Nightcap - Nightcap - Packers Upset Chiefs, 49ers Blow Out Eagles, LeBron James & Ime Udoka Beef

Episode Date: December 4, 2023

00:00 - Introduction02:30 - Packers upset Chiefs10:30 - 49ers beat Eagles27:00 - Dolphins beat Commanders47:00 - Alabama gets into College Football Playoff57:00 - LeBron and Ime Udoka exchange words1:04:00 - Is Brock Purdy the MVP?1:34:00 - Meeting Michael Jordan1:40:00 - Much more Nightcap #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Packers just beat the chiefs. 27, 19, Jordan love 25 or 36, two 67, three touchdowns. Clean game. Patrick Mahomes,

21 of 33 to 10 touchdown one pick uh there were some really missed calls on that last drive oh that was i counted that was that was that was pi on that d ball to mvs that should have been pi you know the db he was very early he was very early you got to get your eye on the ball you got got to get it. I know, listen, one of the things, especially in the situation, as a defensive back, because I'm a former DB myself, in a situation like that, the best thing for you to do is get your eyes back to the ball. Because, obviously, if that call is made, which it should have been,

the refs missed that one. Come on, that. You cost your team the game. Obviously, they let it go. I'm not sure if the bets was in or something. Something was going on, but that was an obvious P.I. But listen, the Packers played a good game. The Blacks, the Packers played a good game.

They did. They did. But here's the thing, though, Ochoa. I counted three bad calls on that last drive. What were the other two? That was not an unnecessary roughness on Pat Mahomes. He was inbounds. Okay, okay, okay, okay. You know, the first rule of thumb,

you can't let up when you're going out of bounds because he's coming and he's going to knock your block off. Right. And I thought he had knocked Pat out of the game because you got up, he's a little woozy. Woozy, yeah, a little bit. Number one rule of thumb, you do not let up on the sideline. Right.

You go ahead and get your butt up out of bounds. You don't take unnecessary hits because they are coming. I thought they could have called that shove in the back by Owens when he shoved Travis Kelsey on the Hail Mary.

Because remember, the NFL went back and said you can call P.I. on Hail Mary. Now, we don't see and said, you can call P.I. on Hail Mary. Right. Now, we don't see it often, but it has been called because he shoved it before the ball got in the air. And he shoved it. And it kind of knocked Trav off his spot. I think that would have been bad, though. Don't you think to have a game in that way to throw a pass interference? All right.

The first play, the first deep ball, the MVS, I understand that one. But to throw a flag and then they get the ball on the one-yard line on a Hail Mary, that would have been a horrible way to lose the game. I think that would have been

a horrible way. But I think the thing is, Ocho, for me, you got to call a foul a foul, whatever it's called. Because, you know, if guys, like, we've seen guys

in victory formation and the guys line up off sides and they throw a penalty. They're like, man, we don't need that five yards.'ve seen guys in victory formation, and the guys line up off sides, and they throw a penalty. They're like, man, we don't need that five yards, bro. We in victory formation. No, we got to call a foul a foul. But, Ocho, there's a bigger problem. And I told you this.

Yes, sir. Even the greatness of Patrick Mahomes, he can't overcome these mediocre receivers. And I kept telling you, I told you this. I said, at some point in time, Ocho, you can't keep steaming. You've got to say, look here, guys, I need you to go beat man coverage. Right. How many smoke screens? How many try when you try to change the DB's eye level before you just have a guy to go beat me on a comeback?

Right. Or beat me on a speed out or beat me on an end cut? They can't do that consistently, Ocho. Right. I mean, listen, I've said it before. Even the greatest of Patrick Mahomes can't overcome it. You know, honestly, when you think about it,

I think they regret, I wouldn't say regret letting Tyreek go, but now you understand his importance and what he meant to that team. Because now, when Travis Kelsey's

not having a great game, who else do you have as an outlet that you can count on to continuously win one-on-one battles? I mean, listen, the entire game, they was really just basically

just playing man-to-man on everybody because they didn't feel they had anybody adequate enough to get open in one-on-one situations. And that's exactly what you got. Look, I think the thing is, look, they proven, Pat Mahomes won the MVP, they won the Super Bowl without Tyreek.

But I think the mistake that you make is sometimes you're like, okay, we're straight. There are guys out there. You could have got a DeAndre Hopkins, a guy that can beat man coverage consistently. And so now you pair him with Travis Kelsey. And now you let Kadarius Tony. Now you let Sky Moore.

Now you let Rasheed Rice. You let them continue to grow knowing you got two guys on a given play that can go consistently. Right, right, right. Even Patrick Mahomes' greatness can't overcome average to mediocre play at that receiver position. Yeah, guys catch a ball here or there. But nah, nah, nah, because you're asking too much.

And I know Pat Mahomes is great. He's historically great. But Ocho, you're asking too much. And I know Pat Mahomes is great. He's historically great. But Ocho, you're asking him an awful lot to make chicken salad out of that chicken stuff he got going on. I think they're going to address the issue. They're going to have to address the issue. They're going to have to address it through the draft. But I think they should more so looking to getting a veteran, bringing a veteran in. There are a lot of receivers that are going to be on the market this offseason.

And they need to go find and get one of them. They got to. They got to address that issue because when they lock in on Travis Kelsey, there is nobody else that Patrick Mahomes can count on and say, you know what, come hell or high water, I can count on this individual to make a play for me in tough times. Who can I put the ball up to other than Trav that can go make a play for me? Nobody.

Yeah. Everybody has at least one person that I feel confident in that if I put the ball up, they can go make a play. Right. And Kansas City doesn't have that guy. Right. Because if Andy doesn't scheme up the perfect play, they can't get open. Right, right, right, right, right.

And even Patrick Mahomes. And Patrick Mahomes, I can't get open. Right, right, right, right, right. And even Patrick Mahomes. And Patrick Mahomes, I don't think he... Look, they're not going to be able to get stretch the field because they don't have a Tyreek. They don't have a guy that can push the sticks. Well, I mean, MVS would be their burner, right? I mean, he's not Tyreek fast, but he is their speed guy. But they called this like,

well, he wasn't going to catch the ball anyway. That's why they didn't throw the flag. They're like, hell, he wasn't going to catch it anyway. Don't do that. Don't do that. Ocho going to catch the ball anyway. That's why they didn't throw the flag. They're like, hell, he wasn't going to catch it anyway. Don't do that. Ocho, you saw the ball he caught tonight. Patrick Mahomes threw him a ball to man lay in flat of his back. He'd catch it. He'd throw him one the other night.

He'd hit him and he'd drop it. He is the guy. Skymore, I've been waiting for Skymore to take that next step because he showed some things last year as a rookie. I've been waiting on Kadarius Sky Moore to take that next step because he showed some things last year as a rookie. I've been waiting on Kadarius Toney to take that next step. He showed some flashes.

But man, Ocho is getting hard. Because think about this, Ocho. They scored 19 points. Now we've seen them. The Broncos, they scored under 20. We've seen this before. I think it was Philly. They barely under 20. We've seen this before. I think it was

Philly. They barely got 20. So the points and it used to be it was automatic. The last three, four years, Patrick Mahomes needed a touchdown and a two-point conversion to tie this game. He's going to get that. Most definitely.

Now, you're like, man, they ain't going to do this. That's how far it's... The man wouldn't have gotten field goal range in 13 seconds. Yeah. Now, he could have had five minutes, and I don't believe they would have scored. Right.

Because of his greatness, I still, even though he had nobody to throw the ball to, I still, because with it being Patrick Mahomes, I still give him a 50-50 chance. That's how great he is. But once they address that issue at the receiver position and allow that young core to continue to mold and get better and get comfortable in situations where Patrick Mahomes can count on them, they will be all right.

But they got to address it in the offseason and get in the receiver that can get the job done. Beat man coverage consistently. Yeah. That makes the offensive coordinator job easy. You know what? I don't got to scheme you. I need you. I want to line you up out here X. I want to line you up at the Z and I need you to win for me. Just win for me. Jordan Love in his last three games has been playing

outstanding. 857 passing yards, 8 touchdowns, 0 interceptions 3-0 record. Let's go to the game of the day. been playing outstanding 857 passing yards eight touchdowns zero interception three and oh record uh let's go to the game of the day yeah what we thought was going to be the game of the day the 49ers black gap the 49ers last the eagles brock purdy 4 to 42 19 was the final score brock purdy 19 of 27 314 two touchdowns Debo Samuels backed up all that talk. Remember, Debo was talking that thing. Debo said last year, y'all lucky

that our quarterback got hurt because we'd have sent y'all home. But you know what? Everybody said, ah, Debo, you just got sour grades, blah, blah, blah. Debo said, no, I'm telling you. We watched them on tape and their defense, especially that back end, is cheeks. And we know what cheeks are booty

cheeks so they can be had Devo had three touchdowns Jalen Hurts 25 of 45 298 going for one touchdown rushing for another but the last 100 yards that was junk because going into the fourth quarter he had 196 yards

so the 49ers backed off let him go up let him go down the field so i'm gonna disregard that last it looks good on the stats but he did not play particularly where the eagles offense looked inconsistent the 49ers uh always felt that they could beat the eagles uh it just was pretty was hurt uh last year in the championship game right and uh we saw what happened today again the eagles 204 in the red zone the guess what the 49ers were in the championship game. Right. And we saw what happened today. Again, the Eagles, 2-4 in the red zone. Guess what the 49ers were in the red zone? 4-4.

4-4, yeah. You see? Difference in the ball game. Think about it, Ocho. They had a 6-0 lead, which really should have been 14-0. The 49ers, as bad as they were played in the first quarter, they scored touchdown in the second quarter, and guess what? They got the lead.

Yeah. And once they got that. It was a wrap from there. Listen, the Eagles offense didn't look to par. It didn't look like what we're used to seeing. They kept Jalen Hurst on the run. They had him uncomfortable the entire time. He wasn't allowed to set and throw.

And there were multiple plays where I felt like, wait a minute. Do the 49ers defense have the goddamn Eagles game plan? and there were multiple plays where I felt like, wait a minute, do the 49ers defense have the goddamn Eagles game plan? Because every time he dropped back, he was scrambling and he had so much time to throw. And it was a cover sack every time, over and over, the first down, second down, third down. Even when they tried to run to try to keep everything balanced and try to keep them guessing, that wasn't working either.

No, but I thought the thing with the, what 49ers had a breakdown and I'm sure Steve Wilson is going to talk to him. You got to keep him contained because if you look at a lot of his plays, he made outside of the pocket, throwing on the run. And so a mobile quarterback, you want to make him go away from his dominant hand.

He's a right-handed quarterback. Make him roll to the left. You don't let him go to his dominant hand, but you try to keep him contained. If he beats me from throwing from the pocket, I can live with those results, Ocho. I can't let a mobile quarterback get outside by time because

now he stresses the defense entirely too much. But the 49ers, I've seen, look, we're 12 weeks into the regular season, Ocho, 13 weeks. Ocho, I've seen, look, we're 12 weeks into the regular season. Ocho, 13 weeks. Ocho, I've seen enough. No team can step on the gas like the 49ers

and lead. They're like Tyreek. There are a lot of fast receivers, but ain't none can step on the gas like Tyreek. Tyreek can, yeah. We've seen the Cowboys. We've seen the Cowboys play their best. We've seen the Ravens play their best.

We've seen Buffalo play their best. We've seen the Cowboys play their best. We've seen the Ravens play their best. We've seen Buffalo play their best. We've seen the 49ers play their best. When the 49ers step on the gas, can't nobody see them. Not right now, especially not with the way they look today. And another thing that I think that is really, really interesting about the 49ers and that defense is how well

the matchups were individually. I'm talking about the DBs against A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith. I can't remember the DB on the other side for the 49ers, but they played a good game. Outside and underneath in the running catch situations, everything

10 yards and more, man. They're challenging everything down the field. Right there on his hip. Right there on his hip. Ward. Yeah, as opposed to what we're used to seeing, you know, with A.J. Brown and Devontae Simmons being open.

It was a different ballgame tonight. They did a great job. And when you look at what they're able to do, you look at a Deebo. Put the ball in his hands, he can go. Amen. Deebo is a running back once he gets the ball in his hands. He go amen but Debo is a running back yeah once he gets the ball in his hand he's not the typical wide receiver right and you look at you look at IU tremendous run

after the catch you look at Jennings tremendous run after the catch you look at Kittle great run after the catch you look at Christian McCaffrey tremendous run after the catch all the guys but what did I tell you Ocho you see those jailbreak screen to hit the deep bowl? Yeah. You see IU? You see those receivers marking downfield? Yeah. That's what you got to see. That's the difference between a 10-yard play

and a guy hitting his head on the goal post. I got a question. How come the smoke screens and the receiver screens work for the 49ers, but the smoke screens and receiver screens

don't work for the Chiefs? Because those are big physical receivers. Deebo's a physical receiver. IU, remember I told you, normally in the West Coast, your receivers got to block. You got to block because that's how you get long runs. That's the difference between a 20-yard run

and a 50-yard touchdown run because receivers are knocking DBs off the guys down the field. If you go back and look at that touchdown, I know you remember it. When Garrison Hurst broke that 96-yard touchdown run in overtime. Down the sideline. And what would T.O. do? T.O.

Yeah. You see T.O. booking it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Yeah, I remember that.

T.O. walks him all the way to the end zone. Yeah, I remember that. That's what you got to have. You watch. When those guys catch most screens, you look at Kittle. When they run that flip talk, you see Kittle. Kittle hands on the sweater. He looking.

He's like, come on, Deebo. Come on. Come on, Deebo. That offensive line did a tremendous job. That silverback out there, Trent Williams, people ain't trying to see him. Everybody want to go to the other side. They want to go to the other side and try to get a cheap sack. Big Trent said, oh, come on back over here.

I need y'all to see me. I want you to come see me. Listen, I've seen the Cowboys play their best. I've seen Buffalo play their best against Miami. Right. I've seen. But can't anybody step on the gas? You see what happened, Ocho?

They went, they got the ball six straight possessions and went and got tubs against what everybody said that was the best team in the NFL, considering they had only lost one game. And they find ways to win. And that's a nice... But see, for me, I look at the front seven, I see the front seven pretty good.

But that back end, that back end can be had. You know, the back end can be had, but the front seven and the front five is so goddamn good and can apply so much pressure as opposed to when you're playing somebody outside of the 49ers

who are able to match up very well as far as their all line is concerned. So then you get exposed a little bit, you get exposed a little bit and you play an offense like the 49ers that can do goddamn almost everything. And this is, this is the results that you see, but if they were playing any other team, if the Eagles were playing any other team in the NFL today,

same atmosphere, same crowd, same weather, I guarantee the results would be different. You might be right. I think the thing is, Ojo, they've got to get back. They can't run the football. They've become one-dimensional. They've become a past-our-oriented team. Swift is not running the football.

Jalen Hurts' legs is not as dangerous as they once was. They don't call as many runs because of that knee. And so their inability to run the football like they once could. Teams are gearing up and saying, look, we got to stop the pass. And it's normally the short pass. A lot of under routes. You see AJ.

They want to get the ball in his hands and let him run. But here's the thing. You're going to play a team next week on Sunday night. The Cowboys. What do they have? An offensive line. Line, yeah.

They got an offensive line. Yeah. So it's going to be now. And that's a division opponent. Now, we throw everything at the winner when it's a division opponent. We know the Eagles

don't like the Cowboys. We know Cowboys don't like the Eagles. And we know what happened last time them two teams played, Ocho, is that the Eagles got a victory. CeeDee Lamb ended't like the Eagles. And we knew what happened last time them two teams played, Ocho, is that the Eagles got a victory. CeeDee Lamb ended up catching the ball. They tackled him at the two-yard

line. The game ended. But the Eagles are going to have to find a way to not kick field goals once they get into the red zone. And they're going to have to do a better job holding up on the back end. Because CeeDee Lamb is licking it. Hey, CeeDee's another guy that can catch the ball.

He can run after the catch. He can go now. Yeah, man. I like Jake Ferguson. I'm not saying he's killed him, but he's developing swag. He's starting to feel like I belong. That's starting to trust him.

So the Eagles got to be careful because you've had, think about it. Now, all of a sudden, you lose this game next week. Guess who has the number one seed? The 49ers. The 49ers, yeah. Because the 49ers beat you head to head. The 49ers ain't just beat the Cowboys and Eagles.

They shall watch them. 42-19, 42-10. Yeah, big time. Big, big wins. It ain't no, man, you know, if we done did this, because you know sometimes, Ocho, you get a close ball game. Man, all we had to do, if this dropped past, if we didn't form with this, when somebody beat you 42-10 and beat you 42-19, what you saying?

Ain't nothing you can say. And then you can say. But listen, and the funny thing about it is not that they beat them very convincingly, and it's damn near what the playoff atmosphere is going to be like. Let's say, depending, in regards to the results, I see all of them making the playoffs. I see the Eagles making the playoffs, obviously. The 49ers and the Cowboys making it.

Once you get to the playoffs, what can change? What can you actually change where the Eagles can compete and the Cowboys can compete and really nullify anything that the 49ers are doing. How do you approach the game? Turnovers.

Turnovers are equalizers. Okay. Turnovers are equalizers. Because I still believe because the thing is that even though the Cowboys, the Cowboys hadn't run the ball like they ran it last year with Zeke and Pollard. Right. They're throwing the ball better because CD is having a monster season. Brandon Cooks is starting to come on. He's starting to catch some passes now.

But as far as just running it, the thing that was so scary about the 49ers, they can run it and throw it. Because C-Mac, man, C-Mac is shaking people up in the hole. I'm talking about in a phone booth. And guys can't touch it. And so now, guess what happened when I play action off of that?

Because now you got to drop that safety down. Now I got Zeke Debo on the over route. Or I got IU working one-on-one. I got Jennings working on your one-on-one. Or you got C-Mac coming out the backfield. Out the backfield. When you can run it and throw it, you put so much pressure, added pressure on your defense.

And these guys are running after the catch. You're not just bringing them down with an arm tackle. They're not satisfied with a 10 or 15-yard game. They're trying to get home. Every time. They're trying to get home. Every time. And yeah, this is, look,

there's something, I know you saw this, Drake Greenlaw and the Eagles head of security, Dom DeSandro. I saw that. They were both ejected. Ocho, you know, look here, if you ain't in the game, hey, because guys going to, any coach, if I run to your sideline and the coach, look, if you're not trying to help me, don't touch me.

Right, right, right. Because I'm already mad. Right, right, right right you know how to do so you're already frustrated and then you're gonna touch me you talking ish yeah yeah okay yeah i mean it's you know it obviously you know both of them are wrong both of them wrong you got to be able to you got to be able to keep it cool as a player and also big dom as the head of security for the eagles you already. You already know. You already know. So, look, cooler heads will prevail.

I mean, I'm sure they won't make that mistake. They did once they got to the locker room because they figured it through the ass out the game. I think the refs, you got to understand the circumstance at the time. I understand the ref, you got a job to do. But as a player, it's the heat of the moment. You really don't mean to do anything wrong.

Same for Dom. Same for Green. Green. How do you say it last name? Green Law. Yeah, same for Green Law. But listen, you're losing like that, man, at that time. You know how to deal with a joke.

Listen, I know. I know. Very well. And we're going to talk about this a little later with Ime Adoka and LeBron. Because you know you're on the sideline. Man, get your, you know, what up out of here. What you say? Yeah.

Okay. You're not in no pants now. I can tear your ass up. But listen, LeBron, I mean, we're going to get to it later. But you know, you played basketball before. I played basketball before. I've been at you played basketball before. I played basketball before. I've been at the YMCA. I played at Venice Beach.

I played, you know, all this growing up as a kid. That's a part of the game. Yeah. I've been to Rucker. I've been to Rucker Park. I done seen them boys. That's a part of the game. But here's the thing, though.

When he talking about y'all playing like some bitches, I'm like, who? Now, you ain't putting a title on that with somebody. Who are you talking about? You talking about them or you talking about y'all playing like some bitches, I'm like, who? Now, you need to put a title on that with somebody. Who are you talking about? You talking about them or you talking about me? But you can't take that personal, you know? In that situation, understanding who you are, you are the king. You are that boy. So you know he's meaning as a whole, the complaining, the crying about files or whatever it may be, whatever the situation may be.

You know he doesn't literally mean it. Yeah, hey, hey, hey, you need to put a title on it. Just tag somebody with it. Put a name with it? Yeah, yeah. Who are you talking to? You talking about Austin Reed? You talking about Vando?

You talking about D-Law? I mean, who are you talking to? Right, right, right. Who are you talking about? Because I'm a part of the Lakers. So if you're talking about the Lakers and you're talking about B-I-T-C-Hs, are you including me in it?

Right. Because I need to know. I need to get a little closer because I don't know if I heard you correctly. Because I could have swore you said female dogs if you referred to the Lakers. So let me get a little closer to make sure I heard you right now. Now, what did you say? Yeah. I mean, I understand.

Listen, honestly, that trash talk, that's good for the game. Listen, remember Spike Lee and Reggie Miller? Yeah. Or Spike Lee and Michael Jordan just having that it was Spike Lee and Scottie Pippen when he dunked no Patrick Ewing you gotta be careful

calling a man a female dog remember how I told you everybody don't play like you play Thursday. He don't mean it. Everybody don't play like you play. You're right. You're right. But you got to understand, he doesn't mean it literally.

He doesn't really mean you are a bitch. It's just the fact that y'all might be playing like some doesn't mean you actually are a bitch. Hey, I was at a game one time and I called

a dude a mofo. He's like, Sharp, I ain't going to be too many more mofos. I said, do that one. You don't got to be no more but you that one. Man, you know know i had to come back with something quick okay i don't call you no more but you that one yeah take that one with you but uh yeah you're right i mean the nfl

probably gonna i mean anytime you get suspended i mean you get thrown out of the game you're getting fine that's a fine oh yeah you're getting fine and i'm sure the nfl is gonna really talk to the head of security. Right. Because you definitely. You can't touch nobody. Because as the NFL, you got to stay above the fray. Right, right.

Stay above the fray. So, Ocho, we got 33,000 people watching in the live. What, 33? 33,000. Our previous record was 24-5. Right. And we got 33 currently. Listen, all 33,000 of you,

I love you. I love y'all so much. I want all of you to text me. I want to see you, my number, 786. Make sure you call me. Get you a pin. 786-235-6212.

And I'm putting it out there because I love y'all and I need some friends. I need some friends and I would love to hang out with y'all one day if I travel to your city. You know, we can get together, have dinner. And, no, you're going to pay in our tip. I appreciate y'all supporting us and loving us.

Happy holidays and all that good stuff. See, when they start talking about all the B-I-T-C-H and all that stuff. Yeah. Homie don't play that. I was going to say, what's really going on? What's on your mind? that I'm going to say what's really going on what's on your mind because I'm going to ask you

if there's something on your mind you want on your ass because I can put it there for you oh I like that hold on let me write that down

right there wait say it again if there's something on your mind you want on your ass yeah I got to use that with my kids that's what my grandpa

used to tell us I'm going to use that on my kids because That's what my grandpa used to tell us. Yeah. He used to tell us that. I'm trying to use that on my kids. Because, you know, Christmas coming up, and they might not get what they want. And I'm going to use that line right there. Yeah. Is there something on your mind you want on your ass? Because I can put it there for you now.

Something on your mind. That's what you're looking for. You can get exactly what you're looking for. Something on your mind you want on your ass. Yeah. All right. Yeah. The Dolphins beat the Commander.

Man. I think this was this was a a score agami this was a score agami agami is a score that's never ever happened in the nfl before the dolphins beat the commanders 45 15 at one point in the third through two two quarters midway through the second quarter tyreekreek had three catches, 132 yards, and two touchdowns. He now has 1,481 yards with five games to go. He needs to average 104 yards a game in order to get that 2,000. The rollercoaster celebration. I like the rollercoaster celebration.

Hey, that thing was loud, wasn't it? Hey, they were riding. Hey, that was a good one. That was a really good one, man. It was. Listen, Tyreek, I know you're going to see this. Man, please continue to make the game fun and entertaining. Continue to get people tuned in. Continue to get fans engaged.

You don't understand how much for me, watching from the outside in as a fan of the game and a fan of entertainment. Dude, I appreciate you. I love you. There are not many, honestly, there's really nobody else doing it like that right now if you think about it. No, no, no, no. Every week, if you watch a Dolphin game,

you're tuning in. Even if you don't like fucking football, even if you don't like football, I'm tuning in because I want to know what type you is going to do. He set the goal for 2,000 yards. Who knows what people might have thought. People might, oh, it's impossible. It's never been done before. What makes him think he's going to be able to do it?

He had two of playing quarterback. What is the man doing? This is a testament to how great the young fella is, man. How great he is. I just need him. Excuse me, y'all. I need him to get,

I need him to have one of those, I need him to have, we're doing the next three games, I need him to have a 200-yard game. Matter of fact. Because I won't, because Ocho, you know what's going to happen.

Let's just say, for the sake of argument, he needs 100 yards. Right. Draylon Waddle will have 300 yards receiving. They're going to put three people on Tyree. They're not going to let him

break the record again. They didn't do it today. They didn't do it today. I didn't understand why they didn't do it today or why they didn't at least try. They didn't even try. They just said, you know what? We're going to leave him there.

Whatever you get today, he going to get it. And he continued to do work early in the game. Anyway, didn't they take him out the fourth quarter? Didn't they take him out the fourth quarter? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to run the risk of getting him hurt in a situation like that. Yeah, in a situation like that.

But I'm thinking, Ocho, I don't know what you were thinking, but I was thinking like three catches, 132. Now I'm just trying to feed it. I'm beating him smokes. He's going to have 13. He might not have like six yards to catch, but he's going to get 200 in that one because he's already at 132 with

three catches. So now I got defeated. I got defeated. That's crazy. You know the schedule? You know the next few games? Give me the... I know they got Buffalo. They got the Cowboys. Okay, Cowboys. He's going to

eat. Yeah. They're not changing. They Okay. Cowboys, he gonna eat. Yeah. They not changing. They not scheming for no one person. No, you can't. You can't play him man up. I don't know what Washington was thinking. They don't have the kind of DB. They not gonna change, though. They not gonna change. You know what? We gonna stop.

We gonna change and stop doing what we normally do. Just gonna be playing the Miami Dolphins and Tyreek Hill. Some defensive coordinators are stubborn. Yeah, see, they got the Titans, the Jets, the Cowboys, the Ravens, and the Bills, right? Yeah. They got Titans, Jets, Cowboys, Ravens, Bills. Titans, Jets, Cowboys.

He getting 1,000. He getting 1,000. 2,000. I mean, 2,000. He getting 2,000. He getting 1,000. 2,000. I mean, 2,000. He getting 2,000. He definitely getting it. That Titans game? That Titans game?

Yeah. Man, stop playing. And he going to get some opportunity against the Jets because the offense is so inept. He's going to get a lot of opportunities. He going to be in the field a lot. Yes. He going to be in the field a lot.

Yes. Yes. So, congratulations to the Dolphins, 45-14 winners over the Commanders. Woo! Commanders, y'all got to do better. Y'all might need to change y'all name again. Hey, you think they're going to fire Mr. Rivera? Oh, yeah, he gone. Yeah?

But it's only his third year, though. He gone. See, that's new ownership. Josh Harris did not hire Ron Rivera. Oh, that's right. That's right. Right. Yeah.

So I'm going to get my people in there. Right. And move on. Well, who would his people be anyway? Anybody. Anybody other than Ron Rivera. Well, you got to say it like that. I don't know.

No, I'm just telling you because, look, that man spent $6 billion. Woo! Do you know how much? $6 billion. Yeah. $6 billion.

I can't even fathom. If I'm not mistaken, he brought... Dan Snyder purchased Washington. They weren't the commanders at the time. We know the name that they were for about $800 million from the estate of

Jack Kent Cooke. Wait, only $800 million? $800 million in 1999. Look at me talking about only. My bad. But I'm saying, so $6 billion. Right. That's crazy. Yeah. Imagine if you had the money to get you

an NFL team, man. No, imagine if we, we, I mean, we, cause we, we, we. Yeah. Imagine that. We got to pull. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's only a handful of people that I'm talking about a real percentage.

I mean, cause you're probably going to have to have, I mean, there are guys like a Jay-Z, a Robert Smith, who I think is the world think is the wealthiest black billionaire, Oprah, Michael, you know, guys, people like that. Magic was able to get in on it. But, I mean, for me, yeah, it would be amazing. I want to see the day that Magic's in there. Magic gives us hope. Yeah, yeah. Magic gives us hope for NFL. Michael. Magic gives us hope for NFL. Michael

gave us hope for an NBA team. Magic gave us hope for MLB. So now we see people of my color that looks like me, that played a professional sport, that has an opportunity, that's a minority owner. Right. LeBron is looking at it. LeBron wants

that team in Vegas. Right. He gonna get it. He gonna get it. He gonna get it. LeBron wants that team in Vegas. Right. Oh, he going to get it. He going to get it. He going to get it. And he wants to be a majority. He wants to be. But I mean, considering what NBA franchise is going for, what happened was when Donald Sterling had to sell the Clippers,

because prior to that, no team had ever gone for over $600 million. Right. If I'm not mistaken, Vivek, didn't he buy the, I think he bought the Sacramento Kings for $550. Then he comes out and he plays, and a bomber, Steve Bomber, pays $2.2 billion. Which

is four times what the highest franchise had ever been sold for. So, now you see where the NBA prices are going. You see what Michael brought. I think Michael brought the Bobcats, the Hornets, excuse me, the Hornets for maybe $300 million, $400 million. And I think he just sold for $3.5 billion.

You see Mark Cuban purchased the Mavericks for $200 million. Just sold a large share of them for $3.5 billion. Wait, he purchased the goddamn Mavericks for $200 million. Just sold a large share of them for $3.5 billion. Wait, he purchased the goddamn Mavericks for $200 million? $200 million. Look at me, I'm talking about he purchased, like I got $200 million just sitting around, like I could go purchase some goddamn body. Ain't a whole lot of people got that kind of money.

I mean, if you got that kind of money, I mean, now there are guys that got money, I mean, now, there are guys that got billions and can have $2 billion in escrow in a matter of hours, you know, a day. But that's a great thing and I'm happy for Magic. Minority owner in the Dodgers,

minority owner in the Commanders. Any owner of the Sparks, too? Minority owner of the Sparks? He might be. I think he sold it. He was in the Lakers. But I think he sold that. But he sold a lot of his holdings and

the Starbucks and stuff to be able to purchase shares into the Dodgers and the Washington football team. The Broncos get lose today, 22-17. They come up short. Jimmy Ward intercepted Russ passing the end zone with nine seconds to play. Derek Stingley Jr. picked up two more passes.

Russ finished 15-26, 186, a touchdown, and three interceptions. And what had really helped the Broncos spring back, Russ was playing clean games. The Broncos are not good enough as a team to overcome those types of mistakes. Maybe you could overcome one, but you can't overcome three.

And that's what happened today. Russ tried to force some throws, and Stingley made great plays on a couple of them, and they lose the ball game. C.J. Stroud was 16 of 27, 274, and a touchdown. The Broncos, what do you take away from Broncos? And we'll get to the Texans.

I mean, you think about it. Russ has been cooking the past five games. And what I think Sean Payton has done is Russ didn't even have any games in those five that they did win where he threw over 200-some yards. You know, everything was dink and dunk you know what make sure you keep us in the game and i'm allowing the defense to take over and win it for us you just keep us in position and we gonna be all right right this game let it you know we're gonna let him off the leash a little bit and what happens when they let him off the leash a little bit you know you get you

get the turnovers. Obviously, there were some good players and guys that also get paid millions of dollars on the other side of the ball. You know? It just didn't go the way it would. But it's not a bad thing because you did win five in a row. You got next week. You come right back.

You fix what you need to fix. And hey. You could have been sitting really pretty. You could have been seven. You could have been sitting really pretty. You could have been seven. You could have been, what, seven and five? Yeah. You could have been seven and five. Yeah.

And now you're one game behind the Chiefs. Yeah. Who would have thought that somebody would be right that close to the Chiefs? Because the Chiefs normally run away with the division. With everything, yeah. Not right now. Right. And so you'd have been right there.

CJ Stroud, 16-27, 274 and a touchdown. What'd you like about CJ's game? Man, CJ is the real deal, man. Continue. He continuous, continuous, week in and week out, acting like he's been here before. I've never seen a rookie

play this poise, be that relaxed, being able to make the reads and adjustments and being able to process the game at such a fast rate like he's doing. Nico Collins, man. I think he's out. No, that's Tank Dale.

Tank Dale, I think he's out for the year. Tank Dale, man, he broke his fibula, man. That's unfortunate. Very unfortunate. But listen, the way Nico Collins is playing, Nico will be able to pick up that slack for CJ Sorrell so they continue to wreak havoc week in and week out. You know what? Look, I think Mike McDaniel is going to get a lot of votes

for Coach of the Year. But right now, the Houston coach. Yeah. That's the Ryans. Yeah, D'Amico. Yeah. D'Amico got gotta get it, man. Yeah. Yeah. This team,

how many games did they win last year? Two? They won two games last year? They won two or three. I think they won two games last year. How many games did they win last year, Ash? And the way they're playing, Ojo, they're in every game.

And a lot of times they go in these games, you're like, I think the Texans gonna win. This playing, Ojo, they're in every game. And a lot of times, they go in these games, you're like, I think the Texans are going to win. He doesn't coach like a first-year coach. And C.J. Stroud definitely doesn't play like a rookie quarterback. They were 3-13-1

last year. And they've already doubled that. They've won six games, right? I think seven. Five and six or six and six. I know they're right there on the Jags' heel. They're nipping on the Jags' heel.

They're seven and five. Seven and five. Yeah, he could definitely be coach of the year. Most definitely. But Mike McDaniels is also someone who is also deserving of it. But what D'Amico has been able to do with the Texans in such a short amount of time.

Yeah. And what I like to say, sometimes, you know, they give us, they give us, I don't want to say it the wrong way. They give us the hard jobs. Yes.

You get where I'm going. Of course. You get where I'm going. Yes. You ain't getting Big Ben. You ain't getting Rodgers. You're not getting Mahomes. Okay. You ain't getting Big Ben. You ain't getting Rodgers. You're not getting Mahomes. You're not getting those guys.

Okay, you see where I'm going with this. They send her members to the Jets. They send you to teams that don't have quality quarterbacks. And when it doesn't go well, they say, oh, well, you didn't turn it around. You got it down. Yeah, I know exactly where you're going. Okay, okay, okay. Tony, Big Buck Buchanan.

How do you feel about the Falcons' jet game? And if Falcons win the NFC South, do you give us a chance to win a playoff game? I don't know about winning a playoff game, but I think you definitely have a chance to win that division. Yeah. Because that division is not very strong. The Falcons still atop that division at 6-6, followed by the Bucks at 5-7, New Orleans at 5-7, and Carolina obviously pulling up the rear at one and 11. But yes, first of all, that game shouldn't have been closed

because at the end of the game, that was a fumble. That was an empty hand, and they blew the whistle. The league has already told them, let the play go because we're going to review all scoring plays. We review all turnover. Right. So there was no reason. There was no reason for you to blow the whistle.

Right. Just like in the Kansas city green Bay game. What did they do? Oh, Joe, they let him score the touchdown. We go to the booth, bring it back,

bring it back, but you blow the whistle. Well, but the further review, the, the, the quarterback had an empty hand coming forward. It was a fumble recovered by the Falcons.

But you robbed him of a touchdown. Right. Yeah. And the NFL is already saying, let the play go. We can always come back. We got all turnover plays are reviewed. So, yeah, but the Falcons. Man, I'm jazzed.

I told you, Ocho. No, I know. You didn, them Jets I told you, Ocho No, I know You didn't tell me I told you Listen, there was nothing There was nobody There was no magical answer There's nothing we can do Aaron Rodgers

Talk about you coming back Coming back to do what? He doesn't Coming back to do what? He just talking He talking I love I love

I love my Jets I'm talking about my Jets Listen, I'm a part of every goddamn team I don't care what it is You sure are Listen, I love my Jets. I'm talking about my Jets. Listen, I'm a part of every goddamn team. I don't care what it is. You sure are. Listen, I love my Jets. I love my Jets. I fucking love Zach Wilson.

I'm going to stand on business about Zach. There is nothing you can put back there at the quarterback position. Jesus himself could come down and play quarterback for the Jets. The results for the game today would still be the same. There is work that needs to be done. There is work that needs to be done. There's work that needs to be done internally, and it starts from the top

and it works its way down. Rob Asala, you can't blame the coach. You definitely can't blame the coach at all. But listen, there's a lot of work that needs to be done

over there in New York, and they got to get to the bottom of it. And I don't like the fact that they're making Zach Wilson the scapegoat. They shouldn't. There's so many other areas that need to be fixed and addressed, and then you go from there. Well, this is an organizational problem

because here's the problem that they have. They've missed on two franchise quarterbacks in the span of about five years. Wait, who did they pass up? They drafted Sam Donald, number three of all, and he didn't work out. Yeah, but he was great at USC, though. So what you're calling was great at

BYU. And we just talked about this on Thursday. Just because you're great in college doesn't mean you're going to be great in the NFL. Wait a minute. Stay with me now. Listen, I told you the best thing for a quarterback, especially when you're young, is coming to a situation that is perfect for you.

We have a supporting cast. I don't care who you are. There's 32 teams in the NFL. If a quarterback is only as good as his supporting cast, unless you are superior, and the only superior quarterback in the NFL right now

that is leaps and bounds ahead of everybody else, that is Patrick Mahomes. And right now, because he doesn't have a great supporting cast around him, he doesn't even look like Superman right now. So imagine

another scene. Look what's happening to Bryce Young. Another two years, they're going to be saying Bryce Young is a problem when that's not his fault. But the problem is that normally when you go to a team that's so high, you're devoid of talent.

That's why you're picking number one overall. That's why you're picking two. That's why you're picking three. That's unfair, especially for the quarterbacks that get drafted early. Yes, yes, yes. And so what you try to do is that you have a situation where you get the quarterback and now you've got a few quality vet, because they're young at every position. The quarterback's young.

You look at the wide receivers, they're young. And so there's no veteran wide receivers. So now you're coming in and you're like, man, we got to start from scratch. But if you don't, see, but that's really the only position that sets you back three years. You can miss at a linebacker.

You can miss at a DB. You can miss at any position. And it really won't set you back like it does if you're doomed. But you understand how difficult it is to find a quality quarterback. You know how difficult it is for a goddamn C.J. Stroud to come along and act like he's already been playing for a goddamn 10 years. You just plug in and he just go. Ocho. Difficult.

That's why you don't hear me throw the word around elite. Yeah, right. That's why. Because the very reason what you said, do you understand? Right, right, right. Because you can have a game. You can have a stretch. But to do that over and over

and over. Consistently, that's difficult. Year in and year out. Consistency is difficult. Yeah, man. The five picks after Darnold have all been to the Pro Bowl. So Sam Darnold went number three. Denzel Ward, Pro Bowl. So Sam Darnold went number three.

Denzel Ward, Pro Bowl. Real deal. Bradley Chubb, Pro Bowl. Real deal. Quentin Nelson, Pro Bowl. Real deal. Josh Allen, Pro Bowl. Rayquan Smith, Pro Bowl.

Wait. Oh, Baltimore Rayquan Smith? Yeah. He went to the Bears first. He went to the Bears first. He's been a Pro Bowler. That's right. Yeah.

Hey, them boys was good. Everybody you name is the realler. That's right. Yeah. Hey, them boys was good. Everybody you name is the real deal. Mm-hmm. And Chubb just got traded to Miami because the Broncos like, well, we're not going

to where let's see if we can parlay the... Bradley Chubb. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. For the Broncos. Yeah. Zach Wilson went number two

to the Jets. Trey Lance went number three. Kyle Pitts went number four. Went for a thousand yards. Went to the Jets. Trey Lance went number three. Kyle Pitts went number four. Went for 1,000 yards. Went to the Pro Bowl his first year. Jamar Chase going to the Pro Bowl. Real deal. Pene Sewell going to the Pro Bowl. Pastor Tan going to the Pro Bowl.

Micah Parsons has gone to many Pro Bowls. And he's been an all-pro every year he's been in the league. But Ocho, you miss on that quarterback. There's so much emphasis pro every year he's been in the league. But Ocho, you miss on that quarterback. There's so much emphasis on him because he's for your structural foundation. I don't care how much marble. I don't care how much mahogany and piano wood you got in your house.

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college football playoffs now I told you I said Ocho if I tell you a dunk smoke cigarettes you grab him and check on his wing he got a pack of butter there

hey I'm so glad there's no I'm so glad we on this right now because you got to give me a better understanding of how in the hell Florida State go undefeated and don't make the playoffs. Somebody asked me, right? The first thing I said, you know what? I don't even have to watch college football like that to understand the four teams that they pick.

They choose to go. Follow the money. Follow the money. Just follow the money. Outside of that, that is the bottom line. Come hell or high water behind all things and then they're going to talk. Stop thinking with your emotions. Stop thinking because you're a fan of that team or you have allegiance to them. That's your

alma mater. Follow the money. That's what the committee is doing. Ocho, the thing is that I don't know what people are thinking. Right. So you mean to tell me you thought the committee was going to leave two 12-1 SEC teams out of the college football playoffs. Is that what you thought? The toughest conference in the country. Right.

Year in and year out. And you got two 12-1 teams, and you're going to leave both of them at home. I told you, and I was trying to explain to people, and I said it on first day, I said, with their quarterback being injured, and you own your second and third quarterback, I said the committee is going to hold that against them. I said if Alabama beats Georgia, they're going to the that against them. I said, if Alabama beats Georgia, they're going to the college football

playoff. That's Bama. If Georgia beat Alabama, then you think Florida State would have been in? Florida State would have been in. Because now you take Georgia, you take Michigan, you take UW, and you take Florida State because nobody else has no compelling argument.

But Georgia just beat the number one team in the country. They've won 11 straight games. And you look at Florida State struggled against Louisville. They needed to beat them 40 to nothing. Do they take into account strength of schedule?

Does all that even matter? Yes. Alabama, from the homework I did, Alabama had the fifth an account strength of schedule does all that even matter or the just about yes yes so alabama alabama from from from the homework i did alabama had the fifth strongest schedule this year yes so they're in even though they have uh even though they have a loss and the fact that they just beat georgia they beat georgia they beat the number one they beat the the 29 team that hadn't lost in in two and a half years years yeah they beat that team okay and i knew and i knew look i like kirby but they were talking about kirby is the best because no

kirby's not kirby's had the best talent over the last two years right because you mean to tell me if coach saban would have had that talent he wouldn't have won the national championship right i love kirby i like kirby a lot i don't love him I like him a lot and I think he's a fabulous coach and he got he cut his teeth under Coach Saban but St. Nick is where it's at there's never been a coach

in college football that was better than St. Nick and I'm talking and I'm old enough to remember Coach Bryant I'm old enough to remember a lot of them not him

Dr. Tom Osborne when he won all of his championships in the 90s and when he had that Nebraska team in the 80s, when they were the old Big 8, I don't know if you remember the old Big 8 conference. Not Tommy

Frazier. Tommy Frazier and nutcase Lawrence Phillips. They were, man, they averaged like 400 yards rushing the game. With that option?

They just bludgeoned people. Yeah. They just beat people down. Yeah. Well, you know what? My next question goes, well, now you have, we all know the four teams that are in there. Michigan is one.

Washington is two. Texas is three. Alabama is four. So Michigan plays Alabama. Washington plays Texas. So you tell me how it's going to play out. What you think? Look, did you hear?

For everybody that's watching, if you're gambling, if you're a gambling man or you're a gambling woman, you listen to Unk and bet your house on what Unk tell you. This is what I do know. When it was announced, because they announced the first three teams first. Right. Michigan, Washington, Texas. And who will face Michigan in the fourth spot?

When they unveiled it was Alabama. Did you hear the size that came over Michigan's locker room? They thought they was going to get Florida State and a second or third team quarterback. And make it easy to get to the national championship, huh? You're going to have to play. You're going to have to play. Because that's one thing about St. Nick. He's going to have them ready. How do they match up, though? How do the Wolverines match up?

Michigan is a physical team. They try to bludgeon people. I can only remember only a handful of teams since he's gone back to Alabama that beat him running the football.

You normally beat him with a quarterback. It's a Cam Newton. It's a Johnny Manziel. Zeke ran him off the field, but Cordell Jones had some timely throws. Normally, if you beat him, even when they lost in the Sugar Bowl that night to Trevor Knight,

he threw for 300 plus yards. Normally, in order to beat an Alabama defense, you have to throw the football. Is Michigan capable of actually throwing the ball up and down the field like that? Michigan pride themselves and said, you know what?

We tougher than you are. We gonna bully you? That's what they believe. That's a Jim Harbaugh's philosophy. Right. If you watched him when he coached the 49ers, you see how they played.

They were suffocating with big fans. You're suffocating defense and Colin Kaepernick and Frank Gore and that crew running the football. Right.

I mean, you can do that if you have the personnel to do so, but we talk about Alabama. They got them hogs. They got them hogs up front now. You know it. And Jalen Monroe has gotten better. Remember now, he was big.

He was big. And he got the job back and he hasn't looked back. And so guys make a bone. Isaiah bone. Guys are making plays for him. That defense played outstanding yesterday, but Jalen Moreau, his legs is what got him because they could not give the ball back to Georgia.

And he gets outside. He goes for 30. He stays inbounds. And then he gets a first down. The guy punches the ball out. The ball comes out, but he lands on it. They run the clock out. So it's going to be – I like this matchup.

I'm not surprised of the four teams that made it. Texas, I love Sark. Sark is unbelievable. It's going to be a great game. But I think the game that people are kind of circling is when you got three blue bloods.

Texas, Alabama, and Michigan. You don't get any bluer than that. You don't get any bluer than that. Washington is the outlier. But, man, this is going to be a great matchup. The two programs, I think Michigan is the winninglier. Yeah. But, man, this is going to be a great matchup. The two programs, I think Michigan is winning its program in NCAA history in terms of football. Right.

I think Alabama is probably like three or four. Texas, the burnt orange is back in business. Yeah. Sartre got him. And where did he go? Went to Coach Saban, rehabilitated himself. Right. Got a job.

Very deserving of the job at UT, turned that program completely around because you know they come to the SEC next year. Texas, Oklahoma, now, and everybody talking about, oh, they're going to 12. So now you're going to have five teams from the SEC. And you're going to have four teams from the SEC in the college football player. Right. And you're going to have two or three from the big team. So now you're going to be mad all over again And you're going to have two or three from the big team. So now you're going to be mad all over again

because you're going to have five, six, seven teams from two conferences in the college football playoff. And now you're mad. You'll get lip stuck out. Mm-hmm. Man, that ain't fair. But what you want to do?

That's crazy. With strength of schedule, are the colleges, are the head coaches in charge of who you pick to play? Or is that done by somebody else separately? You should purposely, you should purposely,

I mean, this is what I would do. Well, you got to play X amount of SEC games. Right. You got to play X amount of those. But I would want my schedule to be a little bit more difficult so when the time comes, the committee can't use strength of schedule

as a reason for me not making it. No, you don't. Man, I ain't taking no chances. Man, you think I'm finna go out there? If you think I'm some team in the Big Ten, I'm gonna play Alabama or I'm gonna play Georgia. You watch your damn battle, Cho. No.

Yeah. My boys will be ready. Guess who got the toughest strength of schedule? Such and such. But they got three losses. Where that gonna get you? Okay. You see, Alabama couldn't make it last year with two losses. Your goddamn Florida State were goddamn undefeated.

And look what they used the strength to say. That's the goddamn reason why they're not in there. I mean, that's bull. And then they're going to say, well, their quarterback ain't there. They're down to their third string quarterback. What does that have to do with the matter of the fact that they are undefeated? What's the purpose of going undefeated? Going undefeated.

If you're not rewarded. It was such a bad break, and I feel bad for Florida State. Yeah. But I'm not surprised by the outcome of the committee taking Alabama. Those three. Follow the money. If you saw the Wolf of Wall Street, just follow the money. Yeah, because Alabama going to bring them.

Bring them out. Bring them out. Who wins the national championship? The chat says 39% says Bama, 30% says Michigan, and Texas and Washington both get 16%. So that just goes to show you that a lot of people still

believe that Alabama is Alabama. So they count out UW? Man, don't count out Pennix Jr. now. Pennix Jr. is the real deal back there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. That's going to be, I mean, for Texas,

Texas might have the most balanced team, both offensively and defensively, because yours can throw the football. They got some great receivers. A running back can run the football. Their defense is solid. So, from an overall standpoint, they're probably the most balanced, the most complete team.

Right. But Michigan, Michigan, I mean, it's going to be, you know, people want to see Michigan and Alabama. They don't get an opportunity to lock horns much. That'd be a good one. And so, that's going to be a good one. We kind of touched on this earlier, Ocho, I made Doka, called LeBron. He said, stop crying like B-I-T-C-H doka called LeBron he said stop crying like

B-I-T-C-H's man LeBron we're all grown men that B word ain't cool I'm a soft ass boy stop B-I-T-C-H acting like you gonna do something you see walking over here like you gonna do something maybe Mr.

I made maybe he wanted to smoke I made a doka maybe he wanted to smoke. I may a doka. Maybe he wanted to smoke. Okay. You get your ass tore up, coach. Get your ass tore up. Man, don't be playing. Look here.

If you ain't got no pants on, if you ain't got no jersey on, and you talking sideways? Yeah. I mean, that's a good thing. Listen, the player, the Rocket players, the Rocket player, you see your coach talking trans to the king like that, you know what that do for the morale of the team? Oh the rocket player, you see your coach talking trash to the king like that, you know what that do for the morale of the team? Oh, shit, we finna play.

We finna play for this. Oh, man, coach got tore up. I almost said N-word. Hey, man, coach got tore up. Hey, but listen, I mean, it give you, especially when you deal with them young kids, man,

and they see you, you know, moving and operating like that in that type of manner. I'll say, hey, coach is really with that. He with the shits. Shit, that's somebody we got there and play for. But see, the thing is with Bron is that Bron is like,

he just like want to get along. Bron just all about love and all about peace. He said, man, Bron, just don't use that word loosely. LeBron is trying to reason with him. Right, right, right, right. But, okay. Coach one's trying to reason.

He's trying to win the game. Coach trying to win the game. I'm saying, okay, I may. Now, you keep being like the cabbage, all head, no ass. Okay, you're going to find out. Okay? Okay, now. You better stop.

Okay. Hold on, hold on. I got to write that one down. Try to be like a cabbage. All head and no ass. Okay. Now you think I'm stealing some of these. I'm going to use that one. I'm going to use that one for real.

Man, people done got the way to get reckless, Ocho. Right, right, right, right. But like I said, I don't know how to lock a room, but I came up in the 90s. Yeah. Another grown man wasn't finna talk to no grown man like that. Right, right. Because, man, everybody don't play. Everybody don't know how you talk to somebody.

Right. You can't talk to everybody like that, man. You just can't. It's different i i'm thinking of just just playing on the park man playing ball ymca parks traveling like i said you know being at being at venice beach being at the ymca just pick up ball growing up that's the way i'm maybe it's where i'm from where i'm from listen you understand is trash talk from eight o'clock in the morning to eight o'clock at night.

And anything that has to do with anything competitive, no matter what, it doesn't matter whether it's spades, basketball, football, soccer. If you're fighting and you know every punch, you're saying the word bitch. Every punch, you know, you talk, you talk about it. It just is a part of it. So it's really hard for me to understand why the word even bothers you that much when you know you're really not a bitch anyway. You know you're not soft anyway, but it just comes with the territory.

Okay. You see a B-I-T-C-H slapping. That's all you got to do. Yeah. If you see one slapping. Right, right, right, right. I understand. Okay, man.

I understand. But here's the thing. When a man tell you to stop playing, if a man tell you don't call me that again, let that go, bro. Yeah. Let that go. Right.

Let that go. Just like, I get it. And he's going to talk about what you're going to do. Okay. Yeah. Okay, now you're tough. Okay, now you're tough. Right, right. When you was in a basketball uniform, now you're tough. Okay, now you're tough. Right, right.

When you was in a basketball uniform, you never said that. You never said, because LeBron played against you. You never said none of this. Now you on the sidelines, you're going to get tough? Yeah. Hey, unless you got Kevlar on, suits don't make you tough. Unless you got Kevlar. Yeah, Le Teflon.

Man, see, LeBron could have hit it with the low blow and it ended all talk. You know what, I ain't going to do this. I ain't going to see you. Don't do it. When they go low,

we go high. No, we don't. When you go low, I go to the basement. I'm going lower than you. Right, right. Yeah. I go to hell if I have to. That's how low I'm willing to go. Again, I like it though. I'm putting

myself in the shoes of the players that play for the Rockets. Man, you see our head coach? Yeah, he found that. Man, he got, man, Bron tore his ass up. I don't know why he was talking

reckless to the king like that. Man, listen, I understand. Everybody respects LeBron for all his accomplishments. No, they don't have to talk to him reckless like that. I know, but you not understanding

what that would do for the team, though. Yeah, you got to understand and see where I'm coming from. Yeah, for sure. I mean, look, if I'm on. Yeah, you got to understand and see where I'm coming from. Yeah, for sure. I mean, look, if I'm on that team, I got to back up. I mean, my coach writing checks, but I got the cash. Right, right, right, right, right. I ain't got no problem because I played in Baltimore,

and Brian always wrote checks. Yeah. And we had the cash. Right. Now, okay, fine. I ain't got no problem. I don't got no problem with talking. Like I said, I just needed to know how we going to play the game, Ocho.

Are we snap the whistle? When they blow the whistle, we done? Or we snap till after the whistle? Right, right. Till they break us up. However you want to do it. You're ready. You can do it.

Either way. And I will give it to you shipping and handling because I'm going to make sure you get it back because I don't want no question. Man, I ain't get what we do to me. You're going to get it back. I'm going to get you back. Yeah. I'm going to get your you get it back because I don't want no question. Man, I ain't get what it would do to me. You're going to get it back. I'm going to get you back. Yeah. I'm going to get your ass back. Oh, yeah, for sure.

Because I can make everything look just like a player in the game. I block. I cut, block you. I get you. Yeah. And then, man, you... Hey, keep on.

Okay. You over there bumping them gums. Now you're talking about stop cutting. No, stop running your mouth. I couldn't do that. That's too much.

That's too much energy wasted. I needed all my energy. And if I don't get you, I'm going to get your teammates. Hey, man, what the fuck? Hey, your boy running his mouth. Don't even shut up. You his teammate. So, hey, if I don't get him, I get you.

Next man out? Sure. If I don't get him, I'm going to get you his team. Right, right, right. So, that ain't no word in there. That's funny. If I don't get him, I'm going to get his team. Right, right, right. So that is what it is. That's funny. Fan question. Cleveland squad asked, so with Purdy winning today,

is he now in the lead for the MVP? What's Purdy numbers? I think Dak got great numbers. Yeah. And I think the Cowboys are going to have a record good enough that will vindicate Dak and say if he gets the MVP and they go, they lost three games already, so they go 14-3, they go 13-4.

He's going to have a good enough record and his numbers are going to be good enough that if he won the award, you can't you can't argue with it. I think I think he's going to win. He is 23 and six. Dak is what? Twenty six and six. Dak is 26 and six.

What's Lamar's number? Lamar's 13-5. It's going to be hard because at the end of the day, Ocho, you know this is – people are like, oh, man, he winning. But, bro, you got to have stats to go along with those winnings. You look at Purdy's numbers. You look at Dak's numbers. Dak has the same record as Lamar.

And Purdy has the same record team-wise as Lamar. But Purdy has 10 more touchdowns. Dak has 13 more touchdowns. How you gonna get MVP if they have the same record? How you gonna get MVP to Lamar? With Purdy with those numbers, with Dak with those numbers. What's Jalen Hurts' numbers?

Jalen has 19 and 10. Yeah. What's a, who else has some big time numbers? Josh. Josh Allen leading the NFL right now. Josh has like, I think he had like 29, 30 touchdowns total.

Yeah. 24 and 13. Yeah. But I think, I think the interception and the turnovers are going to cause him. So right now, right now for me, Purdy, Dak, and Lamar. But here's the thing, though, Ochoa. Check this out.

Considering Purdy's team beat Dallas, Purdy team beat the Eagles. Purdy had, what, seven, eight touchdowns and a clean game against both of them. I think in the voters' eyes, they're looking at Purdy right now in the cat purse. Because I saw Purdy, Dak. I think right now, Purdy,

Dak, Dak, Purdy. I think that's kind of where the voters are leading. You know, I think what's going to happen is there's a gauntlet. There's a gauntlet of games coming up that are very difficult for the Cowboys. A gauntlet of games that are going to tell us

who the real Cowboys are and what we're to expect from the Cowboys. They got the Eagles, they got the Bills, and they got the Dolphins. And the Dolphins. That gauntlet of games

right there will be the test of time for the Cowboys. And I think if they can win two of those three, you might as well goddamn book it. Dak is walking away with that goddamn MVP trophy. Tua is 24 and 10.

I think Tua probably has what? 22,000, 3,000 yards? Wait. Purdy probably won't have the 4 000 yards like a no no that um but that touchdown to interception ratio that right now is 26 to 6 purdy is 23 to 6 lamar is 13 to 5 hers is 19 to 10 but hers probably has another 10 rushing touchdowns, doesn't he? Mm-hmm. Allen is 24-13. C.J. Stroud is 20-5. Mm.

Tua, 24-10. Impressive. But you know what? It's going to be a situation where it probably comes down to the last day. Mm-hmm. Because Dak has done a great job over the last three weeks of taking care of the football. Jalen Hurst has 12 rushing touchdowns. So he's 31 touchdowns. How many fumbles? So he has

10 interceptions. What? Five fumbles? Just like music. Man, a rookie got 20 touchdowns with five picks. That's crazy. Wow. With five games to go.

Crazy. Yeah. Doing work. Oh, he is. He is. And it's not a situation where they're just like, oh, we're going to let you throw the ball on third down. No. He threw the ball on first down, second down, third and short, third and long.

They put the ball in his hands They go make plays son But this MVP race Is going to come down to the end It's going to come down to Just like what So right now Hurts has 29 touchdowns And 14 turnovers

10 picks 4 fumbles Damn It don't seem like he got 10 picks, 4 fumbles. Damn. It don't seem like he got 10 picks, though. Mm-hmm. Yep. 31 touchdowns? Oh, 19-12.

My bad. Damn. I was looking at the 19-10. He has 31 total touchdowns with 14 turnovers. Does Purdy have any rushing touchdowns? Let's get Pur let's get, let's get Purdy's numbers and Dak numbers. I'm telling you right now.

What you, who you like? Who you like for the MVP? If you got to pick one right now. I like, I like Dak. I like Dak. Everybody, listen, everybody else continues to get their praise.

I want to see Dak, you know, get that goddamn monkey off his back. Get that monkey off your back, man. Excuse me. Go Dak, you know, get that goddamn monkey off his back. Get that monkey off your back, man. Win your MVP, go into the playoffs, pass the first round, and get

them people off your back, man. You do know you win an MVP. You heighten the expectations. You know how that works, Ochoa. Well, listen, he played for the goddamn Dallas Cowboys, so the goddamn expectations been out the goddamn roof regardless. Okay, they're out the roof.

Now they're about to go out of the world. They got to go out of the stratosphere because now you play for the Cowboys and you got an MVP, which signifies you had the best season in a calendar season, in a football season. Yeah.

That's fine. I believe, considering what he's gone through in his adult life, the past tragic passing of his mom, the untimely demise of his brother, he built. Yeah, he built for that. He built for it. Most definitely. He built for that.

Most definitely. We'll get back to those numbers. We've got a couple of questions. The Real K Love asked How y'all feel about Puka? Oh Puka did it Oh Puka was pooping on him today Puka Nuka?

Puka Oh Puka pooped on him Yeah Puka Nakua He pooped on the Browns Puka Nakua is a real deal man Puka Nakua is a real deal And this is one of the things About being a part of that McVay

offense, man. Once they scheme up the plays for you to get the ball and understand that you are savvy enough to be able to win in situations and line you up in multiple positions, this is what you get. This is what you get. Kuba Cup, Puka

Nakua. But let me ask you a question. Like sliced bread. If I got Puka Nakua on a rookie contract, do I really need to pay Cooper Cup $17, $15, $16 million a year? So what you think they're going to do? They're going to make a business decision next year?

Yeah, I would ask them to take a pay cut or I'm going to have to move on. For real? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if they're going to go they go i mean that's that's cooper cup man they're gonna be over they're gonna be over the cap by a big number big number what would they you think would they ask aaron donald to take a pay cut i'm sure they i'm sure yeah dag has 28 total touchdowns, only six turnovers, which is so. Phenomenal, as opposed to last year.

I think they're right here. They're right now. Purdy got 25 total touchdowns, seven total. They're right here. The thing that got Purdy head-to-head, he blasted Dak and he blasted Jalen.

But if you say Dak, if the voter was the day and Dak won it, I wouldn't even be mad at you. I wouldn't even be mad at you. I mean, you shouldn't be mad because I told you he was going to win it. I done told you ahead of time you're going to win it. I wouldn't even be mad at you. I mean, you shouldn't be mad because I told you he was going to win it. Yeah. I done told you ahead of time

you're going to win it. I wouldn't even be mad at you. I would not be mad at you. The Cowboys have the Eagles. Who do the 49ers play next week, Ash? Jalen Hurts has 31 total touchdowns

14 turnovers Allen is right up there also Allen has a bunch of touchdowns also Yeah I thought Josh Allen Was leading the NFL in touchdowns He was But he's on a bye

He's on a bye And you know What you call him Had a rush touchdown And a pass touchdown No Hurts Oh okay okay, Hurts. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Hurts.

So... Who the Eagles got? 49ers played the Seahawks next week. They got the Seahawks. Now remember they went to Seattle and put that thump on on a Thursday night about two weeks ago. Yeah, yeah. Here's the 49ers

schedule. Seahawks. Cardinals. Ravens. Commanders. Rams. Shoot, they can go that last five. They can go four on one., they could go 4-1.

Yeah, 4-1, 5-0. Yeah. I mean, they're going to give everybody because they – look, they're as balanced as we're going to find in the National Football League. They can run it. They can throw it. They do a great job of protecting the quarterback, and they do a great job of protecting the football.

Right. So they're going to be a tough eye for anyone, no matter where you play them at. I think the Ravens go to San Fran, don't they? Or do San Frans come easy? It's in San Fran. Ooh, that's going to be a good one. That's going to be a good one.

That's going to be a good one. The Nathan High Voltage 52 says, I'm an objective Cowboy fan. That's a lie. There is no objectivity with a Cowboy fan. But you ask the question, we're going to answer. I've never said this. This is our year.

Being a Cowboy fan is like being a parent of a bad child. Hope when they get better with age. But I couldn't wait to know what I was going to say about my Cowboys after a long time. I'm glad you know. I'm glad you know. I'm glad you know. Because, you know, when you got a bad kid, they blame everybody. It's the teacher.

They ain't teaching my son. They pick on my son. He get on the bus. He pulling people here and he doing all this stuff. That bus driving don't like my son. That's what it is. I know. He think he's lit.

And my son, my kid, my kid doesn't know. If your kid bad at home, what the hell you think your kid gonna be when he take his ass to school? If he ain't listening to you, if he ain't listening to you, you think he gonna listen to somebody that's not you? But Nathan, high voltage.

Thanks for your question, bro. I don't know if there's such thing as a, that seems oxymoronic to say objective and cowboy fan. It's like saying Quiet Riot or Jumbo Shrimp. How you be Jumbo and a shrimp? Shrimp by nature is miniature. And then Jumbo is big, so you can't have Jumbo miniature. And you can't have objective cowboy fan.

But appreciate it, NathanHighVoltage52, for your question. Rob Schneider asks... I don't think that's the one that you're thinking of, Ojo. What team in your guys' playing days did you want to see on Sunday? Because you knew they had some hitters and it was going to be a physical game. Shout out to the Niners.

So what team you wanted to see? Yeah, I wouldn't see any of them. I mean, look, there are certain teams that there were finesse teams and, you know, some you had to buckle any of them. I mean, look, there are certain teams that there were finesse teams and, you know, some you had to buckle that thing up. Yeah. We played Kansas City. We know Kansas City.

Yeah. Kansas City were coming. Back in the 90s, they were a defensive-based team. Yeah. I don't want people to think that what you see today is Kansas City. They weren't like that. Nah. They had heavyweights.

They had DT, Neal Thomas, Joe Phillips, Dan Salamua. They had thumpers. They had Deron Cherry. They had Martin Blayless. They had heavyweights. They had DT, Neil Thomas, Joe Phillips, Dan Salamua. They had thumpers. They had Deron Cherry. They had Martin Blayless. They had Kevin Ross. They had Albert Lewis. They had Dale Carter. They had James Hastie.

They had thumpers. They had headbusters on that side. So you knew, and they were going to cheap shot you. So, you know, you had to keep your head on the swivel. And so every chance you get, hey, they try to send one of yours out the game, you try to send one of theirs to the emergency room. It is what it is.

It is. I think for me, the NFC was very easy. And they weren't really physical at all. But when it came to that AFC North, when it came to that AFC North, you better have two motherfucking chin straps when you play the Steelers

and you play the Ravens. During that 2000 era? Man, shit. But you know, Ocho, before you got there, it used to be the Ravens, the Steelers, the Jags,

the Titans, the Browns, and the Bengals. That was the AFC North. Really? All of them? Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. I didn't know that. Yes. I appreciate that history lesson. All of us was in the same. In the 2000s, we had to play the Titans, the Jags.

Those were some – oh, Tennessee used to thumb too. Yeah. When they had the freak. When they had the freak. Yeah. Man, I wish people could have seen the freak before he got injured. He messed his ankle up. Javon Kersh, yeah.

Man. Man, hey. And all they get on defense and they play on and they come over the PA system. Oh, freak out. He coming. Oh, Joe, he coming.

He had the first, he had the quickest first step. Yeah. And DT had, but for a man his size, he had the quickest first step I ever seen. Yeah. Yeah, man for a man his size, he had the quickest first step I ever seen. Yeah.

Yeah, man. Man, that joke would be on a wide nine and at the snap of the ball, he'd cross your face if you ain't careful. Right. Oh, man, he was special.

Oh, he was special. And the thing is, what made Tennessee, there was a hatred between us and Tennessee. Right. There was a hatred between us and the Steelers.

We hated them. Hated. And that's when they had, they had, who they had? They had JP, Joey Porter. They had, what's Gilder there? Joey used to talk some trash, boy. Earl Holmes, did you play against Earl? Nah, nah.

I remember Earl. Earl Holmes? I remember Earl. Yeah, man. And, man, they had another linebacker. He ended up going to Kansas City. I can't think of the dude's name. But Ocho? Boy, he would drop that thump on

your ass. From University of Georgia. What was that line? What was his name? Ah, man. The boy we're hitting, huh? What? Ocho. Ocho. Ocho. Ocho Ocho Ocho Ocho

but you know we had so because here's the thing Steelers they known for defense oh yeah and the Ravers

oh yeah we had Ray we had Peter Boulware we had Rob we had Mike McQuarrie Adelius Thomas yeah man y'all was loaded

Adelius Adelius when I got when 2000 Adelius was a rookie so AD didn't get much playing time when I was there then when I got to 2000, Adelius was a rookie so AD didn't get much playing time when I was there, then when I left he moved into the starting lineup Kendrell Bell, that was his name

I remember Kendrell Bell hey, he used to thump, boy, I remember buddy what? I remember buddy he used to thump, boy yeah, Jit Jit was Yeah, Jit was nice. Jit was nice. He was nice.

Yeah, man. I remember Jit very bad. Steelers used to bring pain. And you know what? You know who a coach used to talk a lot of smack? Coach Cowher. Bill? Yeah, man.

He don't look like no trash. Don't let him fool you. Don't let him fool you oh yeah coach I know you'll get we used to go at it we used to go at it Mike asks what do you think about Mike Evans and where he fits in other

elite receivers 10 straight seasons of 1,000 yards I look because he came up nobody ever thought that he was Fitzgerald or he's Tyreek now you got Chase you got Jefferson

so sometimes you can have a great career and it gets overshadowed and I'm afraid that's what happened with Mike Evans what you think? I love Mike he doesn't talk much he just puts his hard hat on.

He goes out and does what he needs to do year in and year out regards to who's that quarterback in regards to who's at the helm. He catches the ball, he scores touchdowns and he's had consistent 1000 yard receiving 1000 yard receiving yards for a decade straight. That in itself is an enormous feat. It's commendable and he is definitely a Hall of Famer for doing so. Yep. Consistency

is difficult. It's the key. Yeah. Consistency is very difficult. And for the most part, he shows up every single year. And you know what you're going to get out of it. You know what you're going to get out of it. Kudos to Mike Evans.

Congratulations. 10 straight 1,000-yard receiving seasons. Boy, to start a career, that's saying something. That's saying something. Carlos Smith asks, who had a better big three, you, TD Elway, or Troy Emory, the playmaker? Man, them Jokers played together. Hold on.

They played together. That's a good trio. Yeah, but they see, they was together from 89, no, from 90. 90. So 90, they played together until about 99.

You know, John only played 95, only played four years with TD. Damn. Only played four years with TD because John retired after the 98 season and TD got

hurt in 99 he was okay but he wasn't the same once he tore his knee he wasn't the same I had left and went back but I talked more ish than any playmaker that's for sure I bet you that

but I mean it's hard to argue I mean Emmitt won two MVPs uh they won three Super Bowls in four years we won two uh they would I mean we the triplets they that was their big we had our version of the triplets with myself John and TD but the triplets give me a dude I like I give me a dude the triplets with myself, John, and TD. But the triplets. Give me a dude. Give me a dude. My triplets was better than y'all, though. Who? Me, TJ, and Chris Henry.

What you mean, who? You got to have a running back and a quarterback. We had Rudy Johnson and Carson Palmer. What you talking about? This man say Rudy Johnson. You better be talking about God dang old Fat Albert Rudy. Nah, I'm talking about Rudy Johnson. Auburn, you the motherfucking versity. That Rudy Johnson. You better be talking about God dang old Fat Albert Rudy. Nah, I'm talking about Rudy Johnson. Auburn, you the motherfucking Versity.

That Rudy Johnson. Yeah. You said Rudy Johnson better than TD? I'm talking about trios. Did I say anybody was better than anybody? We talking about trios, right? I had my own trio too. So you putting Carson with Elway?

Huh? I'm talking about my trio. That's what I'm saying. You, Carson, and Rudy. Nigga, we better than both of y'all trios. Talk about. Y'all don't want to see us. All I know.

Now, two of the three trios that we got, our three members are in the hall. What? You talking about like a hall? A hall? Like, oh, you got a call? No, not a haul. Wait, it's about cough drop?

Paws? Football heaven. Football heaven. That's all right. Football heaven. That's all right. That's all right. Listen, everybody ain't fortunate,

but I like my trio better. I can't believe that you put Rudy Johnson in front of TD and Emmitt. Man, I'm putting my teammate before whoever. I put my teammate before whoever. I put my teammate before whoever and whenever, and I like my trio better than your trio and the Cowboy trio. Well, you better

combine Corey Dillon and Rudy Johnson and Iggy Johnson and Iggy Woods. Matter of fact, quiet is kept. Corey Dillon is the better running back than everybody you just named. On the Bengals.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about TD and Emmitt. Oh, Joe. Corey Dillon. You do realize that TD averaged 142 yards a game in the playoff rushing? Why you mention this stuff that we can't control as individuals? That is a team accomplishment. Your guy didn't average 142 yards. My guy got 2,000. We can't control this individual. That is a team accomplishment.

Your guy that averaged 142 yards, my guy got 2,000. How did he get 2,000? Because what? Running the football. I know. Did he run by himself or did he have help? Your team should have got him 2,000. Don't talk about my team. Did y'all have any running plays?

Yeah, we had running plays. We did Okay My guy was My guy was My guy was being out of the game My guy during his 2,000 yard season Was out during the third quarter

Wouldn't even play the fourth quarter Out at the half Because he done ran for 160 yards at the half Can I tell you something? Who does that? I don't care I don't care

None of them numbers I'm still going with my trio I'm going with my trio. Oh, you're going to be who? Y'all going to be who? Whoa, whoa, whoa. What you finna say? Y'all going to be who? Man, we didn't beat the... Yo, whoa. Nah, now we talking, my mother. Hold up. My 90 ain't Broncos?

Your 90 ain't Broncos. Ain't beating the 2005 Bengals. Don't do that. Don't... Let me take my... We'd have beat y'all to y'all shit, then. We would beat y'all for shitting on the field. Yo, the 2005 Bengals. Your 98 Broncos was not beating us. Stop playing, man. Stop thinking just, oh, it's

the Bengals. Oh, we finna run. You not beating us. Y'all the Bengals. But you just said it. Stop thinking. I can't stop thinking. I'm just thinking of the concept of the old Bengals. Y'all the Bengals. But you just said it. Stop thinking. I can't stop thinking. I'm just thinking of the concept of the old Bengals and how we were thought of. Old Bengals, new Bengals, y'all suck. You was not beaten. You know what?

I mean, I appreciate you sticking up for your team. And that's very commendable of you. But we the beat the dog. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm not trying to make jokes. Statistically speaking, the 2005 yard season was the best ever and your 98 Broncos

had never had a season like that, like we had offensively. You were not going to beat us. You would have not beat us that 2005 year. It might have been 2006. I forgot what year it was. I don't care. If you combine the seasons,

do you understand what we had? Do you understand what we had? We had Rudy Johnson, Carson Palmer, Chris Henry, myself.

y'all won 11 games. Ocho, y'all won 11 games. Do you realize we went a three-year span. We won 39 total games in three years. I don't care nothing about what you did then. I'm talking about that 2005 bang.

I'd have quit. You would not have beat us. I'm guaranteeing you wouldn't have beat us. From 96 to 98, if we won less than 12 games, I'd have retired. You won 11 games. Y'all celebrating. Man, listen. Listen, I'm talking about your team, your 9-8 team beating us. It wasn't living games. Y'all celebrating. Man, listen. I'm talking about your

team, your 9-8 team beating us. It wasn't happening. Offensively, we would have ran y'all off the motherfucking field into the locker room. And I mean that respectfully. Ocho. The 9-8 Broncos, we were second in points scored. You know who was first? Who?

Minnesota. That was Randy Moss' rookie year. What does that have to do with what I just said? Ocho, y'all couldn't beat the Steelers. Why didn't we beat the Steelers? What happened? Oh, you forgot. What happened?

Why didn't we beat the Steelers? What happened the first play of the game? I don't know. You know what happened. How about this here? We played four games without John Elway. In the regular season, we played four games and averaged more points with Bubby than we did with John. With who?

And we averaged 30. Bubby Brista. Hey, I remember Bubby Brista. We the red y'all ass out the field. Bubby Brista. Y'all want to beat us? We the red y'all out the field. Shit me. Ocho. Ocho, we outsc. Y'all wouldn't have beat us. Where the red y'all out to feel? Shit and me. Ocho.

Ocho, we outscored y'all by 80 points. You outscored who by 80 points? We outscored y'all. We scored 501 points. Y'all scored 421. I'd have been embarrassed to score with that offense we had. Let me tell you something.

Listen, I love you, Unc. I love you. I love what y'all had over in Denver. Y'all would not have beat out 2005 Bengals, man. I'm just telling you. I'm just being honest with you, man. Y'all couldn't do it without Ocho. I'm just being honest.

How was y'all going to stop us? Think about that. Ocho. How was y'all going to stop us? Ocho, do you see the 49ers? You see the 49ers with Brock Purdy? Yeah. You see how the offense look?

Yeah. So now you imagine TD ran for 2,000, two 1,000-yard receivers, a 10-touchdown tight end. Our offensive line was just as good. We had 2,000-yard receivers too. What you saying? What are you saying?

We'd have beat the ish out of y'all. Yeah, all right. Well, there's no way. All I know is this here. We're chronicled as the 12th best team in NFL history. I don't know where y'all chronicled. I ain't worried about all that. I don't care nothing about chronicles. I know what would happen if we had played y'all. Well, all you had to because, you know, y'all won the playoffs. Y'all won Super Bowls. The chat is delusional too.

And everybody in the chat that's not for the Bengals, I see you. And lose my phone if I get y'all earlier too. Just you and Rail for the Bengals. And Rail sleeps. So only you for the Bengals right now.

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I would like to hear the stories about, did you catch? No, I didn't. Look, we didn't throw no balls at time. When he was at the Cowboys, we didn't throw no balls at him. Yeah, sure. You better not. Why throw balls at time when we can beat hell out of the rest of the guys? We had the ball five times in the first half.

We had 35 points. So why mess with time? Yeah. Time had 35 points. So why mess with time? Yeah. Time had an easy day. Mm-hmm. TD had two carries for 126 yards and two touchdowns. Damn. Oh, two carries.

I had three catches for 90 yards and two touchdowns in the first half. Man, we didn't beat the... Man, look. Yeah, I see. Time was... See, I think that the thing is, see, if you watch time highlights, it doesn't do him justice. No.

They wouldn't throw the... Listen, I don't care how good Trayvon Diggs is and Jay Ram and Xavier Howard, and they're all good players. He's different. He's different. He's different.

They would not throw the ball. They would throw the ball and time say, if you throw the ball my way again, he would tell them, if you throw this ball my way again, I'm going to pick it. I'm going to high step on you. Yeah. Okay, they're going to strike up the band. Mm-hmm. Okay.

Yeah. Everybody, we're not afraid. We run our offense. Yeah, okay. And if the offense calls for us to throw the ball, okay. Yeah, yeah, okay. And the next thing you know, he's doing this on you.

Now you're looking like a boo-boo the fool. I saw Prime once. Matter of fact, Prime was, he played the nickel, if I'm not mistaken. I'm trying to remember because D.L. Carter was on me throughout that whole game. And Prime was in Baltimore

and he wore 37. I think he wore 37 because he was 37 years old at the time. We never did get a chance. I think we lined up against each other maybe once, once or twice. And I wish we had been mic'd up because all we did was sit there and talk shit the whole time. The whole time, the whole goddamn game. That was for me as a kid, you know, as a player and just being able to share the field with somebody like that, with somebody that magnitude that I actually looked up to

and wanted to be like, even though I'm not a DB. Something about, think about that. I'm on the field with Deion Sanders, man. I was standing in line trying to buy his shoes, trying to do the glove, trying to wear the socks. I used to put on like three or four socks just to get him up high and roll him down. Just, oh, that was one of the greatest moments of my career. It wasn't about, it wasn't no touchdowns or catches but being able to

share the you know share the football field with somebody like that dog that was unbelievable that was unreal hey uh uncle no joe uncultured jay asked hey uncle no joe what was your first star struck moment also ocho you didn't hear it hit me, but someone said your forehead looks like you use echolocation. What that mean? What's echolocation? I don't know. Ain't nothing wrong with my forehead. My forehead is intact.

I be. You need a little Botox. You need a little Botox like your boy. Nah, I don't need no Botox. I don't do no Botox either. Nah, I don't need none. I mean, you got a bone here. Ooh, this ain't

nothing but knowledge. What was your first starstruck moment? First starstruck moment? Oh, that's a good one. Ooh, that's a good one right there, huh? Man, the preseason. Man, that's a good one. Man, my first preseason game, I mean, my second preseason

game, we played the 49ers. Jerry, that's a good one. Man, my first preseason game, I mean, my second preseason game, we played the 49ers. Jerry, Joe Montana. No, ain't no Steve, Joe. Right. Jerry. I caught a touchdown on a Monday night. Right. And hit the hammer on him.

Don't hurt him, hammer. Yeah. Don't hurt him, hammer. Yeah. Man, that's a good one. So, I mean, outside of football, I mean, just life in general, do you have a starstruck moment?

Because I'm trying to think of mine. In 93, I got, the Super Bowl was in Atlanta. Yeah. I got on the elevator. I'm on the elevator. I'm getting on, the door opened up. Michael Jordan and his first wife on the elevator. Nah, boy.

MJ? I get on the elevator. Nah, boy. MJ? I get on the elevator and all of a sudden, it's bright. Yeah. It's like this end glowing. That boy. And I'm looking at him. He's like, man, this dude a weirdo. Did he say nothing?

I did. I said, hey, I'm Shannon Sharp. He said, I know who you are. He said, I met your mom in the casino. He said, yeah, I know you and your brother. Y'all some bad boys. I'm just...

You was in awe, huh? Yeah, yeah. That's Michael Jordan. Now, I worked out. I met Denzel. His son, John David, used to train with my trainer when he was in Morehouse. Right, right. Met Samuel Jackson.

Met Oprah in the four seasons. Gale. Yeah. David Beckham. Victoria Beckham. Oh, I done bumped it. But to see Michael Ocho, and I tell people this, and you look at, as a matter of fact, go listen to Damon Lillard say when he saw him at the 75th anniversary

he said he didn't say anything to him so he couldn't believe it right Ocho this man doesn't seem real he's the only man that I've ever met he doesn't seem he seems mythical I know that's Michael Jordan I'm looking at him

that's a man right that's Ocho man he love a team and anybody that's Michael Jordan. I'm looking at him. That's a man. Right, that's live. But Ocho, man, he love a team. And anybody that's ever met him, from Shaq to everybody, say the exact same thing. He doesn't seem real. Yeah, that's dope. And I met him on several occasions

because he and Oak are very good friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, when Oak was with the Wizards, I went to the game. I went to the... Oak got me tickets. I went to the game. I went to the... Oak got me tickets.

I went to the game. Went back. So, I'm leaving and I'm walking and somebody stick the head out the window. Man, take out that tiny ass shirt.

You too big for that shirt. It's Mike. He yelling out the window to somebody, take out this tight shirt, that too little ass shirt. Ocho, I ain't never,

I can't put it in a word, but this man is like, he levitating when you talk to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever met him? Yeah, I met MJ once. It was a golf tournament,

a golf tournament that I had to go to. I didn't say much. He was smoking a cigar. You know, I walked by, shook his hand. It's a pleasure. You know, I walked by Sugar's hand. It's a pleasure. You know, I kept moving.

But for me, starstruck, probably my first time, my first time was meeting Cristiano, Cristiano Ronaldo, when I was with Nike at the time. I was a rookie. And what I did during my off season, for those of you listening,

you know, my first love has always been soccer. It always will be. If you follow me on Twitter, obviously, I know you're sick of the soccer content. But when I was with Nike in 2001, maybe 2002,

whatever year it was, it made it easy to bridge the gap with the other athletes that were sponsored by Nike as well. Obviously, the understanding of how much I love the game of soccer. Every offseason, where do you think I travel to during the offseason to go watch soccer matches?

To Europe. To Europe. So I used the relationship with Nike to meet the players consistently year in and year out. I forgot at what one point, at this point now, Cristiano was at Real Madrid. So I had my agent call, listen, Chad Johnson, He's flying out, he's coming to a game It happened to be El Clasico He wanted to come to practice, he wanted to meet Cristiano

I think Jose Mourinho might have been there at that time The special was there at the time Dude, and I had the opportunity to meet Cristiano In his prime Like the real deal And dude, it didn't even seem Like how you met When you met Jordan

It didn't even seem real It didn't even seem like how you met when you met Jordan. It didn't even seem real. Yeah, man. It didn't even seem real. Cool as hell. He's talking about working out, training. He wanted to know my nutrition, you know, what I ate. Well, obviously, he wasn't doing that, man. He just really locked in and really, dog, it was crazy.

One of the greatest experiences ever. And, dog, you don't you don't know what that that's like to meet someone of that magnitude of that caliber one of the greatest to ever play right ever grace the pitch and played a beautiful game was was awesome and so from that point on obviously i met messy after that messy didn't really know English. So the, the, the, yeah, the connection really wasn't, yeah, it wasn't the same.

Like me and Cristiano, though, that shit was fucking bananas. That shit was crazy, B. And to me, that would be my starstruck moment. And we've been cool ever since.

We've been cool. Oh, Magic too. Oh, man, I meant Magic. Magic was dope. Of all the,

of all the celebrities that i've ever met and i've met a bunch um magic johnson makes you feel like he's known you for 35 years that's how i treat people when i meet him in person yeah that joker man man how your brother tell your brother say hello man your mom doing good how you? Every, every time I've ever met magic, that's how he makes you feel. Yeah. I mean, he just, he just a great man. I'm talking about great. And not to say, I mean, I've never had a bad interaction with, with, uh, with Mike, Mike, the same way, you know, Hey, uh, but I think a lot of it because, Oh,

he and Oak are very good friends and oak and i used to work out together anytime i'm back in atlanta i call oak i'm like oh man i'm i'm at uh houston he say which one he gonna pull up if oak in atlanta and i'm somewhere eating right oh coming he coming and and vice versa right hey i called oh i said man because i had said if when the cleveland cavaliers beat the uh golden state the finals, I'm going to the parade. They won. Oak, you coming? Now, you done told everybody on TV.

I said, man, Oak. He said, hey, I already got everything taken care of. I got his backstage passes. I got all this situation just flying. I'm going to pick you up from the airport. Just tell me what time. Came in, hung with Oak, went to the parade,

got back on the plane. All the guys have been great, but man, that magic. Matter of fact, now we on a star shark. There's one, is there anybody you haven't met?

For me, there's one person that I haven't met and I don't care. I mean, I lose my motherfucking marbles. I lose my fucking mind if I had the opportunity to sit down. I just my motherfucking marbles. I lose my fucking mind if I had the opportunity to sit down.

I just want to have a conversation. All I need is 30 minutes. My favorite actor. I'm not sure if you know who Daniel Day-Lewis is. You know who Daniel Day-Lewis is? Played in Lincoln. Played in Lincoln.

Gangs of New York. There will be blood. There will be blood. Oh, listen, if I could just meet this motherfucker just one time. You want three lead actors. Oh, yeah. just one time. You want three lead actors? Oh, yeah. You're only going to every three lead actors.

The man that retired, and he's one of my favorite, maybe edging out, maybe the favorite. I just want to meet him one time and sit down and just talk with him. one of the greatest method actors of all time that I've actually seen lose themselves in character, become somebody that you don't even recognize outside of who they truly are. And I just want to meet him. I just want to meet him. I love him to death. I love all his work.

In all his work, everything he does, the roles that he takes, you talk about range? You talk about being an actor and having range? Yeah. Man, shit. Yeah. That'd be a dream for me

and actually i uh i met denzel last year uh he was at the game in which lebron became the all-time scored leader uh the okc game i think it was like february or march um i went to the game and had a conversation i uh he introduced it he introduced me uh to his wife he was explaining to his wife, he said he was the guy that looked after John David when he was in Atlanta. Because I used to work out with John David. He wanted to play in the NFL. He ended up going to the, he was on the practice squad with the Rams and then he ruptures Achilles. But it's, I mean, yeah, to be able to meet the guys, to meet Floyd Mayweather, to meet all the guys that, I mean, being on able to meet the guys to be Floyd Mayweather to meet all the guys that I mean being on this side of what I do now and being able that's the best part about my job yeah yeah I get

to talk about sports and I get to talk about a lot of stuff and people ask me but the best part the best part of my job is that I've been able to meet people that right even when I played I didn't get an opportunity to meet and so especially as far as non-athletes. Oh, I met Tyler Perry. Hey, TP. I met Drake. What's funny is when you meet people and the first thing they say,

man, you funny as hell. Yeah, yeah. Man, and you be talking that, and you know what you're talking about too now. Oh, I watch it. I've had so many people that I'm like, I know you don't. Hey, I'm going to do. Because, Ocho, I'm never going to be arrogant enough to assume everybody knows who I am.

Right. So anytime I meet anybody, how you doing? I'm Shannon Sharp. I know who you are. You don't got. But that's just me. I'm not assuming you know who you are. You don't got... But that's just me. I'm not assuming you know who I am. But man, that's been my greatest.

My greatest is to meet the people that I've had an opportunity to have an interaction with. That's dope. That's dope. That's all you got? Yeah. Chris Pearson asked, Uncle Ocho,

what were your favorite shoes growing up? And favorite shoes you have now? Oh, nice, because Ocho probably got shoes from Payless. His laptop

caught fire last week, so. Oh, no. Listen, the laptop, I mean, the laptop from last week, I bought that from my homeboy. I bought that from my homeboy. I bought that from my homeboy. I know.

It wasn't nothing but $150. Man, you think I'm going to pass that up? A laptop for $150? That used to be the case. I mean, you used to have a phone. You know, you get your phone, get a phone for $30. It's going to last for a few months. Now, it's going to last for a month before they cut it off.

Well, listen, the laptop lasted me, what, three months of the season? We in December now. Yeah. So I got that there. You plugged the wrong charge in there. Tell him what really happened. You plugged the wrong charge in there and he burnt it up. That was what happened.

How do you know? Because I know. I know you. Hey, that's literally what happened. Duh. Yeah, I know what happened. Yeah, but- My favorite shoes, good luck.

When I was growing up, Nike was not what it was you had to you had the cons you had the weapons the dr j's the magic johnson or the lab bird uh and then when spud webb won the dunk contest he won the dunk contest in city wing ponies i wouldn't got me a pair nike didn't come. Nike really didn't take off until Jordan. Now, you know, Iceman and Moses Malone. There's a lot of people that wore Nike, but ain't nobody. Nike wasn't like Converse was the shoe. Yeah. Adidas.

Kareem had the top 10 Adidas, but it was mainly Converse. All the top guys, the Magic, the Birds, the Mark Aguirre, all those guys. I think Isaiah also was a con. No, Isaiah was an Adidas guy because I think he had Adidas from Indiana. But Nike, now with Michael, and they came out with them Chicagos? Yeah, it was a wrap. It was a wrap for everybody. It was a rapper everybody for me i i got for me my favorite shoe

is i'm not sure if nobody will remember obviously when i went to school all i wanted was some bad kids no i don't know no pro kids that i wanted i wanted ballets you remember ballets yeah we know what that is the balance is still out of course there was a specific valley it was a specific valley back back in the back in the early 90s. We call them the animal ballets. They came in yellow, blue, black, red, and just a low top or a high top, and it just had animals. It had like

cows going around the sole. I begged my grandma for a pair of them goddamn ballets. My football cleats that I wore wasn't Nike. It wasn't Shark. Remember Nike Sharks back in the day? The old Nike Sharks? It was the ponies. The pony cleats that I wore. Wasn't Nike. It wasn't Shark. Remember Nike Sharks back in the day? The old Nike Sharks? Mm-hmm.

It was the ponies. The pony cleats. I had ponies. You had pony cleats? Yeah. Man, I had a pair of pony cleats, man. Converse used to make what you call them also.

You know, Converse used to make cleats. For real? Yes. I didn't know that. When I was in high school, all I wanted was an all black, they was all black pony cleats.

And in high school, I used to wear a pair of Troops. I bet you don't remember the Troops. I heard of them, but I don't remember them. You remember Troop? No. Man, I had the Troop sweatsuit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember the sweatsuit, man.

I didn't know they made shoes, but I remember the sweatsuit. Man, I had the shoes and all, man. They used to be ranking me, yeah. I remember the sweatsuits. I didn't know they made shoes, but I remember the sweatsuits. Man, they had the shoes and all, man. They used to be ranking my ass. They used to be ranking me, too. You know, Pro-Cans was a shoe. Right. You had zips. Oh, what about, oh, what about rules?

You have some rules with a zip on the side? Mm-mm. You ain't had rules. Oh, come on. Nah, we had, and we had We had you know The cons Cause you had the cons Came in

You know you had to have Those all white Lows and highs Yeah yeah yeah Snoop still wear The cons The canvas one But they came in green

Black red blue Had all kind of colors But I only had I think I had I had the whites The lows and the highs And I had a blue pair of lows. Hold on.

What about Lottos? You remember Lottos? I do. I do remember Lottos. What about Diodorus? Remember Diodorus? Diodorus, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, I got one for you. I got one for you. What about Etonics? You ain't had no Etonics? I didn't have no Etonics. You ain't had no Etonics? I remember Etonics. No.

Oh, man. I had the purple Etonics, the green, the orange, the gray. Yeah. But, you know, back there, see, you get them crease. You had to have a start. Here we start. Oh, yeah. It's interesting to get a heavy start.

Yeah. Had Lee jeans. Yeah. At least you had Calvin Klein. Sergei Rigoletto. Yeah. Valentino. Yeah.

I ain't had no. I ain't had noino. Yeah. Yeah, I ain't had none of them. They had a big tree. I ain't had none of them. With eyes on. With the eyes up. I ain't had none of them. You could hit me. Oh, so you could hit me in the ass with a red out.

Boy, I would clean. Boy, I would clean. I would clean. Yeah, I ain't had none of that. And I had me a members only. You know you had the members only. What you know about the member only jacket, man? I had a beige and a black one.

Yeah, I had a beige and a black one. I had a beige and a black one. Yeah, I had a beige and a black one. I had a beige and a black one, yeah, man. I had the Izar, I had the Izar sock, Izar belt. Yeah. For us, back then when I was in high school, getting fresh, you get your Tommy Hilfiger, Tommy Hilfiger outfit,

Tommy Hilfiger set, or a polo set with the Reeboks. Man, I'm talking about the old Reeboks? You talking about the old black aerobic Reeboks? Bingo! Yeah. With the two straps at the top.

Couldn't tell you nothing. Yeah. See, Tommy Hilfiger came out. I was in college. That was kind of like around the 80s, like 87, 88. Tommy Hilfiger came out. I was in college. That was kind of like around like the 80s, like 87, 88. Yeah. Tommy Hilfiger and Tommy Hilfiger

was the thing. And Tommy, them short sets with the collar, man. Boy, you get them with them all white, with them all white boys. Yeah.

See, what was that? Them jams. You remember them jams? Them jams, the matching top and the shorts? Nah.

Y'all ain't have no jams? Uh-huh. Aw, man. I don't know what that is. I'm the jam king. I'm the jam king, bro. It was a short set, but the top and the shorts matched. They were exactly.

Right. Shirt matched the short. They call them jams. Nah, I ain't never heard of that. Aw, yeah, man. Aw, yeah. I was clearing them jams on. Aw, that's crazy.

You know, you're wearing them flops a little bit. Yeah, man. That was back inams on. You know, you want to floss a little bit. Yeah, man. That was back in the day, man. Throwback. And you know what's so funny? We live in Miami, right? Yeah. And like the big boy, I'm going to say the big boys.

I don't want to say the D word. You know what I'm talking about. The big boys. Yeah. The big boys used to wear the leather pants, man. They used to wear the leather pants. I got some leather pants now. I'm going to bring them back out.

For real, with the Coogee sweater. Man, we in Miami now. Yeah, yeah. With the Coogee sweaters. Man, the big, man, the jewelry, man, the rim. Like, golly. Of course, a bad grandma. I'm in high school.

Mama, all I want to do, all I want to go with my ballets, please, is a pair of black leather shorts from Ross Sewell's. If anybody in Miami watching me, anybody in Miami right now, you know what I'm talking about. The leather shorts you're getting from Rossouls on 7th Avenue,

I'll never forget. And my grandma bought me for Christmas, one Christmas, bought me some leather pants, leather short pants that go with my black valleys. And I had my LaCouche sweater. Man, you couldn't tell me nothing that first day of school after Christmas break, huh? Man, you couldn't tell me nothing that first day of school after Christmas break, huh? Man, you couldn't tell me nothing.

Man, it was the days, man. Man, I miss, you know, when my grandfather would take my brother and I shopping. Yeah. He'd take us Easter shopping and we'd get a suit. So the way my grandfather,

I mean, the suit was $30. You know, you get a suit. Man, my granddaddy was like, man, I just spent $60. You ought to give me the shirt and the tie for free my granny don't bargain every time yeah man we

been to $30 suit come Easter me and my brother dressed to the nine go ahead Oh, that's throwback, man. That's, oh, wait. Who asked that question to the ball back memories like that, man? Hey, that was a good question. Chris Pearson.

Now he got my memory jolting about the 80s and the 90s. That's crazy. But I bet you a lot of people in this chat are going to remember them jams. They remember them jams. And them jams,

them jams with the jelly. It must be where you from, huh? Ah, man. I know Florida because y'all always had the matching top and bottom. Yeah, I mean. But they had print.

But they had print. They had like flowers on them and they had trees. They have animals. They call them and bottom. Yeah, I mean... But they had print. But they had print. They had, like, flowers on them and they had trees. They had animals. They called them jams. Yeah. You remember the jelly shoes? I know you remember the jellies.

For the women, they like see-through. Yeah, ninjas wore them, too. Where? Where you from? Where dudes had on jellies back then? Yes! Everybody wore jellies.

And you mess around and rock get caught in the heel because they had openings in the side of the heel. Yeah, rock get caught in the heel with the jellies. Man, my damn ear thing is in wind dead. Forget it. I'm going to work without them. Hey, jellies is for women, man. Man, jellies for everybody that could afford $4, $5

to get them and put them, slide their feet in them. Oh, hell, goddamn jelly. I knew exactly what you're talking about, too. Goddamn. Real, real, real say she watching. Baby, you had you some jellies? Oh, yeah, no real had some. Hey, goddamn, I'm trying to think.

What else, man? What else from back then? Back in the day, Ocho. Oh, man, he got some good memories? Back in the day, Ocho. Oh, man. He got some good memories. You probably had them Wrangler dreams. You from Florida. You had them Wrangler dreams.

No, I had 501. I had Levi's with the heavy crease, with the starch. With the starch with the yellow top. Niagara. Yeah. Yeah. That Niagara. Boy, I had the heavy starts In them thing

Don't nobody starts No jeans Like them boys From Texas though Them boys from Texas With the polo boots You remember the polo boots Yeah

For sure Oh Joe But see here The thing When you run out of See when you run out of starch You had to We use flour water

And we make our own Yeah that's what you use Flour water Flour water That was starch heard the thing when you run out of starch. See, when you run out of starch, we use flour water. Yeah, that's what you use. Flour water. That was starch. Yeah, I know you did. See, you had it good. You had it good. You had to make do. Yeah, I remember that thing. Oh, yeah. Every night from the time I was about in the

eighth grade, because my grandma taught me how to iron my clothes and stuff. Because, you know, she's like, baby, the grant ain't going to be ironing your clothes no more. I'm like, okay. I'll wash it, she'll say, you know, fold it like this and put it up there. I put it on the ironing board, ironing myself.

From the time I was about the eighth grade all the way until I was about, I probably stopped creasing my jeans probably about 96. I wore creasing my jeans until about 96. I wore creasing my jeans until about 96. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I like. Yeah, from the time I was about 12

to the time I was about 28. I got about a 16-year run out of creasing. Mm. I'm talking about sharp, too cutchey. Yeah. Yeah, Ocho,

I was so clean one night, a fly landed on me, I cut his throat. I said, how dare you mess with my outfit? Off with his head, Ocho. Man, boy, you clean now.

Yeah, man. Oh, that's dope, man. Damn, he jogged some good memories. Brian West asked, hey, Uncle Ocho, I'm standing up past my bedtime for work to ask this. Can y'all do a raffle giveaway for the subscribers that can't watch live? But I do listen faithfully to the audio at work first thing

in the morning. Can we do something for the How do we do something for the Okay. Brian, you know what? We're going to work something out. We're going to work something out for our audio listeners. Because like you

said, you do have to work. We want you to continue to work, out for our audio listeners Because like you said You do have to work And we want you to continue to work But we want you to continue to faithfully Listen to us so we're going to come up with a way To reward the people that Can't stay up and watch the live But do get an opportunity Because we want everybody to have an opportunity

To benefit from the success Wait Live You talk about you stay up late What time is it? It's early ain't it? have an opportunity to benefit from success. Wait. Live. You talk about you stay up late. What time is it? It's early, ain't it? It's 1030. It's 1030.

Yeah. 10, 10. Oh, it's 130. Oh, man. It's 130 here, East Coast. For real? Yeah, I'm looking at my watch. I said, damn, it's early here. I said, we got a couple more hours. No, we don't. Hey, well, how long we been on?

How long we been on? Hour and a half? You lying. How long we been on? Ash just lived up here smiling. 2.20. We been on here for two hours yes

and we've been out here for two hours for real yes god damn guys we want to thank you make sure you click that like button make sure you hit that subscribe button make sure you hit that subscribe button guys we sure you hit that subscribe button, guys.

We want to thank you. You got us to 394 subs. We're 5,000 to 6,000 away. How many subscribers are we away now? Five? Damn. We've been on here two hours. We're about to hit 397.

So we're about to be 3,000 away from 400. Guys, you've been amazing. Unbelievable. Please make sure you click that like button make sure you hit that subscribe button we've also pinned the shade by laporte and leak at the top the holidays are right around the corner so make sure you go grab your bottle for your loved one or yourself and you won't be disappointed you will not be disappointed at all so congratulations to all our winners. The Packers, the 49ers, the Dolphins, the Texans, all the teams

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Let's sing Silent Night. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You ready? No, I ain't ready yet. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You ready? No, I ain't ready yet. Hold on, hold on. Okay. Hey, just to get y'all in the spirit. Make sure y'all follow me on Twitter and Instagrams. Hold on, hold on.

Hold on. Yeah, I'm ready. Hold on, hold on. You geared up, get ready to go? Yeah, yeah, hold on. Let me drink some of this Red Bull. Ah. Boom. Okay, I'm ready. Let me know you're ready. I'm going to stay with them Marines so I sound good.

Oh, you know, I told the people me and you are going to do Christmas caroling. Christmas carol? Yeah, we're doing Christmas caroling. You ready? Yeah, you want me to start it off or Christmas carol? Yeah, we're doing Christmas caroling. Good. You ready? Yeah, you want me to start it off or you got it? You can start it off. Silent night Silent night Holy night

Holy night All is calm All is calm All is bright Round yon virgin Mother and child Yeah, bring us home now. Holy infant so tender and mild. Sleep in heavenly peace.

Yeah, don't hit that note no more, man. Don't do it. Sleep in heavenly peace. Yeah. Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite TV ump, Shannon Sharpe. He's your favorite number 85, Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. Thank you. We'll see you tomorrow night. I love y'all.

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