Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 2:Eagles LOOKING to TRADE AJ Brown?! + Time for JUSTIN JEFFERSON to JET? + Jaxson Dart has CHIP on SHOULDER + Yankees BEAT RIVAL Red Sox

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Philadelphia Eagles possibly trading AJ Brown this offseason, Justin Jefferson talks about how he’s been successful even with all of the quarterbacks he’s had in his career, and Jaxson Dart is asked if he has a chip on his shoulder with the Giants playing the Saints this weekend and much more! 0:00- Eagles/AJ Brown trade speculations21:40 - Justin Jefferson26:09 - Jaxson Dart vs Saints with chip on his shoulder30:07 - Garrett Wilson on staying with Jets32:40 - Shaquille Leonard to retire as a Colt36:50 - MLB Wild Card Series42:06 - Q & Ayyyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts Pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Oh, my.

We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. Listen to NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Also, multiple executives think the Eagles could entertain A.J. Brown trade this offseason per Jeremy Fowler. A.J. Brown's love-hate relationship with the Eagles is a league's worst-kept secret. AJ's frustration with the state of things is boiling over, according to Mike Florio. Much of the speculation center on the relationship or lack thereof between quarterback Jalen Ertz and wide receiver, AJ Brown.

Last year, then Eagles defensive alignment, Brandon Graham, spilled the beings before doing damage control. Hertz was asked about the relationship this week and said we share great passion for this game and we're focused on this week. As Florio wrote, it doesn't take an advanced degree in psychology or anything more than basic common sense to realize

something is off. Well, hell, we all can see something is off. We see it when we watch the goddamn game. We see it. I've seen some of the breakdowns and some of the analysts break down some of the concepts and some of the things that other teams watch defensively and know exactly what AJ Brown is running based on his alignment and where he is. That's why he's always goddamn covered.

People are about he need to get open. Well, it's hard to get open when you run the same goddamn same concept. That's what you said. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. You said you said you was telling guys, you were telling guys, you were telling guys what you was running and you would still get open. You told me even if you were, hold on.

Hold on, chat. Stick with me. Hold on. You said you tell why I received was what you were running and you could still get open. You said it doesn't matter if the defense know what you're going to do. Can't nobody stop you.

So even if the defense knows what AJ Brown is going to do, he still should get open based on what you've told us for the last two years. Chat, do you agree or disagree? Hey, uh, I'm just going about what you said, Ocho. Can I say something? Yes. I said, Ocho can go out there for 17 weeks straight

and tell every DB that lines up in man, the man is route. Every double team, 55 quarter, it didn't matter what you played. Ocho can get out there and line up. So you said that you're Brian and let me finish. My bad, my bad. Before the ball snap, I can let Carson know, yeah, out loud and let them know, I'm going to get the ball, and there was nothing you could do.

I'm telling you what I could do. But you said no matter what, I'm talking about me, hold on. I don't know about nobody else. Even if the defense, even if the defense, no, you should still be able to get open because it's all about execution. That what you're saying. Hey, I'm speaking solely on me because I have the ability to do it.

That's it, you know? But anyway, this is where for Petulow, where creativity comes into play, the creativity that Mike Shannon has, the creativity that Andy Reid has, the creativity that Sean McVeigh shoes in his offense. But because they are so relying and so successful on the way they do things, they win doing things the way they do it that's all that's all that's all that's all i'm saying but when it comes time to throw and they have to throw jayl hertz is capable of doing that and that's where a jrown will get his targets that's where jrown will get his yards all he has to do is be patient

his catchers are going to come his yards are going to come it's early in the season i'm only a week four it's going to come oh joe it's got to be patient shouldn't this thing been ironed out by now. We went through this for like nine weeks last year. Listen, it should be ironed out, but they ain't using no starch. They're using no starch. We know about the starch. They're going to use the starch

when necessary. That's all. When necessary, so it ain't necessary right now, huh? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Now, they've had a scare. They had a scare against Tampa Bay. You know, Tampa Bay was moving the ball real well, making it somewhat of a game.

But? What a turnover has killed him? Bingo. I mean, they blocked the point for a touchdown. Baker Mayfield through two picks. That was the difference in the ball game. It is. If we don't.

At the end, I agree. I think AJ Brown's a phenomenal talent, but it comes to time of Ocho, production and tolerance. And we talk about it. Wait, whoa. Hey, what's the first word you just said? Pro what?

Production and tolerance. And how is he not producing? Because what? They don't care how you're not producing. What? Ocho, don't tolerate you not producing but what they're what are they not going to allow you to do because i remember i know a guy was was ntonio brown producing absolutely and what did they get

tired of what did i tell you hey go back look at go back and look at a b's number for like a five or a six year straight six year stretch the greatest ever a six year stretch we'll never see a stretch like Antonio Brown number six years 1500,600, 17, oh my God I'm talking about nasty work Now tell the people

what they did They let them go They trade them But you got to tell them why Even with that kind of production Tolerance and production As long as production is here, so with tolerance

Tolerance will never outweigh production yeah now hey we went from there Oakland right you went to Oakland yeah and then he make it a year he no he didn't make it out of training camp because it ended up releasing him and then he goes to uh goes to New England and then does something and then they release him and he went to Tampa with Tom he went to Tampa but I think that I think did he go to Tampa that same year might have been it might have been it might have been in the COVID, it might have been 2020.

I don't, yeah, because, yeah, he was on the team that won the Sub-Bow. So that was the COVID year, 2020. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's what I'm afraid of, Ocho. That's what I'm afraid of. Is that, is that because they're looking at like,

man, you called it a scene. I mean, we allowed you to read the book and we said it wasn't much of it. Hey, that's A.J. Hey, we welcome that, blah. But I'm telling you, you play, Ocho, you know how they think. Oh, yeah.

you know and I also know how they think when you ain't producing either I know I know what they're going I know what they're going to do I know the game I understand that I know exactly what they're doing shit hey

I ain't caught look here I listen he wearing that sea on his chest he's going to conduct himself in the right manner the answers he had when he talked to the media yesterday it was beautiful it was beautiful and I want my players to care I want my players to care

what they want to be part of a system They want to be part of the success that we are having. I want to be part of the offense. I want to be able to contribute. That's all he's saying. No ill will, no nothing. You know, but his time is going to come. It's very early.

They're going to be games. They're going to play teams. 26 is not beating us. They're going to be games. We're going to say 26 is not beating us. And we're going to see Jalen Hurts do what Jalen Hurts can do. Throw the ball. And they're going to get their plays.

He's going to get his yards. He's going to get his touchdowns. just right now, everybody behind the eight ball. Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins. Right now, all the young bulls are having success. No, but they got an excuse. They're like, we lost our quarterback. J.J. and McCarthy is down.

We up to Carson wins. We got Joe Burrell. Yeah, yeah. Understandable. But one thing about it is the cream always razzed at the top. A.J. Brown is in the top five conversations. for a reason. The cream will always razz at the top, regardless of what's

going on right now. He's going to razz at the top. I'm telling you. Are we, are we, are we sure we we're still in the time? Absolutely. Okay, let's go. Jetta. Absolutely. Chase. Jetta, Chase,

Amin Ra. Pooka, four. five wide open boy that fast spot wide open because once you get to that that five spot that's all rego rego now it's definitely what reek is wide open it's all based on preference who do you want to put in that slot now i know what the numbers look like right now roman dunzae json ibuca i mean you could you can you can it's interchangeable because it's so early in the season but the cream cd where where you put in cd he coming he coming he coming

all coming. I can't. It's, hey, is that your, is that your Wi-Fi messing up with mine? I don't know.

Mine, my Wi-Fi? What's going on? Hey, what are you on? Dial-up over there? No, we got the most expensive. Hey, you need to fix it.

I know, because mine would just, mine would just, well, let me, you know what, I'll cut my phone on. And you got, you got that Wi-Fi.

Like Joe, like Joe Johnson. Okay. It's already open. Yeah, go ahead and check that. Hey, I'm going to do some push-ups real quick. I mean, we don't play, we don't pay $25 for extra. Where you at?

We're using the complimentary that while. You did the upgrade? I wonder what it was because it said my wife. Huh? Yeah, we used to upgrade the Wi-Fi. Yes. Okay. You might have to go to the business center, you know,

because they got, like we did, we end up. Ooh, woo. Hey, uh, but, uh. Hey, hey, you see how big, you see how big got I got? Nobody. Hey, you're going to me to the NBA Young Boy Show?

No. Hey, I don't think that's a wise decision by you. You heard me? What? It's not a wise decision for you not to go with me to the NBA Young Boy Show. Why not? Because I'm going to beat you up. God, man, and, you know, whatever you're going to have, whatever's going to be, it's going to be.

Yeah, well, I'm just letting you know ahead of time you're going to be on the show with a black eye. Hey, I bought your outfit, too. Look, hold on. Let me show your outfit. Okay. You can see it. You can wear some Mike Myers out there? Yeah.

I bought you some black Carhart overalls. And because you got muscles. Oh, man. Hey, you hit me? because you've got muscles. You don't need no shirt underneath and we're going to put the lime green bandana around your neck and I'm going to give you a scully.

I don't know, Ojo. Hey, it's okay. I think I'm going to have to pass, Ojo. Yeah, you know, you're going to pass out. Your ass don't come to the goddamn show with me. I know that. Go ahead, Ojo. I just think at this time right now for the main of 2025,

you know, my probation, I've been, you know, I check in with my parole law all the time. I'm on. Hey, boy, oh, hey, that Wi-Fi over there, choppy, boy. Oh, you couldn't hear me? Nah, it's going in and out.

Oh. because I'm not on. Hey, hey, a chat. So anyway, I got tickets for me and Unk. We're going to the NBA Young Boy Show. I got him some Carhart overalls. He real buffed, so I got him like a 2X, and he don't have to wear no shirt.

He don't have to wear no shirt. I got the lime green bandana, right? He's going to put the lime green bandana underneath. And so on the way to the concert, I'm going to put on some NBA young boy music so he can get acclimated to what it's going to be like in the arena now we're going to be in the front row

with all the Y-Ns right but I got onto security because he got bad hips he got bad hips right so I'm going to make sure you all right the security going to stand in between him so he don't fall over because you know everybody be going crazy you know in the front

boom we're going to be all right I just want him to experience this because aunt don't live the way he should be living. Like he's alive, but he ain't living. So I'm going to get him out there to bring him back to his roots. They're bringing back home, you know, to make sure he stay grounded. And he needs something different. He needs something different in his life. I understand he want to go to church.

He can bring his Bible. He can bring his Bible to the show. Matter of fact, we can have a prayer with a young boy and the whole group. He can lead the prayer before the show. So you're knocking out two birds Oh yeah You want to be You want to be Godlike

And you can have some fun And get turned up With the young With the white hands And that's what we're going to do And I just need I just need to get him out the house Get him out of the house, man

Lift his spirits up a little bit That's it But what's that? It's a baby bread Huh? It's scripture It's scripture for the day Well get me

Read me a script. Read me a scripture real quick. Read me a scripture real quick. Second, the remaining teachable in God. After Cat learned she was pregnant, she dropped out of high school there for her daughter. 15 years later, Cat was a working mother up three

who dreamed of becoming a licensed beautician. With humility and tenacity, she became a student again. A free GED support program. It was humbling to go back to school after so long. teaching was amazing and offering me so much encouragement. Remaining teachable may be one of the most difficult things we can do. The Bible speaks of having teaching that opens God's wisdom. Of two women calling out passers, wisdom and folly.

Those who listened wisdom received correction with grace. They added their learning and became even wiser. They blatantly walked the right insight. to seat themselves at wisdom's table for instructions. Their obedience lead to full life. In contrast to those who listened to Folly, hate became corrected or criticized. Man, what the hell you're talking about, man?

What was that? What was that? Nadia LeBred, it's scripted. Every more, I take this. Where about I go on, Cho? Let me show you. I'm going. It's a daily bread.

It's a daily prayer. Hey, I want you to work on this. I want you to work on this after the show. You heard me? Hey, chat. A uncle, oh, uncle, he's gone. I got to make We got to get ready for that NBA young boy concert

Put on that all black Hey what happened if I play his music chat If I play his music on here Will we get in trouble? Oh we can't Okay hold on hold on hold on Hey, this is Matt Jones. And this is NFL cover zero.

We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? It looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my.

So that was my other big Colts take away. They sold that? Yes. Might want to go back to the... At the Colts Stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well.

Smart for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is Sprott.

I wouldn't fight him. I would. Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. in hand. I do not leave home without this. So. The tugboat sank. The tugboat sank 20 miles

off the coast of Nigeria, turning upside down as it fell to the sea floor. Eleven crew members drowned, but the ships cook. Harrison O'Keen found an air pocket and waited. He had only one bottle of coat and provisioned. Both of a flashlight died within 24 hours.

Through three terrifying days, O'Keen was trapped alone in the darkness at the bottom of the ocean. He begun to give up hope when divers on a mission to recover dead bodies found him hunkered and shivering in the deep hole. The image of O'Kine alone in the dark for 60 hours is unnerving, he told reporters, he still suffers nightmares from the horrifying ordeal. But can you imagine what it felt like when he saw those divers powerful lamp piercing the dark? what joy and elation what hope the prophet Isaiah foretold how

when the Messiah came all the people walking in darkness would see the great light left to our own devices we live in a land of deep darkness but in Jesus a light has drawn Ocho you see that Ocho? That's where your boy is right now

huh I want you to practice this right here it's all you gotta do yeah I only do that for the Lord like if you're hit depending on how your hips feel I only do that for the oh Joe that's how I am when I'm up in church hey I'm I'm gonna help you with your moves before we go you heard me yeah we're gonna be in all black we're gonna be in all black like this. Nah.

Mm-mm. And you got to lay on the flow. You got to lay on the flow like this. Nah, man, I ain't lay on no flow. You just feet up. I'm telling you, hey, you're going to love this, though. No. You're going to love this.

Mm-mm. Hey, front row. Boy, you know how much in front row tickets cost me? You're talking about, no. You know how much the front-road tickets cost me? And I got you a private charter, too, with security and a driver from the airport. Oh, Cho, oh, Joe. Come on, nah.

It's too late. I didn't pay for it. I didn't pay for it. Hey, you can bring, you can bring that with you. Oh, I'm trying to get my wings, Ocho. All I think about is a little baby, lying in a manger on Christmas morning. Yeah. Hey, that's what, hey, that's what.

That's what his music is like. Listen to NBA young boy will give you some wings. No. Did you listen to the song Rebel's kick it? Is it better now? Ocho, Justin Jefferson would ask how he feels about the consistency and uncertainty at quarterback position

during his career. This is what he had to say. All right. You know, to be honest, that's kind of been my whole entire career since I've been here. So, you know, it's just not really flinching on that type of deal. And that's something that I can't really control. So the only thing that I can't control is going out there and catching the ball and, you know,

winning on my routes and making sure that I'm open for the quarterback to see. So it really doesn't matter who's out there throwing the ball. And I'm always, I always have confidence in myself and the person throwing the ball that, you know, we're going to make something shake. So it's been difficult, you know, just trying to connect with the one quarterback and, you know, getting that relationship. But at the end of the day, my job is to go out there and catch the ball and be an open target for my quarterback. I don't like that answer.

What you wanted to say? I don't like that answer. I don't like that pollinator incorrect bullshit. He just said. I want you to say, I want you to say, look at my numbers. Look at my numbers. Even with the quarterback carousel, look at what I've been able to do. I don't care of what was Mother Teresa at quarterback.

When I'm out, I'm going to be open. And I'm going to catch whatever you throw as long as you put it in the vicinity. I've been doing this since LSU. I'm from the boo. Kiddiness about who had quarterback for me? What you're talking about, man? Well, that's what he's, that's basically what he said. I'm Justin Jefferson.

I don't like the way he said it. I need you to talk that talk. I need you to walk that walk. I mean, he should have gritty during the interview. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. See, I hate, man.

Hey, JJ, don't you ever answer that like that no more. Man, talk your talk, man. Man, one of the best, one of the best four five-year spans we've ever seen. You're on a historic pace. You want a historic pace. Talk that talk, boy. What you talk about? You're from the boot.

LSU's finest. New Orleans finest. What's you talk about it? You better second line your ass in the end zone next time you scope. Second line. Talk about man. I mean, it's a good political, correct ass. I ain't trying to hear that shit.

Do you talk about, man? Hey, hey, um, ever since I put this all black on, I'm feeling real, like, I'm feeling real dangerous right now, boy. I'm feeling real dangerous. Mm-hmm. I'm feeling like when the Y ends right now, um. Right now, I'm feeling like, I'm feeling like an o'em, an old man.

Don't worry about it. Christ is the light of the world. In him, we need never again fear darkness, for he have light of life. We may feel trapped or hopeless, alone and in despair. But God illuminates good news. Jesus carries out of some darkness and into his marvelous light.

Ocho. Yo. What's happening? That's all I'm saying, Ocho. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm doing the right thing, Ocho. Yeah. And the right, the right thing, the right thing to do. Like, I know you, listen, I know you're trying to walk.

I know you're trying to walk by faith. I know you're trying to do the right thing. I know you're trying to go in, in the right direction. But listen, you got to have a healthy balance. You got to have a healthy balance with that. did have a healthy balance. Listen, you could go on that path you want to go on after the concert.

No, no, no. After the concert. I don't have started the journey, Ocho. Hey, with that journey going to end real fast, you don't go to this concert. And I'm telling you, I'm going to jump on you like a chicken on the June bug, right? Don't you let me live, man.

Let me walk in the straight and narrow. After the concert. Jackson Dart was asked if he had a chip on his shoulder playing against the saint, a team that could have taken in with the knife picking the draft. Dart said, I think there's always a chip on your shoulder anytime something like that happens. I thought my visit with them went good. So you kind of have thoughts in your head in the draft, what options are really realistic? And I definitely felt that that was a place that I could have panned out.

but things didn't work out that way. He should be thankful. Right. He didn't go there. Look, the money. Okay, what your top, you know, top 10 pick, you know, the money. I get it. But come on, bro.

If you make it in New, if you make it in New York, do you understand what you can become? Boy, you'll be, listen. You win in New York Look at the people that went in New York Look at Jeter Look at Strahan Look at Elyne.

Can you imagine If Aaron Judge would have win a world series? I give you an example. L.T. Legend. Reggie Jackson. You'll never have to pay for anything ever again. Whoa.

You'll never have to pay for anything ever again in that city, boy. Well, I think, Ocho, I think, like, when you go around on these visits and, you know, you, you know, you're highly rated and you're like, yeah, man. And, you know, and look, what they're supposed to tell you? They're going to tell you, yeah, ain't nobody tell you, no, if you're available, we're not going to take you. And they're probably, they probably, you know, hey, if you're there, we're going to take you. so you know obviously you know that didn't happen i think i think he ended up in a great spot he gets an opportunity to play he played well sunday each week hopefully he gets better he grows and he gets better at playing the position he learns the offense even better the guy

steps up for him and play really well but yep but it's just it's natural it's natural also we was talking about it when we first started this chat about all the that didn't wanted, we didn't want to deal with us when we weren't who we were now. Right. So yeah, you got a chip on your shoulder. Oh, you ain't think, you don't think I'm good enough. So say, y'all don't think I'm good enough to beat y'all quarterback. Right.

Lamar said, look, you know, when time asked him with him, when time we went to the network, he's like, hey, you can see the hurt on his face. Like, hey, they're going to get my bed. They're going to get a Super Bowl out of me. Now, he's got them two MVP's. but you know he plays like all y'all that passed over me right i got something for y'all every time it should that's that's just the way it is it's natural it's a natural feeling when you get passed over by the job oh cho oh y'all don't think i'm good enough okay

yeah sometimes it's a good thing huh sometimes it's a good thing to get passed over and have that chip on your shoulder to prove those who pass over you wrong also proving yourself right. That's what you want to do. Go back and read the store how Sam Walton, how he's, Walmart. Oh, yeah. He bought the company,

this company, he ran the company, built it back up, asked him to sell it to him, they wouldn't. So he said, you know what I do? I'm going to start my own. Put him out of business. Yeah. Now look at it. Yeah. I mean, you're going to look at it. I mean, the one that owns the Broncos worth like $120 billion, got a sister worth $115 billion,

another one worth $111 billion. Yeah. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL cover zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective.

a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? It looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts take away. They sold that?

Yes. Might want to go back to the... At the Colts Stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. Spark for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it.

We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73. He is a young 73. He is Sprott. I wouldn't fight him. I would.

Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Yeah. My goodness. Garrett Wilson was asked what he'd say to the people out there wondering why he decided to extend with the Jets and not go somewhere else. I got to go home at night. Feel good about the decision I make and love. And I love it here, man. These people have brought me into, have brought into me since I was a college kid.

And this fan base that drove me, have dove into me. This is where I want to be. This is where I want to win at. For me, it's about where you do it at. What role did you play in that? And I truly believe because that's the thing that guys have been around here, have gone through these last few years. And what we're battling to get out of it, it makes it that much more beautiful.

I don't ever want to lose sight, lose that, or lose face. I like it. And in his decision also to stay is I'm that guy. I can be that guy they need in New York. I can be the difference maker. I can be the one they can count on at the wide receiver position as wide receiver number one. I'm that guy. I show you that I can do my rookie year. Now we have a quarterback in Justin Field where I can continue building on my rookie year. I'm that guy. I'm him. Him. I like it. I like it too. I like it.

Go somewhere else and do what? Start all over again? So you turn down a hundred plus million dollars to go somewhere else in two years. Man, I ain't promised no two years. I'm going to get this money right now. I'm here. I'm comfortable.

The fans love me. Yeah. Would I love to have a quarterback that's stable and not have 15 different guys throwing to me all the day? Yes, sure. but I built a foundation here and what's to say

where I go somewhere else I mean it's not like teams that that's winning got money to play another receiver Ocho the Rams got to pay Pooka so where is he going to go to Cleveland?

Like they winning more than the Jets and he's in a right Seattle they got receivers Tampa Bay got receivers so So where is he going to go that they're winning that's going to give him the kind of money that he's making? I love what he said.

Like, hey, I want to be here. When we win, I want to be a part of the process. Hey, I'm excited. I'm excited. Shaquille Leonard, formerly known as Darius Leonard. Shekel Leonard is returning to Indianapolis. The three-time first team all-pro linebacker and 2018 defensive rookie of the year will attend the Sunday's game against the Raiders at Lucas Oil Stadium to make the retirement official. Sadly, Shaq suffered from two back surgeries in the span of five months in 2022.

The surgeries were meant to correct nerve issue in Leonard's back, but he was never able to return to all-pro form, Mojo. and surprising draft pick coming out of South Carolina State Leonard took the league by storm South Carolina State long oh man produced four Hall of Famers Marion Motley

Deacon Jones Harry Carson Donnie Shell despite a short career where do you think Darry's Leonard ranked as the greatest defensive players Darry will come out of the HBCU

wow oh we got some because you got to think about A lot of the guys, Ocho, in the beginning, that's where they came out of with black colleges. Yeah, yeah. So you got, obviously the ones they mentioned, what's the guy, the linebacker from Sugar Bear? From Kansas City Treat, Kansas City Chiefs,

he went to Maryland Eastern Shore. I mean, you got, Ed, Too Tall, Jones with the Tennessee State. I think Tombstone Jackson. Man, he was a piece phenomenal. I really, the only time I ever saw him play in college, he played against Clemson. And he was all over the feet.

Yeah, I think he had like 20 tackles against Clemson. And you're like, okay, this kid can play. Because if you can do that, look, you're vastly, you know, They got, Clemson has superior athletes and Harry is all over the field because if you, if you go to a, let's just say you go to an HBCU or FBS team like that, when they cut the film on,

you got to stand out. Oh yeah, absolutely. So they cut the film on and they're looking at somebody else. They're like, well, damn, who is that kid? Who is? Yeah. Damn, he made another tackle. I mean, in the third quarter, he got 17.

team tackles. Do you understand, Ocho, how good you have to be to leave it, to go from an, in today's game, go for an HBCU, when they got, think about how much money they put into these programs now, the NIL money that they got and all the money that they throw out of these kids

and all these coaches that they got for an HBCU kid to get drafted, to make a team? Do you know how special you've got to be? Yeah. Darren's Lennel was phenomenal. And it's very unfortunate that his career got cut short because of that back injury. You know, a lot of times, you know, sometimes guys have back surgery.

They get to return to normal. But sometimes they go in that back, Ocho, and the guy's never the same. Never the same. You don't know. You don't know. But for a five or six-year stretch, he was as good. their words in the NFL. I mean, you're talking about a guy,

a three-time first team, all-pro, defensive rookie of the year, multiple-time pro-bow player. He was phenomenal. It was nice. That back injury robbed him. How long did Luke Keekly play? I think Keekly played like seven, eight years.

Okay. So, yeah, similar. Keeckley was defensive player of the year, defensive rookie of the year, probably like a five-time first. four or five time first team all pro, seven time pro bowl. Yeah, he's phenomenal.

And that's dope. But call him the career. Rookie right hand to Cam Schittler? Schistler. How do you say that last name, Ash? Schlittler. Struck out 12 in eight dominant innings if the New York Yankees

beat their Boston Red Sox. Yes. Four nothing. nothing tonight to win the ALCS Wild Car Series into the deciding third game. Taking his place in the Yankees Red Sockery Lur, the 24-year-old pitched the Yankees to into the Best Defied Division against Toronto

beginning Saturday. Yankees manager Aaron Boone said, A Star is born tonight. He's a special kid. Bro. Sometimes, you know, in a rivalry, like Red Sox, think about it, Red Sox Yankees. Duke, North Carolina, Alabama, Auburn, you know,

there are certain rivalries where the guy rise to the occasion and you'll never forget it. You'll never, you'll never, you'll never, you'll never, never, ever forget. Right. This kid right here, what he did tonight, 12 innings, and a winner take-all against your most hated, one of the most bitter rivals in all the sports. Now, you can play Yankees,

You can say Yankees, Red Sox, Duke, Carolina, Alabama, Auburn, Raven Steelers. Yeah. But if you look, the Packers Bears, but if you're talking about history and how far this thing goes back, because you got the babe leaving the Red Sox going to the Yankees. They're in the same division, the L East. They hate each other. They despise each other. You know the one thing.

I don't like about when the Red Sox play the Yankees. Each game take 12 hours. Baseball take 12 hours. Hey, for some reason, the game is so long when those two play each other specifically. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. But that kid was dealing the night.

There you was. Hey, man. Boy, can you, boy, if Aaron Judge would win a World Series? Hey, hey, what's my young bull, my young bull that played for the Marlins that's there to, um... Give them? No, he hit home runs. Oh, Jay and Carlos. Giancarlo Sten, yeah.

Get him, boy, nice, man. Every time I think about me not sticking with baseball, man. You made the right, you made the right decision. You remember, I told you, I told you the story, huh? No, but tell us again. You know, in high school, you know, I played football. I couldn't play soccer because soccer and football was doing the same time. So my grandma told me, listen, baby, if you think about doing something long term

and taking it serious at a professional level, you got to pick and choose. It is going to be soccer, which I didn't have the resource at the time to take it to the next level. So he's like, well, football got to be your thing. So I took up another sport and that was baseball. So as a baseball player, we had scouts coming out to watch me pitch. They watched me hit. I was a good slugger. I played in outfield.

I played third base. Play first. I played shortstop. So they considered me, you know, an elite talent at that time because I could do everything. I could do it all. Yeah, I was a five-tooler. I was a five-tube.

So the Marlins came out there and they tried to draft me. I was only a sophomore in high school. I never forget, 1992. 192. So the Marlins was watching me. So by the time I graduated, right, when I graduated, like, I was supposed to be part of the Marlins in the minor league. And I would have been part of that 1997 World Series team that won.

And my uncle, my uncle was on that team, Charles Johnson. He was the catcher at the time. But I chose to play football. Interesting. And that's when I went to Langston. So I went to Langston when I really could have been on the Marlins roster. Yeah, they say you were the 5-2. Mop, Broome, Lime, Lawn, Edger, Rake.

No, no, no, no. I would really that boy in high school, I'm telling you. Baseball? Hey, baseball? I had four pitches. I had four pitches that was money. Curve ball, two-finger fastball. I had a slide out of this world.

You hear me? I had a knuckle ball. Hey, when I throw my knuckle ball, it goes like this. And it dropped. Boom. I had an unbelievable. knuckleball, boy. That's kind of what most knuckle balls do.

But, okay, I like that. So you had a two-scene fast ball, not a four-scene, okay. No, two-same, yeah, two-sim, just like this. That's how I throw it. Just like that. I hold it just like that. And then I had another pitch. I had another pitch.

Cut fastball? My grandma. No, I wouldn't go cut fastball. Slurve? No, I nicknamed it. I call it the, oh, hell, no. Yeah, because when I throw it, when I throw it, When I throw it, and it hit the catch of mitt,

the catcher me like, damn, oh, hell, no. Yeah, hey, I throw about a hundred and two, huh? 102. Hey, that old hell now pitch, any, anytime I get in the jam, anytime I get in the jam, you know, the count three, three and two, base is loaded, I go to that old hell now. Well, you should have stayed with that. The San Diego Padres lost 3-1 to the Chicago Cubs in game 3

and the wild cards and was eliminated from the playoffs. In the top of the night, home play umpire, DJ Rayburn called Exander Bogart's out on strikes and what should have been called ball for. The Padres weren't happy with the umpying crew and made sure they knew about it as they left the field. Ocho, take a look at this video. Yeah, let me see that thing. Let me see that thing.

Damn. Oh, whoa, whoa. Oh, those players, those are the players? Yeah, going after the umpire. Oh, man, what's it called? Rob Manfred going to put some, going to put something to you all. Yeah, listen, he's going to, he going to drop that gavel.

He's going to drop that hammer now. Drop that hammer. But listen, whatever, whatever he does come up with, as consequences, it's not going to go into effect until next year. I'm okay. Hey, okay, that's a suspended sentence. You don't got to serve until next year. You still got to go.

You still got to pay that fine. Yeah, something. Because you can't have that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I get it, Ocho. I mean, I don't know, I don't know if I've ever been a part of something so egregious. That would, you know, I hated to look. lose. But to lose just something so egregious, you know, you're like, give a prime example.

You remember the Rams and the Saints when the guy from the Saints interfered with the guy, Ram, what was his last name, Williams? I mean, that was that was so egregious. That was so egregious. Yeah. No. Yes. Now, you know, had I been, if I'd have been, yes, I'd I would have been livid as Sean Payton was. And I can just imagine being a player because you robbed the team of an opportunity to get to the Super Bowl. So you're absolutely right.

I mean, I don't even know. That wasn't even close. He didn't even look and hit the guy way before the ball got there. I don't know what the ball. I don't know what the real. Hey, but. You know, it's situations like that.

It's plays like that, that also make people believe the game is rigged. Yes, you're absolutely right. And that's the thing. You and I know we play the game. We know it's not read, but people see egregious plays like that. Played like that with no call.

You're absolutely right, Ocho. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. You don't make it no better. All right, Ocho, it's time for our final signal on the evening. And it's time for Q and A. Hey, tell me what pitch you want. Throw me a cut fastball.

Cut fastball? All right. Man, how much lifetime you think you got? I got eight seconds. Why that's 25 seconds, man? You know I got to take my time, man. You stole second, third and home on you. Not really, because I checked second base.

You ain't looked back. I ain't seen you look. I look back. You ain't seen me look back? I saw you step off the bag and balk. That's what I did see you do. Jason Zeldorf said what Rex Ryan said about Sanders is 100% right. It's easy for him to run his mouth on the bench when there is an NFL defense coming

for your head he hasn't proven a deep thing yet pro football has a way of humbling you up well he didn't went through the humbling stage already whatever he didn't went to that part already so listen i'm gonna talk my trash until i get in there and all i got to do is back it up and when it comes to backing it up it's something i've been doing all my life playing football that's it you know what let me ask your question ocho Did it seem like because Rex, look, I'm surprised because Rex was the DC when time was on the team at the Raiders. I mean, at the Raiders, for him to say, sit in the front row,

it almost seems like he's speaking from like somebody told him that he doesn't sit in the front row. Doesn't it seem like that? Because, I mean, I wouldn't, how would you know where somebody sit? How would you know how does he know he's not sitting in the front row? He probably does. Every quarterback sits in the front row on. I don't even know why he said that. He would just talking.

He was just yapping. But that's what I'm saying. It seems like, man, I mean, he's talking like somebody. Because you know how people talk. Mocho, coaches, you know how people talk, Coacho. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So I just wanted to get a chance.

That's all. That's all. But, you know, I think the thing is that when you say you can do something and you haven't done it yet, you put a lot of pressure. You put a lot of pressure on yourself. I like it. Because that's why you've got to believe in yourself. Yes.

You got to believe in yourself. When you believe in yourself, you talk like that. Now, all you got to do, when you talk like that, you got to walk it. Bingo. Wolf had facts at Ocho, I'll be in your jersey at Game Sunday, even though my team don't play in Cincinnati until December. Hope you can sign it. Hey, hold on.

Let me show you something. Let me show you my jersey. Hold on. What jersey this man got? Hey, oh, hey, remember the leaping tiger? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got me a T. Higgins was made. Oh, so, oh, I thought that's the jersey they're going to play it.

Man, I thought you. Nah, this is the jersey from the 80s, but I put T. Higgins on you. Yeah. Yeah. And we, and we're going to beat the line. That didn't happen. Uh, JJ said, I like that he went for it,

but I don't like the play that he called. I do too. I mean, look, if he throws a pay, look, unless he got it on fourth down, everybody was going to be excited. If he throws it, it doesn't get it, they say, why don't you run Kyra Williams?

You run it with Kyron Williams, and he doesn't get you, say, man, but your guy got damn there 400 yards. You got Pooka and the Tukua, you got Devonte Adams, and you got Atwell. And you can't get, one you know what i would do i'm not sean mcvay i'm not the officer coordinator but what i would

have done is whoever the titan was at that time i'm going with the quick play action fake and make them think i'm giving it to the carin williams and i'm gonna dump it right over remember that played tim tibo ran when it was that yeah jump past we yeah i would do i would did something like that through everybody off. Timothy Humphrey, if the Rams kicker had made the extra point, we're not even talking about the last play call. Hell, if that was the case, what about

all those kicks that he missed the previous week? You remember how many did the Eagles block? Paul Third said, be real, the Rams one and two bad teams. one and two bad teams lost in Philly, almost lost to the Colts,

are the Rams getting overhyped. No, I think the Rams are a really good team. I really do. Very good team. They're not overhyped at all. Absolutely not. But you got to realize, I mean, the margin of error is really small in the NFL.

This ain't college football where teams be beating teams by 14 and 21. Nah, the margin of error is really small. And it's the little fine thing, you know, a block putt, a block field goal. or miss this or miss that is the difference of the ball game. And you know what's so funny, when you talk about the difference

in the ball game, a lot of people probably won't realize but they break it down for us. Coaches say it all the time. Let's say you have a game where you run 80 plays. Out of those 80 plays, you know, it's only two or three plays that make a difference in the ball game. Two or three plays. And it's so funny how Marvin would bring us in

and break it down and show us how many plays we run and then break down the three plays that actually made a difference in the ball game completely. and it is crazy and your car said facts up ain't no one want to see bingles on Thursday night football and don't

whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa simmer down because y'all wouldn't have this energy right now if Joe Burrow was healthy and have the same energy your side throng up your own coach Mike Shanahan said don't let Purdy out of the building and Matt Jones is a statue in the pocket okay he's athletic enough

you have like a black You make it seem like he, Jalen Hurts or Josh Allen or Lamar. Come on, bro. The hell you're talking about. Tighten up, tight up, Jit. You don't see me with this all black on? Little Pete 29 said, what's up other note you'll love to show? Rank these groups, temptations, Isley brothers, OJ's, and the Dales.

Woo-hoo-hoo. What do you know about the Dells, boy? Isley Brothers for me. First? Yeah. Over the temptations? Over the OJs and the Dells. I would go Isles.

It's a toss-up between the temptations than the OJs. Listen, I'm going with the temptations first. Absolutely. Tim Temptations first. Listen, stay with me real quick. Now, this is my era. This is my error. Now, he got me hyped up.

He got me hyped up with this question. I'm going with the temptations first. I got the Isley second, I got the OJ's third, and I got the Dells four. OJ, uh, Isleys are one. No, sir. No, sir. That's not even your music.

You don't even listen to that. I listen to that. That's my music. First of all, I know the Isle's one. Now, Trill Brown said, in your prime, what team in today's game would have, uh, give you the best advantage? When they throwed to the tight end

now, all of them would have gave me an advantage, Jocho. Everybody used the tight end now. Absolutely. Because all these guys are athletic. And what, look, the only difference between when I played and now,

there are more guys to do it. They're only a handful of guys that were in the 90s. They're only a handful of guys can do it. You had maybe three, four guys. Tops. That was a legit receiving thread at the tight end position. Now, now? Right.

You got 10, 15 of these guys. Game is changed. They throw the ball. I'm not saying tight-d-d-ins couldn't catch back then, but wasn't nobody designing no play. Really designed no plays. You really had to stand out to get plays called for you at the tight-end position.

Right. Man, I see these guys like, they throw the ball to him. Woo. 97 said, here we go again. Cut one, trade one. Antonio Brown

Calvin Johnson Tio What you got Oh you got two guys You got O you got A B from Miami You got Megatron And you got Tio I thought they asked you to do that

Not me He didn't ask me He said you I already I already know where you going I bet you I bet you I bet you I know where you going Wait cut cut trade wave got megatron a b t o what was the first one calvin johnson not the name i'm saying

the um the scenario cut one trade one well damn you get rid of all of them i thought you got to keep one All right, I'm going to keep, I'm going to keep, T.O. Trade A.B. I'm cutting Megatron. I know you're going to do that. I do it. Yeah. Hey, y'all better stop asking me. Hey, I don't care who it is. If it's A.B, it could have been A.B., Randy Moss and Jerry Rice.

He ain't cutting A.B. He ain't cut nobody. So. You know, you know, Tio, that's my dog. I know. I know you. I, that's what I said. I already know what you're going to do. Cooper de Jong. Eagles putting BTA on your team Sunday.

Ain't happening. We're going to win that game, Moucho. What game? Broncos against the Eagles. Hey, boy. Hey, yo, well, made me laugh. Matter of fact, AJ Brown probably going to get past her team.

Oh, no, yeah. You know that ain't happening. Am I going to get 13 150, man? Detons said, Anganocho, does the NFL have a poor lazy coaching or does it come down to politics? We see so many players go to other situations and prosper. Why do these coaches, franchise, give up on players so quickly? Because.

Well, it's really not the franchises. It's a system in which they go to. That's all it is. That's all it is. Look at goddamn Baker-Mafield, Cleveland. Hello? Look at Sam Donald, New York. look at sand dollar in minnesota hello hell look at daniel jones prime example

new york the indianapolis man playing out his goddamn mind man cause bro it's too much money at stake they're not letting you develop not when i got to pay you 300 million at the end of three years i'm not and brady just talked about this he just talked about that not giving players time to develop because of the investment that you have to put into them after year three. Reggie Brown said, oh, can you imagine Kyle with an elite quarterback, Matt Ryan MVP? Yes. Yes.

Matt Ryan was a statue. Matt Ryan got to a Super Bowl. Had a 283 lead. Yeah. Running the ball. Buzz light. year 12 says if you could go back and play baseball instead of if you can go back and play baseball instead what position and what team would you want to play for yankees also let me

get your world series predictions for this million dollar parlay i'm about to hit oh i play for the yankees and play a right field that was i'm throwing the ball from right field i got a cannon i can throw the ball i can throw the ball from right field the home plate ball never going to hit the ground on the cannon you got to go ahead the ground you know that pitch you say you got ah hell no yeah no no you ain't you ain't you ain't got I know, you ain't got no, you ain't got no, you ain't got no home like that. Man, all the rocks I threw over top of them big ass pine trees. Hell no.

Man, look, don't take my parlay because I bet I go with my heart. Yankees Dodgers. I'm taking the Yankees. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. He said, oh, I had a similar injury to you. a big bro, big bro third, for herniated disc in the cervical C2 through C6 at the same age he was. My question to you is how's he doing and how does it affect him day to day at the age he is now?

He's fine. I mean, he played golf. I mean, so he don't do anything other than that. Now, right now he's down nine because he had another surgery for his retina, had another eye surgery. But he's fine. He hadn't had any problems. I mean, he had a hip replaced.

Oh, he's about to get his knee replaced. So he's about to get his knee replaced in the next six months. But no, he got around fine. No, he didn't have any ill effects. No problem. He never complained about anything. I don't know. They took a bone out of his hip and fused it.

And so obviously, you know, he doesn't have, he can't, you know, whip his neck around like that. But no, he finds. Uh, P.m. Four said, do you think Rod Smeasy Smith took away from you with John's chemistry? Nah, hell, nah. Now, look, it's only a certain amount. Look, you only get so many years is being number one. Look at Jerry. Young guys come. They're going to eat. You know how they're going to be. They're going to eat. You know how they're going to be. You got to move out of the way. I was happy because I knew how hard he worked to get in that position and I knew you know look I'm going to do what I do but nah hell now Rob was it was ready and hell and hell when I got up the way and went to a Baltimore not look at it 100 catch back to back season 1600 yards

all first team all pro nah nah nah nah hell no Rob was Rob was ready to do his thing. Aaron Jones said, oh, we have a different OC every year. How can it get solved when the system changes every year? Petula has been bad, but it's only four games.

Yes? I mean, it's pretty much the same system because he was up under, you know, the guy. Now, I don't know because Kellen Moore's system was different than Stiking. You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah, that's what happens when you're good teams come steal your coaches team comes steal your players that's what happens you want that i mean yeah that means you have a really good coaching staff and that means you have really good players he's lost uh in the last what three years four years, he's lost two OCs and a D.C. Yeah, that's what happens. When you're good, people come steal your players. Dagnati Cobbins, some families function better with a little dysfunction. Fly Eagles fly. Maybe you're right.

Like that. Beard game 268 said, oh, you always say never accept anything in a win. You wouldn't have lost. Why should A.J. Brown accept lackluster passing game. but because that's how their offense is set up. They're not equipped. See, you're asking them to be something that they're not.

Ocho, can you tell them they're not going to let Jalen Hurst throw that ball 35, 40 times a game? Unless they have to. And both of the times, the only way they have to is if they're behind in the game. And how often are they behind?

Not very often. They were behind. They were behind. The Rams. Yeah. If that was the game, AJ went off. We're crazy. So, bag on hands on, oh, Joe, if you flew to Cincinnati to give that Sart team a pep talk,

you have too much disposable income. Don't waste your money when you owe $5,900. I agree. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I used that $5900 for the NBA young boy ticket. I didn't ask for that. Oh, hey, I know you didn't, but God told me to get him. God told me to get them

Guys, they take that money Take that money and pay up It's too late I'm gonna see you October 13th in Miami Hey matter of fact Guess who just text me Top Who?

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you got to get hip man you got to get hip that's gonna pass me by what he is now Samuel LeGrand said Unk Wifi is cooked like Ocho had Ocho Satellite like Tio crying about his quarterback Rashad Vaughn said

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fames fames oh timbs oh tims I might have to send y'all some night quill between Ocho's voice unc sniff it every time he makes a point something must be going around that's my that's my signature you know what I get That's my tail. When I know how to hit that out of dread that point home.

Yeah. That might be. Shotty T. They said, Unk. Got that southern home Wi-Fi. Y'all, I don't know what happened.

That's the first time it's really happened like this here. I don't know what's going on. Maybe everybody else on their Wi-Fi tonight. DC Alex 24. Come on, Unk. And Ocho. Y'all know Lamb is top three. Three-time.

All-Pro back-to-back and that's with Dak being hurt in 24. I mean, look, I think Chase and Jetta are to talk to. Now we start, I mean, you know, Amit Ross St. Brown, before Tyree got hurt,

AJ, CD, I'm trying to think. Who are missing? Pochow. Pooka. Pooka, Nakua. Pooka. Pooka about to get paid, don't you?

We absolutely. The Pook about to get paid. Absolutely. Hey, fam. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy say, Hey, fam. Have you ever heard of Josh Gibson? I absolutely have.

Most home runs, over 800 home runs in the Negro League. Satchel Page, two of the most absolute best baseball players in history. You're absolutely right. I think Satchel Paige pitched the game at 59. because, you know, before, you know, they were old, Ocho, before they, you know, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the first black player. That was 47 when Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. And then I think. Larry Dobie was the next one. And then you started getting, you know, infiltration a little bit after that. But by that time, Ocho, them guys were, oh. Yeah. So their best years was spent in a Negro league. We didn't get their absolute, you know, the absolute best. I'm not so sure Jackie Robinson was the best player,

but he was the best player for that time because you had to swallow a lot. You had to take a lot. You had to deal with the pause. I know y'all said some bulljive, but, Ocho, you had to listen to the ends. You had to listen, you know, not being able to eat in a restaurant with your team.

There's a lot of stuff that you had to go through and everybody wasn't built like that back then. Yeah. So you have to pick and chew like, okay, because it's like when Coach Robinson said the guys, he said, look here. I think tank younger.

He said, look, you're the best we got. If you don't make it, they ain't going to come get nobody else. So in order for others to get an opportunity, Jackie had to take a lot. He had to take a lot. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us again. Y'all know who I am.

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Kairn Williams had a costly fumble, and he got stopped in overtime on 4-3-1, and that is how the 49ers went on the road on a very short week and won the game to go to 4-1, and the Rams fall to 3-and-2. We're off tomorrow, but we'll see you with Johnny Manzell on Saturday after college football. I'm Unk. He's Ocho. Thank you guys for joining us. We're out. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero.

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