Nightcap - Nightcap - Lions Dominate Broncos, Bengals Comeback Win Over Vikings, Colts Blowout Steelers

Episode Date: December 17, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Detroit Lions dominant win over the Denver Broncos, Jake Browning leading the Cincinnati Bengals in an overtime comeback win over the Minnesota Vikings, the Indianapolis Colts blowing out the Pittsburgh Steelers & much more! 06:30 - Lions vs Broncos 16:20 - Bengals vs Vikings 26:30 - Colts vs Steelers 37:20 - Kadarius Toney Didn’t Learn His Lesson 47:00 - Marriage/Relationships 58:15 - Loyalty To Teams You Played For 01:13:30 - Unwritten Locker Room Rules 01:18:30 - The Type Of Women Athletes Look For 01:31:00 - Where Does Justin Herbert Rank Amongst Top QBs? 02:07:20 - Eating Racoon And Booty 02:25:30 - Best Xmas Gifts They’ve Received 02:35:00 - 15 Questions To Ask On A First Date (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #Club #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's your favorite number 85. Yeah. Bengals legend. Very, very happy today. His Bengals won in overtime without the service of jamar chase got injured dj reader but they were able to pull it out please make sure you hit that like button make sure you hit that subscribe button we are now ocho at officially 461 000 subscribers yeah we greatly greatly. Also, please make sure you help us out.

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He was given the wall of fame award this morning. Much, much deserved. Liberty city's fine and baby straight. I'm from Dade County. I grew up in the 40s. Man, I am who I am because of that community, man, where I come from. I left Liberty City without really leaving. So it was awesome, man, to be able to smell them flowers, man, for all the work I put in the philanthropy and all that I've given back to that community, man. That was really dope. That was really dope of them.

You might have left physically, but you never left. Oh, no. Mentally, emotionally. So congratulations on the award. Very much deserved. I want to shout out, Ocho, I want to shout out a couple of people that's been here for day one. The moment we launched this site, there were a couple of people that's been here. And what they do ocho when we

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game that just ended the line wait wait wait wait wait wait you forgot baby you see you see the shirt i got on okay okay yeah you want to talk about you see yeah you see i got it i got to talk about my ratless baby man we'll get to it we'll we'll make sure we get to the ratless you want to you want to do that later yeah we want yeah okay okay okay okay we'll do it. We'll, we'll make sure we get to the rattlers. You want to do that later? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

We'll do it later. We'll do it later. Yeah. But, but he's excited because the rattlers won the, uh, the celebration boat in Atlanta. Yes,

we did. They beat the Howard bison. So we're going to talk, make sure we talk about those, uh, the rattlers a little later. Uh, the marching one Oh one.

What is it? The marching one Oh one. Don't do that. Don't do that. Marching one hundred. Don't do that. You know, you know what it is. The Marching 100?

You know what it is. The greatest band in the land. The greatest band ever assembled. Shout out to Shelby Chipman and Dr. White. Okay. The game that just ended moments ago, the Lions dominated the Broncos 42-17. Jared Goff threw five touchdown passes. He was 24-34, 278, five touchdowns.

The Lions are now 24 and can clinch a playoff spot with a Seattle loss on Monday. They can clinch the division title for the first time with a win over the Vikings on Christmas Eve. So watching this game, what was one of your big takeaways from the game? I mean, one of the big takeaways from the game is the Lions look like the Lions that we're used to seeing throughout the entirety of the season. Obviously, they had a few games where we were like, what happened?

What is going with Jared Goff? He was turning the ball over a lot. And those turnovers cost him, cost the team, you know, some of those games, some of those points. They weren't able to overcome that but today jerry golf looked like himself obviously you said 24 for 34 for 278 5 tds amon saint brown boy that boy nice man yeah that boy is the real deal man yeah he was 7 for 112 with a td td today jameer gibbs man listen i'm not saying he's chris johnson but there are only so many backs in the the NFL that can hit their head off the goalpost from anywhere on the field. And he's one of them. And I can't wait to see him break one just so I can see him get out there and scat one time.

Just one time. He played well today. Goddamn Sam Laporta. He was very efficient as well. Oh, he's legit. He might be. He might be. He and Kittle might be the pro bowl uh a representative for tight ends

in the nfc he's really really good okay okay so you're right because he's having he has great numbers and they're winning yeah yeah um but they just look good man they look good all the way around especially defensively i wanted to focus more on the offense because the offense is sputtered a little bit especially with golf and the turnovers but that offense looked good today very very efficient they look very very good everybody got involved you mentioned you mentioned laporte to the tight end you mentioned armand st brown wide receiver jameson williams had a big game josh reynolds making plays you mentioned david montgomery he starts the game but jameer gill comes in spells him and like he's one of the few backs and i get what you're

saying Ocho he looks like he's running fast a lot of guys don't look like they're moving no he look he looks like he's fast he looked like he's trying to get someplace in a hurry but they were really they were really good once they got their rhythm because if you remember Ocho the first if I'm not mistaken the first three drives they punted the football yeah but then all of a sudden they get their rhythm and they go touchdown touchdown touchdown touchdown punt touchdown again and so it just shows you the explosiveness that they have i thought the broncos were moving the ball fairly well and then one turnover changed the whole complexion of the ball game the whole complexion trying to throw the

screen right well there was a screen right well it was sometimes Ocho you know what and I get it you know trying to get the ball away but sometimes you just eat it sometimes you just eat it say you know what that's a 10-yard loss let me come back and try to get it on second down let me try to recoup some of that on third down but the thing that you don't want to do is turn the football over right and even though the Broncos defense didn't give up points is the fact that it took a lot out of yourself offensively. And they really could never get back on track. And then we saw, I saw they scored a touchdown and they call offsides and I still didn't see

who the offside was on, but I guess it is saying one of the offensive linemen helmet was over the ball, but I couldn't see it, but maybe you saw something that I didn't see. Maybe somebody in the chat saw something that I didn't see. The call, the calls are getting a little bit ridiculous.

A little bit ridiculous now. And now, obviously, because of what happened with Cadareous Tony, now they're just going to be nitpicking and calling every little thing. So now everything has to be perfect when it comes to alignment. Because you know what happened, Ocho. You know what happened. Andy Reid said what they do is that they gather all – because they get all the footage from every game. And it's like, this guy's offside.

Look at that defensive line. He's offside. They sent him to the league office. They sent him to the league. And then the league office tell all the referees, now you got – now they're ruining it for every goddamn body. That's it. That's it.

You know how somebody do something and they tell, man, why you told? You ruined it for everybody. Bro, you got caught. You just go ahead and bite that bullet. Don't you worry about everybody else. Not everybody got to be on the team. Everybody got to suffer. But they were, Quinn

Menendez, they said he was offside so his helmet was over where the center had it. Maybe he got a big head. What if his head big and he really can't help or control him having being off sides but here's my thing to Ocho I don't know what because I saw you saw that play and then you see Sean Payton light into Russell Wilson yeah I don't know how you expect Russell

to see that did tell him hey man you need to back up you think that's what it was for though I you know I don't I don't though? I don't know. You know what's funny? You know what's funny? I like that. I like the coach getting into his quarterback when something isn't going right. I think it's a cardinal sin, a rule number one. You never chastise your quarterback.

You never chastise your quarterback in front of everybody. You always do it behind closed doors. You whisper it. And you definitely don't do it on national television it or you you definitely don't do it on national television yeah you definitely don't do it on that's him but the fact i think that the relationship in order for them even though they lost today for that relationship and that match racing process that sean payton and russell wilson have i think for it to get where they wanted to go things like that you need to be able to be able to take that because he expects greatness out of you in order for the broncos and that team to get where they need to be able to be able to take that because he expects greatness out of you in order for the Broncos and that team to get where they need to get to. Whatever mistakes or whatever he was chastised and Russell wasn't for, you can't make those

mistakes. You can't, whatever it might be. But I don't know if he made a mistake because if you remember, Ocho, it was the touchdown and they called it offsides. Right. So I'm just trying to figure out how Russ was at fault. Russ was great on that drive. Yeah.

It must've been something we didn't see. It had to be something we didn't see. Cause he hit the running back on a Texas route. He almost got in. He did the pitch to a Javante Williams. He almost got in. Right. And then they ended up,

and then they ended up running the little belly play to the fullback. He did get in, but they threw the flag saying he's offside. So I don't know. So maybe it was something that transpired Ocho during the drive that we didn't see right but that's that's very strange to see the head coach light up the quarterback a russell wilson type now we've seen him jump all over uh mullins the guy that filled in for uh that uh the backup in minnesota we've seen him get on second you know second uh a level a, you know, second level,

a third, you know, third string quarterback. But never the start, especially of that ilk. And so for that to happen, something had to seriously go wrong. But like I said, maybe we missed it. It couldn't have been on the three plays that I looked at in which they run a little Texas route. The running back gets stopped at the one giovante williams i thought he got in he gets stopped at the one

and then they run the belly to the fullback he ended up getting in and then they called offside so uh i i really don't i really don't know what sean payton got so upset about yeah but you know what else you know but i think about it the fact that do you remember when's the last time the lions went to the playoffs you remember what year do you remember, when's the last time the Lions went to the playoffs? You remember what year, what year it was? Probably, I know the last time they won the division

was 93. Okay. Okay, last time they won the division was 93. they won the division. I think, I think they went to the playoffs

in 2011? It might be 2011. 2011? Was it? It must have been a wild card, huh? Yeah, they were. Yeah, they ain't won the division now. Yeah, okay, yeah.

Yeah, well, listen, they're going to- Am I correct? Oh, I was correct. I mean, I just say, Ash, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know, I just- Yeah, they did. Yeah, I think they're going to win the division this year, too.

Listen, the Lions' remaining schedule, they had the Vikings. Christmas Eve. Christmas Eve. Then they got the the cowboys if i'm not mistaken right yes the the lions the lions are four and oh the light this this season the lines are four and oh in primetime games they have they haven't lost right they haven't lost in primetime obviously that's the best that's the best in the nfl and i think they're going to win their first division title since 93 since 93 uh actually they went again they went to the playoffs also in 2016 right yeah i see it yeah 2016 they lost in the wild card the goddamn seattle to the seahawks seattle seahawks yeah but uh but i thought i thought i thought i thought uh the Lions defense, A.G., Aaron Glenn, has them playing well. Hey, that's my boy.

That's my boy. Yeah, they get after your quarterback. They pursue to the football. Nobody gives up. If somebody runs down the field, you see defensive linemen chasing. That's what you like to see. The DBs are not giving up on plays. They can see no catches.

They're fighting to the very end, trying to pull the ball out. So you like to see that. The Broncos defense did not have one of their better playing games. But, you know, sometimes when you're on the road and the home team gets it rolling, it's hard to stop that avalanche. Yeah, it is. It's hard to stop. Yep. And one person can't stop it at all.

No, no. You need somebody to make a play. A big play. Yeah, you get a pick, a scooping score, something like that. Hit the quarterback, the ball comes out. You know who I really like, man? Who did? From the Lions.

That guy there, Brian Branch. Oh, yeah, from Alabama? Oh, man, man. Boy, that young fella all over the place, man. I like him. I like him a lot. Oh, they got those linebackers, Hustle. What's the one from Iowa?

What's the one from Iowa that won the award? Yeah, yeah. He won the Buckus Award a couple years ago, yeah. But both of those inside backers chase the football. They downhill guys. Downhill guy and sideline to sideline. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. football. They downhill guys. Downhill guys and sideline to sideline. Yeah. Yeah.

The Bengals, your Bengals went in overtime to keep their playoff hopes alive. Who they? 27-24. But I believe Minnesota head coach should be fired for throwing the ball. But first of all, Ocho. Yes, sir. The only team that can run the tush push is who?

Oh, the Eagles. And it's all based on the offensive line. I'm sure the head coach knew that. You knew that wasn't going to work. What are you doing? And you run it twice, and you got a running back that's already had run for 132 yards. And you don't give him the ball once. And then you have your smallest offensive line, the smallest offensive player doing the pushing.

Yeah. You ain't got a 300-pound offensive lineman. You ain't got none of that. You got a 108, 170-pound little wide receiver pushing him in the back. Yeah, and you know,

this is the funny thing. This is the funny thing about it. It's all about matchups, skill, leverage. What's the other word I'm looking for when it comes to that interior alignment? The meat and potatoes of it. That offensive line with the Eagles

and the offensive line for the goddamn Vikings is night and day. Yes. Night and day. The defensive line with the Bengals matches up extremely well and much better than the offensive line of that of the Minnesota Vikings.

That is why a push- push push didn't work. An inch? A yard? You know how much a yard is? Yeah. That's this. You couldn't get that. You couldn't get that twice. What does that tell you? Right. You got no push from the offensive line. You wasn't fitting it.

Not with B.J. Hill and D.J. Reed in there. Right. Well, Reed had gotten hurt, so he wasn't in there. He got hurt early in the ballgame. I forgot the other guy's name. But they didn't get any push, Ojo. But here's my thing. Okay, you ran that play on third down. Why not give it to your running back who'd been running all day?

Chandler had been running all up and down the field. He'd been running up and down the field now, but you got to think about it now. We on the goal line. Do you really want to run out on the goal line and then you know they're bringing the house to you? You know Chandler with the ball in his hand on the goal line, or you want your backup quarterback with the ball on the goal line? Which one do you want?

I know one thing. You know what would happen? You know what would happen? Obviously, I think if they would have handed the ball off, you would have blitzed, and you weren't going to get that. How about you do? They would definitely bring the house. Guess what the Bengals did?

The Bengals tried to t what the Bengals did? The Bengals tried to push-push, and on fourth down, who did they give the ball to? Joe Mixon. What did Joe Mixon do? He got blasted. He spun off the guy

and got the ball in the end zone. That's what you do. You give the ball to guys that are used to carrying the ball in goal-to-go situation. Quarterbacks are not used

to carrying the ball in goal-to-go situation. And on the fourth down, Mullins, because the center got stymied, he ended up fumbling the ball. And so now he lose control of the ball. He gets no momentum. He got pushed back further than what the original line of scrimmage was.

Right, right, right, right. Sometimes coaches, Ocho, they overthink it. They overthink it. Listen, there's a reason why you got Chandler back there. You was willing to move on from Dalvin Cook for a reason. Yeah. You was willing to move on from Dalvin Cook. Yeah. So, obviously, plus also the other guy, forget the other guy that was running.

Chandler might be a rookie, but there's a, what's the other guy named? The running back. He had a fumbling problem, though. So, he might be, he had a fumbling problem though so he might be he had a fumbling problem earlier this year right hey them got me and my goddamn bangles man listen they found a way to win they found a way to win and the funny thing about it is towards the end of the game i was tweeting out what was going to happen in succession and i was right i was damn near i was damn near right madison number two right

yeah yeah madison he's the running back yeah yeah so um i was tweeting out what was going to happen for some reason by the florida game i could just tell i said listen he threw a pass to t higgins i think it was in the fourth quarter i said man you got to keep that ball in bounds and just give t a chance because the db was too short t T, 6'5", 6'4". They came back. What's up? What happened? You and I talked about this all the time.

Yes, sir. What don't you let a quarterback do? You don't let him roll out the pocket to his throwing hand. To his throwing hand, yeah. Okay, he rolled out the pocket and he hit T. Higgins. So what did he do in overtime? What did they let him do again? Escape to the right side and he hit Boyd on the run.

So you deserve exactly what you got. Because you know you don't let a quarterback, you keep him away from his throwing hand. If it's a right-handed quarterback, you force him left. If it's a left-handed quarterback, you force him right. That's on the D end, though. That's the D end. Yes!

Boyd, he can't get collapsed like that and allow him to get outside. Yes. Yes. Yes. That's what I'm saying. See, sometimes you get so caught up in trying to make a play. But if I can't make a play doing my responsibility, because now when they cut the tape on, they're going to say what? You're going to be looking at Eljo if you're a defensive player like,

bro, you got contained. You can't let him outside. You got to keep him inside. So now you let the guy escape can't let him outside. You got to keep him inside. So now, you let the guy escape to his dominant hand twice. Once he makes an outstanding play,

T. Higgins makes an outstanding catch. He outpoints the ball. And then in the process of going down, he throws his hand back and he gets the ball over the power line. That's great.

Listen, I do the ratings for Madden. I'm going to go in there and change T. Higgins' awareness to 99. Because his awareness, after making that catch, he can't even see the goal line. No. This is the way to just to put the ball, just to reach out, knowing exactly where he is. Man, that was dope. Man, I'm excited for Mbengu.

I went out on a limb and said, you know what? Damn, we out. We out. You say, no, we not out the playoffs. Okay, our quarterback hurt. Joe Burrow was hurt. Jake Browning is the first quarterback, first Bingham quarterback to win his first three,

his first, hold on. Three or four. Win three of his first since Boomer Science in 1984. We going to the playoffs. And I said it on Inside NFL, we going to leap over the goddamn Steel said i said on i said it on inside nfl we're gonna over oh we're gonna leap over the goddamn you got them yeah they got them browns and stills and we're gonna get that goddamn wild card and i'm telling you we're gonna surprise somebody in that first round of

playoffs we got the steelers left we got the chiefs and we got the browns two two of those we're gonna win i mean i'm just let me just be fair i'm gonna just say i'm gonna be fair the division games i think we're gonna win chiefs i mean, I'm going to just be fair. I'm going to just say, I'm going to be fair. The division games, I think we're going to win. Chiefs, I'm not sure what's going to happen, but either way, if we win those two, two of those three, we get in the wild card. Yeah. Oh, yes. That'll get you in there.

That'll get you in there. Salute Trey Henderson, baby. Yeah. He was playing well. They're three and one since Joe Burrow suffered a season-ending injury, a wrist injury. Browning had mentioned that he was motivated because the Vikings cut him in 2021.

And they said it bothered him in how they cut him because they said they're going to put him on the practice squad and go to the hotel. And he waited and he waited and waited. And his agent called him and said they're going to put him on the practice squad and go to the hotel. And he waited and he waited and waited and his agent called him and said they're releasing you, they're not putting you on the practice squad. He said they did it that way, they handled it.

Okay, if you're going to put me on the practice squad, put me on the practice squad. Okay, I'm cool with that. But don't have me just sitting there waiting in the hotel and y'all do some dirty conniving stuff like that. That's a nasty business. And the funny, you ain't see the clip. You ain't see the clip with Browning screaming, you shouldn't have cut me.

You ain't see that? No, I didn't see it. Yeah, you got to read his lip. You shouldn't have cut me. Yeah, I'm glad. And he said the B word. Jake Brad. You got to lick back.

Get your lick back, boy. That's what I'm talking about. And then he was hit with a drug test after the game. Right after the game. I think that's something new, Ocho, because I remember when... It never happened to you? No, not after the game. I got drug tested Monday morning.

I got drug tested on a Tuesday morning or a Friday. And they keep saying it's random. But nobody got drug tested more in Denver than Shannon Sharp. I said, well, how is it random? And I'm getting drug tested every year more than everybody else. Everybody else, right. Yeah, that's funny. I think I got once after a game,

and I think it might have been the Chargers game. We played the Chargers. I forgot what year it was. All I know it was Cromartie's rookie year when he was with the Chargers. I had 260 for three TDs or 260 for two. Drug test right after the game. drug tests right after the game. Drug tests right after the game. I'm like,

there's no way that's random. I mean, what drug they think you taking? I mean, you need a higher dose if you taking steroid. No, I was taking GDM back then. GDM? Yeah, GDM.

Don't you laughing? I was taking GDM back then. Oh, Lord. And you don't know what GDM is? No,DM. Don't you laugh. I was taking GDM back then. Oh, Lord. You don't know what GDM is? No, what is it, Ocho? Goddamn McDonald's. They should have taken your cholesterol. That one was through the roof.

It wasn't through the roof, but your cholesterol. Yeah, but it was funny. And certain people, there It was funny. Listen, I'm every bit of 180. Why are you testing a kicker or a punter? I'm every bit of 180. Have you seen some of their bodies? They take the wrong kind of steroids or they

backfired or something. That's crazy. Congratulations to the Bengals. Jake Browning played an unbelievable ball game he uh the Minnesota had an opportunity

Ocho to put some separation early remember Muggles threw two interceptions yeah one on like

the two yard line and the other he threw another one he was going down and the D-line was laying on his back back that

he would never get an easier interception in his life that ain't none but the in his life. That ain't none but the football guys right there. That ain't none but the football guys. The Colts hammer the Steelers. Gardner Minshew keeps their playoff hopes alive. Threw for 215 yards,

three scores, three different receivers. Andy Trail, 13-0 midway through the second quarter, but then could score 30 unanswered points. The Colts are now 8-6, have won 5-6 to move into the bottom of the AFC South into playoff contention. They currently hold the number seven position in the AFC. Hmm.

Oh, no, Ocho. Ocho, they say they want that playoff. They want that last, that wild card. Ooh. The Colts. The Colts. The Colts. Minshew Magic. Garner Minshew.

Mad child. Please listen. I like Minshew. I like Minshew. I mean, he's nice. He's cool. He has a nice supporting cast. They did well today.

But again, they did play the Steelers. Let's not get too fed up. Whoa, whoa, whoa. They did play the Steelers. You tell me all the time. It don't matter who out there me all the time, but it don't matter who out there. I mean, I know it don't matter who out there, but look at the product. The Steelers done lost the last two, not the last three. You know, they ain't no threat,

which is why I said it two, three weeks ago. The Bengals are going to come back. They're going to be a threat to y'all. A threat to who? They're going to be a threat to the Bengals. And the Coast don't want to see us? The Coast don't have nothing. No, I'm saying the Steelers going to be a threat to the Bengals. And the Colts don't want to see us? The Colts don't have nothing. No, I'm saying the Steelers are going to be a threat to you guys. No, they're not.

No, they're not. No, they're not. Not playing with us. They're bad. The Steelers are bad. Steelers need the overhaul, Ocho. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down.

Slow down. The Steelers are having one bad season. I don't know about no overhaul already. Their coach, goddamn Tomlin, past 17 years, he's been above 500 every single year. Every single year. I don't know about an overhaul. That's not the standard for the Steelers. The Steelers are about championships.

We got to start rewarding, oh, he above 500. That's not why they pay you $8, $9 million to be above 500. They pay you for championships. And to get the team in the playoffs, make deep playoff run. When was the last time the Steelers made a deep playoff run? Well, I mean, that's a minute. Wait a minute. This is a new team. This is a new regime.

You got new players. It doesn't just happen like that. It don't just happen like that. Now, you have to build. You have to build your team. We got to hold. What we do here on this podcast is we hold people accountable. Even the people that we like, we got to hold them accountable. Okay, so you think it's time for overhaul for real?

No, I'm saying. I mean, you said the word overhaul, so I mean, you mean players. Players, but Mike's got to do a better job. We got to stop where he's, oh, he's never had a losing season. Well, it's been a long time that we thought the Steelers was going to be a threat to win something, too, other than the division. Right, right, right, right. Now, I get it.

A lot of their, you know, Ben got old. They held on to Ben. Ben held on a lot longer than what he should have. And when you got guys like that, and that's what the Steelers, the Steelers are known for loyalty,

especially their really, really, really good players. If you go back and look at those 70 Steelers, they didn't get cut. They got old and they got he got rid of them and that's why they struggled you know late 80s until the 90s they had that one year in the 90s because lambert and ham and and and joe mean joe and lc and uh greenwood and male blunt and all those guys got old at once right well you got to the hall of fam those guys got old at once. Right, right, right. Well, you got 10 Hall of Famers that get old at once, Ocho. Yeah.

You're going to be in bad shape trying to replace all that because the likelihood of you finding replacement players for those guys aren't very good. Right. But the Steelers, Ocho, they need a quarterback. Okay, let's stop right there. Go ahead. Let's stop right there.

I say they don't need an overhaul. You know, I'm a Kenny Pickett fan. I am a huge fan of kenny pickett he ain't it okay let me finish let me finish let me finish kenny pickett is is a good a good quarterback i don't think he hasn't matured to the point where kenny pickett is a the answer to being a franchise quarterback and a quarterback that can get the Steelers back to prominent winning consistently meaning every time we have a season we're going to be in contention year in a year out when you had big ben you knew year in a year out you're going to be in goddamn contention to be playing in the playoffs and a chance at a lombardi trophy i don't think kenny pickett is that guy just yet.

Obviously, it's only year two. Year two or year three for Kenny? Two. It's only year two. So I say give him another year and see where he is. And every team, all teams already that don't have a franchise quarterback are a quarterback away from changing their franchise. That's all it comes down to. That's all it comes down to. When you finally find that franchise quarterback, all you have to

do is build around him. Because they have the weapons. He had to support and cast. You got the running backs. You got the receivers. Deontay Johnson and got them. The attitude is terrible. The attitude is fierce for Ocho I mean

you let's think about why they're upset understand why you just mentioned it that's unimportant you just said it out yourself you just said it yourself

Ocho the quarterback Ocho we've all been in situations where the quarterback was less than ideal right right

right but that's frustrating that's frustrating I'm sure you got upset too when your quarterback was less than well you got lucky well shit you had goddamn john anyway i did i had i had you was fortunate everybody wasn't as fortunate as you was when they played i played 14 years i had john for nine of those years and also john missed half a season one year but I understand but Ocho here's the thing for me I always tried to put on a positive because I didn't want the younger guys to think that

behavior was acceptable right right right I always I came to work I can't I was professional at all times right I came to work on time I went to meeting on time I practiced hard I did what I was supposed to because I wanted to show the younger guys, this is what it takes to be successful. You want to have a long career. You want to win. This is what you need to do. Yeah, I got frustrated, Ocho.

Yes, I want the ball. Yes, I believe I can help this team out of this funk if I were to get the ball. But, I mean, I just want to know what was pouting and throwing helmets and throwing water coolers what the hell was that gonna help that means that'd be the ball hey it wasn't good to the ball but being able to it's hard for receivers when you get frustrated yeah sometimes your emotions get the best of you you know i'm I'm trying to think have I ever gotten like that on the sideline?

I think maybe once. Yeah, maybe once. Maybe once. I was one that didn't want to show up any of my teammates. I didn't want to show up my coach. Exactly. So, I was able to control it

because I knew the camera was always on me. So, I kind of kept it mellow even though I was frustrated on the inside. And you could tell by my body language when things weren't going well. Or they were allowing another team to dictate whether I can get the ball or not and that shit

really pissed me off that shit really pissed me off that grinded my goddamn testicles when they allowed another team to dictate whether I can get off or not that bothered me we did not game plan and have meetings for hours and hours and hours of practice and watch hours and hours of film to come out here on a Sunday and tell them well well, if you play this defense, we can't get the ball 85. That don't sit right with me. That just don't sit right with me. Cause if that's the case, then I ain't need to goddamn practice. You're going to let them do me like that. That's just my mindset and the way I thought, you know, but I mean, that's neither here nor there. i just like and and the thing is like i i'm a big believer in that showing up the quarterback also yeah um and that was the thing never that never

that never that that was the the relationship that i had with john i was never gonna show him up all i asked him look give me an opportunity to protect myself because i'm gonna do i'm gonna do my best to come down with it or it's gonna be incomplete yeah and i'm never i'm never i'm never going to give up on a play and so he did he didn't like if he missed you you like oh matter of fact yo i did that once to carson we were playing we were playing the steelers he overshot a ball he overshot it or i it was it was out of reach, and I was wide open. And I took my chin strap, and I snapped that bitch as soon as the ball. You know, it was out of reach. Man, I walked back to the huddle. That nigga Carson said, man, if you ever motherfucking do some shit like that again,

I won't throw your ass a ball the rest of the game. That's what A. A. That was the A. You like catching football? I like, yeah., hey, you like it? You like it? You like it? You like it? No. I like it. He said, you won't get no more.

Listen, I ain't never seen Nash snap on me like that. One time, I never forget, we was playing the Steelers. And the fact that when we're playing the Steelers, the balls and opportunities I'm going to get are already slim to none. Because they, when I come out the hududdle they are making the defense to play call based on where i line up so i already know the two or three balls or four balls i might get i got to make the most i got yeah you gotta make the most double and when he missed that one man i snapped my motherfucking chin strap walking back to the huddle and man he came into my face mask and said man if you ever motherfucking show me

up like that again, you'll never catch a motherfucking ball again. I ain't even say nothing, because goddamn, it was a primetime game. It was a primetime game. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I hope when we edit, I hope somebody can find that clip. Somebody gotta

find that clip. That'd be a good reference. Yeah, John didn't play that, and so I always made sure I'm like, hey, bro, don't do that. Don gotta find that clip oh yeah that'd be a good reference yeah john john didn't play that and so i always made sure i'm like hey bro don't do that don't do that that that is what we that is what we do right uh so yeah i lost myself though that one time i lost myself that one time but see that's that's that's the thing though ocho is that i didn't show him up and when i dropped the pass or i did something right hey we talked about that on the side yeah we talked about it on the sideline or we talked about that in the meeting room he's like hey i need you a little deeper on this one right here right right

i need you you know so forth and so on we had a conversation because i know he didn't like me to show him up but he knows that you, all that yelling and cursing. Who you talking to? Yo, who about you talking to like that? I know that way you be talking to me like, man, please. So we had a great relationship. We had a great understanding of the things that how we talk,

how we communicated with each other to get each other's point across. So check this out. Ocho, Kadarius Tony need to let it go bro now andy reed andy reed was fined one hundred thousand dollars for criticizing the officials patrick mahomes was fined fifty thousand dollars now you do know you know i know they got those penalties because they are was really they was yelling at the officials really talking to cadarious tony oh yeah so they they got docked 150 000 coming from him this is what he told reporters whether

it was an inch two inches or whatever the uh whatever in front of the ball the referee got a job to let me know he doesn't he did he didn't make no effort you watch the video He didn't make no effort. You watch the video. He didn't make no effort to say anything, no alignment. So apparently he wanted to do that regardless. Ocho, football 101. It's the two A's, alignment and assignment. You can't do a damn thing on the field if you don't know your alignment or your assignment. Yeah, yeah. That's your responsibility.

Yeah. Instead of saying's your responsibility. Yeah. Instead of saying, you know what? Again, what did I tell you? Okay. I say, see, he ain't got no personal accountability. I told that. See, I've been telling you that for the longest time. He just told you.

Instead of saying, you know what? I was wrong. I lined up off sides. I've got to do a better job of making sure my alignment is correct because that falls on Kadarius Tony that falls on me right but I I was wrong and I let my team down you see what he did he put the blame on the official instead accountability is everything Ocho yeah so it tells me he still hasn't learned his lesson yeah I think he learned his lesson I think I guarantee that that forget what he said but, but I guarantee you when he comes

back for the next following game, wait, who they got next? The Chiefs? Who the Chiefs got next? Oh, they got the Patriots. The Chiefs got the Patriots. I guarantee you don't line up offside this game. I guarantee you don't line up offside the game after that. I guarantee you when they get to the goddamn playoffs,

I bet you don't line up offside. So in other words, are they going to make any more boneheaded plays? No. I bet he don't. Let's put some. I bet $100. Okay, bet it. I bet $100 because Darius Toney don't make no more mistakes.

Bet $100. Bet it. I'm just saying run it. And I bet another $100 he don't drop no balls. I'm like Chris Brown, run it. All right. See if he can run it, run it, run it. Say less.

But Ocho. I know what you mean, though. It was about to die down. That happened a week ago. So instead of, look here, my grandma said, boy, old poop still stink. The reporters asked him. He just not savvy enough with the reporters to say they ignored. He just answered it probably with no ill intent, just answering the question in general.

Intent only matters to him. You know the difference between murder and manslaughter? It's intent. One, you intentionally meant to kill him. The other, you accidentally. But the victim is just as dead. So intent only matters to the defendant you accidentally. But the victim is just as dead. So intent only matters to the defendant, not the victim because he just as dead. So whatever his intents were, it did not matter because that's what he said.

Hey, you used to watch Matlock? No, I was a criminal justice major. Okay, I was going to say, you sound like a goddamn lawyer now. You know, I was about to be one of them. That was good. I like that. If that football thing didn't work out, that going to be okay okay i like that yeah i like that but that's the thing though ocho you know what he's like that at some point in time remember

you and i talked about it how some people will blame everybody else but what's going on in their life oh if the this with that it was the police and it was the government and it was my girlfriend it was my boyfriend it was my mom they not helping me right okay so so where's your culpability in any right right right you ain't so you ain't do nothing you know what the funny thing about it is is i think yeah that's not just a cadarious tony problem that's a problem with society and of course absolutely at time never wanted to take accountability most of the time it's leading to uh the the female the female species you know i think they have an issue with taking accountability the finger is always pointing

the opposite way and not actually seeing it at times you know maybe i am the problem and the same thing with us with his fellas but um it's it's something that I think a lot of people, a lot of people struggle with and blaming others and not seeing them being the issue at any time. Yeah. And for me, Ocho, I've never been, I've never been one that was too proud to say I was wrong. To say I was too proud to say I was sorry. Right. Even as I've ascended through the economic pyramid, even as I've become more known, I'm not too big to say I'm sorry. I'm not

too big to say I'm wrong because if I was wrong, I was wrong. I'm wrong. I have a question. Yes. As long as you've been alive, as long as you've been dating just in general in life, how many times have you ever heard a woman for one take accountability for her actions or said sorry be honest with me now if you have to think about it a little bit be honest me how many times you have had a had a woman say i'm sorry when she's messed up or actually take accountability for actions? Well, that'd be really hard to say because I would probably have to... Thank you.

Thank you. No, Ocho. Thank you. You just proved my point, baby. That's all. Ocho, but here's the thing. The fact that you can't even... The fact that you can't even tell me

right off the top of your head, that gives it... What does that tell you? Ocho, I am 55. Right. I've dated some women in my time. Right, I know, I know. And here's the you? Ocho, I am 55. Right. I've dated some women in my time. Right, I know, I know.

And here's the thing, Ocho, sometimes I didn't give a damn what they told me. I was out. They could have said I was wrong, I'm sorry, my bad. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You don't get people, you don't believe in second chances? Yes, I absolutely do. Okay.

I absolutely do. Okay, okay. But, Ocho, but when you no longer want to be in a situation, it doesn't matter what they say. I've been in that very situation where I've told someone I'm sorry and I apologize. But they say, Shannon, it's

too late. Okay. Yeah, it happens, Ocho. Wait a minute. That's so hard. I know I'm going to let you finish. But when I look at you as someone I look up to, not only football player, accolades and all that stuff, but obviously a father, a businessman, entrepreneur, what you're doing with TV. I'm trying to sit here and even fathom a woman sitting here telling you, oh, Shannon, I don't want to be with you no more. That don't even sound right to me, honestly. No, Bojo.

That don't even sound right. Well, maybe they didn't see the motherfucking light. I don't mean to be with you no more. That don't even sound right to me, honestly. No, Ocho. That don't even sound right. Well, maybe they didn't see the motherfucking light. I don't mean to curse you. I apologize. Maybe they didn't see the light and we were going in the fucking vision to say, oh, I'm up and leaving. They're leaving on.

Nigga, who the fuck leaving on? Not the one popping them goddamn diamonds. Well, it wasn't because of that, Ocho. It wasn't because of that. Oh, no way. Ocho, wait, don't hide. Yes, sir. But you know what, Ocho? You want me to call it that? Oh, no way. Ocho, wait, no. Yes, sir. But you know what, Ocho?

Yeah. You can't stay in the bed always. You got to come up out of the bed. Okay. You might be in the bed. You know your boy might be in the bed 25, 35 minutes in a clip, but you know what I'm saying? Right, right, right, right. You got breakfast.

You got lunch. You sit on the couch. You talk and watch television. Right, right. But I think the thing is, everybody, no matter how good looking a woman is, somebody has said, I don't want to be with you anymore.

No matter how popular a man is, no matter how much money he's made, somebody has said, you know, I want to move on. And so when people say, oh, she only with him because he got this

or he only look. It's just as easy to love a rich man as it is a poor man. So what you think they're supposed to do? Well,'t want that rich man i want the poor man to show you that i really love him y'all sound foolish people do you understand how foolish you sound come on a woman should go be with a someone if somebody wants to be with her that's making 10 million 50 million 100 million a year to prove that she loves this man no i'm gonna go be with the person's making 10 million 50 million 100 million a year to prove that she loves this

man no i'm gonna go be with the person that makes a hundred thousand what come on preacher who what scenario stop sounding dumb right you sound dumb when you say that it's just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as it is a poor man. Yes, sir. I have a question. Everything you just said, is it safe to say regardless of who it is you date, whether rich or poor, that everyone relationship or whatever they have going on,

situationship, marriage, do you think everything comes with an expiration date? Possibly. it all depends because ocho it's a it's work every day yeah is that yeah today's podcast is not the same as thursday podcast and tonight's podcast won't be the same as as tomorrow and tomorrow won't be the same as monday and to make my monday won't be the same as wednesday th tomorrow won't be the same as monday and to make monday won't be the same as wednesday thursday so forth and so on so i a lot of times when people

think when they get married people think the job is over when i'm married now no no you gotta this is what i tell guys when it wants to get to the nfl i say now your journey is not ended your journey is just started you dreamed of being here now the journey starts so when you get married i've never been married but i also i've been in relationships and i know a lot of mistakes that i've made is that i got into the relationship and i stopped working i didn't work nearly as hard in the relationship as i did to get the individual come on and i'm not foolish enough or i'm not naive enough to know that. I know that. Hold on, let me write that down. Let me make sure.

I don't... Wait a minute. Let me get my motherfucking pen and paper because I'm not going to stop working. You got me fucked up. I think I'm... Yeah, you got to work. Because the rail that you met

is different than the rail right now. Right. And she's going to be different tomorrow. And so are you. Right. So there's a continuation that when you're in a relationship that you've got to continue to work

in order for it to grow. I mean, let me ask you a question, Ocho. When you buy plants or you buy something, do you just water it one time or do you have to continuously water it? Or do you have to continuously tend to it? You got to tend to it all the time. I mean, obviously, I see relationships

as similar to the upkeep. Yes. If you have to continuously tend to it you got to tend to it all the time i mean obviously i see relationship is is uh similar to the upkeep you know if you have a rose garden if you have plants you know yes i hate using that analogy but you see where i'm going with it yeah but you were talking about upkeep and the maintenance and the thing in order for it to grow and in order for it to grow and in the same thing her and i have these talks all the time and i always and i like that i like to have the tough conversations. How are we going to last? How are we going to defeat the odds? You know, relationships and marriages,

you see what the statistics are, right? Yeah, 50%. How are we going to outdo that? What's going to make us any different? How are we going to beat the odds? Also, are we going to evolve or are we going to grow apart? Are we going to grow together? Now, we have the craziest conversations.

You have to be. Before we take that motherfucking walk, because once we take that walk down the aisle, oh, baby, ain't no coming back. Ain't no coming back. I need to dip all that bullshit out the motherfucking way now, ahead of time.

What's it going to be like to live with you? What's it going to be like when you're mad? I need to see you in all your seasons. I need to see you in all your seasons before i even walk down to that yeah well the greatest trick to survival is adaptability oh yeah and the greatest trick for to sustain anything is to being able to adapt because if your person you you can't be so rigid in your thought process is that it's this way and when she's going through her things, you like suck it up. I mean, there are times that you got to give tough love

and to make sure that, but you also got to be that supportive. And I haven't always been that. A lot of times, I was more concerned about me. Come on now. Hey, I need you to support me. Keep me propped up.

When she needed me at her, when she needed me at my best, when she needed me the most, I wasn't there and also i'm i'm i'm i didn't know that at the time it took me being out of that situation and i and a lot of time because i spent a lot of time alone is that now i sit back and i have the luxury of hindsight the magnificent sign of knowing today what i didn't know yesterday so So now I'm like, and you try not to, but when you've done something as long as I have, it's hard to break that. And so I've tried

to be a better listener, a better communicator. Cause like I say, Ocho, and I tell this story all the time. My therapist told me, she said, Mr. Sharp, you speak in Mandarin. She's speaking Spanish. And one of you guys got to learn the other's language or it's not going to work because you're communicating and you don't know what. You don't know what the other is saying. Right, right, right. Her form of communication is affirmation. Tell her she looks good. Tell her she's fine.

I say, but I tell her that. But she wants me. She wants me to be like a pe pep rally like she was right right right i mean from the time she get up like boom shots like oh you look good oh yes unbelievable wow bam you know what's funny now that you say that uh women that say words of affirmation are their love language for that but the fact that i think when women hear you look good you this you that from the same person over and over and over and over and over it doesn't hit the same as here from someone it doesn't hit the same no matter what you

say it's crazy but back on on on the topic on the basis that we were talking about I think listening and compromising and communicating are probably three of the most important things. Compromising, most definitely, especially compromising. But let me ask you a question. Yeah. Are you listening to respond or are you listening to understand? I'm listening to understand. When it comes to a woman, are you listening to understand?

Yeah. Because we think differently. Oh, yeah, absolutely. You know? Yeah. Because we think differently. Oh, yeah, absolutely. You know? Yeah. So I try to put myself in her shoes when she's talking to get a better understanding on where she's coming from. A lot of times women base their facts on feelings. I feel this way, so it's got to be true. Mm-hmm.

Facts, I mean, feelings aren't facts. Right. Facts aren't feelings. Right. Yeah. And what I've had to learn, and I've had to... Do you want this to work and I've had to. Do you want this to work or do you want to be right?

What what what is it that you want? Do you want it to work or do you want to be right? Because for the longest time I wanted to be right. I've always been this this debater. I've always been this this guy that. OK, well, let me this is what it is okay but and in the process of me being right it's not helping us us yeah yeah now because you got to look at it it's a us not a i not a me it's a us it's a we and so now but in that moment i'm thinking about me you're wrong you're on your

own you're on the island you're on you're wrong and let me tell you boom boom boom but i just laid out so elaborately i'm feeling good inside i told her not look at your feet and she feeling she didn't be right right but in the process what i've done is i chipped away at the foundation of us. And I, she's like, now I see it ain't no us. It's a you versus me, me. Yeah. And so I've had, and slowly, but surely I've tried to get out of that mindset of a, it's a we and not a me, not the chip at the foundation, the fabric that could hold us together. So it's a trial and error.

I'm not perfect. I'm never going to be perfect. I've never professed to be perfect. I made some mistakes. Go make some more. Yeah. See, that's the part. That's the thing about it.

I don't want to make them all mistakes. I've done the trial and error already. I've done the trial and error for goddamn 20, 20, 25 years. So I've been through it enough. I've touched the stove enough to know the motherfucking stove is hot. The stove is hot.

It's going to burn you when you do certain things. So I should, I should be out of that stage by now. Yeah. My grandma had, my grandma had a saying, my granddaddy had a saying, he should tell my grandma all the time.

God damn it. Bessie flowers. Yeah. Do you want to be motherfucking happy or you want to be right? Pick one. Cause you can't get both of them. Right. No one. Cause you can't get both of them. You want to be motherfucking happy or you want to be right pick one because you can't get both of them right no pick one because you can't get both of them you want to be happy you want to be right i tell real all the time every time every blue moon we might get into it listen i'm not gonna say and act like we don't have no motherfucking problem right well we argue

we don't argue we argue i said baby listen man you want to be happy you want to be right let me know what you want to be because you can't be both. And if you think you'd be both, you're living in a fairy tale. Man, the chair calling me Uncle Winfrey. Man, y'all, y'all stay on me, man. Y'all be killing me, man. But you're right. But it's right.

I mean, and that's the thing. You want to be right or you want somebody to be happy. And sometimes it's better. You know what, Ocho? Sometimes it's better to be wrong and keep the peace. Sometimes I lose. Sometimes I lose on purpose. Oh, because you know how you play it.

I know you don't have pets but sometimes i'll be playing tug of war with my dog and i'll let it win and he'll get it he'll go pray and stuff he's like yeah yeah yeah you could take it from me you know yeah sometimes i'll let him win oh yeah i got him on this one no you didn't i'll let you win but that's okay you don't need to know that you know what's funny though you know what's funny? That's a little bit antagonizing too because sometimes Rhea want to argue and she'll say something,

she'll say something and be ready for me to bounce back and have a rebuttal. I'll be like, you know what? Baby, you right. You right. Yeah, Rhea.

You can't get old, Joe. You can't get old, Joe. Hey. Boy, that make a matter it make even more matter but that's all you that's all it's all you're gonna say but you ain't got nothing to say back but see when you young old show as you start to get older see when i was young and i ain't take my 20 milligrams or don't fuck with me yeah i woke up with i woke up with hell on my mind are you ready yeah i woke up with hell on my mind

yeah looking looking for an argument listen when you're young you like to argue when you're young you love to argue but you look at you look at twitter every day any topic it is anything going on with any celebs or they break up or something happening or anything going in the world well god damn oh everybody ready they end up they be going fighting back and forth y'all don't even know these people yeah yeah i don't even know you would i say if i can't bring if i can't bring my dog i'm not good it ain't for me hey yeah hey you saw i retweeted earlier you saw that big ass great dane in the kitchen i see it boy the lady in that cooking the dog the dog look bigger than

the goddamn kitchen like a goddamn horse yeah they get big. They get seven, seven and a half feet standing on their hind legs. Great Dane, Irish Wolfhound get like that. Irish Wolfhound. Yeah, Irish Wolfhound is the biggest. It's bigger than the Great Dane. As far as... But as far as weight,

you're talking about the English Mastiff that can get up to 300 pounds. But that ain't healthy, huh? No, no, no. 300 pounds ain't healthy, huh? No, no, no, no. 300 pounds ain't healthy, man. No, no. No, but like my dog. I mean, my dog weighs like 170,

but he athletic. I mean, he's athletic. He move with it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he good. I mean, he hear the doorbell ring, he go get on his place. He get on his place. He ready. And he good. I mean, he heard the doorbell ring. He go get on his place. He get on his place.

He ready. And he just, he just sit there. He just sit there and watch. Now he look now. He ain't going to stay on that spot. Long cup. When the cleaning people come,

uh, Blanca and Vicky, you got home. He loves Vicky. Yeah. He loves Vicky. That's the only time that I have to like really correct him because it's like, that's his best friend.

He'd be all in the room. She all on the floor with him, rubbing it. Right, right, right. Both feet up in the air. Yeah, baby. He's just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on, daddy. I'll listen to you in a minute.

Let her get five more minutes with me. Yeah. Let's get back on topic. Richard Sherman fires back at criticism for supporting both 49ers and Seahawks. Sherman said, I will support the teams I play for. You need to remember, we brought the city to that championship,

not vice versa. So I will support both 49ers and Seahawks, acting like you gave me something, like I owe you something. You need to appreciate the team that brought you and stay in your lane. I get that, Ocho, because you know, look, I played with the Broncos for 12 years.

Ten, went to Baltimore for two, won a championship, went back to Denver for two. So, of my 14 years, I played for two teams. One team, two with the other, one championship. So, if I cheer for the Ravens, man, what about your loyalty to the Broncos? I cheer for the Broncos. Well, you did know you played for the Ravens man what what about your loyalty to the Broncos I cheer for the Broncos well you did know you play for the Ravens and now you know Travis killed my nephew Travis Kelsey man how you do that bro damn I can't I I can't like nobody else but Bronco and Ravens right right right right right listen my my allegiance will always obviously, we know my allegiance is to the Bengals. I had a short stint with the Patriots in 2011, whatever year that was. But, I mean, that's-

You don't know the year that was? Yeah, I don't even know what year it was, man. You know I don't care about the football once I stop playing. But my allegiance is going to the Bengals. And obviously, after the Bengals, it's the Dolphins. Obviously, I'm born from Miami, born and raised in Liberty City, Dade County, for all y'all in the chat. And it will always be that way. Oh, it always has been.

Before I was drafted to the Bengals, I was a Dolphins fan. I was a little kid, a little shorty going to the games at the goddamn Orange Bowl watching Mark Cooper and Mark Clayton shoot goddamn damn arena. Yeah, the Marks brothers,

man, back in the days. And shit, when I got drafted, obviously, you know, that's where my Bengals, my Bengals, Bengals them come from. Yeah. and that's how it would be no matter what anybody says you know i've never had nobody's every uh gave me any gripes about it because obviously common sense they understood i was from miami and i played yeah but but it's different because i spent 12 years i spent 12 years with one and only two with the other. And I have, like I said, Ozzie. I still talk to Ozzie.

I still talk to a couple of people at the Ravens. Kevin Byrne, who's no longer – Chad still took Kevin Byrne's place. But I still talk to Kev. I talk to Chad. Chad wasn't even – wasn't with the team when I was there. I talked to a few people. But I just know – I mean, 12 – when you spend 12 years and you know Chip know chip still there and

i don't know any of the athletic the trainers now but i the uh the uh you know the equipment guy i still know them the videographers you know i still know them but all the coaches done turned over ocho is under new ownership and it's a little it's a little different honestly it is a little different now because a lot of the people that was there with mr boland and some of the guys that was you know when my staff got left and then cool came in and there was some turn you know going back but it's different now it is right it is uh i'm not gonna say they treat me different when i go back they still get they still treat me great the fans are still great to me i haven't been back to a ravens game but for the most part the ravens fans they've been back to a race i haven't because

i've been working okay i work and see and people like well why you don't go to the games i said because it's hard for me to watch all the other games when i'm at a game okay i see what you mean because now i've got to i've got to talk about the cowboys i've got to talk about the eagles i've got to talk about kansas city i've got to talk about this one and it gets extremely hard when you're just watching that game right so a lot of times i find myself i would be up in the suites and i'm not enjoying the game at the field i'm watching they got the Cowboys on this one and they got other team on that one and I'm doing my job because I know come Monday I'm gonna have to talk about it and so that's why you know I got a question which oh yes with your extreme

knowledge for the game what you think about doing play-by-play like Tony Romo no that never because here's the thing Ocho you can't be as honest as you need to be why because if you if you are they won't do a production meeting with you serious nope i see i see you going with it i see where you're going okay okay i got you i got you and so you gotta play the game a little bit huh Yeah, you do. You got to play the game. And I don't I don't want to study tape that much anymore like I was there. And kudos to all the guys. I think Greg Olson does a phenomenal job.

I haven't heard one word. I haven't heard Tony Romo. I haven't heard any of the guys. Now, I couldn't tell you what they say or how they say it, because for me, Ocho, I need to be able to speak from a place. This is my genuine thought. I'm not corrupted by what I heard somebody else say. Somebody else might have said it. Maybe great minds think alike. But this is my interpretation of what I saw. This is my interpretation of what I what what transpired. And it might be, you know know you might not agree with it

you might agree with it but now I really never wanted to be play by play because I but I've always wanted to talk about more than football right I want to talk about basketball I want to talk about track and field I want to be able to talk about a George Floyd I want to be able to talk about a Colin Kaepernick and Neil Nealeling i want to be talking about talk about some of these societal issues and when you play by play you're kind of boxed in right and for me with my knowledge it doesn't it doesn't need to be harnessed in that capacity okay i see what you mean i like it aaron rogers likely to be medically cleared to play no no rogers may be medically cleared next week to return playing in games, according to multiple reports. The Jets travel to the Dolphins this week and then host the Commanders on

Christmas Eve, which would be Rodgers' targeted return date. The New York Jets are currently 5-8, sit third place in the AFC East. It has a less than 1% chance of making the postseason. What do you think about that? What's the point? What are we proving? You were able to come back from an injury and heal extremely, extremely fast. The comeback being 5-8, even though you're sitting third in the AFC, we say they're sitting third, right?

Third in the AFC East. Yeah. No. I mean, why even chance it, though? Like, why? What do you have to prove? We know what you can do. Heal up, rest up,

get ready for next year. Let Zach Wilson continue to run the show. His whole thing is about, I want to show medical professions that I know more, I know better than them. That's why I take a chance.

We talked about Marvin Harrison, you goddamn junior, staying another year. Why take the chance in risk of injury? Why set yourself back further and re-injure your Achilles? There are three places

on the body you don't play with. You don't play with your knee. You don't play with your groin. You don't play with your Achilles.'t play with your groin you don't play with your achilles and let me i might add the hamstring in there too well those areas quarterback if you're a quarterback your elbow and your shoulder if you're a quarterback yeah that too that too but man listen those are injuries you don't want to play with man allow it to heal i don't care what technology said i don't care what science said that that they talk

about i don't care how good you feel walking and going up and down when when the bullets are flying in the middle of a game it's a it's a different ball game it's a different beast don't come back don't come back there's a difference between there's a difference between game and practice because practices are what scripted yeah the game isn't scripted oh no so you can you can call plays you can script practice where they don't get pressure around and you don't have to do anything suddenly suddenly now all of a sudden you get into the game and you know scripts now you got to move faster you got to read you got to react and. Listen, is that area ready for that type of tension? The suddenness in which you're going to have to react.

Bingo, the suddenness. I thought you took the... I was looking for the goddamn word. You brought it right up. Man, don't do that. Don't do that to your body, man. Rest, wait for next year, training camp, have the whole nine yards boom you'll be fine you get out there you're gonna hurt yourself the rattlers are the national champions families how with 30 to 26 to claim the the program's first celebration bowl and its first and black college football national championship the rattlers scored three fourth quarter touchdowns to overtake the Bison and win 30-26. Yeah. Florida A&M, the greatest HBCU of all time.

I want to send a congratulations to everybody. All-Fam U Rattlers, current students, football players, alumni, President Larry Robinson, I salute you. AD Tiffany Sykes, I salute you. Head Coach Willie Simmons, I love you. Even the Marching 100, Brother Shelby Chipman, I appreciate you. That's Will Packard, Will Packard alma mater. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

The greatest, not just any alma mater, the greatest album model. The highest of the seven hills. Where you in the school at again? Savannah State. Y'all in Savannah State don't want to see don't want to see FAMU. Y'all want no smoke with us. And nothing. Y'all want no smoke with us. On the field, on the basketball court, tennis court,

the band. I ain't even gonna mention the band. Y'all don't want none of that. Y'all don't want none of that. Hey, don't want none of that hey you saw when I went back to Savannah State for first take you see how we got that thing croaked hey boy

that was nice we had that thing croaked up in there hey when you came out boy that thing was live I ain't gonna lie to you that's how we do I ain't gonna lie to you

hey but there's only one oh let's do it listen but there's only one though there's only one what Savannah, let's do it. Listen, but there's only one, though. There's only one. Well, Savannah State, that's it. The greatest. The greatest.

The college by the sea. The college by the sea, bro. The highest of the seven hills. Because we're going to strike. We're going to strike. And we're going to strike again. Ocho, I read a survey that said the four most important pillars in a relationship religion money in-laws parenting and money if you had to rank them oh where would how would

you rank them religion in-laws parenting and money i'm going money first i agree i'm going i'm going i'm going money first i don't care what nobody what nobody say. Don't get on here preaching that old righteous bullshit. Money come first. Money's first. I think in order for people to be compatible, I'm not sure two religions can be together. Maybe you can, depending on how much you love each other. I think you're- You got to go to church.

You up in the church, never in my life. Okay. Okay with me. I mean, some people are very serious when it comes to their religious beliefs and they want they want their partner to think and feel and have that same vision as they do when it comes to their religious beliefs true i think i would put religion second third i would be parenting what was number four was number four in-laws yeah third third would be parenting

in-laws who cares about what the fuck they think yeah keep them up oh my bad keep them out your business yeah okay okay okay they always they always in somebody's business no disrespect nah i hate people that allow their in-laws or family to dictate whether they should be with somebody. If that individual makes you happy, I don't care what man family member think about me, man. Fuck y'all.

Y'all ain't got to deal with them. That's me. I got to deal with that. But parenting, parenting is very important. Very, very important. Hell shit.

As a parent myself, I'm still a goddamn, uh, a working, a work in progress. Yeah. As a father, I would, I would, for me, Ocho, I'm still a goddamn work in progress as a father. For me, Ocho, I would probably say money, parenting. It all depends on the type of religion because some religions are more strenuous than others. And you see a lot of people not wanting to mix those. So I guess it all depends on how devout

you are in your faith. Because I think the more devout you are in your faith, the less malleable or bending or flexible you're going to be when it comes to religion. So for me i mean long you ain't you know you ain't out there cutting up no goats and no being no satanic stuff right right i think we pretty cool if you want to go to church have at it yeah yeah yeah you know yeah i like church too i like church obviously. Obviously, I went to New Birth. I went to New Birth Baptist Church.

Victor, Bishop Victor T. Curry. New Birth in Atlanta? No, I'm from Miami, man. I'm talking about the original. I thought you were talking about New Birth. Listen, I'm talking about the only New Birth. The New Birth in Miami, Florida. Victor, Pastor Victor T. Curry. The real New Birth. No disrespect. No disrespect to the church. No disrespect. birth the new birth in miami florida victor's pastor victor t curry the real new but no

disrespect no disrespect to the church no no respect but uh you know i hit miami man and i don't i don't go to churches as often as i used to i don't go as often as i used to i think i've gone enough obviously growing up you know grandma had me in church grandma went grandma went to church in overtown reverend Reverend Clark was her pastor. That was our first pastor. Reverend J.E. Clark. For real? Mount Zion Missionary Baptist Church.

Listen, Mount Olive Baptist Church, Reverend Clark over there in Overtown. And I kind of not graduated, but I kind of veered off over to New Birth Baptist Church. That was at Miami Northwestern at the time. They were having service at Miami Northwestern. I would walk all the way from my house on 44th Street all the way down Seventh Avenue just to go to church there

and always been there for years. But I don't go as often as I need to. And the fact that you just brought it up about religion again. But see, what has happened is that the church has taken on a different meaning. The church is here. Right. See, what people have gotten confused is see, the church is taking on a different meaning. The church is here. Right.

See, what people have gotten confused is that the building. Right, right, right. That's not what a church is. Right. There are people that go to church and will say or do anything. There are people that go to church. See, people have hidden behind religion for thousands and thousands of years, And they'll use that book. There are places in the Bible that you can find that will support anything that you do. Come on now.

It ain't even Sunday, but go ahead and preach. And people will use that. Now, in the Bible, in Leviticus, it says you're not supposed to sleep with a woman on a cycle. How many women will give it up on their cycle and how many men will take it? Y'all better stop playing. I ain't going there. I ain't going. Ocho, I ain't going to do that.

I don't want people to know what I know. But don't you stop now. Don't you stop now. We're going to get the fan question. We're going to get the fan question. Come on. Come on, Bresha. Come on. Come on, Bresha. Come on.

Come on, Bresha. Hey. Don't stop that. Ocho. What's up, man? My brother will tell you this. When I was probably about 11 or 12, the pastor told my grandmother, he told her that I was going to be a minister. Yes, sir. The pastor told my grandmother he told her that I was going to be a minister. Yes, sir. I don't know what happened to me.

Oh, Joe. Well, I still look. I don't want people to think that. But I do. I have a Bible. I read the daily bread. I pray often. I have an understanding. I don't hit people over the head with what I know when it comes to biblical. You live your life. I can't get you into heaven. The only person I can get into heaven is Shannon. I can't save but one soul. That's mine. So how can I save you and lose my own? So let me save mine. I can assist or tell you what I think you should do,

but at the end of the day, that's your call. But anyway, I ain't going to do it. Uncle Nocho, Uncle Nocho J. Uncle Nocho, what are some unspoken rules amongst players that don't get talked about? Unspoken rules. Yeah, ain't no unspoken rules. You don't mess with nobody's money.

You don't be talking about nobody's wife. You don't mess with nobody's kids. That's it. I don't know if it's spoken or unspoken. But see, Ocho, when we were in the locker room, we didn't talk about religion. No. We didn't talk about that shit in the locker room.

We didn't talk about politics. Absolutely not. We didn't talk about orientation absolutely we didn't talk about orientation or we didn't say we didn't talk about that stuff hell nah all i want to know can you can you can you catch the ball can you can you sack the quarterback can you run the ball that's all i care about okay what you do you can sleep with 100 million for all i care i'm trying to win hey as a matter of fact can your boyfriend can he catch? Can he run? Hell, break his ass out here. Right.

They got nothing to do with me. Right. But there are no unwritten rules. There are no unwritten rules. Obviously, the three that nobody needs to say is obviously, you don't talk about nobody wife, you don't try to holler at nobody wife, and you don't talk about

nobody goddamn kids. No, no. and shit and that's pretty much it more yeah i mean just the common common common you know the thing was you know i will hold on i was i think it was old gills podcast they were talking about um about how the situation like, your wife is off limit and then you get, you know, you get, you know, you get your girl. I saw that. No, you don't. No, you put, you get one.

Your wife is on the shelf. Your girl is on the shelf. Everybody else is fair game. Everybody else is touchable. Everybody else is reachable. I saw that. Everybody can be checked out. Hey, that was a good episode.

You lying to me. Hey, you remember somebody said. If you got a wife and you got a bad side chick yeah and you think you're gonna be able to save both of them no you're not you're not gonna save your that girl your wife i ain't trying i ain't even looking at her right but oh you best believe yeah i'm throwing i'm throwing a net out there trying to relay hey it was so funny the conversation he was

having right they they uh somebody said oh i see so-and-so in the stands tonight. Okay. Which one of y'all got so-and-so here at this game? Hey, man, that was funny. Listen, but in basketball players, they got it. They move different way. They do, but they move different. They got a move different way. Okay. If you even tell me, you talk to him.

If you tell me you used to, if they told me they talked to, oh, you know, I used to talk to somebody. I took my tail and run. I ain't got that kind of i can't fight him i can't fight i can't i can't fight what he can do for you now i could you know back in the day yeah you know your boy used to be ready to tussle yeah drop but i done got old now that ain't that ain't in me no more listen but oh there's like oh yeah you get you get your you get your you get your wife your but no no no no no no no you don't oh no hell no you get to put one on the shelf yeah and she can't be touched now if it could be your wife it can be your girl yeah but you don't get to oh no no sir

i don't know what i don't know what they do that at listen for them boys vicious boy they can be vicious all they want to but i don't know if i'll do them boys play a different ball game but i'm zero don't play yeah that's why i can't compete put them zero they got that kind of they see they got that kind of money if you want to keep up with them you don't need track shoes you need a checkbook and i ain't got that kind of checkbook oh yeah so nah nah but i will talk to gil about that when he come back on the way i'm like i heard y'all talking y'all you can't say no you get to save one now you got a chocho you got a choice yeah two people drowning you could only save one you can't save both of them nah you can't you can't swim back to shore with two

drowning people now which one you want to put up there to make sure she's safe? Right. Got another one? Mm-hmm. We coming. Yeah. We coming. I'm a riptide.

I don't know you, but that rip current, you know that rip current? Yeah. Yeah, boy, that thing powerful. Yeah. Even some of the strongest swimmers. You see what you can't. You got to let this go with it. Don't swim against it because all it's going to do is tie you out and drown you.

Go with it. It's all out a little bit. And then come back in. You know what the funny thing is? You know what makes it even worse? Is there are so many, so many fine. I'm talking about the finest of the finest women, right? How many athletes is it that really got it?

Think about it. It's only a select few. It's only a small. It's only a select few. It's only a small, it's only a handful of them woman that an athlete really has to have yeah and it's normally light skin they got that hair

whether it's the Halle Berry crop whether it's long and wavy they mix you know I don't know what it is my grandma used to say my grandma when I was a little boy she said boy you color struck

yeah what she meant by that the red ball yeah see you know what that's She said, boy, you color struck. Yeah. What she meant by that, but the red ball, the high. Yeah. See, do you know what? That's, I had, I had a, I had a different, different mentality when it came to that,

when it came to dealing with women. My whole thing was your DNA. Are you athletic? Yeah. I need it. Listen, I need to see, let me, what you do in high school. Did you cheer?

Did you play volleyball? Did you play basketball? you doing in high school? Did you cheer? Did you play volleyball? Did you play basketball? Did you play softball? Are you athletic? First dates, I'm going on dates where I need to be able to see if you can move. Do you got two left feet? Can your ass make a motherfucking layup? Because I'm going to need your DNA at one point.

At some point, I'm going to need your DNA. Because if your ass, what's the most important foundation when it comes to playing sports? Your footwork. Yeah. And everything you do, your footwork. So if I'm on a date with you where you just oh so happen to get pregnant, now I got to deal with you and my child. You mean oh so happen to get pregnant? What the hell?

You ain't no oh so happen? Yeah, I'm just saying. That's why I only dated people that were athletic. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't give a fuck about how you look because I look good enough for two. I don't care how you look.

All you athletic, period. That's it. That's a good... Hey, you got these dudes going to get these pretty women. They so fine. And then you have a kid and you wonder why your kid

getting picked last in PE because you got there and pick somebody and she can't even make a motherfucking layup. She ain't got no athleticism. She got two left feet. The kid getting picked last in PE but she getting picked first

for the date. It ain't me. Let me out. I'll take her. That's all right. You can have it. You can have that. It's too late now. It's too late. Man, I saw that. I saw that light skin and that long wavy hair. Yeah kid, my kid, girl. It's too late. Man, I saw that. I saw that light skin and that long wavy hair.

Yeah. You like that, huh? You like that? See, look, listen, man. I ain't trying to... You know how the women be in church? I wasn't trying to have no models. I want to have...

You know how the women be in church when the Holy Ghost... Yes, sir. Yeah. Put their head up. Yeah. That was your thing now, huh? Yeah. Back in the day, back in the day. I was young. Yes, sir. I Yeah. That was, that was your thing now. Back in the day,

back in the day. I was young. Yes, sir. You know, your boy, whoo, your boy was man. Oh,

Joe. Yeah. My 20th, early 20th, mid 20th. Wow. What you would do? I could pee in a swinging boot from 25 feet away.

I just say what I used to be. I ain't what I used to be. Oh, Joe. Hey, hold on. Hold on hold on You ain't finna get away with that one Hold on you say you could pee in a swinging boot From 25 feet away Yeah you sway the boot up there

You said a swinging boot So the boot moving and you still hit the boot 25 feet Yeah I walk a little Ocho I walk a little Ocho So the boot's moving and you still hit the boot? 25 feet. Yeah. I don't know what happened to you, boy, Ocho. You know? Now you got to bring the boot a little closer.

Now you got to bring it a little closer, Ocho. But I know it can't move. It's still swinging or it's still? Yeah, I can still reach it. But I just need to boot a little closer. Okay. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah ain't nothing wrong with the plumbing now ain't nothing wrong with the plumbing you know the pipes still work you know i had to get you know what i'm saying a couple years ago i had to get some drano to get

to get the pipes unclogged right right right i like that i like that i like that boy that's a good one that way uh what i roll reliable faith hi ocho and shannon can you remember a time when coach or coach or staff gave you bad instruction and you did you did what believe was right how did you move forward after that? Were you able to maintain a working relationship and respect? Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

But I remember a player like my rookie season, I didn't know the route, and the player gave me the wrong route. I ran the route. It was wrong. Coach Reeves threw my ass out. But, yes, I've had a coach but i was i should have known it's on me see i can't i what i'm supposed to go so now i'm supposed to go tell the oc i'm supposed to hear the head coach this is what he told me right i bite the bullet i don't

tell her nobody i i own that one that's me right i should have known i should have known and if he told me something that i didn't that I knew I'm going to do it my way I'm always always going to take the responsibility I remember one time we were in Minnesota

and I was supposed to be on the line of scrimmage and the Dwayne Carswell was supposed to be off the line of scrimmage but I switched with him

he said nah he said sharp nah man I said don't worry about it I said I'll bite the bullet so they got the they got to so we got to the sideline cool never asked what the what the going on out there who the fuck i said i did it i did it right i switched now what i mean what y'all gonna bitch me i'm about i'll bite the bullet i'm wrong i'm wrong i'm mad enough to say that

but yes i've been told in situations i've told the wrong thing but that's on me because i should know i should have known my playbook better right right but you think like oh man but it's all good it's all good i kept a great relationship because at the end of the day, we all human. We all human. Yeah. When I think about it, I've never had any situations like that where coaches are telling me to do one thing and I did another. I think one of the things that happened with me is the way it's written on paper or the way we went over it in meetings. Yeah. And it's X's and O's. And what my coaches fail to realize, I say more so my offensive coordinator at times bob brokowski i never forget bob we would disagree on things on

ways certain things should be run because obviously on paper there's nobody moving there's nobody moving and it's an x and it's o and you want me to get from point a to point b in a certain amount of time within the time frame of the offense right So I don't mess up the timing of the offense. But Bob, I can't run it that way. I have to run it this way because the guy in front of me, he's not going to be sitting still like it is on that goddamn paper.

Right. He's going to be moving. And he's going to be putting hands on me. Yeah, he's going to be trying to put hands on me. So listen, I'm not going to argue the fact with you, but when I get in the game,

game time situation, just know I'm going to be open. I'm going to improvise just a little bit, but i'm going to stay within the timing of the offense and make sure i'm where i'm supposed to be when it's time for that ball to be thrown that's one of the few things i can remember and recall because he would always harp on doing it the way it's written and the way he's taught it but at certain times depending on the person across from me me understand who i'm playing against there's some things i need to do and improvise a little bit but stay within the timing of the offense well i i've been very very fortunate because uh my position coach

coob uh bp whoever and mike mike's like look we draw them like this but i just get open however you get open. As long as when seven back foot hit. I like that. And you're coming open and he's ready to throw. Because all that, look, all that stuff and you draw it up on tape and on the backboard and you got a scribbling here to do that. Okay, I get that. That sounds good.

Yeah. But come Sunday, them mofos coming yeah get open and and he tried to he grabbed and he took yeah no i'm gonna be open right and john and i've already talked about it hey 12 to 14 he's a running 12 to 14 in practice i know you're gonna cut it down to 22 10 to 12 in the game because everything's happening quicker just hey let's just time it up let's see how it go and we might hey by the end of the week he's a running 10 to 12 in the game because everything's happening quicker. Just, hey, let's just time it up. Let's see how it go. And we might, hey, by the end of the week, he say run it 10 to 12. And come game time, it's 8 to 10.

Yeah. Because at the end of the day, what the coaches say don't matter. They might tell me something, well, run it like this. John say run it like that. Who got the ball? I'll listen to the mofo that got the ball. What y'all talking about with a headset? That don't do nothing for me at all I ignore

I block out all things that doesn't have seven if you ain't got no jersey on right I ain't listening to you come game day I'm not I'm not that's just the way it is key ask with the NFL changing their

policy on jersey numbers, would y'all wear a single digit number or stick to 84 and 85? I'm wearing number two. For real? Yeah, I'm wearing number two in college. Okay, okay, okay. College thing.

I'm number two. I'm sticking to 85. We said in college I had 80. I won an 80 when I got to the Bengals, but Peter Wark, the great Peter Wark, the greatest collegiate receiver of all time had 80.

So I would stick with 85. That 85 is symbolic, man. You know, the single digit numbers are cool. It's something about a single digit number. You got to be that boy dog to wear that single digit number. You got to be that boy. It held more weight to me in college, in high school, little league. I was single digit in high school. I was single digit in high school i was number three in

high school yeah but in the nfl it just it don't hit the same to me it don't it don't hit the same because single digit numbers though it don't because you're not used to seeing it you're not used to see it you're not used to seeing skilled players linebackers dbs and anything like that with a single digit number yeah but i think over time guess what ocho 10 years 15 years from now when you see more of it you're gonna like damn how long they have single digit numbers because i remember when kenny burrow from the uh uh uh wore double zero right back in the 80s for real yeah how come nobody they need to bring that that zero back a double actually a zero maybe not double zero i

think i think you could have zero. See, what would happen if they, whatever you got drafted as. Like, Ahmad Rashad, he wore 28 as a receiver, but he was drafted as a running back. Brad Van Pelt, he was a linebacker. He wore number 10, but he came in the league as a quarterback. So, he got to keep the number. So, there were some oddities, but, I mean i mean you know back then you see running backs with 77 you know the old time you go back to real old footage jojo they got 77 they got 50 right running back with 77 77 yeah oh yeah i think maryland marion motley was 77

that gotta be way back in the day like in the 50s and 60s Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think Marion Motley was 77. Wasn't Marion Motley 77? That got to be way back in the day. Like in the 50s and 60s. I think Motley was in the 60s. Yeah. Marion Motley was in the 60s, right? Or 50s. That's crazy. But he was 77 at running back?

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Guaranteed. Juan D.R., Uncle Nocho loves the show. Should Herbert get more appreciation now that we see the team without him? Look at the Bengals without Burrow. Hell, look at the team winning. You make it seem like they had an unblemished record

when they had Justin Herbert. Yeah, they was bad. record when they had Justin Herbert. Yeah, shit, they was bad. They was bad with Justin Herbert. I mean, to the fact, even when Justin Herbert was there, they were still talking about firing goddamn Mr. Staley. Brandon Staley. Brandon, yeah, but still talking about firing Mr. Staley. But, shit, but Justin Herbert, he's a good quarterback.

Yeah, very good. You know what? I'm so glad the dude asked that. Where would you rank Justin Herbert is, he's a good quarterback. Yeah, very good. You know what? I'm so glad the dude asked that. Where would you rank Justin Herbert? Do you put him in your top tier based on big quarterback, big arm? Where would you put Justin in? I think Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar. Josh Allen. Josh Allen with the play he played this year, Dak.

Yeah. Who else? Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts. I'm drawing a blank. Yeah, Herbert Purdy. Oh, you know who I thought? C.J. Stroud.

Oh, yeah. The funny thing is C.J. Stroud is a rookie, and he's in company already like that. Yeah. I like Trevor Lawrence. Oh, yeah. I forgot about T.L. Yeah. T.L.

Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. Trevor Lawrence has changed that guy's franchise. Marion Motley wore 36. I mean, excuse me, he wore 76,

not 77, 76. Millennium Art asked, Uncle Nocho, big fan of both of you guys for years, love the show. Have a question. What's the biggest thing you and your kid's mother have disagreed on when it comes to parody but that's a good one listen that's a good oh money yeah how much okay okay i was i was i was

a little fortunate i was a little fortunate i was a little fortunate where um where those that those that i have kids from i have kids from those that come from where I'm from. Does that make sense? You understand where I'm going, where I'm coming from? I didn't leave, I didn't leave my front porch and get money and go and try to impregnate those that wouldn't deal with me if I didn't have money. Right. You know where I'm going? So when it came to the situation of being able to take care of my kids and what they needed, it was just for just that, not a means of image and living a certain lifestyle. Right. You get where I'm going?

I get you. I was fortunate in that situation. Right. And one of the reasons why when I do talk, you always hear me mention them and the job that they've done because life could be hell. Especially with the way I did things where I didn't do it the traditional way. Oh, they could have took me to the goddamn cleaners if they wanted.

But I had people with the right state of mind and had, obviously, the goal at the end of the day is for the child. Yeah, I think schooling. I mean, what kid what kid need to be in a 15 you know 10 15 000 a year kindergarten what ain't no such thing yeah the hell you said ain't no such thing so we we we argued about yeah so we argued about stuff like that because i

thought i i didn't think i didn't think uh a kid that was in that kind of was getting that much better of an education. Hell, they ain't doing nothing but finger painting and going to recess and drinking drinking milk and eating cookies anyway. Wait, you speaking from experience? Yeah. Who was going to make you pay $15,000 for kindergarten?

The judge. It is what look. The thing is, Ocho, like I said, I think the kids got a better appreciation for what I did now. I know. See, the thing is, Ocho, like when kids, they just want what they want. They don't really know, especially if the parents aren't together. And maybe if they even if they are together, what one parent or the other parent is doing to make sure they maintain that standard of living. I think my kids now they see how expensive stuff feels,

even though it's more expensive. Now, when you do that three times, right. They like, okay, they have a greater appreciation of it. Right.

And so, but that, but that, but that was it it and then i had you know we we sit down and we talked about it you know and it's like okay and some of like well i think for me i think the best thing for him is to take him out of private school because society ain't private yeah it ain't no situation just because you got this this and this you're over there they're gonna be more in a situation. So I need to get them acclimated to the real deal. So when I think about that, that is a great question. That's a great question, because I have a lot of I have a lot of athletes coming to me, even even this day. And they've been doing it throughout the years. And they always ask me, listen, Ocho, how do you do it? How are you able to handle the issues with those you have

kids from? I only have one, I'm having problems. She's making my life a living hell, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Whatever it may be. And I'm always giving advice. I said, listen, those individuals you have kids from or that person you have a kid from can make your life a living hell, obviously. For one, you got to understand who you had a child from understand understand the makeup and the dna of the person you were dealing with and what they were doing before you came along you already know it wasn't about you it's what you can do so now you got to deal with it now you got to suffer the consequences do everything you can to make that individual happy you don't have a choice at this point yeah You don't have a choice.

Now you stuck. Yeah, Ocho, but you know, when you young, Ocho. Oh, yeah. You don't see it that way. I'm trying to be right. Yeah. I ain't trying to keep no peace.

Right. Shit. I'm thinking long term, man. I'm thinking long term. I'm thinking long term. I'm going to be right. I worry about tomorrow, tomorrow, but today I'm right. Yeah, I got you. Today I'm thinking long term I'm gonna be right I worry about tomorrow tomorrow but today I'm right

yeah I got you today I'm right but as you as you start to get older you're like okay whatever yeah

yeah but you're like you don't want you don't want to get taken advantage of either man that's my thing that's my thing you don't want to get

taken advantage of man bro I got the tell me tell me tell me what the child need say say the reason tell me what the child needs at any point at any time you know i is in in those they know they know i just had i had i had a conversation with one of my moms coming to an agreement like uh this is what uh i have to do for so and so oh no baby you ain't got to worry about that you don't have to do nothing anything she need man just hit my line you know we good you don't have you don't have nothing a nathaniel you got nothing to worry about ever so that even shouldn't be a topic of conversation.

You know? So sometimes, as great as I think I have been as a father, I have so much more work to do. Oh, yeah, for sure. I have so much more work to do. You know? And as soon as you think you've made it or you've reached a certain point where, damn, I'm doing a good goddamn job. You know what? Man, life comes at you fast.

I don't know where you think you are. Oh, I don't live in the past. I already told my kids I can't get back what I lost. I say time is the one thing that we can't recapture. All I can do is try to be the best I can moving forward. Every day, you know, we have a conversation. If you need something, I will give you. I will be honest with you now.

I'll be honest with all my kids. I'm honest. My oldest is coming out here for Christmas. My youngest just left. She was out here like 13, 14 days for Thanksgiving. My son is married now. He's not as mobile as he once was. He's married. Got my grandson. So but I'm, you know, hey, we'll work in progress. We'll work in progress. We slow down i was like and do what i said let's just say for the sake of argument because i'm good enough i can retire now and live comfortably never have to work not never have to say another word

not do anything right i said but what am i gonna do i ain't got no hobbies i don't travel i don't fish i don't play golf i don't i don't build legos i mean so what what what what what would i do if i did nothing and when i wouldn't do that before noon so what would i do i don't look at what i do now is work right this is oh this is fun this ain't no work yeah hey this this ain't this ain't this ain't work this is fun enjoy this. I enjoy going on inside the NFL. Anytime I could still be integrated and submerged in a game of football and still have some piece of it attached to me, that is not work. That is considered fun. But see, that's the thing, because they ask, they're like, Daddy, they've always seen everything that I did.

I thoroughly enjoyed it i thoroughly immersed myself in it and it's like you think we ever we ever go have a job that i said i don't know i say but i want you you should probably find something because there's nothing worse than waking up every day and hating to go somewhere or to be somewhere or to do something. Right. Or I guess the same thing if you were a partner, you wake up every day like, damn, you're still here. I'm still here. What the fuck?

You know, I was hoping you'd be like the Indianapolis Colts in 84. Just move your stuff out in the middle of the night. Damn, you're still here. But in the middle of the night. Damn, you still here. That's bad. But in all honesty, the thing is that

the work ethic, and it's hard. And people ask, the conversation that you have with your kids, given how you grew up, Ocho, my kids couldn't survive one hour. One hour in my life. The 20 years not one right not one

because they've never had a job in which they haven't worked in ac and i didn't have a job that i worked in ac until i got to cbs so i was in my 30s every job i had i was in the damn sun or i was in the elements so or i was in a chicken house or i was in a field and so and i remember i remember i didn't like those but i just remember getting up like damn going to work like man i'm hey there's five dollars where i'm gonna get money for you didn't go to work you didn't get paid right man five dollars go a long way back then yeah ocho but you got to understand ocho i was five or six years old in the fields working 10 12 hours and shit this this this is what i knew from that point on i've never ever slacked on a job my cousin my cousin lanny they called him son that my uh the boss is joe

tatum and tiny they were brothers so we worked for them they called they called me peewee because i was so small i was small as a kid right they called me peewee they called him sundown because he's like mr joe it's time to knock off the sun going down so they nicknamed him sundown right so man we were working one day and he's like man he's like cuz we need to man they need to give us a raise i said well how much he said man ask mr joe for a dollar knowing me they they put i'm the youngest yeah so he pushed me they put you up to it he put he put me a no day he because my older cousin, they were already making, I think they was making like $14 a day. We was making five, walking behind the back of him.

And so I said, Mr. Joe, man, we've been working hard. I said, me and Lanny, man, we be working hard. And man, we need a raise. He said, well, Pee-wee, how much you think you made? How much you think you should get a raise to? I was like, I don't know. Give us a dollar. We need to make $6 a day. He said, okay, Pee-wee, how much you think you made? How much you think you should get a raise to? I was like, I don't know. Give us a dollar. We need to make $6 a day.

He's like, okay, Peewee, $6 it is. So we get the raise. Mr. Joe tell us like on a Monday or Tuesday, we going to get the raise. Man, me and my cousin, we get out there, we start bull driving the next day. My sister and I say nothing. Because it's me, my brother,

my two, Arnell Eugene, rest his soul, Lanny I think Dr. Pearl was there, me, my brother, so it was the crew of us, so we out there bull jiving around, we playing the horse around we done got us a dollar rate, hey

ain't serious no more we get home that night, Libby said granny boys the boys got a raise and uh all they did just all they did today was play in the fields my granny said that's all she said that's all she said she didn't say i'm to tear y'all ass up. She didn't say none of that. All she said, hmm. Next morning, Mr. Joe pull up, blow the horn. Granny come out there. Joe, hey, Mary, how you doing?

She said, I'm good. Libby told me, y'all, you gave them boys a raise. He said, yeah, Mary, they've been working hard. I gave them a dollar. She said, take it back. What? Take it back. What? Take it back. And he took it back. From that point on,

I ain't never went on nobody's job in Bull Jive. I don't care if he paid me $5. I don't care if they paid me $15. I don't care if they paid me $70,000. I give everybody an honest day's work. And that's what my grandma said, boy, when somebody give you an honest day's salary, you give them an honest day's damn work And that's what my grandma said. Boy, when somebody give you an honest day's salary, you give them

an honest day's damn work. And from that point on, I probably was no more than about six or seven. Yeah. Hold on. I might have been, I might have been,

I might have been nine. Might have been, might have been nine. I might have been eight going to nine because I was like 77. It's like in 77. So I'm probably nine years old.

But you better than me because that dollar would have been spun. No, but here's the thing, Ocho. We got, see, back then, we got paid at the end of the week. Right. So we got paid, so,

and we worked a half a day on noon. So, but, so we had the corner store, the corner store. And so we could get stuff on credit. So we go in there. So Honey Buns was a quarter yeah 12 ounce canned soda was a quarter chips the bag you got now that costs a dollar whatever it costs was a quarter quarter back then yeah but so we could go get whatever we want

on uh during the week and then we'll settle up with miss christine at the end of the week so we go in there and my bill oh joe let's see five i got hold up five six so five days that's 30 half a day that was 250 so i made like 30 to 32 50 yeah okay oh joe my bill at the corner store will be about $7, $0.50, $10. Number jump, number knickknack. Right. Number knickknack. But from that point on, when my grandma told that man, even though I was nine years old and we

working 10, 12 hours a day, and we bull job one day on the job, and she told that man to take that dollar back, never again. Yeah. Never again. Yeah. Never again. I ain't never. I have never, ever gone to anybody's job.

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go on somebody's job and not work hard? This is what I tell people, young people, work a lot of jobs because working a lot of jobs as a kid will let you know what you don't want to do when you get to be an adult. Because think about how flexible and how easy it is for you to move about when you're a child now you think out you think i wanted to work 12 hours in a field and then go work another four hours and catch chickens you think i wanted to clip pick up pecans clip onions bale hay you think i want to do that for the rest of my life you know the funny thing about it though but times are different now times are different now people want a lot of money for a little bit of work.

But sometimes people don't even want to put no work in. No. They find loopholes around it. You know, I'm going to go ahead and clock in. I'm going to sit over here and act like I'm working

or doing something. People don't want to work. People don't want to work. Don't want to put the work in for the money that they want. You know, it's different now. There's nobody out there. There are very few people

that really want, you know what? The way you put on that goddamn hard hat and you go to work and you ain't finna play no games about what you do. Everybody ain't like that, huh? No. Everybody like that.

It's different now. Everybody want X, Y, and Z, but nobody wants R, S, T. Ain't nobody want to do that. Nah. Everybody, man, I want to make all that nobody wants R, S, T. Ain't nobody want to do that. No. Man, I want to make all that money. Man, man, you working too hard. I don't want to do all that.

But there you are. You want somebody to take care of your ass, big, rough ass? Yeah. Bro, you got to get it. The funny thing about it is another thing, especially when it comes to women, fellas that are grinding, that are working. You know, women never are around for the grind they never around for the grind but when the product is finished everybody at your front door they ain't never there for the grind you know when it's hot you know you're shooting in the gym or you're out there on the field working your routes

and doing all that but boy let draft a hit let that name go across the bottom of the ticker everybody loves the finished product don't want nobody nobody want to help you help you build or help you get there man i but my grandma always my grandma well something about my grandma these motherfucking sayings my grandma always had my grandma these motherfucking sayings. My grandma always had a goddamn saying. Boy, don't you ever try to build an empire with a woman seeking attention from the village. Okay.

Boy, shit. You can't. You can't. But let me tell you. Let me see. I've dated a few people. Don't need to call no name, but you have to understand. No, no, no.

We need names for reference and context on what you're talking about. Ocho. Yeah. The difference is between most athletes, myself, and I'll just speak. I'll let you speak to you. I'll speak to me. Yeah. People have been

knowing who i was since i was 16 because i was that guy yeah you that i went to savannah state yes you know that guy yeah after my third after my third started my third year from their own i was that guy so i've always gotten attention right you see if you've never gotten attention you want it later in life i'm cool see for me they say fame and fortune give me the fortune f the fame i don't i don't need the red carpets i don't need none of that i'm good but but she she couldn't understand shannon why you don't i I said, because baby, I've been this. I just didn't become

this. I've been this. And I'm okay. And I'm okay now. And people like, uh, that must make you feel good when people want your autograph. I was like, I mean, when you

young, Ocho, when you first started, because I remember my brother, my brother used to get so annoyed. He's like, man, he said, you're going to see. You're going to see. Because Ocho, when I was first... Signing everything. I'm signing. It's okay. It's okay.

And the thing is, the problem that I got now, Ocho, people will await till they get finished with their meal and then come ask you to take a picture of that i'm like oh i noticed you you waited until you was finished with your meal you didn't want it you didn't want to interrupt your meal but you ain't got no problem interrupting mine right you hit him with that for real yes oh so i'm watching because oh i get i you know, I'm watching, I pan. I try not to make a whole lot of eye contact with people when I'm walking.

I'm from point A to point B. Yeah. I hear, but I don't see. Yeah. And so I got my headphones on and I'm, you know, especially when I'm traveling, if I'm going to New York, normally Azure or joins with me, we going somewhere they're normally with me and they know hey, you better have on some track shoes. Hey, it's damn near, hey

my luggage is in the air. That's how fast I walk. It ain't rolling. It's in the air because I'm moving. Right. That's funny. But that's the thing though, Ocho. I'm like, it's,

it's, I mean, it's nice. I'm not going to tell anybody that it's not nice, but I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't crave it.

Yeah. I don't, I don't crave it. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm at once upon a time. I was like,

man, I want people to know me like my brother man i want people to know me like my brother i want people to know me like they know john l where i know be careful what you ask for god just might give it to you yeah let me see it just it just came with the territory for me it came with the territory i i had played and i built myself up to a certain status and certain figure where I became a household name very, very early. And it's still that way. But my approach is always different. You come bother me. You come bother me while I'm eating. You come and bother me while I'm eating at a restaurant. I'm going to make you pull up a chair and we're going to finish the meal together. Like I'm like that.

Like I'm, I'm different. I'm man. I, I always treat people when I see him not saying, I mean, I'm just a little different. I'm a social butterfly. I talk a lot. If, if you, you walk up to me, I hold a conversation with you at 20 goddamn 30 minutes. I ain't got nowhere to go. And I've done it.

I've done this to people before that that bother me out at restaurants or places that might be at the time and i will force you i will force you to sit down with me and finish a meal and have a conversation yeah if you if you interrupt oh yeah you interrupt nah man my oldest my oldest daughter when she when we were when i was when i would get the kids for the summer because i would get them i would get them for the summer right and we go out to eat if somebody come up to talk about autograph she wasn't having it she said nah she's snapping she said this uh this is my time with my daddy yeah with the kids my kids don't be tripping no but she didn't because she i didn't get a whole lot of time with him i didn't get a whole lot of opportunity to sit down and eat right and you know and how was

how was how was camp today you know what we're going to do you know we go hey we're gonna go to six flag blah blah blah and things like that and so she's like just that little bit of time to sign an autograph or to carry on a conversation that was going to take away from her she's always she's always been the vocal one right other ones now my daughter when i went to see her graduate when she graduated and you know people like because i was like i told her mom i said look i'm gonna come in there hey you go in and sit down let me know where you're sitting i'm gonna come in there once the kind of ceremony start ease in there and so once the ceremony is like people started right and so by that time she had started to come she's like nah this is my day yeah ain't no picture i'm the only one taking pictures with

dad right right right right right so i was like hey she's spoken hey listen my kids be funny man you know when we when we when we oh, but we in a pack. This ain't no one, two, or three. Mind you, it's a bunch of us now. When somebody come ask me for a picture, shit, everybody jumping in the picture. Yeah, shit. Now, hey, listen, I know...

They got a family photo. Yeah, family photo. You get every last one of us. It'd be so goddamn funny, man. Ocho, Neil West asked, Ocho, when did you first get into cigars? Oh, man, listen, I'll never forget. 1991. You know when you're young and you want to be cool, you want to hang with the crowd.

But one thing I wasn't going to be able to do is to walk in my grandma's house smelling like no goddamn weed. So what did I do? Because I wanted to fit in. I just wanted to be a part of them. I started smoking cigars because I saw it on the show, I think with Jake and the Fat Man. Remember the show, Jake and the Fat Man? Yeah. Yeah. We had the little bulldog. Little bulldog. Yeah. Man, he had a goddamn cigar. I followed him. I went to high school at Beach High. I went on the beach. There was a cigar place right on Washington Avenue. I'd never forget. I grabbed a cigar and started smoking cigars when I was with the fellas. That's how the cigar thing started.

Now, as I became to learn more about cigars as time went on, obviously now I have my own brand. I've been doing, I've been smoking cigars since 1991. That's crazy for a long time. Very long time. David Bryson said, Ocho, I witnessed greatness seeing your daughter Chanel run track at the Junior Olympics a while back.

She's the real deal. How is she? She's doing good, man. Mocha's out there. Mocha's out there at University of Kentucky. She just won her first collegiate race last week.

Now she's home. Everybody's home in Miami for Christmas break. Oh, Kentucky got a nice little program. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, you know, Sydney McLaughlin, Abby Steiner. Yeah, Abby Steiner, yeah. Kenny Harrison.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, so she's up there getting that good work in. She won her first collegiate race last weekend, so I'm excited. I'm excited. Yeah'm i'm i want i want to see this i'm gonna see the trials i think the trials uh is up in oregon i'm gonna take some time off if it ain't i got some time off but i'm gonna go see i'm gonna see the liberty i hadn't seen the trial since uh 96 olympic trials uh damn yeah they were in atlanta you've been busy

yeah i but i love track and field it's my favorite sport to watch for real yeah my favorite sport is my favorite sport is soccer Rodney Dinkins that's my boy from Korea will you be doing night

camp with the Olympics absolutely we're going to come on during the Olympics I've already reached out to a couple of participants that I think are going to be in there. We're just waiting. My boy, Rob Benjamin, Fred

Curley. Man, Fred is going to race me, man. Boy, you about to say that ninja will blow the nose off you. You crazy as hell. Fred don't want no... Fred ain't got that kind of horsepower

to hang with somebody like me, man. Man, look here. You talk about a man that got... He one of the top... You talk about a guy that got 100 meter speed, 200 meter speed, 400 meter speed.

You know what I got? Let me tell you what I got. I got 400 meter speed, 200 meter speed. Yes. You know what I got? Let me tell you what I got. I got 400 meter speed, 200 meter speed, and 100 meter speed. To talk about, man. No, no, no. Now you smoking a cigar,

your lungs don't... Shit me. I work out every day. Oh, man, look who calling me, man. Real. Now you know I'm on the show right now now yeah we still live real come on man you doing that you play you playing with money man don't play my money like that

yeah man come on now i gotta go yeah so rock to answer your question yes uh we're gonna try to hopefully we're gonna be able to line up some correspondents um reach out to some people um i'm very i'm very i'm very very excited about the olympics and wish those guys the best of luck uh afazel remon love from uk guys oh thoughts on dating nia long She's single and classy. You guys would love great. I guess you said look great together. Ocho, set this up. Nah, we good.

You good? Yeah. I mean, I know her. Check this out. One of my ex-teammates, Harry Swain, his wife and Nia were best friends. Yeah. his wife and neil were best friends yeah so i met i met her um back in night at the first in san diego so that was in nine that was in january of 98 and then there was an event out here back in 2017 2018 but i actually took a picture with whether she asked me did i remember

and i'm like yeah i remember. And so we had a conversation. So that's the only, but no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm good. I'm good. Man. You ain't talking about, you ain't talking about too good, man. Look here. I may, might not have gotten over her.

You know, he'll call LeBron out of his name. So he might, you know. Okay. Okay. I don't want no smoke. No. I'm going to get you right, man. I'm going to get you right. I'm going to get you right I'm going to get you right

I'm going to get you right because you ain't something no Regina Hall no Nia Long I ain't talking about no Regina Hall I don't know they say my celebrity crush I said she my celebrity crush

I know but we could make that crush Happen It ain't gotta be no crush It could come into fruition It could be a real thing Ocho why you don't just Let me live my life

I'm letting you live your life But you ain't living it right I'm living it right Ocho man you Man Say this out Ocho Hold on Man

The real superstar gamer Uncle Ocho. Hold on. Man, the real superstar gamer, Unc and Ocho, big fan of you both. I did something unbelievable. I sucked my girlfriend toes with butter, ketchup, vinegar, and honey. She told me, where did you get the idea from? I said, Unc and Ocho. Her response was, oh, my God, I love you. Hey. See what I'm talking about? See what I'm talking about? I said, Uncle Ocho. Her response was, oh my God, I love you. See what I'm talking about?

See what I'm talking about? Let me tell you something. Hey, young fella. Now, listen. We got to take it to the next level now. Don't wait until next level. Take it to the next level. Now, you done went through the toll.

Now, get you some whipped cream, right? Turn on the stomach. You hear me? Get you some whipped cream. Turn on the stomach. Stay with me. Now, get you some whipped cream, right? Turn on her stomach. You hear me? Get you some whipped cream. Turn on her stomach. Stay with me. Now get you a strawberry. You better have a plate sitting on her back. Nah, ain't no plate. Get you a strawberry or get you a cherry.

Take that whipped cream. You know where to put it. Hold on. Ocho. Yeah. Ocho, you don't got everything from toes to elbows and in between. Yeah. Are we in between right now?

We in between right now. Listen. You know where normally exit, but you never enter? That's where you put the whipped cream. You hear me? You put your mouth there? Your whole face, boy. What you talking about, man? that's where you put the whipped cream. You hear me? You put your mouth there? Yeah.

Put your mouth. Boy, your whole face, boy. What you talking about, man? Ocho, Ocho. Ocho, Ocho. I got the, okay. Okay, when she on the back, I get the front part.

Right. But come on, Ocho. You put... I guess you right around the corner. The slip of the tongue ain't nobody fault, Ocho. You right around the corner. Just drop it. Listen, the goddamn tank ain't nothing but this big, boy. You never lick no ass?

Oh, my God. God dang, Ocho. I mean, Ocho. I mean, Ocho. mean Ocho See y'all Y'all done ruined Ocho Y'all done ruined it Ruin what?

Cause I heard That these young boys I'm talking about on the first date Be doing all that Okay Young You gotta listen You gotta be like Christopher Columbus baby You gotta explore now These young boys, I'm talking about on the first date, be doing all that. It ain't got to be young. It ain't got nothing to do with young. You got to listen.

You got to be like Christopher Columbus, baby. You got to explore, now. You got to explore. No, man. Nah. Man, you be getting best around to be done got shit, Ray. Fooling with y'all. Fooling with y'all.

Ocho. That you, Ocho. Okay, you got a girl. Y'all been together for a year or two. Okay, fine. But Ocho, y'all doing that off the rip now yeah you supposed to do it on the rip oh hell come on Ocho now y'all can I ask you a question

you told you like do you like have you been fishing before yeah I like to fish you ever threw your fish in the goddamn water without the motherfucking bait on there no can you catch a fish in the goddamn water without the motherfucking bait on there? No. Can you catch a fish without the bait?

But when I go fishing, I'm fishing for a particular type of fish. I don't just go eat it. I just don't go fish for everything. Listen, when you go fishing, whatever you catch, you eat, don't you? No, hell no. I thought back about what I'm fishing for. What the hell wrote you? Hell nah.

Man, you out your damn mind. Like, come on, nah. Just because you get on my line, that don't mean I'm going to reel your ass in to keep you. Hey, come on, man. You got me. You got me right there. That was a good one. That was a good one.

That was a good one. Now I see why your boy been out of gas lately. He's all young, but you young boys, these young boys doing it up out here, I see. Nah, but listen, this ain't nothing new. You just behind the eight ball. You know, listen, you still got the Motorola Razr. You got the Motorola Razr, and we got the goddamn iPhone 15.

That's the problem. You just say you not evolving, Unc. You got the Motorola Razor and we got the goddamn iPhone 15. That's the problem. You just say you're not evolving, Unc. You're not evolving. I'm evolving. You got to evolve with the times, man. You be doing that caveman shit. Nah, Ocho. But I ain't gonna lie, Ocho. I walked in one time with my homeboy.

I thought my homeboy was looking at curtains. I thought he was looking at the curtain. Yeah. He got the booty cheeks open like that. Yeah. Yeah. I said, oh, my goodness.

I said, that's what y'all doing now. That technique is bad. You can't open this way. You got to get your little oil on. You got to get your little oil. You know, because you don't want to split the crack, man. Because, you know, if she's dry, you can split the crack. You hear me?

I need to take this to the heat. Ocho cho y'all doing too much oh i swear oh y'all y'all doing too much i'm just trying to get you where you're trying to go baby i'm just trying to get you trying to go sean sean record ass oh why you grossed out about eating booty yeah you eat positive raccoon but oh but i had to up to that. That's an acquired taste. I guess booty is an acquired taste. And you think ass ain't an acquired taste? What? Can they fry it?

Can they fry it? They can do it Jamaican style? What about Korean? That's a delicacy. What about Indian? It's a delicacy. Yeah, man. I'm telling you. Man. It's a delicacy. It, man, I'm telling you. Man. It's a delicacy.

It is? Huh? Yeah. Listen, listen. You take the talk. You know what? That's, that's, no, I ain't gonna go there. I gotta say, I gotta say, I gotta say some good shit for tomorrow.

Oh, Joe. So, so in other words, so in other words, so this is like, this is like a first date kind of thing. A first date? Boy, first impressions are everything. What?

When you fill out a goddamn resume, you go on that goddamn job interview, do you go on that motherfucking half-stabbing or are you trying to get the motherfucking job? You trying to get the job, ain't you? What shit? Huh? Lift them up, turn them, flip them, spread them, toes, in the air, ice. So I need to put the muscles to use. I need to put the muscles to use, love.

Put it to use. Man, listen. But, Ocho, I can't do no 180 like that, no 220, 210. I need a fun size. I need somebody about 5'10". No, no, no, no, no. No, I get you. But like you said, like you said, 210, I'm all in.

Oh, no. Ocho, I can't hold no10 like that. Nah, listen. She upside down. You standing up. Listen, she stand... Listen, stay with me now. I'm with you. She upside down, right? Yeah. But she faces that way. What?

Yeah, that way. And because you strong, boom. And right here, all you got to do is just put your head down. It's right there in front of you. Remember, she's facing that way. So her head down at the bottom, but she's facing the opposite way. So boom, it's right there in front of you. A little whipped cream right here.

A little whipped cream. You spray it. Put a little cherry there. Boom. Get the cherry. Get the, you know, boom, like that. I don't want no chase. Well, if I'm going to do all that, I don't need no chaser.

So you putting chase on that thing. I don't need no chaser. Wait, if I'm going to do all that, I don't need no chaser. So you putting chaser on that thing. I don't need no chaser. Wait, hold on. What's the chaser? The chaser's the cherry? The whipped cream. Oh, you don't want no whipped cream? Mm-mm.

Oh, that's just to dilute the taste in case you got any turtle heads. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We going to the shower. I'm washing that thing myself. I ain't taking her word for it. Oh, no. That thing will be, when she come up out of that thing, it'll be hog chitlin' clean.

There you go. Pick his stand. There you go. Yeah, I'm going to do that one. But, you know, I mean, this is for the rookies. This is for the rookies, just in case. This is for the rookies, just in case. But hold on.

Sean, you have to understand. I ate possum and raccoon when I didn't really have a choice. Wasn't nobody bringing no baby back ribs. Wasn't nobody bringing no New York strip or no pride. So that's what we had to eat. Yeah, right. But listen, I guess that's why

my phone don't be ringing. Yeah, I mean, that too. But we got to get you to evolve, man. Man, you done got drunk. You done drunk off booty juice. I don't drink. You do it all that? You booty juice drunk?

No, no, no. I don't drink. I don't drink. I'm in the right state of mind. And listen, the funny thing about it, those that are in the chat. I promise you, Ocho, don't you offer me nothing. Look here, if we get stranded on a desert island, and we ain't got but one jug of water,

if you drink out that water, I'm done. I'm out. Hey, just go ahead, go on by yourself. Hey, Ocho, go ahead on, man. Tell my kids I love them. Tell my brothers and sisters I love them. Everything's been taken care of. But I ain't drinking after you, Ocho.

I can't do that. You're going to be all right, man.'t drinking after you, Ocho. I can't do that. You're going to be all right, man. You're going to be all right. I can't do it, Ocho. I'm just trying to get you right, huh? I'm just trying to get... And you don't put that... And you don't...

Hey. And you don't put that much tongue in that girl, monkey. Oh, no. How much... Nah, man. Nah, I live further than that. About the edge of the hair? Nah, about...

About four. Four inches of the hair nah about about four four inches of the oh jeez man man I'm gonna let y'all have that one listen matter of fact

listen I mean the chat I mean I have a YouTube tutorial on stuff like this. So if anybody wants a little bit more extensive extensive tutorial on some of the things you can

do, you can go to my YouTube and check out my tutorial. Yo, they can check out your tutorial? Yeah, yeah. I have a tutorial. It's called the Ocho Ultra Kama Sutra. The Ultra Kama Sutra tutorial. Oh, Kama Sutra?

Yeah. You know, I did have one of those posters. I did have one of them. But man, you can't do all that. Look here, man. They just be putting stuff up there, man. People can't be doing all that. Man, people can't be doing all them positions.

Yeah. I mean, you can. You can, you know, but. Well, I mean, to do some of those positions, you need one more plunder and pedals. I ain't got one of them. Man, you know what I'm saying? My thing got GPS. It go right the way it's supposed to go.

I ain't got one of them things that be looping all around and going up on the corner. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Ojoa. I ain't got any. Hey. Hey. Boy, you shot out. Ochoa, Ochoa is a menace

that you have unleashed. Ochoa is a menace that you unleashed on the world. Now you're responsible for this. Yeah, unfortunately I am, guys. Unfortunately I am. Man, this joker here. Ocho, they say they're going to tell an official license game every time Ocho

tell an obvious lie to take a drink. What have I lied about? Anything I've said on this show on multiple occasions is through life experience. Life experience. I don't believe you. Just like when I said I beat goddamn Gilbert Arenas in one-on-one.

He was like, hell no, you didn't. And then he had to come on and tell you the same thing with LeBron. I'm waiting on LeBron. I'm waiting on Westbrook. Who else I beat one-on-one? D-Way, Carmelo. Who else I beat one-on-one? DeMar DeRozan. uh who else i beat one-on-one d-way carmelo uh who else i'd be one-on-one demar demar the rosen

um i mean all all these dudes i mean i beat one-on-one and they were struggling against me because i'm so goddamn quick and fast it had nothing to do with height and he had nothing to do with none of that off the dribble boy you done marcus says my queen and i love the show it would mean a lot if y'all could help me wish Tierra and Corey a happy birthday. Tierra, Corey, happy birthday. Happy birthday, T. Hey, make sure you grab that whipped cream tonight, boy. Yeah, that's a special occasion.

Yeah, that's special. See, that kind of stuff, that's special. I'm talking about special, special, special. Like, special like fifth anniversary 25th anniversary stuff like that oh yeah or okay valentine's your her birthday that ain't that ain't no oh baby oh i'm feeling frisky let's do this that ain't that ain't that kind of thing right right right i mean you with me i mean this ain't something that you do on a normal okay I mean this it's gotta be special Ocho ain't shit me

ain't gotta be special but every well you shit boy wide open boy I'm from I gotta take my glasses off for this one now

I'm from Liberty City man wide open down 95 doing 100 what you waiting on? This is hard, folks. AJ Diaz, Uncle Ocho loved the show. Two questions,

do you have a favorite Undisputed episode or a segment you're extra proud of? And Ocho, what story you've always wanted to tell her but never got a chance? Man, look, bro, I'm gonna be honest with you, AJ. Every episode that I did, I had six years, nine months of great.

There were a few times that I thought it went over the line, but bro, I poured my heart and soul into it. I can't even lie. I was as prepared as I could possibly be and like i said i'm not gonna let two three bad episodes ruin the six years and nine months of great times so for me um it was great when skip gave me the goat and i had to go and he had the 23 jersey on um i've had i had some great i had great moments i've had a thousand more great moments the great moments overshadow

any bad moments and i think the thing what happened is that people have replayed the bad moments so much more so than the good moments but man I had an unbelievable that was I wouldn't have been here without Undisputed no matter what transpired at the end there is no nightcap with Uncle Ocho I don't believe without Undisputed

I don't believe that there is Shannon on first take without Undisputed I don't believe I'm the number one sports celebrity voted for by Complex Sports Personality, voted on by Complex without Undisputed. So I appreciate everything Undisputed did for Shannon Sharp. What you got, Ocho? What you got? What story you've always wanted to tell who you want to tell what

you want to tell but never got a chance a story that i want to tell yeah i ain't really got none you're gonna you know i'm i've been an open book since day one so i don't really really had nothing i don't i share every goddamn thing you know and the fact when you live your life public like that well you don't have nothing you share every goddamn thing going on i tweet every goddamn thing. You know, and the fact when you live your life public like that, where you don't have nothing, you share every goddamn thing going on. I tweet every goddamn thing I'm doing, where I'm going, what I got going on. So it's like there's no surprises. So I ain't really got nothing to share because I tell my fucking world my every fucking move. Love the show, fellas.

Question for both of you. Unc, top five hip hop artists from Atlanta and Ocho you top 5 hip hop artists from Atlanta and Ocho top 5 hip hop artists from Miami god dang shit from Miami Ross, Pitbull Uncle Luke uh

Trick Daddy shit Trina I'm talking about I don't want to say no wrong it ain't even fair I mean I can't it's too many people from Atlanta

oh man and there's some I'm missing but I'm just off the top of my head I'm just thinking of the people from Miami

off the top of my head yeah well you can't have no list from Atlanta that involve hip hop without Usher

so Usher. Usher, not hip-hop. That's... So... He talking rap, though, huh? If you want rap, okay, rap. Bro, we got OutKast, we got Future, we got Change,

we got T.I., Weezy, I mean, not Weezy, or Jeezy. Y'all got a lot. Y'all got a lot. Y'all got a lot. Big Boy, Andre 3000, Y'all got a lot. Y'all got a lot. Y'all got a lot. Big boy. Andre 3000. Y'all got a lot.

Yes. Y'all got a lot. We, man, we loaded down there. Um, but if I had to say, and I know, I know most of these. I forgot Trina. Shoot. Jackie. Oh man.

I can, I can keep going. And you know, we got baby. Y'all, we got baby. We got face. We got TLC. We got Monica. Y'all got a lot, boy. We got, you know,

we got a skate. We loaded. And we got them things down there too. that. And we got them things down there too. We got magic, allure, you know, diamond. Huh? Yeah.

Okay. Okay. How should the NFL handle a situation like Matt Araza going forward? The punt god. He was the guy that, if I'm not mistaken, San Diego State, right? San Diego State. He led the nation. He was the Luke Groza award.

He led the nation in punting. He got selected by the Buffalo Bills. I think, what, second, third round? But he was a high draft pick for a punter. And at a party, young lady says she was sexually assaulted and accused him of being a participant.

Yeah. Hey, Ralph! Hey. Hey. Don't be coming in this goddamn house this time. It's late. Fuck got going on uh it's damned if you do it's damned if you don't yeah that's because if they done nothing everybody gonna say man they ain't do nothing to him he got accused of this and if you do something and then they say they overreacted i just don't know in a situation like this i i honestly honestly luke i don't know how the nfl because they've never been

faced with situations because when the nfl was instituted they have no manual for this right so this is trial this is figure it out as you go along um i'm just glad he was exonerated. He was found. It's tough because, you know, you get that scar, you get that letter hung on you. You know,

it's tough. Yeah. It's tough. I hope some other team, hell, Broncos give him a chance. Ravens,

somebody give him a chance. He deserves an opportunity. He's too good. He's too good because the question that I hell, Broncos, give him a chance. Ravens, somebody give him a chance. He deserves an opportunity. He's too good. He's too good. Because the question that I have, Ocho, had this situation not arose, would he be in the NFL? Now that the situation has been, he's been cleared, he's been exonerated, what's the holdup?

So hopefully everything works out in his favor and he gets an opportunity to get to play in the nfl yeah he probably will next year i'm sure i'm sure i'm sure somebody will pick him up if anything go ahead maybe the bill is bringing back next year what you think i hope so i hope he gets an opportunity he deserves that uh amber lewis, Uncle Nocho, been a fan since day one. Watching live from the island of Guam. Love you. Who dat? Thank you, Amber.

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Holidays are right around the corner coming up real quick. Make sure you go out and get a bottle for you or a loved one um who else we got what we got what we got what we got uh ever okay uh spoke luau self-spoken luau my name is lauron and i love what you guys are doing what advice would you give someone who thinks they're not enough are you talking about you don't think you're enough or she doesn't think she's enough? That's a good one. Say that again. So I get a better understanding of what he was asking.

What advice would you give to someone who thinks they're not enough? Damn, if you don't think you're not enough. Are you speaking for yourself? I ain't never thought like that. Listen, confidence is key. I'm more, oh yeah, oh yeah.

Confidence is key. Me ain't got confidence for this shit. You losing the battle already. You done lost half the battle already. Yeah. You always got to have that confidence. Always. Women like a man with confidence. Yeah. You got to. You got to walk like it. Always. Women like the man with confidence.

Yeah. You got to. You got to walk like it before you even open your mouth. Your aura, your presence. It's just how you carry yourself. Yeah. You got to be confident. When they see, when they see, when they see, when they see, oh, that's a man.

Yeah. Yeah. The way, the way I carry myself, the i conduct myself uh i'm firm i'm sturdy but they like okay he's subtle okay yeah yeah yeah smooth got a big heart yeah yeah sense of humor i got a great sense of humor sometimes I, if you guys hadn't noticed it, uh, and yes, they like,

you know, I often wonder like comedians when they meet someone, do the, do, uh, the person, do they want them to, you know,

tell them jokes or tell them stories. And I often wonder that, but you know, Ocho, over the last seven, eight years, people want to hear stories. Yeah. Yeah.

Your experiences, some of the things you've been with. And the stories that I've been telling, these are the ones that I could tell on air. Some things would probably need to go in a book or go in the grave with me. That's the bad part, because the stories that I've told, I probably got a thousand more that I can't tell.

Right, right, right. Laney Ray says, you always talk about what you're giving others for christmas what's the best christmas gift you've ever gotten and what do you want for christmas oh yo that's a good question the best christmas gift best christmas gift i've ever gotten and i don't even like gifts i like i like to be doing the giving, obviously, to the kids. I do. I'm definitely a giver. Yeah, I'm a giver as well.

Best gift I've ever gotten. Oh, my goodness. And I'm simple, too, with the gifts I like. I like stuff like soccer jerseys, you know, retro stuff. My mom got me a pair of Air Jordans. The twos. I got a pair of those. I got a what did I get?

Remember those handheld football games that came out like in the 70s, the late 70s? They used to have a football game. Like a little football game. Yeah. I got to see it. Uh,

I'm trying to think best favorite, best. I'm trying to, I'm trying to think the best gift that, and I think, I think Lainey Ray, I think that's her name. Uh,

I think when she's asking, like, I think she's talking about a gift that someone like a female has given yeah oh shit i think probably i know what i gave him a mean one i mean what crippled i gave mama a mean one yeah man said okay said Santa Claus came down to tripple and heard that and went right back up there. What? What it was?

Well, I gave her a mean one. You gave who a mean one? Man, she told me she needed, told me she wanted 10 inches to make it hurt. Yeah. I hit her three times and hit her with an elbow. Yeah. And I was out the door.

Woo! Woo! Woo! Come on, boy. Don't even play with him. Don't even play with him. Damn, best question. Nah, I tried to... Oh, man, Ocho.

I'm trying to think. Because I'm like you, Ocho. I'm really simple. Probably... I can't even think of that. simple. Probably. I can't even think of that. I can think of one of the nicest gifts I got in general, but not Christmas time.

Oh my goodness. Probably, no. The best gift, it wasn't just Christmas, it was for my birthday. I had an ex get me a picture of my grandmother.

It was the picture that I have in my truck. And it's me and my brother at the Hall of Fame. And then my grandmother is in the background. Ooh, that's nice. That's the... That's nice. That's the... That's nice. Because it was... I mean, everybody knows what my grandmother means.

And then I just like, for the longest time, Ocho, every gift that I had gotten, I had given the individual the money to get the gift. So when I started getting things and the woman to get the gift. So when I got, when I started getting things and the woman was buying it with her own money, that I'm like, okay, well,

I'm simple. I don't, I don't really, really, I don't know. I know one of the nicest, just give me a card, just give me a card.

And if I deal with you like that, you know, you know, you know, we know what it is. Yeah. I think that the nicest gift I ever got was, obviously, you know,

you know, I love smart cars. You know, people have made fun of me and my smart cars in 2006, but, uh, Ms. Ms. Thing in there,

you know, every time I hit 10,000 miles on a smart car, I get a new one, you know, and I put the matte wrap or the black matte wrap on it and I got to the 10,000 yard

mark on one of them and this one here surprised me with a new smart car and I think that was yeah man that was that was dope you know I'm really simple Ocho because like I said you know, but just tell, you know what, I'm really simple, Ocho. Because like I said,

you know, my kids always say, Daddy, what you, what do we get you? What do we get you? Daddy, what can we buy you that you don't already have? And you know, I wish my kids would ask me that

because I'm going to say, I want me a yacht. I want the same kind of yacht goddamn Mark Cuban got. So y'all pitch, y'all get your motherfucking money together. I want the same yacht of yacht goddamn Mark Cuban got. So y'all get your motherfucking money together. I want the same yacht just like that. Well, they better

start developing something. Developing something to get that yacht that he got. But for me, Ocho, I just think, look, like I said, I'm simple, man. I just, hey, miss you, thinking about you, love you, hey, kiss, I'm good. Yeah. I mean, I'm simple, man. I just, hey, miss you, thinking about you, love you. Hey, kiss. I'm good.

Yeah. I mean, I... Because Christmas has lost the meaning because that's not what Christmas was about. I mean, it's not what it's about, but you know, it's hard to tell kids that Christmas is not about giving... No, I ain't talking about kids. I'm talking about the kids.

The kids gonna get toys. The kids gonna get toys and stuff but you know so i'm just yeah i'm that's a good one let me try the thing what would be if somebody if you could say you know what if you say if you could get one thing for christmas right now right now me right now yeah oh give me cigars i know i have my own brand of cigars, but for me, it would be a box of chat. Listen to me. If y'all want to send me some for Christmas, send me a box of Daniel Marshall, 24 carat gold leaf cigars. Get me a box of, I'm going to say it again. You know my address. Daniel Marshall, 24 carat, gold leaf cigar. Yeah, that's what I want. Now, you get, if I wake up Christmas morning on the motherfucking 25th and I got a box of them motherfucking Daniel Marshalls, somebody in this house going to be pregnant. And they're going to be due next year around September.

I tell you no lie. Yeah. I just, I just, hey, I just, you see, I had to throw that little hint out because I know

she could probably hit me. You ain't going to beat me to the punch. God, I tell you what, when I was a prepper. You said 2020, 2024, we're having kids.

Yeah, man. I want to come down there because I'm going to post a picture of my Christmas tree. Yeah. I'm going to post a picture of my Christmas tree. I want to come down there because I'm going to post a picture of my Christmas tree. Yeah. I'm going to post a picture of my cribba tree. I want to come down there and what about it? Yeah. Okay. And look over that tree.

That's a butt ball. That's what I want. That's what I want for cribba. Oh yeah. Ocho, you owe me some underwear. Laughing at you guys. Tonight is one of the best. It's one for the books.

Cool whip. Ocho, you want some underwear, too? Nah. She ain't talking. I think she's talking about maybe from laughing. Oh, okay. Yeah. She didn't say you messed underwear.

Black and gold for life. Ocho, will you let her put whipped cream on you from the back? Oh, oh. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Just like I'm, listen. I just explain. I do all, I do, I'm just as I'm a giver. I'm the giver.

I'm the pleaser. I don't, no, no, I don't work that way. No, no, sir. No, sir. I like where you was going with it, too. It's a good question, though. Black or yellow, you let up with the whipped cream. I don't need no whipped cream back then. No, I'm good. I don't play that.

No, sir. No, sir. And listen, you got to ask these days, too. Where you going, baby? Yeah, you got to ask these days, too. Where you going, baby? Yeah, you got to ask these days. That's a good question. And you know me. I don't care.

I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you. I talk about everything. I'm an open book. Always have been. But no, I don't play that. KGL Nero, what questions do you guys ask on the first date? Also, would you guys consider doing the Amazing Race together?

Much love. Wish you the best of you guys. Hey, that'd guys consider doing the Amazing Race together? Much love. Hey, that'd be a good one. Man, Ocho ain't going nowhere with you. Ocho, that means we got to drink out the same jug. That ain't going to happen. That's the first thing you think about. The Amazing Race, we going to win. We going to win the Amazing Race because of our competitive nature.

Do I get my own jug? Yeah, you got your own jug. Okay, well, we can possibly do it. Golly. Well, we can't go to no desert. You trying to sabotage? Man, all I've been thinking about, that juggernaut has a cool whip.

Cherry ice. Yeah, he done had somebody's booty cheeks pulled apart like he look at the curtains. Hey, we going to get you there, man. No, we're going to get you nowhere. Leave me alone. Leave me alone. Trust me.

Now, leave me alone. Ocho, you're going to be nasty your whole life? Hey. Clean your life up, Ocho. You want to be the Pope? No. You want to be the Pope or you want to give a woman hope? Which one?

You want to be the Pope or you want to give a woman hope? Which one? You want to be the Pope or you want to give a woman hope? I want to give her that rope. Damn! Man, do you guys, hold on. Ocho, he said, what do you guys like to ask on a first date?

How much? Because we're supposed to ask that question, remember? How much? Huh? Yeah. How much? What do you like to do? Where are you from?

You got any brothers and sisters? What do you do for work? Are you from, you got any brothers and sisters, you know, what do you do for work, you know, are you from here? I ain't asking all that bullshit, man. That's that old... I ain't got time. That's all that gray area bullshit, man.

Man, what's up? What you trying to do? Ah, hell nah. We gonna eat, man. What we gonna do? You trying to... I mean, so you asking, so what you trying to do? You, hell nah. We going to eat, man. What we going to do? You trying to... I mean, so you asking, so what you trying to do?

You trying to box or throw rocks? Are we barbecuing a meal or doing? All these questions and all this shit. Are you barbecuing in case y'all just going to eat? We at dinner. We at first date.

I'm sitting here pretending like I care, you know, talking about all this bullshit I really don't give a fuck about. Like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Man, you trying to fuck or what? What's up? Oh, Joe. Come on, man a fuck about, like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Man, you trying to fuck or what? What's up? Ocho.

Come on, man. I mean, you know, Ocho, when I was young, you had that. He got time for all that, man. Ocho, I'm 55. You know what I mean? I said, y'all, what we going to do, you know? Because you know, I be pocketing Ocho. Come on.

Baby. Man, Uncle here talking about first date questions, man. He going, asking all these questions, man. Like, you know, where you like to go, what you like to do. And I ain't trying to hear all that shit. What you trying? I'm trying to, I'm trying to flip your ass upside down. I'm trying, I'm trying.

I'm going to make you touch every goddamn, every wall in this goddamn hotel. I ain't what you doing. And we ain't got time for that shit. I mean, I'm 55, man. I'm 55. What are you doing? I got, Ocho, I got that. Ocho, come on, man.

You know, when you get 55, man, you know, you just can't just roll up and say this thing like a 20-year-old, 30-year-old. Yes, you can. Yes, you can. Just, hey, listen, you pop that dime and you ask the question. You put it under the tongue, right? That liquid. That liquid you put up under your tongue. Just, hey, listen, you pop that dime and you ask the question. You put it under the tongue, right? That liquid. That liquid you put up under your tongue.

Yeah, yeah. Put it under your tongue and you ask the question. You got time for all that shit. What if they say no? Huh? Then your stomach hurting. Why would your stomach be hurting? Because when one say no, you got another that's going to say yes. Nah i'm gonna i'm gonna go on and take it home i don't struck out

for i don't struck out for the night that was one in baseball there's three strikes nah i i got i got one conversation i got one day tonight in me yeah well you better than me boy i'm just saying back in my day boy i used to have about three four dates one night yeah oh hell no yeah yeah that's that's the old that's the old me that's the old that's the old me uh i can't believe you asking that talking about what what what what what it looking like tonight? Yeah, come on. It's the problem. We start like everything

is so fake though. Like you go on a date, you ask all these questions, you ask all this stuff you really don't care about and you go to the motion just to just get skip the bullshit. I'm speaking as older. Think about even the women, the women that are in the bullshit. I'm speaking as older.

Think about even the women, the women that are in the chat. Think about all the times you went through what I call the emotions, doing everything the right way. The dates, the wine and dine,

the blah, blah, and he reaches the end goal and then boom, he's gone. Oh, Joe. He's gone. You can't ask a woman Oh, he's gone. You can't ask a woman on the phone. I don't. You can ask whatever you want, depending on who you are.

Some people don't have a choice. Sometimes you have to go through that. It ain't me. I can't ask you barbecue and a meal doing on the first night. Well, that's not you. I ask. And you see, you see where we at now, four years later. They the chat calling you, Mr. Oh, nasty, not Mr. The chat calling you Mr. O'Nasty. Not Mr. O'Nasty. Man, listen, man. I carry myself in a very classy way. Because it wasn't until this show has opened me up to let this all out.

Yeah. Oh, man. Quanto asks, what's up, Okinocho? Do you guys have any advice for high school seniors looking to play at the next level but not having much luck getting offers? I mean... Fuck that offer, baby. Go where they want you.

Yeah. Go where they want you. Yeah. Go where they want you. If you're getting some offers, what's wrong with the offers that you're getting? I mean, look, the reality of Ocho, when you're growing, I mean, look, I might want to date old girl over here. Right, right, right. But she ain't interested. So what am I supposed to do?

Go chase after somebody that's not interested? Nope. Right, right, right. But she ain't interested. So what am I supposed to do? Go chase after somebody that's not interested? Nope. Go where you want it. Date the woman that likes you, not the woman that you like. So go to the school that wants you, not the one you want to go to.

Right. Works every time. Every time. What else? What else work every time, Ocho? I can't believe you don't Ocho. Boy, Ocho, you don't send me for it. For what?

You. But listen, I'll tell you every time and I'm going to keep on telling you, man, you ain't living. You living, you alive, but you ain't living. There's a difference. I'm living, Ocho. Not Ocho.

You alive, you alive. You doing great things in life. I can't take that from you. You alive, Ocho, but you Unc, you alive. You alive. You doing great things in life. I can't take that from you. You alive, Unc, but you ain't living. There's a difference. There's a difference. And I'm going to get you to cross that bridge soon. I ain't got you there yet.

Ocho, but you trying to put whipped cream and honey on the fur off the muscle? Man, off the muscle. But we ain't... Unc, listen. tomorrow ain't promised. What you waiting for? Tomorrow is not promised. What are you waiting for? I mean, if I eat booty on the first night

and something happens to me, God ain't going to let me in the kingdom. I'm going to get a booty. You coming here before me? Don't worry about it. Because God damn, you know what they were doing back then? They wasn't doing all this, Ocho. They don't do... I don't know who started this. coming here before me. Don't worry about it. Because, God damn, you know what they were doing back then? You know what they were doing back then?

They don't do it. I don't know who started this. Listen, there's only one person that can see without anything happening, and that was motherfucking Mary. Now, everybody else, the birds and the bees. They done took this thing

to a whole new level. It ain't no level. Listen, what I'm talking about They done took this thing to a whole new level. It ain't no level. Ain't no level. Listen, listen. What I'm talking about, and just like technology. You're a master. You got the highest level.

Not really. What I'm talking about, and just like technology. Technology has evolved year in and year out and gotten better with time. You got to do the same thing, hun. You still stuck in the goddamn 50s. You like, you Fred Sanford in the bed anybody know what these are what the hell is that

them joins them joins I want the uh the people in the chat you know I got I'm gonna start it look like somebody drew on them um I used to wear shoes i mean i got a nice collection but what happened is i don't really go anywhere so i guess now each night i'm gonna have to bring out a pair of my shoes and see if the chat know what these are hey you got you got jones but can't hoop that that's that's counterproductive all i know is that i average 30 as a high school senior what do you average as a high school senior yeah you average 30 as a high school senior i'm beating nba players in one-on-one there's a difference there's levels to this oh there's it's a difference oh i don't i stopped playing basketball i ain't played back

oh joe honestly i have not played a game of basketball seriously since 1991. This is what you fail to realize. I don't even play basketball. I don't even watch the game of basketball. I can't even talk it. But I can beat the best at it because I can play the game. Ocho, you ain't listen to the way. I ain't listen to who?

That ain't no accident i mean that ain't no accident that is an accident look like a mosquito stung you like a big old bump you know what that might be a dr pill pop or pop that thing for you oh shit oh lord oh joe look we're having we at 241 oh joe we can't be going this long oh joe why you wait we've been on here what we've been on here 2040 minutes yes how the hell it feel like we just started we ain't no just started well i'm curious you know i don't even know listen i'm on the show and i don't even know the goddamn show format how long are we supposed to do originally we were supposed to do 60 to 75 minutes okay 60 minutes so we're supposed to an hour no actually actually ash just informed me the So we're supposed to do an hour? No, actually, actually,

Ash just informed me, the original version was supposed to be 25 minutes. For 20? Oh, I talk, nigga, I can hold a conversation for 25 minutes. We can't do, that ain't gonna work.

I talk too damn much for 25 minutes. Clearly, we can't do 25 minutes. Clearly. Nah. That's apparent. It doesn't look like we can do an hour either.

Hour ain't enough time it's too much stuff to talk about there's something wrong with you though we might as well go to I need to chat to pray for you for what all that

everything I talked about the chat probably already doing and the ones in there people gonna act like they not. I thought I was doing something with the wheelbarrow. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? The wheelbarrow? Yeah, man.

Those people got these hips right. Oh, hell no. But I don't know, Ocho. You're going to a whole new level Ocho I see that you got him going crazy huh the chat praying for you Ocho

you tried to be a bad influence on Unk he is uh for you, Ocho. They say you tried to be a bad influence on Unk. He is. He tried to... Uh... Leon... Leon Edwards beat Colby Covington. Yes! We should take up a collection. I'm gonna send

Leon Edwards. We're gonna find Leon Edwards' information. I'm gonna send him five grand. I'm gonna send him five grand personally. Leon Edwards? Yep. What round? I don't think he knocked him out.

With the decision? Yep. But just the fact that he whipped his ass. Because all Kobe Covington, Decision. Yep. But just the fact that he whipped his ass. Because all Kobe Covington, he tries to get around. Oh, LeBron James is this. Bro, LeBron James is an NBA player. You should worry about whipping MMA fighters ass.

Beat Kamaru Usman. Beat Leon Edwards. Those are the guys you should beat. What I look like talking about? Oh, yeah. Messi. I'll beat your ass? Oh, yeah. Messy. I'll beat your ass. Oh, Rafa the Dog.

What? I'm going to send Leon Edwards five grand personally for my account for whipping your ass, Colby Covington. I love this. Beat him. Beat him. Now take that. What else you got, Ocho? You got any more suggestions for me?

To get you some whipped cream. You got whipped cream in the house? No. I'm diabetic. I'm diabetic. We got whipped cream in the house no baby i'm diabetic we got whipped cream left huh hey ocho they say you should start your own brand of whipped cream no i ain't no i ain't no that's why i see man this y'all gonna do on the first night I see why you can't shake them you doing all this

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and you got a $1,000 meal. Can we build up to it? Ocho, if you want to build, you can get some Legos. I didn't say it, Ocho. If you want to build, you can get some Legos. I didn't say it, Ocho. If you want a bill, you can get you some Legos. Ocho, I do. When you know, you know.

See, hey, hey. That one there? When you know, you know. When I know, I know? Yeah, you know. If you don't know, I'm going to make sure, I'm going to find one for you and you're going to know.

Well, we've been on this thing three hours. I don't know what to tell you, Ocho. I just wish you... I'm praying for you. Me and the chat, we're praying for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Shoot, listen, I'm praying. I'm praying, I'm praying. I mean, I guess, you know... I'm praying for the chat. What the more people say, I'm praying. I'm praying. I'm praying. I mean, I guess, you know, I'm praying for the chat. What the more people say, I guess we all standing in the need of prayer. We all standing in the need of prayer.

All of us need prayer now. Yeah. That would never go without. We all need prayer. Always. Without the shadow of a doubt. You pray after you have sex? Who? You. Who?

You. Damn. You know what? No. I do. Who are you? Who are you praying to? I don't know,

baby. Forgive me. I know I was wrong. Right. I know I was wrong right i know i was wrong wait hold on hold on hold on were you praying after sex but you don't do nothing too crazy so you ain't did nothing wrong we gonna we gonna we gonna we gonna need you to evolve and backslide a little bit then you gotta ask for forgiveness oh Ocho, Ocho, no. It's a build up, Ocho.

Okay. Well, God, baby, you're 55. How long are you going to keep building? Let me ask you a question. Were you a first team all pro your rookie year? You had to learn the ropes, had to learn how to run the routes, had to learn how to get open, had to learn how to drop your hips, get in and out of breaks. You build that up on choke.

Come on now. We, we, I mean, come on now. Come on now. But the clock is ticking now. Man, I'm 55. You make it seem like I'm 75, 80. I ain't saying shit. 75, 80.

You shouldn't be. This shit, you should be done. Should be what? You should be done. I ain't going to quit till it quit. I got you. You right. You right.

You right by that. You right by that. I'm healthy. I eat my fruits and vegetables. I didn't want to make so. Do you have that plus one yet? Oh, Joe, I will be straight. I will be straight.

Just know. Bahamas. When is this? I told you when it is. Are we going to do a nightcap from the location? Oh, we could do a nightcap from the wedding. Baby, we could do a nightcap from the wedding.

She said, yeah. Nightcap from the wedding. So it gives the people that aren't able to come to the wedding an opportunity to see our... Yeah. We have like 100,000 in the chat. Oh, easy.

Easy. I'm going to be in my suit and she's going to change like three or four times. I styled her dress. I styled her... I'm styling her dress. You did it?

I mean, I am. One of her looks. What's your color? Let me stop. She got the color. I don't know the color combination off the top of my head, but I'm doing one of her looks. What's your color? Let me stop. She got the color. I don't know the color combination off the top of my head, but I'm doing one of her dresses,

one of her looks. You know, I ain't even know it was that women are supposed to change two or three times. You don't have to, but they do do that. I didn't know that. Yeah, you got your actual

bridal gown. You got the reception. Right, right. And then they change again. So, I'm doing the third. I'm doing her third look. I'm doing the third look. So, a third look. I'm doing a third look. So I'm excited. I'm excited for you. Yeah. I mean, that may be opportunity over there. You know, I let my hair down. You know, there you go. You know, they got they got they got whipped cream in the Bahamas. I've been saving it. I've been saving it.

I've been saving this old tongue for a rainy day, Ocho. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I've been saving it. Let's go. Come on. You know what I've been saving, Ocho? Hold on. Hold on Hold on I'm plugging my computer back in

We about to die Hey listen man Boy Boy If this ain't the greatest God damn show If this ain't the greatest God damn show

Boy if this ain't the greatest goddamn show, boy, my stomach is hurting from laughing. Listen, we could have fun, but then we could be serious too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We, you know, because there's something wrong with you, Ocho.

There's something wrong with you. Oh, ain't nothing wrong with me, baby. Ain't nothing wrong with me. Listen, I just, I've adapted. You said that earlier on a topic we were talking about earlier about adapting adapting to the times you're not adapting and evolving with the times you're still using the big ass cell remember the big big motorola motorola 1800 uh cell phone that's what you're still using you know so what should i know? So what should I be using? Huh?

What should I be using? Maybe the new Android or some shit or the new iPhone but everything, all your life has to evolve and adapt with the times but you stuck way back in goddamn shit. Well, you stuck when the goddamn Manhattans first came out. Huh?

Nah, Ocho, you know, you boy, you know. You know, I'm slow and steady. Yeah, we're going to get you right, though. Nah, you slow and steady, but you worse than slow and steady because at 55, and you frowning upon just a little... Ain't no little,

I mean, you got me. Come on, Ocho. Damn. All right. We going to stay off that. We going to stay off that. I mean, I'm in the right... Okay, I ain't in little. I mean, you got me. Come on, Ocho. Damn. All right. We going to stay off that. We going to stay off that. I mean, I'm in the right. Okay.

I ain't in the far right lane, but I'm next to the right lane, which is the slow lane. You're trying to get me to go into HOV. You should have been in the HOV years ago. You ain't even in the HOV. You parked on the Meridian. You parked on the Meridian with your goddamn flashes on trying to get over, but the traffic just passing by you.

You scared to come out. I ain't scared, Ocho. You scared to come out. It's okay. We gonna get you there. And yes, they do sell whipped cream in the Bahamas, so you're gonna be ready.

We gonna get you right. Baby! 2025? No, fool. 2025. No, 2025. Yeah, it's already set. February?

February. Wait, February. February 22nd. How the, how the, so what's going on the 24th? Huh? What's going on the 24th? Nah, we're getting February 22nd, 2025. Oh, shit.

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