Nightcap - Nightcap - Lakers Dominate, Marvin Harrison's Decision, Dogs In the Bed

Episode Date: December 8, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the LeBron and the Los Angeles Lakers dominating New Orleans Pelicans in the semifinal round of the NBA In-Season Tournament, the New England Patriots beating Pittsburgh Steelers 21-18 on Thursday Night Football, whether Marvin Harrison Jr. should go to the NFL Draft or stay at Ohio State, & much more!00:00 - Introduction03:00 -Lakers beat Pelicans24:00 - Patriots beat Steelers27:00 - Marvin's next move50:00 - Fast Food prison sentence59:00 - Ocho the Stripper1:17:00 - Unc's fancy dog bed1:30:00 - Much more Nightcap! #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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With the holidays right around the corner, make sure you go ahead and order yourself one or a bottle for someone special. Ocho, we're going to do something a little different tonight. We're going to start with the Lakers at Pelicans. The Lakers dominate the Pels 133-89. LeBron James, 30 points, eight assists, five rebounds on 75% field goals, 100% from the three-point line, 100% from the free-throw line.

And he did that in 22 and a half minutes. Let that sink in for a second. The man is, what, probably less than three weeks away from his 39th birthday, and he scored 30 points in a game, the quickest in franchise history. It's the quickest someone has scored. Think about all the great players that have donned that Lakers uniform. Kobe, Magic, Shaq, Wilt, Micah. Oh, okay, A.D. Pau Gasol.

James Worthy. Who's the other guy? Connie, not Connie. Connie, who was that? Played with Jerry West. Yeah. Elgin Baylor. That's who it was.

Elgin Baylor. Right. Nobody has scored 30 points in a Laker uniform faster than what LeBron James did last tonight. And the man is 38 years of age, you know, watch this game. What was some of your takeaway from the game? Oh,

Joe. I mean, obviously my takeaway was obviously LeBron, you know, it's a testament to what he's done and how he's taking care of his body throughout the years. And I heard some comments that he made about father time being undefeated. And he's one to be the first one to give Father Time his loss based on his performance tonight in such a short amount of time in a game that is of some significance, being that the money that is on the line.

Unbelievable. I mean, words can't describe. There's a reason he has the chosen one tattooed on him. There's a reason why we call him the king, you know, and he's living up to the hype. He's lived up to the hype and exceeded the expectations since he came out of high school, entering the NBA. He is 38 years old, getting ready to be 39 and doing things that 20 some year olds do on a consistent basis. The funny thing about it is most of the time, as you get older, you have your ups and your downs, you know, you decline a little bit, you know, you get to see small discrepancies

in your game. Nothing. There is, I haven't seen a weakness in LeBron's game to this point. And for him to be able to be able to play at a high level this late in the game, getting ready to be 39 is unbelievable. Unbelievable. And then the question to me, it comes in, is it the fact that he is such an imposing figure that he's that much more physically gifted than everybody else? Is he the best dribbler there is? Is he the best shooter there is. No, I think he just all around probably the best basketball player I've ever witnessed in general. And I don't even watch the game of basketball like that. Just based on the little bit that I do know,

he is fucking great at what he does. I think the biggest thing Ocho is that when you look at it, your best players are your hardest workers. Let's take the NBA, Michael Jordan, one of your hardest workers, Kobe Bryant, one of your the NBA. Michael Jordan, one of your hardest workers. Kobe Bryant, one of your hardest workers. Larry Bird, one of your hardest workers.

Magic Johnson, one of your hardest workers. You go to football, you look at the Peyton Manning, you look at the Tom Brady's, you look at the guys that were talented. Now, when we look at quarterbacks, we don't look at them as talented, but their mind is one thing. But to stay on top of that and to continuously work there is really

no off season for those guys because they're spending countless hours even breaking down tape when there's no game to play on sunday right and so i think that's the biggest thing with lebron let yes i mean six nine 260 pounds and he's able i mean he has calm alone body but he can handle the ball like a Magic Johnson. God didn't create very many of those. That's a one-of-one. You know, like the Mona Lisa, that's a one-of-one. The Sistine Chapel, that's a one-of-one.

LeBron James is a one-of-one. But the amount of money and the amount of time and the amount of energy that he spends on his body and the time that he spends to be great. Because the thing that I tell people all the time, when you are a great player and you start to age, they don't compare you to great players that you're playing against. Now they compare you to your younger self. Yes. That's what they do with the greatest. That's when you know, you're great. When they compare you at 38 to when you was 27 to when you was 30 and that's what they do with LeBron. And you're absolutely right.

And I'm not saying that I was a great player like LeBron, but in my sphere, as I started to age, Ocho, what I couldn't do is to give you the back-to-back 100, 125, touchdown, two touchdown games. I could give you one in September, might throw another one in there in Octoberober might get you two in november but if i skip november best believe one was coming in december i just couldn't give you those games back to back to back to back but lebron james if you look at him ocho i mean he's averaging 26 27 points a game and he's shooting at him

he's shooting at a higher percentage than he's ever shot before. At 38, he can still get to the basket. He can still locomotive. But the jump shot, it seems like it's a little purer. Tonight, he was perfect from the three-point line. And it was him because they got off to the fast start. The Pelicans will it down. They come up.

They take a lead. He checks back in the game in the second quarter. It was a wrap. He took off. They come up. They take a lead. He checks back into the game in the second quarter. It was a wrap. He took off. He took off. But he hears. See, the thing with people, when athletes say, I don't even listen to the media. You might not, but guess what?

You got a homeboy that does. Your wife, a significant other, does. Your parents don't. So he heard what they said. Oh, I think B.I. and Zion are a duo than than A.D. and LeBron. I think Zion has a high upside at this stage. Bro, you don't get great without being able to draw down and summons it up. Right. Because when you tell me somebody better than me, I got to show you that they're not.

Right. That's crazy. So and also I have another question. Like the playing tournament, they're playing extremely well. Obviously, the Lakers have to play the Pacers coming up. You know, when they play, you know, when they play, they play Saturday. OK, you know, you know, Vegas ain't that far from L.A. Yeah, there's strong possibilities. Strong, strong, strong possibilities. I'll be there. You going?

You got two tickets? Hell, I don't even know if I got one yet. Okay, okay. Let me know. I'll wait for it. You and John over there too? I mean, yeah. You know, they got a spare flight for two.

I already looked it up. They got a spare flight for $234 and I can get there. I got to make a stop, but I ain't worried about making no stop as long as I get there. May the spirit of the Lord be with you on that flight. What I wanted to ask you though, from a basketball standpoint, obviously with them being in playing and LeBron

playing to the magnitude that he is, he at his age, do you think he can keep that up or will AD at some point have to come in and do what LeBron said at the beginning saying, this is his team. This is his team. At what point will AD play like that and stop the inconsistent rollercoaster week in and week out and provide some type of consistency where, you know what, LeBron can take a night off and AD can take over and get that 26, 26, 11 and five or whatever it is whatever it is he he should

be doing as good as he is i think the thing is oh joe is that what we've seen is that we look at the lakers just this year not going back any further than just this year there's a different team when lebron's on the court than when he's not right it's just remember how i said a great quarterback gives you that comfort level that you don't hope you expect? That's what he does. He's the calming effect. He's the medicine. No matter how helter-skelter it gets,

no matter how big a lead the opposing team got, well, we got that guy. And we know he can catch fire. And we saw him tonight hit three threes in a row, drive the basketball. And now everybody's like, hold on. He can do that? We know he. Drive the basketball. And now everybody's like, hold on. He can do that? We know he can drive the basketball. We know he can get down on the block and

command the ball. But now he's shooting threes. What chance do we got? Because if we hug up on him, he's going to go by us. If we lay off on him, he's going to shoot the three on us. And he had eight assists. And no turnovers. So now, not only is he scoring,

he's making it easier for everybody else to score. You look at AD, 16 and 15. Austin Reed, 17, 5, 17, 5 and 7. Torian Prince, 15 points. 5 of 8 from 3. D'Lo, 14 points. Rui, 12 points. When you get that kind of balanced scoring

and you can get LeBron to go for 30 and he doesn't even seem to work up a sweat. Now, it's not going to be easy because I don't know if you watched the earlier game I watched the I watched uh Indiana take apart I mean they took them apart the Bucks and the Bucks got you know we know what they got they got Greek freak and they got Dame Lillard but Hallie Tyrese Halliburton is on another planet yeah because not only is he giving you 27, 30 points on a nightly basis, he's giving you 13, 14 assists on a nightly basis and, and minimal turnovers.

We've seen guys give you 12, 13 assists, but they somehow sprinkling four or five, six turnovers. He had 15 to 16 assists tonight, zero turnovers. The same thing the other night. So when you get that kind of point total, you get that kind of assist total and the guy isn't turning the ball over, they're going to be hard to beat. They're going to be hard to beat and they play at a pace because they're

young. Oh, you remember when you were young, you could run all day. Well, get back outside and play. Okay. Oh, stop playing with that damn screen though. What's wrong with you? Right. But you right. Oh's wrong with you right but you right oh you right back outside you run how many games could you run if you play basketball we play basketball i can run 10 8 9 10 games all day all day we play football we running up and up and down in the fields and we running up and down the road when you young you can do that and that's what they got them young gun them young legs over there

so the lakers are gonna have to be careful or not to get in a up and down game with these young guys now the thing is they got to slow the game down and basically nobody can slow the pace down like lebron lebron's gonna make you play at his pace if he wants to get up and down he will get up and down he will if you don't give me the ball and you're going to play, hey, we're going to play in the half court set. And that's what you have to do to beat a team like this. But let me tell you something, Ocho. This is what I've learned in

taking the temperature of social media. Now, you know the play-in tournament ain't going to mean anything if LeBron win it. Kind of like the bubble championship. Now, if somebody else had... Why didn't it mean anything? If they haven't a playing tournament, they haven't a playing tournament for a reason. Because

it's LeBron. We've got to find another way to minimize anything that he accomplished. Remember when he won the bubble? Oh, the bubble. Oh, so what did he... What advantage did he have? What advantage did he have that the other teams didn't have?

They found out, okay, we're going to play. We're going to, hey, we're going to have a championship. We're going to go down to Orlando because the circumstances require us to be in a quarantine setting. Right. Hey, everybody's going to go down there. You're going to get quarantined, and you're going to be in this bubble. Everybody's going to have to stay down here.

Hey, when you lose, you're gone. But as long as you win, you can. So everybody was under the same situation. Oh, but it's cubic zirconia. Now, the moment if LeBron James were to win this, oh man, that wasn't worth nothing. Right. But if somebody else win it, oh, Kobe would have won.

Jordan would have won. This one would have won. Right, right, right. You got to do whatever you can to try to minimize the man's greatness. But because he's been great for so long, and not just great, we're talking about historically. We're talking about transcendent

or transcendental. That's how great he's been. We got to try to, instead of appreciating him, and sometimes we don't really appreciate things until it's gone. We've all been in relationships. We took advantage of that person's kindness and even what she was doing or what he was doing. And then when they left, you realize how special that person was.

Everybody isn't necessarily replaceable because we have that mindset. Oh, I just go find me someone else. No, it ain't like that. And the funny thing about it, and it goes in not just relationships, just in life and journey where you meet people, friends, sometimes even family. And when it comes to sports figures, sports figures like LeBron,

or you think of the Jerry Rices and you see some of the great quarterbacks, you think those players are replaceable. There are other great players will come along, but those type of players, you have to appreciate them while you're here because what LeBron is doing and what LeBron has done- You may never see it again.

You may never see anything like that again. Now, you might get some close. You might get some phenoms. You might get some unbelievable freaks of nature that play the game of basketball, but what he has been able to accomplish since reaching the NBA, coming out of high school, I don't think we'll ever see anything to that magnitude, especially this consistent for so long. But here's the thing. Normally guys that played this long, they were big, Kareem. They were Robert Parrish. There was Kevin Willis. There was Dirk Nowitzki. They weren't athletic like LeBron. They weren't required to run the show like LeBron. You look at BC, Ben Carter, although he played a long time,

most of these guys came off the bench. LeBron James is a starter. He's playing 33 to 35 minutes on a nightly basis. Some nights, he's playing 38 to 40 minutes on a nightly basis. And he's giving you 27. He ain't giving you seven. He ain't giving you seven he ain't giving you two he's just not well i'm just holding on he's playing at a level just i didn't tell you

his age you wouldn't know his age it's the situation oh we were talking about everything is replaceable i i remember uh my aunt i ain't gonna say her name rest her soul but uh she broke up with her boyfriend and my my grandmother really liked this guy gotta go to church he picked my aunt up take her bring her when she needs something he would get it she broke up with him and uh my grandma said well i don't know why you broke up with him she said mama they planted fish in the sea my granny said yeah but you might not catch them but that's a good one that's a good one and you know i know so that happened to a lot of people especially a lot of women that feel that is one thing about it i'm just short tidbit really to bounce off bounce off

what we're talking about about people being replaceable and always thinking with women sometimes when women are with certain individuals you get so much attention from other men. You get so much attention from other men, you lose sight of what you got at home sometimes. And the funny thing about it is everybody wants you. Everybody wants you when you're not their responsibility. Everybody loves you when they're not your responsibility. And the minute you free, the minute you free up

and you can become his responsibility, oh, no, they don't want you no more. They don't want you no more. Uh-uh. Ocho, and I'm not telling you

something someone told me. I'm telling you what I know. Nothing makes you feel better than a new set of eyes. You see, when she's looking at you, it doesn't feel the same. Is it the woman walking across the street and she turned back and look at you

or she don't, and she gave you that smile. How you doing? There's nothing like that. And so you have to be careful because I've been in situation is that I'm, I'm like, Oh, okay. You think your boy like all them? Yeah. You like 250 built like a brick outhouse. Yeah.

But the same thing that the one that you're with is telling you, it doesn't sound as good to the ears as the one over there. The funny thing about it is like, man, this is so funny me and real we talked about this earlier today it's so funny when you tell you when you when real tell the kids something over and over and over and over and over and over and the fact that they always

hear a voice and always hear a voice they listen but they don't do it right away but then when they hear from somebody else that you don't hear from all the time, and I got to say it one time, and it get done right away. It's somewhat of the same concept and same analogy. When you're hearing it from the same person all the time, hearing it from your man, and I'm just being honest, when you're hearing it from your man and hearing it from your girlfriend or your boyfriend, oh, you look good. Oh, you look beautiful in that dress. Oh, you look gorgeous today. But to hear it from a different voice that you don't hear from all the time, it hits different. No matter what anybody says,

it just does. It's human nature. It's natural. There's no need to, to, to, to shy from it. I mean,

it just, it is what it is. My kids just say, well, daddy, all you, all you, you keep complaining.

You keep asking us to do stuff over and over. I said, I wouldn't nag you if you did it the first time. It only becomes nagging because I got to ask your ass over and over. Over and over, yeah. But then I got to the point that I realized my kids really is like their moms. I don't know what it is because my voice projects. It carries.

And so when I say something the first time. It'll get done. The first time it's thunder. The next time, the first time is thunder. The next time was lightning. Right, right. So I ain't finna keep telling you. I ain't finna tongue wrestle with you all night. I tell you one time, that's it.

Right. So because my grandkids always say, boy, you never ration with a child. You never have to explain yourself to a child. You told the child to do something. That's it. Well, why? Boy, my grandfather would lose his mind. Hearing why?

What? A child asked a question to an adult? Why are we going here? Why are we doing this? Why we got to eat that? Mary Porter didn't play that. And if

granny said something, it was the same as Papa said something because we already know. If Papa ever came home and Granny said, Barney, you know them boys, it was over. It wasn't no question to ask Mary,

what did they do? What did they say? Barney, you know them boys ain't? It's over. If he came home and one of them girls, Barney ain't play that. So I learned early on to do something right the first time and so whether he said it or she said it it didn't matter it was all coming from one and there was no well go ask your granny if if he said go ask mary granny and she said no don't go back to him because he's an

earshot it meant no and she said well i don't know you need to go ask you need to go ask barney i mean why would i even go back to grant if he said no right you already know what it is they were they were they were in straight lines with that. So the Lakers advanced to the first ever in-season tournament. The winner will get $500,000, which is a lot of money to a lot of these guys. Now, LeBron James, LeBron James is doing like $130 million

owning off the court. $500,000. But it's the fact it's a competition. When I shoot pool, when I roll dice, I'm rolling dice. I used to roll dice with guys. Bro, what is $20 to me if I hit a lick?

Nothing. But the fact is competition. Competition. I got to win. And I don't want you to beat me. Right. So that's how these guys looking at it. Some of these guys, excuse me, you know, making $50, $60 million, they're going to do nothing.

But what about the guy that's on a non-guaranteed contract? Yeah. What about the guy that's on a two-way contract? Yeah. $500,000 is going to do a lot for him. A lot. Yeah. Yeah.

And so now you're thinking about it because that's how we thought we go into the playoffs. Now, all of a sudden, guys get in that pool. So now the practice squad guys, they're going to get salaries for an extra week or an extra two weeks or an extra three weeks or they're going to get part of the Super Bowl money, the playoff money. I thought about things like that.

The coaches, now all of a sudden, they get some of that playoff money. Because they're not, you're not making, I mean, unless you're Coach Belichick

or Pete Carroll, some of these coaches that's making $7, $8, $10, $15 million. But for the most part, not when I was playing at Ochoa. Guys, coaches didn't make that kind of bread. So that was good. And so I thought about that.

And plus, the workers, the trainers, the equipment staff, now all of a sudden, you know, because we always took up money and, you know, I always gave a large sum of money because I appreciated them. And I know that's their job is to, if you're an athletic trainer, take my ankles to make sure I'm healthy and get back on the field. I understand the equipment manager

is to make sure my uniform is clean and un-up in my locker and all of that stuff. And I understood it was a janitor, the custodial services and the people that prepare. I got all of that, Ocho. I understood that. But it was just something in me because I was fortunate.

God looked down on me and said, you know what? I'm going to be a football player and I'm going to give you discipline. I'm going to give you determination. I'm going to give you dedication. Right. But in return for that, I need you to pay it back. And so that's how I thought about it. That's

just me. Now, everybody, I mean, some people give $40 something and I'm like, just give what you can. Right. Just give what you can. Just give what you can. But, you know, the guys that made, you know, we was making $3, $4 million back then. What's $5,000, what's $10,000 to a guy that's making that kind of money? You right.

You right. The Patriots beat the Steelers 21-18. It's the first time in NFL history the Steelers, which is a team that was 500 or better, have lost consecutive weeks to teams that was under 500 by at least eight games. Yeah. In the second start of the season, Bailey Zappi completed 19 of 28 passes, 240 yards, three touchdowns, one interception.

He made some plays for the Patriots that we haven't seen their quarterbacks make this year. But the team didn't score in the second half and only had one drive the game more than 20 yards Steelers in it what when you watch this game oh Joe what do you take away from it my when I watch the game I want to I try to understand for the life of me how was Mac Jones starting this long I was I mean no disrespect no disrespect to him how was Mac Jones starting this long? I mean, no disrespect to him. How was Mac Jones starting this long when the Patriots offense looked like a completely different offense that I haven't seen since Mac Jones has been the starter? What I saw in the first half from Bailey Zappi, goddamn, he 14 for 21 for 196 and three touchdowns in the first half. Well, obviously, I don't know what happened in the first half. Well, obviously, I don't know what happened in the second half. They let off the gas a little bit, obviously, with the creativity

and the play call and allow the Steelers to come back into the game. But listen, there's your future right there. There's your future right there because the offense looked completely different. We in week what, 13? We in week 13, right? Yes, yes. We in week 13. I ain't seen what I just saw from the Patriots all year long.

And all of a sudden, Bailey Zappi's in his second start, Yes, yes, yes. Week 13, I ain't seen what I just saw from the Patriots all year long. And all of a sudden, Bailey Zappi's in his second start, and they look like a completely different team, a completely different team that allowed the play calling defensively to operate at its own manner, allowed Belichick and Jabril Peppers and them boys do what they need to do, and the offense did what it needed to do. Obviously, the Steelers tried to come back late. There was a fourth and two.

I think the first fourth and two, I think they should have went for it, that they didn't go for it. Obviously, analytics saying you should. Whatever, I'm not sure Mike Tomlin chose not to go for it. This is a game that they needed to win, if I'm not mistaken. I think they really needed this game, so they didn't fall behind. But other than that, I mean, kudos to the Pages. They won.

I mean, they're 3-10. It's nothing to goddamn hoop and holler. It ain't nothing to hoop and holler about. But still, it was a little promise. It was a little promising for them from an offensive standpoint because the one problem that they've always had is a quarterback position and turning the goddamn ball over all the damn time, even though Zappi had an interception.

Check this out, Ocho. Should Marvin Harrison stay or should he go? Marvin Harrison, Ohio State, I think he's a junior. Marvin Harrison, junior? Junior. Check this out. Hold on. Has allegedly been offered NIL deals that would rival first-round draft pick money to keep him at Ohio State for the 24th season.

People actually think he should take it. Dan Bryant tweeted, because of the NIL deal, I would love for him to enjoy his college career and do something that's never been done. College football is more fun than the NFL these days. I tweeted, I said, Dan, stop giving these kids this bad information.

This is what, okay, last year, the number one pick in the draft got $24.8 million to sign. Yes, sir. The number two pick got $23.6 million to sign. The number three pick got $22.8 million to sign. That's to put your name on an NFL contract. That's the money they got.

The fourth pick in the draft got $21.9 million to sign. The fifth pick in the draft got $21.9 million to sign. The fifth pick in the draft got $20.4 million. If I'm not mistaken, I think the number one overall pick got about $40 million, fully guaranteed. If I'm not mistaken, I think Bryce Young, his entire contract is fully guaranteed at $40 million. But by coming out, guess what it does? It gets you closer.

Marvin Harrison being to a wide receiver, it gets him closer to that 150, $200 million contract that he signs after his rookie contract. And because football is such a high risk sport, you would be foolish. I give you that. You remember Marcus Latimer, the guy from South Carolina that had a first round grade?

The running back. That tore his knee. The running back. Coming through the hole, I remember. Boom. So, for me, it makes... Ocho, let's just say, for the sake of argument,

there's a finance student. Pick any college you want to go. He's a junior. He's a sophomore. And J.P. Morgan comes to him and says, son, you know what? We really like what you do. You are above, you are head and shoulders above anybody in your class.

We're willing to give you somewhere between 1.3, $1 million and $3 million annually to take this job at J.P. Morgan. Now, what do you think the average college student is going to do? Take that job. He's going to do? Take their job. He's going to take the money. Because you go to college to earn a degree, to make money. So somebody wants to speed the ladder up. Somebody wants you to make the money first.

And then I saw people say, well, you know, NFL will be there. Where the hell college going? You know, these colleges have been around longer than the NFL. Yeah. You could always go back to school and get a degree. Yeah. But I think, I think you, you forget, you forget about the money part in which they're trying to entice him to stay for another year.

They're trying to pay him NIL money that will rival that of first round money. I'm not sure if they'll guarantee no 20, 30 million. Yeah. I would just get ready to say that. I would just get ready to say that. Are they going to guarantee him that kind of money? Because he would be probably the second pick. He's the best receiver in the country.

I believe he'll be at least top five. I believe he'll be at top five. He ain't going past three. But I'm just saying, that's top five, Ocho. Okay, okay, my bad. I'm just saying top three. Don't even say five.

Top three. But I'm saying top five. You know, normally, they top five pick. Right, my bad, my bad. And that's why I just listed the But I'm saying top five. You know, normally when they top five pick. Right. My bad. My bad. And that's why I just listed the guaranteed money that the top five picks got.

I think most people suspect that Caleb Williams would be the number one overall pick because he plays the quarterback position. But you need to stop because you got to stop telling these kids this. Because the risk factor with the NFL is just too great. We've seen guys. I mean, it's a different ballgame. You tear, you rupture your Achilles in college. You tear an ACL in college. It's different.

It's difficult to make up that lost revenue. Right. It is. And so, first of all, you know they're already looking for a reason not to give you your money. Oh, always. revenue. Right. It is. So you, first of all, you know, they already looking for a reason not to give you your money. Oh, always,

always. Definitely. Injury prone. Yeah. Well, you know, you know, this or that.

Yeah. Bro, get your money because of the rookie scale. It's not, you know, when you came into the league, rookies,

I remember Sam Bradford got 50 million. Never played a dime. Got 50 million. Sam Bradford got 50 million. Never played a down. Got 50 million. Sam Bradford got 50 million? 50 million off the rip. From the rim? He was the last one that got the deal because what the owners did, see, let me

tell you how the owners got slick. They went to the players and said, man, we don't think players that's never played a down should get that kind of money that's making Peyton Manning and all these guys type money. What we want to do is put a rookie pay scale in and then we can take care of the vets.

What they do, Ocho, put a rookie pay scale in and then cut the vets. See how they fooled them? Yeah, yeah. Man game. It's chess. It's chess, not checkers. Fail for it. Book, line, and sinker. No, I want everybody

to get what the market of betting. No. I want everybody to get what the market of beer. If I go to JP Morgan, if I go to one of these broker's house and they want to pay me top dollar, who am I to say, well, you know what? This is my first job. You know what? I don't think I

work with like $250,000. I don't think I work with $100,000. No. But I have a question. Sure. Now, you got to understand, this is a power five school, Ohio State. Ohio State probably have some of the most

wealthy boosters that there are. There is. Yes. Now, depending on how true the facts are about them, rivaling the money that he get as a rookie going in, do you think it's possible that the booster could all come together and actually pay equivalent to what he would get as a rookie they could but what happened what would be your choice if if it is that i'm just curious to hear

your opinion my opinion would be to go my opinion would be to leave I'm trying to listen as a kid. Pinnacle childhood dream, father of the son of the great Marvin Harrison. You know, I'm going I'm out of there, but I'm just saying if the money that from the NIL deal rivals that of what he would get as a rookie coming in. What do you do? You still stay or do you double up? Or do you say, you know, I'm betting my, do you say I'm betting on myself, I'm not going to get hurt. I'm going to go back and play again, get that bag and come back and hit him across the head and probably go first, probably be the first pick next year. This is the NFL.

This is football. The risk is far too great. Ocho, we've seen it all go away in a single play. Yes, sir. We've seen it all go away in a single play. Yes, sir. We've seen it go away. They not, I don't believe, ain't no NIL deal going to guarantee 40 million or guarantee 30 million.

Right. We saw Caleb Williams, we saw Shadur Sanders getting five million. You think an NIL deal going to guarantee more than a coach? Well, not, wait a minute now. Think about what school we talking about we talking about a power five school

they gonna guarantee him more than a day the Boosters can guarantee whatever they want to the Boosters can guarantee whatever they want to especially listen to bring him back you already know it's gonna take hell and high water to do it to even get him

to thinking oh you know what what's your goal what was your what was your tell me what your goal is what was your goal to play in the NFL if somebody say oh yeah you can go to the NFL but you won't have to go to college are you going to college if you didn't have to go to the NFL are you going to the NFL I'm going to the NFL thank you because I don't think I don't think his goal was to play he it was a means to an end. I got to go to college in order for me to get to the NFL. But if somebody's going to, hold on. If somebody, you go to college to get a degree, make money.

Now, somebody wants to speed that process up for you, Ocho. If you're a student, let's just say I play piano. I'm a pianist. And Carnegie or some famed opera house comes. We like you. They not turning that down. Why do they expect athletes?

But most of the time, who do athletes look like, Ocho? Huh? Who do they look like? You know. I ain't gonna say it. Yeah. Huh? Who they look like? You know. I ain't gonna say it. Yeah. So, turn that down. An opportunity.

I can come back and get my degree. I can take online classes and get my degree. This is the NFL. This is an opportunity. This is what you laid in your bed at night. Look, I'm just speaking for me, Ochoa, and I'm going to ask you, I did not lay in my bed

when I was a kid saying, man, I can't wait to go to college. That's going to be an opportunity that I can take care of my grandmother, I can take care of my family. I'm looking up that tin roof, like, man, college is where it's going to be at. I understood in order for me to

get to my final destination i had to have a layover it's like sometimes ocho you can't fly direct sometimes no matter how no matter what the airline is you got to have a layover yeah college was the layover but if i could have had a direct flight well i'm taking a direct flight. And most people, if cost is not an issue, they would prefer a direct flight. Most definitely. I like it.

And if I get an opportunity, Ocho, to get $30 million, but the bigger thing is, I take a year, I'm a year closer to $200 million, to $300 million. So that's how you have to think. I can come back, I'm a year closer to $200 million, to $300 million. So that's how you have to think. I'd come back.

If I wanted to come back and have the college experience, I did. I was two quarters short of my degree. I came back. I didn't stay on campus. I lived off campus. Hey, boom. But it wasn't no people taking online classes like they do now, Ocho no, I mean, people weren't taking those online classes

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but i'm just curious to see what people people people's thoughts are and their opinions on the, on the, on the matter. But obviously if, if I was Marvin Harrison, Julia, and I'm sure Marvin Harrison senior also is probably, you know, telling the same thing, you know, baby, this is something we worked on and we, we waited on all our life. And, you know, I think it would be your best interest to, to enter the draft and, and hit that next step. You know? That layover is over. He has a father that's been there and done that. You know, sometimes, Ocho, I would give my kids advice

and somebody else give them the same advice. It's just that it came from me. Oh, you my dad. What you know? Right, right. I would try to give my son pointers. He ain't listen to me. He listen to the coach. I'm like, but your dad play in the pointers. He listened to me. He listened to the coach. I'm like, but your dad played the league.

Yeah. He played. Yeah. I'm telling you how to run around. I'll tell you what to do. We do the new voice. Then the new voice, the voice that I'm not used to hearing.

Oh, Joe, what do I know about football? Nick Bosa. Outstanding defense, different defensive player of the year. Nick Bosa outstanding defensive player of the year Nick Bosa said Jalen Hurts has been figured out Jalen is looking at the rush every play

you have to be disciplined and not give him a quick escape route where he can get to his guys quick it paid off obviously we put the blueprint out there hopefully the Cowboys watch the tape. What is your take on Nick Bosa's comments? And have they figured out Jalen Hurts?

No, they haven't figured out Jalen Hurts. Obviously, listen, the Eagles are 10-2. The Eagles didn't play a good game. They lost 42-10, 42-19. I'm not sure what the end score was. They had Jalen Hurts. Yeah, 19. They had Jalen Hurts extremely uncomfortable,

didn't allow him to settle into the pocket and make some of the throws that we're used to seeing. He had to run. He had to scramble. There were some times he had like six, seven, eight seconds in the pocket and had no one to throw to. The makeup and the DNA of that 49er defense in its totality is different than any other team all 31 all 31 other teams in

nfl there ain't no other teams or defenses exactly like that they match up extremely well extremely well across the board from the interior to the secondary to the second tier all the way across the board and i'm not even going to talk about the goddamn 49ers offensively they is a different juggernaut right now but as far as them having the blueprint other teams don't have the same personnel that the 49ers have to execute the same way they did when they just played them boys the other night so but no you didn't give anybody the blueprint because even if they do have the goddamn blueprint, you don't have the personnel or the players to execute it the same way the 49ers did.

Yeah, I agree with you. And just because you beat someone, that doesn't mean there's a blueprint. You won. No. Now, and like you said... You won good. You didn't just win. You won convincingly. But, Ojo, we've seen teams

get beat. I mean, we saw Mahomes get beat several times last year. So every time somebody wins, oh, we got the blueprint. It's out. Nah. Really, dude? Nah. Really, one game? So now they've lost two games.

Yeah, it's – okay, you did a great job. You did a great job of taking away the quick throws yes they want to run a lot of what we call under wraps i don't know what y'all call them in today's time we call them the quick push up come right now one guy cleared the guy comes up for the knee okay they did a great job of of taking that that initial throw away and that's what you want to do you want to take his initial throw away and now i i want to funnel him i want to try to keep him in the pocket i'm not going to run past him once i get even with him I want to funnel him. I want to try to keep him in the pocket. I'm not going to run past him. Once I get even with him, I want to level off.

Because if I run past him, Ocho, he's going to jump out the window and take off on me. And somebody with legs like Jalen Hurts or Lamar Jackson or Justin Fields, the one thing you don't want to do is run past him. Because you ain't chasing him. I don't care who the lineman is. I don't care if it's Miles Garrett.

One of those guys jump out the window, you better hope you're not in cover five, which is 22 man, with the guys back to him. Because ain't nobody back there catching him going that-a-way. So I agree with you. I do not believe that a,

the poll play one more year at Ohio State, 12%. Go to the NFL, 88%. Okay, I figured that. I'm glad everybody's on the same page. I would love to know who the 12% is and why they would want to stay, but that's neither here nor there.

Murph donated $10. I disagree. That $40 million can stay $40 million with a bad organization versus a team versus a need for a team this is what NIL is for it makes college who said so who would just say

that Ohio State is going to beat Michigan next year so now he's stayed another year to do what they don't win the Big Ten they don't win the National Championship College Football college football playoff next year. Then what? Murph, appreciate the $10. We really appreciate you watching. But see, because

what you gave me is a scenario of him going to a bad team. Now give me the scenario in which he doesn't win the Big Ten, in which he doesn't win the college football playoff, and he gets hurt. Now what? What you gonna say, Murph? Don't let another $10 come in with another question.

That's a tough one. Because you see what it is? $40 million going to a bad organization. Okay? Where this $40 million bad, Ocho? I don't know. I mean, listen, I'm not saying $40 million is bad,

but Bryce Young, he got 40 million, right? Yeah. How they looking over there? Okay, he could have went back to Alabama. But he didn't go back to Alabama. And you understand, you see the circumstances and situation that he's in now. But you understand, Ocho, when you come out in the draft,

you're not going to a good... Oh, look, so you think that Bryce Young's supposed to go out and be able to go to Kansas City or be able to go to Kansas City come on exactly all the good teams got quarterbacks if you're a quarterback where you think you're going it's just like in basketball

where you think you're going if you so you thought you thought LeBron James was going to come out and go to the Lakers with Shaq and Kobe. Is that where you're supposed to go? No, but I'm just – oh, man, that's tough, though, man. That's tough because I'm feeling bad.

I feel bad. Not to go off topic, but I feel bad for Bryce. I feel bad for Zach. Now they got Zach starting again this Sunday. Now, you know, I don't know what to say. You better say, hey, get that money. Demond Washington donated. Shannon, times are different now.

Guys getting paid more than some NFL. Not guys that's going in the first round. And especially not guys that are going top three. We talk about top three. We ain't just talk about somebody just getting drafted. We're talking about a top three player. We're talking about a number one overall. First of all,

guys that's not going in the first round ain't getting that kind of NIL money to begin with. Anyway, ain't no self guys going into third and fourth and fifth and sixth rounds. Ain't getting no NIL deals. So we're talking about basically the first round picks, the first round pick, the last pick in the draft, the 32nd pick,

is going to make more money from the NFL than what Caleb Williams or Shador Sanders or whomever the number one NIL deal got last year. The last pick in the draft, the last pick, is going to make more than what Shador, Caleb Williams, or whomever the top NIL deal. And can you see who got the top NIL deal last year? And then give me what the 30th, 31st and 32nd pick in the NFL draft got coming up this last year.

And guess what? Oh, Joe, I'm closer to getting to the big payday. Yeah. Yeah. Cause that's what it's about. I'm trying to get this little bag to get to the big bag,

barring injury, barring injury. If guess what? If I'm trying to get this little bag to get to the big bag. Barring injury. Barring injury. Guess what? If I'm going to get injured, I'm going to get injured on an NFL field. I ain't getting injured in college. College, yeah. Oh, man. That's crazy.

I think that's a discussion and debate that can go on and on and on because regards to what points you make, that can go on and on and on because regardless of what points you make, that can go on and on because the opinions are different. Ocho, all the people that are saying, oh, you know, he should go back.

If your son had an opportunity to make $40 million, you tell him to go back to school. It's easy to tell somebody else's kid what to do now. This is what we know, Ocho. It's easy to have an opinion on what somebody else would. Well, this is what I would do when you know damn well, given that same situation, you wouldn't do it.

Ain't no way in hell you growing up in your situation and you got an opportunity and they say you sign your name on this dotted line, you got $40 million, you got $30 million, you telling your kid to go back to school. Y'all need to stop this because y'all get on social media and y'all be upset.

Y'all don't say anything. And you know damn well ain't nobody that's listening to this. The 31st pick in the draft got $12.75 million. Now, tell me, show me the NIL deal. Bronny, Bronny James, has the highest NIL deal at 6.1. The 31st pick in the draft doubled Bronny James has the highest NIL deal at 6.1. The 31st pick in the draft, double Bronny's deal. Now, last I checked, who other got a kid, dad named LeBron James? Now, which one of these kids in the NFL?

Marvin Harrison? His dad is Marvin Harrison Sr. He ain't LeBron James Sr. Right. So I want to know what football kid, Shadur Sanders, had the highest nil deal he got 4.1 so the guy the 31st pick in the draft got four times what chador got now you tell me what you're gonna do now ocho i want people at home to tell me what you're gonna do well i told

you what i was gonna do i was just curious to hear other people's opinions because I didn't think everybody would agree on what you and I are saying about, listen, we're going to the NFL. And like I said, that's why I said, please do the, what do you call it? The poll. I do the poll, and just like I knew it,

12% say, shit, I go back. I don't know how. I don't know what they think back. I don't know how. I don't know what they think about. I don't think, do they understand who Marvin Harrison Jr. is? This ain't just know anybody. This is somebody that probably goes maybe the second, maybe the third pick in the first round.

I don't think they have, they're not understanding the context of who we're talking about. Your kid. There's no way. There's no way. Ojo. It's Your kid. There's no way. There's no way. Ocho. It's your kid. People at home, Marvin Harrison Jr. is your son.

Now, you have to understand, now his situation is a little unique because his dad made millions. So it's not about money for him. But here's the thing. He wants his own name. He wants to be his own. He's like, Dad, I appreciate the opportunity that you gave me. Went I want to do this. He said, I want to do this on my own. He said, well, let's get busy. Let's go do it. Your son comes to you. I can go back and you know how inherently dangerous we see those hits. We see those guys. We see those guys, non-contact injury, Ach acl patella tendon we see that and you got an opportunity to go get 40 million and you will say nah son i think you should go back to school

okay so i wish y'all i wish y'all the best with that. But hey, everybody's situation, hey, money is not everything for everybody. So, hey, that's what they want us to believe. Yeah. Have at it. Ocho, a woman threw her burrito bowl at a Chipotle worker who was sentenced to two months service and a fast food job.

An Ohio woman has been sentenced to a month in jail and must work at a fast food job. An Ohio woman has been sentenced to a month in jail and must work at a fast food restaurant for two months after she attacked a Chipotle worker. Rosemary, uh, Haney?

Haney? Hane. Okay, Rosemary Hane was caught on video throwing food in the face of employee Emily Russell on September 5th at a Parma, Ohio Chipotle location. Damn, it had to be in Ohio. She was sentenced to

180 days in jail at the hearing last week, but the judge gave her an option. Instead, spend 30 days in jail and work the remainder of her sentence, 60 days, at a fast food restaurant. She must work at least 20 hours a week at whichever fast food restaurant she

finds a job at. At the present time I'm reading this, she has not gained employment. So she's still in jail then? She locked up? Well, she got to do 20 days regardless. Alright, so when she get out... She got to do 30 days. She got to do 30 days and she got to do the remaining 60 days.

At employment. See, I like that. The judge was being gracious. The judge was being lenient because one thing that they don't do or that people don't do is they don't treat those in the service industry, fast food service industry, with respect.

You know, they're very rude. They're very mean to people. Listen, when I worked at McDonald's, I'll never forget. When I worked at McDonald's, I'll never forget. When I worked at McDonald's on the 62nd Street, right across the street from Edison High School

here in Miami, I remember people treating me like, like shit, like I didn't belong. You know? Can I get some ketchup? Give me some more napkins. Can I get a straw? I'm like, whoa, relax, relax.

And everybody, and every time, listen, every time you turn around on Twitter, you got a fight at KFC you got somebody through the drive-thru throwing the food back at the person

that food ain't that good I don't care I don't care what the restaurant is ain't no food that good gonna make me act a fool at the restaurant and throw the food

come on now depending on how hungry you are depending on how hungry you are then what about I saw the McDonald's the lady with the blender hit the the mcdonald's the uh the lady with the blender hit the the lady at mcdonald's hit the lady with the blender yeah she deserved that she deserved that yeah she was snapping she was i think she threw the food

or threw something threw a drink on her yeah she did the lady got that blend is like hey blend this hold this hey but Hey, but that's dope. That's dope. Now you do your 30 days, and then when you get out, they should make her work at the same Chipotle that she had the incident at, right alongside with the lady. Nah, the lady probably put the mitts on her. Did she have to find another job at another restaurant?

Hey, that's dope, though. Hey, come on. I like that. I get it. You get it. You know, sometimes you get frustrated. I mean, I've been in a place, and I like to be very specific when I order. You know, I don't want any ketchup.

I don't want any mayo. I want this sauce. And then I get home. Right. And I'm like, the burger got everything on it. I mean, I call it a refrigerator because everything that was in the refrigerator, they put it on my damn burger. Mayonnaise, onion, tomatoes, pickles, ketchup, mustard, mayo. I'm like,

come on, bro. I just told y'all this. But I ain't finna go back out there and throw my food in these people's face. It ain't that serious. See, everybody's different, though. Everybody's different. You know, like you say it all the time, everybody don't play the way you play. So when it comes to their food, man, you know, people, we know black folk now. There's two things we don't play time. Everybody don't play the way you play. So when it comes to their food, we know black folk now.

There's two things we don't play with. We don't play about. We don't play about our money. We don't play about our food. We don't play about our kids. You don't play about nobody's food, especially when you get the order wrong. You know how bad it is to sit in the drive-thru, especially when it's a long line. You order specifically what you want, and then it comes on the menu exactly what you order

and then you get your food, you check it before you pull off and they got the goddamn order wrong. And then when you say something and you address the person that you're with, they got attitude with you. You messed it up.

But I'll tell you what I will do, Ocho. I will go back up there. I say, excuse me, you got my order wrong. This is what I asked for and this is not how it came. Yeah. See, I can't do that. And I got a problem.

I have a problem when I get orders wrong, or when they do get my order wrong, which is very rare being that I go to the same place over and over. I never take it back. I just eat it the way it is. I always, in the back of my mind, you know what, there are people that are starving and I'm sitting here complaining about them getting my order wrong. But boom, real,

we go eat somewhere and it makes me feel so bad for them to get her order wrong at a restaurant we're going to eat at and she's sending that food back. That really irks me. That bothers me. That bothers me. And every time I look at it, I look at it almost in disgust. Like, come on, man. What are we doing? What are we doing? Get my order right. Okay. So guess what?

Listen, they put onions in there. Just take the onions off. You ain't got to send the whole plate for no onions, man. So what I'm going to do for that steak that cost $79, I'm going to give them $59. Oh, come on, man. Oh, you got my order wrong.

I got the pay wrong. We good. Even swap ain't no swindle, Ocho. Sometimes, sometimes it's just too much, though. It just be simple stuff. You can just take it off your plate. Like, it's little stuff. You sending burgers back because it got tomatoes or they got shrimp.

Well, they overcharging. Well, charge somebody else. You can make that money up, Ocho. You can make that money up. It ain't no thing. Come on, Ocho. They can make that money up. Y'all, you don't understand. It's

hard to explain. It's hard to explain. I don't want to make their job any harder than it already is. I don't want to make my job any harder either. Even what I didn't pay for. I ask it. Hold on. Why you say I can have... Why you ask me to order? If you going to bring it hot as hell, you want it to.

I know. Sometimes in the kitchen, they make a mistake. Sometimes they make a mistake. You know, sometimes when I pull it out of my money, I make a mistake. They can have so many orders. Ocho, you know what? I thought that $100 was, I thought that $10 was $100. So my bad. I walked up out of there. So, you know, it's supposed to

be $150. I gave you $15. That's bad. I thought that was $100, Ocho. I really did. See, you never, see see you never see you never see i work i work i worked in the in the in the server the food industry so it's hard for you to understand where i'm coming from really grasp what i'm talking about but i used to be a server i used to be a cook you know i used to be a hostess so i come from a different place when i talk about these things because i'm talking through experience and what I had to go through

dealing with multiple personalities, you know, dealing with egos, dealing with people that felt they were entitled. So it's a little different. It hit different for me. I can't work in a coal mine and then complain about being dirty. I chose that profession.

I chose that job. I didn't have a choice. I didn't have a choice. I didn't have a choice. I had to make a living. I had to earn a living. Oh, there's sanitation. You can pick up cans. Oh, there are other ways. I went to a young man.

Come on. I'm in high school now. I can't be working in the garbage truck man in high school. Yeah, they let you work in the garbage truck. So we would do me a janitor. Y'all didn't have school janitors. We had school janitors at my school. I'm going to go to school and be the janitor at the same time.

After school, when that bell ring, put your clothes on and get your ass out there and start mopping the floor. Come on, man. You shut out, man. You're talking about a janitor. You're talking about that's all I had. You said you wanted to use your head. You want to use your hand and your head. Well, I'm going to put a broom in your hand and a hat on your head.

And listen, I did. People, you know, if you understand what I had to go through, man, in college to make a living, man, you'd be like, damn. Nah, I didn't get no job in college. Mm-mm. And high school. No, summer was my time to work. Once I got to school, once that was over, you know,

and I worked a little bit, had to catch chickens and stuff. But, excuse me. No, Ocho, no, I wasn't going to work. I wasn't going to work. How the hell am I going to play football and work and do my schoolwork? Listen, I did all that. Listen, and I can tell you shit. We family now. I was at

Santa Monica College. Listen, it took me three years. This is how bad I was when it came to school. It took me three years to get out of a two-year institution. 1997, I worked at Cougar Rules in LA. That didn't work out. Oh, you were the Juco, huh?

Yeah, I'm with the Juco. Me and Steve Smith, we was together. Oh, yeah. That's the 13th grade. Yeah. Hey, so I'm at Cougar Rules, right? I worked at KB Toy Stores. Excuse me.

KB Toy Stores and Crenshaw Mall. I worked at KB Toy Stores. Then I worked at Men's Land upstairs at Crenshaw Mall. This was way back in 1997. Let me see. What else? Oh, 1998, the year I was ineligible at Santa Monica College. I was ineligible in 1988. 1998. Man, my mama pissed. My grandma wouldn't even let me come back to Miami. Like, listen, baby, I done wiped my grandma. I washed my, it's her favorite line. I washed my hands.

I done all I can do. Make sure you stay up there with your mama in LA. Shoot, I had to make a living. Boom. I was working at the Right Track, you know, exotic club, you know. So I was dancing, making a little living. I was bringing in about like 2,500 a night. Right track,

off of Florence. Yeah, off of Florence. Yeah. Hold on. Women pay to see you get naked? Man, listen. Or they pay to see you put your clothes on?

No. You probably walked out there with a... I ain't trying to be funny. I told you we family now. I wrote that the right track on Florence. It's way back in 1998.

That's the wrong track. They used to call me Twix. Because, you know, I we family now. I wrote that the right track on Florence. It's way back in 1998. That's the wrong track. They used to call me Twix. Because I was tall now. I had a lot of veins. But I wasn't big. Oh. I thought they called you Twig for another reason. I thought they called you Twig.

But OK, go ahead. No, no, no. They called me Twix. And always what I learned about the nightlife, and obviously when you're dancing as a dancer, you're always dancing for the BBWs, the big women, because they tip real good. They tip real good.

So I would make it $2,500 a night. You ain't a lady if you ain't 180. 210, count your boy in. Yeah. I like that one. I like that one. But listen, you know what,

making Friday, Saturday, Sunday, $2,500 a night, and going to school Monday morning trying to get my grades together. So I'm eligible for the, for the following football season, man. I would live, I would live in life, live in life. Then boom. That's when I got my grades together, played in 1999. Dennis Erickson gave me that one shot at Oregon state.

I ain't looked back since. Yeah. You had a couple, you had a couple of them on, you know, the plus size ones, huh? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Ain't nothing wrong with them, Ocho. Ocho, you know what I'm saying? My grandpa used to say, boy, sometimes you got to slay a lot of dragons to get a queen. Yeah.

Where the queen at? Yeah. She up in the castle. Sometimes you got to slay a lot of dragons to get one. Yeah. that you gotta slay a lot of dragons to get one yeah the funny the funny fact is is because of my love or their appreciation for me during that time of my struggle and always blessing me i had always chose to date and talk to those that were what we call bbws yeah you know i i love them to death because they they they kept me they kept me above, they cut my head above

water during rough times plus size women, they like them skinny dudes they love us they love us, man what two big people gonna do? take down a buffet? what y'all gonna do together? I mean y'all be sumo wrestling

you very rarely see two healthy people very you very rarely see two two two healthy people together very rarely very rarely you know one one is small

and one is of size or I call it big bone like my grandma used to say mm-hmm oh man it was a blessing man it was a blessing it was a blessing

oh it was a blessing you took you took a couple of them down I'm sorry Rio uh-huh uh-huh she sleep she sleep

you took a couple of them down I ain't mad at you though it's the past though man it's about damn it 30 years ago I'm sorry, Rhea. Nah, she sleep. She sleep. You took a couple of down. I ain't mad at you, though, Ocho. It's the past, though. Man, it's about 30 years ago. You know, ain't nothing. But it was a blessing, man. I love him to death. I love him to death.

I'll never forget, boy. God damn right track, man. Good days in L.A. You on the wrong track with that one, though, Ocho. But I ain't got no problem. I mean, we all, you know, we all got. We had to make a living. They talk about skeletons. I ain't got no problem. I mean, we all, you know, we all got We had to make a living. I ain't got no skeleton in my clothes.

I got a graveyard. I got a graveyard. Oh, yeah. Talk about it, man. Tell us the story. No, no, no, no. I'm going to move this thing along. No, no, no, no, no. Some things I got to take to my grave. Some things I got to take to the grave.

Now, I don't put a lot of stuff out there, but some things I got to go to the grave. A woman was shamed by her seat melt, excuse me, her seat melt, for watching Magic Mike on the plane. A woman was watching Magic Mike last dance on her flight from Bali to Australia. She then

received a note from a passenger telling her ask the Lord for forgiveness. For the movie Magic Mike? I asked the Lord for slapping his taste movie Magic Mike? I asked the Lord for slapping his taste out your mouth. That's the forgiveness I'm asking for. Clearly, some airline thought

Magic Mike was appropriate to show on the plane. Oh, wait. They showed it on the whole plane? On her seat. So you know how you can get them. You get to pick your own movie, Ochoa. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Especially on a flight that long. You pick your own movie. What's wrong with Magic Mike? She going to pass me a note, ask the Lord for forgiveness. See? I could have swore the Lord said don't judge. The note said, if you want to accept his offer, you may pray this prayer. Dear Lord Jesus, I realize I'm a sinner.

I believe you bled and died to pay the price for my sin. I believe you rose from the dead and you live for forgiveness. Please forgive me and come into my heart and save my soul. I pray this in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. That's a good prayer. That's a good prayer. But with regards to that prayer... Well, you already know.

You already know where I got my Bible. I'm a backslider. Where your Bible at? You know my Bible? On the back. That was the Bible I Bible right there. Magic Mike isn't even a bad movie. It's not everything is rated

R. Is Magic Mike rated R? Normally, they do a great job because the airlines, they understand. They're kids. They're young children. And so, you know, kids, they'll look over the seat. So they got to make sure it's on the up and up I don't even think they got anything MC

17 on the thing I can see now I thought when Ash was explaining it to me I thought somebody had the computer and was watching porn on the computer now that's a whole different ball game yeah different ball game but if I'm watching something on my

I hate when people I'm on the flight and they look over there and see what I'm watching something on my I hate when people I'm on the flight and they look over there and see what I'm watching you got your seat, you can pull yours up the hell you looking at what I'm watching for hey speaking of speaking of you gotta be careful opening Twitter in public too

oh man hey listen, you scroll down and scroll through the wrong thing and you open it the wrong and people around you, and especially you got the sound on by accident, boy, Twitter gets you in trouble, boy. Damn, man. That done happened many a times. I remember being at

we called it DMV. What y'all call the driver's license place out there? DMV. Y'all say DMV? That's what it is. I open up the guy there. Department of Motor Vehicles. And I open up a thing because I've got to stand in line. Place crowded.

Quiet. You get quiet as a church mouse. Everybody waiting to hear their number call. I'll open up my goddamn phone, go to Twitter. First thing I hear, ah, ah, ah. Everybody turn around.

I'm like, holy shit. I know what you want. I tried to strike him but that bitch so goddamn fast. Yo, what you got on your phone? Not my phone, my followers, man. Somebody had tweeted some stuff that ain't got no business being online. Yeah, yeah, I got to get up out of that. Like, golly. Embarrassing me

in public. The people think I'm watching something I ain't got no business. If I follow somebody and they follow that kind of stuff and all of a sudden that thing pop up on my feet, I got to block you. Yeah. I got to block you, Ocho. I ain't gonna lie. I got to. Hey. Oh, man. That's a good one, man. God.

Man, hold on, Ochi. What happened? Real friend, the doctor. Hey, doc. What's up, doc? What's up, sis? How you doing? Just donated $500.

Oh, Lord. She said, Shannon, meet me for dinner this Saturday in LA. There we go. You can even order the lobster. There we go. You know how to reach me. Look forward to hearing from you. There we go. You can even order the lobster. There we go. You know how to reach me. Look forward to hearing from you. There we go.

Doc, come on now. Jada's like, Doc, I don't eat shellfish. So, you ain't got to worry about me. I've ordered lobster,

shrimp, scallops, oysters, clams, none of that. Listen, let's stay on point now. She said,

meet her for dinner this Saturday in LA. Let's start there. Let's start, let's start, let's start from.A. Let's start there. Let's start from the foundation. It all depends on what we talk about for dinner, what we eating. Now, listen.

Because y'all boys done ruined it. Y'all young ones, if you, like, y'all young ones, y'all 40 and down, see what happens. Look, I get it, Ocho. I'm all for the O's, too. I mean, but you, y'all take it too far so y'all O's anything between the toes and the elbows

y'all doing all that but the problem that I got with y'all y'all eating off everybody plate you remember when we was growing up we couldn't go to

everybody's house and eat you remember we could go to church and eat off everybody plate y'all young boys eating off everybody plate but you gotta understand this is 2023

I don't give a damn if it's 2043. Okay, let me tell you something. You can't eat off everybody plate. You can't eat everybody cooking. I understand. That's why she said, meet me somewhere and go to dinner. Y'all going to dinner.

Now, when you're planting seed, that's how you build a foundation. Everybody don't wash their greens the same. You know what I'm saying? You're right. It depends on who's house you go at. That's why the first question you ask is, who cooked? You can't eat

off everybody's plate. That's the problem that I got with you young fellas. You young ninjas. Y'all eating off everybody's plate. Who you calling young? I'm 55. Who you calling young? Nah, you ain't no 55. Ain't no 55-year-old eating, sucking no toes. Who? No,'t no 55 ain't no 55 year old eating no sucking no toes who no not no 55 no not the era i grew up in

so if you listen stay with me real quick baby if you grew up in the era from way back then do you know everything from when you grew up is not compatible with today's technology at some point you're gonna have to evolve at some point, you're going to have to evolve. At some point, you're going to have to evolve. You got to evolve with the times. You're getting left behind. I bet you still got that plastic on your couch. You still got that plastic.

Remember how your grandma used to have the goddamn plastic on all the goddamn furniture in the house? You still got that? And you fall asleep on it, and you wake up, and you be stuck to it? Stuck to it. Ocho, Check this out. Don't you?

I don't have, I'm very good at adapting. Right. I don't have a problem adapting. It don't sound like it. Y'all eat off everybody's plate. And y'all, you know what I'm talking about. And you that's out here watching, y'all know exactly what

I'm talking about when you eat off everybody's plate. Right. You know what I'm talking about. That's out here watching. Y'all know exactly what I'm talking about when you eat off everybody's plate. Right. You know what? But you off topic. I mean, we all know where the nose goes when the doze closes. We know, right? You know where the nose goes when the doze closes. Everybody plate.

Everybody. I don't know who everybody is. I'm like Andre 3000. Everybody. Hey. Ever, ever? I don't know who everybody is I'm like Andre 3000 everybody but Elva Elva Elva Elva come on Ocho man Ocho you Ocho we in the school zone me and you sometimes Ocho when you in the school zone man the kids might all of a sudden

pop out there you in the neighborhood you got to slow down can I ask you a question what time is it right now what time is it you at? Almost 10 o'clock. Man, school out. School out. You're talking about the school's on and school is out.

You're supposed to be doing 65 or better. You on the 405 right now. We on the 405. It ain't even no traffic. You know you can speak. We on the 405 and ain't no traffic right now. There's traffic all the time in 405. Ocho, you know, Ocho, you know even if you got your seatbelt on, you can get a speeding ticket.

Now, you might not get a ticket for not having a seatbelt, but you can still get a speeding ticket. You're speeding right now, Ocho. I'm not speeding. I'm not speeding, bro. Baby, baby, you got to talk. You got to talk, dog, man. Dog to just say, you know what, meet me for dinner saturday at six and he's scared i think he's scared baby no i think he's huh come on you gotta represent man you gotta represent man you

got you gotta get it you gotta you gotta stand on business man at least you gotta make me look good because i talked i talked i talked good for you you know i i told you he was a good dude. He was a great man. Yeah, have you seen? She is gorgeous, man. Have you seen her? Yeah, you saw? Yeah, yeah. You know I ain't nothing slow, but Mawauk. You know what I'm saying? I had to go over here and replace.

That's the only thing slow, though. Hey, baby, she just donated another $500. That's she $2,500 in the pot. $2,500. You know what I'm saying? I had to go over here and replace. That's the only thing slow, though. Hey, baby, she just donated another $500. Now she's $2,500 in the pot. You know what you could do with $2,500? She done donated $2,500 to NICAP in this economy. What does that tell you? Tell me I ain't eating nothing here by the plate. She don't need them.

She want them. Yeah, she don't need them. She want. Yeah, she don't need you. She want you. Yeah. I don't want to be wanted. Everybody want to be wanted. Yeah. Yeah. You shy. You shy. You shy. We gonna

work here. We gonna break you down. Hey, Doc, we gotta break him in a little bit. We gotta break him in. He old, man. He old. He like a Razor phone. He like a Razor phone. You know, the flip kind. He ain't really compatible with the day. You can still call.

You do all that other stuff. I don't do nothing. All I do is text and call on my phone. Yeah. I ain't got no PayPal. I ain't got no apps. I ain't got none of that. You ain't got none of that?

I ain't got no pay. I ain't got not one. What they call that? Them paying apps. What they call got none of that. You ain't got none of that? I ain't got no pay. I ain't got not one. What they call that? Them paying apps. What they call them? Like Zelle? Like Zelle or whatever they call it. You know what? You need a woman in your life because you can't live like that.

You're 55. You're 55. You ain't got none of the most important necessities you need in life. I got the best assistant in the world. Right. And when I call her, she's an Uber meal. I ain't got no Uber app. I ain't got none of that on my phone. That's all right.

We're going to get you right. We're going to get... I need you married. Because when I... Listen, 2025 in the Bahamas, I don't want to hear no excuses. Oh, I ain't find nobody all this time. Listen, God is putting it right before your eyes right now. And one thing the devil going to do, the devil going to play games.

You can't even see. You're acting like Ray Charles. God put that in front of me? Man, he done put it in front of you 2,500 times. I'm not sure what you're looking at. Check this out, Ocho. Top sports debate. Just donated $50 and said,

uh, stop dodging real free and take your old single ass on that date. Give sister a shot. You lucky I'm married. We want a pick of the free. Oh, man, come on, man. I ain't looking, man. Y'all ain't finna be donating money to clown me, man.

Man, y'all pay this here. Come on. You got to stop playing. I feel like y'all. Listen, you're going to act like Rusty. If you're going to act like Rusty the Clown, we're going to give you that. Now, we're going to check back in with you Sunday and make sure you went on a date this Saturday. You know how to reach him.

Thank you, Doc. I appreciate it. We got to keep working on him. He's shy. He's very shy, especially in public. Speaking of movies, Ocho, you tweeted earlier today. This is that time of the year. Name a better Christmas movie than Jim Carrey's How the Grinch Stole Christmas.

Please tell me something better than The Grinch. And look, one thing. The Preacher's Wife. Friday After Nights. That's a good one. That's a good one. I said The Preacher's Wife. Ricky Sm Next. That's a good one. That's a good one. I said The Preacher's Wife. Rick is smiling.

Rick is smiling. You right. And can't win you. But this is the funny thing about it. You said Friday After Next, Preacher's Wife, right? And then How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Jim Carrey's. You notice how all of them are Christmas movies, but completely different? Yes.

They're all Christmas movies, but completely different. I want to laugh. I like Frosty the Snowman too funny even though Frosty was sad you remember Frosty the man the man tried to put him on he put him in the

the greenhouse and he closed the door and Frosty built it yeah oh man that was chat chat what's your

what's your favorite Christmas movie man oh what about the Christmas story you're gonna shoot your eye out with the BB gun remember that yeah the Christmas story? You're going to shoot your eye out with the BB gun. Remember that? Yeah.

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Puka Nakua was asked about LeBron congratulating him on the Rams rookie record Puka said if my girlfriend wasn't my screensaver then it would probably

then LeBron would probably be it hmm Ojo what's your screensaver my screensaver is let me let me turn my phone

your way so you can see my screensaver hold on okay is... Let me turn my phone your way so you can see my screensaver. Hold on. Oh, the baby. Yeah, little french fry. That's nice. Look at my screensaver. What's your screensaver? Is that the world?

Whatever came on it, that's my screensaver. Come on, man. We got it. Come on screensaver. Come on, man. We got to come on, man. Come on, man. Don't nobody pop up. Don't nobody pop up when you call. Don't nobody pop up. I ain't got none of that, Ocho.

Ocho, I call, I text. That's all my phone can do. Man, put some wallpaper on you. Put the dog on there. Put the dog in front of your screensaver or something, man. Where the ugly dog at? Man, don't do that. Don't do that, Ocho. Don't do that, Ocho. Wait, listen. Where the dog in front of your screensaver or something, man. Where the ugly dog at? Man, don't do that. Don't do that, Ocho.

Don't do that, Ocho. Wait, listen. Where the dog at? He in there? The dog in there? No, he in the bed asleep. Your dog got a bedtime? See?

Me and the dog in the bed. Okay. Okay. I see you. I see you. That's my nugget. That's my nugget. That's my nugget. There you go.

So you see where he's sleeping? He got the whole side to himself. Yeah, you need a woman in your life now and put a dog on the floor. That's my goal. That's my goal. I guarantee you, and I guarantee you this, and I guarantee everybody in the chat,

before 2025 gets here the dog will be on the floor and it will be a woman in his bed that's my goal that's my purpose in life God put me on earth

to find a woman Ocho I ain't gonna Ocho there might be a woman in the bed but that dog

ain't gonna ever be on the floor that ain't gonna happen listen she could be in the bed. But that dog ain't gonna ever be on the floor. That ain't gonna happen. She could be in the bed. You can't have the dog in the bed with you and the missus. You can't do that. What I can't have is her in the bed with me

and the baby. Oh, Lord. It's gonna be tough. She got a choice. She got a place. She can sleep at her place or she can sleep with me with the dog in the bed. You know what?

We're going to work on you. It's going to be a tough one. That dog ain't going nowhere. It's like therapy. Dog done slept in that bed. I promise you, since 2010, a dog has been in my bed

every night since 2010. She lucky. The big ones don't. If the big ones didn't snore, they'd be in there. I had a special bed made because I wanted all the dogs to sleep in the bed.

So I got a 10 by 10. The bed is 10 feet wide, 10 foot long. So basically, it's two king-size beds put together, combined. Right. For me and the little ones.

I like where you're going with it. I like where you're going with it. I like where you're going with it. I understand. Ocho, think what I'm doing, Ocho. She got to sleep next to me, Ocho. Because he got a side by himself. So she got to sleep next to me. Right.

Yeah, but I'm saying, Unc, sometimes when it's, you know, you and the wife and you or the woman or whoever you choose to be with. I ain't getting out that bed. I'm going to work with you. I'm going to work with you. You're going to find a woman.

You're going to find a woman. Somebody going to come into your life. It's probably going to be the daughter too. She's going to work with you. And you ain't even going to want them dogs in the room. You ain't even going to want them dogs in the room. Ojo. When she get a hold of you. I'm telling you. That's how it work. O room. You ain't even going to want them dogs in the room. Once she get a hold of you.

I'm telling you. That's how it work. Ocho. You stubborn. You being stubborn. Ocho, do you know what I went through to get that dog? If you knew what I went through to get that dog. You told me the story. I know. I know. I know. Somebody had to travel. You had to pay her to travel. You paid $10,000.

I understand all that. I understand that. But you know what you know what's going to be here long when that dog is gone your wife your woman and guess what you know what's going to be here

when you get old and no matter what when you get old and you need somebody to wipe your ass you know who's going to do it that woman that chick

when you got to get pushed around at Whole Foods because you be eating that healthy shit in your wheelchair you need somebody to pushed around and hold food could you be eating that healthy shit and in your wheelchair you need somebody to push you and help carry your groceries up the goddamn stage no gonna do that you want the dog ain't be able to push you the dog gonna be able to do that yeah stay with me now i'm gonna tell you what you need to hear i ain't gonna tell you

what you want yeah you keep playing around this and the dog that. You're going to be old and by yourself. The dogs ain't going to be able to do all that help. All right. All right, now. Now you keep letting time pass you by and thinking, you know what? I got a few more years. You know what? I will call my daughter, but she got to get up and go to work in the morning.

Oh, you going to put the load on the kids, huh? They put the load on me? Oh, you're going to put the load on the kids, huh? They put the load on me? Oh, nah. Nah, that ain't how it work, Slim. That ain't how it work, Slim. That is how it work. That's what you...

A woman. God puts a woman in your life for that. Okay. You know what, Ochoa? I'm going to keep that in mind. Maybe, yeah. Here. Oh.

Hold on. Okay. Faith just donated $50 and said, in Shanna's defense, dogs don't lie, cheat, they love unconditionally, they're loyal, and they're less expensive than women. Talk to them, Faith. There it is. Wait, she said...

She said... In Shanna's defense, dogs don't lie, cheat, their love is unconditional. They're loyal and they are less expensive than women. Well, I'm not, I'm not sure. I don't agree with anything. I don't agree with anything that was just said. You just spent 225, you spent 225 bands on Rails Ray.

I ain't got no dog called that. And the upkeep. And you bought real a car. Let me tell you something. And when I get old and raggedy and can't move, guess who gonna take care of me? Baby, you gonna take care of me when I get old and can't move? Yeah or nah? Huh? Shit, she said

she's taking care of me now. So, boom. That was an investment. Now, talk your talk. Talk what I'm about. When I'm old and gray, who gonna push me in the wheelchair? That one over there. Well, I can't tell you gray because you bald head

because you might be gray now. Grow your hair out. I ain't got no gray. I can grow a full set of hair. Speaking of hair, man, you know what I did I had a day? Who?

Real. Man, real, man. I had a washing set, blow dried it out and flat ironed it and burnt my goddamn hand, man. I ain't worried about that.

Now, see me, you know, I got a little dry bar set up over here. You ain't know that? What's a dry bar? That's how I know you don't know what you're talking about. I got a little dry bar set up. Azrael, she know what dry bar is. Azrael. He took... What's another name for dry bar? Because he's saying something I don't know about.

What's a dry bar? Huh? Oh, man. I don't use that. I use... That's me. I say I got a little set up. Oh, no.

You got a little set up. I got a whole goddamn salon. What you talking about, man? That's what I... What the hell you think Drybar is? I'm telling you, I got the same thing set up at the crib. No, you don't. No, you don't.

No, you don't. No, you don't. You ain't live long enough to have that much hate in you. You said they donated $50, right? Yeah, faith. Say what they said again. In Shannon's defense,

dogs don't lie, cheat, their love is unconditional, they're loyal, and they're less expensive than a woman. Actually, you know what? The funny thing, one of the things I don't like what she said, she said dogs are less expensive than a woman. Well, actually, so what I've done to eliminate all expenses as far as women

necessities, I do them all myself. Facials, manicures. Listen, stay with me on that, baby. I do facials, manicures, pedicures. I do her makeup, lashes, eyebrows, and her hair. I install wigs, extensions. I can color wigs. I can braid.

I do all that. All I want to look I'm paying for all that see see what I'm talking about so you ain't making no sense you're agreeing with faith but then you willing and ready to pay for everything when I'm showing you how to save the money learn to do the things that she needs

all you need is YouTube what about you you said you got a dry bar how you got a dry bar. How you got a dry bar but you willing to pay for everything? Learn to do it. Learn to do it. I got it. Let me ask you a question. I learned how to do it.

Let me ask you a question. You got pots and pans? You still eat out? Yeah, right here. Exactly. And you ain't cook nothing. I cook today. Baby, did I not cook for you today? I cooked a salmon, macaroni and cheese and broccoli with the croissant roll, the Pillsbury croissant roll. What you talking about?

Well, I ain't eating no salmon. I eat salmon, but I don't eat none of that. I said salmon. I said the L. Yeah. My bad, my bad, my bad. I don't want salmon. Salmon? Yeah. My bad, my bad, my bad. I don't want Sal. Salmon?

Yeah, yeah. Well, God damn it. They put an L in that motherfucker. I'm saying L. Salmon. You know what? Nicky Grant said, just want Shannon to know how fine he is.

I think he's with a gorgeous... I think he is with that gorgeous smile. You're okay too, Chadford. Good night. I'm okay. Good night, Shannon. And Shannon only. That's what I'm talking about that gorgeous smile. You're okay too, Chadford. Good night. I'm okay. Good night, Chadford. And Shannon only. That's what I'm talking about, Nicky.

You heard what Nicky said. I'm okay. Okay, Chadford. I don't know if Nicky can see. She's all just fine. Can you see, Nicky? Can you? This.

This. Like, this. What you talking about? I'm okay. Shoot. Man, I was. I knew we hating. I ain't hating.

I'm just saying, I was 2007. I was sexiest man of the year in 2007. Why they can't come to the chair and give me a compliment? Why you got to give her all the compliments? I don't like the way she came at me. Talking about, oh, Chad, you okay? I ain't okay. Shoot.

I'm a 10, baby. On a scale of 100? Yeah. He say I'm a 10 on a scale of 100? Uncle Jay say, Uncle Ocho, what's your most embarrassing NFL moment? Also say Uncle Ocho what's your most embarrassing NFL moment

also Uncle Ocho for your help stay away from Andre Ward he'll hit you so hard you'll eat healthy man please I'm gonna beat

Andre Ward ass man he ain't no no about I think oh oh you talking about the boxer oh yeah yeah yeah

you need to stay away from me. I'm shitting me. I'm shitting me. I was born for this. Hey, didn't we just talk about competing earlier? No matter what it is, we're going to compete?

Yeah. Yeah, you're going to have to show me either you're going to become a lesson or you're going to one or the other. Learn a lesson. Learn a lesson.

Become a lesson or learn a lesson. One, one, one or the other. Learn a lesson. Become a lesson or learn a lesson. One I'm going to happen. Bree said, Uncle Ocho, love the show, but who's your top five greatest route runners of all time? I believe Ocho is one of them. Number one

is me. Number one is me and any player with what? I have no job. You know what, Ocho? I'm tired of, you know what, you know, I mean, you're on nightcap. Ocho the greatest rock runner there.

Ocho is. You know, I play a lot of games. I play a lot of games. I always horse around, but when it comes to that route running, ain't nothing like that. Ain't nothing like that. Ain't nothing necessarily like that. And even those that are playing now

and those from my day and the those before me, they'll tell you that. That boy's something serious. Especially with them feet. Thanks, Arcana Berry. Uncle Nocho, did you hear about 2J's Hushmanzada have a stalker

that changed her last name to his? Yeah. Have you ever had a crazy stalker? Yeah, she right here in the house now. Goddamn, Rev. You spoke, Ocho? Yeah, how you think we got to this point? You ain't calling the cops on him?

Nah, boy, I wasn't calling the cops on that, boy. If you saw what I saw, no saw. So you opened the door and let her in, huh? I ain't had no choice. I ain't had no choice. Ju said, Uncle Nocho, big fan,

just got out three and a half year relationship, have been listening to old podcasts to help me pass time. Any advice from either of you on how to move on? Wait. You just got out of a three and a half year relationship right? Yeah. The harder look.

If you invested time it's hard. Yeah. Because anytime you invest in something and it doesn't work out it's hard. It's not easy to move on. Yeah. Because anytime you invest in something and it doesn't work out, it's hard. It's not easy to move on. No, no, no, no.

But each day, and it all depends on the type of relationship and how far along, and I understand three years, but how, because for me, I look at it like, how do I put this Ocho it's a

time is the one thing you can't get back I don't look at it as like I wasted this many years I've wasted that many years it just it wasn't meant to be and it's kind of like Like, I wasted this many years. I've wasted that many years.

It just, it wasn't meant to be. And it's kind of like, see, love is funny, Ocho. Yeah, it is. Love is the only thing that will kill you but keep you alive to feel it. Mm-hmm. And so, it's kind of like, when people ask me, say, well, Shannon, and I've had people ask me, like, Shannon, how do you get on? Like with death, how do you get on? I say it doesn't get it doesn't get easier. You just deal with it better because you never get over it.

Yeah. Now, a relationship, it all depends on how involved, because the more you see relationships, it's easy to get over when you're the one doing the breaking up. Oh, Joe, it's easy to leave. Yeah, it's easy to leave when you want to. I'm out of dope. I ain't thinking about it no more. Because because before you made that decision, you probably checked out a lot sooner mentally. Yeah. Mentally, you already made before you actually made the exit or you you you stomach you summons up the courage to say babe this ain't working no more you probably had already checked out but when the other party says that they want to go in another direction and you're not willing and you're not wanting that to happen it's tough bro yeah i'm telling you trust me It's tough, bro. Yeah. I'm telling you, trust me. It's tough. Yeah. I mean, I mean,

I can, I can speak on, I can speak on this. Uh, obviously you was someone for three and a half years. Uh, I started dating honestly back in 1983. And the funny thing about it is everybody left me, you know, since 1983, every relationship I've been in, every woman built up the courage to leave me at some point so I understand what you're going through I empathize with you I understand it does get easier with time over time it gets easier

it's tough you deal with it better yeah most definitely and then obviously I think about it at this standpoint who is taking care of who who is paying the bills? So are you really losing anything outside of an expense? I look at it from that from from that point of view. It's unfortunate if you have in trouble getting over her and have any issues, feel free to come on down here to Miami. You know, I can send you to some places that can cure you in, you know,

maybe two, three days. You probably wouldn't remember who she is. So just let me know. You know how to reach me, man. Just hit me in my DM. And I got some friends that'll show you around Miami. Yeah, you'll be all right.

I got you. It takes time. I mean, and the longer the relationship, the harder it is to get over because like you said, you invested three years. You've invested five years. You've invested 10 years. Yeah. But at the the longer the relationship, the harder it is to get over. Because like you said, you invested three years. You've invested five years. You've invested 10 years.

Yeah. But at the end of the day, like when I was younger, Ocho, and I'm still kind of like this. If I'm with someone and we meet that person together, I break up with that person. I break up with you too. Damn. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Wait. So, damn, aren't you... Why are you tough?

I'm just moving on. So you're moving on from that individual and friends. And the friends that we met together, yeah. Damn. Yeah. And it's okay. It's together. Damn. Yeah. And it's okay. It's okay.

You know, it's okay. Damn, that's tough. But it was hard. It was easier when I was younger because I had other things to focus on. I was so busy with my career. And now it's a lot easier because, I mean, with Nightcap and espn and and trying to create other ventures and things like that trying to come up with other things

right that could possibly work it's it's uh it's your mind it's not it's just like when i just had undisputed and you break up and people didn't know. People didn't know what I was going through, but it was coming home to the dogs and every day to hear those voices bark. Okay, now I gotta, because it was tough. I don't tell anybody this. It was tough.

It was another, I was like, hey, give me a reason to wake up. To see those, hey, to see the I'm up they up talking to my sister she's like Shannon I remember

one night I went to bed I said Lord I'm 50 I said I know you didn't bring me this far to bring me this far ain't no way you gonna going to leave me now. And I thought that over and over. It was that bad?

Yeah, man. Yeah, it was, Ocho. It was. It was. But I just always thought, my brother and I used to have a saying, Mary Porter Ray, THW, three the hard way. And I always thought about that. Think about what you overcame just to get here.

Forget everything else. Think about everything you overcame in your 50 years of existence just to be in this very spot. And you think God is going to turn his back on you now? I got up one morning. I called my sister. It was, it was, I mean,

I used to have to be to work at four o'clock then. So I got up at three o'clock. I mean, the girl woke up and I'm on my way to work. I told him, I said, I told my sister, I said,

Buck, I'm all right. She said, thank you, Jesus. I hung the phone up once I said that once I said God I know you didn't bring me this far to bring me this far

call my sister because my sister's my sounding board yeah I mean man my brother we close but my sister that's my right hand that's my left side but that's my right hand. That's my left side, but that's my right hand. I'm going to run something by her, and she's going to give me her honest opinion.

A lot of times I might not like what she has to say, but I know she's going to give it to me like nobody else. Right. And so once I said that, like, okay, I'm good. And it was tough. It was tough, Ocho. And see, I like to think a lot of, man, I ain't never been in love.

Bro, it was tough. It was tough, but like I said, and there were some things that happened that shouldn't have happened, but I'm like, okay, I'm okay. I'm okay, and, I'm okay. I'm okay. And now I'm cool. We cool.

I wish her nothing but the best. You know what's funny, though, when I'm thinking about it and everybody in the chat that's watching, fellas, ladies, those that are in relationships, those that have broken up

or parted ways with people that they loved before, is you never ever really see someone's true colors or true intentions until a situation is no longer convenient or beneficial yeah when a situation is no longer convenient or beneficial then their true colors come out yeah that whole love and whatever it may be, it probably never really was. It's just the opportunity itself created the illusion

that they actually love you when they really didn't. Because the opportunity and the convenience of that situation had deteriorated. Yeah. And that's a harsh truth. Yeah, it takes a special type of a person

to be hurt and not try to hurt the person that hurt them. Because our natural instinct, I mean, hell, dude cheap shot me, I'm going to get his ass back. At some point in time in the game, I'm going to get you back.

But at some point as we start to mature, we get older. It's not to get back. It's not to get even. It's to move on. Yeah.

And if I'm trying to get you back, I don't get to move on because I'm here. You're back there and I'm trying to get you back and I need to be progressing. Yeah. And once, once you would let black bus, like I said, Oh joe i think that

comes with age that comes with maturity because oh and i think and it's for me is that uh just move on you don't want me for whatever reason the new guy is more handsome he has deeper pockets he's more loving he's more understanding he he commends you he pats you on the back he tells you how great you are and that that was the biggest thing is that not telling someone i mean the love i think the thing is that the constant praise. I mean, it's just hard for me to tell somebody 15 times a day, you look good and I love you and all that. Listen, that's one of the most irritating things, having to reassure someone constantly or the same thing over and over and over and over. Because are you lacking maybe self-confidence or whatever? That's very draining.

Yeah, yeah. Very draining. But, and then, you know, different people, Ocho, this is what I tell people. I'm the most outgoing introvert that you'll meet. And I think people see me on television and they think, but I'm totally opposite. I'm home and I'm quiet.

Well, cause I like, I like to be by myself, you know? Yeah. I can carry on a conversation. I can go anywhere and I can present myself, but I just, I I think I think what it was is that I grew

up when I had my brother then he went to school it was just me so I would come home my sister's eight years older my sister's dating you know so it's just me and go to college. I go to one party. And it's just me. I didn't really hang out. I'm not in guys' rooms. And I'm just, I'm outgoing, but I'm an introvert. And I just, so it's hard. Me and relationships are hard so it's hard. Me and relationships are hard.

It's hard. Maybe that's why. The fact that you're opening up a little bit about it, maybe that's why you're so reluctant right now because you've been through so much. You've been hurt before. You love, and now you just, you kind of. Yeah, who hasn't been hurt?

You kind of, but now I'm getting a better understanding and the people that are listening and watching are getting a better understanding why you are so difficult in that specific area in your life. Yeah, but Ocho, you have to understand. I feel like I'm your therapist. Come here, come here, come here, come here. Ocho, but you have to understand, Ocho,

I'm in a different place now. So I have to be extremely cautious. Hey, baby. Hey, Pookie. Say hi. No. You see. Don't forget you then.

She just woke up. Just woke up? Man, it's 1.30. Yeah, she just woke up, taking a nap. Uncle TJ asked another question. He said, Uncle, I's 1.30. Yeah, she just woke up, taking a nap. Uncle TJ asked another question. He said, Uncle, I'm only 22 years of age, but I have a feeling I'll probably be alone forever with

no kids, and I'm fine with that. Heard a lot of folks say that's bad. False. Society says that we should get married and we should have kids, but you have to do what's in the best interest of you, because society ain't gonna love them kids. Society ain't gonna pay for them kids. Society ain have to do what's in the best interest of you because society ain't going to love them kids. Society ain't going to pay for them kids. Society ain't going to pay for you to be in. So society, man, man, look here.

We got to we got to please ourselves and start worrying about what people think of us. And we get a lot of that on social media. Social media make everybody think everybody flying private jet, everybody got Pateks and Rollies and everybody got, you know, Cullinans and all this. Bro, they don't. It ain't real life. No.

It ain't real life. I mean, the times are hard out here, Ocho. When's the last time you found some money on the ground? That's a hard time being right now. Ocho, when I was a kid, I'd walk outside about a quarter dime or something dime or something nah you can't even find a penny on the ground when last time anybody had one last time you found a penny on the ground

if you got to do it works for you man obviously you do there's always a social construct on the way things should go uh rules that we're supposed to abide by what we'd like to call human morality you know those guidelines we got to follow but it don't work for everybody it don't work for everybody you got to do what works for you do what's best for you and that's that's exactly what i've done obviously i didn't do anything the traditional way the traditional way it should be done i didn't do anything that way but the way i did do it it works me, and I make it look damn good the way I did it. You make it look good? Yeah, man, I make it look good.

I make it look good. Young K, Ismael Flores just had ACL surgery. What advice do you have while dealing with an injury as a former athlete? Chad, please don't say McDonald's. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Just keep a positive mind I just say the question again he just had ACL surgery

he said what advice do you have while dealing with an injury as a former athlete we're former I still am I mean Ocho ain't no athlete but I am Chad please don't say McDonald's I'm not even going to say that I've never had any injuries so I really have no expertise on actually answering, but I am. Shad, please don't say McDonald's. I'm not even going to say that. I've never had any injuries, so I

really have no expertise on actually answering that. But, I mean, obviously tearing your ACL, you want to get back as fast as possible. Take therapy and rehab very seriously. Take it just as serious as whatever you were doing that got you hurt. As much as you love that sport

or whatever you might have been doing, take it just as serious to get back rehab therapy, taking care of yourself. Uh, I mean, that's, that's, that's the best I could tell you.

It's hard for me to actually answer being that I'd never been in that position to have to rehab or, or have therapy to get back to some of my love, but you know, I'm sure you love running around. Bro. You know me, Oh, Joe, I don't had both of my heels repaired.

I had one, and then six months later, I had the other. And I was like, bro, you iRobot. Yeah. Yeah, like Shakira said, heels don't lie now. Heels don't lie. Oh, yeah. What?

Well, you're a robot man oh I can't say that you remember hey Peter Gabriel's song sledgehammer black hammer come to town I know what you're talking about now you know what I'm saying Ocho hey oh man that's it Ocho

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