Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Warriors are favored over the Rockets, Iso Joe playing LeBron James in the playoffs, & check out 1,000 dollar haircut!

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson & Joe Johnson react to Pat Bev, Brandon Jennings, Lou will in there 1 on 1 battle, Iso Joe talks about playing LeBron in the playoffs, & Ba...ylor Men’s Basketball team has all entered the transfer portal & much more!04:50 - Warriors and Rockets playoffs10:10 - Pat Bev, Brandon Jennings, Lou Will 1 on 130:25 - LeBron James in playoffs35:36 - Baylor MBB forced to build new team42:00 - $1,000 haircut49:15 - Shell-Ann Fraser Price beats parents in race53:19 - Q&Ayyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:43 The Warriors are minus 190. The Rockets are plus 155. Are the Warriors a lot to beat the Rockets, Joe? I'm not sure if they're a lot. Now, we're going off experience. Then, obviously, you know, they got Houston on that. Houston got youth on their side. And they got to use the advantage, man.
Starting point is 00:05:02 They got to make them guys work. But, you know, when you got guys like Jimmy Bullen, Draymond Green, and obviously, you know, Steph Curry, it's going to be tough to beat them, man. They got them role players around them playing great basketball. So, that's going to be
Starting point is 00:05:18 an interesting series. It's a lot of series I'm looking forward to, and their Rockets and Golden State is going to be one for the ages. But the thing that concerns me about the Rockets, who's your go-to guy? Right. They haven't been in this. The Warriors
Starting point is 00:05:34 have been in these situations. Steph knows what it's like to play championship basketball, to get ready to win a title. Draymond has been there. He knows what it's like. Jimmy Butler hadn't won, but he's taking team to the NBA Finals. He knows what it's like. Jimmy Butler hadn't won, but he's taking team to the NBA finals. He knows what it's like. And they're role players.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Now, I don't know what's going on with Kamingo didn't really play. Moody got the assignment. So it's going to be very, very interesting because you play with a team that understands what these moments are about and what they're like versus a team that's extremely athletic. It's going to'm Smith, and you got Dylan Brooks, and you got Jalen Green. You got Van Fleet.
Starting point is 00:06:10 You got Al Sangoon. He's for real. Graybond's going to have his hands full with him now. Yeah. Them Rockets, they playing hard, man. You know, he going to have them ready now. They ain't going to be scared of nothing.
Starting point is 00:06:25 No. No. I think the fact that they are young, Joe, is why you can't have them as a lot. They play on both ends of the court. And I think the pressure for them, especially when you're that young, you're just out there playing basketball.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yeah. You're just out there playing basketball. You're just out there having fun and doing what you need to do. And I think they have the Warriors to win, obviously, not only because of Steph, but because of the experience. They've already been there before. But it's going to be a good series, a very, very good series.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I think it's going to 7-2 now. But, Joe, they got to hold serve at home. Yeah. Talking about the Rockets. The Rockets got a whole server yeah they do they do
Starting point is 00:07:06 because that's gonna be the confidence booster if you can win the first two games at home yes and then have to travel to you know
Starting point is 00:07:14 go to state to uh you know to try to get a win but man I just like the young Rockets team
Starting point is 00:07:20 they play hard they're fearless and you know they know what it's like to play the Warriors and because they've played them pretty well this year yep yeah hey Rockets team. They play hard. They're fearless. And, you know, they know what it's like to play the Warriors. And because they've played them pretty well this year. Yep.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Hey, Joe, if they come out of the gate in general and win the first two games at home, well, it can get spooky. It can get spooky. The one thing about the Warriors, the Warriors won't panic, though, because they've been here. I remember a couple years ago they went down to Sacramento
Starting point is 00:07:47 and they had to go to Sacramento and win game seven, and Steph Curry had one of the great all-time performances. He dropped 50 on them in game seven. Yeah. So the Warriors would not look. You lose the first two games on the road. All they did was hold serve at home. The series doesn't start until the road team wins a game.
Starting point is 00:08:07 So all Houston would have done is protect their home. They did not let the Warriors come in and invade their territory. So we kept them at bay. Now can we make an advancement into their territory by stealing a game at home? Now
Starting point is 00:08:21 Rockets are saying all we got to do is just hold serve at home. If we wentets are saying, all we got to do is just hold serve at home. If we win all four at home, we advance. The Warriors are saying, we got to find a way to get one. All we got to do
Starting point is 00:08:34 is get one at home. Get one on the road. And we lack our chances. And I think that first game for the Warriors will be probably one of the best games for them to get because
Starting point is 00:08:45 their young team in Houston, having to understand you're the two seed, you're the one being hunted. You got to understand and know how to protect that. You can't wait to see what the intensity is going to be like before you have to rev it up. Go to state, they're going to already know.
Starting point is 00:09:02 The Rockets, they cannot lose on their home floor they got to protect they got to protect the house and I think it's going to be a hell of a series yeah going to state said we already played a playoff game we beat Memphis that was it even though it doesn't go towards anything but that was a playoff type atmosphere because hey the one thing we didn't want to do was fall and now we're out so hey let's just go ahead and make a life of ourselves. And plus, I think they like their chances better against the Rockets than they do the Thunder.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Absolutely. Absolutely. Hey, listen, listen. I think they definitely will take the Rockets because, you know, they know and understand the moment, and they know that the Rockets will be a little inexperienced, even though they're going to play hard, and they're definitely going to make it competitive. But, you know, the Rockets definitely got, I mean, the Warriors definitely got the team
Starting point is 00:09:51 who I think they were seeking out to get in the playoffs. Yeah. Joe, let me know what you think about this. Brandon Jennings, Jeff Teague, Lou Will, and Pat Bell have all gone at it over who can win a one-on-one. Joe, what's your take on this, bro? You know, Pat Bell went to the University of Arkansas. He a Razorback.
Starting point is 00:10:13 That's my guy. Jeff Teague. Hey, Jeff Teague, my guy. I know Brandon Jennings. But if you're playing against Pat Bell, y'all not going to finish the game, bro. If you think you're going to outscore that man, hey, man, you're going to have another thing coming. That's why he calling for all the smoke.
Starting point is 00:10:32 He calling everybody out. It's going to be tough. But if I had to take somebody, I'd probably take Teague. I think Teague, he's probably a little younger than all of them, and he's still got a little offense. You know what I mean? He's playing probably pretty regularly. I know Pat just came from overseas.
Starting point is 00:10:50 But Pat is a disruptor. You know, he's going to jump the game up. You better hope you don't hurt yourself while you're playing him. Like, this ain't going to be no walk in the park. Pat said they ain't got no conditioning. Pat said, y'all don't work out like that. He said, I'm still in the gym. I'm still getting up shots. I'm still running.
Starting point is 00:11:09 So he going to be playing that pressed up dog defense on him. And it's going to wait him down after a while. It's going to take them legs. That's what he's banking on. He's going to tell you he's going to talk you out to the game. Oh, yeah. Hey, you want to throw your name in the hat joe you want some
Starting point is 00:11:25 of that one-on-one action oh whoever wants to smoke i got it over in form you hear me yeah i wait hey call me out you want to i heard i heard brandon jennings say something but i can't even i don't get no strife for playing brandon jennings i don't get no strife for beating him shit i'm 68240 cut up you hear me man one night joe you going back to the big three this year yeah i'm going back to the big three man uh 2.40. Cut up. Yeah, man. Man, I want that. Joe, you going back to the big three this year? Yeah, I'm going back to the big three, man. I just got off a call with them guys yesterday teaming up with the Detroit Amps coached by George Iceman-Girvin.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Okay. Oh, that's live. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm looking forward to it. Bro, I've been playing in this. I've been playing this 2019 since I've been done with the NBA. And it still gives me a chance
Starting point is 00:12:14 to, you know, stay in shape, get to compete at a high level, get to play on a huge platform like the Big 3, I think, Ice Cube, and there's running mates, Jeff and them. They've done a great job with the Big 3, man man it's been fun to be a part of actually so yeah you know as we get up in age man we still got you know we still got a little something left in us man we still love competing that that's that's the one thing that never dies nah the competition it never
Starting point is 00:12:39 goes anywhere and it's hard it's hard to fulfill it doing something it's hard to fulfill it. It's hard to fulfill it, but for three-on-three half court, I can do at least about 50. I can do that. Hey, Joe, for big three, right? What's up? Everybody is former NBA players, obviously, as starters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Now, anybody on the bench coming off the bench, are they just casual people that can play the game of basketball? No. He let a few guys in a few seasons ago. But mainly the NBA guys and guys who played overseas, played professional overseas. Okay. But you know what? Well, being in this different space, man, you know, a lot of these YouTubers, it's a lot of them who got game, bro. And he's actually, you know, let a few of them play.
Starting point is 00:13:27 So it's been fun. It's been fun to see them. It's been fun to see them get a chance to, you know, go out there and compete and have fun and, you know, help grow the game. I like that. What you think? Should I get out there or not? No. Who?
Starting point is 00:13:41 Ojo? Yeah. Ojo, you got some game? No. Boy, I dropped 56 and a half school with my senior year. Every game. Every game? Every game.
Starting point is 00:13:52 56. Class 6A. Miami Beach senior high. Them men be on their line for no reason. Man, what's wrong with you, man? Ocho. Hey, listen. Hey, the footage is right there
Starting point is 00:14:05 56 every game 56 every game I can see you hold on 56 hey no listen you laughing I'm telling you what I did
Starting point is 00:14:12 now I'm not going to lie to you hey 56 12 and 9 almost every almost every game I didn't hit it one last game because I had a flu
Starting point is 00:14:22 I had like my own little flu game you didn't play you didn't play you didn't play in college? They should have brought you to play football and basketball. No, I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I had to focus on one thing because, you know, if you're going to make it to the highest level and be a one percenter, you got to choose one thing. So I chose football. And actually, football wasn't even my thing. I wanted to play soccer. I just didn't have the resources, Joe. I didn't have the resources to play soccer where I come from. And soccer is still my first love. It still is.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And, you know, I got stuck with football. Well, you can play Joe one-on-one. Who? Me? Joe Tula, man. I boxed Joe ass out, man. Stop playing with me, man. Don't you love him, man.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Listen. Hey, set it up. I ain't going to listen hey one thing about hey I'll set it up set it up I ain't gonna do a whole lot of talking just set it up I'll set it up I'll for it I'll for it
Starting point is 00:15:12 Chad y'all wanna see that Joe take a hold of Joe Joe Joe don't do it to yourself don't do it to yourself for the end Chad Chad y'all wanna see that
Starting point is 00:15:20 yeah we wanna see it yeah I'm sure you ain't got a chance playing me, bro. I'm going to tell you something. Now, see, what Joe is doing, he's 6'8", 240,
Starting point is 00:15:30 not realizing I'm 6'4", 210 right now, right? I want you to do me a favor, right? Ask Russell Westbrook, ask James Harden, ask D. Wade, ask Carmelo Anthony what happened to them
Starting point is 00:15:39 all them time. They thought it was a joke and they was going to beat me based on size and experience and being professional basketball players. You played them all they want. you played them all you played oh yeah they got got their ass whoop got whooped and i called out names so they can't there's nothing they can say i'm calling out names i'm i got receipts it's right here on my phone but out of respect i
Starting point is 00:15:58 ain't post nothing yeah okay i'm like that i don know, Joe. You say he got them pills on his wall. Man, listen. I ain't believe nothing Ocho say. I got to see it. Set it up. Set it up. When he come back, when y'all come here to Atlanta, just go set it up. We go set it up.
Starting point is 00:16:15 We got to do a whole lot of it. Listen, we don't even have to wait. I go to Gainesville this weekend. I watch my daughter run Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. I can leave Gainesville Sunday and come to Atlanta Monday and spend a week out there. Is that okay? Hey, Ocho. Ocho, don't threaten me with a good time, baby.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Hey, I like a good time. Don't threaten me with a good time. Hey, I'm going to be all right. Don't threaten me with no good time. Yeah. Hey, matter of fact Joe You can take I've been asking her To take me to Magic City
Starting point is 00:16:49 To taste these wings I keep hearing about the wings At Magic City I We go to Candyland too We go to 2 Chainz spot Candyland That's 2 Chainz spot
Starting point is 00:16:59 Restaurant What you trying to do man You trying to hit the city up Man listen You know I come I can count on two hands How many times I've been in Atlanta Restaurant? What you trying to do, man? You trying to hit the city up? Man, listen, you know, I can count on two hands how many times I've been to Atlanta. And right now... It all depends on what you're trying to do. Sick.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I'm trying to eat. I'm trying to eat. Oh, hey. The funny thing, Joe, the few times I come to Atlanta, I don't do nothing. There's a Cuban restaurant on Beaufort Highway that I enjoy. You close to me. Who on Beaufort Highway that I enjoy you close to me Beaufort Highway
Starting point is 00:17:27 yeah it's a Cuban spot right there I go to Dan Tanner's to get my cigar I sit on the patio Dan Tanner's not on Beaufort Highway Dan Tanner's on Peachtree I just said my Cuban spot I like to go to and get my sweet plans my cafe con leche
Starting point is 00:17:43 and my churrasco steak and rice and sweet plans is on Buford Highway. The other spot I go to is Dan Tanner's to get my cigars. I go to the gym, and that's pretty much all I do. Well, Buford Highway used to have Shooter's Alley. I think that closed in Follies.
Starting point is 00:17:59 It was on Buford Highway. Oh, you was a big strip club guy? I just said, I know. I ain't trying to put the bidders out there. I'm saying that's what you do. Hey, nah. I have gone in my younger years. I done got older now. I ain't got no money
Starting point is 00:18:15 to, you know, to just be throwing across the road. Yeah, you know. Back in the day, you had to go, you know. Hold on, I'm just catching on. So Candyland wasn't a soul food restaurant? No.
Starting point is 00:18:31 They got some soul soups up in there. Yeah. That's a two-chain spot. Okay, okay, that's okay. I didn't even know. I didn't know about that. But, you know, I always like, when I go, because I know MASH 25, 30 years, I always pay tonight, Jim. And now that I know Chainz got a spot, a Escobar.
Starting point is 00:18:58 You ever been to a 2 Chainz spot on Peter Street, Escobar? No, I ain't been there. I ain't been there. I'm about to go check it out, though. Yeah, the food like that. I've been to 2 Chainz spot on Peter Street, Escobar? Nah, I ain't been there. I ain't been there. I'm about to go check it out, though. Yeah, the food like that. I've been to 2 Chainz
Starting point is 00:19:08 quite a bit. I ain't been there, I ain't been there, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it. They got some good food.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Hey, I tell you what, when I come back down there, Joe, we gonna hit it up. I ain't betting. Bet, bet that.
Starting point is 00:19:21 You don't live down there. Joe lives in Atlanta. I'm from Atlanta. But I've been asking you To take me to Magic City To try to win I tried to take you You talking about you asleep I was asleep
Starting point is 00:19:31 Listen I love Duke Ryle I love Duke Ryle Hey Hey Hey Hey Ojo
Starting point is 00:19:44 Ojo You might as well make it a thing, man. Come down here and grab a little something. He ain't going. He's a city, man. Okay, I'm ready. I'm ready. Listen, you got to make sure. Make sure I take a nap during the day.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Because if 9 o'clock hits... You got to make sure you take a nap. You the one that know we got planned. The hell you talking about make sure I take a nap? Hey, Joe, it's hard for me, Joe. It's hard. I've never been a person that goes out you know even during my younger days 9, 9.30 I'm up 5, 5 in the
Starting point is 00:20:13 morning I'm up no alarm clock no nothing so now it's even worse that I'm a little older I gotta take a nap during the day before I even do nightcap before I even do nightcap man like it's bad my body is programmed to be asleep by 9, 930. What time do you normally up?
Starting point is 00:20:33 5 a.m. No alarm clock. Yeah. No alarm clock at all. I didn't go for the music. Where? In the wings. No, no, no, no. I'm not for the music. Where? In the wings. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I'm not, but the food, hey, I'm telling you, the food and magic be like that. Chain say he got some, I went to another one, Escobar's where I had, where I had lamb chops. What is where, Jordan?
Starting point is 00:20:58 Turkey ribs. Oh, he got some turkey ribs? Hey. Hey, it's a little different. It's different. It's a little different around here. I know the food be fine, though. Hey, it's a little different. It's different. It's a little different around here. I know the food be fine, though.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Them lemon pepper. Where I got them lemon peppers from Magic? Yeah. Hey, you know what I just thought about?
Starting point is 00:21:16 Man, Joe live in you. Why Joe live in Atlanta? That's almost as bad. Hold on. Hold on. I want to say number. Joe, you're not married, are you? I ain't married,
Starting point is 00:21:24 but I'm happy, Ocho. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. did i did yeah i'll be listening yeah i was just gonna ask you i just i was gonna ask you how you're able to maneuver in a city like that with with with with the aesthetics and the visuals you know it's like living in houston oh joe i got great self-control and discipline uh yeah me too hey i run a high yoga studio, Ojo, so, you know. Okay. Oh, that's even worse. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah. The temptation right there in front of you. Hey, man, listen. I done been in that scene and I done done all that, Ojo. Yeah, you done done all that. I done done all that.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Joe, how old are you? Forty-what? I'll be 44 in June. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary.
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Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah, see, I'll be 57 in June, Joe. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'll be 57. Yeah. June what? June what?
Starting point is 00:25:45 26. Are you a castle? Yeah. Yeah. I'm sounds like that. June what? June what? 26. Are you a castle? Yeah. I'm the 29th, man. I knew, I knew something about you. What? I said what?
Starting point is 00:25:52 I knew something about you. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, I knew something. What are you on, Chuck? Huh? What are you? What's your birthday? What am I?
Starting point is 00:26:03 My birthday, January 9th, 1968. Capricorn. Man, that's my son's birthday. For real? My son, man. He's 18 years old. His birthday is January 9th.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Hey, that's my dog. Boy, you a wild boy, though. You a wild boy. I know you a wild boy. My son is 18. I know you. Hey, hey. Nah, I ain't wild no more.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I ain't no... Listen, listen. I just got saved not long ago because the last thing was wearing off. So I, I'm good now. I got baptized. Good, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I'm good. I'm, listen, I've, I've come a long way because I tell people all the time, the best teacher in life is experience.
Starting point is 00:26:41 And I done been through it all, Joe. I done been through it all. I done sat down. I done, you know, I done. I done been through it all. I done sat down. I done, you know, I done weighed the white flag. You come a long way, but you got a long way to go. You ain't finished. That too. That too.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yeah. Hey, Joe, I'm happy just like you. Right, right. I'm happy. Yeah. What you going to do, baby? What that? You, man, man, man.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Oh, so we happy over there, man. Where you going? Yeah, yeah. Huh? What you doing? You, man, man, man. Also, we happy over there, man. Where you going? Yeah, yeah. Huh? What you, what that? Hey, Joe. I still want to know who Michelle is. I know.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Hey, hey, listen. Listen. We all, we all, everybody trying to figure it out. But I ain't going to get you bitten like that. I ain't going to get you bitten like that, man. But we want you happy, though, huh? You know, for a nominal fee, we'll have an unveiling on Nightcap. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:27:31 How much? I don't know, Chad. What y'all can conjure up. But here's the thing. Even if she were to reveal herself, y'all going to say that ain't her. So where we go? Where we do it? Why would we do that?
Starting point is 00:27:45 Why would we think you love her y'all would you guys would believe it but the chat's not gonna believe it I mean if her name is Michelle and she shows ID
Starting point is 00:27:53 and proof there's really no way anybody can go against that it's all about having receipts but they gonna say that ain't that Michelle he just found somebody
Starting point is 00:28:02 well actually we can play the video and ask her to recreate the sound and we'll be able to tell if that's her or not I think you should do that do that reveal what's he weight by 220 he say nah
Starting point is 00:28:16 nah nah nah nah nah I mean I gotta start doing I'll start doing me 300 push up and be able to have them 220s again. We about the same size right now. How much you weigh right now? Me and you? How much I weigh right now?
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah. 255? Okay. Okay. Okay. Man, no way you weigh. You ain't closer than that. Nah, hey, Joe. There ain't no way you ain't close to that man. Nah, hey, Joe.
Starting point is 00:28:49 There ain't no way you close to no two big guys. All muscle, too. All muscle, too. You do realize we the same size, huh? Man, please. This ain't... Man, I would stand up, but I ain't gonna do it to you. No. Because, you know, I'm really in the gym really hard, right?
Starting point is 00:29:04 I'm really in the gym really hard, right? I'm really in the gym really hard because when we do a live show. When we hit this road, when we hit this, when we hit the show, we gonna, we gonna know,
Starting point is 00:29:10 we gonna see. Oh no, you know, you know, when we, when we do Baltimore, I'm coming out with no shirt. Cause we coming,
Starting point is 00:29:15 we're coming out with no shirt. And then listen, Ash, I know everybody can hear, right? Yeah. When Unc and I come out for the Baltimore show,
Starting point is 00:29:21 we have to play the whistle from Omar on the wire. That's how we come out. Hey, yeah. No shirt. No, yes, just, just. Hold on. How you happy?
Starting point is 00:29:36 How you trying to come out there with no shirt on? Omar coming. I'm talking to you Ocho Oh me? What happened? What you mean? Why you trying to come out there With no shirt?
Starting point is 00:29:53 My baby say Can I come out with no shirt? She say I can come out With no shirt Hey I mean you know We good We good You say hey
Starting point is 00:30:00 I'm just trying Listen I'm trying to show off The work that I've done The discipline Okay the structure. You told me I couldn't get as big as you. I'm almost there, and June is two months away. Ocho.
Starting point is 00:30:15 What? Do you see point to point? Look at your clavicle looking by. Look at your shoulder. You look at the caps on your shoulder. Look at the caps on mine. You do understand my shoulders look like this because I'm aerodynamic. No, you can be aerodynamic all you want to.
Starting point is 00:30:33 George Froh with his man, man. Listen, we have two different frames, two totally different frames. Yes, yes. Yeah, but I'm just saying. But what I can do with the frame I do have, I can put on as much weight and as much muscle as possible. Ocho, you only going to be so big. A cheetah, I don't care how much meat a cheetah eat,
Starting point is 00:30:56 he's never going to weigh as much as a lion or tiger. That's not his makeup. Right. That's not your makeup. Okay, but I'm going to get big. I'm going to get big as possible. Just like I couldn't be your weight. If I'm your weight, I'm going to get big. I'm going to get big as possible. I couldn't be your weight. If I'm your weight, I'm three months past dead.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah, he's going to look sick. The first thing he's going to say, oh, he on that zippy, or he got that thigh job. They ain't going to be able to do it. Hey, Ocho, you say you wasn't used to having muscles if you don't flex, huh? Yeah, man. You going gonna come out with your shirt off
Starting point is 00:31:28 And bump me one minute Listen I'm telling you Ocho you 46 Talk about taking off your shirt What's wrong with taking off my shirt Man sit your old ass down Oh I look 23
Starting point is 00:31:42 I look young though you talking about I know I look I look young though I look young I feel I feel young too What I look like I'm fidgeting I'm fidgeting
Starting point is 00:31:50 I'm fidgeting I'm fidgeting I'm fidgeting I'm fidgeting I'm fidgeting I'm fidgeting I'm fidgeting I'm fidgeting
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Starting point is 00:31:52 I'm fidgeting I'm fidgeting I'm fidgeting I'm fidgeting I'm fidgeting I'm fidgeting You nervous. Don't be nervous. You weren't nervous when you was on camera. When? With Michelle. Oh, there you go. Joe, you faced LeBron in the playoffs many times. Is there a difference between regular season LeBron and playoff LeBron? Yeah. Yeah, it is. There's definitely a difference. He definitely revs it up a notch, and you can always count in a series,
Starting point is 00:32:27 he's going to explode. He's going to have one of them games. You know, I remember playing in Brooklyn, and we played them. You dropped that 49 on y'all. They won the first two games in Miami. We won game three in Brooklyn. In game four, he really had 50. He missed the free throw.
Starting point is 00:32:43 He missed the free throw and hit 50. Was that the game that Paul Pierce said he wanted it? I don't remember. I know. Now, don't get me wrong. Paul take the challenge. Now, he's a competitor. He was an ultimate competitor.
Starting point is 00:32:55 And I'm sure he probably started off on me. He probably did. But it was, hey, listen. It was just like we played great defense and he'd make a tough shot. It was like, damn. Like, you just realized how special he was, man. Like, he had that one game that just kind of took us out of whack. So, you look at them now.
Starting point is 00:33:17 They got three guys that can handle the ball, can facilitate for everybody else, but they can also go get their shot. We know Luka. Luka has the second-highest scoring playoff. He averages 32 points a game. He increases. And that's what the great... If you look at all the great players,
Starting point is 00:33:33 look at their regular season and look at their postseason averages. It increases. Look at Jordan. Look at Kobe. Look at LeBron. Look at KD. Look at Steph.
Starting point is 00:33:42 That's where you make your money. Yeah. So LeBron understands he has a great situation. And like, there's never been a series on his own team that LeBron was the second best player. Right. Think about that.
Starting point is 00:33:57 The guy that has 42,000 points, more playoff points than anybody in the history of the game. And on most nights, he's going to be the second best player. So who do you send to him? It don't matter who you send to him. He's going to find a way to manipulate the game to where he's very effective, whether it be 13, 14 assists, 17, 18 rebounds,
Starting point is 00:34:25 anywhere from 20 to 25 points. He's going to dominate the game in every facet. So, everybody got Luka as the best player on the Lakers right now? He is, Joe. Yeah. He's the best. I'm going to tell you something. I think Bron is going to really take the initiative. His game to another level? Yeah, man. I think he's still going to tell you something. I think Bron is going to really take, like, I think he's going to take the initiative.
Starting point is 00:34:46 His game to another level? Yeah, man. I think he's still going to be great. I think Luke is going to be, he's definitely, you know, going to be great as well. But Bron is going to cause a lot of havoc, man. I think people are kind of just overlooking him because him and Luke are teammates.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Right. But I see him putting up some great performances this postseason. Right. But you know what I'm thinking? I think with Luka done, I'm not going to be shocked now that LeBron plays 25 seasons. Because guess what? He got
Starting point is 00:35:17 somebody to handle the ball. He got somebody that can handle the scoring. If he's off, he and AR is going to be... I can see LeBron maybe one more year had Luka not come, but I can see LeBron playing two or three more years, Joe.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Oh, definitely, definitely. Because he don't have, you know, a huge load on him offensively to where he has to score 30 a night. See, now he can sit back and average 22,
Starting point is 00:35:40 24 points a night and, you know, still be super effective, you know, helping A.R. and helping Luka just being that decoy just by being out there on the floor. 24 points a night and, you know, still be super effective, you know, helping AR and helping Luka just being that decoy just by being out there
Starting point is 00:35:48 on the floor. Yeah. And the funny thing about it, if Luka does have off nights where it won't happen often, LeBron can actually pick up the slack. And they still need to be.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I'm going to keep saying that. That's a wrap. They're going to have to be strapped. The Ocho,'s a wrap. They're going to have to be strapped. The old show. This postseason, they're going to have to be strapped. They got what they got. And they're going to have to play like-sized guys where they're switching a lot and just causing havoc.
Starting point is 00:36:13 That's how they're going to have to roll. That's it. But they got guys that can make tough shots. AR has played unbelievable, averaging 25-4, played great. We know what Luka, we know what LeBron are. The question is, what can we count on consistently? Can we count on Dory or Finney Smith to give us somewhere 12-14? Gabe Vinson, can he hit two or three big-time threes?
Starting point is 00:36:37 Vando, can he play great defense and give us six to eight points? Jackson Hayes, bro, hey, we need you to keep watch the glass. Because we're not going to run plays for you. You're going to need to be a lob threat, and we need you to get it out the rim. Yeah. I think those guys definitely
Starting point is 00:36:56 understand their roles, and they understand the timing of everything at this point and the opportunity that's ahead of them. At worst case, they won't have to see OKC into the Western Conference finals. So I think they're in pretty good shape.
Starting point is 00:37:11 They control their own destiny. They can come out and, you know, put up what they're supposed to. Yeah, do what they're supposed to. They'll be all right, especially take care of home. Baylor has to replace their entire basketball team.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Every single person that was on the roster from last season left the school. Nine of the 14 are in the portal. Joe, how we fix this? We see the kid from Tennessee. I'm a lever. You should have known by the name. I'm a lever. He did.
Starting point is 00:37:45 But, Joe, I mean, you see, he's going to get 2.4. Now he wanted four. I don't believe he's going to get that. It seems like UCLA, nobody's going to give him that. Because they're like, where are you going to go? So now, Ocho, remember I told you. I sure hope he got a $4 million offer lined up. Because if he, whoever advised him his dad his agent his
Starting point is 00:38:07 cousin whoever they did him a disservice yeah they did and obviously for for a minute i thought normally especially somebody like that if you're as good as you think you are but you snatched up the next day it's not a problem i got it got to a point where i thought the college were in cahoots i thought they were in cahoots trying to prove a point and not give him a deal or not sign him. You know, because most of the time, all the money is already taken care of. All the money is accounted for.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Yeah. At this point. But obviously, him going down to the UCLA, I'm sure they gave him something. I know it's nowhere close to four. No. You ain't got nowhere else to go. Why would I give you that?
Starting point is 00:38:49 He should have stayed at Tennessee, huh? Exactly. We're living in different times, man. We're living in different times. I don't even know how do you fix the NIL because what it seems is there's just no loyalty in it. Guys are just going wherever the bag at.
Starting point is 00:39:06 If you tell me you got a bag on them, no. Joe, this is what the coaches do. Coaches do it all the time. They do it all the time. If they get a bet off somewhere, they out. I know, man, but these are kids, and it's hard to, you know, at 18, 19 years old, man, making these type of decisions, bro. Like, you know, this is tough because once you get there
Starting point is 00:39:25 if you go in there for the money and they don't turn out how you plan then you know you can only blame yourself uh right but i couldn't i couldn't imagine man could y'all imagine you know the the money being like it is in college when y'all was coming out when y'all was coming out of high school oh can you imagine going to college and they type enticing you with this type of money. What would it be like? Man, I don't know. I ain't going to lie to you. I'm going to take less money to go to a place that's going to affect.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Why would I go to a team to run the wishbone if I'm a receiver? I'm going to go somewhere they're going to showcase me. Because at the end of the day, yes, I want to get money. But don't you know, I want to go to the NFL. Hell, college was not my ultimate destination. The NFL is. So if I go to a place that don't highlight or showcase what I can
Starting point is 00:40:11 do... I don't even think some of these kids are thinking about the NFL right now at this point because you know in football, you got to go to school at least for three years anyway, right? Yes. They're not even thinking about the NFL. They're just thinking about how can I make the most money
Starting point is 00:40:27 right now as a freshman, sophomore, or junior, whatever the case may be. It works out for some, but it's going to hurt a lot of them guys, man. A lot of times, though, Joe, when we grew up, it didn't take a whole lot of money. It didn't take no means for us. Hell, you could have gave us $10,000.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Somebody made $10,000 a year. Can, you could have gave us $10,000. That'd be... That's a lot. Do you imagine somebody just hand me $10,000 and say, we're going to give you $1,000 or $2,000 a month. Stop playing. I guarantee you we'd get out of the house with running water. I got
Starting point is 00:41:02 that pail grain every month for $2,900. Boy, I thought I was balling. Hey, O'To, I got that Pell Grant every month for $2,900. Boy, I thought I was balling. Hey, balling. Yeah, I should get a Pell Grant. I get a Pell Grant every month for $2,900. I should send my mom about $1,400. Keep the rest. I'll be balling for a couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Next thing you know, you look up, you see me in the cafe again. I'll be back again. I'll be back again. You know, you could tell when everybody got their work We got work study We didn't get pale gray We got work study check Man, everybody
Starting point is 00:41:32 They going to get in the wing They eating at Red Lobster They going to Ryan's to get that buffet Yeah Gym two weeks Everybody got them trays up in that line Hey, that was me. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Boy, look, I was eating out, buying shoes, clothes. It get low, you'll see me in the cab. Don't worry about it. What's up, guys? Hey, yeah. Hey, you know, my junior year, my brother go to the league. So, you know, hey. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Hey, y'all better have something good, Cap, if y'all want to see me. If y'all ain't got some bull jive up in there, ah, nah, I'm going to McDonald's. I'm going, hey, I eat out. Because back then, Burger King, we had a Burger King like it was walking distance on campus. Right. Yeah. 99 cent. Remember those waffles?
Starting point is 00:42:18 99 cent. Yeah. I used to go to Wendy's, get them 99 cent cheeseburger, double cheeseburger. Yeah. Yeah. I know somebody that finally go over there, give me a little slug. Let me get you a little slug. Don't act like that. Hey, the favorite place, we had a little off-campus spot called the Blue Note.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Wings, they cook wings, they cook gizzards, they cook livers with that Texas toast. Yeah. And there was a young lady who used to work there named Wante. I get on that payphone. I'm like, hey, I'm like, is Wante there?
Starting point is 00:42:49 This you, Shannon? Yeah. I said, Wante, hook it up for me now. Okay. Don't tell nobody. Hey,
Starting point is 00:42:57 I ain't tell nobody until like 15 years after I left Savannah State. Y'all wouldn't go for the bus if I hustled. Oh, you did it for sure. Hook me up.
Starting point is 00:43:04 No. Hey, when you were a college boy, hey, it, my hustle. Oh, you did it for sure. Hook me up. No. When you were a college boy, it was a struggle. You had to get in good with somebody who worked in one of the best old restaurants. Man. I had a plug at a McDonald's. Sam Hillary used to hook. Oh, she was assistant manager.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Hey. Big Mac, 20-piece nug nugget large fry super size fry I could eat back then I can't eat that now I could but I'll be sick be hard to get up off you now yeah man I can't eat like that that's why I don't know how
Starting point is 00:43:37 Ochoa ain't hollering about some McDonald's he be eating all the time check this video out this is the guy getting a haircut for $1,000. He got his haircut for $1,000. But look at the barber.
Starting point is 00:43:54 He went to the barber shop. But look at the barber though. Look at the barber. Man, please. Man, I wish I might but she messed up his head did she mess up his head I don't care what she did
Starting point is 00:44:12 I'm not paying no thousand dollars for no haircut I mean what else come with it I don't want it okay I know something else come with it hold on there's a female who cut his hair
Starting point is 00:44:23 yeah yeah yeah man he got a soup bowl nah I know something else come with it. Hold on, there's a female who cut his hair? Yeah. Yeah. Man, he got a soup bowl. Nah. I come for a service. I want that service. That's it.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Right. That's it. But we don't know what. If I'm coming to get a facial, I want the facial, and I'm out of there. I'm getting a haircut. Now, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Joe cuts my hair, so I'm good on the haircut. But massage therapist, ain't no happy anything, none of that.
Starting point is 00:44:49 No? Hell no. That's how you get in trouble, bro. Hey, listen, I don't even do massages. I didn't do massages when I was playing. To me, I think it was all a mind thing. I think it was all a mind thing. I didn't do massages
Starting point is 00:45:05 the only thing I did Joe you know that cold tub and contrast back and forth five minute hot three minutes cold five minutes hot three minutes cold
Starting point is 00:45:14 that's it don't don't don't touch me don't stretch me don't nothing no I had to get that work I had to
Starting point is 00:45:22 I don't know how you did that I thought I thought it was all mental I thought if it for me No, I had to get that work. I had to. I don't know how you did that. Hey, I thought it was all mental. For me, if it's not broke, don't fix it. Don't tell me when I'm in a stretch line, don't tell me to stretch. Don't tell me to stop talking. Don't tell me to stop playing around.
Starting point is 00:45:38 This is my same routine. That was time to be joking. That was time to clowning. I was already loose before. I had already did my little stretching before I got out there. So that was my time to joke. That's all that time was. The bagel.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Hey, who we getting on today? Who we making fun of today? That was that stretching time. I'm like, hey, everybody else did what they supposed to do, but nah, that was a bull job time for me. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Joe, what these barbers doing, man? This Joe was charging. Look, y'all not professional athletes and entertainers. Y'all trying to make $100,000, $200,000 a year cutting hair? Well, it depends on who they're cutting, huh? Yes. Now, this right here, this is just content. Now, there are barbers that, you know, barbers, barbers to the stars,
Starting point is 00:46:19 barbers to the athletes, barbers to the celebs, that do charge a heavy penny for the people that they cut because they got to travel with them. They taking them away from other clients that they could be doing because they force their barbers to go on the road. But I'm saying, okay, for like certain situations, yes,
Starting point is 00:46:37 I'll fly my barber out here, but he's been cutting my hair for 30 plus years. Right. But I'm talking about just casual, like, oh, my boy charging. Oh, hell. Oh, hell. Now, hell. Absolutely not. What'd you say, Joe?
Starting point is 00:46:54 I ain't heard of that one to where you just like, oh, man, my homeboy cut you up. He charged a thousand dollars. Nah. Ain't no such thing. Man, I started cutting my own hair yeah yeah hey
Starting point is 00:47:07 yeah this thing get you one like this now get you one like this but hold up now we gotta understand we're in different times boy I remember
Starting point is 00:47:14 I used to pay five ten dollars for a nice cut hey two dollars in college two fifty get a hey
Starting point is 00:47:20 who cut I wish I would've played somebody back in the 80s $20 to cut my hair $20 in college Mud doing a rough house Coop they were the team barbers
Starting point is 00:47:37 $250 and most of the time that was on the IOU one of my teammates in college And most of the time, that was on the IOU. One of my teammates in college, Teddy Gibson, he used to cut hair. So I don't really have no problem. That's my partner. He used to cut my hair all the time. My brother used to cut my hair.
Starting point is 00:47:59 He'd come home, he would cut my hair. He's like, hey, man, I'm going to cut you up. I said, when did you start cutting hair? You ain't even have no clippers. Yeah. But, hey, I was a guinea pig. I let him cut. Yeah, but I mean, we used to go to the, I mean, when I was coming up,
Starting point is 00:48:22 haircuts was like, started out like 75 cent a dollar, dollar 50, $2. I got to college $2.50. Yeah. $3. Then when I got to Denver, dollar fifty, two dollars. I got to college two fifty. Yeah. Three dollars. Then when I got to Denver, here comes like. Twelve dollars, fifteen dollars. And we long gone from them days. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Yeah. Never. We want fifty to it all for a part. Yes. Listen, listen, this is. Listen, these are the times that we're in right now. The price of everything is going up.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Eggs, milk, haircuts, hoo-ha, whatever, whatever, whatever, everything. You say that hoo-ha,
Starting point is 00:48:56 there's something. Everything. What you say, you say that hoo-ha. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That cost too. It's high. It's high in 2025. Your at $20, $25.
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Starting point is 00:52:41 To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ah, Shelly Ann Frazier Price, she does it again. In the parent day with her son, she smokes the other parents. Let's take a look at the video. Hey, that is so funny. I mean, why are you even running? Hey, I wouldn't, listen, the rest of the parents got to be,
Starting point is 00:53:28 got to be, whoever come in second place. That's all I want to do. And guess what? It ain't no men, ain't no men that could outrun her. So don't say, don't worry about it, baby. I'll take care of it.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Don't worry about it. She dust y'all too. Hey, that was dope. She's going to dust y'all too. Hey, can you imagine, can you imagine your mom, your parent being Shellyann Farrier-Price, and you come to school and it's field day. Oh, yeah, you're winning.
Starting point is 00:53:52 And the parents got to participate. Oh, man. Oh, that got to be one of the greatest feelings. Oh, yeah. All the races, she winning. Absolutely. With the softballs thrown or the Kroger sack races, you got to check. I don't know. Joe, you in front of country so we had the sack race i guess i already knew hey i was always gonna win that because most of them kids they never didn't know what a croaker
Starting point is 00:54:16 sack was so i know they wasn't joe they had never been in one being from a farm i knew what a crocus that y'all call them burlap bags we call them crocus say y'all call them crocus like joe uh yeah hey i know what you're talking about yeah it was more like some we had more like some potato sacks i don't know yeah yeah that's it that's what it is okay yeah. I was a monster in that. What? I was a monster in that. Ocho, you thought I had jackass in me the way I was hopping. Huh? You thought I had jackass in me the way I was hopping, Joe.
Starting point is 00:54:57 And then, you know, we had a two-man. So everybody, you know, I'm saying, Ocho, you have like the leg. You put your leg, one leg in there, somebody else put one leg in there. And I put the other leg, yeah. They always put me when somebody's slow. Yeah, that's because you probably was cheat code already, you know what I mean? And you get old. If you're not in unison, you're going to fall.
Starting point is 00:55:18 You got to be in unison when you're hot. Because it's slow, Ocho, that's why we're going to fall. You slow, I'm dressed. Man, you know back then, Ocho, I hate to lose. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, always. Because we got ribbons.
Starting point is 00:55:34 You know what I'm saying? Hey, granny will pop them like a dollar. Back then, you know, soda, you can get a soda, you get a soda for like a quarter. You get those wise, those wise potato chips,
Starting point is 00:55:44 you get those for 15 cents. You got candy bars for like 15 cents. So a dollar, $1.50, man, I give you two sodas, I give you the wise potato chips, I get a payday or Snickers, a zero, man, you good. And we got ribbons.
Starting point is 00:56:02 So, you know, we got first, second, and third place. Yeah. How I'm going home with we got ribbons. So, you know, we got first, second, and third place. Yeah. I'm going home with six blue ribbons and a red or pink because I got a sorry teammate. Man, I hated that, man. I'm trying to get all, I'm trying to take all blue ribbons home. As a matter of fact fact I think I still got some of the ribbons too man
Starting point is 00:56:27 well you keep everything I do I got clothes my grandmother kept I got a pair of overalls from when I was about three years old
Starting point is 00:56:37 I got a jacket from when I was like four or five years old them suits that I told that my mom bought me and my brother for Easter that made us look like
Starting point is 00:56:46 like John Travolta and Saturday Night you still got them? I still got it my grandma kept everything dang yeah my grandma kept everything
Starting point is 00:56:58 you ain't got none of that alright now it's time for our final segment of the evening it's time for Q&A all right now it's time for our final segment of the evening it's time for q and a we ain't got no sound damn
Starting point is 00:57:17 retired deputy sheriff says if you could take one part of your game and give it to a current player who's getting the upgrade joe if you could give one part of your game and give it to a current player, who's getting the upgrade? Joe, if you could give somebody your game, who are you giving it to? If I can give somebody my game, a current player? Yep. Give them a part of your game. Oh. Damn, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:44 I got to really think about that I got some who you giving to ISO too I'm saying it's some guys who I think I mean definitely in this playoffs who kinda already got it and I think
Starting point is 00:58:00 Shea I like Cade Cunningham in Detroit I like Cade Cunningham in Detroit. Oh, he nice. I like him. He poised and patient. He's a big guard, 2-6-7. Can't create.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Can't score. Can't create for his teammates. I think that's going to be a great series, man, for who they playing, the Knicks? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's going to be a great series for Detroit. Yep. Yeah, so I like Cade.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I'm looking forward to watching him play in this postseason. Dexter Jones said, Ocho, if you bet $346 on the Lakers to make it to the finals, it will pay out $5,200. And up, ask Joe what he thinks about these one-on-ones and if he wants to smoke. See, Ocho, all you got to do is bet $346. The Lakers make it to the finals.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Right. I like it. Or you can take your phone right now and download Cash App, or you can download PayPal, and I can send you your money right now while we're still on the show. Ocho, I don't, Ocho, I tried to download it. I can't.
Starting point is 00:59:14 You don't want, hey. Hey, can't shouldn't even be in your vocabulary. I know you learned that when you were young. They won't know too much information. They won't know your bank account. They won to know your bank account. They want to know where you stay. They want your address. They want to... Yeah, I already
Starting point is 00:59:30 know. No. I don't go to school, Ocho. He ain't going far left, man. It's all good. Listen, I'm going to send you your money with a pigeon carrier. How about that? I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Write me a check. I'll take a check. You got checks? Absolutely not, man. It's 2025. Ain't nobody write no checks in 2025. You don't write no checks? Hell no.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Oh. I take checks. Personal checks. Traveler's checks. I got you. Cashier, yeah. Cashier's check. Hell, go to Western Union.
Starting point is 01:00:18 I tell you what, send my money to Western Union. They take too long, but I ain't going to that window. And they're going to charge you a mean fee, too. Yeah, uh-uh. No, they're going to charge you a mean fee, too. Yeah, uh-uh. No, they're going to charge him a mean fee. They're going to charge me nothing. I'm just going to go up there and collect my money. I'm just going to go up there and collect my money.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I'm going to take the fee out of your money. I ain't worried about it. Hold on. I'm going to take the fee out of my money. Because you're sending me to an institution that's charging me to send you money. So I'm taking the money out of your fee if I got to pay it. That don't make no sense. You should have already paid me my money. If you, okay.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Thank you. It'll be cool. Joe going to beat Ocho, then hit Magic City for the wings. Joe in 30 seconds. They're going to 11. He going to beat him 11-0. He might get lucky and make a shot at two. Yeah, you know, I doubt it.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Hey, you know what was funny? The fact that y'all don't understand that I'm a better basketball player than I am at any other sport, and you really think you're going to beat me is hilarious. Like, it's hilarious. I mean, and I mean no disrespect, because you that boy. You always been that boy. When y'all coming to the lab? When y'all coming to the lab?
Starting point is 01:01:28 I told you, my daughter trained me. I didn't be bumping the club all night with Ocho. He just talking. He ain't like. Talking? When y'all come to the lab? If you watching me play, one thing I do, one thing I do, and one thing that I'm great at is when I talk,
Starting point is 01:01:41 I back up everything I say. So what's your best asset as far as like hooping? Like up everything I say. What's your best asset as far as like, what you good at? What's your best attribute? Off the dribble, create space. Off the dribble, create space. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Hey, listen, you gonna think I'm going west and I'm gonna send your ass east. Okay. You got the right one. I'm like, hey, listen, you're going to think I'm going west, and I'm going to sing your ass east. Okay. You got the right one. Joe, you got the right one. And listen, you tall, you 6'8", too, because once I get you moving one way, if you lean. I ain't no big man.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I'm a big guard. I'm a big guard. I don't care. Add Tracy McGrady, what happened to his ass? I know. Add Tracy McGrady, what happened to his ass? I know. Add Tracy McGrady, what happened to him? You gave him that work. You gave him that work. You gave him that work.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Hey, gave him that business. You hear me? He didn't know. He can't answer me after the game like, why a nigga hoop like that? Yeah, I could have played in the NBA, but I chose to do something else. You're lucky. Interesting. I really like that.
Starting point is 01:02:44 King O'Ban, your old Joe. Joe gonna have you touching the hardwood like he did Paul Pierce and Leon Pope. Peter J. Peter D.
Starting point is 01:02:55 J.D. Young says, Uncle Ocho and Joe, can you please give a shout out to my wife Cherish? She keeps making our house a home while being a tremendous mother. I want her and the world to know how much I love her. We absolutely would do that for you, Peter.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Cherish. Peter wants you to know that his life is complete because you're in it. Not only are you an outstanding homemaker, you're a tremendous wife and a mother. And he says, you know what? there is not a world where he doesn't see himself loving you you got something special cherish cherish it peter thanks for reaching out i like it peter all right peter cedric jr said hey uncle and joe today is my fiancee's, Denae's, birthday. She's turning 26. Can you guys wish her a happy birthday? We absolutely can. And, Seth, Denae, happy 26th birthday.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Yes. Happy birthday. 26 years and a lifetime together with Seth and happiness. Hopefully, y'all did something very, very special today. Hopefully, you got a nice gift. But at the end of the day, the most important thing is you two have each other. Congratulations. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 01:04:13 That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap brought to you by Boost Mobile. Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or BoostMobile.com to join their nationwide 5G network today. Make sure y'all go follow Iso Joe on IG. Y'all know me. I'm your favorite Liberty City legend, the Bengal Ring of Fame honoree, the Pro Bowler, the
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Starting point is 01:04:56 Thank you, Joe, for coming on. We really, really appreciate having your expertise on this game, this beautiful game of basketball. Thank you. Thank y'all for having me. Please make sure you subscribe. Hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button
Starting point is 01:05:10 and go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. Thank you guys for your support. Now, guess what? We got Joe two nights a week, and we're going to have some other guys on a rotating schedule as we move forward. But we had to get Joe
Starting point is 01:05:25 locked in. Joe, thank you for carving out some time in your schedule for us. We greatly, greatly appreciate and hopefully you like it enough. You'll come back and join us for the fall NBA season as well. Oh man, come on. Y'all know it. Y'all know it. I appreciate y'all for having me, man. Hey, I look forward to us getting
Starting point is 01:05:42 to develop a relationship, man. Me and y'all. I like that. So I appreciate y'all, man. For real. look forward to us getting to develop a relationship, man. Me and your host. I appreciate y'all, man. For real. I appreciate y'all. Appreciate you. Go subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast feed. Make sure you go check out Chez Balaportier. Joe, we got to get you something. I know you don't drink, but it'll be a great
Starting point is 01:05:58 souvenir. Hold on. I didn't say I didn't drink. I'm like, I'll see if you're working with me now. Hey, don't act like that. Hold on, Joey. Joey, that is quick. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I don't know about that. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't act like that. You know what I mean? Hey, let me get Soda and Laporte. Let's see what they're hitting on. All right. I got you.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I got you. Hey, look, I don't need to be on here asking y'all what's up. Hold on, send me some of them cigars, man. Let me see them cigars. Oh, I got you. Say less. All I need is the address. Okay, put me in the game, coach.
Starting point is 01:06:27 We'll be in the game, baby. Oh, he got some other cigars coming, too. He got some Daniel Marshalls and some... Hold on. Hold on. Matter of fact, you talk to Kenyon? I have her. Well, listen.
Starting point is 01:06:39 And the 70-gauge. Yes, Lunatics. Lunatics. He got them 70-gauge Lunatics. Hey, nothing that's going to put He got them 70 gauge lunatics. Hey, nothing that's going to put me out of my misery, man. You know, I'm just, hey. I got you. Hook me up.
Starting point is 01:06:52 I got you. I got you. Hey, when can you, Mark, go send me my stuff? You need to talk to him. Damn it. Hey, I hate to have to tussle with him. I hate to have to beat his ass. Make sure you go check out
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Starting point is 01:08:40 faced the Grizzlies for an opportunity to be the eighth seed, and the Heat beat Chicago. They faced the Hawks for an opportunity to be the eighth seed. And the Heat beat Chicago. They faced the Hawks for an opportunity to be the eighth seed and faced the Cleveland Cavaliers. That concludes Nightcap tonight. We will see you tomorrow. Friday. We'll see you Friday.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Joe will be back with us on Friday. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm up. Ocho. Iso. We're out. The Volume. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm up. Ocho. Iso. We're out. The Volume.
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