Nightcap - Nightcap NFL Recap - Part 1: Mahomes not a fan of NFL expansion + CMC comeback Season?!?

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

Unc and Ocho can’t believe how this NFL player got scammed for $200K+ and discuss what needs to happen for NFL expansion.   0:00 - Big Ben on having Rodgers or Mahomes on his team12:28 - Ma...homes not a fan of extending NFL season31:15 - Christian McCaffrey bounce back season34:48 - Najee Harris suffers superficial eye injury44:05 - Vikings LB falls victim to phone scam48:25 - Mark Andrews and the Ravens51:36 - Trevor Lawrence has high praise for Travis Hunter   (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:38 or wherever you get your podcasts. Ben Roethlisberger felt compelled to recently weigh in on whether he'd rather have Aaron Rogers or Patrick Mahomes on his team. Well, I would take Aaron in his prime over Patrick now. I think Aaron Rogers' prime was one of the few to ever do it. And so Patrick is at his prime. Patrick Mahomes is just entering, just entering out of his prime, I think. Does Ben realize how utterly ridiculous he sounds?
Starting point is 00:02:04 Yeah, yeah. But obviously, you know, he's going to go with someone A contemporary. Right, exactly. Someone a little closer to him despite the success, the early success in such an early career that Patrick Mahomes has had. Obviously, Ben knows how great Pat is, but obviously, Ann Rogers was special despite not being able to have the number of Super Bowls, only having one. But if you look at Aaron Rodgers' numbers in his prime, it's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:02:33 It's unbelievable despite him not being able to win the big games consistently like Pax of my Homes has done. So I thought that was the objective because people make it seem like Aaron Rodgers did not have good teams Go back and look at the receivers that he had go back and look at the receiver that he had and go back and look At do you believe the last three Super Bowls? Aaron Rodgers could have got that that receiving group to the Super Bowl Consider he could only get to the Super Bowl one time withy Nelson with Greg Jennings with Donald Driver with James Jones with Michael Friendly
Starting point is 00:03:09 So do you believe? He could take that group that Patrick Mahomes took He couldn't get that man couldn't be Jimmy Garoppolo But somehow he gonna get to and he gonna win the Subo Yeah, the MVP's are impressive chat y'all know I've been one of the biggest, one of the loudest Aaron Rodgers fans. He's phenomenal. He was phenomenal. But to base it on Patrick my homes, Patrick my homes in 21 postseason games is 17 and four
Starting point is 00:03:44 three Super Bowl wins Aaron Rodgers in 22 postseason games is 17 and four. Three Super Bowl wins. Aaron Rodgers in 22 postseason games is 12 and 10 with one Super Bowl win. Yeah. And that, you know, also- Now, and look at the guys that he's lost to. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Tom Brady beat him twice, Joe Burrow beat him, and now Jalen Hurts beating. Now go look at the guys that beat Aaron Rodgers in a playoff game. The main fact, the man got beat by Jimmy G. Twice. Hold on, Jimmy G had a nice squad around him now.
Starting point is 00:04:21 He had a nice squad around him and all Jimmy G had to do, Jimmy, don't mess it up. I tell you what. He's gonna take. Jimmy, don't mess it up. I tell you what. Take the ball. Don't mess it up. Give Patrick Mahomes that squad. Give Patrick, okay, if I give Patrick Mahomes that squad, what you think? You think Gary Rogers beating Patrick, he gonna beat Patrick Mahomes with that squad?
Starting point is 00:04:37 Because you say Jimmy G. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You put Mahomes around any team. Yes! Listen, Mahomes is one of the few quarterbacks, unk, you can put him on any team and it elevates everyone else around him. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Elevates everyone else around him because he just that good. Not only physically, but he gonna beat you here too. Yes! I mean, bro, he beat Jay Cutler. Jay Cutler got hurt and got on the stationary back. He thought he was at a tour de France. So he didn't want to play football no more.
Starting point is 00:05:09 He just wanted to ride the stationary bike. I mean, you beat who you beat to get to the Super Bowl. But I look, this has been Roethlisberger's opinion, but I vehemently disagree with this. Yeah. Vehemently. And I think the thing is he's basically get on MVPs. He's basically on MVP. And Aaron Rodgers has four. Yeah. But look at those great seasons that came out to be done. See, the thing is, is that, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:05:36 can you do, if you got a great offense, can you get done? Can you score a point when you need to? If you're a great defense, can you get done? Can you score a point when you need to? If you're a great defense, can you get a stop when you need to? Can you get off the field on third down? Can you get your offense to ball back? Can you not let them flip the field? You got them backed up. Can you make them stay there and not flip the field? Get the ball to midfield and then put it
Starting point is 00:06:01 and pin you down inside the five. Can you do that? Aaron Rodgers has four regular season MVPs, one Super Bowl, a Super Bowl MVP. Patrick Mahomes has two Super Bowl, has two MVPs, three Super Bowl MVPs. He's been to five. And you're saying, now let me sink in. The man has already been to more Super Bowls, has more regular, has more been to more Super Bowls, has more regular, has more post season wins, has more, has more MVPs and he's not even 30. Yeah. And I think it's more to it than that.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Obviously we don't know what Ben is indicating, why he picked Aaron Rogers. But also I want people not to forget how special Aaron Rogers was as well. He's just what Ben said. And I'll get that he was as a quarterback. Oh, he was as physically gifted during the football. In general. He and Dan Marino, I'm talking about just pure thorns of the football and Rodgers, Dan Marino, take your pick.
Starting point is 00:06:54 But this is what he said, Ocho. Yeah. I think Aaron in his prime was one of the top few to ever do it. And so Patrick at his prime, Patrick Mahomes is just entering out of his prime. So you so in other words, he said Aaron was one of the top to do it, but Patrick isn't. Because I would say that we say he said, I think Aaron Rodgers in his prime was one of the top to ever do it. So if by his by his what
Starting point is 00:07:21 his word said, Patrick Mahomes is coming out of his prime, he wasn't one of the top to ever do it. So from 23 to 39, he goes to five Super Bowls, wins three, three MVPs, two regular season MVPs, two 5,000 yard seasons, and a 50 touchdown season. But he ain't one of the top, who would not want to top you to ever to ever do it now you chat do y'all see how utterly ridiculous that sounds now I hope we got this right let's just make sure we got this right double-check that well I would take Aaron in his prime over Patrick now I think Aaron Rogers in his prime was one of the top you to ever do it and so is Patrick at
Starting point is 00:08:02 his prime Patrick Mahomes is just entering out of his prime, I think. So he think Patrick Mahomes is out of his prime now, Ojo. Yeah, I don't know. But obviously Ben being a quarterback that played with, not with, but against Aaron Rodgers, I think that's where he's picking him instead of instead of. Yeah, because I think Ben came in in 04 and I think Aaron came in in 05. So you know, you see that's kind of like. Right, right, right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:08:34 That's the error. Yeah, I don't know about that one. Yeah. Tejas on. Yeah, I was going to say everyone has a preference, you know, sometimes the goalposts move regardless of what the accolades and what someone has done. There's always someone else that they like better regardless. This is what Patrick Mahomes, trainer had to say to Ben. Not everybody quits working out at 30 being
Starting point is 00:09:14 He said that for real yeah Okay, that's my first time here. That's my first time here when the trainers talk trash. I like that. I like that Oh, I thank you. I think he commented because there was a somebody I think in the Kansas City media Talked about Patrick Mahomes and talked about his body look like he eat pizza and stuff like that I want my quarterback to look just like Patrick Mahomes. I Want my quarterback to look with his shirt off look like Tom Brady look like Peyton Manning I would that's what I want my quarterback to look like no muscle. I don't want no muscles, right? I don't want no muscles. I want to have because I want him to be able to twist. I don't want him to just strain it. Straining no obliques.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Right. Right. Right. I don't want all that all that muscle now the shoulder that that hindered. Right. So, basically, you want your quarterback to look have a dad bod. That's what a granddad is possible. You just keep over there. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. Like I said, look, and that's not to take away from Aaron because like I said chat. Y'all know me. Y'all saw me on the other show. I was and I still think Aaron Rogers is is was phenomenal. Is he what he once was? No. As we get older, as an athlete gets older, where he could elevate everybody else, now he needs help for him to elevate.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Look at Tom. Right. Tom, he had, he couldn't get, he was not going to be able to get those Patriots because now he goes to Tampa and he got Godwin and he got Mike Evans. And he got, he get Gronk to come back and he got other some other weapons and he got a solid offensive line and you see but after that Super Bowl you see time through for what 5000 yards but it didn't have the same up to it. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:58 It didn't have the same like those like he throw for 300 yards but the majority of time they were playing from behind. And so the 300 yards didn't have the same pizzazz. It didn't have the same impact. Right. Like I said, there's no denying Aaron Rodgers is a top quarterback. Wherever you want to place him, I don't think you can put him in top five because he didn't win enough championships to beat top five, Especially when you're talking about Brady and you're talking about Manning and you're talking about Joe Montana
Starting point is 00:11:29 and you're talking about Mahone boy, just that alone. Just that alone keeps him out. But I don't know if you can keep him out of the top 10. Cause those four regular season MVPs, only Peyton Manning has more. The touchdown, the interception ratio. Yeah, I don't know how you keep him out of the top 10. Right? I don't. I'm surprised that he didn't make the 75th anniversary team.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Because you know, they tried to date they didn't want to load up in any one particular era, they can't say, well, let's take all the guys from the modern era. And then we leave guys like Johnny Uninas or Otto Graham or some of these other guys out. So, you know, look, Joe, Peyton and Tom, those three were going, they're gonna be on this anniversary team. And then they took John, they took Marino, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Now off the top of my head, I can't remember. I think Johnny U-9-us, I think he was there. I think Otto Graham was there, seven. Like I said, I don't really remember all of them, but I think they tried to get a mixture. They didn't wanna load up and say, okay, we just gonna take the receivers from, because you gotta take Don Husson.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Now you leave out Charlie Henning, and Jerry and Randy for me. I thought T.O. deserved to be on the 75th anniversary. I really absolutely. We talk about the top three top. You might not like his antics and said, OK, he killed a locker room. All I know is this.
Starting point is 00:12:59 That man got the third or the fourth most touchdowns ever. Well, he got the third most touchdowns for a receiver. Mm-hmm. See, and that's the problem that I have, is the people that have the power, that call the shots, that control everything on who's allowed to be on this list, who's allowed to be in that.
Starting point is 00:13:20 That's why I don't like the politics that come with it. I don't like the politics that come with it. I don't like the politics that come with it. Why do you think I don my own jacket? Why do you think I don my own jacket? Because I understood how it works and I'm not going to play that game. Because as far as I'm concerned, I'm one. It's one thing I don't like, and I'm going to just say this real quick. One thing I don't like about former players that had great careers,
Starting point is 00:13:43 and they know they've had great careers and they have their numbers. I hate the almost begging in a sense to be a part of something that was created and you have to pander to want to be in it. It's like being an actor and knowing that you had great movies, that you've had a great career doing movies but you never want to Oscar. That doesn't take away none of the work that you've already done. That's set in stone. All right, Ocho. Patrick Mahomes says he's not a big fan of potentially expanding to NFL regular season of 18 games. I would say more games, a little bit more tacking on the guys that play the game. If there is a way to get 18 games in the schedule, I think you have to have a way to have more buy weeks that spread it out. You've seen the amount of injuries that kind of piled up out there at the end
Starting point is 00:14:28 of the season. You want to have the best players playing in the biggest game. So if there's a way to get 18 games, I'm not a big fan of it. But if there's a way, I think you've got to add some bye weeks in there and give guys and give give time for guys body. Check out behind the flow a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego football club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved. San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team. We need veteran players and we need young players. Like, you're building a team from scratch. And so the succession plan of long-term success needs to be defined.
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Starting point is 00:15:50 going to look back. It is a special six episode series where myself, Greg Rosenthal and some of the top NFL minds like Kevin Harlan, Mina Kimes, and Bill Barnwell make the case for each player. We're taking a look back, giving you NFL Daley's top 25 players of the last 25 years. So who made the list? You know, Tom Brady's on it. Where's Patrick Mahomes? Mahomes is into the end zone! Touchdown Kansas City! He's on it. How about Lamar Jackson? Jackson takes it himself.
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Starting point is 00:16:50 And we can go longer without pay than you can. Yeah. So we gonna lock you out. And as a stipulation of us coming back, you're going to have to agree to 18. It's really that simple. Just like they locked them out in 2011 and took a bigger piece of the pie.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Yes sir. Yeah, well listen, you know what else is going to happen is you already know once, once it's, it's talked about, they're going to do it with the, with the NFLPA and the CB, I mean, the CBA, whatever CB is, is going to come about. They're going to have to have two by weeks. I think that's something that the owners and it used to have two by weeks. Huh? It used to be two by weeks. Oh, well, they, they're going to have, they're going to have to buy weeks. I think that's something that the owners and it used to have to buy weeks. Oh Joe. Huh? It used to be two by weeks. Oh, well they they don't have they don't have they don't have to have it because there's two taxing on the players bodies and yeah what Pat and the homes is talking about and they're gonna be playing football of St. Patrick's Day. Yeah. Oh Joe, think about it now. You You already the second week in February So if you add a bye week now now you got the Super Bowl Oh Joe you in March Yeah, yeah, and you know what the offseason gonna be shorter and shorter shorter shorter shorter, but obviously this is money
Starting point is 00:17:57 This is all about money. It's about the bottom line We know the NFL is about they're about them their money and maximizing it the best way they can and adding the 18th game Is the best way to do that. Oh Joe, you want 18? You want 18 games? Guarantee it. I want everything guaranteed. And I won't lie, I won't, and if I, if I, if I,
Starting point is 00:18:17 first of all, if I make it five years, I want lifetime health benefits. Ooh. And I want my salary guaranteed. Now there's stories that came out that the collusion case in the junk and they got verbatim that Roger Goodell was talking, saying, man, y'all got to keep these prices down because these things getting astronomical. Come back on some of that guaranteed money. I still don't understand how he said there was
Starting point is 00:18:46 collusion there but they didn't show another I don't know we we're talking about that a late daytime when I can read up a little bit more on it but I just saw I was just skimming through and saw that but don't you know it's coming yeah but you see how quick they went from 17 to 18 think about how long it took him to go from 14 to it took them so to go from 12 to 14 from 14 to 16 and from 16 to 17 it's gonna take them less time to go from from 16 to 18 than it did to go from there uh 12 to 14 to 14 to uh 16 well you got it you have to you also have to understand not only the salary caps keep going up but the money got to keep coming from somewhere
Starting point is 00:19:24 they yes you gotta add games that's the only way you can do it. That's it They got to be able to recoup They got to be able to make more the only way to make more and understanding the bottom line between Not only sponsors the NFL and everyone in general you got to add more games. That's the way to make Let me tell you Ocho when this thing come back up for bid, don't be surprised if the game that you used to see it on Fox, they're on Netflix, they're on Amazon because they got way, they're sitting on hoards of money. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And you see both are dipping their toe. Amazon has already gone in. They said, look, we want that Thursday night package. And now the NFL is saying, we gonna flex the Thursday night package for you. We'll flex it for you. And plus they got the what? They got the black Friday game.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Netflix, you saw Netflix got the Christmas game. Don't be surprised if the NFC package, the AFC package or the Sunday night package, or the Sunday night package, Right. Is it one of these streaming services? Yeah. Hey, don't be surprised because I'm telling you what they got.
Starting point is 00:20:32 They got unlimited resources. Yeah, yeah. I'm not the one that said it. I'm not the one that said it, but I was in a meeting. I was in a meeting. I can say this, you know, and I talked to brother Jeff Bezos
Starting point is 00:20:44 and he's going to be the one, he can say this, you know, and I talked to brother Jeff Bezos and he's going to be the one, he's going to be the one that's going to make the moves and pull the strings to have most of the games on his platform. I'm just telling you before it even happens. Yeah I know, because Netflix, like I said, look I understand it and it's been traditions because CBS has had a package. Everybody's had the package, gave it up and got it back. Fox became a network because they got football.
Starting point is 00:21:11 CBS gave it up, NBC gave it up, they got it back. Then NBC say, you know, we can't do it out it. We gotta get back into it. But I'm telling you what's gonna happen. I'm telling you what's gonna happen. Yeah. And you already saw what Amazon played for the NBA. If they're playing that for the NBA, what the hell would they play for the NFL?
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yeah. Yeah. Owners getting the piece of that now. Huh? You don't think that? Everybody getting a check cut for 300 million. 300 plus. And I ain't sold no ticket. I ain't sold no concession. I ain't sold no parking. I haven't sold local TV. Yeah. And I haven't sold local advertising. Huh? And then guess what? They haven't so far.
Starting point is 00:22:04 The Olympics. That's where the opening ceremony is going to be held. the Taylor Swift was out there for a week. Man. Hey, Stan, it's Stan, right? Stan making a killing. Stan Cronkite. Stan making a killing over there. Huh? Yeah, that's what the whole thing. You gotta own, you gotta own the building. Because when you own the building, now,
Starting point is 00:22:36 hey, didn't they have national championship games out there? Absolutely. Hey, the Georgia Dome. Don't they have, what do they have there? SEC Championship. They have the college football playoffs, one of the games be there. The national championship game is there. Beyonce coming, as a matter of fact,
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Starting point is 00:23:22 The only strings I got for you But nah, but it's happening. They're the only strings I got for you. But nah, but it's happening, Ocho, it's gonna happen. I think I was reading, in 2029, they could opt out. We gonna opt out. So if I'm the NFL, if I'm the players right now, oh, I'm saving my money. Cause I know, especially if I'm a young player,
Starting point is 00:23:41 oh, I'm saving my money, Ocho, cause I know they're gonna put the squeeze on me. Yeah, even though they put a squeeze, this is the problem. This is the problem with the player. It's so many of them. It's so many of them. And everybody ain't going to... Because see, they look at it like you think.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I know what you're about to say. Talk to me. Because everybody ain't going to be Patrick Mahomes and make Joe Burrow them tight money. Bingo. It's the guys that say, man, please, I got me three or four years. I can't afford to miss one of these years. Exactly. Exactly. And listen, and when you think about it, the way they spend during the season,
Starting point is 00:24:12 sometimes during the offseason, that long break without those checks come out. Oh, yeah. You need to be in season for them to check to start rolling. November, December, January is basically when you get your money and then you do the playoff money. So for five months that you play, you make your money. After that, you're on your own. You better save it. But Ocho, this is what I love most about the MLB and the NBA. Yeah. Sometimes a man must plant a tree with the realization he'll never enjoy the shade that it produces.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Ocho, don't do that. Ocho, go on and write that one down. Sometimes a man must plant a tree with the realization he'll never enjoy the shade in which it produces. Come on now. Sometimes a man must do something when he's not going to benefit from it. You see, Kurt Flood never benefited from free agency. A lot of these NBA players didn't benefit from it. You see, Kurt Flood never benefited from free agency. A lot of these NBA players didn't benefit from free agency, but they were willing to sacrifice
Starting point is 00:25:11 for the greater good of the game. Yes, sir. Just think about it. Think about what your grandmother and my grandmother and great and so forth and so on, what they sacrificed and never got an opportunity to enjoy some of the rewards that came alone from their sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Hell, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if
Starting point is 00:25:44 I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I can't, if I ain't. Yeah. Yeah. Look at all the look at all. They locked it down. MLB the players say you know what y'all want to do to y'all y'all y'all playing around with us. Shut it down. Yeah. Ain't no postseason. Ain't no World Series. Ain't nothing. Nothing. Until we get exactly what we want. And you know what's funny? I don't think the players understand how much power they have. The players don't understand how much power they have if they was the band together and say, we ain't playing.
Starting point is 00:26:11 We we're not, we're not playing and we go, okay, we're going, we want to go deadlock. Okay, we want to go cold. Okay, bet. Let's play the game, but it would take for everybody to be on board. Yes, and I guarantee they get they won't. Oh, you want guaranteed contracts? Say you ain't playing and watch what happened.
Starting point is 00:26:31 But the realization of everybody buying in and understanding for the greater good and not just you, but everybody can come after you. Somebody will have to take a stand. No, they won't do that, Ocho. No. No. No, that's difficult. That's difficult. That many players, that many players, you know, the top boys can pull it off.
Starting point is 00:26:59 The top dudes can definitely pull it off, but not everybody else. They rely on that. Ocho. top dudes can definitely pull it off, but not everybody else. They rely on that. Oh, Joe. What happened? Like I said, just think of all those people. That were fighting for freedoms that they didn't get a chance to enjoy. Think about all the people that was fighting for privileges that they didn't get a chance to enjoy.
Starting point is 00:27:30 If all they thought about, well hell, I ain't gonna benefit from it. Right. I ain't gonna be able to make millions and billions. I'm not gonna be able to own a business. I'm not gonna be able to ride wherever I want to. I'm not gonna be able to go into any restaurant that I want to. Just imagine.
Starting point is 00:27:53 I think some of the greatest mistakes that one can make is to think everybody thinks like you. There's no way, there's no, there's no way there's no reason for the NFL players not to have guaranteed contracts. No, not at all. They got it in soccer, they got it in basketball, they got it in baseball. And granted, they play, they play a lot of games, they do. But they weren't giving them that until they struck. Yeah until they say we gonna shut it down But see the difference is and and the players look like I said, I don't call nobody out
Starting point is 00:28:34 Y'all can go back and look in 1987 the NFL is struck twice. It struck in 1980. It's oh sure That's the part of my beard. I had birthday. I Think I didn't get no cake. You ain't even sent me no birthday Happy birthday uncle nut. But anyway, I Did tell you you forgot I called you Yeah, you did you ain't said no money though, huh? Hey, Harvey, you heard I got hey, I got I got I got your money right here What good is but we're getting that a minute. Oh go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Hold on, go ahead, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:29:05 The best part, the best part of being my age, I turned 57 three and a half weeks ago. Damn! Is that I remember in 1982 when the players struck. And I remember in 1987 when the players struck. And I ain't gonna call nobody out. But y'all go back and look at the players that crossed that picket line
Starting point is 00:29:26 Some of your favorite players, mm-hmm If the best players will cross the picket line and go back and play What chance to the fourth rounders the fifth rounders? What chance do they have Ocho the guy that's not making the hundred back then a hundred thousand three hundred thousand dollars for the thousand dollars With a lot of money. That's big money boy back then a hundred thousand, three hundred thousand dollars, four hundred thousand dollars was a lot of money. That's big money, boy. Back then?
Starting point is 00:29:47 So if the guy that's making four hundred, five hundred, seven hundred thousand, if he'll cross the picket line, what chance the guy that's making 60,000, what he gonna do? What chance he got? You right. Ochoa, as a matter of fact, 2011, you was in the lockout. When they changed the doors and let y'all go in there.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Hold on, boy, when it was a lockout, right? Yeah. But when there's a lockout, that means contractually you can do whatever you want to do because there is no contract. I was doing all type of wild shit. I was the wrong one to say we in a lockout. You were the wrong one to turn loose, huh? Listen, I would, I would ride, I would ride in bulls. turn and lose her. Listen, I was riding bulls.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Listen, I was doing everything I had no business doing. I was having fun. But see, it was different because you have to understand, I was working year round. I wasn't tripping. I'm doing reality shows. I'm on TV. I'm doing all type of stuff. So actually, it was a seven, eight year period is I was working year round.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I'm playing football, football season over. Hell, I'm doing TV. You know, so my situation was a little different, but I just, man, if them boys band together, boy, it would change the dynamic of the league in general. But it's so many players. It's so many players. All you got to do is look at what Roger Goodell, what he wanted in his contract negotiations. He didn't mention nothing about working less hours. He wanted lifetime health benefits. He say, I'll take, I want my money, X amount of dollars. He want private, fly private.
Starting point is 00:31:27 He'll lifetime health benefits, because that's the quickest way to walk, unless you got hundreds of millions of dollars, like some of these guys on the show, they're going to be exempt. Right. Guy making 500, going to make 500, 600 million dollars. He'll be exempt But so everybody ain't making that kind of money Some of these guys gonna need Medicaid. Yeah, I Don't like to be the bearer of bad news, I don't like to be the harbinger But somebody gonna get gonna need Medicare that play professional sports, yes, sir. It's just a sad reality of it. Yeah, I
Starting point is 00:32:14 Hate that I wish I wish guys I wish a more I wish some guys do and I get it Oh, I really do saw the bigger picture It did. Damn. Speaking of standing your ground, the Texans gave Jayden Higgins the first fully guaranteed second round rookie deal ever.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Now, almost every second round pick of 32 is still unsigned and is actually refusing to sign. Rookie contracts will never be the same. Second round, Trey Harris officially has a holdout. The report that charges camp, Shamar Stewart was still holding out and Sensei, will rookies hold out trying to get guaranteed contracts because they're trying.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Sensei Nat is trying to get guaranteed contracts because they're trying Cincinnati is trying to set a precedent one way. Somebody else trying to set a precedent, the rookies trying to set a precedent, they say moving forward all rookie contracts about to be guaranteed. I like it. Yeah, I do too. I do too. Listen, a stand like that is something that they have to do.
Starting point is 00:33:21 If you want things to change, it got to start with somebody. It has to start with somebody. Obviously the NFL and the teams, they do it contractually to set a precedent. Doesn't mean you have to take it. They just going to be at a standstill. Who's going to fold first? That's what it comes down to. The funny thing about it is if you don't want to play with great understanding in regards to where you're drafted, they will replace you too. Yeah, for sure. Hey, they will replace you. So you got to understand the game that you are playing.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Yep. Does the damage, does the damage, does this damage the reunion's reputation after the collusion story came out. And it came out because Pablo Torre was digging. Because the union and the NFL, they agreed to keep it hush-hush. Yeah. But it ain't hush-hush no more. And something going to have to give. Something got. Hell nah. And something gonna have to give. Something gotta give, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Something gotta give. Who gonna fold first? Kyle Juszczyk, the great fullback from the San Francisco 49ers, expecting a bounceback season for Christian McCaffrey, which would help the 49ers bounce back from a 6-11 season. This is what Juszczyk said. Christian is arguably the best player in the NFL. He was offensive player of the year two years ago. He changes everything.
Starting point is 00:34:51 He looks incredible. He looks so healthy. He looks so explosive. McCaffrey began last season on injury reserve, injured this season on injury reserve. When we first started the show, Ocho, what'd that say? If you limp into the season, how you going out this season, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:35:05 You gonna limp out the season. He missed eight games with a bilateral Achilles tendonitis and then played only 167 snaps before a posterior cruciate ligament ended his season. Ocho, CMC have a bounce back season? Absolutely as possible. So he just welcomed a baby girl. Yep is possible. That's all he just welcomed. He just welcomed a baby girl. Yep.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Congratulations. Here's his wife, Olivia. Yep. But he definitely can. I mean, listen, CMC is a special running back. He's a special running back. He can do it all. He can do it all.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And he changes the dynamic of that offense when he's available to play. He can run it. He can catch it out the backfield. And he makes everything easier for that offense. There are certain players at NFL, when you're on that offense, it makes the offense coordinator's job easy, it makes the quarterback job easy, because they can do so much. Most of the time when it comes to offense, the coordinator's in this, you call them plays, you have to call them in a way to hide certain weaknesses. A player like McCaffrey, your whole playbook is open, opens up everything.
Starting point is 00:36:12 It opens up everything. There are very few players on each team like that. Every team doesn't have them, which makes often the coordinating job that much more difficult. But when you have a player like that, it makes everything else easy because they're so good at what they do. Yeah, he's special. He's special. The thing is, Ocho, he's not a naturally big man. And he plays a, and he plays
Starting point is 00:36:38 probably the most physically demanding position, which is the running back position. As not a naturally big man. He's not Saquon. He not a naturally big man. He's not Saquon. He's not Derrick Henry. He's not Joe Mixon. He's not Josh Jacobs. He's probably going to 205. If that. That's being generous. If that. And you're asking him to do And you're asking him to do 275 between 275 and
Starting point is 00:37:09 323 325 350 touches Now it'll be fine. But what happens when um They hit him He hit the dirt and then they fall on top of him. Mm-hmm Yeah So I think that you know,, you're going to have to be judicious. I mean, look, we got a weapon. I want to use it. I mean, what am I saving it for? Right.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I want to use it. Right. It like you got a will. Man, such as I got a bad man. Man, I heard, oh, man, what you bring the car. Man, I heard you got it. I heard you got that thing, man. I heard Ocho, man, why don't you bring the car? Man, I heard you got, Ocho, I heard you got that thing, man. Let me see it. What good is having a nice car, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:37:50 if you just go sit in the garage? It's like, man, we got Christian McCaffrey. We got one of the most versatile running backs in all of football, and we not gonna use it? Because of the potential that he might get hurt? No, we pay it for you. If you get hurt, we'll deal with it. But when you the highest paid running back at what night?
Starting point is 00:38:08 Well, I think he's the second highest paid now behind Saquon, cause I think Saquon's at 20 million a year. And I think Christian's like at 19. I gotta give him touches. I gotta hand it to him. I gotta throw it to him. Whatever the case may be,
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Starting point is 00:39:24 25 years, 25 players. Before training camp kickstarts a new NFL season, NFL Daily is going to look back. It is a special six episode series where myself, Greg Rosenthal, and some of the top NFL minds like Kevin Harlan, Mina Kimes, and Bill Barnwell make the case for each player. We're taking a look back, giving you NFL Daly's top 25 players of the last 25 years. So who made the list? You know Tom Brady's on it. Where's Patrick Mahomes?
Starting point is 00:39:53 Mahomes is under the end zone! Touchdown, Kansas City! He's on it. How about Lamar Jackson? Jackson takes it himself. Look at him dart back and forth. Oh! He broke his ankles! And he's got a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:40:08 He is Houdini. You are going to have to listen to find out. Listen to NFL Daily's top 25 players of the last 25 years, starting on June 30th on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. George is running back, Najee Harris suffered a superficial eye injury at the fireworks mishap at the 4th of July event last week. According to his agent, Najee Harris was present
Starting point is 00:40:37 at the 4th of July event where fireworks mishap resulted in an injury to several attendees. Najee sustained a superficial eye injury during the incident but is fully expected to be ready for an upcoming NFL season. Ocho, you see? I don't play by them fireworks bro. Why you don't play Ocho? I don't play by them fireworks. Listen, I don't play by them fireworks. When it comes to fireworks and the kids want fireworks lit, I allow someone else to light fireworks. I don't play by that.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Listen, especially the eye area. But listen, how long you got? Hey, what about JPP? Have you not learned about JPP? Hey, you ain't got to tell me twice. Even before JPP's incident, I'm not playing with them fireworks. Just with understanding what happens if it goes off.
Starting point is 00:41:27 What happens if it goes off? I don't like that. I don't like that. I give enough space between me and any fireworks display. A lot of space, just in case something might tip over. I'm able to move and react. I don't pay that at all. And he had an eye incident?
Starting point is 00:41:50 I don't play that. Hey, anything that cannot be replaced, I don't be fooling around with that. My eye, all this right here, artificial, no eyes, my nose, my face, no, I don't play that. I only got one good eye as it is. Yeah. I only got one good eye as it is. Yeah. I only got one good eye as it is.
Starting point is 00:42:07 I am not losing nothing else. Yeah. Absolutely not. You like me? My thing ain't full far as whittical, but you know it's headed in that direction. Oh, listen. Listen, you know what?
Starting point is 00:42:19 People probably would never believe me, Uncle. I never forget. 1993. I'm going to tell a quick story real quick. quick 1993 I woke up with inflammation in my eye similar to swimming under salt water if anybody's been in the ocean you look under salt water you know you can't see nothing woke up one morning my grandma thought it was pink eye we woke up she said you're not going to school whatever few days go by nothing nothing happens the pink eye the, all went away,
Starting point is 00:42:46 but I still couldn't see out my right eye. Grandma take me to the doctor, some type of inflammation on the inside, I'm not sure what it was, blah, blah, blah. I go have surgery. Had surgery to clear up whatever it was. So at that point, remember how Biggie Small's eye, he want his eye to be up?
Starting point is 00:43:02 Yeah, yeah. You had one eye that looked straight ahead and the other on the slide to be scanning. So my eye was like that. The majority through high school, obviously, where it was very, very lazy, very lazy. So whatever happened, I don't remember what the procedure was, but I could never see out of my right eye since 1993.
Starting point is 00:43:23 So at some point, doing certain, I forgot, not drills, but finding ways to strengthen, even though I couldn't see out of it, I still look like I'm looking at you now. It wasn't as bad as it used to be. Sometimes if I lock in long enough on an object or looking at my phone, my eye would just drift on its own. Yeah. Now it's hard to notice.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And people say, why you always wear glasses? So I always have glasses on most of the time because my eye would drift off sometimes. And the funny thing about it is I played my entire career with one eye. I can only see out my left eye. And the funny thing, I can talk about it now. If you ever watch me catch the ball in the NFL,
Starting point is 00:44:04 every catch you see, you'll always notice, I wait till the ball gets about right here. Yeah, you wait till the ball get up on you. I wait, because I can't see it. Most of the time, if you have both eyes, you can catch it from, I mean, you can see it. Yeah, you looking at the ball, you see it, you try to pick it up as soon as you possibly can.
Starting point is 00:44:20 You try to get it out here. Bingo! I couldn't see the ball, until it got at least right here. And then I would just have to be able to every catch. Now, I rarely caught up my body, but I had to wait until it got close to me in order to catch it, to see it in sight. And that's the story.
Starting point is 00:44:35 I really never, you know, I never really shared that story. But in this eye over here, I'm like 90, maybe 120, or 90, 20, something like that. But in my left eye, there I'm 20. You mean 20, 20 something like that. But in my left eye Yeah, I'm me 20 20 vision is based on 20 20 No 20 20 in my left eye, but right eye like 90 I mean it's bad on mmm, like the big the biggest letters on the on the eye chart Yeah, cover if you cover my left eye. I can't even see I can't
Starting point is 00:45:01 Not sure it's bad. It's real bad. All right Well, I'll make sure I't even see the biggest les on the I chart. It's it's bad. It's real bad. Alright, well, I'll make sure I put that thing to your head on the right side so you won't see what I got. You won't give me my money. Oh, I got you. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Hey, I got I got your money, right? I got your money, right? I got your money. You got it? Yeah, I got, listen, I got 10, 20, 30, 40. No, that ain't enough. Hold on, I got 50,000 for you right here. Yeah, I got you, baby, I got you. Listen, whatever you need, I'll send you a little extra.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Matter of fact, how long has been? How long has been? You know, you know how long it's been. Tell me how long it's been, it's been what? We bet at the beginning of the season. We did? Yes. Okay, listen, how much interest I owe you?
Starting point is 00:45:59 Man, just shoot your boy a cool 5,900, 6,000, make it even. Okay, okay, I got you. Matter of fact, you know what I'm gonna Let me tell you that's how much I love you Whatever you paid for the dog. I'm gonna pay for the dog, too So i'm gonna shoot i'm gonna give you i'm gonna see you 6 000 and whatever you pay for the dog I'm gonna shoot that on top of it. Well, you know what I will put this in the mail tomorrow Hey
Starting point is 00:46:21 Hey, man, man me my shit, man We've been on vacation three weeks. You keep it, keep it all the wars, man. I forgot all about that. Hey, send me that, man. Send me that. Hey, the web is supposed to be here next week. Hold on, matter of fact, you know, I'm gonna shoot you a cool 10,000.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I'm gonna shoot you a cool 10,000. I'm gonna shoot you a cool 10,000. Man, send my stuff, man. Come on now. I got it coming. I'm just gonna hold on to this till the web is come so I can see it all at once. Okay. Okay. See?
Starting point is 00:46:55 You a good dude. I don't care what they say about you, boy. You good in my book. Let's see if I got anything else of yours here. Hey, where my Funko at? Hey, send me my Funko, man. Oh. Hey, send me my Funko.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, my Funko, I'm gonna send you my Funko. I'm gonna send you my Funko. I'm gonna send you my Funko. I Hey, send me my Funko, man. Oh. Hey, send me my Funko. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, my Funko, send my Webby. Hey, what's that award? What's the triangle? What's the triangle award? What's that called? Uh, Creative Excellence. Oh, yeah, that's me. That's me.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I like the word excellence because when I go use the bathroom, I piss excellence. So, that award would go good in here. Hey, send me my jersey, man Come on, man. Oh, no. There's your oh you with the beach. I went to be tired. That's me. I was number two How you got that Come on, hey, um, what you doing? What we doing over there, man? Hey, Ash. Ash, you know my address, Ash. Hey, send my stuff, man.
Starting point is 00:47:50 We sent the other stuff to the old address. What old address? Well, I don't live there no more. Well, she'll get it to you. No, no, come on. Don't do that. Don't do that, man. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Come on, man. But hold on. I'm that, man. Don't do that. Come on, man. But hold on, I'm confused how you got my high school jerseys. Both of them, why they end up with you? I need that Funko. That's a 101 right there, boy. Okay, I'm gonna send the Funko, I'm gonna send the Funko, the award for creative excellence, and the two Webbies.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I tell you what, how about we do it? I got one for you. Now listen, it's been a long time. I owe you money. I got money right here. You send me my stuff and I'm gonna send the money. Gotcha. Send me my stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:37 So, hey listen, as soon as it get here, I'm gonna send it right to you, I promise you. I promise you. Hey, a good 50 right here, you gotta smell it. It smells good, look good too. Hey, hey, it's fresh too. Hey, these are new hunters too, these are new hunters. They new?
Starting point is 00:48:54 Yeah, these new boy. Oh my God, I forgot. I don't know how to let it slip my mind. I don't know if we have it and what we talking about tonight. We talked about the casino and them having uno, lo and behold, they bring uno to the casinos. And I'm going to tell you where you can find me. I'm going to tell you where you can find me.
Starting point is 00:49:15 You can find me in casino playing uno. I'm a B a B a now. I'll tell you that right now. I'm going to be a billionaire over playing uno in a casino. I don't know what rules they going to have. They going to have different rules than what we played. They can't gentrify Uno. One thing they not going to do, they can't gentrify Uno.
Starting point is 00:49:33 They can't do that. Don't gentrify Uno. Because you can't put draw tools on each other. You can't put no draw phones. They got all kinds of rules. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If you're going to put Uno in there, let's have the original Uno. All that, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:49:46 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, a caller posing as a representative from JPMorgan Chase, who claimed that someone was attempting to impersonate him at a bank branch in Arizona. The caller convinced Turner that to protect his funds, he needed to urgently transfer his money to alternate business accounts.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Believing his finances were at risk, Turner visited two separate Chase banks and transferred 120,000 each. The funds were later discovered to have been funneled into fraudulent accounts. Turner didn't realize he had been duped until after speaking with family members who raised concerns about the legitimacy of the instructions. He then contacted law enforcement and an effort to recover the stolen funds. Authorities have only managed to recover less than $2,500.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Hey, hey, listen, like stuff like that shouldn't work. Stuff like that shouldn't work. Stuff, a phone call, since when did the bank, uh, stuff like that shouldn't work. For one, if Chase is calling you about anything suspecting when it comes to your money I'm going to the bank nothing like that what he did he went to the bank but they convinced him that you need to get some money out of this and put it in here at the at the actual bank so he went to two different banks and transferred 120,000 each and to the accounts that they told him say this will protect you.
Starting point is 00:51:25 No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking to the GM or the manager at that specific bank asking if anything with my accounts is in trouble. Yes. Any type of alerts, any type of security things that I should be worried about. I'm sure they will check and show and let him know there is nothing going on here. Especially any phone call. Ain't no bank calling you, letting you know, what are we talking about? How do we call that in 2025? I think we've all had our number.
Starting point is 00:51:53 They call with, this is the last call. You need to pay your tolls or you need to do, man. Man, please. Don't know where I go got tolls. So I know it ain't got nothing to do with me. Oh, your credit card. I was like, nah, they know me personally. They called me.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I don't need you telling me something wrong with my credit card. Man, man, listen, there's certain things we shouldn't fall for. There's certain things we shouldn't fall for at our big age that just doesn't make sense. It doesn't even make sense, you know? But hopefully young bull. I hope we can get some of it back. But it's hard, Ocho, you know, when money, man, that thing gone.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Yeah. It's hard to get, you never gonna get fully what you lost. You just hope you can get 40, 50, 60% on the dollar. Cause you ain't finna get a hundred. Think about this, when it comes to scams of this nature, it normally works on the elderly. It normally works on the elderly
Starting point is 00:52:48 because they're not aware, they're not sure. Something like this of this magnitude shouldn't work on the young bull. It shouldn't work on the young bull. He should know better. You got to be a little sharp. People hurt you about their money, man. Hey, they don't play.
Starting point is 00:53:03 They don't play. Y'all need to be, like I said. Hey, he don't work too hard for money man. Yeah. Hey, they don't play. They don't they don't play. Y'all need to be like I said, he don't even work too hard for that. Yes. Too hard for that man. Come on now. And the thing was, I believe it right there. Cause uh, uh, uh, who, who, who's the break that he with who's with a chase bank? Yeah. Oh, y'all responsible for that. So if somebody steals it out of that, y'all responsible for it. Y'all will place that back. I ain't ready to do nothing. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And you know what? You know what?
Starting point is 00:53:28 The funny thing I bank with Chase, I bank with Chase and just the thought of even believing any phone call, any text man. Like, come on, man. Banks don't even operate that way. They don't even operate that way. Oh, damn me. Who? Well, you got the wrong number, man. If you don't get operate that way. Oh, damn. Me, who? Boy, you got the wrong number, man. If you don't get off my line, I'll play. He, he, he, he.
Starting point is 00:53:48 In the Ravens' playoff loss to the Bills, Mark Andrews lost the fumble in the fourth quarter with the Ravens trailing 24-19. And then with one minute and 33 seconds left, he dropped a game-tying two-point pass from Lamar. Andrews talked about it Friday, saying, "'I've had to eat a lot of ish, "'and I'll last however long it's been, been but I'm excited to go show who I am what I can
Starting point is 00:54:09 be and what I can what I can be and what I can do to help this team with because I'm not done yet did the long break Oh Joe do you think the long break break helped Andrews move on yeah or did most definitely. Or did he give him an opportunity and time to just sit with his thoughts? Because it's the way the season ended, I think it's going to linger a little bit longer, the way it ended. For him being at fault, for him dropping the ball, obviously they were down. He fumbled early in the season, but they had an opportunity. He fumbled early in the game, but they had an opportunity. He fumbled early in the game, but they had an opportunity to tie the game.
Starting point is 00:54:46 And obviously maybe go to overtime and see what happens from that point. And I think it hurts a little bit more and it lingers a little longer because you will view it as, oh, I lost the game for us. You know, so now obviously he says he has to prove himself again. Well, we know what you can do. We know what you can do. We know you've been a pro, you've been a pro, you've been a pro, you've been a long pro. Absolutely, but it's those opportune times
Starting point is 00:55:10 when it matters most, can you make those plays? And I think the thing is, Ocho, the thing that we love most about sports, because you have to have a short memory, because guess what? In basketball, another game might happen that next night. Baseball, another game happen that next day. In football, a game is gonna happen that week.
Starting point is 00:55:28 So you have to forget about that. I can't be thinking about in this game what happened last game because it's gonna mess me up in this game. Exactly. But because, excuse me, that was the last game. And here we are, Ocho. February, March, April, May, June, July, August.
Starting point is 00:55:49 It's not until he gets back out there and he's playing meaningful football that he could possibly put that. Now that's never going to leave. That's never going to leave. It's never. Yeah. And that's, that's the thing that I love about professional sports because you have to move on and you get an opportunity to move on very very fast. But when it's the last game and then you have three months, four months and hey bro don't worry about it. Hey, it's a no one play.
Starting point is 00:56:23 You know, you know, ain't no one play. You know, you don't know what play causes the game. She is. Okay. Yeah. I mean, listen, nobody will say it obviously, but that play costs a game. I mean, listen, it sounds cute. You know, they always say it.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Oh, that's not why we lost the game. Yes, it is. I mean, it is. Let's be realistic. You know, your teammates will always say all the right stuff. They'll never say it to your face, you know, but it costs us a game. And what's going to happen? He's going to bounce back this season. He's going to have a great regular season as he did last year.
Starting point is 00:56:57 But when it matters most, you have to make those plays. You got to make those plays. That's what it comes down to, Ocho. That's what you paid to make plays. You got to make those plays. That's what it comes down to Ocho. That's what you you paid. Yeah, make plays. Yeah, one of the better play tight ends because they're used to him making those kind of plays in those type of situations. But if anybody can bounce back Mark Andrews coming back.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Trevor Lawrence had high praise for Travis Hunter this week. Travis has been great. Just his work ethic how he comes in. He's been one of the hardest working guys we have. I think his commitment to learning the playbook and trying to learn the two systems. It's a lot on the rookie. It's challenging to learn everything that he's done a nice job. We still have work to do and we're going to get a lot done in training camp to get us
Starting point is 00:57:40 ready to play come September. I'm really excited for him and how he can help our team. Yeah, I'm excited too. I am. I'm excited. I'm excited for Duval. I'm excited for the fans in Jacksonville. I'm excited to see Travis Hunter. I'm excited to see Brian Thomas Jr. Oh, they got some weapons now. Hey, listen, every game, they got eight home games. Every game should be sold out.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Every game will be sold out simply for the exciting. I don't know what happened, Ocho. What? When I was, you know, they became a franchise in 95. Yeah. And I remember going down there, and we played them in 99. And we played them, obviously, that I went to Baltimore and we played them.
Starting point is 00:58:29 We were in the same division. So, Ocho, that place used to have 60,000. I'm talking about, they were loud. Yeah. Now I think they blacked it out up there. I'm like, come on, Jacksonville. But they were loaded. You know, they had Mark Grunell, they had Jimmy,
Starting point is 00:58:42 they had Kenan. Kenny McCarter. They had a- Fred Taylor. Fabulous Kenan. Kenny McCarty. They had a... Fred Taylor. Fabulous Freddie Taylor. Tony Basselli. Yeah. They were loaded, man.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Tony Brackens. They had Dion Figures. They had a nice squad. Oh, yeah. They had a really nice squad. Donovan Darius. Come on. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Oh, yeah. Come on, Jazz. Get on out there and support your team. Oh, they're going to be there. You ain't got to worry about that. They are going to be there. Listen, the offense is lights out. The offense is lights out even before
Starting point is 00:59:10 Travis Hunter got there. So the addition of Travis Hunter plus Brian Thomas Jr. was one of the better receivers last year as a, man, shh. Man, they gonna be nice. They gonna be real nice. Now if we can get Trevor Lawrence to play up to the expectations. The number one overall pick and one of the highest-paid players in NFL. Yeah He has to fulfill his energy or two now. Yeah, he'll be all right. Just a little consistency. We
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