Nightcap - Nightcap - Josh Allen's Struggles, Chad Beating Gilbert Arenas in 1-on-1, Viagra

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson discuss the Broncos’ win over the Bills (4:00), Lou Williams’ excuses for the LA Clippers (21:00), Ocho playing one-on-one with Gilbert Arenas (36:00), go...ing on safari (52:00), and much more. #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:47 Ocho, let's jump right into it. The Broncos go to Buffalo, defeat the Bills. Russ was 24-29, 193, two touchdowns. Josh Allen, 15-26, 177, one touchdown, two picks, and a fumble. Yeah. The only quarterback that has thrown 10 interceptions in each of the last four seasons is one Josh Allen. Yeah. Let me take it off. I thought tonight Russell Wilson played probably his best game as a Bronco. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:06:22 24-29. You saw the improvisational skills on full display. We saw the pirouette out of a sack, loft the ball to the corner of the end zone. Cortland Sutton makes a great catch, drags the toes, touchdown upon review. We saw him almost get sacked, flip the ball to a P-run,
Starting point is 00:06:43 grab a first down. We see him almost get sacked on the goal line, get the ball, loft the ball to Javante Williams, touchdown. This is the Russell Wilson that everybody saw for
Starting point is 00:06:57 10 years in Seattle. And the people in Bronco country was like, okay, where is that Russ? Where is that, Russ? Where is that, Russ? I thought he played unbelievable. I didn't like the sack late in the ball game, but he did a great job of holding on to the football. I think that was more of an offensive line. They walk Poirier up into the gap. The running back, P. Ryan, took him. It looked like the offensive line made a rip call. So they're turning the backside in
Starting point is 00:07:25 free. Russ has to know that and get rid of that football. Right. But the one thing you can't do in that situation, Ocho, is turn the ball over. He took a blindside hit. He held on to the ball. Live to see another day. Josh Allen is a turnover machine.
Starting point is 00:07:44 You remember I keep telling you can't overcome bad quarterback play yeah and let me tell you what I think has happened Ocho I think that 13 seconds in Kansas City right but ever changed Josh Allen let me tell you why at least temporarily because he plays every game like he has to make every throw because in that game he had to make every throw and it still wasn't enough. So he's still playing that same, that exact same way. And it's costing his team.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Right. I get the first pick, the one that sailed through Gabe, uh, uh, David, I give that, that's what,
Starting point is 00:08:19 but right before the half, you can't throw that. You can't make that throw. Oh, Joe, you can't give the ball to the Broncos and let them get a walk-off field goal. Field goal. Another thing, which is, I mean, the
Starting point is 00:08:29 casual fan, maybe the person not actually watching that specific play, the receiving guy, you got to help your quarterback out. You got to help your quarterback out on that deep out, whatever it might have been. You can't be falling back out the route like that. You can't be falling back out the route and allowing the DB to beat you back to the ball again it's still on josh allen but you
Starting point is 00:08:48 got to help your quarterback in that situation at least knock the ball down yeah the magnitude because if you're able to knock that down maybe don't get that walk off field goal but go ahead and finish finish your point and and that situation and then we see the ball he's gonna hand the ball up to james cook and he just fumbled he just to James Cook. And he just fumbles. He just fumbles the ball. Right. He just fumbles it. I mean, James Cook is like, what happened? He's looking around.
Starting point is 00:09:10 But Josh Allen has turned. I mean, he's been that way. I'm not saying he's turned into it because Josh Allen has always been high turnover. Yeah. But he could turn the ball. There have been games that he could turn the ball over and overcome that. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Now they're not good enough to overcome those turnovers. Yeah. His defense can't get the ball back for him. And he's turning the ball over. If the Broncos offense would have opened up, think about how many times they started in Buffalo territory and only had six points to show for it. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Yeah. But Josh Allen has to play better he's playing horrible he's playing terrible i have a question is it really is he really playing that horrible right now or is it just the fact that he's been a turnover machine before in the past but he's been able to get them back because the defense was playing to a certain extent to where he was able to recover similar to that of we talked about it last night with the Ravens. With the Ravens, you talked about Lamar being able to turn the ball over, but they've been over the overcoming because the defense is so goddamn good
Starting point is 00:10:12 and Lamar is so goddamn special, they always put themselves in the position to be able to overcome those turnovers. Yes, you're absolutely right. And so a lot of times, you see, winning masks a lot of things. You said it josh allen has always turned the ball over but we sweep it under the rug if you win right now it gets accentuated because they're losing and a lot of times we're losing to what we think is lower competition than what they are right because buffalo probably had the fourth or fifth best odds to get to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And now we see opening day for turnovers. We see tonight for, again, for turnovers. We've seen a reoccurring theme with this team and turning the football over. And a large share of those turnovers are coming at the hands of Josh Allen. I don't care how talented your football team is. Eventually, it will bite you in the butt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Just hope it doesn't bite you in the butt at the most inopportune of times. And tonight, Josh, I mean, they started off the first, think about it,
Starting point is 00:11:13 the first play of the game. What happened? Turnover. Turnover. Last play right before the half. Turnover. Turnover. And that, listen,
Starting point is 00:11:21 that beginning, that first turnover really set the tone really for the whole game. Yeah. It set the tone for the whole game yeah yeah and uh uh it's frustrating um having been on teams that were on offense that we turned the ball over in the defense look matt milano going out uh tradavious white going out. So now you're already down. Those are two of your best defenders. Von Miller. Uh,
Starting point is 00:11:46 he has that knee brace on. So it's going to take bond some time to beat a Von Miller that we remember before he got hurt. It might not even happen this year. It might be next year before he gets back to being the player that we remember. Right. But we also got to remember he's a little older now.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I think bonds, what? 33, 34. Right. He's also got to remember he's a little older now. I think Vaughn's what, 33, 34? Right. So he's not the same player coming off that injury. So it's going to take a little longer
Starting point is 00:12:11 for him to get back into playing shape and being able to attack the quarterback like we're used to seeing. But Josh Allen, he's got to do a better job protecting the football.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Ocho, one more thing. Yes, sir. I'm trying to figure out what the hell Sean McDermott doing. Why the F would you bring a bomb blitz in that situation? First of all,
Starting point is 00:12:29 you expect the guy to kick it. First of all, he's already missed the PAT. He's already, he's already bobbled a snap. So they missed two and he missed the field goal. So you really expect this man
Starting point is 00:12:40 to kick a 62, somewhere between 62 and 65 yard field goal? Why would you run that risk? Why would you put your corner sometimes? And I get it. In that situation, what do you expect the DB to do? You let him get a free release
Starting point is 00:12:56 because you're playing off because it is a Bron Blitz. He's going to eat that cushion up so quick. And so Russ did a great thing. Russ put the ball up there. The DB had his back turn and guess what he's going to eat that cushion up so quick quick and so russ did a great thing russ put the ball up there the db had his back turn and guess what he's going to do run into the receiver and the back judge is all he's going to do is throw that little yellow flag on it's coming right out listen yes i think one of the hardest things is one of the reasons why i always say that playing defensive back is
Starting point is 00:13:20 probably the most difficult position to play outside of the quarterback position because the receiver knows where he's going. And then when you're in situations like that, you're basically on the line. What's the first thing you do when you panic? You see a receiver running, his eyes get big. You run right into it. You run right in. You panic.
Starting point is 00:13:37 You panic. One of the most difficult things to do is remain calm, to remain poised in situations like that, and get your eyes and your head around and get back on the ball. All you got to do is turn around. It's easy to say from your couch, but try being on the
Starting point is 00:13:53 field and try to get your head around. When the game is on the line and it counts, you got to make a play on the ball. You don't want to impede or you don't want to interfere with the receiver. It's a different ball game. it's a different ballgame. It's a different ballgame. And it's unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:14:09 It's unfortunate. For one, I'm happy for Russ. And the fact that Russ won the game, I would love for you. I couldn't get you to give Dak his flowers yesterday. I need you to give Russ his flowers. Did you not hear I opened up? I just said Russ played the best game right that wasn't enough for me i want you i want to say i want to say come on broncos country it's
Starting point is 00:14:31 something would you like a box of these was clevex look no no no in real talk and i know people think i've been critical but i have expectations of russ right russ was one of the top quarterbacks in all of football and the broncos made that trade gave up what they gave up to get him but that very reason you think the broncos if they thought russ was going to play like he's played the first year uh last year and a part of this season you think they gave up what they gave up beginning mo, sir, because there's nobody else that could pull off what he's doing right now or what he would have done. There's nobody else that would have
Starting point is 00:15:09 given you the chance to do what you're doing now or what you expected him to do. Mocho, do you realize what they gave up beginning? Two first-rounders. You give up that kind of numbers because there's an expectation. You don't expect to be picking in the top 10, the top five, which they picked.
Starting point is 00:15:29 And you gave up Noah Phan. And you gave up a D lineman. And you gave up a quarterback. And you gave up a second and a third round pick and two first rounders. And you think they would have gave that up for the production they got out of Russ Ocho? Hey, this is what you got to understand. What they gave up for Russ is based on what they saw in the past on his resume. Sometimes, listen, sometimes when you get in a relationship, you envision one thing and it turns out to be another.
Starting point is 00:15:56 But at some point, if you keep on working on it, if you keep on chopping at it, if you keep on chopping on the bit and you keep on working on the way you want things to go, tonight is a result that you see from Russ. At some point, the tables are going to turn. At some point, what we thought between Sean Payton and Russell Wilson was a bad marriage, all of a sudden they go to therapy, they go to counseling, and the shit starts turning goddamn beautiful. All you got to do is just keep on working, keep on chopping wood, and tonight is a result that you get when you just keep on working, put your head down and just go. What happens when you leave therapy? Huh? What happens when you leave therapy?
Starting point is 00:16:32 You can't be in therapy always. You don't got to be in therapy often, but you see the results of the night. Tonight is a result of when you go to therapy with your spouse. That's what you get. I see you, Russ. Keep on cooking, baby. No, Russ played well tonight. 24-29, 193, two touchdowns,
Starting point is 00:16:52 and all important, no turnovers. Yes. That's how you win. Yeah. But, I mean, you think about it, you won 22-21, and you got four turnovers from the... You know four turnovers.
Starting point is 00:17:04 That's supposed to be, at minimum minimum 28 to 31 points, Ocho. Easy. Easy. When you get those guys – and you starting drives in the opposing team's territory. Territory, yeah. And I thought they could have really put the game away. Courtland Sutton fumbled the football and let them get right back into the ball game. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Because I thought the Broncos had right back into the ball game because i thought the broncos had seized control of the ball game and then and sutton got a little careless with the football the defender made a great play got it out he tried to get it back they dove onto the football but give them credit check this out uh you're a dyke scholar i don't know if that's his real name or her name but this is what she said. Need a touchdown to win the Super Bowl. Ray Lewis defending Shannon. Revis defending Chad.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Where the ball going? Your quarterback is Brady. Man, y'all better stop playing or you know damn well where that ball going. It ain't going to Ocho. Who it's going to? Ocho, stop. That's not even fair. That ain't even fair. It ain't. Because Ray ain't no goddamn
Starting point is 00:18:08 covered linebacker. He's sideline to sideline. That ain't even fair. Hey, I got a news flash for you. Let me break some news to you. There ain't no linebacker covering Shannon Sharp. So he ain't being created yet. Well, actually, it depends on if you
Starting point is 00:18:24 want to go into today's era, where I like to call the linebackers hybrid that can actually cover backs out the backfield, that can actually cover tight ends. They ain't wanting to cover me. Shit. They ain't want to cover me. I got one right now that'll cover you and lock you down. I can name one for you right now.
Starting point is 00:18:41 He better cover me at 55 with two of them. Even if he was in your prime. If he can't cover me, he's them. Even if he was in your prime, he'd cover you. You want to know his name? Who? No, his name, his last name Warner, and I ain't talking about Ted.
Starting point is 00:18:56 His last name is Warner, and I ain't talking about Ted. Please tell me you're not talking about Fred Warner. Yes, the best middle linebacker in the game. He can cover out the slot. He can cover tight ends. He can cover the back out the backfield.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Ocho. Ocho. Yes, sir. Ocho, do you realize the tight ends he cover? They ain't me. Do you understand who you're talking to? I know your resume. I've seen your resume.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I've seen what you did. I watched you play? I know your resume. I've seen your resume. I've seen what you did. I watched you play. I played against you. Okay. I'm too big of a cat to be played with like a kitten. I like that one. Hey, wait. Say it again.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I'm too big of a cat to be played with like a kitten. You must want to get Fred Warner to get 200 drops. Hey, talk your shit. Yeah, I like that. Nah, nah. Hey, I think Fred, you're right. Fred Warner is the best middle linebacker in football, but they hadn't created a middle linebacker
Starting point is 00:19:55 that could see Shannon Sharp. Not in pass coverage. I like where you're going, man. I like where you're going. Oh, how about this? Les donated $100 in the ass One dinner for one hour What person do you choose
Starting point is 00:20:10 Dead or alive Oh that's easy for me Dr. King Yeah Hell yeah One person dead or alive Lifetime you choosing Dr. Martin Luther King I'm choosing Dr. Martin Luther King.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I'm choosing Dr. Martin Luther King. I mean, I could say Jesus. But I'm going to get more than I am because I'll be asking for favors. Because I'm going to say, Lord, can you tell your old man, I know I've been bad. I done done some, ooh, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:20:44 But ask him to forgive me. I'm going to do some more you know what I'm saying? But ask them to forgive me. I'm going to do some more things, too. I'm going to do some more hood stuff, too. But forgive me. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to get the damn lighting right on me so I look good. I know my baby watching.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I know my baby watching. I'm sure dead or alive. She's asleep. She's asleep. She's probably asleep. She's watching the back of her eyelids. Unless you tattooed on the back of her eyelids unless you tattooed on the back of her eyelids
Starting point is 00:21:06 she ain't watching you right by that hold on hey that's a great question right there too cause now you got my mind jogging whoever asked that question
Starting point is 00:21:13 got my mind jogging to some of the people that I admire that I look up to some of the areas that we weren't alive in I know it's gonna sound crazy it's gonna sound crazy some of the areas that we weren't alive in. I know it's going to sound crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:29 It's going to sound crazy. I would love, I would love to sit down with Red Fox. Then with Red Fox. I mean, that's probably weird. That's just off the top of the head right now. There's so many others that I admire from back in those days.
Starting point is 00:21:51 But something about Red Fox and what he was able to do during that tenure. Yeah. You know, San Francisco, I think San Francisco only came on for like two years. No, no, they had more seasons than that. Come on, now. I don't think so. Because he wanted more money and they wouldn't have grown. If you remember, Lamont left and they brought Big Cal in.
Starting point is 00:22:08 So Cal did it for a while. How many seasons was Sanford and Son on? It had to be more than that. Six seasons? He's, uh, six ain't that bad. He should have been on more. But that was in the heyday. That's when they had
Starting point is 00:22:23 Sanford and Son, they had the Jeffersons, they had Good Times when they had rip they had sanford and son they had the jefferson's they had time had all of the family they had what's happening they had uh uh uh uh alice three's company wait hold on that was that was the heyday alice and one wait no um no alice males okay okay okay okay And Flo told my kids, my grits. I was thinking about... For some reason, I was thinking about Small Wonder. Remember Small Wonder? You remember Small Wonder?
Starting point is 00:22:53 What about Punky Brewster? I do remember Punky Brewster. Oh, that's throwback. That's memories right there, man. Yeah. Oh, that's memories. Check this out, Ocho. Lou Williams on the Clippers losing in the bubble.
Starting point is 00:23:06 He said, this is why they lost in the bubble. We started hearing the rumblings that nobody was going to respect the chip. So we kind of took our foot off the gas. So I'm going to make sure I'm here. You correct. You took your foot off the gas. Once you got up three,
Starting point is 00:23:21 Oh three, one. Now you subjected yourself to all that quarantine. Because remember, Lou, he got the name Liverpool. I gave him that name because he was at Magic City. Now, he came back and had to do quarantine for what was it, seven to ten days? He did all that.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Same thing with Trez. My Trez and Trez had a great reason. I think his grandmother had passed and he had every right. If he didn't even come back, I wouldn't have held that against him because he's close to his grandmother like I'm close to mine. And so everybody would have understood if Trez said,
Starting point is 00:23:58 you know what? I can't do this. Nobody would have held that against him. But once you come back, you can't use oh we thought they we started hearing rumblings nah bruh what do the rumblings matter anyway what do the rumblings on the outside even matter to what you're doing
Starting point is 00:24:14 on the goddamn court you know in the first place I mean I think I don't want to call it a cop out an excuse. An excuse because the other team was able to come back and beat you. Walk you down.
Starting point is 00:24:32 They walk you down. Walk you down. And I think maybe they did let off the gas a little bit. Maybe they did let off the gas a little bit. In a situation like that, you got to put the team away. You got to put the team away. Put them out of their misery. No need to let them hang around. Put them out of their misery and going on to the team away. You got to put the team away. Put them out their misery. No need to let them hang around.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Put them out their misery and going on to the next round. Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, you take your foot off the gas. Okay, you're up 3-1. You take your foot off the gas. Okay, now it's 3-2. Now you're like, hold on. We better step on the gas.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Okay, now remind you, Ocho, they took leads in the fourth quarter of all the ballgames. One game, they were up 19 at one point in the gas. Okay. Now, remind you, Ocho, they took leads in the fourth quarter of all the ballgames. One game they were up 19 at one point in the third. One game they were up 12. So they took leads into the fourth quarter of all the games. Right, Ash? Okay. So now, you
Starting point is 00:25:18 ain't take your foot off that you got the lead. Now, you got revisionist history. After they chase you down, you you want to say you took your foot off the gas well how you get to lead so you stepped on the gas to get the lead and then all of a sudden you're like nah we good and plus you know people gonna say it's it's cubic zirconia the ring not even real so why so why'd you even get past the first round? If that's the case, go ahead and lose in the first round.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Listen, I think it's just one of those things where you reminisce, you reflect. Things don't go the way you expected it. And you just come up with something or is a reason to why it happened. You know, I love Lou to death. Very good friend of mine. But I ain't I love, I love Lou to death. A very good friend of mine, but I ain't buying it. I ain't, I ain't, I ain't buying it.
Starting point is 00:26:09 I ain't buying it. That's, that's my guy. I ain't buying, Ocho, I ain't buying them three, four dollars. So,
Starting point is 00:26:15 you know, I ain't buying that boo, that boo job he talking. Not three, four dollars, Ocho. Right. But they need,
Starting point is 00:26:21 but they need to stop that because what they're trying to do is they're trying to minimize the team that did win them and the guy that was at the forefront of winning it. Oh, people are rumbling. Now, so in other words,
Starting point is 00:26:36 had you won it, you're going to say, nah, I don't want this ring because it's not legit. You think they would have said that old joke? I'm just asking. No, no, probably not.
Starting point is 00:26:44 You know, it's a great question that i can ask i can ask you because you know a little bit more about basketball uh those that i know that are in the nba i don't really ask this question do you think the players really care that much about a ring unless it comes to the conversation and being one of the greats one of the goats or one of the best ever play or do you think it's more the conversation and being one of the greats, one of the goats, or one of the best to ever play, or do you think it's more the focal point is more on the money? Because I heard people say, shit, you can't eat them damn rings. You can't pay no bills
Starting point is 00:27:14 with them rings either. I think the thing is, Ocho, I heard Carmelo said that. Carmelo said in the 80s and 90s it was about the rings. His generation it was about the bag um i think the thing is for me every i can just speak to me i wanted to win a championship right whatever money they were gonna pay me was gonna be more money that i was gonna be making doing
Starting point is 00:27:40 something else so there's something special about making money doing something you love because my grandfather said boy if you if you do something that you love, you'll never have to work a day in your life. So guess what, Ocho? I ain't have a job yet. Actually, when I was working in those fields in South Georgia, because I ain't like that shit, because it was hot and the hours were long. But playing football, I never viewed that as a job.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Doing TV, I never viewed that as a job. Doing TV, I never viewed that as a job. But I think, why can't you have both? You know what I get asked? A person asked me, and they ask, I think they've asked a lot of guys this. Given a choice, you want the Super Bowl ring or the Hall of Fame jacket? I say, I'm glad I ain't got to make that choice because I got both. B-O-A-F. I got both.
Starting point is 00:28:25 So, why can't you have both? LeBron James got four championships, got $500 million from the NBA. You can have both. It's possible, but that's not in everybody's favor. That's not in everybody's favor.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I would have loved to have won a Super Bowl at some point in my life. I would have loved to be in the Super Bowl at some point in my life. I would have loved to be in the Hall of Fame at one point. But the cards, the cards that were dealt to me,
Starting point is 00:28:52 I made the best of them. And I did what I can based on the situations that were at hand. So, you know what? I don't think I'm going to make it to the Hall of Fame. You know what I'm going to do?
Starting point is 00:29:00 I'm going to put on my own goddamn jacket and I'm going to induct myself in the middle of a goddamn game on the sideline. So I'm going to make the I'm going to put on my own goddamn jacket and I'm going to induct myself in the middle of a goddamn game on the sideline. So I'm going to make the most of the time that I did have. No ring,
Starting point is 00:29:12 there's nothing. You know, stuff like that is out of my hand. Obviously, it's the team game. You know, during my tenure, obviously, you want to reach that point and reach in the pinnacle
Starting point is 00:29:21 of not just your childhood dream and plan and then fail, but one day hosting and lifting that Lombardi trophy. It wouldn't, it wouldn't, it wouldn't, it wouldn't, it wouldn't,
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Starting point is 00:29:31 it wouldn't, it wouldn't, it wouldn't, it wouldn't, it wouldn't, it wouldn't, it wouldn't, and the energy and the effort they would study, they would meet, they would train, they would eat accordingly. You see, you cannot get mad at the results you didn't get for the work you didn't put in. I mean, I don't know what happened, man. I can tell you what
Starting point is 00:29:57 happened. Tell me what you did. Tell me how you train. Tell me how you live. So you think every athlete at the highest level, whether it be NBA, baseball, you don't think they love the game? Because in order to even reach the height, the height of the height, to even be a part of the 1%, you got to be good and love what you do to even get to that point. No? Ocho, I've seen No? I've seen guys be good, but as far as studying, as far as training, as far as preparation.
Starting point is 00:30:33 They just did the bare minimum? I'm good. Bare minimum. Damn! Bare minimum. Bare minimum. Bare minimum. That's okay. They're not the only okay. There are people,
Starting point is 00:30:46 they're not the only ones. There are people that's working at their job right now. Do the absolute bare minimum. I'm just here to get a check. You know, you always get exposed. Those that do it just for a check always get exposed on the back end now.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Yeah. So, me, the question is, how do you feel about your respective numbers not being retired in Denver and Cincinnati should more teams retire uh numbers of all-time great oh that would be nice that would be great but I got when I got to Denver I didn't expect to have my name up in the stadium and I definitely didn't expect to have no hall of fame Chris next to it so hey it would be a it's a huge honor uh I'm in Monument Park uh all the hall of fame players uh got their got their uh heads on a statue you know on a statue out front I'm good yeah it'll be a huge honor I'm not gonna say oh man I want yeah that'll be a huge honor but I do
Starting point is 00:31:44 have a number retired at Savannah State. Ain't nobody going to ever wear number two again. So you know what? And well, my high school doesn't exist. And they took three out of circulation once I left out of there. So I'm good. Yes, it would be a huge honor. That's the highest honor to have to be bestowed a player or a statue.
Starting point is 00:32:04 You know, Shug, very deserving, got a statue. Tom Brady's going to have a statue. Peyton Manning, statues are reserved for the great. I ain't that. But I thought I was a pretty good player. And I'm okay with that. But I tell you what I did do, Ocho, I squeezed every drop out of that limit I could get.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Every single drop. There was nothing. Yeah, I think. There was nothing. There was nothing left. Any coach. See, when people always ask, they ask me, say, well, Shannon, what were you? You need to go ask guys that I played with.
Starting point is 00:32:38 You need to go ask the trainers. You need to go ask the people that was at the Broncos and at the Ravens. Say, how serious was football to Shannon? Because, see, I can't do it justice. Because, see, you're going to think I'm just telling you what you want to hear. You need to go ask. And don't ask no Brian Billiken. Don't ask Mike Shanahan because they got to say the right thing.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Go ask players. Go ask front office people. Go ask people that I didn't even know. And then come back and tell me what they tell you. That's a great question too. When I think about the number 85, it not being retired in Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Anytime anybody puts on that jersey, they think about Ocho. When you see the number 85 in general, it doesn't even have to be the Cincinnati Bengals. The number 85 in general, it doesn't even have to be the Cincinnati Bengals. The number 85 in general, it resonates with just being Ocho. During that time, I'm just telling you, it just resonates. So I did what I had to do during that time.
Starting point is 00:33:40 You know, I don't need my jersey retired. Would it be nice? Yeah. But again, dude, I'm from goddamn Liberty City. The odds were stacked against me to even making it out of Liberty City during those 80s, early 90s era. And having my name in the stadium and being a part of the Bengals ring of honor. Thank you. Enough.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I tell you what the odds was to get up out of there in liberty city in the 80s man stop playing the young fellas is something and i'm going off off off off the rails a little bit here one thing about today's era that they didn't have when i was growing up and maybe i'm not sure where you come from in your era but my era where we were growing up, we had something in the streets that they don't have now called discipline and structure. Yeah, for sure. The dudes that's moving like that.
Starting point is 00:34:32 And if they know you are part of the sports world, and if you want to, if you want to linger off and rumble, nah, buddy, ain't none of that. This ain't what you do. You not even built like that. There was structure there was discipline that made sure you stayed on the right path today today's society oh yeah
Starting point is 00:34:52 come on man get in the car and all that that that riff that riff raff and rigamarole no my homeboys my homeboys i would like i would go out there with my sister sometime and they'd be you know the little joint and i was like hey hey, man, I'm about to head back to the city. Anybody want to roll? They're like, nah, Shaw, man, you know I got that stuff on me. The last thing I need to get you pulled over and then they go in the car and that's going to be new. Bro, you know we care about you.
Starting point is 00:35:16 You made it out. To see you on television? That was enough for them. Because their big thing is when they in the pen, that's my homeboy. Man, you don't know him. Man, I went to school with him. That's my boy. They get their phone,
Starting point is 00:35:32 their homeboy, they done gone. Hey, man, tell you my homeboy. I'm standing here right with him right now. I said, yeah, man, we went to school together and he could play a little bit too. But his head was hard. That's why I went one way. I went to the right and he took a left but they would never but you know what ocho the community raised bingo man look here man if they
Starting point is 00:35:53 saw they like ain't you ain't you miss ain't you miss mary a grand boy yes ma'am now you don't want me you don't want me to tell miss mary do you no No, ma'am. You know what I'm saying? Hey, ain't you Barney's boy? That was my grandpa. Ain't you Barney's? Yes, ma'am. They saw you doing something wrong. They corrected you. It was yes, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:36:17 No, ma'am. It's not that. You're not my mom. You're not my dad. You don't tell me what to do. Anybody in the community that was older than you could tear your tail up yeah and then it was gonna be worse when you got home man you ain't want to deal with marriage you're gonna get it twice you're gonna get it twice yeah he said what
Starting point is 00:36:39 i bought one of the worst women my my uh brother got had my aunt. Aunt Bess was in the car. She was laying down, and my brother was cursing. She was saying, little boy, I'm going to tell Barney now. I don't give a you. Yada, yada, yada. You're talking about? Little boy. No.
Starting point is 00:36:54 That was my brother. He was cursing me and my cousin. We played basketball, and he was cursing like a store. Ask him about it. If you ever see my brother, hey, your brother told a story about how you was cursing, and Aunt Bessie told you. She was going to tell then he told you she was going to tell little boy. I'm going to tell Barney now you're doing all that nasty cursing. He kept it going.
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Starting point is 00:39:23 Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second.
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Starting point is 00:40:34 your podcasts. Check this out, Ocho. No chill, Gil. Just donated $200. Gil, appreciate that. Gil, are you watching? Gil, I love you, baby. That's my dog.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Gil, I love you. He hit me up today. See, and everybody thought, man, you say I Gil. Bro, y'all don't know. Everybody that has a commentary, that don't. Now, I know where Gil is coming from versus some of these other jack legs out there taking the shots. But when they take the, but see, here's the thing that I learned.
Starting point is 00:41:09 When them suckers take their shots at me, Ocho, I refuse to turn my audience over to them by going back at them. See, that's how you do it, Ocho. Y'all say nothing. You keep. Yeah. What I'm doing, my subscribers, my success does all my talking.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Right. I talk to people that have an interest in what I have to say. I ain't talking to no haters because if you don't like me, you're not going to subscribe, but you're not going to listen to me. And if you notice your clicks and mention come when you talk about me. So, what does that tell you? You only get likes, you only get views
Starting point is 00:41:49 when you're talking about me. So, your only success is when you take a bite of me, somebody that's more successful. Talk your talk. I got this little story, right, about Gilbert. Hey, Gil,
Starting point is 00:42:01 Gil can attest to this, you know, and sometimes when I tell my stories, people be like, oh, man, you lying, man. You lying. Listen, I don't be lying. You do sometimes. No, I played Gil one-on-one one time. About one-on-one one time.
Starting point is 00:42:15 We played the 21. We had a little money on the line. A little $50. A little $50 bet. That's it? You know, I ain't spending no money now. This and this prime. So he was making that bag. That bag bag? You know, I ain't spending no money now. You know, this and this prime. So he was making that bag,
Starting point is 00:42:27 that bag bag. Man, we played the 21, man. Man, I beat him by seven. Beat him by seven. I called him up one time. Hey,
Starting point is 00:42:37 I took him east and I took him west. I took him east and I took him west and he fell. Right? And I hit the little mid range about 18 feet.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Bam! And looked at him. This is how I was looking at him. You had did him nasty, bro. Did him nasty. Hey, I could, right now, I know I'm 55, right? I know I'm old. A lot of people tell me, Chad, man, sit your old lad down.
Starting point is 00:43:01 You're always trying to do something. You're always trying to fight. You're always trying to spawn. Yeah, you should. You're always trying to do something. You're always trying to fight. You're always trying to spar. Yeah, you should. You're trying to do something. I'm like, I'm built different, boy. Right now, I can come off the bench for the heat. That's how I'm feeling, huh?
Starting point is 00:43:13 It's something that's in me. Everybody ain't got that. What heat? It hot where you at? Nah, it's cold out here in Philly. No, I'm talking about the Miami heat. Boy, have you ever seen me off the dribble? You ever see my mid-range?
Starting point is 00:43:31 Stop playing with me, man. No. Hold up. I need Gil to jump in this chat right quick. Man, he don't want no smoke. Hey, he don't want no smoke. Hold on. What did we start?
Starting point is 00:43:48 Hold up. So we're going to start. We're starting to poll. You know what we're going to do? Every time you tell a story, we're going to start a poll to see if the chat believes you. They ain't going to believe me. They ain't going to believe me because I put the work in. The chat wasn't around when I was in the gym shooting.
Starting point is 00:44:03 The chat wasn't here. The chat was not here when I was in the gym shooting. The chat wasn't here. The chat was not here when I was in the gym shooting. And we call it a cap meter. Who? A cap meter. No, baby, my rap ain't got no cap.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Oh, you took the other one down about what he took on Sunday? Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah hey trey porter just asked he said ocho is it really true you took viagra that's all you need half a pill before why you try to bet on the food field no no no no no. You're not listening. Listen, you got to think. Stay with me now. Stay with me, baby. Okay, I'm with you. Think about Viagra, right?
Starting point is 00:44:52 You understand what the pill does. I know what it does. Now, it's an enhancement. Get one up on your tongue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen to me. It's an enhancement with the increase in blood flow to improve performance
Starting point is 00:45:09 horizontally, depending on how you do it. I don't know what you do at home, but to improve... Yeah, they want to, Ojo. But if you take a half a pill and take it before a game with a little bit of Red Bull,
Starting point is 00:45:27 it increases the blood flow which enhanced, turns into almost an added performance enhancer in a sense. So you got a boost with that energy drink and the blood flowing. Bingo!
Starting point is 00:45:48 And I'm out there going crazy. I'm out there going crazy on the half of Viagra and a little bit of Red Bull. And people are like, God damn, I can't stop. I can't stop Ocho for nothing. And then you know how I am. I'm talking the whole game. I'm talking the whole game. So the increase in blood flow, it has me moving times 10 that what I would regularly be moving without it and that's what people don't understand that's what a bagger coming to play yeah yeah you probably
Starting point is 00:46:15 taking them now you probably had when you had that 12-hour marathon said you probably like seven eight and I was just playing about that I was just playing about it but this here real because this is this is one of the reasons why I feel I'm one of the best ever. Because what you can't do, what you can't do is you can't tell the history of great NFL receivers without talking about Lil' Ocho. You can't do that. Gil just commented. Gil said you were faster than he thought. Yeah, I told you.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I'm like that. I told you, yeah. Now, ask LeBron what I did to him out there in New York. No, you ain't do nothing. Listen to me, now. Hold on. Listen to me. Stay with me, now. Stay with me. I can't remember the place where everybody
Starting point is 00:46:56 trained at, all the NBA dudes in New York. Oh, you talking about the Summit? Yeah, man. Yeah, I dropped by 12 on LeBron. I dropped I dropped by 12 on LeBron quick I dropped by 12 oh oh
Starting point is 00:47:08 in the open run yeah it was open run yeah it was open run wow Bron huh Bron you got it yeah the chosen one
Starting point is 00:47:21 that's him yeah oh you ain't you ain't see the story today? You ain't see my little clip where I was about to spar with Bud Crawford, huh? You ain't see that? Man, I don't hit you one time on your liver. You're going to pee all over yourself.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Did you see the clip or not? Tell somebody over there to send you the clip real quick so you can see my face. And I'm saying, I ain't backing down from nothing. Dang it, boy. I'm from Dade County, boy. That's okay. They get whipped, too. But I'm from New York. Yeah, they get
Starting point is 00:47:51 beat down, too. New York, Brooklyn, Bronx, Bed-Stuy. Do me a favor. Ask Bud by these hands. Yeah. They ask me, Ocho, do you still take Viagra? Oh, I don't need itagra oh i don't need it no more i don't need it no more because i'm not playing football no more i'm not playing football no more and listen when it comes to and i don't mean i can listen that ain't what that ain't what it made you do
Starting point is 00:48:16 realize that bagger was a blood pressure medicine oh yeah you right you right by that i mean and they found that they found that it gave the side effect they're like what well I I ain't took it I ain't took it in years it's been 11 12 years and most of the time you know
Starting point is 00:48:31 for men I can neither confirm nor deny I ain't gonna lie to you I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you the truth cause this I'm talking about me
Starting point is 00:48:37 I ain't talking about you right now I'm talking about me I can neither confirm nor deny well I might I might have dabbled once upon a time.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Mm-hmm. Well, you know that old joke. We family, and I can tell you, and the people that's watching, I consider you family because you done subscribed us,
Starting point is 00:48:58 so I'm going to give it to you raw. I ain't... Oh, no, don't do that. Ooh, raw for real? Oh, oh. Oh, oh. You put raw, you put raw,, don't do that Ooh, for real? Oh, oh Oh, my bad Oh, my bad You put wrong
Starting point is 00:49:07 You put wrong, me don't do You put Me My bad My bad You put wrong You get it through My bad
Starting point is 00:49:15 My bad I meant tell the truth Okay, wrong I meant tell the truth I meant tell the truth Okay, okay I meant tell the truth, you know I don't want to lie
Starting point is 00:49:23 Like, in my marriage, in my union, I don't need no pill. Because you ain't getting nothing but three minutes anyway. Well, she has to understand. No, but you know that first time.
Starting point is 00:49:39 The first time you want a bad one. You're trying to show off, huh? You want 15, at bad one. Ooh, you know, you want, you know. They trying to show off, huh? You want 15, at least 15. Yeah, you're 15. Pull out all the sides. But hold up, listen. And sometimes, you know, the first time, you know what you got to do?
Starting point is 00:49:51 You get in there right. And sometimes they catch you off guard. You be like, oh, shit. So you got to slow down. You stop. And you hold the conversation real quick. Don't do that. Huh?
Starting point is 00:50:02 Well, you know, first, you got your first time. You know, you don't talk. You don't talk enough. Oh, I'm drama know I'm gonna get you up you know what I'm saying so you pop the first time you pop one you put it on real good now the next time you go back
Starting point is 00:50:19 Ocho I went back Ocho I ain't have that diamond in my system you know so I didn't do I ain't have that diamond in my system and you know so I didn't do it quite like I did it the first time so I was gonna go back for the third time
Starting point is 00:50:30 you know what she hit me with she said bring that penis you had the first time I saw you I said God I want a God Ocho Ocho I want a God
Starting point is 00:50:44 she didn't even say bring it she said bring that one I want to God on you on you I want to God you ain't with the same brain you say brain that what you can't the first time
Starting point is 00:50:50 I saw you I want that second one hey you know what happened to the best of social it happened to the best of it happened to the best of it you know what happened it happened to the best of us it happened to the best of us
Starting point is 00:51:07 it happened to the best of us you know what Chad you say why are you always open nobody wanted to tackle that that's why you was always open what I ain't gonna tackle you either I'm gonna wait till you run past me and jump on your back
Starting point is 00:51:22 I ain't tackling you from the front people don't understand. It wasn't nothing like that. It was just... But you said you was running on three legs. I was. I was. I was.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I was. I mean, I'm not going to get into that because I don't want to piss my baby off because I know she's going to see. Don't do that. Don't do that. I don't want to piss off. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Don't do that, Ocho. Ocho, I know you saw this. Gospel singer, Bobby Storm, tried to serenade her fellow passengers on a Delta flight. Boy, you got me.
Starting point is 00:51:52 You got me. I'm going to cry, man. Ocho. What she said? What she told you? She said, bring me that hat the first time Joe. What she said? What she told you? She said, bring me that. Bring me that. That I had the first time?
Starting point is 00:52:08 Yeah, she said, bring that penis you had the first night. The first time I saw you. Don't bring that second one. Man, come on. Oh, man. Oh, Lord. Oh man Oh Lord have mercy Oh Joe Man you done got me a hothead
Starting point is 00:52:35 You just saying George Oh man Man my bad Man you got me Man you got me in tears man but that's the group yeah man but did you see uh the singer on the on the delta airline flight was trying to serenade the passengers i understand that she had she was nominated for a grammy and she thought it would be appropriate even after the uh the flight leader had said, everybody said,
Starting point is 00:53:06 you know, sit down so they can hear, I guess the announcement of, uh, uh, the, uh, the flight safety.
Starting point is 00:53:12 And, you know, she felt that, you know, it was, you know, God, and I,
Starting point is 00:53:16 I hate when people talk about what God wanted me to do that. Come on. God, go have, God, go have you on a no fly list and you ain't no angel and you ain't got no wings. So I don't know how you gonna get from point A to point B.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Because I don't know very many gospel singers unless you Kirk Franklin probably flying private. You know what? I didn't get a chance to see that clip. But did they allow him, her, to serenade the flight? Her? No.
Starting point is 00:53:43 No? They're asking if you're not gonna be able to be quiet, you're gonna have to get up off this plane. Are the flight? Her. No. No? They're asking somebody, if you're not going to be able to be quiet, you're going to have to get up off this plane. Yeah, for sure. I know they ain't playing with one of God's people. I know they ain't playing with one of God's children like that. Nah.
Starting point is 00:53:57 What airline was this? Go ahead. Delta. And don't you say nothing bad about Delta. That's the problem. I rock with Delta. It ain't no problem. Delta, I rock with you. And you wonder why I fly Spirit, because of stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:54:08 They wouldn't have done you like that on Spirit. They wouldn't have done you like that. Check this out. She said, I sing for the Lord. I'm doing what the Lord is telling me to do. I guess when they told her, guess what they told her? When they told her they're going to put her butt off that plane, the Lord told her to be quiet. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Ocho, Ocho, you know you can. Ocho, when you get on a plane, I mean, I get mad when people, I mean, you right next to somebody. And I can hear your conversation. I'm on the other side. Bro, you talking jazz. So can you imagine singing? Don't nobody want to hear that? other side. Bro, you talking jazz. Can you imagine singing? Don't nobody want to hear that.
Starting point is 00:54:48 I waited. Back up a little bit because I was on a flight from Miami to Cincinnati and we did karaoke. We did karaoke an hour in flight when we hit about 32,000 feet when they were doing the service back and forth.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Well, I know not the flight you play on, that thing getting about 10,000. I've seen kites fly higher than them playing. I'll be on Spirit 777. What you talking about? Don't do that. Yeah. A real airline.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Ocho, people don't want to hear. Look, I'm sure there might be some people, but the vast majority of people... Yeah, they want silence. They want silence.'t want to hear I'm look I'm sure there might be some people but the vast majority of people they want silence they want silence
Starting point is 00:55:29 they want to relax yes yes I mean I know I ain't paid that kind of money to hear you sing I'm going to have a problem
Starting point is 00:55:37 with I'm just going to be honest so you also have a problem with babies babies crying on the plane I mean I would prefer look it is what it is I understand everybody i mean every kid is not gonna be you know get on there and be quiet i mean i've commended some parents like oh my god
Starting point is 00:55:52 your child was unbelievable and then there's some that that go crazy cried and and was fussing the entire night i get it it is what it is and you have to understand, Ocho, like, you know, when you fly commercial versus us flying charter, it's entirely different. I mean, how many times have the plane taken off and we stand it? How many times have the plane been landed and we stand it? And we walk it up and down the aisle. But that's the difference between charter and commercial. In a commercial flight, the flight attendant, the flight leader, they're in control. They're the police of the sky. What they say, go.
Starting point is 00:56:33 I don't get, hey, I get my seat, I buckle up, I ain't got nothing to say because I need to fly. You can't be on that no-fly list? I sure can't list I sure can't I sure can't
Starting point is 00:56:47 I'm not hey you mind if I you mind if I take a picture sure I go right up there in the thing take a picture with them they need me to sign so hey I sign and keep it moving I don't want no problem cause I need that I got to fly my job requires me to fly
Starting point is 00:57:02 and a lot I like it so uh there's a lion loose a circus lion escapes get captured seven hours later as it rambles as it walks through neighborhoods in rome in rome you should buy rome like rome coliseum said, I'm going to get y'all. Coliseum, yeah. He said, I'm going to get y'all ass back. Y'all remember we used to have the lion back in the day? Wait. Nobody killed, nobody hurt. Nothing like that, huh?
Starting point is 00:57:31 No animals, no pets. Mm-mm. Yeah. I don't think people. Have you ever seen a lion up close? Yeah. You know how big it is? Do you realize?
Starting point is 00:57:40 Huh? I've been on safari, huh? I don't want no part of that. I don't want no part of that I don't want no part of that I went to when the old sick friend Roy they used to have a show at the Mirage MGM
Starting point is 00:57:53 yes and so I had great seats as a matter of fact I took me my sister, my mom my brother, his wife and my ex at the time and so I'm sitting on the end, now when they come down
Starting point is 00:58:11 they bring all the lions and tigers right down the aisle I'm sitting on the aisle so them tigers are bigger than the lions I mean you could literally if I just did this I could have touched him I could have touched him and I could have touched him.
Starting point is 00:58:25 And all of them are white. White tigers and lions, even lions coming down the aisle. I was like, oh my good. That's what I used to do when I go to Vegas. I used to go to the shows. They're ginormous. But you know what, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:58:41 That's what I got to do. I want to go on a safari. You got to. I've been on a safari. I ain't trying to shoot nothing. I just want to see. I just want to see them in their natural habitat. In Kenya, I did a safari in Kenya, and I also had the opportunity to live in the grasslands with the Maasai warriors, which was
Starting point is 00:58:58 very, very, very different. Very different. I did three days out there with them. Very scary. Man, hey, can we get that poll up do y'all believe ocho did three days in the grassland with the bus i did i'm telling you i'm not gonna make i'm not gonna make that up the pictures yeah you will oh the pitch every time i say something y'all think i'm lying man i'm telling you the truth the pictures are up there they're 90% chance that there's a there's a high probability likelihood so
Starting point is 00:59:26 you misrepresent the truth I ain't gonna call you a liar I like to say you misspoke the truth trust me I was out there in Kenya man out there in the grass I've been on multiple safaris trust me I'm trying to take my kids
Starting point is 00:59:43 matter of fact I'm glad we talk about safaris and stuff you know I do trying to take my kids. Matter of fact, I'm glad we talk about safaris and stuff. You know, I do a trip with my kids every summer, right? I want to take the kids to Giraffe Manor in Africa. They talk about, hell, no, we don't want to do no bullshit like that. What the fuck? Oh, Joe, now that I think about it,
Starting point is 01:00:01 they might run and put you in a grass skirt. They keep your ass over there. You look like one of them old Kenyans where you think I'm from look at look at look at the structure of my face look at
Starting point is 01:00:16 I'm symmetrically African asymmetrically African I'm Nigerian I'm like African. Asymmetrically African. But let me ask you a question. Do you know like, I'm like, no. I'm like 94,
Starting point is 01:00:31 95% Nigerian. My ancestry. Yeah, I did my ancestry. I should do mine on the show. Yeah, next Thursday I'm going to do mine on the show. I like that because I wonder. I don't know what I am.
Starting point is 01:00:47 But you have to take the test and then you have to send it off. Oh, I got to send it off? Oh, shit. Yeah, I wonder what I am. You know what, Ocho? They believe you. They say they believe Ocho. All you got to do is Google it and you will see my pictures of me in Kenya and Africa.
Starting point is 01:01:04 So why would I be lying? I don't know. You will see me with the Maasai warriors and we greet each other. It's based on your vertical. How can you jump? That's how we greet each other. Yeah. I mean, you know what?
Starting point is 01:01:20 Now that I look at you, I remember seeing you in National Geographic. That was me. That was me. We all look the same Paul dark no hair dark no bald head skinny they said Ocho if you didn't play
Starting point is 01:01:33 receiver what position would you have played or would you have wanted to play easy DB especially with my knowledge of the game and my understanding of I'm a linebacker. I would have ran your ass over, boy. They call me graveyard
Starting point is 01:01:49 because I live for your bodies everywhere. That's what they call me. Oh, Ocho. I'd put pain on you, Ocho. I would have ran right through your ass, man. Don't play it. I would have ran right through you, boy. I would have ran right through you. I would have ran right through you i would i would feel different now i bet you i'd have brought your
Starting point is 01:02:09 family together and i ain't talking about for no family reunion either they'd have been eating turkey and dressing and you wouldn't know a damn thing about it i promise you that tran asked let me ask you this Ocho Tran asked Which comedians Are on your Mount Rushmore Mount Rushmore Comedians Yep Yep
Starting point is 01:02:29 Number one For me And a lot of people Might not like this Because maybe a lot of people Don't understand him Or really been able to To
Starting point is 01:02:42 To vibe with his intellect and some of the jokes and the truth that he talks about. But George Carlin's my number one. George Carlin's my number one. I'm going Pryor. Richard Pryor? I'm going Richard Pryor. Richard Pryor would have probably been my number two.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Can I tell you who my number three is? Okay. Yeah. Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy who my number three is? Okay. Yeah. Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy is my number two. Well, Eddie. Eddie would do it when you could say what you want to say. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Well, Proud was saying what you could say what you want to say. Can I give you my number four? Yeah. Dave motherfucking Chappelle. Because he's saying it when you can get canceled. He's saying what you ain't supposed to say. He don't care.
Starting point is 01:03:35 And ain't nothing you can do about it. Because what they can take away from him, he walked away from anyway. Yeah. So you can't counsel somebody that don't want what you... So we got three because I like Pryor, I like
Starting point is 01:03:51 Murphy, I like Chappelle and probably my third... Man, I love me some Bernie Mac. I love me Mac. You know who the Apollo shows?
Starting point is 01:04:07 Yeah, man. Bernie, I don't know if you remember him, but if he'd have been a little longer, Robin Harris. Man, Bebe's kids, what you talk about, man?
Starting point is 01:04:16 Yeah. Remember Bebe's kids? Stop playing. Yeah. Robin Harris. Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah. But I can see Carlin.
Starting point is 01:04:25 I love, I love, I just love a good comedy show. And, you know, over the years, I've become friends. Bruce Bruce. Funny, man. D.L. Hughley. Stan the Entertainer. I know K. Hart. Have you heard T.K. Kirkland before?
Starting point is 01:04:42 I have. I love T.K., boy. T.K. funny, man. T.K. funny. Funny. Yeah I have. I love TK, boy. TK funny, man. TK funny. Funny. Yeah. Women, I love some more. Some more very funny.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Mike. Mike. I mean, the comedy show. Count your boy in. I mean. It's a. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 01:04:59 And my boy Quake. Quake. Now, probably. I'm closer. Yeah. I'm probably closer. All the comedians. I'm probably closer to Quake.
Starting point is 01:05:05 I'm trying to think. You might not remember. You know Marvin Dixon? I heard of him. Hey, I'm going back towards my way. Benji Brown, Marvin Dixon, Lil Duval. Very funny. Back in the day, I used to go to the improv in the offseason.
Starting point is 01:05:23 This is during the tenure when I was playing in Coconut Grove. I'll never forget. And this is not a lie. This is not a lie because Benji Brown could be able to attest to this. I was very funny. So what I would do was, just going to the comedy show is fun to some men, some friends of mine used to do. But if the first comic ever got booed off the stage at the improv, I think it might have been Tuesday nights a week ago in Coconut Grove, I'll never forget. If the first comic got booed off the stage, I would finish the first of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories,
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Starting point is 01:06:58 I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal
Starting point is 01:08:42 that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yes, sir. Ocho, we got 19,000 people watching this live right now. 19,000? That's crazy. Yeah. Now, I need you guys to click that subscribe button because I know all 19,000 of you haven't clicked that subscribe button.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Click the subscribe button. Click the like button. And go ahead and push us up to 300K. So come Thursday. We give away $500 for 20 people. $500 for 20 people. I guarantee you there's somebody in this chat. I guarantee you there's somebody in that 19,000
Starting point is 01:09:46 that's seen me do stand-up comedy at the improv back in the day in Coconut Grove I guarantee you I guarantee you if you and I if you and I were to do a stand-up say who you think
Starting point is 01:09:56 gonna be funny me because I'm naturally funny I'm naturally funny and I got good jokes you can't you can't you can't you can't
Starting point is 01:10:03 you can't mess with me don't do that. Do you know how difficult it is to stand up in front of a crowd and tell a joke? You know how difficult that is? Ocho. Do you know how difficult that is? Yes, sir. Ocho. I've done it before.
Starting point is 01:10:17 It makes me nervous. It don't make me nervous. Because you know I got jokes for days. I got jokes for days too now. Hey, put up in the chat. If Ocho and Shannon had a set, we did a set.
Starting point is 01:10:31 We get 10 minutes. That's all we get, 10 minutes. Who you think will be funnier? They know I'm going to be funnier because I got the jokes. I got the jokes. I used to get sent to the principal's office
Starting point is 01:10:42 for ranking in school. That's how good I was. Oh, look, if you go to it, first of all, you can't go to an HBCU if you can't join. You got to be able to join. You got to. You got to. Listen. From the moment you walk into the student union, the student center, or the cafeteria,
Starting point is 01:11:04 because we got there at 11. We got there by 10.57. You walked in there at 11.01, it's over. They're going to get you. It's over. What? We have missed that in today's society with the issues and mental health
Starting point is 01:11:23 and all this other stuff going on. You can't even crack jokes no more like we want to because that stuff right there, that builds character. That builds character. What we do today in today's era,
Starting point is 01:11:33 in today's society with the kids growing up is we coddling them a little too much. A little too much. That ranking and having jokes and going back and forth, that builds character, man,
Starting point is 01:11:44 because when you get to the real world, later on in life, oh, man, it's... Everybody's going to be your friend. Man, shit. You need that. They got to bring that back. They got to bring that back.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Ocho, I'm afraid that ain't coming back. Ocho, they say, first of all, you're not going to be better than me with a mic in your hand because your mic is facing the other way. You got to turn your mic towards your mouth. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Well, pause. Now, tilt it up a little bit. Well, normally, so they couldn't hear me. I know they can hear me. But we're going to put the poll up. Who do you think would be funnier so they couldn't hear me. I know they can hear me. But they don't. Are we going to put the poll up? Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Who do you think would be funnier if we had 10 minutes to do on stage? Me or Ocho? Trust me, I'm going to win. Ocho. I'm going to blow the nose. Ocho, I guarantee you I'm going to blow the nose off you.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Trust me, I'm going to win that. Trust me, I'm going to win that. No chance. No chance. No chance, Ocho. You funny, but you not Ocho funny. There's a difference. There's levels. In life, there's levels to everything. Ocho, No chance. You funny, but you're not Ocho funny. There's a difference. There's levels. There's levels to everything.
Starting point is 01:12:47 I guarantee you, if you ask the people in the chat, I guarantee you they believe I can do this for real. I've done it on the biggest stage for real. Ocho, I'm beating you two to one. You know what? Ocho!
Starting point is 01:13:04 Come on, man. Ocho. Ocho, I just told you the joke. Icho. Come on, man. Ocho. Ocho. I just told you the joke. I just told you the joke with the Viagra. Now imagine if I went on stage and told that joke. Listen.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Listen, the kind of stand-up I would do you are not ready for. I can, I can, I can fill a stadium. I can fill a stadium.
Starting point is 01:13:21 That's how funny I am. That's the difference. Ocho, what does a comedian do? He takes real life situations and make them funny. That's your boy. And that's me. What you saying? That's me.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Ocho, you can't. Not with a comedy joke. I don't think you understand how difficult it is because you haven't done it. I've done it and understand the difficulty of having to do it and getting your jokes and your material off. It ain't easy like you think.
Starting point is 01:13:51 No. No. But we used to... Hey, look here. You know, I went to school with Red Grant. That motherfucker funny boy. I used to see Red at...
Starting point is 01:14:02 I forgot the name of the comedy show. It's off Sunset in LA. Red Grant, funny boy. I used to see Red at I forgot the name of the comedy show. It's off Sunset in LA. Red Grant funny boy. Yeah. He was a fullback on our team. Yeah. Red was a fullback. Red was a fullback.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Yeah. Red funny man. Yeah. We got 3,000 votes so far. They already know. Michael wants to know Messi or Ronaldo? You got to Yeah, real funny, man. Yeah. We got 3,000 votes so far. They already know. I'm looking below the nose on you. Michael wants to know, Messi or Ronaldo? You got to pick one. They know that. Everybody knows.
Starting point is 01:14:31 And he asked me that. He knows that. Messi, that bellendua. I mean. How many? How many? Has he won the world champ? Who got the world champ?
Starting point is 01:14:41 Listen, you can say what you want to. Who got the world champ? Who is this? That's Messi. I've been going to watch Messi for the past, what? I never missed El Clasico for maybe 12 years. I love him. I love Messi to death.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Messi is God-given. God said, you know what? When you born, you're going to be blessed. But I prefer Cristiano. I prefer Cristiano Ronaldo. Lionel. That's just...
Starting point is 01:15:16 That's what they say over there. We call him Lionel. How you say it? You know good where you go down south. I went to have a homeboy. Now, his name was Peter. He go off and come back, he Pierre. Man, you know your name been Peter your whole life. When you growing up, ain't nobody about to call you Pierre.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Wait, who you? I don't know where you get that from. You know about soccer? Or you just? I just know those two big guns. The real deal. The real deal. The real deal. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:47 I mean, I remember 86 when Maradona had the ball. Maradona. Yeah. Diego. And Messi. I mean, just think about it. To pass Maradona in Argentina. Well, first of all, you become a cult.
Starting point is 01:16:03 You win the World Cup in any country. Oh, it's a wrap. You become a cult. You win the World Cup in any country. Oh, it's a wrap. You become a cult. Yeah, it's over. You know, Brazil, when you get Ronaldo, you get, you know, you had because Pele
Starting point is 01:16:11 started it off. And then all these, you know, they go by one name. Yeah. So you win the, like, Pele, I mean,
Starting point is 01:16:20 until, as great as Messi was, he wasn't going to pass Maradona because Maradona had that World Cup. Okay. Okay. Yeah, you... Okay, I see you.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Soccer's my first love, man. Soccer's my first love. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, you know, you know, that's what I do. That's what I do that's what i do but all i'm saying all i'm saying is that the fact that the people the people what they said
Starting point is 01:16:50 they said uh 67 percent oh 33 you know what that's the goddamn something something they they wrong in their head they don't they don't know they don't know listen for one i'm the greatest entertainer that ever played in the goddamn nfl They don't know. They don't know. They don't know. They don't know. Listen, for one, I'm the greatest entertainer that ever played in the goddamn NFL. And they think you're going to be better than me in comedy? That ain't what the voters say. They had you 18. I am, will ever, forever be, indebted, cemented, the greatest entertainer of all time ever.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Ever. 4,000. Every time you talk, we get another 1,000 votes. And I'm getting a little high. You didn't hear what I said, huh? You can't see me. The greatest entertainer ever. You know what, Ocho? They said, someone asked, they donated money.
Starting point is 01:17:40 They said, okay, Shannon, we're going to take away your three rings. Who had the better career you or ocho i don't even know my goddamn stats you know my stats they're not mine i know i know but once i finish football it's like i don't i'm i don't even know my stats ocho i tell you what you didn't know who has the most consecutive playoff wins in NFL history individually or a team? Individually
Starting point is 01:18:12 this person has more consecutive playoff wins than anybody in the 100 plus year history of NFL now you won't bet nothing try again who is it? Janish?
Starting point is 01:18:27 You're looking at it. That wasn't an individual accomplishment. That was a team accomplishment. That don't really count. Now you want the team. That don't really count. But guess what? I left one team
Starting point is 01:18:44 and went to another team. And did it again. Again, that was your supporting cast. I would like to... Your supporting cast was able to help with achieving that great feat. You want to know what? What receiver...
Starting point is 01:18:59 Listen to me. What receiver led the AFC four years in a row? Four years in a what? Four years in a what? In what? Offside? Probably you. There's only two receivers
Starting point is 01:19:11 that have ever led the AFC in yards four years in a row. Who are the two receivers that have done it? Not you? Who are the two receivers that have done it? AFC, let me see.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Who in the AFC went to a bunch of bowls I'm listening AB AFC Bengals Browns Paul Warfield Chad Johnson
Starting point is 01:19:44 when do you leave Bengals, Browns. Paul Warfield. Chad Johnson. When did you lead the LCA receiver? I did it once. I did it once. No, I did it four times in a row. Wait, I'm saying it wrong. No, you didn't. I'm saying it wrong. No.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Hey, well, I mean. You ain't lead no L. You ain't lead. Ain't nobody led in the consecutive four consecutive years. Wait, I forgot what it was. It's something me and Jerry Rice did. See, you ain't lead. Ain't nobody led in the consecutive. I forgot what it was. Something me and Jerry Rice did. See, I don't know. None of I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:08 None of my football stuff. Me and Jerry Rice are the only one. I know I'm four years in a row. No, I'm serious. I ain't lying. I ain't lying. I just don't. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Don't worry about it. It's a lot. Shoot. Them stats don't lie. Keith Oliver asks, did you have any pregame rituals? Yes. I woke up at the same time.
Starting point is 01:20:36 I ate the same thing for pregame for 13 years. I ate French toast with no syrup. I had egg whites, oatmeal. That was it. With a banana and water. That was my pregame meal. I normally got to the stadium.
Starting point is 01:21:00 I called the early, early bus. So I was at the stadium probably four and a half hours five hours before I normally got to the game we played it we played it at two I got to the stadium probably right 945 and we had to be at the stadium by noon
Starting point is 01:21:17 I normally got there by 945 my I had three packs a big red put in my locker five five sticks to a pack I had three packs a big red put in my locker five sticks to a pack I had one, two, three, four six Tylenol
Starting point is 01:21:34 put in my locker running back socks oh yeah everything yeah everything and I had Oh, yeah, everything, yeah. Everything I had. And I had... Three blueberry cake donuts, three chocolate chip cake donuts from Dunkin' Donuts.
Starting point is 01:21:55 You got too much going on, man. I had to have it. That's too much. And guess what? And Mike Shanahan made sure his 84 locker straight. Because I go tell on them. If they have that thing,
Starting point is 01:22:10 you're right. I tell Mike. That's too much. I mean, I had my routine, obviously, whether I was playing home or away, was my McDonald's, hotcakes with sausage,
Starting point is 01:22:21 sauce, saving muffin, large OJ. That's my routine. I always also, I caught the first bus. I caught the first bus. I had, once I got to the stadium, whether we were playing home or whether,
Starting point is 01:22:31 obviously you drive. I mean, whether, yeah, we drove when it was home, but whether we were away, I had no routine once I got there. I just got there. I like to get to the stadium early, go out there and walk the field,
Starting point is 01:22:43 walk the field early. No, no, Ocho. Man, let me tell you what happened. You know, when I first got to the stadium early, go out there and walk the field, walk the field early. No, no, Ocho. Man, let me tell you what happened. You know, when I first got to the NFL, you know, everybody would go out there. You know, I never did that in college. So I always came to the locker room. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:56 No. So I see everybody else going out there. I'm like, well, you know what? I'm going to go out there too. How about I go out there and on a punt team, I get knocked out? How you got knocked out? I went to make a tackle and got a guy
Starting point is 01:23:11 knee me in the head. Knee me in the side of the head. Oh yeah, concussion, concussion. Yeah. Ooh. Ow. That was it. I went out there
Starting point is 01:23:21 to see my brother. We played each other. We played each other in 90. Right. 90. Right. 90. Because they came to Denver. And we played them again in 93.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Went to Green Bay. But, and Ocho, here's the thing. When we were at home, we stayed in the hotel night before a game. There's normally three elevator doors. I had to press the button and go stand in front of the elevator door that I thought was going to open.
Starting point is 01:23:51 And I had to do that until I got it right. So I might be there. I might get it one time. Now, if I got it the first, if I, oh, oh, Joe, if I hit that button and I went and stood
Starting point is 01:24:02 in front of the door and that door opened, oh, it was open. Whoever we played was getting a hundred piece on them. They were getting a hundred piece. But sometimes it might take me five, six, ten minutes. But I had to do it. I had to.
Starting point is 01:24:17 I could not leave that hotel until I hit that button, stood in front of the door that was going to open. Yep. And I was good. So you were superstitious? Was I? Ocho, we went on the road. We played the Chargers. We played Kansas City.
Starting point is 01:24:37 We kind of stayed in the same hotel. We won that game. I'm getting that same hotel. I stayed in the same hotel room. Mike came in 95. We started staying at the Inverness. I had the same hotel room
Starting point is 01:24:53 probably for like seven years. I left. When I left, so from 95 through 99, I had the same hotel room. I come back. somebody else got it. I was like, Micah, I can't stay here. He's like, what's wrong, 84?
Starting point is 01:25:10 I say, somebody got my room. Had to get up out of there. You're doing too much, man. That was overdoing it. You was overdoing it. Once you put the work in throughout the week, the results are going to show up regardless of what you do that you may be superstitious of.
Starting point is 01:25:31 That mind. That mind. Ocho, I walked on the field. I was invincible because my mind told me that. I believe I'm better than the dude across from me. I got to win that one-on-one battle. That's the battle that I'm fighting. Well.
Starting point is 01:25:48 I believed it. I ain't believe it. I knew it. And I walked and I talked it the week before and still went out there and did it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:58 But you know what? When Trav is doing a great job and he going to end up big. But when they start flashing the numbers up there, they say, well, okay, Travis Kelsey trails Shannon Sharp with this or Shannon Sharp has that. I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 01:26:13 You know, like you said, Ochoa, I've been retired almost two decades. I'm like, I put that work in like that on the move. Make you feel good about yourself, huh? Yeah, you a good day. Dropping, you know, 180s, 170s, 200s, 160s.
Starting point is 01:26:29 I told you, you was that boy, man. I ain't gonna lie to you. You was that boy. There was one time in my prime, in my prime, just one season
Starting point is 01:26:40 in today's game, I want seven. I don't want these eight. Y'all, Mahomes got a nothing but respect. Aaron Rodgers, all these guys, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, give me seven. One year in my prime. With seven?
Starting point is 01:26:56 I guarantee you, whatever the tight end record receiving is in a season, I go get it. Look who calling my phone. Who calling? Hold on. So that means she ain't watching the show. Hey! Go ahead, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Go ahead. Hold on, hold on. I'm talking about, she should be in the bed. Am I still filming? I'm trying to figure out how you, how you supposed to be my number one, my number one fan,
Starting point is 01:27:28 my number one supporter, like my all in all, my everything, my huckleberry to my fin. And I'm on the show and you sleep. You, you tired, you tired from what?
Starting point is 01:27:44 The baby? Well, you know what? the baby? well you know what if you wasn't as fast as you was and had your legs oh I mean excuse me we got people listening you wouldn't have had no child
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Starting point is 01:28:02 tell all our hey is that a sidekick you got a sidekick is that a sidekick oh okay okay okay i thought you had a sidekick baby yeah people people can hear you oh hey um oh that she said the doctor her friend the doctor slid into your DM. The doctor. See, I think she want to work on you. Huh? Oh, all right. Hey. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Yeah, she had a doctorate degree. Yeah, you got you a small one on your hands over there. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? I guess we're going to have two daughters in the family because my daughter is going to be a daughter matter of fact baby make sure you turn on the show right now and subscribe and give us $100 right now and we ain't going to finish
Starting point is 01:28:52 the show until you give us $100 and tell your friend to give us a subscribe to the show also and get $50 tell her to tell her friend to subscribe to our show also. Wait, say it again, Uncle? And get $50. Tell her to tell her friend to subscribe to our show
Starting point is 01:29:07 and get $50. Tell your doctor friend. It's sponsored. Oh. It gives $1,000 to $5,000. Oh. She said she's going to tell her business to sponsor us and give us $1,000.
Starting point is 01:29:24 No, her business to give us a sponsor to a thousand to five thousand. Okay. Thank you. We appreciate it. We got to finish the show. Vision made. Clearly, he's from Linville. She ain't even supporting.
Starting point is 01:29:39 She's sleeping. Shit, I'm mad. Well, she's supporting in spirit. Vision May 24. Hen House Chicken or Hardee's Chicken? Glenville. Hen House. Up road.
Starting point is 01:29:56 See, I go back. I go back when the Doublies, they used to own. Now, I don't know who owned the Hen House now, but I remember the Doublies. They used to ride the school bus with us. They were twins, Timmy and Tommy. And they had a younger brother named Tony. Their parents ran the hen house.
Starting point is 01:30:12 I don't know who owns it now or who runs it now, but the hen house. But the last time I've been, I was in Glenville, which was a long time ago. I had that Crippie chick. I don't know if you know anything about Crippie chick. Crippie? Crippie? Oh, Crippie. Yeah I don't know if you know anything about Crippie chick. Crippie? Crippie? Oh, Crippie. Yeah, I go to churches in Miami.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Churches, churches, chicken. I'll get number one. Churches, chicken. I'll have number one. Hot. Straight out of Greece. I knew about that. Straight out of Greece.
Starting point is 01:30:39 I never forget. Try hard, seven game, Ocho. He say, your flowers. He say, I see Ocho in an NFL commercial with an Oscar-worthy performance. Let's see you in some blockbuster movies soon, Ocho DiCaprio. Yeah, it's coming. It's coming. As a matter of fact, I got something that works right
Starting point is 01:30:54 now. I don't know if I'm allowed to say this. Doug, I'm not sure if you're going to be mad or not, but I'm going to let the world know anyway. I got something coming out, man. Me and Denzel working on a nice movie, man. Hopefully, all that pans out and I can win my first Oscar. something coming out man me and denzel working on a working on a nice movie man so um hopefully all that pans out and i can win my first my first oscar yeah yeah that's always been a dream of mine to be on the big screen because my grandma always told me you go grandma always told me boy
Starting point is 01:31:14 you're gonna name your dog oscar you're gonna name your dog you got a cat no no listen listen i'm i'm working on a movie with denzel. I'm one of the main characters. One of the main characters. And I really can't disclose too much information. But I'm hoping, I'm hoping that everything pans out the way it should and I can win my first Oscar. I hope so, too. That'd be something special.
Starting point is 01:31:38 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be real nice. That's going to put us on the map, Ochoa. Hey, boy. Hey, Ochoa. Boy, we already on the map now. Oh, yeah. We on the map. People be talking on the map Ocho well we already on the map now
Starting point is 01:31:45 oh yeah we on the map people be talking about us Ocho people be talking about us I got dudes that are all the way
Starting point is 01:31:51 over in Europe in the middle of they Premier League season talking about man we enjoying you and Ocho they are I got my soccer
Starting point is 01:31:58 friends they watching us they watching us now I got my soccer friends watching us we doing big things Ocho hey we finna be global we ain't finna play they watching this man I got my soccer friends watching this we do a big thing we finna be global
Starting point is 01:32:08 we ain't finna play we finna be global one thing about word of mouth spread boy spread boy I'm telling you we gonna be global there's three different ways you can get there's three ways that you can really get some
Starting point is 01:32:26 information out fast. Man, one man television. And we doing it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. We going places. We going places. So guess what? I'm about to sign off and I'm going to go upstairs and go to sleep
Starting point is 01:32:41 because I got to get on first thing tomorrow. Hold on just a second. Thank you guys. How many subscribers we get? Do we get an additional thousand? We got 3,000. We got 3,000 subs just while we were doing
Starting point is 01:32:58 this show tonight. It did. Everybody watching right now. Are they subscribed? Tell them, make sure they hit that button. Make sure. I tell you what, do what them, make sure they hit that button. Yeah, but... Make sure... I tell you what, do what we're going to do, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Yeah. In the next five minutes, if we get 1,000 subs, we're going to give away 2,500. We're going to give away 2,500. We will give five people 1,000 in the next five minutes. Yeah, I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Oh, don't forget, we got our song tonight, man. I ain't been practicing. I've been dancing today, Ocho. Hey, before we go, okay, we're going to do it. Thank you for watching Nightcap. Guys, hey before we go okay we're gonna do it thank you for watching Nightcap guys you made this thing
Starting point is 01:33:48 very very special we're growing at an alarming rate please make sure you click that subscribe button make sure you click that like button tell your family
Starting point is 01:33:56 your friends your loved ones that Unc and Ocho will be the hottest show on digital and we're only gonna get bigger and you guys
Starting point is 01:34:04 are getting in early so you're going to get an opportunity to say, hey, before they even blew up, before they was on wherever they was at, before they had 2 million, 10 million subs, I was there. I was one of the first ones and that doesn't go unnoticed. We really appreciate your support because without you
Starting point is 01:34:20 there is no nightcap. Without you, there is no Shannon on first take. Without you, there is no nightcap. Without you, there is no Shannon on first take. Without you, there is no Ocho on inside the NFL. So thank you for there's absolutely no Club Shea Shea without you guys. So I want to say thank you and I want to say thank you for Ocho
Starting point is 01:34:36 because you guys make what we do possible and you make it worthwhile. So please make sure you click that subscribe button. Make sure you click that like button. Are we getting to that magic number because we're about we're about to give away we're about to give away give five people i'm coming up on the rough side of the mountain i'm doing my Doing my best to make it in. Rel just donated a Hyundai. Ask Rel what you want us to talk about.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Hey, Rel, what you want us to talk about, baby? I appreciate you. Thank you for supporting me. We got less than a minute to go. You was home sleeping and woke up and called my show, called me in the middle of my job, and I had to pick up because you sleep. The baby was running you ragged
Starting point is 01:35:27 and you was tired. What you thought was going to happen when you got pregnant? Huh? Well, you supposed to be home to help out. You supposed to be home to help out. I got to work.
Starting point is 01:35:41 I got to work. You know, hey, you see, hey, you see how your boy be working I'm trying to get you to get me on first take so I can get another job and diversify my portfolio how about that Ocho they got your boy working
Starting point is 01:35:56 Ocho your boy I'm tying like a one leg man in the ass kicking contest you know what I'm saying Ocho that between me and you now Ocho Ocho we That between me and you, now. That between me and you. Ocho, Ocho, we about to have to give away $2,500, Ocho. What we looking like?
Starting point is 01:36:11 We seven, five, four, three. What you counting on? I can't see. We just got a thousand subs. So we got to give away $2,500. We got to give five people $5,000. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:36:26 I'm finna pay back. I'm finna send you my money. I'm gonna send you what? What I gotta send you, what? $1,200? $1,250. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You got Apple Pay?
Starting point is 01:36:38 Hey, Ocho. I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. Ocho, let me tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put mine on a running account. If I don't run up and pay you, don't run up and ask me for it. How do we make sure these people get their money, man? I want to make sure they get their money.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Oh, don't trust me. They get their money. Hey, hey, hey. They get their money. Hey, hey, hey. Because they come out of my pocket. Lil' Tank got his money from yesterday? Yeah, Lil' Tank got his money.
Starting point is 01:37:05 Ocho, let me tell you what they tried to do, Ocho. Once they found out Lil Tank had won, everybody went and changed their profile to Lil Tank. Boy, ain't we something. Ocho, ain't we something, Ocho. Man, we had 500 Lil Tanks. How did you find out who the original was we had to do some searching
Starting point is 01:37:30 that's funny man come on let's roll with people man come on y'all come on people appreciate that $100 real we got them we got the five okay we got the five Ocho so make sure hold on hello ash they got to make sure okay magdalene lamar maurice hick, Danielle Kenda, Eduardo Tapia, Darius Robertson.
Starting point is 01:38:10 You guys each just won 500 bucks. Courtesy of Nightcap. Y'all appreciate it. I love y'all. Again, thank you for clicking that subscribe button. But get us the 300K. By the time we go on the air on Thursday, we're going to give 20 people $500. Nobody else doing this.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Get us the 300K. Nobody else doing this. Not only we going to give you good content, we going to give you good stories, we going to talk football, we going to talk sports, we going to drop gems, give you life experiences.
Starting point is 01:38:46 And before you leave, not only are you getting great content you got a chance to walk out of here with money you know why because the holiday is coming up and you know you never know we might do something special might do especially for the December uh Ocho and I got to put our heads together and see what we can come up with because we want to show you that we really appreciate the support that you've given us because you guys make it possible. You guys, everything that
Starting point is 01:39:17 we've been able to put together on this platform, Club Shea Shea, Nightcap, the way you supported me on First Take, the way you supported me on first take the way you supported Ocho around inside the NFL we want to show you
Starting point is 01:39:32 again if you're one of these if you're one of these five people excuse me Magdalene Lamar Maurice Hickman Danielle Kendall Eduardo Tapia Darius Robertson. Make sure you drop your email or IG and we'll get in touch with you.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Do that for us and $500 on the way. Thank you for subscribing, for clicking that subscribe button. Make sure you click that like button. We greatly appreciate it. Ocho, we got to come up with a song that you and I both... We got to come up with a song for Thursday because I got to get to go.
Starting point is 01:40:12 No song tonight? Thursday? No song tonight because the tent is closed down. I'm going to let you slack. You got to get up in the morning. We got something coming on Thursday. Text me. Let me know the song so I can go ahead and rehearse it.
Starting point is 01:40:28 All right, I got you. So I can make sure I nail it. I got you. Thank you again for clicking that subscribe button. Thank you for tuning in. The 19,000, 20,000 that watched us live, thank you so very much. Be back on Thursday.
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