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Ocho, those games, this game tonight, both games were exciting.
But the 49ers, the 49ers beat the Lions and to advance to the eighth Super Bowl, 34-31.
The 49ers erased a 17-point deficit and scored 27 unanswered points in the second half. The 49ers,
this will be a rematch of Super Bowl
in Miami.
Super Bowl 2020
rematch.
The 49ers face the Chiefs.
The 49ers are still looking for their
first Lombardi. Damn.
Basically, they're saying the same
boat with the Cowboys.
Yeah.
Ocho, what did you take away from this game?
The 49ers come back and win this game, as I said, 34-31.
Listen, you play video games, don't you?
No.
So you never played Madden, right?
So I'm thinking in a game of Madden, if you down by 17,
if you down by 17 in a game of Madden, you might as well pass the sticks.
You might as well pass the sticks.
So the fact that the 49ers played the worst half of football that they could play in their life, and I think half the world will probably agree, okay, this game is over.
I saw a lot of tweets saying this game is over.
There's no need to watch anymore.
At this point, there's no way a team is able to come back from a 17-point deficit.
I don't know what the hell
Kyle Shanahan told them boys
at halftime. I don't know what they ate. I don't know
what they drank. But to see
the Lions come out and dominate the way they
did at the beginning of the game in the first
half, I thought the game was obviously over.
Why? But the second half,
we said why? Yeah. After you saw
Brady come back 28-3, why would you think the game said why yeah after you saw brady come back 28 to 3 why would
you think the game was over great wait after we saw who you said the greatest quarterback of all
time wait wait wait after you saw the greatest quarterback of all time come back didn't you
say hello didn't you see minnesota come back from 33 points down last year they were down 33 we've
seen teams come back for more than 17 so you play play in the game of football, why would you think the game
was over with a second half to go? Because
the magnitude, the magnitude
of the game, the importance of the game.
You talk about a regular season game.
We talk about the NFC
Championship. So I'm thinking
you make all the smart, all the smart
decisions, all the right decisions. You didn't
turn the ball over
yet.
And I'm thinking like, yeah't turn the ball over yet. You know?
And I'm thinking like,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't have to keep going yet.
Yeah, okay.
Yet.
And I'm like, oh man, this is over.
But what did I do?
I kept watching.
I kept watching
because I got to do the show tonight.
I got to be able to talk about it
and see what happens.
Lo and behold, 49ers get the ball,
go all the way down,
kick a field goal,
goddamn turnover at the, goddamn turnover.
At the wrong goddamn time.
You paid double.
Come on, man.
Then they get the ball back
and then off the turnover,
they get points.
Unk, we got a ball game, baby.
Yes.
I done sat up, I done sat up,
I done sat up in my chair.
I'm in here screaming,
real mad, she pissed off.
I done woke her up,
I done sleep. I said, girl, you got to get up, you got to watch this, off. I done woke her up. I done sleep.
I said, girl, you got to get up.
You got to watch this, honey.
You got to get up and you got to watch this.
That was like being in a movie.
That was like being in a movie and it's right in the middle and it's starting to get good.
Like you're watching The Sopranos or something.
Oh, it got good.
The four downs, what are we doing?
Why are we not taking the points?
Unc, please explain to me.
I'm not a coach, but even if I'm in the
position of a coach, I'm taking the points.
Four down. Why are we going for it?
What are we doing?
In a situation like this, you have to understand
like this.
In the playoffs, you pay double for
turnovers. The question is, and I
tweeted this earlier today, in a game
of the playoffs, and as the game
goes, the momentum doesn't swing
nearly as much. How much separation
can you put between you and the team when you have
the momentum? Because it's going to swing
back. Right. I tweeted that as well.
I tweeted that as well. And when it swings back,
how much distance have you
placed between you and the team
that now all of a sudden have the distance?
That needed to be a 27
to 7 or a 30
to 7 ball game to give themselves
some cushion. Now
they get a field goal.
Now you fumble the ball. Now
it's what was a 17 point
game. All of a sudden is a
7 point game and we're only
8 minutes until the third quarter
so now we got a whole we still got half a quarter an entire fourth quarter left now all of a sudden
and you're on the road yeah you had the crowd out of it now all of a sudden you've allowed them to
come back in it now what's going on in your players mind damn we let this one slip away
because they were dominating.
They were running the ball.
Montgomery did a great job of running.
Gills was running the ball.
J-Mo.
Yeah.
That first half
on one series.
This is,
let me tell you another reason
why I thought the game was over.
There was one series.
I'm not sure exactly what series
it was in the first half.
The goddamn Lions had third and 12.
Do you know? They motioned
to the right.
No, that's the one with Jameer Gibbs.
It was a third and 12 on the same drive earlier.
Yeah.
Man, they ran the ball on third and 12 and he got the first?
Yep. I swear to God
if it wasn't goddamn two or three plays later, it was
third and goddamn,
was it 18 or 15?
Something like that. 14 to hit Armand St.
Brown across the middle.
And on the goddamn dig, right?
I say, you got to be kidding me.
This is their day.
You know what?
You know, it's about,
it's going to be,
you might want to close the courage, boy.
I think this one is over.
It's just the momentum of the game,
the way it was going,
I thought it was over
to the point I even tweeted it out.
I even tweeted it out.
At what point will the pendulum shift in favor of the 49ers?
Because right now, all the momentum is on the 49ers side, not saying the second half.
On the Lions side.
On the Lions side.
I had no idea it would shift this much to that magnitude.
The turnovers killed them.
If they don't turn the ball over and they get points,
I don't think they win.
Well, here's the thing.
Even if they don't turn it over, you take time off the clock.
But those drop passes.
Reynolds had a fourth down.
Now you stay on the field.
He had two.
Reynolds had two and Paul was on.
Yes, one on third down, one on fourth down.
Now, the one on fourth down wasn't a difficult,
it was a difficult catch because he's going one way.
And then got to come across your body.
But I don't understand why guys catch it,
you're coming back, catch it like this.
Why are you trying to catch it like that?
Right.
Because if it hit here, Ocho,
it's going to pop up just like it did.
It hit his wrist.
Catch it like this.
I mean, if you was running back,
let's just say Ochoa and the ball
was perfect and the ball was out here
like that you wouldn't try to catch it like
this or like this you would just
pluck it
you know it's funny that's when I think about you
talk about it I always talk about natural
pass catchers yes people that are natural
pass catchers with their hands yes
sometimes they'll go like this and if you're a natural
pass catcher you got soft hands we can go like this I And if you're a natural pass catcher, you got soft hands
where you can go like this.
I think about a Chris Carter.
I think about a Larry Fitzgerald
that are natural catchers of the ball
that can catch it from either angle,
either way,
if the palm's up or palm's down,
regardless of where the ball is thrown.
But I don't think
he's a natural pass catcher.
That's why he made it
that much more difficult.
Yeah, he did.
Ocho, I said,
when I was evaluating Brock Purdy,
I said, Ocho, I want to see him in a game
where every throw matters.
Every possession matters.
Every throw in this game matters
because Detroit got the ball
and went right down the field and scored.
Scored.
And they went back down the field and scored again.
So now you're in a situation
every throw matters.
Every possession matters. Now he
got some help. Remember on third
down, he's running to his left
and he throws back over the middle and Jennings
one-hands it on third down.
Keep it alive. And you see
A.G. Aaron Glenn to D.C.
from like, damn, we had him.
And then he has an interception.
He throws another.
On the same drive as the interception,
it hits the defender's helmet.
IU catches it.
Down at the four or five-yard line,
and they get a touchdown of that.
Now we got a tie ball game, Ocho.
And that's how close it came.
Yeah.
And sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
And it's so funny we always talk about
it being a game of inches
and that is the game of inches
that catch on that four down
Jennings with the one hand
that's the interception
you do that drill all the time
as a DB
I don't know if it's the lights
I don't know if because you play DB
you're not used to catching the ball.
If he could catch, he'd be a running back or a wide receiver.
That's what DBs are.
Most DBs, if you think about it, and we all, wide receivers,
most of us play quarterback or play other positions in high school.
Right.
But normally DBs are running backs and wide receivers that couldn't catch.
Right.
And so they move to that side of the ball.
You're better at knocking it down.
Now, there are some guys that are just gifted.
Deion had hands.
Rod Wilson, Ed Reed, those guys have had hands.
Right.
But for the most part, DBs knock it down.
They get up and do this.
Yeah.
Where the really good DBs pick it.
Yeah, but that's a very important play.
That changes.
Well, even if he knocks it down, Ocho, it's
no harm, no foul. It's the mere fact
that you popped it up in there and he got the ball at the
five. That was the problem.
It wasn't the problem that he missed it.
If he just misses it, Ocho, if he
just misplays it and the ball, like, he
moves it up in the light and the ball hits the dirt,
no harm, no foul.
It's the fact the ball hit him in his head
and popped up and now you found him.
That was the problem.
I mean,
that's why I said
it should have been
an interception.
It was an easy interception
because he,
listen,
his hands closed
and the ball,
he was nowhere near the ball.
The ball went straight down
to the shoulder pad.
It hit him in his head.
It hit him in his helmet.
Man.
Oh, Joe,
did you actually think that guy was going to catch that ball?
He's a DB.
Exactly.
You didn't think he was going to catch it.
He's a DB.
But in a game with that much importance and implications riding on it,
going to a Super Bowl, that's a catch you got to make.
That's a catch you got to make, man.
We saw the same play happen to the 49ers a couple of years ago.
I think it was Tarrant.
I think that's how you say his name.
Matthew Stafford hit him in his chest.
He dropped it.
They go down and get a touchdown.
They win the game.
Yeah.
You have to understand, if you said the guy is normally not good at catching the ball,
what makes you think in that moment he's going to catch it?
You just said the lights are bright.
Think about what you just said. Repeat what you just catch it? Think about what you just said.
Repeat what you just said.
Repeat what you just said.
Bright lights with a chance to go to the Super Bowl.
Oh yeah, okay, okay. I see what you're saying.
I see where you're going with it.
I like where you went with that one.
I like where you went with that one.
You just said, hey, lights are
bright with a chance to go to the Super Bowl.
Normally the guys don't catch well anyway way yeah ah it just I don't know he played it perfect too long yes
yeah he played it perfect yes nothing cheap he didn't let the guy he's behind he he was behind
the receiver he played it perfect you can't play it any better than which he hadn't played
because if in a situation like that if you let him get behind you,
I'm saying, why the hell would you let him get behind you?
You're in panic mode.
You're in panic mode then.
He didn't let him get behind him.
He played it perfect.
He should have treated it like a Hail Mary.
In the Hail Mary situation, what did they tell you to do?
Knock it down.
Bat it down.
If you can't catch it, bat it down.
Damn, man.
Listen, that was a good game. That was
a good game. That was one of the most exciting
NFC Championship games I've seen
in a long time
when I thought it was going to be a runaway.
I thought it was going to be a runaway
based on what I saw in the first half. Like, ain't no way
in hell the 49ers would be able to come back from this.
And then I saw somebody tweet,
don't move too fast
because we seen Brady do it
in the biggest game of them all
in the Super Bowl.
I was like,
ain't no goddamn Tom Brady out there.
Yeah.
And the thing is,
we saw Mahomes,
remember the Houston Texans
had Mahomes down 24-0.
Right.
The greatest comeback,
Buffalo came back from Houston.
They were down 32 to nothing.
And they come back and end up winning the ball game in overtime.
So, stranger things can happen.
The Lions failed for it on two fourth downs,
the second attempt of the half,
including passing up a field goal attempt that would have tied the game at 27.
That's the one I don't get.
Tie the ball game up.
Why would you?
Because here's the thing.
You see, some things that make us great also is our biggest flaw.
Because Dan Campbell, we give him so much credit when he goes for it on
fourth down and they work out.
Excuse me.
On fourth down and they work out.
Right.
In that situation, I'm not so sure.
I'm not so sure.
I don't take the field goal.
I take the field goal in that situation.
Right, but the funny thing about it is...
Because if I take the field goal, Ocho, now it's a
tie ball game. Now if I come down
and go back the other way, and they scored.
49ers did. They scored. So now
it's a 10-point ball game instead of
a 7-point ball game. Now all
of a sudden, the Lions go down
and do what they do. Now we got a tie ball game.
I will put the pressure.
Okay, Brady,
Purdy,
ball back in your court.
What you gonna do?
Yeah, that's funny.
But what we all are,
what we all are
is we're a creature of habit.
Yes.
And a leopard or a zebra,
it doesn't change its stripes
and it doesn't change its spots
based on circumstance
or situation.
So what we saw
from Coach
is what we've seen from him
the entirety of the season.
And he coached the same way
and he made the same
play calls that he would
as if it was a regular season game
because he always bet
and put house money
on his players
to come through
on those four downs.
He just didn't get them this time.
Buffalo was down
35-3?
And they ended up winning
41-35 in overtime?? And they ended up winning 41-35 in overtime?
I think they ended up winning 41-35.
I think Buffalo was down 35-3.
And they ended up coming back 32 points.
That was the most a team had come from behind
and ended up winning the ball game.
And as a matter of fact, that wasn't Jim Kelly that orchestrated that.
Who was that?
That was Frank Reich.
Oh, okay.
Frank Reich.
He also, at one time, he had the biggest college come from behind when he was at Maryland,
and they came back from like 30-something points down
and beat the U.
So.
The U?
Yeah.
The UU?
The UU.
He beat the UU.
Back when they had them dogs.
He came from back, I think he was down 31 in that situation
and came back and beat them in that ballgame.
But as you mentioned,
Fandus Cox won't leave me, guys.
The Lions failed on two fourth downs.
They passed up a field goal that would have tied the game
and give the rookie who played outstanding all season,
he's been great in the postseason, but had too big to have touchdown run,
had big, big runs.
Yeah.
Bummed the ball.
And, you know, when you turn the ball over, you pay double.
Yeah.
They're going to make you pay double because now all of a sudden they sense
blood in the water.
They just got points, Ocho.
They just got points. They kick the ball off to you you spot the ball and guess what you run one
play and their offense is back on the field so now you've allowed them to get into a rhythm and
we're going to talk about this something that Kansas City never allowed Baltimore to do which
was getting to a rhythm so Lamar and that running game could set up the passing game.
Right.
And so right now, it was Jaquiski Tart.
Tart was his last name to drop that easy interception.
Stafford hit it right between his numbers.
I think he's number seven, too.
He hit him right between the numbers and he dropped it.
Right.
If he catches that ball, they're going to the Super Bowl.
Right.
And it didn't happen.
We have a poll up, most to blame for the Lions' loss.
22,000 votes said Dan Campbell gets 74% of the blame.
Jared Goff gets 8% of the blame.
Jameer Gibbs gets 5% of the blame.
And Reynolds gets 14% of the blame.
Reynolds?
Those drops.
Them damn two drops.
Them drops was important.
But golf was not as hard.
They were, of course.
Of course.
They get magnified because one was on fourth down,
the other was on third down.
So they're magnified for the simple point
of what down they happen on.
If he drops either one of those passes
on first to second down, ain't
nobody blinking an eye. He's saying
nothing, yeah. One was on fourth down
to keep the drive alive. The other was on
third down to keep the drive alive. Now, all
of a sudden, we potentially
you robbed us of getting points.
That's how fans are looking at it.
You robbed us of an opportunity to go down the field
and get points. Field goal
or either a touchdown.
And so Jared Goff was not nearly as accurate in the second half as he was the first half.
He was doing a number on it.
Hey, first half, he was surgical.
He was, yes.
First half, that young fellow was surgical. And I think he was surgical simply because the running game was operating so well.
Everything was working.
So it made the pass game that much easier.
And everybody was open because everything was working
because of the play action, the run, the not RPO, the goddamn.
Man.
That play action.
Because when you're running the ball like that,
that safety going to start cheating down.
Yeah, he ain't got no choice. He going to start cheating because you got to get the eighth man because we can't that's safe she gonna start cheating down yeah he ain't got no choice
he gonna start cheating because you gotta get the eighth man because we can't stop him with seven
right uh and and so give them credit that and i whoo it's it's tough for the lions because they
look at a situation oh joe it's been such a long time long time since they had you know been this far one won a playoff game
they were in the playoffs hadn't won a playoff game since 91 uh here they they win two playoff
games they're up 17 on the road in the nfc championship with an opportunity to go to the
super bowl this is this this hurts now if you get blown out, you know, you're like, oh, man, we got blown out.
The better team won.
But you're up 17.
Right.
Excuse me.
That's what the fans, that's what they see.
We're up 17.
And how?
After we're playing so well, had played so well up until that point, where did we go wrong?
How did it all go wrong?
What could we have done differently?
What should we have done differently? What should we have done differently?
You always sit, now you're left,
you know, hindsight's a magnificent science
of questioning myself.
What should I, what could I,
then what would the result have been had I done this?
I'm sure Dan Campbell is going to replay it in his mind also, Ocho.
Should I have taken the points?
Could I?
I'd be interested in somebody somebody jump in the chat and see.
He said if he had to do all over again, I would do the exact same thing.
That's who we are.
I trust those guys on the field.
Go ahead.
I mean, that's what it's about.
That's what it's about.
It's about believing in your players, making those calls you made during the regular season,
and believing in them to make those plays at the right time, even in nfc championship game it didn't work out in their favor but when
i look at it even as lions fans and dan campbells and players that are part of the lions organization
now you've gotten a taste of it right now you know what it's like now you know now you know
what it takes to get to the postseason and now you know what things you need to do to fix to get to the postseason. And now you know what things you need to do to fix to get further.
As hard as it is to even get there.
Yeah.
It's hard to get there.
Ain't no guarantee you're coming back, Coach.
Yeah, you're right with that.
Ain't no guarantee.
We saw Philly.
Remember Philly went to the Super Bowl?
Right.
And we're going to, like I said, we're going to talk about this.
And for Mahomes to be a six-year starter, this is his fourth trip.
This is his fourth trip in five years.
So it ain't no guarantee.
You cherish it.
You relish it because you don't know if and when you'll ever get back
because there's no guarantee.
And sometimes fans make the mistake.
Oh, we got there.
Hey, we're going to bring the team back.
Hey, a lucky break here, an injury there, and it all falls apart.
Change everything.
So it's tough for the Lions.
I feel bad for them.
I really do, Ocho, because seemingly this has been their best opportunity
in a very long time.
Yeah.
A very, very long time.
Their offense is really, really good.
Their defense is tough.
They fly around.
They make plays.
They don't have the most outstanding back end.
Their front seven is really good.
They can pressure you.
They do a great job of stopping the run for the most part.
But they do give up some big plays on the back end.
You can have your way with them.
Yeah.
But, man, Ocho up 17 on the road in a situation like this.
You know Detroit was going – first of all, Michigan was going crazy
because they just coming off winning the national championship in football.
Championship.
And so now Detroit, it just meant – Ocho, you know how things just start to line up.
And you say, oh, man, it's an omen.
We just won the championship in football.
In college football, we hadn't done that since 97.
And then we had to share
that now here's the lions we haven't won a playoff game since 91 we won two playoff games we're in
the nfc championship game and we up midway through the third quarter yeah and it all falls apart
they they had to be in heaven i know they were i could i could imagine that feeling you know
where everything everything everything seemed to be going right in the city of Detroit. The season was phenomenal. Obviously, like you
said, Michigan winning. And I think it's a good thing. Even though they didn't get to the promised
land, even though they're not going to Vegas to play for the Lombardi, the season that they did
have, it's a lot to be proud about. Even with the decision making
in today's game, it's still a lot to be proud
about and a lot to build on.
And I think they'll be fine. I think
they'll be back, especially in that
NFC...
What's that? Not NFC South.
NFC North.
NFC South is Tampa. NFC North.
What about Green Bay? They'll be back.
What about Green Bay? Green Bay looks good.
They're in that division.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What happened when they played Green Bay this year?
It's up for grabs between those two.
When you get this close, Ocho, it's like window shopping.
You look in there and you can see the Lombardi.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, hey.
Hey, hey, hey.
You see that?
Hey, hey. Hey, Gibbs. Hey, come over here, man. on st bradley hey hey really come on hey james come over here man check this out man look at there
it's right there that thing's right there funny hey hey you could reach out and touch it oh so
you know you go to the county you know when you go to the uh you go to a pastry shop and you get
close to you you ain't gonna you to put your face on the glass.
Yeah.
Which one is that right there?
What's that flavor?
What's that one called?
What is that?
Right.
Hey, what donut is that?
You know, I remember when I was a kid and my aunt would tell us to Dunkin' Donuts.
First time I went to Dunkin' Donuts.
And I saw all those, because normally, Ocho, you know, you go country boy like myself.
You get two donuts, either glazed or chocolate glaze that's
all you got you have all the you ain't have no no bacon on top and no chocolate chip and no
stuffed field and no bear claws and all this other stuff you just so i go to dunkin donut
and they got my body donut different donuts right right oh i gotta get closer oh joe let me get
about i gotta get closer hold Ocho. I got to...
Hold on, hold on.
I got something for you.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I got something better than Dunkin', baby.
That's how I was, man.
Because I hadn't seen anything like that.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
I had some hot...
Hot light was on.
Hey, they're going to have to come with a check.
Oh, my bad.
My bad, my bad.
I mean, we were talking about donuts.
I got excited.
I got excited.
Hey, you know I'm fat.
Yeah, we're good.
But I'm saying that's the thing is that when you get to the AFC or the NFC championship game, you're one step away.
You're window shopping.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you missed it.
And you have the opportunity.
And I've been, I mean, in 91, we got to the AFC championship game, lost to Buffalo 10-7, and it was 92, 93, 94.
We got to the playoffs in 93, got to the playoffs again in 96,
and it wasn't until 97, 98 that we were able to get over the hump
as the Broncos.
But you don't take those things for granted because you don't know.
You don't.
You just don't.
And even though we had John coming back, and John was still in his prime,
that was John, I think, that was probably John 9th year, 10th year,
maybe 11th year in the league, so he was still fairly young.
But, man, you just don't know.
You just don't know if and when the opportunity will present itself,
when it will knock, and then you seize the moment.
Moment, right.
But give the 49ers a lot of credit because they didn't panic.
I saw one time Kyle had the board.
Hold on.
Kyle had the board, and I could see Steve.
Steve, Will, what are we doing?
You know, he's like, what are we doing?
I mean, he's like, we got to get out some of this man coverage.
I mean, they're killing us with the crosses.
He's like, what are we doing?
Because you've got to
stop something, Ocho.
You can't let him run
and throw the ball down.
You got to pick
your poison.
Yes.
We got to stop.
Hey,
and that's the thing.
If you look at,
talk to the most great
defensive coordinators,
they say we're going to
shut the run off.
Right.
Because now,
if we shut the run off,
now the play action,
we don't nearly have to
bite as hard to get somebody down there because we know our front seven is going to if we shut the runoff now the play action we don't nearly have to bite
as hard to get somebody down there because we know our front seven gonna take care of the run
if you look at coach saban if you look at coach belichick if you look at the great defensive
minded coaches they say shut off the run and then we'll get to your quarterback but if you let them
run the ball now your lineman gotta stay in there a little longer they just can't zoom up the ball
and try to go chase down the quarterback
because now I might hit a quick play up in there
and now the running back is up on your secondary.
Right, right, right.
But I think we should give the 49ers a lot of credit,
and I think we should give Brock Purdy a lot of credit.
But you see Brock, when nothing was open, he went to one,
he went to two, went to three, and took off like this.
Yeah, that's what you got like, where'd that come from?
I ain't seen,
I ain't seen Purdy run like that.
Oh, Joe.
And he was running
with purpose, man.
We just talking about.
He wasn't just running,
he was running with purpose.
With AFC,
with the NFC Championship game,
we're one game away.
We're a win away
from going to Vegas
and the Super Bowl.
So now,
you do things that you wouldn't normally do.
Normally do, yeah.
And it's second nature.
You just know this is what's required of me, and I go do it.
But the last two weeks, Brock Purdy has been everything that I wanted to see from him
because he was down basically the entire game in Green Bay and for the
lion's share of the game here tonight.
Lion, lion. For this game
tonight. And when he needed to rise
to the occasion, he made throws.
Yeah, he got a break. Yeah,
the one-handed catch by Jennings.
Yes. Yes, the ball bounces off the
Detroit Lions players, defensive player
face mask, and Ayuk makes a
great play. Yes, but he
made some throws. The throws to
Debo, the throws to
Kittle.
Yes, C-Mac all of a sudden
started running the ball. All of a sudden, he started
getting a crease in those three and four
yards. All of a sudden, started getting, becoming
8-9, and next thing you know, he popped
one in 15-20.
The 49ers will be commended
because it could
have went the other way because you're at home.
And I think one thing is
that the crowd stayed in it. The crowd stayed
because normally you get down on the road by
17, Ojo. Boy, that's a tough uphill
climb. That's a tough one.
Do you know how many other teams
that would have been in this situation
that don't have the offense that the 49ers do?
And if they were down by 17 that early in the game,
there was no coming back?
Yeah.
There were only so many teams in the NFL that had the makeup and the DNA
to come back from a 17-point deficit.
Everybody ain't built like that.
No, no, no, absolutely not.
Everybody ain't built like that.
No, no, no.
17?
You got to have it.
What about the NFL, man?
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You have to have weapons,
and you look at what they got. They've've got kiddo who's a multi-many
time all pro debo's been an all pro mccaffrey's been an all pro they got skilled position players
and iu played this year like a number one receiver i don't know if they're going to be
able to bring him back because he's going to command a lot of money on the open market
yeah because he's shown that I'm a number one.
And somebody should pay him
like that. He can run the
tree. He's tremendous after the catch.
And all things you know about 49ers.
If you get a 49er, a skilled position
player, that SOB can block.
You watch them guys.
You remember Jenny's last week? He took the guy
from Green Bay to the water cooler.
He was doing it today too. He was getting on people's nerves with the Lions now. IU, what do they do? He took the guy from Green Bay to the water cooler. He was doing it today, too.
He was getting on people's nerves with the Lions, man.
IU, what did they do?
Blocked down the field.
We know Deebo's a blocker.
Christian McCaffrey on the blitz.
Use check.
You saw that pickup on that third down?
You saw that pickup that McCaffrey?
Yes!
He little as hell to be sitting there like that.
Hey, you got to.
If you're going to play running back in the West Coast system
and he knows on a seven-step drop
you can't cut because the guy get up off the ground
and get to your quarterback. You got to
throw him in his chest. You got to hit him in his mouth.
And if he runs over you, hey, he
ran over you. You got to live with it.
Throw your shot.
Hey, I'm aiming. I see.
I'm going to pick. Hey, I'm going to close the
distance because what you got to put.
Look, I block from the backfield, so I know a little something about this, Ocho.
Yeah.
The one thing you got to do, especially in Dan Reeves' system, I've got to close the distance.
I'm not going to give you a two-way street.
I'm not going to have you doing all this.
I'm going to step up in the gap.
Yeah.
You got to come through me to get to Purdy.
You had to come through me to get to number seven you had to come through me to get to number 7
right
it's me and you
but Ong what happens if you meet
what happens if it's a thumper man
what you gonna do if it's a thumper
that's why I can't let him get ahead of Steve
that's why I close the distance
I immediately step up
you gotta meet him
because you have to understand now,
he's from a standstill position.
Now he's going to take off. I'm going to
meet him in the A or the B gap, or
if I'm on the edge,
I'm going to get to my tackle
because I got to close the distance and I don't want
to give him a two-way go. So I step to him.
Limit where he can go.
Make him come through me.
I'll react to anything else, but I'm going to make you come through me i'll react to anything else but i'm gonna make
you come through me yeah once i hit him i drop my hips yeah you ain't gonna grab it up in here
anytime the thing when i tell guys if he push i pull you pull i push push yeah ain't going nowhere
hey how you doing man we have a conversation oh the ball gone because you ain't going nowhere hey how you doing man we have a conversation ball gone cause you ain't going nowhere
once we get here ain't nobody
ain't nobody moving
ain't nobody going nowhere but that was a great
game congratulations Detroit
you had an unbelievable season
that's not a good consolation to hear
at this point in time because you're so close
but I think the 49ers and Brock
Purdy what you guys were able to do
Kyle Shanahan the past two weeks, remember,
when Kyle Shanahan got down by more than this many points?
Last two weeks, Brock Purdy showed us.
Brock Purdy showed us something, Ocho.
He showed us.
Yeah, he did.
He did.
Like you said, you want to see him do it when it matters most.
Yes.
And every throw counted. And hell,
every run counted.
Yeah. I ain't seen a Purdy run like that.
He ran with angle.
You could see it
in his body language.
But what couldn't they do?
If you fall behind,
what can't you do?
Turn it over.
Turn it over.
Yeah.
Because now, all of a sudden,
you put them on short fields.
Now you're damn near
almost conceding points.
Yeah.
They didn't turn the ball over.
They got into the rhythm. got no problem see the way i look at an ocho if i'm a if i'm a criticized i
got to be willing to give credit i've been critical of brock purdy i don't take nothing away because
here's the thing ocho people fans this is what you need to understand when i critique a player i'm critiquing the player
on said information i have if i get new information i should be able to offer a different critique or
analysis you would be foolish you would be absolutely asinine to have different a different
material different stats different uh uh like i said different stats party play i wanted to see
him play and and come from behind throws matter possessions matter he did that why would i still
say the same thing because oh you said no i have new information don't when you get new information
oh joe this is what happened oh man i thought, I thought such and such. Nah, man, I'm glad you told
me that. Now I see things different.
You would be foolish if
you thought something, Rel tells
you something different, and you
still stick with that because that was your
original premise. Right.
And that's what fans want you to do. No,
dum-dums, I have new information.
And if I have new information,
I should have a separate critique,
right? Yeah, once they put it on
film, once they put it on film
and change your mind based
on what you've seen in the past,
or during the season,
then you have to come out with a new critique
based on what you've seen.
I don't think fans never
understand that because they say, once you say
something bad and you critique in a certain way, they expect you to stay that way.
But if Brock Purdy showed you something different on film like he did today because you want to see it in a game of importance, where every throw mattered most, and then you're in a deficit.
So that makes it even worse.
Yes.
Can we put the game and the onus of the game on your shoulders when it matters the most?
And he was able to do that.
He was able to do that.
He played unbelievable today
and he absolutely,
when you needed it.
Because we talk about
the weapons that they have
offense and we're going to
get into the Ravens
in just a second.
But I want to make sure
that we give both teams,
both conferences their due.
Ocho, you heard me say all year,
I don't care how good
your defense is or how good
your offense is.
Can you get done what you need to get done
when you have to have it?
Where the 49ers needed to get going
with all those skilled position players
and what did they do? They went and got it.
We talked about the Ravens all year
and that offense. All
I know is this. They got 10 points
today. Say whatever you want
to say. Oh, Taylor Swift was in the
stand. They got 10 points.
And that defense, they led
in points. When
they needed to get off the field and get Lamar Jackson,
what happened? I tweeted.
I tweeted. I said,
if I'm Andy Reid, I'll put the ball in my
home's hands and say, son, go make a play.
You're the best player in the world.
What did he do, Ocho? He put
the ball in my home's hand and he
made a play.
It doesn't matter. You talk about we
average 40 points a game. We give
up two points a game. Okay?
When you need to get off a field on third down,
could you defensively? When you needed to stay on the field as an offense, when you need to get off a field on third down, could you defensively?
When you needed to stay on the field as an offense,
when you needed to get a touchdown, could you?
It doesn't matter.
All that other stuff doesn't matter
if I can't get done what I need to get done.
Ocho, what good is having a million dollars
if you can't get it out?
You got a million dollars in the bank
and you can't touch it.
They got it frozen.
But you ain't got no million dollars. Right.
So what good is that stat? Okay, we led the league
in scoring. You couldn't get off the field on third down.
Oh, well, our offense, look what our offense
did.
It doesn't matter.
I'm talking to somebody. I've led the league in scoring
in 96. We averaged 30 a game
and lost in the
divisional round. As good as we
are, we got Terrell. I'm an all-pro.
TD's an all-pro.
We got like eight, nine
guys going to the Pro Bowl, but when we
needed it, we couldn't get a first down.
We couldn't get the ball in the end zone, and the
defense couldn't get off the field. So all that other
stuff that we did in the regular season didn't
mean a damn thing, because at the
end of the day, can I get done what I need to get done what i absolutely gotta have it oh t.o i mean t.o ocho
canna does it matter right right i mean you mean to tell me i got ocho i got t.o i got grump i got
travis kess i got jared rice we need a third down and we can't get it. We go for it on fourth down, we can't get it.
So what the hell is that?
What's that worth to you?
Nothing.
Nothing at all.
Let's get to this game.
Guys, Ocho, we got 81,000 in the chat right now.
Let's try to get to the A.
81,000, do me a favor.
Hit that subscribe button.
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Hit that subscribe button. Hit the all y'all hadn't subscribed. Hit that subscribe button.
Hit the like button and tell your friends,
hey, man, man, Ochoa, man, they be on that thing.
They get it to us real.
They let us know what's really, really going on.
They say, Ochoa going to say, he going to get it to you wrong.
Well, Unc don't do that.
Unc don't do that.
Pause, pause.
No, no, no.
I said, Ochoa say, he going to get it to you wrong.
That's you.
I be willing wrong. That's what they call you. I ain't say that. I said, I said, Ocho say he gonna give it to you, Ro. That's you. I mean, Willie Ro.
That's what they call you.
I ain't say that.
I ain't say that.
I say that's coming.
They already know they call you Ro.
I ain't gonna make that mistake no more.
In Liberty City, that's what they say.
You know how black people, you know how we describe people.
Hey, man, you know, oh, Craig.
Man, you know, Tom Musty, Craig. Oh, man, you know Craig? Man, you know Don Musty Craig?
Oh, yeah, I know him.
Yeah, yeah.
Man, you know, do we call it Roldan?
I bet.
Ocho?
Yeah.
Nah, nah, nah.
I went to school with Roldan.
In Liberty City, when they talk about me and they have a word to describe me, well, you know Ocho?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know that cheap motherfucker.
I know him. Well, he don't spend no money. Well, you know, Ocho? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that cheap motherfucker. I know him. Well, he don't
spend no money. Yeah, they know.
That's him. Yeah, they're
on Raw Dog.
Now they're doing it at the crib. Yeah.
I mean, you know, man, you know
Kim? Man, you
know Big Booty Kim? Little ride around
the corner? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I know Big Booty Kim. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We got to describe somebody and then we
understand. We might not know the name,
but if we describe them,
Big Booty Kim or Musty Craig.
Or Musty Craig, yeah.
You recognize.
Yeah, but at home, right here in the
city, that's how they describe me.
Well, you know Ocho? Well, you talk about the cheap one.
Yeah.
It's only one.
Or wrong. Nah, I don't know about no wrong. I don about the cheap one. Yeah. It's only one. It's only one. Oh, wrong. Oh, wrong.
Nah, I don't know about no wrong.
I don't even eat sushi.
Yeah, I don't even eat sushi.
Man, you got to be a...
Man, you got to be a big win.
Turn this up a little bit.
Hey.
The Chiefs go on the road.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
What you want to say?
I'm hurting.
I'm hurting by that game too.
I see you going with it.
You can get ready to start it.
I had the Ravens winning. I'm going to start get ready to start it. I had the Ravens winning.
I'm going to start.
Before you even go,
I had the Ravens winning
and I wasn't using logic.
I was going with my heart.
I'm just going to be honest with you.
Yeah.
I'm going with my heart.
I'm thinking AFC North.
I'm thinking about
the most physical division in football.
We finna go in and hit these boys in the mouth.
I'm thinking about Lamar Jackson.
You know what?
I need Lamar to win this
because I know
I can't wait till Lamar wins
so I can boast and brag
and we can get most of the analysts
and most of the pundits off of him
so I can talk trash
about everybody
that's ever had anything to say,
oh, he should have been a running back,
oh, he should have been this,
blah, blah, blah.
And I'm thinking, you know what?
That's home team.
I'm for the root for home team.
You ride up the road. Ain't too far from
me. Ain't too far from Liberty City. You ride up the road.
I'm rooting for Zay Flowers. Even though
I'm a banger, my allegiance will always be there.
But I'm thinking about, okay,
my homes, well, damn.
Knowing what him and Andy Reid going to cook up,
they going to always get another opportunity to be back.
They going to always be in contention be back. They're going to always,
you know,
be in contention.
So, you know,
that's my fault.
I'm hurting a little bit
for Lamar,
for Zay,
but I'm going to let you
go ahead and rock on, man.
Chat,
want me to call you
Rocho Cinco.
Hey, Rel, Rel,
Rel, where you at, Rel?
Man, get these people off me, baby.
That might be Real, man.
Real might be the one that started it.
We do have 81,000 in the chat right now.
Let's see if we can get to 100.
That would be great.
We're 19,000 away from 100.
What's our record, 93?
Our record is 91.
Chat.
Let's see if we can get to
an even Hyundai.
The Ravens, the Chiefs go
on the road. Beat the Ravens
17-10.
Chiefs head to their fourth Super Bowl
in five years. Mahomes was an
efficient 30 of 39,
241, and one touchdown.
Travis Kelsey finished with
11 catches on 11 targets for 116 yards and a touchdown.
Kelsey now has eight 100 receiving yards, eight 100 receiving yard games in the playoffs.
And he eclipsed Jerry Rice, 151.
Jerry Rice had the record 151 catches in playoff history.
Travis Kelsey has
156 and counting.
If I don't know if that's not GOAT,
given what his resume is
in the regular season, given
what he's done in the postseason,
and you see, he had a case of
the drops in this season.
He made some big
time catches. That one that
Mahomes was throwing, and he he threw it and he caught it
and he had to leap forward
yes
I don't know
I don't know if
Mahomes and Andy Reid are beatable
forget what Andy Reid
calls as a play
what Mahomes is able to do
with processing information
within the timing of the offense,
and if it's not there,
being able to extend plays with his legs,
make throws,
different arm angles,
like, it's unbelievable
on what he was able to do today.
I'm in shock.
I've been watching the game of football
all my life, hon.
I've been watching it all my life.
You got a dude at your ankle.
You got another dude dripped on your waist, and you still make the pass and the throw to Kelsey for a first down.
Like, what are we doing?
So nothing was working.
Then I'm waiting on the Ravens.
I'm waiting on the Ravens.
Okay, y'all boys know how to run the ball.
Let's run the ball.
Let's run the ball to make throwing the ball a little easier. At what point
did we get away
from the game plan
on what has been working for,
I'm about to say us,
on what has been working
for y'all the entire season?
Well, that's kind of
what happened to them.
You can't sit there
and just run,
throw on first down,
throw on second down,
throw on third down.
That's not going to work
because if you don't get
them boys out
that goddamn two shell,
it's a wrap. It's going to be a long day. But you don't get them boys out that goddamn two-shell, it's a wrap.
It's going to be a long day.
But you have to give him credit. Spags
did a great job of controlled blitzing.
He heat him up. The first half,
every time they went back,
he coming.
Spags blitz, it seemed like goddamn 90%
of the time. He never allowed
Lamar to get comfortable.
The running game couldn't get going.
With a guy like Lamar,
I got to speed his
process up. I got to make him make
decisions like this.
I'm not going to let you sit back there and pat the ball.
I'm not going to let you do that.
I'm going to make you make a decision
and you got to make it pronto.
Okay, but Mr. Munkin,
where are the adjustments early in the game?
If you know Spaggs likes the blitz,
you know his percentage,
he has a high percentage of liking the blitz,
where are the adjustments for that
to counter what he's doing?
Because all you got to do is hit him big one time.
You hit Spaggs with that blitz big one time,
all that shit ceases.
It might not cease to a certain extent,
but it wouldn't be as high.
They had a high volume of blitzing on first, second, third down.
Then the penalties, I don't know.
Who was the tackle?
I don't know what tackle it was.
Maybe the left or the right tackle.
The penalties was killing them.
The penalties was killing them.
Oh, you're talking about the guard?
Yes.
Yeah.
You hold it.
I think they had, what,
three, eight penalties for 95 yards. Chiefs
had three penalties for 30 yards the whole game.
But Ocho. Three penalties for 30
yards. Ocho. But they was hitting
Mahomes in the face. They make it seem like,
well, they don't call that. They're going to call that
every time. Yeah. That one,
that one with the D-line.
Or the one that Jadavion Conley hit him up
on his chin. They're going to call the flag every
time. They're not going to let you hit the quarterback like that.
Well, also, there were some
penalties. There was a penalty on Likely
that wasn't called. That should have been a P.I.
There should have been a P.I. where
he spun out. He
settled in on the route, and he spun out
of it when Lamar might have been
scrambling something.
DB Grant had been pulling him down.
That should have been a flag.
We got to stop.
See, the problem I have with fans
is that any time Lamar doesn't play well,
they blame the OC.
Now, for the last five, four, five years,
y'all blame Greg Roman.
They got rid of Greg Roman.
Todd Munkin, you win the MVP.
Okay, let me ask you a question.
On that strip sack,
how did Lamar
fumbling the ball, how did that help the Ravens
cause?
Because Likely throws
his hand up.
Even though maybe
Likely can't see, he's
triple covered. It looks like
to me that they didn't show me the all 22,
but I'm going to say that's Tampa 2.
The safety came over for another side.
He was there because there was nobody holding him, so he just came over.
Plus, the linebacker is running with you down the hole.
So I'm going to say that's Tampa 2 because it's going to look like 3D
because the mic backer is carrying the middle of the field.
Yeah.
So the two turnovers, you have three turnovers, Zay Jones.
So what role did the turnovers play in that?
Yeah, that was tough.
That one on Zay,
the competition committee has to go in
and change that goddamn rule.
They got to change that.
Whoa, I'm talking about when you...
Kansas City recovered the ball.
Wait, you penalizing the offender team
for a touchdown?
Kansas City recovered the ball.
It didn't go out of the end zone.
Okay, yeah, you're right.
I'm tripping, I'm tripping, I'm tripping.
But I'm just saying in general.
You know what I'm talking about though, right?
Yeah, I do.
When you throw the ball and it goes out of bounds.
Like Buffalo last week.
Bingo.
Ball goes out of the end zone.
Yes, yes.
I agree.
They got to take that out.
I agree.
They got to take that out.
Okay.
Yeah, but Zay got to hold on to that.
Zay got to hold on to that.
And then Lamar on the strip sack, your process, your clock.
Thank you.
That ain't 7-on-7.
You got to have that clock in your head.
But I like what he's doing, though.
I like what he's doing because he's trying to show you that he can be a pocket passer.
He doesn't always have to just, you know what, it's not there, take off and run.
But you got to have that clock in your head.
You see who Mahomes is?
He wasn't nothing down there. What did he do, Ocho? take off and run. But you got to have that clock in your head. You see what Mahomes did? He wasn't nothing down there.
What did he do, Ocho? Take off and run.
You just said Brock Purdy. He wasn't nothing down there. He hit you. You see?
Sometimes, black
quarterbacks get caught and they let people
oh, I ain't going to use my legs.
I'm going to show you. I can process.
I can stand here. But we used to say
they're not going to let you jack the ball off
back there like you in 7-on-7. Ocho, you know in 7-on-7, the quarterback doing all this stand here. But we used to say, they're not going to let you jack the ball off it back there like you're in 7-on-7.
Oh, so you're going 7-on-7
with the quarterback
doing all this right here?
Yeah, they're not going
to let you do that.
That's the actual game.
They're going to peel your cap.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he's got to speed up.
Okay, 1,001, 1,002.
Two.
Yeah.
By the time you hit that three,
you better be ready to go.
If ain't nothing open,
you got to get up out of here.
And you better hold that guy and by the time you say
three that guy ain't doing this in the back of your head
cause that's exactly what happened
chop and these guys have gotten good
once LT came along it's not
good enough to get the quarterback get the ball
out get the ball out
LT DT you go
look at linebackers they get an open shot
like that oh they chopping
they chopping Ain't nobody
oh, I'm going to throw the quarterback down.
You got that ball like this,
they're chopping that hand.
But Lamar didn't play
well. It's okay.
He's going to be the MVP.
He earned that award,
but he didn't play well. And I've
said this before.
Patrick Mahomes
is the best player in football
and it's not close.
Joe Burrow, Josh
Allen, and Lamar Jackson,
if we say those are the three best quarterbacks
next to Mahomes, Mahomes is in a
class by himself. You ask
every general manager, if they're
honest, they would take Patrick Mahomes over their quarterback.
Baltimore would take Patrick Mahomes over Lamar.
Buffalo would take Patrick Mahomes over Josh Allen.
Cincinnati, the Chargers would take Patrick Mahomes.
It's not close, Ocho.
It's not even close.
Because you know why?
He went to your building and beat you. He went to Josh
Allen and beat him. He beat
Joe Burrow. They're not close
to this man, Ocho. What does he have
to do? Four Super Bowls in
five years. He's been to many
Super Bowls and Josh Allen has been in the league.
I can't even argue the fact.
I can't even argue the fact because
of his resume and what he's done
in such a short amount of time. That's my point. The fact, the fact, I don't think people in the chat, I can't even argue the fact because of his resume and what he's done in such a short amount of time.
The fact, the fact,
I don't think people in the chat, I don't think you
understand how crazy this is. This is
the NFL. This ain't a game of Madden.
This ain't 707. This ain't
high school football. The man has been in
the year six years, been in the league six
years. He going to his fourth Super Bowl.
Yeah. Fourth in five years.
Fourth Super Bowl in five years. I played 11, 12 years. his fourth Super Bowl. Yeah. Fourth in five years. Fourth Super Bowl in five
years. I played
11, 12 years. I never sniff
a Super Bowl.
Think about it, Ochoa. I never sniff.
And people will say, oh, well, you play with the Patriots.
Man, I ain't do shit with them motherfuckers, so that
shit don't count.
I'm talking about, well, actually putting the
work, you know, going through training camp and
went through the ringer for 16 weeks and actually made it, you know, and done something to get there.
I never, ever thought it's crazy.
I didn't see this.
You ever watch him home play?
Is it me or does he just make it look so easy like nobody else is trying?
I saw him.
He didn't make it look so easy.
I'm like, man, what is you doing?
Oh, Joe, I saw him in 2017.
He started one game.
Yeah.
When they had everything sewn up
and they rested the starters.
And he came in.
And it was cold.
It was probably 10, 20 degrees in Denver.
Yeah.
I say, he the real.
I say, Alex Smith ain't taking another snap. I say, after the playoffs, Alex Smith would never take. Hey. I say he the real, I say Alex Smith ain't taking another slap.
I say after the playoffs,
Alex Smith would never take,
hey, I say Alex Smith would never take
another slap in Kansas City.
Yeah, it was a wrap after that.
You could see in that game,
he wasn't supposed to be that good.
But there's a reason why Andy zoomed up.
That early.
No, no.
There's a reason why Andy zoomed up,
gave up two first rounders in order to get this kid, because he saw with this kid arm with his improvisational skill, like you said, can change arm slots, can run if necessary.
He's a very reluctant runner, but he'll take off.
I want to say that he had that tongue tongue out he had that tongue to the side
and he started looking around
he running like he got to take a dump
you know he got that flap jacket on
he got that old man run
I'm like man he going straight
to the locker room he got to go drop one off
but hey he picking them up
and putting them down
but when the money is on the table.
Every time. Bet your house.
Bet your house
every time. And if it wasn't, think about it.
If it wasn't for Brady,
Brady beat him in an AFC championship
game his first year starting. Brady
beat him in the Super Bowl.
Burrow got him
and Brady got him.
But just think, if it wasn't for Brady,
how many, we might be already proclaiming him to go
with four or five Super Bowl wins
in his first six years of starting.
That's crazy.
People don't, like I said, Ocho, they don't realize it.
Because I understand when you have your quarterback
and Cincinnati have Burrow
and when you have a really good one. But if you think your guy and Cincinnati have Burrow and when you have really good ones.
But if you think your guy is really, really good,
this guy is what we call a multiplier.
Yeah.
He's 2X, 3X better than what you think.
So whatever you think of your quarterback,
and I'm talking about the top seven, eight quarterbacks,
whatever you think about your quarterback,
he's a 2X, 3X better.
You know what? He is a a 2x 3x better you know what he is a 2x 3x better but i and i i don't i don't want to bring up joe burrow i don't want to bring
up the bangles because that's not what we're talking about right now but i also like to talk
about what joe has been able to do and changing the bangles organization in such a short amount
of time changing the culture that's to attest to his greatness.
Yes.
Because it's been a long time.
Wait, you just-
He'd have been to a second football if it wasn't for Mahomes.
He'd have been to two.
He'd have been to two.
Two already.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's an attestment.
Obviously, he doesn't have the resume that Mahomes has.
But what he's been able to do in such a very-
Also, a very short amount of time.
And we're going to always be in contention.
We're going to always be in contention as long as
we got number nine at the helm.
But goddamn, my home greatness, man,
is unparalleled. There's really
nothing you can say. I mean, what's a negative?
What's a knock? What is it that
you can say that's bad? There's
nothing. You have to find
something to say bad about.
Since he hurt his leg, he hurt his knee on a quarterback's knee.
And I don't know how many, but they're very reluctant,
since he hurt that knee on a quarterback's knee,
to let him do quarterback's knee.
Because if it's third and a foot,
you turn around and hand the ball to your running back that's six yards deep,
he's got to get seven yards.
Yards, just to get one.
You're right there just by
barrel of head, but they're very reluctant
kind of like Peyton Manning. Once
he had that neck injury, Peyton Manning never did a quarterback
sneak again. Yeah, it was a wrap after that.
So they're very reluctant
to do the quarterback sneak,
but Ocho, I didn't see this.
You and I, we came on here. You and I have been at this thing
for 20 plus weeks now. I said, Ocho, this is the see this. You and I, we came on here. You and I have been at this thing for 20-plus weeks now.
I said, Ocho, this is the worst Kansas City offense that I've seen.
During the season?
Yes.
During the season?
Oh, it was horrible.
Yes.
It was horrible.
And I said, even with Mahomes' greatness,
I said because he's not playing to the level that I'm used to seeing him play with. And with the skill position players around him that's dropped off.
Yeah.
But think about it.
The play Kadarius Tony.
Kadarius Tony.
We're going to talk about him in a minute.
The play that MBS made today, do people realize how hard that is?
Because he catches the ball, and as soon as he catches it, it hits.
You know the ground normally pops that out.
He lodged the ball right out.
Listen, nine times out of ten, it's coming out.
He had the death grip on
that one.
That thing right there? Yeah.
He like, hey, to call
that play. And Andy says,
I knew, he said that
we thought we were going to get a
heavy dose of zero becoming.
Mm-hmm. Not a, but see, and I'm a firm believer in this, so let me know what you think. We thought we were going to get a heavy dose of zero. They're coming.
Not a, but see, and I'm a firm believer in this.
Don't you let me know what you think.
I'm not a guy.
If a guy, if they got covered zero, I'm not trying to get no first down.
I'm trying to break your neck.
I'm trying to rip your heart out.
I'm going over the top.
Why would I want to stop right on cover zero?
Yeah.
And listen, the corner know it's coming.
The corner know it's coming, so what are they going to do?
They're going to sit.
They're going to gamble.
They're playing the sticks.
They're playing the sticks every time.
You know what?
Quarterback, just retreat and throw it off your back foot.
Let him go deep.
Yes.
Let him go deep.
Lamar was 20 of 37, 272, one touchdown and an interception.
He had eight carries for 54 yards, and he lost the fumble.
Patrick Mahomes was 30 of 39, 241, one touchdown, zero picks.
And he also had how many rushing yards?
Rush yard.
Oh, P. Mahomes had six for 15.
He didn't get very far.
And Kansas City didn't run the ball.
That 15 was important, though.
Yes. That 15 was important.
Pacheco ran the ball 24 times for 66 yards.
And people say, well, why didn't
Lamar run
the ball? Well, they didn't have the ball. I think they had the ball
18 plays in the first half.
And they couldn't get a rhythm.
It was three and out
it was you know they were never on the field long enough until they fell for behind and that's the
question that everybody asks if they fall behind by two scores can Lamar just throw them back into
the ball game because if we saw Lamar the first year he won the MVP against Tennessee. He had over 500 yards, but he turned the ball over.
Over.
And I kept saying, I said, Ocho, all the teams that we're talking about
potentially have had big turnover days.
Kansas City had theirs.
The 49ers had theirs.
I said, what happens if the Ravens have a multiple turnover day in the playoffs?
I said, they're going home.
Yeah. Oh, man, you're bad. Shut up, man. playoffs. I said, they're going home. Yeah.
Oh, man, you're bad.
Shut up, man.
You don't know what you're talking about.
You a hater.
You ain't even, I don't even know why they let you talk to Ravens.
Man, I can't believe you said that.
You played for the Ravens.
So everything that go on with the Ravens, you should co-sign,
even if it's wrong.
No, no, I'm not going to do that.
Yeah.
You know, it's hard to overcome, especially in the playoffs.
It's hard to overcome when you have tournaments like that
it's very very
hard to come I just thought we just talked about
we just talked about
the damn 49ers being down 17
in the makeup of the team
in the DNA of the team offensively
they are built offensively
to come back from deficits
of that magnitude
the 49ers were earlier today the comeback from deficits of that magnitude. Who?
The 49ers were.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Earlier today.
When I look at the makeup of the Ravens,
are they really built to be able to come back from deficits like that?
Or you come from behind
and you're trying to overcome turnovers.
That's really not your forte.
That's really not what you do.
You run the ball very well.
And when you need to throw it, you throw it because the running game is very efficient and it pulls everything else up to make the make the passing game easy but the thing with the
Ravens they like to throw the ball Kansas City forced them to throw on their turns the Ravens
were never able to throw the ball on their turn and when you can run the football like they can
run it now I dictate I throw when I want to throw want to yeah their turn. And when you can run the football like they can run it, now I dictate.
I throw when I want to throw it.
But Kansas City did a great job
of forcing them to throw. Well, we know you're
going to throw it, so we're going to play accordingly.
That was the problem
that they had. And because
they didn't get the ball that much. And
I don't care what anybody says.
Defensive coordinators still believe
the way to beat the Ravens
is to force Lamar Jackson to throw the football from the pocket.
Or blitz him.
Oh, they're going to blitz him.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You got to blitz him.
Blitz him.
But you got to make him play for the pocket.
But you can't get out of your lane, though, Ocho.
Yeah, but this is the thing.
This is one of the few areas that he's improved tremendously.
Now, you let him sit back there and pat the ball
and be able to process information and throw from the pocket,
he's going to beat you every time.
Yeah.
Now, you put a little pressure on him and make him uncomfortable, you know?
Yes.
Now, that's a different ball game.
But just saying, oh, we're going to let Lamar sit in the pocket
and just beat him through the air.
Oh, he will surgically get your ass together.
But you put a little pressure
and then you play bump
and squeeze that pocket and condense it so
it can't go nowhere. Now
that's a different ballgame.
And they forced...
I mean, if you think about it, they only
ran, what, 53 plays,
37 pass attempts,
11, 13, 16.
So 53. They ran 53 plays.
So if you, that's it.
That's it?
And because you're behind, you're like, we got to throw, we got to throw.
But you weren't behind.
I mean, I could see if they were behind, like the 49ers were behind.
But seven points is nothing.
I mean, 10 points is nothing, Ocho.
And people say the Kansas City Chiefs got shut out in the second half. but seven points is nothing. I mean, 10 points is nothing, Ocho.
And people say the Kansas City Chiefs got shut out in the second half where the Ravens scored three points.
Y'all make it seem like the Ravens scored 40 points.
They scored three.
And Kansas City went to halftime with a 10-point lead.
So if you score three, I score nothing,
guess what's going to happen at the end of the game, Ocho?
I'm going to win because I already got the lead.
You need to score more than what I score.
So if I got a 17-7 lead and I score no points, you score three,
I'm still up 17-10.
Teams still believe the best way to beat him, they're going to bliss him,
but to make him throw the ball from the pocket.
They still fear Lamar Legs way more than they fears are.
That's just fact. That's fears are. That's just that's just
fact. That's not hating. That's
not anything. I'm just telling
you how defensive coordinators
when they see the Ravens, they
feel the best way to beat them
is to put the ball in Lamar's
head and make him throw it. Not
let him get to those legs. I
like it. I like it. I mean, we
we could agree disagree on that
part because I've watched him
Be surgical from the pocket
But you right
You right
But you gotta be surgical
When it matters Ocho
Yeah consider
Oh you right
You right
And goddamn Spags
Made that shit
Very very difficult today
Very very difficult
That shit
You don't
You don't understand
How bad I wanted this
Yeah
Not the Ravens
Not the Ravens.
I'm talking about just Lamar.
A home team. I just want to see a home team about to go to the Super Bowl.
I can't wait. Boy, is they going to be in the Super Bowl?
Boy, I know they're going to be going crazy
out there in Broward. That's
my mindset I'm thinking. I'm not even thinking about
I'm not even an NFL player
at this point. I just want to see
home team in the Super Bowl.
Boy, the way that game was going, I was hurting.
I say, man, when are y'all going to make adjustments?
They blitzing.
They blitzing.
They bringing people from everywhere.
Do something different.
Do something different.
Nothing change.
Oh, Joe, you got to think about it.
If Lamar Jackson is like Lamar Jackson,
they got him dead to right on that first touchdown to say flowers. The guy
come in and spins him around. He got him dead
to right. He got him dead to right,
Ocho. You can't draw. Ocho,
you got to look. He
smoked the layup. It's like we run the
perfect backdoor pick, Ocho,
and then you got, oh, we got it.
LeBron bounce pass it, and you
smoked the layup. Spags had
the perfect play call.
Backer loops.
Got it.
Get up on the way.
You got a linebacker trying to cover Zay Flowers down the field,
which is a total no-no, a mismatch.
But it is what it is.
Lamar throws a perfect pass.
It's a touchdown.
But we're not talking about Lamar Jackson in the regular season.
We know he's going to win his second MVP,
but he deserves the same criticism that we gave Aaron Rodgers,
the same criticism that we gave Peyton Manning.
You remember Peyton Manning had all those MVPs,
and they had no Super Bowls,
and kept going down in the first round, the second round.
Lamar Jackson, because the thing is, is that he's an MVP.
He should get critiqued harder, about to be a two-time.
He should get critiqued harder than other players,
unless it's Mahomes, unless it's Aaron Rodgers.
Those are the two only active players.
There are three active players that have MVP. Aaron Rodgers has four. the two only active players. There are three active players that have MVP. Aaron
Rodgers has four. Patrick Mahomes
has two. Lamar Jackson's about to have
two. For us,
yes. You think they critique
Aaron Rodgers? Hell yeah!
I ain't really, I ain't
never heard nothing about Aaron Rodgers.
Boy, he got beat by the 49ers.
He got beat by Jimmy G.
He got cooked. He, he got beat by the 49ers. He got beat by Jimmy G. He got cooked.
When he lost to Tom Brady at home and Brady had three turnovers,
he got cooked.
Okay, okay, okay.
He was 15-1.
And Eli went there and bumped him.
He got cooked.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Do you know what they did to Peyton Manning? Remember Peyton Manning?
He's on the champs and they got beat
41-0. That's early. Early career
Peyton Manning. But he was winning MVPs.
Right, right. You have to understand
if Lamar Jackson doesn't have the
MVP,
okay, all bets are off.
You about to have two MVPs
and you're 2-5 in the postseason.
Yeah.
I mean, you view it differently.
Patrick Mahomes.
Patrick Mahomes is now 14-2.
He lost to Joe Burrow.
Oh, 14-3 in the playoffs.
Now he just tied Terry Bradshaw.
Oh, that's crazy.
14-what?
He's 14-3 in the playoffs.
I was 13-5 in 14 years, though's crazy. 14 and what? He's 14 and three in the playoffs. I was 13 and five in 14 years, Ocho.
People don't understand how hard it is to win a playoff game.
That's crazy.
He makes it look easy.
And a lot of times, greatness.
No matter what, we take, like when we see LeBron
or we saw Jordan or we saw Kobe or we saw the greats,
you take it for granted.
That is hard.
When you see these baseball players
and you see a Griffey Jr.
or you see a Barry Bonds
or you see a Tane and those guys,
because they do it so often,
it's not easy.
It's not.
They make it look easy.
And people, look, I think a lot of people are going to be rooting for the 49ers
because people are tired of Taylor Swift.
That's all I saw in my timeline.
Oh, Taylor Swift.
Taylor Swift ain't on the field?
Thank you.
That's what you need to be worried about.
You need to stop shorting.
As a matter of fact, because here's the thing.
What y'all don't understand, the NFL, and i took a page out of the nfl book right into my podcast i'm a sports guy
people would naturally assume i just talked to athletes but i wanted to talk to entertainers
i want to talk to actors i wanted to talk to celebs i need a different viewing audience the nfl said all y'all
that's complaining y'all gonna watch but those little eight to 15 year old girls they not watching
they gonna come and now advertisers see that's a new base that we can get to so while y'all talking
stop showing on taylor swift the nfl roger good promised those owners, he said, I'm going to turn this into a
$25 billion annual
revenue. In order
to do that, you got to have new
sources of revenue.
Guess what?
Amazon said we want
live events. Netflix
want live events. They just signed
a deal, $5 billion with WWE.
What would they play to get a playoff
game? YouTube.
We won't live events.
What did they play? $2.2 billion
a year to take over
for DirecTV. Y'all need to understand
NFL playing chess.
Y'all playing checkers. Y'all talking about
stop playing Taylor Swift. They say
we're not going to stop playing Taylor Swift
because she's bringing a different demographic demographic yeah i say i say that we uh we did
the show a while ago i think when she first went went to uh one of the other games i was trying to
explain even then you know people you have to think you always remember the nfl's bottom line
is always is always is always money it will always be about a dollar no matter what no matter what
anybody says always and understand the attention that she brings and the people, the eyes that she brings that don't even watch the game of football.
Yes.
They don't even watch the game of football.
It's crazy what she's been able to do for the NFL from a different perspective of those that don't even watch.
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Coach O, Taylor Swift has generated
an equivalent brand value of $331.5 million
for the Chiefs and the NFL Apex Marketing Group,
tells Front Office Sports.
That figure includes print, digital, radio, TV, highlights, social media,
going back to Taylor Swift's first game in September.
Now tell me the NFL player.
Okay, no, no, the NFL.
Tell me the other person that's going to do that.
Wait, how many, how many people
are 331 million? 331 million
dollars. And blow you.
Let me, let me, let me think. Let me think.
Who else could, who else could move the needle like
that? Wait, give me a minute. Give me a minute.
I'm thinking that. Let me think
of somebody else could move a needle, move a needle.
Um.
Ah, I got it.
No one.
Beyonce.
If, hypothetically speaking,
if she went with Jay-Z
and not Travis Kelsey,
let's say...
Yeah, Beyonce.
She can move the needle.
Not like this.
She...
Not like this.
These eyes, these eyes, Ocho.
These eight to 15-year-old eyeballs.
The same, the same.
B has the same.
That same feeling.
Yes.
Ocho, Ocho.
I love Beyonce.
Beyonce ain't moving the needle like this chick, Ocho.
What? No. You tripping. No needle like this chick, Ocho. What? No.
You tripping. No, you tripping,
Ocho. Ask the chat
who, ask the chat who... She's the
closest thing to moving the needle like
Michael Jackson that we've seen. This is it.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Reel it back in a little bit, baby. Reel it
back in a little bit. Beyonce moves
the needle just like Taylor,
if not more.
No, she doesn't.
Ask the chat, please.
Ask the chat.
Ask the chat.
We'll put it to the chat. Do a poll.
Do a poll.
Because Beyonce has those same set of eyes, young, old, middle-aged, and old, including
the eye.
But I'm just saying, hypothetically Taylor, Beyonce would move the needle
the same way Taylor's doing.
It would be Beyonce
being shown all the time.
Yes.
Not like Taylor.
Yes.
Not like Taylor, man.
Taylor Swift,
I mean, she's a different animal.
And Beyonce is phenomenal.
Beyonce is on another stratosphere.
She just not as...
I mean, those are the two.
Her visibility,
her visibility,
she's not like out there like that
the way Taylor is
out there going to games like that.
How much did they say Taylor Swift,
the revenue,
how many billions did she generate?
Chat, chat, y'all help me out, man.
Somebody got to help out now.
Put it up.
Hey, that's a good combo, right?
That's a good topic right there.
That's a good topic.
Chad, y'all help me out.
I know I'm not wrong.
I know I am.
I know I help y'all.
Because guess who they want?
I tell you what.
Put them to the test.
The NFL can have anybody Do halftime
I guarantee you Taylor Swift is first
Over Beyonce?
Over Beyonce and Jay-Z
And Rihanna combined
That's who they want
She
I ain't telling you what I heard, I'm telling you what I know
I'm telling you what I know
She turned them down
Now I ain't telling you what I know. She turned him down. Now, I ain't telling you no hearsay. I'm telling you what I know.
Stop playing, Ocho.
Uh-uh.
I don't like that.
I know you...
Ocho, I just gave you the facts.
I'm A.
Just the facts, ma'am.
Just the facts, ma'am.
You're dragging it.
I'm Joe Friday.
Just the facts, ma'am.
Hey, but you funny.
But you funny. I ain't'am. Hey, but you funny. But you funny.
I ain't buying that.
Hey, Jay.
Jay, I know you're going to see this.
Jay, text my phone real quick.
No, Ocho.
This is not about like or dislike.
I'm saying...
Oh, no, I know you.
I know you like her.
I know you.
I'm not saying that.
I ain't say that.
I ain't say that.
I know you like her.
You're speaking your facts,
but I'm just telling you.
I'm just telling you.
I feel Beyonce, if the position,
if the roles were reversed and it was somewhere else,
hypothetically speaking,
Beyonce moved the needle like that.
38% says yes.
62% says no.
I went to
see a Beyonce concert. I spent
$12,000.
$6,000 a ticket.
And this was in 2016.
Right.
Matter of fact,
you know why I'm pushing for Beyonce so hard too?
Because I used to be a background dancer.
I did some choreography for Beyonce.
I did the choreography for Lemonade.
Like I helped with that.
I was the executive producer on Lemonade.
So I've been around and understand. No, no, you laughing. I ain't playing. You never on the Lemonade. Like, I helped with that. I was the executive producer on Lemonade, so I've been around
and understand.
No, no, you laughing.
I ain't playing.
You never on the Lemonade stand,
let alone been on the Lemonade tour.
But okay, I get what you're saying.
I helped with the choreography.
What you talking about?
I'm telling you.
You seen me dance before,
so I know how she moves the needle
and how she affects people
in different demographics.
That's why I'm pulling so hard for her.
But listen, that's a great topic.
How did we even get here?
Hold on.
I'll tell you what.
What did Beyonce movie do?
What did Taylor Swift movie do?
We're about to settle this.
We're about to settle this
because the ticket sales.
We're about to settle this.
I mean, we'll make it simple.
Both of them filmed their tour.
Right.
Not only so they got concert dollars.
Right.
They went and put it in the movie theater.
What did Taylor Swift do?
Put it up.
No, no, put it up.
No, no.
I was like, I don't want to do that.
Put it up.
Put it up.
See, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all talk about, oh, this is what I like.
This is what I like.
This is not about life. Well, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all talk about, oh, this is what I like, this is what I like. This is not about life.
I love everybody.
I love everybody, but I understand and know
what Beyonce can do. I know who Taylor Swift is.
She's one of the greatest, but so is Beyonce.
And I feel that, I mean,
Beyonce will move the needle.
That's how many people went to see the movie?
Yeah.
Oh, the box office. Taylor Swift
on her movie concert in the box office did $261.6 million.
Beyonce did $44.4.
Seven times.
We might need to check the numbers.
I'm just telling you.
We actually checked them seven times.
What source did Ash use?
Huh?
What source did Ash use?
What source?
You pull it up.
You pull it up.
Wait, I can't pull it up
because I ain't paid my bill.
Hell, real.
My phone ain't working.
Boxofficemojo.com.
We going by Box Office.
Whatever the Box Office say.
I don't know.
I don't work at the box office.
I'm not an AMC.
I'm not an internet theater.
I'm not an IP.
Nah, man.
You heard my feelings right now.
And I know the chat on my side.
But again, I like both of them.
I like both of them.
I don't know any Taylor Swift songs.
I'm sure she's a phenomenal person based on, you know, what people are seeing.
People are tired of seeing her.
But I've worked with Beyonce.
I've been a backup dancer for her.
Have we seen?
Let me ask you a question.
I ask you this.
Have Beyonce ever been to an NFL game?
Yes.
Do they show her like they show Taylor Swift?
That's because she's with Travis Kelsey.
What?
Ocho, stop.
Stop.
You saying Beyonce
and Beyonce is unbelievable.
I said,
if Beyonce was dating a player,
a player of Travis Kelsey's magnitude,
then her face would be
showed the exact same way.
Yes, it would.
What are we doing?
We're talking about Beyonce.
Wait a minute.
Let me say, McLeod, we're talking about Sasha Fierce. What are we doing? What are we doing? We're talking about Beyonce. Wait a minute. Let me say, McLeod, we're talking about Sasha Fierce.
What are we doing?
What are we talking about here?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Come on, now.
You do realize when the tickets for Taylor Swift's concert was released, it broke the site.
It broke the site.
It broke the site.
How much did the concert pull up?
Because they got a total in there.
Something ain't right.
I need to know where y'all getting y'all facts at.
Man, let me call Jay-Z real quick, man.
He can't help you. Let me call Jay.Z real quick, man. He can't help you.
Let me call Jay. No, this is kind of
rude. Let me call Jay, man, because
I know what I'm talking about.
Not when it comes to that, you don't.
That's a good topic.
Not when it comes to that, Ocho.
Not when it comes to that.
That young lady's on a different...
She moves
the needle.
And I'm not saying Beyonce doesn't.
Okay.
If she's a,
Taylor Swift is Patrick Mahomes.
So whomever else you want to make Beyonce,
Taylor Swift right now is Patrick Mahomes.
So whoever Beyonce is,
she is.
But she Mahomes.
So, okay.
Then Beyonce, Joe Burrow then.
And then for the... So depending on the circumstance,
sometimes...
Sometimes...
Taylor Swift,
Taylor Swift, Aris Tour,
is the first in the history to gross over $1 billion.
Let me repeat that.
Taylor Swift's era tour is the first tour in history to gross $1 billion.
So how much did it be?
Let me repeat that because clearly you're not hearing me. Say it one more time
Taylor Swift era's tour
Is the first tour in history
To gross
One billion dollars
Wait a minute hold on
Let me hit you back with some facts real quick
Let me hit you back with some facts
Let me hit you back with some facts
Because I know
I'm going to tell you right now Hold on let me hit you with some some facts. Let me hit you back with some facts because I know, I'm going to tell you right now.
Hold on.
Let me hit you with some facts.
You ain't the only one.
Beyonce
knows
Renaissance World Tour
pulled in
$597
billion.
Bruh.
$597 million.
That's not a billion.
She's the first to do a billion.
What don't you understand?
A B is bigger than an M.
Hold on. I wouldn't finish.
Go ahead. I wouldn't finish.
Okay.
It seems to me
that the survey is right.
You were right.
Taylor Swift's era tour is the highest grossing
concert tour of all time, according to data.
So you thought I just made...
Ocho.
I was just...
Ocho, you think I just...
Hold on.
You think I'll just be coming on here just making it up?
I just wanted to make sure your facts were right, because I know people, okay?
I know people that work with Live Nation, and I just wanted to make sure what you were
telling me was up to par.
Ocho, I'm telling you.
I don't have a dog in the fight.
I like both of them.
I think both of them are outstanding performers.
I don't care who can sing better.
I don't care who has more Grammys.
I'm not talking about any of that.
I'm saying the reason why the NFL keeps showing her is because they're talking about,
I just read that this young lady can swing the election.
Swing, swing. The general election
in 2024.
Swing what? Swing who?
She.
Nah, I, we,
come on now.
I'm just telling you, Ocho. I'm just telling you.
Don't get mad at me.
Just the fact, man.
Oh, I'm not mad.
Listen, I like both of them.
I like both of them.
I told you before, I worked with Beyonce on tour.
I was a backup dancer back in the day in like 2015 when I was retired.
And I needed a little pocket change.
Taylor Swift is great in her own right.
Her music is not one that I listen to.
But she is phenomenal in all that she does because I can see it.
I can see it from the outside looking in.
I have no problem, no issue with her.
I like the topic.
You gave me and told me
some stuff I didn't even know.
I didn't even know. Now I have a better
understanding of why she moves the needle
she does and why she's always shown.
I never had a problem with it
because I understood who she is. It's Travis Kelsey. And I never had a problem with it because I understood, you know, who she
is, you know, and it's Travis Kelsey.
Ocho, when I give you
a test, I already have the answers.
Just know that. Moving
forward, if I give you a test,
I've already got the answers.
Right. But sometimes, sometimes
I'm never going to give you a test I don't have the answers
to. Right. Sometimes when my mom used to tell
me something, I'd say, boy, don't you the answers to. Right. Sometime when my mom used to tell me something,
I'd say, boy, don't you touch that stove.
You know it's hot.
You know what I'm going to go do?
I'm going to go touch it because I want to find out for myself.
So this just happened to be one of those moments where you're telling me something,
but I understand the greatness that is Beyonce.
I understand the greatness that is something that is what?
How about this here?
Yes, sir.
Taylor Swift, after one single Instagram post by Taylor Swift after one single Instagram post
by Taylor Swift, a record of more
than 30,000 people signed up
to vote through vote.org
do a national register
date. Many of them teens
who will be eligible to vote
this fall's election.
I wonder who they registered to Hmm. I wonder who
they registered
to vote.
Ocho.
I wonder who
they voted for.
Ocho.
See,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no.
I said,
they said she
could swing
the election.
They didn't say
for who
or against.
Okay,
okay,
okay.
I'm saying.
She had 30,000
registered to vote,
right?
Signed up.
Okay.
When she posted
on IG. Right, right right i got you i like it
i like it i like it hey listen she has influence she has influence and with that comes a big
responsibility yeah i like that oh joe what's up baby it's just like any celeb when you've been to
the game they put you on the jumbo trying didn't you and you ain't dating and you weren't dating
no sixes player.
You know, they stay
putting your boy on there too now.
When she goes to the game, when celebs go
to the game, when LeBron
goes to the game, what do they constantly do?
Show him. When
Jay-Z's at the game, what do they constantly do?
Show him. They show that's
Madol, yeah.
So people make it seem like when celebs come to events,
they don't show them.
Go to Madison Square Garden.
Go to the Laker game.
Go to any game and see that they don't put the celebs up.
So what's different?
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
Now, there's a difference in putting the celebs up
and them always panning to you the entire game.
Now, there's a difference.
Now, I don't have a problem with it,
but I love, you know, they pan to her throughout the entirety
of the game. Yes, and they're going to continue
to do it. Right, right, right.
Rightfully so.
I understand why. So, you know, you don't have to
explain to me. It's just that people on Twitter,
people on Twitter, oh, they hate it.
I can see the tweets, but I understand it. You got
to think long term. Think money.
Think money, you'll get the whole point.
NFL said this is a different set of eyes.
This is a new revenue stream.
Yeah.
You see all them girls going to the game?
What did they go overseas?
In London?
What did they play?
Did they play in Germany?
They played in Germany.
Did you see all them little girls that came to the game?
Yeah.
Did she go to Germany?
She didn't go to Germany. She went to New York. Right? She went to the game. Yeah. Did she go to Germany? She didn't go to Germany.
She went to New York, right?
She went to the Jets game.
And you see all the little girls screaming.
They're watching the game.
They got their mom and daddy taking them to the game.
They would have never gone to the game.
Don't know nothing about no damn football.
They know Taylor Swift like football, so they like football.
That's what they know.
Taylor Swift like football?
They don't even know who Travis Kelsey
is. They know Taylor Swift.
And if Taylor Swift
like it, mommy, we like it too.
And so guess
what?
To keep the kids happy?
Parents buy tickets.
Parents buy concert
tickets to go see her.
That's who you got to get.
The kids,
because you what?
I want to keep the kids happy.
But...
Man, that's a good topic.
I didn't see...
Oh, Joe, I did not see this coming.
I did not see this coming.
Because I...
What?
I didn't see
the Chiefs getting to the Super Bowl
given how poorly they played.
They played during the regular season.
It was bad.
It was atrocious.
It was atrocious.
Listen, you and I talked about it multiple times.
We talked about it multiple times.
Yes, I had it one and done.
And I said it constantly.
As great as Mahomes is,
there is no way he's able to overcome
the way the offense looked.
Yes, I agree.
The drops, it was ridiculous.
Yes.
And he was playing bad.
Let's not excuse him.
Because look at all the back-out interceptions that he had.
Yeah.
And he didn't throw 30 touchdowns.
I think this is the first year in his career in which he's been a fool,
that he didn't miss any game.
I mean, saw that last game.
Did he have 30 touchdown passes? I don't think he had 30 touchdown passes you know what's funny
when i think about it when they always say you know the nfl is it's not a sprint it's a marathon
yes this is exactly what they mean based on what the chiefs were able to do this year this season
because during that during that the beginning of their race oh it looked bad right
oh yeah at the end remember the raiders how did the broncos beat the brakes off them the raiders
beat the brakes off them look bad but when it mattered most what does greatness do when you
put when you put them pillsbury when you put them pillsbury croissants in the oven on 350. They rise to the occasion. Come on.
What they do? You know what they do.
They rise. They coming.
They coming.
Like you had with the Blue Diamonds.
Yeah.
Oh, Ojo.
What?
But that thing,
I put with them diamonds. You talking about, oh,
Ojo. Man, that thing be so, that thing, I put with a dime. When you talk about, oh, Ocho.
Man, that thing be so, that thing be so A.
That thing like that right there, Ocho, be hard, boy.
It take a, it take a MIT math professor to figure it out.
That thing be harder than Chinese math.
I had to get an MIT math professor to try to figure out what was going on.
He said, I can't help you, son.
I can't help you. Man. I can't help you.
Man, Ocho, I'm telling you.
Ocho, you know, you and I was just talking about Taylor Swift.
You got me stubborn, man.
Ocho.
Okay, let me get back, right.
Let me focus.
I said, as far as touring, as far as worldwide reach,
I said,
Taylor Swift might be the closest thing to Michael.
I specifically said,
she's not Michael.
I said,
but she might be the closest thing to him.
Right.
Oh,
people,
people misconstrue what you say.
No,
no,
no.
People don't listen.
People here.
It's like when you and I was talking,
we was talking about,
you asked the question, do I think Detroit could beat the 49ers?
I say, yes, I believe they can beat them because the turnovers come into play.
An injury happens.
They jump in the chat.
Well, you didn't pick them.
The question wasn't to pick them.
Ocho asked me, do I think the Lions could win?
I say, yes, on a given Sunday anything
can happen but I'm picking the
49ers
because people don't listen
let me tell you what happened Ocho
people listen
to respond don't listen
to understand therein lies
the problem because you want to
respond to what was said you didn't listen
to what was said, you didn't listen to what was asked.
Go ahead.
What were you going to say?
Man, I would listen to you.
I would hype because I'm trying to see.
I'm assuming that people in the chat,
they're trying to say that you are saying
that Taylor Swift is equivalent or better than Michael Jackson.
Yes.
But you got to listen.
But they don't want to
Listen to the way it's worded
They hear what they wanna hear
Ocho, as you get further along in this business
People will listen to everything you say
Trying to get you to slip up
That's what
Some people wake up
Hoping they can catch somebody
In this business
Slipping up to say something right that's
their claim to fame this is what it's saying that's what they're looking for just like to look
and i understand the proper roster now they got they're going to catch somebody in a situation
but there are a lot of people on social media all they're looking for is to try to catch someone up.
But I know exactly what I said.
I'm ready for that.
I'm ready for that.
I know exactly what you're saying, too.
I know exactly what you're saying.
Listen, I've never met Taylor Swift.
I at least can say I've met Beyonce on several occasions.
As a matter of fact, LeBron James had an event about a month ago.
I met her and Jay-Z.
Walked right up the hall and talked to him, had a great conversation, introduced myself to her.
But that's not the first time that I
met her. So this notion,
oh shit, it ain't about like dum-dums.
Do y'all listen to what the discussion was?
Right. Open your
ears. They don't want to.
They want to catch Shannon up.
He said this. That's what he said. No, I didn't.
It's not about Grammys.
It's not about who's the better performer.
It's not about who has the better voice.
Ocho and I was having a discussion about reach and why they keep shoring her.
But y'all want to take it somewhere else.
Because here's the thing.
It's the same way.
Because when I watch Serena play a white,
that's not enough.
That's a non-American.
Even the Americans would be rooting for the non-American because there was the
same complexion.
So what they want us to do anytime is white versus black,
whether it's right or wrong,
they want you to side with the black.
This is not about black or white.
This is about based on what I've read and based on what i've
deduced is that right now taylor swift is a bigger brand that's just based on what i've deduced
right but y'all want to make it everything is black or white if i criticize lamar oh you're
a hater you're uncle tom but it's only lamar because when i criticize justin fields i don't
get that i don't get that when i get that i don Lamar. Because when I criticize Justin Fields, I don't get that. I don't get
that when I get Dak. I don't get that when I get
Patrick Mahomes. I don't get that with any
other quarterback other than Lamar.
Lamar doesn't matter.
Oh, Zay formed the ball. Okay,
Lamar Jackson formed the ball and threw an interception.
So you're going to put all the fault on
Zay Flowers? Oh, Todd
Monken sold the game. Okay, so
now, see,
no matter what happens, if
Lamar plays good, they've never
mentioned Todd Munkin.
They've never mentioned Greg Roman. Remember
Greg Roman helped him win an MVP unanimously.
They never gave him credit.
Only blame. Now Todd Munkin,
they didn't even know who Todd Munkin
was. But now
everybody know who Todd Munkin is because But now everybody know who Todd Munkin is
because the season didn't end the way they wanted it to.
So now let's blame him.
Come on, people.
We got to do better than this.
We've got to do better.
We've got to.
It's all love, chat.
It's all love.
That's it.
It's all love.
Hold on.
I got to get something to drink, man.
This lady drunk all my damn water, huh?
But people ask what advice would I have to Zay?
Look, that's textbook taunting.
Even before they added and they put the emphasis on the taunting,
what Zay Flowers did when he caught that big catch and run was taunting.
He dropped the ball damn near in the guy's
chest and stood up over him.
Come on, guys.
Ocho,
you know what Zay
Flowers did on that big catch and run
is textbook Tani.
You can't drop the ball.
He dropped the ball damn near on
the guy and just stood up over him.
Yeah, you can't do that. I mean,
Zay gonna learn from that.
If I was on the team,
I would pull him aside and say, young fella,
we just gotta learn from those mistakes.
Yeah, that's just one. It only take one time, though.
It only take one time to make that mistake and it won't happen
again the rest of his career.
When I was in Denver,
before every playoff game, you know what I told the guys?
Don't you be the one. Don't you be the one.
Don't you be the one to get the penalty.
Don't you be the one that everybody looking around and said it was you.
Don't be that guy.
Don't be that guy.
Because no matter what happens, they're going to go back to that moment and say that was the play.
But I put my arm around him
just like OBJ did.
They finally had an unbelievable season.
You're going to be great in this league.
That he is.
That's not a death
sentence, what you did, what happened today.
No. Make that a footnote.
Let everybody else say,
hey, Zay Fowles, five-time
Pro Bowler, all let him let the last
thing that they get to oh he wants foam of the ball in the nfc championship game let that be
the footnote let the story be what zay flowers became but again you you got to understand you
the enthusiasm the fun the adrenaline rush the the making of a big play, you know,
young, young dude, you know, so you got to understand in the moment, caught in the moment,
making a play like that, mistakes happen, mistakes like that happen. It won't happen again.
A mistake is leaving your briefcase in a rental car or leaving your iPad in the back of a seat
plane. To drop the ball on somebody and stand up over them is not a mistake.
That's a decision. That's a choice.
That's one that we all do.
No, we don't.
You ain't never do that?
No. I ain't stand up over nobody.
But did I get the first down?
But I made sure I didn't get the first down
on this island.
You ain't never got no
accountability? No, never. You know what? I mean, neither. no Taunting penalty You know what I mean neither
So I'm with you with that
You know goodwill you catch a pass
You can't stand up over the guy
Now you know that
Yeah you right
I was just trying to find a little reason for my dog
To get up out of that one real quick
It's done happened now
What are you going to do about it
He ain't going to do it no more He ain't going to do it no more.
He ain't going to do it no more.
It'll only take one time.
It'll only take one time. OBJ couldn't
have done it better because he's down at
this moment. He got a turning penalty
that backed him up and
he fumbled the ball.
That was, yeah.
Actually, it was on the same drive.
It was on the same drive, Ocho. He was trying to get in that end zone. You can't fault him, though. He was trying yeah. Actually, it was on the same drive, wasn't it? It was on the same drive, Ocho.
He was trying to get in that end zone, boy.
You can't fault him, though.
He was trying to get in there.
Ocho.
He wanted that bad.
What did we just see last week?
Remember Nicole Harmon tried to get the ball in there?
What'd he do?
Yeah.
Got punched out, went out of bounds, lost the ball.
Went out of bounds and gave the ball to the LBL.
Ocho, situational football.
Understand the situation.
Understand the moment. Understand the moment.
Understand the time of the game.
Right.
And you know what's funny?
You know what hurt, though?
That's people trying to make plays, too.
Yeah.
That's fellas trying to make plays for their team,
and it's going the wrong way.
So it's like hard.
What do you want to say?
Hey, you want to fault them and tell them,
you know what?
Don't even try that hard.
Just go down. I mean, what do you say in that you know what? Don't even try that hard. Just go down.
I mean, what do you say in that moment?
You got to be smart in that situation.
Coach Belichick, didn't Coach Belichick tell y'all not to stretch the ball at the goal line?
Because it's too risky.
Yeah.
You have to, Ocho, I get it.
But okay, the enthusiasm, but what did it get you?
Right.
You're right. you're right you're right obj handled it
perfectly as the veteran guy put his arm around him his head is down he knows everybody's talking
about that play he knows everybody's talking about the tony play the unbelievable game in your first
afc championship game you go over a hundy?
You put it over a hundy. Everton.
Ballin'.
Bruh, they been looking for you
in Baltimore since
I mean, you gotta go back to
Thriller, rest your soul. They had a guy named Michael Jackson.
You gotta go way back
or you gotta go to Derek Mason
before you go get a receiver
that they had this much hype
about he has a chance to be the best
receiver in Ravens history
that's how good this kid can be
yeah he nice
I'm not gonna let this define me y'all
wouldn't find me by something else
I promise you
thousand yard season
Pro Bowl all pro and when I get
back and I will get back in this situation I believe in Lam when I get back, and I'm going to get back
in this situation.
I believe in Lamar.
I believe in this team.
I believe in this offense.
When I get back in this situation,
you'll see what I do.
Maybe they can get back
to Bengals, but I hear you.
Lamar healthy on the Bengals.
Ah, you want to put
some money on it?
Whatever you want to. You want to put some money on it? Whatever you want to.
You want to put some money?
Make a light on yourself.
Make a light on yourself.
Well, we got to tell you what.
We got $500 every time they play.
$500 what? $1,000?
$500 every time they play.
We got $500 on it.
That's a little chain.
I take all that.
At the end of the year, that's $1,000. Let me see what I can buy for $500 on it. That's a little chain, but I'll do that. I take all that. At the end of the year, that's $1,000.
Let me see what I can buy for $1,000.
So you're going to owe me $1,000.
I'm trying to think what I can get for $1,000.
Hey, what can I get?
What can I get for $1,000?
Because I'm going to have $1,000 at the end of the year from you.
I bet you won't.
That's at least...
That's 13 diamonds.
So you sitting here really thinking
the Ravens are going to beat the Bengals next year with a healthy Gerbera? That's 13 diamonds I So you sitting here really thinking the Ravens gonna beat
the Bengals next year
with a healthy Jibbera?
That's 13 diamonds
I can get Ocho.
12.
Wait, that's how much they cost?
They're $8 a pill.
$80?
$80 to $100 a pill, yeah.
Oh, hell.
Boy, listen,
I'd be walking around
with ED.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Hey, hey.
$80?
$80? You might be talking about Eric Dickerson. That's no. Hey, hey. $80? $80?
No, no.
You must be talking about Eric Dickinson.
That's the only E.D. I know.
That's the only E.D. I know.
And I don't know about no other E.D.
You talking about Eric Dickinson?
You lying to me.
No, I'm talking about that commercial that come on.
Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
Yeah.
Who paying $80 for a pill?
A guy that's trying to get a mean a pill A guy that's trying
To get a mean one
A guy that's trying
To get mama a mean one
Never that
Mama can go get it
From somewhere else
No
She ain't gonna get
Nothing stay in my house
I ain't got no problem
With her going to get
Somewhere but she ain't
Finna be laying next to me
And somebody else
Putting me up
And do it
Do it
Man you about to
Man I'll show you
About the baby
I'm on
I'm on
I'm on I'm in a chair man I'm about to... Man, I'll tell you about the baby. I'm on... I'm on...
I'm on...
I'm in a chair, man.
I'm about to start talking
like I'm at the barbershop, man.
Please.
Hey, my bad.
That's a fact.
That's what happened to me.
That's why the people here...
Listen, you know how I am
when it come to money, man.
You ain't...
Who paying $80 for a goddamn pill
just to do something
that gonna last two minutes?
That don't make no goddamn sense.
That's two minutes long, man.
Hey, ain't nothing like that excitement.
You ride the roller coaster
and when you was a kid, got on the merry-go-round,
all they did was doot, doot, doot, doot, doot,
doot, ride around. Had the thrill
of your life. Bought them two minutes.
You get the right one.
Nah, it ain't, it ain't happening.
It ain't even worth it.
That's, that's, you know what? Ain't no such thing
as no bad sex. It ain't a thing as bad,
they're bad sex. $80. Yeah, you, you remember growing up and you, you been with somebody what ain't no such thing as no bad sex is there anything is there bad sex $80
yeah
you remember growing up
and you've been with somebody
who ain't had no goddamn rhythm
they throw everything off
yes
yeah
it is bad
yeah it is bad
I'm talking about bad
like
but I just thought
that's what
that's what you say
let me leave
that's what I say
don't nobody move but me
hey
you ever
you ever seen somebody on a dance floor?
And you be like, where the hell is your rhythm?
That happens.
That happens horizontally all the time.
Well, I can't say all the time because I only be with eight people.
Hey, but if you on all fours, you can't mess up on all fours.
Yeah.
Don't nobody move.
I don't want nobody move but me.
Uh-uh. Uh-uh, Ocho.
Uh-uh.
How do we get here?
I don't know how we get. That's you.
Talking about you didn't want to pay no money.
Oh, no. We went for $500.
Oh, you're talking about the diamond. Okay, my bad.
Yeah, the diamond.
Where the price is? Look the price up right quick.
$80? Man,
I'm good.
I don't care. I don't care. They call
$500.
I'm good.
Listen, I don't even
pay my own bills
on time. You think I'm paying $80 for a pill
that's supposed to help me in the bedroom?
Yeah. It ain't happening.
Hey.
It ain't happening,
Captain. $90?
$90 per pill?
$90?
That $1,000, I get me
nine pills. Nine pills?
11. I get
11. 11 pills.
$990. Keep it safe.
You're not going to get it from me because the Bengals ain't losing to the Ravens next year
with the help that you're in.
They tell me, you want to put it in the bag? Yeah, I want you to put it
in the bag. You want me to walk out of here with it in my hand
so everybody can see what the F I got?
Yeah, put it in the bag.
What you hiding for?
Buy it with pride.
Now, they don't need to know.
People talk to me about, hey,
I saw Shannon Sharp at CVS.
He had them,
he had them,
he had some,
damn,
buying the business.
Man,
you better put them in a bag.
As a matter of fact,
put them in a bag in another bag.
As a matter of fact,
Ocho,
I buy stuff I already need.
Hey,
you know what?
Can I get some mucinex
and let me get a,
I got like three things.
So they don't even know.
Just buy extra stuff just to have. I just buy stuff I already need. I got my three things. So they don't even know. Just buy extra
stuff just to have. I just buy stuff I don't even need.
I got new snacks in there from 2020.
Listen, my grandma always said,
if you got the hat, you don't need to buy it.
If you got the hat, you don't need to buy it.
Nope. You don't need to know.
Tell me about this, Sean. Would you like it?
I'm calling my name.
What the hell wrong with you?
Shannon Shaw.
Man, don't call my name.
Your script ready for pickup.
I be looking around like, hey.
Hell nah.
But that's funny.
That's funny.
You mad? Man, you mad? People be crazy, man. Why you calling? Man, y'all know me. but that's funny that's funny you bad
man
you bad
them people be crazy
man why you calling
man y'all know me
y'all done seen me
that many times
and I done picked up
medicine I had
both hips repaired
I had you know
I had a
I get hives
so y'all know me
y'all ain't gotta
call my name
y'all y'all gotta do is
sorry
your order
your prescription is ready
that's all y'all gotta say
y'all ain't gotta call my name and. That's all you got to call my name
and they're going to tell me
how to get it.
$90, man.
Yeah.
Like who on earth
in their right mind
would pay $90 for that?
The government,
look up and see
how much the military
spent on Viagra.
The military is the biggest
spend of it.
No, the military.
The military.
They ain't got no business to be doing anything horizontal.
They supposed to be focused on war.
They ain't fighting every day.
I'm thinking about war.
I'm going to the battle.
That's why I put it in my system.
I'm putting it in my system.
I'm going to the battle.
Yep, we are.
The Pentagon spends
$84 million annually
on Viagra.
Oh, the Pentagon. What the hell they got going on?
The Pentagon.
That's for the military.
Oh, they ain't even talking about Cialis.
Cialis might be better.
It don't cause the headaches.
In Atlanta by two, three days.
I don't know. I heard, though. I was reading about it better it don't cause the headache in that lab by two three days yeah I don't know I heard though
I was reading about it
I don't know
I've been reading
I don't know
you said
yeah listen
you sound very well informed
I should read
nah you sound very well informed
you use that too
okay
they spent
two hundred and ninety four million
on
ED drugs, condoms.
Levitra.
Oh, Levitra.
Yeah, yeah.
I heard Levitra don't work that well.
That sounds like a drink.
Yeah, I heard Levitra.
They don't really work that well.
You know what?
I don't know.
I just heard that.
That's what somebody was telling me.
This dude,
I was talking to this dude,
I was talking to this dude
about three, four years ago.
His name was Shannon.
Yeah, his name was Shannon.
He said, man, man,
if I was you,
I wouldn't get that.
I was like, all right.
Yeah, but I don't know
nothing about that.
Listen, I ain't number 30.
I ain't number 30.
I'm young.
I ain't got no problem.
I'll holler at you in 30 years.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey. I'll holler at you in 30 years. Hey. Hey. Hey.
I'll holler at you.
You was,
let me ask you a question.
You was fast,
but you're still working on your speed
in the offseason,
didn't you?
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
I like that.
You did.
I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
Okay.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
That's smooth.
That's smooth.
Yeah, that's smooth.
That's smooth.
That's smooth. Yeah, that's smooth. That's smooth. That's smooth.
Yeah, but I'm sorry, baby.
I don't know that guy.
I don't know the guy, man.
They be talking about that,
the Mondamas,
that Levitra,
that Cialis.
Yeah, man.
But they say,
they say that in Viagra,
you can't eat.
You got to have an empty stomach because you know you want everything to, you know, go to that area.
Right, right, right, right.
But with that Seattle, you go out to eat, go to dinner.
Right.
Who does that thing go?
You know you're about to go home?
Right.
Yeah.
You take it early, get it in your system.
Need 30 minutes.
30, 45.
Right. Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. I see I'm not your system. You need 30 minutes. 30, 45. Right.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Okay.
I see I'm not there yet.
I'm not there.
Please take medication as directed.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not.
I'm not there yet.
I'm not there yet.
But when that time comes, I'm going to...
Yeah, me though, Joe.
I'm going to do my homework.
And, you know, it comes with side effects.
You know, if you have an erection that lasts
longer than four hours. Right.
Call, you know, call
medical. I'm gonna
call my four or five other people. That's what I'm gonna do.
I don't know about you, but I'm gonna call
you till I call the doctor. Well, the doctor
better be named Karen. It better
be named Queen. Her name better
be Susan. Her name better be
Tatiana. Her name need to be named Quina. Her name better be Susan. Her name better be Tatiana.
Her name need to be
Valerie.
That's who I thought it better be.
If I have an erection for four hours,
I got a lot of people I'm going to call.
You going to get that four hours worth
of patty, y'all?
It'll go down.
Man, you shut up, man.
That's what I'm going to do.
You feeling good today, boy?
You feeling good tonight, man?
You feeling good tonight?
Oh, Joe.
You said you wanted the Dumb Dumb Award to be a daily thing?
So we got it back.
Time for our daily Dumb Dumb segment.
What we got it back. Time for our daily Dumb Dumb segment. What we got?
L. Hunt says,
20 years in the military.
We eat them.
It's like Skittles.
Even if we don't need them.
Go hard or go home.
See what I mean?
He in the military
for 20 years.
Damn.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, Ocho.
You don't know?
Boy, the more you know,
that's my life.
See, I'm learning about stuff
I ain't even have no clue about.
Ocho, you invisible.
I'm just telling you,
you invisible.
Hey, can't nobody take my pride.
Can't nobody hold me back.
Hey, like Walker I go hard in the mofo paint
what they faking
hey they might want to start calling you boy
first 48 cause it's going to be a crime scene
chalk it up
oh joe I leave
chalk it up oh joe it's a crime scene first 48 Ojo, I leave you.
Choke it up, Ojo.
It's a crime scene.
They burn 48.
Rhea, where you at, Rhea?
Bad.
Ojo, time for the Daily Dumb Dumb Award.
Who messed up? And it goes to your guy, Kadarius Toney.
This morning, he went on IG Live and Rant
and accused the team of lying about his injury.
For the third time these playoffs,
Kadarius Toney has been ruled inactive.
I told you.
I tried to tell you, Ocho, but you won't listen to me.
I told you he wasn't doing it. I told you. I told you. I told you. I tried to tell you all the show, but you won't listen to me. I told you he wasn't done.
I told you.
I told you.
I told you.
Wait, what do you mean he wasn't done?
What happened?
He's talking about they lying.
He said he not injured because they won't play him.
They trying to increase their chances of winning.
So by increasing their chances of winning, they made him inactive.
Hmm.
Damn, that's messed up, man, to play
with a man top like that. I mean,
if anything, why not just be honest with it?
If you don't want to play him, tell him
we're not playing you. We're going to deactivate you. You're a healthy
scratch, but don't be lying to the public
and telling the public that you're healthy.
The public is fine.
You should have thought about that before you started dropping all them passes.
You should have thought about that
before you lined your ass up offside.
You ain't going on no Twitter with no rant then.
When you was doing all that,
so when was the time he went on the rant about that?
Right.
Damn, I ain't know that happened.
I ain't even see that.
Yeah, I saw it.
Damn.
Fuck, man.
There's a good chance he won't be playing in Kansas City next year.
Damn. I, man. There's a good chance he won't be playing in Kansas City next year. Damn.
I like KT, too, man.
That boy a dog.
He going to get it right, though.
I'm going to get with him in the offseason.
I think it's going to be for somebody else, though.
I'm going to get him right.
I'm going to get him right.
Yeah, I know.
I'll be shipping.
I'm going to get him right.
Once he get that confidence back, boy, it get him right. Yeah, I know. I'll be shipping. I'm going to get him right. Once he gets that confidence
back, boy, it's a wrap. Why you hear me?
All them diamonds on me.
During the season,
during the season.
AT, I know you're going to see this, baby. Holler at your boy, baby.
I'm going to get you right, baby. Come holler at me.
He called 27 passes
and dropped fives.
There were six games in which he recorded one reception or less.
So why am I playing?
Why am I acting?
I mean, in six games, he called one pass or no passes.
So what am I playing in four?
So what am I missing, don't you?
Tell me what I'm missing.
You're not missing anything.
I mean, obviously, you have to have the trust of your quarterback
to get the opportunities to come your way.
And I'm assuming, based on what we've seen throughout the season,
the trust in him as far as coming from my homes, it wasn't there.
So, there's some things.
I'll tell you, keep your chat going, Ocho.
I got to go to the back room.
Chat, I'm taking it over right now
Kadarius
I know you're going to see this
you're going to be alright
back to the drawing board
back to the drawing board
if they want to play with the top
you know what you need to do
back to the drawing board
come back next year
pick up where you left off at I know what you can do I've seen you play What you need to do, back to the drawing board, come back next year, wherever you end up, end of your business.
Pick up where you left off at.
You know what you can do.
I know what you can do.
I seen you play.
I seen you play at the highest level, baby, especially when you got confidence.
Chat, how y'all feeling?
Where we at, where I know you?
Where you on the plane?
You watching on the plane?
Chat.
Y'all on my side?
I love y'all.
I love you.
Make sure you hit the subscribe button, please.
I don't ever ask you for nothing,
and I don't ask you for much.
Damn, man.
Kadarius, man. EJ, my dog need a fresh start.
That's all.
That's all it is.
It be like that sometime.
The league is very unforgiving.
Very unforgiving.
It's what have you done for me lately?
And if you ain't really done none, they'll treat you like my relationship back in 1987.
It had a girl named Elizabeth. She left me for Tony, a dude named Tony. I'll
never forget. She told me I hadn't done nothing for her lately. She put me on an inactive list.
I wonder how she doing. Chat. Where the chat at? I can't. Oh, hold on. Now I can see the chat at
I can't
oh hold on
now I can see the chat
chat what they do
what they do
hey can y'all see me
hey um
what we having
we having a good time
who sent them rolls
them on the table
chat
nah they yours you're lying man yours was Who sent them rolls on the table? Jack.
You're lying.
Man, George was eating when he hung.
He'll tell a lie.
It's his birthday and he done ordered some cinnamon rolls
on the bar. You're lying.
Jack, y'all follow Mike.
He won't be there for one.
I almost
took a bite out of it and turned it the other way
so you wouldn't notice until he got home.
Man, these people done sent him a roll.
Me and the chat was vibing just now.
That was dope.
I like that.
Chiefs make Tony, they listed him as inactive the final three games
of the regular season
as well as their three playoff games.
Remember, he got that interception and Mahal went to the bench and said,
God, you remember that old joke?
Yeah.
You lost $100 because you said, oh, I bet you people won't have no drop.
And then...
I said, oh, yeah.
I mean, it's part of the game.
It just, it happens at,
it happened at an unfortunate time.
You can't drop a pass every game.
We're talking about it happens, Ocho.
You can't drop,
you interception every game.
No, Ocho, you can't.
Ocho, now don't do that to the fans.
Don't make the fans...
No, no, no, no.
I ain't going to do that to the fans.
I ain't going to do that to the fans.
I can only speak for myself.
I can't speak for anybody else.
But I remember I had a stretch in my prime where I dropped one ball a game I ain't going to do that to the fan. I ain't going to do that to the fan. I can only speak for myself. I can't speak for anybody else.
But I remember I had a stretch in my prime
where I dropped one ball a game
for 16 weeks straight.
Pull it up.
I just made that up.
What's the most fastest Ocho
dropped in a season?
I just made that up.
Yeah, I know.
I made that up.
Hey, Rel.
Rel say she watching on the flight.
She on the plane watching us. Hey, Rel. Hey, Rel Rel say she watching on the flight She on the plane watching us
Hey, Rel
Hey, Rel
Turn up
Send us some money
Send us some money from 30,000 feet up
Asador D. asks
Uncle Nocho, I asked you guys a few weeks ago
About Lamar's criticism of him possibly winning another MVP
And not making winning the Super Bowl
How much blame does he deserve now for Apple? He deserves
some blame. He deserves the lion's share
of the blame because he's going to get the lion's
share of the credit when they win. He's
going to win the MVP.
Lamar Jackson had a fumble.
He turned the ball over and he did not play
well today. It's okay to say
Lamar did not play well today
because he didn't.
And it's not hate.
It's not jealousy.
It's not anything other than Lamar Jackson did not play well enough
for the Ravens to win today.
The defense gave up 17 points.
17.
Yeah.
What did the Ravens average this year?
How many points?
What did they, as far as scoring average?
They was the number one rush team.
I thought it might have been
maybe 13.
I might be wrong.
It might be 13.
No, no, no.
They averaged giving up 16 points.
The Ravens defense
averaged giving up 16 points.
I think about 16 points
in the regular season, Ocho.
In the regular season.
Because I think Kansas City
was second or second
with like 17 and a half, 18.
But the Ravens average...
No, scored.
How many points?
The Ravens was fourth in scoring
at 28.4 points a game.
They got 10.
Yeah.
They got 10.
Isn't that playoffs where it matters most with those numbers from the regular season really don't matter no but that's what i'm saying really no it really
don't matter and when you look at you look at uh and they stopped them on fourth down turn them
over on down the defense didn't allow any points. The turnover.
The defense pitched a shutout.
Everybody's saying, excuse me, I'm getting so excited.
Everybody's saying the defense, oh, play, hold on.
The defense pitched a shutout in the second half.
The defense gave up 60 yards in the second half.
And y'all fought in the defense?
So y'all just going to just like gonna just y'all just gonna just like
not well no we're not gonna criticize lamar lamar can do no wrong in our eyes the defense gave up
60 yards in the second half zero points yeah y'all not gonna give lamar any blame for that fumble
for those overthrows for that uh interception that horrible interception y'all so y'all just
gonna just obfuscate all blame.
And y'all going to get at the Todd Monken.
Y'all going to place it on Zay Flowers
and say the defense didn't play well.
Wow.
Wow.
Lamar gets his share of the blame.
It's okay to say Lamar didn't play well today.
He didn't.
Right.
Anybody that got eyes,
anybody that watched a game of football,
even if you're the most die-hard
of Raven fans,
can honestly say Lamar
Jackson didn't play well today. And that's
okay to say. He's going to win the MVP
because he earned it. That
doesn't mean that he shouldn't be your favorite player.
But he didn't play well today.
There's no ifs and the buts.
There's no way around it.
He didn't play well. And they lost
because of it.
I mean,
what else needs to be said?
I think they understand. I don't think
anybody in the chat would really argue the fact.
My bad, please.
They argue in the fact? Of argue the fact i mean we are please they they all watch they argue they argue in the fact of course oh look oh joe is like when a player is your favorite player
and he doesn't have the game that you expect in the moment that you expect him to play
because you've seen outstanding performances from him all year.
You saw what he did when he went to San Fran.
They blew the Lions out.
They blew the Dolphins out.
They blew the 49ers out.
They blew Seattle out when Seattle was playing well.
They beat 10 or 11 teams that had over two games that was over 500. They beat three or 11 teams that had over two games
that was over 500.
They beat three or four teams,
five teams
that won at least 10 games.
Beat the Houston Texans,
won at 10 games.
Beat the 49ers, 10 games.
Beat Miami, 10 games.
Beat the Lions, 10 games.
Beat a lot of teams.
But today,
he didn't play well
when he needed to play well. and that's what it comes down to
oh sure i remember when i was growing up and uh we used to sit around and be watching the game
and you know our team score a bunch of points and what's the first thing you say you better
save some of that for next week yeah save some Save some of them points for next week. A guy's going, hey,
save some of them for tomorrow.
Lamar didn't play well. The offense
didn't play well, but the offense
is spearheaded by Lamar.
So as he goes,
the offense goes.
And he was never able to get a
rhythm. I think it really
shocked them
with the ease
in which Kansas City went down the field and scored
those first two touchdowns because nobody
expected that. They got the ball first
two drives, go down here, 14 points.
It's
surprised me. Hell, I thought
the goddamn Ravens was going to win because
the defense in general.
Defense in general
alone.
I forget what the offense is going to do.
Obviously, as great as Lamar has been throughout the regular season,
I was like, well, shit.
Ain't no way in hell they're going to go up and down the field on that Ravens defense.
And lo and behold, what exactly did they go and do?
It wasn't a high-scoring game.
No, it's 17-10.
When the moments mattered most i mean think about how
many three and outs that the the the ravens forced in the second half the defense right
can you imagine if some of those three and outs could have turned into points whether it be three
whether it be seven just something in that yes game would have been different yes it would have
been the mars score three points in the second half.
He had seven in the first half.
They scored 10 points.
They averaged 28.
So they got 18 under what they normally get.
Yeah.
And we don't think he deserves any blame.
A little bit of blame?
Like this much blame?
Yeah.
Yeah, he deserves the blame.
But also, Spagnuolo calling a goddamn phenomenal game.
A phenomenal defensive game.
Phenomenal.
Because he had me rattled, too.
I'm like, what in the hell?
Oh, you just going to sit here and bliss like that?
Like you don't got a care in the world?
And what you call him?
And give LeJarrius Snead credit.
Hey, boy, That boy nice.
Because he beat on the play. He's like, I ain't
giving up.
He's been hell.
I don't know why he didn't make the Pro Bowl
because he traveled. He takes the
best receiver
and he does an outstanding job.
Outstanding job.
He got food. I don't know why he took that rail.
I don't know why he took the over.
When you saw the guy going, you got a safety in the hole.
You got to stay backside.
You got to stay in deep third.
You know, Zay Flowers get up the rail on him.
But give him credit.
He didn't let him get into the end zone.
Yeah.
But, I mean, I think the thing is, if you're a Ravens fan,
you just like the missed opportunities because
you saw how well you played
you saw how well you played against team
the two teams that's in the
NFC championship you blew the doors
off both of them
both of them
and
you saw how well you played last week
against the Houston Texas now
it took you a while to get out, but the second half, you stepped on the gas.
But, yeah, it was a situation.
Ridge Boyd said Lamar is James Harden.
Well, he's just got to get away.
He's got to find a way to get over the hump, Ojo.
It's really as simple as that because he's going to be –
you got the MVP, and there's It's really as simple as that because he's going to be you got the MVP
and there's a chance
he can get more, but he's
got to get to it and win a Super Bowl.
That's the ultimate measure of your
greatness because Lamar is, I mean,
look, with a Super Bowl, now
you got a chance to be talked about as a top 10
quarterback. Top 5.
Top 5. Oh, you're talking about top 10
all the time? Yes.
I think he's top 5 right now. it's hard to say he's not a it's hard to say he's not a top five quarterback right
currently right right but i'm saying when it's all said and done when his career is up
yeah by all time yeah two mvps uh possible more but he's got to get that Super Bowl.
See, the thing what Brady did in the reverse,
Brady got the Super Bowls, three, two Super Bowl MVPs,
then he got the MVP.
Now, well, he top five.
With two Super Bowl MVPs, a regular season MVP,
and three Super Bowls?
Yeah. Now, he ended up getting two more Super Bowls
I mean two more MVPs
four more Super Bowls
yeah
circumstance
and situation
plays a huge part
in that as well
so I like what
what they're doing
for Lamar
and getting him
the pieces around him
to continue to
always contend year in and year out.
Yeah.
And he will get there.
Obviously, Brady, you know how that situation went once Mo Lewis knocked goddamn Drew Bledsoe out.
Yes.
And you look at the team that he was surrounded with and what they had.
Obviously, Mahomes being who he is and having Andy Reid and just Mahomes being goddamn Superman.
He's a fuck, I almost cursed.
My bad. He's a goddamn
superhero out there, man.
Yeah, I mean,
remember we said when you got that guy,
you got a chance in every game.
Every time. Remember,
Josh Allen and Buffalo was supposed to send Mahomes
packing. Lamar Jackson
and the Ravens was supposed to send Pat Mahomes packing.
When you got that guy, how many times have they sold Brady short?
Only to have Tom Brady beat Tom Brady.
That's Patrick Mahomes.
And when you got him, you step on the field, you believe you got a chance.
As a matter of fact, it's hard
for me to believe that the Chiefs didn't expect to win that game
when you got that guy.
Because we got that guy as great as Lamar
sees in the hand. It's like he ain't packed.
Yeah.
I mean, you would think
that. But again, I'm
thinking numbers. I'm thinking
defense. And I'm not one
that would want to bet with my homes.
Bet against my homes.
Bet against my homes. But again, I wasn't thinking
with my mind. I was thinking with my heart.
Yeah. You know?
Ocho, based on everything that I
had saw this season, I had
no reason to pick them against Lamar.
Right, right, right. Considering how
well Lamar had played over the
last three months. months. They didn't
get off to the best start. Remember, they started the season
three and two. And that's what I
said, well, Lamar's not playing well.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, when Lamar starts playing
well, I got new information.
So I have to
update what I'm saying.
Right.
But
based on what I'm saying. Right. But based on what I
had, I saw
the entire season
from the Chiefs, from Mahomes,
outside
of Chiefs fans, I don't know
who saw this coming.
Because they
had never had to play a road
playoff game before the Super Bowl.
Right.
So we hadn't seen them outside of the friendly confines of Arrowhead.
Arrowhead, yep.
They go on the road in Buffalo and beat Josh Allen,
the guy that had 45, 46, 47 total touchdowns when you count rushing and passing.
You beat this year's MVP
in Lamar Jackson
and you did it in their
building. I didn't see it coming.
I didn't.
I got to be honest about it.
What happens when they go to Las Vegas?
You think they beat
the 49ers? You betting
against them?
With that guy?
Well, it's hard.
It's hard.
It's shit.
Listen, I did it today.
I ain't doing it again.
Because here's the thing.
Jordan Love had him down 10.
Yeah.
And Jared Goff had him down 17.
You don't think my homeboy can get him down that?
Hmm.
So who you taking? Jordan Love, Jared Goff, or you taking my homeboy?
My homeboy.
That's going to be a good one because you don't know what to expect.
Even though you never want to bet on my homes, but look at that 49ers.
What happens if you bet against them?
What if you get that 49ers offense
that you got in the second half
for four quarters against the goddamn Chiefs?
What if you get that Chiefs offense
that you get the first two drives?
Because here's the thing.
This is what I believe.
I believe Andy got conservative
because he said,
let's not make a mistake.
Let's make them beat us.
Not aid them in
beating us.
What's the likelihood? Given what we've seen
today, it started raining. It looked like it was raining.
Did it look like it was raining?
It was drizzling a little bit.
Now, without a
pick six, a scooping score,
do you believe based on what we
have saw from Lamar
up until that point?
Let's not aid them.
Let's not offer any assistance.
Their car is broken down.
Let's not put no air in the tire.
Let's not help them with the battery. Let's not bring
them spark plugs. Let's not do
anything that's going to get that
jalopy today
up in operation. Once they spark plugs. Let's not do anything that's going to get that jalopy today up
in operation.
Once they weren't
able to establish a running game, that's
where the comfort and Andy Reid doing
that came from. If you can't run,
you're definitely not going to sit back and
get them out of that two shell.
That's all they've been doing.
Dan 55 playing two man.
You ain't going nowhere. you ain't going nowhere you ain't
going nowhere uh red hood say just here to apologize lamar and the ravens choked i thought
he was better than josh but they're but they're both obsessed with hero ball i don't know why
these qbs don't check it down uh it's check it down beyond frustrating well i think the thing is look i thought that i thought
buffalo ran the ball extremely well last week i thought they ran the ball extremely well
the ravens didn't run the ball today well enough to let them get into a rhythm their rhythm offense
which most offenses are but they're led by the running game.
Stop this notion.
You don't, you don't, you don't,
they led the league in rushing again.
How many times have they led the league in rushing
or top three in rushing
when Lamar Jackson has been their starting quarterback
in healthy?
Damn near every year.
They rushed one year for over 3,100
they set the NFL record
for the most rush yards
in a season
over 3,000
they're a running team first
Ocho
they're a running team first
with the ability to pass
efficiently now
but once they established
the run
because we saw
they couldn't establish the
run today and it was helter skelter it was herky jerky he was 20 or 37 uh for 272 yeah
and that's okay that's okay to say i'm sure he'll go back look at the film see what he did wrong
plays that he could have made he'll learn i don't care if likely throws his hands up.
Lamar, you can see what he can.
Bet he's triple covered.
Yeah.
I mean, I seen Calvin, never mind.
I almost threw that out there.
Likely is not Calvin, is not Megatron.
So if you were thinking about that, he's not.
Hey.
I don't know why I was getting ready to say that.
People say,
Lamar Choke,
how you have the number one run,
team by a mile,
and Gus gets three carries,
he'll get three.
Todd Monken and Harbaugh
carry most of the blame.
I think what happened
is that they saw the,
they fell behind. I think what happened is that they saw the, they fell behind.
I don't think they thought that Kansas city would move the ball with the ease
in which they did the first two drives.
Yeah.
Once Baltimore kind of settled in defensively,
got their Barron's saw what they were doing.
A lot of motion,
get the ball out of his hands quick.
That's why my homes had 39 attempts only 240
yards 241 yards because i'm not gonna ask my tackles to hold up very long i'm gonna get the
ball out a lot of bubble screens hey trav hey you block i'm coming to you right now right
i gotta get the ball out of my quick i'm not gonna ask my offensive lineman to hold up very long
and i'm not gonna let him hit me in the back.
I'm not going to let him strip sag me.
I'm not going to make any mistakes.
I'm going to make them, if they win today,
Lamar is going to have to play a flawless game.
And if he can't play a flawless game, they can't beat us.
Because we're not going to give him any short fields.
We're not going to give him a scooping score.
We're not going to give him anything in the return game.
And let's see if he can play mistake free football in the moment afc championship game
with a chance to go to the soup bowl knowing that means more to him than everything he'll
start to press i believe we can make him press guys i'm telling you how defense coordinator i've
been in i've been in team room and i'm telling you what a defensive coordinator is saying,
and I'm telling you what an offensive coordinator, when they got a great defense,
I'm telling you what Mike would tell us.
And I've heard Marvin Lewis talk to the defense and how he explained to them they're going to start to press.
Just saying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Damn, I wanted it. I wanted it
for him, though, bad, but
it's all good. Sometimes you
want something so bad, Ocho, you can taste it
as death.
Can y'all talk about Lamar not being patient
and taking short passes? I saw too many of those
turned down to throw into negative
plays. Did you see that? I saw
a couple of them, but it's hard.
But it's hard.
I'm sorry. I'm Dan Lamar has had success.
I mean, early on, he did take that.
He dumped the ball down the hill a couple of times.
And they got some solid yards.
Justin Hill had four targets.
He had, you know, he had seven targets, four receptions, 34 yards, 11,
a long of 11.
I thought they got O Odell involved too late.
I mean,
he made a batted ball.
He ended up catching himself and taking it up for 13
yards. But he
made a heck of a play because it looked like Reed
might intercept it because he had his hands up on it
like he the one that batted up.
He was going to get to it first. Look, he didn't even see
Lamar going. He didn't even see Lamar going he didn't even see Lamar
Lamar was getting to it before him
yep
go ahead
you want to respond go ahead what you want to say
I was just going to say
my memory is jogging about the goddamn game
damn I'm pissed
I'm pissed
I mean John Harbaugh
if I say Jim Harbaugh Bowl. John Harbaugh.
Jim got the coaching job
for the Chargers.
Chargers.
Christopher Motley said,
oh, you think adding Andrews
to the game plan early
messed up the Ravens' flow?
I mean, the way Likely
has been playing,
I'm not, you never,
why would you take out
the hot hand?
When you got,
why would you take out
the hot hand? I thought you take out the hot hand?
I thought the thing that helped Lamar this year
is when Mark Andrews went down, and there's no disrespect,
but I thought it forced him out of his comfort zone
because he didn't have somebody he had to spread the ball around,
and he discovered Zay Flowers.
He discovered likely.
Hey, that's John Harbaugh.
He coaches his team.
He knows the pulse of his team,
and you just have to trust his decision.
Mikael R. said,
everyone said the Ravens,
but simply put,
Lamar Jackson was not ready for championship-level team.
Now the Ravens shut off Mahomes
in the second half,
but the Chiefs shut out Lamar
and the Ravens played sloppy.
Shut out Lamar,
and the Ravens played sloppy.
Yeah, they just needed,
they needed that,
they needed that one drive, Ocho, where they look like the Ravens played sloppy. Yeah, they just needed that one drive, Ocho,
where they look like the Ravens.
This offense looked like Lamar
and what we have seen
over the last three months
of the season.
That's what they did.
One of those drives, Ocho,
and they couldn't.
They couldn't get it.
At all.
And I thought they got it.
Ocho, you remember
when they got down,
I think the Kansas City scored.
I think the Chargers went down and scored.
And then the Ravens,
I think the Chiefs scored again,
made it 14-7.
Yeah.
They could never get a,
they could never really get a rhythm after that.
Yeah.
Listen, goddamn,
they was dialing up them damn blitzes, man.
They was coming from every which way. Every which way. Like, well, goddamn, they was dialing up them damn blitzes, man. They was coming from every which way.
Every which way.
Like, well, goddamn, they got it.
Well, we got to stop that, Joe.
Can we stop this every time a team loses,
older officials blew the game?
They could have easily called.
They blame the ref.
They blame the ref a lot, man.
I don't know why.
Ravens got robbed, but got to give it to Mahomes coming out,
putting work in.
Lamar kept freezing up.
Bro, they could have called Devin Duvernay for tripping on Chris Jones
in the end zone.
He tripped him.
When Lamar got outside the pocket and threw that pass,
they could have called tripping.
That was in the end zone.
That would have been a safety.
Justin Watson on the first drive on the third down.
They tackled him before the ball got there.
Y'all make it seem like the Ravens didn't get any calls.
They called a holding on Trace Smith.
They got back-to-back calling on Trace Smith.
Yeah.
And one of them took a touchdown on the board.
Remember Rasheed Rice got the ball in the end zone.
Mm-hmm.
It happens, guys. Come on now. Yeah. And one of them took a touchdown on the board. Remember Rasheed Rice got the ball in the end zone. It happens, guys.
Come on now.
Yeah.
Just the Ravens didn't play well.
The rest got it bad.
The rest got it real bad.
Because you know what's funny, Uncle?
If they really wanted to be diabolical, you can call, you can throw a flag on every play.
Every play.
You could throw a flag on every play, the entirety of the game, if you want to.
If you just want to be diabolical
and just crazy about it, if you wanted to.
Now, if it's a little extreme,
if it
changes the play or it's
blatant, you have no choice but to throw
the flag. You have to. But every
play, there's a hole in there, something of some
sort that is worth a goddamn penalty.
Well, and the guy was like, well,
and that's hard to say. Well, he was trying to get the
ball out of Mahomes' hand when he hit Mahomes in the
face. Bro, it doesn't matter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if you hit the quarterback
late, he was just trying to sack the
quarterback. I know, but he hit him late.
Jadavion Clowney hit Patrick
Mahomes right up on the chin. Don't you?
They're going to call that every time.
Every time. Especially on Mahome
boy now. Thank you.
On him, they definitely calling that.
Yes.
Definitely calling that.
You know certain guys, for the most part,
you knew you did that to Brady.
You did that to Manning.
You did that to them top-level quarterbacks.
They're not going to let you hit them like that, bro.
15-yard penalty every time.
Let's talk about if Mahomes win the Super Bowl this year.
It'll be his third and sixth season.
Playing puts him in a trajectory that gets close to Brady.
You can do me a favor and say Mahome boy loud
so Ocho can hear that he's the best quarterback in the NFL.
Now, look, first of all, I don't think Ocho is going to argue.
He knows Mahomes is the best.
That's not even up for debate.
Man, three Super Bowls and six years of starting.
I mean, what are we going to say that we're not already saying right now?
Okay, he got another one.
What's next?
What do you say at that point for somebody that's done what he's done in such a short amount of time?
What else can you say?
What else? At that point in time,
it's kind of like,
at this early,
I remember,
I really thought that Brady could get to five,
maybe six,
because he won,
I mean,
he came in the league in 2000.
So by the time he rolled around to 2005,
he had already had three.
He's six years in the league.
He got three Super Bowls. So let's just say he played 15 years based on what he had done the first three could he not win five
could he not win six so at this pace if you just pace it out my home and look look things happen
guys are gonna you know hey but who's to say that he can't get to another two Super Bowl to win them or another three and win two if he wins this one?
And you talk about another two, as easy as the Chiefs make it look,
as easy as Mahomes and Andy Reid make it look,
you're having a draft, you're having a free agency every year,
and the pieces to that puzzle are always constantly changing,
the same way it did with the goddamn dynasty over there with, with craft and Tom,
the same thing that happened over here.
The question is,
what are they going to do with,
what are they going to do with CJ?
He's clearly their best defensive player,
Chris Jones.
He's a free agent.
And the Darius need,
listen,
if they find a way,
I don't know how you can manipulate the salary cap.
I don't know what you need to do.
Move some money around.
Take some of my home's money and upload it, front load it in a goddamn signing bonus.
If you can keep Ladarius Sneed and Chris Jones, oh, they're going to be back again.
They definitely, they can be back again.
Maybe one, maybe two Super Bowls.
If you keep, man, man, the boy's good, boy.
And the thing is...
Chris Jones allows you to do what you do
defensively. I think the thing
is, but the Chiefs are going to have to start looking for
a tight end
for Kelsey. Where you going?
He's 34.
34. You don't wait till somebody...
You don't wait till your car break down
to get another one, Ocho.
Remember when we had the conversation,
you wait till the car
push you down the road?
I like.
So what would you,
I don't, okay.
I'm not saying you drive one
in the first round,
but just imagine if you could've
got a Laporta.
Now when,
now when Kelsey slides out
another two years,
now he, you can run too
they run a heavy too tight inside anyway
they keep Noah Gray they keep
plug and go
plug in and go
yeah I don't think
anyone else would be as savvy and
understanding zone and man and
the way in
he played
with that big old dungeon you got that big
knee brace on yeah yeah yeah he could play he nice oh he legit he absolutely legit he nice
just a kid from st louis says hi uncle don't show me me and my wife love your show could we get a
birthday shout out hers was the 13th and mine is january is the 30th of january we're planning to
be in vegas for the Super Bowl.
Hope we see you guys there.
Happy birthday, both of you guys.
Shout out, just a kid from St. Louis.
Happy birthday for your wife on the 13th.
Yours is coming up on the 30th.
Enjoy.
Hope to see you guys.
Come check us out.
Happy birthday to you.
Juan Cardoza said, oh, I got to take the cheeses.
They lose, I'll donate.
But if they win, you got to do nightcap live with a cowboy jersey.
Oh, no.
I ain't doing a live with a cowboy jersey until they get to the Super Bowl.
Guess that'll never happen.
They ain't having no time.
You never know. It could be the
Cowboys and the Bengals next year. You never know.
You been saying the Cowboys
since 95.
I told you what the Cowboys need to do. Obviously
they never would like to miss.
Money Mitch ate up.
Can you ask Miss Nova Taylor to be
my valentine, Mr. Mitchell?
Nova.
Mr. Mitchell wants to know can you be my valentine, Mr. Mitchell? Nova. Mr. Mitchell wants to know, can
you be his valentine?
And she better say
yeah.
Roger Moore says, I was off
that drink this weekend and my girl wasn't happy
with my mouth. Can y'all tell her I'm
sorry? Name is Brittany.
What you saying?
Oh, he was on that. He was on saying? Oh, he was on that.
He was on that.
Yeah, he was on that.
Yeah, go on.
No, he said he was off that drink.
So he should have been good.
Yeah.
Nah, he off it mean he was on it.
Like I was off that drink.
Oh, okay.
Come on.
You got to understand the lingo, man.
Shit, you say he wasn't.
I thought he wasn't drinking.
No, he was drinking and that's why he said he got to apologize.
Oh, he was off.
Yeah.
Okay.
Sure.
All right, Brittany says he's sorry.
Joshua Blanco.
Hey, Uncle Doncho, I have a CDL exam in a few weeks and I'm very nervous.
How do you guys get over the nerves for the big game?
Bro.
A big game and CDL.
Well, that's two completely different animals right there, bro.
Nah, the CDL.
You know, I got my CDL.
See, I got my CDL too.
You ain't got no CDL.
I do got my CDL right here.
You know, I got a big rig.
Remember I had a big rig?
No.
I got a...
Bro.
You don't went through...
Well, that's your driver's license.
You don't went through the
hard part. You've been doing this.
You know what you got. Hey, just go
do it.
Pressure and nerves.
I mean, look. To have nerves
is natural.
Anybody says before they do something of grave importance, they're not nervous, they're not being totally genuine with you.
Yeah.
But when you've gone through the class for what?
I mean, what, eight weeks?
You've driven, you've done all the things necessary.
You know how to do this and you know to do that. And the offloader.
Bro, you ready?
Yeah.
Bro, don't talk to yourself.
Don't make yourself.
Don't get in your own head.
Stay out your own way.
You'll do fine, Joshua.
I'm Perkins II saying, Uncle Nocho, love the show.
It's my anniversary.
We appreciate it.
You gave my wife, Kalia.
Kalia?
Kalia, a shout out. Keep grinding. Kalia.ia? Kalia a shout out, keep grinding
Kalia
happy anniversary
happy anniversary, enjoy
hope y'all did something special
pop that diamond tonight
Keala? Oh, Keala
Keala
Keala
Al, I want to wish you a happy anniversary
and say he got something special
for you yeah
Caesar
Ocasio
Ocasio Caesar
oh I know that's AOC Ocasio
Caesar Ocasio
Uncle Nocho love the show can you guys give my son
Donovan a shout out for his 18th birthday
Donovan happy birthday from your dad
he's really proud of you.
Keep up the great work.
And congratulations on reaching 18.
That's a big milestone.
Many, many more days to come.
Jay Guy said, hey, Uncle Nocho, love the show.
You guys are the best entertainment on any platform.
Can I give you, can you give my wife, damn, Leandra, Leandra got a shout out. She just gave birth to
our first baby,
Lou Akilah, on Friday.
Congratulations. Congratulations.
Wifey.
That's your first.
That's your first baby. Get back in there.
Get back in there.
This is first.
Hopefully,
wife and baby are doing well. They're
healthy.
Hopefully they're home.
And you're enjoying that new baby girl.
So congratulations.
Let's have two is better than one, though.
Two is better than one.
Make sure you get back in there.
Give her two weeks to heal up.
Let's get back to work.
Uncle J, whenever someone says Ocho,
they say you be volante.
You got more head than you got body.
You know,
you got to sing.
You'll never find bum bum,
bum bum finish that up.
Man, we can't sing.
They turn off our monetization.
We're not allowed to sing at all.
Oh, you ain't put the
stuff I sent you today. We'll do it tomorrow.
Yeah.
Guys, we weren't able to get to the Super Chat,
so we're going to try to get to it tomorrow.
I got to go to work tomorrow.
Since it's going to be
a red Super Bowl,
I figured I'd come on out there.
Red Super Bowl. I figured I'd come on out there. Red Super Bowl.
Hey, I bet anybody in the chat, I bet y'all can't guess who jersey I got on.
I can't.
Got it.
Bet you can't guess.
2007 AC Milan.
Hey, them Jordans match my jersey.
Give me 500.
I'll let you get them.
Huh?
Give me 500.
I'll let you get them.
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You ain't spending no 500.
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That's great.
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we're going to be close, Ocho.
We're going to get there.
We're going to get there.
Listen, I haven't got,
I didn't want to be rude.
I didn't want to ask.
There's a friend of mine,
someone that I know
that is huge in this certain space.
And I didn't want to,
I didn't want to do it too early.
So when we get close
to the Super Bowl,
I'm going to ask
for that push.
Okay.
I'm going to ask for that push.
Hey, bro,
I need you to do me a solid.
We're trying to hit a million.
Ask your subscribers.
Boom.
Just tell them to hit the button
and subscribe
so we can get us over a million.
And I guarantee you,
so I'm just waiting.
I'm going to see
if we can do it ourselves.
Say it before it rains today.
Okay.
Okay, Chuck.
Yeah, yeah. I'm saving it. So please make to see if we can do it ourselves. Say it for a rainy day. Okay. Okay, Chuck. Yeah, yeah.
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Let's wrap it up. The 49ers come back from 17 point a halftime deficit
deficit score 27 unanswered points to take down the lions and advance to the super bowl 34 31
uh and the chiefs go on the road and take down the Ravens.
Patrick Mahomes goes to his fifth Super Bowl in five seasons,
his fourth and sixth season as a starter,
and the Chiefs are going to their fourth Super Bowl.
Mahomes, 30-39, 241 on the touchdown.
Travis Kelsey passes Jerry Rice for the most catches in playoff history,
catches all 11 of his targets, 11 catches, a buck 16, and a touchdown.
And he went over 100 yards receiving.
He has eight of those now in the playoffs.
And they'll be going to this Super Bowl
as a rematch between the Chiefs and the 49ers.
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