Nightcap - Nightcap - Lakers survive Pelicans, Warriors lose to Kings, Last ride for Steph, Klay & Daymond?

Episode Date: April 17, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Gilbert Arenas react to LeBron James putting up 23/9/9 to lead the Los Angeles Lakers over Zion Williamson and the New Orleans Pelicans in the NBA Play-In Tournament to set up a fir...st round matchup with Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets, Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors taking on Domantas Sabonis and the Sacramento Kings, Shannon getting pushback for his take on the No. 1 seed Oklahoma City Thunder and much more! 03:00 - Introduction 5:00 - Lakers beat Pelicans 25:30 - Kings beat Warriors 30:30 - Will Klay Thompson be back after having scoreless game? 38:00 - Thunder criticized as one of the weakest No. 1 seeds  43:00 - Unc doesn't understand how Marc Gasol won DPOY over LeBron, but wasn’t on 1st team All-NBA 55:30 - Team USA basketball roster finalized 01:02:30 - Blake Griffin retires - How will we remember him? 01:04:00 - WNBA considering expansion  01:08:30 - Should Lakers try to acquire Klay Thompson this offseason? 01:16:00 - Best advice you’ve ever received from a teammate 01:21:00 - Top 5 actors of all-time (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)      #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:21 Hey, go like, go subscribe, and help him get these subs up. Gil, we're going to jump right into it. The Lakers hold off the Pelicans in the play-in tournament. They win 110 to 106. They beat them by 16, I think, on Sunday. With that win, the Lakers now face the defending champs. The Lakers are the seventh seed.
Starting point is 00:04:38 They face the two-seed Nuggets in the first round of the playoffs, which start Saturday. The Pelicans will play the Sacramento Kings in an elimination game for an opportunity to host, excuse me, not to host, but to play the OKC Thunder, who are the number one seed. LeBron James had a team-high 23 points to go along with nine assists, nine rebounds. D'Lo had it going pretty good tonight, 21 points,
Starting point is 00:05:02 seven assists on 5'11 from three. AD put up 20 points, Notched the game. High 15 rebounds. Zion Williamson. 40 points, but walked to the locker room late in the ball game with what Willie Green later described as left leg soreness.
Starting point is 00:05:19 For you to leave a game of that magnitude, I think it's a little bit more than soreness we'll talk about that as we go Gail but what did you okay Shams where is it at uh huh well y'all got Shams on
Starting point is 00:05:35 speed or something Shams is reporting it's a left hamstring injury left hamstring injury like Left hamstring injury. Like I said, Gale, you're not leaving a game of this magnitude with so much on the line with a little soreness. You're going to play through that because guess what?
Starting point is 00:05:56 You win that ball game, you get Wednesday off, you get Thursday off, you get Friday off, and you have an opportunity to play Saturday. If you lose this game, guess what? You got to flip it around and play Thursday, and then you have to probably play again on Saturday if you were to win that game. So we knew something was seriously going on with Gale with that situation. Excuse me. Okay, Sean says it's believed that he suffered a left hamstring injury
Starting point is 00:06:23 tonight. Tests are coming Wednesday. Zion and Brandon Ingram combined for eight total minutes in the fourth quarter. It seems like B.I. was on a minutes restriction because, Gale, you remember he missed the previous 12 games with that left knee contusion. He played Sunday on a minutes restriction, played tonight on a minutes restriction. But what you saw tonight, the Lakers, they pull it out, jump out to a big lead, got a little reckless, got a little careless,
Starting point is 00:06:50 ended up closing the ball game out late. What did you like about what you saw from the Lakers besides the win, and what did you dislike? You know, D'Lo came out playing very well right uh he's uh jump started um you know that first that first half right you know he hit some big big threes you know to get the game going and then from there we played pretty solid you know i'm not gonna lie um there's a couple times where we do a lot of standing around a bunch of plays that just doesn't make sense logistically. I remember AD bringing the ball.
Starting point is 00:07:33 LeBron is right next to him. Instead of giving LeBron the ball to do a pick and roll, he brings it up. They do some phantom stuff to give LeBron the ball to do the same pick and roll. Why are we out here wasting energy like this from there, I did like Gabe, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:49 I'm going to talk about his real name. He deserve it. Right. Um, I don't, I'm not sure how he picks up girls being an NBA player cause he's little. So I know that gets a little confusing sometimes. And I'm pretty sure he has to prove he has to pull out some ID on that one.
Starting point is 00:08:07 But for the most part, I think we played solid. Only eight turnovers? You can live with that, Gil. You got seven blocks. You had eight steals. You only had eight turnovers. You forced 12 turnovers. So you can live with that i just thought
Starting point is 00:08:27 late in the shot clock uh lebron let him off the hook bro why are you holding the ball you dribble the ball for 12 seconds you hold it and then you throw up a shot with like three two six or three two one bro get especially because the outfits had grown stagnant so now let's get some type of action that we get somebody moving instead of just standing around. LeBron go to the pick and roll. He gets the switch. He throws the hand up.
Starting point is 00:08:51 They throw it to him. And now he's at the top of the key. Everybody's standing around. What you going to do, LeBron? You going to make a move? You going to drive? You going to drive and kick? What are you looking for?
Starting point is 00:09:00 I just thought there was a lot of that, especially the last five minutes of the ballgame, Gil. I thought there was too lot of that, especially the last five minutes of the ballgame, Gil. I thought there was too much of that going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We it's it's yeah, it seemed like we were just trying to get the game away. You know, it became a basket for basket at the end. There was too much hope, you know, the last two minutes we made. We just made more plays at the end.
Starting point is 00:09:28 But my thing with a team like Pelicans, why would you have a player or minute restriction? Either you play them or you don't. Because if you lose this game,
Starting point is 00:09:46 you have another game. Right? So don't put minute restrictions, lose this, then minute restrictions the next game too. You know what I mean? So either you should have went all out to win this game or
Starting point is 00:09:58 see you Thursday anyway. I just don't like the whole idea of minute restrictions because that means you're not following the game in real time. That means you're clock watching and if you're clock watching, if he's playing well, you're going to take him out at the wrong time, which always
Starting point is 00:10:14 usually happens. I didn't like that idea and hopefully Denver does that in the first round. Murray's on minute restriction. I need a Murray
Starting point is 00:10:30 is fine, but if we get playing somewhere around 25 to 30 minutes a night, I'll be okay with that. Yeah, I agree. I thought, but LeBron seemed tired tonight because I saw him miss like three or four layups, Gil. I'm talking about point blank. I'm talking about I could have made those.
Starting point is 00:10:47 But it seemed like his legs, you know, he played. He played a lot of minutes the other night. And then the comeback, he played 41 minutes tonight. It's nice because at one point, Gil, he was five or nine. He ended up six or 20. I think he missed like nine shots in a row. Yeah, no. Yeah, no, yeah. He did miss them easy, easy, easy
Starting point is 00:11:08 around the rim buckets. You know, it happens, right? You know, especially with someone like him. He gets to the gym one, two o'clock and he's preparing for the game. So he's really on his feet
Starting point is 00:11:24 and doing a lot of active work. When he's preparing for the game so he really on his feet and doing a lot of active work when when he's when he's energized looks great when he's normal looks great but those days where he looks fatigued yeah he's really fatigued one time he kind of got he was going a little bit too fast he's made a great move and then he was traveling too fast. He missed a couple of point blank. Zion got him from behind. He did a... He been doing that his whole goddamn career. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:11:55 He don't have no brakes. He wants speed. Once he get going, once he get going, it's hard to stop a dump truck going 40 miles an hour. Because if you're not paying attention, you're slamming in the back of somebody. But they were able to pull it out. Like I said, Zion was playing unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:12:11 He came out tonight. He was extremely aggressive. He wasn't going to make you make him settle for jump shots. He was dipping that shoulder, got a couple of charges, but I'm going to the basket. Now stop me. 40 points, 11 rebounds, 5 assists, a steal,
Starting point is 00:12:28 a block. In 36 minutes, 17 of 27 from the field, 6 of 9 from the free throw line. I thought Zion played unbelievable. Herb Jones hit a big three. He walked into a three, kind of got their rhythm going. Alvarado, you know, Grand Theft
Starting point is 00:12:43 Alvarado, you know know he came in just doing what he normally does picking people's pockets uh but it's gonna be a very interesting matchup well look i'm not giving them much of a chance if zion doesn't play if zion doesn't play i'm not picking them to beat sacramento i'm sorry and that's you know i don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to like minimize someone, but Zion, the way he was playing tonight and he's a central piece and B.I. is probably going to be on another minutes restriction. And C.J., C.J., you know, he came back down there because for the last 10 games, C.J. would have been off the charts, especially like last seven games. I think he was averaging like 30.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Shooting 50% from the three. He came in reality. Zion. Zion, look. Whatever money that he lost last year, he earned it. He earned it back. The three years that wasn't guaranteed, he earned it. He earned it back.
Starting point is 00:13:45 The three years that wasn't guaranteed, he earned that money back. Right. You know, he played 70 something games. He came, he came towards the end. He was playing great basketball.
Starting point is 00:13:58 So I know they're hopeful going into the summer, going into next year. So, you know, them getting to the playoffs or not is really not important to them right now. The fact that you finally have a healthy Zion going into the summer.
Starting point is 00:14:13 You know, I don't know how this hamstring is. Hopefully it's not too serious where he's not missing big chunks of time in the summer. So I'm very, very proud of the guy. And, you know, I can't wait to see what he does next year. But for them as a group, I mean, they can just let it go. So because they won this ball game, the Lakers are the seventh seed. I mean, the seventh seed.
Starting point is 00:14:41 They play the two seed, which is the defending champs, the Denver Nuggets. Last year against the Nuggets, against the Lakers, Nikola Jokic averaged 28 points, 14.5 rebounds, 12 assists on 51% shooting from the floor, 47% from the three, hence sweep, sweep. What does the Lakers have to do do because the lakers are the best team in the clutch uh last five minutes game within five points pulled another one out tonight them and the mavericks had the best records in the nba so we know the lakers know how to win close
Starting point is 00:15:18 ball games although you couldn't probably tell from last year because they had a couple of situations where the nuggets just out executed and put them in the pick and roll dribble drive handoff with Yoke and Murray and Murray took the game over. If he didn't take it over, Yoke took it over. So what do the Lakers need to do? Because you're not going to stop him, but you got to slow him down. You can't let him have 28, 15 and 12. It's not last year, but you know,
Starting point is 00:15:49 the confidence is on Denver's side, of course. We are a great last five minute team against everybody but Denver. But the Nuggets, right? The way they play the game, we know
Starting point is 00:16:11 between the two stars, they are making every single play. Right? Either Kirby's making a play for himself or others, or Jokic is making a play for himself or others. So in the last five minutes, those two guys are generating everything that's going on.
Starting point is 00:16:29 If it's a close game, we have to, the Lakers have to understand that there's two guys, two guys only. They're going to play the two-man game and we have to figure out how to control it.
Starting point is 00:16:43 And on offense, we don't need no defense inside the game, right? And Torian Prince, I'm sorry, not right now, right? Not right now. Put Rui in, put Reeves in, have D-Lo. If we're going to play two-man game, we need all shooting threats on the court. We don't need nobody trying to play
Starting point is 00:17:08 defense because the guy you're going to be guarding is sitting in a... You're going to be guarding KCP. He ain't going nowhere. He's going to be in the corner somewhere. We don't need your expert defense in the corner. Therefore, you don't need to be on the court right now.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Hopefully, we don't have one of those defensive lineups in the game at the wrong time. Other than that, we're going to need COVID 2024. Shut it down. AD's going to need to play like he played when they were in the bubble and he went up against Jokic. He's going to have to probably give you slightly more than what he averaged. He's probably going to have to be somewhere around 28 and 15 a game
Starting point is 00:17:49 because he's going to have to look. If you say you're two stars, if you say LeBron and AD neutralize, so whatever they give you offensively, AD and LeBron, whatever Jokic and Murray gives you offensively, LeBron and AD gives you offensively. Now you make it a series Michael Porter Jr. Aaron Gordon and KCP
Starting point is 00:18:11 against Rui, D-Lo and Austin Reeves we can win that listen if we get the D-Lo if we get I'm about to cut your ass, D-Lo. If we get him, they good. Hey, hey, they should be telling me, hey, we about to ship your ass to Niagara Falls.
Starting point is 00:18:39 You better get in here and get the buckets. If we get D-Lo playing how D-Lo's been playing and not that D'Lo we had last year in the playoff, well, in that round, we should be fine. Because he has to match Murray point for point. If he can if Murray's averaging 20 and D'Lo's
Starting point is 00:18:57 averaging about 15, we win in that series. But if he got four, he can't do that. You know, they come off the bench, Reggie Jackson. So our bench is going to have to – and Bron, those are your energy guys. Those are the guys, you know, when you're at home, the crowd get behind you. He's going to get a couple of rebounds. He's going to get a lob.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Reggie, you know, Reggie Jackson, man, he plays good in big games, Gil. He does. You know what? I'm going to just say, listen, we just got to put some Detroit Pistons signs out there. Because for some reason, just put the Detroit Pistons signs out there. Hopefully, he reverts back. But this is like my last week of rooting for my Lakers. Unfortunately, I got hit with a, what is that called?
Starting point is 00:19:55 We had to do full teams out of a hat. I think it was rigged because they gave me the two teams that I don't like. Right? I got Doc. You done the first round. And Milwaukee. So I got to root for them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And then I have the Clippers. So I got to root for the Clippers. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully I lose both so I can start voting for Malekas again but I got a straight chip for the Bucs and the Clippers
Starting point is 00:20:31 without Yanni first of all the Bucs were struggling with Indiana with Yanni's because that's not a good matchup Indiana's looking to push the pace Brooke Lopez ain't keeping up Porter's not keeping up and so that's not a good matchup. Indiana's looking to push the pace. Brooke Lopez ain't keeping up. Porter's not keeping up. And so, that's
Starting point is 00:20:48 not a good matchup for them. We have a poll up right now. Gale, do the Lakers have a chance against the Nuggets? Lakers in seven, 46%. Gentlemen sweep, 31%. Sweep, 13%. Nuggets in seven, 10%. So, we got a lot
Starting point is 00:21:04 of Laker fans here because they say the Lakers are going to take it to seven. Woo! Uh-oh. All right, look, I got a couple more days because once the playoffs start, I'm a Flipper fan. More new poll, more delusional fans. Laker fans or Cowboys? Cowboys running away with this.
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Starting point is 00:23:51 The Kings beat the Warriors tonight, 118-94. Keegan Murray had 32 points, 9 rebounds on 8 of 13, shooting from the 3-point line. He had more points and 3s than the Splash Brothers combined. Golden State spent $382.5 million on their roster this season 205 million dollars 206 million dollars in salary and 177 million in the t and the tax penalty luxury tax was this the last time we see the big three as we know it because Steph's clay really, really struggled tonight. If I'm not mistaken, he was over 10 from the floor. And I think he was like over six from the three point line.
Starting point is 00:24:32 So do you believe, Gil, this was the last time that we see the big three as we know it? You know what? I have no idea. To be honest, because if Clay's going to take a pay cut, then yes. I'm pretty sure he'll sign back. I know making the case
Starting point is 00:24:58 this is when you know Clay is really having a hard time not being signed. The fact that you've already had a horrible season, right? The one game you can get to get your value back up, you put out a zero, which is the first time he was scoreless in about 159 playoff games. His worst playoff performance is the last thing we're going to remember when he's going into free agency. So if I'm him, I don't know if he signs a one-year deal.
Starting point is 00:25:42 If he wants a four-year deal, it's going to be four-year 30. It ain't going to be what his real value is. So whoever gets them, they stealing them. Right. So I don't see him going anywhere else. I do see Warriors getting him for a very cheap price. It seems like he only shoots really good against the Lakers. Think about every time he comes to the crib, how he shoots the ball, Gil.
Starting point is 00:26:12 You remember the last two times he showed up? Yeah. Shot the Lakers out of the building. Steve Kerr said after the loss, we need Klay back. He still has good years left. We desperately want him back. Chris Paul, 19 seasons, zero championships. Only Vince Carter, 22 seasons.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Jamal Crawford, 20 seasons. Have played more seasons without winning a ring. Is Chris Paul back? No, he ain't back. Oh, this is Chris Paul's first. This is the first, this is the first time he missed the playoffs in about 14 years.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Woo, I know he's salty. Because he's a competitor, right? Well, you know, he's a competitor, so. Well, right now, Gil, he competed against Father Tide. He ain't competing against nobody on the court. It's Father Tide.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And Father T time with it. You know what I mean? I feel sorry for those guys, right? The Chris Pauls, the Steve Nash, the John Stockton's. Because of this, the idea of who they are,
Starting point is 00:27:26 right? They are there to get you better. To make you look better than you really are. There's guys Chris Paul made look good that got paychecks off of his passing ability.
Starting point is 00:27:42 The fact that these guys are not being rewarded with the ring, it's like, why do you do it? You got guys out here scoring 30, 40, winning rings. You got guys averaging full five points, starting winning rings, and a guy who's delivering contracts. That's what he out there, delivering contracts. And then he goes and he can't complete his career.
Starting point is 00:28:11 But I look at it like this. Him winning the ring doesn't put him above. He's not above. You know what I mean? If he's not in front of John Stockton, you win a ring at the end of your career, you play in minimal minutes, that doesn't do it for me. Like, you winning a ring being the guy lets me know where you are.
Starting point is 00:28:33 So if you're in front of John Stockton or not in front of John Stockton, that's where you are with or without me. You don't get in front of him because you win a ring coming off the bench averaging four points. That's not how it works. So what of the war? You hear Steve Kerr, what's he supposed to say? I think he said all the things that a head coach is supposed to say.
Starting point is 00:28:54 In that situation, we won't step, we won't play back. We believe Clay has years left. But you don't get to be as wealthy as Joe Lacob and Peter Gruber by spending $177 million and missing the playoffs. Cause guess what? You can slash payroll considerably and Mr. Playoffs. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah. But, but, um, they're, they're in this real like I'm pretty sure they're going to offload Wiggins.
Starting point is 00:29:29 They're going to offload Wiggins. Their first thing is going to see what they can get Clay for. If you can get what they offered for the four-year 40. Yeah. Two-year 48.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Right. Two year 48? Right. Two year 30? Right. Two year 35? He takes it. I'll take Clay back for that price. Right? Two year 35?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Two year 30? Yeah, I'm taking that. He's not going to get that money anywhere else. So I'm pretty sure they're going to off Wiggins give Kaminga that spot. I don't mind
Starting point is 00:30:12 for Andrew Wiggins. You can have my Commodore album. What about BT Express? Would you like to have cameo? Hold on, hold on. You know what? I'm going to Ohio players.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Oh, you still got me. I got LT. Hold on. I got LTD. Yeah. Yeah got LTD. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. LTD stranger.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I got Atlantic star. Yeah. Elements of the universe. Never heard of Earth, Wind and Fire. No. Arcade. Nope. Now you can't have all these.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I will give you about five. I got big lady with you. Cause or five of them I got Big Lenny Williams because I love you hey open eyes another earth winning fire I got T.P. and last but not least so
Starting point is 00:31:17 I'll give you four of those for Andrew Williams that's all I got I ain't got no players I'm just going to say they're going to reject that I'll give you four of those for Andrew Wheaton. That's all I got. I ain't got no players. I'm just going to say they're going to reject that because I don't even think they got a machine that can play that. Hey, and I'll throw the penny in to hold it down so it don't skip on you. So you take that penny down. And you throw in that Wheies box with everybody's sign? Nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I was thinking an even swap ain't no swindle. I throw the Wheaties box in there, I'm getting swindled now. That ain't no even swap. It's hard to say because for the Golden State. Can you still be the Warriors with no clay? No. Because the reason I say that is. Look, yeah, we just won a championship a few years ago with this team. I think once Clay gets
Starting point is 00:32:28 his... This is just one of those years. All the elements that life hit now. I mean, thinking about that money, wanting that money, and it probably got to him all season.
Starting point is 00:32:44 He probably needed to get on that boat, you know, shed this season. It happens. You've been great for a long time, right? You know, you battle, you battle as you need. Nobody thought you was going to be the same. You won a championship. People talk about it like,
Starting point is 00:32:59 it happens, right? You know, you just gotta, you can't just, this is one of those, like be be grateful of the career you had reflect on right what you've accomplished so you know where you're going next right i think sometimes we we're not living in real time. Right. So we feel depressed, not realizing this legacy we actually done accomplished. And I think he needs to sit back and look at the trail he done laid, the foundation he done laid for his kids, his family, himself. Right. And I think once you see what he has done and sat back, jumped out of his body and said, Oh no,
Starting point is 00:33:47 I really, I was really that dude coming into next season. The pressure's gone. You, you think the warriors regret getting rid of, rid of pool and maybe tried to move on from Wiggins. I think they regret a lot of things. Um,
Starting point is 00:34:05 who are going there? Obviously they thought he was going to be a good guy. Wiggins? I think they regret a lot of things. Who will go in there? Obviously they thought he was going to be the replacement of Steph and he showed in Washington that he just can't handle the pressure. That's why he's part of it there because he didn't have to be the dude to go.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Yeah, true. But what happens is when Clay and Curry Lee, he's supposed to be the guy to step up, a tweening type of guy. It was a rough one. He's that tweener. He's like Deontay Murray. Oh, Deontay.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Deontay. In Atlanta? The one that Spurs traded, right? Yeah. Deontay Murray? Oh, Deontay. Deontay. In Atlanta? The one that Spurs traded, right? Yeah, Deontay. Yeah. He's that tweener right now. I like him. He's more stable.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Well, Weissman might have been. That was their mess up. Going after a big man knowing you don't use big men. You don't have the offense for that guy. That's the year you should have picked LaMelo Ball. You would have had LaMelo and... You would have had LaMelo and what's the name? And Poole
Starting point is 00:35:25 yeah now that's a hell of a future backcourt oh well they got some decisions now watching the Olympics Wiggins go out there and try to get to USA by folding
Starting point is 00:35:39 everybody try to get to the red, white, blue, once they get to the Olympics. If he go to Olympics and, if he goes to the Olympics and score 20, they should whoop his ass when he get back to go. It's time for our first segment of the night, Gil, and it's called a news cap.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I guess, Gil, I said something today. I went viral for saying that OKC is the weakest number one overall seed we've seen recently. For the win, wrote an article that Ash couldn't wait to bring to my attention they wrote if you had to guess how many how many oklahoma city thunder games do you think shannon sharp is what more do you think uh if i'm being completely honest i'm sitting the over under at five um considering that you writing this that's another here and there and that feels like i'm being a little generous because there's just absolutely no way Sharp has tapped into that many Thunder games this year. And with all that, he has
Starting point is 00:36:49 to do. Let's see what Sheldon Sharp jobs requires him to do. Watch games, Dundum! I guess it's presumptual for me to think that Sharp has to watch many Thunder games this year. But honestly, the only way I could imagine someone coming up with a hot take,
Starting point is 00:37:06 he pulled out on first take today. Guys, sometimes when guys have an opinion, it's just not a hot take. That's just my opinion. I don't think anybody's like, oh, my God, please let us avoid the Thunder. Like they used to do, okay, like they did the Warriors. Like ain't nobody really try to get like they did the warriors. Like they'd like, ain't nobody's really tried to get up to play the nuggets or, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:28 obviously, you know, the Colby Lakers and things of that nature. Or when LeBron was in the East, wasn't nobody trying to see LeBron, but that ain't no high take, bro. I'm just,
Starting point is 00:37:38 I'm looking at your team. Yeah. Your team won 57 games. You're the number one seed, but you're young. You're not battle tested. So teams that are battle tested looking at y'all like, okay, yeah, we want
Starting point is 00:37:48 y'all. I know the Lakers would have given anything to play OKC in the first round. Oh, no, that's facts. But did he have facts to back up his statement that they're not the worst number one team in history?
Starting point is 00:38:08 No, or not in history, but in the last 10 years. Yeah, the only team that I can think of that would be worse, but they were they were a star studded. No, that wasn't star. He was a star, but he didn't play that much that year. After the lockout, the Bulls, the Derrick Rose Bulls, it was that 50-16,
Starting point is 00:38:36 that 50-16 team. Well, Derrick missed 23 games that year, right? And that team, they were starting shit. Carlos Boozer, Luau Dane,
Starting point is 00:38:52 CJ Watson, I think Old Rip came off the bench. Joe Kim Noah. Nobody averaged. That team didn't even average more than 15 points. They ended up losing in the first
Starting point is 00:39:07 round. But because Derrick Rose missed so many games, I would say they would have been the worst number one because he missed games due to just the ankle injury there.
Starting point is 00:39:24 OKC, they're young, of course, right? Not experienced. The difference is they played. The main starting five all played 70-plus, right? Very young, play together, play smart, hungry, right? With young teams, egos are in check, right? They have a problem coming up later on, but as of right now, everyone knows their roles.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Shea has played in two total playoff series, and 2019 with the Clippers, and 2020 with the Thunder. He's 0-2 in those series. They're a young team. I like the Williams kid. He's turning himself into a star. He can stroke it, put the ball on the floor, get to the rim.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I like him. They got some young, talented players. I like Chet. Chet's going to challenge stuff at the rim, stretch five, can shoot the three. Hey, he's going to protect the plane. He's coming. So you're constantly on high alert knowing that he's lurking
Starting point is 00:40:28 back there to probably throw your shot in the stands. But I didn't think I would say it was that outlandish. It wasn't. It is not. I mean, come on. They know they're 22. But that's the reason
Starting point is 00:40:46 that Shea should be considered the MVP because this is the youngest. No one expected them to be here. This is a college-age team. No one battle-tested. No one is even all NBA anything. Most of these guys
Starting point is 00:41:01 barely made the rookie sophomore game. These guys have no experience and they're here. They get flowers. Because as much as we're looking at this team for the future, this is it.
Starting point is 00:41:18 They can't afford Jalen Williams, Chet, Josh Giddey. They can't afford this team. These guys are playing to a point where they're all going to be a max or super max player. And the fact that they signed Dort to that money
Starting point is 00:41:34 kind of messes up the next person that's coming, which would be Jalen. Because you got to save money for Chet. So that means Josh, you out of there, son. Let's feel accolade. All our time leaves. Gore has not earned it. His luster career is short,
Starting point is 00:41:50 but he revealed on the shot there is one particular that bugs him. Let's take a listen to what Goat James had to say about the war that just gnaws at it. Is there an award you haven't won that still stings? Yeah, defensive player of the year. Defensive player of the year.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Yeah. I mean, that's the only award that I don't have in my house that kind of stings. I've talked about this before. It don't make sense. It's almost like what J.J. said about B, how can she have the most Grammys, but never won album of the year.
Starting point is 00:42:22 So the year I finished second in defensive player of the year award, the guy who won defensive player of the year didn't even make first team all defense. That doesn't make sense. That's not even possible. I said it at the time that it happened. How do you have an, how do you have, let's just say, how do you have an MVP of a sport and he's not first team all pro or he's not.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Mark Gasol is your defensive player of the year and he's not first team all defense. That makes. Tell me a scenario. That or MVP that doesn't make the MVP that he's not an all pro or an MVP that doesn't make the all. I'm like, come on, bro. What y'all doing here? Did they ever release the voting chart to see how those votes from because it looks like he got a whole bunch of. He got a whole bunch of he got a whole bunch of
Starting point is 00:43:25 votes for first place and probably damn near last. Right? There was no in the middle. I don't think that's ever happened in history where there was a defensive player of the year award and it's not even an MVP but he makes
Starting point is 00:43:41 second team. How do you justify? How can somebody justify that? The league MVP is second team all NBA. Because that's what you had. You had a defensive player of the year that was second team all defense. You know what? I'm going to just play devil's advocate here.
Starting point is 00:44:04 If I'm Marcos Sol, I'll say the same thing LeBron is saying. I was robbed. I won defensive player of the year and they put me on second team. But you know, back then, that's when LeBron could sit in the chair. It didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:44:20 He could take your best player and late in the ball game, they would put him at the five and he'd have to guard Tim Duncan. And he could do that. Now, not for the entirety of the game. Say the last three to four minutes, they're like, hey, we got to go. This is what we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:44:36 And he could do that. You put him in the pick and roll, he could go. Hey, y'all remember D. Rose when he was MVP and LeBron locked him up? Legitimately, he could guard one. Yeah. When did Martin
Starting point is 00:44:56 Soule ever become a defensive player? I mean, Tony Allen was the defensive player. It was a grid and grind team, but I mean, it was just one of those team but I mean it was 2012 that just shouldn't happen 2013 yeah
Starting point is 00:45:11 2012 2013 yeah but also you have to remember this too and this is why we need to go to just the AI voting this would have been the Michael Jordan scenario MVP he had won finals MVP this would have been the Michael Jordan scenario. They didn't want to get into it.
Starting point is 00:45:25 MVP, defensive player of the year. He had won finals, he would have been finals MVP, defensive player of the year. He would have had finals MVP champion. He would have had the same, it would have been the same run
Starting point is 00:45:39 and they took it from him. Right. That's, you can't preserve history. You can't do it from them. Right. That that's you can't preserve history. You can't do it. It's wrong. Like some of the things that they do is just wrong for sports. You're you're you're taking accolades from people and then you're using what you did against them.
Starting point is 00:45:59 You are cheating these people. And then you say, well, you're not good enough because you don't have this. Well, I don't have it because of your funky ass and that's the unfair part about it like even the final even that finals MVP where he averaged damn near 39 13 and 9
Starting point is 00:46:17 come on dog just stop you know who the best player was in the finals just give the man this goddamn trophy and keep it moving. No, there was a reason there was an outro. Oh, my. How do you win? You don't supposed to have that on awards.
Starting point is 00:46:34 When people second guess. If you gave it to LeBron, no one says nothing but skivviness. I just don't know. That year, LeBron was first team all defense. Like you said, that was when he was prime. He was in his absolute prime. He could sit in the chair for as long as you need him. He could play 40 minutes, guard your best one through four,
Starting point is 00:46:54 and if you laid the ball game, if you had a big, and you needed to go small, he could guard the five. And they robbed him of that opportunity. They robbed him. There ain't no way around it. Ain't nobody you going to look at him and say, Mark Gasol had a better defensive year than LeBron James. There's no way you can say it,
Starting point is 00:47:12 because if he had him, you should have put him on the first. How do the voters vote the man's second team, but you vote that, yeah, you should win the defensive player of the year? And that's as well like they should be like the two minute report the referee have two minute report they should have a report after they finish voting
Starting point is 00:47:37 to see what they were thinking because this is you know how they tell athletes we don't want don't be politicians we don't want, don't be politicians. We don't want to hear political stances from you, right? Shut up and dribble. Those 150 voters, some of them were probably saying the same thing too.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Some of them, we know, just looking at who they from and where they from they don't watch basketball how the hell do they get a vote how do some of these people have a vote in rights Marc Gasol received 31st place vote to win the award LeBron had 18 Joe Kim Noah was the center that made first team and he
Starting point is 00:48:20 had 13 first place votes yeah they just found a way not to give it. They was messing. They was tricky with the votes. Hey. You know,
Starting point is 00:48:34 we still got to have something to hang over LeBron's head because you know, he got his fourth MVP. You got four MVPs. He got two finals MVPs. Man, hey, defensive player of the year? Now what? He mess around
Starting point is 00:48:52 and go win or not? Hey, let's just... Because now you turn around and guess what? Giannis did it. And it's not like... What you call him as a defensive player of the year? I don't know if it was the same season. Was it the same season? I think, I think Elijah won.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Hakeem. Nah, 93. Hakeem won 93? 93? 93? That was the championship, 93? Yeah, because 94 on the final. Dream won defensive player of the year. And he was an MVP.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Yeah, I don't know the defense, but I don't know if the defense, because I never paid attention to defense, it didn't pay well. Offense pays well on this side. What? What? Yeah, he went back to back. 93-94
Starting point is 00:49:41 and he won the titles in 94-95. And he was the MVP and he won the titles in 94-95 and he was the MVP he was the MVP 93 93 yeah because that was 94
Starting point is 00:49:57 that was the year he put that work on David Robinson because David Robinson got the MVP remember David Robinson got the MVP and people thought Akeem should have got it. He said, okay. Don't worry about it. Don't even worry about it.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I believe, though, when you leave this series, you're going to know who should have been the MVP of the league. And he did a demolition job on David Robinson. He did a demolition job
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Starting point is 00:52:36 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, Kawhi Leonard got the 12th and final roster spot on Team USA for the 2024 Olympics the 11 players are LeBron James, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Joel Embiid, Anthony Davis, Devin Booker, Anthony Edwards, Jason Tatum, True Holiday, Bam Adebayo, Tyrese Halliburton, Steve Kerr was serving coach for Team USA. Kawhi is averaging 24.6 rebounds for the Clippers, but missed the final eight games of the regular season with knee inflammation and his surgically repaired
Starting point is 00:53:13 knee. Training camp and exhibition games start happening in Vegas, are scheduled for July. Might be out there by the end of that. But anyway, do you think Team USA win gold? but yeah they gonna win gold
Starting point is 00:53:31 they have enough talent on it I just don't like I just don't like the guard play it's too we gotta set an example and you're coming out there with Holiday and Halliburton right now when it should be
Starting point is 00:53:50 Kyrie and Brunson. Right? And this is how I look at it. I'm from I don't know what they've done after 96, but whatever it's been on it's been on some friendship bracelet type of picking.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Because 92 12 players 9 of the players were all NBA players. The weakest players were Magic, he didn't play that year, Bird,
Starting point is 00:54:20 and then we had Christian. Those were the three weakest. Everybody else all NBA players. Bird, and then we had Christian, right? Those were the three weakest leagues. Everybody else, all NBA players. The 96 team, all 12 players made the All-NBA that year. That means they were top 15 in the NBA. They took the best of the best. The team was so good that two players on the team came off the bench.
Starting point is 00:54:49 They were averaging 27 and 11. That was Hakeem and Shaquille O'Neal. They both came off the bench on the 96 team and they averaged 27 and 11 that season. That's what we had coming off the bench in 96. And you telling me you're trying to rock with Hallen Burton and I like Hallie because he's the number zero. But Drew Holiday, I don't need, God, I don't need
Starting point is 00:55:13 no defensive players. Who are you out there stopping? Hey, man, you know what I mean? Hey, the Europeans, man, they be putting us in a pick and roll. They be back there cutting us. We got to have somebody that can defend. Yeah, can't defend. Can't defend and won't put the ball in the back.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Give me Kyrie. He's going to put him in the mixture too. Gil, is that what gave... Think about it, because they got what? They got fourth at the World Cup. Biggs gave them a problem. Now, the question is, is Joel Embiid, how healthy is he going to be? I like Anthony
Starting point is 00:55:47 Davis as a big. I like Bam. I think we got Steph can shoot the ball, KD, Book, Ant-Man, JT. We got a solid team. I probably agree with you. I probably would have taken if you take Kyrie
Starting point is 00:56:03 and you take Jalen Brunson, I don't think anybody mad at you. You can't be. And they're going to be all NBA players this year. I'm going off the metrics that 96 and 90, our original teams did. They were the best players in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Holiday, listen, I love what he does, but you're the fourth best player on your team right now. I don't need you right now. Now, right now, right now. Listen, next year, next summer, right? If we got a game, you know, all, all, all NBA in the FIBA China,
Starting point is 00:56:41 we need someone to go represent the America. We can send you. This is the goal, baby. This is cool. Our parents is looking at this, right? We don't need you. We don't need you out there right now. All right? He can be a scout player.
Starting point is 00:57:00 He can be a scout player. He can't go. He can't get on the bus. He can't get on the plane. You don't get on the bus. He can't get on the play. Yeah, go out there and play some defense. Get everybody ready. You don't get the jersey. You can be an alternate. The Clippers picked up the tab on the concession during their final regular season game at the
Starting point is 00:57:14 Crypt Arena. Damn, had I known that, man, I would have went in there and ordered a hell of nachos, burgers, fries. Gil, we should have went to the game. Not going to no Clipper game, but how much? I mean, you think of 15,000, 16,000 people?
Starting point is 00:57:32 Alcohol? You know how much alcohol costs. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You mean, wait, hold on. Do you mean he picked it up before? So that means when people got up there, it was like free.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Ooh. That's what he reported. How did he know this? I mean, that was the least he could do. The man worth $170 billion. I don't know what I'm saying. Did any fans come out and say everything was free today?
Starting point is 00:58:04 ABC 7 reported it. Yeah, I'm not worrying about them. That's that gimmick. I'm talking about that any fans on their phone be like, oh, hey, come down to the Clipper game. Everything's free. I got 30 beers. None of that.
Starting point is 00:58:20 They probably like, you know how you got to do people, Gil. Two beers or one. You can't tell, hey, it's free because everybody's going to come in there. Let me get 12 beers, 16 hot dogs, and two
Starting point is 00:58:37 buns of popcorn. So we got to put limits on it. One beer, popcorn, hot dog, eat that, break your ass back. This ain't even your arena. Don't tell me how much I need to eat. Either it's free or not. Don't trick me.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I got a family to feed down there. They getting the ghetto. I got a family to feed down.. Clipper tickets, they getting the ghetto. I got a family to feed down. Guess what? I need all 60 hot dogs. I got my beer, got my hot dog. Deuces.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Deuces. I don't need to watch the game. I've seen people come to the movies, get movie popcorn and go home. Blake Griffin retired. That's funny. Six-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA, 2010-11 Rookie of the Year. All-Rookie Team, 2010-11 Rookie of the Year.
Starting point is 00:59:44 He also won the dunk contest by jumping over a parked car. How will you remember Blake Griffin? I remember him as a Clipper, and the Clippers is considered the City Girls of Los Angeles.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I mean, he twerked his way on to a nice little season. I mean, he twerked his way on to a nice little season. That's what he did. But isn't he only 33? Yeah, ain't he? What? He came in in
Starting point is 01:00:17 2011. Wait, remember he missed 2009 because of the injury. Remember he didn't play that year. He's 35. He's only like John Wall. He's 35? But them knees, 65.
Starting point is 01:00:36 His driver's license says he's 35. 35? You know, Lob City, Twerk City. You know, he'll be remembered shaking his little tail in the air. Right. That's it. Hey, listen, they're the Clippers, man.
Starting point is 01:00:54 We don't give them numbers. The WNBA is at 13 teams, including the new base area franchise, and they want it to be 16 in the next few years. Where should the WNBA expand to? WNBA family friendly, and it shows Midwest type of... Probably need a team in Tampa. They said South Florida, maybe Miami.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Because here's what... Let me give you the Miami. Let me give you the cities that they're contemplating. Philadelphia, Toronto, Denver, Portland, Nashville, South Florida. Nashville,
Starting point is 01:01:42 Louisville, Kentucky. They should have aville, Kentucky. They should have a team in Kentucky. Louisville. Yeah, you're right. Louisville. Right. Louisville.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Like they should have a, they should have a team out there because they already have an arena out there. They already have an arena that was meant for WNBA team. So they have an arena that already seats 19,000. The
Starting point is 01:02:07 women's team, I think they do around 10 to 12, which that can translate for the W anyway. They already have the support system for girls basketball or for women's now.
Starting point is 01:02:23 South Florida? Nah. I mean, they don't even want to go to the NBA games. So I will put that joint up in Tampa somewhere. Philly? Maybe. I'll do Tampa Kentucky
Starting point is 01:02:46 Philly man they had a team since the ABA the Colonels Kentucky Louisville that's that
Starting point is 01:02:58 whole area right Louisville you mentioned that oh hell no I said Louisville I said Louisville. I said Louisville. I said they got
Starting point is 01:03:08 I told you they already have a WNBA arena over there. I don't know about that. Y'all don't know about Louisville. No, it's funny. They built the arena thinking they were going to get a WNBA team. You probably need to have a WNBA team where they have an NBA presence.
Starting point is 01:03:26 So Philadelphia makes sense. Denver makes sense. That's how they did with the WNBA. Okay. What city? Why you think they ain't getting no love now? Why you think they ain't getting no love now?
Starting point is 01:03:41 If Aces is in the city, there ain't no NBA team out there lovely. They out there fun. You don't want no love now. If Aces is in the city, there ain't no NBA team out there. Lovely. They are the fun. You want to be with women. You don't want no other sport. You just want them so they can survive. That's all. They can survive. Yeah, so now
Starting point is 01:03:56 you're forced. That's why I said the Louisville, the girls run that city. So putting the WNBA team out there, they might have the biggest fan support. Houston. Where at, though?
Starting point is 01:04:16 What was the... I mean, it's all about where you'll fit. You got to put it in cities where they're big enough to support the team, and there's really nothing else there so they can focus. You got to treat it like college, right? Those big college programs, it's really old. You can put one in that North Carolina, Duke, that area, because you got three schools that's right there so you can put one in in the middle
Starting point is 01:04:47 of those three was it NC State right you got NC State you put one right there Durham and Chapel Hill yeah that's what I said I'll put one right there get those
Starting point is 01:05:03 three well you know that would be a great place to put one right there get those three they're going to put an NBA team in Vegas you know that and they probably want to do it sooner than later because I know LeBron wants to be in that mix Shaq
Starting point is 01:05:22 has said that he wants to be in that mix. Shaq has said that he wants to be in that mix. Unless he wants to be under LeBron, ain't no chance. Alright, Gil. It's time for our last segment of the night and it's a Q and
Starting point is 01:05:44 A. Time for our last segment of the night, and it's a Q&A. Goal standard. How many game sevens did Michael Jordan have in his finals? None. Never lost in the finals. Jordan is the goal. Not true. Not true. Not true.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Are they doing that? How many game sevens did he play? Upgrade KC and Nugget Guild. Clay to the Lakers off the bench. Yes or no? Also, how hungry and motivated are the Nuggets after winning the championship last year? Much love, gentlemen. Listen,
Starting point is 01:06:28 the Lakers will probably take a shot for him, and I'm pretty sure he'll start with the Lakers because that's the type of player LeBron loves. Guys can just flat out shoot it. I don't think Clay will leave everything he knows or come back home because
Starting point is 01:06:45 technically this is not his home anymore. This is where he grew up, but it's not his home. The Bay Area is his home. The Nuggets, how motivated are they since they won last year? I can tell you this, and this is the only reason I don't give Jokic,
Starting point is 01:07:04 I wouldn't vote Jokic the MVP. Every championship team that came back the following year dominated. They dominated. Bulls, Golden State, Lakers, San Antonio, they were on the mission the following
Starting point is 01:07:20 year. Nuggets wasn't on the mission this year, right? There's nothing really this year for a long period of time where we're like, Nuggets is killing, right? They never went on the killing spree, right?
Starting point is 01:07:36 Yeah, we know they're the most dangerous team because of Jokic, but they didn't, this year, they didn't seem like they put any real fear in anybody. It just seemed like they were just there. Just like, oh yeah, Nuggets, they won again, they won again.
Starting point is 01:07:52 They never really put foot to ask. I think they're very motivated because there are a lot of teams that won one in a row. You want to be special, you got to double it up. And you want to be really, really special, you know, you three-peat. There haven't been very many of those. Obviously, the Celtics won those eight straight in the 80s,
Starting point is 01:08:10 and then you had Shaq. I mean, you had Shaq in the early 2000s, and you had Jordan do two three-peats in the 90s. But it doesn't happen very often. The Lakers never three-peated. Hell, the Celtics, the great Celtics, they never went back-to-back. A lot of people don't realize, as great as they were, they never went back-to-back.
Starting point is 01:08:29 They won 81, 84, and 86. But they never went back-to-back. So, going back-to-back, obviously three-peats puts you in rarefied air. I don't believe, in my lifetime, hell, I wouldn't lie, when the Celtics, they were only 18 when they won their eight in a row. I don't believe in my lifetime. Hell, I wasn't alive when the Celtics,
Starting point is 01:08:46 they were only 18 when they won their eight in a row. I don't believe somebody. I don't believe somebody win three, four in today's because injuries. I mean, the freak now Golden State had Kevin Durant and I got hurt. They were going to win that one. They didn't want that one. Yeah, but. Yeah, I mean, it could happen because these
Starting point is 01:09:09 these players now want to win they know their legacy is built on winning so it could happen where someone like a Paul George takes his talents to Denver and just say I want to win and if they win this year now you added Paul George takes his talents to Denver and just say, I want to win.
Starting point is 01:09:25 And if they win this year, now you added Paul George instead of KCP changes your team. So, so those are, that's the type of stuff that can happen in the last, in today. In the last, what?
Starting point is 01:09:41 In the last decade, what? I mean, you got to go back to what? In the last 20 years, you probably only had three, let's see who went back to back. Braun went back to back with Miami.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Kobe went back to back. And Steph went back to back. That's it, just three back to backs. Well, that's it just three back to back well I mean that's what I'm saying what was the urgent let's see 99, 2000, 2001
Starting point is 01:10:16 yeah the Lakers the Celtics the Celtics won in eight straight and then you got Jordan two three-peats in the 90s and then the Lakers, the Celtics, the Celtics won in eight straight. And then you got Jordan two three-peats in the 90s and then the Lakers, what did they do? What was it? 2001-2?
Starting point is 01:10:32 Or 99-2000? 99-2000, 2001, and 2002? Yeah. Yeah, because the Spurs won in 0-2. Spurs won in 99? Yes. Spurs won in 0-2. Spurs won in 99?
Starting point is 01:10:48 Yes, Spurs 99. That was the strike year. That was the strike year. And then the Lakers. Huh? 0-2. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Lakers in 2000, 2001, 2002. So if the Nuggets went back-to-back, we're going to look at them different, Gil. We just do because it doesn't happen that often. And when you look at some of that, you look at the great 76ers team, they didn't repeat. The great Celtics, they didn't repeat. So, you start talking, I mean,
Starting point is 01:11:19 in NBA, repeats are rare. Yeah, repeats are rare. Yeah, repeats are rare. But look, we ain't got to worry about that because Lakers about to beat the men with about six. So we ain't got to worry about that. They better not let that happen. Lakers is six.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Lakers is six. And you know what's so funny? And this is how the world works. If Lakers do upset Denver, nobody's going to make it a big deal. No one's going to say, oh, my God, this upset happened. They're going to be like, well, yeah, LeBron, they got the team to do it. No one's going to be surprised if it happens. No. But you know
Starting point is 01:12:06 what they're going to say? Michael Jordan wouldn't even have been in the play-in tournament. Well, hey, hold on. The Lakers wasn't in the play-in tournament either. They was legit A-seed.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Hassan Thomas, what's up? I'll trade you anybody off the grid except Ja and Bane for those albums. Alright. Give us Jaron Jackson and Gigi Jackson. And now you got a deal. Give us
Starting point is 01:12:43 what's up. My question is, what is the best what is the best advice you've gotten for a coach or given to a teammate don't let Stephen A talk about your suit game what's the best advice the best the best advice I ever got was from Chris Mullen.
Starting point is 01:13:09 And I remember I was training and he asked me, he said, you know, what's your goal? And I told him my goal was to be in the NBA. He said, okay, you're here. Now what's your next goal? I said, what do you mean? He's like, if your goal as a child was to be in the NBA, you're in the NBA. Are you going to give up? To move to star status, you need another goal now.
Starting point is 01:13:44 You made it here. Don't be an NBA player. That's the worst thing you can be as a NBA in the NBA, NBA player that the NBA players, they want to party, drink, enjoy the life. Like you sacrifice to get here.
Starting point is 01:14:01 You have to sacrifice while you're here to become what your next dream is so he so i basically said well i never thought about it can i get some time went home thought about it came back the next day and then from there i understood how to train your journey was to get to the wmba. Now a new journey starts once you're here. The best advice I got, Mike Shanahan gave me. He told me, he said, you never accept anything
Starting point is 01:14:30 in a win you wouldn't in a loss. A lot of times, you accept things in a win because we won and you say as well, winning masks everything. But had you lost that game,
Starting point is 01:14:44 would you be okay with it and it really never dawned on me like that because one of my greatest games is he called me to his office you know i'm feeling good i had i had 10 for buck 80 opening day at the time it was one of the top five opening day receiving games i'm a tight end in nfl history steve antinos, our trainer, said, Mike, I want to see you. I had just won offensive player. I just won offensive player of the week. The first time we had that award, I got the little crystal
Starting point is 01:15:13 football. I was like, man, because he had been on me. I had surgery the offseason on my ankle. I really didn't participate in no OTAs, really limited in training camp. Come out there the first game, drop 10 for a buck 80 on him. Buffalo.
Starting point is 01:15:30 I get up there to his office and Mike sit down. He's like, sit down 84. And he got the TV because I'm sitting like right here. He's sitting in a chair like this and I'm sitting right there. And he cuts the TV on. And it's me.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Full jiving. Missed the block. Not running, you know, not running full speed. So he showed me about four or five plays. And he says, I'll never accept anything in a win. I wouldn't have lost.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Had we lost this game, this effort would have been unacceptable. We won it. It's still unacceptable. The best advice I give people is that the same thing my grandfather told my brother and I, never mistake habit for hard work.
Starting point is 01:16:19 People think because they do something over and over, they're working hard, Gil. That's a habit. People go to the gym every day at nine o's a habit people go to the gym every day at nine o'clock people go to the gym every day at six o'clock and body ain't changed since they was a kid they went from
Starting point is 01:16:31 adolescent to adulthood and they had nothing to do with no weights I want a hard worker not someone who works hard that's what uh so I never I never forget that. Things that people tell me that really resonate with me. And certain things that I hear that I've heard all those years, like my grandfather died in 1977.
Starting point is 01:17:01 We're coming up on damn near 50 years. And everything that he ever told my brother, everything that he ever spoke in my presence, I can recite it verbatim. Everything. Not one thing he's ever said in my presence that I can't, I can tell you where I was, I can tell you what he said,
Starting point is 01:17:18 I can tell you the context in which he said it. So, oh, did I? Oh, you valued his voice. He wasn't a, I mean, you know, when you're eight years old, hell, everybody's gargantuan. But he wasn't a lot.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Papa probably was about 5'8", probably weighed 255 wide. You know, I come, you know, my uncle's wide. They were farmers, manual labor. So they were, they were, they were, weren't tall men, but they were wide men. And so who
Starting point is 01:17:49 are your top five actors of all time? Who are your top five, Gil? Man, it's hard to get a top five. But y'all realize that that's harder than saying who are your top five NBA players? Who are your top five NFL players? Who are your top five? Man realize that's harder than saying who's your top five NBA players, who's your top five NFL players, who's your top five.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Man, that's hard. I got Denzel, Will Smith, Leonardo DiCaprio, Jack Nicholson. I like Jack I like Denzel and is it Anthony Hopkins that's a nice list bro
Starting point is 01:18:32 that's really a nice list I would definitely have Denzel I mean that's hard to have a list where you don't have Tom Hanks on it love Jack Nicholson Jack Nicholson that's three a guy that doesn't get Love Jack Nicholson. That's three.
Starting point is 01:18:51 A guy that doesn't get nearly, nearly the credit that he deserves, who had incredible range, was Robin Williams. Ooh, man. Robin Williams, yeah. And what's the old boy's name? He was in There Will Be Blood. He was in Lincoln. What's the guy? Daniel Day-Lewis.
Starting point is 01:19:15 Daniel Day-Lewis. I go back and forth between Daniel Day-Lewis and Anthony Hopkins. But every time I think of Anthony Hopkins, I think about Silence of the Lambs that might be one of the greatest roles that awful Jack Crawford and Clarice Collins did you come down here before you put it up the case
Starting point is 01:19:36 like you know Eddie Murphy you know what I like about Eddie Murphy and Will Smith oh yeah yeah yeah they are well rounded You know what I like about Eddie Murphy and Will Smith? They are well-rounded. They play all kind of roles. I know we have Eddie in there, but... I mean, we didn't mention Al Pacino. We didn't mention Cleeney's Wood. We didn't mention Robert De Niro.
Starting point is 01:20:06 And then you start going back, you start getting Brando. And you start getting Yul Brynner. You start getting Morgan Freya. There's some great ones out there. We only got five spots. But we only got five spots.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Jay Rain said, hello, Nightcap fam, making a sacrifice spending money on Supercheck. Gotta get my car to the tow yard. I've been moving all night back downstairs to get my car going with all my belongings. Man, come on, bro!
Starting point is 01:20:38 How you brought? First of all, you know you owe it. You parking out there and broad daylight, you know they're looking for that. They there in broad daylight, you know they looking for that. They got the hits ready for you. Dude probably was out there polishing to that hit you up. Hey, man. Hey, come on.
Starting point is 01:20:54 You don't know, man. You got to take your license plate off, man, every time you go upstairs. Take your license. I was moving all night, came back downstairs, and my car was gone with all my belongings. Damn. Well, I mean, I don't know how much money he sent, but he's a couple more dollars short. Man, he didn't let you get your stuff out?
Starting point is 01:21:20 Damn, bro. We shouldn't be laughing. Well, we wouldn't know about it had he not have told it we in Louisville would forever be grateful for a WNBA team yeah because they only have
Starting point is 01:21:41 you know the basketball team down there and they got the derby, the Kentucky Derby. You up into the Derby, you got to go. You got to go once. It's an experience. It's unbelievable. My guy, once my guy get back reinstated, so Nick, I think my guy Bob, if you're out there watching, I'm going to go check it out.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Because I met him. I met him when I went down there. I met him. met him when i went down there i met him uh uh d wayne lucas uh uh who else did i meet i met somebody else another one i forget his name um but once he like once he gets reinstated i go back down there he uh trained uh american pharaoh and justify uh the last two triple crown winners after that. I mean, people thought the Triple Crown was easy because you had Seattle Salud winning in 77, and you had a firm winning in 78. And then, hell, Spectacular Bid came up the last. So you almost had three Triple Crowns, and then you had Secretariat in 73 with Ron Turcotte,
Starting point is 01:22:42 and she was out of the Chenery stable, the chestnut coat. But it's an experience, Gil. You got to go for the pageantry and you got to have a hat. Gil, it's all about the hat. You go down there with I mean, you see women, women be barefooted or women have their heels in their hand
Starting point is 01:23:00 but they have the flyers they have the flyers hat out there. Horse racing. What is the Kentucky Derby again? Is that horses? Hey, party's nice too. You got to try one of them on mint juleps.
Starting point is 01:23:14 I ain't really big into it, but hey, you got to say I had it. But, uh... Huh. I hope they got a strip club at the Kentucky Derby because that's all I'm going there for. They be down there now, Gil. They be down there.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Yeah, they be down there. They be down there now. They be down there? I wasn't looking too hard. I was with somebody, but they be down there now. They be down there now. Hold on. I was, you know, I was with somebody, but... Oh, no, I don't do that. I look.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Huh? I don't care who I'm with. I'm going to look. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because if I don't look, then you notice I noticed it, and then now I'm purposely not looking on something I already looked at because obviously I know it's there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:05 See, that's where I look. You see that fine girl? I'm like, where? What's that? Where? Hell yeah, I saw her. I saw her. Wait for you to hear.
Starting point is 01:24:13 I was hoping you would alert me. Yeah, I saw her. You damn right. My body system started tingling. Fine girl alert. Fine girl alert. Where? Where?
Starting point is 01:24:23 Where? Where? Where? Where? Where? Where? Where? Where?
Starting point is 01:24:24 So, you know know you play it off oh lord yes he is all I do is sit and watch Seeking Sister Wives I just be sitting there like yo how y'all pulling this off, man?
Starting point is 01:24:47 This is... I watch everything on Netflix and Hulu. I don't really... Gil, who was the bigger... King Jackson 11 asked, Gil, who was the bigger minus to their teammates? You or Shaq? Boom! boom boom
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Starting point is 01:25:12 boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom not even gonna lie like uh i don't know i don't know i really don't i can't i don't know what he's done on us this is a funny story though like this is why like people like shack is is needed we're in all-star weekend vegas it was all-star weekend vegas and john amici just came out and the NBA set us down in a locker room and said, hey, John Amici, boom, boom, boom. Please do not respond to it. Right. They've given us the whole speech. Do not respond. Because I guess Tim Hardaway went bananas over it. Right. Soon as the media came in, Shaq put on a silver
Starting point is 01:26:09 thong, like the jockstrap thong and said, Johnny, meet you, y'all. I'm Johnny, meet you. And everyone just started dying laughing because it was the funniest thing ever. Just picture that.
Starting point is 01:26:24 I'm Johnny, meet Beach, y'all. I'm sure David Stern, like, how you doing? I just tell y'all not to say anything about this. The first thing they do as soon as you come in there, we're going to go a silver thong. Thank you guys for joining us for a very special edition of Nightcap Play and Style. Please make sure you hit that like button.
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Starting point is 01:28:23 Saturday will be the first game. They win that game 110-106. And the Sacramento Kings in the 9-10 matchup between the Golden State Warriors, they blow out the Warriors and now take on the Pelicans for the right to be the eighth seed and take on the OKC Thunder. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite dog, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number zero, Gilbert Arenas. We're out.
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