Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 4: Nightcap LIVE from 2025 NFL Draft in Green Bay!

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

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if you're not selecting a quarterback. We knew they were selecting a quarterback. We just didn't know Jackson Dart should do it. But is he the... It is. Wow. You didn't see his mom patting him on his back? She wasn't patting him because he's going in the second round.

Right. Oh, my goodness. When did Cleveland pick again? Second round, right? Second round. Well, we'll get this. We got to tomorrow. Yeah. Oh, my goodness.

Hey, you do it like mad. If I'd have known this, I'd have stayed in school another year. Oh, my goodness. But. I can't believe they played like that. I'm surprised. I'm not, listen, I'm not surprised that they traded back in the first round. I'm surprised.

Yeah. But, Ocho, think about it. The last week, we started hearing this, that people had Jackson Dart number two. They had Slaw number three. They had Slid. Look what they got and gave up. Second round pick. They gave up a third round pick and a 26th third round pick.

It's confusing. I'm not sure what film they were watching i'm not saying there's nothing there's nothing wrong with jackson dart right but come on now i mean come on now when you it's kind of like when you look when you go to the grocery store you got a list you already know what you want yeah they they they they know the guy that they want um i'm a little surprised i thought i thought she'd do her play well enough but hey they haven't got it right in a minute they haven't they haven't got it right in a minute. They haven't gotten it right since Eli.

Well, they better get it right. They just, they better get it right. Right. Okay, okay. Yeah. Wow. But, you know, the momentum has started to build about Shador possibly sliding out of the first round. We like, okay, he done going early.

He done go to Cleveland. He done go to the Giants. It seemed like both of those teams had their mind made up. Had Cleveland not traded back, they were going to take Travis. Okay, they trade back, get the guy. They still get a great pick there. Right. And they pick up some draft capital along the way.

Now, the middle, from 10 all the way to 21, nobody needs a quarterback. So I'm thinking Steelers. He don't go 21 to the Steelers. Nobody from 22 to 32 needs a quarterback. So unless somebody trades back into the first round, Ocho, he's going to be a day two selection. Right. All right.

All right, guys. Coming to the stage, selected number seven overall in 1988 Pro Football Hall of Famer 2025, my brother, Starling Sharp. Give it up, man. All right. Oh, he's getting mic'd up. What do you want? Pass.

What do we got? Jackson Dart. The Giants traded back. They were selected number three. They take Abdul Carter. They come back up into the first round of 26. They make the trade with the Houston Texans. They select Jackson Dart. Wow.

That's big. That's big. That's, wow. So there's only two quarterbacks gone. Yes. Yes. We knew Cam Ward was going number one. A lot of people thought Shadu would be number two. Yeah.

But it's not how high you go. It's where you go. He still has an opportunity to go to a great situation. When you look at it now, what other teams still need a quarterback? Cleveland. Cleveland. Who else? How about L.A.?

The Rams? The Rams. I mean, Stafford's got to be a year left. Yeah. He's got a year left. That's a good one. They did take Stetson Bennett. I forgot about that.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I forgot. He started at USC. Jackson Dart started at USC. Okay. Everybody that plays quarterback now started somewhere else.

Oh, he does got – I mean, he got a lot of arm, okay. No, he played for Lane Kiffin, so he – Oh, Lago. He can play the position. He'sin, so he can play the position. He's going to be able to play the position. That's one thing about Lane. He's going to dial it up now. Wow, what a throw.

And you've got a lot of control. Quarterbacks have a lot of control in his system, too. Yes. And he moves just good enough. Yeah. Wow. Good catch, boy. Huh?

Good catch. What about the throw? The throw. Oh, what about the throw? Pretty good company. The third Ole Miss quarterback to be selected number one in the common draft. Archie and Eli preceded him. Archie was the second pick

in the draft. Eli was number one, and now we get 26. I like it. I like it. Wow. I don't know. To me, that's your door. Sanders, the labor just sounded much better.

Well, they did a job, boy. I'll tell you, I appreciate it. That is... Oh, wow. What you are... You like the Packers selection? I can say yes. I mean, I don't watch enough football to have an opinion. I mean, I don't watch football anymore.

So, if he's a receiver and he can catch, they got a good quarterback in Jordan that can throw it. I mean, he should have success here. Right. Dayball sees traits of Josh Allen and Jackson Dart. Who said that? The head coach. Come on now. Is that a compliment?

He was an OC. Yeah. When he had that breakout season. Yes, sir. So, the one thing we know, Dane Barker can coach now. Yeah, he said the same thing about Daniel Jones, too, didn't he? No. What's he call him?

He wasn't the head coach with Daniel Jones, was he? Who? He was the head coach, but I don't think he drafted him. Phil Sills, seventh. Phillip Rivers, fourth. Daniel Jones, sixth. Now, I can't believe that, man. That's crazy.

I think the thing is, when you look at the Giants, the Giants said, look, they were going to take Travis or they were going to take Abdul Carter. Oh, the Falcons traded back in here. They don't need a quarterback. Sure don't. No. No. Will Johnson?

James Pierce Jr. Running back. Oh, Edge. He's the Edge. Yeah. I like it. I like it. That's a good selection.

Two. They took two defensive players. They're like, look, we got to get better on that side of the football. They're like, I like our offensive coach. Yes. But their problem was being able to stop people. You know, you can't outscore everybody in this league. You know, they got B. John Robinson.

Yeah. They got Drake London. They got Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts. Mooney. Mooney's still there. Mooney's still there. Mooney's still there. Look at what the Rams got. Yeah, Boone is still there. Ooh.

Look at what the Rams got. The Rams got more for that pick than what the Giants gave up. Wait, which one? They got a second round, a seventh round, and a first. This year? They got a first. Yeah, next year. I'm telling you, it's setting itself up for the Rams.

I can see Shidori with the – I mean, I know Matt – I'm not trying to get rid of Matt Stafford, but he can't play forever. Yeah, you got to stay in the transition. That's what got the Steelers in trouble. They let Ben down the vine. Yep. If there's a quarterback you like, you take him a year or two early as opposed to letting your quarterback down the vine.

That's what happened to Pittsburgh with Ben Robinson. Yeah, they let him stay too long. Stay too long. And they ain't been able to find an answer yet. Nope. He's long, too. Yeah. Woo!

I've seen more football sitting on this sofa than I have in the last five years. You got that Al Wilson number 27 jersey on. I have never seen this much football in the last five years. Baltimore. If you're Baltimore, what you taking? What you need? Well, I thought. It's not even what you need with Baltimore.

It's what you want. Not remembering Christian Watson was a little nicked. I think ACL. I thought they would have taken a receiver. I thought they were going to get the guy from Texas, Baltimore. I was not thinking that Green Bay, I was not

thinking about Green Bay and Christian Watson's situation. So I was like, the kid from Texas, if he's there, which I thought he would have gone first. I thought he was going to hide. You remember Josh Jacobs? Yeah. Asking what he thought they needed.

Called some flags. He said, I think we need a number one. We need a dog. Everybody got mad. Could you see Baltimore taking a DB? Or do they go get another receiver? They got Wiggins already. You got Marlon Humphrey.

Marlon plays slot mainly. Safety? Good point. D-line? That's a good point. D-line. D-tackle. Because the young boy just retired.

Oh, Pierce? Yeah. Oh. He just retired. Go D-tackle. Because the young boy just retired. Oh, Pierce? Yeah. Ooh. He just retired. Go D-tackle. I like that one. I think the thing is Baltimore's like, you know what? We can take whatever we want.

We still got Lamar. We got Henry. We got Zay Flowers. We got the other receiver. What's the other receiver, Ocho? Not Aguilar. No, seven. Oh. Rashard Bateman. Rashard Bateman. We got the other receiver. What's the other receiver, Ocho? Not Aguilar. No, seven. Oh.

Rashard Bateman. Rashard Bateman. We got Bateman. We got Likely. We got Andrews. They got a nice offensive line. They re-signed Staley. So you're saying defense.

I think they go defense. Yeah. I definitely think they go defense. D-tackle. I'm definitely thinking defense. You got Roe. I don't know if there's a safety rating that high to go with Kyle Hamilton. No.

So I'm thinking a corner or D-line one. I say Will Johnson makes a lot of sense here. Because That's a good one. I like that. Malachi Starks, safety.

For Georgia. He's still in the draft? He's supposed to be a good defensive player. Yeah. But my question, I was like, okay, what safety is rated high enough? Because it makes sense with Kyle Hamilton.

Right. Your all-world safety. Okay. Well, Kyle plays in the box. He does. He does. He does. He absolutely does. This will be the third one. Defense. Two edges and a safety. Man, I can't believe they picked Jackson Dart.

I'm still... Safety from Georgia. Now look how it starts. I'm retired. I'm retired. I'm retired. I like the pick. I like this pick for Baltimore. I like retired. I'm retired. I like the pick. I like this pick for Baltimore.

I like that. I think once you get down this low, Cho, there ain't a whole lot of needs you got. Yeah. I mean, you won, you know, 11, 12 games. You went around in the playoffs. Right. So it's not like you're like there's one guy that's going to change your fortune. It's not like you're at the top of the draft.

At the bottom of the draft, I'm taking whatever the best player available, that's what I'm going to take. And at this point, especially this far in the draft. But Baltimore is a hard team too, though. They're a hard team to track like that. To be like, oh, they're going to take this or they're going to take that. They do everything that's a little bit unconventional. They always have been. The thing is, when you're that

good, it's kind of like Kansas City. What do they need? You win 15 games. You win 14 games. You win 12 games. What can you select that down at the bottom that's going to put you over the top? They might not put them over the top, but the first team you mentioned was Kansas City.

Yeah. That didn't dig O-line. O-line. They addressed the O-line situations. Now, I'm not sure what you're going to get of quality that far down. Yeah. But you ain't got no choice. Yeah, they definitely taking no offensive linemen.

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I like it. I like how it says you're paired with Hamilton. With Hamilton, that's nice, yeah. You know, you got Wiggins, you got Hump. Even though Hump kicks inside when they go three-wides, he's really good in the slot. And you know Baltimore, they got Roquan. So.

The general. The general. They brought Kirby. Kirby know how to get them guys, them defensive guys. Kirby know how to get them guys, them defensive guys. Kirby know how to get them. And can coach them. Yep. I guess when you would coach Saban for that length of time.

You got to learn something. You have to learn something. You know what win championships. Oh, yeah. And the one thing Georgia players, defenders can do is run. Oh, look how he flipped balls. Oh, look how he flip balls. Oh, look how he flip those hips. Watch this.

Look at this. Oh, bro, you can't fool me. Yeah, you can't fool me. I'm going to flip right through that. That's a good switch. That's mine. Yeah. Wait, hold on.

Is he playing nickel or safety? Okay, now you're at safety. Yeah, but you know, in today's college football, you got to be able to cover so much space. Wow. He was at the point in the first diagram. I like that. He got great ball skills. First diagram. I like that.

He got great ball skills. He got great ball skills. He got skills. He got great ball skills. I mean, the first two plays he made, he dropped this guy and made a play. Then on the deep ball, first thing you see, touch, look back for ball. Find it. Find it right away. Most of the time, you can tell when the DB is good.

Most of the time in those situations, they panic. Yes. They panic and just play the hands. And he plays with attitude, so he's going to fit right in in Baltimore. He's going to play just like them. So now the line is on the clock. They need some defense, Ochoa. Go get Will Johnson. He's from clock. Yeah. They need some defense, Ochoa. Go get Will Johnson.

He from Michigan. Yeah. That'd be perfect. Right down the street from you. Yeah, go get him. Go get him. Get Matt Matty with Brother Branch. Yeah.

Well, Brian Branch is the real deal. Yeah. Oh, my goodness, man. Oh, they got Terron Armstrong. They got Terron Armstrong. They got Teron Armstrong. They got Joseph. They re-signed Joseph. Terion Arnold, right?

Yeah. Oh, he's nice. What? I definitely think they need a corner. Yeah. You getting Hutch back. Yeah. You're getting Hutch back. Yeah. Now, are they going to re-sign Z, Z'Darrius Smith?

Oh, that's right. He is free. The question is, it's kind of hard to tell what they need because they have so many guys on our guys on our defensive side of the football. So it's really hard to tell what they actually need considering so many guys were banged up towards the middle end of the year. But the thing is, if you look in the division that they play, if you don't need guys that can score,

you need guys that can stop people from scoring. And in today's league, with the rules that they're wearing, you better have nine guys that can cover. And Detroit, with their offense, because they're going to score, I would definitely not be mad if they took a corner. Yeah, I think Will Johnson, like I said, he went to Michigan. He went to Michigan. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, I mean, if – The pick is in. Yeah. Ash, you going to be looking like ass? What we got? That's what we're looking like. No. What did he play?

Oh. What did he play? Oh, 99? Okay. Okay. I mean, considering all the people they had on defense hurt, and they still finished seventh in defense. Yeah. They put so much pressure on you because they score. They force you to play catch up.

Yeah, that's a good point. They force you to turn the ball over. That's why, you know, you had some of them lopsided games. Right. They got into that shootout with Buffalo. Yeah. D-tackle. I took a D-tackle. took a D-tackle

From Ohio State? Yeah Can't be mad at that either So it must be It must be happy with Obviously the skill position on defense Must be But Arnold gotta play better

He get too many penalties Yeah Too much holo Too much holo. Too much holo. Too handsy. Got to trust the feet. Trust the feet and the eyes. Yes.

When you do what he does, just tell me he's guessing. He's unsure. He'll be better this year, though. Yeah. Khali Williams. Ohio State. Well, you like that pick?

I think what they're going to do is play offense with their defensive line. You don't know how healthy that he's going to come back. Right. And, I mean, at 70%, I mean, he's a high-energy guy. He needs – they're going to play offense with their defensive line. I mean, at 70%, I mean, he's a high-energy guy. He needs – they're going to play offense with their defensive line. They're going to do a lot of that right there. They're going to do a lot of moving.

You are not going to get one-on-ones. You're not going to see a lot of that right there. They're going to play offense with their defensive line. Whoa, whoa. They're going to scheme, and they're going to slant, and they're going to move. They're not going to be in the same place when the ball snapped than they were when they lined up. That's what they're going to do. I like that.

Get off the ball. Great press. Look at the press. Look at the hole. Look at the whole part of the tackle with your press. It's A. Where you going? You going to the A?

I'm going to throw you here. You going to the B? I'm going to throw you here. You're going to the B, I'm going to throw you there. LA. LA? LA. LA. LA. LA.

3% chance they bail him at the 28th pick. Bro, he ain't going. Watch. No, he ain't going. Watch. No, he ain't going there. Ain't no quarterback. Yeah. Who draft after Washington? Buffalo.

They don't. He ain't going there. Kansas City. He ain't going there. Philly. He ain't going there. No, he ain't going there either. Man, they did. They did a number on young boy, man.

Hey, I like the Rams. If I'm Kansas City, I'd trade out of the first round. No, absolutely not. I'd trade out of the first round. I'd give you some day two second O-linemen. O-linemen? Okay, okay, okay. An extra second?

I'd get an extra second. Right, okay, okay. An extra second? I get an extra second. Right. Okay, okay, you're right. You can't miss on those picks either. No. You're going to trade out of the first round to get what? O-line, a couple of O-line on day two. They need an O-line bad. Remember how for the last time in 2020, They got their eyes beat out by Tampa

They go get Thuny They go sign Smith That's correct And they went back to back Super Bowls Yeah Damn Yeah, I mean it makes sense for them to trade out. That makes more sense

because, I mean, they don't have a need. They don't have a want. Right. And the question is if you with that being said, if a situation you're looking at is like, hold on. How high is rated

is the offensive line we're going to get at 30? Why not slide back, get a couple of extra picks? I can get a second, possibly a third, maybe a fourth. Hey, hey, hey. Shut up. What does Washington take here? Defense. Okay.

They got to go defense. Offensively, I mean. Nick is in. How they looking? What? What? I like. I mean, they're really high.

I would take. They're another team that you really don't know. Didn't they release a defensive lineman? Allen. I think Jonathan Allen. I think they lost Allen. Yeah. You replace him?

They could use a corner. Hold on. The DBs, man. Who's left? They got from the Saints. Came over. Marshawn Lattimore. Yeah. I don't know if he can run anymore, though.

He can't run anymore, Joe. Yeah. But he had to get his legs up underneath him, though. Remember, he was hurt for a little bit when he came from the Saints. Yeah. Then when he got out there, we're in the middle of the season. Mike Green. We'll take an edge.

Or the safety out of South Carolina. Okay. Nick Emanora. I like it. The pick is in. You go defense by offense. Definitely defense. Defense. You don't need nothing in offense. You go defense by offense. Definitely defense. Defense.

You don't need nothing in offense. Look at what they got. You got a wide receiver in Debo. You get Tunsell. You got Kinlaw. You got Will Harris. Sounds good. What do you play?

I like it. I like it. I like it. Protect the asset. Yeah. I mean. Wow. Man. Man. Wow Man Well that's the thing about that draft though man Golly

Did we not watch the film Forget what they talking about The eye and the sky don't lie Sometimes you'll talk yourself out of something they talk about. The eye and the sky don't lie. Sometimes you'll talk yourself out of something. I believe they talk themselves out of this. Everybody keeps saying, well, Jackson Dart's ceiling is higher than Shador's.

Can't even determine that watch is what they're talking about. Who is it? I can't even determine that watch. What are you talking about? Oh, yeah. That pick right there puts a lot of pressure on your offensive coordinator because you got new toys. You got Debo. And you're going to have to put them in positions to score. You got Terry McLaurin.

Ryan Robinson. Your offensive coordinator is about to be a star. Well, I mean, if Debo can stay healthy. Well, Clingsbury did an unbelievable job last year. Oh, yeah. And now he's got more. You're too under his belt. You got more guys that he can step outside of his system.

He's getting ready to be a star. If I'm Kansas City, I'm taking Amari and Hampton. What you already got on? Chico. No. That's crazy. That ain't working. Bro, you ain't fit to have all that kind of time. That ain't working Bro you ain't finna have all that kind of time

That ain't working That ain't working Nice pass off Nice pass off Excuse me Look at this pass Okay I like the stance Coming around

Get out the way son That ain't what you want At all But see now Ocho you can't go low You remember Yeah You create a pile

Yeah Now you gotta take that punishment He did? Yeah Okay okay He went to the charges Okay okay okay Because He did? Yeah. Oh, okay, okay. He went to the Chargers. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Because, you know, they let the other – who did they let go?

Because they had – what was the guy from Baltimore? From 27, number 27. J.K. Dobbins. Yeah. They lost J.K. Dobbins. Yeah, so I like the Chargers pick. He went early, Ochoa. Buffalo.

Okay, Buffalo. What do you get? What do you need in Buffalo? Tredavious White came back. Hold on. What position? You don't need that. No, you don't need nothing on offense. You can never have too much offense.

Corner. Corner. You never have too much offense. In today's NFL, look at that. We talking about jobs. They're begging you to score. So they're averaging about 13 wins a year and ain't got nothing to show for. You can't have enough.

You can't have all those wins or nothing to show for them. Yeah, but if you look at where their season ends, their season ends with either Kansas City or Kansas City. That's it. That's what they're playing against, basically. Remember they lost against the Bengals? The year the Bengals went to the Super Bowl? Yeah.

They lost to Kansas City. They keep saying they want to get home field. They lost to Kansas City. Kansas City went in there and beat them and then went on to Baltimore last year. Yeah. They had to go on the road to Kansas City. Yeah.

I would draft based on what Kansas City does to me. It's going to be the same three, same four every single year. So if they got the same four quarterbacks, what's up and happening with those quarterbacks? That's what I would do. Wow. Thank you, YouTube viewers, all you guys that are sitting out there at home watching us. We greatly, greatly appreciate.

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I love you. Y'all holding us down. We appreciate that. Oh. It's, uh, what we. Ashley, you say they took a. Corner. Where is he from?

Okay. Okay. Oh, SEC guy. SEC guy. SEC guy. He can rush. He can cover. You know, Rasul Douglas is kind of injured. He can do it all.

They brought Tredavious White back. He was injured. You know, hopefully he's healthy. A year removed from that ACL. Well, second year removed from that ACL. But hopefully he's better. I like Russo. I like the guy from Houston, the D-tackle. I love him.

I can't think of the name off the top of my head. Ash, what's the D-tackle number 91 name from Houston? Houston to Buffalo. Ed Oliver. Ed Oliver. Oh, he's from Houston. Yeah, Ed Oliver. Ed Oliver.

I love him. He's got a motor. He's violent. Ed Oliver. I love him. He's got a motor. He's violent. He strikes. I love everything about him. They got Russo on one edge, Epinesa on the other side. Yeah. Now, the question is, is Matt Milano fully healthy?

Boy, when he's healthy? He's sideline to sideline. He's top three. I like it. I like that. I'm going to make you famous. I'm going to make you famous. I'm going to make you famous.

He said, get it up. He said, get up in here. Come on now. Come on. You want some of my beef jerky? Yeah. You're going to need all the protein, though. You're going to need all that protein. Hey, Ocho. Hey, Ocho, what's your hat feel look like?

Oh, he was at the draft. Who? I say, why do they invite certain people when they know they're not going in the first round? And just have them sitting there looking crazy. I wouldn't come. If you don't, unless you're just certainly absolutely sure, huh? Abdul, you know, like Cam and Abdul and Trav. You know.

The Campbell. Man, I ain't, nah. Man, that's a crazy feeling. Ocho, you think Jalen Miller will go before it's your door? They playing game. Ooh, that's a good one. What you think? They love it.

A lot of people say he has the most upside. They can't stop you looking at size and arm strength. What I tell you to do. Told you, Ocho. Trading, I told you. For who and for what? They traded with Philly. I don't know why Philly feel they need to move up to 31. They was at 32.

They moved up one spot to make sure they get the person they want? Get the person they want. Get the person they want. They really, they really can go anywhere. Right. Other than quarterback, they don't need a wide receiver. They don't need a running back. They don't need a quarterback. They don't need offensive linemen.

We know they're not going to go offensive linemen. They got, they number one in damn near every position. Right tackle, left tackle, left guard, center. Receiver. So they got a top three player. Yeah, they do. So, D-Lyman, they loaded a D-Lyman. They've shown us you can't ever have enough D-Lyman.

Right. You got to tackle him to recover. Nice rotation. You got to tackle them or cover them. Nice rotation. You got to tackle them or cover them. So you get a situation where, hey, we got a NASCAR package. Yeah. We got a group that stops to run, and then we switch. Hey, then we change tires right quick, do a pit stop. Come on in.

Come on in, guys. Let's see what he looking like, Ocho. Oh, no, he nice. No, he nice. No, he not. No, he not. He not playing. No. That was nice. Ocho, look at this back there. No, he nice. No, he nice. No, he not. No, he not. No. That was nice.

Ocho, look at this back there. No, he nice. Look at this. Look at this, Ocho. Look at this. He nice. I got you. You thought I was going to bite my head.

No, he. You thought I was going to fall and put him down in the tailpipe. No, he in our conference. He's nice. Oh, damn. You should have showed that play. No, he not. I's nice. Oh, Dale. You should have showed that play. No, he not. That guy on the back side.

Look at him flip those hips. Flip, boy. Look how he flipped them open. Give me that. Look how he flipped them things, man. Look at his feet. Look at this. Look at this.

Look at this. Look at this. Uh-uh. Look at that. Don't try me. Our guys used to always say in South Carolina, he believes what he sees. He – you're going to have to be real good to fool him. Nice.

I like it. Nice. Eagles – Eagles said, man, we ain't fit to hold y'all. We don't need all this time. Come on. That's a good pick. Okay. That's a good pick.

Go DB. DB. The linebacker. Oh, linebacker. Yeah. They just signed Barnback. Yeah. They just signed Barnback. Yeah, they did.

Yeah. N'Kobe Dean. How healthy is he going to be? You know, he got a knee. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, see? Way late. Made for This Mountain

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sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. I believe y'all could have got that guy at 32. Yeah, he would have still been there. I believe he'all could have got that guy at 32. Yeah, he would have still been there. I believe he would have still been there. Because if he wouldn't have, if Kansas City would have wanted him, they wouldn't have traded with you.

Maybe they was worried about somebody else shooting up. No, they weren't. No, they were not. They were about to fall asleep. They just wanted to do something to get busy in the draft. Yeah. I like it. That's dope.

I like it. Look, I like the Bills pick. He's going to have his hands full now. Oh, yeah. Waddle. Tyreek. Mm-hmm. You got Buffalo in their situation.

Shakir. You got Palmer. You got Keon Coleman you got to deal with. Mm-hmm. I mean, the painters ain't got no... Mm-mm. I'm talking about that boy. I know you got Stephon.. Mm-hmm. I mean, the Patriots ain't got no... Mm-mm. I'm talking about that boy. I know you got Stephon.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about that... Yeah. Man, you... Like I said, Stephon... You saying that receiver for Buffalo? Huh? Receiver?

No, no, for the Patriots. Yeah, they got Diggs, but Diggs is coming off an ACL. You know, it don't want to take you a year. He's going to be on the inside anyway. Yeah. You need to get past that first year where you're dealing with that ACL, unless you're Adrian Peterson.

Right. I don't know. Well, I don't know where he rehabbed that. Yeah, you need to be up. Ash, is he coming through? Ash. No, Jahan. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. I heard him. Huh? We've been, next year, we got proof of concept. Show everybody we can do it. It wouldn't have as much. Thank you. I'll do shoes, bro. Shut up again.

Oh, Ashton Gentry. Wow. It's a... Oh, my goodness. Draft is so different. The draft is so different now. Now, you know, it used to be on Sunday. Yeah.

Day one started Sunday. And then it went Monday, Tuesday. Yeah. And you had seven rounds. Right. I mean, 12 rounds. When I came out, you had 12. Now they start on Thursday, go Friday, and Saturday.

That is it. Come on, Eagles. Speed. Speed. Speed. Speed on defense. Come on, speed on defense. Come on, speed on defense. Campbell, John.

Speed on defense. Speed on defense. He'll thump her, though. With speed. He'll thump her, though. With speed. He a thumper. Yes, he is. That's one thing about Bama guys. You strike.

Yeah, when they get there, you go down. Yeah, you strike there. All them 220 linebackers, they don't have that. They got them guys 235, 240. And can run for days. Yeah, man. That's a good pick for them, though. Oh, yeah. To get that kind of value.

And he can step outside that defense and be on his own. He can make plays on his own. Look at the side. He can make plays on his own. Get on your horse. Get on his own. Get on your horse. Get on your horse. Get on your horse. Do that.

That's mine. That's mine. That was a terrible throw. That's Carson Beck. I don't know what he was looking at. He don't either. Look at this. Read your ad.

Oh, dip it. What are you doing? Man, oh, Joe, some of them guys, I don't know what they be doing. I know they ain't coaching that. Showed up in a hurry. He was sudden, wasn't he? He was sudden. Yeah.

He showed up all of a sudden. Imagine you're a defensive player and you go into the Eagles. Man. Are you talking about a dream come true? What's up? The Chiefs are in. Chiefs pick are in. What we got?

That's how we looking. I wouldn't be mad if they went linebacker. Yeah. I mean, you say the Pigs will take offensive linemen. I would hope so. I guess you take the... Don't know how Ohio State got an offensive lineman that's still available.

Ooh. Yes. Yes. I mean, they got DJ Humphrey, who's a year going to be a year plus removed from the ACL surgery. They got Juwan Johnson. Smith is back. They got Creed Humphrey. They need a left guard.

You know, Joe Tooney is in Chicago now. Chicago has improved tremendously. They absolutely have. Yeah. The cornerback. Remember the cornerback? He won the Thorpe Award. Yes, yes, yes. And, you know. Why did he fall the way he did

I have no idea I mean he's probably thinking the same thing Shadour's thinking how did I fall oh right Simmons

Ohio State tackle and he's going inside you gonna play you gonna play the guard position or the tackle? He's going to move him inside. What do they like?

Look, I think everybody that's out there listening to us, everybody that's here, I think everybody's shocked that Shador slid out of the first round. Right. Look, once he got past that first three, nobody else really needed a quarterback until they got to 21. Okay?

He doesn't go in. Well, at nine. But are you really? Not at Saints. At Saints. But are you really that shocked, though? Because everybody, except for Mel Kiper, everybody was saying Shador was falling like a comet.

Everyone. Jackson Dart on the rise, Shador falling, except for Mel. And then when you start to look at all the intent, I mean, they talk about accuracy, accuracy, but then you look at Jackson Dart. He can move. He's accurate. He does all those same things.

So just listening to other people who do this for a living, they weren't shocked. And they were saying this since day one, since the combine, that Jackson Dart went to the combine, Milrow went to the combine. They all blew up. And it was like Shador was starting to fall. Well, for me, is that okay? Looked like he wasn't going to Cleveland.

He wasn't going to the Giants. Right. Okay. With Derek Carr's situation with his shoulder, we don't know if he went high. I thought he would have went. So now, he doesn't go nine. Nobody until 21 needs a quarterback.

Right. Once Pittsburgh doesn't select him, you're like, okay, well, maybe somebody trades back. I said, don't you think somebody's going to trade back in the first round? And when the Giants did trade back into the first round. So now they're going to take Nate Turek back and take Dart. I don't understand. So let me ask you this.

Does Milrow go before Shador? I just asked you that. I have no idea. Because, I mean, everybody likes Milrow. Everybody said he's a treat. He's going to keep growing. They like the ability, the 437 speed, the big-time arm. Now, he struggled with accuracy.

I don't like guys that struggle with accuracy in college. Not at that level. Not at this level, no. So if you struggle with accuracy in college, we saw that with Anthony Richardson. Yeah. So it's hard to go there and be accurate. Yes. If you don't bring it with you, you ain't picking it up on the way there.

Because you got to be, you got to be, you got to throw guys open. Yes, sir. Guys ain't going to be, every once in a while a guy blow an assignment, miss a coverage, and then all of a sudden you find somebody. But more times than not, you got to hit guys on the move. You cutting it loose before he gets it. Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Got so i'm tory skills man but they like they keep talking upside that's the

thing with you i know you're tired of hearing it but he talked about upside uh he has the ability his hat he has the the most ability to expand right yeah but when you talk about upside with with the milro and these guys you the upside is you're not getting off the bus playing right now. Your upside is you can wait two years, and then you can move in and be comfortable. Upside is not, oh, he's going to get better at what he does now. No, upside is the fact that, guess what? You ain't playing tomorrow.

We don't want you to play tomorrow. We really don't need you to play tomorrow right you really don't need you to play tomorrow it's like pennix in atlanta he had tremendous upside because they knew he wasn't gonna play right away but my thing is and i told ocho this when they signed cousins i said ocho the best i'm talking about the absolute best you can hope you get from cousins is two years what happenscho, if this car breaks down halfway through the season? And I'd be damned. Now you

stuck. You gave him $100 million guaranteed. Yeah. Yeah, but it's monopoly money. Monopoly money. Everybody can spend. There was a 3% chance he was going to be available. So there was a chance. Yeah.

Small. Boy, that's a bull. Wow. I mean, Ash, I'm only saying L.A. with the Rams with Shador. I'm only saying that because Stafford is in, I think, the last year of his deal. Yeah.

But I don't know. If it ain't the Rams, I don't know who. Right. I mean, the Saints could come back in the second round. Well, Cleveland picked first in the second round. Might be the first one taken. At the end of the day, bro, I won't. It's where you go, not how high you go.

I've always said that. I'm like, you know, I don't care. I don't care. Just let me get in a system that will allow me to keep being me. That's what I want. Because for me in a system that I can keep, I don't have to learn to be you. I don't have to learn to be you. I don't have to learn to be you. I want to

get off the bus being me. And that's the most important thing. I mean, the money is good too. You know, I'd really like to go second than to go seventh. But other than that, well, I get in the system that will allow me to be me. Me, I go to, went to a situation. I went to one of the three teams that had an H-back position. Yeah. What if I don't go to a team that doesn't have an H-back position? I came to a team that didn't want me. Washington,

the Chargers, and the Broncos. The only team that had an H-back position. Yeah. All the tight ends get hurt. What are the chances? There's no chance that all three of them get hurt.

There is no chance. I'm no chance that all three of them get hurt like that. There is no chance. I'm the biggest wide receiver. I just happen to weigh 215 pounds. And so, hey, he can play tight end. Right. Huh? Wouldn't have had 215-pound tight end within the 60s, the 50s. Not the 90s.

Right. But it's a Highest drafted receiver Since Calvin Johnson in 2000 Well there Well he's the highest drafted DB Since who When last time a DB went the second pick Sure what prime what number prime went

Prime was five We went with the four prime Sean Springs went two In 98 What number prime went? Prime was five. We went before prime. Sean Springs went, too. In 98. Yeah. Yeah. He came out with Charles Wilson.

Okay, but Sean was nice, boy. He was nice for that one year. I don't know what happened. And then everybody started cooking. Oh, that's Ocho right now. That was Ocho release right now. Yeah. That was Ocho release right now. That staff.

He like, I ain't going nowhere. I ain't going nowhere. That was Ocho release right now. That staff. He like, I ain't going nowhere. I ain't going nowhere. That was an Ocho release right now. Excuse me. That's a. He got a lot of you, man. He does. He has a lot of you.

Yeah. He torching. He really torching. Ooh, man. He torchy. He really torchy. Ooh, man. 82 to 58. That's He gonna be nice in Duval, man. Oh, yeah.

He finna put them butts in the seats, boy. Yeah. He finna put them in the seat. I just You know, I just hope they don't wear him down. Kevin, how do you play him? They gonna let him do what he want now. How do you play him? I build a package on offense, but he play in defense. You drafted him as a?

DB, the play receiver. Oh, you getting ready to lose the room? Lose what room? The receiver room. How? Ain't he better than what's there? That ain't got nothing to do with my money. Man, we ain't trying to hear all that.

Oh. Really? He better than what's there. Really? On both sides of the ball. Okay, so now we're going to do this? I'm just telling you. Hold on.

You've been in them rooms. Yeah. What receiver you know don't mind sharing the ball? What receiver you know is okay with you making catches? Well, it don't matter. I mean, at the end of the day, I think it's always like this when you're a rookie coming in. Oh, yeah.

You got to prove it. You got to prove it. Now, I ain't just trying to, you know, just take it. I understand. I know it. Look, your position is here. You here for the next three years. But I'm still going to make you work.

Or they're going to put me on the other side. Yeah, one of the others. I ain't going to the bench. Hold on. Who the receiver in Jacksonville right now? Man, they got – Brian Thomas. Oh, my God.

Never mind. I'll take that back. No. Hold on. He's the second best receiver. What would Jackson feel? What? You think Brian Thomas is going to be happy seeing him coming through?

Brian Thomas Jr. Yeah, Brian. No. That's some good help, though. Yeah. That's some good help. Brian, he's not better than Brian Thomas Jr. I know that.

That's the best question. Now, with that being said. How did I forget that? Do you pair him with Brian Thomas and let him play limited snaps on defense and let him play ball? on defense and let him play – That's what I would do. Nah. That's what I would –

Brian Thomas Jr. can carry that load by himself because he did it last year. The question is, let's see what Jacksonville does day two. They ain't got no second-round pick. They gave that up when they moved up. So they ain't got no second-round pick. So there you go. Hey, he a receiver. He a receiver. They got to be.

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Mm. Mm. Jazz. Crazy. Jazz, keep Kayvon Thibodeau. We'll exercise to the... Like, why would they not keep Thibodeau? You got him on a fifth year option. Why would you not keep him? Right.

I'm not, I mean, anybody surprised by that? No, not at all. I don't think so either, no. Not at all. Not really. I mean, you got, you put him with Thibodeau on one side, you got Abdul-Kart on the other, and you got Big Lawrence in the middle. Or you put them both on the same side.

And move them. Right. Just twisting stunts. You got Big Dex, you know he going to hold it down in the middle. Nasty, right? Big Dex is a good one. I mean, I like what the Giants do. I do, too.

Because you got to go hunt. I do, too. You got to hunt Jalen Hurts. You got to hunt Jayden Daniels. You got to go hunt that. Well, I think you definitely got to look at Washington and Philly because their quarterbacks are moving. You definitely got to have somebody that can move with them.

Oh, yeah. I don't think Dak is going to move as much as those two, but those two in Philly and Washington, you need some folks that can go get them. All right, look. This was the worst kept secret ever. Yeah. What, Cam?

Very. Yeah. I mean, think about it. After this pro day, they canceled all the other drinks. Come on now, Joe. We know what we're doing. We've seen enough. Mm-hmm. I like it.

I like this pick. Look, I like the top picks. Does he play his first year? Oh, yeah, he play it. Wait, in Tennessee? Yeah. He going to have to. I think he may even play day one.

So you don't think he sits a year? Not at number one. No, you don't sit number one. Number one gets off the bus. They did Carson. Yeah. But they don't do that no more. Yeah.

Lamar? Yeah. Lamar? Yeah, Lamar. But Flacco came off a Super Bowl. That's right. It's hard to beat your quarterback that won Super Bowls. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, look, you can say what you want about joe flacco's better than will nevis yeah by far see my homes he sat behind alex smith alex smith yeah alex smith was number

one overdraft pick they were in the playoffs the year before right wow and think about it. All the playoff success that they had, Andy still traded up to take him number 10. Yeah. You see how the four were thinking? I know what this offense is, but it could be so much better. Better. Man, I got Kelsey. I got Tyreek.

He's sorry. But sometimes as a coach, you got to do things that's unconventional. Because, man, you just went to the playoffs. Man, you got Alex Smith playing so well. Right. But I know what this offense can be. I see what it is, but I know what it can be. Right.

If I get me somebody that'll push the ball down the field that's not afraid to take chances, because, you know, I've named and checked down Alex. Yeah. So, I named and checked down Alex. Yeah. So, I... Oh, I can't believe they did. Pistons. What happened? Pistons lost by two.

Jalen Brunson probably did something incredible. Look at that. 12 and a... 12 and a 4. Cat had 31. What can he do? Did Cade go crazy? K, 24-11.

Hardaway Jr., 24. Hmm. Oh, okay. You're like Grizzlies. Grizzlies, you're in some fight. They trying. Oh, it's still a lot of game to go. There it is.

Y'all must be going crazy. Or Jaron Jackson. Pippen Jr. Jaron Jackson. Yeah. I like this. Hey, hey, hey. And the Clippers, the Clippers.

Yeah, they put- Killing the Nuggets. They are. Okay, shit. Yo, kid's got a tripleouble already. I'm not. I'm. I mean, this is your door, man. I think it'll be interesting to see what, you know, social media has to say about Shador falling.

No, it'll be interesting if Milrow go before him. Oh, my gosh. If Milrow go before him. But it's possible. Yes. It's possible. Yes. I mean, it's not like it's out of the realm of possibility.

This has been a collective effort. Media. GMs, owners. But a simple fact. They allowed. So is it because his last name's Sanders? That's what you're saying? There's no other reason.

There's no other reason. There's no other reason. Just turn the film on. I want my quarterback confident because if he doesn't have that, he can't play. I don't care what his skill set is. You got to have confidence. You got to be – you just have to believe. Look, in pro sports, you have to believe you the baddest mofo out here, and I'm here for a reason.

You got to be mentally strong and not allow the outside noise to get to you and that's hard man that's hard but i think and plus you can't go press now ojo yeah i can't show you what i can't show y'all what y'all missed in one game yeah but let's look at let's look at his look look let's look at the history of those. Let's just say he and Melrose, just to throw out two names. Right. He's always been the guy.

He's always been the guy. He's never been challenged. I'm not saying that's good or bad. I'm just saying he's never had to show you that I am who you think I am or want me to be. Jalen Milrow was about to be a DB. Let me ask you this. If I take Shador and put him at Alabama

and I take Milrow and put him at Colorado, you think Alabama has a better record or a worse record with Shador? I'm going to say a worse record because Shador doesn't run enough or run more. I think with Milrow's legs, and I think he throws it accurately enough in college football for that team to be successful, if Nick Saban is still coaching it, no diss on Coach DeBoer.

But I just think that when you look at what Nick had him do, he was very good at what Jalen Milrow is. I don't know if Shadur could take an Alabama offense because he doesn't run enough. College football is all about the legs, man. You got to use those legs. Milrow ain't running in Colorado with that offense, Aliyah. No, Milrow would have been running in Colorado with that offense. Yeah, he would have been running.

He wouldn't have gone complete 74% of his throws. I know that. He might not have 10 touchdowns behind that offensive line. I agree with that. I'll agree with that. He'll have 1,000 yards rushing, though. Or 2,000 yards rushing. I kind of disagree a little bit.

Will you? Obviously, they're in Alabama. Just say hypothetically, if the players had switched, there's no Travis Hunter in Alabama. But I think collectively as a group. Williams ain't bad, though. No. No.

No, but that's what I'm saying. You got to look at how the conference is built. The conference is built. You see Georgia. You see all them D-line. All them D-line with the edge rush. You got to be able to move a quarterback. Georgia.

Ole Miss. I mean, you got to be able to move it. You got to be able to move. If you look at all the quarterbacks in the SEC, they can throw it. Even if he can't do it with his legs, he's a better thrower of the ball than the Royals. Yeah, but we're going to attack that weakness. See, when you're a dual threat,

it's hard to attack a weakness because we don't know which one it is. But if you can't run, you're going to be standing back there? Oh yeah, we're getting to that. Our conference is built on getting to that. That is an interesting situation, though. If you had to put put some money what do you think you're doing

into now here's the thing i'm going with the rams i'm staying the shock is gonna be if he slides out of the second round we already we surprised right that he slid out of the first round we would be shocked i gasped but if he slide again I wouldn't even know what to say I wouldn't even know what to say second round Saints Rams

that's that's that's disrespectful can I go back can I go back to college yeah Saints Rams can I get my eligibility back

and go back to college it's gotta be one of those two Saints and Rams yeah alright I say Cleveland to you guys that came out and stood the entire show, thank you so very much. I appreciate you.

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