Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 2: Zion out for season, Pistons & Timberwolves brawl, Ball brothers snitching

Episode Date: April 5, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best hoops stories of the week, including Zion Williamson out for the season, Pistons vs. Timberwolves: Malice at the Palace II, & much more!04:20 - UConn and Texas advance to Final Four11:52 - Zion and McCollum done for the season25:33 - Pistons vs. Timberwolves fight30:20 - Ball Brothers snitching39:00 - Women’s Final Four(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Head over to your nearest Boost Mobile store and make the most out of your tax refund. UConn advanced to the Final Four for the 24th time, beating USC 78-64 in the Elite Eight. Paige Buckets, Beckers, 31 points, six assists. That's coming off a game in which she dropped 40. Sarah Strong had 22 points

and 17 rebounds as they led the Huskies to their 24th Final Four appearances. UConn is hoping to win the first national championship since 2016. We'll face UCLA in its Final Four run on Friday. USC's Final Four drought continues with tonight's loss.

USC will head the next season with its Final Four drought set at 40 years. The Trojans last made it. Cheryl Miller, final season as a player. When they were national runner-up, they lost to the Lady Longhorns that year. I think Clarissa Davis. I think they Lady Longhorns that year. I think Clarissa Davis, I think they were 35-0 that year.

But they did win back-to-back national championships in 83-84 because they beat La Tech, the Lady Teamsters. So, long drought. We knew it was going to be an uphill climb without Juju. They were going to have their work cut out even with Juju.

With Juju. So I have a question. If Juju was playing, do you think there was a chance that they would have had better chances? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Or do you think they still would have lost? I'm not going to say that. But I'm saying Juju is one of the two or three best players in college basketball.

I'm not so sure she's two or three. If you get where I'm going with this, she's sensational. Absolutely, they have a chance. And we were hoping because we saw what that matchup was last year. So we were just hoping that came back again. And when they were on the same side, it lined up perfectly. Okay, we're about to get this matchup again. And unfortunately, we did not get that.

So it is what it is. Hey, Juju will be back stronger, better than ever. I don't know if she's had the surgery, but Paige, say they exchanged information. Paige is torn her ACL. She's gone through this. There are a lot of players that have torn their ACL that can have a conversation.

Keep her up. It's just a minor setback for a major comeback. Reach out to Adrian Peterson. Obviously, it's a little different, you know, football and basketball. But I have no doubt in my mind that Juju Watkins is going to come back and she'll be as good, if not better, than what she was before. Yeah, but UConn is going to be tough. UConn is going to be tough.

They're good. Geno is good at the college game. He's the greatest women's college coach. I'm not so sure you're going to tell me there are four or five men coaches that are better than Geno based on what he's done. With that being said,

you never say never, Ocho, because in one game, anything can happen. Somebody get hot in three, they can make a bunch of threes and shoot you out of the gym. But the way Paige is playing, boy, they got their work cut out for them. I mean, you remember when Kaitlin Clark went on that run. The last couple of years, Kaitlin Clark would blow it up everybody. Paige Beckers is having that type of game.

She dropped 40, and then she drops 31. Ooh. game she dropped 40 and then she drops 31 oh yes that's not that's not that's gonna be a difficult a difficult handle uh azzy fuzz had not played particularly well lately but when you get page playing as well as she's playing you know fuzz uh could go off and then uh the lady tonight, what was it, Sarah Strong, 22 points and 17 rebounds. Huh? She's a freshman? Yeah. And so now that tells me when you get that many rebounds on show,

you'll get some second-chance points because they ain't all defensive rebounds. She's getting some of those on the offensive end, which is if she doesn't put it back, she's going to give you an opportunity to get a lot of second-chance points. So it's going to be a very tough matchup for UCLA, but UCLA say we belong. We've been ranked number one. I think they've only lost two games. What, they lost two games all year?

I think USC beat them twice. I don't think they lost another game, did they? Or did they lose it? Okay, so they lost me with Iowa? They lost to Tennessee on the road? So, it's going to be a great matchupup can't wait to see it uh texas top tcu to advance to his first final four since 2003 the horned frogs entered the first half with more turnovers 11 than made field goal 7 tcu finished the game with 21 turnovers on just 12 made field goals. Texas has that ability. I can see a game

where it's 35-34. USC and Texas. Excuse me. They play each other. They know each other. They're in the same conference, Ocho. Texas beat. Texas snapped. USC's

SEC winning streak, and then, you know, USC returned the favor when they got them in the conference championship. But, hey, two teams that are very familiar with each other. Both of them play outstanding defense. It's going to be a great matchup. We know what Dawn Staley is. She's been here.

She's done that. They don't have the shoot. I'm not going to say they don't have the shoot i i'm not saying they don't have it because they have the same women on the squad that made a lot of a pow pow and you know chloe kiss can dominate the glass i think raven johnson they have got they have young ladies that can make the shots they just for whatever reason they haven't made them this year so it's going to be a very very interesting matchup i think it's going to be i think it's going to be a very, very interesting matchup. I think it's going to be a low-scoring game, Ocho, because both of these teams get out

there defensively. But they play Friday? Both are Friday. Friday, right? Okay. Let's go to the game. They play Friday because the championship game is Sunday, because the men's championship

game is Monday. But it used to be the is Sunday because the men's championship game is Monday. But it used to be the women played after the men's. I think they did. You heard me? You don't want to go to the game? It's in Tampa. You don't want to go to the game. I just asked you.

That's right down the road from you, bro. That ain't right down the road for me. I know it's right down the road for me, but I'm inviting you to go to the game and we can sit courtside and we can talk. Obviously, we probably had a show. No, we don't have the show Friday. We can talk about it Saturday. No, we ain't got a show.

No, I got to be in Virginia. I got a prior engagement. So I'm inviting you to watch the game. I have a prior engagement. I have a prior engagement. What's more important, the engagement or your co-host inviting you to sit courtside at the game? I promised my brother I would do something with him.

He's been in your life all this time. He's going brother I would do something with him. He's been in your life all this time. He's going to be in my life, too. All right. Well, hell, I'm expecting you here, too. I got a prior engagement, Ocho. You know how I get my word. You know.

Okay. Okay. But I invite somebody else. Chan, Chan, you want to go to the game? No. He said he don you want to go to the game? No, he's able to go to the game with you. Ocho, the New Orleans Pelicans have shut down Zion Williamson and CJ McCollum for the rest of the season due to injuries. What are we doing? Zion, in 2019-2020, he played 24 games.

In 2020-2021, he played 61 games. In 2021-2022, he played zero games. In 2022-2023, he played 61 games. In 2021, 2022, he played zero games. 2020, 2022, 2023, he played 29 games. 2023, 2024, 70 games. This year, 30 games. He's earned almost $115 million. There are 82 games season. Right.

But hold on but the 1920 that was the that was the COVID year right so they didn't play a full season 1920 yeah

but he missed 21 games he missed 82 games he missed 53 games he missed 12 games he missed 52 games

I have a question who was it we just talked about 12 games, he missed 52 games. I have a question. Who was it we just talked about where they did a test and decided because of his injury history, they didn't want to sign him? Was it the Lakers? Oh, yeah. The dude from Charlotte. I can't remember his name. I know you're talking about, though. Yes.

Did Zion Williams, before entering the draft, despite how great he was coming in, did he have an injury history? Was he injury-prone? No. So all this is new. Yeah. But you have to understand, you go from playing, what, 25, 30 games in high school 30 35 games in college if you go all the way to the final four to trying to play 82 more demands on the body more grueling a back

to back you ain't paying you know you're not playing back to back in college you're not playing back to backs in high school. Okay, well, what's the answer? Because there are multiple. I'm not sure how many NBA players there are in the NBA, but they've been playing 83 games for a long time. Injuries do happen. But do injuries happen? Some people are predisposed.

Some people have, you know, the way you're built, the way you run, the way you land. There are a lot of things that go into it. At this rate? With Zion. We haven't been able to play a full season yet today? But here's the thing, Ocho. When you talk about a man his size, when have you seen somebody that size, that explosive?

Shit, not like that. No, exactly. And until, you know, I think the thing is he's a little heavy now he looked good he came back to say he was 264 which is as light as he's been since he's been in the nba light man how the hell you jumping like that at 264? No, he was jumping like that at 284, 300. He's explosive. But that's a lot. I mean, think about it. You know, planting, stopping, and cutting.

You were able to do that because you were light. Just imagine somebody 225 trying to stop, plant, and speed outcut like you did. Exactly. Hey, listen. Something got to do with it you did. Exactly. Hey, listen, some guys can do it. Exactly. Exactly. He is a – he has an 18-wheeler body, but he has a Ferrari engine in it. And so he's so explosive. He gets so much elevation.

At some point in time, all that boundary, up and down, up and down, running in and out. And you have to stay on top of it, Ojo. You have to get your treatment. You have to make sure you're icing your knees and your ankles. Look at LeBron. A lot of times, LeBron, he got ice packs on his back. As soon as the game over, he got ice packs on his back.

He got his feet in the cold tub. He got ice bags on his back. As soon as the game was over, he got ice bags on his back. He got his feet in the cold tub. He got ice bags on his knees. Man, I remember when I first got to the legal show, man, I saw them guys getting in cold tub and ice. I said, man, get y'all old ass out of here. They said, okay, keep on playing.

By year five, my young ass was in the cold tub. So, I mean, are the Pelicans the blame at all, or is everything, is the onus on this and the injuries year after year after year, is this all on Zion? Just curious. Well, I mean, look, look, they, I mean,

Ocho, you can only do so much. I mean, what you do and what you do, how you eat, how you prepare, are you getting enough rest? There are a lot of things that go into it. Teams cannot watch you 24-7. You can't. That's where the really good players, they do it away. Because if all you do is what's required of you, you're never going to be great.

You're never going to be great. You see, you know, I was reading the quote will I am said he said work-life balance is for someone that's fulfilling somebody else's dream you got work-life balance you paying for somebody else kids to go to college you paying for their second and third home that That's not yours. So what is it that Zion wants to do? How great does he want to be? Because if you want to be great and ask anybody that wants to be great, I'm talking about great, great.

Ask them what their work-life balance is about. Go ask Steph Curry. Go ask LeBron. Go ask anybody that wants to be great. Tom Brady, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson. Go ask LeBron. Go ask anybody that wants to be great. Tom Brady, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson. Go ask anybody. Everybody don't want that greatness, though, Ocho. Yeah.

Talk about it all the time. I can't want it. You can't want something more than somebody wanted for themselves. Right. I don't care how much money you give somebody cuz event eventually that stimulus will go away if you're not a very self-motivated person they ain't enough money in the world to keep you motivated but we've seen guys hundred million dollar contract two hundred million dollar contract and give

it all up John just got to make it to what's important to him. What does he want to do? How does he want to be remembered? Hey, he's made money. He's made a lot of money. He's made $115 million. That's an NBA salary, not counting what he's made off the court. He has a brand Jordan deal that probably plays him $10 million a year. He can just live off that.

Yeah. He has some local stuff in New Orleans. I'm sure he has some local brands there that he's doing stuff with. there's a price to be paid for greatness.

And if you're not willing to pay that price, you don't deserve to be great. You don't deserve to be paid for greatness. And if you're not willing to pay that price, you don't deserve to be great. You don't deserve to be successful. I ain't going to sugarcoat it. Everybody doesn't want that. They don't. Everybody don't want to be great, don't you?

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Yeah, I think someone like him, as great as he was you know uh in in college i i would think and i would hope he would want to continue that greatness and i think it's just been it's been derailed due to obviously the injuries um maybe the weight obviously being the size that he is and being as explosive that he is having that combination, it doesn't see fit. The first thing to give is your body. Certain parts of your body. I would think becoming or getting a little smaller, similar to what Dak has done

and dropping 20, 30 pounds. How come they said, Dak had dropped? I think it would behoove him to do just that. I'm not sure who the people are around him, who his team is. I'm hoping he doesn't have a team of yes people that don't want to

challenge him in any way. They see fit so they don't get their water cut off, if you know what I mean. It's hard to find people like that, Dojo. I'm very fortunate that I have friends that and my sister, and she don't care.

I'm like, you talking to me like this, you know I pay all your bills? How can I have you out on the street? You talking reckless to me like this. But it's honest. And I need that. She gonna check me? Yeah.

But it's not easy, Ocho. Because greatness requires greatness is boring because it's a very monotonous, tedious job because you do the same thing over and over. Over and over and over. If you look at people, now I'm not talking about now. I wonder how many vacations Jeff Bezos took when he was trying to build Amazon. I wonder, guys, that started Google, how many vacations they took when they were trying to build Amazon. I wonder guys that started Google, how many vacations they took when they were trying to build it? Well, when you work 200 billion, you can go

wherever you want to go now. I'm talking about in the process of building. Right. Man, I need... Work-life balance is not for people that desires greatness. It ain't. Hey, I don't know the effects, and I don't know.

What would happen if, and I mean no disrespect, what would happen if a player of Zion's caliber, would he still have that same explosiveness if he took the alternative route and taking something like Ozempic? I don't know. I don't even know what that's a miracle. I don't know. Excuse me for even asking i'm

not trying to be disrespectful i'm just asking you know it's probably it's probably banned i mean in order for you to take anything anything i mean look it's best to run it through the nba let it let the medical doctors say it's probably banned unless you have diabetes it's a diabetes it's a diabetic drug ocho that's what it was intended for. Right. Okay. So unless you got diabetes, the NBA, the NFL, the MLB probably not going to let you take it.

Right. I don't know. I listen. I'm sure they've been trying to stop scenarios that he knew or think. There's sacrifices that come along with that. You must be willing to deny yourself certain things. See, discipline requires you to do your very best when no one else is watching. You see, discipline, okay, I want to do this. I need to do that.

Do I do this or do I do that? That's what discipline does. I can remember, though, when Zion came in, the way they were talking, the way they hyped him up based on what he had already done in college you do realize he was the one that was supposed to replace LeBron and be in the face of the league you know they were pushing, I remember, they were pushing

that and I was, listen I would have loved to see someone take that torch and have that torch passed on him but I mean I think the injuries had just derailed it. And at this point, being that he's not even played an 82-game season yet, I mean, why not take the alternative route and doing something else that makes it – can take the weight off you right there?

But if it's something the NBA won't allow – I don't even know if you were to – I mean, because a Zempik weighs muscle, and you'll never get it back. Look at people that take ozempic and look at their musculature. Is this there? There's no oomph. There's no oomph to the muscle. Look at people.

Look at people that take ozempic and look at their definition it's just nothing right yeah but listen if you don't have the muscle that that that takes away some of the explosion of course if you strip muscle away where you take the muscle you got muscle in your glutes your hamstring your quad yeah absolutely it going to impact you. Yes. Yeah. Okay, never mind on that. Ocho, the malice in the palace, part two. Did you see the fight earlier tonight? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Between the Timberwolves, Pistons, Naz Reed, and Juan Holland.

Exchange words leading to a scrapping between almost everyone on the court. Seven players were ejected. Who was ejected? Do we know who was eject who rejected i wouldn't i wouldn't i guarantee you israel stewart got ejected you heard me huh i wouldn't equate this to the the malice of the palace and that's that's that's more coaches even got into it okay you had holland israel stewart marcus sasser head coach j Bickerstaff were ejected on Detroit side. Naz Reed, Dante DiVincenzo, Pablo Prigioni from the Wolves were also tossed.

Damn. The coaches got to squabbling. I ain't seen no punches or nothing. I just see a little tussling, a little wrestling. Now, Malice in the Palace, that was Royal Rumble. Yeah. I mean, punches going everywhere. I mean, listen.

I wonder what started that. That had to be a constant buildup throughout that game. Damn. Oh, get off me boy man Adam Silver ain't gonna like this Adam Silver say hey the ratings are down but we don't want to get them back like this hey but listen

something like that even as small as it might have been little fisticuffs but that'll get but that'll get some viewership, man. Yeah, the dollars out of your pocket. David Stern cleaned that boy's job up. I don't know before you're tired, but the 70s on show? Yeah. In the 80s, early 80s, they squabbed.

I mean, they think it wasn't no pushing and shoving. They were doing them things. They let them hands go. David Stern said, oh, no. Ain't no more. Ain't no more. And see, after the malice of the palace, when David Stern put that pain on Metal World Peace, I think Steven Jackson got suspended.

Jermaine O'Neal. Jermaine O'Neal. I think they ended up, Ben Wallace got suspended. Yeah. Oh, man. They made it so cost prohibitive. Ocho, I mean, Ron O'Tearns got suspended 56 games. That's damn near his whole check.

You make it $10, $12 million, that's gone. I ain't trying to game. Hey, I catch your ass in the off season bro hey hey Ocho hey I catch you in the off season and you better have a pamp on

cause when I see you I'm gonna slap the shit out you yeah yeah hey that's that's crazy yeah hey make sure you got some baby wipes

yeah we got this hey where's that read at oh where read're worried you said baby to my dude you to my dude yeah I said no I'm just saying you know I can't I can't give up that kind of money ultra and that's how you see guys they make it 50 60 million and it's about a out of punch them no you wouldn't have. And lose $40 million because you punched somebody? Yeah. Hey, if you want to give up $40 million, you need to go to boxing.

Bud is available. Better be there. You know, better be somebody like that. I ain't punching nobody for the $40 million. They have their damn mind. Nuh-uh. At all. I mean, it

sounds good in theory, but like I say, guys just going to, you know, look, you shove somebody, you know, your guy going to run and grab you, their guy going to run and grab him. Ain't nobody really trying to wallow. And I ain't trying to give them that kind of money. Just a little tussling, that's all.

No big deal. No. No big deal. No no big deal no pun no punches thrown nobody injured nobody hurt all all this fan love and war man tensions got a little high sometimes that's what it comes to it does uh but i look when they said detroit i already knew isaiah stewart was gonna be a part of it. He'd be in the mix, huh? There's not one incident that has happened in Detroit since he's been there he hadn't been a part of. Part of it?

Oh, they call him Beef Stew. He didn't force it in. Yep. He's going to be a part of it. Yeah. And so, like I said, when you say Detroit, oh, yeah, he in it. He in it. Hey, no question whatsoever.

Ocho, Lonzo Ball and Mr. Smitchin' on LaMelo back in the day. Ocho, you ever snitch on your siblings? If so, for what? You know what? Two brothers, Chauncey and Sam, I've never been in a position where I've had to tell on them. That's a good one.

I've never been in a position where I had to snitch on my little brother or my older brother. I'm snitching. You gonna tell? Huh? Or you just playing? My silence can't be bought. Oh, you gonna bribe?

God, you gonna extort him? Yep. You gonna extort Spanky? My brother, my sister, my aunt. Oh, man. You got suspended. Because, you know, they ride the bus, and then they get good at school, and they walk up town until time, go back, you know, they ride the bus and then they get good at school and they walk uptown until time.

You go back and then they get on the bus and go home. Right. That'll cost you $5. Oh, come on. You can't do that. Grady, let me check Spanky, me and Spanky out of school. We were in Statesboro. We're shopping.

Yeah, you're going to tell about that. They didn't even do nothing wrong. My silence could be bought. Now, if you don't want me to snitch, go ahead and break bread. That's a good one. I don't know why y'all don't want to. Hey, you know what that remind me of?

And I'm going to see if you remember it. I don't think people in the chat might not know about it. Obviously, you come from the church. I come from the church. Please tell me, Uncle, you remember the song by Mrs. V. Mass Choir called Pull the Wagon? With a little boy, he threw the rock and hit the duck? Yeah. And his sister saw it and for him, for his sister not to tell his

parents that he killed the duck by throwing the rock, he had to pull in the wagon. I don't remember. You never heard that story? Oh, man. You're like, you got to hear it. Because as soon as you said, my silence can be bought, that's the

first thing that came to mind. I tell on everything. See, I had an aunt. Now, she was perfect. The way you keep my silence. Right. Dairy Queen, burger, milkshake, fries. Go do what you want to do. I'm going to sit in the car, leave the window cracked.

Oh, man. Now, because, you know, we're supposed to go from point A. My grandfather would say point A, point B. Point B, yeah. Okay. Nah, we didn't go point A. What about we went to C too. And my grandma, take that boy with you.

Yeah, take that boy with you. Yeah. So you can tell exactly where you can take all the stops. Think I wouldn't when I would? You better pay me. Oh, that's funny. Pay me. A little something to hold me over.

A little $2 here, $2 there. Ain't nothing. That's it. Keep quiet. Just so you know, there have been times that that i have been paid and they've made me mad at a later date and time and i still had to regurgitate what i knew oh you come on man you can't i just say i had you know hey boy i know i know not to do nothing wrong with you man god leave if i pay taxes in 2024 does that mean i don't gotta pay taxes in 2024, does that mean I don't got to pay taxes

in 2025? It's still fresh. So be on your best behavior. Don't be talking crazy to Shane. Okay, I got you. I got you. I got you. I have done that.

You know, I apologize. All right. Anybody that I snitched on, any of my aunts, my sister, my brother, have done that, I apologize. All right. Anybody that I snitched on, any of my aunts, my sister, my brother, I want to take this time now to apologize. Damn. Damn.

I take this time to apologize. You know snitches get stitches, man. Not when Barney Porter was alive, I wasn't getting no stitches. Because I tell that too. But look here. All I had to do was make a noise.

Right. Hey, what's going on with that boy? Hey, don't play. Don't play. Boy, if I start crying, that's why my stick is hit. Hey. You going to raise hell going on out there?

You going to raise hell, huh? Okay, okay, here, here, here. Here, I give you $3. Don't say nothing. Nothing, I fail. My brother had to punch me or something. Trip me. Mm-hmm. Hey, had to punch me or something. Trip me. Mm-hmm.

But y'all shut up. Oh, yeah. I tell. I would tell back then, though, Joe. I would. I apologize, though. I want to say that was not the Shannon that I am today. Okay, so you won't tell today, though? No, I ain't telling.

All right, Jordan. Jordan was late. Hey, y'all, Jordan was late today. I called him, asked him for something, but he ain't returned my call. He was late. He got here after Ash. Appreciate that, though.

Well, he had to pay you? Yeah. No, no, yeah, he was late. The first time he'd been late in a minute. Yeah, oh shit. Yeah, no, no. Don't even do that. That's why I had to be late.

Boo John. No, I don't tell nothing not now back then I was different me I was trying to find myself even I can't find it in myself to tell I can't it's easy

especially if it's something if it's something I saw or something that I might have witnessed or something I just I can't what did I might have witnessed, I just can't. What did I witness? Whatever it may have been. I'm just saying in general.

I don't know the circumstance, but I can't tell them. I can't tell them a brother. I can't do that. No, no, no, no. Hold on. What did they do now? Who did it? Let me ask you a question.

Who did it? I don't know. see yeah you asked me I ain't see I'm rich I'm rich it's gotta be who did it now my brother that now somebody don't know oh yeah that's him I'm pick him out yeah that's Golly. Yeah. Right there. Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody know. I'm like, what Jordan? I don't know.

You talk to Jordan all the time. You tell me, I talked to Jordan earlier. Okay, you did. But now you ain't talk to him today. He late. You ain't talk. So don't nobody know nothing i'm like nino brown don't nobody know that that's that's funny that's that's funny that's funny how that always work i just i i couldn't do it i i can't do it i can't do it you can't do what that just just just tell you ever see you ever see sometimes some situations

where the mothers of kids that have done something wrong and they actually turn their kids in? Yeah. It all depends on what he did. Okay, okay. I see what you mean. Yeah. You're right.

No, no, no. You own up to that. No, no, no. The one thing a sharp kid going to do is going to own up to that. No, no, no. The one thing a sharp kid is going to do is going to own up to responsibility. Yes, sir. Oh, no, no, no. We're not letting somebody up. No, no, no, no. Just like you.

He say, I told on Teddy. Yeah. I came and got Daddy. He say, Daddy, Teddy pooped in the house. He say, you didn't hear it from me. But he say, you probably going to figure it out because it's going to be really small. So it was him.

Did you tell on Teddy? So where is Teddy now? He said, you want to go stay with Ocho? Yeah, come on, come on, come stay with me. Hey, Titus, imagine what we could do. Imagine, Titus, imagine the content we could create together. We could create magic. You want to go to Miami?

He got a female ball roll. Oh, yeah. About 120. Ocho, half of the women's Final Four is set. Number one seed, the South Carolina Lady Gamecocks and the UCLA Lady Bruins punch their tickets to Tampa, Florida today. Two remaining spots remain. The TCU Lady Horned Frogs takes on the Texas.

No, TCU, excuse me. The TCU Lady Horned Frogs takes on the Texas Lady Longhorns. UConn, the Lady Huskies, takes on the USC Lady Trojans minus Juju. Great matchups. Could we get all four number one seeds? That might be the first time that will ever happen, right? Four number one seeds in the men's side goal, four number one seeds in the women's side goal

in the same year. In the same year. I think that would probably be the first time. I think if we're going to get an upset, it would probably be TCU. But UConn could possibly spring the upset. But, man, Paige Buckets, she was sensational. She was sensational the other night. She went on a 19-0 run by herself.

Normally you see a team go on a run, they go on 10, 15, 20-point runs. There's a lot of scoring going on. He went on a 19-0 run by herself. So she seems to be peaking at the right time. Seems like everything is going their way, but I can't wait to see. Like I said, the Lady Gamecocks and the Lady Trojans, Bruins, they're there. They're waiting on someone. Who will it be?

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Bruins beat LSU to deny them another final four appearance if I'm not mistaken I think this is the Bruins this is their first final four in history of the basketball the ladies basketball program now they're strong and used to be strong in ladies softball and lady volleyball oh yeah they were tremendous when they had lisa fernandez they got this thing started they were really really good in softball no they were that

were really good they were great in softball right um but right now but for them to now flip the script and be good in basketball ladies basketball that's very very that was very good they've come a long way oh joe we have some very interesting sounds from the LSU Tigers head coach, Kim Mulkey. Let's take a listen to what she had to say. Jayden Smith, KLSU Sports. Coach, it's the second straight year you guys get eliminated in the Elite Eight. Just kidding.

Yeah. Is that terrible or is that good? Terrible. Is it? How many Final Fours you put in? Oh, Lord. None. So it's probably pretty good huh yeah all right really oh oh joe really yeah but listen uh you got to be careful with the the question and the way you worded the delivery and what you're asking especially after after a game after a game

like that and being eliminated yes you know what they tell players? You know what they tell players after a game? Take your time and cool down. Come to your senses before you answer any questions. She just lost the game, so you have to understand why she was feeling the way she felt

and why she answered the question the way she did. Has she not lost a game before? Yeah. I mean, Ocho, it wasn't, he didn't even get a chance to finish the question. He's asking a coach, this is the second time you've been eliminated.

And for you to snap back and say, well, how many Final Fours have you been to? I mean, this is, I understand. Listen, I totally understand where you're coming from. As a journalist, as an analyst, excuse me, as a journalist, he has a job to do. He has questions to ask. To mention, oh, this is the second time you've been eliminated. You have to understand where she's coming from and see it from her perspective.

Well, God damn, I just got eliminated. You let me know it's the second time I got eliminated. I don't know how many times I've been eliminated. Just how about word the question differently and you wouldn't get the response how would you have worded the question um coach it's an unfortunate loss you guys have been eliminated and then go on to what you want to say mentioning that she's been eliminated twice it's totally unnecessary and it's some bit of a jab and that's the way she took it which is which is why that excuse me i'm talking too damn fast which is why she answered it the way she did she was snappy based on the way the question was answered you change the way you ask it you change the delivery i guarantee your answer is different i don't think that's all that's all i'm saying

i don't believe so kim mochi has been nasty for a long time, and she's gotten away with this type of behavior because she is a national champion winning coach. Oh, so she has a history of doing this. She has a history of doing this. The same thing with Bobby Knight. Bobby Knight had a history of bad behavior, but because he was a national champion winning coach, you excuse said behavior.

Remember, people excuse behavior if you win, if they like you. Kim Mulkey has been nasty for an extremely long period of time. If this is unacceptable for an athlete to say, well, how many times have you caught a pass in the NFL? How many times have you scored a basket in the NBA? How many times have you struck somebody out of the – that would be unacceptable. This is unacceptable for Kim Mulkey. Because, you know, he phrased the NBA. How many times have you struck somebody out of the... That would be unacceptable. This is unacceptable for Kim Mulkey.

Because he phrased the question is that, hold on, wait a minute. Coach, I know you're probably upset. This is the second time in back-to-back years you got eliminated. Considering she went to the... Did she go... Hold on.

Oh, she went to the Final Four. Who put hold on. No, she went to the Final Four. Didn't, who put, yeah. Yeah, Lady Lake. Who put out? Was it Awa? she doesn't plus ocho she doesn't have the horses that she once had. Right, obviously. Yeah, yeah. Okay, because I remember because they beat them in the national championship and then I returned the favor.

She doesn't have me. You lose a double-double machine. And Angel Reese, she was sensational. No matter what you think about her, she was a double-double machine. She's going to probably give you 15 and 15. And it was hard to keep Lauren Betts, 6'7", off the glass. They got a lot of extra points. They got a lot of extra second-chance points.

Hawkins, Gabriela Hawkins, was great from the three-point line. She really put the dagger through the heart. When they got the rebound, they got the kick out. Betts turned around and found her, and she nailed it. That was for all intents and purposes. That was the dagger through the heart. When they got the rebound, they got the kick out. Betts turned around and found it, and she nailed it. That was for all intents and purposes. That was the end of the game. Flage was sensational, especially the second half.

They needed more scoring, and they couldn't get that other than Flage. They really didn't have a whole lot. Amaro was kind of neutralized because Betts is 6'7". That's a lot of hype, and so she did a great job. I think she has six or seven block shots. But I just look, I get it, Ocho.

I get it. We're upset when emotion is high, logic is generally low, and we say things. And probably she probably doesn't feel bad because, like I said, she's a four-time national champion winning coach. And she's gotten away with saying things.

She's gotten away with treating people nasty. But for me, I just expect more from a coach. Right. That's all. That's all. 17, 18, 19-year-old kids, yeah, I get it. But when you've been in this situation for an extended period of time and you expect your players to behave in a certain manner after the game,

I think the coach should set the precedent, should set the example, should lead by example and set the precedent and say, you know what? You're right. We've got to do a better job of playing better earlier. We've got to do a better job of knocking down shots, not turning the ball over. And, hey, getting some better players. At the end of the day, it comes down to players winning.

You know, I can coach them up and put them in the right spot. But, hey, that UCLA team, they play really, really good. There's a reason why they're the number one overall seed. There's a reason why they won the Big Ten Championship. They got an All-American over there. They're a really good basketball team. So I know we are hurt and disappointed right now that we're not advancing, but we shouldn't hang our heads because we accomplished a lot this year.

We'll be back. We'll be back. Now, listen, that answer you just gave, that's awesome. That's awesome. That would be great for inauguration if you're running for president. But when a woman that just lost and just got sent home, and like you said, emotions are running high, that ain't the answer you're going to get.

So one of these coaches, so if Samson, if he says that, if Shire, if he says that, they ask him, well, you got knocked out. Well, how many Final Fours did you appear in? Is that going to be okay if a man says that? If a woman asked that very question to a man, and he said that, what would be said, Ocho? Would that be okay? You know what's right.

It wouldn't be okay, but obviously... Why not? Wait, let me say something. As a male head coach, you know what? They probably wouldn't answer the question like that anyway. The response would be completely different. Even if they had been to Final Four before and got knocked out a second time, the way they answer the question in general be completely different. Even if they had been to Final Four before it got knocked out a second time, the way they answer the question in general, it's just different.

It just is. Now, I'm not saying what she said was right, but I can understand her being goddamn upset. I don't need you addressing the question towards me, letting me know how many times I've been eliminated. I know that. I just got sent home yeah but Ocho that's the fact there hey the fact the more you invest in something the more you invest in something the more it hurts when it doesn't go your way talk to that's why you see a lot of times I was a very emotional player because I know how

much I put into it yeah so it hurt me and it bothered me when I didn't see guys. And look, everybody take losses a different way. But I was one of those guys considering that I knew how much I put into it, how much I had sacrificed. It bothered me. But I also understood I had an obligation. I had a responsibility. Because had she won, she'd have been kiki-kiing.

Right, right, right. Totally understandable. Totally, totally, right right totally understandable totally totally totally totally totally understandable the height you are when you win if you're 65 when you win you need to be 65 when you lose yes don't go below that because I see that a lot yes that when things go well everybody want hey you got a question what there. Now when you lose, you short. That's it. Oh, you up out of there.

Nah, bro. It doesn't work like that. Everybody wants to win. Everybody can't win. You should be gracious in victory and defeat. So if you're boisterous in victory, stand up there and take it like a man, a woman, when you lose. That's all I'm saying, Ocho.

And she's gotten away with this for a long, long time. Yeah. She has. And people allow her to do this. It's kind of like, you know, I love Pop, but Pop was basically very disrespectful to reporters on the sideline, to Segers. And what do you think?

I'm just asking. I'm just trying to do my job. I'm just trying to do my job. I'm just trying to do my job. Yeah. But like I said, when you win, people will excuse a lot of behavior when you win that they wouldn't necessarily tolerate from someone that doesn't win nearly as much. That's my two cents.

That was a good one. Haley Van Lith was sensational. Becker scored 40 against Oklahoma. I mean, for TCU, not known for women's basketball. Right. You got a good baseball team. Football team's been good over the last couple years. Right.

What about your championship? If I was you, I wouldn't say anything about that. Because I got your ass 50-yard line seats, and you left it at the beginning of the third quarter. So I wouldn't hear anything about you. They must think they were getting blown out, huh? Georgia beat them 65-7. Oh, we still made it.

Oh, I would love to go. She calling me. I'm like, hold on. It's really quiet. Why? Where are you? Oh, we're on the way home. But Haley Van Lith, you know know she went to louisville yeah and the last time she

was at louisville i think uh texas knocked out in the sweet 16 right i think texas locked with you that louisville and they got chippy somebody said something to him and she's like get your hand out my face talking to me you ain't fit to beat me and lecture me that's like me ocho when i'm getting a ticket look you either go give me a ticket right and let me go on my way or you can lecture me and not give me no ticket but you ain't doing both both yeah hey that's funny go ahead Ocho what you gonna say now I would get ready to say I mean the situation you talk about it was it was uh well they in in this what do you call it after the game were you were you exchanging were you shaking hands yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay i i remember that i

remember that that went viral that went viral and i don't i don't i don't know if it was ever reported what was said right with the texas yeah yeah yeah yeah and she's like, get off me. I ain't trying to hear all that. We lost this game. I'm upset. See? But it should be a great game between Texas and TCU. Hey, everything's bigger in Texas. You got two teams battling it out from that state.

Only one gets to go to Tampa and play for a national championship. And then you get Paige Buckets, the UConn Lady Huskies, and they take on the Lady Trojans from USC minus Juju. Everybody knew this was a collision course. Everybody knew considering what happened last year, and we thought it would be just as good, if not better, because Beckers is a fully healthy Juju who was at the top of her game. She was, A, magnífico.

And unfortunately, we're not going to get that matchup. The question is, Arafim, can she lead them? Can she? UConn look really good. Very. They look really good. But, hey, we're about to find out. We're about to find out if it's going to happen, if she can, if Beckers can,

because that's the only thing left to do on her resume. She's been player of the year. She's been an outstanding player. But all the outstanding players that go to UConn, what do they get, Ocho? National championships. Yeah. Your Sue Bird, your Rebecca Lobo, your Sue Bird, your Tarazis, your Maya Mords, the Tina Charleses, the Stewies, the Montgomery's page. The only thing that's absent on her resume.

Championship is a championship. Is a championship. And that's how you that's how you get immortalized there right now look if she was at another program Ocho that's not used to winning national championship right she might be the best player ever ever right but when you go to UConn or same thing a Duke when you go to these programs and they've won and they've had historically great players, that's what Juju is up against. Cheryl Miller, championships.

Cynthia Cooper, that's what you're up against. And so now this is her last chance. Her last chance. Yeah, it's going to be a tough road now. Oh, yeah, for sure. It's going to be a tough road. It's going to be tough sledding. Yeah, USC ain't going to lay down now because they got something to play for.

Look, everybody in the college is like, man, y'all ain't going to do nothing. They're not going to do anything without Juju. Juju's averaging 25 points. We know she has 25, 5, and 6, or whatever the case may be. They don't believe people outside of that team and maybe USC fans that they can get it done without her. She's one of the two or three best players in college basketball. That's a huge to take that out.

Right. And then expect to win. But they expect to win. And that's all that matters. It doesn't matter what the outside world. We expect to win. We know we believe we played our game. We have a chance to win in this game. And it's going to take an outstanding game it's going to take that

because UConn they get out there defensively and they got a young lady that can take the game over and and shoot you out of the gym she can put the ball on the floor now she's not as physical as Juju was but she can stroke it from the three she got nice mid-range but she can stroke it from the three. She got nice mid-range games. She can put it on the floor, go to the free throw line. She's a very, very good player. The only thing missing from Paige's resume, she's been an All-American. She was a player of the year. Championship. Championship.

Championships. Championship. That's what it comes down to, Ocho. It is really that simple because that program you're talking about the program you're talking about the most storied programs in women's college basketball it's really two it's tennessee it is yukon yeah pat head summit rest her soul and and gino yeah the volume Yeah. The Volume. Climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain.

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