Nightcap - Nightcap - Mahomes & Purdy Lose, Bengals Are Back

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson have a passionate debate over whether Russell Wilson deserves credit for the Broncos upset win over Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. Then they get honest about Brock Purdy, get excited about Cowboys-Eagles next week, and test Chad's vocal cords after Flavor Flav’s odd national anthem performance causes Chad to make a bold claim about his own singing abilities.  #Volume #Herd #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Congratulations to the Chargers. We're going to get right into it, Ocho. Congratulations to the Chargers. They beat the Bears 30-13. And because that game was not very, very interesting, let's go ahead and get into it because we have a lot of games that we got to get into tonight. Yeah.

The Kansas City Chiefs go on the road, lose to the Denver Broncos 24 to nine. What was one of your takeaways, a couple of your takeaways from this game, Ocho? Well, first off, I would like to give a shout out to Russell Wilson. I think you should give Russell Wilson his credit as well. I'm waiting to say it. Russell Wilson did a good job. Russell Wilson beat the Kansas City Chiefs. Can you say that for me real quick? No, I want to make sure.

So I'll let you go. So I'm going to make sure I'm hearing you correctly. Yes, sir. The Denver Broncos defense ranked 31st in points allowed, 32nd in yards allowed. They took the ball away five times. Patrick Mahomes had never lost to an AFC road opponent yeah he had a 16 game winning streak

he scored nine points a team led by Patrick Mahomes scored nine points and your takeaway a guy that completed 12 passes that was your takeaway Russell Wilson can I ask you a question?

no no no I'm just asking I gave you the floor Ocho I gave you an opportunity so now, no, no. I'm just asking. I gave you the floor, Ocho. I gave you an opportunity. So now, go back. Go ahead. Listen to me. When a team loses and when a team wins,

when a team loses, it's the quarterback's fault. And the quarterback gets most of the blame. So what you want to do is you want to run off everything that the defense did and what Patrick Mahomes didn't do and not give Russell Wilson his credit. I'm asking you, so your takeaway, a team that – a defense that's 31st in points, 32nd in yards, took the ball away five times, a team – now, mind you now, a Patrick Mahomes team,

the last time that he did not throw a touchdown in the game was almost two years ago. And so your takeaway was Russell Wilson. I got it completed 12 passes. That's all I'm asking. Did they win the game? Yes. But your take. So in other words.

Are you saying. Oh, wait, wait. OK, OK. So you. So what you're telling me right now. Right. So what you're saying is the points that the Denver Broncos scored offensively, are you taking that away from Russell Wilson?

I'm not taking – Ocho. The pass – Ocho. Jerry, Judy, Scrooge. Ocho. I'm asking. See, you're not listening to what I'm saying. So you're saying your biggest takeaway from the game was Russell Wilson.

Yeah, Russell – No, no, no, no. Ain't no Russell Wilson. I asked. I said, Ocho, what was your biggest takeaway from this game? Give me your one or two takeaways. And you said Russell Wilson. Yeah, Russell. give up today nine so let me ask you a question yeah who's the best quarterback in nfl patrick mahomes and they patrick mahomes had never lost a road game to an afc west opponent yes he had won 16 straight against the broncos and your takeaway from this game was a guy that completed 12 passes exactly i'm giving them credit because they won the game.

Because we've been killing, not me, the media has been killing Russell Wilson for them not playing well. Him and Sean Payton not gelling well offensively. You do realize that Russell Wilson took six sacks. Wait. Wait. Who took six sacks? Russell. Oh, so we blaming Russell Wilson for

getting sacked. Ocho, I don't think you understand when your takeaway, if they had gotten to a shootout, they had won the game 43-30, and Russell out-dueled Patrick Mahomes. I'm not saying you don't give, but your takeaway from what that defense that took the ball away from Patrick Mahomes, kept him out of the end zone for the first time in a touchdown pass for almost two years, and your

takeaway is what? Because the Yeah. Yes. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with that? It sounds like to me you're doing everything to discredit Russell Wilson. Ocho, I'm not discrediting. Stay with me. Ocho, I'm not

discrediting, but nobody that watched that game left that game saying that Russell Wilson is back to being Russell Wilson that Russell Wilson was the reason why they won the game nobody's doing that but you I get it if you want to give Russ credit if you want to cape up for these players because you're an advocate for the players I got no problem with that but if you left this game with a defense that was dead last, or next to last, in points and yards allowed, and they kept Patrick Mahomes out of the end zone,

and they took the ball away from him five times, if you took, if you left this game saying, Russell Wilson is great. Can I ask you, can I ask you a question? Sure you can. They took the ball away from him five times. How many of those turnovers equated to offensive touchdowns by the offense for the Broncos? How many of those turnovers equated to offensive touchdowns

by the offense for the Broncos? How many of those turnovers? Yes. Remember the... How many of those turnovers? Who accounted when the defense took the ball away five times? How many times in no turnover

did the offense score? The offense scored 24 points. Off the five turnovers, right? Hold on. How many points did they score off those turnovers? Russell had three touchdown passes, 114 yards. So out of the five turnovers, three of those equated to 21 points because of who?

Well, I think the opening drive, I think when they got the ball, I think they stopped Kansas City and they went down and scored. So I know at least, I'm going to say at least let's say 17. Let's say 17 of the 24 points they scored came up came up a turnover. Okay, 17 and 24 points. So the defense got five turnovers. Yes. Russell Wilson accounted for 17

points of the five turnovers. Yes. Who won the game again? The Broncos won. Who? Ocho. You're not going to discredit Russell Wilson on what he was able to do today. Don't do Who? Ocho. You're not going to discredit Russell Wilson or what he was able to do today. Ocho. Don't do that.

Ocho. Ocho. We're not – In this moment, we're on here to critique and analyze. We're not fans. We're critiquing. Okay. Let's critique and analyze.

Okay. Let's critique and analyze. The Broncos defense had a hell of a game. They did something. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not what you led with. The Broncos defense had a hell of a game. They did something. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not what you led with. Broncos defense had a hell of a game.

Okay. But let's say, let's say, We can't say let's say. We got to deal with what we got. Let's deal with what we got. Out of the five turnovers, what happens if

Russell Wilson doesn't capitalize and doesn't get those 17 points? Okay, since we're doing hypothetical, what happens if Patrick Mahomes doesn't turn the ball over five times? Since we're doing hypotheticals. You know what? You know what? No, no, no.

You're not going to give Russell Wilson this credit. But he's going to get it tonight. Ocho, in this moment, I ask you your big takeaways. It's not about credit. I said, listen, your biggest takeaway was the fact that the Broncos defense took the ball away, had five turnovers, and did something. So I'm just going to make sure I'm hearing you correctly because I want to pin you down on this one.

So you're saying Russell Wilson was more impressive than the Broncos defense? No, the Broncos defense was very impressive. It was very impressive, especially – listen, let me say – So why did you leave with Russ? Stay with me because I want to leave with the quarterback that everybody's been crushing. I want to leave with Russ. That's why.

Ocho, we're not fans. You're paid to analyze the game. I'm analyzing the game. I'm analyzing the game. Ocho, do you realize what you just said? You said the Broncos' defense was more impressive, but you led with a secondary. I said the Broncos' defense was impressive today,

but Russell Wilson led drives that equated to 17 points of the 24 that they scored off the five turnovers. Nick Bortano pressured Mahomes eight times. Barron Browning slacked him. Going into the game, he had only been s Mahomes eight times. Baron Browning, slacked him. Going into the game, he had only been sacked like six times. Five times. He got sacked three times today,

including a script sack. I'm not saying Russell, he looked more decisive. When it wasn't there, he took off. Yeah, he took six sacks, but I'd rather him take a sack than put the ball in harm's way.

Kudos. Russ did not turn the – Russ, I don't think he turned the ball over today. That's fine. But you can't say your biggest takeaway – that's like saying – Listen, you can't do that. You can't tell me what my biggest takeaway has to be just like yours. My biggest takeaway – you know what? The defense played well.

The defense played well. You know what? But my biggest takeaway was when they got the ball back, when the Broncos, when it mattered most, Russell Wilson, Jerry, Judy were able to execute the offense and put up 17 points of the five turnovers to make sure they won the goddamn game. Yes. Okay. You're right. You know what,

Ocho? That's your biggest takeaway. Thank you. You wanted to cape for Russ because you feel... I'm not... Wait, cape? I'm just telling you what happened. It's not caping. I watched the game. You do realize that I saw your tweet. I watched the game. Ocho, you do realize I saw your tweet. Yeah. Your tweet that said that you

was going to make sure? So come on now. you do realize I saw your tweet? Yeah. Your tweet that said that you was going to make sure? So come on now. You do realize. Okay. I want you to give Russ his credit. You haven't given him credit yet. No, no. You caping.

We're not fans. We're not fans, Ocho. I'm not a fan. I'm not being a fan. I'm just telling you what I saw and I'm giving you my critique. You just told me. How you going to tell me what I saw? You just told me I couldn't do that to you. Now you going to turn around and tell me what I saw and I'm giving you my critique. How you gonna tell me what I saw? You just told me I couldn't do that to you. Now you gonna turn

around and tell me what I saw. Can you do me a favor? Can you do me a favor? It all depends on what it is. Do me a favor. Just give Russ his credit real quick on today's win. Ocho. I just... I know you want to give it to... I said the defense played well. Ocho. It's not... Ocho. I just

said I thought Russ was as decisive today in his throwing the football. Very decisive. In the pocket, he took off and got some very valuable first downs with his legs. But for me, if you left that game, Russ completed 12 passes. They ran the ball 40 times. They threw it 19 times.

You take what the defense is giving you. You take what the defense is giving you. You take what the defense is giving you. Hold on. Time out. You tell me, do not let the defense dictate what we do. You've been saying that for eight weeks. Now you take what the defense give you? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Listen to me now. If it's working and it's not broken, you don't fix it. Ocho, Ocho, you said- If it's working and it's not- If it's working and it's not broken, there's no need to fix it. Ocho, that's, you said- If it's working and it's not- If it's working and it's not broken, there's no need to fix it. Ocho, that's not what you said. You said you hate when offenses let defenses dictate

where the ball is going to go. I was speaking on a simple perspective of allowing defense to take away your best target from a receiver standpoint. You just told me, you just told everybody that's watching that he took what the defense gave him. So when I've been telling you

you take what the defense gives you, you tell me you can't let the defense dictate. Now, which is it? And if I'm not mistaken, I think I was speaking when it was pertaining to Devontae Adams, if I'm not mistaken. Okay, they're taking what the defense gives them. Okay, the defense is was pertaining to Devontae Adams, if I'm not mistaken.

Okay, they're taking what the defense gives them. Okay, the defense is not giving them Devontae. Okay, okay. I get where you're going. But based on the team and based on what we're talking about right now, I think what they need is today the defense was giving them the run, and the run was working. So what do you keep on doing?

You keep on running it. Okay. Wait, wait, wait. Let me finish. The fact that he only needs to complete 12 passes and still came away with a victory. What does that tell you? It tells me that the Broncos played very well today. The Chiefs didn't have their best stuff.

And Patrick Mahomes was awful. I'm not going to use, oh, he was sick and he had the bug. We don't use excuses because if he'd have played well, we'd have been talking about he was Michael Jordan. But I'm glad we don't have to talk about that because all I know is I saw 15 and I saw Mahomes on the back of that jersey. So there's a level of expectation.

I don't want to hear nothing about the fumbles. I don't want to hear anything about the drops. It is what it is. He knew going into that game, they knew going into the season that these receivers were young. Scott Moore hasn't gotten any better since his rookie season. Rice is hit or miss.

Baddell Scanlon, one game he's going to catch a touchdown and play well. The next game he's going to drop and he's going to fumble. We know that. We know the only receiver that he can consistently count on is Travis Kelsey. And he didn't have his best day. And I'm kind of disappointed because, you know, Friday night, he was at the Rangers game. What's wrong with that?

It's the middle of the season. What do you mean? What's wrong with that? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Listen, I know the Chiefs lost. I know they lost. I know Mahomes didn't have a game. I know Travis Kelsey didn't have a game.

But you're not going to tell me you can't enjoy yourself on a Friday night, which is a short day. Listen to me. It's a short day. It was in Texas. He lives in Kansas City. Oh, shit. Okay. Okay.

I'm tripping. You really tripping. That's different. I definitely wouldn't be getting on no plane to go nowhere for no game. But that was the World Series game, right? Yes. Am I mistaken? If it's –

Okay. Why can't that – Let me imagine one thing. If it's in Kansas City, I got no problem with that. But you mean to tell me you're going to get on a plane and go to Arlington and then you got a game on Sunday during the season? That's a bad look. I mean, listen, based on what Travis Kelsey's been doing,

based on what he's been able to do, the consistency he's put up year in and year out, game by game, it's hard to really argue the fact that him taking a mental reset to go watch the World Series game is the reason why he didn't play well. The team in itself didn't play well. I'm not saying that's the reason why he didn't play well.

You really think that's a bad look though? It's an awful look. It's a terrible look. If it was the bye week, Ocho, you do realize this is the NFL. You got a game on Sunday. You're going to board a plane? Let me ask you a question.

Every coach I've ever... That's a middle reset, though. Every coach I've ever played for has always told us one thing on Friday. Make sure you get off your feet. Make sure you get off your feet. I'm sure everybody that's in the NFL has heard the exact same thing.

They don't say, hey, we understand that we ain't got no game on Saturday, but hey, go. And then if you look at it, there's videos popping up of he was like, he was like raging. He was like, ow, come on, Ocho. That's a horrible look. I'm not saying it's a bad look. I'm saying it's a horrible look.

And Trav, my guy, but it's not a good look. I'm not saying it's a bad look. I'm saying it's a horrible look. And Trav, my guy. But it's not a good look. I understand what you're saying, but it's honestly, I love you to death, but it's really hard for me to agree with you on this. And I understand everybody's different. Listen, I think Remember, you gotta understand

optics matter. Optics matter. Because of the caliber of player, Travis Kelsey has a little bit more leniency to do something like that on a Friday, to have a mental reset, to go enjoy a World Series game and be able to come back and perform. Because you know what you get from him. You know what you get from him week in and week out. This is why I don't want Travis Kelsey to do that. Because of the look.

If somebody else had done that, but Travis is a leader. Somebody else can't do that. They can't do that. They're not Travis Kelsey to do that because of the look. If somebody else had done that, but Travis is a leader. Somebody else can't do that. They can't do that. They're not Travis Kelsey. Travis is the leader. But see, here's the thing. Even though I was a leader, I never did anything where the team could see that I was getting privileges. Because I'm telling you, they'll grow to resent you.

Remember the Russell Wilson? How he got the locker? How he had the office? How he had the office? How he got to come in certain things? He had earned it. He won the Super Bowl. He had been a multiple-time Pro Bowl player. I'm telling you how human the net, how the human mind works.

Your teammates will grow to, I don't care what you've accomplished. Don't thumb their nose in it. Don't make them feel, oh, because don't do it. It's a horrible look. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. That's a tough one, man. It's not a tough one, Ocho. It's not a tough one. It's really not. Like I said,

if it's the bye week, and we can get into, we're going to talk about the bye weeks and, you know, how some guys, you know, because when I play, we got Thursday, we got Thursday at noon off, and then we had Friday, Saturday, Sunday, we had to be back Monday by noon. Now they get their entire week off and you and I'll get into that. What's the proper way to,

to reset during the bye week. You and I'll discuss that a little later, but during the season and NFL season, that's a bad look, bro. I'm sorry. Yeah, I got you.

Listen, time to different. Now everybody different. Everybody has a different approach to the game. Everybody operates differently on the way they do things. Listen, time is different now. Everybody is different. Everybody has a different approach to the game. Everybody operates differently on the way they do things. And it's hard for me to judge. And I'm just saying, if I were the team of the Kelseys, and I understand.

I would be disappointed. I would be very upset. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Because that's his decision. That's his decision. And he's earned the right to be able to do that. He's earned the right to be able to do that. He's earned the right to be able to do that.

Hey, listen, when Sunday, what is Kelsey giving me on Sunday when it's time to play at 1 o'clock? I don't care what you're doing on your off time. I'm just telling me personally. I'm just telling me personally. For you, you would have been upset. I don't control. I'm not controlling or conducting what somebody does on time.

So I just want to make sure I'm hearing you correctly. What are you going to do? What are you going to do for me on Sundays at 1 o'clock? That's all I care about. So I just want to make sure I'm hearing you correctly. What are you going to do for me on Sundays at 1 o'clock? That's all I care about. I just want to make sure I'm hearing you correctly. If the player is good, you don't care what he does. No, no, no. When the player is great. Don't do that.

Okay. When the player is great, you don't care what he does as long as he's short for you and play well on Sunday. That's all that matters. That's what he gets paid to do. Oh, Joe, I'm going to be honest with all that matters. That's what he gets paid to do. Ocho, I'm going to be honest with you, bro. That's what he gets paid to do. I'm glad. All the other stuff and all the optics and all that other stuff, I ain't

kidding about that. What you doing for me on Sunday at 1 o'clock? Ocho, it doesn't work like that. It really doesn't, Ocho. I mean, I played the game. You played the game. You and I played by the same amount of time. But that's a bad look. Let's talk. But that's a bad look. Let's talk.

But that's a jaded way of thinking. No, it's not a jaded way of thinking. It's a horrible way. That's not a jaded way. Because listen, there are privileges. There are so many examples of privileges of certain players that are really good that get to do things that others can't. That's been the lay of the land for the longest.

Let's not act like that. I'm not saying. Come on, man. Ocho. Come on, the lay of the land for the longest. Let's not act like that. I'm not saying... Come on, now. Ocho. Come on, now. Don't do that. Okay, the quarterback getting a parking spot

is one thing. Leaving your team to go to fly to Texas. You do realize... Now, I can see it if it was his dad, if it was his brother. Right.

But I'm saying I don't really know the affiliation with him in Kansas City. And that's fine. But that's still a horrible look, Ocho, to leave in the middle of the season and go watch a baseball game how many times? Now, would he have been upset if another player had done that? So what's to stop another player from going to do something?

So what's stopping Patrick Mahomes from going to watch a game during the Super Bowl on a Friday before the Super Bowl? Why? Why not? Can I tell you something? Sure. Can I tell you something real quick? Sure. Man, these boys don't care about that, man.

I'm just telling you. No. They don't care about that. That's fine. They don't care. They're not interested in what you do. I think he does care. And I wish he'd put a little bit more thought into it because the optics of it, it's not a very good look.

So that's where I am on that. Okay, I got you. Let's go to the other quarterback. The 49ers lose to your team again. Brock Purdy had zero picks in his first five wins. He had five picks in his last three losses three games yeah i said something after they scored 42 10 they beat the cowboys 42 10 and i got hammered for it i said brock purdy is not elite i said if y'all think he elite you're fooling yourself now i'm not i'm not

i don't like to do you know hindsight is a magnificent sign it's perfect because you get to look today already knowing what happened yesterday. What's your takeaway? What do you think of Brock Purdy? Brock didn't have a very good game. He didn't have a very good game. And the first thing I said, when no Trent Williams,

no Deebo Samuels, he would have to play that much better. When the talent around you is not what it should be, that means you have to play that much better to make up for what's not there. Ayuk did what he could do. Christian McCaffrey did what he could do. But when it came down to it, Purdy didn't do what was necessary

to give his team a chance to win the game. Two picks, fumble loss. The way, the thing that I wanted to see, and this is the way I said, I want to see

when every throw matters, when every possession matters, not when you're ahead, way ahead. And you see now, Ocho, the defense is starting to slip a little bit. And now every throw matters. Every possession matters. They can't stifle teams.

They're not getting short fields. The defense is not turning you over, getting short fields. Now we get an opportunity to see the level of greatness. And see, when I said he wasn't elite, that doesn't mean he can't become elite. I'm saying as I sit here and judge him today, he's not elite. Right. And I think

it's mass when you have so much talent like that around you. You can look elite at the time when you have that type of supporting cast around you. Brock Purdy is a very good quarterback. Brock Purdy is a very good quarterback. But is he on the elite level? He's not that just yet. But I have a question. I just I just I'm the drift off just a little bit.

Go ahead. Is it the fact that the 49ers defense is not really declining, but didn't look like themselves today? Or was it the fact that Joe Burrow is now healthy? Well, I thought Joe has gotten healthy to buy wheat cutting at a great time for them because they gave him an extra wheat to get that calf and he got an opportunity to stay off his legs, rest that calf.

But I thought the Cincinnati Bengals, the Bengals offensive line did a great job. Hell of a job. And he did a great job. They had him a couple of times and he got out and got first down. Listen, Joe Houdini Burrow. And you saw today, they ran a quarterback draw. He got a first down.

He got out of harm's way. He took off. So that tells me that that calf is 100% because there was no hesitation. Remember how you said, I think I hesitation remember what remember how you said i think i can't remember exactly what you said but when the bangles are owing to and i told you just be patient yeah just be patient yeah calf oh joe burrows hurt they don't look the same and i've told i told the rest of the world i say listen we always start like this we always start like this and it's one thing about the bangles when everybody is healthy and humming we're going to be alright

everybody panicking and you ask me is it time to hit the panic button it's not it's okay the only the football season is not

a sprint it's a marathon it's about it's about hitting your stride at the right time timing is impeccable and we hit it at the right time

and this momentum is going to continue to carry on and you know who else in trouble you know in trouble next Buffalo Buffalo the Bills hitting it at the right time. And this momentum is going to continue to carry on. And you know who else in trouble next? Buffalo.

Buffalo, the Bills. No disrespect to Josh and Stephon Diggs. They in trouble next. My only concerns, Ocho, what I felt that was different than the previous season when you started 0-2, is that Joe Burrow was healthy. If you told me Joe was 100%, I was like, okay.

I've kind of seen this movie before. and I know he'll figure it out. He and Stephon Diggs will get on the same page. They'll do a little better job of running the football. Today, Joe Mixon had a season's best 87 yards rushing. Jamar Chase was Jamar Chase. Ten catches, 100 yards, didn't get the ball into the end zone, but he had some big-time catches. I think two passing affairs.

Yeah. Chase scored once. Yeah, he did. He had what you call catches. I think two passing affairs. Yeah. Chase scored once. Yeah, he did. He had what you call it. He had that slot route. And he faked that. They're going to run the jailbreak screen. Here come everybody running.

And he slid right down the side. You're right. You're right. My bad. Ten catches, 100 yards, and a touchdown. Three different receivers scored a touchdown. Boyd had it going. Got some key third downs early in the ballgame.

This is how the bingos offense but what was really really impressive was their defense because they did they did a job of taking the ball away great job take caleb taylor brett i know you're gonna see this jermaine pratt i know you're gonna see this i love y'all boys who they keep it. Keep it going. Keep it going. And what's the 21? Hyatt? Hilton. Hilton. Hilton.

Mike. Yeah, man. Yeah, he playing. He playing. He playing. Mike Nasty, boy. Yes. Mike Nasty.

Yes. Yes. Real savvy. Real savvy veteran. Very savvy veteran. It looks like that division is going to be a clash. I think Baltimore is going to kick them. Baltimore could have had a commanding lead

in this division had they went ahead and taken care of business with the Steelers. We saw the Steelers lose again today at Jacksonville. The Browns lost. So it looks like it's going to be a two-horse race in this division, Cincinnati and Baltimore. Can I tell you something? Yes. I'm not Cleo.

I don't have a genie. I can't predict the future. I can't. I can't. But I can tell you about the script when it comes to the NFL, and I can tell you how it's going to end. And this is no disrespect to the Browns. This is no disrespect to the Ravens.

The AFC North is going through Cincinnati. And I mean that with all due respect to everybody for fans and all that. But I'm just saying we're hitting our stride at the right time. It looked like the Ravens hitting their stride too. I don't know if you've been noticing. Listen, no, no. Well, I noticed. I know.

Ravens got the best defense. Best defense in the league, man. I understand. I understand that. But I'm just saying when the time comes, it's going to come down to coming out the AFC. Yep. The Ravens and the Bengals. Yeah. And we already know who coming out on AFC, the Ravens, and the Bengals.

And we already know who's coming out on top, especially on the back end of the season. Well, we're going to see. I think L. Jack, Lamar Jackson, Action Jackson is going to have something to say about that. Listen, L. Jack is the real deal. That's home team. No disrespect to him.

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We go to the Cowboys. They do a demolition job on the Rams, 43-20. Dak Prescott. The defense was outstanding again today. Dak was 25-31, 304, four touchdowns, one interception. He was throwing the ball over the middle. The guy got his hand up at Karam a couple of times and got picked off.

CeeDee Lamb, 12 for a buck 58, two touchdowns. Did you realize this, Ocho? I don't know if you realized this. This was the first time Dallas offense scored more than two touchdowns since week one. Yeah, I knew he was going. I knew that's where he was going. I knew that's where he was going because the entire season,

all we've talked about is the defense and how well they played and taking the ball away and giving the Cowboys offense short fields and defense scoring touchdowns and making it easy where other teams were always playing from behind. But what did Dak Prescott

show us today? Do me a favor. Dak played a hell of a game. Do me a favor. Dak played a hell of a game. Do me a favor. Read Dak's stat. Read me Dak's stat line one more time. 3-0-4, four touchdowns,

one pick. Woohoo! Yeah. Can you get Dak's credit today? Huh? I thought he played well. No, play well. Play well?

Yes. Play well. I thought he played very well. He was elite. He was elite today. And the deck that you saw today. No, no, no, no, no, no, Ocho. What we're not going to do, if we're not going to put elite one day, then take it off the next day.

Either you're elite or you're not. Is Dak Prescott elite? The NFL is week to week. No, it's Ocho. It's week to week. Not greatness. Greatness is not week to week Ocho stop this now stop this look Ocho stop how did Patrick stay with me how did Patrick Mahomes play last week

so is he not so how did Patrick Mahomes play last week Ocho how did he play today Ocho so are you saying because Patrick Mahomes had two bad weeks he's not great he's not great. He's not elite. Whoa, that's not what I just said. I said the NFL is week to week. This week, Dak Prescott was elite. Ocho, but we don't assign... You know what, Ocho? You can assign elite as high up as you want. Thank you.

People at home, greatness and eliteness is not a week to week thing. Granted, you update your resume, but once you're in the league, Patrick Mahomes is elite. Patrick Mahomes is great. Because he hasn't played well in two weeks, we don't take him out of that eliteness.

Wait a minute. I didn't – Yes, you did. You said – I just asked you. I said, is Dak Prescott elite? You said he was elite today. You said he was elite today. You said he was elite today. I said, Ocho.

He was elite today. He was elite today. Did you not? I saw, I watched the game. Ocho. I watched the game. Ocho, I'm not saying. I'm not even a Cowboys fan.

I watched the game. I saw Dak Prescott do what everybody said he couldn't do and hasn't done the entirety of this season so far. And he did it today. Okay, let me ask you a question. What hasn't he't do and hasn't done the entirety of this season so far. And he did it today. Let me ask you a question. What hasn't he done? So, okay, again, they were 2-4 in the red zone. They're still 50% in the red zone.

What did you just say they hadn't done since week one? Scored two touchdowns, offensive touchdowns. How many did they score offensively? What did CeeDee Lamb do today? Show why he's one of the best in the league. Ocho. Ocho. So when you watch the game, did you see that pick six by Deron Bland, who

now has three pick six? Hold on. I'm just asking. I'm just making sure. They left the ball too far behind, but okay, yeah. Did you see the block punt for safety? Yeah. Okay. Did you see Kevon Turpin run the ball back to almost the 10-yard line? Yes.

So, Ocho, I'm not taking anything away from the offense, but what I've said is that it seems like the Cowboys' offense gets going in the right direction when their defense. Micah, what did Micah do today? Micah, you see Micah. Strip sack, forced fumble, sack, short field. That's all. Look, my problem was is that when they created those opportunities,

that wasn't taking advantage of them. Advantage of it. So now, if you tell me, Ocho, this is the Cowboys we're going to see moving forward. I'm going to say everybody in the NFC going to have their damn hands full. If the Cowboys are going to, you're going to see moving forward. I'm going to say everybody in the NFC is going to have their damn hands full. If the Cowboys are going to, if the Cowboys, you're going to get pick sixes.

And we've seen when the Cowboys play great, what do they do? They're always spearheaded by what? Pick sixes, punt, scooping scores, or short fields. But that, go ahead.

Football. Yes. There are three phases to the game. Yes. And normally when you win in all three phases. Yes. You get what you got today. If you look at the Cowboys, when they win a game,

they don't just win all three phases. They dominate. Right. They don't win. You look at what they did to the Patriots. You look at what they did to the Jets. You look at what they did to the Giants. Now we look at the Giants offensively. We're going to talk about them a little later. We look at those teams. If you look at what they did to the Jets. You look at what they did to the Giants. Now we look at the Giants offensively. We're going to talk about

them a little later. We look at those teams and you look at what they did to the Rams when they when they don't win all three phases, they dominate and when you dominate all three, if you can dominate two of the three phases, there's probably a 75

chance percent chance you're going to win. When you dominate all three, it's, you're almost unbeatable. And that's what we're seeing. Right. And one of the things that I like, and you can attest to this, when you have a game like today, when C.P. Lamb has a game like that and Dak Prescott has a game like that, that defense, and Makai has a game like that,

do you know the type of confidence you have after a performance like that going into the week in practice and going into the next game? It carries over. It carries over, not just with the individual players, but the team as well. Offensively, that going to be, you know, you get a different bounce to yourself, man. You get a different bounce or just a different aura or a different walk.

It just is something about having a good game and you want that momentum to carry. Well, you needed this because you know they play next week. They got the Eagles next week in Philly. And so they really needed this game. Jared Jones after the game said he didn't want to talk about the upcoming Philly game because he doesn't

want to poke the bear. Dak was told of this and Dak Paul smiled. Pour honey on me. If you ever see me in a fight with the bear, pour honey on me. I'm looking forward to that. I like it. I like it. And this is one of the few times where Jerry Jones didn't step up to the plate and give the

opposing team bulletin board material and allowed... Damn that bulletin board. I said, I remember we played the Tennessee Titans in the playoff game, Ocho, and all the little comments that we had said, because they had, you know, NFL's films wasn't supposed to release what we were saying in our

locker room, but they released it anyway. And so they had all the montage, what Coach Billick was saying, what I had said, what Ray had said. And so you know what I said? I said, whatever they say, we said, we said it. Now what y'all gonna do about it? Because at the end of the day, Ocho, whether I said, whatever they say, we said, we said it. Now, what y'all going to do about it? Right.

Because at the end of the day, Ocho, whether I said a little or I said a lot. You said a lot, yeah. We still got to play the game. Mm-hmm. We still got to buckle this thing up. We got to strap these pads up. Yeah, no matter what. It don't matter what I say.

So, you know what? I'll be quiet. Well, since Shannon ain't say nothing this week, we're going to go easy on him. Nah, he talking. Let's get it. Ocho, it don't matter. You know how it goes. It's all the same. It's all the same.

So, ooh, that's going to be a barn burner. That's going to be a barn burner next week. That's going to be a good game. They got the 1 o'clock or 4 o'clock slate. They need to change it. They normally never put the Cowboys and Eagles in a 1 o'clock window. That's always going to be the late game. Probably 4 to 4.20. Yeah, that's window. That's always going to be the late game. That's probably four to four,

four 20. Yeah. That's the four 25 might be a Sunday night game. It's the late game. It's the late game. Yeah. That that's like, you know,

my former network Fox ain't really trying to give up no Cowboys. Cowboys Eagle. Oh, hell no. Cowboys 49. Absolutely not. You're not trying to give up that game. Okay.

The jets get an improbable win. They come back. They beat third-string quarterback Tommy DeVito, who played more like Ocho. How about this here? I don't care what string it was. I had more passing yards than Tommy DeVito, and I ain't leaving my couch.

I ain't trying to hear all that. Guess what? I had, ladies and gentlemen at home, Shannon Sharp, 55 years of age, sitting on his couch in LA had more passing yards than Tommy DeVito. Zach Wilson and the Jets beat the Giants.

Zach Wilson and the Jets. Did you realize you had more passing yards than Tommy DeVito? When's the last time you threw an NFL ball? What does that have to do with the outcome of the game today? Zach Wilson, say it with me. Zach Wilson. Ocho, think about what you just said.

Think about it. Hold on, Ocho. I want you to think about what you just said. The same thing I said when I talked about the Broncos. You said on the end of your bed. You had more passing yards sitting on the end of your bed than a quarterback did in the NFL with nine passing yards. What does that have to do?

What do we have to do with the personnel for the Giants? What do we have? I ain't got nothing to do with that. I ain't got nothing to do with that. They know what they had on their roster. They know what they had on their roster. That is not going to take away the fact that a game, the game, the NFL game in itself is about moments.

It's about moments. Yeah. The exact Wilson play great. No. The exact Wilson lose the game for the Jets. No. That's his only job. Wait, wait, stay with me.

Was he in a position to help his team win in a pivotal moment at the end of the game and overtime? Yes. Did he not make two important clutch? I don't even know how to spell clutch because I can't drive stick. Did he make two crazy clutch throws to put his team in position to win the game? Big time. Big time. Big time.

Say his name with me. Gigantormantic throws. And that's his job is to not lose the game. You don't have to win it. Like you said, sometimes the game comes down to a throw here or a throw there. And the throws, when it mattered,

he made them. Yes. If I had a cap, I'd tip it. Thank you. Thank you. Zach, I hope you see had a cap, I'd tip it. Thank you. Thank you. Zach, I hope you see this. Shannon, giving you your love. Oh, and that's what it's about. But that was a terrible game to watch, though. Okay. Yeah.

I mean, listen. The weather played a part. The weather played a part. Now, I know you have to adapt to it. You have to play. You have to play. They had over 1,000 yards and punts. Yeah.

It was bad. They had 23 points between the two teams and 24 punts. Yeah, it was bad. The Jazz managed to find us nine passing yards, Ocho. That's why I say you and I had more passing yards. Yeah, you're right. It was an ugly game. Four for 34 on third down?

I don't know if I've ever heard of that. Do you owe for 34? I mean, four for 34 on third downs? That's bad. That's a bad football. It isn't bad football. But I take my hats off to the fans because me, I'm going to be fair weather.

If it ain't got dang on 80 degrees and sunny, your boy can't go. I can't say, oh, oh, no. You can't do that. You can't do that. And I've got to finish it. You're not a true fan. That's why they're called.

That's what they call fans. True fans. It could be for fanatics. Hot, cold, rain, sleep, snow, thunderstorm. If the game is playing, they're going to be out there supporting. Big N, big O, no. So I tip my cap because it's a deluge. It's a monsoon.

And they're sitting on there with their parkas and their raincoats. And they're like in and they're cheering. No, Ocho, I can't do that. Hell, I didn't want to be out there. I was playing. If you a Jets fan, you got to be happy. Because I told you what would happen. You're ecstatic.

But Ocho. They won the last three games. Name the player that liked playing in the rain in a football game. Listen, when we was little, we loved being in the rain. It wasn't a problem. We loved it. I hated the rain, playing in the rain.

I don't mind the rain. I don't like it hot, which is weird because I'm from Florida. Give me hot. Give me cold. I like it when it's cold. No, I don't like that. Because when it's cold, I'm not going. Give me hot. Yeah. Give me cold. I like it when it's cold. No, I don't like that. Because when it's cold I'm not going to cramp up

before the half. My calf muscles. My calves. Man, them little BBs you got back there talking about some calf muscles. The Eagles pull out a victory

over the Commanders. A.J. Brown is playing out of his mind. Another eight catch 130 yards two touchdowns today. He's the first player in NFL history to have

six straight games with at least 125 yards that's crazy jaylen hurts 29 of 38 319 four touchdowns and the game probably should have been that close ocho he lost two fumbles inside his three yard lines yeah they've got to clean that up because the Cowboys are coming. You need points at a premium because as you step up in level of competition, your, your, your, your,

your level of, of, of mistake must go. Mistakes must go down. Go down. Right. Cause if you do what, if you do what you did against the Cowboys and look,

they know each other, you know, Hey, this is, these are the vision, just like the Eagles and the commanders. They're in the same division, the NFC East, the Cowboys and the Eagles, they know each other. These are the division. Just like the Eagles and the Commanders, they're in the same division, the NFC East. The Cowboys and the Eagles, same division, NFC East. They

know each other. But you pay double in a division game when you turn the ball over because remember, that's what happened to Kansas City. Remember, Ocho, you turn the ball over, either you're going to bring the team up to your level or you're going to go down to their level. One of the two things are going to happen. But Jalen Hurts throwing the ball. Man, I don't even know what to say down to their level. One of the two things is going to happen.

But Jalen Hurts throwing the ball. Man, I don't even know what to say about A.J. A.J. done lost his mind these last six weeks. Listen, A.J. Brown is bumping his head off the goalpost every time you look around. And it's not just the contested catches, catches wide open. I don't know what ritual he's doing or what he's eating. Whatever he's doing, he just got to keep doing it. He got to keep doing it because what he's doing is unheard of.

Did you see the one-hand grab in the end zone with the dude draped all over him? Like, come on, man. What are we doing? You know, everybody else is going to be like, ever since he had that little dust up with Hurts on the sideline. There's just a minor disagreement. Yeah, yeah. There's a little minor disagreement.

Throw me the ball. And since Hurts has made it his mindset, I'm going to feed big dog early and often. Yeah. It makes sense. It makes sense. And the funny thing about it is you know it's coming, especially when you play a division opponent.

You know how to stop your number one target, and there's nothing they can do. There's nothing they can do to stop them. That's crazy. And both of his touchdowns that he caught on Washington was tightly contested. A.J. Brown now has 12 receiving touchdowns of throws of 15-plus yards downfield since the start of last season.

That's number one in the NFL. Hurts again, 29 of 38, 319, four touchdowns. since the start of last season, that's number one in the NFL. Hurts again, 29 of 38, 319, four touchdowns. There's going to be a matchup because now we're going to get to find out. We're going to get to find out because everybody – we've kind of been – Cowboys, they've been playing okay, but not – they winning. The Eagles, they're like, man, Ocho, they winning, but they don't look like they did last year. They having a hard time

getting out of third gear, trying to get to fourth and on to fifth. We don't need fifth right now, but we really trying to get out of third gear because we're almost halfway through the season. Now, we're going to find out there's no love lost between these two teams. I want you to know that I'm the beast

of the east and the east goes through dallas or it goes through philly again yeah one of the other and the the fact of the matter watching the game today and i was doing i was watching double i was having to look look to my left and look to my right earlier today when i was watching the philly game and the funny thing about it when it was 14-3, I was like, man, well, the Commanders got this one. I thought it was going to be one of those days. And I looked over to the right

and I came back. I'm like, wait, wait a minute. And the scoreline continued to change and it continued to change. And again, and when it mattered most in pivotal moments

in that game, he made the throws necessary. Run here or run there. And God damn it, I'll be damned. They back in that game, he made the throws necessary. Run here or run there. And God damn it, I'll be damned. They back in the game. Not only back in the game. Took the lead. They done took the lead.

Unbelievable football. And the fact that both of these teams, the fact that Dallas won the way they did, and with a comeback victory for the Eagles, both teams coming to the game with great momentum and confidence. Individually for the individual players. I'm telling you, having a good game, it do something to you.

I don't know what it is. It just does something to you. So ain't no telling what's going to happen. All I know is this. When I play, I'm looking at a team that we're going to play and I'm like, man, their quarterback ain't as good as ours. Their receivers

are not good as ours. Man, they threw for 300 yards. Man, what you think? Sam Howell almost threw for 400. Yeah. What you think Dak and CD and those receivers thinking? Hey, Ocho, you know, let me get an extra helping of that.

Let me get an extra helping of Bradbury the fourth. Hey, give me a little bit. Hey, give me a helping of that. Let me get an extra helping of Bradbury the fourth. Hey, give me a little bit. Hey, give me a side of that slate. Give me a bar yard. I know you just got there, but I want, hey, I want an extra helping of him because Sam Howell got 400. Dak said, and he don't talk about he won't punt it on him because he going to fight a bear because he want the bear to stay there.

And, you know, I'm glad they got CeeDee involved. They haven't been using CeeDee to the magnitude he should be used at. Yeah. Because he can make Dak's job very, very easy. I don't like people talking about CeeDee not being a number one receiver. They like to say, well, he's borderline. He's not there yet. Yes, he is.

Yes, he is. He just got to be consistent. The one thing you know about the true number ones is that A.J. showed up every week. Reed, Justin Jefferson, Chase, those guys, Diggs. I mean, I can't have C.D. have a game like this and then come back next week

and give me 50 of those Ocho. I can't have that. It's not that he's going to give you 50. It's the fact that the opportunities and the targets have to be there. The play calling has to be there. And if they're trying to take him away, you got to manipulate your scheme offensively to put him in

position to get open. It's easy to do. You know, sometimes offensive coordinators have ego. I want to run my system and I'm going to run it the way I want to. And if they want to take him away, I'm going to let them take him away. I'm going to just use everybody else. Sometimes your offensive coordinator got to be aggressive. Today, you ain't taking away 88.

The system, that system, I know that system, that West Coast system is predicated on the receiver. Jerry Rice in that offense. You go back and look at all the great receivers that have played in that system. Right. It's all about the X and the Z receiver. Yeah. If Jerry was the Z, John Taylor was the X, my brother played the Z,

you go back and look at the West Coast and look at that offense and you look at the guys that play it. You got to have a dog and you got to give him the ball. You got to. It's mandatory. And most of those guys are tremendous run after the catch because seeing he was a punt returner, you guys are tremendous run after the catch because CD was a punt returner.

You know, he's good after the catch. You know, he has some elusivity to it. You just got to give him an opportunity. You got to, Hey, like you said,

Hey, give him a, I can't look Gallup for whatever reason. Gallup hadn't really gotten, he doesn't look like he's gotten all the way back over that knee injury. Right. I know what I'm going to get with Brandon cooks. I'm going to get a deep threat here there but my guy cd cd i keep saying my guy but cd is a guy he can work the slot he's outside the numbers he can run the tree he can get deep

so at some point in time you just might have to force feed him and i know jerry says i want to spread it around spread it around and do what that's just again because you don't want to pay that man his money because you know that man going to be asking for 25 going to be asking for 28 M's 30 M's so you want to try to suppress so you want to try to keep them numbers down oh yeah they will do that that's the way the game

that's the way the game goes I think the funny thing about it I don't even think the outside world understands the business side of it of suppressing numbers another thing when receivers or receiving get into their 30s and the funny thing about it, I don't even think the outside world understands the business side of it, of suppressing numbers. Another thing, when receivers or receivers get into their 30s and the first thing everybody likes to do is say, oh, he's slowing down. He lost a step. Oh, he lost a step. He ain't lose nothing if you pay attention.

Just pay attention to the targets and opportunities, how they start to decrease. So your numbers decrease as well. And then they like to use, yeah, well, you're not the same as you used to be. Well, yeah, motherfucker, you ain't throwing me the goddamn ball the way you used to either. Because the last thing you want is him to be on one of those all-pro teams.

Have 100-plus catches, 1,500 yards, another double-digit touchdown season. Back up the brink truck, please. Exactly. Back it up, please. Having been a part of this system, you and I know how the system works. Let's go to the Ravens.

The Ravens win this ballgame, but the story of the game was Odell clearly being frustrated. We saw him draw a defensive pass interference and then go to the sideline and slam his helmet. Odell drew three penalties today, but he had zero catches on four targets. This is only the second time

in his 102-game career that he's failed to register a catch in a game. And Ocho, you know how it is. You go to another team. Because they know who Odell is. They remember this Odell. They remember the guy with the Spider-Man catches, the guy that's dancing, doing all that thing.

The last time they saw the guy, he was going haywire right before the half in the Super Bowl. And so he wants to come and put on a great show, wants to have an impression. And for whatever reason, I don't know, Ocho, I don't know why it just hasn't clicked for him.

What do you think's going on? I think, obviously, you're in a different system. You're in a different system. You're in a different offense. I think Odell wants to get back to being the Odell of old, letting everybody know

I can still do this. I can still be the Odell of old. I can be the Odell you saw with the Rams. I can be the Odell you saw with the Giants. Is that possible? Of all the work, think about,

think about all the work he's put in to come back from not one, but a second ACL. Yeah. You put in all that work to get back

and all you want to do is you want to go out there and contribute. Contribute to some of the Ws, some of the wins, and obviously with the pass interference it's interfering with him and he just want to get in rhythm. He want some of the wins, and obviously with the pass interference, it's interfering with him,

and he just want to get in rhythm. He want to touch the ball. How can I be an intricate part of the offense if I can't get the ball in my hands? The balls are coming, but obviously there were pass interferences, and the frustration is building up because he's not able to contribute in being a part in helping that team win. And one of the things I said, Odell, and I said this about him,

I forgot where I was at when I said this. We talk about quarterbacks getting $20 million contracts. If Odell hadn't have been hurt, I believe Odell would have been the first receiver to have a $20 million deal. He was that dynamic. He was that polarizing. He meant that much to the game of football. I think he would have been the first.

He can do anything from anywhere in the field. One of the few players I've seen take hitches, slants, go deep, just do every goddamn thing. You know? And the fact that he got hurt. I think had he not got hurt originally and he'd have had some better behavior in New York, I would agree with you.

That wasn't going to happen once he went to Cleveland and had that knee injury. Because you know that unless you're a quarterback, they're not handing out $200 million contract. But that's why I said if he hadn't gotten hurt. Now, had he stayed, if he could have had a quarterback, stayed in New York, because remember, Ocho, he was box office in New York.

Yeah. His first four years, he was electric. He was nothing like it. He was the few guys, I mean, the Giants might not make but one play, but you knew one thing, 13 was going to make it. And he could take a slant and go hit his head on the goalpost. He could make the spectacular catch on the sideline. He could go over the top.

He had, and he was box office in terms of he was must watch TV. Not just, you know, there are a lot of guys that, you know, can catch the ball. I mean, a lot of guys can catch the ball, but are they must watch TV? Man, hey, I got to get home. Man, hey, I got to see what Reek going to do. Tyreek going to pee somebody out, and I need to see it. Hey, AJ Brown going to catch it in the crowd and going to run somebody over.

I need to see it. Justin Jefferson going to shake somebody. Jamar Shake, there are certain guys that you got to see. Odell was all of that. And he had the flair. He had the shoes. He had the gloves. He had the charisma and the persona.

And he was in New York. Yeah. See, that's the game changer, Ocho. He in New York. Yeah. So, yeah, and I feel bad. It's tough, Ocho. It's tough.

It's tough. It is. Because what happened is, is that Baltimore giving this big contract, and it's only for one year. And then everybody, and everybody's saying, see, I told you. See, I told you. And he just wants to get, he's just like, man, I can do it. I can do it.

He can't see me you know what ocho what they should do since they already will try to do everything go ahead when you get a defensive pass interference give me them yards give me let the receiver have them yards i will stop on y'all you ain't catch it yeah but you gotta got a 15 yard penalty i got a 40 yard penalty now and we're gonna see it because if you owe Odell getting through penalties, he might got 50 yards now. Yeah, yeah. I think I understand where his frustrations are coming

from and I know what's going to happen. I'm not sure who the Ravens play next, but they're going to design plays and what you can do, they're going to design plays to ensure that he touches the ball early. And you know how it is as a receiver. You as a tight end, if you get the ball in your playmaker's hands early, just let him touch it.

It don't have to be none serious. It could be a reverse. It could be a smoke. It could be a quick screen. Just let him touch it, and then you invest it. You invest it into the game the rest of the way. Remember we was having this discussion, I think, just a couple of weeks ago. We was talking about the Ravens and their red zone inefficiencies.

Today they were 4-4 in the red zone. Gus Edwards had himself a day. He had three touchdowns today. And that's – kicking field goals will lose your game. Scoring touchdowns in the red zone will get you in the playoffs and can win you a championship. And the Ravens, to their credit, were sensational once they got that ball into the red zone. And that's what you need to have to have okay let's go to the Miami Dolphins they carve they carve up

the Patriots defense Tyreek Hill becomes the first player in NFL history to have a thousand yards receiving in his first eight games he and Jalen Waddle both go over 100 yards I think if I'm not mistaken that's like the fifth or the sixth time that they've done that in the same game. I mean, what do we say about Tariq? When people, and I'm going to say it again,

and I've said it over and over and over, when we talk about Tariq, when we talk about top five, when we talk about let's stay within this era of football, we talk about the best players, T talk about let's stay within this era of football. We talk about the best players. Tyreek is in his own category. Yeah.

And that's why I always say, and I've been saying it for the past two years, don't ask me to do top five because Tyreek is in a class of his own. And that's with all due respect to all the other players. But it's just unfair. They don't possess what he possesses. Yeah, it's unfair. the combination of speed, size. I mean, the fact that he's small, he can go across the middle. Can you imagine if he was Randy Moss height with that kind of –

But, you know, then he wouldn't be as agile. He wouldn't be as shifty. He wouldn't be able to corner like he does. Yeah, he wouldn't be able to do what he does. So the fact that he is the size he he wouldn't be able to do what he does. So the fact that he is the size he is and he's able to do what he does the same way Randy Moss does as far as being able to take the top off of defenses is

unheard of. Contested catch. Everything. But he's a football player. But see, here's the thing, Ocho. Normally with guys that have that kind of speed, they're frail. They're not football players. He's a football player with track speed.

We've seen track guys try to come to the football. Ronaldo, Nehemiah. Now, the first guy to do it was Bob Hayes. Bob Hayes was the reason why they went to the zone defense. Because before Bob Hayes,

everybody played man. Well, you got the fastest man in the world, and you got a guy that's running 4'6", trying to cover it. That ain't gonna go too well. At it. That ain't gonna go too well. At all. That ain't gonna go too well. So it's like

we gotta find a way to slow him down. So you see the way Bob Hayes was built. Bob Hayes was a football player that had world-class speed. Tyreek Hill, if you see the way he's built, you can tell. I mean, you look at him, you're like,

okay, that's a football player. He's an athlete. But then when you watch him and how he accelerates, I've never seen a guy that can accelerate just like that. Normally, guys have to build up. Tyreek in three steps is at top speed. Top speed. Did you see him take it?

They had him bracketed. They had him bracketed. On that goal ball take they had him bracketed they had him bracketed today on that goalball they got him bracketed but you do realize bracketed is the worst kind of coverage against a goalball because everybody's thinking in and out and he take the top off it and you know the funny thing the last three touchdowns that he's caught deep they had him bracketed yeah they had him bracketed last week too i don't know what the safety doing the safety trying to disguise disguise but if i was a corn i would have been screaming at the car the safety man and. I don't know what the safety doing. The safety trying to disguise. If I was a corner, I would have been screaming at the safety, man. And if you don't get over

and help me. Ocho, but he still got to worry about that run field too though. See, they put him in a bind. They put him in a bind, Ocho. You asking the safety to do an awful lot. Now, if that run come, you got him. You got to get down there. If it don't, you got to get back.

I got to get over. So you got me. I there. If it don't, you got to get back. I got to get over. So you got to be, I'm looking at this, and there's Tyreek at two-step. And two, when he took off, when the guy let, first of all, you can't let him inside, Ocho. You got to. Well, you know what? You can't do that because you sit too far inside. Let's say you play head up. You play half a man inside.

You're done already. There's nothing you can do. You can't play head up, can't play inside, you can't play outside leverage. Either way, he's going to beat you regardless. Ocho, you got to get a hand on him. If you get up there and press coverage, you got to do something, Ocho. Get a hand on who?

Ocho, will you back off him? We'll back off him. Ocho, first of all, if you do realize that if you don't get a hand... You got to run your defense. First of all, if you do realize that if you don't get a hit. You got to run your defense. You got to run your defense. First of all, he going to run past you. But if you up there and press coverage, he's already passed you in one step.

At least make him go like seven to eight steps. And that's the scary part about it is when he plays press, he's so much quicker. He's so twitchy. He's so much quicker than everybody else that's going to get up there and try to press. Yes. You done. You done. You pick your much quicker than everybody else that's going to get up there and try to press. You done. You done. You pick your poison. You play off, he's going to kill you. You play press, he's going to kill you. You know how they need to play him? You know how they play the

gunner? Remember how the gunner got two people to run up? Yeah. The cowboy giving the Megatron treatment. Put two guys... Right. That's the next thing you got to do. That's the only answer. And you know what's funny? If you do that, he's probably going to beat both of them too. Yeah. That's the next thing you got to do. That's the only answer. And you know what's funny? If you do that, he's probably going to beat both of them too. Yeah. That's the bad thing.

Well, now if you're going to play two on one, I'm going to run the ball. I'm going to throw the ball to the other side of the field. Yeah. Because I already know you got two guys out of position. He's averaging basically 127 yards per game. He's on pace to have 2,155 yards, which would shatter Calvin Johnson's Megatron's record. He'd be the first NFL, he'd be the first

player to ever have 2,000 yards in receiving. Have 2,000 yards in receiving in a single season. That's crazy. I'm knocking on wood hoping he stay healthy because I want to see it. Oh, he's going to stay healthy. You know why he's going to stay healthy? He eat the same

food I eat. Yeah, he's going to stay healthy. You know why he's going to stay healthy? He eat the same food I eat. Yeah, he's going to be healthy. He definitely eats some bull jive. He does. Yeah. He's on my podcast and he's eating Cheetos and talking about how his mom be cooking sausages and pancakes and grits. I have a question. I'm not

good. Well, I'm not a math major, but if he has over 1,000 yards now in week eight at what point will he cross the 2000 mark what point you think probably uh at this pace probably week 15 week 15 yeah nah he gotta cross he gonna cross it before that well he's on pace to average 21 55 so he's averaging so that'll be 250 120 a game right 127 so that's that's 254 so he's on pace to get to get a uh 21 55 so yeah he's on pace oh Oh, that's crazy. He is.

Listen, I'm thinking we used to be happy back in the day, you know, doing I.O.S. a little different. Well, you hit 1,000 yards. Boy, you feeling good. Yeah. A receiver, if you could get a receiver, basically, if you got 1,300 yards or 13, once you cross 1,300, you start getting to 1,500. Boy, you the real A. Oh, man. Boy, you the real deal. You real, real. once you cross 1300 you start getting to 1500 oh man

oh you the real deal you real real yeah and then you know you had a couple of guys get to 16 and then you know I think Jerry was the first guy that I remember had 1800 in a season and then here come Megatron had

1900 in a season I think Julio had 19 also in a season. But Tyreek, I mean, the guy after leaving, but you know what? He needed to be, he would have never done this in Andy Reid's system for the simple fact he got Trav. And Trav is going to,

see, he's going to get the lion's share of the targets here. Trav was going to probably get, he and Trav was going to be close. So Trav was probably going to get the lion's share of the targets here. Trav was going to probably get – he and Trav was going to be close. So Trav was probably going to get 170, 180. He was going to get somewhere between 150 and 160 – I mean 140, 160. So it was going to be hard for him to get the targets in that number. But, man, what he's been able to do and the way he's turned himself into a legit – because remember, Ocho, when he first came in,

they just used him on punt and kick returns and a little gadget guy. Right. But he said, but he said, I can, I can, I can run, I'm going to teach myself how to run the tree. All that. And now? He can do everything. And he does it so fast.

In a class of his own. He definitely is. And I'm excited. You know, next week, they're in Germany. Yeah. They play the Chiefs. They got the Chiefs. And listen,

with the way the Chiefs played today. Man, you know Tyreek. And you know what the Chiefs like to do offensively on defense, huh? They can't play that. Right in your face. No, that ain't, that ain't,

that ain't gonna, he'll have, he'll have, well, I tell you what. You ask me, when will he go over, when will he go over 2,000? If they read your, he'll have, he'll have, right in your face. I tell you what, you ask me, when will he go over, when will he go over 2,000? If they play him,

he'll go over 2,000 in week 13 because he's going to have 300 next week. There's no way, there's no way to stop him. There's no way to stop him and I know he's upset.

So think about how, think about what he's thinking about coming up this week playing against the Chiefs. Well, you didn't want to pay me or you felt you could do it without me.

Let me show you what to have. He might have 300. At that point, I've got a ring. Go get that money, bro. Right, right, right. Go get that money. Bro, you can't eat them rings. You can't sleep in them.

Go. Now you get an opportunity. Your kids' kids, kids can be set. Man, that's what I, look, you gotta look, I get it. You know, in certain situations, you know, like a Brady or some guys like that, okay.

But Tyreek, man, go get that money, bro. Don't be bitter because they wouldn't because they weren't going to give you the money that Miami gave you and they gave you more up front and you in warm weather and you no taxes, brother ain't no taxes

do you know how much money you keeping yeah hell it's 6-8% everywhere taxed California is 12% state taxed you get no state tax so you getting damn near all your money. Every dollar. Hey, man.

I know you saw this, man. I feel bad for First Cousin. He tore his Achilles. First Cousin. Kirk Cousin. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, no contact either. And that's normally what happens with Achilles. And you can tell he started harping i mean when they showed went

back and showed his lower leg and you could just see it you see it give like that uh man i just feel so bad i just feel so bad i just hate guys having to deal because that's that's a tough injury to overcome especially cousins in his 30s but you look at their you know what are they gonna do you know you hear you know, possibly maybe trade for Kyler, who's coming off an ACL injury. Because if you look at their schedule, they got some game. They could go on a streak here. They're going to get JJ back, Justin Jefferson back,

probably in the next probably three weeks or so. I mean, they were on a streak, if I'm not mistaken. They won the last two, maybe last three. I'm not sure. Correct me if I'm wrong. But they won the last three. And the fact that he went down and you got Justin coming back in maybe a week, maybe three, and the games that are coming up are winnable.

But now your quarterback situation is shaky. And you got Jordan Addison playing out this world. Yeah, KJ Osborne. Jordan Addison is playing out this world. Addison, Osborne, Hawkinson. Man, they got something. All you have to do is fix the quarterback situation, and that's the hard part because where do you go?

Who do you go get? I saw a tweet today that I put the eyes behind it. Somebody said, how about y'all call Brady, tell Brady to come out of retirement. Brady done. Hey, Ocho, you know, you know, like, you done because at this point,

Brady, Brady has already started not wanting to take those licks. And you know how it is, Ocho. Once you go after that, because you got to retrain your body all over again, even when you take

an off season off. You got to all of a sudden get your spidey senses tingling to know where contact's coming. Okay, to all of a sudden get your spidey senses tingling to know where contact's coming. Okay, if I caught a pass, I knew the coverage I caught it in, I knew it was a danger. Am I going to get side swiped? Am I going to

get hit on? Or am I going to get hit from the back? Based on the coverage that I got the ball thrown to me. Bruh, you lose that when you don't use that. And as you get older, Ocho, man, God can hit me. Man, I jump up out the ground.

Man, that ain't hurt. Man, I got to be like year 11, year 12. Man, I start putting that blink on. Winkle, winkle, hit right on the bottom down. Hey, you ain't been hit, bro. I can't take that. What you put on, the blinker? I put that blink on.

Winkle, winkle. All right. Right on the bottom down, Ocho. I ain't going to. What you put on, a blinker? I put that blink on. Blinker, blinker. Hard right. Right on the bottom of my own, don't you? I ain't gonna lie to you, cuz. Ay. Ay, don't link down to that. No, bro. I couldn't.

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Please do. obviously I stole, I stole what I like to call making business decisions from Torrey Holt and Isaac Bruce. Oh yeah, they did. Man, man, catch it, man, get down.

I ain't taking no punishment. Man, they pulled a turf over them. They were like, they were taking a, they like, hell, they pulled that turf over,

like they was in the band, like you pulling the sheets over you. Yeah, but listen, I stole that from them, man. T-Holt my dog though. A big, he,

he a good, a good dude. I mean, but at some point, you got to make decisions like that. Everything, you can't keep taking on collision. Listen, everybody is tough to a certain degree. You can't play this game. Even in today's game, you can't play it without a certain level

of toughness. Now, some guys are tougher than others, but at that point in time, you know, I got to think about it. Nah, I ain't going to prove my toughness on this play. I'll literally see another day. I will get you when you're not suspecting I'm going to be tough. You got this one.

Nah, I catch you slipping, I'm going to drop my shoulder on you. I'm dropping. That's basically what I did to Ring. Oh boy, that was the worst decision you ever could have made. Ocho, we got 18,000 watching us live. What? Please, please make sure you click that subscribe button.

Guys, you don't understand how thankful we are for you tuning in. We know it's really late on the East Coast. Wherever you're listening and watching us from, we really, really thank you. 18,000 watching us live. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Make sure you tell your family and friends to hit that subscribe button. Ocho, you know we're over 200,000 in just three weeks.

Yeah, we 200K, bro. We going. We moving places. You know, I go. We trying to get to half a million by the end of the year or better. As a matter of fact, get us the three quarters. Get a million. A million by the end of the year or better. As a matter of fact, get us the three quarters. A million? A million by the end of the year.

Okay, that's our goal. A million by the end of the year. That's awesome, man. 18,000 people watching. If y'all can see me live, I love y'all, man. I appreciate you from the bottom of my heart. Me and Unc, man. For real, I'm not going to get emotional. I promise I'm not going to cry, but man, I thank you. I love y'all and appreciate y'k, man, like for real, I'm not going to get emotional. I promise I'm not going to cry.

But, man, I thank you. I love y'all and appreciate y'all, man. Let's go. Ocho, I don't know if you saw this tonight, but the Bucks, the Milwaukee Bucks playing the Atlanta Hawks, had Flavor Flav sing the national anthem. Nah. That's what I said.

Wait, Flavor Flav, Flavor Flav? Flavor Flav, Flavor Flav! Yeah, boy! Big Clark Flavor Flav? Yeah. And then the Bucks had a nerve to like have it, you know, the caption, they put it to my, yeah, boy. I said, no, boy.

Oh, no. Wait, how do you sound though? It was that bad? Hold on. Have you ever heard carl you did you were young 93 carl lewis sung the national anthem at the next bulls game right rosanne bar arnold i think you go by bar now was it rosanne i remember rosanne she funny. I don't know if they had Flavor Flav, bro. I mean, he up there. Fergie?

You remember? No. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Yo. Mm-mm. Wait, hold on. You remember when they

remixed Fergie thing? Fergie remixed Fergie thing. Fergie. But here's the thing, Ocho. You have to understand. You can't use auto-tunes and sing the national anthem. Right, right, right. So that's that's your natural it's not as easy

as you think and what people have tried to do is that Marvin Gaye sung it I think it was game two of the NBA finals against the Lakers

no NBA All-Star NBA All-Star 1984 okay he sung it and then Whitney had it and so everybody see everybody is trying to everybody's trying to win the Grammy Okay. I even know the date. And then Whitney had it.

And so everybody's trying to win the Grammy of singing that. Bro, just go up there and sing it and just keep it moving because you're going to mess it up. Marvin Gaye's rendition of the Star Spangled Banner at the NBA All-Star Game in 84, I think it's either 84 or 85, and Whitney Houston will supersede anything that's ever done. But now the fact that you said the Bucs allowed Flava Flav

to sing the national anthem, I need the Bengals to step up to the plate. And do what? I need the Bengals, Mike Brown, Troy, Katie, I know y'all gonna see this. Elizabeth, if y'all see this,

please allow me to come in at some point this season and sing the national anthem. Let him come in and talk to the team, but do not let that man get in front of no microphone. Let me sing for you real quick. Let me start it off real quick.

And you're gonna be like, oh my God, Ocho, I didn't know you could sing. A quick story for you. I'm glad you said that. Quick story for you because you're not gonna believe me. Listen, everybody watching.

We got 18,000 people watching. Listen to me. I promise you. I promise you. I promise you. So remember the Coca-Cola commercial years ago with Tyrese? With Tyrese, yeah. Getting on the bus? Yeah.

I auditioned for that. Let me tell you why Tyrese got it, though. Because he can sing better than you. No, no. He can't sing better than me. I had won the audition, right? I had won the audition, right? But boom, this is back when I was at Santa Monica College. So when they called me back, I didn't answer the phone because I had practice. And they ended up giving it to Tyrese, so he got the role. But the fact that I could sing so well back then, that's what Tyrese took off he took off after that yeah he took off after that and I went the football

route but if I could have been I'm really I was really a singer first you uh you dark skin I was a singer you and uh Tyrese dark skin y'all got bald heads that's right that's it I'm just saying listen it came down to us the Coca-Cola it came down to me

and him and he the real did I look up to him it I'm just saying listen it came down to us the Coca-Cola it came down to me and him and he the real deal I look up to him because I'm like damn and he was on Martin I'm like

god damn he played a piano and sing just like me but I chose I chose the football route that's crazy it's crazy how God worked man

let me hear let me hear something give me a little something you ready yep tell me what song you want me tell me what song

you're going to sing the national anthem, so let's start with that one. Oh, say can you see... We good. We good. See, you done hit that Carl Lewis

already. How was that? Whoa, whoa, whoa. I ain't even had no peppermint tea. That was right off the cuff. That was right off the cuff. I'm not even prepared. You just told me to sing. That was bad? I don't even had no peppermint tea. That was right off the cuff. That was right off the cuff. I'm not even prepared. You just told me to sing. That was bad? I don't care.

Right off the cuff, the tea, the crease. That was bad. Hold on. Give me a minute. Give me a minute. Give me a minute. Hold on. Give me a minute.

Give me a minute. La, la, la, la, la, la. Give me a minute. Nah, don't hit that mini-repertory. No, no, no. Me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Okay, I'm ready. You ready?

Yes. Watch this. Stay with me now. Stay with me. Oh, say, can you see? See, everybody can't hit that C. Everybody can't hit that C. See, by the dawn's early light.

Oh, Lord, that birthday. That's bad. I need some peppermint tea after this. I need some, I need some Bailey's.

What's so proud? I got a cold too. That's why I sound like that. Ocho. Ocho. I just told you. But you see, you see the potential though.

You see the potential. No, no, no, no, no. I see a lot of potential, a lot of things Ocho. I just told you. But you see the potential, though. You see the potential. No, no, no, no, no. I see a lot of potential in a lot of things, Ocho. But that singing, Ocho, that's not an easy song to sing. It's not. Because you have to elevate and lower your... Right, right.

You got to have range. Yes! You got to be... You got to have that Christina Aguilera, Mariahy that um that adele that jennifer hudson you got you got to be able to come here and take it okay what singer would you like to hear sing the national anthem so if they said okay okay ocho we're gonna give you a vote who would you like to sing an an allegiant stadium in uh las vegas super Yes. Stop playing with me. Give me Kiki

Wyatt. Okay. Girl, give me Kiki Wyatt or Jasmine Sullivan. Okay. Okay. I can do it. Or Jennifer Hudson. Okay. Listen, take me to church with it, please. Take me. Lord, have mercy.

Boy, give me Jasmine Sullivan or Kiki Wyatt. Listen, I told, I told, I told Real, listen, you know, I ain't getting married unless Kiki Wyatt sing at the wedding. Well, are you paying for it? Who? Yeah. But that's one thing I would pay for. Kiki Wyatt, Jasmine Sullivan, Fantasia. Who else? I'm leaving somebody out.

Could Adele sing the national anthem even though she's not American? Yeah, yeah, she can. Listen, her voice, her voice, and I haven't seen her live. You've seen her live. I haven't seen her live. I'm just talking about from what I've seen

from the music I've listened to. Yeah. And people telling me and raving about her. I was just in Vegas, you know, doing some work this past weekend. And everybody, they watched the show. Everybody watching the song. Everybody watches. Yeah, they're watching it.

Hey, you in town, make sure you go see Adele. And they raving about how she sounds in person. Yeah. She's unbelievable. I say it like that. And they're like, man, listen, words can't describe how she sounds in person. You have to say it's like that. And they're like, man, listen, words can't describe how she sounds in person. You have to experience it.

You got to see it. You got to hear it. You got to hear it. You got to hear it. And the fact that I was in Vegas, but I couldn't do it because the work I was doing was when the show was,

that night. I, uh, I will, uh, I definitely will probably go back and see her again before she leaves. Damn. I'm going to see Usher too. Yeah. I'm going to see Usher too.

Yeah, I'm going to see Usher too. That Usher, the real deal. He is. He the real deal. Okay, let's get to Coach Prime. They lost to UCLA and they asked him about, he said, the big picture, you get new linemen.

That's the picture and I'm going to paint it perfectly for it. Shador was sacked seven times, hit 17 other times, and knocked down 13 times. Damn. They said DeBruin sacked him five times in the first half, leading to him getting a painkilling injection

at the half. You told me that it's all about, it's about delivery. Right. Did you like Coach Prime's delivery? Because normally Coach says, look, we're going to have to get better

in certain areas, obviously. It's not where we should be, but the guys are battling. The guys are working hard. I watch them come to practice every day, work their tails off. We'll get it fixed. We're going to coach them up.

We'll coach them a little better. They'll play a little better. Cole Prime, as a matter of fact, the picture is we're going to get a new line. Yeah. Did you like that presentation? Prime has always been unapologetically himself since he's arrived. The players in that locker room, they know who he is. He hasn't changed.

He hasn't wavered. He stayed true to himself and his coaching style, which differs from everyone else, obviously. Prime says some of the things that others think. He just says them aloud. He has an approach. He has a way that he wants to run his show, and he's running it that way.

What he's done for that program in such a short amount of time is unbelievable. Yeah. And he said, I need six or eight more dogs. Yeah. And the six or eight more dogs that he was talking about is the interior, the offensive line and the defensive line. He's going to get them.

Yeah. After the battle, when it comes to college football, it's all about the interior line. O-line and D-line, interior. Bingo. And that's the only thing that separates Power 5 schools to your HBCUs, to your other small division schools,

is the interior linemen. Look at the Georgia Bulldogs. How many D-linemen and O-linemen they put into the league? Look at Bama. How many O-line and O-line were they putting to the league? Look at Bama. How many O-line and D-line were they putting to the league? Go look at the SEC. Every year, the SEC and the Big Ten, they lead. They got them hogs, man.

You got to have your A. They got them hogs, man. Prime going to get them now. Prime going to get them. Because half of the battle is not, I was getting ready to say drafting, not drafting. Recruiting. It's recruiting. Yeah. Half of the battle is not, I was getting ready to say drafting, not drafting. Recruiting.

It's recruiting. Yeah. See, the thing is about the portal, it's easy to go in the portal. Guys don't want to recruit anymore because guys that's in the portal, we already got film on them playing college. We already know they go to class, how they're going to do it. So I've already got a head start. So now I go, okay, this guy really, really fit my program.

I like him. So I think you're going to probably see until they get a handle on it what they're going to actually do with the portal. I think you're going to see more teams going that way. They're still going to recruit the high school athletes. That's not going away. Well, I don't think not very many though, right? Not very many because you have to be special to be able to come in and actually contribute going away. Well, I don't think not very many though. Right. Not, not very many, not very many. Cause you have to be special to be able to come in and actually contribute right away.

I don't think players want to want to come in and sit down. Well, I got to wait three years before I play. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, it is, it's very interesting to see,

but I'm, I'm, I'm surprised because here's the thing that I, that I'm afraid of is I don't want the guys to like, well, you feel that way. Hell, I ain't going to block no more. I ain't want the guys to like, well, you feel that way, hell, I ain't going to block no more. I ain't going to do nothing the rest of the year.

You know what I'm saying? Nah, they won't do that. They won't do that. They respond and they will respond well based on what he said. They're going to respond well. They're not the type of kids to shut down. Man, I just want him to beat Stanford

because that way if he the one beating Stanford, in one more game, he's bowling eligible. We could have gone bowling. Yo, I just want him to beat Stanford because that way, if he didn't want to beat Stanford, it went one more game, he's bowl eligible. We could have gone bowling. Yo, for real? Yeah. All you need is six wins. Oh, that'd be beautiful, man. That'd be.

That'd be beautiful. We're going to end on this one. Tyson Fury beats Francis Ngannou by a split decision. Was Francis Ngannou wrong? You know good man. That was

with no mask on. He was robbed with no mask on. Listen, you know how much I love boxing. You know how much I love boxing. I have submerged myself in it. Obviously, since I was young, stepping in the ring and doing it

not at the highest level, but just doing it. Dude, that was a robbery. That was a robbery. And if you watch the tweets of some of the boxers, some of the best in the world, that say it was an embarrassment to boxing. It was. If you are the heavyweight king,

if you are the heavyweight king, you do not allow somebody to come into your sport that is not familiar with your sport. He's familiar with combat sports, but not boxing yeah to come in and look that polished look that sharp and out class and out box you you just you can't it looked like it was it was an embarrassment to boxing from what the peers have said when i look when, when I watch and I look at Tyson Fury, it looks to me that he didn't take it serious. He didn't train.

No. And he didn't train. He always looks like that. Yeah, he's always going to look like a garment bag. I mean, you know, he ain't got no shape to him. I just look. Come on. So he built how he built.

Right, right. But I agree with you, Ocho, for an outsider, and that's what Francis Ngannou is. He's an outsider. To come in and look that good. And you talk about this guy is the heavyweight champion

of the world. And everybody that he's gotten in the ring with over the last, he smoked them. And Francis Ngannou won this fight. He won this fight. I don't knowou won this fight. He won this fight. I don't know what the judges saw.

I don't care if you just and you know I know the judges don't go by crowd reaction but Francis Ngannou landed the cleaner punches.

He was the aggressor in the fight. And a knockdown. Yes. And a knockdown. But I think I don't think they wanted to set a precedent.

I don't think they wanted to set a precedent of having a MMA fighter with no boxing background or boxing experience. He has combat experience. Yeah, that's totally different, though. He came in and beat the heavyweight champ of the world, and it messed up everything else that Fury and Usyk, you know, they're supposed to fight sometime in December.

It messes everything up. And I think they wanted to protect all that other stuff. And just, I mean it was ridiculous it's ridiculous and there have been some other decisions in boxing that have been questionable and this just goes down as just a total embarrassment

yeah this was bad and I know this is probably you don't remember this this was as bad as when Roy Jones got robbed at the Olympics when Floyd Mayweather got robbed at the Olympics this was like Mayweather got robbed at the Olympics. This was like that. This was like, this is bad. This is bad.

As a matter of fact, those losses for Roy, that loss for Floyd might have been more impactful than it was if they had lost. Well, that was the last time Floyd ever lost. That might have been more impactful than anything. The last time he ever lost a fight. He lost since, yep. Well, thank you guys ever lost a fight. We lost since, yeah. Well, thank you guys for 18,000.

We had 18,000. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Come on, man. Where we going now? What we doing? We had 18,000, Ocho. But I don't even know 18,000 people. I know my baby.

Anybody that know me personally, if y'all watching, I love y'all. I appreciate you. Baby, I know my baby. My baby probably what my kids watching. I know my kids watching y'all in college love y'all I appreciate you baby I know my baby probably what my kids watching I know my kids watching y'all in college make sure you do your homework too I'm gonna call your professor and make sure

you tell your friends your kids tell their friends to subscribe to this channel tell your friends your aunties and your uncles 18,000 we gotta go we trying to hit a milli we trying to hit a milli. We're trying to hit a milli by the end. By December.

By Christmas. December 31st. We're going to need to be as close as we possibly can to a milli. What a friend we have indeed. Yeah, I wish I had a friend that could sing. I don't, unfortunately. Listen, I used to lead the choir as a little kid at Mount Olivet Baptist Church

in Overtown, now. Don't do me like that. Bro, you had three members. Oh, at Mount Olivet? Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Reverend Clark ain't play that.

We had a membership. We had about about 3,500 people. Yeah, we had... We ain't had church. We had church. It's500 people. Yeah. We had, we had, we had, we had church. We had church. Yeah. Well,

we tried to get, we tried to get our goal. Oh, Joe, let's, let's, a modest goal. Our goal is to hit by the end of November.

Right. We had half a million. Well, what month we in? We bought it. We bought it. We are August. This is October the 30th tomorrow.

Oh, shit. It's the 30th tomorrow. Oh, shit. It's the 30th? Tomorrow. I ain't even paid my, I ain't even paid my mortgage this month. Shit. Don't worry about it. They'll let you go about two or three months before they come and put, put chains on it.

They'll let you, they'll let you go a couple of months before. But then your credit, but then your credit score, then your credit score gonna suffer that. You be laying on paper, your credit score. You don't want your credit to go that deep. I ain't finna play with my credit score. I ain't playing with that. Every time I hit a question, and I want to ask you this for people that are watching, because I see it on Twitter all the time. There's always a question.

800 credit score, or just say $500,000. What you taking? Well, the best credit... 500,000 or 800 credit score. But see, I'm not the right person to ask that. You or I are not the right person because we financially, we straight. What you gonna say, though?

If I was an average person, I would take the 500 grand. I knew you was gonna say that i knew no say you us what you're gonna take oh me i'm taking 850 credit score okay okay okay we don't have to get into the details of why that's a whole nother topic yeah that's i mean credit once you reach a certain level i don't think credit is everything I don't think people understand that. It's everything. I don't think they understand that, though.

Because everybody on Twitter, I'm taking the money, I'm taking the money, I'm taking the money, but I'm looking at it from a different perspective, from a different lens. But you have to understand, Ocho, you can't, I mean, yeah, 500,000 of them is different because we're going to try to go get something worth

10 million, 15 million. 500 ain't going to do nothing. That man ain't going to look at their credit scores. He're going to try to go get something worth 10 million, 15 million. 500 ain't going to do nothing. That man going to look at their credit scores. He going to look at if you ever been bankrupt, have you ever walked out on anything? Right, right, right. Like you said, we'll talk about that another day. But I don't care what my credit score is.

834. You 834? Hey, you heard that? I thought I said that. I don't care what my credits go here. 834. You 834? Hey, you heard that? I thought I said that. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You in the eights for real? I'm in the eights too.

I'm not even going to tell you no lie. You want to know why I'm in the eights? No, I'm serious. Let me take my glasses off so you know I'm not bullshitting. I'm not going to tell you no lie. You know I always preach to you about getting certain people in your life that can give you a little guidance and a little instruction.

I'm in the eights. Real got me in the eights. Yeah. She got me in the eights. You got me in the eights. Helped me out with a little credit. I didn't even know what no goddamn credit line was.

Helped me out with a little credit line. Yeah. I ain't even had no debt. I ain't even had no debt. But see, that's the thing. You got to have a little debt. Listen, it's. Yeah. I ain't even had no debt. I ain't even had no debt. But see, that's the thing. You got to have a little debt. Listen, it's a game. I ain't had none.

You got to. I'm thinking I'm beating the system. Do not. I think I'm beating the system being cheap, not having no debt, not having no credit cards. I think I'm beating the system. No.

No, we get together about three, four years ago. And, you know, she helped me like, you know, I want to get, I want to, I want to, I want to get some, but what's your credit look like? My who?

Man, she done built me shit up till eight, 12. Yeah. That's what, that's what I'm telling you. See, stuff like that.

When I really came out here, Ocho. Yeah. The guy didn't want to, I had to, you know, I had to get a place rather quickly because I got the job and I had to get out here. The guy didn't want to give me the place. He's like,

there's something wrong. I was like, what do you mean? There's something wrong. Right. He says, you got an eight 50 credit score. And the only thing that you own is a house. I said, why the hell do I need like 15 houses? Just because I got great credit. He said, because everybody has great credit. They have multiple deaths, multiple that I say, well, I ain't them people. I live with them. I mean, I ain't trying to impress nobody. Right. Right. So man, multiple that. I say, well, I ain't them people. I live within my means. I ain't trying to impress nobody. Right, right. So, man,

and you know when they run your credit, it dings it. Yeah. Man, you done done. Go down. Man, I knock my credit down to like 770. It's a game. It's a game that I don't, it's a game of discipline that I don't like. I'm gonna get this condo now. You done ding

me down this right here, you gonna give me this condo here, you won't give me about 500,000. You don't ding my credit. Kept running my credit like something was wrong. Why is the system rigged like that? I don't know, Ocho. I don't know. I don't. I don't. That's another topic. Another topic. But you know what, Ocho? We just hit 205,000 followers, subscribers, excuse me, 205,000 subscribers. We got 200, nah, yeah, we got 295 to go to reach our goal of 500,000

by the end of November. And then we got another half a million to go to hit our goal by the end of December. So guys, thank you for watching us live. Thank you, man. Thanks for tuning in for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite unc,

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