Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Wemby’s future, Dodgers World Series, Belichick’s girlfriend

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and J.R. Smith discuss San Antonio Spurs Victor Wembanyama’s bright future in the NBA and compare him to the likes of Giannis Antetokounmpo. Later, Unc, Ocho and J.R. congratulate the Los Angeles Dodgers for their comeback win against the New York Yankees to win the World Series, Bill Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend dresses up as him for Halloween and much more!03:13 - GG Jackson on Wembayana15:45 - Danny Green19:15 - Dodgers win World Series29:28 - Rough Draft36:27 - Dressing up as Belichick43:48 - Q and Aye(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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actively avoids using Holmgren's name. What's the most underrated rivalry in the league right now? Damn. I ain't even know that, and I just threw what he named it. What is it? My bad? My bad, young fella? Yeah.

He won't even mention it. Really? He's like, yeah, he look forward to playing in Oklahoma City. He looks at playing. It's a great young team. They got some good players, yada, yada, yada. But not one time because they specifically asked, what do you look forward to match up with Chet Holmgren?

And he went on about that thing. But I think Chet and the U.S. team beat the French team in the under-19 a couple years ago. And I think that's still in his crawls. I like it, though. I like the way he approaches it. That is the case.

Because it's a very friendly game out here. And we need some competition, like, straight, I don't like you and you don't like me alright cool let's bet so for me like I think the best one is kind of died down a little bit was

the Devin Booker and what's buddy Luca that was a good one for me but that was a good one for me. That was last year they were going at it, wasn't it? Last couple years they've been going at it. Okay. I just noticed last year that they were chirping away.

Man, Luca looking. I ain't gonna lie. I like the book, but Luca looking crazy. Man, look here. Nice. You could... I thought he could be good because you saw flashes, but I had no idea he was

going to be this. He's going to be otherworldly. I'm not going to lie. I had no idea, no nothing. I thought he was going to be a Ricky Rubio situation. I was not expecting this at all. Not even in Rubio situation. I was not expecting this at all. Not even in the least bit.

I thought from the very first person that when I saw him play, I said, he move. He's like Larry Bird. He can't jump. He slow as hell. But he's going to get to the spot that he wants to get to. And he be busting people ass. So that was the first person I thought when I saw him play.

I said, damn, he remind me of Bird. You know, it's crazy, too. And it was like, for real, for when I walked up on him for the first time, like, I seen him play on TV throughout the year. And I went to one game. And I looked at him, like, oh, bro, you like 6'8", for real. Yeah. Like, you're not like, you know what I mean?

You're not like one of those little dudes who just like oh no you a big dude like so when I see him in the post and all that I'm like how is you letting him post you up like how is you I got next to him like okay I see why I see why but is it

because Swish is that because he's he doesn't have quickness, but he, they can't time him up because just when you think you about to block it, he's up and under you. Or just when you think like, I'm waiting on him,

he'll, he'll step back on you. What is it about him? Is it his unorthodoxness? What is it about him that he's able to get whatever shot he wants, whenever he wants, however he wants. To me, it's a lot about

his pace. He plays at a pace to where you can't speed him up and you can't slow him down. You can't speed him up into trapping him and trying to double team him because he's just going slowly, crab dribble back out of it, wait, take his time. A lot of that

is to having the confidence and knowing, obviously, you're not coming out the game and being able to have free will, do what you do and play how you want to play. But I've never seen one, even like Pat Bevs, the long lanky defenders, so many different people try to guard him. And he literally, like, if you're too small, I'm taking you in the post. Even if he's not fast, he can get to that little step back and throw a little shot fake.

And dude's jumping because it's automatic cash. So he gets to the free throw line at will, too. So it's almost an unathletic version of what James Hart was doing but just more efficient I think and if you think about it you knew like his what was it like his second year maybe his third year

is that he gave PG that work he said Kawhi you two time defensive player of the year bust Kawhi ass hey Pat Bell you do a lot of talking. Come get some of this. And talking shit, though. Yes! That's what threw me, y'all. I'm like,

I've been around in a while, and I've been around a lot of Europeans, played on their team and everything, but like, talking shit, like, y'all, yeah, motherfucker, come get this work. Like, I'm like, oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

Oh! Yeah, I need one of them. I need one of those, for sure. It's hard to get one of those Euros, dog. Maybe over there, like, I play with your players, bro, and it's so soft. Like, you know, back in the days,

bro, fundamental, like, ah, you know, back in the days bro fundamental like ah you know elbows and all that but now i'm like between him yannis and uh i mean counting beat however you want to call it and yokich oh my god but if you look but you know what ocho and swish is that if you look at it most of the europeans they've always played like Jokic, like Luka. You look at Sabonis, you look at Detlef Schrempf, you look at a lot of these European players until Giannis. Giannis was the first, really the first one to go up in that. I mean, I don't really look at a king as the European,

because the king was over here. But if you look at like Jokic, you look at Luka, you look at Albedo Sabonis, you look at Detlef Schrempf, Rick Smith, you look at a lot of – they like – they move the same. Yeah. They unathletic. They ain't jumping out of the gym. They slow, but they're going to get to their spot.

They're going to do what they need to do, and they're going to put the ball in the basket. Yeah. Because I'm looking at Jokic, I'm like, he ain't never lift a weight. He only walk by the weight room. Luka, he only walk by the weight room. And then you like,

you look at the stat line, how he get 60 points with a 20 rebound triple double switch? Waking in the hurry. It'd be a quiet 62. I say it'd be a quiet 62. Huh? Man. I say it'd be a quiet 62.

Yeah. Oh, he could score now. He's scoring because he could score in bunches. I mean, you look up and he done got 20 points in the first quarter. You're like, damn. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. Joker is different. He's just, I mean, he's efficient.

And it's different when you can play a game. He plays the game the way I've never, honestly, I've never seen it played before. Because it's like, he plays so carefree, yet he's thinking the whole time as he's playing. So it's like he's playing like he don't care, but he understands what's going on throughout the whole game, who's open, who's doubling from where.

But he don't really, like, I'm not going to say he don't love it because I feel like that's unfair. But it doesn't... I'm not going to say mean as much either, but I don't know how to explain it. Because the way he goes about the game is completely different. Just being able to win a chip and be like, yes, I get to go home.

Like, yo, fam, what? We just won a chip. Yes, I get to go home. Let me ask you this. When you look at, I mean, you played in the league with Kobe. You played with LeBron and KD, Steph. Does when a superstar win that title, are they able to relax more? And we start to see, because normally guys win that title, they take off. Yeah, I think for sure when you have a fascination with the game

and I'm not going to throw Kobe's name in there because Kobe was different, man. Kobe was just so individually motivated beyond anything I've ever seen before, as well as bra. And I don't think Pete, a Bron gets the credit that he, he, he deserves for it.

But like when I'm, I've got an opportunity to watch it up close and personal for a couple of years and like to see it day in day out. And it's almost like he's breathing. Like that's how well it's manicured and maintenance as far as taking care of his body and making sure the main thing is the main thing. And I heard a lot of that is how Kobe approached it in the same ways

also. But when I tell you literally no lie, this man will literally on an off day, get to the gym at 9 o'clock, sleep in a hyperbaric chamber, cold tub, hot tub, get shots up, work out,

eat, go back on a training table, go back, get shots up again, workout, lift weights, cryo chamber, go to sleep, and do all that on an off day. Like, on an off day. Like, bro, what is... Like, I'm not going to lie. I was of the mind that I work hard, just as hard as everybody else. And I do two of these in the offseason, X, Y, Z.

And I got to see this shit up first up and close. I'm like, oh, no, buddy is different. Oh, no, buddy is different. Like, this is like, you know, some people who feel like they eat, breathe and walk the lifestyle. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and walk the lifestyle that they put forward. No, no, no. Everything my boy do is predicated around making sure

he's available from September to June 7 p.m., couple Sundays at 1, 1.30. And other than that, everything else is second fiddle to that so

hearing you say that what he's doing on off days I take it just by listening that you talk you're not surprised that he's playing this long and he's playing this well this long

no I am because we've never seen it. And, you know, it's just like... I hate to say it, it's like just like... I don't want to see it stop, but you have to continuously ask this question like, yo, bro, when is this man going to slow down?

Yo, bro, bam, you 40. You just had a triple- triple double with a 35 ball yep on some young boys that just out here playing athletically nah dog like i can't like you know really think about it and on top of obviously the rules changing and the games changing i'm sitting there like shit if tom was in shape i could see how he could play for another five, six years. If you can mentally outthink everybody else around you, you're smarter than everybody, you're in shape, you're not

really getting hurt like that. Shit, why not? He had 26 points on 13 shots tonight, Swish. Lunch meat. Lunch meat. And who the dude was guarding was 25. Yeah. 25 years old, old 24 years old idolized him the whole life they don't know he don't know how to guard this man like oh shit i'm really guarding brian he scored on me damn this thing gave me triple double that's how

it be i've seen it that's how it be. Danny Green went on the Running Back show, and it was asked, how much better off is Wimby with Greg Popovich? He said, Joel Embiid and all these superstars, I think careers would be a lot different if they played for a different coach starting out. Swish, whose career would have been most different with a great coach?

Mine? No, honestly, mine no honestly sitting here and think about it with a great coach I'm gonna say Mello man I think Mello I think Detroit not drafted Mello was

probably one of the greatest travesties in sports man like he was easily the better player. And with that team, what he would have learned from Chauncey, Rip, Tayshaun, Ben and Shee, like, you got McDyce coming off the bench. Like, you got real live vets to where you coming in and, like, you know what I'm saying?

Just, like, little shit like not'm saying? Just like little shit, like not wearing your practice Jersey, like that shit ain't flying, not tucking your Jersey in. Like the respect of the game is completely different to where you go to a team where you to show. And like, you know,

you come out there, half your shit, break it up, have your shit out. And people just like, okay, no, he just be a metal.

You come to a team like Detroit, everybody, Oh, you'll play it. being mellow. You come to a team like Detroit, they'll be like, oh, you're a player. What you doing? You in or you out. And that right there will change the course of, to me, the course of his career dramatically. Dramatically. Because you're allowed to, not only are you allowed to fail, but you're shown how to be a leader.

And I don't think he was ever really given those tools to be shown how to be a leader in those situations. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there's so many stories

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Iran Contra, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Congratulations to the Dodgers. The Dodgers beat the Yankees. They fought them five, and they come back and win 7-6. So the

2024 World Series champ. Go ahead, bro. The Los Angeles Dodgers, Ocho. The Dodgers come back and win it. They won it 7-6. The Yankees committed three errors that allowed the Dodgers to get going. And when they got going, they couldn't stop it. And congratulations.

We know Freddie Freeman's going to be the World Series MVP. That's a no-brainer. That's the easiest decision that's ever been probably ever been made in the World Series, or at's a no-brainer. That's the easiest decision that's probably ever been made in the World Series, or at least in a very long time. I'm sure there have been some others that have been clear-cut. But nothing is as easy as Freddie Freeman. Freddie had, what, three

home runs? Three home runs. He probably had ten ribbies. He had two more tonight. But congratulations, the Los Angeles Dodgers, the 2024 World Series champs. That's dope.

That's dope. The Yanks folded. The Yanks folded in the postseason, huh? Well, this series, the errors killed them. They committed three errors. Remember we talked about turnovers. When you make the turnovers, you got a 5-0 lead. You can't commit

errors. Late in the ball game, you can't turn the ball over. All turnovers aren't created equal. All errors aren't created equal. And, you know, Hey, give the Dodgers credit because it's one thing for a team to commit the error. This is something entirely different for you to capitalize on that error.

Yeah. And the Dodgers made them play. And that's what you have to do. Team make mistakes. You make them pay the ultimate price by costing them the game. And again, congratulations to the Dodgers 2024 world series champ. They take down the New York Yankees 4-1 in the World Series.

Whose career would have been different? What'd you say, Hunt? I'm trying to think. Switch, would you say, do'm trying to think switch would you say do you think lebron how let's just say lebron gets a uh a steve kirk or he gets a pop or he gets a phil jackson he gets a pat riley do you think how different would lebron have been not very different at all.

Not very. I mean, I feel like LeBron is very, I feel like LeBron was going to be LeBron anyway. Okay. I feel like, and it's crazy because my high school coach, Dan Hurley, a UConn coach, he told me this when I was coming out. I was a senior in high school and I asked him,

who do you think is the better player between Brown and Mello? He's like, Mello, I think he can be really good. I think he has the opportunity to be one of the greats. But LeBron, I think, I don't he told me this literally 20 years ago. He said, I don't know how long he plays.

If you look at his body and you look at his physique and look at what he does on the court, and if he's as smart as everybody says he is, I don't know how long he plays. I think he can literally play as long as he wants to. He said that back then. And I'm sitting here looking like, Roe was always coachable.

He was always intuitive about the game. He was never a person that felt like he knew everything. He was always wanted to watch film, watched it anyway, watched all the games. Like I used to go to his house and in the summertime, like sometimes in high school and he was like that in high school. And I'm like,

bro, you just watch the games all day. Like you just watch games. Like he was, he was like that in high school and like bro you just watch the games all day like you just watch games like he was he's like he literally like a sports almanac and this is he can remember he like recite it and it's like that's which like that's you know certain people just had a gift and not like that's part of his gift like that's just what it is and i'll sit here and look at like no matter what coach no matter what other player you put around him, like fortunately you put great players around him, he'll be obviously rise even higher.

But he's going to be that anyway. You look at that team that he took to the finals with Cleveland, the first step, like. Yeah. That should have never happened. That should have never happened. And I don't think, honestly, I don't think it'll ever happen like that again.

Yeah. Like, it's incredible. That's incredible. With some of the players? Yeah, there are a few players like that, huh? And, Jay, you think? Where's that? No matter what team they went to, they would still be themselves?

You know, your AI? Yeah, but I think when they look at it, we're looking at it, I think sometimes I think what Dan is trying to say, maybe ring-wise. Oh, okay. Well, you got to say that. You got to state that in there. Oh, well, ring-wise, I don't think, I mean, if you go off of ring-wise, just eliminate

eliminate Colt first three. Just eliminate Colt first three with Just eliminate Kobe first three with Shaq and Phil. And then just give him Phil. And he got two. So if Kobe got two chips compared to his five,

where's his greatness at? Okay. That's tough. There's nobody arguing his talent and how good he is. But if you don't have the chips, that's tough. There's nobody arguing his talent and how good he is, but if you don't have the chips, that's where... And people say, well, you can't... I say, when you're talking about

because when you're measuring greatness, because as you get to a certain level, you've got to start splitting hair and swish. There's got to be a differentiation of how we say, well, who gets to take the next step? And then who gets to take the next step? And then who gets to take the next step? So,

you've got to factor in rings. You've got to factor in all NBAs. You've got to factor in MVPs. You've got to factor in finals MVPs. You've got to factor in all-star game appearances. How many times they went to the finals. So, there are

steps that you've got to take. Okay, if we've got guys that went to the finals. So there are steps that you got to take. Okay, if we got guys that went to like, say, 10 All-Star games. Okay, boom, we step together. Okay, one went to six times All-NBA, the other was five. Okay, we can still step together. But now, one won four MVPs, the other one won. Okay, I take another step, you stay right here. Okay, you won five here okay you won uh uh five titles

uh i won six you take three steps i'll take two so we have to have something because once you get to that level once you get to the top 10 nba players you have to have something that that says okay this is why i believe player X is better than player B. Agree or disagree? No, I completely agree. For me, this is why I feel like the Baseball Hall of Fame is so special because there's no sugarcoating. There's no like, oh, off of how I feel, this

is who should get in. No, what's his numbers? Yeah. What did he do? Because the numbers and that, if he didn't do this and he didn't do that, then why are we having this conversation?

Because they've been recording those numbers for 150 years. Baseball has the most sacred numbers because if I throw out 500, you know that's home runs. If I say 300, that's either hitting, you're a 300 hitter, or you got 300 wins as a pitcher. See, football numbers aren't really sacred

because you don't really know, Ocho, how many rush yards Emmitt Smith had. You don't know how many receiving yards Jared Rice have, but you know numbers. If I say 56 games, you know that's Joe Devon, Joe Hiddink Street. So those numbers are so sacred, and they're there.

It used to be if you hit 500 home runs, you're going to the Baseball Hall of Fame. If you have 300 wins at the pitcher, you're going to the Baseball Hall of Fame. What are the criteria for the NFL, Ocho? Is it 1,000 catches? Is it 800 catches? Is it 100 touchdowns? Is it 80 touchdowns? Is it 80 touchdowns? I don't, in basketball,

I don't know, I don't know, what is it? There have been only a handful of players that ever reached the 30,000. So, obviously, if you score 30,000 points, you're going to the NBA Hall of Fame. There's no rings. My only thing is like with the NBA Hall of Fame, you can get in the Hall of Fame like as an ambassador.

Yeah. They take everything. They take college. They take Olympics. They take everything. See, in baseball, you get the MLB. In football, you get the NFL. That's what you did in college because there have been some college players, guys that played in the NFL,

Ocho, and you know they had an outstanding college career. But because they weren't that good in the NFL, you ain't going to the Pro Football Hall of Fame if you ain't do that thing in the NFL. Period. Point blank. Yeah, man. We got to tighten up

on our Hall of Fame, man. It's getting out of hand. Even with the top 75, Dwight Howard don't make it. Don't even get me started. Don't even get me started. Come on, bro. Come on.

When we take other cats who just because they relevant, they still playing, I'm not rolling with that. We're not just going to disrespect my boy like that because y'all just feel like he's not working. Y'all don't like him like that ain't that that's not what this is yeah that's that's hard man because like again like in well for me

like in the nfl like i'll measure like great good and great quarterbacks by your playoff record right if your playoff record ain't that and like you like, you not – like, I don't care what you – what's Boyd named for the Chargers? He had a hell of a regular season. Oh, Phillip Rivers? Phillip Rivers. He had a hell of a regular season. He going crazy. We get to the first game, he out of there.

Romo, he out of there. Dad, he out of there. I'm like, oh, bro, I don't care what you throwing for 10,000 yards in a regular season. What that going to do, bro? We keep throwing – Like, come on. Yeah. All right, Swish, this is our first segment with you.

We got one of our favorite segments. It's called Rough Draft. Okay. I'm going to give you the rules, Swish. What it is, is that we take turns drafting top five depending on the topics. Normally, it's just Ocho and I, but since you're new, we wanted to bring you into the equation. So tonight's topic is best Halloween candies.

So you pick one, I'll pick next, Ocho pick last. That's one. And then we go two, three, four, five. And then we'll put it into the poll. And we say who has the best Halloween candy bag. Swish, me, or Ocho? I'm going to win this again. I'm going to win again.

Okay, Swish. You up first. What's your first one? Fruity's, the flavor of Tootsie Rolls. Okay, Fruity's, favorite Tootsie Rolls. I'm going the bite, I'm going, uh, uh, the Bite Size Snickers. Yeah, the Bite Size Snickers is good. I'm going the Bite Size regular, regular M&Ms.

Okay. Ooh, I'm going... Bite Size Skittles bag. Okay, Bite Size Skittle bag. I'm going to go in the Reese's Cup. Nah. I'm definitely winning this.

I'm going with the candy jewelry that the kids love. You got to thank Halloween. The kids love the candy jewelry. Okay, go ahead. What you got, Twitch? the kids love halloween the kids love the candy jerseys i'll go with the box of dots okay box of dots i'm going i'm going plus size twix nah y'all definitely losing this man man. The ring pop, man. The kids got their ring pops, man. Come on now.

You go on your face, you go and get candy that you got when you was a kid. They don't pass that inch out no more, man. At all. He had the little sweet tarts with the sugar packs. Nah. Nah. Let me see.

Ooh. Oh, I got it, I'm definitely winning. I gotta go with candy corn. You just lost. Switch just lost. That's the kill for them. Switch just lost. With that damn wax.

Yeah, for sure. That's it. Candy corn is it. I'm going, I'm going to, what is my light? Oh, the point sizesized Kit-Kat. Okay. In the fridge, though.

See, we in the suburbs, we passed out Sour Patch Kids. That's where I was going next. Ah, yeah. That's where I was going next. Sour Patch Kids. Oh, man. See, where I was going next. I was past kids. Oh, man.

See, you brought up the suburbs. There's one crib on the corner, dog. It's a big, big white house, dog. They got the good shit, huh? They give out the extra large Milky Ways and the Three Musketeers. What? I'm going with the Milky Way for sure.

Man, I hate Milky Ways. Oh, man. You know what? You might say. Last but not least, I'm going with the little nerds. Okay, nerds are going. Nerds are going.

I'm going to end it with Twizzlers. Okay. I'll go ahead and give him a trophy now. No, I got this one. That's a good one. I'm gonna end it with Twizzlers. Okay. I'll go ahead and give him a trophy now. Nah, I got this one. I know I got this one. Hey, somebody say give him, man, give them kids full-size candy bars. I was at Walmart yesterday trying to find the damn candy. Man, it's just

Christmas here. I was at Walmart yesterday trying to find a damn candy. Man, it's just expensive as hell. So how y'all do it? Y'all let the kids, do y'all sit it out there and let the kids pick what they want? Or do they let them ring the doorbell and then y'all pass it out? I ain't pass out no candy in years, huh? Don't come to my doorstep. Make sure you got to turn your porch light off.

If you got your porch light on, they coming to your porch. For sure. I'll sit a thing out there and just take what you want. And so the last kid, because I'm going to turn it off, and the kid come up there and is like, I'll say, well, you're the last one. He's like, we can have it all. I'll say, take it all.

Yeah, I cut the light on, man. I'm going to leave me a little sign outside. You know, we've been fortunate and blessed, so we live in a good area. So the kids are a little nicer than where we grew up for it because, you know, you leave the bowl outside. They're taking the whole bowl. The whole bowl.

They might take the stand and the bowl is off. From the jump. What? Hey, no, but first day. All right, so here's the list, ladies and gentlemen. Swish went with Fruity Tootsie Rolls, Skittles, Dots, Candy Corn, Milky Ways.

I went with Bite Size Snickers, Reese Cup, Fun Size Twit, Fun Size Kit Kat, and Nerds. Ocho's went with Bite Size M&M, Candy Necklace, Ring Pops, Sour Patch Kids, and Twizzlers. Candy Necklace necklace funny as hell. Alright guys, who

had the best Halloween candy bag? Huh? Ain't no way Ocho winning. I told you that. I told you. I told you. Listen, I didn't want this. You probably never beat me at rough draft ever again.

Hey, now I don't fool. Did somebody tell you about some nine-laters? Man, that nine-later pulled out all my implants. No, I swear. Man, I'd be running around like a jack-o'-lantern. It'd be Halloween in my mind for real. For real. That's the best job,

Briggis. The hell, nah. Man, I remember I was in a, I was in a, man, we was in,

I was in a meeting switch, and you know, I had a Mary Jane. You remember Mary Jane? Oh, man. Man, Ocho.

Man, I been down in that Mary Jane. Yeah. Down to the whole side of my mouth came out. I seen a dude do that with a sugar daddy. Oh, they had sugar daddy, sugar baby, and sugar mama.

Mess with them if you want to. Yeah. Man, I walked out of there, hey, I ain't say nothing to nobody. Ocho, they called me about 30 minutes. I said, man, I'm at the dentist. Because if I'd have said something, everybody

would have seen how I'd be out. I said, oh, no. Walk straight up out of there. I said, man, I'll be back. We're straight to the dentist office. Dressing up as Bill Belichick

seemed to be the popular choice for this year's Halloween theme. First, his 24-year-old girlfriend dressed up as Bill Belichick. Hold on. Coach Belichick got a 24-year-old and y'all want to get on me talking about shit? Oh, that girl, your daddy, that man

is how old, Coach Belichick? 72? He got a 20. Y'all can't say ish to me. Wait, they said that girl your daddy age. That's what they be telling me. You got a daughter them girls age. And I see them

shopping together. Hey, you age. Hey, you ain't. Hey, it's weird. I say both of y'all pick out something for your daddy. Your real daddy and your new daddy. Hey, y'all better get out of my face. I'm done.

I ain't listening to y'all no more. I done listened to y'all for far too long. They in the same study group. Yeah. Man, it got me feeling bad. I was like, man, you know what, Ocho? They might be right, Ocho. Man. Because Ocho talking about, oh, you need somebody,

man. You need to get somebody your age. I'm like, what we gonna do? Play Biz Whiz? Gin Rummy? What's wrong with finding somebody your age, though? What's wrong with that? What's wrong with that? What's wrong with that? What's wrong with that?

What's wrong with that? Hold on. Hold on. I feel like it's more to this. I feel like it's more to this. I feel like you feel like you might not have something in common with him. Like, what's going on? We got something in common?

Robo-Tussler. Wait a minute. That's what we got in common. So that's a personal preference. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm done. Coach Belichick, 72, got a 24. 24?

24-year-old. Damn. Look at that. That's strong. Hey, that's McCall'sold. Damn. Look at that. That's strong. That's, hey, that's McCall's man. 24. That's strong. All right.

Let me ask you this. How was the first conversation? How you think it went? I don't know. Where they met? Where they met? What do you mean? They were on the plane. They were on the plane together. They were on the plane. Because the first thing they say, if you're talking, let's just say for the sake of it, I'm 56. If they see me talking, they see me talking to somebody 35.

Creepy old man. Look at old creepy uncle. Straight up. Yeah. Straight up. Coach Belichick, 71 71 talking to a 23 year old he probably she was probably the cart girl

on the golf course I bet it hmm Coach Belichick go ahead give it up for Coach Belichick let's put some hands together for Mr. William C. Belichick. Hey, I already know.

I'm getting some, you know, I already got me a big old Easy Bake Oven. I got me a Barbie car, Barbie doll. Hey, I'm in the business. You ready? No, I think, look, I think from like half my age, what's half my age? 28 plus 7, that's 35. Right.

Okay, that's a good number for you, though. Hey, hey, hey, Swish, minus 3. I'm not bad at that number for you though that's a good number for you I feel like somebody in the 33 you know 33 37 they got some good they got some good

they got their shit together they tired of the activities and you know what the first thing they think what y'all got in common? Yeah. We like each other. We've both been to Super Bowl.

We've both gone to All-Star weekend. Hey, Ryan Fitzpatrick commented on the photo saying for all you 48 year old hopeless romantics out there just think about your future person may not even be born yet RC dressed

up as coach Belichick inside the NFL that's too strong that is yeah dang that's 50 what how old is he 70 what he's 72 she's 24 what's that

I'm gonna send him some of these old roast sparks 48 years he on these sparks damn was he married before was he married before was he married before or just like twice

yeah he's yeah see back a long time ago 72 year old it was over for you but then it came out with the advent of medicine now you good good now he better than me dog cause I'm done

doing startups I'm done doing startups I'm done I'm done doing startups dog you gonna have to you gonna have to I need a partial investor I'm done I'm done doing that

no sir not me you call him startups yeah I ain't doing no more startups dog it's over for that it's over for that I'm Michael Kasson founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on

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New York, Braun in Cleveland, L.A., and how did you have to adjust your game to playing with them? Easiest answer, with Mello, I had to go get my shots. I had to go shot hunting. I had to just wait, and it was going to count, and the shots was had to go shot hunting. I'm blind. I had to just wait and the devil's gonna come to me. The shots was gonna come for sure. So for me, the biggest difference is going from a go-getters

mentality to being patient. Like that? Why I said name a movie that Swish, Unc, and Ocho could have played in. Name a movie we all could have played in? Yeah. Hey, Harlem Nights.

Harlem Nights. Yeah. Life. Oh, life for sure. Life would have been, that's a good one. Lady Ray said, hey guys guys as kids do you uh did you do anything bad rebellious that you totally got away with uh no they don't know mary and barney port ain't play that i don't get away with shit wait what was the question as kids did you do anything bad or rebellious that you totally got away with? No, sir.

Today, my mama's birthday. She ain't playing. No. 61. She ain't playing at all. No. Man, look here, man. Where you think I get the lack of patience from, Ocho?

Oh. All that laugh, eh? God. Hey. God. TV. It's up on foot. Hey. They didn't play that. Hey.

Oh, like I said. Oh, Joe, I can't relate. Like people from the north. I don't really know. But I'm talking about people from the south. If you, I don't really know, but I'm talking about people from the South. If you from the South, you know exactly what I'm talking about. All people ain't do that noise. All that running, all that kiki-kiing.

Hey, man, they ain't play that. And being disrespectful? Talking, like, I see these kids talking back. Oh, I don't want it. What? What? What? Your teeth be on the float yes

boy look here see the thing is like them old people like my grandma like you know what I sure wish I was close to that boy I sure slapping me in his mouth and before you know it she done walked up on you and wawa and you so old man man. You so mad.

You better not say nothing. Man. I can't wait to get grown. I'm going to leave. What? I can't wait for you to get grown either. That's exactly what they say. Hey, you can leave now. Think they heard you. Sure. I can't wait for you to leave either

don't call the diapers I'll call them for you yeah man the more people they play man all that stuff that these kids get away with now oh no you couldn't like stomp your feet slam a door slam a door suck your teeth

oh boy look oh don't do that oh boy boy You couldn't like stomp your feet, slam a door? Slam a door? Suck your teeth? Oh, boy. Look, oh, don't do that. Oh, boy, boy. Well, you know what? I wish I had some. A lot of my uncles are past. My mom.

But I wish I had my mom. I'm going to have my mom at one show. And she'll tell you how my grandfather was. That joke ain't play. all that keep that talking back and sucking your teeth or kissing your teeth what's oh no ain't happening oh no sir like I said I see these kids

now and the way they be talking to their parents I'm like I'm like beat him let me start it for you. Let me give him two licks. Go ahead. You finish it up now. I think because parents today

now switch. Correct me if I'm wrong. We all got kids. I think parents today want to be friends, want to be buddy buddies with their kids instead of being a parent. We're not friends. You got friends down the street because the one thing, and I told my kids

this at a very young age, and I think I told you, Ocho, our dynamic won't ever change. I'm the parent, you the child. That's always going to be our dynamic. 100%. And so I'm not trying to be your friend. I'm trying to teach you how to be an adult

and the responsibilities that come along. I was like, I wouldn't ride y'all like this if y'all was going to stay 10. But 10 going to turn in hopefully 15 and 20 and then 30. And then what? Because no matter how the child turns out, good, bad, or indifferent, who's getting blamed? The parent.

100%. The child turns out good, he was raised right. She was raised right. A student, prodigy, the parents did an unbelievable job. The kid turns out bad, mm-hmm, I knew it.

Yep. That's just the way it is. It's crazy. I've seen grown parents hold it. Like I've seen my parents at 35, 40 years old, hold their composure because of my grandfather said, so my grandmother would have said.

But now it's like kids can act out and the immediate reactions like he's just expressing himself. Oh, you... You are allowed to have an expression. Oh, no. No, I tell you how to feel.

Yeah. I tell you how to feel. I tell you the emotions that you should have and that ain't it. At all. When you like... It's funny because every time I hear the Bernie Max skit, I crack up. It you like, it's funny because I, I hear that every time I hit a Bernie Mac skit, I crack up. It's like,

you, you ever been hit so hard in the back of your teeth. Click your parents. He's like, shut the fuck up. Like, don't just be gone. It's like,

bro, immediately. It wasn't no thought. It wasn't no, I got another question. It wasn't no follow up. Nothing. It was like,

whatever i was gonna do i'm gonna erase that and figure out something else to get away from these people because they do not want me sitting right here right now no it's too it's too friendly it's way too friendly i don't want to be my i don't want to be your friend and even like even like my grandfather my my mom and them was wrong, got kids. They ain't never buck to my grandfather. They ain't never buck to my mom. Hey, we just eat it.

They might be wrong. You just eat it and move on. Now, oh, you know, he just, you know, I want them to express themselves. I want them to have an opinion. Okay. You wonder why he had the school shooting that shit up.

Yeah. And always in trouble. Nah. We just come from a different era. We just have to accept. Okay. We just got to accept. Now, Swish, it's a different time now, bro.

And it is what it is. Dab Smith said, met a girl from my teammate. She invited me to her dorm room one night. As I was picking her up, Hulk Hogan style, I jokingly said, you're a little heavier, though. I don't know why I said it. Can I make it up to her? No, hey, don't come after that, bro.

Now you can't play by the woman's weight, why? No, no, no. You should know better than that already. Yeah, but hey, but you should have been able to assess the situation early. I mean, I can look at one. Okay, I can pick up. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? How are you going to pick up and tell her, oh, you're a little heavier than I thought? Yeah. But you assess that. You can look at it and tell. I look at me. Okay. Up to about 180.

Now, the teacher I used to work with, when I was ill, when I was well, up to 200, I had you. Good. Okay. Okay. That's a drop down now. Probably about 150. $150. Nah, nah, nah. You got 185 for sure.

No, no, no. Hold on. Not holding her up. Holding her up like this. No, no. I can't hold her. Okay, okay, okay. Hold on. Hold on. Were you holding her right here or is she up here? No, no, no, no. You come down a little lower.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're too high. You got her too high. I ain't no forklift. I ain't no forklift now. Hell no. I ain't going to lie. I ain't going on the shoulders, dog. I ain't going on the shoulders.

No, no, no. Okay, I'm just saying. And you only got 30 seconds. You got 30 seconds right there. That's it. I'm going to have to sit you down. Putting her on the shoulders, dog. He's done it.

For sure. You know, like I said, 250. I mean, back in the day, I could hold 200. I could hold 200 for about a minute or two. Right. And I've gotten older. The hips done got repaired. The back ain't as strong as it once was.

Right. But, you know, a 250? Oh, you ain't got but two ounce of body fat. You got that. Now,

but you have to understand, holding dead weight is something, is something entirely different. Yeah. Yeah. Which, I mean, you know,

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pick it up, pick it up, pick it up weight because you got to realize when you pick up a human, arms hanging, legs hanging, it ain't like she can help me. You got a baby boy that time. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why I got like 150. I might. I might. It all depends.

If it's something brand new, I got 165 in me. Brand new 165. Oh, yeah. That's max. Yeah, yeah, that's max. That's Max Yeah Yeah that's Max That's Absolutely What about Meg though

The Stallion Meg might be like 175 Nah nah nah Me and Meg cool Nah nah Meg thank you for coming on Oh my bad

My bad My bad My bad My bad My bad My bad I was just saying The size of that

The hottest That's what made group. Man, the hottest almost had me canceled. Nah, man. Nah, I don't want no smoke, dog. Nah, nah. Nah, hey, like what they... Like, two back in the day, you know,

see, people, they look at weight. I ain't say she could be 5'2 and 250, but if she's six foot tall and 250, 6'1? Yeah. Hey, man, I had a point guard I played with, dog. He had a sand dog. She ain't a lady unless she 280.

Yeah, see? Yeah. He's a point guard. Six one, 195, soaking wet. She ain't a lady unless she 280. Yeah. You know what I'm saying, though, Joe? Like, yeah, you know, in college, you had one so big, you know, you had to just pick up one leg. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? No joke. Like, yeah, you know, in college,

you had one so big, you know, you had to just pick up one leg. Yeah. You pick up one leg. You couldn't pick them both up at a time. She's like, pick the other leg up.

I'm like, baby, I'm about to sit this one down. I'm like, come on. You went to HBCU, dog. Hold on now. Hold on. Both of you.

You know what I'm saying? Hey, you can't pick both of them up. You got to choose one. One at a time, baby. Hold on, dog. Hold on. You know what I'm saying? You can't pick both of them. You got to choose one. One at a time, baby. One at a time. Now, come on now. Work with me. That's a go. You got to understand what you're working with. Understand what you're working with, baby. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hey, that concludes our episode of Nightcap, man. Hey, Swish, we're going to have a ball, man.

This was unbelievable, man. We appreciate you joining us. Y'all see who it is, this episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite up, Shannon Sharp. That's your favorite 85. Liberty City's own, bingo ring of fame, honoree, pro bowler, all pros, the legendary Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. Just call him Ocho.

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