Nightcap - Nightcap - Raiders Destroy Chargers, Travis Kelce Calls Out Critics, Belichick Rumors

Episode Date: December 15, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Las Vegas Raiders blowing out the Los Angeles Chargers, Travis Kelce calling out critics of the Kansas City Chiefs, rumors swirling that the New England Patriots and Bill Belichick could part ways, the NBA suspending Draymond Green indefinitely, and much more!   06:20 - Chargers Blowout Raiders 07:00 - Will Brandon Staley Be Fired In The Morning? 16:20 - Worst Blowout Losses Of Their Careers 29:30 - Chiefs WR Issues 35:30 - Tua Lost MVP Votes Without Tyreek 43:00 - Kareem Jackson Meets With Goodell 46:45 - Banning The Hip Drop Tackle 50:00 - Ocho’s “Home Remedy” For Injuries 01:03:00 - Strip Club Stories 01:14:40 - Draymond Green Suspended Indefinitely 01:50:30 - Mount Rushmore Teammates #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So we really appreciate you guys for subscribing. And hopefully we can continue to grow. And with your help and with your guidance, guidance, we'll make sure we continue to bring you the best product that we possibly can. Let's jump into the ballgame. Ocho, the Raiders blast the charge game. Sixty three. Call that a box. OK. Ball game. 63-21. Call that a ball game? Okay.

A beatdown. Yeah. The Raiders beat the Chargers 63-21. That was a score-a-gami, which means the very uniqueness of the score. It's never happened before in NFL history. It's the 1,083rd time that a unique score had happened in NFL history. The Raiders went up 42, nothing at the half eight different players scored at least a touchdown for

the Raiders per Amazon broadcast. The Raiders are the first team since 1950 Rams to have eight different players score a touchdown in a game. The question that I have for you, does Brandon Staley have a job when he opens his eyes tomorrow? I mean, listen, I think it's a 40 minute flight back to LA. I I mean, listen, I think it's a 40 minute flight back to LA.

I think it's a, I think it's a 40 minute. I'm not sure he gets on that flight. I'm not sure if I'm not sure if he makes it on that flight. I would, I have a question for you, even though you asked me, my grandma always told me never ask a question with a question, but how come brandon staley's leash to be able to coach for this long and be that bad was so long why was his lease it seemed like race so much longer than others that have coached the chargers i'm just oh yeah and you're going back to my former teammate anthony lynn because he definitely wasn't he definitely wasn't given the kind of leeway and

the latitude that brand Staley has. I think the thing is that in that situation, I think they kind of wanted to wait. They didn't want to make a change so abruptly. They wanted to give him some time. But given the situation with that talent of a roster, and no one can tell me that the Chiefs don't have talent on both sides of the football. Something is amiss.

When you have that level of quarterback, when you have Keenan Allen, when you have Eckler, when you have the offensive weapons that you have, you have a Bosa, you have a Khalil Mack, you have a Sante Samuel Jr. You have some guys. That's a very talented roster. I believe this roster, Derwin James, I believe this team has underachieved. And after this pathetic showing,

and I don't, you know what, Ocho, when you played the game as long as you and I have, I hate to use the term quit, but I didn't see a whole lot of effort going on tonight. I'm not going to say they quit,

but I didn't see the effort. Right, right, right. And you know what was funny to me? You already many times how many times have you been on team they're scoring 60 points in a game period forget the nfl in a game period i think that the highest scoring game i've been i've been a part of was uh we played cleveland browns i think it was maybe the scores 51 to 45 something But it wasn't that the teams didn't quit. It just so happened that the defenses that day weren't good and the offenses were on fire. But today, the output in which we saw from the Chargers offensively, listen, at the end, what do you call it? Like when in trash time, what's the correct word when you score at the end of the game?

Garbage time. Garbage time. Those touchdowns in garbage goddamn time really means nothing, man. It wasn't a good showing from either end of the game. Garbage. Garbage time. Garbage time. Those touchdowns and garbage goddamn time really means nothing, man. It wasn't a good showing from either side of the ball. It's unfortunate that Justin Herbert was out. Keenan Allen was out. But those aren't excuses.

You know what? Next man up. And you're playing for, if you're not playing for the Chargers, you're playing for the name on the back of your goddamn jersey. You're playing for the name on the back. No, you're playing because,

Ochoe you do realize that this game tape is going to all 31 other teams excuse me 30 other teams so you auditioning you always have to understand you're auditioning for another team and so this see these are the type of games that get coaches fired and gets players cut because that eye in the sky people don't look now you tell me this guy's playing hard because it's easy it's easy ocho when you're up to play hard it's easy when it's a nip tuck ball game to play hard but let me ask you this when there's no possibility where there's no chance of you winning are you still busting your ass are you still giving me that effort because i need to

because like to see see the eye in the sky don't lie it doesn't know if you're black or white it doesn't know how much money you make all it does is take with recording what it sees and i don't see the effort see i didn't see the effort when it was a 35 34 ball game a couple of weeks ago i didn't see the effort when we were up by 14 and we were getting after it on both sides of the ball. I didn't see that effort. And that's the one thing. Because I can't control the score. The one thing each individual can control is his effort. You're right. That's on you. Right. Listen, goddamn Aiden O'Connell, man. Twenty four, thirty four, two forty four TD Devante Adams finally back on track. To me, still, despite the season not being accustomed to what we're used to seeing

from what I consider the best receiver in the game, 8-for-101 in the TD. Dog, what happened last week when the Raiders played the Vikings? They scored zero points. Where was this offense? The NFL is so funny to me. And the fact that I played in it and don't understand how you can go from one week having a donut to coming the following week and putting up 60-something points. I don't understand. I don't understand.

No, that's what. I think that's one of the things what makes people love the NFL so much because you don't know what you're gonna get yeah yeah because one one i mean because realistically my team has a chance to win and it because it's one game ocho you see in a series the likelihood of somebody beating somebody four times or i'm kicking a game winning field goal two out of the four times that we win the series or i'm i'm getting a big oh i'm getting a game winning touchdown or a walk-off a punt return or a field goal but in the in in in a situation where it's one game and anything can happen you know in a situation the team that's supposed to win the further and further you get into the

game and they haven't separated from the team that's supposed to lose or the underdog, now all of a sudden you start to lose a little confidence and start to tighten up. They start to gain a little confidence and start to open up. And before you get to the fourth quarter, all of a sudden you look at like, oh, damn. They're right down with you. Uh-oh. Exactly. And so now all of a sudden, I remember in college,

we were playing this team called Fayetteville. We were playing Fayetteville State. And my coach said, going into the game, he said, guys, these guys don't have a lot to play for. He said, but now we're messing around to let this game stay close. They're going to mess around and start turning cartwheels in the fourth quarter. Ocho, I'll be damned. They go up and score

a touchdown. They go up. I think they went up. They went up like 17-14. Abedam, the dude didn't get a touchdown to turn the cartwheel. Turned the back. Coach Davis, the defense come to the sideline. He said, I told you. I told you. And so, yeah, I just don't know. I mean, you in Vegas, Ocho,

you know what? You said it's a 40-minute flight. He might as well just go ahead and stay there, hang out, get him a cup. I mean, all those casinos, get his gab alone. Wait, wait, wait. Matter of fact, how many weeks you got left for the season? Four. Okay, we got four weeks left.

I'm assuming maybe I'm not sure who the Chargers owner is. You think they'll just let him ride out the rest of the season? I think Dean's family. It don't make no sense to find nobody with four weeks left. You might let him get out to the school year. What's the point of suspending a kid and you only got four days of school left?

It don't make no sense. Let him go ahead and get a head start on the summer jobs. Let him go ahead because you know you can't talk to the team if you're employing. So let him go ahead and get a you can't talk to team if you're right so let him go ahead and get a head start on on coaching vacancies but what's the sense in keeping when you know the team isn't playing or playing hard enough for him yeah they're not responding they're not responding

as they should right okay i see i see what you mean oh joe what was your biggest what was your biggest blowout loss in your career? High school, college, pro? Let me see. Oh, that's a good one. As a matter of fact, let me take my glasses off on that because that'll get my brain working right. Brain working right.

It's like when you got to turn the radio down when you back into a spot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to think. You're thinking about something, you turn the radio down like that. Biggest blowout loss. God damn.

I know it probably had to be during my bangle days, but I just can't remember. It had to be early on in my career. If anybody in the chat, they got some stats, it could go back to a blowout that I know I've had. I just can't recall right now. I'm sure somebody will bring it up. I mean, it might not have been

a 50-0 or a 50-10 game, but I'm saying that somebody beat you. It might be something like that now. You got to think those early 2000 Bengals, we was a... Hey, boy, it was rough, boy. It was rough. Yeah, 2000, 2010s,

1990s, 1980s, 1970s. That's unnecessary. Comes, 1970s. That's unnecessary. That's unnecessary, Pastor. Don't do that. Wait, what about you? My biggest win, my junior year, we beat Morehouse 70-13. 70-13? Yeah, that was the first time my mom had seen me play in college.

So I went to Coach Davis, rest his soul. My offensive coordinator's name was Darryl McNeil, but we called him Brick. He's passed us also. And I told Coach Davis, I said, Coach Davis, this is the first time my mom seen me play. I said, Coach, I don't need no bull jive. He said, hold on, talk to Brick. I said, nah. I said, Brick didn't come

down to recruit me. He said, if I had anything going on, I could talk to you. So my said, nah. I said, Brick didn't come down to recruit me. He said, if I had anything going on, I could talk to you. So my mom is coming. I need to show out. Five catches a buck, 25 in three turns. Come on, now. I think my biggest loss probably

was 1992. I think we lost to the Philadelphia Eagles. I think we lost 37-0.. I think we lost 37-0. And I think we might have had 40 yards of total offense. 40? Oh, wait. I can tell you the defense right now. Reggie White. Reggie. Troy Vincent.

No, I don't think Troy went to Miami first before he went to Philly. He got drafted by Miami. Yeah. All I remember is Troy Vinson and who was on the other side? The tall corner on the other side of Troy.

Bobby Taylor. Bobby Taylor, yeah. Back then, they had Eric Allen, EA. See, EA had the most returns for a touchdown before Deron Bland.

He had four in 93. Okay. It was Clyde Simmons. It was Reggieland. He had four in 93. It was Clyde Simmons. It was Reggie White. They had Byron Evans. They had Seth Joyner. They had Muddy Waters. That was the year that they dedicated to

Jerome Brown. Boogie arrested, so he had gotten killed in a car accident earlier that year. They dedicated that season to him. Randall Cunningham, they had Fred Barnett. Urban Fryer? No. I think I think Reb was there.

I can't remember the receivers. He might have been because you know he might have been. Nah, he might have been in Miami. Okay. Because you know he got drafted by the Patriots number have been in Miami. Because you know he got drafted by the Patriots number one overall in 84.

He went to the Patriots. Hold on. I traded. Hold on. Hold on. I traded. Look at the helmet. I got. Hold on. Helmet over there. As a matter of fact, I traded helmets with him at the Pro Bowl. He might have been there.

He might have been., I traded helmets with him at the Pro Bowl. So he might have been there. He might have been. Because I traded helmets with him one year. He might have been. But I know he ended up playing with the... Okay. Can you see that? Hey. Listen, hey, man, that make me feel bad, man.

Because I didn't... Dude, I don't have no memorabilia, man. I don't have no memorabilia, man. I don't have no memorabilia. I got three jerseys. I got a Bengal jersey framed up. I got a patron jersey framed up and I got a dolphin jersey framed up. And look, when I tell you nothing, like I have nothing to show my kids. I ain't got it's like once I start playing a game, I just erase like football just out my past, man. Like, no, that was the thing. I saw my brother and I didn't know this was a tradition because he went to the first his first Pro Bowl because he led the league in receiving, receiving and yards. And I think he went to the Pro Bowl and then he came back. I think he had Pat's Willings. He got like two helmets and I didn't know that was a tradition.

So he said, yeah, you go to the Pro Bowl, what you do, you exchange, you know, you fight, you exchange helmets. And so I was like, man, that's going to be cool. I can't wait to make the Pro Bowl. And so what you try to do, I mean, obviously me and Ben Coates, I traded with Ken Dilger.

I traded with Wesley Walls, normally the tight, normally tight ends. So I got a Carolina. I got a Patriots. I got a Coles helmet. I traded with J.O. Jonathan Ogden. So I got the original Raven. I traded with Derek Thomas.

DT. Rest in peace. DT. I traded with Hardy Nicholson, the old cream sickle, the old, the old table. But yeah, I traded with who Nicholson, the old cream sickle, the old tablet. Yeah. I traded with who else? Oh, Chad

Brown, Seahawks. Yeah. So, and I got somebody else's helmet too. I forget. I got a bunch. I went, I made it eight times on show, but a couple of times I didn't go because what I would look, and I hate saying this

and people like, man, but if I found out somebody behind me and they had never gone, I pull out. Hey, boy, you're a real one, boy. You see, that's the type of shit people don't know about, man. See, that's why I fucking love you.

That's some good shit right there, man. That's, you know, you know, it's a funny thing is the players today don't understand the privilege it was to make the Pro Bowl back then. Because this one in Orlando

that they do now, oh, that ain't nothing. That ain't nothing. You had to go over. You had to go across that wall. To make the Pro Bowl during our day, during our time was the real deal. real deal you know it was it was it was like it was an honor to make it to be able to take your family take your family and experience that iolani hotel to experience the island oh it's amazing man amazing yeah i went

oh joe when i when i first started going, they changed it to the Ilani in 93. My first time that I went, it was at the Hilton Hawaiian Village. The Hilton Hawaiian was open. So you just everybody right in your face, everybody right there in your face. And so I remember what arrested. So Frank, watch it went um i made it in 98 and uh my position coach in denver um was his position coach uh uh uh in in uh tennessee and he hit me up he said well uh he's he always called me sweetheart to this day less deco less. He would always call me sweetheart. He'd say, sweetheart. I'd say, what's up, Steckle? He said, I need a favor from you.

I'd say, tell me what you need. He said, he told me Frank Wycheck was the first alternate. And it would really mean, OK. I mean, I've done it for other players also. I don't want to call no name, but if I, if guys would reach out and it's like, Hey bro, you are, you going to the bowl. I mean, Oh, back then the winners got 10,000, the losers got 5,000.

So what the hell 10,000 going to do for me? I had them blown 10,000 flying my coach, his wife, all three of my position, my position coach, uh, repeat of my position my position coach uh brie p bronco my position coach wade harman was my position coach les deckle was my position coach so by the time i fly them out and their wife first class put them up for the entire week i'm coming out of my pocket right because the hotels back then was like 250 a So $250 a night times three plus first class accommodation. So, yeah. So it wasn't like I was in love with going over because normally I was going to the Super Bowl.

So the Super Bowl might be in New Orleans. Now I got to fly from New Orleans to San Francisco. New Orleans to San Diego. Yeah. And then got to get on a plane or I'm leaving, leaving Detroit or something. So it's like, nah,

it really, and after the time for me, once my brother, you know, my thing was to try to make it with my brother. That, that was, that was my big thing.

So once I made it with him, you know, it was a, and I don't want people to think it wasn't an honor because it was an honor but for someone else to get that opportunity because i expected to go back the following year so it wasn't no guarantee if i didn't let him go he was gonna be able to go because i knew i was gonna go back so that's uh that's what that's that was one of the things that i prided myself on the guys like hey bro okay sure no problem no problem. Ocho, your biggest loss was against the Jets, 37-0, week 17, 2009.

God damn! We lost that bad? Same as my, just like me, 37-0. Wait, we didn't get a field goal? Zero. Wait, 30? As a matter of fact, they say y'all didn't even cross half field. Hey, that, matter of fact, say y'all the new cross half field hey that matter of fact hold on you said 2009 yep that motherfucking revis that's that motherfucking year and it

boy the just defense man the just defense was crazy that year man you hear me yeah and matter of fact i think matter of fact i think to with to might have been with us that year too but that goddamn defense man that year boy it was hell you goddamn defense, man, that year, boy, they was hell. You hear me? And they beat it. And matter of fact, not only did we lose 37-zip, I think they beat us the following week after that, too, if I'm not mistaken. They beat y'all in the playoffs?

Yeah, man. They did. Golly. That's bad. That's bad. That's something, man. That's like when you act a fool, you know, you act a fool somewhere, your mama tear your ass up, your mama tear your ass up,

your grandma tear your ass up, and then when you get home, you tear your ass up again. Y'all got two ass cut for the price of one. That's crazy. But you know what? Back in the day, Ocho, my grandma would beat us,

and she would remember stuff from a month ago or two weeks ago I was supposed to tear your ass up I'm like oh no so what come on granny my grandma had a saying my grandma had a saying

listen I might not get you now but I'm going to beat your ass for the old land of new so she had doubled up on my ass because she had let something slide I'm going to let something ass for the old land of new. So she'll double up on the ass because she'll let something slide. I'm going to let something slide. But then if I act up again, well, I'm going to beat you for the old land of new, which you just did today.

Yeah. Boy, I never... And then what do they do, Ocho? I don't miss them. Because guess what? As soon as people start coming over, your uncle, your aunt start coming over, yeah, you know I had to tear that boy ass up.

Why you got to tear that ass up? Don't let nobody, don't let people come over and you was young now. And you know, I, and for me, I was in dance back in the day. I used to do no, I'm not trying to be funny. I should do. I was in theater. I was, I was in, I was in dance. I was in arts.

You know, I have an appreciation for that. Come on out here and dance for them and show them your routine, now. Come on out here, boy. Hey, man, come on. If you got a talent, if you got a talent, black people going to make you short, make you short until people come over. Yeah, man. Oh, those are some good days, man. Yeah, but I'm like, Granny, you ain't got to tell.

Ain't nobody ask you that, Granny. You ain't have to tell you you whipped me earlier this week. Ain't nobody even ask you that. They say, man. Yeah, but I'm like, Granny, you ain't got to tell. Ain't nobody ask you that, Granny. You ain't have to tell you you whipped me earlier this week. Ain't nobody even ask you that. They say, how you doing, Mary? And the first thing that's out your mouth, you're like, yeah,

I had to tell that boy. Tell all your business. Tell all your business. I'm like, come on, Granny. Ocho, check this out. Travis Kelsey calls our critic. I think our defense is playing their asses off all year.

Man, we're not rolling like we have been in the past and i know there's a lot of media pointing finger that some of the skill players that we have i say effort that man man excuse my language it's a group effort and when you turn on the film what's real is we got we got guys that can play this game we got guys that can have success that we can have success with success with and win with win championships with. I know that. I know. Excuse me. I've been on championship caliber teams. When you watch the film penalties in critical moments, turnovers in critical moments. And it's everybody in the years past. We find ways to win these games.

And I think we're finding ways to get better every single week. Hey, try out. You know, Travis, my guy, that's my nephew. That's my guy. That's my guy. But Trav, everything that you said in here is what the media is saying. Yeah. It's penalties. It's drops.

It's fumbles. And it's the same guys because guess what? It's the same players. It's MBS. It's Sky Moore. It's Rice. It's Kadarius Toney. Yes. yes yes and i'm saying you got guys and you getting you getting you know you say we're finding ways to get better how you got 33 drops

not you got 34 okay but you got 34 drops so i'm just I'm just where, okay. Where is the improvement? And I'm not saying that you guys can't, but I haven't seen it. I see better than I hear. Right. So I don't know. And I get it. I get it.

I'm all for you. Right. We take up for your teammates. Every time you got, you know, I, I, I believe Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes did what they did at the officials and say all that stuff because they were so they didn't want to say something to Kadarius Tony.

That was because, you know, Ocho, sometimes you could like be mad. You get mad at somebody and it's really not about them. Somebody else really made you upset. But you pointing your anger at them and it's misguided so they said what they said and they come back and retract what they said because come on bro you saw that man lined up a damn foot off the ball you couldn't from the sideline you couldn't even see the ball and you know you know i mean well we talked about it there's no need to read no need to beat a dead horse. But I mean, it's unfortunate.

I understand where Travis Kelsey is coming from, especially for somebody like him, who is the one of the leaders of the team to be able to come out and say, you know, all right, God damn it, enough is enough. As a team, we've made mistakes.

Some of those mistakes are costing us addressing those mistakes. You know, we're doing what we can to fix those mistakes because now it come nut cutting time you got four weeks left in the season you're going to make the postseason you don't know who you're going to face but those names that you just called the sky moors the regime rice uh mbs and god damn cadarious tony cadarious they're going to have to show up and do

one thing one one word. You know, when it comes to NFL, this is what, this was, this would take team from great or makes players great or make them average being consistent. We need the play coming in the postseason to be consistent.

No more mistakes, but they can't even think about that. This is the one thing those receivers are going to have to do. You have to forget everything that's happened. Forget about all the drops. You got to play free because you receivers are going to have to do. You have to forget everything that's happened. Forget about all the drops. You got to play free because you're not going to be yourself unless you're playing free without thinking.

The minute you be worried about, oh, well, the media said this or the media said that, and you're not playing yourself, it ain't going to work. You're going to fuck up. You're going to fuck up. And the worst thing about not having confidence, oh, my God, that is the worst thing to have. Oh, man. You're going to fuck up. You're going to fuck up. And the worst thing about not having confidence, oh my God, that is the worst thing to have. It's everything. Oh man, you're going to mess up. Yeah, confidence is everything.

You can't play, you can't play at a certain, you can't play period without some confidence, but the more confidence you have, the better you are. I mean, you look at the players that believe that are the best,

they believe they're the best. They walk on the field, said I'm the baddest mofo out there. And they sincerely wholeheartedly believe it. It affects your play. Cause the guy, it, it,

matter of fact, you're so confident. You feel like you can walk on water. Can you really walk on water? No, but you'll be, you'll, you'll come goddamn close because you believe.

Cause, and that was the greatest thing. I mean, when we'd have guys playing other than John and we'd come off the side or we'd be in practice and we're coming off the field and they threw the ball somewhere else and Mike would tell him, do you know who the F that is?

Do 84. He's going to the Hall of Fame. Throw him the F and ball. Or you on the sideline and they and your teammates 80 y'all can't do no y'all can't stop 84 you know they say hey oh cho cookie cookie mocho get it yeah i'm like oh yeah hey you heard what he said i got to get you you got to wear this sale get that work so kyle Kyle Shanahan was asked about Brock Purdy and Christian McCaffrey MVP campaign. The only reason I wouldn't overly commit on either one of them because I don't want to cancel each other out. But if any non quarterback is going to get an MVP, I don't know how it's not Christian McCaffrey.

I mean, he's amazing in what he's done all year. If a quarterback, then I have to talk about Chris. I have to talk about if it's going to be a quarterback and then i don't have to talk about christian i can talk about our quarterback and if his numbers is all you see i think that solves it but if you watch the film then make it it makes it an even stronger which to me is the most important thing purdy is third in passing yards 3350 3553 Second and passing touchdowns, 25, while ranking 22nd in pass attempts. So he's putting up these numbers,

not throwing nearly as many passes. So in other words, he's more efficient with the passes that he does throw with a higher touchdown percentage than the other quarterbacks. And he's number one in QBR. Dak Prescott, who I believe is his chief competitor, ranks fourth. What is he?

38, 48, 48 yards behind him. He's first in passing touchdowns with 28. He ranks sixth in pass attempts, and he's second in QBR. So it's going to come down. It's going to be, you know, like I said, you remember we was talking about Ojo, it's horse race and down the stretch they come. C-Mac is first in rush yards, 1177.

He's first in rush yards per game, 90.5. He's second in rush touchdowns, 12. I mean, listen. And that's the best. I love what the 49ers are doing. But that juggernaut of an offense, man. That juggernaut of an offense. It's almost unfair.

And I've made the comparison before when you and I talked about it. And I compare it to that Warriors team when they had fucking Steph, Kevin Durant, goddamn KD. I mean, like, goddamn, you can't go no wrong. And then when you look at it,

well, you know what? You should be putting up those numbers. When you look at supporting cast, you have to work with. You got them, you got them, Brandon Ayuk, you got Debo Samuels, you got the goat,

maybe one of the greatest left tackles of all time, and Trent Williams. Then you got, you got the quarterback. Obviously, we know what you got in the backfield. You got Dan McCaffrey. He's been doing it for a very long time. Well, goddamn.

You got Kittle. Oh, my goodness. I forgot Kittle. I'm sorry. Kittle, I'm sorry, baby. I know you're going to see this. I love you to death. But you got Kittle.

I mean, what you expect? You got a superstar team. You have a superstar team. When I think about the MVP, I'm being a little biased. I like what Tyreek Hill has done. I don't have his numbers in front of me, but I just have a better. I think he has 1,542 yards, 12 touchdowns. Off the top of my head, I don't know.

I don't have the numbers in front of me either, but I remember seeing it a couple of days ago. And I think if my memory serves me correct, I think it's 1542. So I'm, I'm just thinking about what he means to that offense with the dolphins. I'm just, I'm just thinking about it.

He, he hurts his ankle. He goes out for two quarters and the offense is stalls completely. They're, they're, they're struggling to do the ball and be as efficient as they should be. And it, it goes to show the importance that he is, how valuable he is.

And he's not even a quarterback. He's not even a quarterback. And you were able to see that visibly, pure as day. And I think that's why they lost. Those two quarters hurt them because to me, with Tyreek being on the field i think that's 14 to 21 goddamn points but you know what ocho what he did by not playing but maybe a couple of

plays uh that game on monday night he took all the two votes away that we two could could possibly get for mbp he took them away okay i see what you mean. Because all the voters are going to say, no, it ain't you. It's Tua. It's Reek. It's Reek. Because he looked lost. He looked very... Without Tyreek on the field, he looked very marginal. He still had

Mostert. He still had Waddle. He still had Wilson. He still had the weapons. Devon A. Chain. He still had all the guys on the field that he would normally have except 10. And he looked marginal. And then you see they start getting going again once he got back on the field. So all the votes, all the voters that could potentially possibly be voting for a tour. Say, no, it's not you, bro. I'm sorry.

It's Tyreek. I think I like Tua. Tua is good. He's very efficient, very accurate. Very, very, very, very accurate. And when it comes in within the offense, within the timing of the offense, he is very, very good at being very accurate

and throwing the ball on time. I like him. Yes. But I don't know. I just had to make my case for Tyree because obviously they would never they would never give me mvp to a receiver it's a quarterback award well the closest well i'm saying the closest receiver came was jerry in 87 um when he played 12 games the strikes short season he played 12 games he had 22 receiving touchdowns and if i'm not mistaken he lost by one vote or two votes to john elway but i think in 82 a kicker

won the mvp what uh cox from the washington red oh excuse me i don't want to say that they were you know we they were the name but now they're the commanders but if i'm not mistaken i think the strike short season didn't steve cox win the award mark mosley mark most straight on kicker mark mosley but it was an 82 right 82 with another strike short season that's crazy now there have been two defensive players to win the award alan page was the first to win it lt was the last to win it. LT was the last to win it. Minnesota, the Purple People leaders, Alan Page, Minnesota Vikings, LT, that great defense in 86.

They completely dominated games consistently throughout the entirety of a season. So I understand it. But when I look at what Tyreek has been able to do, he has completely dominated games throughout the consistency of a season. And he said, listen listen he set a goal i want i want to have 2 000 yards by the end of season he set a goal and he still he right there on it he right there on it you know how hard you know how hard it is to say you know what i'm gonna go do this and then go and execute it and do that and they know it's

coming and you still can't stop it yeah he's gonna have to pick up the pace because that 61 yards really hurt him remember i told you ocho he needs to have one of these games where he goes 200 and maybe have another 150 behind it because as he gets closer the team's like i don't want you breaking the record on us right right right because remember in the last dance there was a lot of things leading up to it but what did they mainly show the shot oh utah yeah again utah wasn't the only one yeah yeah yes he pushed it and he held a pose so teams like nah you're not we're not going to be in your documentary the whole the whole documentary all you do to talk about you know it's funny the funny thing about it even if you do come in with a game plan you know what we're gonna stop tyreek they're gonna find the mismatch anyway because

they do so many different things with them what schematically you ain't no way to stop them they put in motion they put in the slop they put him in the backfield man they do all kind of things with him where he's consistently find ways to get the man the ball no matter what. But in that situation, I think it's going to be different, Ocho. Because if it's close, let me tell you why. You remember when Jared Rice day, his

last game in 99 when he was with the 49ers? Oh. No, he's with the 49ers. And they played the Bears and they had a Jared Rice appreciation day. That was the day that T.O. broke the record because they said we're not going to let Jared Rice celebrate. And the next day, you know,

T.O. got 20 for like 200 or something. So that's what they like. Jalen Waddle might have 300 yards. So, you know, you know, you might have two other receivers, but they're going to do everything they possibly can to make sure Tyreek doesn't get that record uh uh uh hold up i remember also jamal lewis i think jamal lewis needed like a hundred yards against the steelers to break uh

ed's record the steelers say uh-uh coach kid i remember talking to coach kyle coach kyle said he was not gonna get that like somebody else might have got to hunt 200 yards rushing, but he wasn't. That's crazy. That's funny. Three Cowboys, three more Cowboy players have the flu. Michael Parsons is fully recovered from the flu. Remember, he was suffering last week,

but he's making his rounds through the locker room. Stephon Gilmore, Brandon Cooks, and Jalen Tolbert are all battling it now. And I think they mispracticed today. Have you ever had anything like that come through your locker room? No, not that I can remember. And if it did happen, I don't remember because it's been so long. I'm 12, 13 years removed from the game, so I really don't remember anything like that. But I like this.

I like the fact that the flu has come through the locker room. You know why? You know who else's locker room the flu came through? The Bulls. Who? So I need the Cowboys to remember to watch,

go back, go to YouTube and watch Michael Jordan flu game and that's how I need y'all to play. But you see what you just did? Now you always get on me. Why every time you got to compare somebody, you got to compare them to the highest of the high?

Because that's what the Cowboys plan right now. They plan the highest of the high. So let me ask you a question. So which one Michael Jordan? Which one Michael Jordan? On the Cowboys? Yeah. Dak Dakota Prescott?

Dak Dakota Prescott is Jordan. You want to know who Pippen is? So he's not Michael Jordan. You want to know who Pippen is? So he didn't buy for Jordan. Want me to tell you who Pippen is? Seedy motherfucking Mary Had a Little Lamb. Yeah. Let's go.

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again he met with commissioner goodell and Commissioner Goodell told him in their meeting that he was responsible for protecting the offensive players. He says, I was told that I'm responsible for the offensive guys' protection. I'm not really sure how I protect myself, make a play, and protect the offensive

player as well. But that's what I was told. I'm not really sure what I do moving forward as far as playing the game. So that's what I was told. I'm not really sure what I do moving forward as far as playing the game. So hopefully I'll figure it out. Bullshit. I love commission. Commission, you know, and I talk to you every chance I see you at an event, you and I

have a conversation, I give you a hug. But that's not the defensive player's job to protect them. Because whose job is it to protect the defensive player? Huh? Hello? You don't ask offensive players to protect the defensive player huh hello uh you you don't ask offensive players to protect the defensive players because they cut they cut defensive players all the time listen i've said it before and i told you again listen good day you know listen good day and i are on on uh a first name basis we we converse once a month which which is which is

kind of weird being the fact that I am of no value to the NFL no more, but we still have a relationship and we've stayed in contact all these years later. But the NFL has handicapped defensive players so bad to the point where one of them are going to end up hurting themselves because you can't play football the way we've always played. There's no way to learn and adapt and new ways to tackle. It's impossible at this stage. It's just nothing you can do.

Because it divides physics. Everybody got bigger, faster, and stronger. The dimensions of the field are still the same. There is nothing you can do. Nothing. You have running back getting fined for lowering their head. You got DBs getting fined for lowering their head. How else are you supposed to play the

game of football? Kareem Jackson, I love you to death. I don't even know what to tell you. Normally, when there's a problem, I always have a goddamn solution. I don't even have no solution for you. And I'm an offensive player. But the only thing I can tell you is to play a game. But brother, please protect yourself. Because if you change the way you play the game, if you change the way you tackle, you're going to end up hurting yourself, man. You're going to end up hurting yourself. Yep.

Mm-hmm. And I think the thing is, Ocho, is that physics will always be a part of sports. Because anything that goes up it must come down must come down because here's the thing ocho we're we're taught that anytime we see danger it's just like if somebody put their fingers and hand in front of your face you blink that's just instinct so if i catch a ball and i see a guy coming i'm gonna do this ocho because i'm trying to protect myself. So he might have had a target point up here.

But when I see him and I try to protect myself... You're coming down to him. I brought myself into his danger zone. And what's he supposed to do? Oh, man. He's supposed to come full speed, see me. Only in cartoons can somebody

stop running full speed. But this is in cartoons. Can somebody stop running full speed? But this is real. This is reality. And you're asking the human body to do something that it wasn't intended to do. It's not possible. It's not possible. It's impossible. It's not a game speed and game tempo.

It's impossible to do. And at some point, at some point, what's going to happen? We're going to end up having to play flag football. That's what it's going to come down to. We're going to have players that are going to come to an agreement and say, listen, it's a game. We're going full speed. I'm going to just tap you on the hip.

I'm going to just tap you on the hip because that's what the game is coming to at this point. Ocho. But you remember I told you, I said, Ocho, they're going to ban that drop tackle. They're coming to now at this point oh joe but you remember i told you i said oh joe they're gonna ban that drop tackle they're gonna ban that drop tackle to pull down and bring it way down yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah when you drop your weight down i said oh joe i told you i said oh they're gonna get that up out of there because too many too many guys are getting right hurt because they can say well because see here's the thing Ocho. If it was like a situation where guys are like turf and grass,

but we've seen guys tear their ACLs on grass. We've seen them tear their ACLs on turf. We've seen them tear Achilles and things of that nature. But that one thing for certain, nothing causes more injuries on a tackle than that drop tackle. Yeah, but you know what? Another thing about it though this is what can also save those that are being tackled for the offensive players when they

do drop do the drop tackle most of the times if you look at the injuries that have happened the person is always fighting it the person is always still trying to go if you let your body go limp pause let your body go limp and just roll with it or just go with paul my bad my bad limp i mean they might have something they might have something one of them on tavis in the system that Let your body go limp and just roll with it or just go with it. Yeah, you need to pause that. My bad, my bad. Limp. Ooh. I mean, they might have something. They might have something, one of them old tablets in the system that you used to take. So it ain't going to be able to go limp. I said pause, man. I said pause.

But no, let your body go. You can't shut it down just like that old joke. But I was really good at it. When I felt contact and it was going against the way I was going, I just went with it. I let, I just let the body go and you just flow with it and it prevents yourself from getting hurt. But Ocho,

I mean, you might see, I think like when I got into the league and for like seven, eight, nine, 10 years, I might see somebody get tackled like that once every seven, eight games.

Now you might see that tackle two, three, four times a game. Yeah. i mean abel i mean i made a play albert lewis tackled me like that in 93 we're the arrowhead i know you don't know the arrowhead used to be turf um before they changed it and so i called uh i think i called like a like a little Seattle route, which is a quick slam. And I jump up and catch the ball and he's around my waist and he slide down and right

on my ankle, Ocho. Right on it. Right. Ooh, baby, you talking about some pain? But now the thing is, we didn't get no high ankle sprains. It was just an ankle sprain. And now I'm just getting ready to come into myself. I'm all of a sudden, I'm the guy that they counting on.

Ocho, I ain't practiced. I just shot the ankle up every week. Shot it up. I had shot it up so much that I couldn't tape because I used to tape to my skin. And I made the mistake of taping to my skin. I hadn't took so many shots, the skin, I peeled all the skin off my ankle. So now it's just open. It's a funny, funny story. And I've told this story all the time and people always ask, man, how did you manage, you know,

to have a career and have no injuries? And the funny thing about it is I had home remedies that I use and people, nobody believed me. Nobody ever believed me. No, you never had no angle spray? Yeah, I sprayed my angle before, but what I used to do for me is I used to get urine. Y'all stay with me now. I used to get urine and warm it up really, really- Where that urine from? Where it from? I need a quick explanation. Who urine? Yours? I get mine. And if it wasn't enough, if it wasn't enough of mine, I would have to get my teammates urine. Listen to me. Listen. I'm listening.

I'm listening. It work wonders, though. I get enough urine to where I can, if it's enough in a bucket that I can warm up. I put my ankle that's swollen or the one that's sprained, warming up really hot, sit my foot in the urine and the heat and the toxins from the urine would absorb all the swelling, all the swelling out. And I swear, if I sprained my ankle, even if it's the high, if I sprained my ankle on the Wednesday and we played sunday by the time i got to friday i was able to do that fast walk through practice on friday and play the game fully healthy sunday i was there i was no i'm gonna have to miss that game if i gotta stick my foot in the

bucket of urine i'm gonna there's a reason listen you can't make the club in the tub you can't make the club in the tub and that's one of the reasons why i had i played a full career with no injuries because i always had little remedies that'll get me through you can't make the club in the tub and if it's p it ain't me i just got you on your own no no oh no all that stuff they do it oh no there ain't no ain't no big peeing going on ain't no peeing oh no ain't no peeing going on. Ain't no peeing. Oh, no. Ain't no peeing going on nowhere. I can't do that, Ocho. Look here. I done ate up.

I done had, you know, some squirrels. Hey, what you saying? If it's pee, it's what? If it's pee, it ain't me. I got to let you have that one, Ocho. You going to keep that remedy. Oh, you shouldn't even tell nobody that. Now, I've had some. I got to let you have that one on show. You're going to keep that remedy. Oh, you should. You should have told nobody that. Now, I've had some.

I've done the red clay. I've done the DMSO. I've done a lot of. Well, that DMSO will have your mouth smelling like goddamn shit. Yeah. I don't play with that DMSO. Well, no. I bet you don't know how much DMSO I've used.

I had an old teammate that jumped together. I don't know if you probably know jumping, but jumping, man. I don't know what. This joker sprained his ankle, and that joker ankle by the size of a grapefruit. He had this stump in a bottle. He said he got it from home because he gulla. I'm talking about he guchee. I'm talking about Geechee Geechee. I'm talking about like he probably only like one,

two generations that got off the boat in Charleston. Yeah, he that kind of Geechee. He that kind of Gullah. But Ocho, me and Burns, we watch him. He rubbed his stuff on his ankle and then turned it up and drink it.

Well, what do you, what do you add in there? I don't know what it was, but he was able to play on Sunday. He will cut. He will. Now I know I'm country.

I'm like, I'm corn carbon out. But he, he way more country. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes yes and that's saying something man damn man jumping man but he was a man he was a great dude i love playing with jumping oh so check this out you and i both are part of a petition the las vegas because the soup bowl

is gonna be here in vegas and we're part of a petition to get the NFL to relax some of the celebration rules. Now, we understand not the sexual, you know, the gyration and doing all that stuff. That ain't celebrating. That ain't celebrating.

No, no, none of the the throat slash and the six shooters and all that stuff. Nothing that mimics violence. But let the guys become more creative. It is Vegas. And you know, Vegas is a town with a show

that's not truer than the Sammy Davis. All the greats have performed. We got Usher. We got Adele. As a matter of fact, Wu-Tang is about to have a residency out there. So some of the greats... Kelly Clarkson,

Carrie Underwood. A lot of people have had live. Kelly Clarkson. I think Carrie Underwood. A lot of people have had residencies out there. I think they should. Look, go sign the petition. You can find the petition at change.org slash celebration. Go sign this. The NFL players need your support. Support the NFL players for having fun, pushing boundaries, and embodying the spirit of celebration.

Just for this one time, like I said, we ain't going to do no sexual or no sexual gyrations or things like that. We're not going to do anything that mimics violence because we do have kids watching. But hey, guys, come out with your creativity. NFL, let them say, hey. Everybody in the chat,

sign the petition. That's what we need. Matter of fact, in the players, I'm going to have a goddamn orientation for creativity and authenticity so we can come up with some new stuff. Some new stuff that hasn't been repeated and

we're going to get this thing going. We're going to get it going. Right now, the Dolphins are in the lead. Oh, yeah. The Dolphins did the roller coaster. You remember the Titans? Yeah, they did the remember the Titans. And they did a stop the yard.

Yeah, that was a good one. Remember they did a stop the yard with a guy with a name. They threw him and he hit him on his elbow. And that was a good one. Right now the Dolphins are in the lead. That was a good one.

The Dolphins are in the lead. Matter of fact, you know what? I forgot to mention, you just about uh having fun and showmanship and just i went i went to see tonight i went to watch shannon crowder right shannon crowder did his first stand-up comedy tonight at the miami improv so i went to the miami improv to see how he would be shannon crowder but he's already funny just in general so you know get on stage in front of a crowd now that's a whole nother ball game that's a whole nother ball game man this man had me up there i was in tears just tears laughing you know his first stand up and it was just funny to see someone be able to transition from being a football player trying to knock people's heads off to actually being able to sit up there in front of a crowd and engage with delivery about life stories and experiences.

But I don't know why I just thought about that. But, you know, that's what you got your boy that, you know, your boy that your boy been writing some material down that, you know, your boy. Are you good in front of crowds? I know you can speak in front of crowd, but jokes is a different ballgame. Joe, you know, you don't ballgame. I know. can speak in front of crowd, but jokes is a different ball game. Oh, Joe, you don't... It's a different ball game. I know, listen, I'm a jokester too,

but in front of that crowd, what? That shit different. Yeah, yeah. That shit different. Yeah, I got to... Because if they don't bite, you got to get them to bite.

If they bite right away and you reel them in, you good. But if that first joke don't hit like it should, ugh, it's going to hit. Because I got... Because I got... Because if they don to hit. Because I got three off the wrist guaranteed. Oh, you guaranteed the left.

Yeah. What you really mean? Oh, it's a wrap from now. So you can find the petition at change.org slash celebration. That's change.org slash celebration. We need your help. We want these players to celebrate we want to have a good old time at the Super Bowl in Vegas

that thing gonna be lit oh you know what we're doing you know we're working on having a live show why you ain't tell me Thursday we're working on having a live show having guests in Vegas oh man nigga I'm finna put my good shit on Thursday, we're working on having a live show, having guests. In Vegas? In Vegas, yeah.

Oh, man, nigga, I'm finna put my good shit on. Hey, make sure. Matter of fact, listen, we got to have another giveaway. Admit it, life would be boring without me. We got to have another giveaway. What you want to give away?

How many followers do we need to have by Super Bowl? I'm not sure. That's going to be hard. 750. Alright, listen. How about if we're doing a live show in Vegas, how about we fly

two people from the chat or some kind of way and have them come out to the show. I'm not saying go to the goddamn game because I ain't paying for them high-end goddamn football teams. As a matter of fact, I ain't going to the game, but damn, sir. I think it would be dope to be able to treat somebody to

come out to Vegas, to come to the live show or whatnot. Ocho, you know what? You do a great job of giving away our money. I think we need to talk. We need to talk. We need to talk. We do got some balls. Right, right, right.

We got to see what, because, you know, hotel rooms, we got to get hotel rooms, we got to get flights. They can stay with us. Who? Whoever,

whoever, whoever win. Like, I pick one winner, they can stay with me, and the other winner can stay with you. No, they can't stay with me. I'm done. I'm done sleeping.

Hey, you know, you know, I'm saying, you know, I treat the fans right, though. What you mean? Yeah. Like I said, what we're going to do. Oh, let them have the full experience. No, they cannot stay with me. No, they're going to have no full experience. They have to have the full experience of what it's like to live like us.

Because guess what, Ocho? Guess what? So, what happens if somebody pass gas in my room? 80th floor, out the window they go. So, no. No, that ain't happening. No, you not going to be using the bathroom in that

room. No, uh-uh. Nah, I'm the only one. I'm the only one going number two in the bathroom in my hotel room. That's it. How you going to throw up, the idiot flow? Hey, check this out. Ocho, hey, look. When we on the road, we on the road, and they have to come to my room to set up.

Ocho, when they come to my room and they got to set up, they go to their own room to go to the bathroom. I'm the only one. My bathroom is off limits. They say only Shadow Sharp can go here. Hey, man. Boy, you shout out, man. Man, you going to throw the view, bro? Oh, man. Boy, you shot out, man. Man, you gonna throw the view, bro? I'm just saying, I thought it'd be a good look.

Because there's one thing to be able to watch us on the show. One, be able to chime in in the chat. But to actually win tickets to come to Vegas, then get the experience, stand with us, dinner, breakfast, lunch, like chat, talk about life. And like that, that's a, that's a great experience that. Oh, Joe, first of all, I've looked, you don't think I got, I got to work. I got, I got, first of all, I got to work Wednesday. I got to work Thursday. I got to work Friday. I'm going to be working. That's the whole point. Giving them the life experience of what you go through day to day. That's the whole point. Giving them the life experience of what you go through day to day. That's the whole point. Like somebody

just... That ain't all I do day to day. What else you got to do? No. I ain't really... We are in Vegas. What? I might go to the little white chapel. I might get married. I ain't don't tell it hey you know man this man gonna talk about talking about hey what uh

oh man this man talk about staying by room man please but i had a room i had a i know you never had i know you had a roommate in years, but I'm just saying I had slept. I had slept in the same room with somebody since. Because when I first got to the NFL, we had roommates. So you slept in, you know, you slept in a room. And Clarence K was my roommate. Clarence K was my roommate. And then in 93, Wade came and we had we got in.

We got our own. I mean, you could pay to get your own room i was like man i'm too grown i'm too grown to be in a room by myself uh to be in a room with someone else and so i ended up paying and then when mike came in 95 everybody got a room to everybody got a room to themselves but i hadn't had a room oh no i can't i ain't i definitely oh no i mean i'm just listen i'm i'm i'm i don't know i'm a social butterfly man i'm very open uh to things like that matter of fact you probably don't remember if anybody in the chat i know y'all well if you're in the chat you could do your homework i had a friend a homeless

guy by the name of porkchop who was a friend of mine i met him i forgot what year it was but he came up to me walked up to me man asked me for them hey can I get a beer I'm like a beer matter of fact I'm gonna make sure you get a beer I went in there I bought him a whole case of beer and we met on a Monday I swear for god I tell you no lie me and Porkchop became friends and we were inseparable for about two to three years every day on I hung out with a homeless man got him cleaned up no shouting up man and we went everywhere together man strip club all type of stuff um and chat if you if you just google pork chop and Ocho or Chad Johnson you'll see the story you

that is to use it as group love I took? I took him to the... Listen, he had a thousand wands. I say, chop. You got to take the wands and you throw them in the air like this. I go get my food and bite my burger. I look back, man, it's a picture on the internet. Somebody

could find it. Instead of him throwing the money, he got wads of cash stuffing it in his pocket because you know he ain't used to having no money he was legit homeless and he's after some beer and from that day on dude every day i would go to south beach we would eat at davis cafe and i got so comfortable with him i had brought him to the big house i had brought him to the big house had him sleeping in one in one of the rooms because the kids were now they were older now they weren't there had this big ass house all these rooms and nobody was there so i was like fuck it and then he fucking upped

him with the new orleans and i ain't seen him since yeah yeah i like you know uh the uh uh strip joys got some good food magic city hey. Hey, listen, Tussies. Them chicken tenders at Magic City. I don't go to Atlanta often. And that fried catfish. I don't go to Atlanta often, so I don't know anything about their chicken wings, but I know one thing. Over at Tussies. Well, next time you go,

we going to, hey, Madge, I know you watching. I know Madge. Magic City, name it. Madge, I'm'm gonna bring ocho in there set it out for man you know i get them i get them hey ain't nothing like them chicken tenders and that fried catfish with a side of booty juice what booty juice you know the girl be dancing they got the dance oh okay okay okay okay okay bands will make them okay i thought i thought booty juice was like a drink or something. I thought it was a drink. It is.

The way they be sweating up in there, then you be drinking, Ocho. You be drinking. I don't know if you've been to Tootsie's or not, but obviously, upstairs, listen, no. Man, listen,

the food at Tootsie's is phenomenal. I always go to Tootsie's. I always go to Tootsie's. The seafood rice and lobster tail. The seafood rice and lobster tail. The seafood rice and lobster tail. I'm allergic to shellfish. Oh, shit. For real?

I was just joking. Now, look. When I'm eating, ain't nobody dancing over the food. I was just joking. Because, man, they're going to be like, man, man, sharp. Man, got the dog over the food. He got girls dropping. Got booty over the food and everything.

Because you know how y'all are. I know how y'all are. Yeah, man. Hey, that, you don't, you don't. But I do be eating in there. I do be eating. I do be,

man, that thing be hot. I heard about the wings. What's the player, what's the player that got in trouble for getting the wings? Oh, oh, oh, Lemon Pepper Lou?

Yeah, Lemon Pepper Lou. Lou. Yeah, that's when I, that's when I heard about the wings. I got, I got, I got to check that out. In Atlanta, Magic City? Magic City. Yeah, that's when I heard about the wings. I gotta check that out. And Magic City?

Magic City. Yeah, Atlanta, right down the street, man. I don't, I ain't, I've been to Atlanta maybe four times, and two of those would have played the goddamn Falcons. Yeah, but see, you need some time. But you know, Magic City, they got Blue Flame, they got Scrokers, they used to have

Body Tap, they used to have a – what's the other one? What's the other one out there on Beaufort Highway? Ooh, there's another one on Beaufort Highway. I can't think of it. I should have – but, boy, back in my younger days, back in my younger days. I mean, it sounds like you know what you're talking about. It sounds like you were just there last week. The way you –

No, I wasn't there last week. But, you know, you got the Cheetah. You got Pink Pony. The Gold Club used to be way you the way you know i wasn't there last week but you know you got the cheetah you got pink pony the gold club used to be yeah yeah shooters alley yeah yeah yeah yeah you used to make your rounds huh yeah you oh joe man you know i'm a country boy i don't know nothing about oh so when i go when i when i like you don't know nobody but you know all the names i know all the names but then you know in denver you know denver you had mile high you had diamond cabaret you had the pink bone i mean you had a uh what was it my no mile high what's the one that uh jaw went to i think jaw with the diamond cabaret or the uh the one on on um colorado i don't know right there in cherry in cherry in cherry creek

shotgun willie that's real that's a real name that's real yeah yeah yeah shotgun willies well y'all well y'all y'all yeah right there but my house my favorite see my my high my high used to be my favorite i go ahead'd go off in the cut. They were thick. Wait, hold on. How'd you go off in the cut and it's thick? You got to... No, I'm saying the women.

In Denver? Huh? That's the Midwest. Wait, and... You know they corn-free. They corn-free. Corn-free. In Denver?

Now, what I'm saying. I'm talking about 5'10", 175. Remember, 180, you ain't a lady. Hold on. All right, listen. I'm not trying to be funny. I don't frequent Denver much. Really, I can't remember the last time I've been to Denver except to play Champ Bailey years ago.

But when I think of what you just said in reference to our healthy women, I think of Houston. I think of Atlanta. Yeah. I think of Miami. Yeah. I think of Texas. But see, it's a different flavor. Now, when you go to Atlanta, when you go to Atlanta, okay, you go to Magic City.

You go to Stoker's. You go to the Blue Flame. Body tap closed down. Used to go to Foll's, Shooter Alley. Now, you go to the Cheetah. You go to Pink Pony. They modeling. They doing lingerie. Okay, okay.

Nah. If I'm going to get five for the top, five for the bottom, I need it all dropping. I need you to get low. Shawty get low. Come on with it now. We ain't doing nothing. This ain't no Victoria's Secret. We ain't doing no Molly, no lingerie.

I need you to come up out of it. I got to tell you. See, I don't frequent the strip club either. I got to take me a trip to Atlanta, man. I got to take me a trip to Atlanta. Man, Ocho, I can't look. I can't look. I can't.

Oh, Ocho, what bet I think I can't look. I can't look. I can't. Oh, Raph. Ocho, what you doing? What you doing? Oh, man. I can't look, Ocho. I can't look no more. Hey, Rell. Rell, I know you in the chat.

Rell, we got to go to Atlanta, baby. I'm trying to see what I'm talking about. Matter of fact. Man, Ocho. Hold on. Ocho, man. I need to write the name of these places down. So I'm going to hit all I'm talking about. Matter of fact, I need to write the name of these places down, so I'm going to hit all

of them in the same night. Magic City is first. Strokers. Blue Flame. Hold on, baby. Hold on. I got my journal right here, now. I got my journal. What's the first one? Magic City, number one. Anywhere in the world, if you go

anywhere, Magic City, number one. Magic City, one. Anywhere in the world. If you go anywhere, Magic City number one. Magic City. Strokers. Strokers, okay. Blue Flame. A strip club called Blue Flame? Yeah, yeah. That should sound good. Blue Flame. Okay, bet.

What we got? Now, if you want the... I'm from Miami. Don't send me Now, if you want they modeling Nah, I ain't with that. I'm from Miami. I don't need to tell you about WM. Don't send me to Atlanta to half-step, man. I'm going to Atlanta to backslide.

Okay. Magic City, Strokers, and Blue Flag. Okay, just them three. That's enough. Oh, no, there's another. Oasis. Who? I think Oasis. Yeah, Oasis. That's a movie. Yeah, there's another Oasis. Who? I think Oasis. Yeah, Oasis. That's a movie. Over there, yeah, off of Chester Bridge.

Chester, oh. Look at Oasis. Oasis, okay. But you know, back in the day, see, I'd be out there on Beaufort Highway, on Shooter's Alley and Follies. You know, you'd be up in the class. And see what I do, Ocho? See, I wasn't supposed to be at the places. So what I do, I go

out there and I give me some gas. I put a little bit on my hands. Knock that on smoke. Knock that on perfume. I go in the face like a little gas. What happened? I said, yeah, you know. My boy ran out of gas.

I put that little bit. I like that. That's a good bit. That's a good one, Rod. I like that. That's a good maneuver. That's a good maneuver. I'm happy you see the angle work. See, I don't be outside the house, so there's certain things I really can't get away with. And if my routine changes, then her antenna is going to be up.

That's why. That's why. If I'm a good, if I'm a doer, I'm a doer with her. Me and Ocho. I'm a doer. Ocho. Ocho, me and Ocho, we going. Yeah.

We going to Magic. We going to hear Strokers. We going to hear Blue Flame. Hey. Hey, you know, we going to make it. She worse than me. Like, we could go somewhere. Man, she attack me and be like, boy, look at all that ass over there.

Well. That's what I'm looking for. But she'll tap me and be like, boy, look at all that ass over there. Well. That's what I'm looking for. But she worse than me. Like, that's... Damn, man. I know when I... Boom. Guarantee you,

when I see her these names, I guarantee you, before we do the next show. When the next show? Sunday, right? Sunday. No, Saturday. They got three games Saturday.

Okay. We gonna make it that soon. Before we do the show Monday, I guarantee you, me and her done been to them goddamn games Saturday. Okay. We gonna make it that soon. Before we do the show Monday, I guarantee you me and Huddin' been to them goddamn three places. Watch. We gonna squeeze it in before Christmas. I don't know how you gonna go, because we got, think about it, Ocho, we got Saturday, Sunday, and Monday.

Oh, three days in a row? Well, you know what? I might be doing one of these shows from goddamn, from Oasis. And man... I might do the show from Magic City. O man, I might do the show for Magic City. Ain't it something about a woman with a nice body and a sun dress?

And that thing bouncing like a basketball couldn't have and that thing just jumping when they walk. I ain't never heard that one. Like they got two basketballs cut in half and this stuff back there and when they walk. I know what you're talking about

girl if you can cook I'll marry you perfect right on the spot right on the spot old Joe tell me you can cook tell me you can cook oxtail

neck bone pig feet listen pig tail tell me you can cook something women be so fine in the strip club man you just walk

you walk up to them sometime and you just whisper in the ear. Why are you in here doing this? Yeah. Why are you in here doing this? I mean, basically from the naked eye, from the naked eye. Take care of you right now. You look perfect.

Where'd you go wrong? I ain't got a blemish on him. Where did you go wrong, honey? I don't know what happened, but that ain't my, look here. I ain't going to be Dr. Phil. I'm not going to be Ayala. I ain't here to get your counseling come on with it now let's go let's go to wafa let's go get something to eat let's go get something to eat i know you're hungry hey listen mama let you know the first right around the corner now you ain't got to be in here

yeah what what you need i know i be here. Yeah. What you need? I know. I know you got students. I know you got student loans. Girl, let me put your mind at ease for a couple of months. There's a couple. I mean, you ain't got to worry about. You ain't got to work in them.

You want to you want to be a CNA? I can see. I can see. I can pay for your class at that. Yeah. But I told y'all what she told me I would go to real estate. Man, she was

so proud of her hair. Take your mama with you. Both of y'all still houses. That's how it was, don't y'all. Yeah, take your mama with you man let's get back on track for you to get me going man you got people's bad man man you see how he be steve kerr says draymond Green's suspension makes sense. It's more than basketball.

It's about helping Draymond. It's an opportunity for Draymond to step away and make a change. The answer is not a quick pick a number of games. The answer is to help Draymond. The one who troked Rudy, the one who took the wild flail, the one that punched Jordan last year, that's the guy who needs to change. Oh, shit. Steve, you're his head coach. the one that punched Jordan last year that's the guy who needs to change Steve you're his head coach

you remember what I said Ocho what's one of my favorite sayings you never accept anything in a win you win in a loss when he was winning these championships he never spoke out this strongly about Draymond when he was when he was high kicking when he thought he was a rock

and he kicking Stephen Adams in the groin, you ain't hear a word. When he was winning the championship, when he fell his leg up, he didn't say a word. I told you, you never accept anything in a win, you win in a loss. And now they done started to lose it. Now all of a sudden it's an issue.

Now when he punched Jordan Poole last year, you're sitting a man away for one game. One game. Boy, you're suspending him on a game? Now, all of a sudden, oh, it's justified. It makes sense. It's not about a certain number of games. It's about

Draymond. When was this? Well, I mean, you didn't want to give Draymond no help when it first started? I mean you know when I think about it obviously I don't before you go I'm not saying

that it's the Warriors or Steve Kerr Draymond did this Draymond bears culpability Draymond is responsible for Draymond's behavior but I don't want people that's going to be like all of a sudden they're so concerned

about Draymond when they allow this behavior to grow. You let Frankenstein, you let him create this. So, I mean, this is what you get now. The funny thing about it is Draymond has always been Draymond. Do I condone some of the actions that he's done?

Absolutely not. Obviously Draymond, a friend ofaymond do I condone some of the actions that he's done absolutely not uh obviously Draymond a friend of mine but I don't condone those actions but when they were winning everything was okay now that they're losing everything is magnified because some of the things that he's doing is not helping the team win in any way so obviously it's something that they can harp on what takes the attention away from the fact that the team is also losing and you still doing some of the things that are being a distraction and not helping us win. Obviously, Draymond now being suspended indefinitely until he gets the help that the league sees fit and that obviously the Warriors see fit as well before he makes his return. And when he comes back, I just want to make sure he's not a shell of himself i want to make sure he's still the same draymond the same enforcer type defensive mentality take no shit type draymond that he is i hope getting the help that he the

people says he needs obviously it doesn't take away from who he is as a basketball player and a defender? I just think the thing is, Ocho, is that I would have thought he said, I'm not saying anything. I'm not making this up. He said that he cost his team a championship by getting suspended for game five in the 2016 NBA final. That's what he said. Yes, against LeBron. So if that was the case and you

say you're never gonna cost your team again why would you put yourself back in that situation now i get it this is not the nba finals but your team they need you now you see they bitched uh andrew wiggins the fourth quarter clay didn't it's like's like... It's seeming like it's going to hell in a handbasket because this isn't the same team. Guys aren't playing up... Steph is Steph is Steph. Steph is Steph. And so...

But this right here, I just... I just look. I just think... And even Gil was on last night and a lot of people said they don't believe Draymond could be Draymond without these antics

that's why I just said what I said because I think the antics and the enforcer type mentality, similar to hockey, you know, our hockey players, you know, they have enforcers, you know, on the teams. I think if you take some of that away from him, I think it takes away who Draymond really is.

He can still be Draymond Green without, you know, the chokeholds and the accidental slaps and the knee into the groin, stuff like that. I think if he can still remain his true authentic self and what makes him special, because he's a special player, no matter what people may think about him. He played in the wrong era. He needs to be in the 80s and 90s era. He needs to be playing with Oakley and Mason and Xavier Mcavier mcdaniel yeah rick mahorn bill lambert marcus johnson he need to be kermit why he need to be with those guys because in this era you know david stern put a stop to that he's like okay y'all want to fight i'm gonna take all your money

and adam silver's just followed up but out adam is a little is a little bit more lenient and a little bit more tolerant and a little bit more understanding than David Stern. That's why so many of the players, they really like Adam, because Adam is trying to make sure his best players stay out on the floor. But I don't think I mean, when you when you back him into a corner, he doesn't have any choice. Right. I mean, even though this was a Joe D, Joe Dumars, this was his decision. He's the EVP of personal conduct and things of that nature. I don't really know

where Joe D was supposed to go with this. He had no choice. I mean, you tried to pull away, but bro, you cold-cocked the man. That's crazy. Did Nurkic sell it? Oh, of course. know you trying to pull away but bro you you cold cocked a man yeah that that's not yeah did did did did did nurkish sell it oh of course of course i mean obviously you would know better than i

than i would how long do you think he would have to to be out or how long is sufficient or what do they consider efficient enough even though it's in indefinitely, how much time is needed, especially what if the team, what if the team continues to struggle and they, they, they need him back. I'm just saying all,

all those things you should have thought about before you did the act. Um, I think it's going to probably be a man of 10 games. I'm saying a minimum of 10 okay um wait he's indefinitely suspended with pay though right oh no oh they didn't took them they didn't took the money too no no we used to no only only government officials only only the police can get suspended with pay hell no you know damn well if you're a professional athlete you get suspended you ain't getting the pockets too yeah man that that'll get you right together quick boy that ain't gonna get him right because he done been he done been fired so much that'll get

you right together quick but well you know you know nba nba nba dudes they got they nba dudes got that fuck you money nba dudes got that fuck you money you know I want to keep mine I I mean but I think it's different because you know as a football player who you gonna fight on the field Ocho I got on helmet I got on pants

I ain't gonna do nothing but break my hand break a finger or something I ain't hurt him not one time ain't hurt him one time now obviously it't heard him one time. Now, obviously it's different for basketball players because they right there. But, you know, Gil's like, man, we're not really trying to fight. We ain't trying to talk like that.

Nah, we're not. And I get it. I get it. You know, everybody selling wolf tickets. I'm bad. Hold me. Hey, hold me. Hold me now. Don't let me go. Don't let me just... I get it. I get it. I get the arm distance arm distance of it you know something bad might happen something gonna happen but uh this is what this was the action that the nba had to take given his history and he's like well and draymond is saying well you know man i've been you know you keep holding my past against me

i was suspended for those games draymond that's how it works you're what they call a repeat offender that's and as you you keep repeating the act the sentence should get harsher a a repeat offender that gets a dui the sentence gets harsher you know the first time okay they might give you fine and probation the next time they're probably going to take your license the next time after, they're probably going to take your license. The next time after that, you're probably going to do some time in jail. So, yeah, that's how it goes. And that's how it should go. I'm glad I don't drink.

Draymond has now been suspended four times in 2023 alone. And March 1st, he got his 16th technical foul and April 1st for stepping on Sabonis. November 5th, putting Rudy Gobert in the headlock. December, December indefinitely for striking Rudy Gobert.

Well, see, the thing was, but see, here's the thing. Rudy Gobert should be suspended too because I done had to whip them. Y'all let them man jump me. Y'all let them man jump me. Y'all let them man jump me. Ain't nobody come to my defense. You see how quick Draymond ran to Klay's defense?

Fight everybody. Yeah, man. Man, what kind of bull jive is that, Ocho? Nobody want no smoke with Draymond, man. You ain't noticed that yet? Think about it. Have you seen anybody challenge him yet? I haven't seen anybody challenge him yet.

But my thing is, okay, Draymond is a separate issue. There must be something about Draymond that we don't know. Because he has always been the enforcer and nobody seemed to want that smoke. I'm just saying. I'm not condoning it. I'm not condoning the actions. I'm just saying it looked like he wanted to smoke whatever. And if you had to walk through a motherfucking dark alley

and there was somebody you were going to pick in the NBA, you're going to want Draymond. Oh, yeah, right now. But that's how it was with oak you remember oak would play and i know oak was a person for 25 years that's how crazy they still and they want to oh but you know and they had all they had oh they had x man i think x man might have been there for like one year but i think he left like when oak got there. They had Mason. Derrick Mason? Not Derrick Mason. Anthony Mason. Anthony Mason.

Yeah. Charles Smith. Yeah, but you know, they had, in Miami, they had Zoe. They had them tough guys. Hey, Lazo always fighting somebody, man, back then, man. Zoe was always fighting. Remember, that was the Knicks. That was the Knicks, wasn't it?

Yeah, that was, yeah. The Knicks had X and Ewing and Charles Smith. Anthony Mason. Yeah, but that was but see and see what they say now. That wasn't basketball. Just because someone is physical doesn't mean they're right. Right, right, right. And see people like, oh, they were tough.

That's not basketball. I mean, that's very and the oh the bad boy pistons oh the bad boy pistons started his book just started my horn lamb beard yeah sally rodman wait john sally was on that team yeah i ain't know that sally was there absolutely okay okay sound was there them boy them boy there man fighting everything no basketball everything everything man they and guess what back then they didn't really call no flagrants they're just like okay get up play go shoot the free throw that was a foul hard foul when when uh

kevin mckayle snatched kevin rambo's ass out there they ain't throw nobody out. If I'm not mistaken, when Karl Malone opened up that gash on Isaiah, hit him upside the head with an elbow, 44 stitches. Damn. Opened him up like a fresh melon. I wanted us to remember where they really was throwing back in the day.

I didn't in the day. Now, it wasn't no bull job. I didn't see, I didn't, I didn't see in the footage. I didn't see in the footage and I know them boys ain't play. That's why it's,

yeah, oh, no, that's when I, when I think about some of the stuff that Draymond is doing, it's almost

damn near child's play to some of the clips from back then when them boys was playing. Oh, yeah. Child, child's play. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. But back then, you couldn't woof like that because they're going to see if you really bought that. Most definitely. They're going to see if you really bought that. You're standing on all 10 toes if you acting a fool back then. Business.

Business. All business. Anthony Edwards says he wears fake jewelry because he doesn't want to spend the money people gonna think it's real anyways because it's me i've been he's taking the page out of the auto preaching the same thing for 25 years i've been preaching the same thing for 25 years we as a people we find value in the things that we can purchase and attain outside of seeing us as the true value. See, when they make a watch or they make a car or they make whatever it might be materialistic,

right? That individual places the value or the price tag on what it is that they want to. And because the price tag is high. Or it might be high end. We buy it. And wear it. And that is how we view our value. And our image. Based on how much we spend on shit. That shit means nothing.

Who are you when you take off that watch? Who are you when you take off that motherfucking chain? Who are you when you take off them fancy motherfucking. Shades and clothes and shoes? Well my chain real. And I and i ain't taking off i'm looking to add to it my watch real my bracelet real so y'all can listen to ocho if y'all want to and the best of luck to y'all but i'm not gonna work hard i love you baby i love you you hear me i know you're gonna see this too boy i'm not look listen it's okay to have real pieces. Even I got real pieces. I have real pieces.

I'm saying getting lost in the sauce. Hey, how many, what's the, what percentage of us go broke when we done playing? Two years. Just two years after we done. What percentage? Just stay with me, baby. Stay with me now. But it's 87, but a lot of that has to be.

Ocho, but here's the thing. You get a divorce because here's the thing. The worst thing about a divorce, they take half the money and all the hoo-ha. That's not a good trade-off. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? You got to leave something. You see what I'm doing?

You heard what you just said, and you understand why I'm playing chess over here? That's why I ain't signing the papers. You see what I'm talking about? papers. You see what I'm talking about? Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Did you put, did you put that out there? That's what it is.

What's that? What is talking about? As I say, we might have a giveaway to nominate someone to help with chat moderations to help Ash because y'all keep her busy. Hey, last night, Ocho, we had this one guy before we... Hold on, where is it at? Did you take that out? Oh, Brandon is back.

We had this guy named Brandon, and we've been blocking him, and he's been begging, asking people for money, and we asked Brandon to get his begging ass off the chat last night. Lil Tank. There's somebody named Lil... Not the Lil Tank, but everybody started that. When Lil Tank won the first time,

everybody came with Lil Tank, and he back spamming again, even though I'm in block. So, Ash has accepted a mod application. So, to help us, DM Nightcap on IG. Y'all blocked Lil Tank and Brandon?

Yeah, blocked the hell out of them. They thought I was Jonathan Ogden or Trent Williams, the way we block their ass so oh let me ask you then you could have one thing free for life which are you choosing flights food concert tickets gas room, clothes and shoes. Probably flights. You got your damn mind. Give me food.

What? If I could get something free for the rest of my life. Flights, food, concert tickets, gas, hotel room, clothes. I see. Okay. Well, you got to understand. I'm coming from a place of already ownership as far as businesses go i own three mcdonald's franchises so obviously i don't need food because i can eat for free there so the first thing i'm flying all the time when it comes

to work kids boom you're all on you're all on spirit you're playing 995 to fly so hell why you want to play why you want that for free for the rest of your life you spend 27 you can go from goddamn heaven to hell for $27. If I can go to heaven to hell for $27, think what would happen if I could fly for free and save that $27 and it can go elsewhere. Like on a manicure pedicure. Manicure pedicure. Plan B. Manicure pedicure.

Plan B, you never know. Plan B, what you buying plan B for? For real. What you need plan B for? Because she be mounting me when she want to. Oh. Okay.

And I ain't got no say so. Man, go on and free Willy. Shit. Nah. Mm-mm. She thinks she's... Make, I got, populate.

Go ahead and get another one. And another. Another who? Who? Shit me. Not today. Mm-hmm. God has got you.

Well, I tell you what, this is what I do for your show. You always want to do something. Okay, you have a baby in 24. I have a baby in 24. What? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Let's go ahead and do the thing.

Let's do the thing. Let's rewind back a little bit. Let's rewind back a little bit. How you going to have a baby and I'm still trying to find your woman? Okay, well, so do you find her? Hey, you don't take part.

I've been trying to find her the past two and a half months we've been on this goddamn show and you just turn everybody down. Well, maybe you got somebody you don't want to tell me and maybe I should be taking the goddamn hint.

Like, hey, I really got somebody. You have one, I have one. All right. All right, have one. All right. All right. Say less. All right. Bet. All right. Bet. I got you.

You let me know when you start and I'm going to start. Ain't matter for you. You know what? I've been practicing. I've been practicing for years. Let us know what you think. Ladies and gentlemen, if you had a choice, you could have one thing free for life.

What are you choosing? Flights, food, concert tickets, gas, hotel room, shoes and clothes. Oh, Joe, check this out. There's a story that's resurfaced of a woman who donated her kidney to her boyfriend, who then cheated

and dumped her. He cheated on her just seven months later. God damn. Wait a minute. Bring it to me again. She donated her kidney to him. Her kidney. He was on dialysis, which i heard is very very

painful you have to get your blood you know the impurities out of your blood and some people have to do it every day some people do it like i think every day maybe every other day every you know every couple of days but anywhere it's very painful unless you get a transplant well he needed a transplant she was a match she gave him her kidney he ended up cheating on her and dumping her whoa whoa in that situation you got to ride it out right what out right but we go no we're going we're going to motherfucking court you finna give me my kidney back we go on the court you finna give me my kidney back i nobody do about a dude. I know about a dude. True story. And I mean no disrespect. I'm not trying to make fun of nobody.

But dude was dating a girl. She got in a car accident. She got in a car accident and she became paralyzed from the waist down. Paralyzed. Yeah, from the waist down. Right. Man, for some reason,

she still had her senses though. Man, he bought a wheelchair. Helped her learn how to walk the best that he could get her back to walking, but still in the wheelchair. Nigga, she walked out of his life. You mean

rolled out of his life? Okay, my bad. Rolled out of his life and cheated and left him for somebody else. Yeah! How did he not see that coming they had to pick up and take Well, you had to answer the guard what you had to answer the guard Oh, I would be serious. Oh Joe If I'm with someone and they give me

a kidney, I'm like Emperor Penguins. I'm like Bald Eagle. We together forever. If I'm with my partner and she has an accident and she's paralyzed, she's my responsibility. I got her.

I got her. That's crazy. I couldn't even good conscience to live with myself that ain't love though man that's that puppy love man that's that puppy love you know that's how you're able to get up and leave and do some of the things that

that have happened you know when you look at the age of some of the people or situations that are in situations like this that ain't love. It's all about convenience and opportunity at that point. When you're that young, it's about convenience and opportunity and what situation best fits me at that time. If a better situation comes along, guess where I'm going? I'm out.

I'm out. And when we get to the point where we have an understanding there will always be somebody better than the person that I'm with. Always. Yeah, for sure. Always. For sure. It's going to be somebody finer.

It's going to be somebody with more money. It's going to be somebody taller. It's going to be somebody richer. It's going to be somebody with more car. Whatever it may be. Hold on, hold on. Tell me about what you're saying. So you be telling me right now

if I meet somebody and then there might be somebody out there that's finer, that can cook, that look better, got more money, all four of them things together, I got to go there. I just playing, I just playing. Nah, nah, nah, I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing.

I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm play it. Nah, nah, nah. I'm just playing. I mean, look. Do I like a woman that can cook? I mean, my last relationship,

that mofo was a chef. You name it, you cook it. We could go to a restaurant. She gonna come home the next day and cook anything right right right oxtail neck bone mac and cheese anything she could cook it it's weird i don't know what's wrong me i i i'm i'm not one that requires someone to cook i don't even like i don't i don't I don't even... I didn't know she could. I don't like real in the kitchen.

I mean, man, come on, man. If I always say... Listen, if I want to... And people always talk about, why you always eating out? Why you and her always going to eat out? I say, well, motherfucker,

if I wanted to motherfucking date a... If I wanted a chef, I would have dated one. Yeah. I just... I like them in the kitchen. I like them in the kitchen wearing something sexy.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I like them in the kitchen wearing something sexy. I don't care for it because don't run up my... Turn that stove off right quick. I got something for you. Don't run up my light bill. Don't run up my electricity bill. Fuck all that.

Man, we can go out to eat. I mean, you don't want to... Oh, you ain't nothing like coming in the kitchen. You know, you come up from behind. Right, right. You know, like... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What's your name? You know what I mean? You ain't always got the... Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You want to die? Yeah, you got to make sure. Ain't nobody coming. Ain't nobody sure. Ain't nobody coming.

Ain't nobody coming. I got to try that. I got to try that. Yeah, man. I got to try that. I hate when the kids will come over. Your kids go. Your kids go.

You know, it's hard. It's hard. You know, we got too many kids. You know, it's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you know yeah yeah it's it's rough around these parts you know but i keep i i'm in my room i keep it i keep it i keep the door closed yeah i got you keep the door closed because you know you don't say they're coming there you don't see something they ain't supposed to see i know it's talking about

yeah i've been there before i've been there before. I've been there before. Yeah. Catch the old man trampolining. Hey, boy. Ocho, let me ask you this. That's the worst feeling. Go ahead. What are you going to say, Ocho?

I would just get ready to say, I know it's inappropriate. We a family. Your kids ever called you, Ocho? Oh, yeah. By accident? They called you? You think you locked yeah. By accident. They called you? You think you locked the door?

Did you lock the door? Yeah. And you turn and you hear the squeak of the door and you stop and you pause and they just got that look. Where's that goddamn door? So ass out of here, man. I got caught too? I got caught too. I got caught too, Ocho.

That's a bad feeling. Yeah, yeah. That's a bad feeling. You feel really bad, man. But you know, he came in and dabbed his daddy like that. God damn, man.

Yeah, yeah. I keep telling you, boy, ain't nothing slow about your old man. Nobody walk. Ain't nothing slow about me, but walk. I don't slow down a little bit. I ain't nothing slow about your old man. But it won't. It's not slow about me, but it won't. Got to slow down a little bit. I ain't fast like I was once, but hey.

You know, man, you know, I had to smoke one of them diamonds in me too, Ocho. Oh, yeah. You know, I put them bad old diamonds, Ocho. Because I've been on them diamonds. I've been on them diamonds when they first came out. Yeah, Ocho. Well, I'm talking about, Ocho, I'm talking about,

I was like, I got to try that. I got to try that. Oh, Ocho. Man, the first time. I'm talking about, I'm talking about my 20s. The first time, Ocho.

Well, you were taking them things way back then. You don't need it back then. Oh, Ocho. Ocho, they definitely see I want to, Ocho, you know what I'm saying?

I want to be right. Right, right, right, right right because it's the first time right right first time you know you got you got to leave that impression yeah yeah and also i pop that thing yeah so you know i get up to go to the bathroom i come back she's looking up under the bed she look at all in the closet she's walking in the hall i said girl what you doing she said who in the hell help you because ain't no way somebody you did that by yourself i said get off of me that would be hard what god what god what god i said what you doing oh yo she all up in the bed in the closet in the hallway she said somebody helped you ain't no way way no one person did

what you just did. Man, you got to tip. You got to tip. Send me a prescription. I got to get me a prescription for them things. Get that liquid.

That liquid. They made that liquid a little stronger. That thing hit you quick. On the tongue or underneath? Right up on your tongue. Where the motel

is going to take about 30 to 45. Right. That liquid hit that thing. Right away. Get right in where the motel is going to take about 30 to 45 that legal hitter got thankful right away get right into the transmission harder than the times of 29 what

yeah y'all look at that that's the great depression that's what happened the year the great depression happened in 29 that's how hard them things had right right Ocho I'm ready I'm going to try that Y'all look at that. That's the Great Depression. That's what happened the year the Great Depression happened in 29. That's how hard them things had to be. Right.

All right. Right, Ocho. I'm ready. I'm going to try that. I'm going to try that. Ocho, if you and your friend have planned a trip

and it's 13 hours away and they want to drive. Whoa. Right down. They want to drive. Who's driving 13 hours? Let's start down. Are you wrong for wanting to fly to meet them there?

Or should you like take that trip with them? I ain't taking shit. No motherfucking 13 hours, especially no goddamn drive. Now, I don't know. Y'all should have been saving your goddamn money up so we can cut the motherfucking. We could cut the travel time in half because hell no. 13 hours? I ain't driving shit.

I ain't driving. Listen, it ain't happening. I'm getting on that flight. Yeah, they already know me. Now, my brother, my brother drive 10 hours, 14 hours. He like road trips.

Some people love the scenic route. I can't do it. I can't do it. Oh, Joe. I fly from LA to San Diego. That's a 10-minute flight. I don't care. By the time they tell you to fasten your seatbelt, by the time they give you the instruction,

you by the lane. Yeah. Oh, man. When I was younger i could probably do probably about four or five hours because i would drive to daytona you know but i i can't no hell no so you're like okay nah we're gonna either i'm gonna fly and meet y'all there but are we not going because i'm not riding no 13 hours. That's long. That's very long. You know what? If it's the boys, okay, let's just say it's me,

Bucket, Burns, Foots, House, Croc. If it's like five, a plate. If it's about six of us, seven of us, and we in a big old, like, one of those touring buses. Like a mad bus. like one of those uh uh touring buses like the job like like we're

gonna like a mad bus like yeah yeah something like that okay i yeah that that that that chain that changes changes the narrative a little bit but if it's just like if it's just like two of us oh hell no hell to the no oh oh joe did you see this in meridian, Idaho? People waited up to eight hours, including camping overnight for the first in and out opening in Meridian, Idaho. I didn't see that, but that's expected in and out as huge as the huge chain, especially in L.A. And I've had in and out before I've had in-N-Out before. I've had In-N-Out before. It is very good. It is very good and it pains me to even say that and even admit that

knowing that my allegiance and my love for McDonald's by In-N-Out is very good so I can understand people being camped out. I ain't waiting that out. I ain't waiting that out. The only thing I'm waiting that out

is for us to get into heaven. That's a good one, Lack. That's the only thing I'm waiting for. You know what? It ain't going to take that long because there ain't no no, sir. The only thing I'm waiting eight hours for is to get into heaven. That's a good one, man. That's the only thing I'm going to wait for. You know what? It ain't going to take that long because there ain't no point in getting in heaven if they're going to make you wait eight hours. I'm just going to see. He's going to have to tell me I ain't coming in because I damn sure ain't going to leave if it's cloudy. He's going to have to tell me.

It's one thing about it. If you're going to heaven, you ain't got the way to get in there. Well, you don't. Nah, you ain't got it. So if I got to heaven, you ain't got the way to get in there. Well, you don't. Nah, you ain't got... So if I got to wait, that means I ain't going to get in, huh? Yeah, sometimes. If it's a wait... Well, he might change his mind.

You know, we change it. He might change his mind. You know, he's going to have some questions now when you get to that gate. Like... Wait, yeah. What? Like that joke about that lady in that wheelchair. Talking about somebody had to kick her.

What? Whoa, no, no. I'm like... No, no, no, no, no. I didn't beat it like that, Lord. I didn't beat it kill you. No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. I didn't beat it like that, Lord. I didn't beat it like that. Oh, shit. Oh, that was funny. Fan questions. Ronald Williams says, my wife really loves the frames

you wear. Do you have a frame line? If not, you should start one. In the meantime, would you mind sharing where you buy them? Ronald? These frames and lenses I have on? I saw the five. What that five mean? With three zeros.

Okay, okay. I like that. That's tortoise. That's tortoise. You got, that's the tortoise finish on that one. Oh, look at the whole job. Look at the whole job. Look at the whole job.

Yeah. Yeah. I see you. I see you with a tortoise finish. That's exactly what it's called. It's called tortoise. Brant, Brian,

a love lady asked, why can't a high school player go straight to the league in football? If anyone could have done it, uh, Adrian Peterson could have done it. He got his head broken. He wasn't even into his body yet. Well, you need that lifting and maturity into the body to develop first, man. This ain't the NBA. Man, them girls, them girls, man. This ain't the NBA. Man, them grown men.

Yeah, NBA is more of a skill. The NFL is more of a will. Now, you need to be skilled, but you need the will. That's grown men, man. That's grown men. They're grown men. And the NFL has a rule

that you got to be at least 20 years of age or you got to be you're the graduating class whatever the case may be um some people have fought it uh i think maurice claret tried to fight it he ended up i mean he he didn't win um but nah i i don't know i i don't believe i i hate to say it couldn happen, but I'm gonna have to see it to believe it. Oh, Joe. Yeah. Oh, Joe.

Maybe now there's not the physicality that it was back in the day. Probably now. And if there was a time it could happen, it is definitely now because the way they've handicapped the game. You damn right. Yeah. Zach and Cam Newton really offended folks with his comments on game managers versus difference makers. You damn right. Yeah. Zach Ian said, Cam Newton really offended folks with his comments on game managers

versus difference makers. I don't think it's taken so long. What do you guys think? I think Cam is entitled to his opinion. I think. But here's the thing. When Brady said that the game and the play, everybody commended him.

Cam said something like, oh, I can't believe he said that um we just got to get out for me Ocho I believe you can be a good player without being elite and I think the thing is that they play either you're elite or you're bum

and it's like well what about all the area in between can a player fall in between there I played in the i played in the 90s and i played into the early 2000s every quarterback wasn't elite every quarterback wasn't above that still goes for today i mean we talk we talk we talk about it on here all the time there are different tiers they're they're tier one you have elite you have you have your elites who are the tier ones you have your tier twos and you have the tier threes that's just the way the game goes and they go and it goes like that for every single position i'm not sure what

they're all up in arms about uh cam is a former quarterback nfl quarterback at that not just a quarterback he's a former nfl nfl mvp so rookie of the year i'm sure he knows exactly what he's talking about some people are going to agree and that And that's that's that's that's the great thing about life in general. When you have when you when you have a topic that that people are able to have an opinion on. Sometimes you can agree. Sometimes you're not. And that's that's OK. uh yeah uh ethan rainbow said love the content uncle no show you y'all doing great things i just want to know your mount rushmore teammates you played with much love who's your mount rushmore team around much more teammates but obviously i'm gonna have to start with carson palmer gotta start with carson palmer he's responsible for my success as far as my numbers are concerned from a statistical point. TJ Hushmanzada. TJ Hushmanzada, definitely my second.

We've been together since Oregon State. We were both drafted to the Bengals. We've been friends for a very, very long time. Now, 23 years, to be exact. Third would probably be Willie Anderson. Willie Anderson is, it was, uh, was very vital in my maturity and my maturity throughout my years with the Bengals through my ups and downs. Um, a lot of conversations had with him, uh, to keep me in line, uh, keep me out of trouble. trouble um he was more than just a teammate

and probably number five my teammate mount rushmore ain't no number five my rushmore got four heads but there you gonna make a mount rushmore with five heads what kind of mount rushmore you got my bad well shoot that that's my fault that's a good well you're my rushmore ain't in south dak then. Where your Mount Rushmore at? He got five heads on him. That's a good foe, too. That's a real good foe. This motherfucker got a Medusa. They said Mount Rushmore, not Mount Medusa. My bad, my bad, my bad.

Oh, man. Damn, this tough for me. Because, remember, I played with two teams. You got to start with John. They got to be your first. Okay, I got John, but I got four Hall of Fame teammates in Denver. John, TD, Atwater, Zim. I got three

Hall of Fame teammates in Baltimore. Jonathan Ogden, Ray Lewis, Rod Woodson. But who are you closer with? Ray Woody yeah so obviously I'm closer

with them um I mean I can't tell you I'd do you my Rushmore but obviously I would have had the quarterback first and then whoever I'm closest

with after that well I mean well obviously John gotta go up there honestly, John got to go up there. He got to be, he got to go up there. Ray got to be up there. I mean, I got three, I got, I got four teammates on all the hundredth anniversary team. I mean, how many guys,

how many guys can say they got four guys they play with on the hundredth anniversary team for, yeah. You're right. I got a left tackle that was all decade in two different decades, the 80s and the 90s with them. Ray, all decades in the 2000s. Jonathan Ogden, all decade in the 2000s. Rod, all decades in the 80s and the 90s. That's crazy.

Two defensive player of the year MVP, two MVP My God It's crazy, I know, I already know You were very fortunate Man, I would say John Ray Johnson John Ray Woody

probably at water. I'm close to him because he came in a year he came in a year before i did thieves i think did i play against that water nah hell nah i would have ran steve ass over what okay i feel with a little bit i did it right hey rail hey baby I would love to see that Hey, Rel Hey, baby Rel in here, what Rel talking about? Send us some money, baby Rel, send us $100 Show him you, show him you

Come on, Big Bang VW said Hi, guys, love this show Question, do you like your partner To really know about sports Or do you prefer she's the stereotype Of knowing nothing about sports i mean that's a good question that's a good question i mean the likelihood of i'm fine i'm gonna find somebody that's knowledgeable to me but they know a little something they know like okay he scored a

touchdown or you know he made they like he made that basket you know i'm saying he made a shot he made that basket uh why they how they how they get all them points i ain't never seen no i ain't never seen no game like this so it it doesn't matter because for the most part um they're gonna be upstairs i'm gonna be downstairs because they like sound. They like volume. They like to hear the guys, the color guys

and the play-by-play. They like to hear the game. I don't. They need to hear because they don't know what I know. I don't listen to the sound because I don't want them

to contaminate what I'm going to say. So, and plus, Ocho, you got to realize when we watch tape, there is no sound. When we watch film, there is no sound. So I got used to watching with no sound. So now, I mean, to hear people talk, it drives me crazy to talk about the game. I don't want to hear what you got. The only sporting event that I'll listen to is track and field right that's the only sporting event i'll listen to

that's good i mean when i think for me i obviously every everyone have obviously they they've known something obviously real real knows a thing or two about the game of football uh but it's pretty cool it really didn't matter to me whether you liked it or not i mean it just it was never a thing but that's a that's a good question too it's a good question some some people yeah some people care about that stuff you know that yeah yeah of course of course yeah yeah, I like, I used to watch Bull riding. Oh,

I watched PBR too. I watched PBR. You saw when I rode a bull? Yeah. In 2010? Yeah, I saw you get bucked off in like one second.

I mean, some of them get bucked, some of the pros get bucked off in one second too. And that wasn't, and that wasn't any of the top bulls. That wasn't Bodacious.

That wasn't Bushwhacker. That wasn't Little Yellow Jacket. That wasn't Bodacious. That wasn't Bushwhacker. That wasn't Little Yellow Jacket. That wasn't Atahana. I told him to let me ride Bushwhacker, and I would have dominated at my... Bad Bushwhacker to broke your neck. You crazy. And the only reason I fell off that bull when I came out to shoot is because I wasn't used to that kind of power being up underneath me.

Because there's no way to train for that. I'm on the mechanical bull i'm dominating the mechanical bull on high hey let me tell you something i ain't never seen no bull you know we ain't got no motherfucking pbr bulls out here in miami so i'm thinking i'm practicing with ty murray a legend a legend yeah i know yeah so i'm on the mechanical bull going crazy and i'm like oh this is gonna be easy i get on the real the real bull in the shoot for the first time they so power you can feel that he's so fucking fat i couldn't close my damn legs i'm like ty how's pull the ride this ain't what we practice my legs are wide open and i can't close them how am i supposed to get

the grip to be able to he's like you got to do your best use your spurs use your spurs on the back man fuck these spurs i can't close my legs man um they open they todd murray is one of the all-time great tough heaterman you know tough heaterman the one that when he he was on bodacious bodacious had what they call a dive bomb where he would die down and then when he felt when he filled the uh the rider's moment of ship he threw his head back and hit him right in the face yeah yeah bodacious and uh that was sammy andrews bull yeah man and uh he had to retire because he's like he's gonna hurt to hurt somebody. But Bushwacker came along. I think I would probably give the nod to Bushwacker. Although ET and Little Yellow Jacket.

Some real deal. Tejano, yeah. They have some bad boys back there. I'm mad Bushwacker retired, man. I would love just to tell my kids, man, your daddy wrote a PBR book. Yo, your daddy was going to say, you know, tell your daddy

you sawed on Bushwhacker's back. That's what you're going to tell your kids. You sawed on Bushwhacker's back. Bushwhacker, they ain't nothing to play with because most of those are crossed between, you know, they're a Taurus,

they're a Brahmin, you know. So you want the biggest and the baddest. Most definitely. Most definitely. I mean, what other, this is how I know we are the greatest show of all time. What other show would you be sitting up here talking about

PBR Bulls and their riders? Yeah. I know sumo wrestlers like Takana Hana, Wakana Hana, Aki Bono. You know a little something about everything. Okay.

That's what I do. I don't know everything, but I know a little something about everything. I know some sumo wrestlers too. Oh, you're talking about you know tennis. You like tennis. Oh, you're talking about you know tennis. You like tennis. Oh, you're talking about you know tennis. Oh, now we're talking. Now we're talking. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a very good friend of mine, Chris Eubanks. Matter of fact, he's in town right now. He's practicing. Yeah. Obviously, one of my- He's a big lefty, right? Isn't he a lefty?

He's a righty. He's a righty. He's a righty. One of my favorites, obviously, one of the best right now, very, very young, Carlos Alcaraz. Carlos Alcaraz, very, very, very, very excited. Yeah, very excited. But you know, I grew

up in the 80s and the 90s when the American tennis dominated. You had Pete Sampras, you had Agassi, you had Jim Curry, you had Michael Chang, you had those guys, and then all of a sudden it kind of, you know, obviously in the 80s you had McEnroe, you had Curry, chang you had those guys and then all of a sudden it kind of you know obviously in the 80s you had mackin rowe you had curry uh excuse me jim uh mackin rowe and uh jimmy connors

jimmy uh yeah and then and then man this you had andy rada uh james blake but uh but man it's you know you had he had a couple of John Isner moments, but when the big three burst on the team, Rell donated $300. She said, the best podcast. Appreciate that, Rell. Baby! Boy, you know, you finna get you some.

But you know, these guys now, Ocho, if you look at the tenants now, Ocho, those guys back then, those guys did a lot of serving balling. They hit that smash and then come to the net and finish it off. These guys now, Ocho, if you look at the tennis now, Ocho, those guys back then, those guys did a lot of serving volley. They hit that smash and then come to the net and finish it off. These guys play more baseline to baseline. You had the Sanford serving volley. You had Stefan Edberg serving volley.

You had Michael Steak. You had Goran Ivanovic. You had those guys. I'm talking about the big power. But you know what? Guys these days have gotten so much better if your serve is strong enough and you have somebody that's already all the way at the back of the baseline, all the way

back at the baseline based on your serve, you could actually serve and attack the net like that. But people... But they don't. It's hard. It's hard. Yeah, they don't serve in volley. Even the women used to do more. The women used to do more serve in volley. Martina Navratilova was tremendous serve with tremendous serving volley i mean you look at stephy graph who i don't think gets

the credit that she deserved because i think she had the greatest season nobody's had a season like uh stephy in 88 where she won the golden sombrero she won all four majors and she won the olympic gold medal in 88 uh nobody has ever done that serena came close close. When I think about it, when I think about the players of today's game, as we always talk about the NFL players have gotten bigger, faster, and stronger, and everybody is a little bit more skillful. I think that's why people can't play. But technology

also with that racket. That racket is done major because that ain't the wood now. That's graphite. That's carbon fiber. Those A's and the spin that they can put on the ball. You look at those lefties. You look at Ralph of the Doll and the way he can spin the ball.

He can go add or let. Take it up a man. You know who else? Two of my favorites, Gael Monfils. Yeah, Guy Monfils. And Nick Karyos. Okay, Karyos. Nick Karyos is basically like the Draymond Green of tennis.

Yeah. Yeah. Think about it. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much for watching. Make sure you click that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe.

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