Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Utah takes down Oklahoma State, Jerry Jones comments on Jamie Foxx IG live, Tom Brady mind games

Episode Date: September 22, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocino" Johnson react to Utah's big win over Oklahoma State. Later, Unc and Ocho go in on Jerry Jones' full denial of the Cowboys running back situation, his viral "meat" co...mments on Jamie Foxx's live video, Baker Mayfield says Tom Brady had the Bucs locker room stressed out and much more!03:18 - Jerry Jones' weird comments31:00 - NFL News57:00 - Q And Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:40 The Fan on Friday. And he went full-blown denial mode when asked about the team's current running back situation. This is a little bit of a first for me because I've never seen so much made of our position and what it's doing at the position running back. This year, not having done this or having done at running back.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Running back is just not on our radar as far as an area of interest. Really? Okay. Hold on. Let me finish reading what he said, Ochoa. I don't have anybody else in the world just not on our radar as far as an area of interest. Really? I mean, hold on. Let me finish reading what he said. I don't have anybody else in the world asking me about some media. A few of the media have gotten out here and written some
Starting point is 00:04:13 stories earlier about what's going on with a running back in the draft or how we need a running back. And they're going to try to cover their you know what as we go through the season. Over the two games, eight teams have fewer rushing attempts than the cowboys 46 they have 170 yards rushing only six teams have the mass fewer they're tied for the six lowest yards per carry average 3.7 the team's biggest ground game uh biggest yards that's come so far is 12 yards,
Starting point is 00:04:46 tying them with two other squads for the shortest long run. Elliott and Dowdell are dead even as a team leading Russia with 56 yards each. That puts them on 49th or 50th place among all ball carriers league-wide. In fact, they both rank lower than every other club, top Russia. 17 teams have more than half the NFL, two Russian ahead of them on this yardage list. Yeah. But he says it's not a problem, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:05:16 It's not a problem. Obviously, when you look at it from a statistical standpoint, listen, they're bad. They're at the bottom of the barrel in that category. But you have to remember, the position itself is not valuable anymore. They feel they can plug anybody in unless you're a top tier, one of the top tier, you know, your Nick Chubbs, your Christian McCaffrey's, you know, your Derrick Henry's. They had an opportunity to get Derrick Henry. They felt they didn't need Derrick Henry's, they had an opportunity to get Derrick Henry. They felt they didn't need Derrick Henry.
Starting point is 00:05:46 You know? And it just goes to show how teams and organizations owners as well feel about the running back position. We feel we can pull and plug. We can pull somebody from anywhere else and plug them in and they'll be fine because it is a now
Starting point is 00:06:01 past happy league. It's what they do. They throw the ball 60, 70 goddamn times a game. We'll run the ball every so often to keep it somewhat balanced to throw a defense off. But as far as needing a special running back or drafting a running back high, I mean, they're just not going to do it. How about you need more than what you got?
Starting point is 00:06:22 I ain't saying you got to take a quarterback or running back with a number one overall pick. But if you think you're got to take a quarterback, a running back with a number one overall pick. But what you going to, if you think you're going to win a title or you're going to go very far with this level of running game, man, Jerry, out of his mind. All of it.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Right. All of it. I mean, think about her. This is how delusional you must be. I think Zeke had a great start to his career. But you released Zeke because you didn't believe he had what it takes to get you to the next level. And then you bring him back. What, you thought that him going to New England,
Starting point is 00:06:57 that reinvigorated him, rejuvenated him, and now he coming back with the juice in the times that he had his first two, three years? Right. Did I miss something, Mocho? I mean, listen, continuity, familiarity with the offense, with the system, the players, the coaches, the staff, the organization in general.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I mean, they brought him back. But again, I think the releasing of Zeke was obviously, you know, it was money reasons. He was hurt. His knee was messed up. His last year in Dallas, he was money reasons. He was hurt. His knee was messed up. His last year in Dallas, he was wearing a brace at the time. He really wasn't the same Zeke due to those injuries
Starting point is 00:07:32 and those lingering issues. But now I think Zeke is somewhat healthy, I'd assume. He's not the Zeke of old, obviously. It's hard, Ocho, when you play that position and lose it. When have you ever known a running back to lose it and get it back? And get it back.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Yeah. It's difficult. It's difficult. That's really the one position. You've seen quarterbacks. You've seen wide receivers. You've seen DBs. You see Sherm, how he came back to life.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Hey, when he went to San Francisco. Right. Well, I know. Running backs, we don't normally see that, especially with the number of carries Zeke had on his legs early they ran him into the dirt
Starting point is 00:08:10 yeah they did well I did after injury I did see one running back come back after injury and didn't miss a beat and they called him all day but hold on he didn't lose it I'm saying lose it Zeke ain't lost it because this notion, hold on.
Starting point is 00:08:27 You saw Zeke, if you look at his rookie year, and his numbers kept doing this. Yeah. Adrian Peterson was still at the top of his game. Right. We just didn't know he could come back and pick up where he left off after injury. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:40 We thought it was going to take at least a year. Sheep. Because he tore that knee up in December. Mm-hmm. We thought it was going to take at least a year because he tore that knee up in December. He came back that following season and was eight yards short of breaking the nine yards short of the all-time record. He ran for 2097. He was the MVP. He never lost it.
Starting point is 00:09:02 But when he did, remember when he did? Arizona. How do you look at Arizona? how do you look at arizona how do you look at new orleans right when you lose it you lose it and try to recapture running backs don't get an opportunity now yeah if it's a spring forward or fall back you said you could turn the clock back right but that's the only thing you could turn back not on your body not with running back not with that kind of mileage because you have to realize that at that point in time, how many carries had
Starting point is 00:09:29 AP had? How many carries if Zeke had those running backs? You look at those running backs on show, you're talking about 1,000, 1,500. Right. 2,000 carries on those legs. Especially with the way Adrian Peterson plays. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Violent. Violent. He and Zeke was a run to collision. Right. They didn't dodge anything. Uh-uh. Now, that's a great running style.
Starting point is 00:09:56 They say, you see how tough I am. But after a while, Yeah. that catches up with you. They take a toll on you. Yeah. Look at Earl Campbell.
Starting point is 00:10:04 That's why Earl Campbell's career was so short. Earl was a run to contact. Oh, yeah. It was great. He lowered the boom. But I don't know if you've seen Earl. People have seen him. Man, hey, I don't wish that on nobody.
Starting point is 00:10:18 You barely will, huh? I don't think he can. He's been in a wheelchair ever since. I mean, damn. I mean, I think he stood. Didn't he stand one time after he went on the field at University of Texas? I think he can. He's been in a wheelchair ever since. I mean, damn. I mean, I think he stood. Didn't he stand one time after he went on the field at University of Texas? I think he stood when they had all the
Starting point is 00:10:31 Heisman Trophy. I think it was him and Ricky Williams. I think those are the only Heisman Trophy winners that they got at University of Texas. But yeah, man, his knees. He had a hell of a run. It was short, but it was a hell of a run. was short but it was a hell of a run when he was with the Oilers
Starting point is 00:10:49 nasty he was something special man man Ocho did you see Jerry Jamie Foxx was doing a live stream and he was talking about
Starting point is 00:11:11 some things okay put the video up I didn't want to talk about this but the chat y'all keep on y'all y'all y'all I don't know what hell Lord have mercy hey pretty good right there. You show balance.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Five, nine, and a half. Two, two. Five, nine, two, two. Four, four, one. Okay. Nine and three inch head. Eight and a half inch dick. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Hey, yo. What's wrong with Jerry man man I mean that's really not the conversation to be having no why am I having that conversation with another man especially in that environment I don't know what's wrong I don't know what's wrong with Jerry
Starting point is 00:12:02 maybe he didn't know Jamie was filming at the time. I'm not sure. Man, I ain't having no conversation. Me and no homeboys, my friends, my best friend Bucket, ain't nobody talking about no me. I mean,
Starting point is 00:12:16 that's a conversation that's really never, ever had. That's a conversation that's had. When you're with your lady, what you want for dinner tonight you're like I have some I was thinking about maybe maybe some pasta I said what about some tube steak you know
Starting point is 00:12:33 I got the tube steak ready well done nice and juicy for you I gotta use that one but I'm saying Ocho that ain't no conversation that you having with another man. I don't know what's wrong with Jerry. Oh, Lord.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I don't know if he was talking cold or was he trying to be funny or trying to be. I have no idea. I really have nothing to say about that. Jerry, Jerry, again, I'll say it again. He needs to sit down, take a back seat, let the players play, let the coaches coach, and let's see what happens.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Like you said, you're not going to let... There's certain conversations that guys just don't have. Yeah. That's one of them. Ain't nobody talking about no me. That's one of them. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah, Jerry, trip, boy. That's your boy, though? That's one of them. Come on, man. Yeah, Jerry Tripp, boy. That's your boy, though. That's your boy. Man, I'll be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. Hey, where you going with this? I mean, hey, you know, guys start talking. I'm like, hold on, where you going? So, hopefully it stops right here, right?
Starting point is 00:13:40 Because I don't need to hear nothing else, bro. Nah, I don't know what you... Huh? Not by that. Oh, come on, man. Ain't nobody managing no meat. Man, I don't know, man. Come on, man. Man, I done been a lot, man. I done been a lot of locker rooms.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Damn, in my whole life, I mean, what, I played from peewee all the way to my NFL career, I played 26 seasons of organized football in a lot of locker rooms. And when you're talking to a guy y'all in the shower, you keep eye contact.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Always. Straight ahead. Eye straight ahead. You never look left. You never look right. Same thing. Hey, listen. It's called etiquette. It's called shower etiquette. And it's called bathroom etiquette. At the urinal, for one, you go into a bathroom, even in public, even in the locker room, you always skip.
Starting point is 00:14:28 You always skip the urinal. Yeah, you don't got to sit next to somebody, Ocho. Never. And you always look forward. If you hold a conversation, you never look left or right. Yeah. Never. Ocho.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Guys, I ain't going to be rude. You know, I'm trying to be level. But, bro, I'm not shaking your hand. We at the urinal, don't you reach your damn hand across there and talk about what's up, huh? Not shaking your hand. I'm in the bathroom the other day. Get what the guy say.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Let's get a selfie. I say, not in here. Come on, now. Y'all do it. Come on, bro. Y'all do it too much hey in fact i only i only hey all i'm gonna do you give you a little head nod in the bathroom i give you a head nod hey we can have a conversation outside yeah we're not gonna have no conversation yeah a lot of people don't understand bathroom bad kid especially in public you might see someone who's shaking. Oh, Joe, I don't give a damn if I
Starting point is 00:15:26 know you. If I'm coming in the bathroom and you coming out, I ain't finna dap you up because I ain't show you wash your hands because I don't see too many people going there, drop mud, and come up out there, pull their pants up, and walk right up out of there. Drop mud? I like that. I ain't never heard
Starting point is 00:15:42 that. Drop mud, okay. Yeah, and walk right up out of there. I gotta hear you do that. I said, oh heard that. Drop mud. Okay. Yeah. It went right up out of there. I got to hear that. I said, oh, no, no, no, man. So that's why, hey, in the bathroom, I did, hey, yeah, nod. Hey, how you doing? But man, people, you don't realize how nasty people are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Until you go into the bathroom at airports. And then you see. You understand. Man, them jokers come up out of that thing, pull their pants up, grab their luggage and run right up out of there. I wouldn't eat at their house if I was a hostage.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Nah, they're going to let me starve. Keep me down here in the basement. Don't you break me. Ish. Nothing. Nasty mofo. Nah. Nah. They go pee, wash wash their hands bro damn how you walk right by the sink Ocho
Starting point is 00:16:30 cause normally the urinal is over there and you gotta walk by the sink to get out the door how you walk by to not wash your nasty ass hands and then you go order I see them standing right in the line ordering Chick-fil-A or Popeye. Pissing
Starting point is 00:16:48 hands. Oh, hell no. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. That's why, hey, the A. And you don't try to get on the fist bump. No, hey, let me shake it. Bro, there you go. Power. Power to the people.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Oh, hell no bathroom etiquette people bathroom etiquette you gotta learn that that's all I'm saying bro I don't think I'm better than you but I just know through my experience of traveling I've seen too many people
Starting point is 00:17:19 come in the bathroom and walk right up out of there after peeing or dropping mud. And then I'd be like, uh-uh. And do you think I'm supposed to just like, hey, just shake it, just have a conversation with you?
Starting point is 00:17:37 What you in town for? Bro, why we talking? Who having a conversation? What's so important that you got to have a conversation in the bathroom? Am I wrong? I mean, people might think, bro,
Starting point is 00:17:55 I'm not fit to have no conversation with you in the bathroom. How long you in town? I say one thing. If you try to engage in conversation, I'm going to let y'all side, bro. Yeah in conversation I'm gonna let y'all side bro yeah I'm gonna let y'all side this is okay bro I mean
Starting point is 00:18:11 and people hey Ojo the people me and Ash and Joe were traveling yesterday so we all sitting we got our luggage we got a little thing blocked in dudes say hey you mind if I sit down and talk to y'all hey look at me Jordan looked at me we got a little thing blocked in. Dude said, hey, you mind if I sit down and talk to y'all? Hey, look at me. Jordan looked at me.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I look at my bags. Sure. I'm like, okay. What y'all been talking about? We were just talking. What the hell were we? D.C. We we? D.C. We were in D.C. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:47 We got delayed. So, you know, we just sat down, you know, we just sat down talking, laughing. Yeah. And the guy just kept hovering around, you know, like, and you know me, Ochoa, I ain't trying to make no eye contact. Okay, yeah. You think eye contact is over. Ash ain't no good ventriloquist or nothing. You know, the guy, I was like, whoosh.
Starting point is 00:19:03 That guy, Jordan, like, hey, you're right. You're right, boss. Like, yeah, I was like, that guy, Jordan, like, Hey, you're right. So you, so you're right, boss. Like, yeah, I see it.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And like, he gonna come up. I'm like, Hey, sure enough. Here you go. Game up. Uh,
Starting point is 00:19:18 you, you mind if I, uh, mind if I, uh, sit down and talk to you. About what? Hey man, I just want to engage
Starting point is 00:19:28 in a little conversation, man. Get a chance to know you personally. They see you on TV. They see you on Nightcap. And it's an honor. It's an honor. You have to understand. Normally, when I go into a public, when I go into a bathroom, I'm trying to hold my breath. It's stinking there.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Okay, you're right. You're right. I ain't trying to talk. I gotta breathe in order to a bathroom, I'm trying to hold my breath. It's stinking there. Okay, you're right. I ain't trying to talk. I gotta breathe in order to talk. I ain't trying to breathe them fumes in. But you also have to understand who you are. People don't really have a chance to see you often. You know, so anytime they get a chance...
Starting point is 00:19:59 Wait two minutes, you can see me outside. Even if it's in the bathroom. They're gonna say something. As soon as I hit the door i hold my breath oh man oh that's crazy i think i'm out people just got to because i ain't going i ain't never going i ain't going to oh no i wait right right definitely ain't going on. Oh, no, I'll wait. Right. Definitely ain't going. Oh, and the bad, please. Oh, you don't do number two in public? Oh, no. I wish I might. Well, listen, if I
Starting point is 00:20:31 gotta go. Half the time, guys, look like somebody done smashed a pumpkin against the wall. Oh, hell no. I know what you mean. That ain't nasty. Listen, I'm using the bad. If I gotta, number two, most of the time in public restrooms,
Starting point is 00:20:48 they don't have... Nah, I'm good. I'll wait. I can wait. You put a toilet seat cover on now. You know, to protect. But they ain't got no toilet seat covers in there. People done peed all on the floor. Aw, man, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:21:01 But they ruining the bathroom like that. In the airport you know people don't give a damn about no airport they done peed all over the seat and everything oh nah I ain't never had that problem nah I'm good I'll wait
Starting point is 00:21:18 I'll be constipated I'll have to go to the emergency room and let them give me an enema I ain't going in no public bathroom that ain't happening damn sure ain't going to no public bathroom. That ain't happening. Damn sure ain't going to no airport. If they don't have the toilet seat covers that they normally have in there, you take the toilet tissue and you lay it down. Hey, you got two sides.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Two down the side, two down the top. I'd rather go, what you call them? I'd rather pull aside the road and go in the woods. Nah. Okay, well, you know what? You're used to that. I keep a roll of toilet paper in my car. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Okay, that visual, that's a little nasty. I'm going to pull aside the road on 16, go into my grandma's house plenty of times and run off in the woods. Put the flashes on, pull right side of the road, right down 16, run in the woods and go do what I do and come right on up, up back out of there. Oh, it was just tissue. You got no wipes. I had no wife back then. I got wife now, but that's been about,
Starting point is 00:22:21 probably about 13, 14 years ago. Cause I had been to Glenville in that list. I had been to Glenville since 2012. Yeah. Okay. I got you. Yeah, okay. I got you. I got you. I got you. But oh yeah. I got a wife now. Yeah. You better than me, boy. I'm public. But you know back in the day, Ocho, they didn't have no tissue. You had corn cobs. That's when somebody
Starting point is 00:22:39 said, oh, I'm in the country of the corn cob in our house. That's what you used to clean your butt with. Everybody have no toilet paper? Yeah, I don't want to shoot. I got a little bidet and all at the house, man. Huh? A bidet. Oh, yeah, a bidet.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Got to make sure that... It's a bidet. It's a bidet. Okay, okay, my bad. I don't know the pronunciation of it. But you know, you do realize now you got the toilets that'll do all that. Oh, yeah, that's. I don't know the pronunciation of it. But you know, you do realize now you got the toilets that'll do all that.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Oh yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I mean, she got those. Listen, I walk in my bathroom, the toilet, the seat raised up on its own. And when you get away from it, it goes down and flushes itself. It automatically has a light in it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Yeah, got a little blue light. Oh no, but see, I ain't gonna have those problems because they're only certain things It automatically has a light in it. Yeah. Yeah. Got a little blue light. Oh, no. But see, I ain't going to have those problems because there are only certain things that I'm going to eat when I'm in an airport. I already know what's going to be because I got, you know, I got lactate. I got a modium. I got certain. I got Pepto tablets. I got all.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I got. I got all that stuff in a little container. So I already know what I can and can't eat. Right. And normally Shelly's already done briefed me. Okay. What do they have for breakfast? What do they have for lunch?
Starting point is 00:23:49 I can do the eggs probably could do, uh, you know, they got chicken sausage or something, something like that. I already know I ain't doing the yogurt. I ain't doing the cold cereal. No,
Starting point is 00:24:00 I mess with nothing. If they got anything, they got something to do with apples. I don't fool with it. Cause I already know. No dairy. No dairy. Period. Okay. I don't eat everything.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Ocho, let me ask you this. Yeah. If you were on the plane next to someone and they were snoring, what would you do? If they were snoring? Yeah. You know, if you're on the plane
Starting point is 00:24:26 and next to somebody snoring, you just tap them lightly. Like, not to wake them up, but just tap them lightly. If you tap them lightly, it throws the snoring off rhythm. I'm waking them up. Listen, it gives you a little grace.
Starting point is 00:24:41 It gives you a little grace. But if you wake them up and they go back to sleep, they're going to go right back to snoring but when you tap someone and and you and you kind of get their attention a little bit without waking them up it stops them from snoring for for for a little bit because real real snore real snore real sound like a rhino she said but you know what you signed up for that. Look, I ain't got no
Starting point is 00:25:08 problem with that. I'm like, damn, you know, I might touch him. If you next to me and you snoring, oh, I woke a guy up. I said, my man. Is everything okay? No, you snoring. So what happens if you date somebody that you're in love with?
Starting point is 00:25:23 I don't have no problem. I'm going to tell you, you know, normally if somebody is snoring, your girl snoring, right, right. You touch them.
Starting point is 00:25:33 They're going to like, you know, they're going to move a little bit. Yeah. And they stop. See? Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Yeah. I mean, I, I wouldn't, you know, that's a, that's a great question. It's a hypothetical.
Starting point is 00:25:44 It's a situation that is really never happened to me. I just know, I'm speaking from personal experience at home, when you're snoring, you just touch him a little bit or move him, and then the snoring stops for a few seconds. No, but I ain't pay that kind of money sitting in that seat to hear you snore for three hours. Oh, no, that ain't going to happen. You can't control that, huh?
Starting point is 00:26:05 I know, I can't. I woke his ass up. Y'all didn't pay for this. Oh, hell nah. Oh, no. Hell nah. Some things gotta be in control, huh? That's what you call them. I know somebody, uh... He told my man, don't wake me up. Bull jive.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Bull jive that's hey that's why we put you in the back right you gotta go you gotta go to the back because first of all even if you put jordan can be in the first seat behind first class he gonna be the last one get off the plane he don't let everybody get off the plane. I'm like, Jordan! What are you doing? Let everybody grab their bags and go before him. So guess what I do now? I'm gone. I'll see you at the hotel. Oh, you asked, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Man, I'm not going to wait. Man, Ash, last year, where is George? Ash, where? Ash is like, I don't know. He was right behind me. He done got everybody. I'm like, George, you don't work for these people. He done got everybody bagged down.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And handed them down? And handed them their bag. Like being a good Samaritan. At times, it makes you feel good about yourself. Yeah, he was a good Samaritan. Hey, guess what? Guess where I be? At the hotel. At the hotel, in my room by the time he get there.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Yeah. You're not finna have me. Because he already know. The more I wait, people done got the plane. They done saw me. They want to take pictures. They want to take autographs. Okay, I see what you mean.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I said, hey, don't worry about it. Well, Shelly, like Jordan's in the back. That's where he's supposed to be. Give me a good head start. I got a reason to leave his ass now. Oh, no. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Some days I wish
Starting point is 00:28:14 that I was the one It could be me and you and it would be so fun All I know. It could have been you. Why would you leave me? Don't tell me no. Well, you're terrible.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Girl. Long as you know it's me. I don't care whether you see. I don't. That's one. I feel good, man. Call Sark first. It ain't on anymore now. Well, it wasn't on to begin with so I don't know
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Starting point is 00:29:46 Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that. May is Mental Health Awareness Month,
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Starting point is 00:30:35 podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide, and hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn.
Starting point is 00:32:14 In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see. Muhammad Ali was never afraid to express himself loudly and boldly and stays true to form in Ali and Me, an eight-part audible original. Guided by his own words, this series explores Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction. Those convictions never wavered. Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lonnie Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:49 As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. Oh, Joe, Baker Mayfield said Tom Brady intensity led to a stressed locker room. The building was a little different when Tom was here. Obviously, playing-wise, Tom is different. He had everybody dialed in, high-strung environment, so I think everybody was pretty stressed out. They wanted me to come in and be myself,
Starting point is 00:34:29 bring the joy back to the football for our guys who weren't having much fun. Baker said Brady had very different personalities. He and Brady have very different personalities. Brady would play mind games that included unseen battle between quarterback and play caller. You hear some of the stories about it didn't play a certain call. If a certain play was called and he didn't like it throughout the week and they still called a play in the game,
Starting point is 00:34:51 there might have been a throwaway on purpose or throwing it at the running back or the receiver's feet. There's a lot of mind games going on. You got a problem with Baker airing out secrets. I mean, no, not at all. I mean, those aren't bad secrets. If you understand what it takes to win and based on Tom's resume
Starting point is 00:35:09 and what he's done in the past, it obviously works for him. He went from New England and went to Tampa Bay and won a Super Bowl his first year there. So obviously the secrets that he is letting out and exposing is a good thing. Now it might not work for Baker,
Starting point is 00:35:25 but it worked for Tom. And there's a reason why they got a goddamn Lombardi because of those secrets that he's talking about. You mean to tell me like highly successful people want things a certain way and they expect it to be that way. Yeah, most definitely. Oh,
Starting point is 00:35:41 most definitely. Most definitely. Especially those that know what it takes to win. Yeah. Each his own. Each his own. Well, you should know. You played with him.
Starting point is 00:35:56 This ain't no surprise to you. Yeah, and also, the funny thing about it is, the New England time Brady and the Tampa Bay time Brady, you got to see his personality. You got to see the New England time Brady and the Tampa Bay time Brady you got to see his personality you got to see the fun side of Brady you got to see Brady on social media you got to see Brady the content creator
Starting point is 00:36:13 man some of those videos were creative and you got to see a different side of him that was more fun it was more relatable even if you didn't play the game of football but it's cool. Look, I understand. I understand. That's how Mike – look, Mike, I think the thing is, like,
Starting point is 00:36:32 Mike allowed us to have fun, but we knew when it was time to work, it was time to work. Oh, yeah, time to work, yeah. I made sure that because I like the privileges that we had. He let us be loose, but it was my responsibility to make sure that when we showed up to practice, we showed up to walkthrough, except that one day they came out there with
Starting point is 00:36:49 flip-flops and Tims on and walked through. I might say that ish won't ever happen again. I say, see, you can't let us have nothing. I say, y'all know better. Y'all know how Mike is. We're going to take it too far every time. Me? Look,
Starting point is 00:37:12 that's Baker told that. I wouldn't have told it. I'm not surprised that Tom was wired like this. You don't win that much by accident. Things have to be because that's what he's used to where did he come from
Starting point is 00:37:27 people that were in the military they normally have a very strict household because they're used to structure make your bed put your shoes up take your shoes off put them dishes up don't leave dishes in the sink
Starting point is 00:37:43 put that trash away. Take that trash out. That's how my grandfather was. So structure. I thrive in structure. Now, I come home and stuff is out of whack. Why?
Starting point is 00:38:00 I just need to know why. Because I'm the one that's left for work. Right. So, yeah, you say, are you looking? Yeah, that's the look. That's the look. Now you see. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:16 It's got to be a certain way. I work well with structure. I work well with discipline. But I don't believe, you know look people love tom i don't think anybody's surprised by this when you win like he's won you see him on the sideline when things are not going his way guys dropping passes or things are if they're not in sync right so i'm not surprised one bit by this. I'm not surprised at all. Yeah, it's not a bad thing either.
Starting point is 00:38:47 It's not a bad thing. I think if we were talking about something that wasn't successful, what they were doing, and still had that same approach to it, we're... Oh, no, you can't... Well, I don't see our situation that you can be like that because ain't nobody going to listen to you if you're not successful. Nobody gives a D.
Starting point is 00:39:03 There you go. So you've got to have a level of success coach belichick had he not won early in new england you think he'll listen to him and let him let him get away with what he got away with absolutely not absolutely not absolutely not in the same thing with tom because tom had won so much hey what do we got to lose yeah We ain't won jack in 20 years. Here we go. Why not? That's why
Starting point is 00:39:30 if you win, guys will follow you. It's easier to get people to follow you when you're winning as opposed to when you're losing. They're like, Ojo, you know this. I mean, we lose a couple of games. Hey, stop sitting on your helmet.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Oh, so that's why we lost the game because I'm sitting on my helmet now. Yeah. Oh, pick up the trash. So the team knew we had a dirty locker room. Oh, they got a dirty locker room. We're going to run through them. Right. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:39:57 They find every little thing. Why are we losing? Everything is magnified. The locker room was dirty when we was winning, too. Everything's magnified. It locker room was dirty when we was winning, too. Everything's magnified. It is. It absolutely is. According to Adam Schefter, several teams have
Starting point is 00:40:12 expressed interest in trading for Bryce Young. You're never going to get what you gave up to get it. Despite the fact Dave Canales said Carolina Panthers did not intend to trade a former number one overall pick. He said you weren't going to bench him either. According to Schefter, although the Panthers have said they don't plan to trade Young at this time,
Starting point is 00:40:28 sources around the league believe it's only a matter of time before Carolina actually does complete a deal. I'd like to see him. I'd like to see a change of scenery. I'd like to see a change of scenery. Where he goes is very important. I'm not sure if he'll be a starter, but maybe due to injury, based on where he goes, if a starting quarterback'm not sure if he'll be a starter but maybe
Starting point is 00:40:45 due to injury based on where he goes if a starting quarterback goes down and he's able to get in there um with the an adequate offense with a good supporting cast then we can get to see the bryce young that we're used to seeing when he was at alabama and it's unfortunate that it came to this and i think the benching is so early and only his second year because of the impatience of Mr. Tepper, and Dave Kanellis knows that very well. The fire Frank Wright, 11 games in in the season because things weren't going well, Mr. Kanellis knows that as well. He knows his leash is short if they don't continue to win,
Starting point is 00:41:23 and he just felt that they couldn't win Bryce Young at the time. And he's going to learn. I don't think much is going to change with Andy Dalton at the helm, too. No. Again, if Andy Dalton is the answer, I need to know the question you're asking. Second of all,
Starting point is 00:41:40 do you realize how far you would have set this organization back? Because if you miss that, you miss on that guy. Yeah. Now, you're probably not going to be in a position to draft another one. And if you do, then what? If you don't surround, if you draft another quarterback and you don't surround him with anything, the same thing is going to happen to that quarterback that happened to this one. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Describe one. And it's probably going to keep happening until they draft right. It's probably going to keep happening. And I'm not, look, the way he treated Steve Wilkes after he turned that program around with Matt Rule, and you didn't even give him a...
Starting point is 00:42:17 I don't wish bad. I'm just like my grandma used to say, boy, I don't wish bad on nobody, but I sure don't wish good on them either. So I'm not saying I wish bad boy, I don't wish bad on nobody, but I sure don't wish good on them either. So, I'm not saying I wish bad, but I don't wish prosperity either. I just think
Starting point is 00:42:32 he's handled some situations very poorly. I think Steve Wilks deserves an opportunity to get that job, and hopefully another opportunity presents itself for Steve, but that was a very, I mean, he doesn't have patience. I don't know how he thought he was going to be a great owner without patience.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Because you got to have that, Ocho. You got to have that. That's rule number one. That's rule number one in business in general. Forget owning a team, being an entrepreneur, running a business. And now we talk about the NFL. Like you can't use money and buy your way into winning it takes time
Starting point is 00:43:10 yeah it takes time and then you know they show the situation I think his ex is dating Tyrese Max I think he's like that's on his mind you see what I said Ocho you think so you see if you keep your stuff private if you keep your stuff private,
Starting point is 00:43:25 if you keep your stuff private, you can break up in private. Yeah. If you date publicly, you're going to have to break up publicly. And then everybody's going to start speculating. That's why he's playing bad. You know what?
Starting point is 00:43:38 That may or may not be the case. Yeah, I mean... But I've seen guys, they have no girlfriend and play like crap. Yeah. Guys be married and play terrible. Mm-hmm. I mean, we I've seen guys, they have no girlfriend and play like crap. Yeah. Guys be married and play terrible. Mm-hmm. I mean, we got to stop automatically assume because somebody's playing bad,
Starting point is 00:43:51 there's something going on in their lives that's leading them to play bad. Yeah. That's not always the case. Now, that can be the case. Have I seen it? Yes. Yeah, yeah. It can be a distraction.
Starting point is 00:44:01 It can be a distraction. But I don't think that played a factor. I'm assuming they probably haven't been together for a while, especially for her to be moving on like that in public. What do you mean moving on? What am I supposed to do, wait? I mean, you know what I'm trying to say. I'm saying it.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. They've been done. We just catching wind up because she's just going in public now. She's not yours. It's just your turn. I mean, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I mean, is there a time limit on Joe? You break up, you break up with some, you break up with somebody. Is there the time limit in which you can go public with another person? No, no,
Starting point is 00:44:40 I don't think it's a time limit, but I think for those that, for those, nah, you need to grovel. I need to know you hurt. Cause if you, if you right away, you don't think it's a time limit, but I think for those that, for those... Nah, you need to grovel. I need to know you hurt, because if you right away, you ain't love me anyway. Listen, forget about love.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Forget about love. If she moves on right away, she was already talking to that individual, you know, planting that seed while y'all was still together. That's why the transition... You say so, Joe? That's why the transition and moving on
Starting point is 00:45:01 was so easy, because she, for one, she was already mentally checked out anyway. And she moves on and moves on fast. That person was already in play anyway. And if you're smart, if you have a better understanding anyway, if she's willing to deal with you while you're with me, at some
Starting point is 00:45:15 point, as time goes on, then you're going to get the same treatment too. The cycle never ends. The cycle never ends. My grandpa used to say, boy, if they they cheat with you they'll cheat on you yeah hey don't let that go over y'all here chat right hey listen i i've said i've said it before myself i've said i've said it before myself whatever they're willing to do with you when they're not yours, they will do to you when they belong to you.
Starting point is 00:45:47 And the cycle will continue to repeat itself over and over and over and over, no matter what. Man, Ocho, you say they do what they do for you, and you know they knew. Because you say all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:46:01 woman start working out? Grandfather said, boy, she get ready for somebody else to see her naked. because you say all of a sudden woman start working out grandpa say boy you get ready for somebody else to see her naked boy that's what you just slumped out of that trip like real yeah that's the wonderful thing what we call life
Starting point is 00:46:18 and one thing about human nature one thing about human nature human nature is undefeated. It is, Ocho. It is. Undefeated. You can post as many quotes as you want.
Starting point is 00:46:34 You can say everything you want. And that would be, they'd be killing me with that, Ocho. And don't live by a nan bit of it. They quit. They quit. God. God in my life.
Starting point is 00:46:44 God child. What? Don't live by a nan bit of quit. God. God in my life. God child. What? Don't live by a damn bit of it. Yeah. They got a head on the Bible and dude beating her back in. But she God child. Okay. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Child. Bad. Hey, listen. Experience. 20 years of experience. man hey listen experience 20 years of experience nothing is going to get bad nothing is going to fly bro I ain't got somebody say man that's not true my old lady 17 years
Starting point is 00:47:27 when she was somebody i had i had on the side to begin bro i i can't say what he said i don't hear it's not gone now but he'd be okay he said he must hit a nerve because he sure puts up in the chat quick Since you since you think things so good. Yeah, I should see a phone real quick Hey Tell it to your old lady since she so she's so cool, right? Yeah, that's got the blue Then let's you see your phone see if she hand over to you real quick Let me know how that go
Starting point is 00:48:05 Yeah to see your phone, see if she handed it over to you real quick. Let me know how that go. Yeah. Out of the blue. Everybody in the chat, fellas, if you got a girl, just ask out of the blue. Tell her to hand you her phone and answer the password real quick. Be quick. Oh, God. God first.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Mother two, mother three, God first. Yeah, you on your knees, all right. But you ain't praying. You probably said, oh, Lord three, God first. Yeah, you on your knees, all right. But you ain't praying. Yeah. You probably said, oh, Lord, he killing me. Yeah. Thank you, Slick. But Andre Johnson beating Corlin Finnegan has been recreated as a toy.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Ocho, do we have it? Look at this, Ocho. Yeah. Hey, listen, I saw these early on Twitter. I'm not sure what this is made of. I don't know what this figurine is
Starting point is 00:48:51 but that is dope. It's live. That is. It's really, really live. I don't know if Andre, if Dre saw this but I know he's probably going to see it
Starting point is 00:48:59 because he watches the show. Dre, you got to get one of these, Dre. Hell, I want to get one and have Dre mine will be what you call them? Yeah, get Dre decided.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Mine will be the one I crack back on Perry Phoenix. I had to get it. I like that. Nah, bro. I like that. I like that. Nah. Nah, bro. Hey, look. To each his own, man.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Ocho and I ain't trying to start no problem, man. To each his own. Nah. Ocho. Yes, sir. Check this out. A woman calls out single successful men for not wanting to date single moms. This is what she tweeted.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Uh-oh. She said, single successful men that don't date women with kids is so sassy to me. Baby, how you a grown man but scared of some kids? No, I'm scared of your kids. How you allow some kids
Starting point is 00:49:57 to let you miss out on a good woman? If it was so good, the last dude would have kept you. If giving, it's giving you weak. You see how they try to use reverse psychology? Hold on. She trying to guilt trip us? I mean, I really can't say that because I only date women with kids.
Starting point is 00:50:20 But that's your choice. That's my choice. Can't nobody guilt trip you into that? Yeah, so she can't be guilt tripping. So, I mean, obviously, a lot of women, they think they're good. I mean, that's a great thing. It's always good to believe in yourself and have confidence in yourself that you are the catch. But you have but you have to realize at some point reality has to set in that if you are who you thought you were, if you were as good as you thought you were, those that had opportunity to be with you, you would be kept.
Starting point is 00:50:48 You would be kept and you would be put up. You're going to talk about y'all sassy. No, they just don't want to deal with... Well, clearly, when you met that guy, you didn't have no kids. Or you met somebody before they gave you kids. And they didn't want no kids. Right. Or you met somebody before they gave you kids.
Starting point is 00:51:05 And they didn't want you then. Yeah. Sometimes people want their own collection of trophies. You can go buy a trophy. Yeah. You can go buy a trophy fish. But a lot of times
Starting point is 00:51:16 people want to catch their own. I want to hold a pole. I want to reel him in, Ocho. I like that. I like that. See, that's why I got you. I don't have no problem. See, the problem that I have
Starting point is 00:51:28 in like, like, like, some women, like if I say I want a woman to be this height, I want her to have this kind of complexion. I want her to have, oh, shout out, he like color, see?
Starting point is 00:51:39 The man doesn't let him know that his sisters ain't no good. But women can say, I want a man over six foot tall. I want him to be successful. I want him to have X amount of dollars. I want him to be this big. Women can say they want this for a man.
Starting point is 00:51:52 But the moment a man say he want this on a woman, oh my goodness. Yeah, listen, it's a one-way street for them. All women have preferences on what they like the men that they want to deal with have to check certain boxes and when it comes to us we can't have a preference and if the preference is not predicated
Starting point is 00:52:15 towards what they look like or what they dress like then it's an issue it's an issue it's the way it is but women all the time Ocho I want a man that makes six figures issue. It's an issue. It's the way it is. But women all the time, Ocho, I want a man that makes six figures.
Starting point is 00:52:29 I want a man this tall. But let me say, I want a woman between the height of 5'8 and 6'. I wanted to have long hair. I wanted to be light-skinned, whatever the case may be. I wanted to be this. I want to be that.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Oh, you discriminate. You don't like this. You don't like that. But y'all do that. But women get to choose. Like, I want this man to be this. And it ain't no problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:58 But the moment a man says he want a woman to be that, that's what he's looking for. Oh, oh. But you also have to understand, listen, you what he's looking for. Oh. You also have to understand. Listen, you can want whatever you want. You can have whatever preferences that you want and may believe in. But the chances of you
Starting point is 00:53:15 getting everything and checking all those boxes are slim to none. You ain't going to find everything, Ocho. No, you're not going to find everything. A lot of women live in delusion. A lot of women live in delusion and not reality. And that's okay. I want everyone. I want
Starting point is 00:53:31 even men, even the fellas. I want everybody to get what their heart desires. I want that for them. I want everybody happy. And why do you care, Ocho? It's just not realistic on some time. Yeah. Oh, you got a type yep sure do sure do and you ain't it
Starting point is 00:53:52 so it's okay yeah i i don't it doesn't bother me if I don't if I'm not I'm not everybody's cup of tea me neither me neither you know somebody's like I want somebody in their 50s and I'm in my 30s or I'm in my 40s okay fine I don't want somebody
Starting point is 00:54:17 that don't like to do x y and z okay fine but I know so me women can say oh Shannon that's why you single a woman can't pay so now all i ask just don't pass gas in front of me close the door when you go to the bathroom but you can want i want six foot tall i want college educated i want somebody between the ages of 30 and 35 i want somebody to make six figures i want somebody you got seven things i asked for two and now that's why i'm singing you
Starting point is 00:54:47 know what's funny when you think about it too and women women that in the chat i really want you to have everything you want i want you to have everything that your heart desires especially when it comes to men and whoever you want to make you happy but the more things that you want the more preferences that you that that you want in a man, the more the pool of men that you have to choose from. They shrink, yeah. It shrinks significantly. That makes it seem like it's like 35 million men out here making six figures. Listen, you know, social media makes it seem like your options are unlimited.
Starting point is 00:55:23 But reality will set in some. It will. It will. I want you to date. Look, I want you to date whatever you want. Because I damn sure am. Hopefully my daughter
Starting point is 00:55:39 in the bed asleep. I got lucky. Hopefully my daughter asleep. She be trying to regulate. I say, I'm the dad. I'm the parent. Right, right, right, right, right, right. Tell my dad I need to meet anybody that you talk to. I need to meet them first. What? No, you
Starting point is 00:55:55 don't. I thought you was off the market like Boston. No. Who told you that? Did anybody tell you that? I mean, shoot, the market like Boston. No. Okay. Who told you that? Did anybody tell you that? I mean, sure. But it sounded like it not too long ago.
Starting point is 00:56:11 You know, you know. Hey, I got a simple philosophy. Yes, sir. Those that know won't tell. Right. Those that tell won't know. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I like that. Because everybody talking, that tell won't know. Okay. I like that. Everybody talking. Don't nobody know nothing. If they knew so much about me, they know. I'm with you. But anyway. They don't. You know, I got to work
Starting point is 00:56:43 the Panthers game tomorrow. What you doing? You know, I'm doing the stuff with EA. You know, the man. Okay, yeah. So I get to be field side for as long as I want to. But, you know, I get to talk to the players.
Starting point is 00:56:58 So I can't wait to see Bryce Young tomorrow. I got to give young bull, you know, a piece of my mind, especially when he's questioning himself. I just want to make sure his head is in a good space. I want to make sure his head is in a good space. I think hearing from you would be really dope. It'd be dope. Just give me a little
Starting point is 00:57:15 pick-me-up. Don't ever question yourself. I looked in the mirror. Please, don't ever do that, man. Man, I think the thing for me, Ocho, I just like being,
Starting point is 00:57:32 let me get like 10 minutes on the sideline, speak to a couple of players. I didn't go sit down. I can't stand that long, man. I ain't worse than that. Ash be laying down. They're the place that we gonna go to Ash ain't gonna be Ash they ain't the place
Starting point is 00:57:45 that we gonna go that Ash ain't gonna be laying down right I was like you comfortable she done took the blanket off the couch
Starting point is 00:57:52 she's sleeping you comfortable mhm the airport she done got comfortable yeah yeah oh yeah
Starting point is 00:58:01 that's the thing if I if there's anywhere for me to lay down and go to sleep real quick take me a little nap or it's going to get taken nah
Starting point is 00:58:09 I don't really like to do too much I don't want nobody messing with me right I ain't a pleasant person when I wake up yeah you mean you mean you mean I ain't a pleasant person when I wake up so I don't be don't play with me while I'm asleep You mean, you mean, you mean. Asher with a shake of the head.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I had a pleasant person when I wake up. So I don't be, don't play with me while I'm asleep. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain.
Starting point is 00:58:59 This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there,
Starting point is 01:00:09 and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No.
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Starting point is 01:03:12 Now it's time for Q&A. East Coast Cavs said, two people you don't bet against, Jesus Christ and Deion Sanders. Man, that was an unbelievable game, man. I don't know. We could have spent a whole hour just talking about that game, how good it was. Who they got next again? Who does Colorado play
Starting point is 01:03:33 next week, Ash? Who? Oh, they play UCF in Boulder? Or they go to Florida? Okay, they go to Central Florida. They go to Orlando. But that's down the street. I might go check that game out.
Starting point is 01:03:54 I might go check that game out. Vivian Ekimi. But can the number of wins his team, Travis, affect his nomination? Yes. I think if they get the six or seven wins, hell, I mean, that happened, I'm trying to think the lowest number of wins.
Starting point is 01:04:13 The lowest, fewest wins the team had was Paul Horning. I think they had five. Right. And he won the Heisman. I think if he can get to seven, I think seven would be a cutoff because he's having such an unbelievable season i think seven wins could he could win it with seven yeah but normally they want you to
Starting point is 01:04:30 have nine ten what did uh uh jay jay daniels have last year uh he had two losses i thought unless you lost twice last year yeah i think so oh they lost once. I know they lost to Alabama. Yeah, that's the only one I remember. Didn't they lose the Florida State Open? Or was that two years ago? They were 10-3. They lost three games last year. Damn.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Yeah, see? I know that because remember they lost they lost over it last year okay to Florida State oh Florida State was good last year I don't know what they had wrong this year
Starting point is 01:05:09 hold on did Florida State win today I don't know did Florida State even play today that's the question they had a bad well shit
Starting point is 01:05:17 they've been on the bat the past three weeks so Vivian also said today is my daughter's 11th birthday happy birthday Elania Elania Elena? Elena, I think it's Elena
Starting point is 01:05:34 man they be spelling these names so funky now but happy birthday happy 11th birthday Elena your mom wants to wish you a very very happy birthday hopefully you enjoyed it. Had some friends, family, loved ones over. You got a chance to celebrate.
Starting point is 01:05:50 You got great gifts. Happy birthday to you. Florida State beat Cal, Ocho. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Relaxing said, Shador Sanders, QB1, Dallas Cowboys, man cover 26.
Starting point is 01:06:08 How are you going to get there? And they just played Dak 60 million. I don't know. Maybe, maybe. Brandon Holman said, how do you guys feel about the NC State player spitting on the Clemson player? Do you think he will be disciplined? No, I'd handle that right there.
Starting point is 01:06:30 That's the worst thing you can do to somebody. You spit on the ground. So you telling me I'm the ground. Yeah. That's what you telling me. Yeah. Boy. I didn't.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Hey, Ocho, as soon as he did it, pow! Yeah, right away. He might have been getting ready to yell somebody's name, but the mere fact that he put... Boy, please. Oh, they're going to take disciplinary actions most definitely. Do you know how nasty that is?
Starting point is 01:07:02 Very. Very. Somebody else is smiling out they mouth, hitting your face, hitting anywhere on your body at that for that matter. I don't play that. Look, don't even play that. There's certain things,
Starting point is 01:07:18 especially, like I said, I don't know, like I said, I can't speak to people that were raised in California, people that were raised in New York or something like that. But I'm talking about the South and being black. Man, don't play with me. I don't even play them type of games, Ocho. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Don't do that. Just, hey, let's just go ahead. Let's just go ahead and part ways. Somebody gets seriously hurt. Oh, spit it out. somebody gets seriously hurt. Oh. Spit it on him. Just thinking about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:52 But see, that's the thing. I don't get Ocho. He mad about it. Don't spit on me. But he tear some booty cheeks up. Make it make sense, Ocho. Who? Ocho Cinco Johnson. No, that's different, though.
Starting point is 01:08:04 See, listen. You take the spit and you use it You know like a lubricant You feel me I'm going to send you one of my tutorials So you can try it And now don't you send me nothing I'm about to block you all
Starting point is 01:08:17 I'm about to block your number You say it As if it's you say it in a demeaning way But if you see the visual representation of how it's done, then you get a better understanding on why you should be doing it. So I have some tutorials, man, on some things that you can do to evolve in that area of your life. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Yeah, but they should. The NC State player should be disciplined. He should have got his ass whipped on the field yeah uh right there on the spot but yeah yeah don't do that that's that's that's that's nasty i don't even know what what was in today's time on show i don't even know what would possess somebody to even do that so because whatever happens to you after that right is this he deserves because you know the quick after that, he's deserved. The first thing he's going to say, well, he didn't have to do him like that. Yes, he did.
Starting point is 01:09:09 It's deserved. My grandmother used to always say, boy, I might not stop him from doing it, but I'll break him out of habit. He might have had a habit of doing that, but I'll break that up. I'll get that up on you. Real quick. Boy, that's nasty. Ugh.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Kripper Norwood Jr., my question is, will the Ravens defense show up tomorrow, or are they witness protection? I'm not a Cowboy fan. It's a good game. It's going to be a very, very, very, very good game. And one of the problems that the Cowboys defense has, they still have no girth in that middle.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Yeah. They got Derrick Henry coming straight downhill, so it could be a long day for the Cowboys. It can be a long day. One of the things for the Cowboys that they don't have to deal with, they're not dealing with a gun slinging type quarterback where they can throw in the ball 200 times a game. They're going to run the ball methodically down the field, play action.
Starting point is 01:10:12 They have a few plays out of RPO. You know, I got the Ravens. I think Lamar Jackson is going to have a big day running the football. I got him going over a hundred. Yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Hell, I got Derek Henry going over a hundred as well. And because, because the running game is going to be successful, he's going to have a great day passing the ball as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Laney Ray, Ocho. Saw your Ocho predicto segment today. Who y'all picking for the Texans Vikings even though I already know the answer Ravens Cowboys tomorrow yeah Vikings and you got Ravens Cowboys yeah I think I think Ocho Predicto I actually had
Starting point is 01:10:58 to pick I picked the Texans to win I picked the Texans I like the Texans too I got the Texans and the I got the Texans and the Ravens. Yeah. I mean, you know what's funny? What's that? The Ravens, I don't see the Ravens really starting 0-3,
Starting point is 01:11:15 but I also don't see the Cowboys losing again like they did last week. After what the Saints put on them, I think I'm assuming i'd hope that they bounce back this week i'd hope that they're still one dimensional offense oh joe yeah they could just the cowboys the cowboys are built you mentioned they don't have the size up front yeah built to play with a lead they're not built to be in there and catch and hold on stay on block they're built to get a lead and turn Micah and D-Law and those guys loose on them. Let them loose, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:48 And if they can't do that, then it's going to be a problem because if you go back and look at the Cowboys, teams that have beat them over the last four to five years, look at how they run the football on them. Go back and look at the Ravens when Lamar went in there and they ran for damn near 300 yards. Cleveland ran for 300 yards. Arizona ran for 300 last week. Go back and look at the Ravens when Lamar went in there and they ran for damn near 300 yards. Cleveland ran for 300 yards. Arizona ran for 300 last week. Go back and look at the games in which
Starting point is 01:12:09 they've been looking at in the playoff game. The Packers. Look at the year before. The 49ers. When they lose, teams normally run the football on them because they can't get the lead and just pin their ears back because you have to throw, throw, throw to catch up. Right. And so I'm sure that's what John Harbaugh is telling his club. Guys, let's just make sure we don't fall behind. Let's just make sure. Let's just put our weight on them.
Starting point is 01:12:43 We're the more physical of the team. We can run the ball better. Let's just impose our will on them. We're the more physical of the team. We can run the ball better. Let's just impose our will and let's see what happens. So I like the Ravens and I like the Texans. Nate Harper said, Uncle Nocho, thank you for your prayers. When my fiance Ashley was in the hospital, she's finally coming. She's finally out and recovering. Today is our 10th anniversary of love being together. Can you
Starting point is 01:13:06 give us another shout out? Love you guys. Hey, Nate, that's unbelievable. Thank you. Ashley, congratulations. I'm glad you're out of the hospital. Hopefully you're wishing you a very, very speedy recovery. That's a great story, Nate. Y'all got 10 years down, another 25, 30, 40 more to go.
Starting point is 01:13:21 So keep us updated. Ashley, like I said, Nightcap, Unkanocho, we're very, very excited that you're out of the hospital, feeling better, fast recovery, and look forward to hearing
Starting point is 01:13:32 from you guys soon down the road. Jason said, what's up, Unkanocho? I was wondering if y'all could give me a birthday shout out. Love the show. Never stop doing
Starting point is 01:13:41 what y'all doing. Hey, Jason, thank you guys because it's people like you Jason you guys have supported us I remember the first show I think we might have had a thousand people in the chat for real?
Starting point is 01:13:53 yeah we had a thousand people on show a thousand and each week got better and better got better and better and then we kind of branched off. You made me start telling stories. You're like, oh, what about this?
Starting point is 01:14:12 And I started telling stories. Yeah. And so we coined the phrase, you come for the sports, but you're going to stay for the stories. So, but, man, Jason, thank you. Thanks to each and every one of our subs, everybody that watches, that have told people about us. Man, so many people like, man, I love you and Ocho.
Starting point is 01:14:32 And that means a lot when you hear people and you're like, you missing us? I mean, it'd be the Asian community. Yeah, yeah. There is no age. There is no race, nationality, whatever the case may be. It's women. It's men. It's Asian community. It's the Hispanic community.
Starting point is 01:14:51 It's obviously our community, Ocho. It just means a lot to see like, man, we're actually doing something that people like. Well, people that we care about like. There's some haters out there. We don't care about them anyway.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Aaron Owen said, what's up, Uncle Nocho? During the draft process, besides being with the Broncos, what team showed you guys the most interest? Seattle? You was going to Seattle? They showed the most interest.
Starting point is 01:15:24 Right. But hell, after you got past, because I, you know, after you got past like the third round, hell,
Starting point is 01:15:34 you didn't care where you went. I don't went to Indy. I don't went to Cincinnati. I don't went anywhere. You just want to get drafted now. And then round three go by because back then the draft started on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:15:44 And it was 12 rounds. And so after you get to a certain point, Ocho, you just want to get drafted. You didn't care. You just want an opportunity to show that you can play. And that was it. And I was very fortunate to go to a team in the Broncos that believed in me. And I wanted to repay them for their belief in me. I had a quarterback that believed in me. and I wanted to repay them for their belief in me.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Had a quarterback that believed in me. We became very good friends. He worked with me, had great patience with me, and I definitely don't think I would have had the career that I had had I gone somewhere else because I don't know if a quarterback would have had the patience with me. I don't know if, you know, when Dan left, Dan started giving me opportunities, but Wade Phillips comes in and he hired Jim Fossil,
Starting point is 01:16:27 and he kind of built the offense around me and my skill set. So a lot of things have to go well for you to be successful, and I was very, very fortunate to have people that believed in me and helped me in my success, but that was great.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Oh, I got to say this again, don't you? Colorado Buffaloes win. Colorado Buffalo win 38-31 in dramatic fashion. Shador Sanders throws a Hail Mary that is caught with no time on the clock. They add the PAT. They go into overtime. They get the Bailer, wins the toss.
Starting point is 01:17:11 They defer. CU goes down the field. They score, and Travis Hunter forces a turnover. The ball is fumbled out of the end zone, and the CU Buffaloes win, and they're now 3 and one, three and one, right? Three and one. They play UFC, UCF, University of Central Florida with a chance to go to four and one. So I'm very excited for the Buffaloes, Coach Prime, Shador, Trav,
Starting point is 01:17:42 all the guys you played. Unbelievable. Shador stood in there, took eight sacks, a lot of hits, a lot of pressures, but he was unflinching, and he was able to do what he's supposed to do, which is going to go a long way. I think that's really, really impressed the scouts because everybody knows that when you've got a clean pocket, hell, everybody can pick you apart. But when things don't go well when you when you've been sacked eight times when you've been hit another seven eight times when you've been pressured
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Starting point is 01:20:09 Thank you. We're back tomorrow night and Monday night with a full slate of NFL games tomorrow and then the Monday night matchup on Monday. I'm up. He's Ocho. We're out for tonight. The volume.
Starting point is 01:20:24 The Made for This Mountain podcast The volume. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there,
Starting point is 01:21:15 and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You'rera on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.

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