Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 3: Devon Witherspoon BREAKS the BANK with Seahawks + BIG3 Playoff RECAP

Episode Date: August 16, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Devon Witherspoon reaching deal with Seahawks and the BIG 3 Playoff recap! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Jags beat Saints1:39 - Devon Witherspoon reaches agreement with Seahawks9:54 - Ocho plays in BIG3 Celebrity Game19:53 - Q & Ayy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Zach Wilson had him, self a day. He was level of 16, 145 yards of the touchdown. And Spencer Rattler was 8 of 11, 42 yards. Sacked twice. Last play of the game, the Saints. Hey, it's very interesting game. You know, they're going for the gusto. Let's try to win this game.

It was. Some people think they probably should have run the ball with one second on the clock. But I ain't got no problem with the call. I don't have no problem with it. If they had won the game, everybody had been excited and happy. they didn't win. Travis A. Chan.

He said that you guys have been mispronouncing his name. The whole row is not Travis A-T-N. It's Travis A-chan. And so now that's the way it's pronounced. Travis A-chan, not A-T-N. So that's that. But no, I thought the quarterback played well in this game. I mean, you know, Zach, your boy, Zach, Joe, Ocho, had him a day.

Have him a little, had him a nice little game. Yeah. Listen, that's what he can do. That's what he's always in. Listen, he hasn't been in great situations to be able to do that. You know, you have to think about where you got draft in that. Yeah, you're right. So, hey.

You're right about that. Okay, here's something we can sing our teeth into, three-time Pro Bowl cornerback, Devon Witherspoon, and the Seahawks have reached an agreement. Four years, $132 million, $101 million, guaranteed, making him the highest-paid corner in NFL history. Oh, Cho. Yes, sir. Spoon, reset the market.

Yes, so. Just two years ago, the grand rate for a corner was about 20 million. Yes, sir. Here we are now, two years later, it's $33 million. Damn. Gonzalez, Gonzalez up there saying, a Patriots. Yeah. Oh, he's going to reset it again.

Yes, sir. It's going to cost you $34 million. Yeah. It's getting up there, too. As difficult as a cornerback position has been. Over the years to me, a lot of people will probably disagree with me, but I think playing quarterback is the most difficult position outside of quarterback. Oh, it is.

Almost even, because you think about all these receivers, all these very talented elite receivers. You got a mirror. You have to do everything in front of them, but backwards. Yeah. You know, so Witherspoon, I mean, Witherspoon, he's definitely deserving. If you watch them, I've been watching them, you know, over the years, one of my favorite defensive backs, another, another player that I really,

really enjoy watching and play for the Detroit Detroit Lions is Brian Branch as well so these are two of my favorites that don't get mentioned enough when to come to secondaries or elite defensive back-end safety play and he's very, very worthy

of this man. I'm excited for him. I'm excited. Eagles, y'all can only play one. Quignan Mitchell or Cooper DeJon. You can only pay one. Hey. I can tell you who it's going to be. Who? I just tell you who they can

what they can do. But, Gian Mitchell, what might be top three right now. It's about man to man. I don't know who the Eagle and the defensive coordinator is, but I know one thing, yeah,

you go over there. Oh, Brother Fangio, listen, you know, I need to do me a favor. I need to hold down his left side, play man to man,

so I can worry about everything else, everywhere else. That type. Because, you know, they got Tareke Wollin. They got Wollin now, and they move Dijon to safety,

and then they're going to move Jajon to the slot, you know, come, When they bring nickel on the field. Man, that's not fair. And you got them two hogs sitting up there on the front line, too? Yeah. Man, stop playing.

So Gonzalez is going to be looking for a huge payday. He's going to looking at 34 million now. Quinion, he going to be looking at 34, 35 million. And I did get, guess who's coming back to the table? He's like, hey, you don't have to see me again. Pat? Pat. Oh, okay.

Pat. Yeah. they're probably at all of them guys good but man yeah hold on we went went went pat up though he oh he he's coming back he he he owed the second year of it oh okay yeah you know he like bro oh he's like bro i signed this 23 24 million dollar deal they're already making 20 10 million more than me oh no they're gonna come they're gonna come back to him they're he is a smooth and is gifted in a corner his technique he got a pretty technique i've ever seen on Hey, to be that.

He's effortless. To be that damn tall, huh? He tall is it. I'm not tall is, Joe. He's legit, he legit, he's a legit six three. Yeah. And legit, I ain't talking about, I ain't talking about, no, oh, no, he's six, two, he's six one. No, he legit.

He might be, boy, he's tall, tall. Yeah. I'm talking about arranging. Man, it's arm. Man, I don't walk, knuckles just bruised up. They scrubs the ground, Joe. Man. Joe, he's nice.

That technique. He's nice. Yeah. Most of the time, especially for tall corners, when you get him in space or you get them to turn their hips, you know, they get kind of awkward because they show. He can swivel. He can swivel them hips, Ocho.

Yeah, but he played corner, even though he's six-three, but he plays small. I don't know if that makes sense. You know what I mean? He's really, really, really good. Yeah, he really, yeah, he real got, yeah, his hips. He could turn and get up out of there. You know, he got four-four speed.

He play at all. He play at all. He really, really good. But I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. And I told Ocho, I told Ocho this. I said, Ocho, they're going to let a spoon go. They're going to let a, what you call on, a boat?

I mean, he's gone. Yeah. I said, why you say, man, they got, I said, Ocho, the distractions. He do too many, too many things. Bone head plays on the field. And they can't pay him. They can't pay him.

They can't. You got two guys like that? now it's like when they play those two guys, they pay those two D tackles. Now how are you going to pay two corners? Yeah. And Jaila Hertz. Now, what you're going to do with Jaila Hertz? Jaila Hurts contract up too? He's going to be looking for a payday.

Damn. Well, the Eagles window was right in that too, way. Yeah, you got to. A window was right now. But man, but, he's earned that payday. Three Pro Bowls. You saw what he did in that playoff run last year. him and Wolling, it was unbelievable.

But he's been that guy, you know, since he got in. Yeah. And with him and Wolling on one side, both of them had elite speed. That defensive front was unbelievable. And once they brought Ernest Jones in, he solidified everything. He shut everything down the road and the run, made sure everybody was where they needed to be, where they were supposed to be. They got a really, really good team.

They got another, they got another two or three years in this window right here. But spoon, $132 million. Woo! Well, how much you get, how much guarantee? 101. Oh. They probably gave,

they probably gave 50 mil and signing. They gop that boy down, didn't it? Man. Damn, boy, if y'all were born just a little later. I told my mama that. My mama had her last kid. Mama said I was done. My mom had her first kid at 17, the last one at 25.

Mama said, I'm done. Out of there. Mom would say, that's a rap. Damn. I say, see, but look at that. You had two boys. Look at there. This is matter you to have another two boys.

You might have four boys in the league. That's all right. Damn. She said, I had my back hurt with your big ass. Hey, hold up. Did y'all mama play in the sports, huh? you're my mom plays sports my dad plays for my dad out of scholarship you can go to hey you got a kid where you go right to work that's what you go ahead hey they had no n iL back back in back in

1960s back in the 60s man you know hey man barn and porter went playing that hell they ain't in i'll get you a job and pay for the kid yeah hey hey they ain't had nil in the late 90s here I thought I was going to give me some back, some back pay. They said they were going to start getting people back pay if you had been out of college for, I think, like, eight to ten years. Yeah. Yeah, I started counting here. I'm done, been out of college 20-something years, man. Yeah, exactly.

Hey, Joe, I was telling me my homeboy talking and said, man, I've been out of college 35 years. 35, we had our high school reunion. I've been out of college. I've been out of high school 40 years. It goes quick, don't it, man. Yeah, faulty. Damn. Faulta.

Mm-hmm. It's bad. Nah, hell, nah. But no, I came along with the right time. It would be a problem for me because I love winning too much. I take it too seriously. I take it too serious. Yeah.

And this goofing around and all this going to be, you know, wanting the clicks and likes and all that other stuff, now to know the hell out of me, man. Oh, man. Mm-mm. It's different now, way different. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it.

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And there's Ocho. Ocho, six points, four more, three personal files while guard and Gilling. You held Gilly to eight points. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm going to play my defense now. You locked them up. You locked them up.

Yeah, I was studying Joe. I was studying Joe, so I tried to do some of Joe moves. I missed by four shots, right? So I should have had by 16. team. Yeah. But I miss him a shot. I studied. Hey, hey, Ocho, but your mid-range was nice. I like how you came out. I like how you popped it off. You know what? You run away for something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, you know what? I'm going to score the first bucket. I'm going to pop this bag off and see which I like how you get right in this grill right after you're like, yeah, yeah, like this hip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like to see that, Ocho. I like to see that. I want to see you compete. Man, boy can't guard you out there.

But I'm going to tell you something right now. And La Reglan jump shot you got, boy. Well, you ain't scoring on me, partner. I'll just keep you to 100. I can keep you the 100. You look good, though. You look good. I could tell you something. What's up?

Like, I was just going 50%. It's a celebrity game. I'm not really, you know, trying to go out there and act like, listen, I should have been in the NBA. Now, what I'm saying you, now you get to see a different version of what you saw today. You know, I was chilling, Joe. I ain't got nothing to prove. I'm 50 years ago. Hey, hey.

Hey, how big is that huncho do? Hunter looked like he big as I don't know what I done. Hunter looked like goddamn Megatron. I ain't know you with that big, but, bro, six four, six, five. Oh, yeah. I ain't talking about, like, skinny. I'm talking about six, four, six, five,

and he's solid. I'm like, for God, leave. Hey, who, who, who, who the white boy out there get money like that? He played for Ohio State. He played, he was the hoopitter from Ohio State. Oh, yeah, I didn't know who that was, but he was bawling. Ooh. He could go, he could go, he could go.

Yeah. I stayed for the rest of the game, too. I checked them out. I said, hey, Joe. I don't know who from the Dallas, the Dallas team, his last. Stewart, who is it? What's the name? Elijah Stewart.

Man, that ninja could go, boy. I told y'all, man. You know, he got cut. They let him go because he was with the L.A. rise. He was with Dwight Howard and Joyne Crawford. And they didn't bring him back. So he had a lot to prove. He just wasn't fitting with what they had, Ocho.

So he had a lot to prove. He had a chip on his shoulder. this year. He had to be bald out. I told y'all. I told y'all that power was gonna beat them boy man. Yeah. Hey, that boy could go away. Yeah. And see him, man, for them to be that tall, Joe, and me being able to sit right there in front and see them boys move up, man. Is it dead what's you call them, what's you call to beat Chicago? The ball halls beat Chicago. I called that, unc. I told you. I don't do. Gary Payton him one. Hey, it's Barbosa? That's how you said. Yeah. Yeah.

Hey, yeah, he, he nice, boy. Hey, hey. You see, y'all see my boy, Jeremy Pargo, he won MVP at a big three. I saw that. I thought they'd go, I thought they were going to give me the Trez. I think, I think because Trez didn't play enough games, even though he averaged 30 and 11. I don't think he played enough games.

And with Pargo playing a great amount of games and taking the ball hogs to their first championship game. Yeah. I think, well, he got, he got the MVP before, you know, making it to the title game, but I just felt, man, they had a better team, bro. And if, if Trez wasn't getting 30 plus points, hell, the triplets couldn't win.

Hell, Trez didn't have nowhere in there 30 tonight. He had eight points. Come on, man. Yeah, they weren't winning with that. Dallas Power beat Miami 305, 50 to 36. The number one seed played like it, newly minted Hall of Fame of Nancy Lieberman, and her Dallas Power turned the playoffs into a rebounding clinic,

3927 in the glass, 17 of them offensive. Miami shot himself in the foot. There was 16 of 52 from the floor. Elijah Stewart poured in 20 points with 12 rebounds. Greg Monroe, 18 points, 13 rebounds. Beasley had 18 points, 10 rebounds, but nobody else answered. Lance needed 21 shots just to get 11 points. Dallas moves on.

Hey, man. Dallas beat you by committee, bro. Elijah Stewart, Greg Monroe had 18. Elijah had 20. And they got the rights dude, Joe. He's raised. He's nice. He got a nice little stuff.

Glenn Rice, Jr. Yeah. Hey, you know what it is, Ocho? He probably didn't make a whole hell of a lot of shots. He was two for 15, but he got some dog in him. You know what I mean? Meaning, he ain't going. You know, he's going to steal the plot pressure.

Defensively, he's going to fight. And offensively, he got a nice little bag. They got a complete team because they got Greg Monroe down there in the paint who going to hold it down and score. They didn't. They got guys on the perimeter who can score the ball and they play the right way. So I kind of figured they would beat 305. because it's just hard for Lance and Bees to be great every weekend.

You knew they would at some point have a weekend or where they weren't hitting on all cylinders. It was just a bad, bad time for them to be cold. Hey, them boy, they'd be getting ready to fight, Joe. Oh, Joe. This is the most physical game, bro, outside of any other basketball game. Nope, the NBA, none of that is more physical than the big three. The big three is physical, bro.

You got to play through that contact. Yeah. Yeah. Them boy, they were playing, boy. They were playing. The ball hogs beat the Chicago. triplets 50 to 47. They handed Jeremy Pargo to MVP trophy today. Then he showed the arena Y. Tied at 47. Pargo rose fade away three walked off with the triplet Deshaun Stevens. Stevens, 27 points

on 13 of 19 shooting with 11 rebounds. Barboza went perfect three for three from deep. He had 19 and Treads fought with 13 boards but was held at eight points. Chicago ran out of answers at three points shots. So that means Dallas and Boston next Saturday for everything. thing. Yeah. You did call this. You said the ball halls was going to beat the triplets. I just thought the Trebs was going to be Treads and do those numbers.

But you say, but what happens with Treads is not Treads. When he can't give you 27, he can't give you 30, he can't give you 40 points. They're going to struggle. Oh, oh, that Deshaun Stevenson and that Garland Green. Yeah. They take on Gary Payton's persona. He's a head coach. Hey, man, we can give you nothing easy.

We're going to apply pressure the whole game, and we're going to make it tough for you. That's why I say the Sean Stevenson now for him to get 27, 27 points. How many rebounds he had? 11. 11 rebounds. Come on, man. You ain't thinking that hell, that's probably a career high for him. Yeah.

You know what I mean? So he played huge. I thought Jeremy, he didn't shoot the ball well, but he made big shots, bro. Man, that shot right there. That joke was almost falling out of bounds and just elevated. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, Ocho, think about it. He, he, he'd be hanging.

with the only one, only three-time MVP to ever play in the damn big three. Hell, some of this shit got to rub off on him. Yeah, he got to get him one eight and nine there, Ocho. Hey, Joe, they, they asked me a question. The big three asked me a question. You know, I sat down and I sat down with him. Yeah.

Forsy side and they asked me, you know, ISO, is he coming back next year? And I'm like, listen, you know, when it comes to answering questions like that, I can't speak for Joe Johnson. I know what he means for the big three. I know what he could do. He got 30. his pocket anytime he can come to his injury and what his future looks like it'd be disrespectful

to me to answer for him yeah so and i i i can't have a real pc okay okay all right all right but yeah but now you come back next year you can tell us now well you know and god's willing we'll see what guy got playing for me i don't know what see god keeps surprising me oh yeah you know every time i look up you're talking about that's what i'm talking about it's gonna give us a straightforward I can't even I can't get it. Listen, I can't help it because the man don't play by me, okay? He keeps blessing me in ways. I don't even ask, Ocho. I look up a damn, another blessing. So I don't know what he got playing for me, Ocho. I'm just going with the flow and whatever happens, happens, okay? Yeah. All right. You okay over there? Yeah, I want to see it. I want to see that.

This bad here, Joe, this man, Ocho. Jack, man, y'all know Joe full of car car too, right? That man, all that man had to do, say, oh, Joe, I don't really know right now. Right now the rehab is going really well. We'll see, we got to hold. That's way next year. This man talking about, I don't know what God got in store for me. This man come out here, every time he come out here with this old Negro spiritual.

Oh, hey, oh, oh, Ray. Hey, you got them old Reverend James' Man. Hey. Oh, Lord. I'm sorry, Chad. Chat, all I'm saying to chat, he keep blessing me in ways I ain't asked for, okay?

Yes, sir. So. I know about them blessing, Joe, because every time I look up, it's another one here and another one there. That's what happened when you do right, Joe. Yeah, just keep on living, man. Keep on living. Keep on living.

You write something in Kenya, boy. Keep on living, man. Mm-hmm. Man, that joke of here, boy. Yeah, honk, you all right? Yeah, I'm all right. Next week, Dallas versus Boston. Next Saturday for everything,

season 9 championship, all-star game, next Saturday, 822 at 1 p.m. Eastern in Charlotte. Yeah. Hey. It's time for our final segment of the evening, and it's time for Q and A. Hey y'all have got me. Hey, Joe, I'm in Dallas, right?

Yeah. I went to this place last night, and I'm going. As soon as the show in, I'm going, it's called Sandega. I don't know if I said that right, San Diego. Um, and Joe, I had, I had, uh, Cambodia. Whenever I traveled somewhere, I got to find live music. Yeah. It's called San Diego.

Them people in that place, that band, I put it, I put it on my main page. They couldn't up. I seen it. I've seen it. You saw it? Yeah, I seen it on your story. No, Joe. They playing again tonight.

So I'm, as soon as we, it's only eight minutes from the hotel. As soon as we end, I'm going back over there because, though, it was so, I was in such a happy space. Yeah. But when it was playing, oh, it was so, it was so live, man. Yeah. Uncle, if you ever come to Dallas and you got to go, I know you don't, you ain't really into live music like that.

But man, that goddamn Sandega, but I'm going after this point. But that thing is now. All right. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Did we did that? We didn't really did it yet? Okay.

Roddy Hardaway said, I think Ocho had two left chunks on the day. Iso. It's going to make you look bad, a brother. Don't take it easy on you and play your cousin. Stalling my man, please. No, no.

I'm going to wash your ass, man. You're going to do what? Hey, I'm going to wash you. You heard me. The one thing you, the one thing you shouldn't let me do is you shouldn't ever gave me footage on all your movements.

You shouldn't never gave me footage. You will lock him up like you did, O'O Gilley? Yeah, I'm not only going to lock him up, I'm going to use his own stuff on him. Oh, Joe, Ocho, you're going to need some help guard me, partner. That's all I'm going to tell you. You're going to need some damn help guard me. Hold on, hold on, what you think? You're going to back me down, down in the post?

I ain't, I got face-up game, I got back-down game. I got whatever game you want. I got side-to-side game, whatever you're talking about. Hey, let me tell you something. Every day, every game you just mentioned, I got an answer for it. Okay. Got a counter for it. I seen how you was guarding guys that was a little bigger than you, how you were kind of leaning on them.

Man, they ain't going to work with me. I'm not leaning. I'm waiting to feel of pressure on them leaning back on me. I were going to pull the chair from up under him. He lost the ball. You know what I lost the ball? Okay. All right.

You look good today, Bray. I ain't going to take that from you. I ain't going to take that from you. I look good. I know, Joe. You're going to take that from you. I know. What you think I'm going to look at you?

But you're out there with them weak-haired Chuck Taylor's on. Hey, come on. Hey, Joe, let me tell you something. Hey, um, let me tell you something. If I can go out there and Chuck Taylor's that people were in the 1950s, would that tell you about my game, Joe? Huh? What did I tell you?

I don't need all that tape and all that fancy high-tech stuff. I need all that high-tech stuff. Joe, I put them chucks on and go to work, Joe. Uncle, I hit him with the big shoulder. He's going to come right out them damn chucks. They don't know. I play football, Joe. Joe, I play football.

I'm used to contact. I'm used to being, you know, going against bigger people, Joe. I'm a hold my ground. Okay, all right. I'll just tell you. I know you have some fun out there in this celebrity game, but this ain't that, partner. That's all I'm trying to team.

I don't feel no pressure, Joe. Okay. Coming in with that little day, that Carmelo shoulder, you know, to create space. Yeah, yeah. When you've got space, I'll be right back there in your face. You'll be right there. Joe, I'm not going to where?

I know how to be. No, I might be a little smaller undersized for NBA players, including yourself, but I play well through contact. Yeah. You play above your size, though. That joke. Hey, you took the words right out of my mouth.

I'm telling you, Joe. I'm going to get him, boy. Die him up, Ocho. I got him. Brailer Twitter said, Ocho, that boy, Hancho, tall as hell. He was, bro. And he was left-handed. He kept getting tipping.

I said, damn. How many rebows he had? Probably had about 20 in hell. Yeah, he was. Yeah, he had. Yeah. Hey, matter of fact, hey, speaking of right too, Uncle Joe, I'm glad we're talking- Yeah, 17 points and 20 rebounds.

Damn. Yeah, me and Key Glock, me and Keylock got a song coming out. What's gonna be the name of them? We gotta wait. Yeah, he told me not to really say anything. He said, like, about it on nightcap. I got you. Yeah, so me and Key Glock, we got a song coming out chat.

Y'all, y'all lay around for that. I see, hey, I seen Key Glock out there trying to do it one, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was doing a little son. Hey, hey, I want that way I want you to tell Kegla, make sure he keep his dribble. Stop picking up his dribble, looking around. You know what I'm saying? Keep that dribble alive. You know what I mean?

So you can keep your options open. Keep your options open. You pick your dribble up. You ain't got no more damn options. Ah, okay, okay. Yeah. Okay. Cowboys, first preseason opening win since 2017.

DJC 2587, proud member since day one when Unc used to tell the wild stories. Kig Issa, Ocho, you know, one but it don't make you no bad brother I told y'all I told you I told y'all yeah man everybody be doing they catch it on Joe you can only fool something you can only fool some of the people some of the time hey oh before before they catch on and say yeah yeah how long how long are you gonna pour a mile how long you're gonna pour a mile this thing man for real nah for real I'm just saying Joe uh uh hey Joe one thing about it man I know you don't want the world to know you don't want the world to know you don't want to chat

note, but me and unc note, but it don't make you no bad brother. You got no bad brother. You good people. Joe, just living your truth, Joe, like I do. I live in my truths. I'm not tripping. People ask me all the time. They say, man, that man, y'all got, y'all got a good with Joe.

Man, Joe, Joe, Joe, man, Joe, man, Joe, cool brother at it. I said, yeah, but, uh, you know, he only show y'all half the side. That's the, that's the problem. That's the only problem I got with it. He got the people out there thinking that me and Ocho, we don't. word people in the world and he's just like man I'll be trying to I be trying to tell him don't say that don't do that listen I'm the calm between the two storms okay y'all is storm bro I got to keep everything cope of steady

see see don't what I'm talking about right now I'm just keeping it real okay yeah hey Joe think he slick boy he do hey one thing about it but you played it you play a good game boy hey listen listen listen I don't do nothing but play my part fellas okay yeah I ain't, I don't see, I ain't see nobody. That joke, he's slicking on a greased eel. That joke, that boy, he doesn't got a fool. He don't be like this for so long. Hey, Almighty James two times, oh, you saw Filet Layla today?

Unfortunately. He's about what I'm talking about he ain't gonna be no starter. He keep playing like that. I don't know if he's gonna be on the team. Uh, J. Ron Mayfield, 5261. What's up, Ocho, ISO. I watch y'all every night at work. Keep up the good work.

Jay Ron, appreciate that, man. Appreciate that, bro. We really, really, really appreciate that. Anytime, you know, we're talking about nightcap crew, morning crew. We appreciate your eyes, ears. And your word of mouth by chiming in. Yes, sir. Who are y'all taking in, uh, John Taylor or Bobby Womack?

Johnny Taylor? You're talking about two. Disco lady Johnny Taylor. $2? Johnny Taylor? Yeah, them last $2 I'm not going to lose. Oh, man. Did you last?

No, after what Bobby Womack pool, after what Bobby Womack pulled, I can't pick him. What, what Bobby do, huh? Man, you better go ahead and read that story about Bobby Womack. Oh, oh, oh, that's still. Yeah. Well, hold on. Yeah, yeah. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

You have to be able to separate the difference between Bobby Womack, the artist, and his personal life. Because it's music. Come on, now. Yeah. I'm still taking it, John. You can't do that on your man. How you can do the man like that?

Just show up to the man, home going to their clothes. Oh, man. Oh, man. Yeah, no, I'm a big Johnny Taylor fan, bro. I'm Johnny Taylor fan. Disco lady. Move it in, moving it out.

Hey. Yeah. Bad them all we can play that man. You can go to the majority joint band. If he played Johnny Taylor loud as hell. Yep. Yep. Yep.

All right. Tony O underscore High Hilaria, 7652. Start, bench, cut, championship. Championship Kyrie, 73 and 9, Steph Curry, or triple double, Westbrook. The basketball guru, we got Ocho,

I mean, an ISO. So we got championship Kyrie Irvin. 73 and 9, Steph Curry, triple double Russell Westbrook. Damn. Woo. I'm, I got to go with the best. baby face assassin,

that little beige brother out there and, uh, go to stay. I got to go with him at one. Damn. Uh, we're starting.

So we're starting stuff. Stuff. Starting stuff. And then I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to have to let, I'm,

I'm going to let Westbrook go, man. Dang. I know. Damn. It wasn't, I mean, hell,

it wasn't no easy choice. I had to pick one. That would make you no bad brother because you let him go, though, Joe. Hey, damn. Gold standard 842 said Watson should be QB1 for the Browns all season. I don't think Sanders is ready.

He looked good. He looked good today. I ain't going to lie. Watson looked pretty damn good. So we'll see how to go. Anthony Bracken Jr., 8548, better song by Erica by Doo, Lifetime, or didn't you know? Ooh, that's a good. That lifetime.

Lifetime. Lifetime. Yes, I see. In their lifetime. Lifetime for me. What? Hold on. Hey, I'm trying to think what.

Man, see, y'all got me ride. Y'all talk about music, boy. God damn. What them people say? I don't know. I do like Lifetime, though. Yeah. But then you know hit, though, Joe.

Did you know? Did you know. Who did you know Scott? Yeah, I'm trying to think the song. Everybody like that. God, Lazzell and E-flat, a long walk,

living life like it's golden. No. Hey, Unk, I think it was he loves me. That's La Zelle and E-flat. Oh, Ung, Jesus Christ, this is why I'm so excited about tonight. The lady, they played, Oh, hey, Joe, they went eight songs in a row.

You got a drummer, you got two guitars, one guitar, a bass player, and you got the organ. Yeah. though and the lady singing she loves me they're special they played that lead different yeah they went from that joe to maize we are one to anita baker and then came back with man came back with lu oh man yeah hey that light when uh gil scott sung that lives hell to e flat or Oprah yeah

Oprah said who is this guy hey man for them people she loves me especially different every time And you know what I like to, Uncle Joe, my live music. What? When each musician, they do they solo. And they go off. Man, they, oh, man, man, the drummer went crazy. Then there was another song, you know, they played a song, and then there's a solo moment for the guitarist, and then the baby get his own solo,

you do it on the, on the keyboard, oh, man, dog. I know what you mean, Ocho, I've been there, boy. Uh, goes standard 842 said Watson proves he deserved to be QB1. I mean, it's first game, first preseason game, man. Let's let me ask you a question. Let's just say for the sake of argument. We have next week, Shador starts. And he goes 12 of 17 for 125 yards and two touchdowns.

Do you still feel like Watson deserves to be number one, the starter? Right, because he, hey, because if he had to come in and he don't play none in the first half he had to come in in their second half and get money. Yeah. We're going to see the difference. Yeah. Unfiltered sports in DMV. How long you think the Eagles past joint practice

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So you got to start one, bench, one cut one. Ocho, that's your division. Wait, hold on. Eddie George, Jerome Bettis, and who? Jamal Lewis. Oh. Oh. Hey, boy, Jamal Lewis, Cleveland was a gangster, boy.

Eddie George, Tennessee was gangster. Yeah. The bus. The bus. The bus. The bus on the bus go round and round, round and round. Yeah. Round and round.

Yeah. You don't remember bus when he was at the Rams, though. You don't remember that bus. But that's, no, no, that's St. Louis bus. No, he was L.A. It was? They was in L.A. there, Anaheim. Okay.

Damn. I'm trying to think. They left Anaheim, I think, at about 96. 95, 96. Jamal Lewis, Eddie Joyce. Hey, that's tough, huh? I know Jamal Lewis. I'm going Jamal Lewis first.

You're going to start Jamal. You'll start Jamal. I'm start Jamal Lewis. Boy, and when he was in Cleveland, I know what he did at Baltimore. That was cool. Cleveland, Jamal Lewis? Ain't nobody want to see him coming through that.

Yeah. I'm trying to think, do I go Eddie George or Jerome Venice? Go to Benis. Chad, what you think? And that's one of those who you really can't go wrong. Your boy was what you got. You're starting Jamal. Yeah.

You either got a bitch, Eddie. Yeah. man. Stop beating around the bush man. Going to give us your answer, bro? Damn. I'm going to go Eddie George. I'm going to go Eddie George. Damn.

Man, bitch in the hall. The man cut a hall of favor joke. Y'all got it good. Eddie was that boy. I got to ask. Where do you get to your material from? Wisdom Trash Talk, man. I don't get.

at the peat in contests with a skunk. You know, Buchanan and 99 greatness. Man, you know what? I was talking, we were talking about something. And people like, you know, you just, I don't know, I mean, skunks pee, they nasty you. I don't know if y'all ever seen it.

We call them pole cats. That would y'all call them, Jordan, in Arkansas? A skunk? Yeah. Yeah, we call them a skunk. Yeah. But anyway, but I would, go ahead, Joe. Oh, Joe.

Oh, Joe. You know what I was going to say? Hey, Joe, what's that? You said you want to, you were the capuncia, you know you can get a skunk. Man, why I want a damn skunk for, Ocho? You know they could take the odor out of the skunk. Man, I ain't want to do, no.

Yeah, you can take the sack out. But if long, most people keep it in there because all you got to do is not, long as he's not scared, you don't, you don't spooky, you'll be fine. Oh, man, anybody taking that chance, yeah. I wait, but he'd know you, Joe? No. I don't know, like, other, other that if you got pets now,

You got other pets. You got a dog that might spooky, but he definitely goes to spray him. Oh, boy, and good luck, you ain't got enough tomato juice and lime juice. You know what it smell like? Yes, I do. I ain't no skunks in the end. You don't want to either. If he hit your dog, like I say, you ain't got enough tomato juice, live juice to get that stuff out, man.

Man, I'm talking about, but man, we've in the field, cropping the balka. man, Mr. Rund, one got spooked and sprayed. They had to shut it down for the rest of the day. So it's like pepper spray, basically. Yes. Without the pain, without the pain. That means that's the only defense they got, so they got to have something. Shields just won six-round knockout.

Yeah, I'm going to have to go watch them highlight. I know she put on the mean demonstration. That's right here in Atlanta, too, at the State Farm Arena. Yeah. Yep. Oh, she put on the show. What's up, big three? Start, bench cut.

Scarface, American gangster, or Godfather. Woo. For me? God. That's a lot of. Look, I don't see them all. And I know, hey, give me Scarface, American gangster, Godfather. That's just me.

Hey, that's tough. I'm going American gangster, Scarface, Godfather. Man, Al Pacchitos played that. Give another quay-loose. She'll love me in the morning. But Denzel played that American gangster, man. Man, he killed that.

You killed Frank Lucas. He killed that. All right, this is easy here. Oh, oh, Cho, got another one for you. Duo audition. You got this and Quine. You got Harrison and Wayne. You got Bruce and Holt. Damn. Harrison and Wayne

and Fis and Quine So you're starting Isaac Bruce and Torrey Hope Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're gonna bitch Harrison and Wayne And you cut in Fis and Quine Yeah

That wasn't that hard Yeah Oh, all right Nightcap team Start bitch cut LeBron edition For game one For game one

2009 LeBron LeBron 2013 or 2018 LeBron. Oh, this is easy. Who you got? It's easy. I'm going 2018, 2013, 29. So 2018, that was the apex of LeBron. Every 34, 8, and 8 throughout the playoffs, game winner after game winner.

I know they didn't win the championship that year. But that's, hey, that was he at the peak of his powers. And then I'm going to take 2013 LeBron. when he did what he did you remember that game six that he had against Boston 45, 15 and 7 and then come back with another 37

piece and then game six and game seven against San Antonio but for me, 2018 LeBron Hey, hold on that game six against Boston, that was an elimination game Ocho.

Like if they lost that game, that would have been two times in a row to where they went out because they lost the Dallas that year before. Year four. And they came back and what they back against the wall

against that great Boston team were Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and man, that boy put on the show. Hey, if we keep it in 100, that's probably the greatest game

he ever played in the postseason, bro. But you got to realize, Joe, in 2018, they was down. They had to win two games against Indiana

to get it back for a game seven. Yeah, yeah. They also had to win two games against Boston. But the thing they were that game six, you get with the game six in Cleveland, and then

went to Boston, and when he had what, had 38, 14 and 9. Ridiculous. It did what he did, and what he did, they named it, they called it Lebranto. They named the city of Lebronto. Yeah. Yeah. And then I had, after he did what he did,

I called him the baby dinosaurs. I couldn't even call him the Raptors so much. We y'all fantasy football, who's talking. I bet I ain't telling you. I ain't been to have Joe and Ocho try to steal my pick. Oh, no.

Why would that, I ain't going to steal your picture. I know you're not because you haven't been to tell you on here. Oh, I so might have moved from fourth to third. But you know Ocho still time for first, but you and Ocho still time for first place. That's something about right to me, fellas.

I don't know how y'all feel, but it sounds about right to me. I put it like this here. ISO might move from fourth to third, but old Joe Jawsah, he's second. Wait, who first? You're right. ISO by the move from fourth to third,

but Joe Johnson's second. Hey, you're an unc fighting for first here. What do you talk about? Y'all tied. Yeah. Y'all 1A and 1B. Nah. If I'm second, y'all 1A and 1B,

ain't a way in here one of y'all behind me now. Come on, Joe. Now, just keep it one hard on there. It's okay, man. Eventually, eventually it's going to come out. Hey, look, ain't nobody judging you, man. It's what it is. We, everybody knows.

Let it go, man. It's all where. It just, I had a little accident. That's it. It's okay. Hey, Joe, Joe fighting hard, man. Yeah. He's trying to convince everybody.

Man, I don't make you no bad brother. Okay, just accept it. If it don't make you no bad brother, why you can't accept your fate? Okay. Yeah. He wanted everybody to be in front of hill. I'm just saying, bro. I'm just saying.

That concludes this episode of night. Cap, want to thank you guys for joining us. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Congratulations to Clarissa Shields, knockout victory, take somebody else's belt.

She got all the belts pretty soon. There's nobody's going to have no belts in women's boxing, but Clarissa, because she got every belt from damn there from 145 all way up to 175. Yeah. I guess you want Alicia Baumgartner say she wants some of that There's another chick to be commenting

I forget her name She says she wants some of that And Clarissa say y'all can get all this All you want She said but in the next And y'all better get this before the end of the year Because she says she wants to have a baby And then she's going to come back and kick some more butt

After she had to drop this child on y'all So I'm just saying But that's what she's saying So we're going to find out how high is going to go So hopefully somebody can take this ass Come from Carissa before she step aside This child. Y'all know who I am.

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