Nightcap - Nightcap NFL Recap - Part 1: 49ers Extend Brock Purdy + Boomer Esiason DESTROYS Caleb Williams

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

Recap the best NFL moments of the week as Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Brock Purdy reaching $265 million contract extension with 49ers, Boomer Esiason calling out Caleb Williams after recent comments, and much more!01:41 - Brock Purdy reaches agreement11:37 - Boomer went off on Caleb Williams20:32 - NFL owners to vote on new seeding22:41 - NFL gen manager–who’s your first pick?26:00 - Caleb Williams QB talk(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Volume. 49 of them rock party have agreed to terms on a five-year $265 million contract extension, including $181 million in total guarantees. The highest paid quarterbacks in the NFL based on a year-to-year basis. Dak Prescott at $60 million.

Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Jordan Love, and Trevor Lawrence at $55 million. Tua at $53.1 million. Brock Purdy, $53 million, Jerry Goff at 53. That's a good number. Right where they have him slotted is a good number for him. Yeah. I mean, Ocho, you got to think about it. The man made $2.9 million over the first three years of his career.

Now he'll get a check every week for $2.9 million. Listen, he deserved it. Well-deserved. Well-deserved. Listen, he deserved it. Well deserved. I like Breck Purdy. I just didn't view him as a tier one type quarterback. He had a superior

supporting cast around him. You got Trent Williams. You got Debo. You got Brandon Ayuk. You got Christian McCaffrey in the backfield. How do you look once some of those pieces went away? It wasn't as pretty. It wasn't as pretty, huh? It's all about Ocho.

When real estate, what is it about? It's about location, location, location. In the NFL, it's about position, position, position. He plays a premium position. No, he plays the premium position. No, A, he plays B, premium position.

And so, you're like, man, that Jose, man, that Jose worth no $40 million? Maybe if it wasn't in Bel Air, you're right. But it's in Bel Air. It's absolutely worth $40 million. And if you want it, that's what you're going to have to pay to get it. Well,

a starting quarterback in the NFL that's gone to a Super Bowl, he's gone to two NFC championships, that's what you're going to have to pay to keep it. It's really that simple, Ochoa. Man, he ain't worth that. You work with somebody to play for you. He plays very well in that offense,

in that Shanahan uncle. He plays very well in that offense, in that Shanahan uncle. He plays very, very well. Look, actually, he's probably worth more because he saved Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch's job because they invested all that money in Trey Lance. They gave up all that draft capital to get Trey Lance. They took this man as Mr. Irrelevant in the last pick of the seventh round. Now, if you don't take him and you got Trey Lance and you done moved on from Trey Lance, you gone. You gone.

Hey, Uncle Ocho. Are you, didn't he tear his ACL? Tear his ACL last year. Debo gone, right? Debo, he was standing. Debo was back. So he got Kittles. Who else he throwing to?

Brandon and I, you could be back. Juwan Jennings. Ricky Purcell. Am I, you going to be back already after ACL? No, ACL don't take that long. Don't take that long. Medicine different now, Joe. Medicine different now.

He did it real early, so he'll definitely be back so he did it like in september so october november december january february march april may june july oh yeah we got a few players coming back we got you know brandon are you coming back off acl stefan did coming back off acl and it seemed like they're recovering faster because obviously technology is a lot more advanced, and, you know, the rehab and stuff that they do is a lot more advanced. Yes, yes. So players are coming back faster than ever,

especially once you get over that mental block and understanding that you can trust your knee and be comfortable cutting and moving. Oh, man, that's, I mean, that's the hardest part right there. In just three seasons, he's passed for 9,518 yards, 64 touchdowns, four playoff wins, NFC Championship, and a Pro Bowl. So that's the going rate. C.J. Stroud is up next.

Yeah. Yeah. C.J. Stroud up next. Listen, he finna get the bag. Yeah, the guap down. Yeah. Yeah. CJ Stroud up there. Listen, he finna get the bag. He got to go out there. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, pretty soon you're going to have Jane Daniels and Caleb Williams.

They're going to be coming out. They finna set the mark. They finna have the quarterback out of control. Oh, they're going to reset it. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. That's 60 million. I mean, I mean,

but Josh Allen got his whole contract guaranteed. 265, Ocho. Hey. No, what he got, we're tacked on, so it's like 330. Was that more than what Deshaun got? Deshaun got 230 guaranteed.

Damn. They got the same agent? No. Deshaun had David Muguleta. I don't know who Brock Purdy's agent is. David Muguleta and I think Todd,

all of them are athletes first, right? Who's Todd? Who's Brock? Oh, yeah, I've never heard of them. Deshaun David Muguleta is his agent. I think all of them are the athletes first. I thought Todd France, who has Dak.

Who? Who? all them out of, uh, the athletes first. I thought Todd France who had, who has Dak. Who, who? I bet. Look at, look at CEO, CEO Todd France. I think he's at athletes first. Mm.

Mm. Mm. Okay. Yeah. So, but, uh, yeah, I, I agree with you, Ocho. yeah so but yeah I agree with you Ocho I think Brock Purdy

was deserving or had earned this given what he had done his resume a Pro Bowl a Super Bowl NFC Championship game two

he had been gone to two NFC Championship games remember he tore his his elbow messed his elbow up like the first snap. That was a playoff game, wasn't it?

That was a playoff game. Yeah. Yeah, a championship game. The NFC Championship game to the Eagles. So it was. And so, yeah, he earned this. He earned this big payday. I like to see guys,

and I like to see team reward the players. You play well, we're going to reward you. Don't do all that haggling. I hate that they haggle all other positions except the quarterback. They never do quarterback positions like that. Ever. Yeah.

And won't. I hate that. Look, man, hey, I understand that he's important, but I've done my job. I've gone to four full books. I've been two or three times first team all pro. And now you want to haggle me. They going to always do it.

They always. I'm trying to think. So CJ is going to be up next year. As a matter of fact, if I'm the Ravens, I go ahead and do something with Lamar. What you mean? Signing? Hell yeah. You got to do it again. with Lamar. What you mean? Signing? Receiving? Are you staying?

Yeah, hell yeah. You got to do it again. Probably sometime in the middle. I bet they do something in the middle of the season. Watch. In the middle of the season or after the season.

How many years he got left? Yep. Shoot, he just signed that big one. He signed a five-year two-something. Yeah.

So what, he had his third year into that? Second year? This is the second years to something. So what, he's a third year into that? Second year? This is the second year to it. But you got certain people that's getting ready to overlap him

and they ain't got no business. Yeah, no, where you see, we just named three, six,

eight quarterbacks and we ain't mentioned Lamar. Lamar's about, I think Lamar's about 50. They ain't got no business overlapping young bull

yeah damn wait excuse me hold on I gotta use the bathroom real quick hold on

well you better get him before he's he's messing around and win a Super Bowl cause now you have to pay him 70 million Lamar yeah he has two MVPs only the only guy on this list messing around and winning the Super Bowl because now you have to pay him $70 million. Lamar?

Yeah. He has two MVPs. The only guy on this list that has an MVP is Josh Allen. So Lamar has two. Dak doesn't have any. Joe doesn't have any. Joe has gone to the Super Bowl, but he's the only one here in Brock Purdy that's on this list that's gone to the Super Bowl. None of the

other guys have even played in a championship game. Yeah, that's going to be the separator for Lamar. If he can get him one, if he can win one, it's over. Man. It's definitely over if he can do that. Well, they got to back that break stroke up. Oh, for sure. But they definitely

have the team. You know, they re-signed they re-signed they didn't re-sign him. They extended him. King Henry gave him $25 million two-year extension, $25 million. They extended him. I like Rashad Bateman. I like the receiving core they got. They brought

Andrews back. They brought Lively back. Likely. Isaiah Likely. They brought him back. Look, the defense is going to be solid again. Offensive line is intact. Lamar is going to be Lamar. So you the defense is going to be solid again. Offensive line is intact. Lamar is going to be Lamar. So, you know, they're going to be consistently, they're going to be pretty good.

They're going to be there. Yep. They just got, you know, the hardest thing is to break it through that wall the first time. Once you break through then, all of a sudden, it's just like, it happens. But that's the hardest thing. You see, Josh Allen hadn't broken through yet because seemingly they have to go against my homeboy.

Only a handful of people have been able to stand down in the playoff game. And that's been Joe Burrow did it and Tom Brady did it. Brady beat him in the Super Bowl once and Jalen Hurts just got it. But it's tough. It's tough getting through that first time. Boomer Esiason Damn, Boomer Esiason

went off on Kayla Williams calling him entitled, says he needs to shut up. Keep your mouth shut. You're going into the greatest league that's ever been for a sport we all love. You're going to have a chance one day to make $500 million because guys like me and guys before me all went on strike so you could

actually make more money. So keep your piehole shut and go out there and play football and earn your keep. Earn your respect. Keep your piehole. Damn, boom. Boom, boom. I work with Boomer at CBS for a decade. And look, I have a personal relationship with him. He's always been good to me.

He's really, I mean, he's really a great, generous guy. But he will now, he get on the radio, get on TV now, he going to tell you how he really feel. Yeah, he ain't a great, generous guy. But he will now. He get on the radio, get on TV. Now, he going to show you how he really feel. Yeah, he ain't going to bite his tongue. He's been like that for a very long time. He has. He has. These old school cats, man, they don't like these young dudes,

these prima donnas coming in here getting all this money. I got it a few times man oh yeah oh yeah i was sitting next to him when he gave it yeah yeah and i hey joe i love it too yeah yeah i love i think the thing is uh joe and you can I mean, you made great money compared to the guys before you. Now, the guys that came after you, they're making money. Now, in 10 years from now, guys that were making $40, $50 million a year, like, man, they got this joker here making $80 million. Can you believe, Joe, he making $80 million?

Amen. That's great. That's just, it is what it is. It's just, you know, oh hey it wasn't part of time on show you could buy a cadillac for 3 000 you get a nice three bedroom two bath brick home for 35 000 timing is everything man bro you can't even furnish your house now with 35 000 by the time you put i mean hey I'm looking at them trying to get me

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man four and five thousand dollars for a piece one piece like for like a six feet three piece yeah patio furniture made for this mountain like for like a sexy repeat. Yeah.

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I don't come here and swim in the pool anyway. I said, don't even worry about it. I told you, don't even worry about it. Ain't nobody, ain't nobody. I ain't been in the pool. I ain't been in the pool since I've been here. And I've been here a year. Shelly had her feet in it.

Her and her girlfriend had her feet in it. That's it. You know how to swim? Or you scared? I do. I do. Joe, you know how to swim? Not like a fish.

Oh, yeah. Oh, I forgot. You live on a property, so I know you got a pool do. I do. Joe, you know how to swim? Like a fish. Oh, yeah. Oh, I forgot. You live on a property, so I know you got a pool. Oh, man. Here we go again. This is what we on. Hey, the country boys don't know how to swim. I know you know how to swim, huh? What? Come on, man. Every summertime, as a little shorty, as a little jit, I used to bring in Charles Hadley Pool with all

my homies. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Look, I grew up in a boys club, boys and girls club in Little Rock, man. They throw you in the deep end, boy. You got to learn. You got to learn. You got to. Yep.

You go up in the country, it's hard not to swim because you're around water all the time. Oh, yeah. And then, you know, I got all these cousins and everything. So, hey, I all the time. Oh, yeah. And then, you know, I got all these cousins and everything, so, hey, I was the youngest. Hey, if you could, hey, I saw them do it,

they jump in, hey, I jump in right behind them. But, hey, Lord, if they let something happen to me, I know. Everybody, Ocho, in the country, you know, I see people jumping in lakes and everything I know Florida water out there Ocho Y'all don't jump in no lakes and nothing do you

Uh yeah Yeah you know people Lake canals Obviously the ocean But anybody in water People getting in Hey Joe you ain't just see the man With the alligator?

Canoe, he was canoeing with his wife. Oh, he was running from the cops. What? He jumped in the water with the alligator so the cops couldn't

come and get him. And he sat there arguing with the cops and the gator, the gator right there by him and the gator came close to him. He fighting with the gator and refusing to get out of the water.

You ain't see that? Nah, the gator ain't a mom't see that nah man the gator wasn't big enough to really hand him like he wanted to but the gator tried to you know take a little bite of him but he was too small oh no he was too small to do something with him i don't i listen i don't know how long it took the cops to get him out that water but he was he was in deep where they couldn't get to him. Boy, if that gator was any bigger. Now, I've seen a story where a man and a woman were canoeing

and the gator took his wife. What? Yeah, the gator took his wife, Aja's wife, and I started thinking, man, did that man take his wife out there on a canoe trip

to get rid of her? I'm trying to understand how I get the wife and not, well, okay, they only attack one person at a time.

That was Florida? That definitely wasn't Florida. It wasn't Florida. That canoe, yeah, that was. It was Florida? Yeah, there't Florida. It wasn't Florida. The canoeing? Yeah, that was. They weren't Florida? It wasn't Florida. There's something about you need to watch,

you need to be aware in Florida. Oh, yeah. And keep small pets, because a lot of times people get a pet smash because they're walking close to the canal, Ocho. And you got to realize the gators are ambulant. So he's going to lighten his speed. Hey, short-air and quickness is unbelievable.

And you won't understand. You see that man? Hey, that gator got that man pup dog. That man just opened the gator. Or the acid. Or the acid. Hey, you jumping in there and saying your dog like that? Oh, absolutely.

You jumping in there to grab the gator. Open it. Yeah. And guess what and guess what uh uh and every gator i see from that point on he's gonna be dead i'm gonna i'm gonna be a vigilante every day i see he don't have a chance he's gonna be barely you're gonna be traumatized you're're going to be traumatized. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, anything. Oh, yeah. Bear, it don't matter. Because, like, now, I don't really, like, but when I, like,

when I walked my dog when we had the dogs, I always had a thing on me. So I'm walking at night just in case. So bear, bobcat, anything. Oh, you're going to get it. Yeah, that thing. What you were carrying? What you had, an AR? What, what, what, what. Oh, you don't get it. Yeah, that thing, you know. What you with, Karen? What you with? AR?

What, what, what, what? No, I don't know. He's trying to be quick. He's talking about AR. You talking about Draco? Okay. No. Nah, hell nah.

Man, y'all ain't trying to take that no city. I just want the Bobcat or the Bear or whatever it is getting to get up off me. NFL owners plan to vote next week on a new playoff seating proposed by the Lions, according to Albert Breer. If it gets passed, the number seven seats in each conference will be decided strictly

by their record. A non-division winning team would be seated higher than a division champ if they have more wins. What did you think about the game, Mom? The whole thing is to win your division. You can't look and see the thing is

you take one isolated incident, Ocho. You took Minnesota. Okay, Minnesota was 14-3. Now they're a lower seed than, say, somebody won 10, but you didn't win your division. How many times have a

14-win team hasn't won the division when it just so happens you were in the division with a team that was 15-2? Damn! The chance of that happening again, probably ain't gonna happen like that again for a while. Just honestly, me, leave the game alone.

Leave the game alone. Leave it how it is. You know, I think we're, well, the people in position. They're tinkering too much. Yeah, they're doing too much to it. I feel bad for people that play on the defensive side of the ball, and I'm an offensive player. They're handicapped so much,

they can't even play what we have come to love and know as a game of football. And it's true art. You just can't. You can't. Leave the game alone, please. Joe, you know know they removed didn't they

I think in the NBA they removed division winners right did they remove division winners as far as getting higher

I don't think that's an NBA nah because it used to be like that yeah if you won your division yeah

yeah automatic yeah yeah it did because it used to be like that. Yeah, if you won your division. Yeah. Yeah, automatically. Yeah, it did. No, I don't want to do that. Don't, don't, don't, don't do that. Hey, Sajay Sabatini said, Ocho,

Uncle Ocho, you're an NFL general manager. Who's your first pick, dead or alive? First pick? Start a franchise pick, date or alive? First pick? Start a franchise with, obviously, right? Yep.

I'm taking Brady. You can't go wrong with the quarterback position. If you give me an offensive player, I'm taking Tom Brady. You give me a defensive player, I'm taking L.T. I was going to say, I'm going to say L.T. DefensiveT. I was going to say L.T.

Defensive guy, I'm going to say L.T. Yeah. If you start with any other position on offense, you crazy. I'm taking the quarterback. I'm taking Tom. Then defensive player, I'm taking LT give me give me

give me Joe Montana okay and give me LT on the other side who you starting your franchise with Joe shit Ocho you heard what he said Joe said he's starting a franchise with Ocho. You heard what he said. Josie started a franchise

with Ocho. I'm probably going to go with Mahomes on defense I don't know I say I say Ray I say Ray Lewis good one you saw what I did to Ray you gonna pick Ray

well I seen Ray smack you come across that middle that's one play what about the other hundred plays I smacked him? I know. Did you rate it to him in the end zone? That's one time. Oh, did he? No, he hit him coming across the middle.

You saw I got up and beat his ass, right? You saw I got up and beat his ass? What happened? What happened? What? You got up. What happened? Hey, what?

Ed Reed had to hold me back. Oh. Hey, I was about to sleep, Ray-ass boy. I got hit. Hey, I jumped for the ball. Man, he hit me up underneath my chin. My helmet went flying. Hey, I swore for God, Joe, before I hit the ground,

man, I was trying to get up before I... I thought your head was in the helmet. No, God, Joe, before I hit the ground, man, I was getting up. I was trying to get up before I hit the ground. I thought your head was in the helmet. No, no, no, no. Ray was finna get his hand. And let me tell you about a story, Joe. Go ahead. They didn't get a stop. So I waited for Ray outside the locker room, and I think he went out the back door

because we were going to have to square up. Yeah. He hit me like that. So I went to the team bus and was banging on the, you know, banging on the door, but he never come outside. I know. Yeah, yeah. You know they call me hella hands, right?

Yeah. Yeah, they call me hella hands. I didn't know that. Yeah, that's why I ran on the pipe. Like, sometimes, like, if I fight somebody, it feels like you're fighting two people. Like, that's why they call on a pipe. Sometimes, like, if I fight somebody, it feels like you're fighting two people. Like, that's why they call me Hella Hands. Yeah, because you Hella Legs because you're going to run.

Yeah, I mean, if you call a route, yeah, I'm going to run. That's about the only time. In the book, American Kings, a biography of the quarterback, author ESPN's reporter Seth Wickersham describes how Caleb Williams was so concerned about being drafted by the Bears that he and his family weigh in, circumventing the entire NFL draft.

They spoke to lawyers to find a way around the league's CBA and considered signing in the UFL. Chicago is the place where quarterbacks go to die. Carl Williams, who's his dad, said ahead of the draft, according to the book. In addition, none of the Bears coaches last season told Caleb Williams to watch film or give him zero help. No one tells me what to watch. I just turn it on. Coach O, what do you make about that revelation?

I mean, it's obviously, I mean, you look at what has happened to all the quarterbacks who have been a part of the Bears organization, and you can understand why Caleb Williams and his father felt that way. But that way for a reason, you know, look how they treated everybody that's come through that organization that has played the position. And the quarterbacks that did have success, they had success simply because the defenses in Chicago at the time were amazing, really good. So all you had to do was just facilitate and don't turn the ball over and defense will take care of everything else i think yes we are in a great situation now

especially with the supporting cast they have around them the addition of ben johnson and the rest of the coaches on that staff i think this is going to be the bears best year yet and they're going to surprise a lot of people every football, the main guns are always in contention. Your Eagles, your Bills, your Ravens, Bengals, if we start off to a fast start, your Chiefs, your Lions, and for some reason, I don't know why, and you can quote me on this, and that goes for everybody else in the chat. The Bears will be in contention, and one of those teams buying for a playoff spot and challenging for Lombardi simply because of not just the quarterback play, but with a great understanding of what Ben Johnson and his offensive creativity

can do for a skill set or the skill set that Caleb Williams has. And I'm going out on a limb and I'm saying that because I saw what he did in Detroit with Jerry Goff. Yeah. And he has a more athletic. Look, I'm not surprised by this. Carl Williams, who's Caleb Williams' father, it is his job to protect his son

and put him in the best possible situation. I don't have any problem with that because he said look you look at all the quarterbacks uh mitchell trubisky you look at uh uh justin fields you look at uh rex grossman you look at all the quarterbacks they've had they they have they haven't had any luck with the quarter it is what it is i mean and saying so he's well within his right to make sure that he's trying to put his son, his son is going to the best situation that gives him the best chance to succeed. Now, what do you think about the watching film, the coaches not giving him any direction? I don't know.

That's tough right there, especially at that position. Before you touch the field field the only way to prepare is by watching film on your opponents and knowing what you're going to see you know day to day week to week

so it's hard for me to believe that that there's no instruction in that area especially for the most important position on the field who has to know everything that's going on especially your opponent so that

that's it's i don't know that that's a little tricky uncle i think maybe they thought you a quarterback played in the top five program you got that word you were the usc maybe they just took for granted because a lot of times they they take granted like, bro, you played a big time program, bro, we ain't got to go over that. We can go ahead and skip that step and start getting to something else. Now, I just want to say this for us, for me.

The way we got tape cut up, Ocho, it was first and third, third one to three, third, one to three, third and three to five, third and long. But we had cut-ups.

Cover one, cover two, cover three, cover four, two-man, cover six, you know, whatever the case may be.

So it was broken down, so we watching it. And so we see, this is what they do in cover three. This is the front they give us. This is the coverage they play behind that front. I don't know. And like I said, I think maybe it was a situation they thought he already knew how to watch film.

Everybody, I didn't know how to watch film because we really didn't have to watch film, Mocho. Hell, if HBCU playing, man, coverage, hell, what the hell you think you're going to get? It wasn't about the disguise. It wasn't no cover two. It wasn't no single high. It wasn't no six kick. It wasn't no 88. It wasn't no cover two. It wasn't no single high. It wasn't no six kick. It wasn't no 88. It wasn't no box post.

It wasn't none of that. It was man. I wouldn't have expected to be man. I need to be with some people. What he doing? Why he ain't play? I'm literally asking, why he ain't got me man? What he doing? But nah, it's asking, why he ain't got me made? Why he ain't do it?

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didn't have receiver coach tight end coach no we have all that and no and that And that's one of the things that I really enjoyed, Unc, that it's not glorified on my end because of my style of playing, the way I play the game, but I was a student of the game, Unc. That's a part that people didn't even realize. I wasn't able to go out there and do what I did

by not studying like a goddamn nerd, you know? Because it's overshadowed by the fun and the entertainment and the celebrations and the flamboyancy and all the, all the shit talking. But dude, but when it was time to watch film, oh my goodness,

I needed to know everything. I need to know everything. I need to know what they, Travis was our person who broke down our film for me. He was our, he was our camera guy, our video guy uh in department yeah i had him break down all the clips of the previous four games of the individual you know

i got the number one corner every goddamn game traps i need everything on first second and third down right on these down the distances in our in our in our in our area before we get across the 50 and when we cross the 50, what they like to do. What coverage am I going to get? Is he going to bump? Is he going to play man? I'm looking at everything.

Is he a shade inside? Is he head up? Does he like outside leverage? You know, when a safety comes in? I'm talking about everything. I can tell you. I can tell you based on down and distance. I can tell you what they're going to run

when I'm coming out the huddle. And I know it. And I knew it. That's why I had such a confidence in my approach to the game because I studied like a goddamn, like a nerd. That's the only reason where that confidence came from. It wasn't about my talent or my skill or, you know, me running routes. It's just I know what you're doing before you even do it

at the snap of the ball. And that, that just, oh my God, man. Now, towards the end of my career, when my body, when my body wasn't able to react,

you know, the way it was when I was, when I was in my prime, being able to study film and knowing what was happening before it happened gave me a little bit of an edge when I might've lost a step a little bit yeah right yeah and I think that's the thing you look

at down the distance I mean we going over what they like to do in down the distance uh what they like to do in red zone what did I like to do back they got you backed up this is the coverage they like to play but that was always on the tape. And so I'm looking. And so, like I said, guys, look, I'm not trying to belittle anybody. I'm just saying maybe they thought this is something that he already knew. And so they didn't give him the instructions that he need. Me, I'm looking at it from the way we had it in Denver. It was broken down.

You plug, hey, third and one to three, cover one. Third and one to three, cover two. Third and one to three, quarters. Third and one to three, six. Two man, okay? Third and five. Third and long. Backed up.

Midfield. Red zone. Hey, and you know what When they play Hey, okay, nickel We will get Hey, this is the coverage Hey, they're not going to play A handful of coverage

They're not going to get all that Get too exotic They like things They like to do a couple of things They try to catch you off guard But when they're in nickel defense This is what they like to play And you know who the worst was

To watch on film It was worse because You know, you study coverages And you study things That teams like to play. And you know who the worst was to watch on film? It was because, you know, you study coverages and you study things that teams like to do, but they had the personnel, the goddamn Ravens and the goddamn Steelers

during the 2000s. Yeah. And they doing all type of exotic shit. Troy Pollock. That's Rick Ryan. That's Rick Ryan. Where's your camera go?

Yeah, I can't see you. I'm going to wait until you come back. Okay, well, anyway, anyway, chat, listen. The goddamn Ravens and the Steelers from the 2000,

that 2000 era, all that cover two and Philly Doll, they had all type of exotic stuff that just, it was like, it was confusing. So no matter how much film you watch, there was no telling what you're going to get on game day. I come out the goddamn huddle, you know, my split tight.

I'm looking at, I'm looking at the safety. Where the goddamn safety at? Hey, I'm looking goddamn Troy Polamalu and the goddamn Agap. What in the fuck are you doing and the goddamn agap so I'm hype I'm thinking I'm looking at Carson I'm hitting Carson over that because I'm thinking it's just me and Ike Taylor one-on-one man um I'm looking inside at the snap of the ball I look back up I'm running around This goddamn Troy done got way back to the goddamn third at the snap of the ball. Yep.

That damn Ed Reed, huh? Ed Reed. He's playing safety. He all the way in the back like it's punt return. What you doing? Just turn it down. So Ed is doing the opposite of what most safeties do. They sit there and they backpedal back.

Ed playing the game the opposite way. He start back and come forward. Yep. I love playing the Raiders and the Chiefs. Because you ain't getting my man coverage. Raiders, man to man. Chiefs, man to man. getting my man coverage. Raiders? Man to man. Chiefs? Man to man.

And they right in your face. Dale Carter and James Hasty right here. And they had Albert Lewis and Kevin Ross. And with the Raiders,

they had Washington and they had T-Mac. Terry McDaniel. Right there. They right there. He told you again.

Every time. Hey, Mike come in and say it's real simple this week, guys. You got to beat man coverage. Now, if you can't beat man coverage, you either coaching or selling cars. Now, my coaching staff filled up. I can't hire you. John, you hired anybody? You got any salespeople you need to hire? Nope, coach, I'm good. Okay, you're staff filled up. I can't hire you. John, you hired anybody? You got any salespeople you need to hire?

Nope, coach, I'm good. Okay, you're going to be without a job. Wickersham also said the Williams family thought of publicly attacking the Bears and the city of Chicago to try to force a trade. Concerned that the team would refuse a trade to him regardless and cause a worse situation, Caleb told Wickersham, I wasn't ready to nuke the city.

I can do it for this team. I'm going to be the, I'm going to, I'm going to the Bears. I like, I like it. I like it. And I'm telling you,

I know a lot of people might say what I just said. You know, it's laughable. It's a joke. They're a shit franchise. They might not like Caleb Williams for whatever reason, but I'm telling you, you got a quarterback like that

and you get off as a coordinator with that kind of creativity, understanding the strengths and the weaknesses of the supporting cast that Kayla Williams has around him, man, I think the sky's the limit. Look at the additions that he got. They fortified that offensive line. They drafted another offensive weapon at the tight end position. You got Roma, Dunzay, you took number one overall you just resigned, redid DJ Moore

so you've got weapons out to yin yang, you've fortified it so he should not be getting attacked from the defensive perspective like he had like he got last year so with that I think they got Joe Tooney and didn't they sign a guy from the Rams?

didn't they get the offensive lineman from the Rams? But they fortified their offensive line. Now look, he's going to have to do a better job of not getting rid of the football. Sometimes you got to know when the journey's over. Throw it away. Live to see another day. Don't take your team out of field goal range. And don't make it third and long.

Some things is going to be in his hands. I think he has a better understanding of that having played the game. Got a year up on his belt, Ocho. Things will slow down for him this year.

I know he's going to put the work in. I've talked to the young man and I know he's going to put the work in. And so, I'm excited. That's a very tough division,

Ocho. I mean, you got Green Bay. I mean, think about it. Green Bay went to the playoffs last year. Minnesota went to the playoffs last year. Detroit went to the playoffs last year. Yeah. And listen, chat, quote me and remember this.

Whatever day it is, it's Friday, Friday, May 16th. I guarantee you the Bears look like a totally. Today, Thursday. What am I talking about? Oh, it depends on where you are. Yeah, I'm in L.A., but my computer's safe. Okay. It's Thursday still.

But I'm telling you, the Bears, every year there's a team. Every year there's a team. Yeah, there's a couple of teams that pop up, you know, you didn't think they were going to be in the playoffs, and they end up being. I'm really wrong when I have my takes, even though they might sound terrible at times, but for some reason

they always, they turn into fruition. The Bears will be a team that's going to win. Who did sign offensive line? And that goddamn Jalen Johnson?

Yeah, Jonah Jackson. Yeah. So they fortified their offensive line, Ocho. They spent big money. Yeah, they got a center from the Falcons.

They got offensive linemen from the Rams and they got Joe Tooney, who's a pro bowl player, who's been an all pro. So they've done what they should do to make sure the offense flows smoothly. I think Caleb Williams takes another

step. He gets better. I think they take off, but they don't have a choice. Because they're in one of the toughest divisions in football. Yeah. They're in one of the toughest divisions. It might be the toughest division. Considering they had three teams represent the

NFC in the playoffs. Three of their four teams represented the playoffs. They are. They are. I mean, they had what? A 15-2 team? A 15-1 or a 15-2 team. They had a 14-2 or a 14-3 team. And they had, what, a 10-7 or a 11-16. So probably going to take you 10 wins, 11 wins just to make the playoffs,

don't you? And I believe they have the talent. I mean, like I said, I think they did what they need to do offensively to make sure because at the end of the day, you ain't doing nothing. I don't care how good your defense is. If you're offensive trash, you ain't going nowhere, bro. You're not. You're wasting your time.

And so they're like, look, we got the number one overall draft pick. Let's cut down on some of these sacks. I think he was the most sacked quarterback in the NFL. So if he can take 20 sacks off of that number, get his completion percentage up. I think he was 62%. Get that up around 66, 67. He's going to be all right. I think they'll be fine. Because I like what the Bears

have done. I like the hire of Ben Johnson. I love the addition of the tight end from Michigan. Although I thought Warren, the guy from Penn State, was better. In my estimation,

he was better than me. If I had to grade him, that's what I would do, but hey, they went with who they thought was going to be the best in their situation. I don't have a problem with that.

But, I mean, you hear rumblings behind the scenes that he's thinking about Chicago. It might not be the place for him considering they haven't developed a quarterback in an extended period of time. Hell, I don't know if they've ever developed a quarterback. You have to go back.

Wait, wait, wait. Like I said, they have Rex Grossman. What was the guy that got from Purdue? Ended up going to the Broncos. Kyle Lorton. Yeah, I remember Kyle. Yeah. Yeah. So, look. yeah so look it was reported that

he wanted to go to Minnesota because he and O'Connell hit it off he said man I really love to play maybe he saw Jettle with him Hawkinson. Addison.

That, that probably didn't hurt either. Well, it got, but I think he did. I think he's in a great situation. Look, you went in Chicago.

You went to Chicago. They're going to love you. That's an old school team. They love big Myers. They've been around in this thing for a hundred plus years. They love the bears. They love the bears this thing for 100 plus years. They love the Bears. They love the Bears players. That was a football town.

I mean, they love the Cubbies too now. So I think the Bears, the Bears is all right. The Cubbies got what was that, 2016? When did they win the championship? 2016? After 100 plus years? They're like, okay. All right, Bears.

Y'all haven't won since 85. 40 years. Come on now. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle.

Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover

the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.