stew, rendering him unconscious during a wrestling event in Los Angeles. LAPD confirmed to TMZ that officers were called to the wrestling show Saturday night, took a police report and have launched an investigation into the incident. The shocking moment unfolded at a private Knox Pro Academy Wrestling event.

Rajah knocked out Psycho Stu, then continued pummeling him long after he was down. Rajah's dad, Rampage Johnson, put out a statement, I want to clear up misinformation about my son, Raja. I've been confirmed that the wrestler Stuart Smith, aka Psycho Stu, is awake and stable. Raja was unexpectedly hit in the head of the head by him moments before the Smith's match. Raja was told that he could get his payback in the ring. I thought it was a part of the show. It was bad judgment and a work that went wrong. Raja is an MMA fighter, not a pro wrestler, and he had no business being involved in an event like this.

I don't condone my son's action at all. He suffered a concussion from sparring only days ago and had no business doing anything remotely close to physical contact. As a father, I'm deeply concerned with his health and his well-being of Mr. Smith. That being said, I'm very upset that any kind of any of this happened, but my main concern now that Mr. Smith will make a speedy recovery, I apologize on behalf of the kick for this situation. Video later emerged of the incident that happened hours before. Let's take a look at this on show. He's not a fucking worker, bro.

Yeah, what the f*** was that? You're good, you're good, you're good, you're good. You don't sell it? Yeah, he's not a fucking worker, bro. What the fuck was, hold on, hold on, hold on. I don't play that shit, bro. I'm sorry, we're going. I know, I know you will.

We're good. I will fuck him up, bro. Hey, I'm, I'm confused. What did he do to his head? Did he hit him? Did he smack him? I mean, it was supposed to be a prop. So I guess they were supposed to be rehearsing.

Okay, okay. And they were supposed to take this into the, just like, it's scripted, just like WWE. Yeah, like wrestling, yes. Yeah, yeah. And so I guess he suffered, his dad, rampage said he suffered a concussion earlier, I guess, I guess of a sparring session. Right.

Because I saw, I saw that video where he got kicked in the head and he kind of stumbled a little bit. Oh, I see. I saw that when I saw that I saw that on Twitter okay okay okay and then you see a situation like this right you got to be careful you know being putting people in situations that they're not used to right because so now they're telling him so now you get your opportunity to get back well he thought he was getting back because he picked the guy up and he's you know he power slammed him and the first thing to hit was the psychos dude's head so once he slammed him he's out right he's out and is is that where he kept punching dude I saw, and I guess they thought it was a part of the script

because nobody intervened. Right. And then they realized like, nah, this ain't a part of the script. Right. That's tough. That's tough. It is.

It is. When it comes to wrestling, obviously it wouldn't be anything real. I mean, that's unfortunate. That's unfortunate. Dude is okay now, though, right? That's what Rampage says that he's awake. But I'm just going by what Rampage said.

So it's father. I don't know. That's tough. man that's tough that's tough i'm not sure i mean why he would go on with the fight if he felt insulted you know uh right prop at the beginning he didn't he didn't have to do it i think they told him so oh cho you know he went through with it because they okay now you get your payback yeah so he was but see and the thing is there's no payback to get if it's not real if it's not real and it's scripted there's no payback to get you you just you should you just

call it off of anything but i don't think they thought it would get to this you know what i'm saying it's like you know uh he snapped there's no where there's there's no way around it you hear stories of somebody blacking out right just like just going crave going haywire he snapped he did because that's when you what uh uh and and in law enforcement that's what they call overkill yes sir when somebody when somebody gets stabbed a hundred times. Yes. A lot of time the knife is still going into the same wound.

That's overkill. What he did was he snapped. He just lost his ability to stop. Damn, man. That's, as fuck. It's a very tough situation for all parties involved.

Hopefully, uh, uh, uh, uh, Rajat, you know, gets the, the assistance that he needs. Hopefully, uh, uh, Psycho Stu, he makes a full and speedy recovery. But this is a very, very, very, very unfortunate situation. Vikings trade quarterback Sam Howe to the Eagles signed quarterback Carson Wins. Ocho, do you like Carson Wins mentoring J.J. McCarthy? Yeah, yeah.

I mean, Carson Wins, once who had success, a lot of success with the Eagles before Jalen Hertz took over. customers was extremely good and very promising before tearing his ACL if you if you don't remember so I think him mentoring mentoring JJ could be could be good could be good and it'd be a good backup as well for JJ McCarthy so I think I think that's pretty dope and that's it's it's also a player where JJ doesn't have to be looking over his shoulder as well right I think that also bothers I'm not saying Jay's the veteran but players like that second quarterback can you want a long leash you don't want a short one exactly I throw interception and I'm coming to the sideline

the coach shaking his head and you see the quarterback on the sideline warming up warming up yeah yeah that's a situation where he doesn't have to worry about that which can be can be kind of tricky in sense so that's something jay doesn't have to worry about I think jada McCarthy is going to be fine as long as as long as brother jason jason is healthy Jordan addison has to what what two or three games Three games. He'll be fine. Aaron Jones, they got Hawkinson.

They got Hawkinson. J.T. is going to be all right. He's going to be all right. ESPN analyst Sam Acho criticized Barry's quarterback Caleb Williams for wearing his socks halfway, calling it sloppy and lack of leadership.

Another thing is a little thing, but a big thing. Even just some of the uniform stuff. Look at the socks halfway down. That means nothing. Come on, Acho. Come on, baby. Come on. death. It means nothing. It doesn't. It means nothing. You know, wearing your socks high,

wearing your socks low means nothing. Come on, we're doing too much now. We just, come on, come on. I guess if it's an opportunity to criticize, I don't know. Like I said, I like Caleb Williams. I think he's going to be good. I like him in this offense. You know, obviously he's going to have to do a better job of getting the ball out of his hand, realizing that he can't make every play. I love they surround him with talent. You go out, they take a receiver, I think, at the second round, they got DJ more. They got a dunezate in in the first round, pairing with cold commit. They've rebuilt the offensive line.

I like what they've done in Chicago to help Caleb Williams reach his potential. Now it's going to be incumbent on him to reach that potential because they've given them a hedge, which is an offensive line to protect him, and they've given him skill position players to make his job. He don't have to lift as much as he normally, he normally would have to lift. Yeah, absolutely. But I agree with you,

I'm not getting caught up into no socks or something like that. It's not that big of a deal. He nitpicking. We're nitpicking. Like, come on now. Come on now. Yeah. We talk about socks.

Lamar Jackson needs 500 Russian yard this season to pass Cam Newton for the most 500 plus Russian yard seasons by a quarterback in NFL history. Does he get it, though, Chau? Absolutely. We talk about we talk about Lamar Jackson. We talked about young bull from Pompano.

We talked about young bull that went to Boynton Beach High School. One of the better quarterbacks and not just NFL, the AFC North as well. He ain't going to get it, absolutely. I would love to see and repeat what he did last year of 41 touchdown season, 4,000 plus something yards. I don't even know how many restaurants. yards he had last year, but he had one hell

of a season. He had an MVP season. Unfortunately, he didn't get the MVP, but I'm sure he's probably going to repeat what he did last year. As much as I love Lamar Jackson, as much as I love the Ravens. The Bengals win in the AFC North, though. They're not.

I just had to throw that in there, too. You know what? Talk to me. I'm not going to be surprised that Lamar Jackson rushed for 10,000 yards. where is he at right now you think he's going to get 10,000 he's going to end his career with 40, 50,000 passing yards and 10th he's going to be like LeBron like LeBron got fit going to have like 40 plus

thousand points right and then he's going to have like you know this many rebounds 10,000 rebounds 10,000 assists Lamar Jackson is going to have 40,000 50,000 passing yards and 10,000 rush yards something that we're not going to see again I don't I don't think he'll get 10,000 plus passing yards, I think as he gets older. You mean rush yards? Rush yards. I think as he gets older and the skill being able to run the ball deteriorates, I think he makes

up for it in other areas, which is why he's gotten so well and so good and polished in the passing game. How many yards, how many rush yards Lamar got? He probably over $6,000 now. He got $6,100 right now, Ocho. Yeah, but nah.

Another 4,000. That's a whole lot of rushing on. Oh, Cho, think about it, Ocho. That man had $800 last year and literally like nothing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's like, I mean, he,

Lamar came out in 20, 2018. Lamar came out in 2018, right? Yeah. Think about that, Ocho. Yeah. Man, eight years deep. Mm-hmm. You're right?

Yeah, he's getting 10. He's getting 10 bands. His game has changed. Game is changed. He gets 10, man. I don't even see, I don't even see, see Lamar, I mean, honestly, even with the Russian yards, I don't even see him as a running quarterback. He's a throw of the ball first if you, if you notice how his game has changed and evolved

over time. Yeah, he's got better. Lamar Jackson is running the ball if he just has to and has no other goddamn choice. Yeah, we know, look, in order for him to, to this office to go and for him, for them to win, he had to evolve. He just couldn't be what he once was. Right, right. And he's gotten better and better every year at throwing the football.

They've given him added weapons. So, yeah, I don't. Yeah, he's going to get better and better. And all I said is, look, if he can get his arm to be 80% of his legs, he'd be the best quarterback in the league. Yeah, for shit. Now he damn than 90% of his arm down to 90% of his legs. Leg, yeah.

I'm Dan. He's Ty. Hello. And we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast. College football season is here, and you know what that means. Your team is going to break your heart three times, probably before Halloween. Uh-huh, but fear not. The Solid Verbal will be right there with you through every soul-crushing loss, an impossible comeback. Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport.

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podcast. The U.S. Open is here. And on my podcast, good game with Sarah Spain. I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. The predictions will we see a first time winner and the pressure. Billy Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus, the stories and events off the court and of course the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean, listen, the whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans, whether you play tennis or not. Tennis is full of compelling stories of late.

Have you heard about Icon Venus Williams' recent wild card bids? Or the young Canadian, Victoria Mboko, making a name for herself. How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an Iheart women's sports production in partnership with deep blue sports and entertainment on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Check out Behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club.

We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved. San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team. We need veteran players and we need young players. Like you're building a team from scratch. and so the succession plan of long-term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community. When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier

and we watched Ottawa against Chile, pouring rain, just watching the fans jumping up and down. I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life. Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow. Now on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

That's what make you so goddamn dangerous, man. Yeah. Ocho, Draft Kings, rank every AFC and NFC Y-Receiver duo heading into the upcoming season. Here they go. Hold on, hold on. Hey, Ash, send me that ass. You might have sent it already.

There it is. There it is. Hold on. Here we go. Okay. You see who number one is? Hey, chat. chat do y'all see who number one is

huh the team that missed the playoffs last year that ain't got nothing to do with what we're talking about I just said do you see who number one is yeah we see that okay wait a minute how to hell okay oh no

oh this order this order this order is a no no okay tell what you got for one where the hell is golfing and Amon Ross St. Brown? That's the AFC. Oh, that's NFC you mean. This is the AFC.

You're looking at the AFC. My bad. I thought it was a hole. My bad. I'm glad you said something. They didn't say we ranked every AFC quarterback wire receiver duo. You told Ashton sent it to you. It's up there on your screen and you got it.

I know I'm looking at it. I'm looking at it. Okay. Well, wait a minute. Well, no, I think Lamar, Lamar and Lamar and and zay should be two lamar and zay should be two lad mcconkey and herbert should be three oh wait a minute hell no man c j stroud c j shroud and nico collins should be before pat mahomes and rishie rice rice hey boy this is good right here this is good this is good this is good so at two i'm putting

and Zay Flowers. And then I'm going Nico Collins and C.J. Shroud. Then Ladd McConkey and Justin Herbert. Because Ladd McConkey and Justin Herbert, LaDarious McConkey. Boy, they'd be cutting up out there. Look where they got your tea. Look where they got Miami.

Yeah. And they only doing that because they're only doing that because two and Reek had a down year. They'll be back this year. They'll be back this year. Hey, Josh Allen. And Khalil Shakur. So after, after, after, after Herbert, then then I'm going Mahomes and Rashid Rice and then Josh Allen Shakur. And after that, the, the order is pretty much, you got some people that haven't even

done anything yet. Yeah, you got some people that haven't done anything yet. yeah in the nfc okay there we go look here we go let me see where the nfc at where the nfc at okay here we go here we go okay a jrown that's right um whoa whoa whoa for one i'm okay with jay lhers and a jrown but with ed at two At two, I'm going to... Are you sure Jaylor Hurts and A.J. Brown is better than golf in

Elmond Rock St. Brown? Are you sure? Well, hell, if that's the case, then Matt Stafford be long in front of everybody. Matt Stopping the pool will be long in front of everybody. That's what we're doing. Are we sure? It gets interesting. Yeah, it does. It does. It's a good one. It's a good one.

And then when you think about it, you think about Jalen Brown, I'm talking about Jalen Brown. You think about Jalen Hurts and A.J. Brown? They didn't put up gargantuous numbers. No. They didn't put up gargantuous numbers. But if we, if we, if anything, I mean.

Jay and golf and Armand Run, St. Brown do. It did. And so did Pook and the Kua in Math, in Mass, effort. And I like, I like, I like, I like, Jane Daniel, but I don't think him and McLaurin belong in front of golf in, uh, no, and, um, and, um, and, Rock. Yeah.

I can make a case, I can make a, I can make a case that almond raw and golf should be won. Mike Evans Mike Evans and Baker Mayfield They're low Being at 6 is way too low Being at 6 is way too low And obviously

Justin Jefferson and Jay J.J. They didn't have an opportunity To play together yet Right So I understand them being that low Who would you go first? Who would you put first? Honestly me

me chat i chat tell me what y'all think i would put golf i'll put golf in the arboros st brown and then second i would put matthew stafford and pukinacua i would put i would put i would put i would have i would have i would have i might i might i'm gonna put baker mayfield and mike ever than my top five yeah absolutely i would put deck and cd third and then fourth i'd have baker mayfield and mike evans Then I go. I heard it's a day, yeah, absolutely. Or before Hurts and JJ, I might put McDaniels and McLaurin first

because, I mean, eh. After that, it's, after that's a toss-up. Damn, that's, I like this. I like this. But number one, I'm definitely going with, but, uh, golfing on my raw. Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. Hell, pooping the cool went crazy last year, too. So that's why I put in the second. Ocho, what would you change about this list? These are the fastest players based on end-game speed. You got Tier 1. You got Time. You got Rique, Darryne, Bullitt Bob Hayes, Chris Johnson.

Then you got Bo, Randy, Rahim Moster Deshawn Jackson, Devin Hester, Joey Galloway. Then you got Willie Galt, Trenton Holliday, Cliff Branch, Mike Vick, Marquis Goodwin, God, Goodwin.

Dante Hall, Ron Brown. Ron Brown can run. People don't realize that. Then you got John Ross, Ike Taylor, Jacoby Ford. Jacobi Ford can run. Mike Wallace, Mike Wallace could fly. Champ Bailey, Jamal Charles, P, Julio Jones.

Then you got Hershey Walker, DRC, Xavier Worthy, Percy Harvard, Adrian Peterson, Barry Sanders, O'Dell Lamar. Then you got Charles Woodson, Tyler Lockett, Cordial Patterson, Neil Miles, Jonathan Taylor, Jameson Williams, Fabian Washington, Rod Woodson. Are you missing anybody, Ocho? She didn't have had James Jett on here Gary's Hayward Bay Did he say is he on there Nope I forgot they got Bethel Johnson

Who played with the Patriots And I forgot who else he played for He's another Burner Amad Carroll Remember Amad Carroll played Yeah So Greenback

Jesus Christ that boy could run Yeah Yeah Ali Um I'm trying to think who out about burners burners burners I can't lie that top list that top list I mean Bob Hayes run a gold medal so it's hard to it's hard to argue him Derek Green never lost the NFL fastest man

we know what Rick Chris Johnson had the fastest 40 time 424 and we know prime yeah but the time is time yeah the funny thing about it is Randy Moss ran 422 and people don't even realize that. He ran 4-2 when he was there at Florida State. Before he left to go to Marshall, Randy Marsh ran 4-2 at 6-4.

So I really think Randy Moore should be in that... Top one? No, top one? Yeah. I think Ron Brown. Wasn't Ron Brown. Didn't Ron Brown? I think Ron Brown was on the Olympic team in 84.

Didn't Ron Brown went a... Wasn't he on Olympic team in 84? With Dada and Sam Grady, Carl Lewis You know what You know what's the most impressive about You were on a relay team did he? Did he?

Yeah I thought so Ron Brown could fly Everybody on his list is impressive But I don't think People understand Watching most highlights It don't do you no justice Unless you were able to

See that up close and personal Because he started off he started off gliding and you don't really know he's moving until you're trying to catch him or he doesn't do that hand up and he's running by you. But see, I think Hester was more

shifted than fast. Oh, no, Heston was fast too now. Devin Heston? University of Miami, Devin Heston? Yeah. Oh, boy, he was fast and shifting. No, he couldn't. I mean, he wasn't faster than Willie Gault

or holiday. I mean, you got to understand. Once you get past 4-3 and up, I mean, you fast as hell. Yeah. Which makes most of the people that's on this list that special. Because not only can you go in a straight line, but you can also transition. You had great lateral movement. You were able to stop and restart and get right back up to top speed.

Everybody can't do that. Most people are just fast and a straight line. Everybody on this list can actually play football. they're good at Oh yeah Yeah Think about how many track runners Can just run in a straight line

You put them on the football field It won't be the same Yeah Well Neil Maher didn't do too well at football Because he couldn't read Manor zone He had learned He got to learn how to set that thing down Who was the track runner that played at Florida

I mean that ran track at Florida University of Florida but played football too Jeff Demps Jeff Demp's Jeff Demp Hey he was fast as hell boy yeah all of got look Tennessee Willie God from Tennessee

Stanley Morgan was at Tennessee who's the other receiver Anthony Miller Tennessee A them guys can run the only way they really couldn't run at Tennessee was slim pickings but all the rest of them guys they kind of like the Ohio State guys

you know Ohio State how they how they all those receivers can run that's how Tennessee used to be okay damn grady anybody anybody uh we miss a nocho anybody we leave up that's what i would try i were trying to think not really that's a that's a good goddamn list boy yeah that's bob hayes changed the game he made teams everybody did you had to do away with he brought he brought the zone coverage in because can you imagine trying to the coverage try to the world's fastest man

you try to play man-to-man on it. Ain't happening. Some speed on there, boy. Warner Brothers acquires the script for a Kobe Bryant movie based on the 1996 draft. The new film will focus on Kobe's 1996 draft day and is tentatively titled with the eighth pick. The eighth pick in the draft was held by the Nets,

coached by recent Massachusetts, and coach current Arkansas boss, John Kalapari. The New Jersey was reportedly eager to drive Bryant only to pass under considerable external pressure. Ocho, are you excited about the first biop about Kobe Bean Brad? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I think it's going to be dope to relive and retell the story of how it all started.

We know how it ended. as far as when it come to his career, but let's talk about how it all started. You know, how the Mamba mentality came about in the beginning. I think

that I think it's going to be dope. It's going to be dope for me because I don't know his whole story. I know the finished product that I got to see on ESPN. You know, I got to see that part. You know, I obviously had many conversations

with Kobe before Before we passed, I had an opportunity to go sit at court side with my son. A little CJ, when CJ was a, I mean, CJ might have been maybe what, nine, 10 years old. I'm excited. I'm excited for that. There's so many different layers to Kobe story that I don't know about, especially when it comes to the draft process during those days. I was still in high school, huh? Yeah.

I still got the text. uh before he passed i texted i uh deemned him december 28th 2019 i still have it still got it damn i just yeah i'm definitely going i'm definitely tuning into that one definitely going to tune into that one all right ocho it's time for our final segment of the evening it's time for uh q and a damn man I remember um I just posted a picture for Kobe's birthday remember Kobe and I we sat down in news cafe but we sat there about two hours man mm-hmm sat there about two hours man talked about life in general at this time I was when

I was this disgruntled as they call it when I was with Cincinnati and um I had gotten in trouble. Oh, man, it was a great conversation. No, it was, I'm not going to disclose it to here now, but it's one of those conversations, like when I sat with Denzel Courtside that one time, it was on my head. It was one of those conversations.

It was dope. It was dope. Something you'll never forget. Yes, it was more of a lashing. a lashing out for the acting out in the manner that I did understanding that

understanding that there's no way I was going to win that battle against that power structure. So why are you even trying? In a sense. Right. Triple X cop sanity says Uncle Ocho,

did Ocho pay your money yet? If not, Ocho got to I'm gonna do what Yonis do. I'm gonna do what I put a Yonis on it. What? Hit me in the back of the head? Hey, I'm gonna block that. I'm gonna block that.

Hey, he didn't know it was coming. Oh. Tea to the real. Salute my brother Lucre. We're not connected by gang or fraternity no more. But Holy Trinity, connection is worth it. And forever praise God, one hundred. y'allely this dude is a clown such a phony i would rather take dmx over him if i want to listen to rap music to get closer to god

huh well i mean what the dude to do to you oh man people man y'all need to y'all need to chill man you But people like him. I like the conversation that we had. And the man said he said he wasn't perfect. Yeah. I think sometimes, when we talk about religion

and somebody's trying to walk with God, people automatically assume that the guy, that he or she are perfect. Right. No. And that's not what that means. He said that too, huh? Right.

He said he's walking with God because he's not perfect and he needs that savior. uh coli 55 said why was the fast you takes your door out but felt that but i guess he said i feel the need to keep de shan in his last year am i tripping no they need to they definitely need to uh that's what that's what we were asking yesterday why would they take chadour out considering if they're going to keep four quarterbacks chadour is going to be one of the four quarterbacks that they keep not snoop huntley that's what i look i don't got no problem you want to take him out but i think shoduel would have been

better served being in that situation because there's a possibility that situation could come up and he happens to be the quarterback of the cleveland browns right that's what i think I think that's what the consensus is, was, is that a guy that you're going to keep on the roster, put him in a situation that he might actually see come game time. Yeah. Look, Deshaun's going to be on the team. He has $92 million still guaranteed this year and next year, 25, 26.

So I don't see a scenario where they're going to cut him out there. They'll probably keep him on IR for the entirety of this year. He tore the key leads late last, and then he ended up re-tearing. So he's not playing this season. King Grave said, if you're both in your prime, could Chad beat you in a one-on-one tight-in versus receiver? Look, I can't backpedal.

I could never back-pedal. That's why I ain't played. Well, I was played safety in high school, but I was mainly a lineback in a wide receiver. Well, I could back pedal. I would have locked your ass up. I could back pedal. I would lock you up.

I'm telling you right now. You wouldn't have caught one ball. We talk about 10 reps, and I let you have John Elway. I let you have John Elway, and I play, matter of fact, I ain't going to play. I'm going to play man. I'm going to play in your face. I'm going to play in your face. And I'm going to put my palm.

Hold on, listen to me. I'm going to put my palm right between the eight and the four. And I guarantee you you won't get off the ball. Telling me, I'm too light. I ain't too light. That's the same thing Ray Lewis said. You saw what happened to him? Yeah, I did.

Captain Kurt said, what's up? and Ocho, who's a better one-on-one rivalry in the NFL than Ray Lewis and Eddie George? That's a good one. I wouldn't, I wouldn't consider them a rivalry. They did play against each other. They got some good hits on each other. I wouldn't consider they're much, much better rivalries than the Tennessee Titans. No, I think they say one-on-one, Eddie and Ray. So is it Derell Revis and Ocho, Dorel Revis and Randi, Dorel Revis and T-O. Is it? I think. It's a one-on-one. Is it? time and Mike Irvin. You see, when we talk about rivalries,

it's players that have that continuously play against each other over the hell. You know, you want to know, to me, the greatest rivalry of all, I mean, there's some good ones, but for me, Mike Evans. Yeah, Marshael Lelman. Now that's a rivalry.

Yeah. Now, that's a rivalry that we were excited to and couldn't wait because they were division opponents. Yep. And we knew they were going to face each other twice here. And they literally did not like each other. Right. That's a rivalry.

I mean, I got played against Revis twice. You know, two weeks, back to back. That's it. Never saw him again. That's really not a rivalry. DJ underscore Dilly. I know it sounds morbid and sad, but the Cowboys will start winning again

after Jerry Joan passes on to the other side. Well, I hope that ain't no time soon, DJ. Am. Dr. Frank Yale Bellamy said, Hey, fam. Get back. Ocho, did you get a chance to attend any soccer? I didn't get a chance to attend any soccer games. Was busy going back and forth to concert. Love y'all guys. Glad you made it back. But safely, Dr. Frankie. Appreciate that. We always know you probably was chimed in all the way overseas. Jordan B. High As Uncle Ocho, tomorrow's my 24th birthday. Just wanted to see if I can get a shout out. Yes, Jordan. Happy early 24th birthday. Hopefully you got something special playing and enjoy it. Make sure you enjoy it because you're never going to be 24 again. So enjoy that very, very special day and many, many more to come.

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