Nightcap - Nightcap NBA Playoff Recap - Part 2: NBA Trash Talk + Will Grizzlies trade Ja Morant?

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the NBA Playoffs, including Ja Morant and the Memphis Grizzlies being eliminated from the playoffs by Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and the Oklahoma City Thunder, Draymond Green and Jalen Green’s mid-game altercation, and much more!01:41 - Lakers vs. Timberwolves39:33 - Draymond Green and JalenGreen43:48 - OKC beats the Grizzlies; what's next for Ja?(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Volume. One of the two most interesting games today, and this is the game the chat's been begging us to talk about, the Lakers. Lose a close one at Minnesota. They have a 10-point lead going into the fourth quarter, but Ant-Man

went berserk. He scored 16 of his game-high 43 points as they outscored the Lakers 32-19. Lakers shot just 5 of 18 in the fourth, including 3 of nine in the last five minutes.

LeBron legs. I text Ash this, and I text this early. I say, it looks like JJ is going to roll with these guys the entire second half. I say, you talk about 46 minutes for LeBron on 40-year-old legs. You talk about Luka, 45 and a half minutes. You're talking about Rui and Doe and A.R. I say that's a lot of wear and tear. I say it's going to be very, very interesting.

If this game comes down to the last three, four, five minutes, it's going to be very interesting if the Lakers can hold up. And you see LeBron took two shots in the fourth quarter. He had zero points in the fourth quarter. He's exhausted. I think it's the first time in, what, 20 years that nobody subbed

for the Lakers in the second half of a ball game. Everybody that started the game played 24 minutes of a possible 24 minutes. And now I'm concerned because I don't know

how the Lakers play better. You got 23 points on 9 of 16 shooting from Roy, 5 of 10, 23 points. You got LeBron, 27 points of 15 to 18 from the free throw line. He had 27, 12, 8, 3 steals, 3 blocks. Okay, you got Luka. Played, yeah, you're 38, 7 of 7 from the free throw line.

He only had one rebound, two assists. They turned him into a score. You can live with that. I just don't want him to get 38 and 12 in assists total. You got A.R. He scored, he only scored 17, but he got all of those in the second half.

The bench gave him six points. And I think that was the difference in the ball game because their bench gave him 20 points. Nas Reed gave you 12 points. Devin Chimzo gave you eight points. And Nikhil Alexander-Walker gave you 5 points. But it was Ant-Man and Drew Randle

that really was... And McDaniel's been playing unbelievable. I don't know where this guy came from, but he's been sensational in the postseason. Ant-Man did what a superstar's supposed to do, GP. Well, Shannon Daniels is a defense stopper. He Well, Shannon, Daniels is a

defensive stopper. He plays like that, but he gives you more. I'm going to compare Daniels to my son. They give you everything they have to do to win basketball games. Not just defense. When they start scoring and they do

special stuff, their team is going to win. We're going to go back to that, Chad. Listen to what going to win. We're going to go back to that, Chad. Listen to what I'm saying. We're going to go back to what Shannon just said. Why do you think Minnesota won? First of all, the Lakers can't play defense. They have no defense at all. You feel me? That's just

a bad thing. And they need a big to protect the rim once they get beaten. They don't have that. Absolutely. So now what happened was is that that man got busy. They don't have that. Absolutely. So now what happened was is that that man got busy. So let me tell you about this. What should you do about a guy who gets hot? Double.

Get the ball out of his hand and make somebody else be special. But what do you know what they did? Minnesota got other people to come off the bench and be special and make shots. See, that's a difference. I was at my son's game last night and they were beating up

Curry for a long time. I kept saying, get him off the ball. Stop having him be on the ball so they can double him every time. And then they finally listened and started getting him at the bottom and he started coming off picks. But when they started doubling him and all of a sudden, who started getting busy?

My son and other people. And they beat him. You know what I'm saying? You have to have a cast to support you. That's what the game is about. It ain't about superstars. Now, when this playoff comes, it ain't about superstars down there. When this playoff comes, it ain't about superstars. It's about who's going to support my superstar

to get me to win basketball games. And the teams who are winning now are a cast that supports their superstars. So when they superstars get to start going, reason why Edwards got busy today

because he was one-on-one with everybody. And ain't busy today because he was one-on-one with everybody. And ain't nobody gonna stop him one-on-one. If you start doubling on him and doubling him and everybody else and not making shots, you're not gonna win games. It's not gonna happen. So when you start doing that, what's it gonna do?

If my superstar passing the ball and my other supporters start making buckets, then what the coach is going to start saying? Man, don't leave him. Don't leave him. We can't do it.

But when your superstar go one-on-one, it's hard to guard a superstar. One-on-one. Ain't nobody going to guard nobody and stop nobody one-on-one. Is it like with you, Chad? And with you, Chad?

And they got single couples on y'all. I mean, y'all getting y'all. I mean, y'all getting y'all, that, that, that, that is like, uh, uh, fifth grease.

Y'all, uh, I mean, like, uh, going out there and picking something. Boy, I'm gonna kill y'all every time I see y'all. One-on-one, I'm gonna get everything

on y'all. So then y'all gotta get done. Then who we gonna go to next? We're gonna go to those men and we're gonna start killing them. That's how the game goes. And if you don't have that supportive cast, it's

not going to work. It's not going to work in this league right now because these dudes are too athletic and they can get it. So that's who are winning games now because they're athletic and they not make, they're making

shots and our superstars don't have to work as hard as they do. Very. Hey, and GP, when I looked at the next game, obviously watching the Lakers play with Luca having a good game and

doing what he did, LeBron doing what he did early in the game and they had contributions from everybody else obviously the bench didn't score and support the top the big their big three as you so want to call it in a sense but the wolves having 20 off the bench and then having goddamn ant-man go crazy tonight with 43, you know, 9 and 6. You know, that's what he's supposed to do. And you can't say or have a reason. We know LeBron is 40.

You know, we understand that. He's still playing the game, especially in a time like this. It ain't no time to come here. It ain't no time. You can't come out. You've got to play the whole game, but you have to contribute more in that time, in crunch time, in order for your team to win. You got to. Legs tired.

Legs feeling good. It don't matter. That's just what it is. Well, well, well, well, well, Chad, Chad, Chad, they don't do nothing anyway. They don't practice. They don't do nothing. They ain't tired. You know what I'm saying?

And what I tell y'all is, is, Charlie, he might be 40, but he's still doing what he do in his league. When you do what you do in his league and don't get no support and everybody keep focusing on you and beating you down, you're going to get tightened. Yes.

You ain't got no support from nobody who making shots to free me up, then that's going to happen. Both of them can have 38, 27, whatever they want to, but at the end, if ain't nobody doing nothing but us two, all we got to do is focus on you two.

And then what's going to happen? You two ain't, my other people ain't doing no cash. You see me off the bench and have support. So when it got time for the crucial time, you can't go and double Edwards because I'm worried about these dudes off the bench.

Worried about you, Junior Brando. Worried about Nas Reed. I'm worried about McDaniels. I'm worried about even Kenzo. And Reed made a big three at the end. Three made it two of them, you're right, and busted them. So now, am I worried about him?

Yes, I'm worried about him. So I can't go and say, no, I ain't going to try to guard him because he's going to make shots. So that's freed up everybody. And with LeBron and Luka, you can't say that. It ain't going to work like that. We can just go and double them and hope that when they go to this other player, he's going to miss shots.

And what did the Lakers do? They missed shots. LeBron had several points in the fourth quarter. Luka had one rebound, two assists. It's his fewest rebounds and assists ever in a playoff game. The bench, Nas Reed had 12. Devin Chinzo had six, Lakers, excuse me, Devin Chinzo had eight, and the Lakers had six.

And so it seems to me that they were like, you know what, we're content. We're going to make you, we'll let you score. But what we're not going to do is let you get 38 and eight assists, 38 and 10 assists, because now the others are involved. And that played right into their hands. You see, and you look at Ant-Man, what did Ant-Man have today?

Ant-Man had 43 and six assists. You see, he got others involved. If you see assists, people are like, well, why he didn't have no assists? Well, I would have had a double digits in assists if God could have made shots. Luka smoked two layups. LeBron smoked the layup.

Austin Reeves smoked the layup. When you're playing a team like this, you have to cash in on every opportunity. Every opportunity. And then, Chad, let's make another case for this. Look at the Denver game yesterday against the Clippers. You see the Joker. He was killing, right? They all tried to go and go at him.

On the last second, 99-99, he go and take a fadeaway three. They worried about him. Everybody worried about him. And then the air ball. And who make the final dunk to win the game? Aaron Gordon. Okay. So that's what I'm trying to tell y'all.

We got to understand that other role players got to be that type of guy. Man, with this Denver stuff, that's what it is. And he lined up with, what, 30-something, 20-something rebounds, eight or nine assists, man, two. Yeah, he had like 36, 21 and eight. Yeah. 8-9, a fierce man, too. Yeah, he had like 36-21-8. Yeah, and that's what it's all about. Your role players have to be with you in this day of era, in this basketball game, to win basketball games.

Check this stat out. GP, check this stat out. Nas Reed, in the fourth quarter of this series, has 26 points. He's 9- 10 in field goal. He's 6 of 6 from 3 in clutch. The last five minutes of the ballgame, Ocho, the game is within five points. That's what they consider clutch time.

He's 6 of 6 from the 3 in clutch situation. He's 9 of 10 for the floor with 26 points. I mean, you talk about Jordan, you talk about Colby, whomever. They've never been like this. You talk about a guy that's missed one shot. He's perfect from the three. And that's what we're talking about also

here, man. These type of dudes you have to have on your team. You remember the Lakers had Robert Horry who did a certain thing you know what I'm saying big shot at the big shot big shot at the big shot

you want a guy and I tell people as I coach now in junior college I say you want to be on the floor with six minutes you're the closer I want you to make big shots. For with him and Reed, what was he last year?

Sixth man of the year. Yep. You feel what I'm saying? He coming in and making these big time shots. And that's what you want from these dudes. And that's the way you're going to win championships. That's the only way you're going to win championships in this NBA. Okay.

Well, listen, now that we got all that good stuff out the way, let's talk about the meat and potatoes of this series and what's going on. Right now, the Lakers are down 3-1. And GP, GP, you could probably attest to this and have a better answer, but I'm sure, Unc, you probably know as well, being that your knowledge and acumen of the game of basketball is good. Do you see any scenario at all, any type of magical situation? They're going seven, Ocho. GP, I see GP shaking his head.

They're going seven. Oh, wait, wait, wait. So you still feel there's a possibility that the Lakers are going back down? Shannon, stop it. Man, you can bet a dinner on this. Bet it. Bet it. Run it.

I'll run it. Run it. Any way you want to go, it. I'll run it. Run it. Any way you want to go, man. I'll get it. I'm with that. Dinner? No way. That's it.

Don't beat them three in a row. Ain't no way. You're going seven games. No, they're not. You're going seven. Guess what? We got to see the problem that JJ ran into is that LeBron had just played 38, 40 minutes a night ago. And then you follow that up.

Now, the best thing about this, they don't play again until Wednesday. So LeBron get an extra day. Luka get an extra day. We got this. We're going to go back to Minnesota. We're going to get that one. Hold on, hold on. So are we saying

the fact that that they're losing is because their legs no no i'm saying no no no no that's a good team but i'm saying ocho when you play just imagine how your legs feel just imagine if you had to play a football game on monday and then you had to play another one on wednesday not thursday monday wednesday yeah i mean i'm sorry you would that would be good I'd be good Yeah you would But you'd be good at 40 Playing wide receiver Yeah I think you would I think you would

No you wouldn't Yeah yeah I'd be good Hold on We talking about at 40 Our mentality is different though You got Our mentality is different than that though

You can't compare the kids to us You know what I'm saying Our mentality You can have a mentality All you want to That body No The mind winning

The body just ain't able To get up and down I'm going to go I'm going to go And get a jacuzzi I'm going to kick it I'm going to get my legs right I ain't going to practice

I ain't doing none of that I'm going to go I'm going to come back And give you 50 I'm telling you right now And first of all These dudes got a lot But you got to understand

They lost in L.A. They lost in L.A. Minnesota hell of it right now. And first of all, these dudes got a lot, but you got to understand, they lost in L.A. They lost in L.A. Minnesota winning and defending home. It's going to be hard for you to beat them. They're going to go to L.A., Minnesota, L.A.

Minnesota ain't going to lose at home. I'm getting out of here. We supposed, we supposed they had to took two of them. We supposed they had to took both of them. We got this, GP. We got that dinner bit. Okay, I got you. We supposed to have took two of them. We supposed to have took both of them.

We got this, GP. We got that dinner bet. Okay, I got you. Hold on. Wait, wait, hold on. When y'all have a bet, right? When y'all have a bet, and you talk about the dinner bet, is there a certain amount?

Is there a certain amount you can and can't go through? No. You can go wherever you want to go, man. Yeah, we got this. Do you. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm confident on 3-1. They ain't coming back like that.

They all probably be messed up. Hey, now you know if anybody know how to come back from a 3-1 deficit, GP. Yeah. Are you with me? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, look at him. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. But look what I'm telling you. I get it. But that ain't gonna happen. That ain't gonna happen. Look, Shannon, this ain't no mentality of us.

I'm gonna tell you one time, man, these dudes ain't cut like that, man. I don't care what they're saying. Matter of fact, they ain't cut like us, man. They ain't cut like, man, I'm gonna go, man.

We gonna bust them for three games. Dude, these dudes want to go on vacation, right? You know what I'm saying, they ain't cut like us, man. They ain't cut like, man, I'm a gold man. We gonna bust them for three games. Dude, these dudes want to go on vacation, man. You know what I'm saying? We ain't going. I'm trying to hear how they, man. Look here. They are. I want to make a sad,

I want to make a sad bet. You can't make no bet. Oh, so? I went, what? Huh? That's true. Oh, I'm saying,

I'm saying, I'm, no, I'm, I'm, I'm. But, but, but, man, what's with you? Cause, cause Santa said you can't make a bet cause you already owe something. What you already owe? Listen, listen, listen, listen, I'm doing, I'm doing right by him. I owe him $5,200. No, you owe him $15.

Oh. Okay. Wait, you're not the bank. You can't ask. Yeah, you can't ask. Now, let me ask you a question. Have you ever gone to the bank and borrowed money without paying interest on the money? Yeah, yeah.

I ain't never borrowed no money from the bank. We get them, man. You can't do it like we in the mafia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We do all that paying. Let that go, man. Let that go, man. Get that $5,200 and it's robbed.

Hey, hey, GP, I got to put a little juice on it. Yeah, I know. Man, tell me to get you a bottle of something, something. You know what I'm saying? Get you a bottle of something, something, man, and let that go. I mean, listen, GP, I'm just trying to give him a chance to double his money. That's what I got. Let's double it.

That's just what you owe me. Double or nothing. Double or nothing. Double or nothing. Chad, I got to go with Shannon, man. Just give me $52,000. Yeah, all that doubling. I can't double.

Okay, okay. How you going to double? He want to double up my money. Yeah. Hey, bank. Hey, bank. I know I owe you a couple hundred thousand, but let me know. Hey, double or nothing.

Loan me another couple hundred thousand. I'm just saying, listen, I'm giving you an opportunity to double your money. So when I do pay you, you have more than what you was going to get in the first place. The further that I haven't got what I was supposed to be getting at the end of the season, the likelihood of me getting that double ain't happening either.

I told you when I see you, I'm going to pay you. 59.80. You owe me 59.80 plus that 15%. It went from 52 to 59? Yep. I don't let... Hey, in this economy? Thank you.

I need my money in this economy. LeBron said tying legs was not the cause of the misses. J.J. Reddick became the first coach to play five players for an entire half in the playoffs. J.J. said on his starters playing the entire second half, it wasn't planned, but we just made the decision at halftime. Magic Johnson questioned the strategy. I'm just sick to my stomach that the Lakers lost this game after being in control most of the second half.

I don't know if it's smart to play LeBron and Luka the entire second half after only having one day rest between game three and four. We needed LeBron to take over in the fourth quarter, and he couldn't. He scored zero points in the fourth. I agree. I agree. The refs missed a trip. Luka got tripped. I mean, that was a blatant trip. He doesn't follow his own. We watched it. He gets

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It's just, look, I think it was. LeBron is saying, like, he don't want to make excuses. But, GP, when you ask that man to do what the man had, he had the most rebounds of anybody that touched the court today. He had the most assists of anybody that touched the court today. He had the most blocked shots. He had the most steals. Well, no, even Chinzo had the most

steals. But you're talking about a 40-year-old been letting rebounds, letting blocked shots, letting assists. You're asking a 40... Think about what you're asking a 40-year-old. A 40-year-old what you're asking him block shots. Let him assist. You're asking a 40... Think about what you're asking a 40-year-old. A 40-year-old. What you're asking him to do. And Shannon, I'm going to comment on that.

We own a freak of a nature job to do. I get what you're saying about... He's different. He's different. He's a lot different. I don't agree with him not getting no rest in the second half. I think he rested for two or three, four minutes. He's

resting for like two or three minutes and bringing back and do the same thing. But what I do with JJ, I'm going to go to JJ Reddy's defense. He was saying, I can't lose this game. I'm going to go with my player who I think is going to give me something.

He shouldn't have did that. I'm going to go with my player who I think going to give me something. You know what I'm saying? He shouldn't have did that. You know, and timeouts don't cut it sometimes. It don't work. I would have gave him three to four minutes or five minutes every quarter. I would have did five minutes and then still controlled it. I get what Magic is saying.

You know what I'm saying? Give him his legs. I would have gave him third quarter. I would have said he'd fight six minutes and then played him the whole fourth quarter. You know what I'm saying? That's what I would have did. It was a bad decision on his behalf, but I think what JJ is thinking

as the first year. He needed that. He got to get this game. I got to get this. And it didn't work out for him. Now what he's going to go back, he's going to reevaluate everything. He's going to give him rest because

they need this win in LA on Wednesday. And I think they're going to get the win on LA on Wednesday. They're going to get it. But I'm just saying. He should have evaluated that a little bit different. I don't think it's legs and all that.

I think he got tired, and they went away from everything that they did. To me, you go put LeBron on the block, see if they're going to go doubly, let him guard one-on-one, and go at it. And if you watch the game, it's that two-eye, watch Luka, watch LeBron, I focus on all of y'all. Put him on the block. Let him come down there and double.

You know what I'm saying? And do things like that, but they don't play that way. Y'all know what's happening, Chad. This game ain't like us. If I see you and Chad on a disadvantage, man, I'm going to want y'all to play every game. I'm going to play every game

until they stop it. And with me, with LeBron being 6'8", 2'6", I'm going to put you on the block. I'm not going to put you up top where everybody can focus in on you and we can suck in. Put you on the block, and if you've got to come down with me,

let me kick it to somebody, hit a jumper, then you're going to start being irrelevant that way. And they didn't play that game. I knew LeBron was going to play a ton of minutes today because he normally takes his break at about 6 minutes, 6.30. He didn't take his break today until about 4 minutes. He got two minutes, and then he was right back in the game, and he didn't come out again. So I knew it was going to be one of those, and I texted Ash.

I said, Ash, first of all, I knew they were in trouble, GP. LeBron is going off. Luka is going off, and they got a four-point lead. Let that sink in now. All my artillery, and I only got a four-point lead, and these guys are going haywire in the first half. So that's not good because normally when guys going off, that's a 10, that's a 12, 14-point lead.

You got both of your big guns, and Minnesota's right there. So they got to feel good. And as a matter of fact, they had a three-point lead at the half. They're like, hold on. LeBron had 22. Luka got 21. That's 43 right there. And we still got the lead? Are we good?

It's the same thing with the Lakers when they lost to the Nuggets when LeBron went crazy in the first half. He had like 30, 32 points. GP, you remember that game? In the first half, they're like, oh, he done. He done spent his wand. He blew his load. We got this're like, oh, he done. He done spent his wad. He blew his load.

We got this. He ended up, he had 32 at the half. He ended up having 40 for the game. Because he exerted so much, and it wasn't enough to get the separation that he needed. Luka and LeBron exerted so much. LeBron, I think LeBron had five points in the third quarter, none in the fourth quarter.

But they did a great job of taxing him. And because, I think a lot of this, GP, because LeBron had five points in the third quarter, none in the fourth quarter. But they did a great job of taxing him. And because I think a lot of this, GP, because LeBron is so tired, they're like, he's not even a threat when he's on the block because that's normally Julius Randle. Julius Randle takes a lot out of you because he's a big-body guy. He wants to bang on you. He's going to bang you. When you're playing defense on him, he's going to bang on you.

When you're playing defense on him, he's going to bang on you. When you're playing defense on him, he's going to bang on you. It's just bang, bang, bang. After a while, that zaps the legs. Let me tell you this. Even doing that, why did I get him in

fine trouble? Let him bang, bang, bang. I'd go at him, spin on him, do the things you do but that's mean you gotta work the game to work the right way y'all remember when i played give me the ball on the block i want you to bang on me because i'm gonna spin on you and i'm gonna kill you every day you know you gotta get to that level where lebron has to learn don't bang bang bang work with him get rand out of the game because what's the next person

that's going to come in that game on Minnesota's bench that can handle me? Not too many people. Not too many people. So that's being coached and being smart. That's why I say nowadays,

IQ ain't in this game. It's all... Athleticism. Ability. It's athletic ability. This ain't no IQ game right now. I'm going to tell everybody. Ain't too many guys in here got IQs like that.

You know what I'm saying? LeBron don't have to bang that boy. If he hit me one time on my back, spin on him, get a foul, get him in foul trouble, then what's going to happen? You're going to suck. Right. You're going to suck. You're going to suck. And ain't nobody going to come off that bench that's going to handle LeBron who must be

bullying him. But when you get a guy who's checked out and he's tired, let's say again, Shannon, let's think about the last play of the game. What LeBron did. He turned the ball over again.

He turned the ball over. Why can't they get the ball inbounds? Because we've seen so many times, guys. Does anybody know how to hard cut? Does anybody know how to set a back pick? But let me tell you this, Shannon. What about just putting your forearm on the man's foot and just get off and post it all down that way?

Why you don't do that? Why you don't do that? Why you don't do that? And then if they try to double me, what are you going to do? I'm going to get the ball to the next one and post it up. I'm telling you once again, I, you, and Eagle, I, you, and this guy. If you

want to get me the ball, I'm going to get the ball. As fast as we can go on the backcourt, I'm going to hold you off, push you off, and you throw that ball out there and I'm going to go get it, I'm going to get the ball. As best as we can go in the backcourt, I'm going to hold you off, push you off, and you throw that ball out there, and I'm going to go get it. I'm going to go get it. Don't try to make none of them heroic passes that you see, man. These dudes is not having IQs like that. They don't have IQs like that.

Hey, hold on. But both of y'all said the same thing, right? You and Unc got a friendly down. You say Lakers going to lose. Well, both of you came to the party and both said, hell, the Lakers are going to win Wednesday. You said they're going to win the game Wednesday, GP. So if they can win the game Wednesday, if they can win one, they can win two.

But I don't think that. But you're going to exert, Chad, you're going to exert a lot. Then you're going home against a team that's in Minnesota that plays well at home. They play well at home. I get it. You're going to exert all your time. But think about the odds of everything. Houston came back from a 3-1 series deficit and win as many games as they win.

They're not going to win three in a row. I'm just not going to say that. I can't do it. You done lost two games in Minnesota, you lost one game at home, and you lost the first game, Chad, at home. Yeah. So what do you think now,

and what have Shannon said? Shannon said they're getting old, legs are tired, they got two days off. What you going to do? How you going to work that out? All right. It's your mindset.

I'm going to try to win this. Chad, I'm going to ask you again. Do you think their mindset is saying, we're going to come back and win three in a row? They're not doing that. They're talking about going home. They're talking about going to Cancun. You know what I'm saying? And we'll work with itcun. You know what I'm saying?

And we'll work with it next year. You feel what I'm saying? I'm just saying, it's going to be hard for the Lakers to win three in a row against this young, tall team that Shannon has just told people are coming off the bench

doing what they do. You feel what I'm saying? And do what they do. Yeah, we thinking about the NBA. NBA don't want it to be like Oklahoma City go full blank. They trying to get TV,

TV. Yeah, yeah. Y'all cutting to the church's money. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Now, I ain't going to keep like this. I'm just going to do whatever.

I'm going to call the calls that I have to call, whatever, whatever. And you got to think about it, though, Chad. Who do you think is more talented? What team do you think

was more talented, Chad? Minnesota or Lakers? Minnesota. Minnesota. They're not going to do that, man. And people coming off the bench, doing what they do. Shannon just told you.

Yeah. Their bench is being more productive than the Lakers bench. It's all these, man. It's who going to be the people that support that superstar, Caz. I think Minnesota got that. Yeah, I agree. Dang. I agree.

And that's the thing. I mean, they were so close they had a 10 point lead I'm not so sure with a 10 point lead I think I try to get LeBron two minutes to start the fourth we got a lead well Chad I say like this

with the Warriors three minutes bring him in sub him at seven he got five minutes on the clock, then back in before right. Play the whole fourth quarter. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, that's how you got to do it.

But I just don't think that chemistry is right. When you got two guys on both sides, I saw in the basketball and you're watching them play basketball. That's not a good deal for me.

It's just like what we did when we played basketball. We put it in the post and let our big man dominate. You don't get it if he's going to score every time. But if he starts scoring, we're going to double him. And what did our big man do? Kick it. And we could ease his buckets. And we rotate, rotate, and make people rotate.

That ain't the game nowadays we're just talking about shooting threes one on one iso trying to do what we do right and it don't work if you don't have that cast that's making them big time shots which minnesota did today yes big time shots and it don't work it won't work it just won't work they definitely lakers definitely got their work cut out for them they're gonna have to play hopefully i don't work. It won't work. It just won't work. Lakers definitely got their work cut out for them. They're going to have to play. Hopefully, I don't know if you can get another 25-point game out of Rui Hachimura. Rui was

sensational today. This is by far his best game in the playoffs, and he played extremely well. I don't know if you're going to be able to get, because he was 5 of 10. He was 9 of 16. He played 41 minutes. Gave you 23 points. LeB he was 5 of 10. He was 9 of 16. Played 41 minutes. Gave you 23 points. LeBron was 27, 12, 8, 3, 3.

Austin Reeves, he came in and he didn't play. He was terrible. He got in foul trouble. He was terrible in the first half. 17, 7, and 4. I can live with that. I like having something spread out. But Julius Randle started the game off.

He was extremely aggressive. And that's his game. He's an aggressive player. He's going to try to put the ball on the floor. He's going to put pressure. He's going to attack the rim. Jaden McDaniels didn't start off strong, but down the stretch, he made all the hustle plays.

He got the and one. He made a big time three. Ant-Man was Ant-Man, but it was noz read and don deven chenzo deven chenzo getting a rebound knocking down a three you get noz read knocking down two big threes uh deven chenzo getting an a and one uh and i thought i was like you know what because deven chenzo got one and lebron skyde is like oh the old man still got something still got some juice in the tank, GP. Yeah. I just think the thing is, yeah, they were tired,

but Ant-Man, he said he's dreamt his whole life of these moments, and you can tell. 12 of 23, 5 of 10 from the three-point line, 14 of 17, nine rebounds, six assists, and he only had one turnover. Well, Chad and Shannon, he told you did something.

When he started shooting threes, playing his Steph Curry, and he said, man, I was in them games shooting them threes. What is he came back and did? He said, I'm going to shoot more threes this year, and look at his percentage come over the threes. What does he came back and did? He said, I'm going to shoot more threes this year and look at his percentage come over the threes. His confidence is way here.

When you give a player like that, that type of ability to do that and become that type of player, put him on the Olympic team, give him that type of ability to become a superstar, a real superstar. Yeah.

And he make his shots and he get confident. It's hard to stop a basketball player like that. And he has proven it. He has proven it that he is the primary player to be that NBA player and take over this league.

And that's what he's doing. Every day after them games and he's doing his poster, all he's doing is smiling. Because he knows it's easy. It's easy for him. It's easy. And that's what he's doing. And he's showing you that he can put

this team on his back. They thought when they got rid of Cat, that it was going to be all over. No. That boy took this game to another level and did what he do. And they just succeed

beating the third seed. That's what these games is. That's what I tell everybody. Stop talking about these seeds and all that. These 82 games, that is crap to me. I'm not talking about none of that.

You got to go play in these playoffs and get out. And they're showing the Lakers that I don't care about none of that. You got to go play in these playoffs and get out. And they're showing the Lakers that I don't care what seed you are, we're going to go get at you. And they get that. The thing is that when you look at it, GP, is that because he can shoot the three, you got to hug up on him. And now he can go by you.

You see what he's going by? He's going to kick or he's going all the way to the rim. So it's like, okay, I'm going to play off him. Hand down, man down, Mark Jackson. And so now he's got that three ball in his bag. He always had the ability to go around you and finish over top of you. So how do I defend him? If I give him too much airspace, he's going to rise up and shoot.

He's going to raise up and shoot the three. If I hug up on him to take away the three, he's going to go by me shoot. He's going to raise up and shoot the three. If I hug up on him to take away the three, he's going to go by me and finish on top of me. So, I mean, you're at his mercy. And the same thing with Steph Curry. Steph Curry used to be he'd settle for the three. Now you see Steph put the ball on the floor and get to his float game. Yeah.

And then, Shannon, you think about that. When I was at the game last night, what Houston tried to do to Steph Curry was doubling every time. I kept screaming. I said, get him off the ball. Don't let him double. Let him come off the baseline

and do like Reggie Miller or Rick Hamilton and they had his mercy. As soon as they did that, Houston fell apart. They fell apart. But what did the Warriors do? They had other people who made shots and did things that they do.

Because once, and then what Curry did, he started being one-on-one, and then he started being Curry. He liked PlayStation. He started cooking. Everything you see is PlayStation, man. And he started cooking. Everything you see. It's PlayStation, man. And he started cooking and he started hitting shots.

And then they started doing it and he started making the right pass. And then they started finishing. They started saying, man, what can I do? And when they started finishing, he started going one-on-one. And it ain't nobody can guard nobody like that with no talent like that. One-on-one. No way. No way.

Jalen Green spoke about the exchange between him and Draymond at the end of the game when Draymond told Jalen Green, go paint your nails. Jalen said, just talking. He can't really do much anything else. So talking is his only way. Hey, GPD, don't, hey.

Did, uh, did y'all, hey, did, hi, because now, I mean, now they throw tech on you. You guys used to be at all of each other's face, spit fly everywhere. Now you say one thing,

oh, yeah, you look at the guy playing. Tech. This is basketball, man. Let these dudes play, man. Let them talk crazy, crazy man I'm with it I was right there when I seen all of that and all that

yaya yaya yaya I mean these dudes ain't some really I'm gonna tell y'all Shannon and Chad get outside man go outside to the restaurant and see them one on one that ain't gonna work that that that that get out of here man that ain't happening you know what I'm saying y'all

can talk all that man and be whatever just just prove it on the basketball court yeah to me put it on the floor you you won't don't get mad at what somebody else say you know what i'm saying stop it and he won't say it no more it is that's what i did that's why i talk crack yeah i can back it up. If you say something to me, I'm going to give you a fart. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to give you a fart at 10, 8, whatever. And then I'm going to be like, yeah, we won.

What's that? Stop all that wah-wah-wah, man. Because ain't nothing tough like that. Them dudes ain't no gangsters, man. Ain't nobody shot no pistols and did all that, man, in their life, man. Them dudes ain't even on that. You know what I'm saying? Stop being like you really bad. You ain't nobody shot no pistols and did all that man, them dudes ain't even on that you know what I'm saying stop being like you really bad

you ain't really bad man cause if we get to one on one somewhere man we knuckle up, them dudes ain't gonna be like that ain't gonna be like that man so man, go on and prove it on the floor man and go on about your business you know what I'm saying, it is what it is

you know, and it was legit. It wasn't like somebody saying, man, I was with your wife last night. Yeah, I was with yours last night too. That's why I wasn't home. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, you was with her, don't be with her. You feel what I'm saying?

Because I was with yours last night too. And while you was thinking about me, you feel what I'm saying? So I'm with it, man. I ain't on that, man. All that boo-boo-boo-ish. Yeah, man, I ain't with that boo-boo-boo. Man, go ahead and prove it on the basketball court, man. And that's what I'm talking about.

Prove it tomorrow. And you mad? Yeah. Go get it. Go get it. You feel me? So that's all I got to say about that. Go get it. Made get it. You feel me? So that's all I got to say about that. Go get it.

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SGA had 38 points and finally found his rhythm. In the first three games, he was averaging 24 points per game, but it was taking him almost 23 shots to get those. He was shooting 35% when he shot almost 52% from the floor in the regular season. He had made only six of 24 threes, shooting 25%, but in game four, SGA was SGA. 13 of 24, 11-13 free throws. They end up sweeping the Memphis Grizzlies, and you knew it was over.

They had a 27-point lead. Jaw goes up, comes down, and hey, that lead dissipates. They end up losing that game, so you know it was just a matter of time before they ended up getting swept. They passed the first test. They've been the best team in the Western Conference for the entirety of the season, Twan.

What do you think? They're going to play the winner of the Clippers Nugget Series. What you like? Can anybody pose a threat to them? Honestly, I just think they don't have that next guy. You know, I think Shea should be the MVP this year. Could have won it last year.

I wouldn't have had no problem with it. I think this year he gets it. I don't see the second guy. I just haven't seen, I mean, we know him. Jay Lewis is great. I do like him, but I need to see him put to the test. I need to see him put to the test where he had to get 30, 35 on a given night. So I see that.

I just don't trust him against a veteran team. I just think you get one of those, the Clippers or Denver, whichever team you face, those guys have been there before. They're going to know how to guard you. The respect level's a little different. They got the toughness to go in your building to get a win. That's where they're going to be a little different.

It's actually kind of bad for them to see either one of those teams because those teams are older teams and they're veteran teams that can give them trouble because they know how to play in the playoffs. So neither one of those teams are going to be great matchups for them, but they are a great home team. And by having the best record, I always say this,

it means something when you take care of business in the season because you get those most important games on the floor, on your floor. You get that 5-7. You get 5-7 on your home floor. That's why you take care of business during the season. I'll never forget that. You always want to have that home court advantage.

So that's where they can be. That's where they can have the advantage because they play so great in that building. Right. But it's going to be tough for them. The next round is going to be tough for them.

Look for them to be long series. And can anybody else step up and help Shea out? We know Shea's going to have some moments where he gets 35, 40, hell, maybe even 45 Shea's going to have some moments where he gets 35, 40, hell, maybe even 45. Who's going to be that next guy that steps up?

And that's going to remain to be seen. Hey, Tuan, so basically, probably OKC is similar to in the same situation based on who they play, whether it be the Nuggets, whether it be the Clippers. They're going to be in a similar situation like the Rockets right now with the Warriors. Yeah, it's just not saying that they're young.

I mean, the OKC guys have been together a while. I just think, and you guys know this, and I just, and Shannon, it goes back to what you did to start the show off. When you start naming stars, you don't even name Shaq. You didn't name nobody else off OKC. That's a team that won 60 games this year. Think about it. You didn't name two, three guys off OKC. I just

don't think there's nothing wrong with that. They have great complementary guys. They got great role players. I just don't see that next superstar. A guy that can help you win a game. Who's going to go win a game besides Shea? I want to see that. Let's see the next guy step up and get 30-35. Let's see Shea have 10 points, a bad night, foul trouble.

He don't get it done. Who's going to be that next guy that steps up for them? So that remains to be seen. That's where the test is going to come in at. Yeah, look, I didn't think Memphis was going to do much. And when Scottie Pippen Jr. was your best player on the Memphis Grizzlies, and I'm happy for him because he seemingly found a home in Memphis, and they're giving him an opportunity to showcase his ability.

But I didn't really expect much from Memphis in this series. Even with Ja, maybe they could have got a game. Maybe a game. Maybe a game. I think that game they had a 27-point lead. I think if Ja stays in, they probably win that one. Maybe they get a game maybe maybe maybe maybe a game i think that that game they had a 27 point lead i think if josh stays in they probably win that one maybe they get a game maybe maybe maybe all things be equal they get two but i mean you look at you look at them um homegrown had 11 jaylen williams had 23 hartenstein had 11 and 12 shea was Shea. But what they kill you is that,

you know, they're a great defensive team because they got Caruso. They got Isaiah Joe. They got Wallace. They got Lou Dort. They got Chet that can protect the rim

if somebody gets beat off the dribble. They got big. They got two bigs. And they don't have a problem playing two bigs. But then when they go small, they got guys

that are scrappy, they can defend, everybody can defend at an extremely high level. But I agree with you. But the question is, man, you got to be able to have Shea under control. Because if you don't, he'll end up shooting 15, 20 free throws on you. Because he has to. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Go ahead, Tor. No, I'm saying you have to beat him. I do agree with you. You have to. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead, Tor. No, I'm saying you have to beat them. I do agree with you. You have to beat them. They're not going to beat themselves. I think with the young group, they got fresh legs.

They play lively. They play great at home. So they're going to, and they got a guy. I mean, Shea is a guy. He's a guy that can get you 35 points. That's what you want

in the playoffs. They got all the ingredients to make a deep run. I just worry when you get into a series with better teams that may double-team Shea and may force some other guys to beat you. Are those other guys ready to deliver at the level that you need to? Think about some of these teams.

I mean, think about the Lakers. You know, they got two guys that can get it done. You know, when we talk about OKC, we just don't. Williams is great. Don't get me wrong. He's a great young player. He is great. Don't get me wrong. He's a great young player. He made the all-star team this year.

He's shown that he can be a 20, 25-point scorer. Hell, he's had some 30-point performances. But if you've got to get another guy that can go to him, I don't think as you get along, you start out playing the better teams, they're not going to let Shea beat them. I just don't think that. I think they're going to double-te team. They're going to make these other guys have to beat them. If I was playing against them, that's what I

would do. But the OKC did the right thing. Everything got to come through them. They have four games on the next floor. And I think that's what they did. They did a good job. They played well there. And you guys know this, and you guys have watched enough basketball, the road guys play better at home.

So now you got those young guys, those young guys on the bench playing at home, they play a lot better. That's what an advantage is for OKC. Yeah, because they had five guys, even though they were on the road, it was a close game. They have five guys in double figures.

Holmgren had 11. Jalen Williams had 23. Hardenstein had 11. Shea had 38. And Isaiah Joe had 11, and Wiggins had 9. You hear them numbers, though, Chad. You hear them other numbers kind of low, though, Chad.

You see the other numbers a little low now. Somebody else, you play a better team, you play a better team. Play one of them big dogs. It's going to be a little different. But you know what I like? But I like, not to be a little different but you know what I like not to cut you off Ocho what I like is that Williams

and Shea take most of the shots because you look at it they took a combined 45 shots and you had Hongren with the next most shot at 9 you had a guy took 7 one guy took 4 1 1 5 7 7 8 so your big dog's eating

you got because you know sometimes you get to the playoff guys try to 4-1-1-5-7-7-8. So your big dog's eating. Uh-huh. Because, you know, sometimes you get to the playoffs, guys try to make a name for themselves, and all of a sudden, you're supposed to be shooting 7-8 times, and all of a sudden, you shoot 14-15 times. No, whoa, whoa, what you doing? Coach, did you see that?

Hey, is it Andrew Wiggins? No, no, no, Andrew Wiggins? No, no, no. Andrew Wiggins is down in Miami with you. You just said that's another Andrew Wiggins. They got another Wiggins on their team. Yeah, they got a young Wiggins on their team. Yeah. Okay, okay. Y'all do not want to be.

Wiggins ain't bad. He's through the ball. Oh, yeah. I like Wallace. I like Isaiah Joe. But they all can defend. Look at that back. It's Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. I like Wallace. I like Isaiah Joe. But they all can defend. Look at Caruso. Can defend.

Lou Dort. Can defend. Isaiah Joe. Can defend. Carson Wallace. Can defend. Hey, Chet Holmes. Defend.

So, even Shea was like top three in steals. So, no matter who you have on the court, you still have at least three guys that can defend on the ball at all times. And then if Shea's in there, you got somebody that can protect the paint, protect the rim. Hardenstein, I mean, he can't protect, but he's a big body.

He'll block a shot here or there. I like the way they make up, but like you said, we'll see next round. Jha didn't want to be seen on camera on the bench. He saw the broadcast camera on him and put his hand over his face. Juan, you good with this? No, man, I feel bad for my guy. Shane, I remember you had me on when you was back on with Fox

and we was talking about him. And we had a long discussion with him, man. I just wish he did. I mean, he's such a terrific talent, man. I just wish he'd lock in on playing basketball you know what I'm saying and take what comes with it that's the good coverage you want

you want your fans to see you care about your team and that you're upset that you're not playing that's when you want the camera on you so I just hope he gets it together I got a lot of respect for him I want him to be I think he could be one of the greatest players to play in the game

at the point guard position when he's right, healthy and he gives you that stretch of 20, 25 games where he's just playing basketball and not shooting a gun and not doing all those crazy things, he's one of the best players in the league. He is. But, you know, we just don't know if he's ever going to figure it out. So I get disappointed in him a little bit on that because I hope this talent doesn't go to waste.

Because, you know, Adam Silver, after a while, he's going to have to go see the big dog again. And he ain't going to like what he's going to do to you. Do you think he needs to be out of Memphis in order for him to really blossom and fully develop? Yep, right on down here in Miami. Yep, most definitely. Chad, he can't come to Miami. Pat Riley. I got him.

No, Pat Riley, Eric Spursome ain't playing that, man. That's what I mean. Sometimes that's what you need. Sometimes you need to go somewhere like this where you have two old school type coaches that approach the game of basketball different. They got structure. They got discipline.

You right here right now, and you try to go all the way over here. You see all that space in between? You got to stop off in the middle, Ocho. It's going to be tough, man. It's going to be tough. Do I think he needs another place? Change the scenery?

I don't think he needs a change of scenery. I think they have to really strategically make sure that they keep the right guys around him. And you know how sometimes you bring a veteran on the team that may be not going to get a lot of minutes that can help you control that locker room.

You know how it is to help control some of the out-the-court activities. I think that's what they need to do. You know, sometimes it's good to pick up a guy like that. Maybe a guy that's not going to do much. You know what I mean?

Think about that Boston Celtics team. They put Al Horford, a nice veteran on the team with them who's been on that team for the last three, four years. Been great. A good locker room guy. You know what I mean? That's what you need. You need some locker room guys sometimes. I think that, I like them

in Memphis because they've been successful. They've had some winners. It's not like they're a bad team. They got some pieces there. He doesn't have to be moved, but he's going to have to clean up some things. And I think he can use another superstar. I would like to see. I don't know if they'll be able to.

Well, Triple J was supposed to be a super superstar. I don't know. I'm just telling you, they paid him like one. Yeah, I don't know. He kind of took a couple steps back this year. Especially this series. Yeah. They was banged up this year. Especially this series. Yeah. They was banged up this year a lot off and on.

So I'm not going to put too much on this season and the coaching change and all that stuff they went through. You know, that firing of the coach was kind of weird to me. I know y'all covered that a long time ago. Yeah. I think that played a part too. You know, a couple of years ago, John Morant said, I'm fine in the West.

I might have you worry about Boston, but I'm fine in the West. Zero playoff series wins, one head coach fine, and two suspensions. Is he fine in the West, Juan? No, he's not fine in the West. I mean,

for us that love sports, and we love to see guys make it and do great, I would love to see him on the Miami Heat where there's structure, where there's discipline, where basketball has to come first. I would love to see him in that type of situation where they can get some of that junk out of him. But we don't know. I mean, Memphis has to make a major decision on whether or not they want to continue to build around him

and kind of go through his antics, or you make a move for him while he still has a little value, because I think he still has some value right now. Yeah, for sure. So I think you can get something for him, and maybe it might be, you know, telling you guys a mutual agreement. Hey, I tried it here. I need a new surrounding. I want to try something different. Maybe you can make a move in that sense. Because they're two totally different teams with or without. So they're going to have to figure it out.

Two totally different teams. I like it. I like it, Arn. I like it. Hey, Mickey Harrison, I know you're going to see this. Pat, I know you're going to see this. Spoilster, holla at your boy. My number's still the same.

We can go get y'all sometime in the summer. Listen, I put the pieces in place. I make sure he's good away from the court. You know, I got the right kind of people. You know, we don't play no game. We don't do none of that. Okay. Ain't gonna be no driving. Ain't gonna be no shooting. Ain't gonna be throwing on no

grenades. Uh-uh. Don't do that. You gonna get him over? Hey, no, no, no. I got a driver for him. I got a. You going to get him over? You going to get him over? Get him a driver? No, no, no. I got a driver for him. I got a driver. We'll get him every way he needs to go. We won't even...

Well, Tuan, I've been in Miami all my life. I don't even club. I ain't been to club live yet. I just went to booby trap for the first time two weeks ago. Boy, I'm 57 years old. So I know if I can get a driver out here to Miami, I can keep him aligned. We got the same goal.

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