Nightcap - Nightcap - Mahomes & Lamar Dealing + Date Etiquette

Episode Date: October 23, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson discuss the Eagles beating the Dolphins, Patrick Mahomes dealing, Lamar Jackson MVP level, date etiquette, and more.  #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thanks for joining us again. If you haven't hit the subscribe button, please do so. Make sure you tell your family and friends to click that button. Ocho, we're already at 160,000. Remember we ended Thursday. I think we were like 125, 127, somewhere in between there. So we picked up about 30, 35,000 in the last two and a half days. So people are catching on there. They're liking what they're hearing from you and I.

And we really appreciate your support. So make sure you tell your friends and you do so. Also, if you haven't clicked that subscribe button to make sure you get all the latest details on when we're going to be on, because you never know. We might just pop up one night. we're not even supposed to be on. We just might have something to say. So I know I said on Thursday that we're going to have a special giveaway. We need a little extra time because we want it to be special. We don't want it to be rushed. We don't want to just give you some grab bag ass you-know-what.

So we're going to take a little bit more time. We're going to be a little bit more thorough, and we're going to make sure that when we do the giveaways, you really, really appreciate what we're giving you. So without any further ado, Ocho, the Eagles beat the Dolphins tonight 31-17. Jalen Hurts was 23 of 31, 279, two passing touchdowns, a rushing touchdown, did have that pick six. A.J. Brown, 10 catches on 15 targets, above 37 on a touchdown.

Let's take the Eagles first. What did you like? What didn't you like? You know what? At first, I can tell you in the first half, I thought it was going to be, before the game even started, I thought it would be a high-scoring game. I'm thinking 40, 35-some points, obviously, with both offenses being high-octane. Obviously, the Dolphins' run game was stifled in the first half.

The Eagles didn't seem to be intimidated with the challenges in facing Tyreek. Obviously, he did get away a few times. Obviously, scoring once, the Philly defense controlled the line of scrimmage, which was really good throughout the second quarter. And they really came on once the Dolphins fell behind in the second half where the Dolphins had to throw the ball to try to get back in the game and try to make it a game.

But obviously they couldn't do that. So the Eagles played decent football. Obviously the turnover from Hurts, you can't do that. You don't want that, especially in a game of this magnitude. And if it wasn't for that defensive don't want that especially in a game of this magnitude yeah um and if if it wasn't for that defensive line and how good they were in the in the eagles being ahead it could have been it could have been a lot different and the outcome of the game could have been different you know due to that interception but they played so well defensively they were able to overcome it yeah uh

i like what i saw um they started getting aj brown involved in the ball game late in the ball game and i think that's where his frustration come he's like guys if y'all can get me the ball in the third and fourth quarter you damn sure can get it to him in the first half and you see in the first half they were middle and round it seems like they couldn't get it couldn't get on rhythm and the moment jayla hurst said you know what man let me feed this man this rock yes the offense started going because the eagles didn't run the ball as well as that. We know the Eagles can run the football. So I thought Miami did a great job of that, of taking away the run because the Eagles want to run the football and then set play action up off of that.

But I thought the Dolphins did a great job of controlling the line of scrimmage as far as running the football. And they got after him also. Chubb had a sack, I think, 15. I forget his name. On the other side, he had a couple of sacks. Yeah, Phillips did a great job of pressure. As a matter of fact, he got a sack off of Lane Johnson for the first time somebody's gotten a sack off of him since 2020.

So that lets you know what type of pass rusher that he is. But I did notice something early on. I saw Jalen Hurst limping. He scrambled, tried to get out, got out of the pocket. He got a first down, but he kind of pulled up gimpy. He came out in the second half with a knee brace. I don't know if anybody saw it, but I saw it. Because, you know, quarterbacks,

if they're not customary used to wearing a knee brace, they're not putting anything on. They like to feel free. They like to be able to play. Not just quarterbacks, everybody. I mean, a wide receiver doesn't like wearing knee braces. If you don't spat your ankles, you don't like having taped ankles or anything like that.

It makes you feel restricted. Right. You don't want to feel restricted. But I thought once he settled in, I thought Jalen Hurts, once he settled in, he played really well. But, again, we see that that that turnover margin that interception is steadily increasing Ocho because last year in 17 games he only had six picks he got eight right now we're not even at the midway point so I'm sure that's something

that they're talking about they're constantly on him about guys as we get the Cowboys are coming up coming up here shortly and the one, what did their defense do? They pride themselves on taking the ball away, putting their offense on a very short field. I think one of the things you also, you also have to notice is obviously that pick, it wasn't like someone was being covered and it was just actually picked off, but it was a tip ball.

You were trying to get to somebody and Jerome Baker was able to, was able to get his hands on the tip ball. It was unfortunate. If anything, I think you could have just threw that one away, just threw it in the grass or whatnot. But on the Dolphins' end, this is more of a win for them still, even though they did lose the game. To be able to keep a game that close, playing a team like that, and you didn't have Xavier Howard, you didn't have Jalen Ramsey, who will be back maybe next week or maybe...

The week after. The week after, it's a good thing. It's a good thing because the backup played extremely, extremely, extremely well for the Dolphins. And when you get those two back in your arsenal, who's knowing what that's going to do for your defense? Right. With two turnovers tonight, Jalen Hurts has 10 turnovers on the season that's second most in the nfl trailing

only desmond ritter who has 11 last year jaylen hurts had eight interceptions all season long and he has 10 already so turnovers yeah 10 turnovers total uh he had two more turnovers tonight uh tour was 23 of 32 2166, one touchdown, one interception. And Miami's going to need to show me something against different competition. Now, we see what they did to the Denver. We saw what they did to the Panthers. We see what they did to the Giants and the Patriots. But when they step up in competition, the Eagles, the Bills,

we see them get handled. So in order for if they if they want you to if they want us to take them serious they're gonna have to be team because i'm not so sure how many teams that we think that they they've beaten we think the broncos are gonna make the playoffs what about the giants what about the panthers maybe the chargers maybe the Chargers. Patriots, I don't think the Patriots are going to make it. The Chargers, maybe. The Chargers are 2-4 right now, so it ain't looking too hot for them.

It ain't looking promising for them either. So what we've seen is that when they step up in competition, remember they hang 70 on Denver one week and then they get almost a 50 spot hung on them the following week. And then tonight, Philly steps on the gas,

and all they see is taillights. So Miami's going to have to pick it up when they step up in competition. Right. I think the only problem with Miami is I think they need to start faster. They need to start faster. When you're playing a better team that are really good defensively, like the Eagles, the first half, they were nowhere to be seen. They were nowhere to be seen. They were stifled in the first half.

They couldn't really run the ball the way they wanted to. They didn't get in the flow offensively as being able to throw it and facilitate the ball the way they'd like. There were no little dinks and donks, little passes here and there. But Tyreek didn't get going the way he could. Jay Nwadu didn't get going the way he could as well until more so in the second half. I think if they start faster,

then there won't be as much pressure. You don't have to play from behind like they were in this game. Oh, yeah. But Tyreek did drop a touchdown. He did drop a first down. And listen, I don't even call, I'm not even calling that touchdown,

that drop for the touchdown. He was moving so goddamn fast. Hey, listen to me. Tyreek was moving so goddamn fast he was bringing the ball in and his knee hit the ball out but see and I went back when he said a couple of years ago he said a couple of years ago I said this I said that Steve Smith senior now well you know Smitty we were on and I said I don't think Tyreek is a natural a natural catcher of the football meaning his hands like a Devontae like some of the great receivers that we've seen.

That doesn't mean he's not great. You know what I'm saying? Everybody does. I mean, some wide receiver might not have great speed. Jared didn't have great speed, but that didn't diminish his greatness. Yeah, Jerry Rice had what I like to call football speed. Yes. Football speed, right.

Alain Fitzgerald. Chris Carter. There have been a Chris Carter. There've been some great receivers that didn't have Tyreek speed. He took it and said, well, I'm trying to diminish him. No, bro.

You don't have to possess all the physical tools in order to be great. And, and I'm like, bro, I was thinking about like, bro, you was on my podcast. If you feel some type of way,

you had me right there. You could have talked to me either on the podcast. I'm going to rub something by you right quick. Or you could have talked to me after because, you know, you came with your family. We talked, you know, chew the fat before we went before we got on the pod. So like I said, God, if you've got a problem with something I said, listen to the context in which I said it. I didn't say you weren't great. I said, I don't believe you are a natural catcher of the football,

meaning hands. And that's okay. He's okay. I saw him before the game today. I was field side, obviously. I was doing my little E8, my little Madden stuff. But I saw him before the game. I actually saw all the players before the game.

And he didn't mention anything. He didn't mention anything about it. So everything was cool on that end. But listen, when it comes to catching the ball, obviously it's situational. Some people are more comfortable catching with the body. And that's okay. That's okay.

Because there's one goal in common for all receivers. You got to be able to catch the ball. How you do it is on you and it's based on the situation at the time. Yes, yes, yes. Because there are some quarterbacks that's not a natural throw of the football. Right. You take Aaron Rodgers, he's just a natural throw of the football. He born with that.

Yeah. Aaron Rodgers can be 60 years old, and he might not be able to throw over 30 yards, but it'll be nice and tight. Oh, yeah. Because he's just that gifted at throwing the football. The chiefs beat the charges. 31, 17, Patrick Mahomes, 32 or 42, 424, four touchdowns, one interception.

My home boy is back on top of the AFC. Ocho, I tweeted something today. If we keep labeling these quarterbacks elite, we're going to have to call my home something else because his level of greatness is, I mean, when you watch him play and he's dealing, it's not even close between him and anybody else. Listen, he was dealing like he was in a casino in goddamn Vegas this game. He played for them, getting the ball, facilitating the ball around to everybody. So defensively, it makes it that much more difficult.

Who can you key on? Because if you key on Kelsey, somebody else is hurting you. I'm going to let somebody else hurt me. I'm going to let somebody else hurt me. I ain't going to let Kelsey kill me on National Tight Ends Day and he happens to be a tight end. This is the funny thing about it. Patrick Mahomes is so great.

Patrick Mahomes is so good that if you do key on Kelsey, then you got to pick your point. And because the person at the helm holding the football is going to kill you regardless of what you choose to do defensively. It's amazing. It's amazing, Ocho, how he's been able to change his game. Because when he had Tyreek, Tyreek could blow the top off the coverage. He could throw the top off the coverage.

He could throw the ball 60 yards over your head. Now he really doesn't have a guy that can consistently get down the field like that. So now it's more 10 yards here, jailbreak screen, shovel pass, flat route. Okay, let me scramble outside, make ad-lib. His big deep threat target has been taken away. And he still last year goes and win the MVP, goes and win the Super Bowl MVP.

That just goes to show you the level of greatness that he doesn't miss a beat when you take one of the greatest weapons in NFL history away from him. Right. And he's still able to do what he does. I thought he was going to go for five bills today because he had like 320 something, 325, 330 at the

half. So I'm like, oh yeah, he about to come out. He about to come out and give them. And to read them, I think they came off the pedal a little bit. I think they came off the gas a little bit. I think when it comes to coaches, I think they have a pack where they don't just blatantly disrespect the opponent to an

extent. I just have a feeling because they could have easily, Patrick could have easily thrown for five. Listen, I wouldn't go beyond saying he could have thrown for six if he wanted to. If they were to step on the gas and keep running the offense the same way they were in the first half, they could have done that.

But here's the thing to Ocho, is that that's what kind of got Atlanta in trouble in the Super Bowl. You're up 28-3 and you keep your foot on the gas, and all of a sudden you get a script sack, you get a pick six, you start taking unnecessary risks. So Andy says, okay, let's take a check down. Let's take a flat route.

Let's not do anything crazy because our defense is playing so well. And give kudos to Kansas City and Steve Spagnuolo with that defense. They've done a great job this year. And Patrick Mahomes, for the most part, has done a great job of not putting them in harm's way. Now, he did throw one early in the ballgame, and Asante Samuels came down with it. But it was kind of like a punt.

It wasn't in negative territory. But the Chiefs are playing really well right now. I think if you had to take a vote, I think most people would vote them number one in the AFC. And no surprise, Mahomes is always going to be hovering around that MVP. Tua, I think before today's game, Tua was the MVP favorite, followed by Mahomes. Lamar has definitely creeped back in.

We're going to talk about him a little later. But I thought Travis was going to break my record on National Tight Ends Day. He wouldn't do you like that. He wouldn't do you like that. But what's the record? You 12-219, right? 2-14. 12-214.

But you was cooking. You was cooking. Against Kansas City. You got to tell the people that story, the people that don't know about your record now. But here's the thing, though, Ocho. The funny thing is I had 31 yards at the half. That's it? That's it.

I had 31 yards at the half. So you got all that on the back end? Got it at the back end. We came out the half, and Kool said, we're going to call counterpass. And we called counterpass. We knew Greg was going to start the game out with cover two. I get down the hole.

I split it. Greg Robinson, rest his soul, he used to be our defensive coordinator. When we won the Super Bowl, he was out D.C. And I remember telling him, I was like, Greg, if I ever face this defense, I would kill you guys. He's like, oh no, Shannon. was like, Greg, if I ever face this defense, I would kill you guys. He's like,

oh no, Shannon. I say, Greg, I say some of the things that you do is just unsound. I said, if somebody had a tight end that was as gifted, that could run and was fluid, I'm telling you, lo and behold, I get Greg. He's the defensive

coordinator at Kansas City. Man, and you know, Ocho, once you get going, the ball, the football I get Greg. He's the defensive coordinator at Kansas City. Yeah. Man. And you know, Ocho, once you get going, the ball, the football, I mean, I could see Paul Tagliabue spinning on the ball. That's how laser-focused I was in on the ball. Really. It looks like a beach ball. That's when you lock in.

Yeah, yeah. Lock in. It didn't matter what grease you throw. Grease could throw it off the top of my shoe. I would catch it off the top of my shoe. I was just everything. It was just one of those days and then i was like he got 143 at the half i was like wow and then the charge is like no we got to take you away because you single-handedly 143 is a lot for a tight end and a half now you know i've had i

think i had a game uh uh we played carolina one year 97. I think I had 154 at the half, but that's a lot of catching for a tight end. And they started doing the same thing. They started doubling me and the game got out of hand. But if you notice four games, Taylor Swift has attended Travis Kelsey is averaging 108 yards receiving per game in the game that she hasn't attended. He's averaging less than 47.

Now, I don't know if they're in a relationship or not, but I got some money for her. She come, every time she come here, it's 100,000. Yeah. Hey, listen. 100,000. I like that, you know, we on the football topic right now, but I want you to look.

Just stay with me real quick. I want you to understand what the presence of Taylor Swift has done for Travis Kelsey, not only on the field, off the field. Things for him have just been in his favor. And God always has favor. But God said, when a man findeth a woman, he didn't even get to the wife part yet, but the blessings in his cup is continued to runneth over. I just want you to see where I'm going with this, but I'm going to get back on that later, but just

understand. You didn't know? You my Taylor Swift. Since you came into my life with a nightcap, you my Taylor Swift. I don't need you. I don't need a Taylor. You it. You Taylor.

I appreciate you. I love you again to tell you. You in. You a sailor. Hey, listen, I appreciate you. I love you again for the opportunity, and I'm glad we're doing well. But I'm talking about for us to get for you, for you personally, because I'm here for you. God put me in this position, and God put me in your life to get you in a position that you've never even envisioned before. And in order for you to get there, it's going to take a woman's touch. You know, it's like your pencil. You can write with your pencil,

right? Yeah. You got it right. Just fine. But something about when you, when you get a woman on your side and she's sharp in that motherfucker, man, let's,

let's stick to football right now. We can't get off. We can't get off track. What happened to the, what happened to the woman? Every time I write something, she erase it. What'd I do with that one? You ain't going to football right now. We can't get off track. What happened to the woman every time I write something, she erase it? What'd I do with that one? No, you ain't going to have that problem.

You ain't going to have that problem because the woman that you're going to deal with now at this point in life, they're going to understand. They are here to sacrifice and understand the journey in which you are about to embark on and they are willing to enjoy and take that ride with you. Yeah, I hear you. If I'm Travis Kelsey, she coming to the games. I don't care what y'all say. She coming to the games.

I'm superstitious like that. She can't come to the game or she is? She coming. Let me ask you a question. Let's just say for the sake of argument. This is our game right here. You got an extra seat in there? Yeah, so let me ask you this. Let's just say for the sake of argument, before you met This is our game right here. You got an extra seat in there? Yeah. So let me ask you this.

Let's just say for the sake of argument, before you met Rell, you played. And you have a girl show up to the game, and you go for 10 for 190 and two touchdowns. And she come to another game, and you go for eight for a buck 50 and a tub. Is she coming to the next game? Or you say, nah, baby, you chill on this one? Nah, she comes. You did all right. Yeah, you know, I'm not really superstitious.

So I remember I put together a string of games like that. We played San Diego. I had 260. Then we played New Orleans the following week, and I had 190. And I think it was maybe 500, almost 600 yards in a two-game span with like five touchdowns, right? But then when I think about it, there was nobody coming to them games, and I thought about the game

plan that they had in place for me, but I thought that was more so on why that I had the games that I did. But that's a good one. That's a good one. And Travis got to come to home games. He got to go to away games. Oh, she coming. Oh, I'm in. Baby, don't you Travis got it. She got to come to home games. You got to go to away games. Oh, she got me. Oh, baby, don't you worry

about it. I'm gassing the jet up. Don't you worry. Don't you. Hey, you don't you spend your money. I'm gassing this jet up here. As a matter of fact, Clark Hunt is paying for the gas. It is what she's the chief's owner. He got the this was on him, baby. You're coming. Just come on and come.

Oh, let me ask you a question what's your highest ranking on Maddie what's the highest you've been ranked the highest I've been ranked yeah I think if I'm not mistaken

a 98 overall what yeah yeah yeah I would listen I was that boy back in the day now I was that boy I was nice

I think you know for me and I'm I'm gonna be I'm gonna really be honest with you I don't think people understand really how good I was unless you are really a football person. Right. Because the antics and the fun and entertainment that I had. Right. Take away from all the hard work I actually put in to be able to pull some of the shit I did off.

Right. And I'm just being honest. And that goes for people. Even that even even the most highest analysts or those that have been watching the game for years, they allow the antics and entertainment to get away from actually how good I was. Well, I mean, that happens. But I like it like that. I enjoy that. I enjoy it. And that's what I wanted to be remembered for.

So it is what it is. Well, that's what happens. I mean, they say, well, he just talks. He's loud. He's braggadocious and all that. But, and so now when the NFL has started this National Tight Ends Day

and the NFL started posting clips and people like, hold on, okay, now I see why Unc was like that for real. He was that boy now.

Yeah. But here's the thing though, Ocho, see, you was a 98. I was one of the few guys that's ever been a hundo. Yeah,

but y'all higher than 99. Yeah, for sure. I've been here. A hundy. Run tell that. For real? A hundy. What year was this?

99. A hundy. I need me some shoes that said a hundy. The gold shoes? No, a hundy got to be platinum. Gold is for 99. I need me some shoes that said 100. The gold shoes? No. 100 got to be platinum. Gold is for 99. I need platinum shoes.

I got to check the archive. I got to check the boat. I got to check the boat. I ain't never heard of no 100. Because normally during the game, I wore red shoes because I clown foods. That's what I did. For real though, Ocho. How's it going? I said, look here, let me tell you what I'm going to do.

I'm going to give it to you the first half. You're going to be jealous that I didn't give you any, so I'm going to give it to you the second half. But now y'all going to get it. All y'all about to get all this here. So, don't worry about it. Don't worry about my shit. Don't tell him to shut up and stop talking to me because I'm about to start talking to you. I'm about to hit you up too.

Oh yeah. You're a hundred. I got to do my homework. I ain't never out. I know you didn't. And after that, nobody else could ever get a hundred. They never, after 99 they cut it out. After 99

they cut it out. No, no more hundreds. You're the last hundred then? Last one. Okay. After me, there'll be no more. Okay, I like that. I like that. It's 99. It's up there right now. They're looking at it. When they got the 99 tight ends, like Gronk was 99

for a couple of years. Kelsey's been 99 for a couple of years. But the first guy up there, he about to stop playing with me. I'm too big of a cat to be played like a kitten. Somebody got to send that to my phone, man. Somebody got to send that to my phone. Hold on.

Hold on. That's like being in the grocery store and starving. How the hell you can go on the grocery store and starve? You work at EA. How the hell you somebody need to send it to your phone? And you talk about 99, 99. I was still in high school in 99, so I got to go back.

I got to go back and check. That's how long I've been kicking for. When you was in junior high, I was cooking them. I used to go, I keep telling you, people used to see me on the field with a pan, with a pot.

They say, man, when you got that pot, I said, I'm going to cook you foods. That's why I got this pot out here on the field. I'm cooking crabs today. Yeah, it's a low country bowl. I got crab. I got a sausage.

I got corn on the cob. I got potatoes. All you bums getting it. Sound like gumbo to me. Yeah, I'm giving it to them. So pull up a table, because I'm about to make a mess all of you. Oh, man. Yeah. Hey, check this out. Did you see Taylor

Swift and Brittany Mahomes handshake? Yeah, I saw the little... It was cool. They need a little choreography. I don't like that. I think that's something you need probably... Now, Taylor, you're an entertainer. Great at what you do.

You rehearse the moves. You just don't come out. You didn't come to SoFi and have them four sold-out shows, five sold-out shows, and just got up there and wing it. You got to. You're like, hey, Brett, check this out. I'm coming over. This is what we're going to do.

If Patrick throws a touchdown, this is what we're going to do. If Travis catches a touchdown, this is what we're going to do. This Travis catches a touchdown, this is what we're going to do. This is how we're going to hit him up. You can't get there and get there like, okay, what? But, you know, Britton is not the entertainer that Taylor is, so she probably like, damn, what did she say? Do we slap hands first and then chest bump? Or do we slap, grab hands, you know, spin around, click our heels,

and then she forgot to say, oh, F it. Let's go. They got to work on something. They got to work on something. They got to work on something because you know you got the eyes on you already. Yes! If Travis Kelsey scores, if Patrick Mahomes does something,

the cameras are going to be on you, so you got to be on point. You got to be on point. You got to steal the show. You got to be almost like... Every moment counts. Yeah. You almost got to be like LeBron because LeBron got a different handshake for every teammate. Everybody. Everybody. Him and AD got one. This one got one. The coach

got one. The trainers got one. The got one. You know the funny thing about it? When I see LeBron do the handshakes for everybody, every fucking handshake is different and they never mess up. Yes. They never mess up. Yeah. But see, LeBron is so – he's so disciplined, and he's so like, I got to get it right.

Oh, they practice that every single day. Yeah. Oh, they don't – they didn't get – oh, this is what we're going to do. You know, when you see all the guys, they doing this, and when Dame doing it, hey, you rehearsing that. Because in college, me and the other receiver, I wore number two, he wore number three. And we had our thing that every time we scored,

which was a bunch, I scored a lot. Right, right. You know, there it is. I'm saying, don't choke. There it is. Again, another one. Like DJ Khaled before Khaled and another one. Yeah, yeah, hits kept coming.

Yeah, for sure. But did you have a handshake celebration with a teammate? I don't know. I ain't had no handshake celebration. I did all kind of using props and all kind of stuff. I ain't had no business doing. So I pissed the NFL off, and I'm okay with that. If I could do it again, I'd do the same stuff all over.

I think, you know, I was like, man, I'm going to get the fan. I think I threw a ball up in the stands and they called me $2,500. I said, $2,500 for a $100 football? I said, hell no, I passed out $2,500 for these things. I ain't throwing no one for them. Yeah, listen, you got to think. If you throw a football in the stands and let's say it hits a fan. Yeah.

It actually comes back in the suit. You know that, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And that come back and sue. You know that, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And that's what they're concerned about, liability, people fighting for the ball and somebody get hurt. So I get it. I get the principle of the matter.

Right. That, look, I understand you want you to get the fans, and the fans love that. Because this is an actual ball that Shannon Sharp or Ocho Cinco or somebody actually scored a touchdown or they got a pick, recovered a fumble. They did something special. And I have this. This is something that I'm going to have

for the rest of my life. So I get what the NFL is trying to do. Ocho, did you know this? We got 21,000 people watching us live as we speak. 21,000. Right now? Right now. Boy,000. Right now? Right now. Boy, you bullshit.

Man. I ain't never had 21,000 people watching me at one point ever in life. What about the games? What about the games you with that? I mean, Cincinnati all had like 15,000 fans. I sold out stadium. No, we didn't. No, we didn't.

I made sure our stadium was sold out every time. Don't do me't. No, we didn't. I made sure our stadium was sold out every time. Don't do me like that. Even we were losing, I made sure our stadium was sold out because if you were paying a ticket to come see entertainment,

that's exactly what you're doing. But 21,000 people, like this is... 21,000. Camera? I ain't never... Hey, if y'all can see me, I love y'all.

Can y'all see me? They can see you. They can see me? Yeah. I love y'all. They see all you they can see me yeah i love y'all they see all 40 all for all 40 teeth you got showing what would they do what they do twin i love y'all and i thank y'all if you can see me hey call me if you need me my number's still the same 786-628-8520 that's how much that's how much i love y'all if y'all ever need anything man holler at me i'm here for

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to get out of a car because her date took her to the Cheesecake Factory. Oh, what's wrong with Cheesecake? She said, it's a chain. So is Mastro's. So is Del Frisco's. So is Del Frisco's. So is, what's the, what's that other one? Catch.

Catch LA. That's a chain. Wally's is a chain. Ruth Chris is a chain. Joe's Crab Shack is a chain. So let me ask you a question. Have you ever had a situation, what would you do? You drive up, you pull up, and she's would you do? Oh, this is Ocho.

You drive up, you pull up, and she's like, okay, hey, baby, we here. Or you meet. Because until I got to L.A., Ocho, I had never not gone. I don't know if I could use double negative. But I had always gone to the lady's home to pick her up or to her apartment or pick her up from her parents' house. I never, like, and when I got to L.A, they're like, okay, I'll just meet you. I was like, and now, you know, it's done. I'm okay. You don't, Hey,

they don't know me like that. So it's cool. But before I got to LA, I would always go pick the young lady up. So now you get to the state where you pick her up or you meet her there and she's, and she gets there and she's like, well, I ain't getting out. Cause this is beneath me yeah for one that that is a woman that is really not interested in you in general yeah for sure that's just a woman not interested in you in general and most of the time obviously it's the era that we're in right now men are are are being i don't want to say used for food, but if you have to go to these high-end restaurants on first dates to prove that you...

Everybody ain't got it like... Ocho, everybody ain't making seven figures. Everybody ain't got it like that to go drop two, three hundred dollars on a meal. Damn! It makes no sense. If you got to lead with money, if you have to lead with money,

if you have to lead with money, you already know what time you already know. You already know that it's ridiculous at this point. If I got first of all, I'm a firm believer in this. If I got to borrow my brother's car, if I got to borrow a homeboy car, if I got to borrow money to take somebody on a date, they not for me. They not for me because all I can do is this is a singular act because I'm not going to borrow money every time to take you somewhere. I'm not going to borrow my brother's or my homeboy's car to

take you somewhere. Man, Ocho, man, look at me. Ocho, I don't even want to tell you this story, Ocho. I don't even want to tell you this story, what happened to me, Ocho. You got to give it to me. Come on, man. Give it to me. Ocho, this was in 1990. I met this young lady and she's so and she's like she was gonna go we're gonna go out i was like okay no it's your mind you know i'm only

making 63.5 i got a 335 dollar uh four-door blazer payment i think my my rent at mill pond in denver i think it was about 550 plus you know i gotta take, you know, take care of my same money home for my grandmother, my sister. I'm helping my girlfriend who's going to school. I'm helping her. I'm paying for her to go to school. So I ain't got a whole lot of money. But you know what? I said, you know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to deny myself something to get her a nice little meal, you know, get a nice little meal. So we get there. And so, you know, I'm going to order something, but I'm not going to get what I would normally get, but I'm going to get something a little down just in case she goes up. So we get there, and so we get a little appetizer. I think back then

I was into Caesar salad. I had never really had Caesar salad, so I got me a little Caesar salad. I got to order Caesar. She got some, and so the server comes back, says, okay, I got to order the Caesar. She got something. And so the server comes back, says, you know, can you ready to order? I'm like, yeah. So I got, I think, I think I got something probably cost like $30, $40.

And so Ocho, she got the menu and she just looking. I'm like, well, damn, what's she going to order? I say, I say, you're going to go ahead. You're going to order something. She say, I'm trying to figure out what go with lobster. I say, condoms. I say, because if you order that, we gonna have sex tonight. Needless to say, she didn't order that, and I never saw her again.

I put that on everything, Ocho. See, Ocho, you get me on here, Ocho. I get on here with you, man. And you have me be telling stories, man. I was supposed to take this to my grave, man. He's talking about he tried to figure out what go with lobster. Condoms. Hey, what go with lobster again?

Condoms. Because we're having sex if you order that lobster. I ain't got bread like that, Ocho. I can see if I was making, if I came in, I'm a first round or second round draft pick. Because back then, a first round draft pick got like a million dollars signing bonus. Ocho, I came in, they gave me like $22,500. You got to make that stretch, man. When they take the taxes

out of it, that ain't a whole lot of money. Check this out, Ocho. When I got my signing bonus, I sent it to my brother. I ain't open a checking account. I sent it to my brother. He said, hey, when you get your money, I said, hey, I sent it to him. And so at this point in time, I got to go.

I got to get a car. And they said, man, you need an SUV. See, back then, I didn't know what an SUV was. You got a car or you had a truck. That's what it was. There wasn't no SUV. You got a car or you got a truck. So I'm like, I'm playing it off like I know what they're talking about. So I called him. That's what it was. There wasn't no SUV. You got a car or you got a truck. So I'm

like, I'm playing it off. Like I know what they're talking about. I say, so I called him. I say, Spank. That's what I called him. That's my brother. That's his nickname, Spanky. I say, Spank, man, they say I need an SUV. What's an SUV? He said, that's a sports utility vehicle. I said, what's that? He said, man, it's like a, it's like a Blazer. It's like a Bronco. I said, oh, oh, okay, okay. So I go to the Chevy dealer. Dealer should be saying, go tomorrow. Because what happened was a teammate of mine had made me late.

Right. I had never been late. You can't rely on that. You can't rely on him. Because he was trying to do something. And so, man, I called my brother. I was kind of like, man, man I'm a seventh round draft pick so you know

I ain't got no margin for ever Ocho yeah yeah so I called my brother I said man I said bro I think I messed up

he said what happened I said man you know I've been catching a ride to and from training camp and the guy you know

he was we were late and coach coach Reeves coach Reeves and coach, coach Reeves, coach Reeves, read me. Coach Reeves says, I told you, he says, don't cut yourself. Let me do that. Being late, not knowing your assignments is, is, is how you cut yourself. So he said, when you get back to Denver,

cause this was like, like the last, like the last couple of days before training camp, you know, training camp breaks. He said, as soon as you get back to Denver because this was like the last couple of days before training camp, you know training camp breaks, he said as soon as you get back, the moment you get free time, you take your butt and you go get you, you go and so I go, I try to get it, credit bad

credit, Ocho credit so low that the man said he needed a crane out back to pull my credit score up that's how low it was, Ocho. How low was your credit score back then? What you think? Just in the fives? Probably about four and a quarter.

God damn. Man, let me tell you what happened, man. Man, you know how Ocho, you know you in college, and they send you them little credit card applications. I had my 4GAS cards. I had Zelt, JCPenney, Sears and Roebuck. Man, I had my self-credit cards. Listen, listen.

My mama, man, bless her heart, man. Rest in peace. Man, I had a washing and drying in my name and I didn't even know it. I ain't find out. When I was a little Man, I had a washing and drying in my name and I ain't even know it. I ain't found out when I was a little baby. I had a washing and drying in my name. So, you know what, Ocho? I go to the league. I give all the

credit cards to my sister. Right. She done charged the credit cards on. Don't tell me and then cut them up. I say, cut them up. Ain't gonna do nothing. The people still want their money. Money, yeah. Man, that thing done gone. Man, my credit's so low. So, now, I said, you cut them up, they ain't going to do nothing. The people still want their money. Money, yeah. Man, that thing done gone, man, my credit's so low. So now, I'm in the

NFL, and I got to get a co-signer. Yeah, you got to fix that credit, man. That take long, too. Listen, that's a game. It's a game in itself. A game of discipline.

Yes. That's all it is. Yeah. But I worked my way up out of that thing. I worked my way out of that. But y'all, ladies out there, look, I understand that you want to be treated nice, but everybody ain't making bread like no professional athlete. Everybody ain't got no six or no seven-figure job.

Some of these dudes making $75,000. $75,000 to a dude, and after taxes, he can't be breaking bread on no $500 meal. And this is the funny thing. This is the funny thing. It's a tough situation because there will always be men willing. Women will always be able to get who and what they want, but it might not be from the guy they want because there will always be a man willing to spend the money based on what it is that women want

because there will always be a guy willing to do it. But he's trying to impress them, though, O there will always be a guy willing to do it. Yeah. But he's trying to impress them though, Ocho. Oh, and try to impress them. The more money you have, the easier it is to get to your end goal. That's just life. This is the way it is. But I tell dudes all the time, dudes, stay within your salary cap and act your wage.

Yeah. Stay within your salary cap and act your wage. What's for you will be there. And as your money continues to grow, it gets higher and higher. The caliber of women you want to choose, it gets higher as well. But the other rule of thumb is, Ocho. At the end of the day, it's all pink on the inside. It's all pink on the inside.

I hope you're talking about a steak. But anyway. Yeah, I was talking about a steak but anyway I'm talking about steak I'm right there with you so the thing is Ocho choose the woman that likes you not the woman you like if you choose the woman that likes you

you'll be straight that's a good one that's a good one if you gotta leave with money she don't like you yeah a good one. If you got to leave with money, she don't like you. Yeah. She don't like you. If you got to leave with money.

And if she say, if you got to apply pressure, she don't like you. Don't fall for that. Don't fall for that. And anytime, if you, if you tell me,

I don't need your money, I'll make my own money. I'm going another way. That's what I heard. I lied too many times to be true. Too many. Too many. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Don't do me like that. But this is a good thing for women, though. Women will never go without because they will always be a man willing. Always. Yeah. Always. Yeah.

Always. But like I said, I don't mind. But at the end of the day, like I said, I didn't have. And you know what, Ocho? If I was making money like I was my fourth or fifth year, if she wanted to get the life to hell, baby, get two. Take one home. Yeah. But I

didn't have no bread like that. At that point in time, my focus was, okay, pay my bills, help my grandmother, you know, my mom working, but I still got to break up. So, when I get back, and the cell phone. See, Ocho,

the cell phone was probably about $4 a minute. And if you left the city, it started roaming. Man, Ocho. Man, I had a cell phone bill $1,200 one time. Back then? Back then. Ah, damn.

My brother called me and said, turn it off. Turn it off. Because back then, Ocho, if you waited after, I think it was after 7 o'clock, the minutes were free. And then on weekend, minutes were free. But man, who the hell gonna wait until after 7 o'clock to talk

to somebody or wait until Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday? I want to talk when I wanted to talk. But I had to get up off that thing. Let's get back into the football. Lamar Jackson had a tremendous day. 21 of 27, 357, three passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown.

Lamar and his Raven fans had a lot to say to me today talking about I don't give him the praise. Ocho, can you tell the people that's watching, all 21,000, that the NFL is a week-to-week? Is that... Listen, I say it all the time. Lamar has been okay. And remember, I just

said it not long ago, Lamar was due for a big day. Yes. I just said that. Lamar is due for a big day. He had game for 220, 219, 230, but he was due for a day like today, and oh my goodness, did for a big day. He had game for, you know, 220, 219, 230. But he was due for a day like today. And, oh, my goodness, did he have a day. And it is week to week. It's just the funny thing about the NFL.

Not to get off topic, but look today. Damn Patriots upsetting the Bills. Who would have thought of that? Who would have thought of that? Or, I'm going to just stay in context what we talk about in Lamar. You get games like this, and you want to see him repeat the performance from today, next week, and it might not be the same. It's just the business, and I just can't explain why it goes like this. It's up and down, but when you can find that happy medium where you can be consistent offensively, whether it's running the ball, whether it's RPO,

whether it's play action consistently each weekend and week out, that is when you know, you're in a conversation for MVP, but after today's performance, he has to be in it. He has to be in there. But, but Ocho,

what I've noticed about the Ravens last week, when Lamar Jackson went one for six in the red zone, it was a team game. They go five or six today. It's Lamar. I criticize his inability to get the ball into the end zone in the red zone. I said, what about the turnovers today? He was the better in both.

I said, you guys want me to praise Lamar or any other player that you guys like, even when they don't play well, that's not how it works. It doesn't work. If you don't play well, i cannot in good conscience trot my ass up there sit in front of that tell him to sit in front of that camera and said oh man he played well when he didn't right i said but when i criticized peyton manning and brady

and rogers and big ben and drew breeze and romo and rivers Ryan, I say, ain't none of y'all rested at rescue. I say, y'all sit y'all cry freedom ass down. Cause I know what y'all trying to go with this. Y'all trying to say, Oh, he from the community. No, no, no, no. And I appreciate what Lamar does in his community. But at the end of the day, my job is to evaluate week to week play. If a guy plays well, Ocho, I'm going to say he plays well. And if I said I didn't think he was going to play well and he plays well,

I said I was wrong. Oh, boy, balled out. Give him his flowers. But, guys, I'm the wrong guy to listen to or to watch if you think I'm going to let bad play go unchecked. That's not going to happen. And you know what? There to let bad play go unchecked. That's not going to happen. And you know what? There was no bad play today.

No. And deserves his flowers. And what I really love about Lamar and his match racing at the quarterback position is the fact that I'm going back to where before he was drafted. Oh, you should try out for running back. Oh, you should try out and play receiver. The man won the Heisman Trophy as a quarterback. Exactly.

Somebody throwing the ball. Yeah. What I saw from Lamar today in being a pure pocket passer, dropping back, scanning through progressions, if it's not there, checking it down. If it is there, nine different Ravens receivers caught a ball today against the Lions. This ain't the same old Lions team. it is there nine different Ravens receivers quarter ball today against the Lions not just

any this ain't the same old Lions team this is the five and one Dan Campbell led Lions that's playing hell of a good football on both sides yes and they made him look like you know what I can't say it I can't man Lamar has been light side against NFC teams. He's 16-1 against NFC teams. So if you're an NFC team and the Ravens on your schedule and Lamar Jackson's playing, oh, y'all probably going to – there's a 90% chance y'all going to catch the L. I have a question. Yeah.

So it's safe to say the AFC North is the toughest division in football? Can I say that? Is it okay for me to say that or no? Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. It didn't start out that way because everybody was kind of like you know the bingos was was was treading water but you look at what cleveland did go go on the road and get a

win you look at the steelers and i was watching that game and so far it looked like a steelers home game they go out you come out here to so far and beat the rams the ravens do a demolition job uh uh uh on um on detroit one of the best teams, one of the better teams, their top five team in the league. I had them in my power rankings and then your bingles were on a bye week. But yeah, I think it's very safe to say, and just think had the Ravens taking care of business against the Steelers, how big of a lead, because they had already beaten Cleveland.

They had already beaten Cincinnati. So now you're 3-0 in division. Now somebody got – so when you beat a team in your division, that's like two games. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So Lamar, Ravens, congratulations. You guys played really well today.

Now if y'all can bottle that up and package that up, the way the defense got after Jared Goff and the way Lamar played and you ran the football with Edwards and Hill and Lamar look Lamar is going to sprinkle little runs here and there but in order to take that next step in order for the Ravens to get to where they want to get to Lamar is going to have to have and I'm not saying

you know 21 or 27 three this or that but he's going to have to become more efficient at throwing the football and taking care of the football. At the end of the day, the further you go along, Ocho, you start paying double for turnovers. Oh, yeah.

I mean, but if there's a measuring stick for Lamar and a measuring stick or a gauge on where you want to be in the realm of when it comes to passing, today was a perfect metric to measure 21 for 27 to 357? Yes. you want to be in the realm of when it comes to passing today was a perfect that's a perfect metric to measure 21 for 27 to for the what 357 yes i mean you're not gonna throw 357 every week but only six incompletions and that's that's almost unheard of oh joe you know what happens

once you win the mvp that's the standard in which you're critiqued by you are no longer a regular quarterback don't be talking about oh dac don't be talking about calum murray don't be talking about justin herbert don't be no no no you're an mvp how many other quarterbacks are currently playing that are mvp i can only think of one my homeboy yeah all the rest of roger what rogers is on our but he's the only one yeah uh uh tom brady's retired so basically it's rogers it's my homeboy and lamar jackson that can say that they've been mbps yeah so that's the standard in which lamar has to be judged by you can't say i'm a college i got five these advanced degrees and you want me to judge you like you're a senior in high school?

It doesn't work like that, Ocho. You're right. Bill Belichick joins Coach Don Shuler, Coach George Hallis in the 300-win club. Coach Belichick became just the third coach in NFL history to earn 300 regular season wins,

joining Papa Bear, Coach George Hallis, and the all-time win leader, Coach Don Shula. Before the season started, Coach Belichick signed a secret contract extension. What are your thoughts, Hocho?

I mean, listen. I mean, he's worthy of a contract extension, but normally when we think about contracts, especially when we think about contracts, especially when it comes to players, is it based on what you've done in the past or the based on what you're going to do in the future? That's what they tell us the future. Yeah. Well, obviously, you know, I think with Bill Belichick, it's kind of,

he gets a little, a little bit of a, what's the word I'm looking for? Grace. Yeah. It gets a little bit of grace. Obviously, what he's been able to do for that organization, for that city, for the Patriots in general. Where was Tom Brady's grace? Tom Brady got 20 years worth of grace, no? How many years did Coach Belichick get? He got 20 years worth of grace as well.

But obviously, the years that Belichick has put into this game, what you put into it is what you get out of it. get. He got 20 years worth of grace as well. The years that Belichick has put into this game, what you put into it is what you get out of it. I think he's well-deserving of a contract extension. Tom Brady wasn't deserving? Tom Brady wasn't deserving of a contract extension? Yeah, he got a bunch of them

throughout his 20-year tenure. No, no, no. Think about that. Hold on. Guys, no, no, no, no. He took less. He took less. Think about that. So, hold on. Guys, anybody that's listening to Ocho and I, you see, Tom Brady took less money, and at the end of the day, what did they do? Still showed him the door.

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's understand. Tom took less money because he understood in order for them to reach the common goal that they all had at the beginning was to be able to put the pieces around him defensively and offensively to get those six rings that he had. Coach Belichick took less money? That's why he took less money. But you notice it's always the billionaires.

So let me ask you a question. How many discounts do you think the NFL gave ESPN, Fox, CBS and NBC and Amazon to broadcast these games? Did they give them a discount? So you know what? CBS, you've been our loyal partner for over 60 years. Fox, you came on in 1994,

NBC. You've been our loyal, loyal partner. You too. Thank you for coming aboard, playing to me. So when, when every,

if you notice they never pass. So is it, is it, is it, is the tickets discounted? Is the, So if you notice, they never pass. So is the tickets discounted? Is the beer cheaper? No, it's different, though. It's different what we talk about. I mean, you talk about it. Those are two different totally dynamics altogether.

We talk about a team game, and we talk about entities, where the bottom line is strictly about the dollar. I'm Team Shannon. You're Team Ocho. You know, I got my team. I strictly about the dollar. I'm team Shannon. You team Ocho. You know, I got my team. I got my other feet. I got a little bird at their home. Right.

And I need to drop something in there. Right, right, right, right. If me give you a pay cut, I ain't going to be able to give them. You know what they're saying? You got to understand, Tom Brady's always been in a position with what he has going on outside of the game. Whatever he doesn't, let's say he does take a pay cut. Guess who was on his hip that makes up for whatever he's not making? Because, I mean, Tom is one of the few people in the world that was dealing with a woman that makes 10 times more than him.

So, okay, I'm taking a pay cut, but that's okay because I have this individual at home who makes 10 times more than I do, which is a very fortunate situation. Let me ask you a question. Guess who else happens to be in a situation like that right now as well? In NFL history, in the 100-year NFL history, how many men have dated a woman that made more than them? In the history of the NFL, I'm going back 100. So since 1919, they started playing football in the 1919,

the Acme Packers and the Can-Boo Dogs. This is different, though. This ain't just making more. This is making 10 times more than that. Okay. Again, let me rephrase. In the history, in the 105-year history. It never happened.

So you want everybody to take a pay cut like Tom? No, I didn't say that. I said he was able to and was comfortable taking one because of the situation the fortunate situation that he was in Ocho we got 24,000 people watching us live right now please make sure you hit that subscribe button where are y'all coming from

where y'all going they coming they come for the football and they stay for the stories that's what they come for they come for the football and they stay for the stories. Yeah. That's what they come for. They come for the football and they stay for the stories. Stay for the stories. The stories is where it's at.

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I'm talking from, from experience. A wise man learns from others' mistakes. A fool will learn from his own. Yeah. That you can learn. You can, you can say, okay, that's a lesson learned. Right. But what if I can say, what if I can shave you from having learned that lesson? And you just go ahead and go smooth through. Yeah, and the easy part

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What y'all did, baby? We was in Vegas. We went to the Usher concert on Friday night. Wait, I went Thursday night. I went with Real.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean. That thing lit. Yeah, he lit. The 45 minutes before the concert

is actually a concert. Right, right, right. Oh, man, the DJ had that thing so lit. So we went to Usher on Friday. And then Saturday night, we went to Adele. Adele got a residency, too? Yeah, she at Caesars at the Coliseum.

Baby. Ocho. Why didn't you take me to see Adele? Ocho. Man, how was Adele? Ocho. Man, how was Adele? Look here. She came out there with that black dress. Yeah. She introduced the piano player.

Yeah. Hello? Hey. It's me. What? What? What I love about her, she's unapologetically her.

She ain't got no heels on. She come out there with that black dress. She come out there with no shoes, stockings, and give you two hours of work. Hey, listen. Adele can sing, man. Adele can sing. I'm a fan of hers you know you know

you know what baby guess when i go back to vegas oh i'll definitely see her again i will definitely see her i got to go back to vegas wednesday i gotta be there for four days right i got i got to do some work out there i'm going to see baby can you can you get tickets to see Adele can you hear me okay okay appreciate that this is my second time seeing her I saw her first concert she hadn't performed in a while have you seen her twice when she first came back this was like during the pandemic

right after like 21 and she was at the observatory and so a lot of the big, a lot of the big people that I ain't going to name drop who was there. And I heard her. And just to hear, I can just imagine. Cause I'm old enough to remember prime Whitney. I'm old enough to remember prime Mariah.

I'm old enough. You know, I, I, I, and man, that woman's voice is man. God bless. Look, you bless look you just said Whitney

you ever seen Whitney live? I've never seen Whitney live I've never seen Whitney live I've never heard a voice let me tell you since we on the topic of singing let me tell you my top five when it comes to singing tell me if I know what i'm talking

about now i got whitney number one okay about pure range and take you here and take you there yeah yeah take you west yes we go north and we can go south that's whitney got mariah okay stay with me at home now christina aguera. I'm talking about range now. Stay with me. You got range now. Christina Aguilera. Kiki Wyatt. Okay. I'm taking you to church. Stay with me. I'm taking you to church. Jennifer Hudson. Okay. Fantasia.

Yeah. Okay. I tell you what, you're going to rearrange your list once you hear Adeo. And I'm going to tell you... She's in there somewhere. I've never seen her live. So everybody I just named, I've seen live rearrange your list once you hear Adele. She's in there somewhere. I've never seen her live. So everybody I just named, I've seen live and know what they can do because they coming to the party.

I've never seen her live. But Tina Marie, she's five. What you know about Tina Marie, man? Stop playing. I won't see. You got to realize when Tina Marie was at an apex, I was like, oh man. what you know about tina marie man stop playing i won't see you got to realize when tina marie was at an apex i was like oh man but you got to hear adele yeah me telling you sometimes me

telling a story doesn't do it justice no you got to hear this woman sing and man when she walked and look here when she walked to the edge of that stage and she set her ass on those steps and she picked that mic up. She hit a note last night. She said, uh-uh, uh-uh. She stopped it. She's like, I'm out of breath. And she called for it back. Right.

Crazy, huh? Listen, I'm going to tell you the church real quick. Are you in the gospel? Yeah You ever heard Leandria Johnson Leandria Johnson Or LaShawn Pace sing? Mm-mm

Oh man See I grew up When you say church I grew up with Shirley Caesar Oh I'm Shirley Caesar, Dottie Peebles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, come on, that Dorothy Norwood. Listen, well, we can go to church in here.

Don't do me like that. But singers that I've heard and I haven't seen them, Whitney, Mariah, Aretha, Adele, Tina Marie. Man, they different. Oh, they, you know, man, and it's different. Oh, oh. They different. Patty Mills. Oh, no, Stephanie Mills.

Stephanie. Stephanie Mills. Stephanie. Stephanie. Stephanie, go. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one.

Stephanie, go. You know what? I can't. But you know what? I don't want to shortchange. I can't leave Miss Patty out. Oh, yeah, Pat LaBelle. I can't leave Miss Patty out. You know who I can't leave Miss Patty out. Oh, yeah, Pat LaBelle. You know who I can't leave out?

And she gets labeled more of an entertainer than a singer? Yeah. Beyonce got chords. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, Beyonce is what I call one of the few... She a unicorn.

The whole package and is a unicorn. Yes. That is the closest to me, no doubt to any other entertainers, that we're going to get to Michael Jackson. Am I wrong? Am I wrong, Dad? Am I wrong? Hey, did you see that?

Did you see that? Who you saw Thursday night? Usher. Usher got skills. Oh, yeah. Usher got skills, man. Usher, Chris Brown, Beyonce. Wait a minute.

I got one more for you. Who that? You ever seen Bruno Mars? Yes! Man, Bruno. My Bruno. Bruno like that. You talking about stage presence?

Yeah. I think it's half the battle. Forget knowing how to sing. Forget knowing how to sing. Stage presence. Being able to engage with the fans and become one with them, that's a gift. That's a gift, and that's something Bruno Mars has. I need that.

I was very fortunate. Jonte Austin, who's Usher's right-hand man, took care of my daughter. He took care of me and my daughter. They had a friends and family lounge so afterwards you know uh jessica alba rizza naz everybody a lot of the dancers uh the performance that's on stage with usher had started to come in so i got an opportunity to talk to them but man yeah i might have to go see usher again yeah hey listen because it's been a while performance was phenomenal. The music, some of the stuff I hadn't heard

in so many years. Oh, yeah. The band, the pianist, the dancers. Oh, yeah. The stripper. Everything, like, my eyes are all over the place. Then the skating segment. Oh, the skating, that's unbelievable. Oh, them girls were doing it.

Hey, the one with the long legs with the short red cropped hair? I met her. Me and Kayla met her. She came in loud. What about the one... I don't want to get into trouble. Don't worry about it. I know exactly what you're talking about. I let that go.

But listen, Usher, phenomenal. For those that are watching, if you haven't had a chance to see Usher, you got to go see that. Listen, I'm looking forward to going to see... Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa,, Usher, phenomenal. If people, for those that are watching, if you haven't had a chance to see Usher, you gotta go see that. Listen, I'm looking forward to going to see, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. How much them Adele tickets cost? I don't even know. I don't even know. It ain't, for me,

like I said, but see, here's the thing. Somebody in the chat, please tell me how much the Adele tickets cost. It all depends on where you want to see it. I want to, I got to put my baby in the front. Okay, then. You gonna look, you gonna pay some, you gonna pay, cards. It all depends on where you want to sit. I want to, I got to put my baby in the front. Okay, then. You going to look, you going to pay some, you going to pay, hey. You got to pay what?

Some bands. You going to have to pay some fam, you, the marching bands. Nah, nah, nah. We ain't going to do that. If anybody ain't have, I got, you know, I'm going to call Rich Paul. Don't worry about it. I'm going to call Rich. Don't worry about it.

Nah, you know what, Ocho? I used to do that. But, you know but you know, that man, look here. That woman is in business. It's like, that would be like you. You got a clothing line, and everybody hits you up and say, Ocho, hey, can I get this for free, my homeboy? It ain't, I mean, it's not really everybody. It's not really, you know what, okay.

Baby, hello? Ocho. Ain't that much tired in the world, man. Ocho. Even with LeBron. Right. I don't, I pay for it. If I get shoes, I pay for them. If I get a jersey, I pay for it.

Now, he did gift me a jersey and he autographed it for me. But most of the stuff, all the stuff that I get, I pay for it. So you just, I mean, I pay for stuff too. I pay taxes it. So you just, I mean, I pay for stuff too. I pay taxes. No. Because the way I look at it, if I'm going to take my ass and buy LV and Dior and all that other stuff.

I don't do that. See, that's the difference. I'm going to do it. I'm always looking for the deal. I'm always looking for the loophole I'm trying to save. So if I can find a loophole or a way I can actually get in there to have my baby see Adele. Actually, I want to see Adele anyway because I love music.

I love singing. Actually, she signed a card for my daughter. Wish my daughter happy birthday. Yep, gave her some swag. She signed a book for me. Hold on. You can tell me, man. Just tell me how much the thing a book for me. Hold on, hold on. You can tell me, man. Just tell me how much the niggas are, man.

Come on, man. I don't know because my assistant handled it. Okay. You know you ain't let her charge your car without telling you? Yes, I do. Yeah. Yeah, see, you got that fucking money. So anytime you just go ahead and charge it,

they ain't got it run it by you. But here's the thing. Ocho, the thing with me is that my team, they know I don't really spend money like that. So when they say I don't spend money on anything. I spend money on taking care of everybody else. I don't really do anything for me.

Oh. I do stuff for everybody else. So I was like... I saw you flying private eating Popeyes. What's that? Yeah. No, I ain't had no Popeyes. I can't remember the else. I saw you flying private eating Popeye's. What's that? I can't remember the last time I had Popeye's. I can't even tell you where Popeye's is around here. Where I'm staying, there ain't no Popeye's around here. Whatever you was eating, I saw you on a private jet.

Yeah, that's what I do. For what it cost, they should have stopped by Mastro's. For what it cost. But no, I think the thing is for me at this juncture of my life that I'm going to spend like Adele or Usher

or somebody that I want to see. And that's my thing. I've always liked to go there. I mean, when I was in Atlanta, there was this place called Chastain. And it's where you can eat. And it's like they're performing. And you can eat, drink, you can get a it's like, you know, the, the, uh, they're, they're, they're performing and you can eat, you know, drink, you can get a table. And I would, you know, me and my friends, we would go.

And man, you know, you see earth, wind and fire, you see a seal or you see, uh, uh, you know, in the IRE or you see Jill Scott or you see some of the, and you're like, okay, that this, this is what I like. This is what I, this is what I like to do. You know what, when I, when I think about it too, I'm, I'm in, I'm into musicals, I'm into Broadway, I'm into is what I like to do you know what when I think about it too I'm into musicals I'm into Broadway

I'm into dance I'm into theater I'm into the arts a lot of people wouldn't know that about me and one of my favorite things to do where I will spend money

regardless of price regardless of where they're playing is please tell me please tell me you know about Alvin Ailey Alvin Ailey Dance Theater yeah the dance studio

yeah yeah black yeah black Renown yeah Judah Jameson and my guy Robert Battle I'm sure this will about Alvin Ailey, Alvin Ailey Dance Theater. Oh yeah, the dance studio, yeah. Yeah, black, yeah, black, renowned, yeah. Judah Jameson and my guy, Robert Battle. I'm sure this will probably get back to them. I can't wait until you guys get back on tour so I can some, you gotta see Revelations, Unc.

Unc, you gotta see Revelations. And a dream of mine, a dream of mine is to dance Revelations and to have one of the solos and maybe in Wade in the Water or Rock of of my soul. I just, I want to dance. I love, you know, I did ballet. I did ballet when I was doing, doing football in the off season, during football season to, to help me with balance and something about ballet I'll go see. I mean, your feet already are in a PLA. So you straight.

Yeah. Yeah. Uh, let me see dance. You know what else I pay for that? That me and the missA, so you straight. Yeah, yeah. Let me see. Dance. You know what else I pay for? Me and the missus, we never miss until the pandemic hit. Andrea Bocelli. Bocelli? Yeah. Oh, okay. Every time.

Every time, Mother's Day weekend. You like opera, huh? Man, listen. Never miss it. Never miss it. And people always see me at places like that and be like, man, what the hell are you doing here? I mean, this is what I really like. People just don't know that side of me.

Yeah, I'm a concert guy. I like I like concerts. I've never been a concert guy. Kanye. I mean, I've been to Kanye West. One of his concerts, because I like you don't know what to expect as far as from our perspective. And and that's the thing with Adele, the visual, the visual with Adele. What's the one with the spaceship? He had the concert with the spaceship.

It looked like a crazy spaceship. I remember exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. Oh, that was crazy. But then the light just, just, dude, that's, that's one of the best. And, um, outside of that, that Usher concert, that was my first time being at another one. Yeah. I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it.

The first concert my daughter ever went to was Usher. So here we are almost two decades later. Right. She goes to Usher again. And so that was like, okay. And to go, that was my first time taking her to a concert, her and I. And you know what I noticed?

I mean, you know, I get frustrated sometimes, but the community, they love us all. They love us, Ocho. The way, the way, the applause that I got and people want to take pictures and the people want to shake my hand. Man, the love that I got at the Usher concert. Right. The love that I get in the airports, the love that I get when I'm around my people, it's never, if I'd have won 50 Super Bowls,

I wouldn't get the kind of love that I get right now. I mean, it is unbelievable. So you know what? And I remember my daughter was like, Daddy, she's like, your life is never going was like, daddy, is, is she like, your life is never going to be the same as I like. Nah, baby. Our life has changed. She's like, she's like, daddy, these people really love you. I said, they do, baby. I said, they do.

I said, and I said, from that point on, I've said, you know what? That little criticism when guys take their pot shots and they say all this stuff, I say y'all two or three can't take away from the masters that show me love when they see me in person and the love and the respect and the admiration that they show me so what y'all talking about that bull jive y'all on yeah i'm done with it i ain't arguing i ain't arguing none of you i feel you but i want to protect you on you know you're getting older you know you got you know your knees you know your hips bad i don't want one of these you. I feel you. But I want to protect you. You know, you're getting older. You know, you got, you know, your knees, you know, your hips bad.

I don't want one of these young boys to see you in person. They jump on you and I'm not there to save you. So I tell you what, I tell you what, how about this? I tell you what. I can't let one of the young boys jump on you now. You don't have to be strong, man. Let me tell you like this here. I can't stop somebody from jumping on me.

Yes, sir. But if I can't get him up off me, leave him there. I bet I get him up off me, leave him there. I bet I get him up off me. I bet I make him turn. Hey, Ocho, I had a dude. I ain't going to tell you. Ocho, dude, talk about bad. I'm looking at you.

Man, you ain't that big. I ought to grab you. I said, I bet I make you turn me loose. I bet you that. The grabbing the easy part. It's the holding that's the hard. Hey, hey, don't let the young fella get a hold of you now. I'm trying to, I'm just, I'm just making sure.

I'm just, I'm just, I just want to make sure you good now. Man, look here. The love and the respect that I saw from that Usher concert. And man, look here, man. Like I said, I don't really get out like that, Ocho. I don't really get out. I don't get out like that. The love, you've always been there.

The love, you've always been there. It's always been there. Well, I think over the last year, seeing me in this space and hearing me talk about certain issues and to hear, in our community, unk is a term of endearment. It's someone that has knowledge. It's someone that's constantly trying to elevate only someone my age, but the younger generation. So I appreciate that because when I grew up, the community police, if they saw you doing something wrong, it's like, hey, now I ain't going to tell you. I ain't going to tell Miss Mary, but you know, you're not supposed to do that. Right.

I'm not going to tell Mr. Barney. It was like it if you it was like yes ma'am no ma'am it was always anybody if you was doing wrong and it was it was like it was a sign of respect yes ma'am hey hey boy uh you you you uh are you barney and mary grandson yes ma'am. Uh-huh. Okay. Now, you know they wouldn't like that. Yes, ma'am. I ain't gonna say nothing. But now, don't tell my kid this or don't talk to my kid like that. That's your problem. Yeah.

My grandma used to always say, boy, hey, if you don't want to listen, they got places that'll make you listen. They'll tell you what time to get up, when to get up, what to eat, where to eat, and when to do what, everything else. Now, you can listen to me on the outside or you can listen to them on the inside.

But you're going to listen. You're going to listen. But people, I know you guys that are watching this, man, I really appreciate the love that you guys show me out of respect. Oh, let me tell you what happened, Ocho. I got to tell this story. We got to go because I got to get to get to bed i gotta go to work in the morning man oh cho so we was in that little friend and family room and so you know i kind of got i'm like to the side my daughter's

standing in front of me like right there and i'm kind of like to the side i'm kind of like talking i'm talking to naz and so you know he's talking like hey man i appreciate what you do man you're real yada yada yada and this guy see this guy at the peripheral come up to talk to my daughter. You know, hey, it used to be a thing. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? Hey, my daughter, she grown. She grown. She can handle herself. And she said, and it's not what she said, it's how she said it. Yeah.

She said, that's my daddy. It was like, she said it away. leave me alone i told y'all wasn't interested yeah yeah so now you know me i will i will i will around yeah what i said what's up my man oh yeah how you doing you know yada yada yada but he could tell from my look. Right. This ain't that. Nah. Yeah. Nah. Look, like, if probably,

I don't, look, I said, my kids, my girls are very, they're not going to talk to no guy in front of me.

Okay. Okay. Okay. She already said that. That's a side. I was like, babe, you grown.

She said, nah. She viewed that as disrespectful for a guy to try to talk to her in front of her dad. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. So, I didn't, you know, nah, she viewed that as disrespectful for a guy to try to talk to her in front of her dad. Right, right, right, right, right. So I didn't, you know, hey, I don't, because you best believe I'm going to try to talk to this. You looking right, you best believe I'm going to try to do your dad, your mom.

You know, I'm going to be respectful with it. Right. But, but, you know, but we had a great time. I thought you were going to put hands on your arm. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah going to put hands on your arm nah nah nah nah nah nah because nah hell nah like I said you know it was just like she wanted

she didn't because of where we were she didn't know who he was and so she wanted to be respectful also knowing because everybody that meet her said you look just the first thing they say they don't say well how you doing they say you look just like your daddy. So, and so she wanted

to be respectful with it, knowing that okay, that's Shannon Sharp's daughter. So, but, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. The kids, I don't play like that. I play about a lot of things, but not them. I don't blame you.

I don't blame you. I don't blame you. That topic, man, that topic again, that topic we talked about earlier, that young lady that didn't want to go to that chain restaurant, I don't know why that's still sitting heavy on my heart. Yeah.

But what did she think? I guess she thought videoing Ocho, she was going to get people on her side to be like, yeah, sister, make that man take you to this high-end restaurant. That's all that. If that's all I got. So, in other words, you're telling me if I'm not worthy of you like this. Because one day, one day, I told everybody when I was growing up, I said, one day, I said, I'm going to come back in a white Mercedes.

And I'm going to say, see, y'all didn't want old Shady. Y'all didn't want the guy that had the part in his hair. Y'all didn't want the guy that didn't hang out. Y'all didn't want the guy that didn't smoke weed, that all he cared about was playing sports. Y'all didn't want him then. Oh, but they're going to come a time. You're going to wish you had.

Listen, there are men out here that have set a precedent when it comes to courting, when it comes to taking women on nice, fancy dates. And once they set their precedent, then everyone else follows as far as women and wanting that same. That same. Oh, Joe. Everybody can't move like that. And, you know, you you know you know what happens all the that are in position to do the fancy dates and the five-star stuff and putting you in the nice stuff and they all dating the same women because all that it's so many it's only so many

of those type of guys to choose from they getting the pick of the litter because everybody chasing the same goddamn thing because most of the time if you look at most of the athletes because everybody chasing the same goddamn thing. Because most of the time, if you look at most of the athletes, they like the same type of woman. And it's the same type of woman that's attracted to an athlete. So it is what it is. Everybody dating everybody. Everybody dating everybody. But I don't expect,

I don't expect because one woman did this, I automatically expect everybody to do that. No, you, you, you, you, you and your individual self. Be your best you. I'm not asking you to replace what I had.

I'm asking you to be you. So I, because I hope you don't ask me to be what you, what you once had. Oh, my, my, my guy used to do this. So why not? Why are you not still with him? If he did so much, he took you all these exotic places.

Y'all was in Bali. Y'all was in Mykonos. And y'all was in Turks and Caicos. And you was on jet skis and you was boat riding. So why are you with me right now on this date? Okay. Okay.

Listen. Listen, boy, it's thin out there right now, too, but it's thin out there, but sometimes some women, they leaving good men thinking they going to be... Social media did that to us, Ocho.

Social media did that to us. It did it to us. It did it to us. We look at that like, oh, I bet I got, man, man, you know what I got? Man, I got this BMW. And you go out there trying to get a Bugatti. And little do you know that Bugatti, you got to put like $5,000 with the gas every time you fill it up. The tires cost $22,000.

The maintenance on it every time you pop the hood is another $10,000. You know what? It's rough. I think when you see what you got to compete with, it's rough. I can't compete with them. But here's the thing, Ocho. Everybody aiming for the same thing. But here's the thing about L.A.

You might be competing with a rapper, an NBA player, an MLB player, a producer. You don't know what you're up. At least when I was growing up, I knew what I was competing against. Another athlete. Right. A regular guy wasn't going to be able to beat my time

because I had laid down a blister in time. You know what the old people used to say? Old backgrubbers used to say all the time. Yeah, somebody came in and beat his time. I said, Granny, can't nobody beat your baby time because your baby laid down a blister in time. Now you out here, you don't know what you up against.

Because everybody, look here, they drive Range Rovers out here like Fords. So, Durant, you talk about old bag, I got the baddest whip. Bruh, I guarantee you, you're going to see four of them before you park your car. Whatever car you got, you're about to see four of them before you park your car. Yeah. Whatever car you got, you're about to see 10 of them.

So you don't know what you're up against. And it's that guy that you think, man, who is that? He got major paper. Or he pretending, and she don't know he pretending. But it look good. All you got to do is look the part. That's half the battle. Oh, yeah.

Look like you got it. That's it. That's it. That's half the battle, Oh, yeah. Look like you got it. That's it. That's it. That's half the battle, man. But listen, I love my people. I just, we got to stay within our financial lane. That's all you got to do. That's all I can do.

Stay in your financial lane. Understand where you at and act your wage. Act your wage. W-A-G-E. You'll be fine. Hey, I still, I still,

I still spend like I'm on that $335 an hour. When I was growing up with minimum wage with $335 or $337 an hour. Hey, what's minimum wage now?

Did it go up yet? I think $725. Man, shit. And we got, we got to, man, listen,

that's why I need to be in office. They need somebody like me in office. They need somebody like me in office they need somebody like me in office because minimum wage wouldn't be like they wouldn't be like this no oh oh i got another i know oh joe check this out this lady this lady got an uber and the lady wouldn't give her her stuff because she wouldn't give her a tip you see what you started no whoa whoa the lady went and got $400 worth of groceries. If somebody bring me $400 worth of any goddamn thing, they getting the goddamn tip.

You know that now. Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho. Hold on, hold on. Ocho, you Uber. Yeah. Okay. You Uber, right? Right, right. Okay. Now, I'm not'm not obligated to seek because here's the thing

you can't remember now you gotta look through it through your look through it through the person lens not your lens now me when i leave the hotel the people that's coming to clean my room i leave money on the table i said hey whoever cleans the room that money on the dress that money on the table that's yours i said even that money the room, that money on the dresser, that money on the table, that's yours. I said, that money's yours. Okay, I need you to do this for me. I need you to leave me some extra towels. I leave money for them.

I leave in the morning. I leave money for them. That's me. That's the kindness of my heart. If, hey, excuse me, ma'am, can you get me some ice? Sure. They go get the ice.

I give them, you know, give them 30, 40 bucks. It's like, thank you, thank you. Now I know my room, when I get back, my room gonna be spotless. I'm gonna have extra towel. Bed gonna be nice and neat. I'm gonna have them two chocolates. Even though I don't eat them,

they're gonna be at the side of the bed. They're gonna need me some water. Okay. I don't like feeling obligated. Right. Doing anything, Ocho. I'm gonna do it out of the kindness of my heart. I don't like feeling obligated. That's not feeling obligated doing anything, Ocho. I'm going to do it out of the kindness of my heart. I don't like feeling obligated. That's not feeling obligated.

If you know you have someone bringing you $400 worth of groceries, come on now. It's about being decent. Hold on. So how much is Uber? How much is Uber? They pay for Uber, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But still, come on now. I got a tip for you.

Don't eat egg salad and ride the bus. That's the tip I got for you. You got to do right by people, man. I do right by people. You just saying. Everybody can't tip like that, Ocho. You just give something, not giving nothing at all. Come on, man.

You don't know what that lady had to go through. You don't know what I had to go through to get these groceries. I might have had that colored money. You know what that colored money is, right? Yeah. Okay, then. So you got somebody to bring you $400 worth of groceries and you ain't tipping none?

I'm talking about you. Oh, no. Let me tell you what I did. There was an ice storm back in 96. And I couldn't get out of the driveway. So I called a guy and I said, you know, wait for me. He's like, no. I said, I tell you what. I said, you got to take my word for it.

See if you will take my word for it. I said, wait here till I get back. Let me go in this store. And when I come back, it'll be worth your wait he was waiting right there he was right down the street probably took we've probably gone 10 minutes I gave him $500 hmm

that's what I'm talking about I have a situation I was in when I was working at CBS yeah I left my backpack with all my watches all my with all my watches, all my money, all my cufflinks, and the cab.

So, my assistant, my assistant's calling, blah, blah, blah. And the last person I had called was my homeboy, Bucket. So the guy went in my bag and saw the phone

and he called Bucket. Bucket said, man, who this? Why you calling me from my homeboy phone? And he was trying to explain to him in his broken English that I had left the phone in there. But he ended up, man, I gave that man like $3,500. I gave

all the cash that I had. All the cash that I had. There are good people. Yeah, for sure. And that is why, you know, that's why when a lot of people ask me over the past 10 15 years everywhere i go you already know how i tip like i've been doing that for years everywhere i go obviously because you know how the service industry is and yeah just any industry for that matter that doesn't make a livable wage i take pride in that and i just got a call i'm quick little story it is not much but there's

a restaurant that I frequent. I only go to five places over and over in Miami. Five same restaurants. But Brimstone, you know about Brimstone, right? You heard of Brimstone? I have. No, so Brimstone, nice little restaurant in Pembroke Gardens, right in Pines

that I always frequent. I like, you know, I like to go to dinner there. And I love going there because they allowed me to smoke my cigar. They allowed me to smoke my cigar. They allowed me to smoke my cigar. And I get my little cafe con leche and I get my same meal every single time. And they took away smoking cigars. They took away smoking cigars for about maybe, what, maybe three, four months. And I hadn't been back since. I hadn't been back since. And then one of the

waitresses, one of the waiters there texted me through DM and said, man, listen, you won't believe start next week. You can finally come back and you can smoke your cigar and do it. I damn that cry. I damn that cry. It's not the fact that I can smoke my cigar. It's the fact that I haven't been able to go to that place for four to three goddamn months. And I know goddamn well, nobody that's been coming to that restaurant is leaving those blessings the way I was. And that felt bad for me because I just couldn't go there without having my cigar.

So the fact that now I can go back to Brimstone and enjoy a cigar, I can get back to tipping those people the way they should be tipped. Well, I like, I probably go to the same thing

and when I get to wait and it's like, and I say the usual, I say, okay, Mr. Sharp. Yeah. I don't even got to say nothing. That's what I loved and enjoyed about going there. When they took that smoking away man on the patio, that hurt me.

That hurt me bad. That hurt me bad. Guys, again, thank you for watching. We got over 24,000. Thanks for tuning in. It's 24,000 in here? Yeah, we have 24,000 in here. Make sure you click that subscribe button.

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down. But anyway, I'm up. He's Ocho. This is Nightcap. Thanks for tuning in. We really appreciate you guys. Where are you leaving? I got to go to work in the morning. But you got 24,000 people. Why would you leave them hanging? Because I got to go to work and they got to go to work too.

They ain't got to go to work. Listen, if you got 24,000 people watching this right now and they are willing to stay up and they got to go to work, why would you leave them? Well, you can go. I'm going to stay home. Okay, you do that. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I'm signing off. This has been Nightcap. I'm your favorite

uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85. Y'all stay with me. Y'all stay with me. We finna talk. I'm getting about another 30 minutes. He's your favorite, number 85. Y'all stay with me. Y'all stay with me. We finna talk. We finna talk, but I'm getting about another 30 minutes. He's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. Thank you for watching. Y'all can go out. Hey, y'all. The people still there or they gone?

Hello? Hey! What y'all want to talk about? It's just me, solo show. What y'all want to talk about? Huh? I can't read the chat because I'm not sleeping. I ain't got to go to work tomorrow. I ain't got no job. First topic. First topic we see, we talking about it. Let me know.

I ain't got nowhere to be. I ain't got nowhere to go. Because he was supposed to give me a first take. And so I ain't got no job. Baby. Baby. Baby. Baby, come here, yeah,

would I rank myself as the best receiver of all time, I mean, honestly, I mean, if I'm being serious, like, all jokes aside, I probably, I'm probably like number 13. Number 13? All-time? Yeah. All-time? Yeah, probably 13. I got to be somewhere in the conversation, somewhere around 13. Anything below 15, somebody lying.

Somebody lying? My top five? Oh, all-time? Can we do me a favor? For my top five all-time, do me a favor for my top five all time? Do me a favor. I'm taking Jerry Rice. I'm taking Jerry Rice and Cheetah and I'm putting them in a category of their own. I'm, I'm, and I'm going for my top five. So one A and one B, Randy Moss, T.O., T.O., Randy Moss, however you want to do it.

It doesn't matter. However you want to do it. It doesn't matter. Either way it's interchangeable, right? Then after that, we have Calvin Johnson. Marvin Harrison. Jimmy Smith. Golly, it's like it can go so many ways. And I don't want to leave out any name because I don't have everybody's name in front of me. I'm just going off the top of the head and what's here and what I have right now. But there's so many great ones. There's so many great ones that are deserving of being in the top five. It's just the fact that it's so hard.

And it's also based on preference. And I'm not one that bases everything off of numbers because sometimes numbers don't tell the whole story based on circumstance and the situation that players were in. But I have so many good ones. But OK, next. Oh, we got to wrap. OK, I'm out of here. I'm done. I'm done.

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