Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Unc responds to Shaq

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to NBA Hall of Famer Shaquille O'Neal's Instagram response to Unc criticizing his comments about Shai Gilgeous-Alexander deserving MVP over Nikola Jokic and much much more.02:52 - Shawnie and Shaq16:30 - Luka Media Video26:18 - Marlon Waynes and his Mother29:05 - Shaq responds to Unc45:30 - Waiter goes Viral for Popeyes Coupons47:55 - Q and Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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in a memoir, Undefeated Changing the Rules and Winning on My Own Term, she wrote, looking back I don't know if I ever really loved him I was really loved him. I was really in love with the man over the course of their relationship,

which began in the late 90s and ultimately ended in 2009 when she filed for separation. The couple struggled with infidelity, which Shaq admitted in his 2011 memoir. Shaq posted a cryptic message

on social media the next day. Shawnee wrote, I understand, Shaq wrote, I understand. I wouldn't have been in love with me either. Wishing you all the best.nee wrote, I understand. Shaq wrote, I understand. I wouldn't have been in love with me either. Wishing you all the best. All love, Shaq. Caption the post.

Trust me, I get it. That hurts, man. That hurts. That hurts. I mean, oh, man. Just to hear something like that. Obviously, Shawnee is a friend of mine. Shaq is a friend of mine.

Shaq is a friend of mine. I would have loved to see those two work it out. I think of power couples, people doing their own thing and they respect the crafts and being successful at it. Obviously, things didn't work out. They parted ways. That's tough, though. I think many of athletes at times are in situations or they're with women at times and the infidelity and the issues and the problems. maybe she did love Shaq. But all the other issues that came with being with a person or player of his caliber,

I think it overshadowed that. And at some point, at some point, the love went away. What do you think? Or am I wrong? You're missing the point of what you said. She said,

there's one, you can love someone, but not be in love. Whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Stay right there. Stay right there. Stay right there because I got to use this. I got to use this.

I got to use this next time. And I think our chat could have... I just don't get why she would say that. Wait, stay with me now. You can't... Don't give me no good shit. You can love someone. Uh-huh.

You can love someone, but not be in love. Uh-huh. You can love someone, but not be in love. Stay right there. There's a difference between the two. And what she's saying, I loved him, but I don't know if I was ever really in love. I want to make sure. I want to dot my I's

and I want to cross my T's in my own goddamn household. So while we're on this topic. Okay. Let me holler at you real quick. Now, you know, baby, nothing. This is important because I don't want to waste no time.

Now, do you love me? Wait, give me the question the right way. Do you love Ocho or are you in love with Ocho I am in love with you And I love you Okay are you sure Maybe

How do I make sure How do I know if Time Only time There's no guarantee There's no way Because I'm sure Shaq thought She was in love with him

Now she said She doesn't know If she really were But I just don't get I don't get Because here's the thing Let's just say she was in love with him. Now, she said she doesn't know if she really were. But I just don't get, I don't get, because here's the thing. Let's just say for the only reason some, do you believe,

and I know she's remarried and she's happy, I think she's married to a pastor. Now, let me ask you this, Ocho. How many pastor's wives are writing memoirs that people are reading? I would think that would be against a good book.

They're going to read this book because she was married to Shaq. She became a household name because she was married to Shaq. For the longest time, she kept that O'Neal name. And I got no problem with it. Like I said, I don't know Johnny. I'm not here to bash Johnny. But my thing is, I don't get why you needed to say that. Why you felt you needed to say that? If you're writing a book, if you're writing a memoir, the point of the memoir is to be able to share your thoughts, your feelings, some of the things that people didn't know, the ups and downs of your life, especially your marriage during and after.

I think it can help with other women that might be in similar situations that might not feel, that might feel the same way. They're stuck in a situation because of the lifestyle that they're provided and afforded to where they're really not in in love but they're there because of you know what and in in and i think now that she's free she can she can be free to speak on you know what damn i was with this individual all this time and i don't even think i was really in love but i was blind i was blinded by the opportunities that presented itself. Or am I wrong? I could be wrong. You were blinded by 700 million dollars.

That money was stacked so high you couldn't see straight. Ocho, I'm going to give you something. Wait, wait, wait. Let me give you a pen and a pad. Because I know you're going to give me some good shit. Or me. with it. Let me get my pen and pad. Because I know you're going to give me some good shit. For me, if it's someone I cared about,

someone that I'm close with, I believe it is okay to lie to a person if you'll save them great harm or endearment. Oh, no. Don't do that.

How do you think that... Let me ask you a question. How do you think that makes Shaq feel? After all... Yes. Knowing Shaq... You know how...

You know. Let's just say 10 years from now and I hope you and Rel you and y'all got y'all 75 years right if rail comes out and writes a book uh-huh i loved ocho but i'm not sure i was in love with ocho that would crush you you think that would crush you you know so.

Think about what you've done for real that you haven't done for any other woman that you've ever come in contact with. You done made me stand up. Come on now. Hey. I know. Hey. And see,

you have more expectations for real than you have any other woman that you've ever dealt with expectations the greater the expectation the greater the hurt that comes along with when it doesn't work out why you think I always told you what I've always been good at

love that woman to death what did I tell you though? We've been in the game a very long time. There's something very important that we all need to do and learn to do is being able to manage

being able to manage our expectations. You can't manage your expectations when you're in love with someone because you can't be in love with someone if you're managing your expectations. Because you have to be willing. You have to see. Here's the thing, Ocho.

In order to be in love, you have to be vulnerable. And see, there's two different definitions. You can be vulnerable and not be weak. You can be weak but not be vulnerable. But see, what love requires is that you become vulnerable. That you're willing to open yourself up. You're willing to fall and know that rail will catch you.

Wait, let me see if she... Hold on now. Come here, come here. Come here, we got to do the test now. Hold on. Hold on. See, sometimes, sometimes this is how you know

you got your good partner. What if I jump out the way? No, no, don't do that. Yeah, right there. It's going to let me know if we're going to last. It's going to let me know if we're going to last. If I can trust her. You know, if she gets me.

Because sometimes you're only as strong as your supporting cast. You know that, right? You know? Sometimes in life, you're only as strong as your supporting cast. You know that, right? Sometimes in life, you're only as strong as your foundation, huh? Okay. Yeah.

Okay. Okay. You see? She got me. Yes. Yes. The thing is, see, sometimes people confuse the two, Ocho, because a person can be vulnerable and not be weak.

You got to be careful though. You got to be careful. Because in today's era, in today's society, vulnerability to women is seen as weakness. Depending on who you with. So you got to be careful there. That's how you have to be vulnerable.

That's why you have to be careful who you're vulnerable with. But again, once you open up your vulnerabilities, there's an expectation level. And when that expectation level is not met, therein lies the hurt. Therein lies the pain.

And so, look, Shawnee can write whatever she wants. Like I said, I've never met Shawnee. I don't know her. I don't trash people. But I just, all things being said, I wish she hadn't said that. I do. Because you do realize, you do realize that's the father of your kids. You just told your kids, I'm not so sure I was ever in love with your father.

But is it okay? Is it, at this point in life, do you continue to hide the fact how you truly felt? Or at what point do you come out and say, this is how I really feel? Especially if you're writing a memoir. And it's a memoir, I'm assuming that can also help other women that are in similar situations

that don't know what to do. So similar situation, you were a guy worth three quarters of a billion dollars and he gave you everything and you still living off that? That's what you want to help him do? Look, my thing is, Ocho,

for me, what's the old adage? Love hurts. Uh-huh. Love hurts. Uh-huh. Love hurts. And the longer and the more, the greater the expectations, the more it hurts. You see, the thing is with this is that breaking up is easy if you're the one that wants to do the breaking up.

Normally, they're very, I don't know, like I said, i can only speak for myself and people that i've been around but anybody that i've ever been close around that didn't want to break up it wasn't easy man sharp what i need to do how can i get her back shannon what can i do to get him back because that's not what they wanted now those same people i've seen those same people walk away from a relationship like it's nothing because they're the one that's doing the breaking up. Breaking up is easier than being broken

up with. And so that's why you have to be mindful when there are kids involved of what you say and how you treat said partner. Because the kids are watching. So you got me tearing up listening to you. Shit.

So how you, when you hear kids talk a certain way, where you think they learned that from? Yeah. Yeah. Remember, no matter who you, Ocho, no matter who you are, you're dating that person's

past traumas, childhood, the relationship they had with their mom, with their dad, their previous relationships. That's what you're dating. And you know what? So that means, obviously, if the person hasn't had counseling

or therapy, then those past traumas could affect the relationship that they're in now. And it just carries over like a math problem. If you're not careful, Ocho, you'll bleed on the person that didn't even cut you. Boy, aren't you be having some fun? Hey, God damn, that was a good one. What?

Shit. Hold on. You worried about? Red, get out of the background. Go to bed. I'm talking to Ocho. Hold on, hold on, hold on. What was that again? I'm saying, yeah, if you don't go to therapy, if you're not

healed, you'll bleed on the person that didn't even cut you. Oh. I'm going to be able to use it. It's tough. But I wish, look, I wish, like I said, I know Shaq a little bit. I've met him a couple of times.

Great guy. Funny. What you see, he's a big, funny, big, giant kid. He's a 7'1", 15-year-old. That's his personality. He wants everybody 7'1", 15-year-old. That's his personality. He wants everybody to have a great time. He's generous beyond generous.

I just, you know, I just, in this situation, like I said, I mean, he's a grown-ass man. But, yeah, I don't care how big you are. I don't care how old you are. You have feelings. You have feelings. You have feelings. Tonight, someone learned a video that does not stop playing when you connect, disconnect from Bluetooth. During Luka Press game,

Presser, a reporter, went out to pull his phone to record and accidentally hit an open video of a porn and it blared. It blared for all to hear. Let's take a listen, Ocho. We were open shot, so just our sharing the ball and our energy

was great. Okay, moving on. That's why I don't open up Twitter in public. I don't open up Twitter in public. I don't open up Twitter in public because there ain't no telling what's going... Uh-uh. I ain't got those kind of sites on my Twitter.

Listen, I follow black Twitter, white Twitter, Mexican Twitter, rap Twitter. I follow so many. I follow 7,000 people because it makes the timeline enjoyable because I'm hitting on, I'm seeing all type of different topics.

But just sometimes, sometimes in public, and I told you on one of the shows, maybe it might have been last year, I was in public and I opened Twitter to scroll. I might have been at the grocery store and I had my sound up loud by accident.

And Lord behold, I scroll right onto one of the pages with two people doing horizontal activity and it was loud. And every time something like that happens and you try to scroll out of something fast, scroll out of something fast, scroll out of something fast, why you always miss?

Why you always miss the tab to close it out? Man, I bet I follow, because you heard my thing, but I probably be a, man, shout out to Sean, follow this porn site. Shout out to Sean, follow this. Oh, man, let me go ahead and read this thing, man.

Yeah. Y'all put my business all out there in the street. You can't like nothing. They go through your likes. They go through your book. Nah, I don't do that. Yes. I don't do that. Yes! I was like, man, I can't get no level of

privacy. Nah, but it is... Wait, did that person get fined? Was that tonight? Yeah, that's... Ooh. Oh, I know. You think they got in trouble? Yeah, they got in trouble. What if it was one of the players playing around? There ain't no player playing around. That's...

You know what? I guarantee it's one of the players. What if he married? I guarantee it's one of the players playing around,'s one of the players playing around did that on purpose what if he married ugh see I'm telling you I guarantee you that's one of the players did that on purpose I bet

I guarantee you when's one of the players did that on purpose. I bet. I guarantee you when it comes out. Now, if that was the case, why he say, OK, he had no idea. How would the how would the sound think about it? How would the sound if you're a reporter in the room? How would the sound be that clear? Yeah. Because because you place a record. Because they calm down, you ask a question because they want to hear

the question that's being asked, and they want to hear the answer. Hey, that's funny. That is funny. That was funny. Man. Man. You got me tearing up on that damn.

That was a good segment. I'm using you. I'm using him preaching that. Got me. Got me all emotional. Made for this mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma and silence the negative voices that have

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May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures

and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many

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listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever a Cybertruck. Let's take a look at the video, Ocho. Good. How you doing? I'm all good. All good? Yeah, J.R. Brown, man. J.R. Brown? Sorry, I didn't introduce myself.

Oh, okay. Okay. Played for the 49ers. Oh, you do? Yeah. That's cool. My dog Ricky sent me over here and said, I got some Cybertrucks in. We do, yeah.

I got to pull it up for you right here. How was it, bro? Man, look. Come get you a Cybertruck, man. Let's look. Come get you a Cybertruck, man. Let's go. Come get you a Cybertruck, man. I'm telling you. You talking speed.

It's spacious. You talking every kind of camera angle possible. You want to talk numbers? Yeah, let's talk numbers. Let's go. Let's talk numbers. You want to pay cash for the thing, or you want to... I don't know what you'll give me to pay cash for.

I ain't got it all on me right now. What do you have? Can do like... Cash wise? Yeah, cash wise. So the truck's $230. Give me the car. He says not in the cars right now, bro.

Who's that guy? That's my F.A. That's your F.A.? The guy I trust the most. So what'd he say? He's saying it's not in the cars right now. It's not in the cars right now? Not even for two? Not for two. Oh, okay. Nope saying it's not in the cars right now. It's not in the cars right now? Not even for two?

Not for two. Oh, okay. Nope, he said it's not in the cars. We ain't going to risk nothing. Okay. So we're not buying it? No, we ain't going to buy it. Okay.

All right, no problem. All right. No problem, bro. I appreciate you coming in. Yes, sir. All right? Always, bro. All right?

Always. Thanks, man. I appreciate it. Always. God, come into my God, man. I'm awesome. I don't know who he called. I don't know who he called. I don't know who he called,

but I want to thank that person to make sure that he didn't make that purchase for that vehicle that was marked up times way too much. The base model price... Listen. Yeah, I think... What do they list for?

85? They list for like 82 and it can go up to like... They normally probably go what you charge it. Hold on. Hold on, man. 10, I think, what do they list for? 85? They list for like 82 and it can go up to like, they normally probably go what you're charging. Hold on, hold on. 10, 20% over? The base model price

for one that you would give for your son, you know, if your son is a freshman in college, is 60,000. Yes. The one above that is 79,000.

The Beast, I think it's called the Beast, so the top model is 97,000. None of the three cyber trucks that you have at your availability is over a hundred grand. Now, the problem is there's a waiting list at Tesla. That's the issue. So there are other car dealerships that have them. And what they're doing is they're just marking the truck up because of supply and demand and understanding that there are people that have the money and they will spend it just to say, hey, look, I got a Cybertruck before everybody else. Just to say I got one and they're willing to pay $100,000 markup or whatever it may be. But hey, to each his own, to each his own.

I'm going to tell you what my grandma used to tell me. A fool and his money sell shoon part ways. God damn. $230,000 for a $60,000 truck. Stop playing with me, man. Stop playing. Elon Musk, I know you're going to see this send your boy a Cybertruck

send your boy a Cybertruck please I'll put a Cybertruck as my avi on X yeah yeah for Cybertruck yeah I'm not going to buy it I'll rent one I'm not gonna buy it man i i i

talked to real i had real looking to it when it first came out you heard it you heard what she said you saw the price about i lost my damn mind and you see that's that's what i like that's that's that's what that's all because i have somebody right i'm already financially conscious yes or i was already that way. Then I have someone else. Yes. That is the exact same way as me. That has an understanding.

Like, you know what? We're going to sit down. We're going to sit down for a month. We might sit down for two months. And then, you know what? One month, we might say, you know what? We're going to turn up and act like we grew up with the royal family. And that is such

a great effing feeling when you're on the same page as opposed to, you know, it could be the other way around, huh? It could be the other way around. Marlon Wayans is sharing a surprising reason why he never walked down the aisle. The 51-year-old actor and comedian

told the New York Times that he's worried about a potential wife would make his mother feel slighted. I never got married because I never wanted my mother to be jealous of a woman. I never wanted my mother to feel second to any woman. William's mother, her death in 2020 at the age of 81 hit him hard and made him realize she was his whole world. My mother's death broke me. It shattered me into a million pieces because that was my girl. That's a good one. Yeah, we just a few shows ago, we just remember we just we just talked about that. The the girlfriend and the mother arguing. Yeah. And I guess no mother will ever see a woman is being good enough for her.

Good enough for us. That's just that's just the nature of it in general. No matter who it is. And so I kind of understand where Marlon is coming from. Rel has had small... Wait, you had an issue with mommy? No, not really? No, no, Rel didn't have any issue.

Oh, yeah. She cussed Rel out on her birthday. On my birthday, yeah my my birthday yeah oh yeah everybody got it my kids got it all right we have a saying here in miami you're not really a friend of mine or you haven't been around me long enough if you haven't been cursed out by my mama if she never got you now you ain't really my friend i don't really know you like that because everybody has got it from the past to my coaches

to those I've dated in the past to those I have kids from. My kids got it. It's to the point where my kids, it was so funny. Yeah, for real? Hey, it was so funny that that was the saying

and the feeling. Hey, matter of fact, you know, I still have all her text messages. You probably can't see it, huh? I can't see it. But that's great. This is before she passed away.

These are all messages of her cussing me out. You see, I'm still scrolling, right? Wow. No, you laughing. This is all her cursing. Come to the mic. Come to the mic so they can hear you.

All her messages were her cursing me out before she passed away. So what happened is when she cursed me out, I don't text back because if I text back, it gets her riled up even more. And so, listen,

I never forget, man, never being able to say goodbye to my mama and her passing away cursing me out was so perfect and so on brand for who she was it just made it just made sense right Ocho this is something I want to address uh just came to brought to my attention is that Ocho, everyone's family. Okay. Shaq, about the comments that I said last night. Shaq said, you took me sticking up for

Shay as jealousy of Joker shows how smart you are and how you say anything to get clicks. That's not what I did, but anyway. So here's the clickbait for you. If I ain't ranked in the top 10 in your profession, then you can't speak. Don't forget, I know what you did to get where you're at. Me jealous sounds like you're jealous.

I know you're trying to stay relevant by gossiping on your podcast. We don't believe you. You need more people in case you forgot. Four rings, three finals MVPs, top 50, top 75. And to be quite frank, all this success you got still under me you don't know my work ethic but according I work less but not blah blah blah but anyway love you

too if you need help making money it's better ways than gossiping I'm too old for this ish love always the most dominating big man ever never took it serious remember I know you and you know words of skill better. So I'm better than you.

Hashtag G14 classification. I have it. You don't. Not in my profession. Wait, when that happened? He just about 10 minutes ago. Wait, Shaq in the chat? Shaq in the chat?

I've never. No, he on IG. I've never professed. I've never professed that i was as great as shaq yes sir but what i will say i got what i got yes sir because i worked my ass off now shaq has been the one to say it that he didn't work as hard he didn't train as hard he didn't work as hard. He didn't train as hard. He didn't eat as well as he should have. Shaq is the one that anytime someone wins an MVP, he talks about how he should have been the MVP over Steve Nash. Now, you guys have heard me speak glowingly.

I say Travis Kelsey is better tied in than I was. So was Gronk. So was my guy. What's his name? It was for the charge. Antonio Gates. Antonio Gates. Antonio Gates, Gonzo, Big Winslow.

I'm cool. I got no problem. You know why I got no problem, Ocho, with giving people credit? Because I got everything out of my God-given ability. God gave me the ability to do what I could do.

But he gave me discipline. He gave me dedication. The way I trained, the way I ate, the way I slept. So this was all I could get. Now, I would have felt some type of way if I'd have got these numbers and I half-assed it. But I never half-assed it.

I mean, Kobe said Shaq should have won and they should have won. But my thing is that you can't, and it's the greatest characters. Shaq, I'm the greatest character. No, am I a top 100 player? No. Am I the equivalent as a football player as Shaq was as a basketball player? No. But what I did

do is that I maximized that. And my question, if Shaq and yeah, because it's rough on the back my question is do you believe that you gave everything you possibly could in basketball did you train the way you should have did you eat the way you should have did you that just goes to show you how great you was is that you didn't you allowed your weight to get out of control. The injury started to creep up, and you got four rings, and you got three finals

MVP. See, I'm mad, man. I wish I understood. I wish I... Because I wish I understood goddamn basketball. So, when you talking about Shaq, especially during that time, think about this. If I don't know basketball now the way I should, the way you do,

like what you telling me right now is like I'm trying to process this shit, but I can't because I wasn't watching back then. He's the... Fuck, man. Think about it, Ocho. He's the most dominant big man in the history of the game,

and he got one MVP. Ah, but think about this. Think about how they just... I'm not going to say robbed. I don't want to use think about this. Think about how they just, I'm not going to say Rob. I don't want to use the word Rob. Think about how they took, they robbed Shea. 30 points. Number one seed,

but he doesn't get it. So what's the criteria for MVP if you just gave it to Joker again? But I don't think they gave it because Joker was top 10 in points, top 10 in rebounds, top 10 on assists, and they basically had the same record. They just

had a better division record. So you're talking about... It's not like Shay, they were the number one seed and Joker was number 10. Okay, I see what you're saying. Shaq, if you took what I said as a slight, okay, I can get it. And people say, well,

see, my thing is, is that I'm not saying that I would, I've never said I was the quitter. And I'm quick to say that when I talk about Kevin Durant or I talk about any player. I said, I'm not the equivalent basketball player, but all I can do is maximize my ability.

Shaq know deep down, he can take all the shots. Yeah, you got more money. Yeah, you're more famous than me. Yeah, you're more well-known. You're going to have way more money than I ever have. But nobody will ever say that I was lazy or I cheated myself. That's all I got for you, big boy. I ain't got nothing else for you.

I ain't here to argue with you. I'm not here to debate with you. It is what it is. I can't do any more on the football field. You can't do any more on the basketball court. Yes, you were great. Yes, you were great. But you know deep down,

you should be in the top five. Not top ten. Because you just said, who else was the most dominant? You said you were the most dominant. Most people agree you were the most dominant. Here we go again. With my lack of basketball fucking knowledge.

If Shaq was the most dominant to ever play at his position, right? The five, the center. How is he not in the goddamn top five? Ask him. Ask the people that say, is Shaq in their top five?

But I'm assuming people, I'm, okay, I need to take a fucking course or something. If he's top five, if he's the best big man of all time,

then he has to be in everyone's top five. You got Jordan the best big man of all time, then he has to be in everyone's top five. You got Jordan. You got Kobe. LeBron. I'm assuming. I don't know how the ranking goes. See, what I've done, I've told people my criteria for the top five.

I say for me, for you to be in the top five, you have to have at least, you have to have more than one regular season MVP. That's my criteria. Now, some people say, well, Shannon, as long as you got this, or as long as you got that, that's their criteria. Like you said, what is the criteria for the MVP? wait i have a question why why does the individual award matter to be included in the top five or something in general if you just if you were the he was the most dominant at that position why does the mvp matter you're the most you got most dominant you got you're the most dominant and you only won one mvp so how dominant were you i believe you're the most dominant and you only won one MVP. So how dominant were you? I believe he's the most dominant.

I do because I watched him play. Now, I didn't see Wilt. I'm not finna say I didn't see Wilt. I just saw, just see Wilt's numbers. But for the guy, and I started following basketball back in the late 70s. So as far as dominant, Shaq was it.

Shaq was it. Shaq is the most dominant player, which means he should have more than one regular season MVP. He was dominant during these years. Who the hell was winning the damn MVPs? Jordans. LeBron won some MVPs. Shaq came in in 92. So Jordan, Carl Malone,

Carl Barkley. Hey, Barkley won MVP. Akeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Steve Nash. Barkley won MVP, huh? Yeah. Hey, when I look at

Charles. See, people laugh at Charles, people, see, people, no, no, no, see people laughing at Charles. He can play some ball, huh? No. Charles was, what? Hell yeah. He was the foe? But he looked undersized, though.

He looked short. Very undersized. Yes. That's crazy. I can't see Chuck outside of TNT. I can't see him outside of golf. The picture him dominate. Exactly. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He was the real deal. He was the real deal. Hey, man. Yep. But but I put it like this here.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ain't no way he doesn't have four or five MVP. There's no way he doesn't have four. He doesn't have five, six. When he was in Orlando, you say he was 325? When he came out, he said he was 325. Hey, that's a big human, boy.

God. Yeah. And that's why I say we're never going to see a Shaquille O'Neal again. People talk about we're not going to see a Jordan. We're not going to see a LeBron. We're not going to see a Kobe. We're never going to see a guy this size. Hey, you know the little clip? Remember the little clip with him and Jordan playing around in the

All-Star game? And he hit the hey, buddy footwork. What? Shaq footwork. We're like that, boy. Do you remember they used to have a show on. I forget the name of the show where Shaq would like, Shaq would like, he would like go play flag football.

Oh yeah. I remember that. I remember that. Yeah. I remember that. Did you watch, did you watch Shaq? You see Shaq run?

I remember it was, it was the episode. I remember the episode. No, no, no, nobody, nobody had that size.

You're never going to see a guy that size with that kind of athleticism. You're not, but maybe this, okay. This is my opinion. that kind of athleticism? You're not. But, okay, this is my opinion. I believe has Shaq taken it as serious as Kobe, as serious as Jordan, as serious as LeBron,

with what he knows and the access that he had. Because as you get to that level, you have access to the best trainers, you have the access to the best nutrition access to the best trainers. You have the access to the best nutritionists, the best chefs. Right. That's just my personal opinion.

Hey, man, y'all, you know what? I ain't got no beef with Shaq. We ain't got no beef with Shaq. Because I don't want to have to jump on him. You know? Now, you're laughing. I love Shaq. Now, I told you, we ain't doing no more beefs. We ain't doing no more beefs. We ain't doing no more beefs.

I ain't got no beef with nobody. What we can do is we can have a healthy dialogue based on how we feel about individuals and their respective crafts. That's it. Sometimes they might take offense to it. Shaq, we love you. Shaq,

you know I love you. You know how I feel about you. You know, you my dog. And there were no issues. There were no problems. We were just talking about a subject matter in which I don't know much about. And that's it. But here's the thing.

But see, Shaq is looking at what I'm saying in a vacuum. Because Shaq is the most dominant. And they've never bestowed that title on another five other than Will so Jokic is not more dominant but he has more regular season MVPs no guys are not more dominant but he has he and so that's what I'm saying I believe me personally and chat y'all can disagree or disagree. But Shaq said he didn't take practice here. He said, I was going to get beat up in the game,

so why was I going to get beat up in practice? You can't think. Ocho, well, I'm going to run it. Ocho, think about this. Think about what he said. Now, he said he didn't go hard in practice because he didn't want to get beat up in practice because he was going to get beat up in the game. What if you said, you know what? I didn't run no routes beat up in practice because he's going to get beat up in the game. What if you said, you know what? I didn't read no routes full speed in practice because I was going to run a full speed in the game.

Dang. He said on numerous occasions, he wished he had taken it. He had trained harder and kept his weight under control. But I guess me pointing that out, what he said, I guess he, you know. I'm where I am. Because you know, Ocho, you know I was able to walk away from the game and never ever look back?

Because I got everything I could out of this seventh round draft selection, out of this body. Nobody will ever say, if people have more talent than Shannon, God gave them that. But you ain't going to find nobody to say they outworked it. And that's all I had.

So 8-15, 10,060, 62 touchdowns, eight Pro Bowls, fourth first team, all pros, five total, three Super Bowls. That's all I got, don't you? That's all I could get out of what God gave me. I couldn't get anything I like it. And by my

podcast, my podcast is what it is. Some people like it, some people don't. More people like it than don't. The numbers speak for itself. So I wish you the best on your podcast and your platform, but I ain't got nothing. I ain't...

Nah, nah, nah. We ain't going to do that. But what we can do is we have a Nightcap versus TNT Royal Rumble. Like, if them boys want smoke, we can get it on. Huh? Like, listen, you get Shaq. I hit Kenny. I hit Kenny. I hit Kenny.

I push Kenny over. And me and Chuck, we can go toe-to-toe. Two, Nightcap versus TNT. I'm ready. It don't make me none. And we could be friends right after and go eat. Look, it is what it is. Look, man.

It is what it is. I mean, look. And here's the thing and this oh yeah we're all wired like this socho we really are we we really are somebody can say a thousand times shannon's great but it's the one time that they say i'm not right that you fixate on. How many times have I larded Shaq but it's the one time what he fixate on? And that's okay. That's okay. Listen, we all love each other.

Shaq, we love you, baby. Yeah. I ain't got no beef with Shaq. I ain't never had no beef with Shaq. Listen, you vegan anyway. You don't eat beef. Yeah. Yeah. But to each

To each Shaq I wish you nothing But the best bro Hey Continued success Keep doing your thing On TNT

Keep doing your thing On the podcast Hey I ain't got no I ain't got no beef With you bro That was just my opinion We were talking

We were talking about it Last night Because of what you said. Stick up for Shay, whomever. Whomever. That's your opinion. Shaq, I love you. You want to go a few rounds. Let me know.

Let me know. I was just sticking up for him in the chat. But we good. Shaq, we good. Hey, you know how to get in touch with me. You want to talk, bro? Hey, you want to talk off the air, on there,

whatever you want to do, bro. We good. I'm good. I ain't got no problem with you. I ain't never had no problem with you. You know where to find me at. Okay, Ocho, check this out. A waiter goes viral for getting

tip Popeye's coupons from a customer. See how people do? Stay home. Stay home. Don't go to restaurants where you know they're relying on the tips that you give. Don't do that. Hey, even though... Wait, that's

Popeye's? What you want me to do? I guess a waiter goes viral for getting tip Popeye's? What you want me to do? I guess a way that goes viral for getting tipped Popeye's coupons from a customer. Would you still take them? Now, I'm a church's person. I'm a church's person. I eat church's chicken, obviously, you know.

But Popeye's coupons ain't that bad. It ain't that bad. I prefer people. I prefer my people. When you go out, please find a way to tip something. But this is nice. This is a nice touch.

Now, if you left $20 with the coupons to go with it, now we talking business. Now we talking business. Hey, that's great. That's creative. All right. Ocho, we running late tonight.

Oh, my God. Hey, it's 2 o'clock. I got my daughter's... I got... And I got my God. Hey, it's two o'clock. I got my daughter's... And I got my daughter... My daughter graduated from... She's getting... Where you at? You in A?

I got... Oh, you in A. Okay, okay, okay. I was trying to figure out why your background looked different. Okay. Oh, you see your boy Rue? You in Airbnb? Nah. Oh, you see your boy Rue? Look at him. He got a pool table there. You in the Airbnb? Pool and everything. Nah.

You know, they call me the black Efren Reyes, the magician. No, you're not. On the pool table. I'm like that. No, you're not. No, you're not. Best in the house. No, you're not. Best in the house.

Trust me. Trust me. You're not. You're not. Man, I beat four dudes on the way to a pool tournament like you. Do you understand? Do you understand when it comes to ping pong? I know I play around a lot.

When it comes to ping pong, pool, bowling, you are not going to beat any of the three. Look for me this summer. Look for me this summer. Hey, put your money where your mouth is. I'm not a gambling man but when it comes to those three I'm a gamble

the Chinese offered me a spot like the French team offered Joel Embiid a spot in basketball the Chinese I couldn't do it alright

I couldn't do it Ocho check this out Ocho J. Dove Thackred said please send a special shout out to my wife Stephanie it's our second wedding anniversary looking forward to many more Ocho you gotta keep working

so he can celebrate celebrate his in a couple years Stephanie J-Dub want to wish you a happy second anniversary and to both of you guys happy second anniversary and yes 5 year 10 year 15 25 50 that's what we're going for congratulations guys, happy second anniversary. And yes, five-year, 10-year, 15, 25, 50.

That's what we're going for. Congratulations, guys, on the wedding anniversary. And many, many more to come. Rodney Dinkins, that's my homeboy from the crib. I was in a debate with someone about who was the better athlete, you or Spank. I said you were a better athlete, and Spank was a better football player. What do you think? I saw your daughter in the A today.

Yes, I was the better athlete. He was the better football player, but as far as just pure athlete, as far as like running, jumping, catching, throwing, doing all that stuff, yes, I was a better athlete. He was a much better football player. No question about that. He was the better football player. Dink, you're right. Leon Banks said,

hi, Uncle Nocho. I lost my V-card last week. Hey! 32. Congratulations, boy. I took Ocho the vice. You was whipped free. Man, y'all.

Leon! That's what I'm talking about, boy. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, listen. I'm glad you lost your V-card. Congratulations. Now, send me a DM. I'll send you some of my YouTube tutorials

on how to improve in certain areas, horizontal activity, vertical activity, finding what toys to use, how to navigate the woman's body from head to toe. That's very, very, very pivotal. Very pivotal for you to learn these steps. It's only three steps. I'm going to take you where you want to be

and you too can have 11 kids. Let's go. Let's go. That's what I'm talking about. I'm happy for you, man. I'm happy. Man, here? You need help, bro. You need help. D Slaughter 64 said, help, bro. You need help. Hello, Mario. Would like to serve as a researcher

on the show. I have NASA experience with various projects. I have connected with Ash on LinkedIn. D Slaughter, that's Ash. That's her role. So her job is to make sure everything is functioning and doing all the hiring and the firing.

And so whatever Ash decides, I let Ash rock with it. Well, that's our time for tonight. No, you're not. Please make sure you hit that like button. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. And thank you again, guys, for staying up late with us tonight. Thank you guys for selling out Shea by La Port laporte we hope to have it back in stock we're taking pre-orders we just got a shipment in um 700 cases um and so we should uh clear out all the orders that are back that are uh outstanding and thank you again for your patience please go

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Both road teams win tonight and even the series up at 1-1. The Mavs behind 29 points, 10 rebounds, 7 assists, 3 steals from Luka Doncic, and 29 points, 11 rebounds from P.J. Washington go on the road and beat

the OKC Thunder 119-110. I don't need it. And in the other game, the Cavaliers go on the road. They get 29 points from Sparta Mitchell, seven rebounds, eight assists. And they got 21 points, 10 rebounds, five assists from Evan Mobley. And Karris LeBert came off the bench and gave them 21 points and six rebounds

as they go on the road and beat the Celtics by 24 points to even that series up as they go back to Cleveland. So thank you again for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, route runner extraordinaire, Bengals ring of fame, honoree, pro bowler, all pro, Liberty City's own. That's Chad Ocho Cinco Rosado Johnson. And we're back with you on Saturday. Thank you for joining us again, and good night. The Volume. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners

to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company.

The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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