Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Unc’s doppelganger, return of Verzuz, potato heir

Episode Date: November 16, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best viral moments from the week. Top stories include Unc finding his doppelganger, Swizz Beatz teases the return of Verzuz, New Orleans Saints C Connor McGovern is the heir to a $500m potato empire and much more!03:05 - Shannon stumbles upon his look alike. No, it’s not his son.05:21 - Ocho and Unc rank the “best super heroes” in a game of Rough Draft09:22 - Swizz Beats teases return of Verzuz18:10 - Unc explains the power of the Internet and gossip21:00 - Potato Heir McGovern impresses Unc and Ocho27:05 - JR Smith, Ocho, and Unc discuss how a first day should go32:00 - Puka Nacua thinks he can play in the NBA(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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we were at the hbcu tour um and so we were on morehouse campus and there was a guy in the background that everybody said that it looked like me and people talking about that with my son it was all over yeah i um, I spoke to the gentleman. He's an official. He was going to be officiating the game today between Morehouse and Clark. No, that's not my son. Because let me tell you how kids work. When you got money, you know about all your kids.

It ain't no secret. you know about all your kids. It ain't no secret. You know about all of them. But he was great. Jordan showed it to me and said, ask me to do my people. He looked just like you too. Really? It didn't come.

You know what else? I think what happened is I think somebody told him that he looked like me. And then he got glasses at some point in time to really look like me. But we took a picture together. So I'm not sure. I'm sure he's going to post it at some point in time. But somebody said he looked like you glasses. No, he did.

Cam and Cam. Sorry. somebody said he looked like you glasses and all he did uh um cam and cam saw him he said oh you sure i like yeah i'm sure man damn y'all leave me alone no but uh it was great it was it was great to be back um to be back on the camp like i said i hadn't been i hadn't been to uh more hadn't been on that campus in a very, very long time. It's always great to go back and be at an HBCU and feel the vibe and feel the energy. It was going to be a big game. Moore House was trying to, like, finish out on a strong note. I think Clark was trying to win the division

and go to the, I think, whatever they have. And Morehouse was trying to spoil it. But it was great. It's always great to get back. Best Super Heroes!

Each player gets to speak six. And I get to go first. I don't want to read no more. I'm going first. Superman. Give me Superman. Give me Superman. You want Superman first?

You sure? Yes. Superhero. I'm going Deadpool first then. Okay. I'm going Batman. I'm going Deadpool first then. Okay. I'm going Batman. I'm going Iron Man. I'm going Spider-Man.

Wolverine. Hulk. It's over. It's over. You crazy? It's over. Give me give me Black Lightning.

He reach it, y'all. Give me Black Lightning. He reach it. I'm just throwing a little color in there. I'm throwing a little seasoning. That's all. Ain't no way you reach it. You done lost. My first three are better

than what you just named anyway. Nah, bro. Ask the chat. We will see. I didn't gave you three, right? And then, you know, I'm not with segregation, so my next three is going to be nothing but flavor.

Come on. Uh. Well, you sure taking a long time over there, boss go wonder woman wonder woman i'm going blade oh no no no hold on hold on hold on hold on let me see go ahead go ahead i'll let you go go ahead i'm going blade black panther it's over it's over. It's over now. Power man. You go with it, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Listen, I gave you – You ain't win this. I gave you three. Aquaman. I'm going Aquaman. That was your last one, right? Yeah. Yeah, you – Hold on.

That was six. Oh, no, I don't have a mention. Okay, no, I don't have a mention. Okay. Chat, ain't no way y'all can do nothing with this one. Ain't nothing y'all can do nothing with this one. Ain't nobody can help you now. Superman, Batman, Hulk,

Wonder Woman, Black Panther. What are you talking about? I had Deadpool, Wolverine, Iron Man. Oh, that three right there. Those three right there eliminates everybody you pick. What are you talking about? Mm-mm. And then I added the flavor.

I added the black superheroes. Blade. Power Man. Come on, man. What you talking about? Ain't nobody better than Black Panther. All right. Ain't nobody better than Black Panther.

You lost. Bro, I'm on that vibranium. These picks I got had me thinking I was on that vibranium. You lost. Man, y'all, it's over with you. It's over with you. It ain't even close. I bought me the poetry.

You lucky I ain't go blank, man. You could have went blank, man. You lucky I ain't go Captain America. And you know went blank man. You lucky I ain't go Captain America. And you know what I'm saying? I let you off the hook. I threw a lady that you don't cut a whippie. You know I got to get a whippie to 2B, bro. No.

Ain't no way. And Ocho, you owe me 79% say you owe me 79% say you owe me 2K. That's 70. Hold on, man. I thought we just had a kumbaya moment.

A coming together moment about me having to take three L's in less than a two week stand. What happened? Swizz Beatz teases the return of Versus. Man, during the pandemic, I loved Versus.

Yeah, Versus was really good, especially during the pandemic. It was perfect timing. That was perfect timing. That's why the viewership was so goddamn high because there was nothing else for us to do. There was nothing else for us to do

outside of watching TV and Netflix and Hulu and all those other things. But Versus was awesome. Versus was really awesome. The fact that it's coming back, but you got to give it, you got to give it to people what they, but you got to give it to people, but they won't. You got

to give it to people. Look, I love the Isley Brothers, Earth, Wind & Fire. Oh, you want... Snoop Dogg. Oh, man, I loved it. Look, if I could have any

Versus, I want two. I want Mariah and Whitney and I want Prince and Michael Jackson. We talk about real live verses. I mean, those are hypotheticals that actually... That's the verses I want. I see what you mean.

If I would think about today and the verses that I would like to see, I would like to see, I would like to see a versus between maybe like a… Jay-Z and Wayne. No. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I would like to see a Chris Brown and Usher.

A Chris Brown versus Usher. Their discography… 20 songs? Just 20? Yeah, 20 is enough because they got too many songs. 20 of their best songs. Chris Brown versus... That'd be a good one. That'd be a good one. That'd be a damn

good one. Really, really good. That would be a very, very good one. Who else? I mean, what you want you want rap you want R&B I'm trying to think of rap some where it makes sense some that makes sense

Nicki Minaj and Meg nah Nicki Minaj has her discography is too big Lil Kim and Nicki yeah yeah Miss' Kim and Nicki. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Missy Elliott and Nicki.

Yeah, yeah. Hey, I don't know what you... Y'all must have forgot about... Y'all must have forgot about Missy. She ain't Mr. Mina for nothing now. Don't play with her. Don't play with her. And her videos. Ain't no woman had no videos

like her. Yeah, nobody had visuals. Nobody had artistry or creativity. That little pint size that small 5'1", 5'2", pint size. But boy. Missy and Busta

Rhymes, their creativity and their visuals was untouchable back then. Untouchable. Who y'all want to see? Who y'all want to see? Who y'all want to see in a versus chat? Somebody said Who would y'all want to see in a versus chat? Somebody say Jodeci and whoever.

Guy and Jodeci. How about we do Guy and Jodeci? That would be a good one. Babyface and Keith Sweat. Woo! I don't know. Hey, Babyface got some knockers. Because Babyface got a lot of stuff that he didn't say that he wrote.

I was just going to say that. Who could we put Stevie Wonder up against? Nobody. Stevie Wonder? Yeah. He's a legend, boy. He got some classics. Stevie got some classics.

Somebody said about Lil Wayne and Em. Em and Em. That's a good one. Who are you going to put up against New Edition? New Edition? One Twit? Look, I look here. Here's the thing, guys. One Twit? We just talking

musically. We know the person. We know what R. Kelly is alleged to have done. We're not here to try to right or wrong or say he didn't or whatever the case. Nobody here in this chat is qualified to retry this case. Quincy Jones just passed. Ain't nobody effing with Quincy. So not R. Kelly because he wrote, Quincy wrote for too many big artists,

from Michael Jackson to Frank Sinatra to Brothers Johnson to Donna Summers to George Bitts. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, produced. I don't think he wrote a whole lot. No. Summer Street? No.

Ray Charles? Mm-mm. No. Ray Charles. Now, because I remember having a conversation with Snoop and Snoop said the only one that he think as far as produced would probably be Dr. Dre.

But when you look at Quincy, you're talking about 60 years, aren't you? That's a long time, oh Joe that's a long time boy that's a long time in the big from Michael to Frank Sinatra George Benson brothers Johnson uh uh Ray Charles Quincy Jones is is damn near octopus when it comes to the music industry he's oh he's oh he's touched every genre of music and it has something to do with really everybody. And he's like a standalone. He's a standalone. He's like, we're just

going to leave him alone. We're going to go on to something else. But I mean, I'm anxious to see because I look. When Versus came on, when it first started, oh, it was must see. I don't care who it was. I'm listening. Who did Usher win against?

Who did Usher go against? Not Usher. Did Nelly go against somebody, but it was raining in Nelly's place. Who did he go against? Luda? Because Luda went against – who did Luda go against? I don't remember. Luda went against Nelly, right?

Yeah, Luda went against Nelly. Mm-hmm. That Chris Brown usher would be a good one though I'm not sure who they think about getting you know but when they do start it back up the first thing they do it has to be two people that command the ear you get two people that command the ear

and the eyes of the viewing audience you set you gotta start You get two people that command the air in the eyes of the viewing audience, you set. You got to start off with a bang. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. To get people back in,

oh, you got to bring some heavyweights. You got to bring the heavyweights. You got to. To get them back in, because guess what, Ocho? Everybody outside now. See, when you first had it everybody was inside what they gonna do now to get them back to come like okay

it's gotta be must see it's gotta be appointment TV right hell you might have to get us and Chris Brown that'd be live like I said like a Beyonce Beyonce ain ain't bionce ain't doing this so can we please stop talking about like stop saying bionce stop saying taylor swift some people like like a whole you know i just threw that out there yeah them guys they gonna do this what absolutely not yeah maybe uh What? Absolutely not. Yeah.

Maybe, uh... Hell, I don't know. I don't know. Would Stephanie Mills do it? Why is it always the small women that got the biggest voices? You notice that, Ocho? Christina Aguilera. Tina Marie.

Stephanie Mills. Christina Aguilera, small. Ariana Grande, small. Melba Morris, small. Why all these small women got the biggest damn voices? Yeah. They'd be five foot tall, 5'1", 5'2", and singing like they're seven foot tall. Yeah.

Stephanie Mills is tiny. Mm-hmm. Tina Marie was tiny. Ariana Grande is tiny. Christina Aguilera is tiny Tina Marie was tiny Ariana Grande is tiny Christian Aguilera is tiny they be tiny as F and vocal cords crazy

get it at work crazy get it at work so that's Timberland and Swiss Beats look forward to watching the guys look forward to listening to it Wesley Taylor said

I get so confused when people think you don't like the black community, did Nadassi what you did for the four Olympians, who were the majority black, you to go bro I can't you see, but see that's the power of the internet you see somebody says something

and then guess what happens Ocho everybody start regurgitating that. It gets repeated as fact and they take it and run with it. So it used to bother me because I'm like where did they get this from? Now I just don't give a F.

Because people are going to believe what they want to believe. Why should I spend any time trying to worry about or disprove what I like or dislike? Right. Okay, y'all run with that. Keep it going. Now, I want to know how many bills that pay for you. I want to know where that gets you in life. Because in order for you to keep running with it and keep regurgitating, something has to be good coming from it for you.

Maybe you're a content creator and it gives you stuff to talk about. But I don't, Casey, I don't spend any time worried about what people think, who I like or dislike. They need to worry about themselves. worried about what people think, who I like or dislike. They need to worry about themselves. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you.

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some of his teammates were curious why he was playing football when he can make far more money back home farming his response. I wanted to make a name for myself and show that my hard work earned myself something. And I wasn't riding the coattails of everybody, but whatever his NFL career ends, the 31 L center said he would go back to RD. What is off it? His he would go back to R.D., his family's company, back to research, I guess research and develop,

though he said he'll work his way up from the bottom just like everybody else and earn his way up just like he did in his football career. So the next time you're snacking on McDonald's fries, remember those potatoes are likely coming from Conor Mccgovern mcconnell mcgovern's family farm that's dope that's dope i and i like that most of the time when you when you have success or a kid is born into wealth they don't have that same drive and that work that it takes to want to work and actually put the work in to earn and see what it's like to have the responsibilities and what it takes to earn that kind of money to be able to support yourself so i'm not sure if his parents raised him that way and but the fact that

he is the way he is is commendable and then not only for the business to already be successful but to have an nfl career and say i'm gonna make good money in nfl and then when i do retire i'm gonna start from the bottom of the business and work my way back up to the top ain't too many people built like that huh yeah but but he should because i'm sure he doesn't know the business and work my way back up to the top. Ain't too many people built like that, huh? Yeah, but he should because I'm sure he doesn't know the business because he was like playing football, college football, NFL football

like the people that's already there. Although a lot of times, yeah, you're right, Ocho. A lot of times family members, hey, my family company, I want to start at a VP level as opposed to an entry level, learn the ropes, and work your way up. That's why I've always been impressed by Peyton Manning. His dad made

lots of money. Eli made lots of money. And they're going to be number one draft picks overall and make careers for themselves. You have to commend that. When your dad is somebody, your mom, your family is somebody, and you say, yeah, that's fine and good, but I want my own name. And that's what people used to tell me all the time. Man, your brother got somebody, and you say, yeah, that's fine and good, but I want my own name.

And that's what people used to tell me all the time. Man, your brother got money. That's his money. My brother don't want to be taking care of no grown-ass man. He got a wife and kid. So I want to earn my own. I want to do my own thing. I appreciate everything that my brother gave me.

He gave me just enough to make me desire to get more but on my own i saw the thing that he had and i and he knew he knew i wanted to be like him hey hey bro check this out look what i Inspiring, ain't it? Man. And I went and got everything, with the exception, with the exception, he had a I don't know if you remember this, Ocho, but in the 80s, they came out with a BMW called the M3. It had a

spoiler on the back and everything. With the exception of that, and he had a Typhoon. Every other car that my brother had, I got it. You got your one? He got a Ferrari, I got a Ferrari. He got a Big Benz, I got a Big Benz. Whatever my brother had, I got it. You got one? He got a Ferrari, I got a Ferrari. He got a big Benz, I got a big Benz. Whatever car he had, I got. Because that's what I saw.

That's what drove, that's what motivated me. And for Conor McGrath, a governed family, to be who they are. And he said, nah, yeah, that's good, fine. But I want my own name. That's loud. And no matter what happens, I've had an NFL career that's expanded 8 years, maybe it goes 9, 10, who knows

but when my career's over, yeah I'm still young, think about it he'll only be 30, let's just say for the sake of argument his career goes another 2 years he'll be 33 years of age yeah he can I mean, he's made good money, he can retire if he want made good money he can retire if he

want to but he said no we're going to go into the family business and we're going to expand so I mean I love that I love when kids come from wealthy families or well off families and don't feel entitled I love

that no matter what you know what you want to say because a lot of times families and don't feel entitled. I love that. No matter what you want to say, because a lot of times they have access. Bronny had access. LeBron made sure he had the best trainer. He had the best nutritionist. He had the best coaches. He had the best of everything. But the kid says, I want to make it on my own. Now, he's never going to be able to outrun his dad's shadow.

His dad is LeBron. It's just like Jordan kids. They're never going to be able to outrun the door's dad's shadow. His dad is LeBron. It's just like Jordan kids. They're never going to be able to open the door to his dad's shadow. But just because that's my dad, I shouldn't walk for myself? So you mean to tell me I can't walk to accomplish something?

Just my last name is supposed to get it. So I commend the kid. I commend him. I love the opportunity. Look, he's supposed to. You're supposed to give them an opportunity. All this old ass nepotism. And nip your ass out of my face. But like I said, I love when kids want to be something on their own.

You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I can't do anything. I can't help who my parents are, what I was born into. But I have a desire to be known by more than that. I did that on my own. Yeah, that's my brother. But Sterling ain't catch no passes at Savannah State. He ain't catch no passes for the Broncos or the Ravens.

So no matter what's up, and y'all know this, you know this, NFL want to know who can help. Can you help me win games? That's all it come down to. Because Sterling ain't playing over here. He playing on the green bay. He helping green bay win games. So kudos to you, Carter McGovern.

A 25-year-old woman is going viral, explaining her date with a 45-year-old. Okay. That's not my guy. 25, 45, you know, 20 years, you know, ADK. I can rock with that. Check this out. A 25-year-old woman is going viral explaining her date

with a 45-year-old who left $100 on the table and walked out. She told him she wanted to go to a steakhouse. He took her to Eddie V's. Eddie V's in Nashville? There are several Eddie V's, but I don't want to Nashville. That's neither here nor there. She ordered lamb chops,

oysters, and crab fried rice after he only ordered the drink. Total cost of her meal, $159. You could hear her tell him this is usually how I order she paid the rest of the bill after he left

$100 and walked out I ain't mad at her I ain't mad at her this is the first time they going out yeah I ain't mad at her buddy I guess it was the first day it was the first day going out? Yeah, I ain't mad at nobody. I guess. It was the first date.

For sure. And the last date. Man, listen. Out the real... I was just going to say that. Most of the time, it's fellas out here, it's dudes out here probably that she's been with before and it's taken out. It's all about here probably that she's been with before and it's taken out. You know, it's all about showing out.

It's all about showing out on the first date because, you know, first impressions of everything. You got to reel in. How do you reel a woman in? By doing all the craziness in the beginning.

The more, the crazier you are in the beginning with spoiling and spending a lot of money, the easier it is to get to your end goal. And that's all it comes down to.

It's all a goddamn game, man. It's a game. And that game is one of them to pull it off like this. That's crazy. But Swish, here's the thing. Ocho, let me ask y'all this. If I take somebody on the

first or second date and I get a private plane, what I got to do next? Get the space shuttle? Where the hell I go from there? If I'm getting you lobster, if I'm getting you hold on, if I'm getting you lamb chops and oysters, now granted, we're in different tax brackets, okay? But I'm saying

the average guy ain't got bread like that. Okay, we get you a seafood tower that costs $400, $500. Okay, we get X, Y, and Z. That's one thing. But I'm saying, the seafood tower, they got like four or five lobster tails.

They got crab claws. They got scallops. They got oysters. They got shrimp. Whatever the case may be. What was the price? What was the price you said it cost? Probably about $350, $400. Y'all got damn head, man.

But that's what I'm saying. But Ocho, that's what I'm saying on the first date. If you do that on the first date, where do you go from there? No, you can't go. You ain't nowhere to go. You gotta go to the moon. Shoot.

That's what I'm saying. Baby, how about we start with something? How about we start with something, you know? I ain't no sushi, so ain't no sense in me going there because I ain't going to eat it. But can we go to like American cuisine?

They got burgers, or they got some fish, they got some salmon. You know, they got a grouper. They got some type of fish. You know what they got burgers or they got some fish. They got some salmon. You know, they got, you know, they got a grouper. They got some type of fish. You know what I'm saying? Dover salt. How can we start ribs?

Can we start there? Let's start going to the state. And you know, the state is market price. When you start seeing something with market price. Yeah. You know what it is, huh? You gotta take it real old school nowadays. You gotta see

what they really in for, and you gotta take them on a couple picnics. Pack them some Smuckers peanut butter jelly sandwiches or something. Pack them yummy. There you go. Now we're talking. Crustables. I ain't making no sense. Crustables. They already got the crust off of. Give me a couple of those.

I was saying a couple of iced teas, a little Arnold Palmer's in the joint. Like I said, we really like me. A couple of bags of Skittles or something. See where we at first. Yeah. Yeah,

now we talking. Hey, I'm a simple guy. Even swap ain't no swindle. Okay, what we doing? You use me for the ride, I use you for the ride.

You want the pay, I use you for a day. I mean, even Swapik can't be. Can't be. I pop the back of the trunk, we sit out back, we chill, we have a conversation. Hey, look, come on now. I'm looking. If you're trying to be a sponsor, if you're trying to be

a partner, or you're trying to get sponsored. Hold on. Hold on, I got to you. Hold on. Hold on. I just need... Hold on. Hold on. I got to you. Hold on. Hold on. Hold that thought. Swish, I just need to – hey, I can be either one. I just need to know. Ocho, Ramsar Puka Nakua says he could play in the NBA with ease.

I think it would be so easy to transition from the NFL to the NBA less than three months. Listen, as much as I love Puka, I love my NFL players, especially the elite players at the NFL level, I don't think they understand. I know you go to LA Fitness, you go to the rec center, maybe you play with hoopers sometimes,

maybe you play with tall players sometimes. I don't think they understand the difference and how good the, not even the elite, some of the worst NBA players, how good they are once they're in a structured environment. And it's disrespectful for Puka to be able to be able to say, you know what? I can come in and transition and some dudes is good, man. Even as good as you may think you are when you're playing against regular

people, it's different. It's different. I understand that because I ran with them. I ran with them. I ran with them in New York. What's the name of the gym? Everybody work out at New York. 55. Yeah, man. Listen, man.

I thought I thought I thought I can get out there because I'm I'm quick. You know, I'm fast. And, you know, I'm twitchy. I ain't had this. I felt bad. I felt embarrassed because I had no business out there. None of my shit was working. But let me ask you this. But here's the thing, Ocho. I felt embarrassed because I had no business out there. None of my shit was working.

But let me ask you this, Sweet. But here's the thing, Ocho. When you said he can play, I don't think he's talking about he's going to go get 15. I think he's saying he can get some rebounds, set some picks. I mean, that's it, man. You come off a pick unless you got to be a real shooter like that. You know, come off a pick or something like that. Come off a screen. But, man, listen, man.

Then you got them trees down there too. 6'9", 6'10", 6'11". And they got 40 in verse. You got twos at 6'6", 6'7". Man, you ain't doing nothing with that, man. You ain't doing nothing with that, man, at all, unless you special. And he don't have that kind of talent like a Ja Morant or a Russell Westbrook where you're just going to blow by people, you know, based off skill set DNA.

No. Uh-uh. He got a nice little game. He was on my team in the celebrity all-star game. He got a nice little game. No, I ain't say he got no NBA game. Damn. Okay, okay, okay.

I'm just making a show now. That's why I said against regular people, he look good. Yeah. He gets you three or four rebounds or something like that, Ochoa. I ain't say anybody go out there and hit like four, five threes. Hey, man, it's different, man. Let me ask y'all this. What you think is the easier transition?

Oh, the easier transition is basketball to football. You think so? Why are you saying that? Because – Oh. No, no, no, no. But here's the thing. Normally, guys that transition, they play football.

Right. You don't see no football player say, you know what, nah, Charlie Ward did. Charlie Ward played football and basketball in college. And you see a lot of guys that transition. Tony Ward played football and basketball in college. And you see a lot of guys that transitioned. Tony Gonzalez played football and basketball. Julius Peppers. Julius Peppers. Football and basketball.

Ronald Kerr. Yeah. But I think the thing is that it all depends on the position. A lot of times, you're a tight end, Jimmy Graham, or you being a D lineman. Mm-hmm. You ain't playing no wide receiver. You ain't playing no DB.

Yeah, see, that's my thing. When I told me, dog, when I was getting recruited in high school, they told me, my cousin went to Miami, right? So he ended up playing. He was playing D in and shit. So I'm like, all right, cool. He said, man, look, cuz, I ain't going to lie. The last couple of cats they brought

down here that was our size, they made tight ends. I said, listen, bro, I holla at y'all. I ain't playing no tight end, dog. I ain't blocking. I ain't doing none of that. I holla at you. I gotta put on another 45 pounds, 220. Like, no, dog, I'm not doing that.

Nah, you'd be good. They'd put 20 pounds on you. You'd be hailing tight end. I'm straight, man. I ain't blocking nobody. I ain't, no, dog. I'm not doing that. All right, y'all. No, you'd be good. They'd put 20 pounds on you. You'd be hailing tight end. I'm straight, man. I ain't blocking nobody. I ain't, no. And y'all got, see, that's the difference for me. See, for football to basketball, intellectually, y'all are way smarter than what y'all seen.

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