Nightcap - Lakers lose to Kings, Wemby's DPOY case, & Tatum's clutch struggles
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04:14 LeBron left the game with 356 to play, went straight to the locker room. Darvin Ham said they're evaluating him at the moment, so no update. The Lakers led by 19 in the first quarter before a massive turnaround. And the second quarter had them down 15 at the half. And the game never got within single digits. I think they cut it at nine, maybe once in the second half. But I think that was as close as they got. And this was a consequential loss for the Lakers because instead of pulling a half game
04:44 behind Sacramento for the seventh seed and tying Dallas for the eighth, they fall four games back at the King with the loss to have back in the overall and lose the season tiebreaker to the Kings. For me, Gil, before you get into it, it really wasn't the second quarter. It was the end of the first quarter in which they were up by 19 they were up by what 19 and they allowed the kings to go on that 10-0 run to close it out so they got outscored in the second quarter 44 to 20 but when you add that 10 points that they gave up in the last minute last minute 15 seconds of the first quarter they really
05:22 out got scored 54 to 20 and so i thought that was a difference in the ball a lot of the first quarter, they really out got scored 54 to 20. And so I thought that was a difference in the ball, a lot of the difference in the ball game, especially in the first half. But what'd you look at? What'd you see in the first half? What did you see overall in this ball game? Yeah. During that time on a 10-0 run, I think Alston Reeves took four of those shots and missed all four. They were good shots, but four of those shots he missed. They kept
05:48 passing him the ball and he kept taking it. There would have been a time where usually you miss two in a row and they're making a run. I think they should have called a timeout a little bit earlier in that run. I don't know why Darvin Hamlin. You see that the other night. Even with the Nuggets. Let's go back to the Nuggets.
06:04 Not to cut you off, Gil. You saw the Nuggets make Let's go back to the Nuggets, not the Kajav Gil. You saw the Nuggets make their run, and he's standing on the sideline like Phil Jackson. Bro, quell that run. Call a timeout. You ain't Phil Jackson. You know, sometimes, you know, a coach will allow you to play through those runs,
06:22 to build character. But, you know, at this point in time, you can see Reeves is struggling a little bit. So the fact that he did take four or five of those shots, that was part of that 10-0 run. Other than that,
06:37 14 is supposed to be great at defense. You gave up too many points in the paint. You gave up too many points in the paint you gave up too many points in the paint you know to be such a great you know you have you know you do have LeBron back there you do have uh 80 back there so Rui's back there so the fact that you gave up 70 something points you know to a team that shoots a lot of threes is is is not a winnable for formula yeah you look at De'Aaron Fox.
07:05 He's the Laker killer. He's averaging 30 coming into the game in his, what, last five or six games against the Lakers. He drops 44 on 19 of 32 shooting. And, you know, the thing was, again, Sabonis outplayed AD. He outplayed it. He had a triple-double at the end of the third quarter. You look at Malik Monk comes off the bench.
07:25 I think he gave him 26, 28. He gave him 26. 10 of 19 shooting, 3 of 5 from the three-point line. Davion Mitchell came off the bench. He went 4 of 4 from the field, 4 of 4 from the three-point line. But let's just say for the sake of argument, if you can get LeBron. LeBron was great. I don't think he took enough shots.
07:44 He was 10 of 16, 10 of 10 from the free throw line. He was 31, 13 and 5, 31 points, 13 assists, 5 rebounds, 1 steal, only had 3 turnovers. So you can live with that. But
07:59 AD had 14 and 11, but Sabonis gave you 16, 20 and 12. So you can't gave you 16, 20, and 12. So you can't, you can't. And see, that's what, that happened the last couple of games. Jokic outplayed him. You can live with Jokic outplaying him. Jokic is the first or second best player in all of basketball,
08:17 but you can't let Sabonis outplay you. You've got to play him to a standstill because De'Aaron Fox is going to, hey, De'A Darren Fox basically outscored D. Russ and he outscored A.D., D. Lowe, and Austin Reeves by himself. They had 42
08:36 between the three. He had 44 alone. Yeah, with Sabonis, to be honest, it's one of those type of stats where he outplays you, but there's nothing you can do about, like, he's going to get all the rebounds. So it's not like he got a lot of offensive rebounds. The assist him passing to his teammates, that's his job.
08:55 So you can't really quantum that. But he's pushing it. But he's pushing it. You see him get the rebound? He's pushing it. He's going to eat. Go ahead. Yeah, but you can't, like, that's not, that's under, you know,
09:09 that's not an 80s control where that's his style of play. You know, the Euro, the Euro bigs just has more tangibles. You know, so the assists, you know, kind of push them above the American big right now because they can get their teammates involved. When they're not having a great offensive game, they can make those passes. Like Sabonis, I think he's leading in triple-doubles this year over...
09:35 Yoke. Yoke and Lucas. So, you know, he's really going under the radar with how dominant he's been playing. But see, that's why you cook his ass on the offensive end. You go get 30. You go get 30. See, this is where he needed one of those 35-15 games.
09:53 So now all of a sudden he's exerting a lot of energy. He didn't really have to exert a lot of energy to get those numbers. I mean, yeah, he played 38 minutes, but he had a triple-double at the end of the third. And so now he's just adding to that total. And that's where AD needs. AD is going to have to like, you know, he's 5-13. He missed some shots early.
10:12 I didn't think he was as aggressive as he needed to be. But when you get a guy like that that can score on the offensive end, and he's not got a guy that's going to give you 30, but he can give you 20 and 10 and 10 and 20 20 and 15 you've got to punish him ad needs to have that was the game ad did that 35 15 6 game yeah you know what's so funny is is he reminds me i call them 50 50 players where if they hit their first two shots they're gonna have a good game if they miss their first two shots they're gonna have a bad game that they're gonna be unaggressive.
10:47 You're hoping that they go one-on-one and still be interested in the game. What makes a real star is I can have an 0-5 first half and then get you a 45 or 50 in the second.
11:04 Can't even last night. He had the whole game and once he got it going, late in the fourth and in overtime, he took the game over. That. Yeah, you can't just call it a night. Oh, I missed three, four in a row. It's done. I'm done, right?
11:18 You know, you have to still be engaged and do some of the other things that keeps the team involved until you get your momentum and your rhythm and your confidence. And what what happens with ad is when he starts missing early he just he just becomes um uninterested offensively yeah they didn't play any defense darren fox got whatever he wanted he got to wherever he wanted at some point in time gill what about trapping me get the ball out of his hand is that erin option in an nba game Darren Foss got whatever he wanted. He got to wherever he wanted. At some point in time, Gil, what about trapping him and get the ball out of his hand? Is that an option in an NBA game?
11:49 To trap somebody and make them give the ball up? No, not somebody that fast. Right? You just compromising your defense when you're talking about... Okay, I'll compromise it. But I see he got it going. Everybody can't have it going, Gil. You know what it is?
12:07 They haven't understood with fast guys like him. What fast guys like him want to do, Derrick Rose, I did it. John Wall did it. We want to set the pick at the damn half court, right? Get a running start. If you're tough enough to bring your ass up there so we can just zoom by you. Right.
12:25 Because we have more running room with those type of guys. You sit at the three point line to take away their burst of speed. They don't realize that because they want to pick it up. We're going to set the pick as high as possible. And then we get a run at the big man, which that's what Fox does very well. I thought the key I thought the key to the run with the Lakers was when is it Hayes got the end one
12:52 and they called it an offensive foul on a natural way of jumping. I'm going to jump with your right hand and your right leg is going to come up. So what happens is that put them within nine, right? Yeah. That put them within nine.
13:10 He gets the free throw eight, and then they came down and made a three. So the fact that they took that away, they took away that three-point possession, you know, it could have been a six, 12, 15-point game, and they get a couple more now. What could have been an eight-point game now is a 19-point game. Yeah. You know, and I think that was one of those key moments with the refs.
13:29 And, you know, as one of the refs who actually played, I forgot his name, but he did play basketball. Something Wood. Oh, yeah, Al Wood. Is it Al Wood? Or Leon? Who was the ref today? Hold on. We got the refs up here. Where would I find the refs? Al Wood. Is it Al Wood? Leon. Woods Woodrit? Who was the ref today?
13:47 Hold on. We got the refs up here. Where would I find the refs at? Was it Derrick Collins? Derrick Collins played, right? Derrick? I don't know. I know there was a – I don't know if he had – yeah, there was a Wood that – not Woods, but there was a guy that played.
14:06 I think Derrick played, well, you understand that when you jump, that's how you jump, so he didn't lead with his knee. Right. He didn't lead with his knee for offensive foul. That's just a natural jumping ability. You don't jump with your leg straight down,
14:20 so that was a call that they messed up, and I thought that was the point of the game where they needed that because that and one then you come down shoot a three it's a different vibe right especially at home so uh once they took that away i think it was um it kind of it took it took away some of the momentum derrick collins yeah kevin cutler i know Kev, Scott, Twardzki, and Derrick Collins. Yeah. They were just that. I was like, ah, that's what they needed right there.
14:54 And you know what, Gil? The thing is with the Lakers. I'm thinking Orlando Woodridge. That's what I was thinking. The big old. Big old. I think the thing is for me, Gil, is that with the Lakers, what are there, 20 games left?
15:08 Yep. So you really, because you put yourself in this corner, you have no margin for error. You've got to win these games. When you get the Nuggets down by 11, you've got to find a way to win that ball game. You get the Kings down by 19, you've got to find a way to close that ball game. You get the Kings down by 19. You've got to find a way to close that ball game.
15:30 I know it's early in the game, but you still have AD and LeBron. They just stopped playing defense. They were the stretch. They were getting layup after layup after layup after layup. And the Lakers were like, oh, well. Oh, wide open shoot around threes. We just got to put this in perspective. Right now 7, 8, 9, and 10
15:56 is locked for 7, 8, 9, and 10. That is a lock. Lakers is going to be in a play-in game. Golden State, Dallas, and Sacramento. Those are going to be in the play-in game. Golden State, Dallas, and Sacramento. Those are going to be the play-in game teams, right? Yeah. Utah at 28 wins.
16:13 They're five and a half games out of, you know, the 10th spot. They're not moving. So this is the four. Now, let's just be honest these four playing chess no one wants to move to six because no one wants to play denver no hell no right no one wants to play denver so you only see phoenix actually trying to get the fifth right phoenix Phoenix would rather play Clippers than Denver in the first round. Yeah, yeah. I want OKC.
16:49 Yeah, so, you know, so, but if I'm Lakers, I want to be eighth spot. Because eighth spot gives me Minnesota, and then it gives me four or fifth. So I don't have to worry about Denver to the Western Conference Finals again. Well, what about if I get the seventh seed? I want... Well, I'm hoping the OKC Thunder finish it too, because I want them.
17:17 Yeah, then I get Denver in the second round. Oh, no, I don't want them. Yes, I don't want Denver either. I don't want them. So I'd rather just sit back where I'm at right now knowing that I don't really have to cut the engine on because 11, you're too far
17:34 behind for 11 right now. So I want to sit in that eighth spot. Okay. You know, take on tough Minnesota and then I have the Clippers, New Orleans, or Sun sons for my second round. But what, what,
17:49 uh, what about the eight spot? That means you got to win to get, uh, well, seven, eight, whoever wins becomes the seven seat,
17:54 right? Yeah. To be honest, I don't even know how that works. Yeah. Cause somebody got to win two games. Okay. Cause if you're the seven seat and you lose,
18:03 whoever loses go down. Yes. And then whoever with 9-10, you get one game. Whoever loses out of 9-10, they're out. 7-8, they get to play the winner of 9-10. Yes. Okay. Man, that game hurt.
18:24 I just knew I mean and the Lakers shot 52% Gil they shot 52% from they shot 52%
18:30 from the field 47% from the three 84% from the free throw line and they lose they give up 130
18:38 that tells me you didn't play Gil you didn't even pitch anybody you didn't play no defense. That's what I'm saying. It's one of those things where it's like,
18:50 are you just trying to sit in Tim's spot? To be honest, if I'm coaching, I'm telling you right now, this is what I'm doing. So I got to be careful on the games I win versus the game I lose because I want a spot so I want the 10th Minnesota Sacramento
19:11 got up 16 more shots than the Lakers yeah with only one more with only one more turnover so that tells me offensive rebounds they had nine the Lakers had three yeah and that's it more turnover. So that tells me offensive rebounds, they had nine, the Lakers had three. Yeah.
19:27 And that's it. Lakers got to find a way to do a better job of getting on the glass. Now, this is a, you know, they got out-rebounded the other night by Denver. At some point in time, you can't keep getting that rebound. You're giving teams too many cracks at you. That's why I can put in a
19:44 football term, Gil, you can't let teams keep getting, picking up third downs because you're giving them too many cracks at you. That's why in the football term, Gil, you can't let teams keep getting, picking up third downs because you're giving them too many cracks at you to get the ball into the end zone on that one drive. You want to get them off the field. You get them. All you can do is get them in third down. We didn't give up a touchdown on first down or second down.
20:00 We got them in third. Let's get off the field. That's all you can hope for as a defense. Get somebody to third down and get them off the field. You didn't give up the touchdown on first. You didn't give it up on second. You got them to third. We've got to get off the field.
20:13 You keep letting teams convert on you in the same drive on third down, they're eventually going to catch up with you. You keep letting teams get that many cracks at you on the offensive end, oh, well, I'm going to go down. They're not going to miss all those threes. They're not going to miss all those threes. They're not going to miss all those putbacks. I don't understand where
20:31 I don't think, like, I want to be inside the locker room when he's giving out his speeches because it is simple sometimes. Like, hey, AD, I need this to be a 20 rebound game, right? You need to start setting like assignments. But there's just games.
20:56 You have to lay assignments down depending on who you playing against. Hey, AD and Bron, I need to, I need you guys to combine for about 35 to 40 rebounds between the two of you. We have a very defensive minded team. They hit the offensive glass. You
21:15 guys need to secure it. I told my son, he just had 53. He had 53 the game before. I said, hey, you're not going to have 53 against this next team. I'm expecting you to have about 20 and 20. I need you for your team to win. You need, as a guard, you need about 18 to 25 rebounds. That is the, you get 18 to 25 rebounds, you guys win this game, you're going to the state championship. If you
21:46 don't, if you sit around trying to be a guard, y'all in trouble. He had 18. He had 20, 24, and 18. Wow. You have to lay, some of these guys, you have to give them an assignment so they can mentally focus on it. Right. And see, here's the thing.
22:02 If you don't do that, then they just play the game normally. Right, no. And see see here's the thing when I say Sabonis I played AD he scored more points and he had more rebounds we understand the assist because a lot of the offense has run through him so we'll concede that
22:17 Jokic having more assist than AD I'm not complaining about that but I can't let him beat me on the scoring end and on the rebounding end. I've got because if I'm losing, if I lose two or three against one of those guys, I'm probably going to lose that game.
22:34 If I lose all three of them, I'm damn sure going to lose that game. And this is why the ideal of what people used to say about Russell Westbrook. He's stat chasing. One of those stats
22:49 were two unselfish ones, or two of them stats was unselfish. Assist, that means he's passing the ball, and rebounding, which takes effort. I guarantee you they wish they had a dude tonight that cared about rebounding so much.
23:05 You know what I mean? Yes. Sabonis almost out-rebounded. Sabonis had 20 rebounds. Laker starting five had 24. Yeah, see, yeah, yeah. 13, 18.
23:18 Yeah, see, the fact that he's rebounding so much. 23. See, the fact that he's rebounding so much leaves a little room for offensive rebounding. Which there's no second chance, like he's cutting off second chance points, footback points, because he's doing 95% of the defensive rebounding for that starting five.
23:40 Well, if you think about it, he had more offensive rebounds than the Lakers had as a team. That cannot happen Gil I mean technically technically if he's getting all the defensive rebounds that means someone ain't getting offensive rebounds well he found a way to get four and the Lakers found
23:58 a way to get three so how did that happen he's doing his damn job that's what I'm saying sometimes you just gotta sign shit I thought Rui played good you look at Rui, Rui's been playing well 13-17, 3-5 29 points, LeBron
24:14 10-16, 1-4 from 3 10-10 from the free throw line 31 points D-Lo struggled tonight, he was 3-10 he had to go a little bit early 2-6 from the 3 2-2 from the free throw line, Austin Reed D'Lo struggled tonight. He was 3 of 10. He had to go a little bit early. 2 of 6 from the 3. 2 of 2 from the free throw line.
24:28 All 3. 6 of 15. 4 of 7 from the three-point line. But where they killed us is on the bench. Their bench came in and gave them 50. And the Lakers bench probably gave them 20. Let's see. 6, 7, 15, 18. 50 to 18 and bench points unless your starters go haywire you're probably gonna lose if a team's bench outscores you by that margin unless you got
24:55 unless lebron goes for 50 80 goes for 30 you're gonna lose that game no no that's facts that's facts um it was just one of those games where they just didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't play all the way through they had a great first quarter and from there they just you know laid an egg yep all right gail there's an article that came out this morning talking about lebron scoring his 40,000th career point a feat no one else has ever accomplished it said lebron has privately questioned whether Laker Nation would fully ever embrace him after seeing him battle their beloved Kobe Bryant for so long. Acknowledge the way the
25:30 fans and the franchise showed up for him. Much respect and much loyalty to Laker fans, to Laker fan base for showing me that love. LeBron said, being the first player to do something that's pretty cool in this league. Are you surprised? I'm surprised
25:46 that LeBron's surprised that he thought he was going to be able to win over Laker Nation. LeBron could have won a championship. Every year he would have been here, and he still wasn't going to surpass Kobe, and he still wasn't going to pass Magic. It's not going to happen. Just like for the most
26:01 look, he was a better player than D. Wade. Miami wasn't going to embrace him like they did D-Wade because D-Wade originally there. D-Wade grew there. He was planted in that soil. He grew there. Same thing with Kobe. They dropped him off as a 17-year-old kid and
26:18 he became a man. He became a father. He became a husband. KD, I don't know, KD couldn't have thought that he was going to ever be ingratiate himself in warrior culture like steph he's original yeah i mean we you know it deep down inside but you know you you have the idea when you come to town fans come out right yeah so you know when he came to la remember he's only coming there once once a year right right but it's once a year when he came for the clippers
26:54 he is the fan favorite when he came to town for the clip show right so sometimes you know as players we think our presence when we come to town is that's us no so i think he got a rude awakening or just reality hit his first week here yeah they defaced the murals but you would think that your greatness and i think you know everyone kind of like didn't understand what I said where he doesn't deserve a statue. Statue. Because he hasn't he hasn't LeBron James the name fuck yeah has a statue.
27:34 LeBron James Laker resume doesn't have a statue here. His resume as a Laker is 89 probably 9,000 points as of today. 9,000 if he got that. One championship, that is not a statue.
27:55 Right. Jersey in the Raptors? Yeah, okay, 9,000 points. You know, six-time All-Star, five-time All-In, which would be six. Yeah, but a statue outside? Nah, the minimum he's going to need
28:14 is the beat Shaq at 13,000 points in this uniform. In this uniform. His statue is going to be outside of Cleveland. That's where his statue is. In this uniform. His statue is going to be outside of Cleveland. That's where his statue is. He should get one in Miami, too.
28:30 Hmm? Maybe. Well, tell me the guy that got two MVPs and two finals MVPs with four final appearances. No, no, no, no, no. We're not talking about his resume. We're talking about his relationship. Oh, yeah. Okay, that's a difference.
28:44 Okay, that's a difference. Okay, that's a difference. Pat Riley is going to have to leave before then. Yeah, so we're not talking about – it's one of those things where he plays three, four more years, and he gets to about 13 points, right? He can make your argument, but that's what I'm saying. Shaq's resume is three rings. Three finals MVPs.
29:11 Three finals MVP with 13,000 points as a Laker. And that's the bottom end of the totem pole there. So he was a rental. He was no different than Wilt Chamberlain when he came. LeBron was a rental for the Lakers' greatness. That's just something that he's
29:34 just going to have to accept. Even though most of his milestones came in this uniform. 30,000, passing Colby, passing Kareem,
29:49 40,000 assists, rebounds. Yeah, the milestones were hit here, but the legacy wasn't built here. Correct. And that's just something he's just going to have to really just understand. And it's just part of the game.
30:03 That's all. It ain't nothing nothing personal right I mean if it was if he was if this was the Clipper Nation right Clippers ain't get it but hell they take me and you right now Gil I mean we win 50 games
30:18 we get our jerseys on best ride to get to the NBA finals oh they gonna build a statue of your boy shit that's what they got Best ride to get to the NBA finals. Oh, they're going to build a statue of your boy. Shit, that's what they got. They'll have a statue of the whole goddamn James family out there. Come on now. But I think, look, I used when I was describing KD going to Golden State,
30:44 I said Golden State was new addition. Bobby Brown left. They brought Johnny Gill in. Johnny Gill could not sing Bobby Brown. Yeah. But he was never going to be accepted by the fans because Bobby Brown grew up with those guys in Roxburgh. Yeah. That's just the way it is.
31:01 Kobe Bryant grew here. Magic Johnson grew here. Now, we know what Kareem is, but that's why people know. That's why no one ever puts Kareem as the greatest Laker, because he didn't grow here. He got three of those MVPs in Milwaukee. He got one of those finals and that finals MVP in Milwaukee. So he, that's when they got, most people, 90% of the people got Kobe first, and then the other 9%, 9.5% got Magic Nick,
31:34 and then they'll sprinkle in maybe Kareem. That's just the way it is. That's, you know. It's where they see you grow. See, you know it's where it's where you it's where they see you grow see you know magic and magic and cold they watch them from kids yes adulthood right with magic guide here you're talking about wide-eyed kids still young teen or shit he's 20 right still not old enough
32:02 to get into the club right that's who they seen grow to the legacy that he became. So you got to watch him build. Like Shaq came, Shaq already had his name, right? Wilt already had his name. Kareem already had his name. LeBron already had his name. So the golden children of Los Angeles is Kobe and Magic. Yeah.
32:26 And another one, I was just thinking about it. You probably don't remember this, but no matter who came, like David Ruffin is known as the best singer of the Temptations. They had others come in, but they weren't David Ruffin. Yeah. So that's just the way it is. Who were the originals? Who were the OGs? And I don't care.
32:49 They could have had somebody come in and that could play the guitar better than Paul McCartney or could sing better than John Lennon, but they didn't start with them, and they were never going to be embraced like them. That's just the way it is. That's just the way it goes. But you know, that's everything. That's just everything way it is. That's just, that's just the way it goes. That's it. But you know,
33:05 that's everything. That's just everything in life. Right. Sometimes we get stuck. We get stuck with what we like and we don't like to add or change. You know, we're going to always compare it to what the original was. Right.
33:22 And that's just the way human, human, human nature is. Right. We're always, and that's same thing with the eighties. Right. And that's just the way human, human, human nature is. Right. We're always. And that's same thing with the 80s. Right. That first vision of basketball. That's what we like. Yeah. You change it from that. We don't like it. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's just the first of the first thing we see. That's usually, you's usually what we go off of, and that is the measuring stick moving forward. Right. The Warriors beat the Bucs 125-90.
33:54 Steph puts on the show tonight as he beat the Red Hot Bucs. The Bucs had won. They hadn't lost since the All-Star game. After that horrible loss going into the All-Star game from Memphis Grizzlies. Steph had 29 points on six made threes, eight rebounds, five assists. The Warriors have won six of their last eight.
34:13 The Warriors last two halves Sunday against the Celtics, they had 38 points. Tonight, they had 78 points. Mm-hmm. What was the difference, Gil? Besides shots, not just shots falling. That can't be the book.
34:30 For the Bucs or the Golden State Warriors? We go with the Golden State. Sunday they had 38 at the half. Tonight they had 78 at the half. You know, I think just starting off with Boston, right? You know, a real defensive team, not a fake set defensive team, a real defensive team, you know, played them different, played them to their strengths, which became go-to-state weaknesses.
35:01 Jalen Brown, hitting shots, kind of threw them off a little bit, them missing shots. So they didn't have the swagger that they had tonight. You know, tonight, you know, it's just like any championship team, just like any great greatness. You have to have a bounce back game. You know, there's going to be some games where you just play horrible. But what does your snapback look like?
35:23 Right? And Golden State's snapback was tonight 80 we had 30 something percent we got 80 tonight right it's all about the snapback and that's why they they are champs that's why they're four times champs you know the the key the key parts of that team yeah you look at draymond he had a 12 6 and. Kaminga was 20, had 20 points. Wiggins, who came back to the lineup, he only had three. Steph Curry was sensational again. And then you got T. Jackson.
35:54 He gave you 15. So they got Chris Paul, gave him 10. No, Clay Thompson gave him 10. But they got an all-around game. And you're right. Giannis was 8 of 15, he had 23 points, Dame was 7 of 16 but he was 5 of 10 from the three-point line
36:10 Bobby Portis gave him 20 points off the bench but like you said, one team shot 38% from the floor and 25% from the three and the other team shot 56 from the floor and almost 49% from the three one team made 19 threes, the other team shot 56 from the floor and almost 49% from the three.
36:26 One team made 19 threes, the other made 11. There's a plus 24 right there. Listen, this is why I don't like stats and I just like reality because you can make stats look the way you want them to.
36:43 Oh my God, the Bucks is playing very well against who? Right? They beat the Bulls. Trash. They beat Charlotte twice. Trash. And you beat 76ers without Joel Embiid.
36:59 Trash. So four to six wins came from trash teams. That's what you're supposed to do. Now, they want to yell out, oh, my God, the defense is so great. They went from 19 to five. Hold on. That's not how you look at this. Because, yeah, they were 19 before Doc got there.
37:23 Now they're fifth. This is not the defense. This is the offense. The offense was second. Now the offense is 20. What he did was slow the game down. Less possessions for the opposite team.
37:42 That's all it was. It's nothing to do with actual defensive principles. Locking in on the opposite team. Oh, okay. That's all it was. It's nothing to do with actual defensive principles. Them locking in on the defensive end. Yeah, so he's slowing the game down offensively, so it looks like the teams are not scoring as much. Right. But that's all it is. It has nothing to do.
38:00 That's why I said this. Your team was second before you got there, 19. Now your defense is five, but your offense is 20th since you've been coaching. Right. I mean, it's overall, you're 20th in offense, which is horrible. Right. Man, Golden State crushed them on the glass. I rebounded them 50 to 36, and I assisted them 37-19. And you would think
38:25 with Giannis, with Bobby Porters, with Brooke Lopez, how the hell does somebody but I should know, Brooke Lopez averaged like 7.64 career and the dude was 7.12. So I shouldn't be surprised by that because he's never been known
38:42 as a rebounder. A rebounder is even for a big he's a below average rebounder for someone his size. Lopez ought to be ashamed of himself. He had four rebounds. No, that's nice. I get two with two artificial
38:58 heels right now, Gil. 55. All I do is box out. Like, be honest. You're boxing out, but no. We need rebounding. Boxing out is cool. It's like he's been taught, just box your man out, and we're going team rebound.
39:13 This ain't no team rebounding type of thing. Go get the goddamn ball. And that's the problem, man. You got all that hype back there, and you got rebound. You're getting out rebounded by an undersized team is a problem. Yes. I mean, the tallest guy that started was Kaminga. How tall is Kaminga?
39:32 6'9", 6'8"? Maybe it's Wiggins. Yeah. And you got a bunch of group 6'8 across the board. And you got Giannis at 6'11". You got Lopez at 7'2". And you mean to tell me you got out-rebounded by those guys? And then you got Bobby Portis at 6'11", you got Lopez at 7'2", and you mean to tell me you got out-rebounded by those guys? And then you got Bobby Portis
39:48 at 6'10"? Yeah. Kaminga 6'7"? Kaminga 6'7". Wiggins got to be at least 6'7". So that's even worse because you got two guys, the tallest guys, they starting a college team. College teams start
40:03 6'7", go 6-7, 6-7, maybe 6-9, 6-5, 6-3. I mean, it's a high school team. It is high school teams. It's a high school team. Bigger than that. Yeah. Yeah.
40:18 Man, Brooke Lopez, he ought to be ashamed of himself for only getting that many rebounds. Gil, what do you want to talk about? I guess, but look, you know, have to do give you have to give go to state credit too because because they're a small team they do focus on getting the ball right this is we're gonna all go after the ball so we can get into our break you know but you know what it is though gail also is that when you shoot the when when teams shoot a lot of threes ain't no telling where the ball
40:43 gonna go so now it's a hustle situation. It's not like, you know, guys shooting threes, you're like, okay, it's gonna, for the most part. Man, when you shoot a three, it might take a long bounce.
40:54 It might go straight up in there. It might go way over here. It might go way over there. It might come way out here. And then when you got no small guy, because it ain't like Brooke Lopez, you know, he flee the foot. You know what I'm saying?
41:07 But every team, like, there's just one of those. Every team? Every team, you getting four, five? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, like I said, he probably averages seven rebounds for a career, which is horrible for a guy his size. Now, I'm not saying it's horrible.
41:26 I mean, because you get a guard to average that or, you know, a point guard. Russ probably averages that. LeBron averages that for a career. Yes. But for a center? Yeah. It's horrible.
41:38 Yeah, like it's terrible. The Magic beat the Wizards. Magic acquired fourth in the East. Paulo Banqueiro, 25.6 rebounds, 10 assists, and the win tonight. Why do you believe Paulo and the Magic are flying under the radar? One, in a small market. Two, they're a young team. No one respects the young teams.
41:59 But the young teams in this league are starting to play very hard. They are the most consistent at showing up every day, right? You know, the Orlando's, the Cavs, Sacramento, O'Keefe. They run. They run, Gil. Slow your ass down. Everybody's trying to load manage. Everybody's trying to load manage.
42:24 Them young boys are like, nah, we good over here. We can play our 38-41. We good over here, coach. So the fact that just the consistency of them just playing hard every game and they know they can steal some of these wins on teams that are load managing. Yeah. I mean, I ain't really putting a whole lot of thought because they beat the Wizards tonight.
42:50 And the Wizards, me and the Wizards won the same amount of games in February. Zero. We won the same amount of games in March thus far. Zero. So I'm not putting a whole lot of confidence. And guess what, Gil? They might not win another damn game. Listen,
43:06 the best thing the Wizards had going on tonight is the hat that I designed. I designed the hat for March 6th. Special design, a legacy hat. Yeah. The first 10,000 people showed up, got the hat. That's what sold the
43:22 building out. You know what? I'd have killed up, got the hat and left. Because I already know we're going to catch an L. I'd have got me a hat and said, this is what I came for. I paid $2 or $3 for a hat. That's funny. Somebody probably did that. Yeah, for sure.
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44:44 podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn.
45:19 In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, guess what? It's time for our next segment of the night, and it's called News Cap. Let's see what we're starting off with first. Take this out, Gil. Udonis Haslam says, Chris Bosh was more important than LeBron James during the Big 3 era.
46:16 Can we take a listen to what UD had to say? Let's play the sound. I'm telling you, CB, if he stayed healthy, he would still be playing. Everybody think that our most important player was LeBron. Our most important, still be playing. Everybody think that our most important player was Bron. Our most important player. Not our best player, but our most important player was CB. Yeah.
46:29 He was our most important player. Yeah. If Bron went down, you could bring in D-Wade, and it's not the same player, but you're going to get similar results of what you're going to get out of the player. Making plays, he can go for 30. We couldn't simulate it. We ain't have another CB. The way Spoh started using him, too, was impossible to guard.
46:44 Like, he was shooting threes. Like, he was. That's why. That man was cold, brother. He closed it out We ain't have another CB. The way Spoh started using him, too, was impossible to guard. Like, he was shooting threes. Like, he was. That's why. That man was cold, brother. He closed it out on threes as a big. That's what I'm saying. Gil, go ahead, Gil. Take off with this.
46:53 Unk. Unk. I caused some heat for this Unk. They thought I was lying, Unk. A lot of people said, was you there? Where'd you get the information? You remember when D Wade and CP3
47:08 was talking about we're going to start the big three? Yeah. I said, and everybody was like, oh, CP3 Wade and LeBron? And I came on here and thought, that's not what Pat Roddy was envisioning.
47:23 They thought they can get rid of Braun and bring in CP because they thought that they can replace what they needed was somebody who can control the game because they felt that they would have won with CP3
47:39 Bosh Wade. And everybody thought I was tripping when I said that. But you can see how the players felt Chris Bosh was way more important to the team because he was unreplaceable. He can play the five, stretch the floor.
47:56 He can be the four and stretch the floor. So he was way more important. I disagree. Could Chris Bosh guard Tony Parker? No. That was Chris. He could be three. No. He'd be three.
48:11 LeBron did. Did you remember those guys when Tony Parker went haywire and they lost game one? And then they started putting LeBron James on Tony Parker and he shut it down. And then they moved LeBron James to the five and he guarded Tim Duncan. But what I'm saying is, when I said they were making that trade,
48:28 and I said, that big three was going to be with LeBron. Everybody thought LeBron was going to be in that big three. And I was like, nah, they were trying to bring in the point guard. They were trying to bring in Dwight for LeBron. Everybody just assumed that it was a lebron and she's gone but you can see how the players ud is saying who was important to them i will i'm not going to disagree and says you know well maybe they weren't looking to replace braun but cb on his best they could never do all the things that lebron did no no no no no no like but no that like
49:04 it wasn't it wasn't one of those things where who was the better player, right? We know who the better player is just for what they were trying to do. They were like, well, Wade can be Braun. He can average 30. We need someone who can pass the ball a little bit more and is willing to accept their role. So that was the idea that went into the mindset. You remember when, let me ask you a question. You remember when Chris Bosh went down against Indiana and he missed, what, the first four or five games? So if LeBron goes down in that series, do they win that series?
49:42 No. Why not? The most important player is still there. Don't miss a match? That's what I'm saying. There's a difference between reality. Exactly. It sounds good. I get it. Oh, I want to hype
49:57 my guy up. CB, I ain't saying the best. I'm saying the most important. Yeah. If LeBron James doesn't play game six against Boston, CB there, the most important. Yeah. If LeBron James doesn't play game six against Boston, CB there, the most important player, are they winning that game? With Chris Paul? With Chris Bosh. No, no, I'm
50:13 just saying. Oh, with Chris? Hell no, they're not winning. They're not winning that game with Chris Paul. But that's what I'm saying. No, but that's what I'm saying. When people start thinking, that's why they say, like, when we value, that's what I'm saying. When people start to think, and that's why I said, like, when we value, that's what I said. Players evaluate different. They think, like, who can make the game easier?
50:33 So we start looking at people's greatness for, I'm like, we can get rid of, y'all, because the media does it all the time. Oh, they better without you. Players really start believing that shit. They do. Hold on. What did I miss? We can get rid of y'all because the media does it all the time. Oh, they better without you. Players really start believing that shit. They do. Because I'm, hold on, what did I miss? I'm older than Chris Paul. I remember this whole career. When did Chris Paul become all of a sudden Magic Johnson in the postseason?
50:57 What did I miss? When Braun had that bad finals and everybody turned on Braun. Yes. And everybody started laughing and oh Braun it was that summer that's why I said when Chris Paul and D-Wade was laughing they didn't say they had a conversation with LeBron they had a conversation with each other
51:17 right it was that series when they're sitting back and looking like shit D-Wade Bosh played well Braun didn't play so well but Braun don't want to play that series when they're sitting back and looking like, shit, D. Wade, Bosh played well, Braun didn't play so well, but Braun don't want to play B. Pippen? Oh, we can bring in Chris Paul and he can be the Pippen
51:33 for us. So they was themselves eternally was saying, we can't replace Bosh, but we can replace Braun and still be effective. But you see what happened when Bron... So when
51:50 LeBron left, what happened? I'm looking at LeBron. That's what I'm saying. But you see how sometimes even players misjudge who's important to a team. Yes. LeBron averaged during the 2012 postseason run, LeBron averaged 30, misjudge who's important to a team. Yes. Yes.
52:08 LeBron averaged during the 2012 postseason run, LeBron averaged 30, almost 10 rebounds, almost six assists, almost two steals a game on 50% shooting. Yeah. Man, we got to stop. Look, I'm just baffled. Like I said, I'm old enough to remember. I remember every game, Chris Paul has never been LeBron. But that's what I'm just, I'm baffled. Like I said, I'm old enough to remember. I remember every game, Chris
52:25 Paul has never been LeBron. But that's what I'm saying. They're not thinking about the championships they won. They're thinking about that series that they lost and they're looking at their valuation. That's how it is. Just like when Kobe had to prove a point. Oh, you know, if Kobe passed the ball,
52:42 you know, we can win a series and we can do this and do that. And Kobe said, okay. Lost. Lost. Lost. I thought these guys I thought these guys were supposed to be good if I passed the ball. Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash.
52:57 You know what I mean? And that's what ends up happening. You get this false sense of what reality really is. It really is. Because, I mean, LeBron, and then the next year he followed up averaging 26, almost 9 rebounds, almost 7 assists, almost 2 steals a game
53:13 on 49% shooting. See, sometimes you take a person, a player can be so great and you around him, you don't really see the greatness. I mean, because I disagree. I mean, hey, he believed that their most important player. But it's hard for me to believe that Chris Bosh was more important to the Heat
53:38 because he couldn't do the things that LeBron did. Like, LeBron could live at that point in time in his career, LeBron could legitimately guard one through five. You know, Tony Parker to D-Roll, to a Paul Pierce, to a Kevin Garnett, to a Tim Duncan. Now, I'm not saying he's going to take Tim Duncan
53:57 for the entirety of the game. I'm not saying he's going to guard Kevin Garnett. But when they went to that lineup, oh, he absolutely could. Because we saw it in game seven of the final against San Antonio. Yeah, but there's no difference when a coach is putting someone on the bench
54:15 because they think it makes the team better. When in reality, it don't, right? It's just these false prenotions we put in our heads. And that's what Miami did. Just like if someone says, Pat Bev is the most important player on the defensive end to the Bucs, because he talks. And then he incites Portis and them to sit in there with all this energy and doing all that. Right? It's believable, but is it reality? sitting there with all this energy and doing all that.
54:46 It's believable, but is it reality? That's all it is. It's not a reality because if Chris Paul comes there, you guys are not winning two championships. You guys are not even getting to the finals, and that's the fact, right? Because what happens is LeBron gets doubled, which frees Dwyane Wade. There's nobody doubling Chris Paul.
55:17 They're going to be doubling Dwyane Wade. Now, CP3 has to be Dwyane Wade, which he can't do that. Right? Right. See, if you're doubling LeBron, Dwyane Wade gets to play by himself, ISO basketball. He gets to dominate the game. If we double Dwyane Wade, LeBron gets to eat.
55:40 Bosh gets to eat. If you double Dwyane Wade, Chris Paul can't mimic that dominance. That's what I said. So reality is not real. That's just locker room talk shit when you when motherfuckers speaking behind the scenes like, yeah, man, I don't know if it's going to be a good
56:00 thing for him, man. You see what he did in the finals, man? Oh, man, we might need to trade him, man. Hey, I guess when LeBron had that game six, they went to Chris. Hey, LeBron, you played well. CB, we could have done this without you. CB, we could have done this without you.
56:16 It's one of those things, man. It's just, it probably was that conversation after that, when they lost to Dallas, and them boys was having conversations that summer. Yeah. Yeah, that's all that was. Draymond says Victor Wimby
56:30 doesn't deserve the defensive player of the year. Let's take a listen to what Dray had to say. Play the sound. He's currently second in odds to win defensive player of the year, although I can't quite agree with that because they have the 24th best defense in the league.
56:48 Now, that's where you kind of get into, like, his team is not that good, they're young, blah, blah, blah, but what he's doing is incredible. But you just can't move the line like that. Like, you're not allowed to just because he's young and the team is bad, a guy on the 24th best defense in the league can win defensive player of the year. I don't agree with that.
57:11 Gil, what's your take? Listen, DeWard is defensive player of the year. The defensive team of the year. Yeah. He is more important than Draymond was when Draymond won defensive player of the year see Draymond was it was a five points difference when Draymond was on and off the floor correct with is 7.4 right so his impact he impacts the defense more than Draymond Green does the problem with Wimby is there's no other players that know how to play defense on his team.
57:49 Correct. Right? Not one. So when he's in the game, like as a team, they're 24. When he's in the game defensively, they're around, what, top five? Yes. When he's playing. Well, because you got to remember, he's only playing about 29 to 30 minutes so that means 18 minutes he's not on the court yeah people are scoring
58:10 yeah well you had iguodala you had clay thompson right you had gary payton jr so when you was off the court you still had a team defensively held it down. Offensively, they were a juggernaut team. If you offensively had the best team, so when you're not in the game offensively, they're just doing what they're doing. You got Hall of Famers on your team to keep you in the top one, two, or three. Right.
58:44 Right? So he doesn't have that. So you can't penalize him because he doesn't have KD, Curry, or Klay on the team. That's not his fault. As a player by himself, he is doing his job. So this is one of those things where you have to move the goalposts. In 56 games, he's averaging 20 points, 10 rebounds, three assists, one steal, and lead the league in blocks. I think the last rookie to lead the league in blocks was David Robinson,
59:16 if I'm not mistaken. Along with leading the NBA in blocks per game and total blocks, Wimby is 12th in rebounds, 14th in steals, 10th in defensive win shares, and third in defensive rating. Yeah, so that's defensive player of the year. Yes. Right, yeah, that's what I'm saying. So right now they're trying to put team success. Yes. And that's what I'm saying.
59:43 Like sometimes there is an anomaly and he is that person that's coming into the league and defensively he is the one person out there that's doing the job it's no different than rebounding and rebounding totals right right if my team is last but i got i'm averaging 20 goddamn rebounds a game. You got to give me the award. Right. Draymond also later talked about Tatum deserving MVP when talking about team success. And the MVP has,
01:00:12 has been something that we've talked about on first tape a lot lately. But here's the thing. Now people always talk about, Oh, he'll best player on the best, best team. But we looked at some, you know,
01:00:26 I guess a lot of the voters, they go to second level and next level stats. Here it is in clutch time, in clutch, of players that's taken at least 45 field goal attempts. Jason Tatum is 15 of 46. That's 32.6%. In clutch time, game within five points, last five minutes of the game. Out of 25 players, what do you think Jason Tatum ranks?
01:00:51 Last. I would say I know I jumped the gun with the Jeopardy. I was supposed to go, I was about to throw out about 10. He's dead last. SGA is one.
01:01:09 Nikola Jokic, Jokic is two. Who do you think is number three? LeBron James. LeBron James, probably. So the best player on the best team in clutch time, last five minutes of the game game within five points well
01:01:30 okay okay hold on okay that's it was just on display last night they had a 22 point lead against Cleveland last night we just saw it on display we just saw it but that can be deceiving too you can't use that
01:01:45 metrics in because their team is number one and how many close games have they actually had? That's my point. Right? Just because they're blowing teams out. Just like when Steph was doing it, right? When Steph was winning and he won MVP,
01:02:02 what was his clutch rating? It wouldn't have been that high because he was never in the game for clutch moments. No, but here's the thing. We're just taking players that have attempted at least 45 shots. So, yes, they've won a lot of games, but he's 15 of 46. Okay, so what is the clutch metric? Last five minutes of the game, the game within five
01:02:30 points. So we're just talking about that. That's all we're talking about, Gil. We're talking about no other time in the game. That's it. Well, alright. So let me see. Last five minutes, so that'll be Shea because he's going to always have the ball.
01:02:45 Yep. The ball goes into Jokic, right? Of course, LeBron is going to control all of that. I'm pretty sure Giannis. But that doesn't deter me from if he's going to be an MVP or not. I still have Shea at Yoke just too. I would go the other way. I would go Yoke one, Shea two.
01:03:17 I probably, me, Gil, I probably put Giannis at three. But here's the thing with Giannis. Giannis' seasons have been so, I mean, he's averaging 30, giving you 12, giving you six. But you say, yeah, but he did that last year. And he did that the year before. And he did that the year before. So you get numb to him giving you 30, 12, and six. And then when you go back, I mean, at some point in time, we're going to come back and look like, man.
01:03:51 Man, Giannis had like five seasons. went 30 12 and six yeah yeah yeah yeah and I think that's I think that's what happens Gil is that we get so accustomed to great players doing great things and we they make it look so easy what the hell if it was easy? A lot of other people did. I mean, you're talking about only a handful of guys. You're talking about a guy like a Wilt, a guy like a Kareem, that's averaged, you know, 30 points, 13 or more rebounds. Elgin Baylor.
01:04:22 Mm-hmm. There only been a handful of guys that put up 30 of those kinds of numbers okay so with Jokic right yes when he won the MVP he averaged 26
01:04:37 10 and 8 the second MVP 27 8 and damn near 14 he lost 24 9 and 11. This year, he's averaging 26, 9, and 12. Right? Yeah.
01:04:56 Last year, they were 1. This year, they're 3. Why would he be 1? Because last year, if Joe... let me ask you a question. If Joel Embiid doesn't go 34-10-5, who is the MVP? Because Joel Embiid has such a historic season. I mean, we get 26-6-6. They're growing trees.
01:05:25 Yeah, Jokic would have won it last year. Yes. Right? So from last year to this year, he was number one last year. He's number three this year, and his numbers are not really changing. So what is the metrics of why he should be number one? He hasn't made no quantum leap to justify it.
01:05:48 I think Jason Tatum is down a point. Give me Jason Tatum's numbers. He shot 63% last year. He's shooting 57%. Goddamn. That's what I'm saying, but Jason Tatum wouldn't be mine either because his team was good. That's why when I say I put Shea, I put Shea But that's what I'm saying. But Jason Tatum wouldn't be mine either because his team was good. Right?
01:06:05 That's why when I say I put Shea, I put Shea because everything he's doing. Right. Team is successful. He's averaging 31 last year. He's averaging 2.2 steals, six assists, five rebounds. So for the most part, he's playing a lot better with the second youngest team. He wasn't expected to do this. So he's playing a lot better with the second youngest team he wasn't expected to do this so he's playing like an MVP Yogi just playing
01:06:29 I think the thing you see what we just talked about who did we just talk about Giannis we've gotten so accustomed to 26 12 and 9 that you're like oh man get out of here that ain't nothing yeah but that's what I'm saying. But what is he doing? What like what is he doing different? Like when we say, all right, he didn't win it last year. He was ranked one. They won a championship. He's he's the defending champ.
01:06:59 Is he playing like a defending champ or is he just playing to his standards? Like if his team was Boston, if his record was like Boston is, hands down, yes. But his team is kind of worse than they were last year. And the guy that he's competing with is having an MVP number and his team is playing like champions. I think the biggest difference is that we didn't have the expectations for OKC. So now, and so because of the expectation, but you can't punish Yoki because you set the bar so high. So if I'm the best high jumper and you set the bar at 7'8", and I've cleared the bar 7'8", like seven times,
01:07:40 and all of a sudden on this occasion I don't clear it, you're like, well, yeah, you're not the best high jumper. I actually, I am. You just had to borrow so low for the other guys to get over it that they still not clear seven, eight. So let me ask you a question.
01:07:55 I like, because I just think the thing is with what he does, what he's asked to do. And Jamal Murray has been out, missed some games. And we know that has been out, missed some games, and we know that that's the best duo in basketball. And no shade to Tatum and Brown. No shade to Giannis and Dane or AD and Braun.
01:08:18 But that's the best duo in basketball. So a duo, he has help. Okay, okay. I see where you're going he's a one man show right now Williams is good but I don't believe he's Jamal Murray I don't believe he's Jalen Brown so I get what you're saying I get what you're saying
01:08:39 Jason Tatum is 27, 8.5 and 5 Jokic is 26, 26, 12, and 9. SGA, 31, 5, and 6. Giannis is 30, 11, and 6. So... I have Tatum third, right? He averaged 30 last year.
01:09:01 Timo's second, right? He's not doing... I mean, he's playing solid. Right? He's playing solid. And they added Przingis. So you think... I know your numbers is going to go down,
01:09:18 so we can't penalize you for that. Right. I guess if they finished the season well like let's say they finished on like a 10 game winning streak I think they're going to take that in consideration to be honest I wouldn't be at this point whoever wins it between them three it's going to go down how and be Giannis and Jokic went last year. Really going to go down to that last week and who's balling and who's winning. Because right now, all three really have a case.
01:09:52 One has the record. One has, you don't even think we're supposed to be here. The other one still has, like, I'm the champ. We still in contingent. We still the best team here. I'm still the best player in the league. What's the problem? Right.
01:10:06 The Dallas Mavericks slumped to their third straight loss last night, losing 137-120 to the Pacers. It's their fifth loss in the last six games. But head coach Jason Kidd said it's not all doom and gloom. There's a lot of positive things happening out there. I can't tell. As I said earlier, Rome wasn't built in a day. Yeah, but they laid more than one brick. Rome wasn't built in a day. Yeah, but they laid more than one brick.
01:10:26 2000 level wasn't built in a day, right? And so there are only a few of us in that locker room who's won at the highest level. And when you look at the Mavs post-All-Star break, there's one glaring issue. And it's not just after the All-Star break. It's been a whole year. Defense, they stink. Dallas have the 126 is the worst rating and defensive rating in the league.
01:10:50 They've done well at the offensive end. 118 ranks fourth. But still, they're giving up eight more points on the defensive end than they're scoring. That's bad. So, but it's not enough. So, what do you see going on with the Mavs?
01:11:10 They're just not. You remember last year, right? Last year when they got Kyrie over there, right? It took a real big nosedive. You just can't have too bad defensive players on a team. You got two guys that really are liabilities.
01:11:32 That right there, it don't matter really who you got back there. It will help a little bit, but the fact that you got two guys that one... Rest his soul, Bill Russell might help. I don't. You don't think he's going to help either? No, because he'll be in foul trouble
01:11:48 because you're going to have guys coming to the rim the whole night. Right. Just like AD and LeBron. Yeah, you guys are great defense, but if you got Monk and Fox coming in, and Sabonis coming in the whole time, you're going to be in foul trouble. You're going to give up points.
01:12:04 And that's what it is. Their guys are blowing by them like they babysitting and sitting in a straw. But here's the thing, Gil. We had this conversation on first take. Me, Pert, and Stephen A.
01:12:18 And I say, they don't play no defense. Aw, man, don't nobody play no defense. I say, but not to that level. I mean, you got, I mean, they can't even guard a guy with a part, with a ooze in a parked car. So how you, so how, if you giving up eight more points on the defensive end, then you're scoring on the offensive end.
01:12:36 I'm like, what, what, what am I missing? Y'all keep saying, don't nobody play no defense. Okay. Let's just say for the first, the sake of argument, the first 40 plus minutes of the game, nobody plays defense. But what happened when it's in a nip-tuck ball game? The clutch time, the last five. One team get layups and you got to launch threes late in the shot clock. Or they come get the ball out of Kyrie's hand and they don't let Kyrie get to the paint. Or they don't let Luka get to the paint. Then what? Okay, y'all missed. You're not a great rebounding team. Now they get the ball. They go down there. They get a layup again because y'all ain't got no rim protection.
01:13:12 Yeah, yeah. I just think at this point that they've built a team around Luka's offense and haven't protected you defensively. And the problem with that is if they bring in guys that can play defense but can't score, there's going to be a focal point on Luka, and that's going to take away the scoring, right? So, you know, right now they're probably trying to figure out what the best, best scenario is to build this team around Luka. Right.
01:13:51 I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that they're going to go after more Euro type players. Guy, bigger guys that can protect the paint, rebound and still keep the floor spread for Luka to hit as much as he does. He hasn't been born yet. The only one that can do that is Wimby. What other Euro guy can protect the paint? They're going to have to make some trays, go around there and grab some of them guys,
01:14:19 some marketings and some of those guys there. Because they need height. They need height and they need people to spread the floor still. Right now they're too small trying to play guards. Well, they better go, they better find some big tall American to go over there and make with some European female and they can create something that can protect the paint
01:14:35 because that's not what Euro players are known for. I think Porzingis kind of like, him and Luka like clashing kind of messed up the build of that team. Right? Because he has to hide he spreads the floor get another like big
01:14:57 that can like rim run and now you have this great little combo. But right now you just have a bunch of guards that just, that, that can flat out shoot, but can't play it.
01:15:09 You know, defense worth of nothing. Right. That's going to be tough. That's going to be tough. Cause I don't know. They're real summer away. They're real summer way of being,
01:15:18 or they got to be really aggressive or they're, they're going to be at least three years away. And Luca is going to be, um, would it just a machine with no winning. Well, they better hurry up and get done because Luka, next contract, he can get $80 million a year. So, here's a whole lot of players you can put around a guy with one guy making $80 million a year.
01:15:39 Hey, they billionaires around here. Yeah. But the cap, and now they penalize you. They billionaires around here. Yeah. But the cap, and now they penalize you. You get that repeater. Now they penalize you because they don't want that. They don't want you putting three. They don't want you doing what Golden State did. They're not going to let you do what the Miami Heat did
01:15:59 and put three big guys together. Now, granted, the heat was a lot. I mean, in both those situations, most of the guys took, what, three, four, five million dollars a year pay cuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But at 80 million a year, most guys now ain't willing to take no pay cut. Those days are over.
01:16:20 Listen, all of that, that is, it's fool's gold. It's smoke and mirrors, right? Whatever you're putting in, these are owners trying to play Monopoly with the same. They all want to start with the same amount of money on a Monopoly board. Right. We all want to start with $1,500.
01:16:44 Yeah. Right? damn well, some of them are already bringing their own little money into the game. Because I know I do it. I know I already got a couple of $500 sacks in the pocket. We go around about 30 minutes and I start buying like, wait, what happened?
01:16:58 Oh, no. How you getting that much money? I already started the game cheating. I ain't even going to lie. But that's how the NBA is. We're not. This ain't fair.
01:17:11 This ain't fair, Huck. Right? So they put all these handicaps in if they want to. Gil, how you buying property and you been in jail three times? And they say, take your ass to jail. Do not go and do not collect $200. So how the hell you got $3,500 right now and you done ass to jail, do not go and do not collect $200. So how the hell you got $3,500 right now
01:17:27 and you done been to jail three times? That's why you got to be strategic when you pull your money out. I'll start the game with about at least $900 extra. Oh, Lord have mercy. I'm not even going. Out the gate, Lord have mercy. I'm not even going.
01:17:48 Out the gate? I'm cheating from the beginning. You got to check your pockets when we start the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to. Hey, yeah, we got to. Let me see. Let me see your pocket.
01:18:00 Because, hey, ain't no way you done been in jail. The three times you roll roll you went to jail and now all of a sudden you brian park place you brian boardwalk and and i'm this type of cheater board boardwalk it ain't even in the cards i done took that out ain't nobody laying on an app. Not from the car. I done took that out already.
01:18:29 Yeah, baby. I done took it out. We ain't going to have you just hitting the chance and then thinking you about to go get the board. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not that. The board is if you get both of them. That's what will bankrupt you. Or if you get like all the, if you get like,
01:18:46 if you can line up all the properties, all the oranges, all the blue, all the green. Now, obviously, it's harder in that corner. But man, you mess around to get, oh, the water works or something like that, and you got to pay double or. Yeah. Hey, you better start with A.
01:19:02 I'm telling my secrets, man. My kids probably watching. Oh, I don't know. The kids just cheat all the time. I already know because that's what they're telling me when they're young. I say, y'all are two in cahoots. And they tell my daddy what cahoots mean. I say, y'all are two conspiring against me.
01:19:18 He land on your property. You don't charge him. I land. I got to pay full price. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, y'all swap it. Okay. You got one section over here.
01:19:30 Now, all of a sudden, I got to come. You trade those properties at less than value just so he got the whole corner and I got to land on it. I say, man, y'all. Yeah. It's okay. You got to put your own. Sometimes they listen. I even do this. When you land on on it we got a bid for it it ain't automatically yours
01:19:50 oh yeah hell nah I make up all kind of rules whatever you land on we got a bid on it it ain't automatically yours you just go to bidding. Oh, hell no. I'll land on that.
01:20:07 I'll buy that. You got that extra $900? You see that extra $900 come in there? And you got to go behind the board once. Because you can't start rolling the dice and say, okay, I'll land on boardwalk. I got to know, bro. You got to go around the board.
01:20:24 It depends on where my school is. The pen is an adult diaper. That's what the pen is. I don't know if that bullshits what you're talking about, Keel. You're talking about the pen. You can't just start rolling the dice and start buying property as you roll the dice out the gate.
01:20:40 My kids go to public school. They can't read that damn good. They ain't reading the instructions, huh? They're not reading the instructions like that. I'm reading. I'm the bank. Hey, I'm the bank. Well, see, that's first and foremost.
01:20:54 You never going to be the bank. Because I already know. No, no, no, no, no, no. Come on. Come on. Someone got to keep control of the money, man. Nah, nah, nah. Hey, I'm either the bank or I'm the property manager.
01:21:05 I'm in control of something. When'd you buy it? Hey, I'll buy something. And if you ain't looking, I done took my money back. I ain't put it in the bank. Yeah, see, I do that. I do that. Yeah.
01:21:18 See, I do that. See? I knew you. I knew you did something cheating. Yeah, I knew that. Yesterday, Zion was asked whether he sees himself taking part in the dunk contest in the future. He said, I've got to do my part, make the all-star game. If I'm an all-star, I'll do the dunk contest.
01:21:34 If I'm in, if I'm not, I'm not doing it. Zion has made the all-star game for the first time in 2021 in his second season. He was also an all-star game last year, but skipped the game because of a hamstring injury. What would be your, what's your dream? You're talking about past and present. We're doing past and present. What would be your dream? Let's just say this, moving forward.
01:21:56 So 2025, what would be your dream all-star game dunk contest? I would have Zion. I would have Zion. I will have Ja. Jalen Green. Ant-Man.
01:22:17 Oh, Anthony Edwards. Is it only four now, or how many did he get? Four. And then I will do Zach Levine if he's healthy. You could only have, well, damn, how many guys you want to come? Well, you got to, you got to. Okay. Too low now.
01:22:32 Okay. Okay, how about this? We have five. Because what we got to have, you can't have the guy that won a dunk contest the past two years not come. Then you got Clark McClung. Shit, I wouldn't even be, I wouldn't even put one of those toppings back in. I wouldn't be mad at that, too. Because I got dunkers and I got
01:22:50 names. I got dunkers and names. They should go back to 6-8. I don't like 4. Well, the reason why they stopped going to 6-8 is because these guys were missing like 5 dunks. So that was 30 missed dunks.
01:23:05 So the dunk contest was taking as long as an NBA game. Yeah, you mean, listen, it's just like, it's just like the three-point contest. Either you own or not. You missed the dunking show at next. Next, right? And that's just, that's just the facts of it. Yeah, but that was, that was but that was the problem, Gil.
01:23:26 Guys were missing so many dunks before they got one. Guys were missing five, six, seven times. What the hell? Bro, you miss a dunk after you miss it the first time, bro, hey, go on and sit down. But that's it. This is the dunk contest. You have to be on.
01:23:43 We have to make up the rule for the guys who wanted did Vince Carter mix dunks no even with Spud Webb when when he won he didn't miss a dunk right it was it was it was one of it was destined for him right so it's one of those things where you put eight people in hey you miss your dunk God damn it, it just wasn't your time. Right. Next. Yeah. Man, them Jokers missing a hundred dunks.
01:24:10 I was like, nah, I'm good on that situation. I guess it looked like with the way Colin Sexton dunked the ball after the buzzer, he might need to be in the dunk contest. Right? You see that? Like, wait a minute, brother. You like the government.
01:24:24 Hold on. Let me go ahead and put your name right here. You got an automatic invite. Yeah, we got to keep an eye on you. But Zion said he would enter if he makes the All-Star game. And if he's healthy, hopefully he's healthy. Because I like to see him do it. But see, he strikes me as a power dunker.
01:24:48 He's more of a Dominique Wilkins type dunker. Not like an Aaron Gord or Zach Levine creative Vince Carter. Vince Carter was one of the few that was a creative power dunker. He still dunked with a lot of authority, even though he had creativity with it. I mean, okay, he got the windmill between the legs. He got the 360 windmill. He can probably, and he can jump with his left and his right, same height. Who that?
01:25:26 Vince? Zion knows. So there's only a few that got the same, like J.R. Smith, right, where they had a 44 off the left and off the right, which is rare, right? Like that is a rare, those are rarity players who can jump off the left, the right, and both. So Zion can jump off of this. Like if you see him, sometimes he came down with the right, like LeBron, and he'll switch it to the other side.
01:25:58 He's one of those guys who got dual, he got dual power where he can get creative. But see, the question is, can he jump off one? Because a lot of times, like Zach Levine is what we call a one-foot dunker. Yeah. Dominique is more what we call a two-foot dunker. Two-foot dunker. So it'd be interesting. Aaron Gordon, man, for him to do some of the dunks that he did and not to win the contest.
01:26:26 Man, I just hate it. Because, man, that was great. So, in other words, when Aaron Gordon and Zach Levine was going, it was pretty good. So LeBron didn't kill the dunk contest, huh? No. Oh, okay.
01:26:41 I was just making sure. It's just one of those things, man, where we wish we got to see it that's all that's it it's just it's just fantasy we wish we got to see you know him in the dunk contest that's all I had to crush on a girl in the 10th grade
01:26:58 I sure wish I could have saw her naked I didn't but I turned out okay anyway you know what I'm saying if you didn't see LeBron in the dunk contest, you okay. You saw some great dunk contests. You got an opportunity to see Zach Levine and Aaron Gordon go at it. I mean, Mack McClellan, the dunk that he's doing at his size, that's impressive.
01:27:19 And besides, we only have one other white guy to ever win the dunk contest. Hell, I don't think we have about two that's entered it. Britt Berry and Matt McClung. Can you remember any other white guys that entered? No. It's done. It's over. Oh, no.
01:27:35 I think Tom Chambers. Did Tom Chambers enter the dunk contest? Tom Chambers was dunked. Back in like what, 88? No, he wasn't. Man, Tom Chambers. That would have been Jordan or Dominique. Huh? that would have been jordan or dominique then no i ain't say when i said entered oh yeah he entered yeah tom chambers had some ups who did he dunk on
01:27:54 with both put both feet i hope that ain't mark i don't know i think it might have been mark jackson when he dunked the ball with both hands and had both his knees on Mark's head. I don't. Was that who he was? Oh, Rich Chapman. No, there was a few more. Oh, yeah, King Rex. Rex, Rex. Oh, yeah.
01:28:13 Oh, Rex had the gloves too. And Birdman did it too. Bobby Surer. Bobby Surer, Birdman. So they had about five or six. Don't they have about five or six? They're just sprinkling in there a little bit. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.
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01:30:32 To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Paul Pierce compares the Knicks to Instagram models with too many filters when discussing their recent success. The Knicks are like Instagram models. I'd be on Instagram and I'd be like, damn, she fine. Then you catch them in person, you're like, this you? Too many filters. KG said it's two different things, reality versus digital.
01:31:01 So what about watching on TV then? Pierce says an Instagram model that you got to fashion over. They got that fashion over on. He said, the current Knicks team won't make it past the first round against the Heat or the Pacers. What's your thought on what Paul Pierce said? No, okay. I don't think they're going make it past the heat of court
01:31:25 the pacers they have a better chance because that game will be slow and pacers don't have a go-to guy no so when you get put in that half court and you need to get buckets at the end of the game new york has a brunson yeah you have a and then you do have julius randall who can get it going to um the the pacers don't have that guy, right? It's like when the Suns make the playoff. When the Suns back in my era was making the playoffs. They're a great up and down team. But when you need to get a bucket in the last five minutes,
01:31:57 who are you going to go to? They don't have that guy, right? They got to work their offense and try to get a good shot versus giving it down to a guy and he's making all those plays so um i disagree with they won't make it out of the first round if they played indiana if they play miami or any other team they can they can beat halves in the first round so there's a few teams that they can beat in the first round here's the thing you better rebound because indiana they're looking to make or miss they're looking to push the ball they'll take it out of the net and push it or
01:32:31 they'll take it out they'll take off running if you miss it it doesn't matter miss free throws made free throws made baskets missed baskets it does not matter they're looking to push the pace yeah you can't do that in the playoffs, though. It's harder in the playoffs. It's just harder. The game's tighter. Everyone's watching everything. So something like that,
01:32:55 on the offensive rebound, they'll just deny. It'll be one of those things where we're going to deny the first pass so the ball can get up the court. Right. Just to slow down, make him catch in front of us, not on the run. Like so we're like Jason kid.
01:33:10 He wants to he wants to loop out and catch on the run, which somebody be sitting on both sides to make sure he doesn't do that, which slows it down a little bit. Or no one offers the rebounds in the first half. And we just all five get back. Right. That's when strategy really kicks in. And you try not to give up easy, easy things in that open court because you want everybody to just really play half court basketball and let the offense work. Right. Well, that'd be interesting. I like that.
01:33:40 That was a great analogy. Instagram model, you know, you're like, damn, she fine. You catch up in person like this you? that's Doc Rivers right there old catfish ass it's time for our last segment of the night Gil is called Q&A
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01:34:38 Stout, man who was responsible for a lot of things and artists in hip-hop. Crazy seeing you in Queensbridge and with Jungle and Wiz and hip hop crazy and seeing you in Queens Ridge and with jungle and whiz and the story, it was crazy to me because obviously I had interviewed metal world peace. I had interviews, uh, uh, uh, Mike Tyson. So I had heard about it. And when, uh, when Steve's like, okay, we went to his office. And so I thought that was it. He said, nah, we're going to go to Queens.
01:35:04 I was like, Queens, where? Damn Queen. I and so I thought that was it. He said, nah, we're going to go to Queens. I said, Queens where? Derry Queen? I said, you know, I don't want to. I'm good. You know, I'm going back to the hotel and eat. I don't need to go there. He said, nah, we're going. I was like, huh? And so I was like, your outfit
01:35:20 costs more than mine, so they're going to hit you over your head first. I don't need it. Hey, I got repaired hips, but I still cannot not run you so i'm good i was good gil so it was it was uh it was great and like when he they were explaining so i'm like man we're going who we're going to meet it's like we're going to meet jungle i was like they called this place they nah it's a dude so he didn't tell me he didn't really fill me in he was just saying we going you know blah blah blah I'm going to tell you
01:35:50 how I got Nas and so forth and so on so when we go out there so we pulling up so we got the guys got the and people man that's man hey unk in the bridge man unk in the I'm like
01:36:03 let me roll this thing up right quick hey y'all yeah y'all ghost to be bad you're blowing my cover so it was all good so we got out and so we walk and he's like hey he introduced himself saying man i'm jungle dudes like i'm wiz and so you know i'm talking i'm like okay and so i i'm asking i said okay explain the story how you know steve came over, I'm like, okay. And so I'm asking, I said, okay, explain the story how, you know, Steve came over. He said, man, we were sitting kind of like right where we are right now. And this car pulls up and it stops. And I'm like, I ain't recognize him.
01:36:36 Ain't nobody really recognize him at first. And like the fence wasn't right. So like a fence right there. He's like, and Steve was like, okay, we got, I got in the car. He's like, well, this thing's like, nah, the fence wasn't right. So, like, a fence right there. And he's like, and Steve was like, okay, I got in the car. He's like, well, this thing's like, nah, the fence wasn't here. And he said he started walking through the grass. So, I guess that's a no-no. But anyway, so, Jungle said I was sitting up on top of the bench.
01:36:59 And so, as he got around and started talking, I had to... Got that thing from the bottom of the bed. And so by the time I get ready, I grab that iron. Wiz said, nah, man, this the dude that make the beats for Biggie. Oh, he cool. He said,
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01:37:59 We shot that earlier, okay? We didn't release it to try to refute anything. I'm going to wear what i'm gonna wear i like wearing aloe i like wearing lululemon that's what i'm gonna wear but in this situation man it was cold in new york man you see i had my hands in my damn pockets at that time of the night it was cold it was in december hold up what was that jordan it was in december So we taped that in December. Y'all know what the weather is in New York.
01:38:28 Hell, if you live in New York, you know damn well, even if you live in the United States, you know what the damn weather is in New York in December. Yeah, I'm not. Listen, I'm all for the field. I'm
01:38:44 never going no place where I feel scared. If I feel scared, I'm not getting out of the car. I don't care. It could be like doing, giving out presents. I don't care what it is.
01:38:58 I'm not getting out of the car. So you already know. I go to Beverly Hills, Santa Monica. I go downtown some places. Other than that, my GPS just don't go certain locations. My car stops. I'm getting a Tesla and I'm a programming. Hey, when it get past, hey, Thompson, all that, turn around, take me back home.
01:39:22 I think the thing is, Gil, a lot of times where you go, the way you carry yourself, the number one currency in any hood is respect. Don't you take your ass in wherever you are. Don't you take your ass in there all of a sudden, oh, I'm better than you because I got this.
01:39:40 The one thing I've noticed, and I've been a lot of different places, is that I give everybody respect I show respect they're going to give you respect they know who you are now some people don't say
01:39:50 I don't give a F who you are don't run that through here so I went in there hey what's hey I always do this gear
01:39:59 every time I meet somebody how you doing bro I'm Shannon Sharp man oh we know who you are nah but I'm not arrogant enough to believe everybody does. So it doesn't matter, man. Hey, this is my son. Hey, I'm Shannon Sharp.
01:40:11 So I go places that I'm not familiar with. That's how I carry myself. I'm not, you know, obviously I wouldn't go there because I don't really know anybody in that area, in that neighborhood. So I don't have any reason to go there. I don't really know anybody in that area, in that neighborhood. So I don't have any reason to go there.
01:40:27 And so I remember when back in the 80s, I had a cousin. He dating this chick. Bro, I hadn't been to Chicago since 1970. It's 1989. Bro, he got me and Cabrini Green. I'm like, bro,
01:40:43 I had never been there. I know what it is. i'm like bro i i remember bro i i had never been there i know what it is i'm like bro what the hell oh what bro hey i understand you know you got a chick over here you want to see her but why she couldn't come to where we are or you know you pray you pray for a cab or something to come pick up bro you got me got me over here? I don't know nobody over here. But that's what I've learned is that, hey, they know I'm out of place. Hell. But I give everybody respect
01:41:13 and that's what you have to do when you go there, Gil. A lot of times people make the mistake, they think because of who they are and what they have. Man, some of them ninjas don't give a damn about that. Oh, no, they don't. That's why I walk away. You walking in, I flip my pockets inside out to show zero doubt my number.
01:41:33 I got nothing on me. Right. Not a dollar in sight. Oh, but when I was in college, Gil, I was on the west side. I'm on 37th and Bull. I'm all over there. I'm cool. Hey, but I know how to conduct myself. It ain't all that. Hey, side. I'm on 37 the bull. I'm all over there. I'm cool. Hey, but I know
01:41:46 how to conduct myself. It ain't all that that. Hey, man, I'm there. No, no. But that's the way you have to conduct yourself. You in you in their environment. You coming out there. Thank you better than no, bro. Hey, they chop you down and
01:42:04 you understand that. Get them their respect. I don't care what he does or Nah, bro. Hey, they chop you down. And you understand that. Get them their respect. I don't care what he does or who he is. Hey, I go to the barbershop. It's on the other side of town. Hey, when I was in Denver, the barbershop was on. I give people their respect, man. That's how you got to conduct it. I can't feel
01:42:20 scared. If I feel scared, I'm not going. I ain't scared. You just give people their respect, Gil. That's all you got. I promise. I won't even go to the game if I feel scared. If I go to, if I, listen, you think I'm going to go to the Laker Detroit game with
01:42:36 Stewart? Like, I'm good. Oh, he, oh, he ran up, that's the one that's, he ran up on the dude from Phoenix, right? You see what he did to the boy in Phoenix? No, that's another NBA player, let alone me. You crazy as hell. That's one game I want me to go to just in case I park it here in the parking lot.
01:42:56 Hey, Gil, you know, look, go ahead and say look here, man. Hey, I ain't mean it like that, bro. Let's go ahead and squash this, bro. Dap that thing up. I didn't mean it like that. He just can't read. And now he can't argue with me. He can't read. He really gonna try to come after
01:43:14 me because I said that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you should have said that. Hey, Dr. Frank and Bellamy said, hey, Uncle Gil, your eyes were on high alert in the streets and clean. They were battling back and forth and you were watching a tennis match. You had to paranoia too. Just joking. Love you. Nah, I was cool because once they
01:43:30 told me who he was I was good. I know wasn't nobody going to run up on us. His name is Jungle. That's what they call him. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds rough. It sounds rough.
01:43:52 It sounds rough. Yeah. Yeah. As soon as he said, hey, my name is Jungle, and I'm out. I'm out of here. Nah, nah. I'm glad we had him because that, I mean, you know, he carried that level of respect. I mean, you go to certain blocks, you need to be, you know,
01:44:07 you need to have somebody that carries that level of respect. So they're like, oh, no, he good. Oh, man, that's sharp. He good, man. I'm good. Once they tell you you good, you good. But you have, hey, when you're in other people's house, how do you act? You don't put your feet up on stuff.
01:44:24 You act accordingly. You in somebody up on stuff. You act accordingly. You're in somebody else's home. You act accordingly. Makes sense. Hey, Marshawn Hunter said, good early morning, Shane. Gail, Gail from the east side of Detroit. But it was a neighborhood I dared not go on the west side of Detroit. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, where?
01:44:43 I kept that thing on me. I mean, hey, most, most people, most people do. That's the one thing about the hood. Everybody got that thing.
01:44:54 I'm, yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Cause where I go, where I go get my bar, where I go get my haircut at in Atlanta,
01:45:01 um, I think, I think Vernon Forrester, the one that got shot, dude tried to jack him. He chased the guy. Dude opened up on him. But my barber, there was a store
01:45:12 across the street that had T-shirts and stuff like that. And somebody robbed the joint. And so they saw it and my barber was chasing him. Dude turned around and said, bro, this ain't your stuff. You're right, man.
01:45:28 You right. Hey, you right. Hey, I ain't chasing nothing. I ain't chasing nothing. That ain't mine. That ain't mine. I don't know why. You just running behind somebody, and that's not your stuff.
01:45:45 Where they do that at? That's the same thing when I used to steal when I was little. Right? You're stealing out of the store and they're trying to change. This ain't yours. You just work there. You don't get to nobody. I'm giving up everything.
01:45:58 I'm not fighting for nothing. As a matter of fact, I might take him to the safe in the back. Yeah. How soon can I get you up out of the car hey look here bro as a matter of fact I only got a half a tank so I'm going to make sure you get your food full hey I got $100 for you get the far away from me as you possibly can
01:46:20 I ain't fighting for nothing some of them people in this chat right now, look, you work at Ralph's or any place. Just, hey, it ain't your stuff. You still get a check no matter what. Let these people get in and get out.
01:46:37 They got shit to do too. This ain't job. Stealing from your store. Like I said, dude ran up on me, had the payphone, dude said, you know what it is.
01:46:48 I said, my man, I ain't got nothing on me. Everything I got is in my car, in the side. Man said, sharp. I said, yeah, man. He said, man, you know better
01:46:56 about the payphone on the west side. You was going to payphone? I was going to payphone. That was in the 90s. You know what I'm saying? I ain't have no cell... My brother made me cut my cell phone off, Gil.
01:47:07 Man, you know back... Well, see, you didn't have no cell phone. But back then, cell phone... My cell phone was roaming because I had a 303 area code. So now we're talking about $3, $4 a minute. That was before the... That was before the after seven was free
01:47:20 and the weekends were free, stuff like that. Man, them things were hot. Brother, hey, man, turn that thing off. Damn. So now, you know, that was before GPS. So I was like, okay. She said, well, I live over here.
01:47:31 I'm on such and such, such and such. I was like, okay. Hey, man, I'm a Mr. I'm like, damn. Allen got lost. Man, I said, hey, matter of fact,
01:47:39 pull up on 37th and Bull, probably should go over there all the time. Get my car washed sometime. I just go over there and just chew the fat. So I was like, man, you know, I pay my car washed sometimes. I just go over there and just chew the fat. So I was like, man, you know, I pay for them right here. I throw them a thing.
01:47:49 Dude run up on me. Hey, you know what it is. What you mean? What is it? Hey, bro. Everything I got, my wallet's in the side of my... Hey. Man, hey.
01:48:01 This generation don't know that. Well, you got to pull up at the Omniact nah I knew what it was I ain't that dumb I know enough he's saying you know what it is I know what it is bro I ain't got nothing
01:48:19 I would have told her I could have said I ain't got nothing what I was supposed to say I ain't give you nothing punk I've never been in no situation I'm not even going to lie to you hey but here's the thing though I mean look somebody look they see you pull up I've been fortunate you know
01:48:36 I mind my business and like I say now people kind of recognize who I am but I mean I was wrong here it is 10 o'clock 1030 at night I got. But I mean, I was wrong. Here it is, 10 o'clock, 10.30 at night. I got an SL. I jump out the payphone. The car door open. Hell, he could have just
01:48:51 jumped in the car and had the wallet and everything. Because at that point in time, I had the wallet and the SL. They had a little thing in the side. So I had my wallet down there. But I really never... I hadn't carried a wallet in my back pocket probably since high school.
01:49:08 You know, I have like a little money clip. You said you had the keys in the car? Yeah, the car was running. He probably had no driver's license though. He probably didn't have a driver's license. He ain't gonna take that. Well, he probably was thinking, he probably was thinking,
01:49:23 look, I had one of the nicest cars from the time I was like was thinking, look, I had one of the nicest cars from the time I was like a senior in college. I had one of the nicest cars in Savannah. I had a Mercedes in college. Then I had, my brother bought me a Z when I was a sophomore in college. So I've always had nice cars.
01:49:36 And for the most part, they kind of knew who I was, especially when I got, I had the all white, with that peanut butter leather, little Mercedes 300E. You know obviously I be I'm all over the city then you know
01:49:48 I'm all over the city but uh but that's not give you a little look obviously certain places you don't go uh but I think if the way you carry yourself you can't think you can't thank you better than them
01:50:06 because you have. Like I said, in that area, your number one currency is respect. Give them theirs. For the most part, they'll give you yours. I know that if I ever, ever, ever end up in a situation of being in the hood. LeBron would never get a statue with the Lakers. He's not Kobe. Kobe's not the only one that has a
01:50:32 statue. But anyway, he won that Disney ring with the Lakers. The Lakers should have re-signed Monk. How's that LeBron's fault? Which one? Re-sign? Re-sign Monk. The Lakers could only pay him
01:50:46 six million. The Kings could give him two years at about 19 million. You do the math. Are you resigning one year for six million? Or are you going two years at almost 19?
01:50:59 Tell me what you're going to do. They couldn't afford him. That's what happened. Yes. I don't know why people just think, oh, people make decisions all the time. They go
01:51:12 to the highest bidder, but they expect Apple. Think about it. You got a job. Okay, there's Google and Apple. Google want to pay you $150. Apple want to pay you $175, $190. Same hours. Probably go, you know you 175, 190. Same hours. Probably go, you know what, probably get more
01:51:27 favorable hours. Which one you taking? People outside of the sports, always most, not always, I don't want to say always, but for the most part, you're going to take the job that offers you the most money. Why do people
01:51:43 expect athletes to always take less money? Because we're supposed to care about winning more than money somehow. Yeah. I mean, hey. Mm-mm. Oh, Shannon, we'd like for you to take a pay cut so we can give Helen
01:51:59 an HR. Damn Helen an HR. Y'all better find that money. Y'all better take that money from Peter in accounting. Because Shannon Shannon ain't taking no pay cut. Yeah, yeah. Sion Johnson said,
01:52:17 Braun with a sad team is scaring the playoff in his prime. Jordan with a sad team not getting over 500. But Jordan is a killer. How's that? What's your take, Gil? What did you say? He said Bron with a sad team is scaring the playoffs in his prime. Jordan with a
01:52:34 sad team not getting over 500. But Jordan is a killer. How's that? With a sad team? Yeah. He said with Jordan. He said Bron with a sad team. Team that's not very good. He was scaring the playoffs in his prime. Jordan with a sad team? Yeah, he said with Jordan. He said Bron was a sad team, team that's not very good. He was scary in the playoffs in his prime. Jordan was a sad team, team not very good, not getting over 500.
01:52:52 But Jordan is a killer. How is that? He said the comparison. I mean, Jordan was like, okay, if you know baseball, Jordan was Barry Bonds, A-Rod, right? He was for self and had to turn into a team guy, right? LeBron is a team guy, right? Who we want to turn into a self guy, right? And I think that's the problem.
01:53:24 He is Derek Jeter. He's trying a self guy, right? And I think that's the problem. Like, he is Derek Jeter. He's trying to do everything, right? He's the old kid. He is, you know, that's the type of person he is. He's trying to build with the people he had. Jordan is like, well, I don't like this guy. Give me a new one. I don't like this.
01:53:42 Give me a new one. And then when he sees fit, like, okay, this is a good team. Then he will sacrifice. Right? You know, LeBron is sacrificing to try to make the guys he has around him. Yeah. You know, so it's just two different people. Right?
01:53:58 He's more like LeBron is more Magic Johnson. And Magic Johnson. And that's where his brain in. Right. Kobe is Michael Jordan. He's the killer. Yes. He's the assassin. You know, those mindsets are or a rarity in its own. Also. Right. Right. It's harder to find, it's easier to find LeBron type of minds, guys who are team.
01:54:33 We're going to build together versus someone who does not care about life itself. He don't care about your feelings. He don't care about, either you're going to come work and follow me or you just die
01:54:47 doing it up. It's harder to find pure assassins like that. Right? So you can't compare people to Michael Jordan and Kobe. Right? Because that's it, right? Michael Jordan and Kobe and maybe Allen Iverson.
01:55:04 Other than that, you don't find that brain. That brain is hard to find. That's why mama mentality is it. When we say the closest thing to Jordan, you're not talking about the closest thing to Michael Jordan's skill level and how his talent was. You're talking about just the mentality itself. The duplication of someone who can go out there
01:55:27 shoot a hundred shots and look at you and say yeah i'm gonna shoot a hundred more i don't care what you think don't care about your feelings don't care if you cry my job is to do this neutralize the opponent and that's what i'm gonna do do, like it or not. Oh, Gray King, Uncle Gale, teams should show Dennis Rodman rebounding footage to improve rebounding. What do y'all think? Well, Dennis Rodman had to rebound or he wasn't going to be
01:55:55 in the league. I mean, the guy scored zero points and had 25 rebounds. I mean, Dennis Rodman didn't probably average. What do you think he averages average point-wise? Six, eight points a game? Five, something. I mean, like, but that's what I said about Darvin Hamm.
01:56:13 Sometimes you got to give a guy a job and say, do this job and do it well so you can stay on the floor. And that was Dennis Rodman, right? Going, rebound. That's all I need you for. If you get two points, congratulations, but I need 20 rebounds out of you.
01:56:32 Whoa said, who wins? A starting five, six, seven and under, or a starting five, six, eight and over? It all depends who the six, seven guys are and who the six, eight guys are. Yes. Are we talking about LeBron, KD, either? Yeah.
01:56:49 Joel and Bede and stuff? Yeah. Yeah. I got a question for y'all. Yes. Why is the 40-yard dash running straight so important in football if you never do that in a game? You don't because the only time
01:57:06 there's only one route that you try to get up a full speed, and that's a goalball. And they only run, what, maybe one, two of those a game. I don't understand it either because most of the stuff is like, give me the first 10. Give me the short shuttle.
01:57:24 A lot of the testing, Gil, is that when I watch a tape, when I watch a guy, and then I go see him to the combine, I want the combine to offer confirmation for what I saw on tape. If a guy looks explosive, I want him to see him jump high. I want to see him jump far. If a guy looks quick, I'm looking at his short shuttle. I'm looking at his first 10. Because I want,
01:57:47 all I'm doing with the combine should confirm what you see on tape. Because the first and foremost, 90%, obviously I got to do my homework on you, especially if I'm going to take you in the first couple of rounds, I got to do my homework. I need to know, okay, what type of guy
01:58:03 is this guy? How much time does he spend out? Is he studied? Is he a good teammate? You know, blah, blah, blah. But combines should offer confirmation for what you saw on tape. And a lot of times where guys make mistakes is that they don't take the tape. They take the combine. You see, Tom Brady did what he did in college,
01:58:26 but they saw him run that ugly 40, and they saw the stuff that he did, and they said, well, he a six-round pick. What did the tape show you? He did that at Michigan. When he got in the game, he did that. A lot of it was coming from behind. He did that.
01:58:45 Okay. We don't like, we don't want to believe what our eyes, what our eyes tell us. And I talked to Ozzy, who I think is one of the great GMs of this time. You know, he drafted Ray Lewis,
01:58:56 Jonathan Ogden, Ed Reed, Suggs, Lamar Jackson, five guys right there going to the hall of fame. Marshall Yandy, offensive guard. He probably going to end up in the Hall of Fame. But
01:59:08 I was like, Ozzy, how were you able to hit on these guys? He said, boy, I believe what my eyes tell me. When I cut that tape on, he said, Terrell Suggs with the Arizona State. He said, Suggs ran like a 4-8-4-9
01:59:24 on a track with tights and track spikes. He said, but somebody sacked that quarterback 22 times this season. Somebody did that. Unless he had somebody fill it in for him,
01:59:39 he did that. Suggs could be in the corner. Suggs get off. So, he valued what he had saw on tape. Suggs could be in the corner Suggs get off so he valued what he had saw on tape like I said you want the combine to offer you confirmation but you don't
01:59:54 play in shorts you don't play in t-shirts you play in pads you play in cleats and you play against another man because we played the only sport, Gil. You're trying to move another man against his will.
02:00:10 Yeah. Gil, go in the house now. Go in the house, Gil. Nah, make me. That's what we're trying to do. A man will put his hand in the dirt and says, I'm going there. Now, here you're not. Not through me, you're not. A guy lines up outside. I got to get from're not. Not through me, you're not. A guy lines up outside.
02:00:25 I got to get from point eight. Not against me, you're not. So that's the thing where people, I think guys make a lot of mistakes, talent evaluators, because they base so much on the combine and they disregard what they saw on tape. Man, if a guy plays slow, I'm like, hold on.
02:00:44 Guy ran four-two, but he plays like he's running 4-6. I need to know why, bro. Why you just ran that time, but this guy is running 4-6 covering you. Something ain't adding up. Yeah, see, that's what I was looking at. I was like, why are they so excited that he has the fastest time? How does that translate to him in the game? Like I said, something stupid.
02:01:07 No, because here's the thing. There have been very few fast guys that can play fast because to be able to control that speed. You see, if you go 100 miles an hour, it's going to take you longer to stop than something traveling
02:01:24 at 50 miles an hour. Tyreek Hill is unique because Tyreek is explosive, but he can suddenly stop. That's what makes him so dangerous because he's not just the gadget guy. He's just not a nine guy, a goalball guy. He can run a route tree.
02:01:41 He can run a smoke. He can run out. He can run a comeback. He can run a dig, run an end cut, run a slant. He can run a smoke. He can run an out. He can run a comeback. He can run a dig, run an end cut, run a slant. He can do all that. Now, when he gets that ball in his hand, now you say, man, whoo, I'm glad we got him because he ran that 4-2-9-40. Yeah.
02:01:57 He's one of the few guys that I've seen that has track speed with a football body. Most of the football guys, I mean, most of the track guys, they have a track body. I was in the league with Sam Grady, who won the silver medal in the 84 Olympics. He was on the relay team. Willie Gall, James Jett, they're thin-framed guys.
02:02:21 You look at Tyreek, he's compact. He's muscular. He's a football player that actually have track speed most track guys they're not built like that so I wasn't that no no no
02:02:35 4KT said oh rank these in order in which you love you need to put loved not love to eat I would go squirrel one raccoon two rabbit three turtle four
02:02:51 as pets? no to eat I would take a raccoon right now. Yeah. Eat. I didn't hear a dish on there. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
02:03:18 I can get a rabbit, you know. I don't mind a rabbit. A little turtle, you know. Throw a little pellets in there. You said to eat. Wait, say those again. He wanted me to rank the order in which I would love to eat
02:03:31 first. Raccoon, squirrel, rabbit, turtle. I told him I would go squirrel one, I would go raccoon two, rabbit three, turtle four. Okay, I'm going to go chicken one. Turkey, beef,
02:03:48 pig three, fish four. That's me, young. I've never even seen a store that would serve any of those four that you just named. Aw, man, you ain't
02:04:04 never had no fried squirrel? Squirrel and rice? No. I seen a rat the other day grab one of those from under, like in New York, he grabbed a rat. It was another rat that grabbed one under the trash can. Oh, he was dead? Yeah, it wasn't dead, wasn't it? Huh?
02:04:20 Was it dead? It was dead. Yeah. Yeah, rats nasty. They terrible. You said. Yeah, rats nasty. They terrible. You said, hmm. Okay, look, I know you lived in the woods for most of your life, but you don't supposed to eat the shit that's out there.
02:04:34 Oh, yeah, you do. I mean, hey, see, there wasn't no chicken. I mean, look, we ate chicken, but the only time we ever got chicken until I got to college or the only time we got fried chicken at home is on Sunday. Every Sunday, we ate got chicken until I got to college or the only time we got fried chicken at home is on Sunday. Every Sunday we ate fried chicken. As long as I can remember, you know, my mom said that's what they ate when they were growing up. They had fried chicken, but we never got chicken in pieces. My grandma would buy the whole chicken, two whole chicken, cut it up. She would fry or my
02:05:02 sister, my aunt would fry the chicken. That's how we did it. We ate everything. We ate the necks. We ate the backs. You know, you ate every part of the chicken except the last part and the first part that got over the fence. The beak and the butt. That's the only thing. But sometimes you ate the butt because that's that little fatty part. You ever had the butt of the chicken? You ever had that?
02:05:20 Nah. Just chicken wings, chicken just the chicken. You ain't getting all those good pieces. You out your damn mind. You think you about to get all the good pieces? I was a single child. All the pieces I wanted. Okay.
02:05:36 Nah, we got like my grandfather got, he got obviously he go get the breast, a short thigh, something like that. You can get a short thigh and a back. You can get a drumstick and a wing. The bone?
02:05:51 The bone. You would gladly eat it. But you won't. As a kid, yeah, that's the meat on that. You got the neck too. I mean, you ain't never had no chicken. Man. I don't know what to do you eat fish with the head on it too don't you
02:06:10 no no no no no I need to head off but I don't eat fish I need no the fish need to be filleted I can't eat no fish with the bone in it man I got choked one time man I ate damn near a whole loaf of bread
02:06:20 trying to get that bone out of my throat I said God if you get this bone out of my throat I promise you I ain't put no damn more fish in my mouth, especially if he ain't been deboned. Well, okay,
02:06:30 so you ate that on Sunday. What did you eat Monday through Saturday, though? Uh, squirrel, rabbit. Uh, we ate, like, smothered fried chicken. See, like, whatever you didn't eat
02:06:42 on Sunday, my grandma had some fly in water, then it was going to be smothered fried. So you're going to eat all that until it was gone. It wasn't going See, like whatever you didn't eat on Sunday, my grandma had some fly water, then it was going to be smothered fried. So you're going to eat all that till it was gone. It wasn't going to like you go, my grandma cooked some meat and then you didn't eat all that. Then she cooked some more meat. No, hell no. You ate everything. And once that was gone, they cooked something else. So, you know, rice, peas, uh, most of the time, I mean, I ain't really like, I ain't like vegetables. So me and my brother eating cereal.
02:07:08 She's like, okay, y'all know, y'all better not eat up all that cereal before Saturday. Y'all ain't gonna have nothing to eat. So... Wait, wait, is it legal to, wait, hold on. Is it legal to eat rabbit and stuff like this? Yeah, yeah. Eat it.
02:07:22 We, we, you eat, you eat quail, you eat dove. Dove. Dove, the. Eat it. You eat quail. You eat dove. Dove. Dove. The bird? Yeah. Oh, nah. Yeah. Nah.
02:07:35 I can see why you're not married, huh? Yeah. Now, I don't eat it now. Oh, okay. Ain't no woman cooking that shit for you. Nah, nah, nah, no. I wouldn't let nobody... Huh? Yeah, I eat quail. Ash brought me some quail from home.
02:07:50 I eat quail. Yeah, quail right now. Fried quail. That's the... No, I eat quail. The bird. Fried. Hey, like, a lot of times, like, when I lived in Savannah probably like once a month I went to this place I call Elizabeth's
02:08:10 man they had the best quail and grits I still rock with it right now the only the only meat I eat side of chicken is duck that was good no we had you don't eat duck? yeah I've eaten duck dark meat but I eat yeah I eat duck my uh duck
02:08:29 chicken quail dove squirrel turtle raccoon obviously you eat everything on the pig
02:08:40 there ain't nothing that you don't eat on the pig the only thing you don't eat on the pig is a squeal you eat the tail yo y'all nothing that you don't eat on the pig. The only thing you don't eat on the pig is a squeal. You eat the tail. Yo, you eat the head. You had the head, the ears. You ain't never had no pig ear sandwich?
02:08:52 Pig ear sandwich. Pig ear? Yeah. The ears. Pig got ears. You kill the hog. You cut the ears off. You eat them. And have a pig ear sandwich with mustard. Just bacon. Nah, hell no.
02:09:06 The only pig I know. You ain't have no pigtails? Maybe we put pigtails in greens. Hey, I know people in the chat know about pigtails. I had the pickle eggs or the devil eggs. No, the pickle. It's pickle, right?
02:09:20 It's like pink. Oh, you talking about pig feet? No, hell no. They had another jar next to the... They had the one with the hoof in it? Oh, with the vinegar. So you had the egg with the vinegar in them.
02:09:33 With the vinegar. Yeah. Yeah. The most exotic I got. No, but you could eat everything on the pig. You eat, you know, you eat... You make hog the pig. You eat, you know, you eat, you make hog head cheese, you make, you know,
02:09:49 obviously you eat the snout. Yeah. Cow tongue, you ain't never had no cow tongue? No. You eat no ox tail? No, no. This man here what where do you find that
02:10:09 you can find oxtail in the grocery store neck no no yeah man they used to have this place up in Denver called Buckhorn what is it Ikehorn but they used to have you name
02:10:24 a meat they had it. Like they had bear, they'd have yak, you had anything. Gator. You ever had any alligator? You know, you gotta You ain't got no alligators in Cali. Yeah, I see. We ate
02:10:41 mountain oysters. Who? Mountain oysters, which is the testicles of a cow or a hog. You know what's going to happen, huh? I'm going to go. What I'm going to do is, after this,
02:10:55 I'm going to write down all the meats and then I'm going to go to PETA and I'm going to say, you might need to check Shannon Sharp House, man. They got all kinds of exotic shit. I don't need no more.
02:11:06 But no, they got a farmer's market in Georgia on Buford. I think it's on Buford Highway. I think that's where it is. But they got the ducks hanging up. They got all kind of stuff. You name them, they got rabbit. You name them, they got it. You mean this? Okay. Yeah, I've never... Yeah.
02:11:22 Yeah. I watch Rush Hour, so I seen, you know, like, me hanging in the alley and stuff, but I was the buy. I thought that was just for looks. Like, you know, you let your parents go hang it up here.
02:11:36 No. Hey, Chad, let me ask you this question. Is Brussels sprouts an appetizer? I had a meeting today, and this, uh, I had a meeting today and this, I ain't gonna call her name, but she ordered, she's like,
02:11:50 they asked for appetizers. So, you know, got spinach dip. She said, let me get the Brussels sprouts. Brussels sprouts ain't no damn appetizer. I had a girl who ordered that for dinner. That was just what she wanted to eat.
02:12:03 See? Let me just get some Brussels sprouts. That's called gas to me. Oh, I don't mess with Brussels sprouts. I juice. It was like 2010 when I was in Orlando and I was going through my juice diets and I threw the Brussels sprouts in
02:12:21 and that was the worst gas I've ever had. So I ain't never eaten a Brussels sprout since. See, that's me. Yeah. I stay away from stuff that might cause, because I already know. My stomach. Yeah.
02:12:35 Apples. Like, when I'm on the road, I don't eat no apples. I only eat apples at my house. Yeah, yeah. So it's just certain things that I, yeah. And I don't know why they keep putting them in my room, Joe. Man, they been ahead of me the whole day. I'm like five or six. I'm like, bro, I'm not eating these.
02:12:52 Because I'm about to get on this plane and go home. So, yeah. Yeah, 74%. So, I'm going to give her a call tomorrow and let her know that 74% said Brussels sprouts is not an appetizer. But that's what she wanted for an appetizer. Thank you.
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